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[Assistant] The, the, the mindset overall, that's what that is. When you talk about people confused about culture, that's what it is. And we, you know, y'all guys seen the interview.


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[Assistant] Drew Brees talking about what his thoughts was on how critical the family members been about what's happening with this team. And he said, it's a good thing. And I said the same damn thing. What are these people talking about, man? What are they talking about?


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[Assistant] This is a winning organization. We finally got it fair after all of the funk and the stink and they're trying to bring it back down. They're trying to lower the floor. We're not going to let you lower the floor.


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[Assistant] We're not gonna do that. This is an organization that's supposed to be playing for playoffs. It's a team that's one of the oldest teams in the NFL.


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[Assistant] They supposed to be in the playoffs the last three years, especially the last two years. This is not a rebuilding team. People gotta remember.


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[Assistant] When they come into, I remember all the shit they say when they come into it, but then when they don't win and they don't handle their business, then they won't turn around and change it to suit or to make excuses for why they failed it. That can't happen. We won't let you do that.


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[Assistant] We won't sit up here and let you change it when you originally came into it because they don't want to be held accountable by the standard that they themselves supposed to keep up. But we won't lower the floor.


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[Assistant] You know, this, we know what a real quarterback looks like. And when you took $150 million, this is not what a real quarterback look like. A guy that's totally, you know, that's not countable, that throws the ball here or there, passes upside down. Some don't even look at half the field half the time. You know, you're looking left and, I mean, it's just crazy. There is no excuse for that, man.


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[Assistant] All right. Thank you, bro. But yeah, Michael Thomas, man, we know Michael Thomas was, we understood that.


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[Assistant] And Mike advocated for Derek Carr to come here. He never asked you that damn question, by the way, cause I wanted to hear what he said. Like you advocated for him to come here. Now all of a sudden you feel this kind of way? Expound. What changed? Hmm?


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[Assistant] You advocated for this, for this car to be parked in New Orleans. You was advocating for him. Hm? You were advocating for him, right?


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[Assistant] You have got, I didn't get any answer for that. You was after all that other shit, but you ain't out, you ain't answer that. You didn't answer that. All right. T greatness says who that nation, you're right.


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[Assistant] We love our team, but he's, he's the first I've seen booed in a long time. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Thank you for that T greatness. Listen, bro, you're right. The man got booed. Why? Because he's not performing up to standard. He's not performing up to the code.


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[Assistant] Mickey Lomas and Sal said they don't like the fact that he's getting booed. Why? Because they don't hold the dude accountable.


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[Assistant] If they would make sure he do the stuff that he's supposed to do in practice, like overlook the entire field. I keep saying the same thing. The film, the dude don't look over the field and when he have good games, it's because he is actually looking over the field. That's laziness. That's not dumb. He's not a stupid guy.


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[Assistant] That's laziness why you get up there and you take a rep and you just stare down one side and don't go to the other and they got people running down the field wide open. That was one of Thomas's critiques, his criticisms about him.


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[Assistant] You throwing over here, trying to force the ball over here, checking it down to the left. And there's a guy running wide open to the right or he has a single covered, uh, cornerback on it with no safety support. Throw that ball up there to that dude on opposite side. Never happened because he never looked in that direction. That's something that he does that's going to keep him from losing.


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[Assistant] And until he fixes that part of his game, hopefully whoever coming in here could get that together because them last group of cons that we had talking to him, they wouldn't even approach that topic. It was terrible. Robert says, what's up, Robert says Q, what do you think about losing Taysom Hill? Well, we got what? One more year Taysom? Uhm, of being here?


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[Assistant] I mean bro, at some point we gotta, we gotta do something else, man. We gotta, like for me, Taysom's a running back. Like he's just a running back and we use him at wide receivers sometimes. He's not a tight end.


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[Assistant] He does catch the ball out the backfield extremely well. I love Taysom Hill's aggressiveness. I love the fact that when he's on, you can't stop him.


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[Assistant] That's the thing. The quarterback thing has sailed. I don't see him as a quarterback because he's not accurate at all. You can see he don't even work on that aspect as opposed to him running and catching of the ball. But eventually he makes a lot of money, man.


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[Assistant] And he's getting older. Eventually we're going to have to move past Jason.


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[Assistant] And I know Sean Payton ultimately. I wouldn't be surprised if Sean Payton.


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[Assistant] Calls Dennis Allen again, say you won't give up, tell you some. I know I see your little cash strapped over there. You won't give up, tell you some.


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[Assistant] You know, so I mean, in the end, man, listen, uh, I wouldn't, uh, Taysom's getting older. He's an impact player. But like I said, we had a window of what we was going to do. Taysom is one of the players, Cam, Taysom, Tyron.


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[Assistant] Should be contributing to you winning right now that you competing for, you know, getting into playoffs at the very least and having an opportunity to try to get there.


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[Assistant] You know, you know, try to get there, like be in the playoff conversation every year and getting there and then making something happen.


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[Assistant] At some point, this, this, this is all gonna run out where we not gonna be able to.


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[Assistant] Have nothing to do with this timeline. The timeline is going to run out. And I'm looking at like this year coming up where that old timeline is going to have to have to go because Taysom's contract is up I think after this year. And you know, Demario's getting older, Tyron's getting older, but


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[Assistant] Lose and take some hill bro at some point, whether it's this year or the next year, man, eventually it's going to happen. He does make a lot of money, man. All right. So anyway.


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[Assistant] Alright, shout out to the fam. PelicansNola says, what's up big Q in the family? Shout out to PelicansNola. Much love to you.


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[Assistant] Alright, H-Town says, Mike Evans, Mike T, are the same age. Who you gonna pick? Bro, I season when I have to take Mike Evans, man.


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[Assistant] I take Mike Evans because of, you know, the fact that he plays more, you know, he, when his mind is right, he's a dangerous weapon. No disrespect to Mike Thomas, but you make it a real ease when age town Creel, when you asked me to pick between the two, cause Mike Thomas is really not an option here because he's basically already gone. You heard this interview.


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[Assistant] What Derek Carr basically said, I love Mike, you know, I hope he.


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[Assistant] I wish him well, I hope he gets what he wants, which is basically just sayonara in him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you brung me here, now I'm bringing, now I'm shippin' your ass up outta here, you know?


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[Assistant] Oh, and when? Okay, I'm sorry bro, I'm just all kind of ways looking at just trying to figure it out. And when he messes up, ain't no more.


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[Assistant] P.A.T. on his back. Ain't no- Okay, bro, you got the- I'll tell you what, Brian, bro, send me another one.


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[Assistant] Say, bro, send me another one, bro. Send me another one, bro. Well, I have to work to figure it out, bro. I-I-I'ma try to answer. Do me another one, brother. Send me another one. KB, what's up, bro? Say, yo Q, can you see them bringing in? No, bro. No area. I don't see them bringing in, uh, and being-beingin' me?


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[Assistant] For what purpose would they be bringing in Eric Bieneme? I don't see, uh, uh, him, them bringing in Eric Bieneme. And, uh, cause if Clint could be asked offensive coordinator.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't see Biennemy, what role would Eric Biennemy play with the Saints? Remember, he had an opportunity a couple years ago to take the offensive role with the Saints, and I think it was rumored was offensive, uh, the coordinator job and an assistant head coach job, and it just, he turned it down. That's when the Saints were trying to figure it out, you know, when,


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[Assistant] The eight hour interview when they were looking to hire, it's the year they hired Dennis Salad.


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[Assistant] So I don't think Eric Bieneme, that would sour me to come back to the Saints to play with my time and money like that or, you know, play with my time for eight hours and then turn around and offer me an offensive job that I already had. You know, why would I do that? I think Eric Bieneme's approach is that he wants to be a head coach.


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[Assistant] I mean, they just, and it's sad, and like I often talk about it at the general manager level, like this team has to get younger. They have to get younger from the top down. There's too many older people up there not doing anything. No disrespect to...


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[Assistant] Uh, to, to Gail, but Gail is, Gail gotta learn quick on the job.


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[Assistant] But these other guys like Mickey Lumis, I'm cool with Mickey being a VP, but we need a more progressive minded younger general manager to take that job. And Mickey Lumis is basically blocking everybody from getting that general manager position. He doesn't need two jobs. He has a job on the team as the VP. He doesn't need the general manager job either. He doesn't need that.


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[Assistant] He just wants to credit for being a general manager because nobody talks about a VP unless it's Griffin with the Pelicans because he's so visual.


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[Assistant] But general manager, we need a real general manager, one that engages the players and not hells or do stupid speeches at the end of the year when it don't count for nothing.


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[Assistant] Talks about being uncomfortable, making life uncomfortable with him when he's supposed to be the one that's life made uncomfortable by. And I'm doing my absolute best to make his job, his life uncomfortable in terms of being a general manager because he don't need to be that. You're holding on to something that you don't deserve to have.


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[Assistant] You don't deserve to have that general manager position. You got the VP, you got a job you do not need to. You don't even do it well. You're not doing it well.


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[Assistant] So I'm for getting a younger general manager there, whether it's Kai or.


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[Assistant] One of those, Kai should be the guy. He was elevated to assistant GM yesterday. I mean, last year. Last year, maybe.


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[Assistant] This year, he can become the general manager. He's worked with Mickey Mickey and showed them the game. Let the man take the job and stop holding people up.


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[Assistant] Let people progress into the organization, not just training them to go somewhere else. Don't do that.


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[Assistant] Kai, the general manager, he, he's the, he's the VP.


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[Assistant] But I don't know, I'm not going anywhere for 10 years and then I might turn it. Oh no, somebody need to be saying nah, bro. And that just goes to show you ain't no evaluations is going on up there, bro.


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[Assistant] Nobody's, who's evaluating making lumas? For real, who's doing it?


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[Assistant] I'm saying it's a joke, man. Who's evaluating these guys to make sure they're doing their damn jobs? Who's doing it? The answer is nobody. That's how you can talk like that and fail year after year.


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[Assistant] And then when we come from, he wants to insult and be elitist and stick his nose up in the air and talk about you not that you don't know such, such, such, such. You don't know such. I know you, I know you losing. I know you're a failure.


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[Assistant] That's what I know. I want you dismissed. I want you off the general manager job. Keep your smell ass VP job. But the general manager needs to go somebody that know how to do something with players that know how to talk to them. Know how to appease issues in the building. Not one dude sitting up there with his dough clothes.


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[Assistant] Who gonna come with a feathery speech, a feathery speech at the end of the year about accountability. Are you kidding me?


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[Assistant] Get out of here. 504 says Q, this might be a play for Kubiak to eventually take over as the head coach. I wouldn't be mad at that, bro. I wouldn't be mad. It's not, it's not hard to unseat Dennis Allen. The issue is you got, uh, Mickey Loomis was not really, he's a general miss manager.


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[Assistant] Running a team with, and has bad sight, bad vision. Don't know what he doing. Nobody looks at Dennis Allen and say he's a great coach, but a mad man.


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[Assistant] A guy that's off his meds, eyes bucking, face flush, chewing gum, a madman. A guy out of his mind, out of his top. Off his meds. Nobody looks at that guy and believes he's a great coach. Come on.


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[Assistant] Not even he, you don't even look in the mirror and say, you're a great coach. Keep it real, dude.


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[Assistant] Tyrell says, we fans are not qualified yet. They still got a new Ophi and got rid of Moro- There you go. Thank you, bro. Appreciate you. Pelican says, make it Dumas is in the build. That's right. Oh, hold on now. Dumas. Don't do me that.


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[Assistant] Yo QK, you see them bringing in Eric Bienneme at some kind of offensive, reasonable position? No, I do not bro. I'm sorry KB, I do not see that.


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[Assistant] Do you think that this new OC took his job knowing he could be the head coach there?


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[Assistant] I don't know if he took the job for that. I think he took it as an opportunity to advance somewhere. But in terms of your first question, KB, uhm, no.


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[Assistant] No Eric B, I don't see that even happening because if Clint's the OC, that's Eric B enemy spot. What is he supposed to be? The senior assistant? No.


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[Assistant] He's going to be an offensive, uh, uh, coordinator until he's a head coach. That's what being a miss philosophy is. And that's something that he said, uh, a couple of times I've seen interviews with him doing that. And in terms of your second question,


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[Assistant] If, if, if the Saints offense succeed, the Saints will extend.


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[Assistant] Dennis Allen. That's all the proof that Mickey Loomis needs and we won't be able to get rid of him then. So if, if it's successful, they'll extend Dennis Allen.


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[Assistant] Megan Lummis is looking for reasons to keep Dennis Allen as the head coach of this team. If the Saints win next year, you're stuck with Dennis Allen. You know, so.


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[Assistant] We'll see. We'll see how it all goes, KB. Thank you for your questions.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, H-Town once again says, I was a Law of Saints fan. All my 53 years on there have been when I seen them keeping Noodle Arm past his prime while losing talent. Yeah, they had an opportunity to make a change. They just simply didn't do it. You know, it's all good.


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[Assistant] All right, Ayo, what's up fam says, okay, this is our first year with a new QB in the system and we went 9-8.


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[Assistant] What's your point? Okay, I don't know if that's aimed at me, Ayo, or if you talking in the, I don't know.


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[Assistant] What you're saying, but I guess I'll try to answer to the best of my ability, just to comment. Uhm, 98 point. Uhm.


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[Assistant] A new QB and a new system. Uh, if it's, if we're talking to Saints here, it's not a new system. The Saints have had this system in place for years now. It's the same system mine is showing Peyton. The only thing you're missing is, uh, an alpha dog balls. Uh, you know, like,


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, you know, confidence, that type of thing. That's not Mickey, uh, uh, Pete Carmichael.


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[Assistant] QB friendly system that the Saints have had installed for years, so uhm, no.


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[Assistant] So that doesn't work. It's a QB-friendly system. Nine and eight, the point is, nine and eight is not a success year. I don't know, I think you commented to somebody else.


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[Assistant] But nine and eight is not a success year for the New Orleans Saints. And the reason why nine and eight is not a success is because you have an older team. So you gotta go back, people gotta go back and remember when this started, when Dennis Allen took the job two years ago.


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[Assistant] The understanding was, and this is what they're saying, and I agreed with them at the time, and I still agree.


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[Assistant] That the Saints are an older team with guys like Cam DiMario Davis, and there's a two to three year or three year time window.


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[Assistant] Before these said older players started to regress and play. You see what's happening with Cam now, Demario Davis still playing at a higher level. But at some point, fall the time steps in and you start seeing some of these good veteran productive resources dwindle. So the window for winning needs to happen over that said timeframe.


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[Assistant] Nine and eight is not a, if you're not in the playoffs, it is considered a loss. The only person that gets a win from nine and eight is Dennis Allen because he never had a winning record as a head coach. Now you can say I had a nine and eight.


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[Assistant] Record. Well, the Saints team over the last two years, especially were teams that were designed to be ploughed teams. They failed not because of so much of the off-season stuff, but mostly the end-season stuff. Like, they'll have a trades arm, they'll make moves.


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[Assistant] They'll bring, they'll have signings. They'll bring guys into the team.


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[Assistant] It looks good in the off season, but when the on season comes, they can't get it. And that's Dennis Allen's job, of course, is to translate it and success where the Saints make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] So I mean you see during the season him electing not to do anything with offensive play caller position. Meaning Pete Car, uh, Carmichael had many games of failure losing streaks. He could have made a change offensively and allowed somebody else just to call the plays because this happens. We see a doubt the NFL.


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[Assistant] Offensive coordinator struggles, be bringing another guy, let him just see if it's.


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[Assistant] His assistant or whatever the QB's coach or the pass game coordinator calls the plays. Let's see if the offense responds to that. None of that happened. He never changed anything.


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[Assistant] It just, it just stayed the same and then they lose and he just makes excuses on at the end of the year that he's pissed. He's pissed because he didn't make the end season changes. So you have the resources from the out season or the off season when it comes to on season is the head coach's job to get this team to win. And he didn't win because they were not.


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[Assistant] For the New Orleans Saints, Greg says, divide and conquer. Carey knew when he was doing by name, dropping a lot of his name at the number one receiver. Okay. Thank you. So yeah, divide and conquer. Yeah. And, and he hung out Chris Olavi, but I don't respect that type of behavior.


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[Assistant] And that's why I kind of look at Carr side-eyed because he's, I've caught him lying in interviews before.


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[Assistant] It's, it's real sketchy, sketchy behavior. And when you start seeing, cause nobody's perfect, but at the end of the day, it's two things you want to see from the leaders of the team. You want to see them take the arrows and bows. Even if they're not at fault, take those because that's how you get the respect of teammates around, like people that know that.


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[Assistant] They were at fault for dropping a pass or missing a block or fumbling the ball or whatnot.


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[Assistant] And quarterback comes out, says, that's all on me, man.


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[Assistant] You know, I should have, you know, I've had to done this, this, that take the blows. You're the leader of the team. That's what it's about. That's why you make the money. 150 million dollars. You're supposed to be the guy that take all of the responsibility of why the team loses. And you know, most of the time when he loses our fields and even though they win and you're a big part of it, you say we went as a team.


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[Assistant] But when you lose, you take the bowls. That's what leaders do.


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[Assistant] The same thing with the head coach. The head coach not supposed to get on the press conference at the end of the season.


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[Assistant] And backstabs his offensive unit. They did that on their own and apologized to the rival. That stuff, let me tell you how it should have been handled behind closed doors. Like everybody want these tweets and all this stuff happening that they keep talking about?


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[Assistant] Why, same damn thing with Dennis Allen. Nobody shouldn't have known about the team running the play without his consent. He blow the whistle on all of them and threw his team under the bus. That's not a leader does that. Nobody wants to play for a guy like that. Nobody. You can't trust that guy. He's been.


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[Assistant] Uh, accused of lying and backstabbing before. He was with the Raiders. He lied and backstabbed.


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[Assistant] With the Saints, he does it. You don't put a Weasley little guy like that over your team.


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[Assistant] You'll have instant division from the start and teams need to be together to win.


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[Assistant] So I mean, have a non-accountability, a Weasley backstabby coach and a guy.


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[Assistant] A guy that don't want to account for hanging this wide receivers out the drive. That's not going to, that's not a good recipe for anything. That's good. All right. So anyway.


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[Assistant] All right, y'all are guys, y'all got Jack says, uh, I don't think the saints could cut empty because they will be in lawsuit for injuries. I don't, I don't think that's, I don't know if that to be true, bro. All right. Anyway, any questions fam?


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[Assistant] All right. Ayo says, I'm laughing, wear a bastion card. Bro, listen, bro. Listen, open your ears. Ayo, total, whatever.


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[Assistant] Listen to what people are saying. I don't know what you comment, who you're commenting to in the press. I think you talk, I mean in the chat you're talking to somebody, but listen.


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[Assistant] You're not bashing somebody. See, this is the, understand me and hear me well. Hear me. Understand what people, what I'm saying to you.


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[Assistant] Is that you're not bashing somebody when you point out the fact.


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[Assistant] Of the situation surrounding where the team is supposed to be.


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[Assistant] We're not talking about him throwing 25 or 28, whatever the touchdowns versus interceptions. We're talking about cars accountability.


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[Assistant] Why these things are happening. Mike Thomas is not tweeting for his health.


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[Assistant] He's had constant circumstances with his other wire receivers, Rashid Shahid and Chris Olavi. They've gotten into it.


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[Assistant] The issue is why is he getting into it with all these people?


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[Assistant] It's because that's not how leaders leaves frustration because he's not doing, he's not taking accountability for his actions, for what's going on with the field. And they don't appreciate that.


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[Assistant] Like if it's one isolated incident, that's different. But this stuff keeps reoccurring. This keeps reoccurring.


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[Assistant] It's not car bashing when we talk about cars and abilities to be more accountable. He's making 150 million dollar quarterbacks. We can't, you can't, you can't afford to coddle and protect them. If he does wrong, you gotta say what he did wrong. If he does well, you gotta say what he does well. But when you took the 150 million dollar job to be here, it comes with playoff trips.


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[Assistant] None of this, he knew that coming into it, like, you get signed here, you gotta get the team to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] You got to be there and anything short of that is a failure. That's how it is. Every situation is different.


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[Assistant] Uh, in the NFL, but here in New Orleans, older team.


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[Assistant] It's considered a failure because listen, they done fired all the damn people around them.


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[Assistant] We just gonna look past the fact that they fired Pete Carmichael.


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[Assistant] Gonna look past the fact that they fired every, they done fired everybody around them. Majority of all the assistant coaches that were fired.


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[Assistant] He failed. It was a failure. If it was a success, then most of these guys would still have their job. There wouldn't be no need to go and look for another offensive coordinator to be with him if it was a failure. So that's why they just dismantling.


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[Assistant] The offense around him and now he's going to go into another year with a whole new system.


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[Assistant] To learn again so he will have struggles again. Remember, it took him the last year, I mean the last month of the season before he started showing some consistency. By that time...


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[Assistant] The Saint's window of operating was out. They lost to the Rams.


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[Assistant] They lost to teams they shouldn't have lost to, and a lot of the games you go back and watch, it was terrible performances by the offense. They were just kicking field goals in the game. Just field goal kicking. Offense three and out and three and out and three and out and three and out.


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[Assistant] Uh, poor throws, interceptions, uh, overthrows, miscommunications, this, he throwing to this area and a guy going to the other side, constant miscommunications between a quarterback and his wide receivers, constant. Even when you're like, what, half the season and you still having these kind, I mean, several of them during.


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[Assistant] Games, it was like really baffling, like how are they still disjointed? You know, so.


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[Assistant] We might have to repeat this in again, but just remember,


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[Assistant] There's a full, you know, there's a seal and there are expectations for Carr in this system. And people still remember what a real quarterback looked like with Drew Brees. They understand Carr has a lot of pluses, but he has a lot of minuses. Ball to fix those minuses, he got to see them. And oftentimes the Saints coddle them a little too much for me. All right. So Q, uh, Scoop says Q does the promoting DA.


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[Assistant] Begging Pete to stay, bringing in car, refusing to rebuild, make one without rose colored glass.


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[Assistant] I think you answered your own question, Scoob. What it do, Pimpin'? Yeah, I think, I think you answered your own question there, my brother, well put.


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[Assistant] But you know what, it's just, it's a part of the game. Like, we've patiently, uh, looking at the D.A. thing.


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[Assistant] We are familiar with Dennis, who Dennis Allen is, not just the first couple of years.


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[Assistant] But here's the thing about Dennis Salmon that make him not a likeable guy.


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[Assistant] Is the fact that he's another guy that hasn't taken the accountability, a guy that runs for things that have any energy, no motivation, no vision. And.


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[Assistant] This is the type of stuff that you need and how we know because we know what a real head coach looks like. We see them all the time when they walking out of the Saints building with a win. We know what real coaches look like. So it's not a.


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[Assistant] A knock on these guys, but you can't, you can't look, you can't cover it one weight.


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[Assistant] You just can't create and say, uh, I guess you can, but to me, that's not keeping it real. We won't get nothing fixed if we don't look at it seriously. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Being positive has its, has its places. You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, I'm more like to have a balanced approach because a lot of this I'm positive on and a lot of it I'm not. Because it ain't nothing to be positive about. There's no positive in the fact that


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[Assistant] Guys are not doing a job correctly and they don't even want to do their job. They're not showing the, the, you know, the.


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[Assistant] Actions are the motivations to want to do the job better. So.


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[Assistant] Not so much to overpower, you know, positize you guys. If that's a real word, I guess not. If not, I just made the shit up. So y'all, I'm about to coin positize.


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[Assistant] I don't want to over-positize you guys, and I don't want to over-negatize you guys. I want to kind of ballotize you guys. You see what I'm saying here? You hear what I'm saying here? That's what I'm working on.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I don't want to give you one more than the other. That's, that's what calling it down the line is, like keeping it balanced.


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[Assistant] You know, and I don't like, I don't like the fact that my, my, my head coach is back stabbing. I don't like that.


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[Assistant] Because I do, I do recognize that that limits your success on how far you can get because you're ultimately when you get into the playoffs, you're going to be playing.


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[Assistant] Against teams that love their head coach. They don't have any cracks in their armor.


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[Assistant] In terms of that, that'll play, that go out and play 100% hard for their coach, that believe in their coach, that love their coach.


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[Assistant] And unfortunately, like, we'll play a team that has that and that team will beat us.


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[Assistant] You know, so it's a lot of stuff than just talent and schematics. A lot of it's people. We gotta remember that.


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[Assistant] So I mean, I don't like that, but at the end of the day, you know, me over positizing you guys, that ain't going to fix the problem. Yeah. You know, I'm just, I'm just puffing smoke up your backside and we don't want to do that. I want to make sure I be, I'm fair straight down the line as much as I can be. I'm going to just be honest with you. All right. Thank you school. Appreciate that, man. All right.


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[Assistant] All right. And, ayo, come on, bro. You a troll or something, bro? Stop that, man. We haven't won a Super Bowl 0-9. We haven't been actual contenders since 2018.


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[Assistant] But that all the real saints people tell it, it's all the fault of DA and Carr. It's sad. Whose fault is it then? Is it my fault?


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[Assistant] Is it the people in the chat that you're arguing with? Whose fault is it?


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[Assistant] If it's not De- if it's not Dennis Salace, these people detached from reality, bro. I'm starting to think you a troll, man.


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[Assistant] Somebody that's real intelligent, they wouldn't say something as asinine as what you're saying about whose fault it, whose damn fault is it.


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[Assistant] He's the head coach of the team. He put the team together, bro. He picks the quarterback. The quarterback doesn't make the passes, doesn't do what he's supposed to do. The team loses. Do you not understand how impactful a head coach and a quarterback is to the overall success of a football team? What are we talking about right here?


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[Assistant] What are we talking about? Who are you going to blame for that?


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[Assistant] Who you gonna point the finger at and say we gotta fix it? If it's not the head coach of the team who's the boss of the team on the field and he has all the personnel ability to call and pick who he wants and he picks shitty head coach, he picks city assistants or he picks a quarterback that is not as good, whose fault is it? Is it my damn fault?


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[Assistant] Is it Scoob's fault? Is it Ulysses' fault? Is it Pelicanola's fault? Whose fault is it? Whose fault is it? It's not my damn fault.


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[Assistant] Whose fault is it if it's not the head coach, man? See, that's a part of taking the job. That's why head coaches get fired because they make bad decisions. They make bad bets. It is, it is his, it is his, it's all on him. The credit and the blame falls on the head coach and the people that he put around him.


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[Assistant] If the people around him fail him, it's still his fault because he picked them. Are we, are we in the same reality here? You know?


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[Assistant] Ability to make personnel decisions. He picks his own quarterback.


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[Assistant] His own wide receiver, he drafts the players that he wants. Whose fault is it?


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[Assistant] If the team fails on the field, it is the head coach. He gets both the credit and the blame.


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[Assistant] That's not a new concept, man. That's been going on since the dawn of civilization. Since they had people that's running shit.


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[Assistant] If you have a bad CEO of a team and a team of a company and the company is losing money more than likely.


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[Assistant] If there's an owner and he picked the guy to be a CO and it's not being profitable, that guy's gonna fire that guy and put somebody there that know what they doing. This is, it ain't nothing new. It don't change.


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[Assistant] It doesn't change. It falls on him. People going to point at him because they got good sense.


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[Assistant] Ain't gonna say, well, we the Saints fall in nine and eight. That mean that ain't Dennis Allen fall. He went nine and eight. Not a success fam. You gotta win. You gotta get into playoffs. People be forget. I don't know where people would people be thinking about fam, but hang around, man. Hang close to the coma. We'll get you straight, man. Cause if you don't know who to, who to point the finger at cause you're failing, bro, I don't know what to tell you.


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[Assistant] He better get his hands on that playbook. Yeah, indeed, bro. I agree with you.


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[Assistant] Alright, John says hopefully Kubiak will call the office better than DA did, right?


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[Assistant] Well, Dennis Allen never called the offense, John. I know what you're hitting at though.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, that was Pete Carmichael. He gave all of the offensive duties over to Pete Carmichael to run that SEC, SEC fit, you know, but he would, but at the same time, he's still a head coach.


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[Assistant] He delegated power irresponsibly because at any time he could have stepped in and change things up, make Ronald Curry the play caller for the game.


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[Assistant] Do something different to kind of change things around as opposed to just let them stay the same and then they fail. Then you fire a car, Michael.


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[Assistant] You know, things could have, you could have changed it during the season. He refused to do it because he's not a visionary. That's one of the flaws of Dennis Allen's game. It's not a dig on Dennis Allen, it's the truth.


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[Assistant] You can look at, you can make a list of things that people are good at, like doing this. Really good defensive coordinator, but as a head coach, he lacks all of this stuff. He's a poor communicator.


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[Assistant] He's a poor motivator. He's a poor overseer. Like he's supposed to operate as an overseer for the team. He still behaves in many respects as a defensive coordinator pretending to be a head coach.


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[Assistant] You know, when you see people struggling, you supposed to go over there and question them. Make sure things are right.


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[Assistant] Do this, do that. Because the team, basically, you know, if they fail, it's still on you. Now you scapegoated Pete.


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[Assistant] This year, but there is no scapegoating you next year. You, you, the eyes are focused on you big time for the third year.


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[Assistant] And remember the goal is for the Saints older team is to be a playoff team every.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that's not me saying it, but that's what they said at when, when they were doing this whole experimentation. They said it, we agreed with it and we're holding them to it.


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[Assistant] So don't miss me with the fact that we have this and then and this that, man, I don't care about any of that.


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[Assistant] All I care about is what's happening now and how we get it turned around.


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[Assistant] Finding out who's a part of it or why it stinks is not going to get you, you won't get to the bottom of it.


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[Assistant] You won't get to the bottom unless you find out what's wrong with this team and then making the necessary changes moving forward. And not only that.


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[Assistant] But if you're a head coach and you realize that you got flaws in your game, you're supposed to do stuff in the off season to correct it. Go to motivational school. Talk, you know, learn how to be a better communicator. Stop backstabbing people. Stop being a little weasel. You know, learn to make guys more accountable.


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[Assistant] Learn, you know, you can learn these things. Stop, you know what I'm saying? Just don't go into next year the same dude you was, but you just got different coaches and different players, but you ain't learned nothing as a head coach.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying. Improve yourself as a person. Pick up new skills. It's called re-skilling yourself.


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[Assistant] People do it all the time in the, in the, in the market, in the work market. People pick up new skills, they get training and they use it, they go back in it to increase their value in the work market. It's the same thing. You know, you're supposed to, if you're a head coach and you know you're lacking stuff, you're supposed to be doing that every year, picking up better things to make you better, right?


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[Assistant] I get you, John. Thank you for that. Appreciate you. D Spoox, I'm not a fan of DC, but Derek Carr had a passer rating of 118.9 with 11, 17, 14 touchdowns, 275 games in the last five games. Good stuff. But it didn't earn you nothing. Like that's just that packing. You still finished nine and eight.


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[Assistant] And like I said, it's a, it was supposed to be a QB friendly system. It just, he just, it took way too long to pick it up. The statistics at the last month of the season were promising.


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[Assistant] But it took him way too long to pick this stuff up, man.


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[Assistant] Way too long. It took the last month before the season and the Saints had lost all those games and basically put themselves out of


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[Assistant] Out of thing. Here we go, Mickey. What's up, Mickey? What are you guys talking about here? Mike T used to be bash. Used to bash Breeze on social media. That's true, Mickey. You're right. Mike T decided not to have surgery. No, no, no, no. Hold on, Mickey. Hold on, I'm gonna let you read your comment.


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[Assistant] When doctors told him to, and it cast, and it cast him to see cost him. Mickey, you gotta, you gotta spell check Mickey.


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[Assistant] Uh, I know you don't know that, but you probably, uh, you probably sending this out on a, uh, uh, a Blueberry. Alright, so you cast two seasons. It cost them two seasons on the sideline of rehab. Somebody made the chat says, can you read like DC? I can't help it, man. People sending me some crazy shit.


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[Assistant] I'm fumbling over this shit. I'm saying, man, what, what? What are you guys putting in this chat, man? What y'all doing to me? Alright, he says cast two seasons on, cost him two seasons on the sideline of rehab. When does Mike T become accountable? You're absolutely right, Mickey. Mike T, that Mike shouldn't be on social media. I've said that.


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[Assistant] Mike shouldn't be on social media blabbing his guts out about how he doesn't like Carl, or saying this, that, and the third. He shouldn't be doing that.


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[Assistant] Are you, and I'm asking Mickey, Mickey, are you providing an atmosphere in which Mike Thomas or any player in particular that is frustrated with what's going on with the Saints come to you and hash out their differences? Are you a fair evaluator? Are you doing your best to mediate a lot of the hate, to mediate the hate out of your organization?


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[Assistant] Are you doing that? Are you a shameless promoter of the head coach you picked because you don't want to be looked up as being a flawed general manager because you chose wrongly?


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[Assistant] So, I mean, this question, does it do you? Cause you're the general manager, Mickey.


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[Assistant] You have to be able to provide the atmosphere and environment for players who are disgruntled to come to them, just like most people do to have a company.


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[Assistant] That if you have, or you do, I don't know, I know you don't have an HR department, but you're the general manager of the old personnel, so that guy would be you. So do you have a way where guys can come into your office and kinda hash out their


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[Assistant] You know, the scramble commentaries about players or schemes or whatever in the building. You know, do you allow, do you do that?


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[Assistant] But he's accountable, but also Mickey Loomis is supposed to be accountable as well. You can't run and hide, Mickey.


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[Assistant] And then come out and do press conferences at the end of the year talking about, well, listen, you guys, we finished nine and eight and you guys gone, I'm going to make you guys uncomfortable. No, I'm making you can't do that. Can't do that. Okay. All right. Shout out to Mickey, man.


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[Assistant] All right, Arva says, DJ, uh, the smooth car put up stats and garbage time in the Rams game. So he really should have 900 yards, 12 touchdowns, two interceptions last five games, but he played well down the stretch. He did. He finally picked it up. All right, Mickey says, uh, you have recipes and I have invoices.


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[Assistant] You got some invoices? Okay, you guys, no, you got that backwards, Mickey. I have them, I have the invoices. You got the recipes. I heard you, you, you, you whipped together some mean clam chowder, Mickey. I heard that, brother. Is that true, Mickey? I've been hearing about that mean clam chowder you've been putting together over that.


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[Assistant] With Mike Thomas, you know, he played well when he had an opportunity to, then he got hurt and he never came back. And I think.


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[Assistant] The ship has kind of sailed over the last several years. Now, you know, Mickey just made mention of the fact that he elected not to have surgery. That's not how it really worked out. And the truth kind of came out on that whole situation and right before he started, cause remember, he could have tweeted the full story. Mike Thomas, all he tweeted during that time was, that's not true.


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[Assistant] Such as such and the saints are lying about my surgery or something like that. Y'all put one in the chat if y'all remember that because I covered that.


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[Assistant] At the time and right before he could have aired the bad, all of the dirty laundry out. He didn't. The saints came out and they, they, him and Mike and Sean and all of them made it work. Y'all remember that? Put one in the chat. Cause he could have aired out their dirty laundry.


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[Assistant] Then, but he said the saints are trying to damage my reputation. He said something like that. Y'all remember?


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[Assistant] Who wanted to chat if y'all remember that, but he didn't go in on him. He could've.


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[Assistant] He didn't go in on him then. But you're right though, Mickey. He did tweet about Drew Brees and stuff like that. He does, he does. But like I said, there should be a policy somewhere in the building.


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[Assistant] Or if there's a place, if you got a disgruntled player, he's supposed to be able to go to upper management. If he can't go to Dennis Allen or his quarterback, go to upper management. And there's no human resources department or personnel department that usually falls under Mickey Lomas. He's the head of the personnel department. He's the general manager.


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[Assistant] You know, he's supposed to be doing some managing of all the personnel in the building. So his door should be open.


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[Assistant] For disgruntled people to come in and air out their grievances, uh, and Mickey has the power to take the head coach and the wide receiver, whoever it is, and put them in the same room and have them to come together for the betterment of the team. That's what a real good general manager does, not keep his door closed. And like Kat Terrell was asking them in the press conference, she said,


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[Assistant] Mickey, you have limited contact with players during the season. What made, you know, what, you know, what did you say to him in the speech? Well, I was for their ears, you know, so that's what he was responding to, but she hit it on him. He don't talk to anybody during the season and that's a shame.


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[Assistant] How you the general manager of the team and you're not doing your damn job is all I'm asking.


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[Assistant] But in terms of the Mike Tee situation with A.T. Perry, A.T. Perry showed a lot and the future is bright for A.T. Perry. He did a lot of positive things, but I don't know if I'm ready to say.


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[Assistant] A.T. Perry should be the starting wide receiver or in that role next year. I think he, uh, he showed us a lot of things and he was positive. At the end of the day, do you really think that if the Saints have an opportunity to take a wide receiver in the second round, if one falls to him like a Kian Coleman or somebody else like that, or what's the brother from, um, uh, with Xavier Worthy or, uh,


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[Assistant] What's the brother from, uh, South Carolina that's really good.


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[Assistant] Who's a really big physical wide receiver that if he fell to the Saints in the second round, wouldn't be a bad selection. You know, that guy.


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[Assistant] Do you really say now we're going to look past him and we're going to keep A.T. Perry? I think A.T. Perry eventually will be.


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[Assistant] More of a plus in the wide receiver room, but I don't know if to say that he's ready to step in where.


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[Assistant] Mike Thomas was, you get what I'm saying? I don't know if I'm gonna say that. I do, I'll do like A.T. Perry a lot though. But thank you for that.


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[Assistant] All right. He said Jack says it's his fault. Okay, yeaah, yeaah. Yes, pathetic, despicable. Listen, I'm not trying to go A.O., you know, I'm not trying to disparage you A.O., I'm just saying that.


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[Assistant] That's the, that's the same anywhere. Like if you are a owner of a company.


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[Assistant] And you pick all the personnel and then your company starts failing. You don't point to.


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[Assistant] The guy in the mail room and says, your fault that the company's failed.


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[Assistant] Been given influence, power or the ability to direct, you know, uh, assets a certain kind of way. And if the person who has the power, the head coach, it doesn't do that correctly.


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[Assistant] And the team fails, you can't go then point at the offensive coordinator and say, we failed because of you. Now, you know, offense looks stunk, it looks stank, but really still the head coach who was supposed to see that make a change during the season when it counted.


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[Assistant] And change some things around. He didn't do anything. He just let it stay the same. That is poor management.


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[Assistant] Very poor management. And when he did that, that showed me so much about him being the head coach that he's a poor one. That's why the team plays. It's a, it's a up and down team.


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[Assistant] You see them play one game, they'll do this and then the next game, they're not ready to play.


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[Assistant] They, they might win a game or two to come back and get a blowout and they just, it's just up and down all the time.


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[Assistant] During the year and that's because of the coach and his preparatory style. His preparation. His discipline. Because most coaches that are successful are discipline style coaches. They believe in keeping the trains running on time so to speak. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] And if this guy who's very loose discipline wise, he's very loose on his, uh, attention to detail. I've noticed this. Everybody noticed this.


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[Assistant] And then you got Mickey saying, well, he's a great coach. What part of Dennis Allen is great as a head coach? You can't answer that without embellishing or making up some fabricated crap. Nothing is great about Dennis Allen.


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[Assistant] Even the defense that he champions gave up 18 points to the Green Bay Packers in 11 minutes. How did that happen?


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[Assistant] It gave up, it let them score 18 points in 11 minutes to beat the Saints. And ultimately that was the game that did it to us. If we beat Green Bay, we in there. You were supposed to win. That was the worst, worst loss.


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[Assistant] That of the season, you were up 17-0 and it just went, collapsed in 11 minutes, not even the full quarter, 11 minutes. Defense allowed that to happen. So like I said, uhm, it's nothing great about Dennis Allen.


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[Assistant] To me, right now, and I'm not being mad. I mean to them. I'm just keeping it real.


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[Assistant] I would call him great if I seen some great stuff. He's a good defensive coordinator, but he is lacking in terms of being a head coach. He doesn't handle his personnel right. Not as disciplined as you like.


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[Assistant] As way not disciplined enough, he doesn't pay attention to details like you would like him to do.


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[Assistant] Uh, he's not a great motivator. He's not, it's just a lot of stuff that you would see that you want from the coach. And I constantly keep saying the same thing over and over and over again.


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[Assistant] I just don't see greatness in terms of him being a head coach. He might be a great father. He might be, I don't know, might be a great person.


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[Assistant] Outside the door, I doubted him backstabbing his own people like that. I doubt anybody won't hang around with somebody you can't even trust like that. You know, but in the end, you know, I wouldn't be hanging with him.


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[Assistant] All right, yeah. Arvin, shout out to you fam, says that we went nine and eight with the easiest schedule. Indeed, add that to it. It's a lot to it, fam.


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[Assistant] And Tom Brady wasn't there. And yeaah, he said they're acting like super bowl contenders. That's just smoke and mirrors. And some people fall for it, but see, when you're a veteran.


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[Assistant] Of watching Saints football, you've seen not just the wins because there are a lot of people that were born, uh, into the Saints, uh, culture, the winning culture that never experienced the losing.


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[Assistant] And I've experienced both. I've seen the Saints lose badly before we started winning. We've had both sides. And listen, it's a big difference. And for those who were born during the glory time,


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[Assistant] Uh, they don't understand before. Talk to somebody and listen to people before. Get, take some of their insight into your mind state so that you be fully.


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[Assistant] And you know, in Gloucester and everything that's going on with saints culture, not just the winning because it was a lot of losing years that led to that. That'll give you insight on what to look at for the saints going forward. Like it wouldn't, you wouldn't buy into it. Like you won't get sucked into the fake, um, success stuff that they attempt to do, uh, promote.


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[Assistant] Once they get to a point, they're going to start the promotion to get you all riled up to go at it again. So, you know, just keep that in mind, but thank you for that. Arvin, well said.


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[Assistant] I don't see the Saints drafting the quarterback, bro, cause I, I, I, once again, the Saints, you know, we're talking about Dennis Allen and


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[Assistant] Just pretty much Dennis Allen, cause he makes the, the determination on who he wants on his team and Mickey Lomas just going to do what he wants. So really is Dennis Allen. And I don't see Dennis Allen over the first couple of rounds, the first couple of selections taking a quarterback simply because he doesn't want Derek Carr to be uncomfortable. Like the whole Jake Hayner pickup was Derek Carr influenced because his mentality was,


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[Assistant] He's gonna take the job and he's not gonna, he didn't, he ain't gonna, he doesn't want.


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[Assistant] Another veteran on his back that might outperform him or force him to be better. So the saints took Jake Hayner from Fresno State, same place that car came from.


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[Assistant] And by the time Hayner gets ready and according to Carr, this was Carr said when they were asking about their Jake Hayner pick.


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[Assistant] He told him that he was involved in the pick. He was pushing for them to go and get your king.


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[Assistant] And by the time Jake Hanna is ready to play, Carr's contract will be over, which means that.


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[Assistant] If that's the case, he won't be having any Syrian competition for him while he's the starter of the team. You see what I'm saying? You just got to read in between the words.


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[Assistant] But that's what I picked up. Why else would he be involved in who the Saints pick as a quarterback? Because he can graft it in a situation where


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[Assistant] Nobody's on his back forcing him to do something or he's competing for the job. Even though he's a starting quarterback, but if he fails and he's struggling, people are going to call for the backup. So if you got a veteran there that comes in and they give, they get, they put that good work in, that puts, that puts pressure on Carr. So if you take a quarterback in the first or two rounds,


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[Assistant] Uh, that's the same thing. A lot of people are going to be calling to see what that young guy could do. And the Saints are not going to do that, uh, to Derek Card. They're going to make sure he's nice and comfortable. Hell, they don't even much want to criticize him. They're not going to take the quarterback.


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[Assistant] To bring competition to it. And that's unfortunate. That's what Jake Haner's here for. But me personally.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I did a mock draft on the, uh, on our Patreon and our YouTube membership family. We did a, I did a mock draft the first one of the season and I did a mock and in the mock it was, I made some good selections there.


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[Assistant] And I did take a quarterback. I took Jordan, uh, Travis Jordan out of, uh, uh, uh, what was the, where is he from? What's Travis? From Florida State.


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[Assistant] He would be one of the top five quarterbacks in this draft and they got a really, they got a bunch of good ones that's there. Jayden Daniels, uh,


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[Assistant] Williams from USC's there. You got May from North Carolina. Michael Pinnix Jr. is a lot better than


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[Assistant] In my opinion, I like him more than me. I like-


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[Assistant] I like him. You got Bo Nix in there, but when you talk about a guy like Travis Jordan,


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[Assistant] What he did with Florida State, not just this year, but last year, he has like three years of a lot of productivity from him, a really good young quarterback with a lot of upside.


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[Assistant] And he will be hurt. I mean, he'll be, he's rehabbing cause he got hurt during the season.


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[Assistant] Which means his draft stock is going to fall. So if you're able to get him in the third round or the fourth round, you take him.


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[Assistant] Cause he's a first round talent quarterback. If he falls to the third or third round or the fourth round, you take him and then you put him, you stash him on your team and then he'll, he's a future pick. That guy will outperform Jake Haynes.


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[Assistant] So that's what I would do and you would get a star, a potential starter there with Travis Jordan.


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[Assistant] He was phenomenal, man. Unfortunately, he got hurt. So that'd probably be who I would look at doing. I like that kid, man.


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[Assistant] I don't think we, you know, we don't get any, uh, Bo Nix is cool too. He got a lot of college experience. He's a, he's a player. Oh yeah, my guy from Tulane.


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[Assistant] Michael Pratt is a really solid quarterback, man.


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[Assistant] He's another really good quarterback that you can look at from Tulane.


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[Assistant] He broke all of their records there. The dude is solid. He has the accuracy, the height, and he's really has a high football IQ. He might rise up in the, in the, uh.


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[Assistant] And the rankings as far as the quarterback's concerned, but he's another solid quarterback that if I was the Saints, I'll be looking at.


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[Assistant] You know, but yeah, Jordan Travis is a guy that I, I mean, excuse me, I keep saying it backwards. Travis Jordan.


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[Assistant] Would be the guy that I would look at like in the third rounds or four and sometime he might be there cause he, you know, he's still rehab. All right. So anyway.


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[Assistant] I.T. Greatness says, do you think we can find some value in Penning if he's moved to guard our...


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[Assistant] Is he a bus? Also, P. Turner, do you think he's salvageable or a bus? Uh, Trevor Penning, I don't know about guard for Trevor, for Trevor Penning.


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[Assistant] I think the Saints, before they, listen, I get what you're saying, like having them play multiple positions, I'm not mad at that. But before we decide to go guard, I would like to see Trevor Penning


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[Assistant] As a right tackle first before we decide to go guard with him.


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[Assistant] I know they tried them at the left tackle position family. Put one in the chat if you remember me saying.


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[Assistant] It was a disaster. I kept telling them that that's the wrong thing to do. Don't do that. Don't do that because


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[Assistant] It's only a certain, a certain type of players that you can do that with. And Penning wasn't that kind of guy. Like you, you wouldn't know who you, like you got a guy coming out like a, you know, Jonathan Ogden type coming out of college or, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, pay Orlando pace or guys like that you, you can see that they're that type of player because the blindside position is such an important.


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[Assistant] Position because you're going to see the best pass rushers. You're going to see the best that.


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[Assistant] So you got to have your stuff together if you're going to play that position. That's a big money position with a lot of, of, uh, critique, with a lot of, uh,


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[Assistant] A lot of stuff on it, period. A lot of power to that position.


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[Assistant] And you gotta be about the business. If you're going to play left tackle in the NFL, you're going to see the best pass rushers week after week. And that was not penny.


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[Assistant] So right tackle, I'd love to see him tried at right tackle, which is what I was saying.


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[Assistant] Let's see him at right tackle. The Sinks did not want to move Ryan Ramchak. Don't forget.


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[Assistant] That Ryan Ramczyk might not play again for the rest of his career. He has to get some of his knee looked at, is really in bad shape.


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[Assistant] Uh, he should have got the surgery a year ago. He elected to get pain shots and it got bad, so worse, so bad that the pain shots didn't work anymore. So he got a bad knee and Ryan Ramchak's career is in doubt. So the right tackle position.


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[Assistant] Let's try right tackle for pinning before we ultimately decide to try to see.


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[Assistant] We move them to guard because they're going to try to justify the pick, right? They're not going to just bust them. They're going to try to try them at the right tackle position, see if that works.


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[Assistant] If you don't, they'll try them at the guard position. But really, I think let's try them at right tackle. I think right tackle is the best spot for Trevor Penney.


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[Assistant] Also on Pink Turner, do you see him as salvageable or a bus? I don't, I'm not going to use bus right now for


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[Assistant] Paint turnicles. When paint turn is healthy, he does go out there.


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[Assistant] And he does perform, like what was the, the last game of the season? He got to fumble or whatever it was. I forgot he got the turnover.


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[Assistant] But, you know, like I'm saying fam, we look at, uh, like Paint Turner, I still think there's something there. But we getting close though, because remember,


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[Assistant] We put a, they put a lot of bad energy on Peyton Turner when they drafted him. They seen him as a Davenport type player. And I was like, oh, I think we might be, you might be in trouble here.


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[Assistant] So I mean, yeah, I'm hoping I just want to keep, get that mystique of Davenport all from that rotten energy of Davenport.


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[Assistant] The thing is, him staying on the field is, uh, he has to get over, he has to get over the injuries and that right there, that's hard to say. So I'm not going to throw the bust on him yet, but it's getting close though. It's definitely, what's up Chris? How you doing, sir? Appreciate you being here.


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[Assistant] Much love. Brother Charles says, I like pinning that guard, but a lot of people don't think he just need, he just need to settle on and play with less aggression. I like him at right tackle, bro. I think that's what I like about him, man.


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[Assistant] Uh, what's up DJ Smooth? Uh, how you doing, sir? Good to see you. And to do, uh, in a, in a chat, man. Much love. Appreciate you popping in. Brother Quavadia says, Carthorne, Olavi in the middle of the drama.


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[Assistant] I was going to have him beefing with him before the next season starts. Really interesting. Yeaah. Alright, Arva says Mickey Lumis don't even disrespect who that nation ain't.


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[Assistant] Hey bro, it's, I showed you man, listen, all I do is just show, I put it in front of people, that's all I do. Now I do have strong commentary bro, and that ties, I'm gonna tell a lot of family members that just started listening to the coma, because we got people that have been listening to the show for years, we've been on here for a while. And they're used to my strong commentary, but there are people that listen to other shows and you know, I don't know if it's somewhere in the middle, but


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[Assistant] I have some strong takes, I really do. And that's because


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[Assistant] I'm not just some guy covering the team, right? I'm actually, I'm a diehard guy for 30 plus years. So I've seen a lot, right? And you know, as a child, this was my club.


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[Assistant] So it hits differently when I'm talking about the Saints versus say a Cowboys or the Buccaneers or some team I don't have any emotional connection to. A positive one anyway, but.


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[Assistant] It hits differently. So when I see a lot of this and then the thing is.


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[Assistant] I know these people. I like, I, I, I know how a Mickey Loma acts. I know what they thinking. It's, they're very easy to read.


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[Assistant] We cover them all the time. We know that we know their emotions and we know what they're going to do.


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[Assistant] They're very simple people to read. They're not complicated at all. And I cover that. I talk a lot about that on the channel. Also, we, we


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[Assistant] Also, we keep it real here. You know, I'm not gonna sit here and over- how I go family? Over-positize you guys? I'm not gonna over-positive- over-positize you guys. Because that's a- that's a-


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[Assistant] That's not, that's not balance. You can't have one more than other. You know, you gotta try to make sure. Now sometimes I'll be going off, I ain't gonna lie, cause I'll be upset.


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[Assistant] You know, about what I see, just like you guys do. You know, I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, you know, tell you nothing no different about it.


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[Assistant] But, you know, I gotta give you both sides in the best way I can down the line.


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[Assistant] And keep it real. So that's what I do. There you go. Thank you for that, bro. Yeah. Look at that. Thank you, red swamp. Shout out to you. I was thinking I was, uh, that was who I was thinking about in terms of the guy from South Carolina.


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[Assistant] Who I would take if he was there. And I know we got A.T. Perry, but that LaGette guy is awesome, man.


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[Assistant] One thing is the main media people for the Saints did, they have a meeting with Mickey just like Mickey had with the players and there was a lot of season.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, the thing is, like, you've seen what was going to go on. Like, we knew that Mickey was gonna hold on to Dennis Alley. You knew that. There was no real pressure on him to win. Mickey was gonna keep him anyway. But the reality is, are they ready?


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[Assistant] And you're right on the media. Media meets with them all the time. They tell them what to report on, what not to report on. They do that. Don't let them tell you that they don't. Like it's stuff that you can, that...


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[Assistant] That is fair that you can cover this, but we don't want you to cover that. And if you cover it, they're, they, they're going to be.


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[Assistant] Replications for you covering it. They'll take your media pass, restrict your access to the team, to the players. You see?


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[Assistant] So they have that dynamic. Even though you have the press credentials, they can elect not to grant you press credentials. You could be a member of the press. I know all about it. But see, to me, like, it's a way...


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[Assistant] Where they're controlled to a point and you get the news, but they play the game. That's just how it go. You know, they played the game.


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[Assistant] You know, and somewhere in between the middle is you. Like it's this team over here, the, the, the reporters over here, and you're in the, you're, you're, you're the person there that's hearing from the team. It's set up a certain type of weight. But at some point,


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[Assistant] Does it really make a difference? We got a ton of reports, we get the reports anyway. Does it make a difference if I go be like, you go get the such-and-such? Yeaah, I get it.


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[Assistant] And I'll probably send somebody else down there, you know what I'm saying? I could do that. I got all the information. I'ma do it anyway. But in the end...


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[Assistant] You know, we don't want to lose the realness. We don't want to lose the realness because of the connection to the team. You get what I'm saying? That I can't come at them hard like I come at them now because I got a press badge that they get mad and say, Q, I heard what you said, man. We're not letting you in here today.


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[Assistant] I said, well, you gotta lighten up your commentary, all that kind of stuff, bro. Do we really need to do that, man? I don't, I like telling it like it is.


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[Assistant] Whether they like it or not. I think we've been, we appeasing too many people anyway.


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[Assistant] Alright DJs, I think Pete was trying to separate himself from Peyton's playbook and it backfired. Pete finally went back to Peyton.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, it was one of those things. Bellaladell says, Carr is trying to buddy up for exposing him so when he leaves he's going to talk about us like a dog. Well, you know, it is what it is. You know, in that regard.


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[Assistant] All right, Demi says, I was one of the family members born into, indeed, Demi, I know you one. We got a lot of them here. Oh yeah, look, Jack said the dick of years. Oh yeah.


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[Assistant] So, I mean, we, I can't over-positize you guys on some of that stuff, man, because, you know, I try to keep it as balanced as I possibly can and keep it real. T. Greatness says, do you think Pete is ready to take Demario's, uh, Demario's spot? Uhm.


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[Assistant] He was healthy last year for the first time, so that's a positive. I had the question, can he do that? Oh man, I like Pete, I like Pete Werner a lot. Oh man, is he ready to take Demario Davis spot? Man, I'm gonna have to say, I'm gonna have to say no on that right now. I mean, Demario,


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[Assistant] He means so much to the Saints defense, man. The Mario Davis is older.


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[Assistant] But he don't, he doesn't play like that. It's like he's still like five years younger than what he actually is. He's playing on that level. His excitement, his, his intelligence, his, his longevity, you know.


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[Assistant] One year of healthy Pete, Pete Werner. I like Pete Werner a lot, man, but that's a tough...


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[Assistant] Thing to talk about to Mario Davis, is he ready to replace him?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna have to say no on that, but I like him though. He's headed in a direction, but that's a tough order to kind of look at, man.


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[Assistant] I don't know, bro. I would have to say no right now. I'm going over it in my head. I, uh, bullet family losses queue for the cow was trying to red light, trying to get it typed up quickly and okay. It's no problem, bro. Shout out to you, bro. Yeah, we had some bro. We got in today, man. I was like, man.


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[Assistant] I was like, oh man, kind of retype this one and send it back at me. Alright, Michael, what's up? Mike says, uh, do we trade Latimore? I don't want to trade Latimore, bro. I believe that.


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[Assistant] That's just me. The Saints raised Lattimore up, entered the ranks. He became a really good cornerback, a shut down guy. He's been dealing with some injuries over the last couple of years or so. He had a real frequent.


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[Assistant] Uh, and that he got hurt this past year real frequent. The guy rolled, you know, he was running. I remember y'all remembered.


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[Assistant] Rolled up and he was moving and the guy just caught him and caught his, what was it, left foot?


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[Assistant] And rolled up on him a little bit and he just hopped off or it was just like a freak thing. It wasn't like he just, he just getting hurt. That last injury was kind of a freaky kind of injury he got rolled up on.


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[Assistant] You know, in the open field, I think it was, he got rolled up on, just a freaky thing. So, I mean, I wouldn't want to trade Latimore here.


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[Assistant] Then restructuring that deal and it's seen, it does appear like a lot of rumors are circulating that they want to move. They're thinking about trading Lattimore.


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[Assistant] Uh, and it's difference in opinions and what's going on. It's a lot of stuff that's gonna come out eventually. I would not want to trade.


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[Assistant] Lattimore, not granted. Paulson, the Deebo looked really well coming out of that sophomore year. Alanty Taylor in his sophomore year kind of struggled a bit, but I expect Alanty Taylor to be special. Uhm, Isaac Yudham had a


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[Assistant] Humongous improvement as a defensive back from what he was the year prior. He started learning to turn around with his head around and he became a better tackler. He had a big jump.


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[Assistant] In progression form, but that still doesn't make me, with all that positive stuff, doesn't make me feel.


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[Assistant] Uh, extra special to say, okay, I'm cool with those guys where we could trade Aladdin more. I would rather still keep Marshawn here. You know, with this great secondary that we have.


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[Assistant] The only person I would get rid of in the secondary is Marcus May because I think Jordan Howden is the future at that position. So I would consider getting, getting rid of Marcus May because he's always hurt.


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[Assistant] You know, he's not, you know, and we got Jordan out and now we can save some money by getting rid of Jordan, I mean Marcus May.


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[Assistant] But outside of trading Lattimore, I'm not for that. I don't think we should trade Lattimore. I think we should keep him.


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[Assistant] And keep that secondary together. It's a very special unit.


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[Assistant] Uh, ultimately looking at trying to trade him, man. It's unfortunate. Uh, hope it's not true, but it's just rumors right now. T-Greatest, do you think the new OC gets Jamal Williams involved next year? Hope so, bro. He was not used correctly and it showed. If Kendrick Miller stay healthy, how long do we keep AK 41 moving forward? It's going to come down to.


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[Assistant] What is it? Not this year? I think it's the next year I don't have my numbers in front of me.


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[Assistant] But it's getting close in that contract, man, cause Kamara's getting a little older and the Saints going to have to look at, you know.


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[Assistant] You know how that running back position in the, in the NFL is looked upon to a degree. I think Elvin Kamara is kind of, you're kind of immune to that cheap running back, you know, mindset simply because


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[Assistant] He's a complete total back. They don't view him the same. You know, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Like you can look at, uh, Kamara and a Christian McCaffrey. Those guys can always make money because they're so versatile.


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[Assistant] They can do it all. They can act as wide receivers, running backs, can move them all around.


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[Assistant] So a guy like McCaffrey and Kamara will always have belt because that's what they, you know, they do so many great things. So.


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[Assistant] Uh, the sing's gonna, yeaah, and coming up in a couple years, I think it's the year after this year.


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[Assistant] Cause I know that's, they do have opt out on his, on his agreements. But, um, yeah, it's getting, hold on. Let me see if I can go over the cap. Yeah, they, let me see. Looking at his numbers now.


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[Assistant] Let me put it on screen for you guys so you can see here it goes. Y'all see that? Elvin Kamara. This is over the cap by the way. Uhm, and you can see right here, 24.


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[Assistant] When he turns 30, he'll be making $22.4 million. Of course, saints are going to have to do something about that, right?


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[Assistant] You know, then the cap number is extremely large and 25, the cap hit the cap number is over $29 million and then he has several voided years where they kind of disperse out his, uh,


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[Assistant] Signing bonus. And all that kind of stuff. You can see they prorated the signing bonus over those years. Here. And uh,


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[Assistant] They got a big, yeah, so I mean, I think the Saints are, they were smartly looking at that in terms of, uh, getting Elvin Kamara, um,


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[Assistant] Getting him, uh, looking at his replacement or somebody perhaps, uh, down the line. I mean, yeaah. 20, he'll be, what, 29, 30, in two years from now, he'll be, Elvin will be, uh, in that 25 year, he'll be 30 years old.


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[Assistant] The contract has it 22.4 million. They're definitely going to do something about that.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, Kendra is definitely a part of the future of the team. He looked really well in the last game of the season too. Basically the only really positive thing running wise we had got going.


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[Assistant] And that's because his ability to kind of get skinny in between the holes and make guys miss on that first, uh, movement, he played really well in that last game. So yeah, that's something.


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[Assistant] I would hope you want to get Jamal Williams going bro. Definitely that. Alright, thank you for the, for the, for the comment bro.


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[Assistant] In the film room. Yeah, we, that's the thing about Carr. Carr has the, he has the arm.


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[Assistant] Carl said that they talked before, he said that in other interviews, that he talks to Michael Thomas, that he talks to, he tweets and, uh,


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[Assistant] What's it called? E-voices. E-voices are not voices, uh, it ain't what you call it, man.


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[Assistant] But he, but he speaks with Elvin, I mean with Michael Thomas. He talks to him on the phone. He FaceThomas, FaceThoms with him.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he said that in multiple interviews before. So they are communicating. At some point, Mike cut the communication off.


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[Assistant] He might felt like he wasn't getting the answer, he didn't like what was going on.


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[Assistant] Over the team, let's not lose the fact on how he transferred the message, like he did it on social media is wrong. Does not kick out his points of what he's saying. That car is hanging him out the drive.


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[Assistant] Drawing bad balls, or badly timed balls, or badly misplaced balls.


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[Assistant] That's not lose the fact that he gave it through social media. It's still the truth. On film, you can see him doing that. Not just to Mike, but he did that to Jawan Johnson a bunch of times. You know, you go back and watch the film. So it's not, it's not an indictment.


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[Assistant] Against, I mean, it's not an insult against Card that he's doing something on the field and you say he's doing it, it's the truth.


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[Assistant] Baccar really needs to, this offseason really needs to work on his ball placement. He really needs to work on his accuracy, doing accuracy drills. He really does. And he really needs to start doing more work in.


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[Assistant] Just going over, looking over the full field before he decides to go with the ball because he checked it down a lot this last year.


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[Assistant] No, some plays call for that. A lot of times it wasn't called for that. When you check in it down and you go back and look at the film, almost 80 to 90% of the time, there's somebody either running free or have single coverage with no safety support. It never fails. When you put the all 22 on.


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[Assistant] And you see him check it down and you go and look at the receivers. You'll see that a guy is Chris Olavi is running down the field on the right side and there's no safety support and all you have to do is throw the ball in his direction.


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[Assistant] And you're going to see something promising happen. He started doing that on the back end where he just gave them an opportunity to go and get the ball and they went and got it. Rashid Shaheed, Chris Olavi, times early in the year, he didn't do that. As you can see, he was kind of uncomfortable with offensive line. The offensive line was bad. It also contributed to Carr's poor


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[Assistant] Play as a quarterback because he wasn't comfortable with that line. You could tell that.


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[Assistant] He wasn't really comfortable back there. So a lot of it's not totally on car, but at the same time as a quarterback, he sees guys blitzing. It's up to him to be able to see the blitzes coming, be able to call the protections.


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[Assistant] Audible a lot of plays and take advantage of the aggressiveness of the defense.


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[Assistant] There was taping, like I said, all the things I'm saying is stuff that we studied on film sections this year when we talked about Carr on the field. Anything else, like talking about his style of play without backing about film, a lot of people...


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[Assistant] Shazam says, that's Trey Latt, Trey Lattimore for what? What are we gonna, but that's what I'm saying. There's a rumor, uhm, that's circulating around that Lattimore like, and listen.


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[Assistant] Where that smoke, there's fire. Kat Terrell, shout out to Kat Terrell, asked Mickey Loomis about Marshawn Lattimore's contract destruction. He didn't want to talk about it. He didn't want to talk about it.


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[Assistant] Which if it was nothing, Derrick Mick was like, oh, we just, man, you know, we do that every year, you know, you know. No. It was something to it.


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[Assistant] And like I said there, we know it was a split in the team down the line, right? There were guys that were beefing with Dennis Allen, didn't like Dennis Allen, right? Well.


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[Assistant] Could Lattimore be one of those dudes and he don't believe in them anymore and wants to get traded? Is this something being pushed by Lattie Daddy to get out of here? I don't know. But all I'm saying is there are players on this team that don't like Dennis Allen and there are some that do. Could Lattie be one of those? We don't know. We won't know.


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[Assistant] Scoob say, if AK stay healthy this year, Kubiak is going to make you say, yeah, if you got, if you're, if you're Clint Kubiak with your father's offensive style, man, you could do a lot with Jamal Williams, with Elvin Kamara, with Kendre Miller.


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[Assistant] I mean Clint Kubiak's coming into this thing, licking his chops.


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[Assistant] I mean, you have basically can install a wide open offense that takes advantage of all of these guys.


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[Assistant] Abilities. Jawan Johnson is there. You'll still have Taysom Hill.


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[Assistant] And the Saints just have to do a better job of building up their offensive line.


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[Assistant] It's really the thing he'd be tasked with. That's the biggest sticking point right there. Who's going to be the next offensive line coach?


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[Assistant] You know, are they gonna promote from within the building? I think a lot of these roles.


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[Assistant] Are being left open for the offensive coordinator to film. You see what I'm saying? He wants to pick those guys.


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[Assistant] As a Saint, he said he would. They gave him the extension. Cam doesn't want to play for anybody. He's a Saint for lifer. The Saints gave him an extension on his deal, and that's exactly what he's going to do. He's going to retire. Not this upcoming year, mind you.


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[Assistant] Used properly McCaffrey had a way better system indeed.


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[Assistant] I agree a thousand percent with your commentary sir. I definitely do that.


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[Assistant] Jerry says, what's up Jerry? Says we should have kept Anzaloni. Bro, listen. Anzal- Bro, eh, man, listen.


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[Assistant] Like it's, it's almost similar to like the Trey Hendrickson thing. Like people look back at and do this revisionist history thing with Trey Hendrickson.


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[Assistant] First and foremost, Trey Hendrickson, in the four years he was with the Saints, Trey Hendrickson never stayed healthy. For three years, he was hurt every year. He got hurt every year. The last year was a contract year in which he balled out opposite of Cam George.


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[Assistant] A lot of people, when you have a contract year and a player that didn't have high production, in the first three years, you kind of give that fourth year that contract year and say, well, that's just a contract year. He stepped up and played that year.


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[Assistant] Now ultimately when he got to Cincinnati, he continued to do great and positive things, which it worked out. But that's why the Saints.


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[Assistant] We're looking at it the way that we're looking at it and plus they had his replacement in the building already in Davenport.


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[Assistant] But what I'm doing is I'm laying it out on why it happened that way. I use, I say Hendrickson because Alex Anzolone situation was.


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[Assistant] I ain't gonna say it was similar because Alex Anzolone, it brings me into my, I want to think about Alex Anzolone situation with the Saints.


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[Assistant] Alex was, was awesome. He played like his hair was on fire his first several years in the game. He was another linebacker that kept getting hurt.


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[Assistant] Remember he had a history of shoulder surgeries that he would have all the way back to the University of Florida.


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[Assistant] And when he got to the league, the Sinks were very patient with Alexander Aloni and he can get hurt and hurt and hurt and then.


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[Assistant] It came down to like the last year or two, Alex Anzolone stopped playing like the hair on fire Alex Anzolone that we loved and he started playing real safe. And that's what got him up out of here.


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[Assistant] When, cause there would be times where Alexander Zoloni was, he was awesome. He played with his hair on fire. He was in there making plays. And then toward the back end of his career with the Saints, he just, it all went docile. It all went milk toast. He was scared to...


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[Assistant] Do certain things and you can tell it was noticeable. Now that changed when he went to Detroit. Yeaah, that changed, but during that period of time.


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[Assistant] When the Saints were there, we had to make a decision on what's going, what happens with Alexander's alone and they chose to.


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[Assistant] Let Alex Ancelone rock us because Alex Ancelone, man, all that aggression that he had the first couple of years in the last year.


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[Assistant] Of his contract with the Saints, it all went away. It was like he was playing real safe. He was playing not to get hurt is what he was doing. And it was very noticeable because he's a fiery player. You know that.