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[Assistant] Yeah, it wasn't even an M-series. It wasn't even an M-people. And that's your bad father. And I was like, oh man, you completely undermined all of the actual good stuff you were doing in this segment when you were doing real life bits.


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[Assistant] So I thought the segment was good. I just wouldn't, I, I could have done without the sweet 16 spoilt child stuff.


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[Assistant] It's funny, I didn't pick up that the WrestleMania line was also supposed to be comedy.


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[Assistant] So when he said like, you know, you were going to come to my eighth grade Diddley Dees, but you were doing WrestleMania instead. And you said, well, yeah, of course you're going to do WrestleMania.


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[Assistant] I think like, I would have actually been like, well no, of course he's not going to do WrestleMania, he's going to go hang out with his child.


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[Assistant] So, but like, so I don't know if that was also supposed to be comedy. All I'm saying is like, it's...


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[Assistant] But I don't think it's the same thing as being the spoiled child who was like, on my Sweet 16, you didn't get me this birthday party thing. I don't think those two characters are the same, and I don't think it's the same level of comedy.


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[Assistant] And also it's just that, like, if the Miz had said it, I'd be like, that is a line that completely fits the Miz. But I don't think it's a line that completely fits Dominic Mysterio.


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[Assistant] I disagree with that. And like, if the Miz had said it as well, I'd have been like, oh god, that's such lazy writing.


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[Assistant] Again, it's just, I think that's what I kind of, it's not the content of it, but it is the content of it, but it's just that like, try harder.


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[Assistant] Now, that's really what my issue more with it is. As opposed to, like, I don't think it works for a lot of the future they're doing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's just it, uh, also I thought the segment they did on Smackdown was way better than this one, which I don't think particularly helps either. Yeah. Uh, Trish Stratus came out of the, uh, locker room after being tendered to, and she, Leta, and Becky have all decided that damage could all have just...


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[Assistant] But it is though, but you're right, like, that is what this story was. Damage girl attacked Trish, and Trish was okay.


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[Assistant] Cool. There you go! There you go, you guys! I'm glad we filmed those extra stuff in where we were last week. Seth Rollins took on Baron Corbin, and Rollins won pretty quickly. He used Miz as a big launching pad to do an oopa doopa stoopa stomp onto Corbin for the win, and dominated, uh, while doing so.


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[Assistant] That was that. We then got Bianca Belair versus Chelsea Green. There is.


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[Assistant] That's, that's comedy. That is genuinely very, very good comedy. Cause they were advertised to have a match with good brothers. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Didn't happen. Didn't happen. Cause again, Triple H looks at the Good Brothers like, where's AJ? I have no idea what to do with you otherwise. So I thought this was so, so great. This was, it was so funny. I thought Maximum Elders were great. I thought Otis was great. Yep. And Chad Gable.


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[Assistant] Walks up to Otis, and he's like, I've been looking for you all night, and Otis is almost like torn, he's like talking to Maxine, and Maxine's like putting down Chad and stuff, and then Chad says to him like,


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[Assistant] It's okay. We've still got time for a couple of hours of studying before we had to go to the next town. I noticed it's like...


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[Assistant] Sorry coach, I'm gonna go this way. And he goes off with his cool new friends, and he leaves Sad Gable behind, who does a little pouty lip, cause his study buddy is going off with the cool kids at school.


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[Assistant] This rules! This is so good! This is the match I'm looking forward to at Wrestlemania!


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[Assistant] I mean, they're interchangeable. Okay, yeah, sure. But like, the key to this is, Otis is in the shark cage. Why a shark cage? Because it's Wrestlemania. And then-


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[Assistant] I love this. I love that it's essentially a high school feud. Yeah. Cause it's the cool kids at school versus the dogs.


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[Assistant] Like, I think that WWE have been a bit naff at deciding whether or not Alpha Academy are heels or faces, because sometimes they're heels, sometimes they're just faces. I think they're faces now. But I think they're faces now, and this is a perfect, perfect fit, and I think this is really, really great. We then had


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[Assistant] Apologies, you are right. I've got my notes out of order. Bianca Belair versus Chelsea Green.


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[Assistant] Uh, there was lots of car mallet interference that allowed Chelsea Green to take control, but much like last week, it never actually felt like Bianca Belair was in trouble, and Belair won.


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[Assistant] The heels then beat her down afterwards, Asuka made the save, and danced with her title,


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[Assistant] My note's here for Batem, I am really ready for this for you to actually get started.


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[Assistant] Okay, I said this in my Anderson review, but I'll repeat it here now. This has got all of the trappings of Bianca Belair vs Sasha Banks. Which ended up being a classic. That's, well that's my point. It was absolutely dog-ass TV. Yep. And then a


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[Assistant] Banger of a match of pay-per-view. And no one ever talks about the dog-ass TV, they just talk about the banging match of the pay-per-view.


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[Assistant] That's the, that's the Triple H secret. He's very good at making you forget that he booked 8 weeks of terrible television because he had one really good 30 minute match on a pay per view. That is his secret talent. Yep. That's the formula. And it's gonna happen again because these two are gonna have an


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[Assistant] Awesome match at WrestleMania. I hope so. It's gonna be wicked, but the build has been


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[Assistant] Terrible. It's not been great. Uh, wow. Mhm. Was the BMW joke good? Yes, 58, no, 41. That is more even than I was expecting it to be. Me too. Yep. I was, I was expecting a bigger swing into yes, but that is


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[Assistant] More or less fifty-fifty, sixty-forty. So I win, aren't you?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm not a big fan of this Bianca Bell airfue though, uh, do something.


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[Assistant] Not good. Not great. Like two and a half hours into this show we get this one women's match and it's this. Uh, I don't think it's good. It is bad when AEW does it, but that should not be. That is such a low bar. Like AEW's presentation of women is disastrously low.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And even then those one matches sometimes go three minutes. Cause if it's a Jade Cargill match, that ain't going long. You know, Ruby Soho versus, um, Thingyo on Dynamite didn't go long because it's a Ruby Soho squash match and then the Hardsman match. But that's your one women's match for the show. And I think you should do better. And I think that Raw


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[Assistant] Uh, but on this show there just wasn't. It felt like a skeleton crew this week. Yeah. I felt like all the backstage stuff that they shot was all done last week. Yeah. And just, it was a much smaller crew. I thought, I just think you can do that.


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[Assistant] We think Watt has ruined wrestling somewhat for the last 20 odd years. We Want Tables is very quickly becoming my least favorite chart in the world. It's so annoying. It's, it's the worst, absolute dirt worst.


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[Assistant] Cause it happens in any hardcore, street fight, ladder match, tables match, 30 seconds in, we won. Someone actually said this on Twitter earlier and I completely agree. It's essentially chanting, we want, uh, this is awesome. It means nothing. You don't actually want tables. It's just, it's a hardcore match. So you feel obligated that you need to chant that thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and then, like, but, you know, credit to this crowd, when, uh, Kevin Owens got the table out...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm not a fan of the We Want Tables chance. Because I think at this point it is meaningless. However...


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[Assistant] And sure enough, he did. He did. He took a hell of a bump onto those chairs.


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[Assistant] That's fine. It's absolutely fine. Don't worry about it. It's actually, because Kevin Owens has done so many of those spots over the year, it actually gives him power.


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[Assistant] He regains HP. He's a chair type Pokemon. So if you throw him onto the chair, it actually just gives him back his health. They brawled to the back, and then the Usos attacked Kevin Owens, double super kick, laid him out.


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[Assistant] On his own, lost three on one.


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[Assistant] At some point, he is going to have to swallow his pride and realise he cannot do this on his own. Which is a lovely little bit of story.


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[Assistant] Well that was the show, uh, I gave it 3 out of 5, uh, in my raw review. That's fair. And it was more a case of, I give this 3 out of 5, I guess. Yeah.


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[Assistant] So we're gonna have a poll going up. In fact, the poll is already up. Thumbs up, thumbs down, thumbs in the middle. Let us know what you thought while we shout out some very, very important people from our wonderful Pledgehammer community. Become a Pledgehammer over at Patreon.com.


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[Assistant] And tomorrow, it's Wednesday, you know what that means, it's WrestleTalk After Dark. Which will be me, Tempest, and Pete having a couple drinks and talking some smack, I guess, and you answering your mad questions from the Patreon mailbag.


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[Assistant] Myself and Oli Davis will be reviewing WrestleMania X8, uh, Rock vs. Hogan and also Triple H vs. Jericho. Um, that will be going up in a week's time. Yep. Or possibly two weeks time depending on when we record it. Next Wednesday. Next Wednesday. Or the Wednesday after. Depends on when we get it recorded. Ideally it'll be next Wednesday. Hopefully next Wednesday. Hopefully it's next Wednesday, but we'll soon see.


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[Assistant] Um, but yeaah, that's coming up very soon on your Patreon. But if you are one of our $25 and above Patreon playchambers, you get your name read out on this show like these fine folks, Lord Chris Zanzo. Too lot to handle, Lottie McCullough. Manipulating Manny Umaria.


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[Assistant] Surely, surely, really, what Justin should have said was wrestle a seven foot tall wardrobe.


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[Assistant] Best match ever. Yeah. Uhm, yeah. I mean, a seven foot tall wardrobe, but even so Brock Lesnar is giving the F5 to a seven foot tall wardrobe. I'd pop. I'd pop. Bruce Youngberg says, which will be worse? Vince taking that stunner last year or a moss taking an F5? That's from Bruce the Mailman.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, I think it is going to be Vince. But, we'll see.


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[Assistant] Uh, Zach here says, uh, love what you guys do. Watch almost every stream. Do you think that LA Knight will face Lashley or will he just do an open challenge? Maybe that's answered by Steve Austin. Maybe even added to the IC title match either way. Happy birthday, Pete. It's not my birthday. And he won't be added to the IC title match. That will for sure be the triple threat. Yeah.


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[Assistant] What a tune though. Everyone, get out of your way to play Buster Groove on the PlayStation. Great game.


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[Assistant] Hey guys, while the Cody segment was really great and a real banger from last night's show must have been Maxima male models made me laugh really hard, especially Mansoor's delivery. I hope his nails are okay. Love you guys, stay groovy. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Kevin here says, Pete, we want to know what. It's just hard to chart. We want four tables stacked on top of each other and a two by two setup and some flames on them. Clap clap clap clap.


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[Assistant] The joke was just fine. Nothing crazy about it. Uh, to have some stupid jokes from me. Thank you, Kevin. Thank you, Kevin. Uh, apologies. Streamlabs has lost the next username. It's a Streamlabs issue. Uh, they will sort it eventually. Hopefully.


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[Assistant] Look, he's, he is bad on commentary, but also I think it is a, it's a high, high pressure gig. Very much so. I could not do raw commentary. Absolutely. I would be dreadful at it. I'm not great at commentary as it is, but I would be.


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[Assistant] Awful doing WWE Raw commentary. That'd be much worse than KP. There's so much stuff that you have to do. Yeah, absolutely. I'd be so much worse than Kevin Patrick is. My only thing I've got with Kevin is he doesn't have the gravitas. It's not just that he flubs his words. That happens. It's more just, it sounds lost.


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[Assistant] And also like, in fairness to him as well, Michael Cole did once say, steel stairs, what a chair shot. So, in your early days, you can make these mistakes.


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[Assistant] Chris here says, Hi guys. As much as I'm annoyed that Bray and Alexa are missing WrestleMania, especially Alexa for the second year, I can see this as a chance to step back and see how they can be fixed and then have a story to come back for together and rehash they can be. Thoughts? Refresh they can be. Oh, well apparently Bray isn't missing WrestleMania.


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[Assistant] So they did a video where they were revealing everyone's 2k scores. Oh, have I never seen someone just not want to be there. And was just like, hey, what do you think your score is going to be? She was like,


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[Assistant] Maybe it'll be the same as last year, maybe I'll even go up.


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[Assistant] And then it went down. She was like, oh, well, you know, that tells her a lot, doesn't it?


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[Assistant] Um, I think if it is, I think if LA Knight does everything in WrestleMania, I like the idea that someone posted earlier about the open challenge. And a Steve Austin segment. That is probably what I would do for LA Knight.


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[Assistant] Tony, Trips makes bad choices, Tony actively doesn't care. Ryan Singh says if Jay White, Omega and the Young Bucks were to join WWE, there would be 9 former Bullet Club members in WWE at one time.


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[Assistant] Um, but yeaah, like it is mad, if all of them went, like nine former Bullet Club members, it's crazy. Yeaah, I mean, that would each build your own stars. I've seen it from other promotions.


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[Assistant] That I like. I just want to make sure I pick up my facetiousness. I'm kidding when I say they should build their own stars and stop stealing other people's.


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[Assistant] Kevin said I know it wasn't intentional but I found it hilarious that you posted the first episode of Worst Match Ever on International Women's Day.


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[Assistant] It's a bit of the playstation, wouldn't it? A couple of weeks or so. I'll listen to some uh, I'll listen to some singing queen and you can book your terrible shows. Yeah, exactly. I'll have a look at this precious silver.


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[Assistant] Caleb, formerly known as Mr. Higglesby, speaking of my jam, uh, who's hornier for the Miz? Heel Michael Cole or current Corey Gray? 100p Heel Michael Cole. We're a little over two months away for Tears of the Kingdom and I'm so pumped.


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[Assistant] Ray inspired so many, uh, my friend has done to follow your dreams. If you can't reach, then jump. On a personal note, Nixon is a fantastic wrestler and an even better friend. His interest in his last match is at DOA The Last Hurrah in Great Yarmouth this Saturday. He will be wrestling in the UK's best kept secret and your mum's favourite, Brad O'Brien.


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[Assistant] Anyway, thankfully you do. My day will be a lot blander without you wonderful lads. Luke is the man. Oli is peng. All hail wrestlers.


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[Assistant] P.S. I haven't written in a while, been financially strapped, but I really do like your new YouTube shows.


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[Assistant] One second. Rilke on YouTube, uh, survival series in three words are excellent. Excellent watches. If those you haven't checked out, then I implore you to do so. Oh, and listen to crime in sports. Doodles. Thanks.


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[Assistant] Thank you very much, Jack, for four big old chats there. Uh, we're gonna end the poll, uh, to see what the results are for your thoughts on this episode of Roar. We have mid 54%, thumbs up 31, thumbs down 14.


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[Assistant] Mostly mid. Mostly mid, but pointing upwards. Ever so slightly. Ever so slightly pointing upwards. So, not bad at all. And Sunny Neve here points out Pete's a very good actor in his adult movies. So, good to know.


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[Assistant] Thank you all so much for watching this edition of the WrestleTalk Podcast Reviews Monday Night Raw. Please do press the subscribe button and press the thumbs up button as well and leave your comment down below if you've made it this far. In fact, why don't you leave, we should have a little secret saying that people can comment to show that you did make it this far and that will be, uhm,


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[Assistant] The title of Pete's adult movie, I will leave that up to you. We'll see you on Thursday for the AEW Dynamite review where it's MJF's rebar mitzvah.


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[Assistant] And I cannot. I'm, I've not been as excited for wrestling segments in 2023 than I have been MJF's Reeba Mitzvah. Should be fun.


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[Assistant] Oh, it's gonna be delightful. And tomorrow, worst match ever, we're gonna be watching Gerald Briscoe versus Pat Patterson in a hardcore evening gown match from King of the Ring 2000. Take care everyone, have a great day! Jam that jam!


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[Assistant] I actually kinda like it. I'm very, very pleased we got Silver the King and Silver Chick Hicks. And now of course today we'll be taking a look at Silver Dinoco Cruz Ramirez.


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[Assistant] I love background characters, love new characters in general, but sometimes it's nice to take a step back and appreciate the main characters in kind of like a special edition, you know?


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[Assistant] Silver paint job. I mean, this is a very elegant look to cruise here with the metallic blue there as well. It looks awesome. I can't wait to crack her open. So yeah guys, welcome back to another Disney docket presentation.


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[Assistant] We're continuing on with the Case K reviews here after Ernesto.


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[Assistant] And yea, if you guys missed my Case Cam Boxing, I'll link it in the description below and cards just pop up in the top right hand corner. It was a great fun unboxing, really great case.


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[Assistant] I'm looking forward to Case Al because that case should be better, but I actually might have already released that video by now. I'm not entirely sure because I'm pre-recording all these videos, but Case Al is like,


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[Assistant] The king. It's like a top tier case. But yeah, anyways, unfortunately, Mattel is not silverizing the artwork or Disney Pixar is not silverizing the artwork that they send to Mattel to use. They only did that one time back in 2015 for the Walmart exclusive line.


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[Assistant] But yeah, it's not really a big deal, but you know, afar, like it just kind of looks like a regular Dianco cruise, which nobody wants. I speak on behalf of everybody. Nobody wants that.


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[Assistant] But yea, of course she is in the Silver Collection series, Collection on Plata, and you have a nice little silhouette there of McQueen.


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[Assistant] And the only one that I really hope they release in the future is a Cars 3 Silver McQueen. So then you could have, you know, the Silvers from Cars 1 together and the Silvers from Cars 2, which we already have, and then the Silvers from Cars 3, like the main racers all in silver. I think that would be so cool. It'd be like,


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[Assistant] You know, these three, then you could have Royal Grand Prix McQueen, Francesco Bernoulli, and like, Jeff Corvette, or Lewis Hamilton. And then you'd have Cruz, Jackson, and then the Cars 3 McQueen.


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[Assistant] I think that'd be awesome. And then eventually maybe like Cal Weathers and Bobby Swift too.


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[Assistant] But we're just gonna take it in baby steps. So I'll be right back with Cruz all opened up.


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[Assistant] Alright, so we got Cruz out of the package and she is looking stunning. The silver finish almost looks like Zaymak to me, like Thailand does a really nice job of making it look just kind of realistic, whereas I feel like it was a little bit too gimmicky from China, like I don't know. I like this silver McQueen from China here, but I feel like some of the


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[Assistant] Racers just didn't look that great silver eyes, especially compared to the Thailand more zamak bare metal silver. I just personally prefer it, but it is basically up to your personal preference what kind of silver finish that you prefer. That was redundant, but anyways, like I was talking about,


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[Assistant] Silver Cars 3 McQueen would be a great release, and Tomica actually released one already, along with a Silver Doc Hudson, or a Fabulous Hudson Hornet I should say, and I picked this one up because I knew Mattel wasn't going to release it. At the time I bought this, I thought that they would be doing the Cars 3 McQueen Silver, but lo and behold, popped out the Cars 1 McQueen Silver.


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[Assistant] But Tomica also did a Silver Jackson Storm and Dinoco Cruz, so they go pretty much hand in hand, but this Silver Fabulous Huffton Hornet I had to get because, I mean, if Mattel did that, that would be the best Silver release like ever. I mean, look how amazing it looks from Tomica, and I'm not even like a super big fan of Tomica.


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[Assistant] But anyways, we're kind of going to do a side by side comparison here with the regular Danico cruise. I have to say despite coming from Thailand.


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[Assistant] Her eyes are pristine, like they're not grainy at all, they look great. Maybe it's just cause they're gray.


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[Assistant] I really like it and also all the decals are crystal clear from Thailand. I have to say this is one of the best Thailand releases I've ever seen, but we're just going to take it one step at a time here. You have the Dianca logo there on the hood and again,


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[Assistant] Look how clear that looks. That is beautiful. It's a nice blue metallic decal that just is brilliant off of the silver zamak finish. You got the same expression though, headlights.


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[Assistant] And then on the side here, she has her blue metallic rims with light year text in yellow, which is exactly how it is on the normal version.


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[Assistant] And then you have Dinoco 51 with the dinosaur wrapping around the fender, which I always liked that.


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[Assistant] I feel like Danica Cruz is just overproduced so much, nobody really appreciates her design, but it's actually very well done.


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[Assistant] And yeah, these decals are so clear. Piston cop combustor synergy and carbon cyber.


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[Assistant] They're actually clearer here than they are up there. And maybe it's because this is, you know, on yellow.


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[Assistant] And this is on gray, could be more readable that way, but this is a China release here. Look how much better the decals are on Thailand here than China. That is incredible. I'm so happy to see Thailand improving that way. And I have to say, yeah, this is the clearest decals I've ever seen from Thailand. Anyway, you have 51 there on the roof.


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[Assistant] Look how amazing that looks. I can't say enough good things about cruiser mirrors here. You got the roof flaps. Now I don't know what's going on right here. It looks like a little paint bubble. That's very strange. I've never really seen anything like that before, but no harm, no foul.


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[Assistant] You've got the Danico logo, like the classic version, which is amazing. I like that logo a lot.


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[Assistant] And then 51 and then the rookie racing stripes, which are now a little bit more green, it looks like instead of yellow.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, super happy about this release. Definitely some of the clearest decals, if not the clearest decals we've seen come out of Thailand. I mean, if you take a look here at like Silver Chick Hicks and you look at his decals.


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[Assistant] They simply aren't that clear. You can see a lot of grain here. It just doesn't look that good. If you were to compare this to a Chinese chick, the Chinese chick would have far clearer decals. But if, you know, we compare like we just did with the cruises, it's the complete opposite nearly. Here you have the king. His decals are okay. They aren't amazing.


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[Assistant] I just feel like the numbers are so clearly cut and they're just sleek and sharp on cruise. Whereas these might be a little fuzzy here and there, but I do like the king a lot. Don't get me wrong.


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[Assistant] So now we have kind of two special metallic releases for Cruz Ramirez. I wonder how a metallic Dinoco Cruz would look.


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[Assistant] Although they are starting to dabble in double metallics like with the upcoming transforming Lightning McQueen Superchase that will be metallic blue and red.


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[Assistant] So hopefully that opens the door to more things like it. But yeah, guys, that's all for this video. I hope you guys enjoyed it. I can't say enough good things about Silver Cruise and to be completely honest with you, I was not expecting to like her this much because Cruise is really not a big favorite character of mine. I'm not really a huge fan, but


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[Assistant] This silver version is super nice and she definitely deserves some attention for it. So I'll see you guys next time for another video. Bye now!


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[Assistant] The material came from, uh, like the meaning is like something, uh, like,


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[Assistant] I was making music for a minute at the time, but I didn't have a name, so I was just making shit, uh.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was like, I just opened a dictionary. I was like, I was like 18. I was like, what do I wanna fucking, what do I wanna go by?


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[Assistant] This is when I realized that I was really finna do this shit and like...


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[Assistant] Uh, it really kicked in that I needed a name, like that really like, you know what I'm saying, like set me apart and shit. And I opened a dictionary and.


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[Assistant] Like I put my finger on that worry bro. I like, oh my mom's, like that shit's crazy.


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[Assistant] That was like the first thing, that was literally the first thing that I opened to, and I was like, alright, fuck with this, I'm not even gonna look for note notes. That's far.


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[Assistant] He was, we were the little weird kids that were cool, so like...


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[Assistant] We fucked with everybody. Like it wasn't nobody that we didn't fuck with and-


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[Assistant] I don't know, we just like always like, we didn't even really click up.


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[Assistant] Till we both graduated, but like in high school we was both just like...


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[Assistant] I didn't even, I wasn't even like, talking about my music like that in high school. Like, at least to, like, you know, out, I was really just like, on some like,


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[Assistant] Friends, friends only type shit, just telling my friends like, till I felt like I was actually fine enough to, like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just, uh, no, I wasn't problematic at all. I didn't like cause trouble or anything. Uh, I just didn't go to class.


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[Assistant] Uh-huh. I just didn't... I don't know, it was like, uh...


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[Assistant] I'm not, I don't know. This isn't, I, I, I'm learning other things right now. I, cause I, I'm, I pick up on shit fast and, and I was always that kid that the teacher, you know, was like, called me a ringleader cause I was,


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[Assistant] So I just stopped going to, I stopped going to class and they was just ready to get me out there. I was like, yo, you, you have skipped more days than you actually went to school in your senior year. So you.


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[Assistant] I wasn't like hurt by that, my mother was hurt, so that hurt me, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah man, I mean, I was just, I was like a artist for a while, like drawing and shit, and then I got into graphic design, but it was more so like,


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[Assistant] The psychology of shit, like, being around that many people and...


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[Assistant] Like, I've always been a person that really understand how the mind works real well. Like, and so it was more so like a social thing for me. It was like, oh shit, I'm getting up to-


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[Assistant] Like the 3D loops, it was 3D loops, that's what everybody called it back then. That shit was like 8th grade man, like, that was like the first time I ever made a beat, that shit sucked.


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[Assistant] Realistically, I never thought of being a musician, man, just, but now I realize that it had always kept ending up around me, like my parents and my dad, my dad was a truck driver and he found, uh, found a trailer, like,


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[Assistant] Nah, we were ballin' when we were little and then the economy crashed and then... True.


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[Assistant] What, like 2008 we're talking? Nah, nah, I'm an old head, so like, like, I say like, like a little bit, like right around like 9-11 type shit.


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[Assistant] Nah, my dad, I mean, I, you know, he was a truck driver, he, he, he,


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[Assistant] When he took me, when he took me here to get like, hella toys from like this toy store.


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[Assistant] No, he drove, he drove, like, he drove us in his truck, like, just like that. To Los Angeles to buy toys.


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[Assistant] So he just brought my family and then like, it was my birthday so he like, I guess this nigga knew.


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[Assistant] I can't complain about my childhood though, honestly. I was good, I had hella toys and shit. And my parents, they, like what I was saying, they used to play like,


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[Assistant] All kinds of like music, like funk shit, like all kinds of shit. And so I've always loved music. And then I guess like, I was just like, you know what? Like, cause I was in band, you know, like.


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[Assistant] Cause I was like, I guess this will be cool to learn the instrument. Then I started playing drums in high school. And uhm,


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[Assistant] I think when I started playing drums is when I started realizing that I like to manipulate sound. So I was like, I'm gonna learn how to make beats. And uhm, yeah, that shit.


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[Assistant] Like, uh, was that grime? Was that like, I was hearing like, like, that's the thing is like, you gotta be able to like, process that like, your music is shit.


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[Assistant] In the beginning. Like, a lot of people can't do that. A lot of people is like grinding so hard and they're like, but they not grinding at making their music better.


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[Assistant] Exactly, exactly. You know, and then like, uhm, I mean the biggest appeal to that is that


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[Assistant] My money gonna be my money, you know, like, I was, I was, uh, I was, uh,


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[Assistant] He's one of the most fast skateboarders, like I know personally, this nigga can land anything, bolts, and he, he used to hang out with all the other dudes at


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[Assistant] Ruin Skate Shop, him, my, you know, my other best friend, White Mike, uhm, and Yellow Wolf used to come up there, and...


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[Assistant] About to graduate right then. Right. And uh.


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[Assistant] And eventually, uh, you know, Michael was like, yeah, you know that dude make music and shit. And I was like, oh yeah, I thought that's who that was and shit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was, he was still kind of in his grind mode and that also, that's another.


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[Assistant] That nigga is fire, bro. He's, yeaah, man. He's, he's like, he's like,


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[Assistant] Pro level, like definitely pro level like skateboarding. Oh yea, you can go find his footy. Rich the Kidz, I was popping all this shit. Rich the Kidz is nuts.


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[Assistant] Nah, yeaah, I, uh, nah, I did what I had to do, man, cause, you know, uh,


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[Assistant] I was like, well I'm not going to college, fuck this shit, I'm making music.


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[Assistant] I'm not fine enough to make money at music right now, so, uh,


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[Assistant] Nah, it's just like, it's like, if you getting mid, like, the only way to get mid now is to get a lot of that shit, so you probably gonna have to go to the fucking hood, and you, yeaah, you not gonna wanna go there, like, cause that shit is, nobody wanna be there, unless,


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[Assistant] They have to be, or they, they was just, they born in that shit. That's just real shit on the hood. I love all my hood niggas, but...


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[Assistant] I mean, even me, I grew, I, I, like, I was born, like, my, my parents stay in a real rough area, and then we got the fuck out of there, and I'm like, yeaah, I would put money into hoods and shit, but,


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[Assistant] I don't condone going to stay there and shit and doing, trapping any of that shit. Hell yea, nah man like, trapping is like, that shit was...


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[Assistant] Of course it was fun, I sold and smoked a lot of weed, I fuckin' did a lot of shit, made a lot of money, but like...


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[Assistant] I spent all that money on getting out of trouble or god damn...


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[Assistant] Some Breaking Bad type shit doesn't happen and I'm like- Damn, you had the blue meth? I ain't had a blue meth, but I-


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[Assistant] No, man, drugs come in every color you could think of, like.


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[Assistant] I, I, I play sports growing up, like I play wheelchair sports and we was like one of the most fun teams in the nation and shit and uh, the corporation.


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[Assistant] Yeah, everything. Basketball, track, swimming, like. Woah. Yeah, that shit's crazy. Like, it's like, uh, it's like a big, like,


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[Assistant] So you were real good at all these, like, wheelchair sports? I was a track star and a basketball star. Those are my two shits, like. Really? Yeah, I travel a lot just doing that, so I feel like that kind of, like,


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[Assistant] You know, I did a lot for them, so they looked out for me afterwards, you know, gave me this job, and I did that shit for like a month, man, I couldn't, I just, you know, I was like, I can't do this, man.


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[Assistant] Yeah, man, I mean, on some, on some real like, I don't want to get too dark and deep, but like, you know, like when my mom passed, like after you see somebody die with your own eyes, it's like you reach a level where you like,


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[Assistant] Where certain shit don't matter to you no more, like certain shit's not.


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[Assistant] You see what's real and what's not. Like you're like, oh, this is what they've been telling us is real this whole time.


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[Assistant] And that shit is the exact opposite.


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[Assistant] I was doing a lot of reading before she passed, so I knew a lot of shit that people my age didn't know. With politics and all kinds of shit. So my anger was geared towards the system.


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[Assistant] Quote unquote, you know what I'm saying, like, what people call the system. Uh, and,


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[Assistant] For a long time that shit like, ailed me and crippled me like, socially and, but not creatively, like, that's what, I feel like that's what like,


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[Assistant] Kick me into overdrive, you know, I was like, alright, there's no going back now, like, I gotta fuckin', I gotta go crazy.


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[Assistant] So... So you put yourself entirely into your, into your music and your work? Oh yeaah. Oh yeaah. Like, I mean, but... It's funny because...


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[Assistant] I feel like rap me isn't even me. It's like, it's like my subconscious that has.


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[Assistant] Done and dealt and seen all this kind of shit, you know what I'm saying? Uh huh. And so...


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[Assistant] It's like, uh, it's like channeling almost. Right. But I'm channeling myself. I'm just like, talking about shit that I like, wouldn't really talk about, you know, otherwise or like,


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[Assistant] Uh, like, one of the best creative ways to vent yourself, so I've like, kind of mastered, like,


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[Assistant] You know, venting myself through my creative shit, and I don't even really, I don't, well, I make beats in, like, other shit like that, for...


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[Assistant] But I'm telling people, like, I'm kinda mentioning this crazy shit, and, but it's in a chill, like,


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[Assistant] I'm trying to help niggas, you know, in a lot of my music and shit. Some shit I'm just like making to be goofy, some shit I'm making this stunt, but for the most part I'm really like, venting my emotions in the hopes that


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[Assistant] Some crazy shit, like, that shit just helped me out, which, oh, I get so many messages, bro, I can't even reply to all of them, like, people just telling me, like,


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[Assistant] Oh man, your music's so real, your so this, your so that, like, stay true. And so, and I don't do it for that, but I do.


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[Assistant] Do it for that, you get what I'm saying? I do it for them to realize, like, oh, this, this, and this, like, damn, like, okay, like,


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[Assistant] Cause they're telling me I helped them through it. I just want them to know that they can be helped. And that they can get through that shit. They ain't gotta, you know, deal with being sad all the time. Cause who wanna be fucking, wanna be fucking sad with their dumb in their butt all day.


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[Assistant] Uhm, this is really like him and a few select people that, uhm, that are around Awful and that kinda...


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[Assistant] That's the only time I met, uh, I met father. Yeah, how'd you meet him? I'm calling him fat. Fat, okay.


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[Assistant] Oh, of course, of course. I mean, nah, it's like, it's, I mean, like, I mean...


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[Assistant] It didn't, it's not like anything crazy or like, you know, like, and I mean, I'm still gonna keep telling people like, cause like, there's always gonna be-


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[Assistant] It's a, the, the scientific term is sacral genesis.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but they call it spina bifida, that's the common.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I got a, I have a, uh, I got a mild case of it. And uhm.


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[Assistant] So I was blessed to be able to do a lot more shit and be a lot more


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[Assistant] So I was like, why the fuck not? Like, this is way easier, you know? So uhm, it's, uh, yeaah, it's just, uhm, I was diagnosed at birth, uhm, and the funny thing is, uh, the doctor, like, when I came out, the doctor, he told, he looked at my parents and told them that


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[Assistant] Uh, I was gonna be a vegetable and that I wouldn't be able to do anything.


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[Assistant] And my dad, my mom told me that my dad actually, like, knocked the doctor out, like, right then, like. What? Knocked him out?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I found that out last year, well, like early in the year. I didn't really mention it to anybody. I wasn't like sad, but I was just like...


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah, by me, it didn't really fuck with me cause I rock with my mom. I'm a mama's boy. So when my mom was like, you know, time to go, I was like,


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[Assistant] Hashtag single black moms, you know, baby mamas. I love y'all. I fuck with y'all.


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[Assistant] He's fine, cause he's just totally like, like,


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[Assistant] From niggas who know, like, what he did at an industry standpoint. Like, that nigga did some fly shit to the label. He fucked them up, yeaah.


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[Assistant] That's like the whole like, I mean, at least like right now, it don't really happen. I'm older. I could project myself a different way. Right. But as a kid, it always came off like the helpless, you know, like, and I'm like more fit than like


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[Assistant] I have done a lot of drugs in my day, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] I mean, Michael Phelps is an Olympian gold medal goddamn champion. This nigga, like, he be, he a white boy hitting a super bomb, you know what I'm saying? That's like a different level of, like, yeaah.


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[Assistant] No, you've got to bro. Especially like if you like, cause some people like,


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[Assistant] Some people trip to just feel good and like they don't want to sit there and


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[Assistant] That shit was enough for me. I had to, I got locked up for two weeks. That shit was not a move.


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[Assistant] Just a general like scene. Yeah, it wasn't even a, it wasn't a, it was just, I was just in this like, you know, it was like a, like


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[Assistant] Beatmakers, you know what I'm saying, hip-hop heads, shit like that, like, you know what niggas would say like.


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[Assistant] You know, I was living in like East Point, like on Washington Road at the time, uh, with my girl at the time, uhm.


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[Assistant] And uh, I mean, it wasn't like the worst hood in the world, but like, it was like,


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[Assistant] You know, in that kind of area, like, of music, like,


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[Assistant] Uh, beat battles and shit, like, you know what I'm saying? I was winning beat battles, making, like, my little name, like,


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[Assistant] I didn't even think I was doing shit at the time, but niggas still come up to me to this day like-


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[Assistant] We was at this little show at a new era store in Atlanta, and he was there with Fat, and uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, we should like make music and shit. So I'm like, yeah, bet. You know, like, so me and Keith was already making music a lot of the time and he was like, all right, we finna go make music with Fat at his place in Buckhead.


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[Assistant] It was this little like project building called the Darlington.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in this beautiful white ass neighborhood, like super luxurious, nice ass neighborhood, but it's a fucking.


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[Assistant] Project building in the middle of this nice neighborhood is so weird, like, and uh,


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[Assistant] It's geared towards like old ass people, crazy people and like college students and shit, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] No, at least not to our knowledge. He was doing it secretively. He was kind of writing his little verses, uhm, and


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[Assistant] So, you know, uhm, me and Keith, you know, we kicking it there, we like, yo, we,


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[Assistant] Like, we both homeless at the time basically, so he like, yo, just stay here with me, like. You were sleeping on people's couches and shit? Pretty much, yea. Like, uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like luckily I was blessed to have a lot of cool, cool ass people who like, who fuck with me and like,


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[Assistant] Made sure that my survival was like, inevitable, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Yeah man, it's weird, like, even going back to like, you know, talking with a disability and shit, and like, people like...


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[Assistant] The way I carry myself in the situations I would be in, you know, like, you know, like I'm in high school, like.


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[Assistant] It, uh, like, fucking like, little like,


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[Assistant] Like, super white kid, frat party, like, weird god damn, like, kids are getting paddled, we're playing beer pong, like, and like, niggas like, love me, you know what I'm saying? Like, any situation, it was always like that, like, when it wasn't on some, like,


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[Assistant] Like, you know, like some, some weird awkward situation, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's always been two extremes, like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, or they were like, you know, like, but I, I, the latter I didn't really encounter like that. It's only been a few people that have like, just have shown that they like,


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[Assistant] Didn't like me or some shit or like just my disability was like, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] I mean the world has been a cruel place, don't get me wrong, and, like, but that's the cool part, that shit, like, I love that, that shit help with everything, you know, me, me surfing couches for a minute, me, like, I, I


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[Assistant] Awful records wouldn't exist had that not happened. You know, a lot of shit in my life.


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[Assistant] Had I not went through that struggle, like, you know what I'm saying? And uhm, yeah, I was like, I mean, I was staying, uhm, really, I had just like,


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[Assistant] I just got out this crazy relationship with this girl, like, she went sour, like, she was going crazy telling me she was gonna...


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[Assistant] Tell them I'm trapping at her mom's house and shit, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, helping pay their rent and shit like, so I'm like, fuck this, I'm finna leave.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, of course. Yeaah, nah, I don't, I don't tell lies bro, like, uh, yeaah, nah, like, I mean,


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[Assistant] I, like, and, like, I had it, like, I had, I had my little disability check, which is, like, $500.


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[Assistant] You know, shit going sour with this girl, I'm like, yo, fuck this, I'm just finna- I'm finna just-


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[Assistant] Fuck it, I don't know what I'm finna do. Like, and luckily like,


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[Assistant] Not even luckily, just like, the universe bro like, that shit guided me to places like,


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[Assistant] To like, you know, my homie, like I reunited with my old homies and like this nigga like let me stay with him and then that's when I ran into Fet and then I was like,


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[Assistant] You know, like, we just kinda- I was there a lot, you know? And we was- and it's not like I was there and like-


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[Assistant] Uhm, no, it was like a few months before like we, me and Keith had started writing an album there and then that's when FAT kinda came out and was like, yo, I think I wanna make music.


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[Assistant] But I'm not sure, so me and Keev was like, alright nigga, like record this verse on this song, we're gonna put it on our album. And...


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[Assistant] I was like, man, keep, keep rapping, man. Keep doing this shit, bro. You know what I'm saying? And like a few months after that, uhm, we're leaving there.


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[Assistant] And me and Keefer get in an apartment to compensate him taking care of us basically. So we move into West End in Atlanta, uhm, like Pittsburgh, this little community called Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] We had this little like loft apartment and shit and he starts making beats there and


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[Assistant] Like, I remember the day I told this nigga, I was like, bro, like, he played me, like, his first beat that he made and I was like, nigga, like, if you keep doing this shit, like,


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[Assistant] You will become that nigga at that shit. And like, literally like, not even two years later, this nigga, like, he blew the fuck up. You know what I'm saying? Like, and...


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[Assistant] That's the kind of shit that I credit myself for and not even like the credit to say that


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[Assistant] I told another nigga he was fine before he was fine or I helped another nigga. It's the fact that I like...


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[Assistant] I know how strong my mind is and I can look at somebody and say, you know, this, this, yeaah, you know, yeaah, that's, that's, that's what I really fuck with, you know, so.


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[Assistant] I- I always think that shit's like real cool, like, I- I- I just, like,


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[Assistant] I really consider, sometimes, most of the time I consider myself an A&R, like, more than anything, like, I just like, seeking people out, you know, like same with him, like,


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[Assistant] Like, bro, like, you gotta understand the shit that this nigga used to do, like, I can't even, like, mention, bro, this nigga has-


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[Assistant] Then some crazy shit, and I was just like, it came to a point where I was like, bruh, you, like,


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[Assistant] I literally like, he was like, he, he, same thing happened to him. He was kind of going through a tough spot and he was like, yo, can I stay with you? And I was staying with Narf at the time.


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[Assistant] And, um, my two other shorties, uh, my two good friends, um, and I was like, yes, nigga.


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[Assistant] I don't even, I don't even know, like, he just, he was like, alright, I'ma figure this out, and then, like,


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[Assistant] He just like, figured out what Twitter was, like he didn't even have a Twitter, he just, he's like, you know what, I'm finna do this, and then he just like, immediately, it was, it was some shit like, yo, what the fuck is this, like, like,


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[Assistant] Some wild shit that like, you might be like, woo, like it's still like, haha, like niggas, you're crazy as fuck, like what, like you're the only th-


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[Assistant] I was fast forward, uhm, you know, awful starts, all this shit pops off.


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[Assistant] A good homie of mine, he's an OG in the Atlanta music game, Kosher Beats.


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[Assistant] Uh, a lot of the rap game, uh, recording music, like, at a professional level, uhm, cause it had a-


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[Assistant] That a nice little like 50k studio in their basement.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm recording with them, basically living in their basement. It's like an apartment, basically. It's like a room and then like a studio. So I'm in there just leveling up, like getting my shit together.


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[Assistant] Selling weed to, like, the local community in the area and shit and-


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[Assistant] One of my little homies who used to hang out with us.


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[Assistant] Back in the Yellow Wolf days at the skateboard shop in Sandy Springs, uh, he was like,


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[Assistant] He was a young kid at the time, like 14, and we just took him in and like raised him basically. And like, uh, name is Johnny, you know, he's making moves in the music industry, you know, he's a good kid. But uh, he, he, he pretty much hit me up one day and he was like, yo, uh, I got this, I got my homie, like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, like, we finna come buy some weed and shit, but...


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[Assistant] We also, like, I want you to listen to this nigga music, man. I want you to record him. And he was, and you know, he stressed, he was like,


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[Assistant] You know man, I know you that nigga bro, like I know, like you gotta understand, I wouldn't bring nobody or no bullshit to your spot, you know what I'm saying, like.


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[Assistant] Johnny was 14 in the yellow days. Okay. This is like, uh, 2000.


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[Assistant] It's like early, like late 2013, early 2014. So cardio's like 16, 17 at a time.


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[Assistant] He, uh, he's like, yeah, we finna come through, uhm, just, just fuck with this nigga, man, fuck with this nigga. So I'm like, alright, man, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Like, he come through and like, uhm, yeah, it was just like,


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[Assistant] They come in, you know, we chillin', smokin' and shit, and I'm just like peepin' Cardi vibe, and like, he already like a, he's like a young nigga, like, he knew he was finna be a star, he like, yeah man, like,


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Like, but he was real, you know, he cool. He, he's like a real chill, respectable person to the right people. You know what I'm saying? And uhm,


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[Assistant] He, you know, he introduces himself as shit and he was just like, yo man, I just wanna like...


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[Assistant] I went to like play some of my shit and he played me, uh, at the time he played me Young Xanho when I was just like, I was just like, god damn bro.


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[Assistant] Nah, nah, nah. Nah, that's actually a beat I can say I wish I made. Like, that's a fire, that's a beat. But, uh, yeaah, uhm, I was listening to that shit and I'm just like, yo.


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[Assistant] I would be stupid to not work with this kid, bro. Like he's too, yeah. I mean, they had like a hundred K on Soundcloud at the time. And he's in high school, like, so he booming. He that nigga in high school, like he booming, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, yeah, man, I'm finna put this nigga on like,


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[Assistant] Exactly. You need direction when you're that young especially. You need direction bro, cause I, it is so many, it is so many times I fucked up. You know what I'm saying? But that was, that was,


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[Assistant] Uhm, so yeaah, he played me that song, I'm like, yo nigga, yeaah, you, you fire as fuck, like, alright, let's, let's make some music. So, uhm, I'm like, I'm like, I'm finna make a beat for you, you know what I'm sayin', and...


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[Assistant] So I'm like, I'm starting to make this like trap shit and he like...


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[Assistant] He like, yeah man, no disrespect bro, but like, I want you to make that shit, like,


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[Assistant] I don't wanna rap on that shit. Like I came to you to rap on some shit. Like you be rapping on some different shit. And that shit like really made me respect him even more. And uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, he had the balls to stop me, like, like, this nigga who's supposed, like, he's like, I'm an OG in his eyes at the time, like, I'm like, oh shit, like, he's like, yo, I can't even believe I'm in this nigga's house, like, and like,


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[Assistant] Alright, whatever. But I made a little beat for him in like five minutes and he murked that shit. That was lost. That's the first song we ever made together. And uhm, yeaah, he killed that shit, man.


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[Assistant] I'ma put you on and like, like, look out for you, make sure that you not just out here, like, you know, like, I'ma, like, because...


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[Assistant] I had the opportunity to like, blow, like, overnight, but, like,


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[Assistant] I knew a lot of shit, but I didn't know a lot of shit, so I didn't do it.


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[Assistant] Del Oof at the time was going to start a record label called Slamerican. Right. And uhm,


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[Assistant] I was going to like, Treesound and hanging with him and like, KP Prether and shit like that, like real like, like,


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? KB probably put a motherfucking T.I. on and shit. Like, I'm in the studio with this nigga and this nigga telling me like,


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[Assistant] Yo, you're tight, but if you wanna blow up, you gotta make this. The music you playing for us right now.


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[Assistant] It's cool, but it's trash. Like you can't, you know what I'm saying? He said that to me and I'm like, I'm like,


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[Assistant] 20, like, I'm like, uuuh, like, trying not to fucking cry, like, I'm like high and shit, I'm like, I didn't expect this nigga to tell me my music suck, like, he's like, nah, we fuck with it, but like, you can't make money off this shit, you can't sell this shit type shit.


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[Assistant] So I really, I don't know, I just like, I had to digress a little bit. The point I was trying to make is like, that


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[Assistant] I wanted to give this nigga the opportunity like, alright, when you get to these


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[Assistant] These places and shit, I don't want you to get jammed up cause...


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[Assistant] Yo, Mick sucked. Right. Cause you wasn't recorded correctly. Right. Or you don't know how to record correctly. You know what I'm saying? And so we was just working on...


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[Assistant] Working on all kinds of shit like that music, like just recording hella songs and shit like, uhm. Who got beef with me?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I pretty much recorded like everything up to that time, like to the point where he, uh,


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[Assistant] He's, uh, started getting prospected by, uh, AWGE. Right. And, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, like, I mean, that, like, I love to see this nigga, like.


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[Assistant] Just made me feel good to see this nigga up there, like, cause that's, that's the route he wanted to take, and that's what he wanted to do, like, you know what I'm saying? And he did that shit.


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[Assistant] Yeah man, he came up real punk, like, like the first shows we threw for him, like, people went crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Yeah, the first shows we ever did like, uh, like awful sweaters and shit like that, like, were just nuts, like.


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[Assistant] Oh, at SOBs, yeaah, uhm, I wasn't at that one, uhm, but that shit was...


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[Assistant] That was his first out of state big show and like, that's when, like, the, the New York


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[Assistant] And like, that shit was just cool, man.


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[Assistant] That's, that's, that's, that's what I told him when he came to me is like,


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[Assistant] I was like, bro, if you wanna be a star, I'll help you do that shit. He was like, yeaah. And I was like, alright.


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[Assistant] Like even when they, even, even when I met them in each of their respective times and they thought that I was this really cool, crazy, like,


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[Assistant] Motherfucker with the music, like, to myself I was like, nigga, I'm still not shit.


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[Assistant] I can just help you, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Some- like some really grey rappers in a game have like-


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[Assistant] I fell to jealousy and envy and it's like, how am I gonna get jealous of a nigga that I just told?


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[Assistant] Hey, I'm going to help you do this. It wasn't, hey, I'm going to help you do this and I'm going to ride your coattails or hey, I'm going to help you do this and I'm going to be the P Diddy.


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[Assistant] That's what I told this nigga, I was like, nigga, I know I can manifest with a lot of shit. I can make my mind do a lot of shit.


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[Assistant] I'll help make you a star, nigga. Like, I don't want to be a star yet. I still a lot of, like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, we, we inevitably want to build awful into something like that, like we want to become a machine that like, we can sign artists and then...


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[Assistant] Really, and Rich Poe, he's, he's got the crazy eye for people too as well, and uhm, and he's just a...


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[Assistant] So like, we would definitely want to air in our, like, kids and shit like that, at a, at some point down the line, yeaah. We just want to make sure that this shit is stable, like, and that...


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[Assistant] You know, like, our money's stable before we start trying to sell somebody else a dream and then like,


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[Assistant] You know, fuck them up or some shit, you know what I'm saying? So, at the most part, right now, we just, like,


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[Assistant] People that are close to us, we're bringing them in and like vetting them basically, you know what I'm saying? Right. And uhm, and it's going good man.


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[Assistant] Right before, like about a year before I met Cardi, uhm, is when we like officially started, like, you know,


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[Assistant] We had, I produced an album for her and put that out in, in like, I mean, when I first met her, like her, the first time she sang for me in person was like,


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[Assistant] I was like, god fucking damn, like, oh my, jesus christ, you know, like, and uhm.


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[Assistant] We had known each other since like 2012, like on the internet and shit, a little bit before that maybe. But uhm, I met her, produced her album and...


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[Assistant] And I immediately just felt like I would rather put my time into like that, you know what I'm saying? Again, just like with Fat and Cardi, like.


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[Assistant] With her is really a lot more hands on too, like, like.


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[Assistant] A step up from Cardi, like I'm really producing everything.


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[Assistant] Recording and mixing everything to a T and like helping her like release it like, but she writes everything.


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[Assistant] Uhm, she engineers herself for the most part.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Cardi was really the only one after her that I was like, oh yeah, you know, I'll, I'll take you on and help you out. But like, I met her and I was like, yeah, like this is what I need to spend my time doing.


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[Assistant] Fuck rap, you know what I'm saying? Like, I wanna like, produce this kind of shit, like, you know, like,


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[Assistant] This is gonna make us both a lot of fucking money, like, at the end of the day, you know? Right. And so...


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[Assistant] Uhm, she got an album dropping in January, when I'm dropping my album, uhm, we're gonna drop them, uhm, they're gonna be like,


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[Assistant] The second and third official releases on Awful Records. Narf was the first with Witchcraft. And then it's gonna be her with Cut A Cloth. And then me with my album Mankind. And uhm, yea, major distribution, like,


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[Assistant] They're gonna be everywhere, big push, like crazy shit, like, I'm excited man, yeaah. The album is fucking crazy, I mean both of our shits. Uh, yeaah. Yeaah, we got both of them finished. Yeaah. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're fucking, they're fine, man. I'm excited to drop some music, actually. I kinda took the year off, uhm.


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[Assistant] I would answer some fans' questions I know they wanted to know. I think I'm on fire 3. I'm dropping that like, at the end of this year sometime.


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[Assistant] That's uh, that's, that's like kinda like what you have to do to be a candidate for president. You gotta be able to, they gonna make you do whatever the fuck they want.


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[Assistant] Oh no, I wouldn't sign up to lead a massive group of people.


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[Assistant] Like, bro, I don't even plan my day. I can't plan a country. Like, nigga, what? Like, that's impossible. I would tell them, honestly, if I was president, I would say, hey y'all, I'm not fucking president. Y'all go do


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[Assistant] What the fuck y'all want, but let me put y'all on some resources before I release y'all. Let me tell y'all some real nigga shit, and then I'll keep everybody in...


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[Assistant] The convention center and I'll keep the TV rolling for the next 48 hours and I would just disclose everything.


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[Assistant] Some shit that happened with your dad, other than that.


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[Assistant] I think it's cause we, we abuse like, you know, you see so many people who just...


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[Assistant] From the 19- from 1976, we developed menthol to kill black people.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, the U.S. pretty much developed eugenics, so we, like, Robert Bushberger was...


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[Assistant] Go in a bitch pussy and make a point and really wall out and really like, windmill and windmill. You take that shit and you like, yeaah, I'm feeling that shit.


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[Assistant] Full hour boner. That's like my worst nightmare. It's like, I think my worst nightmare is being like in the middle of like New York City where you can't find a bathroom and I have to take a dump and I have a boner.


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[Assistant] You're not gonna believe this. I took acid and walked from Prospect Park in Brooklyn all the way up


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[Assistant] Half a tecate, two ounces of vodka.


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[Assistant] For having him, you know, come up and be like, hey bro, like, like, you need to do this. You know what I mean? Like, you need to take, cause he saw, you know, I've been the same person


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[Assistant] Right. I almost, it, it's almost, and I know, I mean, I know that there's a project on the way. Yes. You know what I mean? But from, from me meeting him and like seeing his trajectory, I'm almost like, like, fuck man, I just, I just want it for him right now. Cause he's such a fucking rock star. Like he really is. But that's the rock star


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[Assistant] Like, people are saying he's on some, like, some modern, like, minor threat, like,


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[Assistant] And I would make sure that every black person in America loves Donald Trump. Bye.


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[Assistant] Listen, every race has very weak sensibilities. Right. No matter what race it is, they have a sensibility, they have a string on their guitar that you can touch, and they will instantly love you. Uh huh.


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[Assistant] And it doesn't matter whether it's Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Jackie Chan, fucking Kim Jong Il, any person on this planet can do


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[Assistant] A few things where black people would be like- I don't think Donald Trump can recover. Donald Trump can't recover, absolutely not.


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[Assistant] The smartest sociologist hired in the Pentagon who can really be like, oh, we need to make Donald Trump look more competent to black people, so.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? That's just the way it is. And that's probably what's gonna happen over the next year. I can honestly predict that there will be a honest movement to make it more acceptable.


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[Assistant] I'm talking about the Melania speech. What was that? Where he said, uh, he said, uh, you know,


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[Assistant] You know, he, someone fed him, of course, this like, back, this like, reverse psychology joke where it's like,


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[Assistant] I already see how biased the media is towards these liberals. You know, Michelle Obama gives this speech.


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[Assistant] And then my wife Melania gives the exact same speech.


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[Assistant] I'm Stephen from PM Lesson. I'm here with Sushant. Uhm, Sushant, why don't you go ahead and


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[Assistant] It's great that you got the Google offer and you're really excited to join and I'm sure you did really great things during your interview to land that. So it'll be great for everyone listening in to kind of hear from that experience.


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[Assistant] Uhm, generally just to give the audience a sense of what we're doing here, we're doing a PM lesson live mock interview.


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[Assistant] Where I interview, uh, folks and we use it as an educational session. I'm going to interview Sushant and then give him some feedback after so you can get a sense of that. Uhm, but Sushant obviously has been doing a great job at interviews. Congratulations Sushant. Uhm, and so it'll be a great


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[Assistant] Opportunity to see how Sushant also thinks through these kinds of questions.


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[Assistant] Uhm, cool. Well, Sushant, do you have any questions or comments before we jump in? No, uhm, I'm ready to get it started.


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[Assistant] Alright, cool. So the first question, uh, that I wanted to ask you, uh, was if you were the product manager for WhatsApp, how would you improve?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I would like you to define it, but if I had to lean somewhere with the opportunities that you listed, I would say that monetization is not one of our current goals right now. We're still in the phase of growing and getting user engagement.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I would like you to define the target segment, uh, for improving WhatsApp. Uh, WhatsApp is obviously clearly a very global, uhm, company and product, so I would like to see, you know, maybe how you think about it, and I'm happy to nudge you in the right direction throughout the interview.


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[Assistant] Great, so we're going to focus on user engagement for the purpose of this question and in terms of how to improve that as our goal.


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[Assistant] And again, for those who are just joining in, uh, thanks for coming onto the session. You are more than encouraged to comment, to give thoughts, to give reactions. It helps us as we go through the interview. So if you are watching, please, uh, please do comment and...


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[Assistant] So you are strongly, strongly encouraged, uh, I see the four of you who are currently watching in to kind of, uh, participate. And I think some more will trickle in as the session goes on.


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[Assistant] Uhm, no, so it sounds like we enumerated some options, which is great. Uhm, we identified kind of the various aspects of each and we're going ahead with picking the elderly segments. We're focusing on, uh, specifically that segment, that customer segment in terms of how we're going to think about improving WhatsApp.


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[Assistant] Cool, sounds great. Uhm, let's, yeaah, let's dive a little bit deeper into elderly, into the elderly population segment. Uhm, and yeaah, I'd love to, I'd love for you to also kind of tell me a little bit more about some ideas you have and a product vision that you have around how we would improve it or what, what kind of


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[Assistant] What is the vision of this improvement? Is it a feature, you know, regardless of whether or not it's a feature or a product, I'd like to just see kind of your product vision thinking here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, sure. Uhm, but feel free to take your time to think if you need some time.


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[Assistant] So overall, I mean, you know, it sounds like we're, we're understanding the pain points of expressing themselves, uhm, understanding conversational details.


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[Assistant] And, and storing that information in a great way and then also kind of the pain points of


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[Assistant] Uhm, connecting with younger audiences. Uhm, I'm curious if you feel, and, you know, and a great product vision, I understand it, and we're gonna, we're gonna dive into that a little bit deeper in just a moment, but I'm just curious, like, you know, on the pain point of younger audiences and older audiences not understanding each other,


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[Assistant] Just a part of you feel like, you know, that's kind of by design, like younger people use acronyms and emojis to kind of avoid being understood by their parents or to invent a new language. And how do you feel like that plays into kind of the product that you're describing right now? Does that make sense? Does that question make sense?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and they also just like, they don't want it. Like, if you think of children, uhm, you don't want to be seen by your parents. Like, you don't want your parents to understand you. You kind of want to like, be on a platform like,


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[Assistant] Instagram and not have your parents around or not have older people around.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and it's sort of like a, there's sort of a maybe a tension between these two generations in terms of


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[Assistant] Uhm, younger people don't like it when older people are kind of like polluting the space. And I'm just curious like how you see this, you know, like younger audiences might continue to use confusing acronyms that your algorithm or your assistant may not be able to decipher easily because younger people keep using these new trends and new terms.


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[Assistant] Uhm, do you see, like, any resistance from the younger audiences to being understood by the older audiences in this platform? Or, I just would love for your thoughts on that as it relates to your product vision.


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[Assistant] Cool, uhm, great answer to kind of an off, out there question. So uhm, it sounds like we're gonna, you know, tie back to the broader vision of WhatsApp, which is that the point of WhatsApp isn't really as much about


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[Assistant] This kind of, uh, Instagram-y, like, teenager kind of, uh, social sphere that's isolated from older adults. And also just like, you know, being able to connect across generations seems like a really cool value prop.


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[Assistant] I want to get into the product itself and this conversational assistant that you're suggesting. And I want to kind of hammer out what that actually looks like. Can you take us through maybe a user journey of what using that conversational assistant might look like?


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[Assistant] And again, for those of you watching, this is a pmlesson.com live mock interview. I am here, I'm Steven and I'm interviewing Sushant. Sushant got the Google offer, so we are kind of learning from his perspective on how to


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[Assistant] Go through these PM interviews, uhm, I'm taking notes on, we'll be giving feedback towards the end of the session as well. You are more than welcome slash encouraged to chime in, uhm, specifically doing, posting some comments. In the comments below, you can post some follow up questions for Sushant and I'll ask them.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Anuj already has posted one, so thank you Anuj for doing that.


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[Assistant] And you're encouraged to react and to, uh, kind of play along in this experience as we go through it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and yeah, and, and, uh, we hope that this is an educational and helpful tool for you as you go through your PM interviews.


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[Assistant] Interesting ideas. My first reaction, and I'm curious...


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[Assistant] As effectively as younger adults already we've already identified that as kind of one of the pain points, right? And now we're introducing new features and new things into the chat conversation. How are you going to balance this as a PM of introducing new features versus confusing the interface even more for an already confused audience?


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[Assistant] Great, uhm, I have one follow-up question, and then we're gonna get it to the audience, uh, comments and questions. So audience, please, uh, comment away with any follow-up questions that you may have.


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[Assistant] My last question, uhm, what trade-offs do you see in this, uhm, uh, kind of area? And I know you've written a blog post for PM Lesson about trade-offs and about how they're really important to a PM interview. Uhm, so I'm sure you've already thought of some, but I'd love to hear your perspective on some trade-offs or some pitfalls that might appear when designing a feature like this.


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[Assistant] Cool, uhm, okay, overall, excellent job with this interview, uhm, we're gonna kick it to feedback soon and I'm gonna kind of...


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[Assistant] Uhm, walk through some feedback while also asking you some follow-up questions. We have three follow-up questions from our audience right now, so I just want to kind of shoot them at you and I hope you're ready for the whole audience to interview you and you're doing a great job, so I think it'll be great to get your perspective.


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[Assistant] So the first, the first question that, uhm, Alex, uh, Lee brought up that I think is a really good question to follow up right now is how will you deal with these pitfalls that you just raised? So are there some initial maybe ideas? We don't have to get into it too much, but just in maybe a minute or so, how would you address some of the major pitfalls that you just identified?


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[Assistant] Cool. Uhm, great answer to that question. And I'll, I'll just kind of start chiming in alongside you, Sushant, uhm, as we go through these and the audience can, is also starting to ask and audience feel free to ask questions just generally for advice or this can kind of be a little bit of a Q&A session as well with me and Sushant to answer those questions.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think that's a great, uh, perspective. I think one area that I would definitely emphasize is I really like that point about if you're suggesting something like an emotion or if you're doing something that's that heavy weight,


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[Assistant] You really want to be positive that that's the right experience and you want to give an escape hatch to users to get out of that experience. So let's say that it's wrong that users can turn that off. You can just say like X like this is wrong or like don't show me this again. This is really annoying.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because any time that we try to kind of guess at a user's intentions, we just want to be really, really confident about it.


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[Assistant] And I think that that I think that the second piece of this is which is just really important for your product overall is the clarity and they're like not confusing the users is really important print design principle for this product.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so being sure that we can focus on that and, you know, reduce clutter on the page as much as possible when we make these decisions. I think that's a good one of these kind of goalposts that you can use to decide how to prioritize or how to make decisions on these products or features.


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[Assistant] Uhm, cool. So there's a couple other, uhm, questions. So Anuj asked the question, what would a North Star metric be for improving engagement for these elderly people, let's say with this product? So what is maybe


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[Assistant] A North Star metric or a metric that you think is really important, uh, that you would double down and look at, uh, for this product. And we can do it quickly. It doesn't have to be a perfect answer because I know we're, we're kind of, uh, following up really quickly after.


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[Assistant] Well, yeaah, I think that's a great start and I think, you know, we could talk, we could do a whole interview question just on the metrics for this product. So uhm, you know, it's a great question Anuj and we'll, we would love to do more on that, but I think that's just the sense or flavor of how you go about it.


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[Assistant] I also posted in the comments below a link to Sushant's blog post, so go ahead and check it out. It's all about trade-offs and how to use them from a very tactical level in your PM interview, and I think it's a great read. I'm gonna keep going through some of these questions. Rashmi, I think I answered your question a little bit earlier, but feel free to clarify if I didn't.


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[Assistant] Ankur, uh, we have a ques- so Ankur has a last question, and let's do this as the last interview question before I do some feedback, uhm, and then we can jump into a casual FAQ kind of session.


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[Assistant] Uhm, or, or Q&A session. Uh, Ankur asked, will suggestions change from person to person, depending on who, with whom you are talking to? Will it customize for your different friends?


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[Assistant] Well, yep, I think that's totally the right answer and it should totally be customized and personalized, especially in the messaging platform.


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[Assistant] Alright, well, Sushant, thank you so much again for, for doing this. I'm gonna jump into feedback. You're still not, uh, free yet. Um, and just give you some thoughts. Overall, I just wanted to say you totally crushed that. That was a great set of answers and I thought you really thought through it really well, so.


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[Assistant] Excellent job and great example to the audience on uhm, what a great PM interview looks like and how to go about thinking about that.


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[Assistant] So I'm going to go through kind of the interview chronologically and highlight areas that I thought you did really well and areas where I thought that we may have been able to spend more time or improve that particular answer.


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[Assistant] In the very beginning, this is a really small thing, but we enumerated kind of the list of segments that we were considering. Children, seniors, encrypted messages, et cetera.


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[Assistant] And uh, one piece of advice for all PM interviewees is that enumerating the options is really helpful. And you did go through the enumeration of the options, but especially on a thing like a phone call interview,


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[Assistant] It helps to do something called the triangle method, uhm, where you kind of say the options in the beginning. You can say, my options are one, children, two seniors, three encrypted messages.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then you go through all of them, and then at the end you say, in summary, my options were one,


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[Assistant] of a suggestion for all people watching, and I think, you know, it's...


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's good, and that's a great user segment that you know. Uhm, and if you don't, it might be helpful, and you think you might use that in an interview, it might be helpful to read a little bit about the user segment, to understand their needs, understand kind of a little bit more about them. Otherwise, we get to, like, sometimes in these questions, and I think we didn't do it here, but sometimes


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[Assistant] In these questions where we talk about elderly people or children, we get to very kind of like stereotypical views of them as users. And there are still a lot of different kinds of people, a lot of different kinds of ages. Elderly people is a very, you could be talking about 80 plus or 60 plus or, you know, who knows what segment you're actually talking about. So I think, uhm, understanding those user segments, if you


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[Assistant] See, realize that you're picking them a lot is really important and there are resources and books online and platforms that are currently targeted to those audiences that you might want to look into.


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[Assistant] One of the, the reason I say this is one of the key insights, is that elderly people don't like being called elderly people, or like, uhm, it's kind of like, there were many times in history where products tried to release products that were like,


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[Assistant] Blank for seniors or blank for, you know, older adults and it ended up being a flop because who wants to buy that? Like who wants to go into a grocery store and buy a product that like says that you're a senior? Uhm, so that's kind of the user empathy piece.


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[Assistant] But overall, I thought this was great, and I think that uhm, you know, it ended up being that the product we suggested sounded like a product that even I would be down to use. Uhm, like it sounded like the product could end up targeting a wider demographic, so I thought that was really great.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I love that you did the pain points. I, I tried to push you a little bit towards the product vision earlier and you were like, no, no, no, I want to do the pain points first. Awesome. Like, totally steer the interview the way that you feel like it should go. Uhm, obviously if I gave you more pressure, then maybe you'd


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[Assistant] user segments, pain points, uhm, brainstorming solutions, giving a product that vision that actually stuck with me, uhm, and then moving forward. So I thought that was


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[Assistant] Awesome. And the product vision was great. A product vision of kind of assistance, giving this assistant in your chat. Assistants are very popular nowadays, of course. Uhm, but targeting a specific user segment, I thought, made it a novel concept and made it a new concept that was really great. Uhm, I think that


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[Assistant] In general, I love that you tied things back to the broader vision of WhatsApp when I asked that follow-up question. Uhm, and I think just in general, kind of,


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[Assistant] Uh, one recommendation is that I felt like, again, since we didn't define the user segment as well, we don't know the user segment as well, we weren't able to, to develop features that were very specifically targeted to that user segment. Uhm, so if we can do it over again, I think one of the big pieces of advice is really understanding that segment more.


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[Assistant] You addressed the trade-offs really well. I think the failure thing is a really important piece. I was hoping you would mention something like that about how this is a really, you have to be very careful about doing this feature because we need like 99% accuracy if we're telling people how people feel. That's a pretty intimate, uh, statement to make.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then I thought that, you know, in general, you know, uh, my last piece of advice and I mentioned this before, but kind of, it, it seemed like a design principle emerged halfway through, which is like clarity and reducing clutter and like making things really an easy user interface. And I think that ties back to the original pain point.


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[Assistant] So just make sure, and I think it's a helpful exercise, that when you get the product at the end, to look back at the pain points that you identified and make sure that they're addressing them and make sure that they're not causing more pain points.


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[Assistant] And that'd just be a great way to also generate more trade-offs, which is like, okay, we developed this product, which addresses this piece, but it may exacerbate this other piece. And we should be very aware of that because we've already identified this pain point.


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[Assistant] But in general, we're just always tying things back to kind of what our original statements were about the pain points in the user segment.


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[Assistant] I'll pause there. That was most of the feedback that I had. Overall, like, super excellent interview and it was great to kind of do this with you and learn from your style and your answers. Did you have any reactions to the feedback that I just mentioned?


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[Assistant] I want to get to a couple questions on, uh, that Wenyu has asked that seem more general. And again, audience, thanks for being with us. Feel free to ask a couple follow up questions. I think we'll do about two to three total. Um, and then we'll, we'll, uh, leave the session.


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[Assistant] So I want to start with Wenyu's first question, which is, How to impress interviewers by asking good questions at the end of the interview? What questions do you suggest to ask?


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I'm curious, Sushant, I have some ideas too, and I can go first if you'd like, but I'm curious what your thoughts are on good questions that you end up asking to the interviewer at the end of the session.


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[Assistant] Uhm, cool. Yeaah, I totally agree with that one. Generally, I ask questions about kind of how decisions get made at the company. Specifically, I ask questions to the interviewer about their opinions about the product vision of the company. Uhm, and yeaah, there are a couple great questions that you can ask that


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[Assistant] I really hint at like areas that are hidden below the surface of the company. Uhm, and one recommendation in general is always to watch like the keynote or some kind of product vision presentation about the company before going there and then maybe having some opinions or thoughts or questions after that. Uhm,