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[Assistant] That there's two tiers of justice. There's a tier of justice for the owners and for the players. And they actually mentioned Jerry Jones and they mentioned Robert Kraft and they mentioned Daniel Snyder. And today I saw this morning that there's a report that has been leaked. I don't know by whom.


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[Assistant] That this Dan Snyder investigation into his, into the allegations against him.


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[Assistant] It's a tough read. It's a very tough read. So it looks like they might have already taken the gloves off and fired the first salvo. Do you think that's a wise move from the NFLPA to sort of put that crowbar in this circumstance here to let the league know you better be careful because you've got a lot of dirty laundry in your closet and we're going to put it out on a line for everyone to see.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna force one of the owners to sell his team are you good with that?


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[Assistant] There were citizens that looked at internal reviews and said, well, wait a minute. How are you going to look into some wrongdoing amongst your family and then go outside the family and tell everybody what really happened? So we kind of looked at that internal review process as crooked from jump.


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[Assistant] And Congress has in the past threatened to take that away. But they didn't.


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[Assistant] The league got tired of taking so much flack for penalties that were either too lenient or too harsh. So they said this, they went to the players union, they got their heads together and said, let's just agree on an outside person. That person is Sue Robinson.


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[Assistant] It can't continue that way if the player, and it seems like the player's association for the first time is really ready to fight back.


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[Assistant] The league is going to tell the players association, you're going to bring this whole thing down. By putting this dirty laundry out, you're going to bring the whole thing down. Well, do you really want that?


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[Assistant] He was close to giving us a name, by the way.


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[Assistant] It is trademark. And I hope he's getting royalties. I doubt it. I doubt it too. They ain't cutting no checks. Nobody does it like that.


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[Assistant] Well, I did. It is a smart mention. It would have been maybe number five or an honorable mention because when they did that, everybody was like, what did they just do? They just drafted a guy at that position two picks earlier. Who the hell drafts two point guards in the


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[Assistant] There was a stretch. What happened was he saw that he was below 500 and I was watching his face. He saw it on the screen and he was like, man, that's so...


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[Assistant] It's not going to happen. It ain't going to happen. Two really good pitches. Perhaps I'm still taking it. Guardians are hitting.


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[Assistant] I mean, I didn't, some guys do. Jim Donovan doesn't. All of the lead-ins are scripted. It's just whether or not they decide they want to read them or not the way they're scripted.


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[Assistant] They, it's almost like state-run media.


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[Assistant] They cover the sports that they're in business with. And for years they were out of the NHL business and the NHL did not exist. As far as I know, one person on payroll for SportsCenter


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[Assistant] And that was Barry Melrose. And he was our hockey guy. And so we would do one or two segments a week.


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[Assistant] And I'm sure there are people at Park Avenue that are talking to the PA saying you're going to burn this whole thing down if you're not careful. Right. And step one is underway.


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[Assistant] You are kidding. And it might be too late. Because if they're gonna ask Snyder to come before Congress, guess what? This could ultimately end up with him selling this franchise. And think about it like this.


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[Assistant] So, they're not finding seagulls. They're finding eagles.


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[Assistant] Everybody's gonna try that. You be yourself. Yes. Nailed it. And here's why. When I worked at ESPN and even in my other day job where it's a little more formal, I used to think like you have to be


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[Assistant] And my bosses were shortsighted and they maintained that you're gonna wear a suit and tie. So every day for 16 years I wore a shirt and tie. What I was telling them and they refused to listen to is,


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[Assistant] One thing that I think works in TV, and you know this as well as anyone, and it worked in radio, and we're working now for you in TV, is authenticity sells.


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[Assistant] That's your success. People know you're a Joe Sixpack. You're an everyday guy and you talk about that every day on the air. You can be yourself when you feel like yourself. I never felt like myself in a suit.


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[Assistant] I come to this show, I don't wear socks, I wear t-shirts, which I wear what I wear every day. Right. When I'm having conversations with sports fans about sports things. So it's easier to be ourselves here. Take the typhus that has blossomed on this set to Chicago and


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[Assistant] I'm not saying be the same while, you know, like, there will be some parameters for you, but be you.


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[Assistant] Let your personality out. You works. People like you. You're a genuinely nice and likable guy.


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[Assistant] When you fake who you are on date one, you're in trouble. Yep. Cause either you're gonna have to do that successfully the rest of your life, or she's finally gonna see through it and be like, dude, that's not who you were on date one. So be you and they will like you. You're gonna do great. You're gonna do wonderful.


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[Assistant] However, if you or your sister would care to extend the invitation, whether be, please feel free to do so.


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[Assistant] That's very kind, but I mustn't detain you. However, I must confess that I, I did hope for the opportunity to speak to you, Mr. Schmidt.


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[Assistant] Your sister is a person of very strong and fixed ideas, I think.


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[Assistant] She doesn't approve of such things as second attachments, I believe.


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[Assistant] So in her eyes, all such attachments are equally false. She makes no distinction for those unfortunate people who may have been disappointed in their first choice.


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[Assistant] When the romantic refinements of a young mind at last are obliged to give way, then is the danger.


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[Assistant] Zanya's finished. Keisetsu still has a sword left. And poor Zanya has no way of blocking it.


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[Assistant] Are you here for the Ozzo Buddy Cup 2?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I thought I'd check it out. Cool! Maybe we'll fight each other!


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[Assistant] You're what? Knew it. You work for wisdom?


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[Assistant] Who's that? Sly threw up coos. Some junior high student.


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[Assistant] I'm not laughing, I'm just trying not to sneeze. It is not my destiny to laugh at this.


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[Assistant] When we left Greenmore Park the other day, I went back later with Athora, and we managed to sneak in. Huh? I couldn't stop worrying about that guy Keisetsu, but when I got inside, I ran into Zanya. Zanya?


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[Assistant] And we also found out something else. Keisetsu is still working for Wisdom. No way. So Wisdom's connected to Grimoire Park.


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[Assistant] All right. Shout out to the Hootad Nation, man. We in this thing. Late episode of the coma coming live in direct right at you. Shout out to the fam on this very busy and popping


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[Assistant] Dave for the black and gold. We got some news on Kendre Miller. We'll cover that momentarily.


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[Assistant] But the biggest scoop of the day is the fact that we got some good news on Kendre Miller. We also have some good news in terms of the Saints picking up a running back as the Saints add depth with running back Darrell Williams signing him.


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[Assistant] To a deal to come to the black and gold. Pretty positive, pretty popping.


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[Assistant] All gravy. So shout out to the, who that nation appreciate y'all being in this late stream. We'll hold you guys for very long. Just wanted to talk at you right quick.


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[Assistant] Uh, shout out to Elite, Jamaica, T-Dirty, King Morrison, K-Man.


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[Assistant] Good to see y'all. OG Jerry in the building, Zandale and the rest of the fam. Appreciate you. What's up Axxon Jackson? How you doing fam? Appreciate you.


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[Assistant] Good to see y'all in here. Much love to everybody, man. Thank y'all.


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[Assistant] For jumping and jumping on in. So please do me a service. What's up, Richard? Uh, please feel free to share the link on your social media feed, hit the subscribe button if you're not a subscriber and by all means hit the notification bell as well as we keep it popping. So big news of the day. Saints get a running back in running back. Williams goes into the depth chart, helps out the black and gold. And of course we knew, uh,


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[Assistant] We looked at, there were several running back signings today that happened. We know.


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[Assistant] About Delvin Cook signing his deal, I think with the, with the Jets, uh, Zeke Elliott's potential deal with the New England Patriots and then the Saints reach down the, the free agency bandwagon and we're able to.


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[Assistant] Grab or the free agency running back room and we're able to grab.


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[Assistant] Uh, Mr. Williams and bring him on the team, former LSU guy, a very good north south runner. That'll fit well here. Shout out to brother John. How you doing, sir? John Singleton, shout out to you. Appreciate you. Uh, swag fan as well. Appreciate you. It's a solid signing.


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[Assistant] Uh, as well, uh, 504Co, how you doing? St. Doug, shout out to you, brother. Good to see y'all in the chat. Much love to everybody. This is an interesting signing for the Saints cause it does.


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[Assistant] Definitely help the running back rum and remember.


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[Assistant] Kamaris there, Kendre Miller was dinged up, didn't look really good in the matchup fam. Going into the game.


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[Assistant] He didn't look really good. He didn't look good. He had what, four or five carries for like an average of a yard per carry. Uhm, he just didn't look like his usual decisive, powerful self. Like we seen him in college. We seen him during free, uh, through the training camp.


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[Assistant] Didn't look the same in the game. I'm like, well, yeah, and that's some of the things, you know, he could have been banged up on. I'm not saying that's official, but to me, just saying to me.


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[Assistant] He looked like he was banged up in the game. I don't know when it happened. If it happened before, sometimes guys kind of hold back on how they feeling or whatever. And then later on you find out what time it is, but it's nothing serious.


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[Assistant] So we'll get it popping. Jules are probably doing fine. Appreciate you as well. So let's get into this article right here on saints, uh, on the saints from the who that daily.com y'all can check it out. Please, please feel free to go to that shell article as we get going and.


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[Assistant] Niles Carpenter, our Saints contributor, wrote this article and a lot of this was sourced from...


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[Assistant] Nick Underhill, he dropped some good science on it. Saints have made a strategic move by signing running back Darrell Williams. According to the information from Nick Underhill, Williams who spent his initial four seasons with the Chiefs faced stiff competition with the team's depth chart during the time. However, in 21 seasons saw


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[Assistant] A turning point for Williams as he garnered increased playing time.


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[Assistant] Making seven starts and showcasing his versatility, the 28 year old athlete capitalized on his opportunities, delivering an impressive performance that transferred to 558 Russian yards, along with six touchdowns accompanied by an additional 452 receiving yards with two touchdowns attached.


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[Assistant] At the Saints, as the Saints navigate a scenario where star running back Elvin Kamara is temporarily absent, a significant portion of the backfield responsibilities now rest on the shoulders of newly acquired free agent Jamal Williams and third round rookie Kendre Miller. Unfortunately.


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[Assistant] Additionally, the Sanks explored their options by conducting a workout with former Green Bay Packer running back Kaelin Hill and further highlighting their commitment to reinforcing


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[Assistant] The running back lineup and you can see both tweets by Nick Underhill.


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[Assistant] Sign, uh, Darryl, Darryl Williams. And then of course he had the other tweet, Sanks also worked out Kaelin Hill.


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[Assistant] So with the signing of Williams and the dynamic mix of established players and promising rookies, the Saints are making strategic moves to ensure a robust and versatile backfield even in the absence of key players. Key personnel players of course is Elvin Kamara.


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[Assistant] You know, and despite and notice, and like I said, I can't, I just love how the saints were able to do this because this is really interesting.


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[Assistant] There, you know, it's very interesting because all the saints roll in these things like injuries occur, they're proactively jumping right on it.


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[Assistant] They're jumping right on it and they're taking it, taking care of it. So that's really positive and popping to see them operating like that. So pretty cool.


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[Assistant] All right, 504 code shout out to you fam. Appreciate you. Says, uh, what's up, Joe? How you doing, sir? Uh, he says, uh, cute. Why didn't I pick it up for net? Now listen, bro.


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[Assistant] I knew absolutely nothing about this. So shout out to our, our favorite Rastafarian, my dog DC. Uh, listen, he was hitting on this and he was telling me some stuff and I don't really want to repeat it, but it was street stuff. And for those who know what I'm saying, they know what I'm saying on the street stuff and, uh, about the relationship from a personal, uh, perspective between the Farnett family and the, uh, well, what's his name, uh,


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[Assistant] The Tyron Matthew and Linda Farnett. So it's some history there.


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[Assistant] Family wise, I'm just going to leave it at that. That could have, you know, that could have been a part of this whole dynamic, why they went in a different direction. That's just street stuff. Now DC kind of educated me on that stuff, so shout out to him for sprinkling that game in my ear.


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[Assistant] I don't know if that's the main reason why that happened, but me personally.


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[Assistant] I was saying to myself, Leonard Fennett is a guy that would be an interesting pick up for the Saints. He's there. You know, it wouldn't cost you a lot of money, but.


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[Assistant] Deep down, and you know, shout out to Bob Rose, who wrote an article, had Darrell Williams on that list. He was down there, but you know, he's also, he's straight out, he's from a railroad, Louisiana. So he's a local guy. He went to LSU.


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[Assistant] Uh, in his capacity with the Kansas city chiefs that was popping and positive as well.


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[Assistant] So getting him here is not a bad move for the team to be honest with you, to be able to add him for what you're going to do with him. He's a North-South power runner who has the ability to catch the ball out the backfield.


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[Assistant] So just some street stuff right there, but you know, it is what it is and we still get the power. We still get the guy that can catch him. We still get an LSU running back. He's just not as known as, uh, Linda Fernandez.


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[Assistant] All right. So shout out. What's up, Pam? How you doing? She's AQ. Who that family I stay is over. Let's get back to work. That's right. We rolling.


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[Assistant] Getting close to Tuesday, man. Tomorrow is Patreon Tuesday for the family members as well.


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[Assistant] Alright, so let's keep it going fam, as we move on. So yeaah, so Williams is the sign, and the Saints tried out too. Uh, they picked up Williams, which is a smart move. It's not gonna eh, you know.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna have to look up the contract, but I don't think it's an expensive move for the Sinks to be able to get Williams in here.


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[Assistant] And he's a veteran with some ability that can still solidify the room. So very positive as far as that goes. All right. Let's, let's keep it moving and move on to the next thing here.


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[Assistant] As we go into the Kendra Miller situation, we talk about Kendra Miller and what was happening with him. Uh, he injured his knee in pre, in the preseason opener. The Saints rookie running back Kendra Miller left Sunday's preseason game against the Chiefs with a knee injury, potentially dealing another blow to the inning.


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[Assistant] Pretty much the rest of the regular season, they're going some Rashid Shahid type stuff. So that's also a positive that he'll be ready. Won't stop nothing.


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[Assistant] And of course they've mentioned that he came off the field in the third quarter and went to the tent. We know what time it is. Saints will be shorting.


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[Assistant] Short handed to begin the season if they don't sign. And this was yesterday, like I said, they did get Darryl Williams. The Saints hosted free agent Kareem Hunt last week.


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[Assistant] You know, Benjamin ruptured his Achilles. That was a part of the game, but rookie Mel Ellis Marriwether had a very.


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[Assistant] You know, had some more reps in the game as well showing what he can do.


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[Assistant] Uh, for the Saints and then of course you had Kamara Williams and then of course they had Darrell Williams into the mix. Kirk Merritt was injured as well. So the Saints saying that, you know, we need it. So we talked about Kirk Merritt being a guy that the Saints can move over to the running back room. He's dealing with an injury as well. So the Saints just said, let me go to the street and go pick up some guys that can help us move this thing along. So let's then also look at the current depth chart here. As we keep it moving and you see some of the Saints depth chart here.


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[Assistant] Uh, in terms of if we go to where the running backs are, you can see Jamal Williams right here.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's the first out Kendrick Merritt who's banged up and Alice Merritt whether you see Daryl Williams is right here. So.


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[Assistant] It's cool because what you get is still in all this thing, still have a powerful running back room. Kendra Miller is a positive cause Kendra Miller, uh, is, uh, going according to the report should be ready for week one against the Tennessee Titans. That's a positive.


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[Assistant] Uh, we got Williams here, the free agent running back. We just signed.


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[Assistant] They help out there, so that's a positive. Of course, we're going to be without Elvin tomorrow for the first three weeks of the season.


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[Assistant] Until we get to Tampa Bay, uh, Ellis Merriweather, he should get some more carries as we get further on. And it appears that the Saints really like Ellis Merriweather a lot. They brought him in here and they like what he brings to the running back room. He runs hard as hell.


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[Assistant] And he's an interesting character for the saints, so we'll see if they keep kind of moving in that direction.


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[Assistant] Uh, going into the season because Jamal Williams and Elvin Kamara will have some spots and then when the second team rollout, you see Ellis Merriweather.


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[Assistant] On, in the second half doing this thing, we'll see Williams, uh, come out there as well. So saints, the, the reality is this though fam.


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[Assistant] You see the saints operating, the saints are moving in a way like if something happens, like injuries happen, they're right on it. They're very proactive. And that's the, uh, like a tall tale sign that the saints are serious.


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[Assistant] I remember last year we had injuries at the defensive line position.


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[Assistant] The Sanks would go and look at a practice squad, defensive tackle, put them on a practice squad. Nothing really major happened. This time around, they're not taking any shorts. It's a different.


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[Assistant] Uh, reaction level that they're playing with here because they understand the seriousness of what they're facing. We talked about this before with all the renovations to the dome. They took all escalators out. They spent a lot of taxpayer money.


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[Assistant] A lot of hundreds of millions of dollars renovating the Superdome and they want, they're anticipating a big profit year for the Saints.


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[Assistant] It happens if the saints are successful, that's why they spend all this money.


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[Assistant] On the offense, changing around, adding some offensive head coaches, uh, assistant coaches, pardon me, to the offensive room, adding guys to the defensive room, getting a new defensive coordinator here.


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[Assistant] I'm changing everything, making it comfortable for Dennis. It's all about Dennis Allen. As Dennis is out, Dennis Allen's world is not showing Peyton's world no more, but Dennis Allen had to fit in and see if he can win with Peyton's coaches.


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[Assistant] All that done changed. He done got all his guys in this. So it's Dennis Allen's world. You got his quarterback that he wanted. He got the draft picks that he wanted.


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[Assistant] You got the coaching, the assistant coaching personnel in that he wanted. It says, this is not Sean Payton's world anymore, even though the offensive.


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[Assistant] side of the team bears some of his identity in terms of his philosophy with the West Coast offense.


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[Assistant] But when you look around everywhere else, it's Dennis Allen's world. And if you look at Dennis Allen during the press conferences and training camp, doesn't he have more of a...


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[Assistant] Uh, a more relaxed feel about it. He looks at his energy level, his aura, even how he talks to the press is more head coachy, if that's a word.


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[Assistant] But you know, we'll see if it translates into success, but the energy is right. That's all I can say. The energy is right.


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[Assistant] The energy is right. So you got a team that has a ton of talent that have chip on their shoulders and they're very proactive if things pop up.


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[Assistant] They're there on it. You know, they're in the free agency. We got injuries in the running back room. They're bringing running backs in to take the workout to listen to.


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[Assistant] And then ultimately what they do, boom, the guys that make the most sense, they're signing them. They're doing some very solid moves on all phases of the game.


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[Assistant] And you gotta respect the hell out of that, man. So all this could translate into something.


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[Assistant] All right, so anyway, shout out to the fam, man. Appreciate y'all. What's up RG? What's poppin'? What's happenin', my man?


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[Assistant] Uh, Dana, what's up, queen? Shout out to the queens and kings of the coma, man. Appreciate y'all being here. Nolan Ball, shout out to you, fam. Appreciate you, sir. Alright, much love to the fam. Alright, so anyway.


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[Assistant] Molly Mall, shout out to you, brother. All right. Good to see you out there as well.


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[Assistant] And anyway, that's some of the stuff that we're going to talk about, not fam, before we get ready to roll.


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[Assistant] Cause like I told you, I wouldn't go hold y'all long. You know what I'm saying? I'm not a like, like old.


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[Assistant] Oh, um, uh, Christian minister, you know, I'm not going to hold y'all alone. And then five hours later, y'all still sitting up here pissed because you missed the game and every damn thing. But anyway.


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[Assistant] You know, the ref, the minister, if he a good one to tell you, hey man, I'm trying to save your soul to hell with that game. You can tivo that thing or re, you know, or play it back. You don't want to hear that though.


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[Assistant] You know, I reacted to McAfee's full interview that he did with Jimmy Graham, which is pretty cool. Seeing Jimmy Graham flying in airplanes and he


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[Assistant] Flies, planes, and helicopters. He says he has several licenses, several dozen licenses in the space. I'm not, if I'm correct.


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[Assistant] And just the type of stuff that he does and all this stuff that he does, which pretty cool. But he also talked about his, his, uh.


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[Assistant] His idea about the Saints team and what he could bring and, you know, the reason why he's back in New Orleans, that type of stuff. But in this show, McAfee kind of talks about, um, the Saints and.


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[Assistant] What he sees from the saints in Derek Hall and his thought process on his soul. That's right. That's right, Pammy.


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[Assistant] I'm on the clock, baby. I'm on the clock. K-Man, what's up fam? RB went from a position of strength to, yeaah, I know this is, this is the, and that's what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] I really like the fact how they're, they're very proactive. That's just something that we didn't see during the season. Like prior to the season getting there, they made their moves. But when the season started,


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[Assistant] They didn't take that energy into the end season from the off season and it didn't, it just failed. You know, had they taken that in there, we would have had a better outing. This time around, it feels a little different. So yeah, indeed.


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[Assistant] We have, uh, the media, national media is actually on the same side this year and a lot of the who that's the only Glen Jones stuff right now.


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[Assistant] You know, after seeing last year, and I can't be mad at them, but the national media, they got short memories. They got, you know, they got short memories and amnesia and every damn thing else.


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[Assistant] But listen to what Pat McAfee had to say about the Saints, man. It should, uh, kind of make you a little happy. Here goes McAfee. Put one in the chat if y'all can hear this, man. Here we go.


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[Assistant] The drive was a very good drive for the Saints. It really was. The Derek Carr drive was very good.


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[Assistant] The, the him getting down there into the red zone and how comfortably we're able to get the ball in the end zone.


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[Assistant] With him making, going through the progressions, you can see he scanned from left to right, found the receiver, and threw the ball ahead.


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[Assistant] So the receiver, he's absolutely right to the spot.


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[Assistant] Keith Kirkwood made a great catch. Got both feet down and more than enough time touchdown. Now.


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[Assistant] We know that, you know, when you go over and we talked about this previously, uh, that the success of the saints.


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[Assistant] In terms of, you know, it'll be a large part of it is Derek Carr because he's at the prima donna position. You got the QB position. You gotta have a guy that knows what he's doing.


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[Assistant] Uh, there for you to have success in the NFL. If you don't have a quarterback there that can do what he's supposed to do, you end up like the Tampa Bay skunkineers and a few other teams that ain't pretty good.


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[Assistant] He is familiar with the West Coast offense, even if it's a John Gruden style, even though he got John Gruden in here. And I think I don't have anything to prove. This is just my instinct here. I think it was more Carr than, uh, Dennis Allen in terms of getting Gruden here.


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[Assistant] It helped him really lock into what the Saints is gonna do. But anyway, the idea is Saints are leaving no stones, no stone unturned to make sure they.


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[Assistant] Bridge any gaps that they have to make this just to guarantee as much as they possibly can a successful playoff series of playoff season.


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[Assistant] You know, this is what this is about. There's these type of moves that you make when you bring and give you this guy this kind of money, their car that is.


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[Assistant] Bringing back the full offensive line from last year for continuity purposes.


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[Assistant] Attempting to fortify it with depth, which is what they usually do. Finding the best backup offensive lineman. Spending draft picks on the defense.


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[Assistant] Saints read up with Cam, making sure he's happy, you know.


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[Assistant] Uh, getting the pass rush of the future and Isaiah Foskey, Peyton Turner's turning it up.


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[Assistant] They brought in two guys, soon as Oniyomata and Shytuttle was out of here. I think it was the next day or less than 20 hours, 24 hours later. They had, uh,


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[Assistant] Both Saunders and then I think Shepherd signed first, then Saunders.


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[Assistant] And then when the draft came along, they picked up Bricey and Foskey.


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[Assistant] With the first and second round picks then proceeded to get a.


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[Assistant] Would they possibly believe a replacement for Elvin Kamara down the line and Kendre Miller, who's an absolute beast.


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[Assistant] And then all this other stuff. So A.T. Perry who has six catches on six targets in the touchdown in the game. So the Saints flowed and looked good with the first team unit. And then of course, as we got from the second to the third, there was a bit of a drop off there.


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[Assistant] But still in all, what we've seen from the Saints in that drive was very good.


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[Assistant] Very good. You see Michael Thomas get a catch. The Saints moved the ball quite effortlessly. They were able to offensive line block pretty well. They were able to do what they had to do. So.


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[Assistant] I don't know what they look like going into the second game in terms of do Dennis Allen rolls out Derrick Carr in the first team again for the first series of the second preseason game. I have no idea. We'll find that out.


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[Assistant] But at the end, the Saints had a very good outing in terms of us seeing what this expensive offense looks like with Jimmy Graham and all these other guys.


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[Assistant] So when you see that, you got to think them bringing in Groot and them bringing in Joe Woods on the defensive side and then Dennis Allen doesn't have to take all of the extra responsibilities of being a coach when he's trying to


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[Assistant] That's his hand pick guy, uh, and several other coaches on the defensive side, new defensive line coach. That's his guy, new secondary coach. That's his guy.


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[Assistant] So he has multiple guys. He has assistant coaches that he picked up on the form of defensive, uh, backs, uh, defensive back that play form in Raider land, Giordano or whatever his name is. He's an assistant on the team. So all these, these, all these, most majority positions are littered with Dennis Allen appointees. So this team is Dennis Allen's squad.


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[Assistant] Second year, I got to give it to him. He looks really comfortable, but does it translate into wins? That's what we need to see right now. My crystal ball is currently cracked and on the fritz. It will be repaired at for the first week of the season. So we'll just have to wait and see. I don't have the crystal ball.


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[Assistant] It's cracked and broken because of, I ain't going to tell you how I got cracked and broken, but it is what it is. All right. So anyway, that's a Pat McAfee.


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[Assistant] Dropping this game there and, uh, he's very excited. A lot of the who that nation.


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[Assistant] It's very excited about the potentiality of what the Saints represent in the 2023 season. Yes, we are. We are very excited about this. So the big news of the Dave family is ultimately the fact that the Saints did add


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[Assistant] Running back Williams from Kansas city. He was at LSU. Thumper running back also has some ability to be able to catch the ball out the backfield. He will fit perfectly into the backup role as the Saints. He won't, the Saint running back, he won't cost you a lot of money. He has some experience and he's a north south thumper, which we can keep the pressure on.


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[Assistant] I'm looking forward to seeing him in the next upcoming game, him and, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] The linebacker we just picked up, Smith. So we'll be looking pretty good for that. All right, Andrew shout out to you, brother. How you doing?


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[Assistant] Uh, tonight on the stream, much love. He says, I don't, uh, he says, I don't like third string QB. He was trash, couldn't move the ball.


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[Assistant] You know, he did some positive things toward the end and, uh, the third quarter was just horrible. The offense died in the third quarter. It was just.


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[Assistant] You know, it didn't feel good, but they caught fire in the fourth. They had to turn over and then ultimately he still was able to get.


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[Assistant] Uh, in the end zone, they had to play when he got into the end zone with the running back.


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[Assistant] And then finally the field goal right there about a backup kicker actually kicked the Saints into a victory. So the reality is like.


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[Assistant] You want to see all of your players. And remember a lot of these guys, like especially Jay Hanger, they're playing with third stringers.


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[Assistant] You know, I kind of think about how would Jake Hayner look in a first team offense?


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[Assistant] I would James Winston, we know what James looked like, but what would Jake Hayner look like in the third, in the first team offense or even the second team offense, whether offensive linemen or better.


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[Assistant] He has the time to go through his progressions. Some of the wide receivers are better. Everybody's a level or two, maybe a level higher.


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[Assistant] Then that guy, that's why they end third string. So you see a lot of those third stringer guys.


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[Assistant] In there when he's playing, so guys blow blocks, guys, uh, you know, drop passes.


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[Assistant] You know, he, him, he himself was throwing the ball.


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[Assistant] Uh, he was, you could tell he was a bit nervous for his first outing in the preseason. I think he'll settle down in the next matchup because you're going to see a lot of Jay Kainer more than any other quarterback over the next two games. No doubt about it. So.


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[Assistant] I'm anticipating him, like, his throw, uh, to, uh, Brian, to Brian Edwards.


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[Assistant] Was just, what was that? You know, you put it down in this chest where he has an opportunity. He was throwing it up high. I thought he had a little nerves going on in the third quarter, but ultimately I think you'll, you'll see better outings from Hayner over the next two preseason matchups because that's the quarterback you're going to see more than anybody. Yeah, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he'll learn family. That's just, listen, he looked better than Ian Book. Remember we, I don't know if you've seen the Philadelphia game when Ian Book was in there.


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[Assistant] But to me, Jake Hanger looked better than Ian Book. You know, I'm just going to throw that Ian Book in there, man. I think he looked a lot better than him.


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[Assistant] Guys from LSU and, you know, and that, so that's not bad.


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[Assistant] All right, Cap, man, how you doing, sir? He says, what's y'all grade on Trevor?


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[Assistant] Penning, I think Trevor Penning had a nasty mean pancake.


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[Assistant] Like he was angry with somebody. I think him, I think he has the potential to be something special. It's just the big thing about Pennings game is that he has to stay under control, which is he got into a little skirmish.


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[Assistant] Uh, at the practice, you know, but I think outside of that, that tends, that's pretty good because it shows his fire that you can't play with Trevor Pinnon. You can't play with him. Now the saints need that mentality from Pinnon.


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[Assistant] You know, because the reality is most of those guys don't have that meanness. I mean, Ram check used to have it until they gave him a boatload of cash. Now he loves everybody. I love everybody, everybody. He loved every damn body now.


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[Assistant] It's hugs and kisses and all this, uh, emojis. Everybody get a hug and kiss and, and, and, and, and lips emoji and all this kind of stuff. Since they gave him the boatload of cash Ram check, don't play with the same ferocity as he did. And he was banged up all that kind of stuff.


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[Assistant] But still in all, even if you banged up, you still ain't supposed to look like...


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[Assistant] A shell of yourself. I mean, this guy was really good. So we need them. We need him to get that anger to a degree that mainstream back. I've seen Cesar Ruiz plays with a little anger there. Andrus Pete from time to time does. McCoy is more a smooth brother, but you could


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[Assistant] But at times he, it'll, it'll come out. So we need to have.


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[Assistant] The nastiness mentality that Trevor Penning has.


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[Assistant] Because the Saints offensive line need that same nascent is under control, of course. I want it under control. So.


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[Assistant] I, I agreed him, he did okay in the game, but like I said, his biggest thing is he has to stay healthy, you know, to, to really, uh, you know, reach his potential. Trevor Penning has to stay healthy. So yeah, I like how Pennings, you just got to stand there and keep doing, keep getting those reps. He'll get better.


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[Assistant] I, Dana says our third string QB had a better day than Bryce Young and half the other rookie QBs that start. Thank you, Dana. Dana dropping some facts on you. And everybody was talking about, you know, you know, Bryce and all that Bryce was in there getting it handed to him.


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[Assistant] That offensive line for the Carolina Panthers, we know it's just their rookie.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, game, their first game with the rookie, but listen, let me tell you something. And that's one of the things I was saying.


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[Assistant] Is that you going to have to protect that guy and you added all these skilled people.


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[Assistant] You added all these, you know, shout out to Terrence Marshall Jr. I heard he got carted off the field. Shout out to him. He's LSU guy.


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[Assistant] But the, uh, you look at what the Carolina Panthers have, they have to do something about protecting Bryce Young. You can't let guys just be, you know, I mean, those guys were getting beaten.


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[Assistant] And getting in there and taking shots on them. I mean, not like gingerly shots, I mean, shots and knocking him on his ass. You know, you can't do that. That will not work. That will not work. So Frank Wright is going to have to figure a way how to fix that thing. And I care a lot of people say, don't worry about it, Q. We're going to be fine.


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[Assistant] You know, because I could be pointing to you and tell you, hey, listen, bro, in several weeks from now, we're going to be coming in and doing the same shit that them people was doing to you in the first preseason game. Are we going to modify and make the, okay, we'll see.


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[Assistant] We're going to see, we're going to come in there and be knocking them around and all that kind of stuff and, and let that, that he ain't listen.


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[Assistant] No quarterback is made for that, but you didn't see that with Dennis, uh, with Derek Carr in there. Did you see people knocking Derek on his ass?


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[Assistant] You know, so I mean, like I said, you got to protect your quarterback, man. So good, good point on that day. Shout out to you on that. Yeah. Andrew says book was trash.


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[Assistant] Under control and stay healthy. Thank you, Bobby. That's, that's what we talking about.


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[Assistant] And put one of them big ol' Care Bear hearts on this. Well, I ain't gonna say, I ain't gonna say.


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[Assistant] iJoy says Jake was getting a lot of praise in camp and they.


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[Assistant] That can add some pressure. He'll be fine. I agree with you. Thank you for that, Joy. I agree wholeheartedly with you. I believe that, you know, that Jake Hayner has a lot of promise and you know, hearing who that nation kind of hard on our backup quarterbacks, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] To a degree, you know, we had like, we had Drew here for years and we were looking for guys that could potentially be, potentially be his heirs. And for when he was here, we had a laundry list of people we thought it would be Chase Daniels at first. He's Daniels was a guy that we love. We love Chase Daniels.


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[Assistant] But somebody overpaid for Chase Daniels. And for a while, Chase Daniels was like making more money than any backup quarterback in the league, which was crazy.


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[Assistant] But Chase Dan, we thought Chase Daniels was the guy. Then somebody picked him up. I think it was Philly or somebody else. Then he went elsewhere.


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[Assistant] Then we had kind of a rotating thing and then Sean Payton just decided, Hey man, I'm not good at developing young quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] So let me just go get guys that have four, five, six years worth of experience. And Teddy Bridgewater came in here. He had Teddy for a couple of years, got bored with him, then started picking up Taysom Hill, trying to make him a quarterback and then realized Taysom, yeah, he's Steve Young. Nah, nah, nah, not pump your brakes on that, John.


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[Assistant] So he got done with that. And then of course you've seen some other pieces come in here, but when you see.


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[Assistant] The traditional way of how people usually do it, like they'll have a veteran, like what the saints are doing right now.


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[Assistant] Derrick Carr is the quarterback for the next four years and the way it's setting up in his mind or how he was delivering is that once I and my contract is over with and I move on out the way.


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[Assistant] This is Jake Hanner's team. Now that's yet to be determined if Jake Hanner is going to be the quarterback of four years. That's a good ways off. But Jake Hanner does have a lot of promise. He does have the heart that a similar


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[Assistant] He's, he modeled his game after Drew. Don't mean he's going to be Drew, but he's a lot of potentiality in Jake Hayner.


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[Assistant] I think he was a little nervous, had a little butterflies there. He had a few throws that were too high. But I'm telling you, you'll see more of him in the next two preseason games than anybody. And I'm pretty sure you'll see a better outing from him going down the line. So shout out to you, Joy. Thank you for that.


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[Assistant] Alright Bryce, uh, uh, Nola says Bryce was looking like Danny.


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[Assistant] He gonna look a lot better, man. Trust me. They gotta, they gotta do something about those protections, man. They really do. Of course, I was just watching some film about putting Saunders in some short yard.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, yeah, man, listen, that old refrigerator parry move, man, that takes some imagination, man. That would be fun to see, to be honest with you, man. Jamica says, I don't ho- I hope they don't do Bryce like Justin Fields. Yeah, Fields, they were trying to trade Fields and they settled down with Fields, then they decided to give him a wide receiver and D in, uh,


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[Assistant] The former, uh, what's his name? From Carolina, the wide receiver. Carolina. They gave him, they traded him.


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[Assistant] There for the pick that, that they'd used to get bright showing Chicago gave him the top pick.


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[Assistant] And then they got DJ Moore. That's what I'm thinking. DJ Moore is the guy. Then they have Chase Claypool there. And then they added, then, you know, they had Mooney from Tulane, the little fantastic wide receiver Mooney, then the tight end, uh, Hamet or whatever it is. I say, damn, they got some really interesting pieces there, uh, with Justin Fields. My question is, how's the offensive line? That's the next question. Like,


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[Assistant] For these guys to have success and shout out to Jordan Love. Jordan Love looked really good in the Green Bay matchup, by the way. But the, the reality is like.


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[Assistant] Okay, for quarterbacks to have success, you've got to have a good offensive line. You got to be solid in the trenches.


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[Assistant] To protect that quarterback so you don't, he don't get knocked around and look what happened to James Winston.


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[Assistant] As he was behind the second, the second stringers.


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[Assistant] Offensive line and at first he was doing this thing, his, you know.


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[Assistant] And then Sax started, he started getting hit, then the Sax came and then.


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[Assistant] Or veteran quarterback that's almost a decade in the league. Look what pressure and sacks do to him. So you can imagine what that would do to a rookie quarterback or, you know, a young quarterback in there and his confidence. You know, I felt, I thought like when the Saints seen what happened, one of the worst rookie outings.


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[Assistant] I ever seen was against the Miami Dolphins, Saints and Dolphins when eating with a book.


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[Assistant] Was in there and book got the book thrown at him, man. I mean, he was in there. He got tore up in that game. That was one of the worst.


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[Assistant] Rookie quarterback outings that I've ever seen to a degree, it might've destroyed his confidence. Perhaps the saints seen that and say, you know what, let me let them go. Cause it was, if you think about it, it was no reasonable idea why you can say, listen, we're going to protect our, we see potential in him.


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[Assistant] After that happened, the Saints seen something, man, and say, and let the Eagles pick them off the practice squad. Well, you can have, we'll find somebody else. Something happened.


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[Assistant] You know, I was like, damn, does he recover from that? Cause that was the thing I was thinking like, man.


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[Assistant] I don't know, this young guy, that was one of the worst outings I ever seen. A rookie quarterback had to go through the saints.


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[Assistant] Probably would have done better if they'd have went on the street and find a veteran and threw him in there as opposed to do that to Ian. But I even question, ask the great St. Tank Tank and who that nation is.


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[Assistant] If Book didn't start in that game against the Miami Dolphins, would he still be on the Saints team today?


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[Assistant] I mean, it was so bad, perhaps that played a part of it. It had to play a part. Saints looked at him and said, mm.


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[Assistant] I think we're going to do, we're going to move on. It's, that's tough to get over, man. But yes, indeed. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I would say our quarterback, uh, Hayner, looked a lot better than, uh, poor Ian Bookman, who just continues to get the book thrown at him.


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[Assistant] DJ D Smooth, what's happening, brother? How you doing, sir? Appreciate you. Alright, Mark, how you doing, sir? He says, hard to believe Alex Collins died. He was only 20. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I, yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a lot. Man, listen, bro. This is some strange times here, Mark. Let me tell you something, bro. Very strange times going on.


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[Assistant] All right, DJ DeSmoot says, uh, Perry is going to be a diamond in the rough. Yeah, I know, bro. Hasta la vista to Tre'Quan Smith. That's all I got to say. The Sangs drafted him in the sixth round, AT Perry, that is.


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[Assistant] And they looking for somebody, he's a big receiver with speed and.


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[Assistant] And what I really liked about AT Perry in the game, and I said this in the recap show yesterday, was the fact that he, that touchdown.


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[Assistant] Look how much effort he had in that touchdown. He was hell bent on getting that in that end zone. He dived out, stretched out there, put the ball there, and then it went out of bounds, but you got to give him credit for.


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[Assistant] How he was able to, that, that was just straight out effort.


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[Assistant] And six targets, six catches to touchdown. The average is almost what? 11, 12 yards per catch. AT Perry had a phenomenal performance in the matchup yesterday. Phenomenal.


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[Assistant] And that's what the saints were looking for because they wanted big wide receivers who can catch and run. He is a member of that guarantee you AT Perry is not going to end up on no goddamn practice squad.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's the re- he's going to be the main reason why Trey Quan Smith pushed off this team to the practice squad.


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[Assistant] Uh, because of the way he's playing. Now, we got two more games left to play, but this is a hell of an impression. Your six round pick.


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[Assistant] And he just goes out there and do regular stuff and he should be fine.


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[Assistant] He should be fine. And if they keep a fifth wide receiver, more than likely they will.


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[Assistant] It'll probably be one of the kick returners like, uh, a Lynn Bowden jr. Perhaps a, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, what Kiki Colty got cut for, uh, for Smith & Lyon back or so is John Trey Kirkland.


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[Assistant] So, I mean, we'll see how it all shakes, man. But yeah, I've been telling people, man, look.


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[Assistant] The time's up for Traquan. We done gave him all of the smoke, all of the, all of the love we can possibly give him.


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[Assistant] And this time, man, the saints say, man, we need production there and we need a futuristic


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[Assistant] Guy with a high ceiling that, you know, you know, Mike is 31 years of age.


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[Assistant] Uh, he's getting up there in AT Perry with the rest of our young wide receivers. And listen, let me give a big shout out to wide receiver coach, Cody Byrne.


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[Assistant] Cody burns, shout out to wide receiver coach, Cody burns. The saints picked them up last year.


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[Assistant] And he's phenomenal, man. Cody Burns has done a hell of a job with these wide receivers. We've seen Shaq Davis in there making plays, but the team had a nice catch and late in the game to keep a drive alive.


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[Assistant] You know, we, we've seen some real phenomenal plays, uh, from our wide receivers and shout out to Cody Burns, our wide receiver coach, man. He's in there handling the business, baby. It's what I'm talking about.


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[Assistant] All right. So Randy says, uh, he says you guys need another hurricane from Goodell and reps to give you a soup bowl. No, no, not sir, Randy. No, no sir.


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[Assistant] He says, uh, it's entertaining people listed and trademarked as entertainment, not a sport. Uh, yeah, we are very aware of that, sir. Thank you.


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[Assistant] It says, who you acquire for your team is meaningless. The game isn't decided on the field. Okay. Thank you, Randy. Okay. If it's not really, football is not really, um,


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[Assistant] You're spinning it like it's a total control thing. It's not totally controlled. And I, and listen, I'm more of the.


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[Assistant] Proactive person to say listen, you call, call it out.


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[Assistant] And then it's based on the people that's watching at their intelligence level to understand what they're watching and to call it out.


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[Assistant] And let them know we not playing it and that's how you clean the sport. And I'm going to tell you another thing, Mr. Randy, that the most corrupt sport in all of America is not football. It's actually boxing.


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[Assistant] Boxing is by far way more corrupt than football could ever possibly hope to be.


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[Assistant] In order to clean up the sports, it start not with the people on the inside because they're banking out, but it starts on the people on the outside that are feeding these dollars to the sport.


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[Assistant] If people stop buying their stuff, then they'll clean it up. They'll change it. So it's all controlled by you anyway.


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[Assistant] So to take a stance like you're not going to participate in it, you're not helping here. We need people that's going to actually proactively act.


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[Assistant] And do things to clean up the sport, like call it out and not only just call it out, but actually make moves to.


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[Assistant] To kind of fair it out and make sure we get this stuff together and let them know, hey, we see what you're doing. We're not playing at what you, we calling you out. That's how you fix stuff, my friend. You know, I'm aware of that.


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[Assistant] All right, so anyway, let's keep it going. K-Man says, Q, the interview Cody Burns this week. He's ATB elite separation skills off the line. He looked really good, man. He looked really good, man. I'm not, like I said, he looks good, man. All right. So anyway, Dana says,


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[Assistant] It was kind of funny watching the rookie QBs like watching a baby take the first few steps. It was pretty fun, man. Watching that. Yeah, we cool, man. We do, we do what we do. What's up, Barbara? Shout out to you, babe. Appreciate you.


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[Assistant] All right. Much love to you. Yeah. Cody burns is the man, man. Cody burns has done a wonderful job. Uh, Mike Thomas talked about Cody burns.


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[Assistant] You know, what he did, how his impact has been there. Chris Olavi talked about him.


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[Assistant] And everybody talks big about him. It's almost, he's almost, it's the same type of, uh, it's like the Saints did wonderfully when they got Ryan Nilsson.


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[Assistant] And brought him in here. He was a defensive line coach in college and the Saints brought him in.


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[Assistant] Never had no NFL experience, but he was a defensive line coach at what was in North Carolina state, the Wolfpack. He was there. He was turning out the, uh, really good defensive lineman.


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[Assistant] And Sean Payton waited, he got rid of his old boys and he waited for a long time. And that was one of his last moves like that year.


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[Assistant] And he got rid of Bill Johnson, sorry ass. He got rid of a few of these other old bums that was been around him, circulating around him, eating up money.


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[Assistant] And he went and got Ryan Nilsen and that changed a lot in this thing's defense and never regretted it.


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[Assistant] So I mean, when you, when they went to Tennessee and got Cody Burns, I thought that was a really big move there. Cause I think he was replacing Curtis.


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[Assistant] Wasn't it coach Curtis that was there at the wide receiver position and coach Curtis went somewhere. I forgot where he went to Detroit or I forgot where he went, but.


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[Assistant] They went to college and got Cody Burns and Cody Burns has been special. It's been.


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[Assistant] Awesome seeing that type of move happen. So I spent points, a couple of these guys that came from college.


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[Assistant] Like Ryan Nilsen had major success in the defensive line and a guy like Cody Burns has attention to detail and ability to communicate the game or outwardly.


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[Assistant] You look at guys like Joe Woods. Been in the game for a long time. Really super cool dude.


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[Assistant] Those how to communicate, communicate the game really awesome, man. So the Sinks have.


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[Assistant] Really a lot of really good people there that can help them move this thing in the right direction. So I'm really good. I'm really cool with that. All right. All right. So with that being said, man, listen, man.


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[Assistant] Let me get ready to, yeaah, DJ, uh, yeaah, DSmooth says yeaah, big cute pinning head.


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[Assistant] A nasty penning move I think Penny had on, uh, somebody put it up on Twitter, man.


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[Assistant] When he had him out here and he had one where he had a.


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[Assistant] A mean pancake. Y'all probably seen it. I don't know if y'all probably seen the move.


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[Assistant] Pancake the hell out the guy in the game, man. So, you know, I don't know if you guys seen that play.


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[Assistant] But it was pretty cool watching, uh, Penning get loose like that. But like I said, he's a guy that you gotta, uh, he just gotta stay healthy fam. That's the only thing about Penning. Stay healthy and keep doing what you're doing.


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[Assistant] You know, look what we did with Baker a couple years ago. And if you have Jimmy Jean here and he's, I mean, he's pretty much proven when you've got his offense, it's ready to run.


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[Assistant] The two things that interest me about this is, Franklin, first of all, I like that they're doing their due diligence on Baker, which is interesting in itself, like to see if there's anything back there. But imagine how pleasant that investigation is compared to the people who have to do the Deshaun investigation where they're, they're hearing horrid, horrifying, lurid details every day. I'm like, Oh God, wait until I hear Baker said he wants


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[Assistant] Right, and that's, that's the bad thing, is him, like, being, like, uh, throwing shade at Tony Grossi for asking him a tough question or something like that. Like, that's the worst they're gonna find back there, probably. Uh, so that's gotta be pleasant itself. But also, the thing that I want to remind everybody of is how many people were just calling


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[Assistant] So here's the question, two years ago, we went to the playoffs with Baker, and was that team better or worse around Baker then at that point, than we are now? Oh, it was worse. It was worse.


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[Assistant] One minimum in those four games, no matter who the quarterback is. Is there some horrifying statistic in our opening game? How many? They haven't won an opening game in like 17 years. We haven't won an opening game in like, so, it wouldn't be unfair. And the tie against the Steelers. So just assuming that we're gonna clean house the first four games with all those presumptions.


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[Assistant] Yep, I'm definitely, I'm going over, I'm going over, uh, 100%. I have faith in this team and I think that it's, I think it's ready to run and I'm not saying that it'll be easy if it's Jacoby handing the ball off the entire season or anything, but I think they're just gonna, I think that they have what it takes to get at least 10 wins. I do. In a 17 game season.


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[Assistant] I would like to see the trade for something, for a piece that can help them right away, but I don't know if that's realistic. You would know better than I would if you've heard anything about them making any moves like that, but that would be ideal. But if you had to pick, uh, if you had to, and if you had to go with one of these guys that they're projecting, who do you like as a fit, Jason?


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[Assistant] They're like, but we give you eight of them. There you go. Uh, no, I'd have to go Wendy's is the most professional burger still on the market. Ohio based, Ohio Proud originally. Dave Thomas. Columbus. Uh, Columbus based. And, uh, still the best fast food burger as far as we're talking. Like, just pure fa- not Five Guys, but these trendy joints. Yeah, the main ones.


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[Assistant] Although I would have adjusted my behavior. That's the thing. We always say that. But it's like if I knew that I was being watched at every moment. 19 year olds rarely do.


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[Assistant] What do you think about chicken and waffles? I love chicken and waffle.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but his dad, his dad is Cooper Manning. So it's not like, it's not like his dad is.


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[Assistant] Uh, I complained, don't, yeaah, I complained last week about, er, on Tuesday about wing prices at Quaker Steak and Lube.


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[Assistant] This is a picture of Trent Reznor at, uh, from Nine Inch Nails that hangs at the Quaker Steak and Lube in Independence that I love. Looks like he's being held hostage. It does. I miss this picture. I visit it, I used to visit it every time I'd go there for their, when their lunch buffet was affordable.


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[Assistant] Right there is Trent, right there is Trent Reznor, who is like the mistress of the dark.


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[Assistant] Hardcore, scary rocker, but he loved their wings so much.


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[Assistant] The people who buy this outlawed game are as guilty as you who kill it. By killing game out of season, you are robbing every American boy of its natural heritage to hunt as a sport as protected by the law. It is people like you who slaughtered off the buffalo and the wild pigeon until they have completely disappeared.


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[Assistant] In passing sentence, it is the opinion of this court that racketeers of your type must be exposed as the lowest, most contemptible breed of all criminals.


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[Assistant] How should I know what you do with anything? What I like to know is where do you get your money from? What work do you do?


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[Assistant] They talked about him on the radio one Sunday morning. He let a woman make a sucker out of her.


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[Assistant] I stood behind that bar listening to the stuff and cried like a baby. None but the lonely heart.


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[Assistant] Get everybody worked up. They give everybody stuff they shouldn't have. He was a dope.


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[Assistant] What's this address? Number 7 Pacific Street, you kid.


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[Assistant] Hello? Hello, Lady W? Oh.


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[Assistant] Well, this is Taffy Baker. Could I please speak to my brother, Miss Loring? Just a moment.


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[Assistant] He said he's not coming home. He hung up on me.


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[Assistant] Oh, I'm fine, thank you. Are Roy and Bert there? No, I haven't seen either of them. Oh, I see. You haven't seen them at all? No, no, nothing important. Thank you very much.


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[Assistant] The samurai bow is a killing machine.


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[Assistant] But bows appear throughout history the world over.


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[Assistant] And the English longbow is also heralded as a masterpiece.


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[Assistant] Master craftsman and ancient philosophy. Behind the samurai bow. Built to kill.


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[Assistant] Weapons have been around since prehistoric times.


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[Assistant] But in medieval times, you could see the whites of your enemy's eyes.


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[Assistant] Swords developed through the ages, and the Samurai Sword is beyond compare.


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[Assistant] Just like European knights, the samurai were elite fighters.


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[Assistant] Paid by the shogun or feudal lords, they were given riches, land, and fame.


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[Assistant] But in return, they pledged an allegiance so strong that it sometimes cost them their lives.


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[Assistant] Which destroyed many Mongol ships, but regardless of this divine intervention, the bow had now earned its place in Japanese legend.


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[Assistant] The Yumi is unique amongst warbows, and stands apart from bows in the rest of the world, but its ethos was remarkable too.


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[Assistant] Samurai trained to fight other samurai of the same standing.


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[Assistant] Hoping to achieve an honorable death at the hands of an equal.


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[Assistant] And the Yumi was the weapon used to kill a worthy opponent.


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[Assistant] So how can we discover which one was the ultimate bow of the middle ages?


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[Assistant] Here they put state of the art firearms through their paces.


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[Assistant] But the same equipment can be used to look at more ancient weapons.


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[Assistant] To make a fair comparison of the Yumi with the Longbow, we've chosen bows with matching draw weights.


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[Assistant] Both these bows take approximately 23 kilos of force to pull to their maximum.


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[Assistant] So what is the biggest difference between these two ancient weapons? And what does it mean for their performance?


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[Assistant] The speed at which the arrow leaves can be measured by our high-speed camera.


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[Assistant] We know how long the arrows are, and by measuring the speed at which they leave the screen, we can work out their velocity.


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[Assistant] The Japanese bow shoots its arrow at 34 meters per second.


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[Assistant] That's about 122 kilometres per hour.


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[Assistant] It shoots its arrows at 34 metres per second too.


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[Assistant] So the Yumi bow does have more punch for the same draw weight. And if the arrows weighed the same, it would be shooting faster.


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[Assistant] Another effect of the Yumi design is that its arrows are supposed to leave in a straighter line. But technique comes into play here too.


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[Assistant] Filmed at more than 2000 frames per second, we can see the longbow arrow veer off course before swinging back to target.


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[Assistant] Shot from the ground, the Yumi outperforms the Longbow. And in the hands of the samurai, it was lethal.


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[Assistant] But the Yumi also had a turn of pace which its competitors could only dream of. Because its archers were the cavalry.


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[Assistant] Today, mounted archery is still held in high esteem. And in our more peaceful times, ceremonial displays have taken the place of battles.


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[Assistant] But the skills needed to take part in such a ceremony are extreme.


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[Assistant] And only two schools in the whole of Japan train mounted archers.


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[Assistant] This is the Ogasawara School. It was established over 800 years ago.


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[Assistant] But it is still run by the head of the family, Master Ogasawara. Surprisingly, there are no horses here. An archer must be able to ride any mount.


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[Assistant] So they train to develop ultra-strong leg muscles in preparation.


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[Assistant] Pulling the leg up and pushing it forward only with the inner thigh concentrates the effort in the muscles needed to grip and steer a galloping horse.


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[Assistant] Master Ogasawara is a strict teacher. And his son Kiyomoto is one of his students.


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[Assistant] Today, mounted archery is for display and ceremony only.


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[Assistant] And in the run-up to the most important ceremony, called Yabasane, training has to move outside.


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[Assistant] A wooden horse is built to allow the archers to practice and hone their skills in safety.


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[Assistant] The turning circle helps the archer become accustomed to the movement of a real horse, galloping at over 60 kilometers per hour.


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[Assistant] Kiyomoto has to keep his balance and reload every five seconds. This practice is all about his riding position.


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[Assistant] Although horses are a rarity, the archers do get some time to practice riding in the run-up to the Yabusame ceremony.


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[Assistant] It may be a practice session, but Kiyomoto still wears the hunting costume of the samurai.


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[Assistant] Every element is traditional, but practical. The deerskin chaps are light, but hard wearing. And the sword is ready for use at his side.


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[Assistant] The unusual hat was used to tie up the samurai's hair and keep it out of his eyes.


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[Assistant] Once everything's in place, targets are erected on the course.


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[Assistant] The Yabasame track is approximately 250 metres long and has three wooden targets spaced at even intervals.


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[Assistant] The Yabusame is not a competition. It's a display.


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[Assistant] But one of the most important Yabusame events of the year is not far away. And Kiyomoto wants to succeed. It's his chance to bring honor to his family.


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[Assistant] But it's not just the use of the bow which is rarefied and respected in Japan. The manufacture of them is too.


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[Assistant] Master Kikunaga is a craftsman of supreme talent. His bows are known throughout the country, and he uses only the best materials to create them.


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[Assistant] Master Kekonaga and his wife leave his workshop and go in search of the perfect trees.


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[Assistant] Each tree will make one bow, and they have to have specific qualities.


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[Assistant] Master Kekunaga has found three suitable trees, and they're cut into slats and then taken for drying.


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[Assistant] This smoking chamber will house the bamboo for the next six months.


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[Assistant] The Yabusame event, which Kiyomoto Ogasawara has been training for, has arrived.


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[Assistant] But before it starts, a ritual blessing takes place. First, the bows are blessed.


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[Assistant] Then the archers drink sake to cleanse themselves.


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[Assistant] The archers will return to the temple after the Abusame to tell the gods how they did.


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[Assistant] But for now, all eyes turn to the course.


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[Assistant] But here, at Suwano, the track is short, so there's less time to hit them.


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[Assistant] Kiyomoto Ogasawara is here with his father. But they have a while to wait until it's his turn.


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[Assistant] As soon as an archer loses his posture, there's no way he can hit the target.


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[Assistant] With the traditional cry of Inyo Inyo, which means darkness and light.


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[Assistant] His dedication and practice has paid off. Kiyomoto Ogasawara has hit all three targets. He's the only archer to have achieved it all day.


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[Assistant] The master always expects the best from his students. It's how to achieve perfection.


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[Assistant] But the gods of Suwano should be happy with Kiyomoto today.


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[Assistant] It's been six months since Master Kikunaga put the bamboo slats into his smoker for drying. And the precious wood is ready.


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[Assistant] The craft of making a Yumi has remained the same for centuries.


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[Assistant] Because each piece of bamboo is different, Master Kikunaga must work out how thick it needs to be to achieve the flexibility he needs. Fractions of a millimetre can make a difference.


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[Assistant] And it takes years to truly understand how the wood feels and moves.


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[Assistant] Too thick, and it won't bend enough. Too thin, and it will break.


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[Assistant] Once all three sections are the perfect thickness, the bow is glued and bound with a manila rope.


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[Assistant] The criss-crossed rope holds the pieces together and is the key to how the bow is bent.


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[Assistant] Before the glue dries, small pieces of bamboo are forced under the rope. These are used to hold the position of the bow once Master Kikunaga starts to bend it.


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[Assistant] The truly unique thing about the Yumi, its asymmetric shape, is what makes Master Kikunaga's job even more difficult.


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[Assistant] The top part of the bow is twice as long as the bottom, so the grip is about two thirds of the way down.


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[Assistant] No other bow is made like this and there are many theories as to why.


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[Assistant] The Japanese bowmen have another technique to increase the Yumi's power.


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[Assistant] The hand of the archer moves at the last moment, so that the arrow doesn't have to bend around the bow, but flies straight from the string.


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[Assistant] More power, a straighter flight, and fewer oscillations out of the bow sounds like the perfect combination.


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[Assistant] But what really matters with a bow is how deadly it is at impact.


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[Assistant] And to test this, we need to apply some ballistics techniques.


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[Assistant] Using modern equipment to test the power of the European longbow against the Yumi. Which bow will reign supreme?


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[Assistant] The power depends on how fast the arrow leaves the bow string, its weight, and also how much drag slows it down.


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[Assistant] Because the Yumi and the Longbow Arrows are made with different materials, they will have a different impact. But which has the most?


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[Assistant] This is a block of ballistics gel, normally used to test bullets. It's the same density as human flesh, so will give us a measurement of how deep each arrow would penetrate a person.


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[Assistant] Filming with the high-speed camera shows us the moment of impact, and the Union Arrow makes a huge impression.


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[Assistant] But it doesn't make quite the same inroads as the Yumi.


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[Assistant] Almost 25 centimeters into the gel for the longbow versus 30 for the Yumi. But both shots clearly could have been fatal.


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[Assistant] Perhaps it was hoped that ritualized battles would act as a last resort to prevent mass slaughter.


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[Assistant] If one side were intimidated, the battle would be conceded.


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[Assistant] Although the bow isn't used in battle today, it's still an important part of Japanese culture, and nowadays has more of a religious significance. But this spiritual element originated early on.


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[Assistant] Legend tells of an evil spirit which settled on the Imperial Palace.


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[Assistant] It was only the power of a samurai's bow which drove out the demon.


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[Assistant] Today, the Yumi is still called upon to perform cleansing rites in a tradition which passes through Japan's archery aristocracy.


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[Assistant] And at the Meiji Jingu Shrine in western Tokyo, Ogasawara archers are preparing to rid it of mischief.


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[Assistant] Leading the procession is Kiyotada Ogasawara, head of the family.


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[Assistant] Only archers of the highest calibre take part in ceremonies, and their skill is indicated by the black ratten wrapping on their bows.


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[Assistant] And a special arrow is prepared called a kaburaya, which whistles when it's shot.


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[Assistant] The sand travels to the four corners of the shrine, and evil is banished again.


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[Assistant] The Yumi is closely linked with many aspects of Japanese history, and great care is taken to preserve its traditions.


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[Assistant] Back in Master Kikunaga's workshop, bows are made in the age-old way, and his latest is ready for stringing.


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[Assistant] Gently, it's bent over a rack, and a piece of steel cable is tied at both ends.


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[Assistant] When Master Kikunaga holds the finished article in his hands, he finally knows if it's a good Yumi.


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[Assistant] No two bows are the same, and for Master Kikunaga, each one has a different character.


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[Assistant] His bows are so special that finding a suitable name for them was difficult, and he even sought some divine intervention.


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[Assistant] The Japanese connection to the Yumi is linked to their spirituality and heritage. But the heyday of the bow has passed.


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[Assistant] There was a time in the middle ages when every samurai clan had a school dedicated to the art of war. These schools were shrouded in secrecy, and now many have disappeared. But in the heart of Japan,


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[Assistant] A school still exists, which teaches the ancient way of the bow.


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[Assistant] The samurai had no shields and relied on plates in their clothes which only gave limited protection. Maneuverability was more important.


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[Assistant] The arrows used here are all of the same type, but in the Middle Ages, archers would pack an array of arrows with different specialities.


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[Assistant] As well as the arrows and the plates in their clothes, the archers other defense came from their attack formation. Moving forward in two rows.


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[Assistant] The samurai's war formation, arrows and armor, made them a formidable fighting force. And even without their horses, when forced to fight from the ground, they show discipline and great skill.


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[Assistant] So, in a ballistics range, when pitted against medieval armor of mail and plate, how will the Yumi and the Longbow compare?


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[Assistant] The longbow archer was familiar with mail, and his arrows were specially designed with long, thin armor-piercing ends called needle bodkins.


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[Assistant] From a direct shot, the male puts up little resistance.


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[Assistant] The Yumi was more often pitted against plate armor. So what happens when an arrow made for piercing plate runs into European mail?


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[Assistant] Despite the Yumi's superior penetration power, without a bodkin-style arrow more prevalent in Europe, it can't defeat mail.


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[Assistant] Both archers would have chosen their arrows carefully, but the Japanese had plates of iron as defense against early medieval arrows.


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[Assistant] So how do our 23 kilo bows fare against this?


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[Assistant] The Yumi has no problem. So what about a longbow bodkin arrow?


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[Assistant] A direct hit can defeat the Japanese armour.


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[Assistant] With the advent of firearms in the 16th century, the bow became less relevant on the battlefield. But that didn't mark the end of the samurai.


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[Assistant] They were still an important part of Japanese society. And the samurai wanted a way to maintain their skills.


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[Assistant] So they created a competition at Sanjo Sangendo, a famous temple in Kyoto.


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[Assistant] This competition was not just about skill, but also about determination.


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[Assistant] Archers had to compete solidly for 24 hours.


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[Assistant] Saw a samurai shoot more than 13,000 arrows with over 8,000 on target. A truly astonishing feat. Archery had become a demonstration of mental strength and practically a religion.


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[Assistant] Mushin is a moment of high concentration where thoughts no longer cloud the mind and everything becomes clear.


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[Assistant] It's a state which martial artists strive to achieve because it allows your body to react intuitively without any distractions from your mind like fear or anger.


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[Assistant] But also through any repetitive task on which you can focus and practice clearing your mind while concentrating.


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[Assistant] A calm, clear mind, able to fight intuitively, must have been a formidable combination for the samurai.


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[Assistant] Master Inoue School of Kyudo, on the outskirts of Tokyo.


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[Assistant] This is a different kind of archery school. No battle cries sound here. The place has an air of absolute serenity.


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[Assistant] Master Inoue teaches archery as a martial art form.


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[Assistant] Kudo is practiced by men and women, both young and old.


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[Assistant] And not focusing on the target and your desire to hit it.


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[Assistant] The makiwara is a tightly banged drum of straw.


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[Assistant] It's a practice target, which helps the archers to take their mind away from what they're shooting at.


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[Assistant] And bring their concentration back to themselves.


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[Assistant] It's a different way of thinking. But in a Kudo school, the target is just a distraction.


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[Assistant] Standard kyudo is practiced over a 28 meter course, so there's no need to draw heavy bows.


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[Assistant] It's not a show of strength, but control and precision. And some of the very best archers are women. Kimi Ijima has been a student here for two years.


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[Assistant] With total concentration and presence of mind, the students learn that the target will be hit without trying to hit it.


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[Assistant] And some will come to the self-realization that archery can be a path to enlightenment.


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[Assistant] And was capable of delivering a fatal blow. Even to armored soldiers.


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[Assistant] But in modern Japan, the Yumi is more than just a killing machine.


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[Assistant] When you spotted an enemy general or another high-ranking officer, then you would declare your name.


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[Assistant] You fired the arrow, and a fish struck, and the man died.


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[Assistant] People would declare it was an honorable death.


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[Assistant] It can't have any scratches, and the length between the knots need to be the right size. There are many bamboos here, but it is really hard to find the right one for a bow.


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[Assistant] The joints of the lathe must face each other precisely. The darker wood is for the inner side of the bowl, and it's extremely hard. The lighter parts of the bamboo are very soft.


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[Assistant] The outer edge is also made of haze, a Japanese hardwood.


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[Assistant] All three pieces must complete a set before I can smooth them to the right strength.


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[Assistant] But the grip is actually down here, on the lower third of the ball.


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[Assistant] This is why balls in Japan are built with grip in the lower third of the ball.


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[Assistant] In 1187, one of my ancestors was commissioned to teach mounted archery to the Shogun Minamoto no Yoritomo.


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[Assistant] The Ogasawara family became teachers and masters of ceremony at the court of the shoguns through the various dynasties until the mid-19th century.


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[Assistant] There has to be a balance between the upper and lower arms, or else it is no good.


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[Assistant] The foot a little further back, like so. And don't forget, for a long shot, you need to go wide and big.


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[Assistant] There are some types of arrowheads that were only chosen when the target was in sight.