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[Assistant] And then rank their preferences for different input and output techniques, uhm, or related to their configuration.


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[Assistant] So the result of those focus groups, interviews, and sections was this kind of rank ordered list of input and output types and the ways that they might be attached or configured on the chair. And so from the input side,


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[Assistant] Um, move to the number three position and then gesture based interfaces, which, um, we are definition for gesture based interfaces with more in-air free gesture. So actually being able to gesture in free space, open space, rather than on a touch screen or surface.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then on the output side, head-mounted displays, which were the most novel thing at the time, uhm, the Google Glass had just been announced and released. It was one of, chosen for both the novelty and the potential of having a very private, uhm, display that only you could see but interact with in a different way.


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[Assistant] But at the same time, a lot of privacy implications that people just weren't interested in dealing with. They didn't want to have their text messages displayed on a wall next to them or onto another surface that anyone else could walk by and use.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and so there was the overall high level takeaway. One of the takeaways from that study were these, this set of five principles, which I use to guide designing technologies and solutions for wheelchair users that leverage, uh, the wheelchair. And so the first one is building on this idea of always available. So availability.


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[Assistant] They should maintain the silhouette of the user and their wheelchair. The devices should be tailored to individual abilities.


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[Assistant] We should be considering strongly the familiarity to known devices and systems, which is another kind of usability principle. We think about learnability, whereas we carry over the positive effects of prior use of devices.


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[Assistant] But also we should understand kind of the negative implications that devices have had in the past. So for a lot of the technologies that people have used, they had negative experiences with touch screens or negative experiences with gesture-based interfaces, which kind of limited their


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[Assistant] In order to, you know, introduce these, we need to understand the relationship that people currently have with those devices.


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[Assistant] To different environments and conditions of use. So uhm, one thing I think we can all agree on is that most of us, you know, at least pre pandemic do not spend all of our lives in the same room. We're sitting in the same chair.


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[Assistant] We'll be traveling and traversing multiple different environments, different weather conditions, different homes, things like that. And so the biggest enemy to any electronic device right now, I think we can also agree is water. And so if it rains and you're out in your fancy electronic wheelchair with all of your devices, they need to be able to handle that.


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[Assistant] But what did we do with that? So we, we took those principles and we wanted to instantiate them in some way and really to build, you know, what is the first charitable look like? So we took those kind of high priority ranked preferences for inputs and outputs and came up with the JestRest, which is a charitable for integrated control.


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[Assistant] And then some of you may recognize this chair or a chair that is similar to this. This is the captain chair from the Starship Enterprise. I believe this one is from Voyager. Uhm, I could be wrong. Someone who's a bigger Star Trek fan can please correct me. Uhm, but the point is, if you've ever watched the show, uhm,


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[Assistant] Being attached and being centered on this one seat, uhm, is kind of what drove, uh, kind of the idea of what chairables could be.


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[Assistant] It also happens to have integrated controls in the exact locations where wheelchair users also specified as wanting to have those and is reconfigurable to meet the needs of the particular captain who is running the ship, which controls you want at your fingertips versus farther away from you.


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[Assistant] So I'll go back to this image of, you know, what, to give you kind of an idea of what we're designing for, what are we trying to accommodate with this as far as disabilities and accessibility needs go. We wanted to make sure that the people, people are using this device.


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[Assistant] And so for that person, they're doing it with that one finger and sliding forward with their hands staying open the whole time. On the top right, you have kind of a loosely clenched fist where they're doing it more with their knuckles.


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[Assistant] So the idea was to label users to perform familiar gestures, but actually using the surfaces of their wheelchair, which they're already accustomed to rather than having to have a set of switch controls, which you would need to mount multiple.


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[Assistant] So what this allowed us to do was to support multiple interactions in a single area, making it possible to replace two or more switches that would take up the same amount of space with a single input surface.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in addition to common touchscreen gestures that you might think of when we think of touch gestures like tap swipes and drags, slides and things like that, or pinch or multi-touch, I think single-touch gestures


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[Assistant] We came up with these five special gestures. The first one being the squeeze gesture, where it's something a common action you probably do with your arm rest of your chair. If you have one, you might squeeze the end of the arm rest. So we can use that as a deliberate input to the system to control some functionality.


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[Assistant] The second one, which is also one of my favorites, is the lift gesture, which if you've ever, you know, paid attention to the word, if an arm rests, not an arm raised, you actually rest your arms on the surface for the majority of the time and deliberately lift your arms off as an, as an action. So we can detect that and use that as an input to the system as well. Does this, what does this mean when you lift?


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[Assistant] The roll gesture and the rock gesture, the roll being, uhm, rolling your hand from one side of the armrest to the other and the rock being able to do that alternating from inside and out.


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[Assistant] Uh, so we followed a similar approach to the previous study where we both involved both individual wheelchair users and clinicians to gain both an individualized perspective.


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[Assistant] Uhm, when we evaluated these, we conducted two evaluations, one where we specifically, uh, explored, uh, the FSR version of the JestRest where it's a just a pressure sensitive armrest based interface. But we also wanted to understand whether just by having the,


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[Assistant] Uhm, the reasons why they were suggest- why it was suggested that this was their preferred device for both wheelchair users and clinicians, uhm, because of- because of the flexibility that that input offered them in terms of being able to interact with multiple parts of the hand or using a tool while maintaining that similarity to the touchscreen in terms of familiar gestures that they might perform.


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[Assistant] Some support on top of their existing armrest using foam or clay or some other tool. And so if we are doing that and you have this interactive armrest surface,


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[Assistant] Smart, I have smart in quotes, so you can think of smart being autonomous or smart being well connected. And so some of the things we want to do is also examine more emerging interaction techniques and how those can translate or be applied to


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[Assistant] Uh, the wheelchair, how those can be applied to chairs in general, uh, beyond wheelchairs, but being able to ex- to facilitate more expressive interaction for people using wheelchairs, so being able to take advantage of the latest and force-based touch interfaces, proximity-based interactions, what kinds of things can we support this way through an integrated means?


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[Assistant] I have a special interest in dual purpose sensing, so being able to use


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[Assistant] For more interactive technologies and specifically how people with motor impairments might be interacting with devices to thinking about what kinds of chairables or wearables would be good for athletes. And so this is work. I'll talk about wearables and then talk about a system called spoke sense.


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[Assistant] So the question kind of driving this work is more, how can we design more inclusive activity monitors for people with differing abilities? So there's still a theme here, but we're thinking specifically about activity monitors given the prevalence and popularity of fitness and activity trackers at the time.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but we were seeing, especially back when the study was conducted, this really low adoption of these technologies among people with disabilities. And so there's, there were two schools of thought on this, whether it was because of the affordability of the devices, how new they were, or whether there were accessibility barriers that specifically created challenges for people, uhm, who might benefit the most from these kinds of technologies.


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[Assistant] So our approach to this was we started with looking at, you know, what wearables were out, what wearables were available on the consumer side to understand, you know, what were features of these devices, what functionalities did they provide to different users, what was their intention, components, etc.


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[Assistant] We had conversations with experts about the design of wearable technologies in general and about specific devices they worked on. We conducted semi-structured interviews with athletes and coaches. I'll get into the observations and talk about the National Witcher Basketball Tournament, how that fits into this line of work.


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[Assistant] And then, uh, development and testing of actual devices, which I mean, by which I mean spokesense. So.


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[Assistant] Uh, whether these changes, uh, occur early in life or later in life, our bodies are really, um, able to adapt to, uh, changes caused by traumatic injuries or disabilities. But they've really, these things can really change our body shapes and our physiology. Um, so what, uh, what and how we're able to adapt is really profound.


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[Assistant] Below that injury level they may not have a reduced ability or even inability to sweat, which makes temperature regulation very difficult.


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[Assistant] In terms of sweat sensing, if you're wearing a wrist worn sweat sensing device there, if you're diminished ability to sweat, we can't get a very good signal from your sweat and thus making that technique ineffective, at least in the body location presented.


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[Assistant] Despite these very kind of crude examples, the biggest barrier that we saw for wearable technology adoption was actually just misperception of the devices and misperception of what they could do. So the first this quote from this wheelchair rugby player.


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[Assistant] Um, I really love to use, um, these devices, they track steps and I do not take steps. So I'm supposed to take 10,000 steps a day. I don't take any steps in a day. I use my chair. I move around.


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[Assistant] This picture is not of the actual person. This is a picture of Tatiana McFadden, who is a Paralympic wheelchair racer. Uhm, but you get the point. The people are moving around. They're never, you know, sitting, they're never sedentary really. They're not really actually sitting still.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so what's revealed about this is not only that the words and perceptions of the devices are different, but in some cases the actual activities that we're interested in monitoring.


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[Assistant] Similarly with all professional sports that you'll see, uhm, if you dig far enough.


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[Assistant] So I started to, I decided to start with wheelchair basketball as an example wheelchair sport because of my personal connections with basketball, but also the opportunity to get engaged with the professional organization, the National Wheelchair Basketball Association.


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[Assistant] Facts about wheelchair basketball is that it uses a functional classification system which assigns each player a functional, a number or score for their functional ability to perform motions required for basketball. So someone with a very high level injury or high level severity of impairment


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[Assistant] And so the way that this plays into competition is that you can't have more than 15 points on the court at any given time. So you have to have a mixture of people with different functional abilities playing on the same team in different positions. So it gives you a sense of kind of equitable competition.


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[Assistant] To ask them about their preferences and ideas, desires for devices that they might use or desires for metrics and information that a wearable device may provide.


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[Assistant] We set out to, uh, fast forward a bit and look at actually wheelchair truck, wheelchair trackers and monitors.


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[Assistant] It's great that on Saturday, March 15th, you had this really great workout. It's probably irrelevant to you now, but now that you can see the data we can probably do something with it for next year.


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[Assistant] And so this is Spokesense, which is a prototype wheelchair basketball prototype device for wheelchair basketball to give immediate feedback on motion metrics like the ones I described.


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[Assistant] IMU with a microcontroller, a 9 degree freedom IMU to do, um, orientation and motion metrics from the both wheels of the chair. So one on each wheel. And we were giving the athletes feedback on things like speed, distance, peak speed, acceleration, deceleration, braking, the turn direction and orientation of their chair.


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[Assistant] We also included a microphone on the device in order to provide some indication of environmental factors, environmental features, and I'll go into a little bit about what we did with that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but first I want to call your attention to kind of the orientation change events. So some of the things are obvious that you might think of for orientation, understanding orientation of the chair. Like if someone has tipped over and may have fallen out of the chair, it's important to know that or maybe an important event of interest.


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[Assistant] So not only were you detecting the kind of obvious events where you tipped all the way over, but we can also detect when you have tilted up one to one wheel and actually be able to measure and give feedback to that. So I'm going to let Patrick Anderson demonstrate this for you.


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[Assistant] This amusing, I, I will let you know, my, my best average for being able to do this was about a minute, uhm, and not continuously, so a minute over the course of a day where I maybe got up on the wheel a couple of times.


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[Assistant] Uhm, versus, but being able to track this as an elite skill, this can gain you that kind of competitive advantage. And we want to be able to give feedback on those kind of specific motions and specific activities that they might be doing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, as I mentioned, we also included a microphone on the device because you can imagine if we're recording data about all these motions and all these metrics over the period of a game, which lasts about an hour.


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[Assistant] So we actually used game sounds in a project called UB Acoustics, which uses a small sample of recorded game sounds combined with audio collected through existing sound libraries to train a model that we use to detect the buzzer, dribbling the basketball, and the referee's whistle.


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[Assistant] Uhm, which we conducted at the 2018, 2017, 2018 tournament.


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[Assistant] You can imagine that people, uh, players and coaches do not actually come to tournaments to be parts of research studies, so we had to keep every, all of our interactions very brief. But despite that, we were able to gain a lot of really interesting data and learn a lot about, uh, kind of


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[Assistant] So you're able to set your goals based on this kind of known performance data.


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[Assistant] But the one that I want to call your attention to, which is something that we often overlook and it's casual comparisons between your peers or between yourself and elite athletes. So I asked you to compare yourself or ask myself to compare with what LeBron James is able to do on a basketball court. How high does he jump? I can get that information really easily and say that he jumps higher than me, but not for long.


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[Assistant] For these casual comparisons with these elite athletes, this data is just not really available to them, whether it's because no one's collected or just because it's harder to collect in the moment.


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[Assistant] In addition to that, being able to evaluate your intuition. So when you're an athlete and you're competing with teams, you kind of have a sense of, you know, what, uh, what another player is able to do or what their team is able to do.


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[Assistant] What can you actually compare yourself to other people in your position or other players with your same functional classification? So you have this idea. So as from this, what the quote suggests as for teams competing with each other.


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[Assistant] You already kind of know what to expect from intuition, but you can add some objectivity to confirm or to refute those intuitions and see where you actually are versus a team or someone you have less experience playing with.


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[Assistant] And finally, one of my favorite experiences from the tournament was actually this idea of facilitating competition. And so this apparently humble stretch of concrete, once you add some cones and lines, people immediately start to just fly through this as kind of a speedway.


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[Assistant] Once we added the actual metrics on a large display and people could see when you have the sensors on how fast you're going, it became something to be the best in the building. And so this gentleman here came back to our booth, I think about six or seven times in different chairs at different times of day, just to make sure that he was the best and the fastest person in the building compared to anyone else who tried.


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[Assistant] In a wheelchair. So pretty extraordinary stuff and pretty fun to actually be able to be in that space.


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[Assistant] We see a lot of potential for this in terms of ongoing development that we're working on. So being able to facilitate team management, working in other sports, um, analysis for everyday activities and actually using again the dual purpose sensing where spoke sense right now is more for understanding how you're moving. But can we then translate that to as input to a system or an interactive experience?


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[Assistant] For the last few minutes, I just kind of want to tease a couple of the other projects and new directions that I'm going in, uhm, mostly in the interest of time.


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[Assistant] The first one is kind of on a thread of work. So the next actually going to mention about three projects relating to social media access. So along with former PhD student Cole Gleason, we started to do this kind of social media accessibility exploration where we looked at Twitter and thinking about how social media content has really grown and become increasingly visual.


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[Assistant] So the image descriptions are the descriptions or alternative text descriptions you can provide to let someone with a vision impairment know or a captioning program, a description of the image if they're unable to see it.


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[Assistant] And so the feature existed, but very few images actually had these descriptions. And so we were interested in exploring ways to automatically add alternative text to these images, either post-hoc through another tool or ways that we can support content writers when they're actually producing these descriptions in the tool. Twitter since made


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[Assistant] Another really fun project that we've been able to do is kind of looking at different types of content. So within that space of images on social media,


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[Assistant] We extended that work that finding these different types of images, one really prevalent type that's become really important to our society and how we communicate online is memes. We may not use these image, these macro memes as much as we used to in the past, but most of these images are not fully described.


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[Assistant] Uh, convey through audio, the humor and the overall message of these. So for the, for image C of the philosopher after meme, um, we had some very celestial background music, um, and then it would read off the text in the same kind of screen reader voice. If the opposite of pro is con is the opposite of progress. Congress.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and so that, you know, having that celestial background music to give you the feel.


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[Assistant] Uhm, another quick teaser, just because I think we are just about out of time and I want to have time for some questions. Uhm, this project is actually looking more on the navigation side, orientation and mobility, getting into how people move through space.


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[Assistant] And if you don't know what those meanings are, you're like most people and most of the people that we talk to, uhm, through our, uh, survey of people with vision impairments and non-visual navigators, most people don't know these meanings to the point where even the orientation and mobility instructors, uhm, advise people to not trust what you think that, that indicator means and use other factors.


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[Assistant] So at the moment we're not measuring whether you're 15 inches off the ground or 16, we're measuring whether you are tilted and balanced versus whether you've completely tipped over and now the orientation of the wheelchair is completely changed. And so we then reset that periodically so that we know


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[Assistant] Uh, certain types of disabilities or certain types of motor impairments or limitations, because one of the thing, the common factors there is the actual platform, the chair that they're using is very, it's going to be very similar and have similar features. So the way that I typically approach this is to find something that does provide that common ground.


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[Assistant] Kind of counter intuitively, try not to think of a specific person when you're designing the solution and think of as many people as possible. What would be, what could be useful for them? And so you often end up with something like, well, if I can't choose for this person specifically in that person there, I'll either make the button bigger or put the button in the right place. And so that was kind of the approach there.


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[Assistant] Then it's really not going to a person's not going to continue to use it if there's any issues or the in terms of what the second most, uh,


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[Assistant] When we think of like devices you might carry, your laptop and your backpack, does that make it always available? As long as your backpack is available and as long as you can reach it, but actually bringing those controls into a space where that person can literally always reach it, right?


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[Assistant] I think, I think brain computer interfaces are one component of, of a, of potential solutions in this space. So I, I try to shy away from kind of the one solution will solve all the problems.


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[Assistant] They're also quite invasive and so if you're, some of them are very quite invasive, the really effective ones often involve actually implanting something on the surface of the brain and then that enables you very precise control or precise access to those signals. The further away from the actual surface of the brain you get, those systems sometimes degrade.


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[Assistant] So I think there's definitely long-term implications as we get better. I think it's definitely a viable solution and we should always get better at understanding the intent of actions as well.


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[Assistant] It's really hard to understand whether something is going to be useful from a couple of practices and especially not from a tournament, one tournament. So we need to actually, we do need to actually work with folks over time. We have a few teams that are interested in working with us and so.


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[Assistant] We also are building up the relationships on kind of the more medical side, so thinking about the interactive technologies and health sensing.


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[Assistant] But uhm, we should be able to get beyond the tournament style data collection. I think those kinds of opportunities are much better for a large number of people at one time versus having to work individually with folks over a shorter period.


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[Assistant] Hey everyone, I'm here today with Peter to do a mock product management interview. I'm super excited to have Peter on the show, but before we jump into the question, Peter, could you go ahead and introduce yourself for folks watching?


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[Assistant] Uhm, well, Peter, it's great to have you on the show. Uhm, for those of you watching,


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[Assistant] Exponent helps you land your dream tech job. We help you do that with our online courses, our coaching, our community, and our videos like this. Uhm, I'm super, super excited to have Peter on the show today. If you want to check out more videos like this, go to tryexponent.com, uhm, or subscribe to our YouTube channel and send us a like.


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[Assistant] Awesome. Uhm, so today's question, what I'd like to ask you is how would you design a communication app for kids?


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[Assistant] No, for the purpose, for the purpose of this interview, you can kind of assume the knowledge that you have.


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[Assistant] I'm curious, so we're sort of positioning ourselves more towards a gaming platform. Uhm, the original prompt is around communication, so I'm curious, how do you plan on bringing the communication in with the gaming experience?


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then also, I mean, would be curious to hear a little bit about how you think about the control aspects, uhm, for, like, what does the parent see exactly? Uhm, so, you know, you can go in either direction. Also, feel free to, I don't want to derail your, your current line of thinking, but, uhm, would love to hear on both points at some point.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that helps clarify. I'm mostly curious to hear a little bit more about like, how do you imagine the kid to interact with this device? Like, is it something that a parent gives them, uhm, you know, for a certain amount of time? Like, what do you imagine to be like the user's story or the user's journey there for this experience?


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[Assistant] Yeah, totally. Uhm, well, as we get towards the end of this interview, Peter, I'd love to hear, is there anything else that you want to share about this particular product design before we jump to feedback and kind of talk about the interview?


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[Assistant] Totally. Uhm, well, Peter, this is awesome. You did an awesome job with the interview. Uhm, you're done now, so take a deep breath. Uhm, I wanna share some of the thoughts that I had about what I thought you made you a really effective interviewee. But before I do that, any other comments about the interview or meta comments, you know, about like, how you feel like it went?


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[Assistant] Totally, totally. Uhm, yeaah, I totally agree with you and I thought that really shone through in the answer. Uhm, let me just jump into what I thought made this a really effective interview.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I thought you did a great job, kind of doing the customer segmentation. One key element especially we're looking for as interviewers is understanding that the customer or the user, uh, may be different. So the customer in this case would be the parents or, uhm, and the user may be the kids.


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[Assistant] I think, uhm, you also did a great job summarizing, checking in with me, sometimes throughout the interview. There was a couple times where it went on a little long and I wanted to check in, but overall pretty good. Uhm, and I really loved, uhm, you, you kind of had this, uh, one line in there. You were like, oh, I'm gonna summarize this in one line. Kids to have fun and parents to have control.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I think like that was really, really helpful and really crystallized what we were doing with this whole exercise. Uhm, and so that's a really important tactic for those watching. Uhm, definitely like at some point in your interview when you feel like you've gotten towards a solution or a vision of what you want, summarize that into one crystal clear line. It can be really, really helpful.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I thought you did a great job implementing fun, delightful features. Another thing that I would be looking for is an interviewer asking this question.


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[Assistant] Is does the interviewee know to add delight and know how to add that kind of stuff into products? And you know, you look at products all like from Google and their Google doodles to, you know, Slack and their emojis, like delight is actually a key principle when developing products.


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[Assistant] And so that's something that I'd be looking for especially when targeting, uh, younger demographics.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then I thought you also brought in a nice human element of like, hey, I'm a father also and, you know, this is my experience and things like that. And uhm, you know, to an extent those are really helpful and valuable in interviews to share that kind of stuff.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I overall thought this was a really awesome answer. If I had to give some constructive feedback, I think it might be a little bit more around the pausing. Uhm, you know, we did kind of peter out towards the end in terms of like,


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[Assistant] It wasn't exactly clear if you were done with the product. And so, you know, you can indicate that to the interviewer and just say, hey, like, this is kind of where I'm at. Uhm, how does this sound? Do you want me to go deeper or do you want me to stay where I am? Uhm, and that kind of helps, uh, define the scope of the problem.


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[Assistant] These product design problems are hard because you never know how long to go and they're always variable and interviewers can take you in different directions. So that's part of the difficulty with it.


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[Assistant] But let me pause there. Peter, any thoughts, reactions to that, and anything else that you wanted to share with viewers before we close today?


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[Assistant] Totally. Uhm, but overall, Peter, really awesome answer. Uhm, again, Peter, you have a book. Could you share a little bit more details about your book for those watching?


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[Assistant] Awesome, uhm, well Peter, uh, thank you so much for being on the show. For those watching, uhm, the book link will be in the description below as well as some other resources and links.


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[Assistant] Uhm, again, this is an Exponent mock interview. We have more of these on our YouTube channel. Do please subscribe and like this video if this was helpful to you. It means a lot to us. Uhm, and, uh, you can check out more resources to help break into product management roles as well as other tech roles at tryexponent.com.


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[Assistant] Uhm, thanks again Peter for such an awesome mock interview. Uhm, and to those of you watching, good luck on your upcoming interview.


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[Assistant] Pip the Dog goes on a brief excursion to the Republic of Ireland and returns to the United Kingdom just as easily.


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[Assistant] Once more he looked to the Volturi witnesses, his eyes probing each face. The power of his words was evident in their expressions. You might consider joining us.


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[Assistant] If you think the Volturi will let you live to tell this tale, you are mistaken. We may all be destroyed, he shrugged. But then again, maybe not. Perhaps we are on more equal footing than they know. Perhaps the Volturi have finally met their match.


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[Assistant] He ended his heated speech by stepping back to Kate's side and then sliding forward in a half crouch, prepared for the onslaught. Aro smiled. A very pretty speech, my revolutionary friend. Garrett remained poised for attack. Revolutionary, he growled. Who am I revolting against, might I ask? Are you my king? Do you wish me to call you master too, like your sycophantic guard?


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[Assistant] Peace, Garrett, Aro said tolerantly. I meant only to refer to your time of birth. Still a patriot, I see. Garrett glared back furiously. Let us ask our witnesses, Aro suggested. Let us hear their thoughts before we make our decision. Tell us, friends. And he turned his back casually on us.


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[Assistant] Moving a few yards toward his mass of nervous observers hovering even closer now to the edge of the forest. What do you think of all this? I can assure you the child is not what we feared. Do we take the risk and let the child live? Do we put our world in jeopardy to preserve their family intact? Or does Ernest Garrett have the right of it?


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[Assistant] Will you join them in a fight against our sudden quest for dominion? The witnesses met his gaze with careful faces. One, a small black haired woman, looked briefly at the dark blonde male at her side. Are those our only choices? She asked suddenly, gaze flashing back to Aro. Agree with you or fight against you? Of course not, most charming McKenna, Aro said.


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[Assistant] No doubt the patriot truly believes what he says. Aro chuckled lightly and Charles's eyes narrowed. That is our witness, McKenna said. We're leaving now. She and Charles backed away slowly, not turning before they were lost from view in the trees. One other stranger began to retreat the same way, then three more darted after him. I evaluated the 37 vampires that stayed.


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[Assistant] But the majority of them seemed only too aware of the direction this confrontation had taken. I guess that they were giving up a head start in favor of knowing exactly who would be chasing after them. I was sure Aro saw the same thing I did. He turned away, walking back to his guard with a measured pace. He stopped in front of them and addressed them in a clear voice. We are outnumbered, dearest ones, he said. We can expect no outside help.


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[Assistant] Should we leave this question undecided to save ourselves? No master, they whispered in unison.


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[Assistant] Is the protection of our world worth perhaps the loss of some of our number? Yes, they breathed. We are not afraid.


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[Assistant] I was wondering if after all these years you'd like to meet, to go over everything. They say that time's supposed to heal y'all, but I ain't done much healing. Hello? Can you hear me?


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[Assistant] When we were younger and free, I've forgotten how it felt before the world fell at our feet. There's such a difference between us and Amelia Miles. Hello from the other side. I must have called a thousand times to you. I'm sorry for everything that I've done.


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[Assistant] It's no secret that the both of us are running out of time. Hello from the other side. I must have called a thousand times to tell you, I'm sorry for everything that I've done. But when I call you, you never seem to be home. Hello from the outside. At least I can say that I've tried to tell you, I'm sorry for breaking your heart. But it don't matter clearly.


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[Assistant] No, indeed, but I have long wanted to see you, and when I heard that there had been a letter from you, and that you were going to another part of the country, I thought I'd just set off and get a look at you before you were quite out of my reach. I'm afraid you're disappointed in me, Bessie.


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[Assistant] I said this laughing. I perceived that Bessie's glance, though it expressed regard, did in no shape denote admiration. No, Miss Jane, not exactly. You're gentle enough, you look like a lady, and it's as much as I ever expected of you. You were no beauty as a child.


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[Assistant] I smiled at Bessie's frank answer. I felt that it was correct, but I confess I was not quite indifferent to its import.


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[Assistant] At eighteen most people wish to please, and the conviction that they have not an exterior likely to second that desire brings anything but gratification.


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[Assistant] I dare say you're clever, though," continued Bessie, by way of solace. What can you do? Can you play on the piano? A little. There was one in the room. Bessie went and opened it, and then asked me to sit down and give her a tune. I played a waltz or two, and she was charmed. The Miss Reeds could not play as well, said she exultingly.


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[Assistant] I always said you could surpass them in learning. And can you draw? That's one of my paintings over the chimney piece.


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[Assistant] It was a landscape in watercolours, of which I had made a present to the superintendent, in acknowledgement of her obliging mediation with the committee on my behalf, and which she had framed and glazed. Well, that's beautiful, Miss Jane.


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[Assistant] It's as fine a picture as any miss reads drawing master could paint, let alone the young ladies themselves, who could not come near it. And have you learnt French? Yes, Bessie, I can both read it and speak it. And you can work on muslin and canvas? I can. Oh, you're quite a lady, Miss Jane. I knew you would be. You will get on whether your relations notice you or not. There was something I wanted to ask you.


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[Assistant] Have you ever heard anything from your father's kinsfolk? The heirs? Never in my life.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, Missus always said they were poor and quite despicable. And they may be poor.


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[Assistant] But I believe they are as much gentry as the reeds are, for one day, nearly seven years ago, a Mr. Eyre came to Gateshead and wanted to see you. Missy said you was at school fifty miles off.


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[Assistant] He seemed so much disappointed, for he could not stay. He was going on a voyage to a foreign country, and the ship was to sail from London in a day or two. He looked quite a gentleman, and I believe he was your father's brother. What foreign country was he going to, Bessie?


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[Assistant] Yes, he did not stay many minutes in the house. Mrs. was very high with him. She called him afterwards a sneaking tradesman. My Robert believes he was a wine merchant. Very likely, I returned, or perhaps Clark, or agent to a wine merchant.


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[Assistant] Bessie and I conversed about old times, an hour longer, and then she was obliged to leave me.


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[Assistant] I mounted the vehicle which was to bear me to new duties and a new life in the unknown environs of Milket.


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[Assistant] This video is sponsored by Beastbook Post, a monthly membership club delivering awesome boxes of top shelf goods from under the radar brands. It's free to join and you can skip a month or cancel any time.


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[Assistant] Every month, Bespoke Post introduces its members to cool new products, based on a preference quiz you fill out. Every box has around $70 worth of goods inside, but costs you only a fraction of the value.


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[Assistant] Preview your box before it's shipped out. You'll get a box assigned to you and before it's shipped, you'll get a preview of what comes inside to decide if you'd like to 1. Keep it 2. Swap it for a different box or 3. Skip the month entirely for no charge. You only pay for what you want.


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[Assistant] BeastBookPost sent me over some goodies, let's check this out. This is the Wren Compact Camp Chair. It's so compact, it's hard to believe there's a chair in here. It's small, but also super lightweight. Once you unfold these rods, they all kind of find their place and snap right into it. And it comes with swappable anti-sink feet.


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[Assistant] Once you put the mesh over the rods, it's just ahhhh. A chair this portable has no business being this comfortable. This comes in a few colors and it's just a handy thing to have because you never know


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[Assistant] When you'll need to sit down. Got another box and look at this, it's the Hibernate slippers. Do you even need me to explain that these are super comfortable? Just, look at them. I like this little all purpose room spray they come with too, smells really nice. To get 20% off of your first box, click the link in the description and enter Monster20 at checkout.


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[Assistant] Or go to bespokepost.com slash Monster20. Thank you Bespoke Post for supporting the channel.


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[Assistant] Monster Wars was a three-part story that made up episodes 12, 13, and 14 of Godzilla the series. It featured the return of numerous giant monsters that have appeared in the cartoon show so far.


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[Assistant] As well as the return of the original Godzilla seen in the movie, now as a mind controlled cyborg named CyberGodzilla.


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[Assistant] The story culminated with the Junior Godzilla having to decide if he was loyal to his parent or his surrogate family of humans. It was really well done.


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[Assistant] Monster Wars is also the name of the second Game Boy Color game based on Godzilla the series. And it's the worst goddamn Godzilla console game I've ever played.


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[Assistant] In my last video game review, I looked at Godzilla the series on Game Boy Color, and it was pretty bad. But with the sequel, they took the same game and made some changes that virtually broke it.


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[Assistant] This game once again comes from Crave Entertainment and Crawfish Interactive.


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[Assistant] Look, right away, they're reusing an animation from the first game. They just recolored it! What are you, Disney? The song is the same as well, although slightly different.


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[Assistant] There is some new animation, like this foot that just hovers over the street. I really thought that was gonna come slamming down.


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[Assistant] Guess he's really watching where he walks. There's this little animation of a Godzilla head that- Hey, it's alright! Good job!


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're doing the still heads with the dialogue boxes again, just like the last game. The first thing I noticed playing this game was...


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[Assistant] Godzilla can stop! He's not continuously walking like he was in the first game. And when he does walk, there's no more stomping sound! No more BAM! BOOM! BAM! BOOM!


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[Assistant] Turns out the only thing more annoying than the footsteps is no sound at all. I feel like I'm losing my mind right now.


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[Assistant] There's a little target now to give you a better sense of aim and a general idea where your fireballs will land.


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[Assistant] So now I have three meters. Guard and health again, and fire. Guard puts Godzilla in a defense mode, health is how many hits he can take before he dies, and fire makes him launch a new fire attack.


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[Assistant] But unlike the first game, these meters do not auto-replenish. Now, they only go back up after finding a powerup hidden in some of the targets you hit. And this is where the game falls apart.


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[Assistant] Look how much guard I lose even if I tap the button.


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[Assistant] Fire goes down quick too. I'm terrified to use these functions. If you use your guard just a couple of times, that's it, you've got no more guard.


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[Assistant] And you don't automatically get the power up once it's repealed, you have to shoot it and hit it to get it. And this all makes the game... REALLY FUCKING HARD.


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[Assistant] Even when I take it real slow and use my guard conservatively, I just can't make it to the first boss fight.


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[Assistant] To make it through this game, you've gotta hit practically every tiny thing that comes at you. And more important, you have to hit whatever that tiny thing fires at you. Your aim has to be immaculate. There are target updates and special move level ups, but this game needs you to put in the time.


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[Assistant] Can't be done! The game can be played all the way through! It's a challenge, but it's possible!


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[Assistant] Eating a plate of fucking poop could be done, that doesn't mean I want to do it. I have no intention of spending my life practicing this game, so to show you the later levels, I'm gonna need a cheat code. Which means I need to call on our favorite reoccurring character, Cheeto the Cheating Dragon!


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[Assistant] Who first appeared in the third episode of the series, DOA.


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[Assistant] They just dropped that old Microsoft paint bucket everywhere.


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[Assistant] After playing more Ninja Godzilla and striking in silence, I'm up to the nanotech creature who appeared in the fourth episode of the series, Talking Trash.


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[Assistant] Now I'm back in the ocean. Will I be killing dolphins again like the last game? No, but I keep mistaking the submarine for a whale. Here you face a cryptoclytis, who first appeared in episode 8 Leviathan.


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[Assistant] There's a part where Monique shouts, Sacrebleu. It's supposed to be Sacrebleu, a French cry of surprise. And when you're taking foreign language lessons from MIB, you know it's bad. But like,


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[Assistant] That's how exciting this game is that this typo is exciting for me to talk about. Then Nick says, Mother of God, that's the first Godzilla, and you face Cyber Godzilla. Yeah, the big boss of the game is the star of the Godzilla movie that was just recently getting all that hype. How the mighty have fallen. Also, it's interesting that they refer to this Godzilla as a she.


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[Assistant] The Godzilla's are standing six feet apart for social distancing, so as usual, we only see parts of each of them.


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[Assistant] Cyber Godzilla is an exciting part of the Monster Wars cartoon event. Here, things fall kind of flat. And without the cheat code on, this match would have probably taken me days to beat.


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[Assistant] This whole game is brutal! But you won't believe the ending.


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[Assistant] Godzilla the series was a bad game, but Monster Wars feels like an unlicensed bootleg version of that bad game.


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[Assistant] I'd rather play Godzilla Double Smash. I'd rather play Circus Caper. I'd rather play Godzilla The Series.


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[Assistant] I'd play any of those games before playing Godzilla Monster Wars. I'd rather play a mobile game with Godzilla than, oh, okay, maybe that's too far. Well, we did it. After all these years of this video game review show, we finally found the very bottom of the pile. The lowest of the low.


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[Assistant] And after doing three videos in a row on bad games, isn't it time the next Godzilla game I review is a good one? Do I dare say it? A great one?


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[Assistant] Hello Nancy, darling. Of course I've missed you. Yes, yes, quite all right.


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[Assistant] Just as well get it over while I'm here. How do you think, sir doctor?


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[Assistant] Speaking of clouds, I have a place in the country I'd like you to see.


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[Assistant] Oh, hello darling. I'll be with you in just a minute darling. That's what I meant, Ferguson.


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[Assistant] It's a matter of whether or not you like oxes.


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[Assistant] Hello. I'd like to talk to Dr. Alexander, please.


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[Assistant] The author of the brand new book, Unlikable, The Problem with Hillary.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, Judy. Yeaah. Yeaah, okay, where are you? York Towers? Oh, uh-huh. So long. She's at the York Towers, sweet 32A.


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[Assistant] Promise. Written by Jessica Scherz.


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[Assistant] As you sit in silence, wondering why I'll be on your shoulder to cry on, until your tears run dry, when you've been hurt, and can't believe what they've done, if you need someone to talk to, I'll be the one. If a close friend hurts you, and you don't understand, remember I'm here. I'll lend a helping hand. Burdens are lighter when carried by two, and I just want you to know I'm here for you.


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[Assistant] And the vision that was planted in my brain still remains. Within the sound of silence and restless dreams I walked alone, narrow streets of cobblestone.


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[Assistant] Ten thousand people, maybe more. People talking without speaking. People hearing without listening.


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[Assistant] Hear my words that I might teach you, Take my arms that I might reach you, By my words like silent raindrops fell, And echoed in the wells of silence.


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[Assistant] It started happening on New Year's Eve up in New York at my sister's house. I started seeing these lights.


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[Assistant] And then when I got down, I grabbed my tools and I was hustling over to the shuttle to get to Daytona to teach. And it was like there's a tumbleweed blowing across the bottom of my eye.


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[Assistant] I went to the ER about midnight. He looked at it and he said, you got retinal detachment. You need to get this taken care of.


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[Assistant] Several months later in August, my left eye started shimmering. And I went out to the studio, and something was different. I'd lost some vision.


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[Assistant] In the two and a half hours, my vision had gone from a full 360 degrees, a circle, down to a fingernail at the very bottom.


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[Assistant] If the retina detaches around the periphery, you'll be okay, but if it detaches through the center, which is called the macula, you're in trouble.


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[Assistant] I got back in the studio the day I could. I sat down, I had to make something.


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[Assistant] I couldn't hit the nail. I mean, I was floundering around like a chimp. I thought, I can't do this anymore. And my heart, I could hear my heart break.


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[Assistant] I used to be able to look down the barrel of the torch, down the flame and know where I was. Now I have to like, tilt my head and kind of get another view of where it is. And there's other clues, another cues that you use to see. I learned how to hit the nail.


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[Assistant] And I sat down and I did it and I sat down on my chair and I cried. Because I realized that I could still do it in some way.


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[Assistant] What I'm making in the studio, but I think it's changed my commitment to making.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I call myself an artist. There's a certain amount of pretense associated with that word and calling myself a craftsman doesn't really dial it in the way I'd like it to.


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[Assistant] Making. Making is the most honest thing I can say about what it is I do. I have touched every surface in this room. I've made something for every surface in this room. And so making is remodeling the house.


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[Assistant] Making is cooking, I suppose. It's manifesting something from something that wasn't. That's making to me.


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[Assistant] You know, we started out, all of us just in shock, I think, and I'd wish that I had been here because


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[Assistant] We're all such a close-knit group. It's like a family and to be able to be with your family at a time when you're feeling like there's some kind of a loss.


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[Assistant] I want myrocky.com as a way for readers to send in their comments to us and uhm,


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[Assistant] And let everybody know, you know, how they feel about the Rocky Mountain News. Our response has been unbelievable. Thousands of page views. You know, it's an opportunity for us not just to hear back from the community, but for us to introduce to the community some of the people that work behind the scenes who don't have bylines or, you know, pictures in the paper all the time.


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[Assistant] The island of Blefuscu was only 800 yards north of Lilliput, but I had not yet had a chance to see this country.


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[Assistant] While preparing for war with the people of Blefuscu, I stayed away from the north side of Lilliput, so that none of the Blefuscudians' ships would see me. The king told me that the Blefuscudians had fifty warships that could hold about thirty thousand people.


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[Assistant] After learning these things about the people of Blefuscu, I made a plan of attack and asked the king's best officers to help me. I had been told that the water was eight feet in the deepest part and four feet in the shallowest part.


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[Assistant] On the day of the attack, I was the first to see the Blefuskudians ships coming to Lilliput. I walked out into the water to meet the ships. I did this easily because the water was not very deep at that point.


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[Assistant] Many men jumped out of their boats, screaming loudly, and swam towards the beach of Liliput. I took my ropes and attached one to each warship.


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[Assistant] The men who had stayed on the ships shot arrows and fired their cannons, but I had worn my thickest clothes so that none of their weapons would hurt me.


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[Assistant] I turned towards Liliput and began to pull the ships onto their land.


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[Assistant] This was easy for me to do because the Lilliputians' ropes and hooks were strong. However, when the water became deep, the Lilliputians who were watching me pull the ships could not see me any longer. Many people on the beach said,


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[Assistant] Oh no! Man Mountain has drowned! And look! Now our enemy ships are coming to attack us!


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[Assistant] I was too busy pulling the ships to tell them that everything was alright.


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[Assistant] However, in a few moments the water became less deep and my head rose out of the water again. When the people saw me pulling the Blefuscudian ships with the ropes, everyone shouted and cheered joyfully,


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[Assistant] I held up the ropes high in the air and said loudly, The enemy has been captured! Long live the King of Lilliput!


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[Assistant] The King of Lilliput ran forward and said to the people on the beach, Great Man Mountain, for capturing some of our enemies, the Blefuscudians, I now give you a special name, the name of Nardak. This is the highest honor in our kingdom.


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[Assistant] I felt very proud and grateful, and everyone cheered.


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[Assistant] Good man, Mountain. Now that you have helped my country win our battle with Blefuscu, there are some other things I would like you to do. He said quickly. You have captured many of the enemy's ships today, but there are still more.


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[Assistant] I want you to find all the Blefuscudians ships and bring them to me.


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[Assistant] This way, the Blefuscudians cannot attack us anymore, and I will be able to rule Blefuscu, he cried.


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[Assistant] We can go to that terrible island and destroy all the people who break their eggs at the large end. I will send one of my best officers to govern Blefuscu.


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[Assistant] All the Blefuscudians will obey me, and I will be the most powerful king in the world.


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[Assistant] All the Liliputians were more excited than ever, and everyone shouted and clapped.


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[Assistant] However, I did not know what to think. The king's ideas bothered me very much.


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[Assistant] It did not seem fair to kill or hurt the Blefuscudian people just because they believed differently than the Lilliputian king. I knew I could never kill anyone, and I told the king so.


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[Assistant] When the King realized that the Man Mountain would not help him rule Blefuscu, he was extremely angry. You are a traitor, Man Mountain!


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[Assistant] You are not grateful for everything I have done for you, he shouted.


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[Assistant] Then he turned and walked away with all his officers around him.


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[Assistant] I could not believe that the king was so angry with me. Hadn't I helped his people?


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[Assistant] From that time on, there were certain officers, especially Skyresh Bogolin, who spoke badly about me to the king whenever they could. Because the king was angry with me, he believed everything these people said. I've done so much for Lilliput.


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[Assistant] Yet the king treats me terribly, I thought angrily. However,


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[Assistant] I did not say anything, because I hoped that soon the king would change his mind.


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[Assistant] About three weeks after I had captured the ships, some officers from Blefuscu came to Lilliput to see the king.


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[Assistant] The Blephosgudians wanted peace with Lilliput because they knew that the Lilliputian king was much stronger than they were. I am sure that greedy king was very happy about that.


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[Assistant] Although the king was angry with me, I was still allowed to come to the castle and talk to people.


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[Assistant] The Blefuscudian officers saw me and were very interested in speaking to me. I was very friendly to them.


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[Assistant] We would like to invite you to visit our country as our friend. The Blefuscudian King would like to meet you.


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[Assistant] I would love to visit your country, friends, I said. I have heard that your king is very famous, and his country is beautiful. So we agreed that I would come to Blefuscu as soon as I could.


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[Assistant] How can they pity me after what Mr. Brocklehurst said? Mr. Brocklehurst is not a god, nor is he even a great and admired man.


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[Assistant] He's a little liked here. He never took steps to make himself like.


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[Assistant] Hattie treated you as a special favourite. You would have found enemies, declared or covert all around you.


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[Assistant] As it is, the greater number would offer you sympathy if they dared.


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[Assistant] Teachers and pupils may look coldly on you for a day or two, but friendly feelings are concealed in their hearts, and if you persevere in doing well, these feelings will ere long appear so much the more evidently for the temporary suppression. Besides, Jane," she paused.


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[Assistant] She chafed my fingers gently to warm them and went on. If all the world hated you and believed you wicked.


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[Assistant] While your own conscience approved you and absolved you from guilt, you would not be without friends. No.


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[Assistant] I know I should think well of myself, but that's not enough. If others don't love me, I would rather die than live. I cannot bear to be solitary and hate it, Helen.


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[Assistant] The sovereign hand that created your frame and put life into it has provided you with other resources than your feeble self or than creatures as feeble as you.


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[Assistant] That world is around us for it is everywhere, and those spirits watch us, for they are commissioned to guard us.


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[Assistant] And if we were dying in pain and shame, if scorns smote us on all sides, and hatred crushed us, angels seal our tortures, recognize our innocence,


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[Assistant] If innocent we be, as I know you are, of this charge which Mr. Brocklehurst has weakly and pompously repeated at second hand from Mrs. Reed, for I read a sincere nature in your ardent eyes and on your clear front.


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[Assistant] And God waits only a separation of spirit from flesh to crown us with a full reward.


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[Assistant] Why then should we ever sink overwhelmed with distress when life is so soon over and death is so certain an entrance to happiness? To glory!


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[Assistant] I was silent. Helen had calmed me, but in the tranquility she imparted, there was an alloy of inexpressible sadness.


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[Assistant] I felt the impression of woe as she spoke, but I could not tell whence it came.


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[Assistant] And her light, streaming in through a window near, shone full both on us and on the approaching figure, which we at once recognized as Miss Temple. I came on purpose to find you, Jane Eyre, said she. I want you in my room. And as Helen Burns is with you, she may come too.


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[Assistant] We went. Following the superintendent's guidance, we had to thread some intricate passages and mount a staircase before we reached her apartment. It contained a good fire and looked cheerful.


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[Assistant] This temple told Helen Burns to be seated in a low armchair on one side of the hearth, and herself taking another, she called me to her side.


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[Assistant] Because I have been wrongly accused, and you, ma'am, and everybody else will now think me wicked. We shall think what you prove yourself to be, my child. Continue to act as a good girl, and you will satisfy us. Shall I, Miss Temple? You will, said she, passing her arm round me.


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[Assistant] And now tell me, who is the lady whom Mr. Brocklehurst called your benefactress? Mrs. Reed, my uncle's wife. My uncle's dead, and he left me to her care. Did she not then adopt you of her own accord? No, ma'am.


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[Assistant] She was sorry to have to do it, but my uncle, as I have often heard the servant say, got her to promise before he died that she would always keep me.


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[Assistant] Well now Jane, you know, or at least I will tell you, that when a criminal is accused, he is always allowed to speak in his own defence. You have been charged with falsehood. Defend yourself to me as well as you can.


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[Assistant] Say whatever your memory suggests is true, but add nothing and exaggerate nothing.


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[Assistant] It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. It was the season of light. It was the season of darkness. It was the spring of hope. It was the winter of sadness.


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[Assistant] It was the year 1775. In France, there was a king and a queen. And in England, there was a king and a queen. They believed that nothing would ever change. But in France, things were bad and getting worse. The people were poor, hungry, and unhappy. The queen made paper money and spent it. And the people had nothing to eat.


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[Assistant] In the next days and weeks, I was able to feed myself by using the oats that the Huyanims ate to make bread. I drank milk or water and found herbs in the forest to eat with my bread.


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[Assistant] Soon I decided to learn the Huyenims language. The grey horse, who was one of the leaders of the Huyenims, helped me to study. After a few months, I was able to understand his questions and could give him simple answers.


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[Assistant] The grey horse was very curious about where I had come from.


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[Assistant] I soon learned that the Huyinims believed that I was a yahoo because our bodies were so similar.


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[Assistant] You do not have as much hair as our yahoos on this island. And you are not as ugly, said the grey horse to me one day.


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[Assistant] But your head and hands and legs are just like theirs, so you must be a yahoo. Who taught you to speak and act intelligently? I laughed and explained to him that the English people were all very intelligent, and it was normal for us to have less hair. We are not yahoos, but human beings, I said to him.


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[Assistant] I explained to him that England was a great civilization with many strong ships to carry men around the world. I then told the horse about the criminals who had taken my ship and forced me to go to the Huyenims Island.


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[Assistant] I could see that the gray horse still did not believe me. He said, you must be mistaken or perhaps you are saying something that is not. At first I didn't understand what the gray horse meant.


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[Assistant] But later I learned that there is no word for lie in the Hu'yanim's language.


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[Assistant] This is because the Huyenims were not able to lie.


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[Assistant] However, the grey horse thought that I was not telling him the truth.


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[Assistant] It is impossible that there is another land beyond the sea.


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[Assistant] And it is also impossible that a group of yahoos could build something to cross the seas.


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[Assistant] If a huyanim could not build something like this, then a yahoo certainly could not.


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[Assistant] I could not speak the Hu'yanim's language very well yet, so I could not convince the Grey Horse that I was telling the truth. For the next six months, the Grey Horse and I studied the language and customs of the Hu'yanim's every day.


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[Assistant] Soon I began to call him my teacher and master.


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[Assistant] The Huyanims who came to visit my master were always very surprised and interested to meet me.


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[Assistant] When they heard me speak their language, they were amazed.


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[Assistant] However, everyone still thought I was Yahoo.


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[Assistant] I did not want the Huya-nimms to think I was an ugly, dirty yahoo. Because of this, I always wore my clothing to make myself look as different as possible from the yahoos. Of course, the Huya-nimms did not wear clothing, so they thought my clothing was part of my skin.


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[Assistant] After half a year, my clothing had become old and in bad condition. It was very dirty and torn, so that my skin showed through in some places. Now the Huyenims could see that this clothing was not part of my skin.


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[Assistant] When my master discovered this, he asked me to take off my outside skin as he called my clothes. I agreed and took off my clothing one piece at a time.


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[Assistant] First I took off my coat and then removed my shirt and pants. My master watched me with great interest and was very curious about clothing and its purpose.


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[Assistant] Why do you wear this strange outer skin? my master asked.


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[Assistant] Well, it protects my people from the hot and cold air, and it lets us hide the parts of our body that nature wants us to hide, I said. My master looked as if he did not understand.


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[Assistant] Certainly, nature has created our bodies. Therefore, nature does not want us to hide anything.


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[Assistant] My people do not need these clothes, he said.


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[Assistant] When I finished undressing, my master looked over my body closely, walking around me in a circle a few times.


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[Assistant] I see now that you are definitely a yahoo, you said at last.


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[Assistant] This upset me very much. I did not want to be thought of as one of those terrible, ugly animals. Master, I promise you, I am not one of those yahoos.


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[Assistant] My people do not climb in trees, walk on four legs, or have thick hair all over our bodies, I cried.


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[Assistant] But my master was still convinced. It is clear to me that you are a Yahoo. You have less hair on your body, you can speak, and you walk on two legs instead of four. But the shape of your body is the same as a Yahoo's. I did not want to argue with my master anymore.


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[Assistant] Instead, I decided to learn how to speak the Hu'yanim language extremely well. In time,


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[Assistant] The Huyenems would realize I was as intelligent as they.


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[Assistant] I took up my muff and walked on. The incident had occurred and was gone for me.


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[Assistant] It was an incident of no moment, no romance, no interest in a sense, yet it marked with change one single hour of a monotonous life. My help had been needed and claimed. I had given it. I was pleased to have done something. Trivial, transitory though the deed was, it was yet an active thing, and I was weary of an existence all passive.


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[Assistant] The new face, too, was like a new picture introduced at the gallery of memory, and it was dissimilar to all the others hanging there, firstly because it was masculine, and secondly because it was dark, strong, and stern. I had it still before me when I entered Hay, and slipped the letter into the post-office. I saw it as I walked fast downhill all the way home. When I came to the stile, I stopped a minute, looked round and listened.


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[Assistant] With an idea that a horse's hooves might ring on the causeway again, and that a rider in a cloak


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[Assistant] And a guy-trash-like Newfoundland dog might be again apparent. I saw only the hedge and a pollard willow before me, rising up still and straight to meet the moonbeams.


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[Assistant] I heard only the faintest waft of wind roaming fitfully among the trees round Thornfield, a mile distant. And when I glanced down in the direction of the murmur, my eye, traversing the hall-front, caught a light kindling in a window. It reminded me that I was late, and I hurried on.


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[Assistant] The path it's threshold was to return to stagnation.


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[Assistant] To cross the silent hall, to ascend the darksome staircase, to seek my own lonely little room,


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[Assistant] And then to meet Trank or Mrs Fairfax and spend the long winter evening with her, and her only.


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[Assistant] Was to quell wholly the faint excitement wakened by my walk. To slip again over my faculties.


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[Assistant] The viewless fetters of a uniform and too still existence, of an existence whose very privileges of security and ease I was becoming incapable of appreciating.


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[Assistant] What good it would have done me at that time, to have been tossed in the storms of an uncertain, struggling life.


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[Assistant] Just as much good as it would do a man tired of sitting still in a too easy chair to take a long walk.


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[Assistant] And just as natural was the wish to stir under my circumstances as it would be under his. I lingered at the gates. I lingered on the lawn. I paced backwards and forwards on the pavement. The shutters of the glass door were closed. I could not see into the interior.


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[Assistant] And both my eyes and spirit seemed drawn from the gloomy house, from the grey hollow filled with rayless cells as it appeared to me, to that sky expanded before me, a blue sea absolved from taint of cloud.


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[Assistant] The moon ascending it in solemn march, her orb seeming to look up as she left the hilltops from behind which she had come far and farther below her, and aspired to the zenith.


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[Assistant] Midnight dark in its fathomless depth and a measureless distance, and for those trembling stars that followed her course, they made my heart tremble, my veins glow when I viewed them.


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[Assistant] Little things recall us to earth. The clock struck in the hall. That sufficed. I turned from moon and stars, opened a side door, and went in.


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[Assistant] A warm glow suffused both it and the lower steps of the oak staircase. This ruddy shine issued from the great dining room.


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[Assistant] Who's two leaves door stood open and showed a genial fire in the grate, glancing on marble hearth and brass fire irons.


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[Assistant] And revealing the purple draperies and polished furniture in the most pleasant radiance. It reveals too a group near the mantelpiece.


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[Assistant] I'd scarcely caught it, and scarcely become aware of a cheerful mingling of voices, amongst which I seemed to distinguish the tones of a dell when the door closed. I hastened to Mrs Fairfax's room.


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[Assistant] There was a fire there too, but no candle and no Mrs Fairfax. Instead, all alone,


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[Assistant] Sitting upright on the rug and gazing with gravity at the blaze, I beheld a great black-and-white long-haired dog, just like the guy-trash at the lane.


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[Assistant] It was so like it, that I went forward, and said, Pilot, and the thing got up, and came to me, and snuffed me. I caressed him, and he wagged his great tail, but he looked an eerie creature to be alone with, and I could not tell whence he had come. I rang the bell, for I wanted a candle, and I wanted too to get an account of this visitant. Leia entered. What dog is this? It came with Master. With whom?


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[Assistant] Then she hurried out to give orders about tea, and I went upstairs to take off my things.


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[Assistant] I'll kick one off while folks are prepping. First of all, I really love the idea of thinking about other signaling mechanisms. That's, I think, a thing that we've really not gotten very deep in, in the design of these systems. And I really think there's something there. My question is around


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[Assistant] Coming back to your initial, uhm, observation, which is totally right, that,


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[Assistant] We have things like tie strength and well-being as a result in many ways of costly communication, right? The social grooming analysis, the honest signals, all of this is sort of saying that when I put effort and time into something, that's what makes you, it makes clear that I value you because I've done it.


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[Assistant] And when you split out your 2x2, there was still some implication that yes, there might be other values, but at the same time, the non-click is still not perceived as costly.


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[Assistant] Right? So, if I'm not doing anything,


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[Assistant] That you can see if you're the poster it's it's it's not a costly communication.


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[Assistant] Uhm, with the exception of the one case that you pointed out where someone brings it offline, but that's probably already between strong tie, right, because we're meeting up in person. So I'm just wondering,


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[Assistant] Is there, is there hope still here for non-clicks leading to good well-being results? Or do you feel that you've, you know, do we wind up in the same position at the end of the day that


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[Assistant] Essentially what was called being called low activity here, I'm just focusing on, on non-clicks. Is it still just winding up with ultimately, I'm not engaging in costly communication. So we're not building tie strength. I'm not, I'm not engaging in the wellbeing behaviors that, that helped in the longterm.


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[Assistant] So I'll bring up a couple questions from, uh, folks who joined. One is, uhm, I'll paraphrase it.


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[Assistant] How, how these same questions are going to get transformed in, in live or sort of synchronous interactions, things like clubhouse where it's happening, you know, at the same time, rather than in this asynchronous manner, is there going to be a similar notion of, of how, how these sort of click or non-click interactions might play out? You know, how are, how are the mechanisms here gonna, gonna unroll?


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[Assistant] Excellent. And one final one noting that we're just about at time. He's referring to, uhm,


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[Assistant] To the emotional contagion study looking at how essentially


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[Assistant] Rather than creating jealousy as, as he puts it. So you, you gave this example sort of like, you know, nice photos of leaves versus bad photos of leaves or photos of a vacation, making me, uh, feel relaxed rather than jealous. And I think there, underlying his question seems to be sort of like, well, what,


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[Assistant] Are there ways to differentiate these uses and are there also different kinds of signals that get used in each case?


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[Assistant] How does he get away with it? What reason did he give you when I discharged him?


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[Assistant] It's not funny to me, Mrs. Asgard. We had an unexpected audit six weeks ago, and the account showed a deficit of 2,000 pounds. And when I looked into Johnny's records, I'm terribly sorry, Mrs. Asgard. He should have told you.


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[Assistant] After breakfast, Adele and I withdrew to the library, which room, it appears, Mr. Rochester had directed to be used as the schoolroom.


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[Assistant] Most of the books were locked up behind glass doors, but there was one bookcase left open, containing everything that could be needed in the way of elementary works, and several volumes of light literature, poetry, biography, travels, and a few romances, etc.


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[Assistant] That these were all the governors would require for her private perusal. And indeed, they contented me amply for the present.


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[Assistant] Compared with the scanty pickings I had now and then been able to glean at Lowood,


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[Assistant] They seemed to offer an abundant harvest of entertainment and information.


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[Assistant] In this room, too, there was a cabinet piano, quite new and of superior tone.


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[Assistant] Also an easel for painting and a pair of globes.


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[Assistant] I found my pupil sufficiently docile, though disinclined to apply. She had not been used to regular occupation of any kind.


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[Assistant] I felt it would be injudicious to confine her too much at first.


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[Assistant] So when I had talked to her a great deal and got her to learn a little, and when the morning had advanced to noon, I allowed her to return to her nurse.


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[Assistant] I then propose to occupy myself till dinnertime in drawing some little sketches for her use.


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[Assistant] As I was going upstairs to fetch my portfolio and pencils, Mrs Fairfax called to me. Your morning school hours are over now, I suppose? said she. She was in a room, the folding doors of which stood open. I went in when she addressed me.


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[Assistant] It was a large stately apartment with purple chairs and curtains, a turkey carpet.


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[Assistant] Walnut-paneled walls, one vast window rich in stained glass, and a lofty ceiling nobly moulded.


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[Assistant] Mrs Fairfax was dusting some vases of fine purple spar which stood on a sideboard. What a beautiful room! I exclaimed as I looked round, for I had never before seen any half so imposing. Yes, this is the dining-room.


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[Assistant] Everything gets so damp in apartments that are seldom inhabited. The drawing-room yonder feels like a vault. She pointed to a wide arch corresponding to the window.


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[Assistant] And hung like it with a Tyrion dyed curtain, now looped up.


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[Assistant] Mounting to it by two broad steps and looking through.


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[Assistant] I thought I caught a glimpse of a fairy place. So bright to my novice eyes appeared the view beyond.


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[Assistant] Yet it was merely a very pretty drawing-room, and within it a boudoir, both spread with white carpets, on which seem laid brilliant garlands of flowers.


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[Assistant] Both sealed with snowy mouldings of white grapes and vine-leaves, beneath which glowed in rich contrast crimson couches and ottomans, while the ornaments on the pale parian mantelpiece were of sparkling bohemian glass, ruby red.


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[Assistant] Between the windows, large mirrors repeated the general blending of snow and fire.


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[Assistant] Except that the air feels chilly, one would think they were inhabited daily. Why, Miss Eyre, though Mr. Rochester's visits here are rare, they are always sudden and unexpected.


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[Assistant] And as I observed that it put him out to find everything swathed up and to have a bustle of arrangement on his arrival, I thought it best to keep the rooms in readiness.


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[Assistant] Not particularly so, but he has a gentleman's tastes and habits that he expects to have things managed in conformity to them. Do you like him? Is he generally liked? Oh yes, the family have always been respected here.


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[Assistant] Almost all the land in this neighborhood, as far as you can see, has belonged to the Rochester's. Try them out at mine.


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[Assistant] Alright, Craig, if you were being eaten alive, would you rather be swallowed head first or be swallowed feet first? Uh, okay, I assume we're gonna die here. I-I'm assuming.


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[Assistant] Okay, head first to get it over and done with faster. Cause if you have his feet first, you have to, the guy's gonna chunk you up the whole entire way before getting to your head, right? That's true, that's lots of stuff. But if you go head first, it's just BOOM, I'm done. If I'm gonna die regardless, head first, just get it over and done with. Get it over with? Mhm. The world agrees. BOOM! Thank you world!


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[Assistant] Alright, Anthony, if you were on a safari, would you rather have your foot stepped on by an elephant, or have your foot bitten off by a lion? Regardless, you're not gonna have a foot. It doesn't say bitten off, it just says bitten. It's a lion. I know, but still, I mean-


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[Assistant] See, everyone was like what I thought, cause I thought it was just bitten off. Yeah. Everyone thought that, yay, you lose a point. Everybody's supposed to have every bone in their foot crushed, as opposed to just having a chance.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, no, after you said what you said, yeaah, I would've went lying. You got, you got, uh, Would you rather, would you rather, would you rather? Ha ha! My froyo is here! So we're currently waiting for Craig to get back, he, uh,


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[Assistant] Ordered ice cream off 824 and was having ice cream delivered to him. One serving.


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[Assistant] One serving of ice cream. In the middle of a recording session.


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[Assistant] Alright, where were we? Anthony, would you rather, would you rather be chased by a hundred rabid squirrels through a flat open plain or go down a 200 foot slide completely made out of ice head first with your shirt off? That's extremely specific.


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[Assistant] And I really don't wanna lose my nipples, although they're pretty much worthless. I mean mine are. You have some mighty fine nipples. I'm touching them right now, you just can't see it.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, I mean rabbit squirrels, they might have rabies or something like that, and there's a hundred of them. What do you mean rabbit squirrels might have rabies? If the squirrels have rabies, and it bites you, good luck.


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[Assistant] Mhm, or be reborn with all your memories into a baby of the opposite sex.


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[Assistant] I would go right, cause I feel like leading a boring life would suck. It'd be boring.


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[Assistant] Same! It's, it's either one or the other. It's like I can find my keys but I can't find my phone. Or I can find my phone but I can't find my keys.


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[Assistant] Oh, Jesus. Uhm, man, I mean they both suck. Yeaah. I've only got one set of keys, but I've also only got one cell phone. Hmmm. There's no keys, I can't go anywhere.


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[Assistant] Or, never again play a game on a portable device, slash console. Never again play on a console. Yeah, that's- Because, because, I mean, you get all your games on a PC, and if I wanna play with a controller, I can just plug it into my computer. True. So, yeah, never, never console. I mean, that's, for me, that's twice as important. Okay. Excellent choice.


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[Assistant] I'm automatically just gonna go to the bong water, because in essence, it is just water.


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[Assistant] In essence, yeaah, it is just water. But three shots of dip is literally just chewed up tobacco in, in... SPIT! SPIT! SPIT! Yeah, from, from someone else. I'm probably gonna bomb it either way. Yeah, and it's also like three shots of spit where it's probably a bit more like...


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[Assistant] Chewy? Yeah, I guess. I'm just gonna get sick thinking about it. Yeah, three shots of dirty bone water, you can just take those and get on with your life and then... There you go.


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[Assistant] Oh, yeah, that's not a fun question. My stomach is uneasy because of that one already. Mm-hmm. All right. Do you have a favorite romance novel hero, Craig?


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[Assistant] Or push a button and have a random 10,000 people die. You won't be punished, but people know what you did.


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[Assistant] I would rather kill myself, because think of it, right? 10,000 people. That's a fuck-ton of people. I feel like if you push a button to have 10,000 people die, that's the most selfish option you could probably take. Just like, hey, fuck these guys, but I get to live for a while. It's like, nah, fuck that, nah, I'd rather kill myself.


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[Assistant] Just. Wow. So let's do the math here. Let's do the math here. So 535,000 people all want to kill 10,000 people as opposed to dying. Wow. I mean the earth's gone. Yeah. We're gone. Oh. Fuck. Alright, well that just got really heavy. Let's move on.


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[Assistant] Would you rather get electrocuted for 10 seconds or get slapped 20 times? It doesn't say how many volts of electricity. That makes a difference. It doesn't say how hard the slap is. Well it's true, I can get the piss slapped out of me. Yea, or you could just be like a... E. Like one of those kind of deals.


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[Assistant] Or get electrocuted for ten seconds. Straight, I'm assuming. I'm assuming it's a consecutive ten seconds. Ten seconds when you're getting electrocuted, I would say that would last a really fucking long time.


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[Assistant] The title is just enjoy your breakfast. If you had to do one thing every morning, would you rather need to milk yourself? Or lay an egg? I think... I would...


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[Assistant] I think I would rather be incre-incredited, Jesus Christ. I think I'd rather be credited with the invention of the internet.


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[Assistant] Well, imagine the wheel, that was millions of years ago, so you'd already be dead, and people would only hear about you in history books, right?


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[Assistant] Wow. Oh my god, wow. Wow. There you go. I was just gonna throw out the argument that I'd rather lick toilet seat because they probably clean it every day. Ooh. Okay, that's fine. Okay.


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[Assistant] Well, whilst, like, when you lose both your legs, obviously you're still in a wheelchair, you can still be in the Olympics and stuff. Yea, I can still touch myself.


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[Assistant] Tuna- Tuna can fish-chode legs! Would you rather be SpongeBob? Or would you rather be Patrick?


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[Assistant] Spongebob. Spongebob? Mmhmm. Spongebob is my bae. Simple as that. Patrick, as much as he is very very level, is thick as fuck. Uh, would you rather wear high heels or wear a dress? Now, if I'm being forced to wear either of these articles of clothing, I know that I already know which one you're going to go with. You don't know. And if you do know,


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[Assistant] Let's see if your reasoning's correct. I'm gonna pick the heels. It's not that I mind wearing a dress. It's just that if I'm gonna be wearing women's clothing, I'm gonna pick the heels because they accentuate the legs and the ass. And you bet I'm gonna look fuckin' fly! So I'm gonna go with the heels, cuz I want that- I want that booty lookin' nice! You want that booty, though! That's right, I want that peach! I will admit, that's not what I was thinking!


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[Assistant] Speaking. I believe you. Fuck tarantulas. Yea, that's not even close. Oh my god, well- Not even fucking close.


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[Assistant] The rest of the population is gone. The world is not destroyed but you have no hope of reviving the human race. Just you and the wildlife. Oh, you get wildlife?


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[Assistant] Well, I would not be a celebrated academic because there's also, like, really, really, really smart people who are also actors. Musicians, for example. You know? Yeah, for sure.