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[Assistant] The bottom section indicated by the two dark blue boxes here is the operation panel.


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[Assistant] Here's how the complete English bot interface looks like on a student's screen. There are already two exchanges of conversations. For example, the chatbot says here, you will never believe it, but my dog ate it. And then the user replies with, you must be kidding. And the feedback the student receives is fabulous. The current dialogue here is the fifth exchange.


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[Assistant] As shown here, this recently repeat interface was designed to have the same color scheme and layout as EnglishBot. However,


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[Assistant] Similar to Quizball studies, we conducted two studies in two different learning scenarios, fixed usage and free usage.


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[Assistant] Users were randomly assigned one of the true systems and only used that system in their six-day learning period.


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[Assistant] In the free usage study, users were given access to one unit each day and allowed to complete as many or as few conversations in the unit as they desired.


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[Assistant] These students came from 22 different universities and 30 different majors. All were native Chinese speakers.


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[Assistant] Here we found that there was no difference in speaking English improvement across any of the four metrics between the two systems in the fixed usage setting.


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[Assistant] Moreover, English Bao took 2.5 times longer to practice the same amount of learning materials than the traditional system.


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[Assistant] Of their own volition, English-bound users spend 2.1 times more time than the traditional English system users.


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[Assistant] Our study was only operated over a short time span, and we know that language learning takes a lot of time to make progress.


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[Assistant] To summarize, in this work, I built a voice-based chatbot that helps college students improve their spoken language and conducted user studies under two different conditions.


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[Assistant] Where a younger receives a book in the form of a tablet.


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[Assistant] The tablet weaves a story, embedding the girl protagonist in as a major character, and through activities and narrative. This book gives the girl a complete education.


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[Assistant] By first implementing a narrative-based learning system with a Wizard of Oz chatbot.


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[Assistant] Which means the travel was controlled by a human tutor instead of being fully automated.


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[Assistant] Narratives have both pros and cons on learning. On the pro side, they can help develop students' mental models.


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[Assistant] The hinge system I implemented here can give feedback in a linear order.


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[Assistant] And in the last system, in the last condition, the hinge system was replaced with a worth checkbox.


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[Assistant] In chatbot, however, the wither could choose which hinge they think most relevant to the student based on students' reactions.


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[Assistant] Here are the interfaces of the four conditions. First, the task-only condition. In the second condition, students first read the story, then they started to work on the same math problem.


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[Assistant] In the third condition, we provided a hinge system as shown on the right side of the interface.


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[Assistant] The wizard was allowed to perform four different types of actions. She can have a small talk with kid, encouraging the kid, providing some direct hints, and lastly, checking children's understanding.


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[Assistant] We also map the question to the Common Core State Standards.


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[Assistant] Lastly, number of hints here indicated the max number of hints students could obtain in conditions C and D through the hint system or the chatbot.


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[Assistant] What surprises here is actually condition C, narrative plus hand condition. We didn't find children enjoyed more.


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[Assistant] We're not sure why. It's possible because the hints are not personalized for the children, so that they have to read them in a linear order, one by one.


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[Assistant] Again, the results here that narrative plus hint does not help with learning surprises us.


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[Assistant] Instead, deliberate hints in adaptive order through a conversational interface is more effective.


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[Assistant] I plotted the percentage of children in each condition who solved each step of the virtual learning task. As indicated by the red line here, narrative plus chatbots improved retention.


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[Assistant] Now that I have obtained positive results from the narrative plus a word chatbot, could we actually build a real automated chatbot?


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[Assistant] So it was difficult to conclude how much of the effectiveness came from natural language tutoring.


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[Assistant] Children first came in and finished the pre-test to measure their prior knowledge. Then they started to work on the math problem.


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[Assistant] In the problem solving stage, children could send a message to the chatbot.


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[Assistant] Based on if the kid found the reply helpful or not, and if the reply was a hint or not, we sent different reward signals to the chatbot.


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[Assistant] At the end of the problem solving stage, the kid uhm, either quitted the task or successfully solved the task.


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[Assistant] And lastly, if the kid quits the task, we send a big penalty to the chatbot. At the end of the interaction, the chatbot performs the update.


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[Assistant] Which step of the six-step task the kid is currently in and how many times the kid has failed?


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[Assistant] And the rest of the variables are affected by the actions that our trap ball takes during the interaction.


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[Assistant] For example, the trouble says here, try thinking about the concept of volume to solve this problem. The second is a directing.


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[Assistant] For example, the chatbot can just send the equation, the formula of the volume to help the kids solve the problem. The chatbot can also send an encouraging message.


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[Assistant] And lastly, uhm, sometimes the child might just acknowledge the receipt of the message from the kid.


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[Assistant] Instead of sending back any meaningful feedback, here the chatbot just sends back a smiley face.


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[Assistant] Uhm, where if the reply sent by the chatbot was a hint, we give a small positive reward to the chatbot.


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[Assistant] We also give a small positive reward if the reply was marked as helpful by the child.


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[Assistant] Uhm, multiplied by our parameter here as a, uhm, ending root word.


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[Assistant] In this way, the child can learn to give children some help, but not too much help.


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[Assistant] As we can see here, the difference looks like, looks the same. Uhm, we just changed the platform.


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[Assistant] 70 were assigned to the control condition and 269 to the RL checkpoint condition.


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[Assistant] I also segmented children based on their prior knowledge, and I found that children with no or little prior knowledge benefited much more by interacting with a chatbot. Here was the effect size of 1.1.


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[Assistant] For children who had more prior knowledge, they still enjoy the chatbot more, uh, just with a smaller effect size, 0.2 here.


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[Assistant] Because our IELTS report can improve over time, I also plot children's improvement over time and compare that to the static control. As we can see here, although fluctuating a lot,


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[Assistant] Uhm, then I plotted the reward of the RL agent, and as we can see here, it's very likely that our agent has not yet converged. So if we could, uhm, run the study with more kids, the RL agent could probably converge to better results and yield better learning and engagement for children.


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[Assistant] Since our data did not come from a bivariate normal distribution, I used Kendall-Ran correlation test to evaluate the association.


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[Assistant] So one important takeaway from running this large-scale online study is that we should probably better control the distribution of incoming children to make the IOR algorithm converge faster to a greater result.


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[Assistant] At this point the child will realize the kid probably need a little bit more help. So the child will just send an indirect guide. After that the kid solves the task.


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[Assistant] You can visit this website listed here and also read all the papers I published before.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so we ensured that users, you know, had access to, uh, different conversations in that week. But if we run the user study longer, or, uhm, you know, use a chatbot more like a real-world application, I do think, uh, you know, people will find it a little bit boring and limited.


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[Assistant] That's a very good question. So uhm, I have to admit that in the first study, the lab study, uh, because children had to come from a lab, most of them were from the Bay Area.


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[Assistant] So it's probably less represented, but for the second large-scale online study, because we could, you know, recruit children over the United States, we actually carefully controlled their


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, say household income, you know, location and even, you know, ethnicity groups so that they are well represented.


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[Assistant] Kinda, you know, similar to the overall household income distribution in the United States.


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[Assistant] If that answers the question. And also we, uhm, we plot, uhm, children's prior knowledge and we noticed that although, uhm, a lot of them were in the same grade and of same age, the prior, uhm, prior score, you know, varied a lot. So probably indicating that we have a representative sample of children.


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[Assistant] You don't fit the image that we have created for the governor's wife in Arkansas. It possibly could have cost him a few votes because your name is not the same as his.


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[Assistant] Yeah, in general, how representative are these students?


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[Assistant] Mother was almost always at home, ready to play with the children, or to read with them. And she wrote stories, then read them to the children after tea.


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[Assistant] Played Power Cruising! You can read on the bottom bar there. Beef Boss played Power Cruising.


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[Assistant] Slalom course, to be exact, and guess what Peef Boss is doing today? Power Cruising Slalom.


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[Assistant] Salome course. So the last time we played Wii Sports Resort, we were playing this exact sport, but I did not get pro in it. I instead broke my Wii remote. Got totally sabotaged by it, but didn't get credit for it. I hate this sport. I fucking hate this sport.


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[Assistant] So I am back, so we can continue on the series and never have to play this again. I believe we were getting


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[Assistant] I thought we were getting the most XP at Lighthouse to be honest. I am going to race at Lighthouse and hope we can get the last 147 skill points to get to pro status on Wii Sports Resort.


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[Assistant] Power Cruising. Yeah, I don't remember all these waves. Of course, we're gonna miss it.


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[Assistant] Go backwards. The most annoying thing about wakeboarding, er, not wakeboarding, this is power cruising, is by far the fact that you've got a nunchuck in your left hand that does nothing.


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[Assistant] And then you got your Wii Remote in your right hand and you gotta hold them up like you're actually holding the handlebars on a jet ski. And let me tell you, it's a pain in the butt.


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[Assistant] That in itself frustrates me, and then there's these waves and frickin', like I just boosted twice and nothing happened by the way. And then I hit everything in the fucking world.


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[Assistant] And you know, it's almost like there's only so much turning you can do.


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[Assistant] You can't ask me to go through a precision course through tsunamis that roll through every 30 seconds.


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sure last time we were playing, this is, this is gonna be my lowest one, but I'm hoping since our skill is already low, it won't go any lower. Oh my!


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[Assistant] Who programmed this game? Who? What was the team that was responsible for freaking power sports, wake, power, fucking riding a jet ski on Wii Sports Resort?


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[Assistant] Because they, they, they did not talk to any other of the freaking dev teams on this game about how much experience you should get and how difficult it should be.


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[Assistant] Oh my god, we missed that one. You pretty much missed a ring, you're losing a couple experience points.


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[Assistant] And you know what's crazy is I've seen a lot of people commenting that canoeing is even worse. But I, I, I just don't believe it. I don't believe it at this point. I will not believe it till I actually get to canoeing.


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[Assistant] Smearing, it's the kid that smears shit all over the bathroom stall. That's this sport.


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[Assistant] Which is probably a 15,000 experience point deduction.


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[Assistant] Well, we might gain like three experience points here because of our score. We lost?


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[Assistant] We lost 37 since we've started.


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[Assistant] We might, uh, get 6 experience points instead this time. Maybe 7, I dunno. 13, holy shit. We're almost back to where we were.


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[Assistant] I'm just gonna keep on playing this one until I have muscle memory to know exactly what to do all the time, because otherwise, this- it's- it's frickin' impossible. And then even then, I still am frickin' serpentining like I'm a snake.


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[Assistant] Yeah, screw that one, right? And this one. And then we tried to go for it, so it put us so off course that we're not gonna get that one. And then if you boost at the wrong time, you get no boost. And then we missed that one, even though it's on a long straightaway. So we've missed, what, five out of six?


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[Assistant] And then there goes our boost again, our booster's wasted because apparently we weren't in the water. And we're gonna miss this one too.


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[Assistant] But it's gonna, we're gonna hit it enough to fuck us. And then that wave was too early, so we didn't even have a chance. That wave was also way too early, so we didn't even have a chance. We're on the final stretch, only 117 motherfucking points.


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[Assistant] We get the last one, which is worth 132, this isn't even worth finishing.


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[Assistant] This is my least favorite part because that stupid wave. You know what? Wave is never late or never early. It's always on time to fuck you. That wave on that corner. But when you need the wave, you know, when you're going about to go through a hoop, that's when it'll be, oh, it's too early. Oh, it's too late.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. That's not how this works.


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[Assistant] Wow, I cannot believe we got through that one clean right there.


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[Assistant] That's a record by the way. The best we've ever done is worth 19! Wait, are we back to where we were?


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[Assistant] No, we had more, I think we had 853 when we started, so we're still not even back to where we were. Of course, OF COURSE!


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[Assistant] No, no, we're not going to go through this bullshit. It's pretty clear. You need to, to even get, let's say 30,


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[Assistant] Experience points. You need to essentially have the perfect round. And we're gonna miss this. Oh no, we're gonna sneak in there.


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[Assistant] Not before burning a lot of time. Would've got, if I would've gotten that one, we were gonna, we were gonna have our record by a long shot, but instead we just have our record by a little shot. Okay, what's 171? What is this worth?


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[Assistant] I should get credit for that. If you're gonna screw me that bad. And then we don't even have a chance on that one.


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[Assistant] Uh, if you're gonna screw me that bad and, and, and frickin' say I perfectly landed my jet ski in the hole, eh, at least give me the points. Nah, I'm not gonna get that one. Just fuck that one.


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[Assistant] That one doesn't deserve me either. We were doing good. We were finally perfect through the first few and then we just completely missed the next two. Not even in a position to try.


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[Assistant] I missed a ring completely. Wait, yeaah, I missed a whole frickin' archway completely. And didn't get it in the hole at least a few times, and I actually set a record there.


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[Assistant] I, I might be getting better at this because I played this course enough that I have enough muscle memory for it.


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[Assistant] We might get there. We might actually get there. After the first couple races and we were losing experience, I thought for sure this is just gonna end badly again.


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[Assistant] We're just, we got this, we got this right lean for some reason. For no reason, actually. We have it for no reason. Look at it, look at, look at, he's already leaning.


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[Assistant] Even. This is even. This is me not steering at all. This is me being as even as I can be.


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[Assistant] Why? Apparently I have to- I have to be holding- I have to inherently be- be kind of left turning. Otherwise, we're going right.


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[Assistant] I'm such a professional at throwing Wii remotes that I know how, I know how hard to throw it if I want to teach it a lesson and not break it.


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[Assistant] And then I know how hard and how many times I have to throw it if I really wanna fucking break it. I didn't wanna break it. I just wanted to teach it a lesson.


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[Assistant] And that's what I did. The batteries come flowing out, I put the batteries back in, put it back together. And then...


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[Assistant] Hopefully, now it's back to normal, because something changed.


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[Assistant] Something inherently changed after I said, I think we're finally gonna go pro in this. Like the shit, my, my WeSpeak's not even frickin' plugged in. Look at that! Look at that! It's frickin' better!


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[Assistant] I'm curious. We got like 161, which isn't very good for us now. That's over 10 points less than our high.


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[Assistant] What does this give us in experience points? Please tell me it's not negative five.


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[Assistant] This is so bad. We're not even gonna get, we didn't get it through a single center hoop. Not a single, oh there's one. We got one. We're gonna lose experience there, so gotta restart. Waste of time.


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[Assistant] But we'll hit it enough, we'll hit it enough, even though it's impossible, we'll hit it enough to just, to actually make it ten times worse than just missing it.


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[Assistant] Well, another good one. Please tell me this somehow gives us just way more experience than I'm expecting, which is probably 15. Oh, wait, what? That's what I even expected.


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[Assistant] 168.9, marginally better than the last time, like a point and a half, but that puts us probably in third instead of like, whatever.


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[Assistant] One experience point better. Wow. So generous of you. Thank you. My third best ever score. Nine experience points is what that's worth.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're, we're so far off course. I might as well miss this one too. You know, we might as well miss the rest of them at this gate.


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[Assistant] Oh no, we're having, we are having such a great race. In that, if we would have got that one, we were probably going to be setting world records. But instead, we barely did, I think, maybe.


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[Assistant] Think that might be our best? It is our best, but probably barely. Ooh, by almost two whole points!


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[Assistant] Is Miss Temple as severe to you as Miss Scatchett? At the utterance of Miss Temple's name, a soft smile flitted over her grave face. Miss Temple is full of goodness.


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[Assistant] It pains her to be severe to anyone, even the worst in the school. She sees my errors and tells me of them gently, and if I do anything worthy of praise, she gives me my mead liberally.


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[Assistant] One strong proof of my wretchedly defective nature, is that even her expostulations, so mild, so rational, have not influenced to cure me of my faults, and even her praise, though I value it most highly, cannot stimulate me to continued care and foresight. That's curious, said I. It is so easy to be careful. For you I have no doubt it is.


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[Assistant] I observed you in your class this morning, and I saw you were closely attentive.


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[Assistant] Your thoughts never seemed to wander while Miss Miller explained the lesson and questioned you. Now mine continually rove away.


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[Assistant] When I should be listening to Miss Scatchett, and collecting all she says with assiduity, often I lose the very sound of her voice. I fall into a sort of dream. Sometimes I think I'm in Northumberland.


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[Assistant] That the noises I hear round me are the bubbling of a little brook which runs through Deepton, near our house. Then when it comes to my turn to reply, I have to be wakened.


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[Assistant] And having heard nothing of what was read for listening to the visionary brook, I have no answer ready. Yet how well you replied this afternoon. It was mere chance. The subject on which we had been reading had interested me.


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[Assistant] I was wondering how a man, who wished to do right, could act so unjustly and unwisely as Charles I sometimes did.


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[Assistant] And I thought what a pity it was that, with his integrity and conscientiousness, he could see no farther than the prerogatives of the Crown.


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[Assistant] If he had but been able to look to a distance, and see how what they call the spirit of the age was tending. Still I like Charles. I respect him. I pity him. Poor murdered king. Yes, his enemies were the worst. They shed blood they had no right to shed. How dared they kill him!


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[Assistant] Helen was talking to herself now. She had forgotten I could not very well understand her.


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[Assistant] Because Miss Temple has generally something to say which is newer than my own reflections. Her language is singularly agreeable to me.


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[Assistant] And the information she communicates is often just what I wish to gain. Well, then, with Miss Temple, you are good. Yes, in a passive way. I make no effort. I follow as inclination guides me. There's no merit in such goodness. A great deal. You are good to those who are good to you. It is all I ever desire to be.


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[Assistant] If people were always kind and obedient to those who were cruel and unjust, the wicked people would have it all their own way. They would never feel afraid, and so they would never alter, but would grow worse and worse.


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[Assistant] When we are struck out without a reason, we should strike back again, very hard. I'm sure we should. So hard as to teach the person who struck us never to do it again. You will change your mind, I hope, when you grow older. As yet you are but a little untaught girl.


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[Assistant] But I feel this, Helen. I must dislike those who, whatever I do to please them, persist in disliking me. I must resist those who punish me unjustly.


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[Assistant] It is as natural as that I should love those who show me affection, or submit to punishment when I feel it is deserved. Heathens and savage tribes hold that doctrine, but Christians and civilised nations disown it. How? I don't understand.


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[Assistant] It is not violence that best overcomes hate, nor vengeance that most certainly heals injury.


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[Assistant] I'm an online Rocky reader. Rocky's been my homepage since I moved to Denver several years ago and it's really what keeps me in touch with the local community.


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[Assistant] They're the pulse of America. They're what feeds upward into those national news stories so the national news stories can pick and choose what's the topic of the day. The national news is not gonna come back and go to a local school board meeting and try and figure out what's going on. The national news doesn't really care.


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[Assistant] The Rocky Mountain News, the Denver Post, those are the ones that are driving the improvements in the community, really.


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[Assistant] They now proceeded to address Diva's remarks and reproofs to Miss Smith.


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[Assistant] Who was charged with the care of the linen and the inspection of the dormitories, but I had no time to listen to what they said. Other matters called off and enchained my attention.


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[Assistant] Hitherto, while gathering up the discourse of Mr. Brocklehurst and Miss Temple,


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[Assistant] I had not, at the same time, neglected precautions to procure my personal safety, which I thought would be affected, if I only could elude observation. To this end, I had sat well back on the form, and while seeming to be busy with my sum, had held my slate in such a manner as to conceal my face. I might have escaped notice.


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[Assistant] I thought my treacherous slate somehow happened to slip from my hand.


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[Assistant] And falling with an obtrusive crash, directly drawn every eye upon me. I knew it was all over now.


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[Assistant] And as I stooped to pick up the two fragments of slate, I rallied my forces for the worst. It came. A careless girl, said Mr. Brocklehurst, and immediately after, it is the new pupil I perceive. And before I could draw breath, I must not forget I have a word to say respecting her. Then aloud, how loud it seemed to me, let the child who broke her slate come forward,


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[Assistant] Of my own accord, I could not have stirred. I was paralysed, but the two great girls who sat on each side of me, set me on my legs and pushed me towards the dread Judge.


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[Assistant] And then Miss Temple gently assisted me to his very feet, and I caught her whispered counsel. Don't be afraid, Jane. I saw it was an accident. You shall not be punished. The kind whisper went to my heart like a dagger. Another minute, and she will despise me for a hypocrite, thought I.


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[Assistant] And an impulse of fury against Reed, Brocklehurst and company bounded in my pulses at the conviction. I was no Helen Burns. Fetch that stool.


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[Assistant] Ladies, said he, turning to his family. Miss Temple, teachers and children. You all see this girl.


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[Assistant] Of course they did, for I felt their eyes directed like burning glasses against my scorched skin. You see, she is yet young. You observe she possesses the ordinary form of childhood.


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[Assistant] God has graciously given her the shape that he has given to all of us.


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[Assistant] Who would think that the evil one had already found a servant and agent in her? Yet such, I grieve to say, is the case.


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[Assistant] A pause, in which I began to study the palsy of my nerves, and to feel that the Rubicon was passed, and that the trial, no longer to be shirked, must be firmly sustained. My dear children.


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[Assistant] Pursued the black marble clergyman with pathos. This is a sad, a melancholy occasion.


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[Assistant] But it becomes my duty to warn you that this girl, who might be one of God's own lambs, is a little castaway.


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[Assistant] Not a member of the true flock, but evidently an interloper and an alien.


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[Assistant] You must be on your guard against her. You must shun her example. If necessary, avoid her company. Exclude her from your sports and shut her out from your converse. Teachers, you must watch her.


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[Assistant] My tongue falters while I tell it. This girl, this child, the native of a Christian land, worse than many a little heathen who says its prayers to Brahma and kneels before Juggernaut, this girl is a liar.


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[Assistant] I have not yet alluded to the visits of Mr. Brocklehurst.


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[Assistant] That gentleman was from home during the greater part of the first month after my arrival, perhaps prolonging his stay with his friend the Archdeacon. His absence was a relief to me.


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[Assistant] I need not say that I had my own reasons for dreading his coming. But come, he did at last.


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[Assistant] One afternoon, I had then been three weeks at Lowood, as I was sitting with a slate in my hand, puzzling over a sum in long division, my eyes, raised in abstraction to the window, caught sight of a figure just passing.


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[Assistant] I recognized almost instinctively that gaunt outline.


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[Assistant] And when, two minutes after, all the school teachers included rose en masse


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[Assistant] It was not necessary for me to look up in order to ascertain whose entrance they thus greeted. A long stride measured the schoolroom, and presently beside Miss Temple, who herself had risen,


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[Assistant] It was Mr. Brocklehurst, buttoned up in a sootoo, and looking longer and narrower and more rigid than ever. I had my own reasons for being dismayed at this apparition.


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[Assistant] Too well I remembered the perfidious hints given by Mrs. Reed about my disposition, etc., the promise pledged by Mr. Brocklehurst to apprise Miss Temple and the teachers of my vicious nature.


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[Assistant] All along I had been dreading the fulfilment of this promise. I had been looking out daily for the coming man, whose information respecting my past life and conversation was to brand me as a bad child for ever. Now, there he was. He stood at Miss Temple's side. He was speaking low in her ear.


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[Assistant] I did not doubt he was making disclosures of my villainy, and I watched her eye with painful anxiety, expecting every moment to see its dark orb turn on me a glance of repugnance and contempt. I listened, too, and as I happened to be seated quite at the top of the room, I caught most of what he said. Its import relieved me from immediate apprehension.


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[Assistant] I suppose, Miss Temple, the thread I bought at Loudon will do.


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[Assistant] It struck me that it would be just of the quality for the calico chemises, and I sorted the needles to match.


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[Assistant] You may tell me, Smith, that I have forgot to make a memorandum of the darning-needles, but she shall have some papers sent in next week, and she is not, on any account, to give out more than one at a time to each pupil. If they have more, they are apt to be careless and lose them.


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[Assistant] When I was here last, I went into the kitchen garden and examined the clothes drying on the line.


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[Assistant] There was a quantity of black hose in a very bad state of repair, from the size of the holes in them.


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[Assistant] He continued, The laundress tells me some of the girls have two clean tuckers in a week. It is too much. The rules limit them to one.


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[Assistant] I think I can explain that circumstance, sir. Agnes and Catherine Johnston were invited to tea with some friends at Loudon last Thursday, and I gave them leave to put on clean tuckers for the occasion. Mr. Brocklehurst nodded.


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[Assistant] Well, for once it may pass, but please not to let the circumstance occur too often.


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[Assistant] And there was another thing which surprised me. I find in settling accounts with the housekeeper that a lunch consisting of bread and cheese has twice been served out to the girls during the past fortnight. How is this?


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[Assistant] I look over the regulations and I find no such meal as lunch mentioned. Who introduced this innovation, and by what authority?


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[Assistant] I must be responsible for the circumstance, sir, replied Miss Temple.


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[Assistant] The breakfast was so ill prepared that the pupils could not possibly eat it, and I dared not allow them to remain fasting till dinner time.


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[Assistant] Madam, allow me an instant. You are aware that my plan in bringing up these girls is not to accustom them to habits of luxury and indulgence, but to render them hardy, patient, self-denying.


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[Assistant] Should any little accidental disappointment of the appetite occur, such as the spoiling of a meal, the under- or the over-dressing of a dish, the incident ought not to be neutralised by replacing with something more delicate the comfort lost, thus pampering the body and obviating the aim of this institution.


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[Assistant] It ought to be improved the spiritual edification of the pupils by encouraging them to evince fortitude under the temporary privation.


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[Assistant] Wherein a judicious instructor would take the opportunity of referring to the sufferings of the primitive Christians.


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[Assistant] To the torments of martyrs, to the exhortations of our blessed Lord himself, calling upon his disciples to take up their cross and follow him.


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[Assistant] To his warnings, that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


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[Assistant] When you put bread and cheese instead of burnt porridge into these children's mouths, you may indeed feed their vile bodies, but you little think how you starve their immortal souls.


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[Assistant] Mr. Brocklehurst again paused, perhaps overcome by his feelings.


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[Assistant] Miss Temple had looked down when he first began to speak to her.


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[Assistant] But she now gazed straight before her, and her face, naturally pale as marble


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[Assistant] Meantime Mr. Brocklehurst, standing on the hearth with his hands behind his back, majestically surveyed the whole school. Suddenly his eye gave a blink.


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[Assistant] Why, in defiance of every precept and principle of this house, does she conform to the world so openly, here, in an evangelical, charitable establishment, as to where her hair one mass of curls? Julius' hair curls naturally. Return to Miss Temple still more quietly. Naturally! Yes, but we are not to conform to nature. I wish these girls to be the children of grace. And why that abundance?


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[Assistant] I have again and again intimated that I desire the hair to be arranged closely, modestly, plainly.


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[Assistant] Miss Temple, that girl's hair must be cut off entirely. I will send a barber to-morrow, and I see others who have far too much of the excrescence. That tall girl! Tell her to turn around. Tell all the first-form to rise up and direct their faces to the wall.


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[Assistant] You don't know what a pleasure it is to me, Pip, he said once, to be with my dear boy in the open air.


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[Assistant] I hope so, dear boy. But looking into the future, well, that's like looking for the bottom of the river, isn't it? Can't be done.


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[Assistant] In 2005, the Palm Beach Police Department received reports of young women going to and from his residence.


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[Assistant] There was no way that anybody could look at this and think this was okay.


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[Assistant] Oh, here it is. I'm sure it's the same green. Better take it out into the daylight.


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[Assistant] Oh, what a lot of books. Do you really read them all, my dear? Oh, I'm afraid not. They're for Johnny. Johnny? Since when is he?


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[Assistant] Oh, detective stories. Yes, he adores them. So Johnny's settled down to the simple rural life. And it seems to agree with him. Abandoned all his vices.


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[Assistant] Seth took off along the new path worn into the damp earth. Leah looked after him thoughtfully. Maybe a round or two before I crash. Hey Seth, wanna see how many times I can lap you? No. Barking out a low chuckle, Leah lunged into the woods after him. I growled uselessly, so much for peace and quiet. Leah was trying for Leah.


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[Assistant] She kept her jibes to a minimum as she raced around the circuit, but it was impossible not to be aware of her smug mood. I thought of the whole two's company saying, it didn't really apply because one was plenty to my mind. But if there had to be three of us,


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[Assistant] I wondered how long the buzz from dodging Sam's pity would last.


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[Assistant] That will be my goal then, to be less annoying than Paul. Yeah, work on that.


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[Assistant] And I was surprised to see Carlisle rather than Edward step outside to meet me. His face looked exhausted and defeated. For a second, my heart froze. I faltered to a stop, unable to speak. Are you all right, Jacob? Carlisle asked. Isabella? I choked out. She's much the same as last night. Did I startle you? I'm sorry. Edward said you were coming in your human form.


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[Assistant] And I came out to greet you as he didn't want to leave her. She's awake. And Edward didn't want to lose any time with her because he didn't have much time left. Carlisle didn't say the words out loud, but he might as well have. It had been a while since I'd slept, since before my last patrol. I could really feel that now. I took a step forward, sat down on the porch steps and slumped against the railing.


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[Assistant] Moving whisper quiet as only a vampire could.


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[Assistant] Alice and Jasper speaking in low serious voices upstairs. Esme humming tunelessly in another room. Rosalie and Edward breathing close by. I couldn't tell which was which, but I could hear the difference in Bella's labored panting. I could hear her heart too. It seemed uneven.


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[Assistant] It was like fate was out to make me do everything I'd ever sworn I wouldn't in the course of 24 hours. Here I was, hanging around, waiting for her to die. I didn't want to listen anymore. Talking was better than listening. She's family to you? I asked Carlisle. It had caught my notice before, when he'd said I'd helped the rest of his family too. Yes, Bella is already a daughter to me, a beloved daughter.


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[Assistant] But you're going to let her die. He was quiet long enough that I looked up. His face was very, very tired. I knew how he felt. I can imagine what you think of me for that, he finally said. But I can't ignore her will. It wouldn't be right to make such a choice for her, to force her. I wanted to be angry with him, but he was making it hard.


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[Assistant] It was like he was throwing my own words back at me, just scrambled up. They'd sounded right before, but they couldn't be right now. Not with Bella dying. Still.


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[Assistant] I remembered how it felt to be broken on the ground under Sam.


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[Assistant] To have no choice but be involved in the murder of someone I loved. It wasn't the same though. Sam was wrong. And Bella loved things she shouldn't.


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[Assistant] Oh, definitely. They are encouraged by the KGB officers and border guards of Belarus to do it even aggressively. They are provided with some equipment. So the risk of escalation.


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[Assistant] Do you really believe that we could avoid that kind of situation with Frontex? Frontex has less than 1000 officers on stock. We deployed already


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[Assistant] 15,000 of troops to the border to protect, uh, to protect it. So I really doubted, uh, that Frontex, only I mean calling Frontex would help us.


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[Assistant] And enlightenment sport talk from your favorite sports fam. I'm up in this thing. Shout out to the mighty who that nation would appreciate you guys as always for chiming in on the stream. Much love to the fam.


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[Assistant] Feel free to hit the share button. And also if you're not a subscriber, join the great Saint Tank Tank today by subscription. And as you can see,


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[Assistant] That this one here is called Cam Jordan takes issue with edge rushers rankings in this thing. And of course, you know, we know cam.


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[Assistant] Is arguably one of the best defensive players that the, who that nation has ever seen. You know, we talking about, he's up there in the atmosphere along with Ricky Jackson and Pat Swillen and guys like that. You know, this guy is, is, is up there in terms of what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] I thank Cam and it's a lot to say because we looking at Ricky Jackson even though I have to put Ricky Jackson ahead of Cam.


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[Assistant] And so far as the totality of his career, even though.


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[Assistant] As the best defender that ever done a Florida leaf in the great history of the who that nation.


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[Assistant] Just, that's a lot of praise, but that is real deal holy field. And of course, ultimately, I think Cam Jordan would eclipse him eventually.


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[Assistant] But he still has a couple of years left. We know that they're supposed to be working on. We'll be hearing that news coming up here soon about the Black and Gold finally getting a deal done where, you know, they'll make Cam a Saint for life. And we're looking forward to that at Major League. But anyway, in this episode, Saints defensive end, Cam Jordan has a big issue with the ranking system and of course,


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[Assistant] Have been forgotten. Now, Jeremy Fowler surveyed executives, coaches, scouts, and players to put together ESPN's top 10 rankings for 11 defensive positions. Now, with that being said, like he said, we talk to different professionals. We talking about coaches, you know, we talking about scouts.


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[Assistant] And we also talking about Cam's peers, some of the players. None of those are listed.


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[Assistant] But they had rankings for 11 different positions and defensive end is one of the positions. So top edge rushers were ranked instead. Now Jordan has a problem with that. And this is Cam's tweet right here. Wonder if they have a complete true defensive end ranking.


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[Assistant] You know, he, he carries on and cam has a point because.


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[Assistant] You talk about edge rushers because, you know, that's the big stat that gets you paid. If you're a guy that


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[Assistant] Known to get to the quarterback. That usually means that you'll get some big bucks.


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[Assistant] Now Yannick N'Gakwe is interested in, like we said, the reason why Yannick N'Gakwe had all those teams in the several years that he was out there after he like, left the Jaguars because the.


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[Assistant] Point on him, the sticking point to Yannick and Gokwe, he's a pass rusher, but that's, he, he's not good at the run. So anyway, if you look at.


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[Assistant] The tweet, best addresses NFL ranked by executives, players, scouts, coaches, whatever.


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[Assistant] And he sees Nick Bosa there with Miles Garrett, Mika Parsons, and then TJ White from the Steelers is there. You know?


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[Assistant] He says, wonder if they have a complete, a complete true defensive end ranking and why is edge rushers always taken away from true encompassed by the term? How many know what stop the run means?


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[Assistant] Jordan said in a follow-up tweet that he views the rankings as a slap in the face.


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[Assistant] Like a slap to the face of ends I looked up to from Chris Dolman. Hell yeaah.


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[Assistant] To Mike Strahan, to Julius Peppers. All those guys are fantastic. So.


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[Assistant] Cam has a point. Most of those players, and this is the top 10 edge rusher list from ESPN, Bolsa, Gary Paulsen's, Watt, Redick, Crosby, Burns, Judan.


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[Assistant] Miller and Joy Bolsa. So both Bolsas are on the list.


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[Assistant] Most of those players play all three downs, but you understand why Jordan felt sliding.


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[Assistant] Jordan has to, he has been to the Pro Bowl in each of the last six seasons and eight overall. Despite that, he was only named as an alternate on the list.


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[Assistant] Jordan has never been afraid to speak his mind, so it's no surprise he made his feelings known about the snub. I don't think he gives a rat's, you know, opportunity.


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[Assistant] About their, you know, about their list. He's clarifying the term, edge rusher. You know, a lot of people fall in love with the term edge rusher. And I see what Cam is saying. I understand why he feels the way he does about the term.


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[Assistant] Now it could be a little bit of the sticking that he wasn't listed on the list because at some point when you're reading and looking around, like I tell you guys all the time that these guys read these things.


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[Assistant] I've often say that they listen, they listen to these shows. They hear all of that and.


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[Assistant] That is because, you know, in many cases, a lot of them say we don't pay attention to the noise.


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[Assistant] Well that can mean a lot of stuff. That can mean, you know, that, that, that could be.


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[Assistant] Noise that don't make sense or, you know, you could be getting constructive, uh, you know, criticism coming from people.


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[Assistant] You know, I was on the outside, the, you know, on the outside of the building, you can get constructive criticism from people like that that says, well, this guy needs to do this and do that. But like I've, I've always said, uh, for a while.


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[Assistant] That these guys listen to these shows, they read these articles about guys putting them on lists and ranking them because they want to see what people see about them from the outside looking in.


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[Assistant] Cam Jordan has done just about everything that he possibly can as a player to be super productive. Like especially he missed the one game over the several seasons.


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[Assistant] The one of the massive records as a defensive end.


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[Assistant] In the sack record that Ricky Jackson held for many years, Ricky Jackson, Hall of Famer. So Cam has a point.


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[Assistant] With the edge rusher. Like I said, edge rushers, people fall in love with the edge rushers, but he's absolutely right.


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[Assistant] An edge rusher is a guy that is known to put pressure on, you know, from the outside, on the edge, on the corner, shooting around to the quarterback and provide pressure.


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[Assistant] But it is, it is a bit of a limited sounding term. He's right. A defensive end is a guy that does both. He's a guy that is able to not only rush the pass and put pressure on consistently.


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[Assistant] But he also, when he's double team or even triple team, like we've seen Cam in, done many years, he's able to stop.


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[Assistant] In diagnose the situation, put his hands up to bat the ball down or wait to see if running backs are coming out of there. He's able to kind of maintain integrity of the defensive line.


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[Assistant] He's chasing those fast defense, these fast quarterbacks around.


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[Assistant] So Cam has done that consistently over the last several seasons for the black and gold.


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[Assistant] We talking about on the free agency market, Yannick Ngakwe pops up, uh, Clowney pops up, guys like that. We don't consider them defensive ends, meaning you have the ability to be able to stop the run and as input pressure on the quarterback, a defensive end does have those duties to do, you know?


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[Assistant] And also having the ability to diagnose plays so he know which, which to do.


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[Assistant] And Cam is one of the smartest, man. He's one of the smartest players in the league.


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[Assistant] Uh, and he is, uh, been one of the most available players in the league. So it's, it's a very interesting point.


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[Assistant] By cam and also shout out to cam Jordan because today's his birthday. So happy birthday to cam the man, Jordan cam. Happy birthday to you, sir. I know cam had something to pop up and say about the defensive end situation. So.


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[Assistant] Would say you great st. Think tank. Talk to me about that. How do you feel about defensive in camp Jordan's comments?


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[Assistant] On the edge rusher rankings, he should be on some of these lists. He really should.


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[Assistant] It really should be on some of these lists. I know they love the bosses and the bosses are very good.


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[Assistant] I know they love when the Watson or TJ and JJ White, when they played a, when JJ played, he was, you know, in his prime, he was a wild beast. You know, so.


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[Assistant] It's just intriguing and interesting to see how that all goes and as we come into the season with, uh, defensive end camp Jordan as the.


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[Assistant] Solidified guy on our defensive line. We're looking at opposite guys, whether that be Carl Granderson, Isaiah Foskey, or even Peyton Turner. Could those guys be complete defensive ends like Cam Jordan is?


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[Assistant] Not missing any time and every play giving it everything you got. Cam Jordan, never talk about low motor with cam. We never talk, talk about.


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[Assistant] Uh, none of that type of stuff because he has a very high motor. He brings it every snap.


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[Assistant] And that's why people love and respect Cam Jordan because he's not a hypocrite. He walks in the steps of a person that is doing.


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[Assistant] He's, whatever he's saying, he's doing it, he's exhibiting it on the field of play. So, what you guys think about Cam's comments? He considers it a slap in the face, and to a degree, he's not mentioned on some of those lists, and those are some very good players there, but yeaah.


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[Assistant] You gotta throw Cam in there somewhere, and I think that's a part of this as well. You gotta give Cam Jordan respect.


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[Assistant] All right, so let's move on to the next topic right here fam as this is, and this was coming by way.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Saints news network, shout out to the guys, the Saints hired a director of analytics from the Jets.


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[Assistant] The Saints are reported hiring Zach Stewart away from the Jets to serve as their director.


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[Assistant] of analytics. If you know this has been a trend around the NFL as the


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[Assistant] A lot of the teams, not just this, but a lot of cross pro sports, they really are using analytics.


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[Assistant] To try to help give them more insight on how to improve.


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[Assistant] You know, whatever department that they're working out of. So it, it makes a lot of sense and it works to a degree. Sometimes you get buried in the numbers and some of it means some stuff, a lot of it, you know.


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[Assistant] Depending on what you're looking at, but you know, the saints are trying to keep up.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, with the future wave. So the Saints have hired a director of analytics, according to ESB and Seth Walder.


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[Assistant] Sean Payton was a big supporter of analytics and is possibly an area where Dennis Allen wants to grow.


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[Assistant] But the RFID data and analytics, which is, you know, a lot of that data, you know, the tracking data, uh, you know, some, you know, they put the,


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[Assistant] You know, the microchips and all that type of stuff on the, on the players and they get their.


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[Assistant] Uh, information and they see if they can find ways to prove it. A lot of this works.


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of this stuff actually works and helps to improve what's going on with, with the team. It's a very interesting concept.


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[Assistant] Really good futuristic look and the saints are trying to keep up with the trend.


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[Assistant] Uh, of staying ahead of things like this because sports science is a major field.


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[Assistant] Sports science is a major feeling. Over the last several years, family, we've seen some mighty leaps.


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[Assistant] From the science community dealing with sports, like back in the day, remember


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[Assistant] When you would get a hamstring tear or not, or Tommy John surgery for some of the baseball players out there.


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[Assistant] You know, around that rotator cup, that would pretty much, you know, take your career way back in the day.


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[Assistant] A lot of that stuff is, is, has been, you know, is, is changed. And you can imagine several years into the future.


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[Assistant] A lot of the injuries that impact the players today, how


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[Assistant] Sports science will have involved into a point.


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[Assistant] Where it could be able to minimize and take a lot of a lot of the injuries away. I think it's a great idea.


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[Assistant] But a lot of this stuff like the concussion proof helmets and all this kind of stuff that they're looking at doing to kind of cut down on head injuries in the NFL, all this kind of stuff.


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[Assistant] Uh, that they're looking to, to improve the safety of the game. But that's the, the, the, the process is, you know, as players get faster and faster, the collisions get more violent.


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[Assistant] So there's just something that the team has to do moving forward. All right. So let's jump into the next one right here. This is a new topic right here.


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[Assistant] Let's talk about CBS Sports list Derek Carr as a Tier 4 quarterback in NFL's middle class. Now stop me if you heard this before. We've had several shows on it. We covered it on our Patreon special where we talked about the statistics of Derek Carr and a lot of the reason why Derek Carr gets the middle of the pack.


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[Assistant] A quarterback comment is simply because a lot of people don't view him as a playoff quarterback.


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[Assistant] Like what has he done from a playoff perspective? He hadn't won any games.


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[Assistant] And lead his team deeper to the playoffs and a lot of that is, you know.


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[Assistant] He don't play defense, he don't kick any field goals, you know, he's just only the quarterback of your team. So, but this is how people view it, whether you like it or not, you know.


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[Assistant] He understands that as well. There have been interviews where we've seen or heard from Derek Carr.


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[Assistant] Where he talks about chips on his shoulder. We know he mentioned the Raider commentary, but a lot of people, you know, a lot of people feel that way about car. Now me personally, I wasn't too.


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[Assistant] You know, when we first heard about car, I wasn't a guy that was like.


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[Assistant] Okay, we got Derek Hart. We knew eventually we was going to get him because the Saints were kind of just like milling about and we knew that they were trying to get him traded to the team. And then he kind of buffs that away. And then he comes back and he flips to the side and comes back around and then says, you know, Hey man, guess what? Um,


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[Assistant] I'm, I kinda had a chip on my shoulder how everything played out last year. Oh man, and it is what it is.


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[Assistant] But let's, I'll tell you what, before we finish up this article, because


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[Assistant] You've seen Mike Thomas, we covered it. We played interviews by Mike Thomas. We covered pieces that were written on, on words that were laid out by Michael Thomas about his wanting to get Derek Carr here. And the fact that during the mini camps and all this kind of stuff, you've seen Michael Thomas and Carr constantly talking. They're talking, uh, you know, and to each other.


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[Assistant] When they're not on the field, they're talking about plays, they're talking about how, you know, how do you like this play, what to look for here, what to look for there. And you seeing that happening.


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[Assistant] Well, Michael Thomas and listen, I believe Michael Thomas will play this year and I don't, I think Michael Thomas will play more than 10 games for the Saints this year.


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[Assistant] Might come as a surprise for some because we hadn't seen him that much, but eventually you'll see him more than what we didn't see him over the last three years.


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[Assistant] You know, right, because of the contract and you know, this is a show me year, but.


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[Assistant] He, it's Michael Thomas on one side and there are other people as well.


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[Assistant] Case in point, guys like Chris Olavi. Chris Olavi recently went on the Richard Sherman show and he talked about his relationship or his connection and his thoughts on Derek Carr.


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[Assistant] And I think, uh, let's play that right now, family. We'll get back to the article.


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[Assistant] All right. So there you go. We talk about that man and he makes mention of that as well and talks about his relationship with Michael Thomas. And this is also a very good dynamic here. We talk about, uh, the,


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[Assistant] You know, the, the, when we deal with the car situation, you have to add the Michael Thomas thing to it.


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[Assistant] Rashid Shahid, both players that are from the west coast. That Michael Thomas.


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[Assistant] Who has taken under his wing, he's, he's really big on both Rasheed Shaheed and Chris Olavi.


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[Assistant] It's big because during Michael Thomas' time here in New Orleans, a lot of the great records, and this is something that I'll never take away from.


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[Assistant] Michael Thomas or people can't take away from Michael Thomas.


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[Assistant] Uh, I guess compliment. There you go. That's the proper word I'm looking for.


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[Assistant] Without having a really good solid compliment wide receiver next to him, like you had Jerry Rice for many years had John Taylor next to him. You know what I'm saying? And eventually down the line as he got older, you seen other players, you know, roll into that thing, but.


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[Assistant] That's never been the case with Michael Thomas. He's always been that guy and for many years, several years he had.


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[Assistant] Trey Kwan Smith as a compliment. If you can pitch it at crap, which you don't really have to picture it because we done been through it, you know, let's not think about it. But I say that about car.


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[Assistant] As we bring it back here because this kind of adds layers to the comment about.


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[Assistant] Now we knew he had good, fantastic players in the offense with the Raiders. That was one of the most, probably it was the most talented area of that team for many years when he was there was the fact that that offense had players.


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[Assistant] You know, the really good players like Josh Jacobs and Devonte Adams and, and Darren Waller, those guys were phenomenal. You know, they were phenomenal players and they attempted to build the team more so.


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[Assistant] It's a different, and I, and I'm not saying it cause I'm, we're who, the who that nation, but I'm being real.


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[Assistant] If you look at Carr and you study the film, you don't even have to use your imagination to be honest, which you could just study the film on Carr and expect, you know, if he brings just that, what he had along with the weapons the saints have, I mean, he will have phenomenal, um, he'll have phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Success here. Like, like this. And we, and I was talking to...


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[Assistant] Uh, a fellow today, shout out to Kevin, man. Shout out to Kev. We were having this conversation, man, about, you know.


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[Assistant] Car coming here and not, we're not gonna, and then Drew Brees was in a commentary about Drew leaving San Diego to come here.


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[Assistant] And the expectation, a lot of people didn't see Drew Brees coming here winning the championship, even though his saints were high on Drew Brees. When he first stepped through the door, we knew we had a smart quarterback.


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[Assistant] But we, we thinking like we're going to win a lot of games and you know, and build this team up and they did that.


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[Assistant] But for Drew Brees to take it from what he was when he started here, when he was drafted by the charges and gets pushed out of the door by the draft and the Philip Rivers, and then ultimately hits free agency right after his injury occurred.


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[Assistant] Hits free agency, chooses Miami over the Saints and then.


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[Assistant] Miami decides to go with call pepper over Drew. Drew then comes to New Orleans, you know, the year after Katrina, you know, to help build the team moving forward and.


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[Assistant] The Saints really had to build that offense up. You know, that's the year we had Reggie Bush with the draft pick and all that. And the Saints had to really reconstruct the entire offense around Drew Brees.


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[Assistant] If the saints had wouldn't, if the saints would have laid out the type of lineup for Drew Brees when he first stepped in the door as a free agent versus, you know, what they've given car and you have AIDS.


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[Assistant] Very good Michael Thomas, even though Michael Thomas has missed a lot of games over the last three years, he's also missed a lot of abuse from the NFL. He hadn't taken a lot of hits and abuse from the NFL over the last three years because he's, he hadn't played that much. He was rehabbing. So his body didn't have to suffer.


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[Assistant] A lot of the aggression or the violence over the, over that three year span, right? So that's a, that's, that's a positive for the saints if we looking at it.


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[Assistant] Chris Olavi's drafting because of the influence of Michael Thomas. So if you really think about it, when you're dealing with Derek Carr, the one constant that keeps popping up here.


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[Assistant] In the offense is Michael Thomas. Dennis Allen first win.


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[Assistant] You know, when he got the job, he went out to California and spoke with Michael Thomas because soon as he got the job, rumors started circulating around that Michael Thomas.


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[Assistant] That the Saints were going to trade them. So Dennis Allen did a very smart and proactive thing. I'm giving them credit.


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[Assistant] He went out there, talked to Michael Thomas, told him, told him he wants him to be a part of the team.


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[Assistant] And asked what he can do. Michael Thomas told Dennis Allen to draft Chris Olavi. Dennis Allen then traded several first round picks to move up.


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[Assistant] Get Chris Olavi to give him to the Saints offense to pair him with Michael Thomas, which forms a fantastic combo.


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[Assistant] Then of course injuries happened to the Saints wide receiver room. The guys like Jarvis Landry and people like that last year, which and Deontay Harris-Harty.


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[Assistant] Which gave Rashid Shahid an opportunity to be seen and look where he is now. And once again, the constant is Michael Thomas talking and pushing for the saints and bringing in Derek Carr into the team, bringing in Crystal Lobby into the team, uh, working with Rashid Shahid. Michael Thomas has been phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Let's get, and I say all that DeCon and I played the interview, just kind of, you know, add a little veneer to the conversation because.


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[Assistant] Often people are looking at car from a Raider perspective and I guess that's fine based on the fact that that's all we have right now, right? As opposed to some of the things that we've seen over


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[Assistant] With the red jersey as you can see on the screen. It is his team.


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[Assistant] The thing that I realized about the car signing is...


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[Assistant] It's a, it brings an exciting brand of football to New Orleans. The Saints have quick strike ability now on their offense where they have guys more than one, more than one wide receiver that can get up the field very fast.


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[Assistant] And the Saints can score quick on teams or get back into games and not, they're never out of games.


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[Assistant] You know, they're never going to be a threat to be out of games. The score is 14 and nothing and we losing to some other teams.


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[Assistant] The saints have the quick ability to kind of get back into this thing, but I digress. The Drew Brees commentary versus.


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[Assistant] Car in so far as free agent walks through the door with the Saints. It took several years for the Saints to build a solid offense around Drew. Car walks through the door in year 10.


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[Assistant] With supreme talent all around him at every position, at every position. You see wide receiver running back.


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[Assistant] It's just amazing. We have the wide receiver room, as Ford mentioned, we talked about them. Even some of the reserve guys are going to be special. We talk about the running back room. Elvin Kamara, you have Jamal Williams, who had 17 Russian touchdowns here. Him and Elvin Kamara together is ridiculous. And then you add Kendre Miller there.


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[Assistant] This guy had 16 Russian touchdowns last year in college. Kendre Miller from TCU.


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[Assistant] Then the tight end room. That was the big question mark room in terms of.


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[Assistant] What happens there? So it was the saints patiently waited and shout out to false tomorrow who recently revealed that he is good on the cancer thing that is absolutely phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Shout out to you and blessings goes to Foster Monroe, the hometown kid, because the man, let me tell you something, man.


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[Assistant] Cancer is real. Shout out to my people out there. Much love and blessings, uh, to Sean and the rest of my people out there.


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[Assistant] But listen, cancer is real. Well, you got people that's going through it and they got people that's defeating it every day. It's an inspiration to people that is, to people that's going through it and their family members and loved ones that's going through it with them. When you see somebody


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[Assistant] Whip that thing. That is an inspiration, man. It really is. That can never be undersold, man. That is the true and realest epidemic that is going on in this country right now that they're not putting enough push under. But anyway, car back to him.


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[Assistant] I, and that's something I was just throwing out that we had this talk today and I was like, damn, that's true. It took years for the Saints to build up a really good special offense with Drew at the helm. Carr gets it in year 10 walking through the door.


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[Assistant] So let's see what he does with it. That'll be the biggest thing. So back to the article. Saints brought in veteran quarterback car.


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[Assistant] Brenton created tiers for the NFL quarterbacks and placed every projected starter in one. Those categories were tier one, the big three, tier two, could join them next year, tier three, intrigued with question marks, tier four, you can win with them, five, future potential with them guys, six, no clue man, and seven, the rookies. All right. Carr was placed in the fourth tier, which says you can win with them.


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[Assistant] They can get you to the playoffs if everything about them breaks in their favor.


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[Assistant] But you cannot envision a scenario where they take you on a deep playoff run.


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[Assistant] Or when you're a Super Bowl without a really stout defense run game combo or the star simply aligning. Now let's, let's kind of dig into that, right? Let's dig into what the reporter said. They can, they can get you to the playoffs if.


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[Assistant] Everything about them breaks in their favor but you cannot envision a scenario where they take you on a deep playoff run.


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[Assistant] Let's, let's kind of delve into that. How will the Saints win games this year? We won't truly know, but if you go based on prior years experience, and particularly last year, we only had seven of them, a big part of


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[Assistant] What the Saints need to do to win games, especially with car coming in this, they need to have a powerful running game.


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[Assistant] Do the Saints have a potential powerful running game?


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[Assistant] Elvin Kamara is still one of the best running backs in the NFL.


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[Assistant] He was severely underutilized last year. He's another guy that has a lot to still give you. He's still very dangerous.


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[Assistant] And the offensive saints have built with all these different people around that you have to put spotlights on and pay attention to.


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[Assistant] Merely creates more space, which Elvin, Elvin thrives. He's a satellite back and satellite backs thrive in a space situation. And if you look at the Saints offense, you're not going to be able to clutter up the line of scrimmage and focus on a run. Is they just, they're just too dangerous for that.


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[Assistant] You will get bombed out of the world if you come up in there trying to clutter up the saints.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's just not that kind of ball game this year. They didn't respect what happened last year because they didn't respect Andy Dalton. They figured if you're going to beat us, it won't, if they're going to beat us, it's got to be Andy Dalton. He's got to be the guy.


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[Assistant] And Andy Dalton did put up decent statistics, but in crucial moments of the game, he throwing interceptions.


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[Assistant] You know, holding the ball too long, taking sacks that knock you out of positions at time. I thought he was working for the opposition. It didn't make sense.


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[Assistant] You know, you could, you got a veteran quarterback that had seen 10 plus years of football for him to be taking sacks when he had time to throw the ball away. Don't make no sense to me. It was just really insane.


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[Assistant] What I was watching from him in many of the moments in games, well, we could have actually won. It's just, I just don't know. You know, poor decision making, a lot of that, but.


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[Assistant] The run game, we talk about stout defense and run game. The Saints defense last year was a very solid unit. Now, of course, against the run, they were one of the poorest in the NFL.


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[Assistant] But the reason for a lot of the failure was because the saints.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? It was time we've watched the pathetic, crap, nasty, stinky offense that we had last year go three and out several different series, several straight series of them going three and out and the defense had to get back out there.


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[Assistant] And try to stop them people offense and force a turnover.


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[Assistant] Get the saints off. I remember there were games and y'all put the games in the chat that I remember we were talking about this today.


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[Assistant] A game that we would sit up there and watch the Saints offense go three and out, three and out, three and out, three and out.


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[Assistant] The defense was out there making stops. They were tired.


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[Assistant] And you can't do that to them. That was super unfair with the offense was doing last year. They could, they, the defense had to hold a lot of that and they just couldn't hold up to it. Especially against the run. You know? So.


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[Assistant] What does it take? How will the Saints win games this year early on?


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[Assistant] Because we know, we, we know straight up that Carr will not play in very much football in the preseason, right? We know that.


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[Assistant] That's from a historical standpoint. You'd be fortunate if we see him for a two series out of the entire preseason season, right? When the regular seasons start,


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[Assistant] The way for the Saints to start winning games will be because they will have to learn how to run the ball first.


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[Assistant] The Saints, I'm not gonna say the running, the running room is better than the wide receiver room.


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[Assistant] Is that you want to get your running attack going. You want to get your running attack going. You want to get that going up against the adversaries that you're facing. And this is paramount because the first four games of the season.


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[Assistant] Is when, is actually our preseason, so to speak, because that's when you really see the starters, the starting offensive line.


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[Assistant] Uh, our tight ends, our wide receivers and running backs and QB all get on the same page. It takes live game reps for that to occur. So in the first four games of the NFL season, weeks one through four,


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[Assistant] It's a learning process for them to figure out what plays work the best and ones that don't work, you know, to have more impact for the team.


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[Assistant] So the best way in many cases to win games during that stretch and we're going to throw the ball.


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[Assistant] But we have to learn to run the football and play defense. That's what it comes down to. Running of the football.


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[Assistant] Keeping the pre, and we're going to throw this in here because this will kill the Saints last year too, pre-snap penalties. And this bodes well, we talk about talent and we, you know, we, we put the, the thanking cap here in the great Saint thank tank and we.


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[Assistant] Remember from last year would really hurt the team and it wasn't always injuries. That's the first thing that glossed over because people.


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[Assistant] Totally forget all of the small particular things until you remind them.


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[Assistant] Like what about, the Saints were one of the poorest teams in the NFL last year because of pre-snap penalties. How many people remember all of those, those false start penalties we were getting?


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[Assistant] We'll be rolling along, doing well, and then all of a sudden we'll get three straight false start penalties. Remember Andrus P in one of those games where he had two of the three straight, uh, false start penalties? You see?


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[Assistant] The pre snap penalties was something that is caused by a team. Just, just, just not, just not thinking.


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[Assistant] Presnap penalties, not paying attention, not understanding what's going on.


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[Assistant] So that boils to the defense of the team. Do they improve upon that?


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[Assistant] Getting rid of the pre-snap penalties and the things that shoot us in the foot. That is a big, big part of this thing.


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[Assistant] Winning games in the first four weeks of the season, keeping the turnovers down, keeping the pre-snap penalties down, right?


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[Assistant] Running of the football consistently to open up the play action to be able to throw the ball down the field, right? That's a part of it. And playing defense. We've got to be able to play better defense. We got to still be able to get to the quarterback and we still have to be to prove to people that we can


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[Assistant] Two big questions for the Saints defense coming up in the upcoming season is can the Saints.


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[Assistant] Continue to put pressure on the quarterback, which I believe they will. The bigger question is, can they contain the mobile quarterback threat? Unlike the last several plus years that we had to watch guys run around us last year.


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[Assistant] We faced pretty much all of the speedy quarterbacks that you can imagine, but the NFL, the threat of we faced those guys last year, except for hurt who was hurt during that game and they put a Gardner mince you in there and we made mince me to him. But the reality is.


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[Assistant] That is a big question. And that was a major Achilles heels for the Saints defense. Can they neutralize the mobile QB threat? And the second one is stopping the run. Could they have a better outing this upcoming season than what we've seen last year?


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[Assistant] With the combination of David on Yamada, Shai Tuttle, and Cantabia Street. And guys like Kaelin Saunders, Nate Shepard, and Brian Breesey, and you know, improve in that aspect. And you most simply.


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[Assistant] The look at all three of those guys and says, Hey, David on Yamada is the baller of that group out of the three from last year.


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[Assistant] Guys, we have in here now better than those two or three last year. Now, David on Yamada, I don't see a David on Yamada here just yet out of the new guys here, but Kaelin Saunders could every beat every bit of that. We don't know yet. We'll have to wait and see, but that's a big part of winning it.


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[Assistant] It's not, it's, and we understand how important car is to the dynamic. Yes, indeed.


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[Assistant] If the Saints do what they're supposed to do, we'll have the running attack, which will open up the play action, a successful power running attack.


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[Assistant] Opens up the play action where we can get down the field. And then once we get the play action done, we, you know, it's over with. It is over with.


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[Assistant] With how he can throw the ball down the field. So it's not totally on, all on Carr, even though Carr has to conduct the offense, keep his turn, his interceptions down and turnovers down, lead the offense and simply, simply play within the offense.


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[Assistant] And use the running attack that the saints have blessed him with and all of this fantastic thick ass.


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[Assistant] Thick ass deep talent rooms that we got in terms of our player talent levels. We use all of this stuff.


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[Assistant] We should see a lot of success from the Saints offense, unlike what we seen last year, right? And finally, cause let me tell you.


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[Assistant] Car, here is all of this. These guys and we said this about Cam.


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[Assistant] They hear all of this stuff. They hear all of this. They hear all of this stuff. They hear all of it.


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[Assistant] You know, they hear the criticism, they hear the love, they know who they like and who they don't like when we, like when we play Michael Thomas.


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[Assistant] And they had, uh, Jeff Duncan, he was talking and Michael Thomas looked at him and said, you, you, you don't want to be writing all that BS. And then he didn't like them. You, you kind of.


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[Assistant] He answered his question, but didn't throw no love his way. You get what I'm saying? So yeah, they know who they knew who you are.


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[Assistant] They've been down here for years and they listen to all that stuff. A lot of this motivates them to be better, man. So anyway, let's finish up the article. This makes sense for what car has been.


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[Assistant] For his entire career, but there's a reason he wanted to start something new and head to New Orleans.


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[Assistant] There's a chance for him to raise the stock and maybe enter a new tier next season with a better group of players around. He's the highest rated quarterback in the NFC South.


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[Assistant] Which, you know, that's not saying much with Baker Mayfield, Desmond Ritter and Bryce Young.


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[Assistant] Bryce Young obviously in tier 7 is the rookie group and we'll see.


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[Assistant] Soon learn whether this was an accurate assessment of, of Carr's abilities.


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[Assistant] And I'm going to address the tears of the quarterback tears momentarily, but.


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[Assistant] Nobody wants to really go out on the limb and say that car is the guy that's going to take the saints in a deep love run. Nobody wants to go out on that, on that branch. They're not willing to go out on that limb and say he is the guy because the, there is no reason to defend, right?


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[Assistant] Well, the car is the middle of the pack quarterback or not. According to his numbers and he's been in the league for 10 years, he's the number six highest ranked passer currently of all the passers. Well, people look at this and say, okay, well, whatever, right? Well, whatever. No, longevity is key here, right?


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[Assistant] He's done that mostly as a starter. He fell out of favor with McDaniels and I think McDaniels ultimately going to get fired. I don't think McDaniels is a good head coach. I think he's more of a coordinator and he'll slither back to.


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[Assistant] For the Saints is like, it's, it's a different setup because you come in here, the Saints have invested.


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[Assistant] A ton of talent in every position. I mean, the tight end room was there until they signed Foster Monroe. You got Taysom Hill in there and Jawan Johnson that's ready to step up. Why receivers? We went over that. The running backs, we went over that. They even, you know, thickened up the reserves on the offensive line because we dealt with so much injuries last year that they have really good solid backups with, with, with some potential.


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[Assistant] Billy Price is a really good solid center they picked up. You got Nick Seldivari there.


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[Assistant] When he's healthy, he'll probably end up taking Andrus Pete's guard position, no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] You're looking at other guys that are there like Storm Norton who could play the tackle position. A big guy, a veteran. Don't cost a lot of money, but could help.


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[Assistant] Because they got a lot of the taxpayer money invested in the Superdome. They're looking to bank out with all of the new renovations there. They keep releasing articles.


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[Assistant] They want to bank out and they don't, they do not want them to be the reason why they don't bank out.


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[Assistant] They don't want the losing of the team because they know that if the team is losing and they're losing bad and that hurts the profits of the team. It hurt them last year.


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[Assistant] It hurts him, hurts him a lot and it don't like when guys like myself get up here and say, man, how y'all handle this was trash and da da da da.


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[Assistant] That hits them in their bottom lines because guys like myself that spend heavily with the saints will then withdraw my money.


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[Assistant] You ain't a diehard. No, no, no, I am a diehard, but I'm a smart ass diehard. I'm not a stupid ass. You're not going to just throw my money away at a team that's disrespecting me by not doing or not honoring me or showing me that they're trying to win by making the proper decisions.


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[Assistant] This is some of the stuff that Derek Carr knows and he listens to this, that they consider him a middle of the pack quarterback because.


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[Assistant] You know, what did you do for your team? Did you take them this, that, and the third?


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[Assistant] Then do that with the Raiders because for many years the Raiders was a half a team.


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[Assistant] You got raider people out there will tell you that they were a half a team. There were a joke in many cases. You were a half a team and they were pathetic. Now you can't say that about the saints.


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[Assistant] The Saints are loaded on offense. They defense retool on the defensive line.


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[Assistant] Could use another veteran linebacker. I'll give you that. We'll kind of lead off into it. That's the perfect segue. It's our final article.


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[Assistant] But they don't, they're not missing much, but Carr is listening to this and playing with a chip on his shoulder, not just because how he left the Raider country, but to dispel the overall thought process on him being a guy that's just the middle of the pack guy that can't take you anywhere.


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[Assistant] See, he understands that now and he came here to win. He said that on several press conferences. I'm in New Orleans because I'm here to win. So you wasn't winning when you was over there with Oakland now.


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[Assistant] Or with the raid in Los Angeles or whatever the hell you want to call them. Oakland, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, whatever.


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[Assistant] He wasn't winning over that. Obviously not enough for him to come here and say, I come here to win.


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[Assistant] Well, guess what? Yes, we want you to win and the Saints want you to win too. So man, we got a little bit before this kicked off family. We got a couple of weeks left and we're going to finally see it. So y'all need to be excited. I know I'm excited too.


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[Assistant] Alright, final article, and to talk about a perfect segue, baby, into the final article, we understand and know that the


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[Assistant] We went over the team backwards and forwards with a fine tube cone. We understand that one of the supreme things that's happening.


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[Assistant] With the saints here in terms of the depth of each position group.


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[Assistant] They've addressed it, the tight end position they brought in Foster Monroe.


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[Assistant] You had to wait on that thing because he had to clear out and the sinks did it. And that's how they looking now.


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[Assistant] Now we talk about everything else, what's left to talk about. Now you could also say,


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[Assistant] Could use another veteran rotational in, or a defensive tackle rather, to be there.


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[Assistant] Which that could also be solved by just drawing to new passenger in that role.


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[Assistant] And then you will have Passiol along with the rest of them guys, as well as Malcolm Roach.


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[Assistant] And then of course you will have push from a guy like Jaren Cage, uh, Jack Hefflow, Hefflow would, you know, all the rest of these guys, one of these undrafted guys are going to step up.


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[Assistant] And I've been saying, watch out for a guy like Jaren Cage. He can push Malcolm Roach, man. He can push him.