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[Assistant] After seven or eight minutes, she started to talk again.


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[Assistant] Before I give our reply, I'd like to ask a question first. If we do form a united front of...


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[Assistant] Divine will, as you said, will lead us to fight against demons.


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[Assistant] Surprised by this sudden question, Roland fell silent for a moment and then asked with a smile, You seem to have something else to say.


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[Assistant] Pasha replied, as this united front is related to the survival of all human beings, we hope that every decision we make here can be given full consideration.


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[Assistant] To this end, we the survivors of tequila suggest we adopt a co-governance mechanism for the united front.


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[Assistant] Under such a system, all decisions will be jointly made by the heads of the most powerful groups after negotiation.


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[Assistant] By doing so, we'll be able to avoid misjudgment and ensure an equal interest of every party. Uhm. It sounds like the Union's Three Chiefs system.


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[Assistant] The ancient which further explained, a triumvirate can ensure a quick and well-balanced decision-making process. But it's not the only choice.


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[Assistant] Regarding the current situation, we'd better build a system to include the four kingdoms and all the witch organizations.


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[Assistant] In the early days of the Union, there were 11 leaders planning our military campaigns at the Roundtable.


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[Assistant] Hearing this, Rowland had to admit they were quite clever in this matter since this co-governance mechanism they proposed would surely guarantee their own status in the United Front.


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[Assistant] At this moment, except as Grey Castle, all the kingdoms in which organizations such as the Witch Union and Sleeping Island could hardly compete with the Tequila survivors who had taken over all the magic power instruments left by the underground civilization and owned over 100 god's punishment witches.


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[Assistant] They had accumulated rich fighting experiences during a decades-long battle against demons and were overwhelmingly powerful when fighting with other witches and common armies.


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[Assistant] Roland believed that if he agreed, the Tequila Witches would naturally become one of the policy makers of the co-governance system.


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[Assistant] They would further ensure their own interests by stressing their identities as witches to gain recognition from and establish good relationships with the other witch organizations.


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[Assistant] He thought that they made such a request probably because they wanted to protect themselves, not because they were planning something like restoring their rule over human beings or overthrowing the kingdoms.


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[Assistant] He understood that every group would be prudent and want such a self-protecting measure before joining in a large organization.


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[Assistant] If he had been the old Prince Roland who had recently become a Lord of Border Town, he would have accepted this suggestion of the tequila witches. But now he was different.


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[Assistant] With an air of authority, he said, an interesting suggestion, but the united front won't adopt a co-governance mechanism. It'll have only one leader. That is me. This is the most efficient and reliable way of managing it.


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[Assistant] He agreed that modesty was a virtue, but also knew that now was not the right time for him to be humble, since he was clear that the Three Chiefs system might be a good choice for the Union, but not for him.


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[Assistant] He was the only one in this world who knew what industrialization was and how to make the best use of all the resources in his domain.


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[Assistant] To see rapid industrialization, he had to make all his administrative departments do what he said and work together like a set of machines toward the same goal.


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[Assistant] He wanted every order issued by his city hall to smoothly reach all his subjects and all the resources within his domain to be allocated and managed in accordance with his plan.


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[Assistant] Adopting a co-governance system under which you would have to explain and convince all the other policy makers to carry out a policy obviously would slow down the process of industrialization.


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[Assistant] Seeing Roland reject Tequila's idea outright and bluntly, all the people in the meeting was fell into an awkward silence, including those ancient witches. Roland cleared his throat and calmly continued.


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[Assistant] The United Front is built to guarantee that we'll work together to fight against demons, but I don't require you to join in it at the very beginning.


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[Assistant] I want you to move to the western region to build mutual trust first.


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[Assistant] As compared to some oral agreement, the facts you'll see here will be more convincing. What are we going to see?


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[Assistant] After that, you can make a decision to join in or not.


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[Assistant] Even if you don't join in, we'll still be able to cooperate on many other projects, such as experiments and the search for the chosen one. I promise I won't interfere with your internal affairs.


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[Assistant] Selene interrupted. You won't mind if we don't give you the relic and the magic core?


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[Assistant] No, and in fact, I've never planned to depend on those instruments in the ruins of the maze to defeat demons.


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[Assistant] Regarding the relic, as long as it's kept in a safe place, I won't have a problem with it.


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[Assistant] Like I said, working together to look for the chosen one and protect the relic is the first step to build our mutual trust. As for further cooperation, we can take it slow.


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[Assistant] The cold voice which remained silent for a long time appeared again.


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[Assistant] I've got to say you're very uncommon, you common man. But have you ever thought that controlling the united front on your own can be very risky?


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[Assistant] If the battle of divine will last decades and during this period of time you inevitably become old and weak, how can you ensure that your successors will follow your will to lead us in the war?


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[Assistant] Only a co-governance mechanism can effectively prevent such a problem I don't think it will be a problem at all.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure how long will the war last, but I'm afraid my life will be longer than all of yours combined. At this moment, he felt he needed to bluff.


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[Assistant] Although, he was not sure whether he had got Zero's lifespan as he obviously did not get her magic power.


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[Assistant] He knew that to convince these ancient witches, he had better explain his decision with some incredible power rather than persuading them that a special system which they had never heard of would guarantee that his successors would carry on his work.


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[Assistant] He described to them the sole battlefield in detail and many witches chimed in. After that, there was a long silence.


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[Assistant] He saw that the tentacles of the blobs knotted together again and the scales on their bodies turned from grayish brown to reddish brown, which indicated that they had a heated discussion now. After a long time, their tentacle hanged down.


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[Assistant] Pasha said solemnly, I understand but we need at least a month to move all the things we need.


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[Assistant] I hope you can offer us some building materials as one cave isn't enough for all our things.


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[Assistant] We need to build a palace and a laboratory inside the western mountains.


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[Assistant] Roland was surprised and asked, wait a minute, how can you build something like that underground?


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[Assistant] It was not easy to conduct an underground construction, for the environment below the earth was wet and dark.


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[Assistant] As such he had planned to ask Lotus to connect some underground caves in the western mountains for the tequila survivors since their bodies would not require very comfortable living conditions.


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[Assistant] However, they seem to have mastered better construction skills than him and even plan to build a new palace underground. Pasha explained, our devouring worm will do the job. It's a big shell looking like a wild beast. We've got one in the ruins.


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[Assistant] That was the shell we used to sneak into the City of Glow in the Kingdom of Dawn.


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[Assistant] Roland felt a jolt, thinking, why do these things sound similar to the giant demonic beast in the snow mountain?


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[Assistant] When he was about to raise this question, Agatha asked Pasha, Are you the ones who entered the Devil's Town and devoured the Blackstone Pagoda? Pasha was confused, saying, Devils? Town? No, we didn't.


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[Assistant] We've only used our Devouring Worm to mend the ruins and build the tunnel to the City of Glow. We can't afford to use it so frequently since it eats a lot.


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[Assistant] Roland described the witch's adventures in the Misty Forest and the Devil's Town located to the west of the western region.


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[Assistant] After that, he asked Skrull to take out the pictures of the scenes drawn by Saria and explained this monster, much bigger than any wild beast, seemed to move toward the Great Snow Mountain.


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[Assistant] Seeing the vivid pictures, Pasha took a deep breath and said, Yes, it's indeed a devouring worm.


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[Assistant] I'm afraid that there are also some ruins left by the underground civilization in the snow mountain you mentioned.


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[Assistant] According to the literatures we read here, this civilization once could be found everywhere in the Land of Dawn.


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[Assistant] This record is reliable, as now we can easily find tracks and numerous tunnels left by devouring worms in every high mountain.


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[Assistant] He glanced around and found all the witches in the reception hall looked solemn at this moment.


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[Assistant] Obviously, everybody guessed that the one who sent the worm to Agatha's research tower in the Devil's Town must be the unknown enemy in the Battle of Divine Will.


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[Assistant] Roland wondered whether this enemy had happened to find the ruins and some worm shells in the snow mountain and transfer souls into those shells.


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[Assistant] If this was the case, he believed it would not be a big problem.


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[Assistant] However, if they had also found some magic cores and a central carrier, he believed he would have big trouble.


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[Assistant] Will these things drastically improve their magic theory and even enable them to create some instrument of divine retribution against the witches?


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[Assistant] He thought they had an excellent chance of finding some shells and even instruments in the snow mountain.


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[Assistant] Unlike the impassable mountain range and the dragon's pine mountain range, it did not stretch very long, but its major peak was the highest mount in the western region.


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[Assistant] According to Pasha, such a great mountain was a perfect place to build a large underground city for the underground civilization. Given this, he decided that he must do something about it.


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[Assistant] Celine anxiously said, Your Majesty, please assist us in exploring this snow mountain as soon as possible, in case there are some remaining instruments, and the various kinds of shells recorded in the literature.


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[Assistant] If the unknown enemy gets them, I'm afraid it would cause us lots of trouble.


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[Assistant] Compared to Celine, Pasha still sounded calm, but all her tentacles were waving rapidly, showing her anxiety inside.


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[Assistant] This news apparently caused a stir among the blobs, as it was getting noisy behind Pasha. Roland quickly got why they were so excited.


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[Assistant] Living in the God's Punishment Warrior's bodies for hundreds of years resembled being imprisoned in endless emptiness, which explained why they were so interested in the new carriers.


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[Assistant] However, compared with living in the bodies of God's punishment army, the carriers at least enabled them to have some feelings, including a sense of smell, though they would not look like human beings anymore.


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[Assistant] Roland pretended to hesitate, saying, I see your point.


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[Assistant] I'd been planning to explore the snow mountain of the western region, but as I didn't have any suitable means of transport and didn't want the witches to take any risk, I had to postpone in the end.


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[Assistant] If I could get the help from your devouring worm for this exploration, I think it'll be a good opportunity.


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[Assistant] Passion immediately promised. We'll start to move as fast as we can.


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[Assistant] Roland, who had been thinking about how to start the cooperation with the Tequila survivors, was also happy to get this chance.


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[Assistant] In fact, even if they didn't ask him to explore the mountain, he would do it sooner or later in order to eliminate potential threats around Neverwinter and satisfy his own curiosity toward the big carriers which were able to drill huge tunnels underground.


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[Assistant] He could easily think of a long list of things these carriers could do.


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[Assistant] He had planned to use the impassable mountain range as a natural barrier against the demons, but current engineering techniques did not allow him to do so.


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[Assistant] The transportation of cement and bricks alone would be a tricky problem as the mountain paths were rugged and sinuous and the weather condition there was very unstable.


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[Assistant] If some soldiers were garrison on the mountains, he would have to build barbet for them.


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[Assistant] Near the military facilities, he would also need to build barracks, roads, and necessary living facilities, which would be a big challenge for Hummingbird and Lotus.


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[Assistant] However, if he had a devouring worm, he could solve all those problems by drilling a straight underground tunnel connecting the barbet on the mountain with Neverwinter and building underground ammunition reservoir and barracks, which could keep them away from the snowstorm.


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[Assistant] He could even build a railroad in the tunnel so that steam trailers could be used to transport soldiers and goods.


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[Assistant] With reinforced concrete blockhouses on the ground and convenient transportation lines underground. That would be the natural Chasm defense line he wanted.


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[Assistant] This devouring worm could also be used to build underground utilities and sewage discharge system for the city.


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[Assistant] When that happened, he would proudly announce that in this age, Neverwinter was the first city to have an underground drainage system in which people could walk freely.


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[Assistant] He believed that this worm would be praised highly as a magic tool in the civil engineering field before the invention of tunnel boring machine and would be considered as important as the magic core and the biocomputer.


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[Assistant] Roland rose and walked to the light curtain, extending his right hand toward Pasha. I hope this is the beginning of building our mutual trust. Your Majesty, this is.


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[Assistant] He looked at this monster who was several meters taller than himself and calmly explained, it's a handshake representing a preliminary agreement between us.


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[Assistant] After a little hesitation, Pasha dropped the thickest tentacle on her head. It moved in a spiral and touched his palm in the end. He thought, what a pity.


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[Assistant] Saraya isn't here to witness and record this moment worthy being memorized forever.


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[Assistant] When the image of Pasha started to distort, he suddenly asked, Ah, wait, you said every high mountain might have ruins left by the underground civilization. What about the mountains in the deep sea?


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[Assistant] Pasha was surprised, saying, Are there mountains under the sea?


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[Assistant] According to the literature, they did not go to the sea and only lived on the land of dawn.


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[Assistant] I think they might not be able to move around in the sea as most of their carriers were heavy and clumsy. Why did you ask about this? Nothing. I'm just curious. Roland shook his head and lost in thoughts.


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[Assistant] They only lived on the land of dawn, so the weird underwater spire and telescope have nothing to do with the underground civilization, but who owns the giant stone gates that thunder saw through the old telescope and the land which only appears during flood tide? The unknown enemy in the battle of divine will? I hope thunder can find the answer.


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[Assistant] At this moment, the purple light curtain distorted and then disappeared. The reception hall got back to normal.


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[Assistant] As night fell, Wendy went to the door of Scroll's bedroom.


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[Assistant] She held out her hand, hesitating whether she should knock or not.


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[Assistant] Scroll had apparently taken an early shower as her long. Wet hair was randomly hanging over her shoulders instead of being tied up.


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[Assistant] She had also placed a towel on her shoulders in order to avoid getting her night robe wet.


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[Assistant] At first glimpse, she appeared to be a little younger with her flowing hair covering the wrinkles on her forehead.


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[Assistant] After leading an increasingly comfortable life in Neverwinter, she looked more mellow. Only her wise and mature eyes remained unchanged.


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[Assistant] Of course you do. Whoever initiates the conversation is also responsible for the drinks. That's our old rule and you know it. So that's why you waited for me behind the door? That's right.


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[Assistant] Patience is the most important thing and also one of the lessons I'll draw from life. Now, have you learned your lesson? Fine.


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[Assistant] As they went back to Wendy's bedroom and cleared up the desk Wendy took two glasses and a bottle of chaos drink out of a drawer and poured it into the glasses.


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[Assistant] Roland figured out a very interesting way to distribute the chaos drinks of various tastes to each witch of the witch union.


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[Assistant] Each witch, every month, had an opportunity to pick up a bottle of the Chaos drinks created by Evelyn.


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[Assistant] No one knew what kind of flavor they would get as they would only see a number before the draw was revealed.


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[Assistant] Therefore, on that day, the witch is used to exchange their drinks or drink others.


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[Assistant] Somehow, Maggie always got the most popular drink, making everyone wonder if Evelyn had revealed it to her.


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[Assistant] As they took their time to enjoy the orange-red drink that warmed their hearts, they heard the sound of the cold wind outside the windows. They felt tipsy in the warm bedroom.


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[Assistant] They talked little as they could understand each other just by looking at one another.


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[Assistant] In fact, Wendy had nothing specific to say and just felt very happy at the moment.


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[Assistant] Before this, Roland, in her opinion, was very approachable.


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[Assistant] She was concerned that he would mess up or show weakness on some critical issues, which was unbecoming of a king. But now, he was much better than she had expected.


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[Assistant] Judging from his tone and expression in dealing with other people, he had become more mature and developed his compelling authority thanks to the last two years of experience.


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[Assistant] To her surprise, Roland was much better at being a dominator.


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[Assistant] Even so, he treated the witches and common people the same as before.


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[Assistant] It seemed that it was his nature to be nice to witches, which was very odd, especially for a royal noble.


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[Assistant] She knew that Scroll also had felt this change, so she had waited at the door for her.


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[Assistant] It was a habit they had kept since they were in the Witch Cooperation Association.


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[Assistant] When they had some good news to share, Wendy, Skrull, and Kara would always get together to drink some cheap ale and talk about it overnight.


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[Assistant] However, they had to drink wild fruit water instead of ale when their conditions became worse later on.


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[Assistant] Sadly, they gradually talked about their concerns and problems instead of good news or plans because Kara had a different purpose from them, leaving Wendy and Scroll behind.


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[Assistant] As the eldest witches and the founders of the Witch Cooperation Association, Wendy and Skrull had to be strong, because if they gave up, all witches would lose their faith in seeking the Holy Mountain.


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[Assistant] That was how they survived through all the suffering and tough times. And now, those times became the past once more.


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[Assistant] Wendy gave a general description of each of their abilities but was deliberately vague when it came to Broken Sword. Can you guess who he assigned Broken Sword to? Ah, probably Nightingale or Ashes. Only they can make full use of Broken Sword's power.


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[Assistant] Additionally, there are few combat witches in the Witch Union.


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[Assistant] According to him, a weapon needs to be carried by the owner personally at all times. But in that case, broken sword would have limited freedom.


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[Assistant] Besides, the enemies won't always launch an attack at her working time and her sword's aura isn't as powerful as gunpowder.


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[Assistant] Hence, she can partner with each witch to test their overlapping effects rather than to be a weapon.


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[Assistant] Then, based on how interesting the combination is, His Majesty will assign her job.


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[Assistant] A sign or a job based on how interesting the combination is? Yeah, those were his majesty's words exactly.


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[Assistant] He attached more importance to her feelings instead of giving her a role that limited her.


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[Assistant] Perhaps that was the reason why Nightingale chose to support him with her entire heart.


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[Assistant] Now in hindsight, it was fortunate that they chose to believe Nightingale's judgement. Thinking of this, Wendy could not help smiling.


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[Assistant] After filling her glass again, she held it before scroll. To us, for finding such a good king.


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[Assistant] Having drunk the last sip, she found that the bottle had been emptied out when she wanted to fill the glass again. Do you want me to return to my room to get mine? Scroll also wanted to continue drinking. No, we must follow the old rule. She waved her hands and took a bottle from another drawer. But next time, I'll wait for you to knock on my door. Wait a moment. Isn't that nightingales? Yes, but she doesn't mind at all.


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[Assistant] They cheered up again and continued to talk on this warm and wonderful night.


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[Assistant] Roll and wipe the fine sweat beads from Anna's forehead and held her in his arms.


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[Assistant] In the dim light, he could still see the attractive blush on her face.


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[Assistant] Roland had the feeling that Anna had become more active in this regard since the last time they talked about the dream world.


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[Assistant] She also tried to learn some new tricks, though her progress was much slower than her learning from books.


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[Assistant] Anna's clumsy and serious manner gave him an entirely new experience.


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[Assistant] His visual enjoyment far surpassed the sensory experience, and he could not help but feel a sense of superiority as an old hand.


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[Assistant] Of course, they would not miss the storytelling session after their time of joy.


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[Assistant] As he was indulging in Anna's fragrance, Roland started to narrate in detail the news brought by the tequila witches as well as his speculation about the battle of divine will.


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[Assistant] Although we've already known that where we live is no larger than a corner of the mainland, I didn't expect that there were actually completely different civilizations scattered beneath the mountains. This world is really full of unknowns.


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[Assistant] I promise that day will come, roll an answer with a smile.


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[Assistant] Even if they could not travel by sea, they could still fly over it. Any land that could be seen through the telescope would not be too far away.


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[Assistant] As long as they had the internal combustion engine, the large airship could come into play. But does God really exist?


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[Assistant] Rolan saw the rippling blue lake in her eyes. That was her unconcealed emotions. He felt a warm current surging in his heart. I'll always be with you. But you can't stay with me all the time. Aye. Anna covered his mouth before he could finish speaking.


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[Assistant] You're the king and also the future commander of the army that will combat the army of demons. How could you stay forever in Neverwinter?


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[Assistant] I can't possess you entirely just for my personal desire.


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[Assistant] The soldiers who fight in the frontline need to see your presence and your subjects in the other cities want you to be with them. She said softly, Roland, I'm already very content that I can listen to your stories like this. Roland was silent for a moment. You're right.


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[Assistant] But wherever I am in the future, you will always be able to hear my stories. I promise you this.


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[Assistant] How could they speak out their words of love if they had to communicate through the sigil of listening? What are you going to do? I'll let you know tomorrow.


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[Assistant] Roland rolled over and lay on top of Anna, then kissed her neck, and slipped all the way from her neck to the clavicle, leaving a shallow mark on her fine, tight skin. But, now it's my turn.


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[Assistant] Once again, they became one, and their sweet breathing sounds rising and falling for a long time before fading away.


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[Assistant] The next day after breakfast, the invigorated Roland walked into the backyard of North Slope Mountain with Anna. Good morning, your majesty.


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[Assistant] Ring followed the actions of her sister and started to bow and cry out cheerfully.


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[Assistant] Roland waved his hand with a smile, indicating that they did not have to be too formal.


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[Assistant] Then he walked to the workbench and pulled out a piece of white paper on which he started to draw a design.


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[Assistant] He intended to carry out the promise he had made last night to Anna before the tequila survivors moved to the western region, a communication tool that he could use to speak to Anna at any time without magic. That would be the wire telephone.


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[Assistant] The principle of the telephone was very simple and that was the most basic application of electromagnetic induction. The sound wave would vibrate the metal reed in the voice tube causing the change of the magnetic flux formed in the magnetic field and finally a fluctuant induced current would be generated.


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[Assistant] While the earpiece, on the contrary, would use the magnetic force generated by the electromagnetic coil to vibrate the membrane and reduce the current into voice.


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[Assistant] In other words, it was fundamentally the same as a generator or an electric motor, except that the latter turned the vibration into a rotation and had a much larger power.


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[Assistant] After hearing what Roland had said, Nightingale still had a vacant look on her face, and when she turned to see if Lucia had understood, she found Lucia was also pondering.


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[Assistant] Electricity and magnetism originate from each other and the magnetism turns into power. I see. Even the little girl ring also showed off her knowledge.


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[Assistant] Sister, are you talking about something in the second chapter of elementary physics? All of these reactions suddenly frustrated Nightingale.


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[Assistant] She gloomily picked up a dried fish and walked into the mist. Roland could not hold back his laughter at this scene.


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[Assistant] He knew that although the principle was simple, it was not that easy to make a functional phone, and the problem lay in the signal transmission. The electrical signal would abate.


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[Assistant] That was the reason why the phone was not widely used in the early stage after it was invented. Once the distance between the callers was too long, it was hard for one side to hear exactly what the other side was saying.


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[Assistant] The phone was not widely used until the electron tube that could amplify the signal was invented.


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[Assistant] Roland was not very good at electricity, so he barely wrote about it in his books.


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[Assistant] Even now that he had the help of the dream world, he still found it quite problematic to make an electron tube.


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[Assistant] Since he did not intend to amplify the signal, there was only one way to do it by reducing the attenuation.


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[Assistant] For example, increase the size of the wire and reduce the loss of the signal in the root. The former was very simple to achieve.


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[Assistant] The required copper wire could be accurately processed by Anna's black fire.


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[Assistant] According to the knowledge he had acquired from his dream world, a 4 millimeters diameter wire could be used to maintain a 50 or 60 kilometers communication without a repeater, while the general telephone connecting wire was only 0.4 to 0.6 millimeters in diameter.


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[Assistant] Although it was somewhat wasteful to use the thick wire, it could effectively avoid the trouble of having to make a signal amplifier.


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[Assistant] The latter could be achieved through coaxial cable. The so-called coaxial cable was made by wrapping the wire with a layer of metal mesh which would be sandwiched by the two wires that were coated with insulating materials and turned into a Faraday cage so as to minimize the divergence of the electrical signal.


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[Assistant] Before the telephone came into widespread use, the technology of wrapping the metal layer was not mature yet. So at that time, people used a loading coil, which meant overlapping the wire with a spirally wound coil casing to reduce the signal loss.


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[Assistant] But Roland did not need to follow this rule since he had Anna's processing skill and Saria's special coding that could complete it in one step.


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[Assistant] Combining the two techniques should allow the telephone signal to be read as far as a few hundred kilometers without a relay, which basically lets it cover most of the residential areas in the western region and would allow Neverwinter to receive real-time updates from the defensive line in the impassable mountain range.


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[Assistant] If he wanted to further extend the range, he would then have to use a signal relay.


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[Assistant] The reason why Roland chose to develop the wire telephone was not only because he was inspired by Anna's words, but also because of the vast usage and practicability of this tool.


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[Assistant] It would serve as a crucial piece for controlling the political situation, enhancing the centralization of the government, and commanding the wartime efforts.


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[Assistant] More importantly, the industrial projects in Neverwinter had already reached a saturation point.


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[Assistant] The new immigrants still had to pass the primary education before they can be absorbed into the various industries.


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[Assistant] The four major industries, civil construction, mineral processing, machine manufacturing, and chemical production, had occupied over 90% of the workforce.


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[Assistant] According to current predictions, it would not be difficult for these four industries to employ sixty thousand to seventy thousand new immigrants once they pass through primary education.


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[Assistant] As these industries were vital for future war efforts, their production could not be interrupted.


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[Assistant] On the other hand, the bicycle plant, which was enthusiastically built by Roland in the beginning, wasn't even able to meet the demand of the First Army.


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[Assistant] The city hall would first shut down the bicycle factory whenever there is a power shortage and reallocate the workers to the steam engine plant whenever there is a shortage of manpower.


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[Assistant] Even though construction on Kingdom Main Street and Route 67 had already been completed, and border area neither raised horses nor stables for horses to rest in, the roads were still mainly used by carriages that came from the Long Song area or other cities.


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[Assistant] Also, with the construction of the railway already underway, the citizens never did start riding bicycles between the border area and the Long Song area.


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[Assistant] Of course, Rowland would never admit to Bariff that he had made this strategic mistake.


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[Assistant] Since then, he would always take into account of Neverwinter's production capability when planning for new facilities.


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[Assistant] The phone happened to be a good product that wouldn't burden Neverwinder's output, and it also does not require much maintenance.


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[Assistant] First of all, Roland would not provide telephone to the market.


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[Assistant] He would only provide it for military communication purposes and basic communication between the border area and the Long Song area.


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[Assistant] Roland only intended to lay down a 1 to 1 cable that connects both sides.


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[Assistant] In this way, it would save him the time and energy of setting up a complex wire network.


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[Assistant] Secondly, starting with a limited number of telephone systems meant that it would only require Anna, Mystery Moon, and Saria to help out during their spare time without having to utilize Neverwinter's labor force.


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[Assistant] Moreover, once they managed to produce vacuum tubes, they could develop telecommunication for the public.


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[Assistant] Therefore, the wire telephone is the most appropriate project to start with before exploring the Great Snow Mountain with the tequila survivors.


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[Assistant] The prototyping stage of manufacturing foams once smoother than he had expected.


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[Assistant] By afternoon, two basic telephones containing magnetic speakers appeared in the backyard of North Slope Mountain.


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[Assistant] It had no shell and looked like an assembly of a coil of wire and magnets.


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[Assistant] It was equipped with a hand operated generator and a mini-Dawn battery.


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[Assistant] Due to the low power requirements, the battery was only as thick as a finger and could last for at least a month, saving him from the trouble of making an independent dry battery. How does this work?


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[Assistant] He grabs the handle and rotates it forcibly, and the magnetic bell on the other side suddenly rang out a sound of jingling. That ringing means that there's a call coming.


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[Assistant] He gave Anna a glance, and she picked up the earpiece and the voice tube.


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[Assistant] When the earpiece is picked up and the switch pops up, it means the voice line is connected and people on both sides can start talking.


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[Assistant] The current that transmits the electrical signals is provided by Mini Don, so without this copper bar enchanted by Mystery Moon, the telephone can only ring but no sound would be transmitted. Oh, I see.


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[Assistant] It was created by all of you, and naturally, you're eligible to be the first few to experience this air-defining communication tool. Roll and laughed.


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[Assistant] There was no need to explain the significance of the phone, since it completely changed how humans could communicate with each other across distant worlds.


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[Assistant] There will be no signal attenuation in such a small yard, so connecting the phone with ordinary copper wire will do.


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[Assistant] In a quiet, snow covered forest, a crisp bell rang out continuously.


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[Assistant] Obviously, they could talk through the phone directly, but they insisted on starting over again from the step of rotating the handle to generate electricity. There really is a voice. It sounds like Lucia. Ah, what should I say? Let her guess who you are.


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[Assistant] The witches, who were separated by the wall, were vying to shout at the voice tube.


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[Assistant] For a few moments, peels of laughter echoed from both ends of the yard. Roland also tried out listening twice. To be honest, he thought the prototype wasn't very good.


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[Assistant] The voice he heard fluctuated a lot and there was a lot of static. Anyways it was definitely not up to standard.


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[Assistant] But he knew that as long as he kept adjusting the size of the metal reed and the space between the electromagnets, he would find the right parameters for the best call quality.


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[Assistant] Soon, the voice tube reached Roland's hand once again.


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[Assistant] He shook his head with a smile and placed the earpiece beside his ear and habitually said,


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[Assistant] He heard nothing but interference from the weak conductance of the copper cable.


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[Assistant] After protecting Roland for a whole day, Nightingale returned to her bedroom in a bad mood.


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[Assistant] This was not the first time she felt like this, because she did not understand anything that the others were saying.


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[Assistant] And every time this happened, only dried fish and ice cream bread could comfort her. Well, now there were also the chaos drinks.


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[Assistant] She truly envied the intimacy between Roland and Anna.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, a faint but unceasing bitterness flooded her.


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[Assistant] She thought that she would get used to it sooner or later, but it turned out to be harder than she had imagined.


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[Assistant] The more invested she got in her feelings the deeper the thorns dug into her heart.


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[Assistant] Now Nightingale somewhat understood what Wendy had told her.


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[Assistant] She walked to the table and pulled open the drawer, but she found out that the bottle inside was empty. Did I take the wrong one?


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[Assistant] As soon as Nightingale turned around, she was hugged by her roommate and Wendy's ample bosom almost squeezed her out of breath. Nightingale, how many years have we known each other?


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[Assistant] You've been with me since you left the Guyland family in Silver City, right?


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[Assistant] We've experienced so many dangers and hardships along the way before today. Nothing can undermine our friendship, right?


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[Assistant] Nightingale fumbled the bag of dried fish and felt that it was empty too.


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[Assistant] Only dried fish, ice cream bread, and chaos drinks can comfort her. Now all of them were gone. Nightingale heard a crack in her heart. In an instant, the bitterness flooded her once again.


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[Assistant] Leadership kind of creates inertia. And when he's saying stand, the people who follow like Newtonian physics are going to laugh me out of the building.


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[Assistant] That's gonna get you to recognize over time. Yes. What you need to do, the self-discipline you need to create. And if your plan is like, I'm just gonna make my folks self-disciplined, you're actually gonna skip the part where they learn why you have to do it. And sometimes that starts with, you're gonna do this.


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[Assistant] You can explain it, but you asked me if I ever had emergent foot or trench foot. I never spent enough time in an environment to have to deal with that, but I'll tell you, my very first forest march, which is a five mile forest march, like a very short forest march at Alsthore Canada School in 1991, we stopped 50 minutes into it, we all changed our socks.


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[Assistant] That's what we did. And so that's one example of


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[Assistant] But it was totally imposed on us, but I was able to make that connection from these other people.


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[Assistant] And so you're telling the story about people that were non-combat ready because of that.


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[Assistant] But those lessons are all over the place in the military, and it all starts the same way, which is sit down, take your boots off, change your socks. And then over time you make the connection of, oh, I understand why I need to do this.


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[Assistant] So no, I never had it, but I was taught that lesson very early on.


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[Assistant] There's a, there's like a very discreet place in the military where you go from being tactical


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[Assistant] And this transition point actually is a big source of friction for a lot of folks. And the people that struggle the most going from company to field grade are the ones who have never thought about the big picture before.


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[Assistant] The easier that transition is, and the longer you hold on, cause it's just kinda like this.


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[Assistant] Cool bravado of like, I'm a tactician, and it sounds really cool, and I just wanna fly the airplane, and I don't really care about the big picture. Well, when the time comes, you get promoted, and you probably will.


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[Assistant] Then all of a sudden you actually became highly incompetent at being a field guard officer because that's when you were starting and you were being outmaneuvered by guys who had been doing it since they were brand new officers.


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[Assistant] You're gonna, eventually you're gonna get rolled. You're all gonna die in that position. You cannot stay there.


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[Assistant] This authenticity doesn't have to be in opposition to what we just described either. Being transparent could be, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna have a conversation to tell you a whole bunch of things that I'm thinking about.


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[Assistant] That are things for you to consider as well. For me, maybe thinking, what I don't want to do is sit here and go, Hey, you've mentioned three things that I really feel like I want to give you feedback on, but I don't want to tell you those things for whatever reason.


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[Assistant] Being transparent is not the same as digging your heels in. Those, the authenticity of that, there's this, you would know this echo.


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[Assistant] I know that you are not going to change my mind. I'm being fully transparent here. This idea of transparency doesn't have to be the opposite of


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[Assistant] What you just described. You can be full of transparent. And if I actually, my relationship is strong enough with you, you know what you're gonna do when I'm being transparent? You're gonna listen to me.


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[Assistant] If you're in a leadership role, if you're in an actual leadership role, how much do you think your people really want to engage with you if you announce your position out of the gate?


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[Assistant] Yeah, my immediate reaction is, must not be changed. I get, I get an intense, like, well that's, that...


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[Assistant] But yeaah, you're right, the basic plan. The basic plan. It doesn't say we can't change, so rather than sort of get all excited that he says he can't change anything, he's right.


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[Assistant] Especially at night, when you look at this whole situation, you actually want to limit.


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[Assistant] You want to limit a lot of things. Now, not the individual actions of the teams of maneuvering and things like that and let them make the adjustments, but you don't want one element to go, you know what? Let's cancel the envelopment.


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[Assistant] And just do something different and abandon your portion of the plan. You actually can't do that. So you actually need to keep the basic plan. That clarity actually made a lot of sense.


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[Assistant] We had the exact same philosophy. We, we had contingency plans, but the part of that that made that possible is our plans were usually really fluid.


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[Assistant] So you could stick to the basic plan. We used to have, just a joke, stick to the plan. That was what we always said, like, what did we do here? Just stick to the plan. That didn't mean you don't think, you don't make changes, but the idea that what we planned and how we coordinated,


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[Assistant] Stick to that and then make smart decisions along the way to reinforce that as opposed to you get halfway there and then, hey, you know what we should do? We should come up with a new plan. Like there's no time to come up with a new plan. Once you cross the line of departure, you kind of need to stick to the plan. The basic plan, which also drove our plans to be basic. We had very basic, big picture plans.


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[Assistant] I don't think so. We used the term fire and maneuver. That was the one element moves, one element covers, and I think it's synonymous.


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[Assistant] Well, you actually weren't talking about bias. I had the word bias in my mind.


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[Assistant] And if you know we get additional pressure, you're going to be the element that biases this out. Now look, something may come up where you can't do that. And that's fine. You may go to the north. Go ahead and let me know. But our plan is that all things being equal.


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[Assistant] The inertia thing, which has kind of bugged me from the beginning, but I actually was thinking about as you were saying, it is, you know, he's talking about like the laws of physics, whereas objects at rest tend to stay at rest and objects in motion tend to stay in motion. And the hard part is getting the


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[Assistant] The staying at rest and getting it to the motion. Like once you get the motion going, actually it's not that hard to keep it going. It's the friction of doing nothing. And it's that connection you, you


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[Assistant] Like you said, I know you didn't invent it, but this idea of default aggressive, this bias for doing something.


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[Assistant] Is the hardest thing to get, which is the natural bias of doing something. And when you made that comment about, when I see weakness or I feel weakness,


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[Assistant] The natural bias is, oh no, I'm not gonna give in to that weakness.


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[Assistant] And he started, the very first thing is leadership versus inertia. It's that how hard is it to get the movement to do something? But once you have that bias, that bias to maneuver and that starts, it's not that hard. It actually gets easier every single time.


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[Assistant] Inertia is not movement, it's just the state that you're in. Inertia could be doing nothing.


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[Assistant] The way I, no one ever thinks it's gonna happen to them. They always know what happens, but it always happens to somebody else, some other team, so much, it never happens to them.


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[Assistant] I mean, even that comment is like, the common occurring or the common debrief that we got on this and whatever he said, like how often they heard that same exact story.


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[Assistant] The news or whatever and we're all just sitting there as observers and it looks completely ridiculous to us as observers. You see it escalating. You see it going nowhere. You see people digging in and when you're just watching it, it's obvious how completely ridiculous it is.


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[Assistant] Remember that when you're about to open your mouth, somebody else is gonna watch it and you're gonna look every bit as ridiculous to them as they did to you.


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[Assistant] When you're talking about listening, and I have learned this in my life, I have learned to have a bias to not talk. I learned that skill. I wasn't born with that skill.


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[Assistant] I don't think anybody would accuse 20 year old Dave of having a bias for listening. That's a learned thing that I have done in my life.


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[Assistant] Because of what you said before, which is I'm talking and you're letting me talk and I think you're listening to me. I'll talk. I'll keep doing my thing. But the second I catch you.


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[Assistant] You actually have to listen, and the only way you'll


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[Assistant] Truly listen to what the other person says, as if in your mind, you believe that you might get something out of it. Cause if you think you're like, ah dude, here goes Echo.


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[Assistant] He's gonna just go do what he does and it's gonna be a complete waste of time. The minute I do that, I'm gonna miss something. And the actual listening part is a lot harder than it sounds.


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[Assistant] The active listening piece better come from a place of authenticity or you're going to get found out in a second because your body language is going to give the whole thing away. And then you might as well just cut them off right there because they're not listening because he knows you're not listening to me. Uh, yeah, there's a lot with that and as simple as it sounds.


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[Assistant] To listen. If it was so easy, we wouldn't have to say it over and over again.


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[Assistant] Your detector, your fire detector with a 9 volt battery that's dead?


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[Assistant] So what you're talking about, that's the slap in the face, which was you were totally unprepared for the situation, now you're up all night, you think you solved the problem, the second you get to bed, lights out, covers, babe I gotta sort, beep, and then you're up again.


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[Assistant] So I'm with you. I learned this lesson.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's it. That's leadership, right? It's leadership is gonna be the deciding factor here because the terrain is so...


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[Assistant] Life is more like mountain warfare than it is going to be these big open fields if your life can just reveal themselves and you're just going to plan your move down the road. There are so many things that are popping up when we're talking to companies right now.


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[Assistant] That's what life is. It's not just this easy straight road from A to B and you just march down and everything is clean. And how crazy that has to be that at every single turn, something comes up and the tool, the only tool that you have to get past that is leadership.


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[Assistant] Alright, this is Nojumper, featuring our first ever skate guest, and as a result I have a skate co-host, Justin Maruko.


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[Assistant] Okay, alright, so what do you want to say to the people who maybe don't know as much about skateboarding? Because for me, I'm a huge fan of it, but I don't necessarily know all the details. How would you describe these guys?


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[Assistant] One. One. Because he has a beer, and I met you at the bar, so clearly you must be 21. I think he's 22 now, right? 22, yeah. Yeah, okay. It would make no sense if you weren't 20, because I've seen you in the bar. But okay, an age?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I was astonished when you told me that Jacob was only 20 or 21, of course, but like, you know, to be a full-time staff photographer at the skateboard mag, that's pretty mind-blowing to be that young and to hold down that title, so.


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[Assistant] Really? That's very interesting. Cause I grew up in fucking New Hampshire, you grew up in Massachusetts where it's like, I, I can remember every pro that I met up until like 22 when I started to meet people.


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[Assistant] See I think that's good for like a young kid to kind of be in that position because of the fact that like,


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[Assistant] You know, like shooting photos, it's like if you see photography as this like insurmountable thing that you couldn't possibly learn how to do, then it's gonna seem really fucking hard. But if you're always around people to learn from and stuff like that, you know, we all know dudes who grew up around some amazing pro skater or rider who like clearly benefited from that because they realized early on like, oh I can, I can learn all this shit.


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[Assistant] Cause what could be the worst thing, like when you meet like a young kid, it's like if you're deciding what category to put him in, as in like, cool, legitimate dude that I can hang out with, or little fucking kid that I need to be away from, is like, when they're really excited to meet you, it's flattering, but it's also like, this means that we probably are not gonna be real friends, you know?


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[Assistant] And that, but that's cool because like that fucking, those kind of problem solving skills honestly, and I know I probably sound like an old man right now, but those kind of like skills.


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[Assistant] In terms of like networking and like knowing how to get around and stuff, those are the kind of things that are gonna help you once you like get into being an audio visual professional or whatever, like you're making videos, it's like you need to like think fast on your feet, you need to be able to figure out situations that you have no prior training towards and shit like that, so.


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[Assistant] See, that's funny as fuck, the Uber thing, because like, in BMX it's not really an option because the bikes are too big, but in skateboarding that makes so much sense, and it's like, okay, you're not gonna skate five miles, but five miles in an Uber is like ten bucks, like eight bucks, that you can split between, you know.


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[Assistant] Well maybe you won't go with photo instead of video because I feel like video is way more popular than photography now.


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[Assistant] Really? See, that doesn't make sense to me. How the fuck are you shooting an alright photo your first try, or your first...


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[Assistant] I have to say this though is that I've only hung out with Atiba once and it was like a photo shoot for some skate company, like that was doing shoes. It was some bullshit that like never even really came out and they were like, oh, we need like a BMX dude to be in the photos or whatever. And Atiba asked me to like do a trick, like 180 over this thing that I wouldn't normally do. And I was just like, all right, fuck it. And I fucking fell back and split a fucking thing in my head. I got a concussion.


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[Assistant] Right, I've heard stories about like pro, like, you know, Jamie Thomas, I think it was, telling dudes, young dudes, like, who were kinda hyped on themselves, like, yo, like, y-you know, do not do that, don't talk about how many clips you have, don't talk about how hard you've been working.


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[Assistant] So okay, you kissed a guy. How did this occur?


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[Assistant] And you're experiencing like success day to day, like your kind of position is like the, for most of the kids who work there, that's probably like the best position that they could hope for. For your teachers, like they've probably never experienced like, you know,


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[Assistant] Really? So like, yea, like what are the kind of things specifically that you could see yourself doing, uh, after skate or while you're doing skate stuff?


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[Assistant] You don't think of yourself as your age, it doesn't seem like, right? Is it weird for you to even have us like freaking out, like acknowledging that it's a big deal that you've done a lot?


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[Assistant] You don't care that much to look at like other skate magazines or like look at what everybody else is doing?


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[Assistant] Okay, how do you feel about like the current state of skate media? Because obviously some magazines have gone away, you still work for one, but you probably do a lot of stuff online too, like have you been affected by or are you concerned about the fact that like some magazines might not seem like they're doing that well?


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[Assistant] Do you feel like that was like an important experience for you to get in? Yea, sure. I have a question for Oscar, like, at this point, you lost the sponsor, whatever, like,


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[Assistant] Do you, like, how do you go about, like, finding another one? Like, do you actually, like, throw out, like, talk to people or anything? Or do you just kind of wait for somebody to hit you up?


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[Assistant] You know what I like about both of them though is that when you were talking about like how they were, I guess Jake is specifically like how he got noticed, that it was just like oh we were skating here and we were skating here and we were skating and like you guys both just seemed like super motivated to skate and actually be out there which is


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[Assistant] Refreshing because, you know, like a lot of dudes are in the industry, even like pro BMX guys or skate guys or whatever, they seem like they get in that position and then they're a little bit over it.


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[Assistant] And see, that's the right attitude, right? That's a beautiful thing to just still be motivated either way because, I mean, a lot of people aren't really like that. But I think that if you want to be a pro skater these days, you pretty much have to like love skating enough to actually be doing it all the fucking time, whereas


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[Assistant] What about, uh, what about you? You got any last questions? I mean, we're at 1.20, so.


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[Assistant] You think she has like ten? I mean, is she even? Even ten? Yea, maybe eight, nine?


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[Assistant] Getting it off, she's getting broke off and doesn't care. But then does a perfect heel flip down a three stair, like style, like wearing a fairy costume.


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[Assistant] Actually don't go to black unless you're a hot girl.


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[Assistant] Unless you're frame perfect 99 out of 100 times, you're not good enough. That's my mindset. That's what I tell myself. That's how I got good.


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[Assistant] I'll do like up air and fast fall like the next frame so that I can hit them just barely, but they can't hit me. And if somehow the upper misses, I get a double jump near and stuff like that. I did that at MLG. I just trained and trained and trained like three hours a day for like two weeks.


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[Assistant] I spent like 2000 hours on that shit, just double checking, triple checking, just to make sure it was absolutely accurate, just to make sure we get it.


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[Assistant] I beat Stephen Miro's original on NES. I beat it when I was 5. I made tons of, like, pixel art and stuff back then.


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[Assistant] This is something I started once, I was like, I'm gonna make a big maze, and literally 90% of it I do line by line, pixel by pixel.


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[Assistant] I'm like proof that a nobody can become number one.


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[Assistant] So I just try to get really ahead of the curve so that way I can like make a lot of money and make a name for myself even more and just have fun, just everything.


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[Assistant] I have fun playing Mana 8 because he's fast and I like combos. He feels like the only melee character. I just try to figure out everything really fast.


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[Assistant] Cause they're two different games. At some point in 08 I was actually like top number one in both games.


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[Assistant] I have like depression problems, like when I'm like not playing good in a day or just feeling down for whatever reason, I just like, I just get depressed and then that's a really big problem I have. I just get depressed and then I just like don't feel like playing anymore.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I mean, I know it's a genre, but it's like, it's also the truth.


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[Assistant] No one wants you to win, it's like, I feel like I have no friends, I feel like I'm the enemy.


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[Assistant] I dunno, maybe I'm just a big pussy, but I mean, I think what I'm saying is also true. I actually think it's both.


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[Assistant] It was, uh, I think MeleeFC's 3 or 6. We actually found Mew2King 3 in the morning. He was still holding onto his controller, sleeping with it, and he was actually pressing the R and L buttons like sleepwalking in his sleep, and we couldn't beli- we thought- we like poked him, he didn't wake up. It's not like he was faking it, he was- he was dead asleep, but he was


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[Assistant] Mango knows when 2King wants the best option. So he says, you just do stupid things that aren't, that shouldn't work basically. You approach him in weird, what he says is like, you know, you do weird stuff, he doesn't know what to do.


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[Assistant] He's not saying, okay, I'm gonna wait for, you know, half a second, then run up and grab you, then up throw you. No, he says, I'm gonna wait, and you're gonna do this, you're gonna roll, because I'm forcing my will on you.


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[Assistant] It's a very, it's a very typical West Coast player mentality. They're not really interested in dissecting the game so much as they are playing it and learning how to manipulate their opponent really well. Or if it means you can't just figure out how to abuse the game as hard as you can.


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[Assistant] Lecturing in Los Angeles, September 30th. They're gonna have to get a new speaker. That's all the personal effects.


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[Assistant] This must be the map he was talking about. It was in his wallet.


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[Assistant] Hey, something's been torn off the top of it. Maybe that's the way he got it. Maybe he had directions on it and he tore it off himself. Some fellows memorize directions so that nobody else can use their maps.


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[Assistant] It's a receipt stating I paid you $5,000 for 297 and a half pounds of gold ore. You ain't paid me yet. I will. You've got to sign it. It's the law.


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[Assistant] Uh, quick tease for today's show. Obviously we're on Deshaun Watson watch. Everybody's been following the news. We're on pins and needles. Could happen any minute now. My guess is it will happen by business end of today. Uh, Kelly Brownson is going to join the program. If you've heard the name,


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[Assistant] Here's where you've heard it. She is the Brown Chief of Staff.


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[Assistant] She is also the Brown's assistant wide receiver coach, but most recently she was the head coach of the women's team that just won


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[Assistant] She was the head coach of that outfit. She's going to join us to talk about her experience there. We're also going to get into some bronze issues with her. She's in the wide receiver room every day, so she's going to give us great insight.


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[Assistant] Also, the Browns week one opponent, everybody knows it's the Carolina Panthers. We talk so much about speculation. What's going to happen with, with Watson and all this nonsense.


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[Assistant] I thought just for a nice little respite of all of that talk, let's talk week one. Let's get into what the Panthers look like. How do they match up with the Browns?


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[Assistant] Jim Zocchi is their play-by-play man. He has broadcast every single Carolina Panthers game in their history. He's getting ready to start their 28th season. He's a Cleveland native, a huge Cleveland sports fan, and he's also a long-time friend of mine. We went to Bowling Green together, graduated together.


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[Assistant] Jim joins us coming up in the program. And of course, it's Wednesday, so Leroy Horde is here. Yes, sir. And that's all I need to say about Leroy. The preacher will be in the building. In the meantime,


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[Assistant] We gotta dive into the, oh, yesterday reports were running rampant. I was getting text after text after text from folks that have been deep in this for almost two years saying the end is here. And I was a camp yesterday.


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[Assistant] Yes, he would never settle to be out for the entire season. So, the first text I got yesterday said, end is near, big financial piece. Right. So, as you said, I think that was the thing that everybody was most kind of struck by when Z.L. Robinson issued her report and her decision, wait, no fine?


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[Assistant] And I think a lot of people had a lot of problems with that because he's now the highest paid.


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[Assistant] Guaranteed paid player in the NFL. And so I think the league didn't like the optics of the fact that he wasn't going to write a check.


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[Assistant] So a big financial component is my expectation. Also, I heard two different conflicting stories yesterday. One was the settlement is still in the works. The league would rather settle than get to Peter C. Harvey. The other thing I heard was Peter C. Harvey is either close


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[Assistant] or has his decision and he's giving the league and the NFLPA a buffer here before he makes his announcement or he hands his decision over the league. Which is true, I have no idea. It's possible neither are true because there have been so many reports throughout the length of this story that have been accurate and we've known that


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[Assistant] Uh, an eight game suspension and a pretty hefty fine as well. Yeah. Uh, one of the things that struck me yesterday about this was the NFL, we talked about how the NFL has always won these cases when the NFLPA sues in federal court. They've always won. The NFL has never lost.


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[Assistant] And I think that the expectation is that they would win this case too. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Just if you go on precedent and history and the fact that this is a Collectively Bargained Agreement.


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[Assistant] One of the things that I told someone yesterday that, that I hadn't really thought of before, but the NFL loses if this goes to court.


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[Assistant] And that's why they're now pushing for a settlement. I think they waited until the 11th hour. They never wanted this thing to go to court because if it does go to court,


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[Assistant] The first thing the NFLPA is going to do is they're going to ask for discovery in


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[Assistant] The Houston Texans piece of this whole thing.


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[Assistant] And an owner that have written, that have already written a check to 30 women. You've got a player that's written a check to 23 women. What's gonna happen to the team?


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[Assistant] If you're gonna suspend the player for a year and hit him with a huge fine, what are you, what's going on with the team? And that's where the league loses if it goes to court.


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[Assistant] It is. It's not like Robert Kraft versus Deshaun Watson. The Texans have already pretty much admitted that they're a part of this entire


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[Assistant] And that's not fair to the other 31 teams and the other 600. You are right about that.


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[Assistant] Tyvis, we had been talking all along about, is, it, it, are they talking? Who, who does it behoove to settle? And I had always maintained that it would be in Deshaun Watson's best interest to settle. But the league had, why would the league settle when ultimately


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[Assistant] They could have, if Roger Goodell didn't appoint Harvey as the designee, they could have decided this entire thing when he passed it off.


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[Assistant] That was the first time in my mind that I said this is really interesting in terms of the NFL suddenly being interested in a negotiated settlement. Because otherwise, if they weren't going to settle and they didn't want to do a negotiation,


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[Assistant] He never would have handed it off to Harvey, and ultimately he knew it would have ended up in


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[Assistant] And then you're going to have discovery on the Houston Texans side of this whole thing. You're going to also get other cases that the NFLPA wants to look at, how the Washington situation was handled, how the Robert Kraft situation was handled. And the last thing the league wants, they may win in court and the history tells us they would.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's been contentious. Yeah, but Adam, his question, correct me if I'm wrong, I think your question is, right now the relationship looks like it's irreparably damaged. Yeah, it's gone. I thought it was already before this. However, I think...


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[Assistant] That's, everybody's connecting the dots that the next thing that's coming is a year long suspension. If there's a stand down here.


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[Assistant] And Roger and the league agree to a negotiated settlement that's, let's just call it 10 games and 7 million dollars. Arbitrarily picking those numbers out of the sky. I've heard those from no one.


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[Assistant] Let's just say that's what it ends up being. At least in my view.


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[Assistant] If you're the league, you can go to the NFLPA and say, look,


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[Assistant] We didn't give him what we wanted. We gave a little. You gave a little.


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[Assistant] Now let's repair this relationship. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.


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[Assistant] It's like the general population bull. I really believe it is. I think you've got guys that are in the league that thinks what he did is reprehensible and he should be suspended a year. I think there's also guys that look at what he did and say, you know what? He didn't break any laws. He's made this right with the women financially. Let's move on. So at the end, it's just like general population.


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[Assistant] It's like the Bay of Pigs. You know, you've got these two superpowers that are ready to rip each other's faces off. And at the end of the day, they realize, let's just peacefully coexist. You know what? They've got a great thing going. In professional sports worldwide, they're probably second just to soccer.


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[Assistant] In terms of fan base and money generated, and I don't even know if they are second to soccer in money generated. They've got to be right there with them. I think you're right.


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[Assistant] They're not so emotional about it. They probably said, look man, we're talking dollar signs with a B in front of it. We're talking billions. You're willing to over a guy that got massages and may have been a little aggressive towards these women. You're willing to


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[Assistant] Our Bush, it's like, um, Gee Bush, it's like history. When you study history and civilizations, great civilizations.


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[Assistant] They almost always topple from within. And it was, it's kind of, it's odd to look at the NFL going face to face with its players association. And, you know, that's the term that we've used. This is the hill? This is it?


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[Assistant] Well, here's the thing though. We don't have double jeopardy.


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[Assistant] But he can easily, they can easily see another grand jury. Easily. So it's not like he's like,


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[Assistant] Bullet dodge. You don't know what's gonna happen down the, you don't know what evidence.


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[Assistant] He's got to walk through those holes to get to the other side. Right. Let's ask this guys, uhm, as we look at Aditi's tweet, and this is, this is what his text was from his apology interview that he gave to Aditi before Friday's first preseason game. Let's just sort of move it on by saying this. Before you do Jay, real quick.


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[Assistant] And that was not the case. Good, I'm glad to hear that. I think, first of all, I think Aditi did the best she could in that spot. Yes, absolutely.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I have some friends that know that she works with us in a role here and they were asking me about the moving parts behind the scenes and I said honestly?


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[Assistant] I've had zero conversations with a DD about it. I don't need to. This is what I told my friends that were, I don't want to say critical. They were just asking me like what I knew about the back story. Right. And here's what I said. I don't need to ever question a DD.


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[Assistant] And quite frankly I don't think anybody in this business needs to. There is nobody that I can think of that would be


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[Assistant] I think she did the exact right thing. My defense of Aditi, and she does not need defending, you're right. Anybody that wants to criticize Aditi, you're just looking for something. But what I was saying to the people that reached out to me was, look, she's working for the Browns, yes. The interview had to be done.


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[Assistant] He had to say something. I haven't talked to her and I will never ask her anything about it because I know that whatever was done is on the up and up. Because she wouldn't participate in anything that wasn't 100% journalistically, ethically sound. And I'm sure she stands by that and I'm glad she does. Quite frankly, I know there was a lot of people that said, well why didn't she hit him with a follow up?


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[Assistant] And I understand, as I was watching it, I said on Monday, they used that word, the word I used was, it was a little cringy for me.


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[Assistant] Only for her, because I know she wanted to add LeFarro. I know she did, but in that spot, you can't do it.


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[Assistant] So that's a great question. Here's the big issue that I have.


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[Assistant] Today, you can't avoid what I've always called state-run media. Well, so what's state-run media? So you remember the old Soviet Union and the TASS news agency. That was nothing more than the propaganda.


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[Assistant] But the reason that state-run media has a negative connotation to it is...


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[Assistant] It's, I, I, I love the NFL Network as a fan, as a viewer, but I also have a certain level of expectation of things I'm never going to hear on the NFL Network. That's right. You're never going to hear an NFL Network panel discussion about is the league doing the right thing by the players with CTE. You're not, they're not gonna go there. Right.


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[Assistant] The MLB network is not going to go to the area of, okay, Tetis is positive.


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[Assistant] Judge is gonna possibly hit 65 home runs this year. History has told us you guys don't do that.


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[Assistant] There is a level of expectation when you step into that role that you're gonna set your journalism hat aside.


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[Assistant] And I fanboyed. All I was doing was, are you kidding me? I get an opportunity and I knew it was only going to be for two years because I knew I was coming to channel three.


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[Assistant] And I knew the games were on channel five and I knew there was no way in hell I would be able to continue doing the games on channel five as a channel three employee. So for me it was like, this is like a two year kid in a candy store, one off. And you knew what you were getting into, although you wouldn't have done it. I did. So in some of the preseason games, we'd have John Dorsey sitting next to us. I'm not going to say to Dorsey during that interview,


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[Assistant] I need you to explain to fans who have a problem with this move why you would bring a guy like Kareem Hunt into this one. That's not gonna happen. So I had to take my journalism hat and put it to the side and fanboy out. That's what I did.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. And, and so now because there's team media. Right. With the Browns. Yes. There's league media, the NFL network. I'm gonna say this.


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[Assistant] They shut down projects, big projects that were looking into CTE. They shut it down at the league's behest. They basically were told enough.


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[Assistant] Enough. So I mean, and, and so let's, on the big scale level.


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[Assistant] CBS is in the NFL business. Fox Sports is in the NFL business.


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[Assistant] Who's not under their thumb, who is critical, they go nuts. They go nuts and they try to shut that down too. Alright, our first guest is on the line, so that means


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[Assistant] Okay, we'll figure it out. Callie, if you can hear us, we're not hearing you, so I don't know if that means your mic is muted or what. You may want to check that out. While she troubleshoots that, I want to quickly say, because I was reading up about this to try to see exactly, uhm, you know, how big a deal this is. It seems to me that worldwide it's becoming a much bigger deal. I think in 13,


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[Assistant] Coaching and really existing in a man's world, uh, previously an all-male world. What's the one thing that's been your biggest surprise takeaway so far?


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[Assistant] Kelly, when you look at where this organization is seated right now, I know a lot of the talk before the suspension was announced was, you know, this is a team that can compete for a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Is there a different feel for what this team can accomplish compared to what there was in the room last year and the year before?


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[Assistant] Well, Kelly, listen, con coaching the women's team I know that's a huge feather


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[Assistant] I think most of the assistant coaches have this mentality. You know how they say a team takes on the personality of their head coach. She is as poised and as buttoned up and she's kind of like Kevin Stefanski in that regard.


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[Assistant] Okay, that's the new piece. That last part is the new piece. We knew that they were actively discussing a negotiated settlement. What we didn't know is that the NFL, uhm, which now Mary Kay is reporting, is saying that there's no conversations between Peter C. Harvey and the league. Uh, McNuggets, are we gonna go right into Zouk or what are we gonna do?


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[Assistant] I wrestled in high school and I was, even as a junior in high school, I wrestled 98 pounds. But as a sophomore, I was weighing in at 90.


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[Assistant] Yeah, at BG I was probably like 5'9", 170 maybe. And then after my freshman year, I'm 6'1", 80 and you know.


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[Assistant] Take the quarterbacks out of the mix, because we don't know who's going to start for the Browns and we don't know who's going to start for the Panthers. I have, it's likely going to be Baker versus Jacoby, but.


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[Assistant] Matt, I know you're busy Sunday afternoons at one o'clock, so it's hard to watch everything, but I also know you're a huge Browns fan, so I don't think for a second that you're not keeping up with this, with this franchise.


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[Assistant] And I'm curious to know what your reaction was as a guy who's followed Cleveland. You obviously you knew what Baker was doing here. You followed all of his, his games closely, as closely as you could while calling Panther games.


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[Assistant] Uh, here in a couple of weeks, Jim Zocchi on the ultimate sports show. Thanks, Jim. Great job.


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[Assistant] He was doing Panther games. He was terrific at Bowling Green. I always knew this guy was going to do great things. Super happy for him. Great guy. And a huge Cleveland guy. Absolutely loves him.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, I apologize. And I can't believe you. Why? What'd he do? He agreed with it. You liked it. I liked you.


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[Assistant] And you know what's coming. Hey, listen, the topic of the day obviously is we're all on Watson watch. That sounds familiar, doesn't it?


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[Assistant] False, man. False, bro. I'm just going to say false because bull said true.


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[Assistant] They get the tying run, they didn't finish the deal. They couldn't get the ball out of the infield with the one out.


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[Assistant] The umpire changed his call. So the umpire originally rules that the ball which was foul tipped hit the ground before the catcher caught it.


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[Assistant] Then he does the right thing, he looks at the baseball, okay, there's dirt on it. Then he also brings the umpires together. They're the only guys that had the good view. When you're the home plate umpire, you're going off sound.


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[Assistant] Are there, do you hear two sounds? Do you hear the ball hit the bat and the ball hit the ground? The umpire said, I did hear the ball hit the ground.


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[Assistant] But it hit the ground with the catcher's glove underneath it. Right, right, right. And then, what I didn't like in the post-game pool answer from the umpire, the umpire actually said, well the catcher did say that he caught the ball.


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[Assistant] I'm with everything except for that. But by the way, this guy first of all had no... I mean, he made the right call. New York overturned him.


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[Assistant] Right on the, on the, on the play at home plate. Yes. But I just thought that things came off the rails after that. So.


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[Assistant] Terry comes out to argue after they changed the call. Terry was arguing, he thought that something else happened. Terry was arguing, and at that point he said, I didn't care, I was more,


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[Assistant] Terry Francona never gets ejected. Very, very rarely will he get ejected. Right. He knew he had to get ejected in that situation because the fans that are watching this game, it wasn't just the play in the first inning.


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[Assistant] I did not see definitive evidence that he was out. I just didn't.


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[Assistant] And Matt Underwood immediately said, I'll never understand this. And as I'm watching it, I actually told my son who's in from New York, I said, watch, they're going to get this wrong because those are the places they always


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[Assistant] What would it be, do you want to guess?


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[Assistant] It'll probably be 25. And you know what? I bet his teammates offered to kick in.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think though, the takeaway from that is...


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[Assistant] It's what they, what they do today. And my hope is that Terry getting thrown out


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[Assistant] Put a fire under the team had just comments after the game, put a fire under the team. Yeah. And also the players know that these were all three bad cards. Two of them were bad calls. I hope that they come out today, beat the pants off the tigers. They should and they need to win today. We're going to their game. They're a game up now in the central.


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[Assistant] I just think that Saber Metrics is a great tool for telling you what's already happened.


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[Assistant] It's a great way of seeing the past. I don't think it's they're good and necessarily the best way to predict what's going to happen in the future. So a guy hits 282 with 18 home runs and 59 RBI. He'll never do that again in his career.


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[Assistant] And in all likelihood, he'll never be close to all three of those metrics. And if you just go solely off numbers,


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[Assistant] I pulled some numbers off. Zach, please Zach, just because he pitched last night. And honestly, when I watch Zach, he's not a bad pitcher. His stuff looks the same this year to me as it did last year. But here's what numbers can screw you up. He's 2 and 11 this year.


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[Assistant] I know what they're not. I'm just showing you why numbers, you can't rely on numbers. Right. He's two and 11 this year. Before this year.


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[Assistant] I look at batting average against, but I really am most interested in whip. I want to know.


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[Assistant] I'm just looking at his stuff. When I watch a pitcher pitch, I really don't look at the box score and the numbers. I really don't.


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[Assistant] I like to predict after the first inning whether the pitcher is going to be around past the 6th.


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[Assistant] And I got to tell you, I've been doing this for about 15 years where I've been making that prediction. I'm about 90%.


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[Assistant] Because it's what the guy comes out of the bullpen with to start the game. What's his stuff? Is he locating? Is he changing speeds? Is he picking his spots? Is he missing his spots? If he is, this guy is going to make it through 6 innings.


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[Assistant] Now I know run support has a lot to do with that. I'm just using one example of numbers of how they can screw you up and paint the wrong picture. And that's why I'm hesitant to let numbers drive the majority of the decisions for managers.


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[Assistant] Tito has it perfect. He uses the numbers. They hip, they pass him the numbers every day. He looks at them. He consumes them. He uses them where they're appropriate and he discards them where he thinks they're garbage or where he has a gut.


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[Assistant] And I think unfortunately managers today when they're hired, they're hired primarily on their willingness to use numbers that the front office gives him during the game. And that's a big whiff because Tito is the best in the game right now and he does it right. That's my rant on numbers.


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[Assistant] And we're gonna give you our reaction to the Deshaun Watson decision, which is expected either today or tomorrow, depending on who you, who you listen to. In the meantime, we're on a 22 hour break. We'll see you tomorrow for the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. There they are. I'm telling you, all he did was shave the beard and turn it down to a goatee and put sunglasses on. They look like they related. Yeah.


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[Assistant] 50,000 francs. I'm an obstinate men-counter, often too obstinate for my own good. It's difficult to refuse such an offer. Then you'll take it? No.


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[Assistant] Yesterday you offered me 200,000 francs for this. I remember the conversation, sir. Mind you, I have been offered more. But because I want to dispose of it quickly, I've decided to let you have it.


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[Assistant] It is not early, madame. It is almost five o'clock. That'll be all. So?


[User] Please transcribe this text

[Assistant] Asked big difference, like just going from high school last year, then him already watching, just watching the movement.


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[Assistant] Like, I moved out my momma house, like maybe three days after I graduated high school.


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[Assistant] To a penthouse, million dollar penthouse. Just the lifestyle. So first, just getting, just getting used to it. But then, just working.