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[Assistant] Great stuff that Cam has done for the community and the team over the many years is the fact that


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[Assistant] He, he is just, he's been available.


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[Assistant] You know, think about that, the last couple of defense events that we drafted, those guys haven't been available. It's like, that's the most difficult thing that we can get from a defense event is just to be there like the majority of the time. Cam is always there, man.


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[Assistant] And whatever game you need to give the young Fauske as he calls him, cause he was talking to Tuck. Cause Tuck is a Notre Dame guy. Fauske took down Tuck's sack record at Notre Dame.


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[Assistant] So if we can, would you be happy to have Justin Tuck here as your...


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[Assistant] Would y'all be happy with a black and gold Justin Tuck? Could this be Isaiah Foskey? I mean, just saying, man.


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[Assistant] I don't know fam. You saying, people saying Swilling's the best? I don't know bro.


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[Assistant] Swilling was phenomenal. Ricky Jackson to me.


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[Assistant] Is maybe that's a question I need to throw up in the chat. Hold on. Let me put that up. Give me a second, fam.


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[Assistant] I gots to know. Let me put this question up to the family members. Uh, uh, hold on here. See if I can run this. This poll right quick. Let me put this poll up here. And the question is,


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[Assistant] About to start a whole nother show based on this. Let me tell you something.


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[Assistant] It's gotta be between Ricky. Pat Pat is good, but it's got to be to me between Ricky Jackson and Cam Jordan, right? Let me ask y'all that. Let me just throw that up there.


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[Assistant] Four of them. Y'all give me four of them. Who else y'all thinking? Out there. Who that man? Let me see. Cam Jordan. That, uh, that's Willan up there. That's Willan. Ricky Jackson. And who's the, who's the, who would be a fourth one fam?


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[Assistant] Who's the fourth player y'all would throw up there? Who's the Mount Rushmore of defensive players on the Saints in the all-time Saint list?


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[Assistant] Now we're talking about, like, I guess, I don't want to throw the, I guess we could throw a defensive back in there if you want to, but Cam Jordan, Pats Willen, Ricky Jackson, uhm,


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[Assistant] Sam, Sam Mills? Who's better? Sam Mills or Vaughn Jones? I say Sam Mills is better than Vaughn Jones. Will Smith is interesting. I don't know about BMAC, man. Bobby McCrae. Uh, Tracy Porter? No name.


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[Assistant] Uh, that was a one year one to Sammy Nights up there. Let's just talk about like, uh, I guess cause the rest of those guys, you got a defensive lineman, you got two linebackers with Pats Willen. So, uh, okay, Jonathan Vilma?


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[Assistant] Wayne Martin, how about, yes, Wayne Martin. Let me throw that up. That'll be it right there. That'll be for right now. We'll do another one. Cause that was my all time favorite Saint, uh, at all before, you know, when I was a young guy.


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[Assistant] That is, it's up there fam. So everybody got 150 plus up in the building.


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[Assistant] I want y'all to chime in, hit that poll up, man. I got it pinned to the chat and people already spiking it right now.


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[Assistant] Hit that damn poll, tell me what y'all think, man. We gonna get to the bottom of this.


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[Assistant] Is it Cam? Is it Pat? Is it Wayne? Is it Ricky Jackson?


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[Assistant] And talk about the results, uh, at the end of the show. Now let's move on. You look who we got up here family.


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[Assistant] We got the man, the legend, the myth, Mickey Loomis, man. Mickey Loomis is about to chime in and tell us about what he thought, what he thinking about right now. We got Mickey in the building family. You know, we love Mickey Loomis, man. Mickey's the greatest. He's the best.


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[Assistant] That's what Mickey got to say, man. About the roster and how he feeling about things. Mickey Loomis.


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[Assistant] Aight, old Mickey talking it up, man. Feeling pretty good, Mickey.


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[Assistant] Out there playing golf and talking it up, man. Talking up the team moves, man. So, shout out to Mickey. You gotta give the same.


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[Assistant] Do I talk to Mickey? Talk back to Mickey? Like Mickey? Nah, I think that'd be a little too much.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah, yeaah, yeaah. Alright, let's finish up this new old mickey, man. Here we go.


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[Assistant] Right, and that's the thing with Mickey Loomis, man, we talk about with Mickey.


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[Assistant] It's the fact that he, you know, he feels pretty good about the team and we always listening to Mickey over the many years of him talking about how in breaking down the team.


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[Assistant] But Mickey is feeling really confident about the Saints this season and listen.


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[Assistant] To be honest with you, and I keep saying this, like a lot of people, they can feel, you know, good about their team. You know, so.


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[Assistant] But the thing is, like I keep saying, and I'm not trying to throw water on anybody's squad, the Saints just letting everybody know.


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[Assistant] A lot of people keep squelching down on Carr and saying Carr's the middle of the pack guy, that he ain't gonna do nothing for the Saints. I'm saying to you, no, that's not true.


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[Assistant] That is not true and I keep telling people don't look at the fact, look at stats.


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[Assistant] You know, and I got something to be showing on, on Patreon for the family members, our YouTube membership and our Patreon champions. I got something to be.


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[Assistant] Representing on the TSC Q&A Live tomorrow.


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[Assistant] You know, for real, the guy has some good accomplishments in 10 years of being here in the NFL. So you have a guy like that on your team.


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[Assistant] Leadership and ability to get down the field, open up everything, man, that's what we were lacking last year.


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[Assistant] So we're not asking him to do something that he's not comfortable with. See, that's the thing that we got to get to. A lot of us are already there.


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[Assistant] But it's what the Saints offense couldn't do last year and what the guy naturally does.


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[Assistant] I mean, you might have a gunslinger mentality, but it don't show up in the statistics of what are you doing? Like every season, he's always way ahead of his touchdowns versus interceptions, even in his rookie year. And it's in the second year, during the sophomore year when you're expecting them to slump a bit.


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[Assistant] No. So I mean, he's been steady all the time. I think a lot of times people kick Derek Carr and David Carr mixed up.


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[Assistant] They start disrespecting the brother, the young brother because of the older brother and you can't do that, man. You know, you cannot do that. You can't do it. But anyway, let's finish up with Mickey, man.


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[Assistant] And that's, that's Denis Allen co-signed that. So there is no, uhm.


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[Assistant] Communication breakdown there, like they're both on the same page as far as Michael Thomas. Dennis Saladitz mentioned, uh, he told Rich Eisen, you know, this.


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[Assistant] And Mickey said it's not because of anything he's doing, he's working his tail off to get, get himself in shape.


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[Assistant] And the majority of that is in the second half of the game. Me, that's, that's the all time greatest and it just.


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[Assistant] Just the, the bees all knees when they come down to the rivalry between the Falcons and the Saints.


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[Assistant] It's like what Michael Thomas did to the Falcons in that, in that game was just astronomical. It was just, just ridiculous. But it's, the Saints have him on a one year deal.


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[Assistant] And they want to get them in there. So we have, if we play this right, we'll have enough depth, but we can be able to utilize it when we don't have to, you know, heavily rely upon them to kind of step pyramid them back up into that thing. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to my brother, Low.


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[Assistant] Says much love to you big Q and the rest of the Saints family. Shout out to my brother. Thank you for the super chat. That's the Superman chat. So shout out to my brother.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there you go. There you go. Yeah, see, he got up for them. But see, even if you get like found just saying.


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[Assistant] Several years now, since you did what you did, we thinkin' you kinda think you'll kinda move past that mark. But not in his head, and that's how champions think. Champions and great players never think.


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[Assistant] Very few of them have the discipline to step away from the game at their, at their peak. You know, and just say, I got nothing left to give on a show where I can.


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[Assistant] The great Muhammad Ali didn't do it. He went way past when he was supposed to do it.


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[Assistant] You know, Michael Jordan went way past what he was supposed to do it. You know?


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[Assistant] And we got several million examples out there of some of the greatest players at their perspective sport that stayed a little too long, you know, beyond their prime.


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[Assistant] Sometimes you gotta have the discipline to know to step away from that thing. But Michael's like one of them great players. You know, he's like, man, I'm gonna do what I gotta do.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna get show myself and then show you in the process. So shout out the low. Appreciate you, man.


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[Assistant] Let's finish listening to ol' Mickey. Here we go.


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[Assistant] Mickey loves, he talks about A.T. Perry, he talks about, uh, other players and, and, and that's the thing when you talk about a guy like A.T. Perry, and he did say that. That character issues.


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[Assistant] It's why A.T. Perry, who originally a lot of people thought was a third or fourth round wide receiver, slid all the way down.


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[Assistant] To where they had him at, and the Saints was able to grab at him in the sixth round. And listen.


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[Assistant] This, is this a, is, I don't wanna, I don't wanna heap this on em. But could this be?


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[Assistant] Man, that's such a lofty thing to say about A.T. Perry. Could it be a Marcus Colston? We know Colston went in the seventh round. Almost close to miss the irrelevant.


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[Assistant] But could A.T. Perry, who was looked at as a third or fourth round wide receiver,


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[Assistant] You know, could he be like, we talk about these wide receivers, like we talk about, uh,


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[Assistant] A guy like Chris Olavi and what he can mean or Michael Thomas, you know.


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[Assistant] But when it comes down to a guy that's all the way close to the back of the draft, like a six or seven round pick, look at him. Could A.T. Perry, that's a tall order into who that nation, but can A.T. Perry get up there to that level where


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[Assistant] He's already out of the box. Marcus Colston was never a speedy guy, but he was always sure-handed. That's the thing. His size and Marcus Colston knew how to utilize his size and catching the ball. Love Marcus Colston, man. He always represented for who that nation made all the difficult catches. He was fantastic. Love Marcus Colston, man.


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[Assistant] A.T. Perry, who's a 6'4", 200 pound wide receiver with speed, catches the difficult balls, did have 17 drops, uh, in his time in college. I think that was, uh, over the last year, the last year or two years. I think it was the last year.


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[Assistant] Uh, now over the last couple of years, or during the duration, I'm gonna have to check that stat. But he has 17 drops, so.


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[Assistant] And you watch the tape on AT Perry and what you see is a big guy that knows how to use his size.


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[Assistant] To take advantage of small defensive backs that he's going against. You know how to high point the ball.


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[Assistant] He can block. A lot of people say, can he block you? You have seen tape with him blocking.


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[Assistant] Also seeing tape with him putting a move on somebody, getting beyond them, catching the ball out front of him.


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[Assistant] You know, catching the ball away from his body, which shows that he's a good pass catcher.


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[Assistant] And the drops that A.T. Perry did accumulate in college, a lot of the drops was dropped. Not all of them, but a lot of them were like concentration drops. Like he would throw him the ball and he's trying to run.


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[Assistant] Without the ball, you know, we've, we've seen that before trying to move before you've gotten the ball, secured the ball. So, you know, it's interesting, but we'll see how it all looks. Let's finish up with Mickey, man.


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[Assistant] Shout out to Mickey, man, as Mickey gets in the wind there. Shout out to Mickey. Happy today, man. But listen, shout out to Mickey.


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[Assistant] And everything the saints brass have done up to this point in terms of the off season.


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[Assistant] In so far as helping the team improve, like I'm really, really happy about these moves now. Once again, I'm, I'm, I'm a tough cookie.


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[Assistant] A greater and a guy that then gave you an opportunity to show what you can do.


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[Assistant] Now, it's up to the Saints. In particular, Dennis Allen, the head coach of the team.


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[Assistant] To march this team, we still have some time before the starter training camp where the Saints will add extra pieces or extra players to this roster. But when you look at the Frasier moves the Saints have made.


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[Assistant] And you couple that with the draft and the undrafted area, and then what they've done at this point, the signing of James Washington today, you look at the Saints of St. Man, they're trying to, what they're attempting to do, they, we know that the defense has a lot of turnover.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's going on. We talked about this before, the new defensive line coach, we got a new coordinator and I talked about this on TSC Q&A.


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[Assistant] We got very affordable membership. We do film study on there. I do reaction streams. All that's on there.


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[Assistant] This is load, it was loading and below most stuff on there. So if I'm not on here, I'm on there, but was really interesting about this, the, the dynamic of what


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[Assistant] But there's a difference between what we seen last year.


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[Assistant] Defensive staff versus this year. We know these are Dennis's guys and the other guys were showing Peyton's guys. That's not what I'm alluding to. Even though that's going to play a factor in how.


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[Assistant] loosely and how comfortable you see Dennis Allen is cause he feels comfortable that he has his guys.


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[Assistant] But there was no actual person that was a coordinator and that is going to be big to Dennis Allen. Think about it. Last year you had Ryan Nilsen and you had Coach Chris Richard, the secondary coach.


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[Assistant] We can't decide who the coordinator going to be as a tie. Y'all both win. That's pretty much what happened last year. With those guys splitting and leaving.


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[Assistant] You actually got a person that occupies the position, even though it's a position in title.


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[Assistant] He is more of a defensive assistant, but nonetheless, he is affixed to that


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[Assistant] Title and it's not somebody that you took from somewhere else and put there to make a position. You get what I'm saying? Like you, you have using last year's model.


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[Assistant] You have Ryan Nilsson, who's the defensive line coach. Well, you have Todd Grantham there. All Todd Grantham do is he's going to coach the defensive line.


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[Assistant] You got Marcus Robertson, who's the safety guy. He's going to, I mean the secondary coach, he's going to coach the secondary.


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[Assistant] And you got Joe Woods, who was the former defensive coordinator for the Browns last year, who's now called the defensive coordinator. What is he going to do? He's going to assist Dennis Allen, who will be calling the plays on the defense. So he basically has a defensive assistant. It's an extra person, which means that


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[Assistant] You don't have to pull from both groups to make them, you know, make them do something together.


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[Assistant] That one person could do. So I'm saying, what I'm saying is, Dennis Allen was doing, trying to do, try to be a defensive coordinator.


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[Assistant] Last year and get the defense together call all the plays.


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[Assistant] And he had some interjection from guys. But how much interjection from guys you gonna get when them guys, when they gotta coach their position groups?


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[Assistant] You see what I'm saying? Joe Woods will act as an overseer for his entire staff and then oversee them and then report to Dennis Allen. You see what I'm saying? And then act as a defensive assistant to help Dennis Allen. What I'm saying is you gotta help there now.


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[Assistant] You don't have to do all that himself. You see what I'm saying? So all these other guys can focus on what they do best. Coach the defensive line, coach the secondary, and Joe Woods will be the guy that's next to Dennis Allen helping him out with the defense, just like Pete Carmichael is getting help from Coach Curry, who is the passing game coordinator. Big difference.


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[Assistant] Big difference from last year. Now would it make a difference? We'll see.


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[Assistant] We will, we've yet to see, but that's one of the things that I recognize. Like, okay, maybe that's why he feeling good about himself because he don't have to take over or take on the defense by itself. He got somebody who, and listen, if you don't know coach woods, man, feel free to do some research on coach woods and listen to his brain. It's a, it's plenty of tape online videos on YouTube.


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[Assistant] In other places where you can go and actually listen to him break down stuff.


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[Assistant] You know, he can actually go in there and break the, break the game down. You know what I'm saying? He can, and then what's really awesome about coach woods, he's really good at explaining the game.


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[Assistant] He's really patient in his approach. You can tell that he knows what he's talking about. Very educated. He has a good vocabulary. You know how to talk to people. You've seen different videos with him coaching people and talking to them in different ways.


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[Assistant] I like Joe Woods, man, based on what I was, it's the same research I did when I found, I went and looked up Cody Burns. I'm like, who kind of dude this is? Let me go and I started watching his training footage of Cody Burns, who's the current wide receiver coach for the Saints, you know.


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[Assistant] And Cody Byrd like, man, I like this dude, man. He's, you know, and then later on it came out from interviews from players like Jarvis Landry at the time, but that was given a lot of praise to Cody Byrd's, you know, giving them a lot of respect.


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[Assistant] And I was like, I knew he was gonna fit in cause I was watching his style and on his video and how he was talking to people. I was like, this dude gonna fit in really well. It's the same thing with Joe Woods. Joe Woods is a really smart dude and I have him.


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[Assistant] He's more like, in my approach, I think he's more of an assistant because Dennis Allen is still a dude that's going to be the defensive coordinator running the thing.


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[Assistant] You know, Joel would app operate with him to help him get it together.


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[Assistant] And if you got that going on, that's a supreme help. That's something extra that should be able to take the pressure off of him and put another perspective on the defense to help out there. So I like it. I like it. I think it's a, it's a smart move having Joe Woods there.


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[Assistant] And his intelligence level next to Dennis Allen with the defense. So I can, I can dig that.


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[Assistant] Alright, so anyway fam, let's dig into this depth chart right here.


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[Assistant] And take a look at it, and this is our Singh's unofficial depth chart as it stands, family. This is what it is currently, right?


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[Assistant] You can see all the fantastic talent that we've added here and our wide receiver room looking really deep. Chris Olavi, Michael Thomas, Rashid Shahid.


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[Assistant] A.T. Perry is there. You see there. You see Keith Kirkwood and Trey Quine Smith. It's going to be tough sledding, man.


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[Assistant] Tough sledding for guys. Now Keith Kirkwood in his tent prior to him coming back from Carolina, he was a solid wide receiver for us. He went to Carolina and he just.


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[Assistant] You know, he just really didn't look good last she was dropping the ball, looked out of place of sorts and it's going to be tough sledding for those guys.


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[Assistant] To make the team. Quine Baker is the seven round draft pick the Saints had a couple of seasons ago. Had that PED issue. The Saints brought him back.


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[Assistant] Because if you remember watching tape on Quine, actually, did I say Alexander? I mean, Quine Baker. As I'm calling it Quine Alexander to come back to the team.


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[Assistant] Quan Baker, the why I receive a seven round draft pick out of the University of South Alabama. Now, if you go back and watch the tape on him, I was really excited about him because he's a six foot one dude with a lot of speed, runs really crisp routes, has a lot of potential.


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[Assistant] So, you know, he gonna have his work to do. Kirk Merritt is another one of our.


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[Assistant] Undraft the gems, he could play wide receiver or running back for you, even help out in the kick return game. If you need a kick return guy, I would kind of say a guy, even though we looking at, uh, you know, a player further down on the list to be a guy that you look at, but if you want to make the team and you're a guy this far back, probably you're going to have to try to play special teams here.


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[Assistant] Uh, free agency, you know, he was former Falcon and Raider guy that's familiar with our quarterback.


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[Assistant] And then of course you go back here, you see James Washington, the veteran wide receiver signed today to bring some competition to the room. Very excited about that. And two really phenomenal undrafted guys with all the potential in the world and Malik Flowers.


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[Assistant] Who is a return specialist, the Saints done did it again. They done found another dude. You kind of step in there and make things pop for him, you know?


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[Assistant] That is just a massive human. He's six, five, 200 sub mile pounds, 40, 40 speed. Shaq Davis is going to be the guy that a lot of people are paying attention to.


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[Assistant] When the time comes, how far does Shaq Davis make it up the list? He has size, he has speed. Can he make it work? Can he make it work?


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[Assistant] And that's who I'm going to be paying attention to really. So fam, I'm really excited about several of these players undrafted.


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[Assistant] You look at the offensive line we talked about last year. We need to help.


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[Assistant] And offensive line behind him because we were dealing with a lot of injuries, man, a lot of Trevor Pinnon, Andrews Pete McCoy, uh, you know, these guys, a lot of these guys miss times.


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[Assistant] You know, with injuries, so the Saints at Kelvin Throckmorton, who really didn't play that well, they brought him back on the deal.


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[Assistant] And so the Saints was like, you know what, let's step our game up here. Cause they had Kelvin Throckmorton, Landon Young wasn't really showing them anything. James Hurst is our swing guy. I love James Hurst more inside than outside, but love what he brings to the team.


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[Assistant] The Saints drafted Nick Seldiveri and brought him in here, said they gonna play him at guard. Love that move. Storm Norton was a quiet signing. The Saints happy he could play either tackle position, the big veteran out of San Diego or San Diego from the Chargers.


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[Assistant] And he, they have done a really solid job of adding Nick Seldivari and Storm Norton to the team. And plus you look at other guys they've brung like Mark Evans out of Arkansas, Pine Bluff. He's another guy. That's another one of the undrafted guys we watching out for. Like I'm going to put a show together.


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[Assistant] We're going to talk about some of the diamonds that we watching out for that could have a potential to climb up.


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[Assistant] And make this team, and I believe he's one of those guys.


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[Assistant] Then you move on to the tight end room and talk about the tight ends. And the Saints, that was one of the positions that a lot of family members felt like, hey Q, we need to do something there.


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[Assistant] Well listen, I say family is something about Foster Morrow because he's hanging around and we haven't heard nothing from him then wham bam thank you ma'am.


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[Assistant] So you have him there and he's more of a balanced tight end, very, you know, he's a young veteran tight end, familiar with the quarterback in his days with the Raiders. We still have Jawan Johnson there. It was just phenomenal. Taysom Hill is in the room. We have one of the most complex and versatile tight end groups in the NFL. Let me tell you something straight up.


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[Assistant] Then we have some good talent too, like Lucas Kroll is a guy. How far does Lucas Kroll, the former?


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[Assistant] You know, so Lucas Crawl is something else too. Then of course the quarterback position goes without saying. Derek Carr does what the Saints offense need to win. He really does get the ball downfield very well and give him leadership. You know, and that's another fantastic thing that


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[Assistant] You know, he doesn't have to do too much. I think our quarterbacks are probably, you know, some of the best in the game. You got a solid Jameis Winston who's going to be healthy playing behind card if injury occurs or if he struggles. You know, you got Jameis sitting there and Jake Hayner.


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[Assistant] Has potential. Liked how you look in his first rookie mini camp, but it's still a lot of time to kind of evaluate them. And then the running back position, what can I tell you? Elvin Kamara facing this Las Vegas stuff.


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[Assistant] And probably, and this is probably going on as one of the best signings of the Saints season. We talk about Jamal Williams. I can't overemphasize the signing of Jamal Williams.


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[Assistant] I can't overemphasize the signing of Jamal Williams onto the team, fam.


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[Assistant] We kind of had a busy off season and we're really not kind of focusing because there's a lot going on. But when it's all, when it's over, the season is over, Jamal Williams will be a big part of the success for the Saints. You added him with Kamara.


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[Assistant] And that is a phenomenal tandem. You don't understand how good or maybe.


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[Assistant] A lot of the hoodats understand how good that Kamara and Jamal Williams could be together. And then until Jamal, and we'll see what Elvin Kamara makes it through.


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[Assistant] But this guy had 17 touchdowns last year, led the NFL and he's your second running back? Are you kidding me?


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[Assistant] Everything he does, catch out the backfield, block for you if you need him to block. You know, run, you know, he does it all.


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[Assistant] He does it all. The Detroit Lions wasn't supposed to let this guy go. This dude is at the top of his game and I don't even know if we've seen the very best of him. He's still got a lot to go.


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[Assistant] So you get Elvin Kamara and Jamal Williams together and then couple that with the third round pick, Kendra Miller out of TCU who had 1600 yards rushing with what? How many touchdowns he had? Didn't he have 17 touchdowns last year too?


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[Assistant] Man, let me tell you something, the Saints running back room, three headed monster running back room, man, listen.


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[Assistant] Dennis Allen said that he wanted to run the ball. My goodness, he wasn't lying. Was he lying? Was he lying?


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[Assistant] Alright, so anyway, and then behind the family, we talk about, uh, Sherrodrick Thompson, and I invite you guys to go and look at, uh, Sherrodrick Thompson's tape. You want to talk, and we talked, we just did the scouting report on Ellis Merriweather, right?


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[Assistant] We did that. Man, lemme, I'mma do some film work on both these new guys Saints picked up on our Patreon channel.


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[Assistant] But Sherrodrick Thompson Jr. Let me tell you something. This guy, you got to watch the tape. You've got to watch the tape on Sherrodrick Thompson.


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[Assistant] The guy, oh my goodness, when the saints get undrafted running backs, y'all know into who that nation, y'all gotta stand up and take notice of our undrafted running backs. Cause the saints always seem to find these guys innocent. You can see it's a template.


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[Assistant] of what Dennis Allen is doing because, you know, you look at Elvin Kamar, everybody is not Elvin, you know, Elvin Kamar, but you see Jamal Williams does the speed and power game.


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[Assistant] Kendre Miller has speed and power, but mostly these are power guys that run very powerfully, use stiff arms and power games. Sherrodrick Thompson's another dude. Not just straight power, but this dude has a little wiggle to him, but these are strong, bullish, north-south runners.


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[Assistant] That if something happened and we need these guys to move into the fold, they will move in. So you can look at guys like Dwayne Washington.


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[Assistant] You can look at guys like Trey Kwan, Smith and all these guys that been on the team for a while and we had.


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[Assistant] Dwayne Washington is the third running back for years and he could barely touch the field because the saints didn't believe in him as a running back. That shit's over with, man. That's a done-dada. So the only thing else that I'm looking for the saints to do.


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[Assistant] Is there, is, you know, can we get a fullback? Cause I know that was, printers was more of a guy for Sean Payton system.


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[Assistant] Can we find a more versatile fullback or do we have somebody that can come in and challenge a apprentice for that fullback position? You know, is that possible? Or perhaps, you know, we'll see.


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[Assistant] But anyway, going over to the defense, we know what we got on the defensive side. We talk about the defense all the time. Saints defense got a lot of turnover, coaching staff and players. So that's why we're saying the onus will be on the Saints to


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[Assistant] Take care of business from an offensive standpoint because the defense, you know, a lot is going on there.


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[Assistant] So it's, it's got to, it's got to be an office. So that's why you see a lot of the resources.


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[Assistant] Going to the offense, the offense is how they have to get on code again. They've got to get back to where they were.


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[Assistant] In so far as being a top 10, top 15 unit, they've got to get back there. They've got to get back there because I don't think our defense will be the unit that leads us with all this turnover. I mean, how could they? You got three new starters on the defensive line. They have to, we have to figure that thing out.


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[Assistant] The interior defensive line still needs rotational guys, and you can see right here, you see, uh, all the additions of Sonder, Sheppard, Breesey, added the resigning of Malcolm Roach, and then you hear,


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[Assistant] The, the signing of all these undrafted interior defensive linemen.


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[Assistant] We don't know what these guys are going to do. Perhaps one of these guys could be the new shy Tuttle. We don't know.


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[Assistant] But perhaps Tanu passing Yos in the mix as the interior defensive tackle? Maybe not.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, hopefully he is more defensive tackle than in.


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[Assistant] But the Saints have a lot of ends. Granderson, Peyton Turner, Isaiah Foskey. Do they add somebody else? I still say if I'm the Saints, I need a veteran defensive tackle, a nose tackle.


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[Assistant] You get you a big veteran nose tackle and you can input them in that mix.


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[Assistant] And see how it goes, man. A veteran nose tackle. We can use that.


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[Assistant] We can use, and I talked about Caden, uh, uh, a guy that replaces Caden Ellis. Could it be Quan Alexander? Do anybody out there believe in Zach Bowen?


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[Assistant] Do anybody believe in Zach Bourne? Could Zach Bourne become Kate Nellis? Could we have a...


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[Assistant] In Kate Nellis type year with Mr. Zach Bowen. Do anybody believe in that?


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[Assistant] Is there any, is there any Zach Bourne believers out there? I know that Zach Bourne's been here for a long time. He ain't give you a lot to believe in, but are there any people out there that got something positive to say about Zach Bourne? Cause y'all let me know. Let me know. Let me know. Because outside of the Mario Davis,


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[Assistant] And an often ended Pete Werner, you might see Zack Bond unless the Saints addressed the linebacker position.


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[Assistant] Outside of him, we got a lot of guys, special teams linebacker Andrew Dowell.


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[Assistant] Who played pretty decently for us and then he kinda teetered off.


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[Assistant] You got Demarco Jackson, the fifth round draft pick last year from Appalachian State. Love his game. Seeing what he can bring, but outside of that, it's mostly.


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[Assistant] Uh, people, we don't really know what they're gonna bring to the table. We know Nephi Sewell played well, special teams wise, but these are still young players that have potential.


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[Assistant] But we don't know exactly what they're going to bring to the table. I know, uh, Nick Anderson and Anthony Orgi, these guys are young athletic.


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[Assistant] You know, behind, uh, Caden Ellis or somebody that could kind of sturdy up the room a bit. And it makes sense to get Kwan Alexander to me because he'll work cheap and he's familiar with your system.


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[Assistant] The secondary room is the deepest room on the team to me. Outside of what could be the wide receivers now with the addition of James Washington, but guess it's a race for the money.


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[Assistant] I got asked who that nation was the deepest room on the team. For a while, it was a secondary room. You know, it was a secondary group, deepest on the team because of all of the talent that we have there. You know, they added.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, Lonnie Johnson, you could play corner and safety. They had a Jonathan Abram to knock your head off, to bring ferocity behind Marcus May and Tyron Matthew.


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[Assistant] Lattie Daddy there with uh, Paulson the Deebo, Alontay Taylor's in the mix. You know, and then behind those guys...


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[Assistant] You got some talented players, special teams, guys that you go. Amadi, JT, great.


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[Assistant] Smoke Monday, what did Smoke Monday become? Smoke Monday got a long way to climb and the Saints added Adrian Fry as a special teams guy with Troy pride there. So they have a very deep rump.


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[Assistant] So, you don't need to look at PJ Williams no more. So, the Saints kind of getting these old guys out of the way, the PJs, the Trey Quine Smiths, and the Dwayne Washingtons, and all those guys.


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[Assistant] If you can't contribute to your position group where you come from.


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[Assistant] On special teams, if you're running back and you can't be counted on to run the ball, if we have issues, they're going to get you up out of here.


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[Assistant] It happened several times. It happened with Justin Hardy. It happened with Chris Banjo. The Saints don't just want a person that could just be good in special teams. You have to play.


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[Assistant] At least decently the position that you come from, whether there's a safety or wide receiver running back wherever it is, you know.


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[Assistant] As injuries happen, you might be called upon to step into that role.


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[Assistant] And then of course we go to the special teams which have been very unspecial these last couple of years. Will Lutz have all the competition in the world? The two guys kicking against him?


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[Assistant] Kind of, and the saints have all of his medicals and I'm sitting up here saying, damn, they got two guys competing with them. You know?


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[Assistant] Will Lutz got to show him something, man. Will Lutz got to get back to where he was, man, this shit. He would be a big part of the success.


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[Assistant] So the Saints going forward, he has to get back up there again. Last year, 74% accuracy, kick and field goals. It ain't going to cut it. It'll get you competed against.


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[Assistant] And ultimately these guys out kick you because anything can happen in the pros. They'll run your ass out of here. Lickety split. And of course the punting situation, we know that Lou Headley, that, uh, very, uh, you know, uh, interesting punter that they brought in here. Really interesting punter.


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[Assistant] But Blake Gilligan gonna punt him, kick him cleanin' up outta here, man. So Blake Gilligan ain't goin' nowhere. And then of course the kick return game, we know.


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[Assistant] All too well, Malik Flowers is a guy in the room. Hopefully Malik Flowers is somebody else to take the kick return or the kick return specialist.


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[Assistant] Uh, position, uh, you know, get Rashid Shahid's name off of there. So because we want Rashid Shahid to pay attention to his wide receiver, three duties. We need him, we need him in offense. So that's a lot.


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[Assistant] Alright, so, alright, oh yeaah, I heard about the equivators that he met with the Steelers today, so, you know, we'll see.


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[Assistant] Okay, no, no, they got him up here. I don't think he went back to school. I want to say he's still here. I'll check on it though.


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[Assistant] Alright, so anyway, with that being said fam, let's go and do a brief recap right here. With the fam we played, we heard from, uh,


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[Assistant] From my boy, Cam Jordan, dropping some signs about the moves the Saints have made and stuff. Good to always hear from Cam.


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[Assistant] As he broke down the soft process, you can see a very happy Mickey. Mickey, what kind of hat you got on, man?


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[Assistant] Alright, so anyway, let's go. And then of course the signing of James Washington. Very solid deal by the Saints. Getting him on a one year deal to help run Trey Quine Smith out of here.


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[Assistant] Very solid signing for the Saints. I like this signing a lot. Like it a lot. So good having him to come back here.


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[Assistant] And also the Saints addition of, uh, they added some more players to the team, Adrian Fry, and also Ellis Merriweather running back out of UMass, a north-south runner with power, and that's Dennis Allen telling you, want to be a power team.


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[Assistant] And then of course the Saints did add defensive tackle from the XFL. Uh, what's his name again? Mr. Jack Heflin. So they bring in big Jack, Jack Heflin from the XFL.


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[Assistant] With that being said, shout out to the fam, man. Appreciate y'all being in the building on this one as well. Yeah, that was, uh, yeah, that was yesterday. I won't say they, they, they, they.


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[Assistant] I'm going to check out and see what else they got going. Cause I know this thing still have a few more.


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[Assistant] Uh, physician groups that they said that they're going to be looking at adding to the team. So.


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[Assistant] It's pretty cool, man, to see how they operate, man. I just, I just love what they're doing. I'm going to be honest with your family. I love what they are doing. It's just a matter of getting it all together and making it pop for the upcoming season. So that's what it's all about to me. All right. So anyway,


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[Assistant] But anyway, let's go over the, uh, let's talk about the, the, uh, the poll right here, family. So we had 122 votes. If you didn't have an opportunity yet to vote on the poll, feel free to do so right now. I'm about to close the poll.


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[Assistant] And about, uh, at, uh, 7.35. So you have, uh, my time, central time.


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[Assistant] You'll have an opportunity to vote right now as a two-man race.


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[Assistant] The poll is who is the greatest Saints defensive player of all time? Now I've got four people up there because that's about as many I could put in there.


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[Assistant] But it's Cam Jordan, Pat Swillen, Wayne Martin, and Ricky Jackson, the Hall of Famer. Right now it's a two man race right now between Cam and Ricky Jackson right now. So.


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[Assistant] Feel free to vote on it and I'ma close it at 7.35. But yeaah, that's an interesting one right there to see. You know exactly who you guys think it would be.


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[Assistant] Alright, Tedra says, I want to say this now. This will be Taysom's last season. Quietly team have been getting good people to do everything Taysom does. Okay. So he will not be needed next year. Sorry.


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[Assistant] To say that. He'd be headed towards Sean Payne. Nah, Tetris. You know what? That is interesting though. But you know, when you have a guy like Taysom Hill, man. And I said that like a couple years ago. I was like, okay.


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[Assistant] If the Saints need to, like, cause Taysom was starting playing wide receiver, he was taking reps from Trey Quine Smith and the others. I was like, if anybody might've contributed indirectly to the lack of development of a Trey Quine Smith.


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[Assistant] It is Taysom Hill because a lot of the game reps at that time, Taysom Hill was taking Tre'Quan Smith reps. You know, he was, he was.


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[Assistant] And he was so explosive and dynamic that Sean Payton relied on him a lot. Now.


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[Assistant] With that being said, you are absolutely right. If you look at the Saints wide receiver room,


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[Assistant] And what they were to do is not just the wide receiver run, but just the offense totally. You got all these real fantastic players at every level.


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[Assistant] We talking about veterans, we talk about James Washington is not a slouch. James Washington can hurt you. He can hurt you. He's one of them dudes that can get down field and hurt you. He can catch the ball really well and he has speed.


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[Assistant] He got talent. The thing about Washington is that he's had some injury concerns. He's been banged up, but in a rotation, he can help. So, and then there's also other players there.


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[Assistant] They have potential that can show up too. A.T. Perry, Shaq Davis, Malik Flowers. So you have big physical guys with athleticism that are very talented.


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[Assistant] So it's no longer like a centered point where I guess this all depends on where P. Carmichael.


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[Assistant] Where does his imagination have Taysom Hill fitting in this whole, whole matrix of great talent we have? Like Jamal Williams is here. Do you see Taysom Hill taking, him taking Jamal Williams off the field if you got Kamara and Jamal Williams to put Taysom Hill in there?


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[Assistant] Perhaps to put Taysom Hill at fullback. We've seen Taysom play fullback. Could they utilize him there? Taysom could be used all over the field.


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[Assistant] All over the field, wherever you need them to. That's the definition of a utility player. Wherever you need them at.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, you can see so much talent at every skill position. Running back, wide receiver, and even you had


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[Assistant] Where Taysom is at the tight end position when you add Foster and you got Jill and, I mean, Juwan Johnson there.


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[Assistant] Tastin' them in a mix, the Saints could pretty much do whatever they wanna do with Tastin' Hill. Then you add...


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[Assistant] A quarterback that can throw the ball down the field, field and card. So it kind of takes them away from that role. So you might have a, you got a point on that, Tetra. It'll be interesting to see exactly how it looks, but it's going to be awesome, man.


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[Assistant] All right. Shout out to you, Colorado. Good to see you fam. Eugene says, he says, uh, hold on. I'm sorry. I lost your comment, bro. I was about to pop it on there. It popped off of there. I'm sorry.


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[Assistant] Freaking passion when my dirty birds play taste. Oh yeah, he kills me.


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[Assistant] Hey Dre, hey, uh, yeaah, take some kills though. He, remember the year, family was a couple years ago.


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[Assistant] It was the same year the Denver Broncos quarterbacks all was sick and they had to go in with the running backyard. Remember that? It was in a three game stretch.


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[Assistant] That Taysom Hill was out well, what was it? They played.


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[Assistant] The, the Falcons, one game, then they played Denver, then they went back to the, they played the Falcons again. And Taysen killed the Falcons there.


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[Assistant] He always kills the falcons. They have great difficulties stopping Taysom Hill, man. Taysom gets up to play them falcons, let me tell you, man. He gets up to play them falcons. Alright, so anyway, let me go back to the poll right here, fam. We going in the poll.


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[Assistant] And see where it is, and let's see where, uh, the, the, the, let's see where the poll go along here.


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[Assistant] Alright, so that, the, who's the greatest Saints defensive player of all time? The poll is over where it had 140 plus votes and Cam Jordan.


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[Assistant] Wins the poll 45% to Ricky Jackson's 44%. So there you go to who that nation has spoken.


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[Assistant] Very close. But like I said, people will say Ricky Jackson now, but factor in the fact that Cam then took Ricky's sack record. He owns the same sack record. He took it down. He said, well cue Ricky Jackson. You know, he won a Super Bowl, so did Cam.


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[Assistant] So you got Cam got a Super Bowl, Ricky got one, Cam got one. Cam has Ricky's uh, sack record. And many of his statistics is Cam's.


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[Assistant] You know, the only thing Ricky has over Cam is he's a Hall of Famer. You don't think when Cam's time is over with, he won't become a Hall of Famer? Cam's going to that hall, bro. And I ain't talking about the Saints Hall of Famer. I'm talking about...


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[Assistant] The, the, the big hall of fame, the one in Canton, he going to that hall, bro. Ain't no doubt about it. So cam one.


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[Assistant] A lot of my old school family members ain't gonna be feelin' that. Ain't gonna be feelin' that. Oh, he did nap? Hold on here. Hold on here. Cam didn't get that bowl, man? Hold on here. Hold on here. I'm trippin'. Hold on here. Hold on here.


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[Assistant] Oh, he was a couple seasons late on it. Hold on. Y'all, y'all, Sarah was right. He don't have it. He don't have it. He don't have it. Damn. He was a couple years late. That's right. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Sure did. Yeah. He came in in 2011.


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[Assistant] Yup, he is, he just missed it. So yea, Ricky got him on that. I'm about to give Cam a soup. Y'all are right. Cam don't have that bowl. Ricky got him on the super bowl. Cam got him on that. But still, let me.


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[Assistant] With that still being said, I stand corrected. Thank you, tragic sir. I stand corrected. With that still being said, is, is it still Cam Jordan is the best player there? Is it, is it, is he still a guy? Alright, y'all tell me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm trippin' while I'm sittin' down. Damn, Darrell, bro, why you gotta talk like that, bro? You know, I stand corrected, my brother. I stand corrected.


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[Assistant] Oh, I'm trippin' while I'm sittin' down. Damn, brother. I...


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[Assistant] Alright, so a devil says, I give Ricky the slight edge, but if Cam keep playing like this, it's going to be him. Alright. Yeah, I don't, but listen.


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[Assistant] So it's still Ricky in y'all minds, even though Cam owns Ricky's records.


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[Assistant] And even though Cam don't have the Super Bowl with the Saints, neither does Ricky Jackson. Ricky went to San Francisco to get it.


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[Assistant] So we gonna count the San Francisco Super Bowl that he left the Saints to go and get? We, we talking about all time greatest Saint player, right? You know?


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[Assistant] All time greatest saint. Okay, Cam don't have his, right?


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[Assistant] But Ricky had to go to San Fran to get his. That ain't nothing good for us. That ain't good for us.


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[Assistant] He had to go to San Francisco to get that Super Bowl. St. St. Won't play him. They won't pay him by the way. He wanted to stay. St. St. Won't pay him. 49ers put together a Super Bowl team that was headed to Barlow.


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[Assistant] And uh, policy, uh, Carmen policy put that team together.


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[Assistant] They paid, they, they basically bought a Super Bowl that year. They had a Hall of Fame All-Star Pro Bowl level team out there. Uh, I mean, they had everybody on that damn team. Ricky was on Ricky Jackson and who else they had on there? Tim McDonald.


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[Assistant] They had everybody on that team, man. They basically bought a Super Bowl that year, that year when Ricky Jackson went out there with them. They had everybody on that damn team.


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[Assistant] But even though he goes out there, you still gonna say it's Ricky Jackson? Cam got all the Ricky records. He took down the biggest record, which was the sack record.


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[Assistant] And even though Cam don't have a Super Bowl, this Ricky don't have one for the Saints. He got that for the Niners.


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[Assistant] So can we still count his, his 49er Super Bowl as a Saint? He's the greatest Saint of all time. Do we count his 49er stats for the Saints? I don't think so. I, I don't know. I'm, I'm, it's, it's a close one, but anytime a guy take another guy's records down, like what Cam did, I mean, she, I don't know. I don't know. A lot of my old school people's,


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[Assistant] It's gonna be like, nah, Q, we gonna have to rock with, we can't rock with him. Rick is, uh, Pelig is known to shout out to his Rick Jackson, Pumoke.


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[Assistant] You might be right on that. Yeah, you might, you might have something on that. Yeah, we counting that. You know what? All right.


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[Assistant] Or was he ultimately causing fumbles? Okay. Does that still keep him ahead of him? No, I don't know. Y'all tell me. You know?


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[Assistant] That's a great question though, man. That's a good question. Maybe we do like a side by side of those two great players, man. You know, we're going to have to kind of add.


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[Assistant] Like I said, he got his, he took his stuff down. He got all of his stuff, man. He took all of his, he took all of Ricky Jackson's stuff down, man.


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[Assistant] You know, so I don't know, man. We got to, we got to approach that at another, at another time. All right, Devin says, uh,


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[Assistant] He says, uh, LT really liked some of the hype on Ricky because he was a real deal, also off the white stuff like LT. Yeah, LT, yeah, you want to talk about two, man, Lawrence Taylor, man. Lawrence Taylor.


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[Assistant] And Ricky Jackson, that was our, that was our guy. That was our Lawrence Taylor, Ricky Jackson. That was our Lawrence Taylor, Ricky Jackson. He just didn't get all of the press.


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[Assistant] That LT guy, obviously because LT was playing for the Giants, the Giants won a couple of Super Bowls there, they won a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Uh, with, uh, LT got him there and he went into the immediate capital of the country. So yeah, that's, uh, that says a lot, man.


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[Assistant] Alright, brother, uh, Donovan, what's up, bro? Says, who remember when Ricky got in a car accident and played? Yeah, my, he had, yeah, yeah, with his, he played with his wire, his mouth shut. He had that, he put that, that dog, Vader, um,


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[Assistant] Face mask on, you couldn't see nothing but his eyes.


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[Assistant] And his whole face was covered, and even when he healed up, he kept running. I remember that. Oh yeaah. Oka-palli, there he is. I knew he was around here somewhere.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, Eugene says Ricky was all time lead in forced fumbles when he retired LT was second all time. So that's a good one on LT. Paul says, uh, Charles Mann, Ken Norton, Alfred Williams was one of the 94, yeah, team just, yeah, great one season. That's the way they bought that Super Bowl, bro. They bought the hell out of that Super Bowl that year. That was a hell of a team, man. And they just ran over people.


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[Assistant] Alright, tragic saying this, a swilling was actually a defense. He was. He was indeed. He was indeed. But like the poll says, bro, I had a swilling up there. I had a swilling up there on the pole, man. I had him on the pole.


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[Assistant] And only 9% of the people voted for him. Who's the greatest defensive player?


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[Assistant] Of all time for the Saints, the greatest defensive player of all time. I put four people up there. Cam, Ricky, Pat, and Wayne Martin, right? Wayne, no actually, yea I put Pat up there. And, Pat's only got 9% of the vote. Wayne Martin got zero.


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[Assistant] Uh, the vote and you can understand that it'd be between Cam and Ricky. So at the end of the day, it is what it is, right? Is that the end of the day it is?


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[Assistant] Alright, so anyway, with that being said, we're going to hold that for another debate, man, because that's a great question, man, to get everybody's minds working.


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[Assistant] About who's the greatest Saint defensive player of all time. You kind of look at the offense. We kind of know who the greatest offensive player of all time is. It's kind of, we already know what that one is, but the defensive.


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[Assistant] Player of all time with Cam catching all this and doing all this extra stuff and still playing. You know, he can add to what he doing here.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I still see Cam Jordan as, he's up there, man.


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[Assistant] Anytime you can put Ricky Jackson and Cam Jordan together in Grey Light, that's like, that's a whole nother level. But that's something we gonna have to go over at another show, so.


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[Assistant] And, uh, all that kind of gravy stuff. So with that being said, I'm gonna get out on that. Uncle Paulie throwing this one at me. Say, hey Q, uh, hey Q, if Will Smith had lived, would, he says, it would be Ricky Jackson, Will Smith, Cam Jordan, Pat's Willing, Sam Mills, and LaRoy Glover. That would be the greatest.


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[Assistant] If Will Smith lived, you'd think it'd be Ricky Jackson, then Will Smith.


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[Assistant] As you can hear or see, uh, this one's inspired by the great Bob Rose's article, you know, that he.


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[Assistant] We spoke about, so this is basically the, who's the, which saint is under our saints period who are under the most pressure.


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[Assistant] In 2020 and 23, and I thought this was a fantastic article by Bob. Give him a shout out.


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[Assistant] You know, honorary great st. Thank tank family member, but this is a really good article by Bob and it speaks to some of the stuff that we really want to see or the pressure period. Cause there is pressure.


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[Assistant] You know, when you add Derek Carr, this is Dennis Allen's quarterback. He drafted him in, you know, with the Raiders, obviously. Uh, the offense, a lot of money has been spent on the offense. A lot of draft capital has been committed to the offense.


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[Assistant] The saints have basically kept the offensive line together.


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[Assistant] As opposed to break them up and bring in veterans to kind of take their place.


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[Assistant] Have more continuity there on the offensive line. I applaud that. I'm just going to keep it real with you. I applaud that. I applaud that. Thank you.


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[Assistant] I applaud that big time. I'm not going to lie to you, fam. I applaud that big time.


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[Assistant] I applaud that big time. I think that was fantastic that the Saints did that.


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[Assistant] And they spent some capital on the defense as well, but I think the Saints realized.


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[Assistant] That day that the offense will have to carry the day for the saints. And obviously when you spend a buck 50 on the quarterback, on top of the team, you re situate Mike's contract to a one year proven deal. You read work, Andrew's Pete, who's had some injury issues as over the last several years, same as Mike.


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[Assistant] Uh, and you still have Elvin there. Give Elvin the ultimate running back tandem with Jamal Williams. I still say free away will probably be the biggest, best signing, uh, in terms of the team. Once it's all said and done, uh, once this year is over with, but I'm just going to be honest with you. The saints have a lot of pressure on the wind this year.


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[Assistant] So I mean, I just think a lot of what we've seen here, period.


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[Assistant] It's going to be a very intriguing moving forward, but anyway, let's delve right into this one. Five saints under the most pressure.


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[Assistant] In 2023, I have an extremely aggressive off season. I definitely agree with that. Conservative years without applaud birth or consecutive years with a conservative and consecutive years without plug birth here, the saints under the most pressure to succeed in this season. So anyway, we'll see just how well it'll do. But the reality is, is that.


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[Assistant] They gotta produce man, no doubt about it. But anyway, let's delve into it. Saints of Mr. Plus for the last two years, consecutive years, it's the first time that's happened since the 2015-16 season.


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[Assistant] And they finished with a 7 and 10 record this past year. So the first losing season record since 2016 and the first double-digit loss campaign since the Katrina disaster of 2005. So that goes to show you it's been a while since the Saints have been this bad prior, you know, Katrina year.


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[Assistant] These struggles prompted several changes in personnel for the Saints, both on the field and in the coaching staff. The defensive staff is almost entirely new despite a top 10 ranking.


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[Assistant] In total yardage for the last four seasons in a strong finish last year.


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[Assistant] New Orleans will have a new starting quarterback, two new starters at the defensive tackle, along with several new faces on their depth chart now.


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[Assistant] We talked about, uh, some of the personnel the Saints have brought and he's absolutely right. That's why, you know, the last several shows I've been looking at, I mean, the Saints offense is gonna have to catch fire to do it. We did film study. So shout out to the family members that were there.


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[Assistant] Uh, in the Patreon, uh, YouTube membership and Patreon family members, they could check that out. We had an hour and 40 something show, a 40 minute show. We cover news notes. We went over film of several different impactful saints, veterans and undrafted guys and what they could do for the saints. We actually looked at film.


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[Assistant] Of car that was really good in showing on film what car could actually bring to the saints.


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[Assistant] What does he do that will be that phenomenal in the saints offense and.


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[Assistant] What he does is, like I said, he brings explosives.


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[Assistant] To see what I mean when I talk about explosives, the saints didn't have that last year. That's why they, they will milk toe softens. That was not, that wasn't fun to watch. It was very pathetic to watch.


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[Assistant] But the defense, the defense, I believe the defense takes a step back.


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[Assistant] You know, and we talking about in terms of the rush defense, they were pretty pathetic, but overall.


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[Assistant] They, they might take a step back here. Now we know we got Cam and Demario and guys like that there and Marshawn Lattimore and Tyron Matthew.


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[Assistant] But all for the saints to sustain that they're going to heavily rely on those guys to kind of keep everybody steady.


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[Assistant] Cause there's a lot of turnovers on the defensive line coming in here. A lot of question marks of how these guys are going to look together. We know that, uh,


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[Assistant] They from a run defense standpoint, they were pretty poor last year. So we, we hoping they don't, you know, that you can't get it. You can't get any lesser than that, but you got a new secondary coach coming in here over the secondary, a new defensive line coach, a new defensive coordinator work with Dennis Allen. And these are Dennis's guys. So.


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[Assistant] There's a pressure on them to win right now, so it ain't gonna be much of a honeymoon period. The honeymoon's over. Alright, so let's look at it.


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[Assistant] According to Bob, now he said, so who's under the most pressure as the saints entered the 2023 campaign. Number five, as it goes from five to one, Michael Thomas, Kangar Mike after averaging over 117 catches in 13 hundred and 78 yards over his first four seasons. Boy, that seems so far, far away, didn't it? Don't it?


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[Assistant] Thomas has been plagued by injuries the last three campaigns. He's been sidelined for 40 of the Saints last 50 regular season contests, including the last 14 games of 2022. Boy, I tell you those first four years seem like they are so far away.


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[Assistant] Far off, really, man. You know, it is from how far Mike's removed from that campaign and people, we tend to forget how great he was during that stretch.


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[Assistant] But after all that time away and all of those blasted injuries, could he overcome that this year and give us a glimpse of King Gar Mike?


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[Assistant] Uh, from the prior years, it'll be interesting. When on the field, Thomas has shown he's extremely productive.


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[Assistant] In three games last season, he caught 16 passes for 171 yards with three touchdowns.


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[Assistant] At 6-3-2-17, Thomas is one of NFL's most physical receivers. He's also the league's most precise route runner.


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[Assistant] It has elite hands making him nearly impossible to cover on intermediate levels. Even with the talent.


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[Assistant] That New Orleans says that will add wide out. Now Thomas as a rare dimension to the offense. He reworked his deal to stay with the team. That's, you know, this off season, but could be a free free agent at the end of the year. Now 30 years old, expect the motivated Thomas to play another, you know, to play for another big payday. And remember, listen, the saints last year, you know, they, they kind of, they moved up, gave up multiple picks to move up to go and get Chris Olavi.


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[Assistant] Who was a guy that Michael Thomas wanted to be his, um.


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[Assistant] You know, his, his, his tandem. He wanted to tandem with Chris Olavi, the speedster out of Ohio State.


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[Assistant] Who would look, who would look really good next to Mike if Mike can remain healthy. And that's a big question. 40 of the last 50 regular season games, man. That's a lot. And the tension will be on Michael Thomas.


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[Assistant] But the saints are not really relying on Michael Thomas to become Michael Thomas again, if you know what I mean.


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[Assistant] I mean, how could you rely on a guy that's been gone for 40 of the last 50 games? So if it's, it'll be a pleasant bonus, whatever the saints get out of them, right?


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[Assistant] Whatever they get out of Mike Thomas will be a pleasant bonus. And I'm pretty sure the Sanks are going to work him.


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[Assistant] In to the system very slowly based on all of the time that he's missed.


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[Assistant] So, and they have a deep wide receiver room where they can do that. They don't have to force him in there. They can work him back slowly if they need to and handle it however they feel they need to.


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[Assistant] But that'll be really encouraging and cool part of it if we did have Mike Thomas back, right? If we can have Michael Thomas back.


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[Assistant] On a team healthy, he definitely adds another dimension to the, to what the Saints wide receivers, uh, could bring in with obviously Derek Carr. This could be a very phenomenal looking offense.


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[Assistant] And this one year, and of course Michael Thomas will definitely be looking for a payday. I don't know if the Sanks are paying, but let's say if he.


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[Assistant] Let's say Michael Thomas is healthy and he plays out the entire year and he returns to, you know, he's, he plays out all the games and, and if he does that, you know, Michael's, you know, it more than likely he'll finish with about 60 plus catches on the season about, you know, close to 10 touchdowns and.


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[Assistant] You know, he'll have a 60, 70 catch season with all of the weapons the Saints have. You know, so I mean.


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[Assistant] If he can remain to form, yes indeed, he's dangerous.


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[Assistant] Yes, indeed. He's dangerous. He's another weapon there. So it'll be really cool. I'm praying for Michael Thomas, man, to be healthy, man, to remain healthy. So.


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[Assistant] He's under pressure man, but like I said, I don't think the saints are like looking at him and saying, Hey man.


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[Assistant] We really need you. We really need, you know, you know, I think to a degree the saints have already kind of moved.


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[Assistant] And uh, kind of look in another, cause he's 30 years old. Come on. We kind of look, he's, they're kind of looking to the future here. You see Chris Olavi, you see Rashid Shahid.


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[Assistant] And they're looking forward into the future and Mike's right there, but Mike has to show himself and everybody else that he is healthy and ready to compete at a high level again. So number five, number four, Trevor Penning.


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[Assistant] The left tackle first round draft pick still made a few, uh, trades to acquire the two first round picks in the 2022 draft. Chris, uh, the wide out crystal lobby, the 11th overall choice.


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[Assistant] Had a marvelous rookie year and is a vital part of the offense and with their second first rounder, New Orleans drafted offensive tackle, Trevor Penning.


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[Assistant] At the number 19 overall spot. Hadn't seen much of Penning, but you know, you see his attitude.


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[Assistant] And he's, he's, he's a big physical guy with athleticism. We just need to see more of him. Considered raw, but extremely physical out of Northern Iowa.


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[Assistant] Penning improved with each preseason out and unfortunately suffered a foot injury that kept them out for 11 games of the year once healthy penning.


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[Assistant] Was used as an extra blocker on short yardage packages until.


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[Assistant] Getting his first start in the regular season finale. I didn't get that part of the game. You know, the same stinking, you know, you're not winning any games.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I was saying Penning, I'm like, okay, he's not ready to go. Why not?


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[Assistant] But they would put them in there and then say at the final game of the season, I don't know what the game plan was with Penning. You know?


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[Assistant] It wasn't like the Saints was tearing it up offensively speaking. So, you know, why not put penning out there?


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[Assistant] Pencil doesn't start at left tackle. Penning must show quickly while the Saints invested the first round choice in him. He's a mauler in a running game, but must be able to provide standout pass protection as well. Doing so, doing so will allow the team to use reliable veterans.


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[Assistant] James Hurst at an inside spot. If when Andrews Pete gets injured and bolsters the depth and versatility of the entire offensive line. So yes, Bob saying he knows it because it's all too well and familiar with Andrews.


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[Assistant] Another guy I'm praying stays healthy, but Trevor Penning.


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[Assistant] Issue with Trevor Penning, staying healthy. My issue with Trevor Penning is I don't think he should be at the left tackle position.


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[Assistant] Because Derrick Carr is a right-handed quarterback, his blind side would be pinning. Where pinning would be starting at and pinning is...


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[Assistant] Not the best offensive and I've said this so many years. I just think this is so unfundamental. This ridiculous, but they just proceed like it's normal. The best offensive tackle on the team right now.


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[Assistant] I guess between the two would be Ryan Ramczyk, even though he didn't play like it over the last year.


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[Assistant] You know, dealing with injuries or whatnot, hopefully he can return the form. But my thinking, if you have $150 million quarterback, his blind side should be protected by your best offensive tackle. And that is not Trevor Pinnon. That is Ryan Ramcheck for whatever reason, the Sanks are doing this where they won't


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[Assistant] They refused to move Ram check off the right tackle position. Well Q, you don't know how to play left tackle position. That's not true. The Saints played them at left tackle before.


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[Assistant] Well, they don't want to pay him the extra money. The Saints don't give a damn about that money. About bonuses he'll get if he was to move to the left tackle position.


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[Assistant] It's just a silly decision to keep, to have a, you know, a, basically a young, this guy, you know, he started one game, it's the season finale. Even though he has elite athleticism, he's still very much a young offensive lineman that needs to figure it out more. I would be really cool.


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[Assistant] We're moving ram check over there and let ram check figure it out while I'm pinning.


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[Assistant] It's very much new to the position. He can slide and learn that other job, just like Ramchek could. But I won't harp in on that, but in terms of pinning the player, it's just a matter of time.


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[Assistant] You know, having his nasty disposition, hopefully that nasty ferocious, uh, energy that he has, mentality that he has spreads over these, over the entire Saints, uh, melancholy offensive line mindset.


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[Assistant] They're a bunch of, you know, they're a bunch of nice guys and you know, we need to see the mean streak more. We need to see the meanness come out more. And you see it every so often with Eric McCoy. We seen it prior to Ramchak getting paid. Now we see Ryan Ramchak paid. He ain't angry no more. He, you know, he don't play with that, that same chip on his shoulder that he played with before they gave him the money.


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[Assistant] Andrews can't stay healthy. Cesar Ruiz turning out to be the, probably the most consistent offensive lineman that we've seen, which is crazy. And McCoy is simply McCoy. He's another, he's a cool dude.


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[Assistant] But the mean, the meanest, the meanest, the meanest. Yeah, I hope that some of that spreads throughout the Saints offensive line because it takes attitude to run the football.


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[Assistant] We need more attitude. Number three on the list, Pete Carmichael, Saints offensive coordinator, New Orleans ranked just 19th in total offense last year.


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[Assistant] Former head coach Sean Payton is one of the finest offensive minds in the game. Carmichael has been the team's offensive coordinator for 14 years count.


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[Assistant] And on Payton staff since 20, since 2006.


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[Assistant] Play calling was a major issue last year, leading some to be surprised when Carmichael was retained this off season. Carmichael has plenty of talent.


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[Assistant] Thomas, Kamara, Ramchek, McCoy among the league's best at their positions. Their offensive line is physical and formidable.


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[Assistant] Olavi, Rashid Shahid, Jawan Johnson was explosive playmakers, offseason acquisitions of Jamal Williams, Foster Monroe.


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[Assistant] And Kendra Miller and A.T. Perry are major upgrades in depth. Carmichael also now has a quarterback capable, capable of running his intricate system.


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[Assistant] There are no excuses for any another poor performance. If so, there will likely be some massive change over on the offensive staff as there was on the defensive side this year at the very least. P. Carmichael on the list at number three. Now, of course we talked about.


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[Assistant] A lot of the playmaking, the underutilization of Elvin Kamara last year was criminal by Pete Carlin. Almost seemed like he wasn't even called in the same games. You know, so.


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[Assistant] The thing is, when these guys get caught in this time bubble, when they get, when they get, when they get captured in this weird tunnel vision,


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[Assistant] Where they're calling these plays and they're not in sync of what's going on. They're just calling these plays.


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[Assistant] And these plays start dividing from the personnel that's supposed to be out based on the environment of the situation, meaning.


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[Assistant] When he's calling these plays and his playmakers are sitting on the sideline on crucial situations when he's supposed to be in the game. We've seen that. We've seen that all last year with Pete Carmichael. You know?


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[Assistant] His offense lacked balls. Why? Because...


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[Assistant] P car Michael is not that type of dude. We know it was paint man. I mean, showing Peyton, excuse me, the whole damn time brings that funk, but.


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[Assistant] What I think this year, Pete Carmichael should improve and I'll tell you why. Derek Carr, which is the next dude that's on the hit parade. You know, Derek Carr is the main reason why Pete Carmichael's offense should improve.


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[Assistant] Because car brings the things the saints offense needs to be. They don't have to be, uh, you know, a dynamo.


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[Assistant] Blow you out the gym offense type of deal, but even though


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[Assistant] What happens with Derek Carr? He brings the explosive plays. He gets the ball down the field. He throws a very easy 40 plus yard deep ball with a spiral. He has a feathery touch and that's his best throw.


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[Assistant] He also moves out on, out of the pocket to make throws. He uses his wheels when he needs to.


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[Assistant] He's actually pretty decently accurate on intermediate stuff.


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[Assistant] You know, we watched him work on that part of his game. And I think the stink on car is a lot from his brother because you know, they say that he underachieved with the Raiders. He is the all time passing leader for the Raiders organization. This is a championship organization. He's the top guy. You know, he owns a lot of their records over there.


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[Assistant] You know, is when we lost record, the only way to dispel a lot of this stuff, despite the fact that we covered and talked about Derek calling the P on the, uh, Patriots, uh, chapter.


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[Assistant] You guys can, uh, subscribe, hit the link, join the channel and you can get all that. We talk about that. What makes him.


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[Assistant] Not a middling quarterback, but people are not looking at the statistics we break that down.


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[Assistant] But his temperament, his leadership ability, the fact that he will bring explosives, he'll make the saints offense very exciting to watch because the saints have weapons all over the place as we just ran over and the fact that he can get them the ball. So like I said.


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[Assistant] The car in the saints offense, the wide open offense with Pete Carmichael talking to him and he is a leader guy.


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[Assistant] And, and Pete Carmichael is kind of a guy we know car has an alpha mentality.


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[Assistant] P car, Michael, more of a beta and that's balanced right there. When you have a guy in the offensive coordinator, they'll work well together because you know, and cars not going to run over car. Michael, you know, he won't run over them.


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[Assistant] You won't run them down, but they'll kind of bounce off each other and they'll create a harmony, I think in the wrong way.


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[Assistant] Uh, Carmichael will look to, look to Carr to help him drive the Saints to see, I don't know, he's goddamn driving.


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[Assistant] You knew it was coming. You knew it was coming. You know, I was going to say something like that. I, but anyway.


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[Assistant] I think that Carr and Carmichael will bring a good offense together for the Saints. And I think the Saints offense will drastically improve. I would even say.


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[Assistant] Based on studying the film of what he brings and the Saints just protecting him and him getting the ball to the wide receivers and the weapons around him, the running back tight ends.


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[Assistant] You know, and then he has weapons in the wide receiver and tight end room that he played with before with the Raiders. It heightens the team's success. And I think that how fast Carr picks up with Carmichael is laying down is a whole nother thing, but I really see a very good Saints offense. I'm talking top 10 here. I'm talking top 10.


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[Assistant] I'm talking about a top 10 Saints offense next year with Kara running the team. Him and Kara Michael together. So I think that's a big part of the dynamic. Him, those two together. Anyway.


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[Assistant] Car Michael, number two on the list. I mean car, excuse me, number two on the list.


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[Assistant] Saints is betting a hundred million dollars that they found the success of the Drew. That's how they guaranteed money. They're playing 32 year, God, while a hundred million.


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[Assistant] They're paying the 32 year old car who signed a five year contract after his release from the Raiders.


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[Assistant] With 217 touchdowns against 99 interceptions, that 35,222 passing yards is sixth ranked among, and this is a stat dropping because a lot of people not talking about this, is that he's sixth among active NFL quarterbacks in the game currently. Is that middle of the pack?


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[Assistant] With a 63 and 79 career record. And that's what it, and that's what sacks him every time. Oh, he's only 63 and 79 as a starter. Well, he doesn't play defense, does he?


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[Assistant] You know, so in the end, I think the saints offense will be a top 10 unit when it's all said and done. This will be car six head coach, six different offensive coordinator. Remember when people started saying all this stuff about the man, the six head coach in the nine years going, this is going into his 10th year, six head coach.


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[Assistant] You know, he had five of them with the Raiders, just alone, five coaches in Oakland, six different offensive coordinators.


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[Assistant] He heads into his 10th year. The fact that he remained productive says that he is able to grasp in the offensive system quickly. That is a great point, Bob Rowe.


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[Assistant] Great point. Bob is dropping the science. Let me read that again.


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[Assistant] This will be Carr's sixth head coach, six different offensive coordinator, right? As he heads into his 10th year. The fact.


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[Assistant] That he remained productive says that he is able to grasp any offensive system quickly. That is absolutely awesome Bob Rose. That is, that's, that's, I wasn't even thinking about that.


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[Assistant] And I was looking up the stuff and I was looking up certain statistics and other stuff, but Bob brings, it goes a little bit, a little, another, you know, level into it. That's a great point about picking up the system.


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[Assistant] You know, that fast with all those different people. That's a wonderful point. Replacing a legend is a monumental task, yet that's exactly what faces Carl in New Orleans. He'll attempt to do it with more talent than he's ever played with, but expectations will be astronomical. You also take on a task with a familiar face and a coach who draft them. So it seems like harmony. It seems like harmony, right?


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[Assistant] And then here's Dennis Allen, number one guy on the damn list, right?


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[Assistant] Carl need to look no further than his head coach for advice on replacing a franchise legend. Allen winches seven and 10 in his first year as coach Peyton's successor.