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[Assistant] Derrick, uh, Derrick Foster is expected to join the Saints staff at the team's new running back coach, according to some reports. The news first broke by Max Zenitz of CBS and 24-7 Sports, then Nick Underhill.


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[Assistant] He did it. He's confirmed it and Foster has spent the last three seasons as a running backs coach of the Chargers. Prior to that, he was a running backs coach for the Iowa Hawkeyes for three years. He began his career as an offensive assistant.


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[Assistant] With the University of Tennessee in 2012. Those Tennessee ties, right?


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[Assistant] The Chargers ranked 25th in rushing production last year. They were 30th in the previous year in 21st and 21.


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[Assistant] Chargers running back Austin Echler is considered one of the league's top all purpose backs. It was instrumental for the Chargers passing attack. So we get this brother in here. Foster joins a revamp New Orleans offensive staff that still has openings at the wide receiver position as far as the coach is concerned.


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[Assistant] Kubiak is the new offensive coordinator, replacing long-time coordinator, Pete Carmichael. Andrew Gnokul will be the new QB coach, taking over for the departed Ronald Curry. John Benton takes over from Doug Marrone's place as the offensive line coach and only tight end coach Clancy Barone remains among the team's offensive position coaches.


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[Assistant] From a season ago, New Orleans ranked 21st in the Russian yardage last season, 31st in Russian yards per carry.


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[Assistant] And of course, Alvin Kamara's arguably NFL's more versatile back.


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[Assistant] Jamal Williams had a choir year after coming over from Detroit as a free agent, but was a.


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[Assistant] Uh, 100 yard rusher and laid the NFL in touchdowns.


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[Assistant] A thousand yard rusher and led the NFL in touchdowns in 2022.


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[Assistant] Rookie third round pick Kendra Miller was injured much of the year, but showed some explosive potential.


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[Assistant] Down the stretch. So shout out to Bob Rose. He wrote this article here.


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[Assistant] And talked about Derek Foster being added to the team. Now, let's give, let me kind of share with you guys, uh, Mr. Foster some, uh, let you hear his words and his perspective on the NFL. I'll give you a few minutes of.


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[Assistant] Derrick Foster being interviewed on, this is Austin Eckler as y'all recognize, Austin has a, his own YouTube platform.


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[Assistant] And he interviews people, you know, so he has his own show and he brought his running back coach among other people on the show. But shout out to Brent says, I know I shouldn't, it shouldn't matter, but who's older Kubiak or Carr? Um, Kubiak is 36 years of age and Carr is 32. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just hope there's no respect issues. No, I don't think there'll be. Yeah, Kubiak is, uh, I think he was born in...


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[Assistant] 87, I remember trying to remember off the report, but uh, uh, I think he's 30. He's 36 years of age and cars 32. Thank you, Brent. Appreciate you for the super chat, my friend. All right. Here we going back to the show.


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[Assistant] Now Derek Foster is, this is a pretty, uh, interesting, it goes on for another four or five minutes, but this is a self-made guy. He talked about his father not being in the home.


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[Assistant] Uh, his motivation, why he got to where he is. You could talk about him working in the plant, in the factory.


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[Assistant] Ultimately taking a significantly lesser paying job because he talked about the equipment manager situation. He worked his way up from that to that. And it just is a testament about people who have a vision.


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[Assistant] Uh, up to into college rankings and then ultimately into the NFL. So.


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[Assistant] Man, don't tell me about, uh, not being able to accomplish things in life, man. This guy did it. You guys, uh, read on him. Check out, uh, Derek Foster, man.


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[Assistant] Pretty phenomenal coach, man, with a good philosophy of hard work and do really intelligent guy, man. And I'm just looking forward to see what he'll, what kind of, uh.


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[Assistant] When he brings to the Saints running back room, you know, we had a pretty good running backs coach for a long time, but getting Derek Foster to work with our running backs, man.


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[Assistant] That's going to be special and we have a pretty good group of running backs for AK 41.


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[Assistant] Uh, you got, uh, you got brother Williams, Dej Mall, you got, uh, Kendre Miller, and then whatever undrafted guys we bring along, man. So it's going to be fun watching him.


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[Assistant] With those guys. And of course, let's move on to the next when the Saints trying to get that wide receiver position field.


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[Assistant] In terms of the coach, Saints targeting Ravens assistant, Keith Williams for the wide receiver coach position. Another name to watch.


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[Assistant] Looking to replace Cody Burns. Williams spent the last three years in Baltimore, initially starting out as the team's pass game specialist before focusing.


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[Assistant] His work on the receiving core, but he's been in the game for a long time before coming to NFL. He coached at Nebraska two lane Fresno state working closely with Derek Carr.


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[Assistant] And Davante Adams early in their collegiate careers, circles always come back around. So you obviously have some familiarity with Carr.


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[Assistant] And new insight to bring to the culture staff. We'll see if the Saints are able to seal the deal and pull Williams away from Baltimore. So stay tuned. Kline Kubiak has checked.


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[Assistant] Most of the boxes and filling out his new look offensive coaching staff will receive the coach being the last major spot to field. So there you go. Keith Williams fam, Keith Williams.


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[Assistant] And also just, uh, just to you guys will know, let me share. This is Keith Williams right here. Let me give you a little bit of his philosophy and what he's talking about as well. This could potentially be your new wide receiver coach, man. We'll know momentarily soon.


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[Assistant] So this is the thing, uh, the guy obviously, uh, in his spare time worked for kids and he does a lot of positive stuff as well. So this is the kind of, uh, people.


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[Assistant] That you incorporate into your offense, people that are community or environment.


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[Assistant] Like he may mention himself work with guys who want to get better, they want to, you know, develop their games.


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[Assistant] So this is a guy that could potentially be in there also, they negotiating and talking to him right now. We should know something about this fairly soon. Okay, so.


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[Assistant] That's a, that's a couple of things I have for you guys and I'm probably going to stop on that man as we get ready to kind of get out of the stream. I don't want to keep you guys too late, but if you guys have any quick questions, please feel free to throw them in the chat before we get ready to jerk out of this thing, man. But listen, listen, the staff is coming together.


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[Assistant] Uh, they're putting it together. As a matter of fact, let me show this to you guys. Once again, as you can see, this is kind of the list of things right here. Clint Kubiak is the O.C. Andrew Janoko.


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[Assistant] Uh, and like I said, that's the last of the really


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[Assistant] Big names is, is Williams and of course they'll finish, finish the, uh, filling the assistant, uh, underneath those guy like the QB assistant.


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[Assistant] Or, you know, uh, the rest of them and, uh, another offensive line assistant and the senior assistant.


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[Assistant] Notice that is a to be determined situation. The senior assistant. Aha. That could possibly be, you know who, but we won't know that until.


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[Assistant] Pretty much later on in the game, you know what I'm saying? Later on in the game, like after July.


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[Assistant] If there is such a thing with them, and even if we'll see what they do with that position, you know, if they kind of hold onto that and they not open that position right now, you know who they holding it for. That could be the final leg of it.


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[Assistant] With the OC being Clint and then of course the senior assistant being you know who. You know, so we'll see man, we'll see.


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[Assistant] Alright, what's up Colorado? How you doing fam? Pretty good, man. Bless, man. Feeling pretty good, man.


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[Assistant] Alright, shout out to the fam. What's up, Lil? Shout out to my brother Lil. What in the world, bro? How you doing, brother? Appreciate my dog Lil in the building.


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[Assistant] Hope everything going well with you out there, my friend. Jay Roddow says, thanks for putting out this content. Thank you. Thank you, sir, for, and you know, being here and, uh, spending some time with the fam. He says, was wondering what other coach hires was, was going to be who that? All right. Yeah, the, uh,


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[Assistant] Like we said, we make mention of the guy that just played Keith Williams as a report saying that he's there, the Saints want him.


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[Assistant] To be the wide receiver, uh, coach. And then after that is really just assistant positions like, uh, assistant, uh, offensive line coach, stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you got your OC, you got your QB coach.


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[Assistant] You will have the QB assistant. You have your running backs coach. You're working on your wide receivers coach.


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[Assistant] You got your tight end coach already. You got your offensive line coach. Well, you know, you got all these guys, the list is in front of you and then you got a few assistant positions left and then the big shoe to drop is the final one, which is the senior assistant. A lot of people believe that will ultimately be John Gruden. So, you know, that's the, we'll see how that all works out, man. All right. Anyway.


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's see what else. Anybody on any more questions before we get ready to derk out this thing?


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[Assistant] All right, Brian, you typing up a storm, brother. He says all these coaches that we're reacquiring for the Saints might be cool, but they have to do their job. They get this team to the next level into the Super Bowl. Uhm, there's never been in terms of, uh,


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[Assistant] But it's never been done and just because it never been done doesn't mean that it won't be done, but we all know why it never happened.


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[Assistant] You know, and that's just, it's just for the powers that be. It's not good business.


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[Assistant] You know, for that to happen, even when Tom Brady, when they had the super bowl in Tampa and Tom Brady was the quarterback of Tampa Bay, it didn't happen then.


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[Assistant] Right? Remember? I think he fell short in it. So like I said, I don't think that will happen for the Sinks this year.


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[Assistant] That's a lot to hang on to say that, okay, we're going to take the, the, the saints going to the super bowl. I just, and listen, I'm, I'm, I'm going to be positive about it as best as I can, but I'm also a realist, you know, and,


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[Assistant] They, you know, and I always play, you know, y'all know my song, I always play. They're going to have to show some stuff. They're going to have to show.


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[Assistant] Uh, me that they fixed a lot of stuff. I'm not going to just be buying into it, you know, and, and, you know, you got to save yourself for that. Don't be putting your...


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[Assistant] You're hard and all that stuff into it until these people show you that they serious about it. I have not.


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[Assistant] From what they've been showing me in terms of what I've seen over the last couple of years is that, you know,


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[Assistant] They do all the stuff in the off season to get you excited, but then when the on season start, they don't maintain the energy.


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[Assistant] You know, they don't put it all together and that's a consistent pattern.


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[Assistant] That I've seen happen. And then when stuff started breaking down, they don't want to fix it.


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[Assistant] They'll talk about fixing it, but they don't actually put the work in to fix it. They don't fool guys that's not playing well out. If there are cars doing terrible, they don't chest toss.


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[Assistant] They cobble him and you're not going to get anywhere with that, you know?


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[Assistant] Dennis Allen is one of the worst, he's the worst for that type of model because, you know, he's a guy that.


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[Assistant] Some of the, some of these players don't trust because he threw them under the bus at the end of the season. We should have never heard about the fact that they ran a play without his permission.


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[Assistant] Like I, and I keep reiterating that the only reason we found out about that is because Dennis Allen told everybody so that he didn't get the blame for it. Who wants to play for a guy like that? So, I mean, like I said, man, you know, I don't know, man. It's just, they got a lot of things have to change and, and the head coach has to change. He has to be better than what he is.


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[Assistant] We talk about them putting talent on the field, but it really is, it goes back to the head coach. Is this guy getting better as a head coach? What is he doing? You know what I'm saying? I mean, what is he improving his decision making? Is he working on his motivational techniques?


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[Assistant] Is he, is he going to church and having somebody pray that demon item that like to backstab everybody and be a weasel?


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[Assistant] Is he, is he doing, you see what I'm saying? Is he doing, you know, I'm serious on that. Is he doing some spiritual work to understand that, hey, you know, I, I, I am a weasel. I am a, a, a underhanded, no good rotten weasel that, uh, you know, that'll throw my team under the bus and I, it just, it just, what it is is how I came up. That's how I survive in this world. I have to be cutthroat. I have to be backstabbing, you know, that kind of stuff. Do he fix that?


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[Assistant] So I mean, like I said, man, it's a lot of stuff and don't tell me they got rotten ass coaches in the, in the game that all successful.


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[Assistant] But you know, some of them a little bit more craftier and slicker that didn't throw their entire offensive unit under the bus and apologize to the big little squad.


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[Assistant] Is he going to improve? And if the answer is no, then why would I expect anything different?


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[Assistant] Clint Kubiak had, and listen, I like Clint Kubiak. I like the system, but still and all.


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[Assistant] The guy is new. He never been in this position before. He's been.


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[Assistant] You know, a subordinate underneath the offensive coordinator is his first OC role. So he's going to have some learning to do. So it's not going to be instantaneous.


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[Assistant] So he's, it's not like they hired an established offensive coordinator to come in and take the reins. Who knows what these doing? They got a guy that's doing it for the first time. So I have to, you know.


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[Assistant] Let you know that I know that that's the excitement. Hey, we doing this. Look what we got family. We got this going on. We got this going. Listen, that's great. That's positive. I get it, but let's balance this thing. The guy's doing it for the first time.


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[Assistant] He's going to have to figure it out. So some mistakes are going to be made. Some mistakes are going to be made here. So we, it's going to be a patience factor with this guy.


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[Assistant] And do you have the patience to deal with that with Dennis Allen in his third year?


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[Assistant] Going into it. That's a lot of pressure on cars, a lot of pressure on Clint Kubiak, a lot of pressure on Lumis.


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[Assistant] A lot of pressure on Dennis Allen because of the aforementioned last three years of non-playoff football. Two under his administration, by the way. So anyway, just dropping that man. All right.


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[Assistant] All right, Travis says, uh, he's going to bring over at four. Yeah, I agree with that, bro. Yeah, that's what they all do. You know, they, they all do that. They bring players over with his offense. He gonna bring some offensive linemen, maybe a receiver or two.


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[Assistant] You're gonna bring guys over to try to help the Saints system get together. And like I said, man, we'll see. Tim says, Q, what do you think about the online transition to zone run? Do we need new players? You definitely gonna need some new players, bro. You definitely gonna need that because based on what we was watching last year,


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[Assistant] From what the Saints were running and their system wasn't terribly complicated. The zone, that zone run system.


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[Assistant] Not only move, but pull, pull either left or right. But when you get there, you got a block. And remember there were times when I watched the saints do that last year.


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[Assistant] They'll pull out there and don't block anybody or don't know who to block. And I'm like, okay.


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[Assistant] How did these guys always seem to pull and they don't, they miss blocks and guys get tackled like Elvin had two guys out front of him, two offensive linemen pull on, I talked about this before. And this is because this is the one that sticks in my mind from studying all this tape.


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[Assistant] A toss or a sweep play to the left side of the line. Uh, two offensive linemen. Andres Pete was one of them.


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[Assistant] I think McCoy was the other one that pulled to the left. They pulled and they were in front of Elvin Kamau.


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[Assistant] And I think Elvin had just crossed the line of scrimmage.


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[Assistant] And there was one defender against two of those blockers and some kind of way that guy got.


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[Assistant] You know, John Benton, who's the offensive line coach and Clint Kubiak, these guys are going to have to work on that. They're going to have to work on that because it ain't, you know.


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[Assistant] Many years, Ryan Ramczyk is the right tackle. It's probably not going to play next year. You know, he got this real bad knee issue. It's career threat. You currently don't have a left tackle. Your first round draft pick guy, uh, Trevor Penning is buried on a depth chart. They don't know what they're going to do with Penning.


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[Assistant] You know, I would recommend before people want to say, switch them to a guard position. I like before we do that, let's try them at the right tackle position.


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[Assistant] I'm at right tackle before we ultimately decide to guard him up.


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[Assistant] And depending on how much money the saints have in free agency, when they finally get down this 80 plus million dollar, uh, you know, tab that they have.


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[Assistant] I don't know what they have. They might want to go into free agency and see if they can get a left tackle, a veteran.


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[Assistant] You know, even though they have several really good offensive linemen in this upcoming draft and the Saints pick right around the middle there. I would kind of want to get a veteran for the blind side of the quarterback, but I wouldn't be mad if they did take a guy.


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[Assistant] You know, like, uh, the big Oregon state guy or perhaps, uh, uh, late them out of Alabama.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I don't think Joe Alt falls from, from Notre Dame, but you know.


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[Assistant] Something like that, you know what I'm saying? But I would prefer to take a veteran, but you're right though. I think some of these guys will, they'll pull some 49ers guys and some talent from there, or perhaps other places that they have.


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[Assistant] They know who can help them run that type of blocking scheme, so.


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[Assistant] We'll see how it all works, man. But yeah, they got a lot of work to do. Demi, shout out to you, says, Q, good morning. I hear James Winnies wants to remain the same. Do you think DA keeps him? Uh, that's a great question, Demi. I don't know. I'm going to just be honest with you. I don't know.


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[Assistant] Because I seen Jamus was out here during the parade season. He's a man of the people. He's probably one of the most popular Saints on the team.


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[Assistant] And he's not even a starting quarterback. He's way more popular than the starting quarterback of the team. It's crazy. So I don't, I don't, I think Jameis probably wants to stay.


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[Assistant] With the saints, but I don't know if the saints would be good. I ain't saying they mad at them.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, it's a time for the Saints to move beyond Jamus with everything that happened at the back of the year where Jamus going in there and running that play. Dennis Allen is petty. You know, one thing I know about Dennis Allen, he's petty. So it could be a situation where.


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[Assistant] Sam Darnold who was with the 49ers as a backup last year might be your new backup quarterback.


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[Assistant] If I had to, if I was forced to make a bet on it with Jamus and I had to bet on it and like, oh no, you gotta say yea or nay.


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[Assistant] I will have to say no to that because I know how Dennis Allen operates, even though he did after backstabbing Jamus, or was it the year before last?


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[Assistant] They had to rework the deal to keep him, but when he ran that play, I don't think that's the thing that gets him out the door.


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[Assistant] But ultimately I think Clint Kubiak decides who his backup quarterback is going to be to run, you know, for his system. And uh, time might be up for James.


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[Assistant] Time might be up for Jameis. It was, I don't think he got a fair shot here. Anyway, so I think if I was forced to


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[Assistant] That I would probably say no to James being here, man. I would love to have him here. I just don't.


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[Assistant] All right. Yeah, you're right Kevin. That's a rookie at offensive tackle. Oh boy. Oh yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's the whole thing we try to avoid with especially Derek Hall on that side. You look gun shy. Uh, you talking about, so that's what I was like.


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[Assistant] Depending on the money situation, Kev, that's what it comes down to. You know, how much money could the Saints ultimately...


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[Assistant] Uh, dial down, you know, how could they, could they, you know, how much money could they free up to do that?


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[Assistant] And, uh, bring in the kind of help them, you know, that's the thing I'm looking at. I would like to have a veteran there, but they have to be able to afford it.


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[Assistant] Brandon says, I don't know, I know it won't happen, but it would be something if...


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[Assistant] Uh, that, I don't think that's going to be, that'll be fire, man. I'll, I'll take Deebo and Justin Ucheck. I'll take both of them dudes and put them all in. Yeah, that would be awesome to be honest with you, but I don't know if that's going to happen.


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[Assistant] Lester says, the old line needs work, but sometimes if the QB makes a better decision, right, like nothing holding on to the ball forever, he won't get sacked or have to run for his life. Indeed.


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[Assistant] I don't think Carr has a clock in his head. And I watched the film on it because it's weird.


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[Assistant] Derek Carr at times, I don't think he has a QB clock in his head or if he does have one, it's, it's very slow.


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[Assistant] And True Breeze often talked about the QB clock, one Mississippi, two Mississippi is a discipline thing.


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[Assistant] In years, he has a lot of, he has a lot of good things about his game.


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[Assistant] But to get for 150 million and then you're looking at a deep playoff run, you want him to take you there and he's never been there before. There's things in his game that he has to be willing to understand is holding him back and he has to be real with him. He didn't do that last year.


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[Assistant] He didn't when people, when the biggest criticism that he received.


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[Assistant] And he made no mention about it was the fact that he does, he looks down half the field. You don't see no problem with that.


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[Assistant] You know, he don't see any issue with staring on the field, check the ball down a million times in the game. You know, he, the guy didn't see a problem with that.


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[Assistant] I mean, he must, I mean, cause they let him do it for damn near the whole year. They didn't correct his behavior, which was weird to me. I'm like, okay.


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[Assistant] He's his numbers, but he'd been over 4,000, 4,500 yards.


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[Assistant] Multiple touchdowns if he see the field, if he saw the field better because he started to play better in the last year, I mean the last month of the season because he would look over the field and make the throws.


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[Assistant] Guys are running down the field, single covered, sometime wide open, or they'll have a


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[Assistant] They'll be single covered with no safety support and he doesn't even look over there. He's trying to force the ball to the guy on the left and some of the plays call for.


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[Assistant] You know him to look and throw, but not all those plays. You can't tell me all those plays were designed plays where he was forced to go to the check down. No.


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[Assistant] Cause you put the tape on, you could see guys were wide open, you could put the All 22 on the seat, the entire, you could see what was going on on the field. And like, he was criticized by Michael Thomas, he was criticized by, you know, it's just the whole season long.


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[Assistant] If people made it seem like, oh, it was a bad thing for him, no.


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[Assistant] It's on film and if the film could prove it, you can't be, you can't take it personally if the film proves that you out here violating fundamentally. You can't take it as a, as an insult or a, uh,


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[Assistant] Oh, they're people throwing rocks at car. Pun intended.


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[Assistant] No, you can't take, if the tape proves that you all here violate fundamentally, you gotta respect the game. You gotta respect it or get your money back and go somewhere else.


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[Assistant] Where the media is softer on you because we don't, we want to win here and it nine and eight, nine club season is not what we talking about. That's not what we signed up for. All right. So anyway, you know, shout out to the fab man. Appreciate y'all.


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[Assistant] All right, Bronx, uh, Brian says if we don't sign James back, we should sign the one day, one day, then trade them to them before.


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[Assistant] I don't know if they do, I think ultimately if they do release James, it'd probably be like a, a June 1st cut or something like that. You know, I, uh,


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[Assistant] I'm, I would love to see Jameis here, but I don't, I don't know, man. I don't think, I don't think they will, man. I don't think they will. That's just something I'm getting.


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[Assistant] Uh, trying to say I missed what Jamis did to his DAO of policing for me. When he, you know, you know, Jamis.


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[Assistant] What happened to the final play of the game where he, instead of kneeling on the ball, Jameis asked the team what y'all want to do. He said no.


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[Assistant] And they all made a decision as a team to go ahead on and get Jamal Williams' touchdown. Well that pissed Dennis Allen off.


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[Assistant] And, uh, had people saying, well, that made the media, you know, the media.


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[Assistant] Pretends to like Jamus, and some of them probably do, but a lot of them kinda...


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[Assistant] Throw darts at Jamus. They look at him as aloof. I know Kyle and Kyle Paddy. Kyle heard always talk shit about him. You know, he kinda...


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[Assistant] You know, throw little stones and rocks and make fun of him. Cause Jamis is a little, you know, Jamis is a little bit unorthodox at times. You know, he do a little kind of crazy stuff when he was like all up in Derek Carr's face talk about move bitch and all this kind of thing. His eyes bucking and shit. So I mean, it's like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Jameis is kind of a throw it off. We know that. We, we realized that about Jameis a long time ago. Jameis is a little throw it off, but he's a good guy.


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[Assistant] You know, we got partners that's kind of throw it off and crazy, but they're good people. You know what I'm saying? That's just what they got. It's like a nervous, nervous twitch. They're good people though.


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[Assistant] You know, Kevin says most QB's scared to step up in the pocket and take that hit. They'll check it down. Travis says James is going to shine elsewhere. Yeah, he, they love him.


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[Assistant] Lester said the Saints should use the majority of their resources on the O line and D line for agency and the draft if they want to go far into the season. I ain't mad at you on that bro. I do realize.


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[Assistant] That we talk about, like, the Saints offensive, I've seen some mock drafts where the Saints looking at a pass rusher and I'm like, man.


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[Assistant] Is that a best, is that a good usage of a high draft pick, uh, to go after another defensive end? I mean, there's only so much, so many, so much room you're going to put that guy. If a guy's not a starter, I wouldn't, I wouldn't go for that. I wouldn't because, you know, you take a defensive end, where is he going to go? And you take them high, where is he going to play? You're going to sit Cam down. They won't sit Cam down. Cam's getting guaranteed money. They're going to play him.


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[Assistant] Now if he gets hurt, that's a whole nother thing. Carl Granderson's gonna play.


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[Assistant] They want to see what Peyton Turner does and you got Isaiah Foskey the snowman there.


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[Assistant] So you're just going to add another guy into the mix who probably not, I mean, they have a lot of resources dedicated to the position.


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[Assistant] But I think that really the big issue to the Saints is they have to figure out what to do with the offensive line, whether they're going to put resources through the draft on the O line.


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[Assistant] Or if, cause if you move up and take one of the top two guys, like Fuaga, I like Fuaga from Oregon State, Joe Aldis, one of them. Uh, I forgot the other guy's name, but they have.


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[Assistant] Some good linemen that you can use, but you have to go up and get them now where they trade up to go and get an offensive lineman that can, they could put them at the left tackle position and then he goes from there. Or if you're going to.


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[Assistant] Get all that 80 million dollars, whatever it is, and cap down so you go out in the fridge and spend a ton of cake to get it that way. See what I'm saying? So.


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[Assistant] Depending on where the cap situation is, you know.


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[Assistant] Depending on where it is. And I don't think they making Loomis is going to be irresponsible with the cap like he do every year. And especially this year, cause they desperate.


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[Assistant] So I think Clint is probably going to end up getting some veterans to help out with the offensive line.


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[Assistant] And I wouldn't be mad if the Saints took a wide receiver with that, if they have a wide receiver that was available there. Cause they have some really good wide receivers that.


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[Assistant] Might fall to us there. So I mean, I guess from an offensive standpoint, there's some areas that we can look at, but some kind of way in a draft.


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[Assistant] Maybe we could pick up a safety, a linebacker, like I did my mock trap. I got another one coming out tomorrow for our Patreon and YouTube membership family. Uh, but it, it covers some of that stuff and thoughts on that. So.


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[Assistant] We'll see how it all goes, fam. But you know, the Saints are desperate, so there's going to be some type of irresponsibility, monetarily speaking. It always is, because we're not responsible cap quads here.


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[Assistant] He says, when the Super Bowl comes to New Orleans Q, people in chat, anybody going to go down to tailgate next year? I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know. I'm gonna have to think about that one, fam.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I guess it depends on how we feel, how the Saints finish. I don't know.


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[Assistant] You know, we gonna pull, and I said this last year, but I really wanted to kind of, cause I've been doing a lot of business stuff, man. I don't know if y'all know, you know.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, we signed, you know, I signed up with, uh, believe me and believe our network are operating. We're working together on some stuff.


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[Assistant] So I'll be doing a lot of stuff, man. So, but definitely my key focus this year.


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[Assistant] Coming up is to do more stuff with you guys, like doing more, uhm.


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[Assistant] That I was supposed to do last year, but I had so much transition stuff I was doing.


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[Assistant] I've been doing, working on the revamping websites and doing all this kind of stuff. It, it, it, I, I get to my breaks, you know, but I've been really moving, man. All right, Kevin says Q, uh, Saints need a lot. There's no.


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[Assistant] Wrong answer. I don't think they need as much as you think, bro. Depending on how they handle the offense with Clint Kubiak, if he gives them a grocery list and they go out and shop and buy them what they want, I think they'll be fine. Now you do need, you know, you got uh, veterans


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[Assistant] That are still productive. I think Cam's production dropped because of his injury. If he wasn't hurt, I think he would have gotten maybe five or six sacks. And I know that's well below what he is, but.


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[Assistant] You know, Cam is more like a, I'm gonna say he's a legacy signing in so far as the saints say, man, we're gonna make you a saint for life, but when...


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[Assistant] He was productive. A lot of people wanted to keep Cam here and he could still be productive for you, but I just think that.


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[Assistant] You had a Demario Davis, Tyron Matthew. You want to make sure now that you get these young guys in place.


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[Assistant] Behind them right now in this type of draft, like you get you a safety, you get you a linebacker. You know, you get those guys.


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[Assistant] And add them because sooner or later the time is going to come when the Tyron Matthew lays it up or, you know, he puts it hangs his cleats up or Demario Davis and some of these other guys.


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[Assistant] But the offensive one, they're going to put a lot of resources toward the offense because you know, the obvious thing.


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[Assistant] You know, and people talk about the defensive line, interiorly speaking, the Saints had brung in, they brung in three new guys.


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[Assistant] Last year, Colin Saunders, Nate Shepard, and they drafted Brian Bersie. Not even, if they do get somebody in the draft later on in the middle of the draft, it'd probably be a depth chart.


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[Assistant] Uh, person to fill in if they don't bring Melka Roach back or perhaps another guy nose tackled. You see what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Now those positions are starter positions right now, like the first two picks you're looking at, the first one or two or three picks, uh, the first two picks are starter position picks when you draft and you're looking to kind of fill a starting role or, you know, get a starter there. And, uh, you know, depending on how they operate in free agency,


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[Assistant] You know, it kinda, and, and how we deal with the draft. We can meet some needs if they know what needs that need to be met. If you know what I mean, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Travis says, sign Chase young. Yeah, he's out there. We'll see, bro. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. The saints see the need to go out and do that. They might want to go get a guy for depth. They put a lot, they threw a lot there.


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[Assistant] You know, it's like I said, if you sign Chase Young, who starts? Who's your starting defensive end? You going bench cam?


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[Assistant] You gonna do that? They're not gonna bench Cam. Dennis Allen's not gonna bench Cam, bro. That's what I'm saying. When I be thinking about, I would love to have Chase Young, man, you know, come here and do his thing, but they ain't gonna bench Granderson. They ain't gonna bench Cam. And you think Chase Young gonna come off the bench? He's gonna come off the...


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[Assistant] You know, the situational past pressure and he gonna, he gonna command a hefty paycheck too.


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[Assistant] To do it. And then again, I don't know, due to 49ers, their current uh, situation, it might bring Chase Young back. I don't know what their cap situation is, but you probably would want to. And Randy Gregory played real well too. So, I don't know, we'll see. Alright.


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[Assistant] All right, Brian says, BQ, if you don't mind me asking, can you think about making the Saints calendar with the schedule in it for each game? Uh, well, you know, we'll see about it, brother. I'm gonna see what I can do. I think they have a, uh, I'm gonna look that up, matter of fact. Hold on, let me write that down. Let me just a second. Let me write that down.


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[Assistant] Alright, anyway, uh, Brandon says, uh, we need some young pass rushers. I mean, what about the guys we have?


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[Assistant] All right. Yeah. In fact, like I said, they've invested, they invested those guys, a first round draft pick for Peyton Turner.


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[Assistant] And a second round draft pick for Isaiah Foskey to snowman. They ain't like undrafted guys like to see a Carl Granderson.


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[Assistant] Or you can move them guys around or push them around. They've paid Girl Grandison this money. They gave Cam. Cam got guaranteed money. Uhm.


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[Assistant] They want to see what Peyton Turner does. He's the first round draft pick in the Isaiah Foskey. The snowman. So I don't.


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[Assistant] You know, I, I'm with you, but I just, I don't know how to, I don't think the Saints, they look at it like that. I think they looking at it the way I'm telling you, they looking at it. I don't agree about it, but they still have, you know, interest in those guys.


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[Assistant] Remember we kept promoting them to do this when training camp or before training camp happened.


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[Assistant] We kept trying to get them to sign veteran pass rushes. They never got around to doing it.


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[Assistant] They kept fiddling around with undrafted guys and stuff like that because those guys are cheaper.


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[Assistant] And then you could put them in positions like as, as backups and stuff like that. But you know, spend all that money on the Chase Young for what? You go bench cam, they're not going to do that.


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[Assistant] You know, I hate what you saying. A lot of you saying because y'all want results. Cause you think Cam is like on the back end of his career, but they don't see it like that. What's up Neville? How you doing fam? Brandon says the Niners are dumb. Oh yeah, I seen that man. I disagree with that bro.


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[Assistant] I really disagree about that. You know, with them firing Wilkes, man, that was, that was not a good look.


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[Assistant] What's up, Slim says, gotta use Zach Bourne as a pass rusher. That's especially come out of Winston, Wisconsin. We, you know what family, you know, when they first drafted him, Slim, you know, we knew that.


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[Assistant] We were saying that the whole time, Sean Payton said that. And then when it came down to it, they didn't do it up until the guy in the final year of his.


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[Assistant] Contract, they started using the way they said they was going to use it.


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[Assistant] The Zach Bowen thing was a running gag for us cause he never played, like he had the athleticism.


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[Assistant] To move around, but he didn't know what he was doing because he never played that position.


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[Assistant] He got what, 11 sacks there? He was really good at that and the Saints tried to turn him into a stand up coverage linebacker and it didn't work out.


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[Assistant] You struggled, and then guys like Nephi Sewell, who's undrafted, took his position and forced him into the pass rusher.


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[Assistant] The, uh, sub package, uh, pass rusher roll and he excelled at that. Now do they didn't bring him back and do that again? I don't, I don't know.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Zach Bourne would be interesting, man. He might pull up stakes and head up north to Wisconsin, where you come from. You never know.


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[Assistant] Aight, what's up KB? Shout out to the Queens, man. Brother Eric, how you doing, sir? Appreciate you.


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[Assistant] Alright, last question here. Brian says, Dennis Allen doesn't work out after this year. Do you think there's a possibility we get Bill Belichick as the next coach in New Orleans Saints? Maybe? That's a good question, Brian. I don't...


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[Assistant] Because Bill Belichick, and there was a report that Atlanta put out about, uh, I think called Blink.


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[Assistant] Said that the Atlanta Falcons said that Bill Belichick didn't ask for control.


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[Assistant] Uh, in terms of general manager control. So if he comes to New Orleans, does he do that? Does he want general manage, uh, some form of general manager control? What Mickey Loomis is.


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[Assistant] That could be problematic. You know, Mickey Loomis don't want to give up no power, even though he got two jobs.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I ultimately won't be the general manager. Yeah, but if somebody come and pick you, I just find somebody else.


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[Assistant] Why don't you just let me be the general manager? You're the vice president and I want both roles. It really makes no sense for him to have both those roles.


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[Assistant] But it's just like an ego thing. Like, uh, I got control of the team. You're old. You know, disrespect my older people, but I'm saying it's sometimes the game pass you by. It pass you by on the greatest coaches. You don't think it pass you by with general managers. And I knew like Ozzie, Ozzie, uh, knew some.


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[Assistant] Uh, was a fantastic general manager for many years with Baltimore and he was 10 times of the general manager. Mickey Lummis could ever hope to be, but at some point you have to have the imagination and.


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[Assistant] Common sense to understand that my job is, is what it is. I'm a vice president.


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[Assistant] And I train these guys, let me let them get that and I can just cruise into it. There's no reason for him to keep both those jobs. He don't need to be the general manager and the VP.


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[Assistant] And his, his, it's his reason, he's the problem. Why are we going through this stuff right now? With Dennis Allen.


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[Assistant] This is the NFL. Dennis Allen wouldn't have survived nowhere else. He wouldn't have survived his team looking like this. He'd have been fired.


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[Assistant] You'd have been fired. No other NFL team would have put up with this foolishness. I mean, but you don't have a hands-on owner.


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[Assistant] Trust is into my and to my mom and my thought process too much into these other guys.


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[Assistant] You know, and they're not even evaluating each other. The guy that's above Mickey Lu, Luci is not evaluating Mickey Lumis' job. He's not.


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[Assistant] That's what, where's the accountability at? Where, where is it?


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[Assistant] You know, he could sit up in all the stuff he said last year was a joke and a half. So, so like I said, you know, it doesn't make any sense to me.


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[Assistant] You know, he's the reason why the Saints are going through this crap right now. Why the team is where they are. He's the reason. He made these decisions. And we forced to suffer through it, so. Alright, so shout out to the fam.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's say it's Q. I don't, don't you agree our head coaches is a problem drafting players who are projects instead of draft improvements? I mean, it's a crapshoot the way you look at it. You're supposed to do your work and figure out what player fits your system. I think oftentimes, like, uhm, sometimes the Saints, well, a lot of times the Saints would draft people.


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[Assistant] They're a part of a different system just because they like their athleticism.


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[Assistant] And they think that they can convert the player into something else and it don't work. Like they'll pick up a 3-4, like they did with Zach Bourne, this perfect example. Zach Bourne was a 3-4 linebacker. You know, and they tried to take him, well, he wasn't a linebacker, but he was a guy that was.


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[Assistant] Projected to be in that style of system. They'll take a three forward linebacker type and don't get me wrong.


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[Assistant] But sometimes you might have a system player that plays well in a particular system. And if you take them out of that system and put them somewhere else, he might eat, he won't thrive as much. That's how it does happen.


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[Assistant] But you know, like I said, you just have to do your research to the best of your ability and find players that fit what you're doing.


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[Assistant] And just character, from a character standpoint and injuries, production, all that's a part of it. And to be honest with you, these things ain't really been hitting on.


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[Assistant] A lot of stuff draft wise, but undrafted wise, they've been, they filled up the team with a lot of really solid undrafted people. Rashid Shahid's undrafted, he performed better than some of our, uh, drafted guys. You know what I'm saying? We had a couple of, uh, uh, special teams players that really stepped up. How about Isaac Yidam?


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[Assistant] Yetam was a guy that they brought on the team. JT Gray was another guy that was undrafted. Nephi Sewell was another undrafted guy. You know, Malcolm Roach was another undrafted guy, gave you good production. So I mean, usually finding some of these guys and they play well for you.


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[Assistant] And spots, you know, Jawan Johnson, the ultimate undrafted guy, he's just starting tight in. So, I mean, we have a really good.


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[Assistant] Uh, ability to find these undrafted guys, but Sanks not really hidden in the, in the draft area, especially early on anymore. The Trevor Penning.


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[Assistant] Uh, pick is not looking too good. Isaiah Foskey, the snowman developing Peyton Turner.


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[Assistant] It's can't ski same seat. So yeah, we need to work on that, man. We definitely need to work on that.


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[Assistant] All right. So anyway, listen fam, we're going to do that. That'll be the end of the show. Listen, I appreciate you guys for chiming in on this episode of Tacoma. Uh, we covered some good stuff today. Listen, I'll be back tomorrow. My Patreon family members, I'm going to be releasing that, uh, mock draft tomorrow for our Patreon and YouTube membership family.


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[Assistant] If you want to do that family, you can feel free to click the link in the description section below or simply go to patreon.com forward slash the pro media network. A lot of lock content is there.


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[Assistant] Or just become a member of our YouTube channel, but the Patreon family member will get a little bit more.


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[Assistant] As I upload other stuff there as I news show on Cuba big queue, which is another.


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[Assistant] Uh, cover some news, notes, and items. Uh, I haven't done all in Q with Big Q, but I'm gonna be doing one real soon.


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[Assistant] Uh, and some other stuff. So anyway, with that being said, I'm going to get on out with that. I'm going to be back. I said tomorrow, like tomorrow is another day, actually later on today, rather to talk about the latest development. So.


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[Assistant] Much love to the fam. Appreciate y'all. Y'all hit the like button for me. Feel free to hit the like button. Feel free to share the show on your social media feed. I'ma holler at y'all later on in the day. Much love and who that to.


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[Assistant] Bounce to third. Machin has it. And that'll do it. Adrian Martinez with a three up three down top of the first. He's come to bat when we come.


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[Assistant] Oh, oh Luke. Oh Luke. Oh it's good. It's coming out alright, but this is not the best form I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] Understand the regulations? You sign up for a year. No drinking.


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[Assistant] Don't lose your temper in this heat, Davis. It's bad for the blood pressure.


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[Assistant] My blue jacket, Davies, I saved it. And all I want is an excuse to use it.


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[Assistant] I had no intention of making the same mistake again, although I scarcely regard it as a mistake. I felt I should inform you as to what my course of action will be.


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[Assistant] Thompson, I hear you made a new friend. If I did, I was off duty. When you work for me, Thompson, you're never off duty. What did you and Mike Davis talk about? We just had a drink. Just a drink, eh? Gentlemen, how are your powers of persuasion tonight?


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[Assistant] I will keep the death weapon as evidence. Send in a guard.


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[Assistant] Eternally hopeful for some small glittering favor. Amazing place. This place here in the desert where the gems lie just a few inches below the surface. Free. Free for the taking. Were it not for certain unfortunate restrictions. Here, go away.


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[Assistant] You know, a clerk that made a quick dash past a barrier and scooped up a bushel or so of diamonds. They're lying only a few inches under the sand.


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[Assistant] He got him back, but the two fell into the hands of the diamond police and...


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[Assistant] How quickly our little tramps tarnish her. How quickly her conquist turns heavy and unlovely in our arms.


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[Assistant] Yes, as I foresaw, he left great disaster in his trail.


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[Assistant] As for the death of poor Dr. Hunter, he drank a little too much anyway, but I feel really sorry for Mademoiselle Renault. I just can't believe she killed him. There's no one who can prove differently. Oh, that a girl so beautiful should die.


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[Assistant] Well I, I think as long as you're determined to, to sacrifice this great fortune and, and go back to diamond studs and help the girl I, I think I know a man who can arrange for us to make this trip, quietly.


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[Assistant] Peanut butter and jam. And more peanut butter. Oh, you're right. Actually, I suppose in a way.


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[Assistant] You're a professor of, what are you a professor of?


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[Assistant] And this is the WrestleTalk Podcast Raw Review. Please press the thumbs up button, press the subscribe button if this is your first time here, because we're on our way to 70k. 70k! When we hit 70k, we're going to be doing a very special live stream, a 10 hour live stream, which I'm calling the Royal Rumble Randomizer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if you want to. Sounds like a great day. Yeah, we're just gonna watch Royal Rumbles for 10 hours. I spend most out there doing that anyway, so. For as long as it takes. Perfect. So that is our plans, but we need to get to 70k in order to do that. We're currently about 67, so...


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[Assistant] Make it happen. Do us a solid. Get us there. Uh, and get in your thoughts, opinions, feelings. How are you looking gorgeous today? To WrestleTalk.com forward slash support. We'll read out all of them above the five US dollars. Although with our current currency, you could probably pay in anything and it won't make a blind bit of difference to us.


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[Assistant] It's funny, cause when I was like scrolling through the old Twitter machine, I saw a lot of, uh, uh, wrestling websites and other podcasts talking about huge raw return. And I was like thinking through this episode, I'd be like,


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[Assistant] I was like, who was the big raw return? And I suppose you can make the argument, and I did last week with Brock Lesnar, so who am I to talk?


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[Assistant] JBL is back on our screens. We did see him on Smackdown a handful of weeks ago, putting Baron Corbin into the back of a limo, which has now been paid off here. JBL is an on-screen character in WWE once again, and he is the


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[Assistant] I'm not going to say manager, because they never sort of addressed him as manager, but he has a new protégé.


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[Assistant] And he has now found a new WRESTLING GUARD! In the form of... BC.


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[Assistant] Baron Corb. Barry Corbs. Because Reg Mysterio got transferred across to Smackdown. Which I liked this. Yea, me too. You know, Bran's a bit lol, but they, they, it was a trade. It made sense. Yea, absolutely made sense in the world. And as Tempest was laughing at me when I came into the office today because like, haha, we got Rey Mysterio.


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[Assistant] And in return you get Baron Corbin. And I said, well, we should also get one of your guys, cause you've now got Amos. Because Amos has also been transferred. Has he transferred? He's gone across to Smackdown now. Did they say that on the show? Yea, he's now, I think he's listed internally now as a Smackdown guy. I must have zoned out. Um, cause they said he's going to Smackdown this Friday, but also I think


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[Assistant] Initial, internally now he's listed as a Smackdown star. Interesting. And I was like, surely we should get someone for them. And Tempest's response to that was like, no, the positive you get is that you've lost, like it's a net positive gain.


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[Assistant] And I love the fact that it's JBL that got to do this as well. Yeaah. Because JBL had that feud with Rey. Yes. Like his last big feud that he had. It's very, it's very smart. It's very neat. Yeaah. So he got to come out and be like Rey Mysterio has always been a kid.


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[Assistant] He's always been rubbish in WWE and he's once again run away from his better son, Dominik Mysterio.


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[Assistant] And he has orchestrated this exchange between Raw and Smackdown, which means that Baron Corbin is back. He is Baron Corbin again. Baron Corbin. No longer king, no longer sad, no longer happy. No, Baron Corbin.


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[Assistant] But, he's still got the happy Corbin titantron. Yep. And he's got the silly little hat.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Maybe. I would like, hope so, because this hat has got to go.


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[Assistant] I think Baron Corbin is a terrific mid card guy.


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[Assistant] In the same way that people think that I rag on them is when I say he's a really good mid card heal.


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[Assistant] But I think like Baron Corbin for me, like pairing him with JBL I think is like a, is a perfect little marriage because he's almost like a modern day JBL in the sense of a superb mid card heel.


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[Assistant] He's a very good heal pro. Oh my god. And it's all base level stuff. Because he comes out and he's just like, you know.


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[Assistant] I also like this kind of character thing for JBL of like this judge, jury and executioner of you never would have made it in the Astute era.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, I think this is, the plan is, based on that off, he was on SmackDown, he brought him into the limo. I think he is gonna be his protege and he's gonna be like, you are, you are our new


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, we found out this really shocking statistic on the AEW review. Did you know that Billy Gunn is the oldest member of DX?


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[Assistant] Very fascinating looking at the, uh, the chat here. Uh, people taking against my, uh, my


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[Assistant] Comments that JBL was not over as WWE champion.


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[Assistant] But I also think that is more or less factually correct because we, we lived through that period of time and he was not over as W.


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[Assistant] Austin's gone. It was a time for WWE when they had lost all of their top guys from the previous generation and they were now looking to the people that were still there to be like, who can we build this around? And so quite smartly.


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[Assistant] And we can move John Cena up the car because that's our plan. We've got Batista. We then go across to Smackdown as well. And JBL was a guy to be like, let's JBL's here. Let's give him a go.


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[Assistant] My, so I, I've told this story before on WrestleTalk Extra, but these are the sort of things that do- Who wouldn't make my top ten? That's what I'm trying to say. Yeaah. These are the sort of stories then, anecdotes that sort of stick with you, and perhaps a lot of my, my JBL nostalgia is anecdotal based.


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[Assistant] Remember when I was watching a little bit of wrestling and some friends of mine who had stopped watching wrestling after the invasion?


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[Assistant] Said to me, it was like, oh, who's the champion at the moment? And I said, oh, it's Bradshaw.


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[Assistant] And they're like, but the APA guy, they're like, yeah, it's like, no way. Like they, like to them, the idea that Bradshaw is champion was a laughable suggestion.


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[Assistant] And all the pay fees where he was, uh, like the Smackdown buy rates were way, way lower than Raw ones, with him as champion.


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[Assistant] Kevin Nash in a way, in terms of like, Kevin Nash was the champion during the company's worst time period. So like, he sort of like heralded as like, oh you weren't the guy to carry this company and actually the company's downturn was because of you.


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[Assistant] That's it. And like, okay, so I am perhaps not the greatest JBL fan in the world. I'm certainly not the biggest Baron Corbin fan in the world because I think the Baron Corbin is a guy that's often pushed beyond his means. Uh, I, as a huge NXT mark, I never quite got


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[Assistant] I mean, I got it because the gimmick was, I'm not an indie wrestler. I love that. Like one of my favorite things he's ever done, and it still makes me laugh to this day, and a match with Apollo Crews on Takeover, and he knocks Apollo Crews out of the ring and he just shouts at him, go back to Ring of Honor. Apollo Crews never wrestled for Ring of Honor.


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[Assistant] But to the character Baron Corbin, that is what the Indies is. It's Ring of Honor.


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[Assistant] And so I love that as a, as a little wrinkle to his character, but he was also the guy that when I had two star matches when everyone else was doing


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[Assistant] But what I thought was really great about this segment here is that crowd were really into JBL. Not massively into Baron Corbin.


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[Assistant] And then they had this match with Dolph Ziggler. And then, you know, you want to talk about a cold match. It's Baron Corbin versus Dolph Ziggler.


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[Assistant] So, huge 2016 flashbacks of the real dirge era of Smackdown and this and that and like when they first went into the brand split and it was like, we don't really know how we're doing this brand split anymore and it wasn't very good product really.


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[Assistant] They had this match, and it was okay, and it was fine, and it was going long, and I was like, great, this match is really going.


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[Assistant] As into, not as into this, but like they were into two matches. They were into this and they were into the main event.


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[Assistant] And I think that's a huge credit to this match then, in this final third, they really did get this crowd into this.


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[Assistant] Fair play to you, Baron Corbin. So let's see what you thought of this. And actually, because we have got Mod Mother back with us today, welcome back Mod Mother.


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[Assistant] So wonderful to have you back, we did miss you so. Can we have a poll? Oh, I'd like to see this poll.


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[Assistant] Looking forward to this. Uh, into the Ultra Jats we go. Get your thoughts, opinions and feelings into rustdog.com forward slash support. We'll read out every single one of them above the five US dollars. Charles Berg kicks things off to say, it actually looks like a stud. Dom's delivery of the line. I'm going to wipe the floor with you.


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[Assistant] As your bullying ways, I do not condone. Uh, Kevin said, curious about how you feel about JPL opening his segment with, I apologize, considering all we know about him. To then turn it into a Your Town Sucks promo. Promo itself was actually fun, but WWE found a way to make Corbin's music even


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[Assistant] In fairness though, like, as soon as you started with I apologize, I was like, okay, I'm going to wait for, I don't, I have no idea what the Oklahoma football team is, but I, I think we're going to get some things said about them by JBL and it will make the crowd do a boo.


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[Assistant] He says boomersuna, but that means absolutely nothing to me.


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[Assistant] So this is a slightly exposed, I don't think everyone saw this episode of the Blackpool Content Club we did recently. You know Jericho's calling himself the Oat Show? Yep.


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[Assistant] My only knowledge of the word OATSHOW is from Dodgeball.


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[Assistant] Mayor of Paynesville, Dan, said, Is this 2009 again? I am getting old. Not as old as JBL got in the past five years, but still, this raw felt like a little flashback with a lot of the 2000s guys on.


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[Assistant] Alright DL, looking back at the heat he got in 2004, I was there. We were always wanting to see JBL get destroyed by the Smackdown main event scene, but sadly he would retain after his beatings for almost a year. Better build and reign than Jinder, right? Right? I mean...


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I think that is part of the problem with JBL's run, uh, even when you sort of look back on it retrospectively, is that...


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[Assistant] It got really tiresome really quickly. And yeah, I mean, I was, you know, the forums at the time, people were not into it. Fan reaction to it, it was not into.


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[Assistant] Ah, into JBL at this point, or at that point. But anyway, let's get into the rest of your, uh, let's get into the rest of the review of Raw. We'll get to your Ultra Chats at the end of the show. Please do keep yelling them in. Wrestle.com for slash support because if you do get them in, do you know what happens? We read them on air. They appear on the screen.


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[Assistant] They do, I've seen that. They appear up on the screen with a little animation and stuff, so if you want your name on the screen, it's a way to do it.


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[Assistant] So I loved the way this episode of Raw opened. It opened halfway through a Bobby Lashley promo.


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[Assistant] So it really was like, you know, I watched this thing at 6am, so you're like, oh, and you sort of sit up and be like, man, what did I miss? Did I accidentally press fast forward? Am I missing something here? But no, it's designed to be this way.


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[Assistant] Best episode of Roar All Year. Uhm, I mean, we've already got a poll going, so I can't talk about this one either, but...


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[Assistant] I really want to get the feelers out there if South of Heaven is the best Slayer album, which I think we're probably all in agreement in. I saw some people in the edited reviews say that Seasons in the Abyss is probably a better album, but I think South of Heaven is a much better album. And I think that Brock and Damian Priest probably had a wonderful conversation about that backstage.


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[Assistant] Because really, it's between south of heaven and god hates us all. But I didn't, I was a bit, I didn't want to say god hates us all on it.


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[Assistant] Because I didn't want people coming after me.


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[Assistant] Just in general, I think I went onto a WrestleTalk video and said that the album title, God Hates Us All, I'd have a lot of anger. They'd go nuts. Oh yeah, absolutely.


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[Assistant] But they, these two then got into a brawl, probably because Bobby Lashley, uh, disagreed with Lesnar's thoughts on Slayer's best- Almost certainly.


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[Assistant] That's what I thought. And uh, then they collided and they had...


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[Assistant] Oh man, when I was looking at that table and I looked at that break, I felt like Tom Kerridge looking at a creme brulee. And looking at that top being like, I hope this has got a good crack to it. Get in the back of a spoon.


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[Assistant] I was going to use Great British Bake Off, but like, you know, I think I don't want to go to the base levels of things.


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[Assistant] But I was into it, I was into it. Also, Pete Williams was spotted at Ringside breaking up the brawl, so 10 out of 10 episode of course. Anytime that Pete Williams is on this show, and he's always there as part of the agents and stuff. I thought it was great.


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[Assistant] Anyway, this is the loudest the fans have been for Bobby in ages. Did you spot Cedric and, um, Shelton? Thank you. Pushing themselves to the front of the geeks of the locker room to come out and break this fight. So to be like, no, no, no, we've got history. Yeah. I was kind of hoping for some hurt business stuff there, but we didn't quite get that. I liked it. Nice talk.


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[Assistant] Uh, shoutouts to WWE Raw. I think that they learned from their mistake last week.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they did. They were much clearer about Bray Wyatt's return on this show. Last week they put up on the screen as we showed on this show. The return of Bray Wyatt, tonight on Raw.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then Judgment Day, the best thing on Raw, came out to cut a promo. Uh, I like Balor, sort of burying this idea, being like, oh, look at you, so original, too sweet. I invented this club, lest we forget. This whole thing was my idea in the first place. And they laid down a challenge for Crown Jewel.


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[Assistant] AJ accepted, but they wanted to do it right there, right now. Unless you need to ask your mum for permission.


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[Assistant] But they're the best thing on Raw, Dan. I cannot stress this enough, they're the best thing on Raw. They really are. And it's moments like this that make me think they're the best thing on Raw, because Finn's about to speak, but Dominic...


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[Assistant] Subadik Mysterio is the man who is just like, no, I will speak. He insulted my father. He insulted my daddy and I'm going to step up and stalk some smack.


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[Assistant] But he only really said the things that Rhea was saying. And it was just so great. He couldn't really form his own words. And like Rhea accepts the match for him and says, he's going to wipe the floor with you. And he looked terrified. And he looked terrified, but then he said, yeah, I'm going to wipe the floor with you in about an hour.


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[Assistant] I think Dominic is really starting to come into his own. I think he's tremendous. This was the other line I cut from my thing. Someone even said to me, I look forward to your This Week He's Dressed As.


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[Assistant] And uh, I didn't have it in this one because again, I didn't, I couldn't be arsed with the comments coming after me. I wrote it this week dressed like a stand up comedian that would definitely use the term woke as a negative.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but anyway, uh, they're gonna have a match later on tonight. Uh, we got a recap of Seth Rollins winning the US title, and then Rollins came out for a promo.


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[Assistant] What's the point of this promo? Because we've got him in the main event later on, do we really need two Seth Rollins entrances? I guess like, it's if you've got Roman Reigns on SmackDown as a writer, you know you've already killed 10 minutes of TV time, particularly for the end book of Karrion Kross. There's 20 minutes of, I don't have to write and fill time there.


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[Assistant] So maybe, you know, a good long Seth Rollins entrance is a good way to kill time and get some ad reads in.


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[Assistant] But the reason he came out to cut this promo is because Mustafa Ali interrupted.


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[Assistant] And came out and he said, look, Bobby promised me that I would get another shot at the US title, but he's not the champion anymore, you are. But while that has changed, my title shot has not, so I'm demanding my title shot against you. Can I? Point of contention, did he?


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[Assistant] The only reason I give this segment a bit of a pass on that is because we talked last week about the Lashley-Ali match and how it didn't really achieve its end goal of getting Ali over. Like they were trying to do the Moxley-Wheely-Yuta thing and it didn't work. And I think that's because we pointed out like


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[Assistant] Ashley wasn't really doing a lot of the big self that he needs to do to build to the big near falls and make the crowd believe that Ali could get the win here.


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[Assistant] But this segment was fascinating to me because Ali comes out, very little reaction, it was actually a shocking amount of reaction, a shockingly little amount of reaction, to the point where he was getting Rollins, crowd were adoring everything he said, hanging on every word.


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[Assistant] Ali was getting the what treatment when he wasn't getting abject silence, he was getting the what treatment from the crowds. And when Rollins beat him up and it was a great like being around nowhere, the crowd are singing Rollins song. There's so much more in


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[Assistant] But when Ali got up and took him out, it got a reaction from the crowd because like that get up and fire attitude for him. In other words, he got knocked down again. That got Rollins booed and it got Ali cheered. So the segment


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[Assistant] And making him feel like this underdog challenger than the whole Bobby Lashley match did a couple of weeks ago.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean lastly, just on this segment, uhm, Seth Rollins is from Iowa. Do you have any thoughts on Slipknot's new album?


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[Assistant] But not quite as good as the previous album. Anyway, uhm, damage control then took on Candice Larray and Bianca Belair.


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[Assistant] And I think it has fallen off the boil week upon week upon week since they returned at SummerSlam. And if this was the MyGM mode,


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[Assistant] Well, I don't really see what the point was to continue this feud beyond. I actually would have much preferred Bailey going into a feud with Candice LeRae.


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[Assistant] To a match I've seen twice. I kind of got this with this Smackdown this Friday, because this Smackdown is damage control defending their tank tiles against Raquel and Shotzi.


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[Assistant] And my first question is, but why? You just beat them on Smackdown last week.


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[Assistant] I, if I, I'm just spitballing ideas here. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see Nicky until perhaps next year, because at the end of this year, Eric Young deals up with impact.


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[Assistant] Oh, sneaky. So, look at you with the eye in the long thing. That's just me, like, when I saw the news, I was like, oh, Eric Young's done with Impact by the end of the year. I was like...


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[Assistant] I suppose, you know, Nikki's now done with the superhero thing. Probably pick up the call to a demo as well.


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[Assistant] Uh, Riddle was interviewed by Cathy Kelly, and then...


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[Assistant] On my old NXE reviews, I used to refer to her as, I gave her my own nickname, The Angel.


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[Assistant] And she is delightful. Not used to her full extents in this, I would say. Uh, but Ali walked up and then, you know, Riddle had a bit of a pep talk with him. And then, uh, turns around to Miz. I like this sort of interconnectivity, sort of weave three different things together.


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[Assistant] And the Miz had a hurt knee because he slipped while looking for Dexter Lumis. So there's no way he can possibly compete tonight.


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[Assistant] Cora Jade from NXT walked up to Rhea Ripley because she wants to have her represented in the Pick Up Poison match and Ripley accepted. So tonight on NXT, it's Rhea Ripley versus Roxanne Perez and Cora Jade versus Raquel Gonzalez. Later on, Cameron Grimes got the good brothers.


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[Assistant] I need to get back into calling him Luke Gallows again. It's just, it's reprogramming the old margin.


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[Assistant] It usually takes 30 days, I've learned in therapy. And uhm, so we were talking about, you know, we've got this. So we've got quite a lot of main roster stars. You know, there's four we just mentioned there. Sonya Deville is also going to be on the show as well against Albuquerque.


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[Assistant] And Bryan Alvarez said on Wrestling Observer Radio today that WWE are determined to beat AEW tonight in the ratings.


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[Assistant] Oh goodness. Because this is next level Kani Genius. Because what he has done is he has stacked the NXT show tonight.


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[Assistant] But not with top level stars, because now he's in a win-win situation. If AEW, if WWE wins.


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[Assistant] We beat AEW who've got Moxley versus Hangman Page for the title with some of our mid-card talent on our developmental show.


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[Assistant] Or, or, no, what they'll say is on our third brand. Yes. Yeah. But if NXT doesn't win, which likely they won't. It's because. It's because. Well, you know, they'd be our third develop, our developmental brand. Good for them.


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[Assistant] But it's also, it's the base level of just interconnectivity between the two, featuring your NXT stars on the main roster. It's what we've been saying since-


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[Assistant] Was Ria and Raquel? Ria and Raquel, they were former tag partners.


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[Assistant] Uh, backstage the Miz was with a doctor and he wouldn't allow him to touch his knee because it was so sore.


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[Assistant] They then saw you put the, the wet, uh, floor sign down. They then saw you fake falling over. And it was like this sort of like level upon level upon level of stupidity. And Mrs. Like, I would never do that. What a stupid mistake.


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[Assistant] And then all of a sudden off screen you heard Johnny Gargano shout, oh my god, it's Dexter Loomis. And Miz jumps up out of his s- and lands perfectly on his name. Miraculous. Miraculous. And Byron Sacks is like, oh I guess you are ready to compete now. And Miz just sort of stone-faced like,


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[Assistant] It's really funny. Yeah, really, really good. Uh, AJ and Dominic Mysterio had their match where they did confirm the crown jewel match, which causes quite a bit of trouble because, uh, Carl Anderson was supposed to be wrestling for New Japan on the same day.


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[Assistant] Which is not the same day, it's basically he cannot do both shows.


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[Assistant] Physically impossible to do both shows. But as a few people did point out on Twitter, Carl Anderson wouldn't do both shows if they were in the same building.


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[Assistant] Uhm, this was a totally fine match, but I did like it's finish, uhm, but it was distracting in the difference, but it was the only one of the evening, uh, and by Rhea Ripley, and Dominik pinned AJ Styles, and they really did put this over as


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[Assistant] That's a huge upset on Raw, was the biggest upset we've seen in years. AJ Styles was just pinned by the rookie Dominic Mysterio. Puts over Dominic with the Judgement Day, the best thing on.


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[Assistant] And it furthers the storyline that we've got, which has only been building for, you know, a handful of weeks. But, and this is crucial when I talk about the Dexter Loomis Mists storyline, every week it has moved along. It has added a new wrinkle every single week. This is what someone might call a bit of long-term storytelling. It's not that long, so it's only a handful of weeks, but it's still...


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[Assistant] Every week, the story has progressed this next page forward.


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[Assistant] So Miz was warming up backstage and Johnny Gargana walks up to him and says, I just want you to tell the truth. And Miz says, well, once I'm done with Dexter, I've got a score to settle with you.


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[Assistant] And then Dexter Zoomers made his entrance to the match, but Miz attacked him with some super soft chair shots. Did you see? Nick Trolley tweeted.


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[Assistant] Gerald Briscoe would have been like, could have been a bit harder with those tires, Mr. Mac Mayan. And he laid him out with some really soft touch chair shots, like real like tinks heard around the world, awful business, and they called the match off and it was


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[Assistant] So lame. But also, when I saw that there was only 25 minutes left of the show, I thought, well, these two aren't having a match. And, and they didn't.


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[Assistant] I said in my review, it feels like they're dragging their feet because they don't really know where the storyline is going.


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[Assistant] But at the same time Gargano did say to Miz, like, if you don't come clean I'm gonna blow the whistle on all of this. So like there's, there's, and maybe I am just clinging onto something here.


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[Assistant] I feel like, against all, like, logic, I'm like, next week is gonna be the big angle.


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[Assistant] I used to troll Pete and Tempest on the Smackdown review with the Naomi and Sonya Deville storyline, which never progressed and just went on for like eight months but didn't actually move anywhere and then it just ended. But I used to joke with them and be like, yeah, it's long term storytelling, lads.


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[Assistant] And essentially said in his promo, yeah, Ezekiel's not coming back, that storyline was stupid and we're not doing it anymore.


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[Assistant] Yes, absolutely. A great, and like, cause he's now like in this US title picture, and that is a really good slot for him.


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[Assistant] He's not going anywhere higher. Seth Rollins is a guy that can go up and he can go back down to that mid card and will feel right in both places. And elevate the mid card. Yeah, exactly, yeah. And I think Riddle is another one of those guys, but...


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[Assistant] Elias? Yep. It's a great mid card act. Great. And I love him for that. And, uh, Beta Matril came down, they did some comedy, then Seth Rollins came out, Elias was a babyface.


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[Assistant] The main event of this show was Seth Rollins versus Matt Riddle for the US title. Very, very good match. It basically went straight into fifth gear and it just remained there. Played a lot of the fight pit match with Rollins trying to escape the


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[Assistant] And in the end he does knock over Elias, runs back into the ring, uh, Riddle runs wild, hits the, nearly goes to hit the arcade bro, but Elias gets in the ring,


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[Assistant] Him and Matt Riddle Clonk heads, that leads into a stomp. Rollins picks up the win and then he stomps Elias for good measure. But very much on commentary we're saying.


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[Assistant] Elias cast Matt Riddle in the US title there.


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[Assistant] My full island partridge mode here. Who is the best turtle?


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[Assistant] Leonardo, Donatello, Michelangelo, Raphael. Can I make a prediction, please? Raph, Don, Mikey, Leo. Right.


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[Assistant] That's my, that's my prediction. It may go Raph, Mikey, Don, Leo, but that is wrong. This is a poll exclusively for you. This is for an audience of one. I mean, as we all know, it's, it's Don, Raph, Mikey, Leo, as we all know that. All of us know. Because all of us have played turtles in time, so we all know that Donny is the best choice. Also, he's just the best turtle. That's, that's,


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[Assistant] So anyway, yeaah, that poll will go in a minute. But anyway, like, so, what I liked about this is that afterwards Ali came down and he ran off Riddle, uh, Seth Rollins rather, sorry, Seth Rollins hightails it into the crowd and this and the other and stuff. And I really like this because we've now got, get this,


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[Assistant] A United States Championship that has a storyline.


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[Assistant] It has a feud. Not only that, it has four active players in this picture now that are fractured into two separate storylines of Rollins and Ali and Riddle and Elias. You can do a fatal four way off the back of that. You can exchange the four of those rounds in different matches.


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[Assistant] Suddenly, for the first time in the trips era, the US title has a point, and it has a purpose.


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[Assistant] And for a brand that does not have a top men's title, they have needed this.


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[Assistant] I think that Ali is Leo, which makes Elias Donatello I guess?


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[Assistant] Because Mikey is the fun-loving stoner. Raph is the brooding one.


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[Assistant] Leo is the one that stands up for, like, truth and honour and justice, and that's Donatello.


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[Assistant] And then that sort of leaves, oh sorry, Leonardo rather. And Donatello, he's the guy that does machines. And I suppose you could say that instruments- A keyboard is a machine. Is a keyboard is a machine. I think if you were to watch, um, uh, what was that, Stephen King movie, uh, Maximum Overdrive. Which I haven't.


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[Assistant] Which is where, like, because of the orbit of the moon, machines come alive and they start to kill humans. Right. I think that in Stephen King's Maximum Overdrive, in which he said that he did a whole lot of cocaine, he doesn't actually remember making it.


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[Assistant] That, uh, the keyboard would try and kill someone. So yes, I think that Donatello does machines, therefore Elias is Donatello.


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[Assistant] Once this episode is finished, I'm going to direct you to go over to the WrestleTalk channel. Now I know what you're thinking, but I've already watched your raw review, Luke. Oh. But wait, there's more. Oli Davis and I did a WrestleTalk reacts today talking about Dave Meltzer's shoot promo that he cut on Tony Khan, and


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[Assistant] Basically having a discussion and a bit of a debate about AEW's lack of transparency that has come around the CM Punk Elite storyline, which is what Dave is quite upset to Tony Khan about. We have a bit of a debate about whether or not AEW do need to.


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[Assistant] Explain themselves or give some clarity or give some transparency to...


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[Assistant] Abby, here comes the pain, social media manager, Tempest, and Rosie Nichols! Lovely Rosie, so it's going to be a grand old time. We're going to be recording that in about 10 minutes or so. Uhm, but if you want to get your name read out on this show, back as of the $25


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[Assistant] You'll get your name read out like these fine folks. The number one villain, Nikolai Martinhausen. Peter Fiber Brantua.


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[Assistant] And that is your Hall of Fame class for October the 18th, 2022. Thank you all so much for your support on Patreon, we greatly appreciate it. Next week, Oli Davis and I will be reviewing TNA Bound for Glory 2005.


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[Assistant] And also, uh, thank you to everyone if you are one of our audio listeners because we celebrated our fifth anniversary of WrestleTalk Extra, uh, recently. We loaded into the free feed of the podcast my, uh, me and Adam from a couple of years ago reviewing WCPW Built to Destroy, which was WCPW's first show they did.


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[Assistant] It's not the Rampage Brown one though, but it's the precursor to that because it's Adam representing Rampage Brown versus, uh, Big Demo.


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[Assistant] With Jack the Jobber in his corner. With the big heel turn and everything. And crucially, Adam blowing his spot.


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[Assistant] I can't possibly believe he would do such a thing. So we go into detail about that. Adam talks a lot about the, the what culture days and about the origins of WCPW, how matches and things came together like that. It's a really fascinating episode and I really, really enjoyed doing it. Um, so it's available in the free feed right now.


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[Assistant] Uh, over to your UltraChats, restalk.com forward slash support. Frankenfoot has said, JBL is a legend now because of great promo work. Now he's actually retired when he quit, and all the YouTube lists obsessing over the Blue Meanie. Also, variety is the spice of life. So Dan, try some Slayer, and Luke, try some Pokemon. It's okay now, the Seven Years don't care.


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[Assistant] And also, let's not, I mean, I know that I wrote Carolyn now, but let's not downplay what JBL did to the blue myth.


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[Assistant] Uh, I had the same friend conversation with Luke, but they only knew Rocky Maia via.


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[Assistant] I'm wrong. Maybe we're wrong. Maybe. Hector Rodriguez, who's been a member for 10 months in a row, said, so are we getting a fatal four-way for the US title at Crown Jewel, or am I over-analyzing the situation from last night? Also, morning everyone from New Mexico.


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[Assistant] It was in the end. Also, big thank you to them for the email that you sent.


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[Assistant] January, through to about sort of May, June, July. Perfect. Little there Roy Jetson. I imagine a parallel universe version of Baron Corbin is in Seth Rollins' heel spot and Seth is a top baby face. I don't think that exists.


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[Assistant] Well yea, I suppose you're right. Maybe if I fall asleep and I think about it, then that'll be the one.


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[Assistant] Sky Shadow Run said, I wanted to ask how you both felt about the women's division under Triple H. To me the matches are fun, but the division feel feels a bit lacking. Not numbers wise, but storyline wise. I know things take time to change, but it is slightly disappointing. I actually kind of agree.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Right, DR. Random question time. Galas and Anderson need to talk more. They are a fantastic duo. Dominic's hair seems to be getting worse, especially after a few minutes of sweat.