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[Assistant] Uh, 21 Savage, kinda early on. And I only say he's Asian to say that, you know, he's not a guy. Visibly looks like he's in a gang or whatever. And like, he said that 21 kinda gave him a hard time because, uh, he like pulled him aside because he had his legs crossed. With the wrong leg over the other leg. And I always thought that was pretty interesting.


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[Assistant] I thought you hated music from the 90s. I'm like, bro, no. But, you know, like, I mean, I don't really like to respond to people who are like, I'm just so far past the idea that everybody's supposed to like me. I get it that I'm almost like a caricature at this point to people, to certain people. I'm a caricature of what I actually am.


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[Assistant] And I'm like, you know, I get that. Like I don't, there's a lot of people I don't like and it's not like I've watched every single podcast of theirs. I watched all their YouTube videos. It's like, I get it. Like you're not supposed to like everybody.


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[Assistant] I was never the most liked person growing up. So like, it blows my mind that I could be like popular to whatever extent. So then like the large percentage of people that also hate me in relationship to me being well liked by some segment of people, it's like, I totally get it. Cause that was, I had a lot more of that back in the day.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well this is real shit right here, yeah. So you get out of college and like, you went to college to be a writer? No. Good god, no. Okay.


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[Assistant] I think I was looking at cocaine blunts in like 2003 though.


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[Assistant] I don't think you're gonna find those shirts, I think we sent them off to the shipment center just for the record.


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[Assistant] Just so you know, we do our shipping from a third party place in La Mirada.


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[Assistant] Welcome to Atlanta. Uhm, okay. So, let me ask you this. Has rap always been your primary, uh, favorite style of music?


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[Assistant] He's cool, but I mean, he hits it on all cylinders, like, crazy rich, crazy famous.


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[Assistant] It's always weird when you do an interview and then, you know, with almost every artist who's like older, it's like, you don't get to do the narrative of like, oh, you, you won.


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[Assistant] You know, like if you were interviewing Lil Uzi Vert right now, you could, you could have that notion of like, look, you, you're winning right now. But with Master P even it's like,


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[Assistant] He's made so much fucking money, he's accomplished so much, but at the end of the day, it's like the fan base probably has moved on and probably, I don't know what kind of numbers he does when he puts something out, but you definitely get the vibe that he's not happy about the state of the music industry, which is the thing that made him rich.


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[Assistant] Yeah, sometimes I feel like I have a hard time engaging with like fans who want to just praise the fuck out of me. Because in my head, I've already written off the opinion of people who dislike me to the extent that like when someone is enthusiastic about it, it's almost hard for me to even like break down that wall and acknowledge that I care about their opinion of what I'm doing in general.


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[Assistant] You know, I just don't know how to act like super thankful for it because the truth is that I'm not really trying. I don't want to be judging myself on somebody else's scoreboard. I want to be on my own, you know?


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[Assistant] That was great, yeaah. Uhm, yeaah, because my viral tweet, where I said my lean man made a music video and it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] That's cool cause I feel like I get that exact statement all the time.


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[Assistant] I do that to people all the time and I feel bad about it, but it just feels like it's just kinda part of where I'm at.


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[Assistant] I love Greedo. Well, TK has been trying to tell me about Greedo for like six months and I just never, I never even looked it up. And then I fucking go, I watch fucking mafia business. I'm like, Oh my God, this is amazing. This is fucking one of the best things I've heard from like a local LA kid and like forever.


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[Assistant] And TK was telling me about for 6 months and I'm just over here in my own little fucking world.


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[Assistant] I don't really, well I guess I could say I like reading. I have a really hard time sitting back with a book. My attention span is tough for that these days.


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[Assistant] I mean, maybe you don't need a label, but there's a very, very good chance that the people at the label know a lot of stuff that you don't know.


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[Assistant] So you get an artist on your label and what are the things that you consider to be, uh, that you're in charge of once you sign somebody?


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[Assistant] Do you feel like a kind of anachronism though in the sense that you are very much like doing it like out of your, out of your heart in terms of like the types of content you make and the content that you're putting out and stuff?


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[Assistant] Okay, but so did the, has the progress, supposed progress of the internet, cause you could argue that like rap writing might have been at a high point in like 2006 or 2007 or 2008 or when the Tumblr revolution was going hard, right?


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[Assistant] He's got some nice beats, he's got some funny stuff here and there. I listened to that last album a bunch of times and I just found myself being very okay with it.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, there's just this series of like perverse incentives that have really done a number on the journalism world in terms of the internet because now we know, you know, like granted, yea, you have


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[Assistant] You have a bunch of sites that do reviews and stuff, but none of them seem terribly enthusiastic about it. Like granted with something like Pitchfork, that's their whole brand. Is anyone enthusiastic about anything though? I mean, in terms of the written word.


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[Assistant] Exactly, yeaah. Whereas if you write, if you were to say, review the Kendrick Lamar album, it's like, say you give it a 9 or a 10, alright cool, like that's probably kind of what people are expecting. You give that shit a 2?


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[Assistant] You can pretty much guarantee that you're gonna cause a firestorm online, and that people are gonna be hate reading the fuck out of it.


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[Assistant] I saw them in person the other day when I was sitting around outside the breakfast club while they were recording.


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[Assistant] Walking around, talking to people, saying, new song dropping Wednesday, Rihanna and Bryson Tiller.


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[Assistant] He was, it was like they caught him where he actually says to the photographer like, Hey, get one of us laughing. And then he like hits like a fake laugh and then boom, they get the photo of him. And I think it was Kevin Hart laughing.


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[Assistant] And it's just like, oh, so that's not real when there's like a photo of you having this like big belly, belly ache, which a lot of people were doing tweets that were just showing all these pictures of Jay-Z laughing over the, over the years. And it's kind of like, were these all fake?


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[Assistant] Seeing him do that made me just think, like, I'm not putting enough thought into my Instagram photos. Like, I could be exercising a whole different level of orchestration in terms of how I present myself.


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[Assistant] I got all these cool shirts for free from fans.


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[Assistant] So, this shirt just says shoot first and it's offset, it's on the wrong side.


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[Assistant] I had an exo at the best vintage t-shirt I've ever seen which just said like, you know, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, the official jail of the 1984 Olympics.


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[Assistant] And I just thought the official jail had its own t-shirt. Like how the fuck did that really occur?


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[Assistant] It is. That's what we do. We drive down there on the east coast. You take that 20 hour drive in your mom's Subaru and you fucking go Disney World.


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[Assistant] So you think the days ago in a theme park with your father are over?


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[Assistant] That's fair. Wait, so you've always been primarily interested in rap, but then when I've been over your house, I've seen your record collection, it's crazy, you seem to have a very, very wide array of knowledge about rap.


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[Assistant] You know, I started this podcast because of the fact that I was just the kind of guy that would love to just go down a wormhole and like find a rapper I liked and all of a sudden I'm-


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[Assistant] You know, there's a temptation to almost become like a caricature of yourself because like when I look at the way


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[Assistant] People tend to write about me or refer to me, whether they're praising me or insulting me at this point. It's kind of like, oh, he's the SoundCloud guy. He's like the young rapper guy who like interviews these young rappers, blah, blah, blah. To me, I was never limited in any sort of way in terms of the stuff that I could get interested in. Like I could very...


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[Assistant] He is nowadays. Yeah, I was, I was actually really into him when he was still like super acoustic and raw. Um, but, uh, what was it? The best ever death death metal band out of Denton. I think that was my favorite song with him at that time.


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[Assistant] But isn't that kind of strange to think that you could be a kid and you just like see a Nirvana t-shirt, you go listen to Nirvana for a sec. But it's such a pose now, it's so consistently a pose.


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[Assistant] Do you structure your life so that you have a significant amount of like free time and so that you're able to just consume culture, I guess?


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[Assistant] Right. I just, I feel like I know certain people who work in media that like over schedule themselves to the point where, you know, cause I was around like DJ MD and Charlamagne and stuff and like, you know, that's a different beast.


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[Assistant] Right, there was other people like from the podcast network and stuff kind of talking to them and there was like conversations like, oh have you heard this? Have you heard this thing? And you talk about music and podcasts and it's just sort of like overall vibe I'm getting is like these dudes who are really successful tend to like...


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[Assistant] Complicate their lives to an insane degree by just scheduling the fuck out of themselves so that they never have a chance to like


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[Assistant] Sit back and spend an hour watching YouTube videos and new rappers or sit on fucking Worldstar or some blog and just check out a bunch of bullshit. Never mind sit there for an hour and listen to some guys podcast just to see what you think of it. And once you become really successful, you kind of lose touch with that experience. And then like, like for me, I think that experience and


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[Assistant] Enjoying that experience is probably like one of the main things that makes me objectively in any way special or interesting in terms of what I'm doing.


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[Assistant] No, that's interesting cause that is like the main reason why, cause that's like probably the main thing that I read about myself negatively if I were to like search my name on Twitter is like oh you're a culture vulture, you're white, you're a piece of shit, whatever.


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[Assistant] And, I mean, that's like the primary thing that I don't really feel like responding to, because number one, I don't feel like there's a, I don't feel like it's true. I think if somebody were to like objectively look at like all the podcasts they're doing stuff, they'd be like, okay, yeah, you hang out a little pump sometimes, but you just put out, you know.


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[Assistant] I feel like I could lowkey be somebody who publishes pretty easily.


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[Assistant] I don't feel like I know that. Like he's personally denied that he did it to me. Yea, I have my doubts about whether that's true or not. At the end of the day, it's kinda like, I mean, I feel like over the years I've swallowed so many accusations of different people that it's kinda like,


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[Assistant] And if he did do that, it was like an 18 year old kid. Yeah, I agree. It's heinous. I've never hit a girl like that or anything. And you know, it sucks to have to even think about it, but.


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[Assistant] Well, a lot of it's very tribal in a way too, in the sense that like, you know, I couldn't listen to a Troy Av song. Because, you know, yeaah, I think he seems like a dickhead, but more so than that, it's like, shit that happened between him and Tax is like, I don't wanna fucking hear what the fuck you gotta say.


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[Assistant] You know, it's like, with X, it's like, of course I'm able to forgive him because I loved him before I knew about those accusations or whatever. You know, like, loved him as a person. At the end of the day, it is what it is. Troye Ab, it's like the same thing. It's like, I don't give a fuck about, I actually liked him as a rapper at a certain point, probably


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[Assistant] No, it was like a white Christmas or something. Some stupid cocaine joke.


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[Assistant] Troy Ave has like objectively been trying to seem like the biggest cunt possible for his entire career as far as I can tell.


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[Assistant] Because at a certain point he turned heel and became the evil Troiav. But for a while it was, I remember really earlier when, oh, his old mix tapes were called Bricks in My Backpack or something. And I remember him with the backpack on, on maybe Sway or something, doing the interview talking about, yea, you know, I was going uptown with the bricks in my backpack, blah, blah, blah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and TK was sort of saying that, he was like, you know.


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[Assistant] Some guys, what they rap about is not nearly as bad as what they've done and what they've seen. And with some guys, they have seen and done nothing and they talk as if they've done everything.


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[Assistant] But I hear the conversations these guys have and like, when dudes come around that are not certified and they're talking all this gang shit, it's like, out here? It's, there's a fucking, you're a target as soon as you start to...


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[Assistant] Could you, could you look at Perico and say like, okay, there's a corollary there with YG, to me they seem like sort of, uh, their appeal is quite similar.


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[Assistant] But we haven't had like a breakthrough LA hip-hop street guy in a while, right?


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[Assistant] You know that song with TC and Tripp? The newer like Vince Staples feature, which is like the most overtly Crip I've ever seen Vince Staples behave. And it was like, this is, this is a little different.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. And that's what's funny when people try to use that as an insult. It's like you spend a lot of time around like sixteen, eighteen year olds.


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[Assistant] I actually, I used to live in like a BMX flop house before I got my own apartment like eight months ago and I actually kind of missed that is that there's a lot of songs like real real like SoundCloud underground like post Raider clan type stuff that was like my friends would just be listening to it and I like knew about it because of that like I got a fucking Knight Lavelle interview that I was like


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[Assistant] The diehard fans were like really impressed that I knew about that or whatever and it was all cause my next door roommate was listening to them constantly and I kinda had to figure out a point.


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[Assistant] Here you go. Alright, let me ask you this. It's like, how much do you appreciate and enjoy the experience of being like a freelance writer and like reporting back to editors and having to deal with these publications? I think there's like an assumption with a lot of people that being a freelance writer in 2017 is dog shit and you seem like you kind of


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[Assistant] Yeah, like if you could prove you're funny on Twitter, if you can prove that you are able to, you know, have some, some good observations here and there, it's like, let's be real, that's how you end up knowing about writers in 2017 for the most part.


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[Assistant] Well you get that perspective from like reading history and stuff is like, and in a lot of ways I feel like that's probably one of the good ways that I've


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[Assistant] Learn to like deal with stresses to read biographies or read history and just think about life outside of my own perspective because sometimes, you know, I'll have the temptation to be like, God, I have seven interviews scheduled this week. This is fucking insane.


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[Assistant] Or if you go watch a documentary or read a book and like put yourself in somebody else's shoes for a minute and for that period of time remember that you're not the center of the universe which as someone who's done acid like I have I think that was a big thing that I ended up sort of like meditating on.


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[Assistant] It was that, that was a big thing I realized is like, you live like, and I do, I live my life as if I'm the center of the fucking universe and everything that's going on rotates around me, which I think is a big part of like me being able to be confident enough to be able to go out into the world and do these things.


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[Assistant] Into themselves, thanks to their clout, is like one of the worst things that I encounter on a regular basis.


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[Assistant] And it's bad too because I have like a reputation for knowing about all these SoundCloud rappers, so I meet some dude that has like 10,000 followers and I don't know about him and he's like personally offended, like how could you not know about me?


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[Assistant] Oh, constantly with that though that people bring up artists and I don't know about them and they're like


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[Assistant] But I go very out of my way to have my taste be my taste and my discovery mechanisms be my discovery mechanisms and that's why I will never click something in my DMs from an artist, ever.


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[Assistant] I mean, some people might be tempted to like paint it as like tourism in a sense, but that is a big part of it too. That was like doing podcasts, doing writing, whatever. It's really just a venue for you to be able to meet people and experience different ways of life. And I really liked that in the sense like I've done a lot of fucking traveling in my life. And at the end of the day, most of it ultimately felt kind of,


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[Assistant] I'm fulfilling because it's like if you go somewhere, yeah, it's cool that you, you did this, that you were, you were around this, but at the end of the day, if you weren't somehow engaging with that, or if you weren't somehow, you know, creating something out of that, documenting something.


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[Assistant] I haven't always felt totally bullish on the future of podcasts, like as a business or as like a...


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[Assistant] As an art form. Yeah, okay, true. But, but then to an extent, I see it as kind of being like the only segment of hip hop media in which like some significant percentage of people seem excited about it. Which is nice, you know?


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[Assistant] It's crazy to think of anyone being like rappers besides rappers because since I was a kid, rappers have always like stood out and just that title, like rapper, like girls would be like,


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[Assistant] Did you ever rap? I'm never rapping. I'm never dating a rapper again. No, never rapped.


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[Assistant] Even like yesterday I was in the fucking studio with Lil Pump and like he's, he's doing his


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[Assistant] In my opinion, like, I'm sitting there and he actually had a bar where he said, uh, I like it because he's like owning the meme. He goes, Lil Pump dropped out of Harvard, uh, eat them zans like Starburst. So okay, whatever. But I like that he's owning the meme with the dropped out of Harvard thing because that's like a thing a lot of people have been saying about him.


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[Assistant] But then I started like freestyling about like hint about like as if I was a little pump about


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[Assistant] Having a threesome with the producer and how I hope that our balls don't touch and I personally thought that my lyrics were probably better than whatever he wrote. I thought that mine were funnier.


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[Assistant] So you're just referenced out the ass. I don't know about shit. I don't watch movies. I don't want TV. I haven't read a book in fucking that long. I'm reading. I've read Charlemagne's book cause I did this podcast. I had to do that. Yeah. Are you familiar with Charlemagne?


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, it would be cool if I had just gotten rid of the atom really early on and I was just 22.


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[Assistant] No, they're Masons. No, no they weren't. But, I don't know. They're French-Canadian fucking weird-ass.


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[Assistant] You know what was a funny experience with me? Uh, my parents were visiting, I guess like about a year ago or whatever, went straight out of Compton, came out. So I go to the mall with them and I see it with them at the Grove, which is funny. And afterwards I hear my parents just being like,


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[Assistant] You know, I never even knew about who NWA were. That was a cool movie, blah, blah, blah. And I'm just thinking, I'm like, you threw away my NWA CDs when I was like 13 or whatever and you don't even remember it. And I'm kind of insulted by that.


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[Assistant] Right. Sorry mom. Dude, Eazy E at a certain point became like a shock rapper, remember?


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[Assistant] So I got a whole bunch of hits at one point. Well, I say hits.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that's one great thing about the internet is that nobody really remembers your failures so much. Like for me, I've done probably 200 of these podcasts, let's say 150 of them were like upstart rappers to a certain extent, probably not, maybe like 100, but I probably had maybe like


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[Assistant] Strides or whatever, you know, uh, I mean those are good but then I've done plenty of interviews with dudes who you'll never hear from again and nobody really remembers that because it's easy to forget about those.


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[Assistant] Because outside of the context of that moment, it doesn't seem as intelligent because like, if Lil Pump said that right now, it's like, it's already been said. It's not interesting anymore. But in that moment, he was describing violence in a way that you probably had never really, it sounded so convincing and so specific and so real that there was, there's no way around it.


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[Assistant] But he himself says, like, I won't, I don't like doing interviews, I won't do an interview, et cetera, et cetera. To me, it's like, I feel like the, okay, so I've hung out with, uh, YSL Duke a couple of times. Not, not because I wanted to or whatever. I'm young, raw five. Okay. Well, but just because fucking. I like YSL.


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[Assistant] But so Duke and Double be hanging out and so I've been around Duke a couple times, Duke mentioned like, oh we should do an interview. I'm like, alright cool, yea I would definitely do that. And then it's weird to think, like, that to me is the only way that I could ever get a good young thug podcast.


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[Assistant] I think I could too, I just think that it would be the kind of thing where I wouldn't even want it unless I felt like he had already decided in his head, this guy's cool, I'm gonna sit down and talk to him.


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[Assistant] If I knew I was gonna get a Chief Keef interview on Sunday and right now it's Thursday, I would have, I would be having anxiety until Sunday.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's, it's, okay, with somebody like G Perico, it's like, okay, I get offered that interview. I'm not someone who's, I'm not a mega fan. I'm not like sitting around listening to him all the time. I'd watched all his videos on YouTube and stuff.


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[Assistant] You know, I like do think it's important that I like have some rough sketch of like who he is in my mind and like have read all his interviews and I've listened to the mixtapes and watched the videos. To me that's like the bare minimum because it's like I want to be able to


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[Assistant] Cause it's all about listening and it's all about somehow being able to listen well enough that you're gonna have something interesting to say in response, you know?


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[Assistant] With Robesman. I would like to get you and Robesman together because I feel like that would be a very cerebral, uh, adventure through time with you two together. Although he's, he's never dipped into the psychedelic pool at all. This is kind of a shame.


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[Assistant] I like Rosamund because he's sort of like deep down inside. I know he's like deeply troubled, troubled like myself and he just does a much better job. But like he's had to have a job all these years, so he's like good at covering it up.


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[Assistant] Uh, when I was like 12, well I mean I worked for a long time because I had paper route when I was 12 for like many years and then I was selling newspaper subscriptions door to door, I was selling shoes to Sears and everything. I don't think I ever like worked 40 hours a week because pretty much I was like selling drugs and scamming by the time I graduated, well, one year out of high school I started doing all that stuff.


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[Assistant] All these cis females who are loving her. I'm assuming I've never committed credit card fraud or whatever. I enjoy it from a more authentic standpoint I think, but I don't know.


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[Assistant] That local hangout for him could have very easily been there.


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[Assistant] That's crazy. That's one, I think you told me that. Or at least I read that somewhere.


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[Assistant] But just the presence of an orb is kinda like, well, certainly there's no orbs in America.


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[Assistant] No, but he was homeless for the first three years of his life. And then I got him from the Williamsburg Animal Shelter of all places in probably 2007.


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[Assistant] Is he fucking up my hoodie with his goddamn fur right now? Yes. You piece of shit.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, this doesn't bother me. I play with this fucking thing in front of rappers all the time and actually it's funny cause like, I've had like- I mean logic does root.


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[Assistant] But making albums about space and being biracial, I just don't.


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[Assistant] Yo, but think about this is that me and Charlam- me and Charlam made butted heads on his podcast because he said that Cardi B was really dope and I'm like, no. And then he said-


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[Assistant] I was actually a Cardi B fan until she started rapping because her music really sucks dig. And I thought she was really funny before that. And then also he's like, oh yea, I like the new Rick Ross album on my mind. I thought it was pretty good.


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[Assistant] I was just telling Charlamagne, I don't want to hear that shit, because he's an old ass man, which is, that's the same thing people say about me all the time, but I don't know why the fuck I ever listened to him in the first place.


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[Assistant] You're comparing Rick Ross as a rapper in 2017 to Lobster. There's no diminishing returns when it comes to Lobster. It's always been good and it's always gonna be good.


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[Assistant] Are you excited to hear a Jay-Z album in 2017? No. Not excited. But you'll listen to it?


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[Assistant] To me, Jay-Z helped me understand what it was to really be obsessed with a rapper because it was around the time of the, he had kinda like missed my peripheral up until like


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[Assistant] But like Wuchang and Outkast have like a real serious output whereas Children of the Corn was kind of limited.


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[Assistant] Okay, but 1997 Mace, in my opinion, wraps much, much better, or at least more marketably than 1997 Cam Run.


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[Assistant] Totally different delivery, everything about his voice had changed, his delivery, oh my god.


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[Assistant] I was never able to really swallow that. He might have been the most exciting, exhilarating one at a certain point.


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[Assistant] Off of an output that was so different than the typical album based release that you had seen from people who you would have considered the best rapper of all time. It was a completely new paradigm. Even when now we look at Kendrick and we're like oh he's probably the best current active rapper, but I mean, his incredibly tight control output, you go a year without hearing nothing besides maybe a verse or two.


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[Assistant] It's interesting because it was always, I always thought LA rap, even though I got into it kind of through like Dre and Stoop and stuff, I always felt like I was more interested in East Coast rap when it was East versus West.


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[Assistant] But then I kinda like, it was weird cause Limp Bizka was my favorite band and then six months later I was super into like straight edge hardcore and thought Limp Bizka was the gayest shit I ever heard in my life.


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[Assistant] Hey, were you ever on uh, BMG or like Columbia Music House and shit?


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[Assistant] One time, in one like day or week, I stole two different BMG music for Columbia House CD packages and both of them contain- Columbia House is a real racket man. Both of them contain the same Kid Rock CD.


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[Assistant] Alright. We are at two hours and eight minutes. You got any, uh, thanks or anything? I like how I brought back Amy Grant. You mentioned her early on. I brought her back in. Thanks.


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[Assistant] Anyway, Jeff, thank you for coming through and cracking a few cold ones with the boys. This has been a good time. Everybody.


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[Assistant] I don't type anywhere else. I would always type in Passion of the Wise, click enter in Google, and then just click the first thing that comes up.


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[Assistant] Go down the rabbit holes. You already know. No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, Soundcloud, iTunes.


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[Assistant] I ain't got no wife waiting for me, baby. How about a date tonight? You big pig. You know what you can do with your dates. Okay, okay.


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[Assistant] And he said, no, no births ever took place here.


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[Assistant] You never had a birth. All of it.


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[Assistant] It was the 21st of January in Lodz.


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[Assistant] And the head nurse said, alright, Frau Lüderking, you can pick one of the two children. And she


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[Assistant] And the head nurse said, alright, Frau Lüderking, you can pick one of the two children.


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[Assistant] News you can trust should be news you can rely on.


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[Assistant] If I was compelled to leave you without much news during the early days of my mission,


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[Assistant] You must acknowledge that I am making up for lost time and that events are now crowding thick and fast upon us.


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[Assistant] In my last report I ended upon my top note with Barry Moore at the window.


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[Assistant] And now I have quite a budget already which will, unless I am much mistaken, considerably surprise you. Things have taken a turn which I could not have anticipated.


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[Assistant] In some ways they have, within the last forty-eight hours, become much clearer, and in some ways they have become more complicated. But I will tell you all, and you shall judge for yourself.


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[Assistant] Before breakfast, on the morning following my adventure, I went down the corridor and examined the room in which Barrymore had been on the night before.


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[Assistant] The western window through which he had stared so intently has, I noticed, one peculiarity above all other windows in the house. It commands the nearest outlook on to the moor.


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[Assistant] There is an opening between two trees which enables one from this point of view to look right down upon it.


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[Assistant] While from all the other windows it is only a distant glimpse which can be obtained.


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[Assistant] It follows therefore that Barrymore, since only this window, would serve the purpose.


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[Assistant] Must have been looking out for something or somebody upon the moor.


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[Assistant] The night was very dark, so that I can hardly imagine how he could have hoped to see anyone.


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[Assistant] It had struck me that it was possible that some love-intrigue was on foot. That would have accounted for his stealthy movements, and also for the uneasiness of his wife. The man is a striking looking fellow,


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[Assistant] Very well equipped to steal the heart of a country girl.


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[Assistant] So that this theory seemed to have something to support it.


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[Assistant] That opening of the door which I had heard after I had returned to my room


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[Assistant] However much the result may have shown that they were unfounded.


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[Assistant] But whatever the true explanation of Barrymore's movements might be,


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[Assistant] I felt that the responsibility of keeping them to myself until I could explain them was more than I could bear.


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[Assistant] I had an interview with the baronet in his study after breakfast, and I told him all that I had seen. He was less surprised than I had expected.


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[Assistant] I knew that Barrymore walked about nights and I had a mind to speak to him about it, said he.


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[Assistant] Two or three times I have heard his steps in the passage coming and going. Just about the hour you name.


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[Assistant] Perhaps then he pays a visit every night to that particular window, I suggested.


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[Assistant] Perhaps he does. If so, we should be able to shadow him and see what it is that he is after. I wonder what your friend Holmes would do if he were here.


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[Assistant] I believe that he would do exactly what you now suggest," said I. He would follow Barrymore and see what he did. Then we shall do it together.


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[Assistant] But surely he would hear us. The man is rather deaf and in any case we must take our chance of that. We'll sit up in my room tonight and wait until he passes.


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[Assistant] Sir Henry rubbed his hands with pleasure, and it was evident that he hailed the adventure as a relief to his somewhat quiet life upon the moor.


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[Assistant] The baronet has been in communication with the architect who prepared the plans for Sir Charles and with a contractor from London.


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[Assistant] So that we may expect great changes to begin here soon.


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[Assistant] There have been decorators and furnishers up from Plymouth.


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[Assistant] And it is evident that our friend has large ideas and means to spare no pains or expense to restore the grandeur of his family.


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[Assistant] When the house is renovated and refurnished, all that he will need will be a wife to make it complete.


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[Assistant] Between ourselves there are pretty clear signs that this will not be wanting if the lady is willing.


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[Assistant] I have seldom seen a man more infatuated with a woman than he is with our beautiful neighbour Miss Stapleton.


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[Assistant] And yet the course of true love does not run quite as smoothly as one would under the circumstances expect.


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[Assistant] Today, for example, its surface was broken by a very unexpected ripple which has caused our friend considerable perplexity and annoyance.


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[Assistant] After the conversation which I have quoted about Barrymore,


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[Assistant] Sir Henry put on his hat and prepared to go out.


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[Assistant] As a matter of course I did the same. What are you coming, Watson? he asked, looking at me in a curious way.


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[Assistant] That depends on whether you are going on the moor, said I. Yes, I am.


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[Assistant] Well, you know what my instructions are. I'm sorry to intrude, but you heard how earnestly Holmes insisted that I should not leave you.


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[Assistant] And especially that you should not go alone upon the moor.


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[Assistant] Sir Henry put his hand upon my shoulder with a pleasant smile.


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[Assistant] My dear fellow," said he, Holmes, with all his wisdom, did not foresee some things which have happened since I have been on the moor. You understand me?


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[Assistant] I'm sure that you are the last man in the world who would wish to be a spoilsport. I must go out alone. It put me in a most awkward position. I was at a loss what to say or what to do.


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[Assistant] And before I had made up my mind he picked up his cane and was gone.


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[Assistant] But when I came to think the matter over my conscience reproached me bitterly, for having on any pretext allowed him to go out of my sight.


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[Assistant] I imagined what my feelings would be if I had to return to you and to confess that some misfortune had occurred through my disregard for your instructions. I assure you my cheeks flushed at the very thought


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[Assistant] It might not even now be too late to overtake him, so I set off at once in the direction of Mary Pitt House.


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[Assistant] I hurried along the road at the top of my speed, without seeing anything of Sir Henry, until I came to the point where the moor path branches off.


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[Assistant] There, fearing that perhaps I had come in the wrong direction after all, I mounted a hill from which I could command a view.


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[Assistant] He was on the moor path about a quarter of a mile off.


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[Assistant] And a lady was by his side who could only be Miss Stapleton.


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[Assistant] It was clear that there was already an understanding between them and that they had met by appointment.


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[Assistant] They were walking slowly along in deep conversation.


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[Assistant] And I saw her making quick little movements of her hands, as if she were very earnest in what she was saying, while he listened intently and once or twice shook his head in strong descent.


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[Assistant] I stood among the rocks watching them, very much puzzled as to what I should do next.


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[Assistant] Follow them and break into their intimate conversation seem to be an outrage.


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[Assistant] And yet my clear duty was never for an instant to let him out of my sight.


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[Assistant] To act the spy upon a friend was a hateful task.


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[Assistant] Still, I could see no better course than to observe him from the hill.


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[Assistant] And to clear my conscience by confessing to him afterwards what I had done. It is true that if any sudden danger had threatened him I was too far away to be of use.


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[Assistant] And yet I'm sure that you will agree with me that the position was very difficult, and that there was nothing more which I could do.


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[Assistant] Our friend Sir Henry and the lady had halted on the path and were standing deeply absorbed in their conversation.


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[Assistant] When I was suddenly aware that I was not the only witness of their interview.


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[Assistant] A wisp of green floating in the air caught my eye.


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[Assistant] And another glance showed me that it was carried on a stick by a man who was moving among the broken ground. It was Stapleton, with his butterfly net. He was very much closer to the pair than I was, and he appeared to be moving in their direction.


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[Assistant] At this instant Sir Henry suddenly drew Miss Stapleton to his side.


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[Assistant] His arm was round her, but it seemed to me that she was straining away from him with her face averted. He stooped his head to hers, and she raised one hand as if in protest.


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[Assistant] Next moment I saw them spring apart and turn hurriedly round. Stapleton was the cause of the interruption.


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[Assistant] He was running wildly towards them, his absurd net dangling behind him.


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[Assistant] But it seemed to me that Stapleton was abusing Sir Henry, who offered explanations, which became more angry as the other refused to accept them. The lady stood by in haughty silence.


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[Assistant] Finally Stapleton turned upon his heel and beckoned in a peremptory way to his sister, who, after an irresolute glance at Sir Henry, walked off by the side of her brother.


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[Assistant] The naturalist's angry gestures showed that the lady was included in his displeasure. The baronet stood for a minute looking after them, and then he walked slowly back the way that he had come, his head hanging the very picture of dejection.


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[Assistant] What all this meant I could not imagine, but I was deeply ashamed to have witnessed so intimate a scene without my friend's knowledge.


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[Assistant] I ran down the hill therefore and met the baronet at the bottom.


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[Assistant] His face was flushed with anger and his brows were wrinkled like one who is at his wits' ends what to do.


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[Assistant] Hello Watson, where have you dropped from? said he.


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[Assistant] You don't mean to say that you came after me in spite of all? I explained everything to him.


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[Assistant] How I had found it impossible to remain behind.


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[Assistant] How I had followed him, and how I had witnessed all that had occurred. For an instant his eyes blazed at me.


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[Assistant] But my frankness disarmed his anger, and he broke at last into a rather rueful laugh. He would have thought the middle of that prairie a fairly safe place for a man to be private, said he.


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[Assistant] But by thunder the whole countryside seems to have been out to see me do my wooing. And a mighty poor wooing at that. Where had you engaged a seat? I was on that hill. Quite in the back row, eh? But her brother was well up to the front. Did you see him come out on us? Yes, I did.


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[Assistant] Did he ever strike you as being crazy? This brother of hers? I can't say that he ever did. I dare say not. I always thought him sane enough until today.


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[Assistant] But you can take it from me that either he or I ought to be in a straight jacket. What's the matter with me anyhow?


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[Assistant] You've lived near me for some weeks, Watson. Tell me straight now, is there anything that would prevent me from making a good husband to a woman that I loved? I should say not.


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[Assistant] He can't object to my worldly position, so it must be myself that he has this down on.


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[Assistant] I tell you, Watson, I've only known her these few weeks, but from the first I just felt that she was made for me. And she too. She was happy when she was with me, and that I'll swear.


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[Assistant] There's a light in a woman's eyes that speaks louder than words. But he has never let us get together.


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[Assistant] It was not love that she would talk about, and she wouldn't have let me talk about it either if she could have stopped it.


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[Assistant] Coming back to it that this was a place of danger and that she would never be happy until I had left it. I told her that since I had seen her...


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[Assistant] Before she could answer, down came this brother of hers, running at us with a face on him like a madman. He was just white with rage, and those light eyes of his were blazing with fury. What was I doing with the lady? How dared I offer her attentions which were distasteful to her?


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[Assistant] Did I think that because I was a baronet I could do what I liked? If he had not been her brother I should have known better how to answer him.


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[Assistant] As it was I told him that my feelings towards his sister were such as I was not ashamed of.


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[Assistant] And that I hoped that she might honor me by becoming my wife. That seemed to make the matter no better.


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[Assistant] So then I lost my temper, too, and I answered him rather more hotly than I should, perhaps, considering that she was standing by.


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[Assistant] So it ended by his going off with her, as you saw.


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[Assistant] And here I am as badly puzzled a man as any in this county. Just tell me what it all means, Watson.


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[Assistant] And I'll owe you more than ever I can hope to pay. I tried one or two explanations, but indeed I was completely puzzled myself.


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[Assistant] Our friend's title, his fortune, his age, his character, and his appearance are all in his favour, and I know nothing against him.


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[Assistant] Unless it be this dark fate which runs in his family.


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[Assistant] That his advances should be rejected so brusquely without any reference to the lady's own wishes.


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[Assistant] And that the lady should accept the situation without protest is very amazing.


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[Assistant] However, our conjectures were set at rest by a visit from Stapleton himself that very afternoon.


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[Assistant] He had come to offer apologies for his rudeness of the morning.


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[Assistant] And after a long private interview with Sir Henry and his study, the upshot of their conversation was that the breach is quite healed.


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[Assistant] And that we are to dine at Mary Pitt House next Friday as a sign of it.


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[Assistant] I don't say now that he isn't a crazy man, said Sir Henry. I can't forget the look in his eyes when he ran at me this morning.


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[Assistant] They've always been together and according to his account he has been a very lonely man with only her as a companion. So that the thought of losing her was really terrible to him.


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[Assistant] He had not understood. He said that I was becoming attached to her.


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[Assistant] And he recognized how foolish and how selfish it was that he should imagine that he could hold a beautiful woman like his sister to himself for her whole life.


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[Assistant] If she had to leave him, he'd rather it was to a neighbour like myself than to anyone else. But in any case it was a blow to him.


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[Assistant] And it would take him some time before he could prepare himself to meet it.


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[Assistant] He would withdraw all opposition upon his part, if I would promise for three months to let the matter rest.


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[Assistant] It is something to have touched bottom anywhere in this bog in which we are floundering.


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[Assistant] We know now why Stapleton looked with disfavour upon his sister's suitor.


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[Assistant] Even when that suitor was so eligible a one as Sir Henry.


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[Assistant] And now I pass onto another thread which I have extricated out of the tangled skein, the mystery of the sobs in the night, of the tear-stained face of Mrs. Barrymore.


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[Assistant] Of the secret journey of the butler to the western lattice window.


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[Assistant] Congratulate me, my dear Holmes, and tell me that I have not disappointed you as an agent.


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[Assistant] That you do not regret the confidence which you showed in me when you sent me down.


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[Assistant] All these things have by one night's work been thoroughly cleared.


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[Assistant] I have said by one night's work, but in truth it was by two night's work, for on the first we drew entirely blank.


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[Assistant] I sat up with Sir Henry in his rooms until nearly three o'clock in the morning, but no sound of any sort did we hear except the chiming clock upon the stairs. It was a most melancholy vigil.


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[Assistant] And ended by each of us falling asleep in our chairs.


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[Assistant] Fortunately we were not discouraged and we determined to try again.


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[Assistant] The next night we lowered the lamp and sat smoking cigarettes without making the least sound.


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[Assistant] It was incredible how slowly the hours crawled by.


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[Assistant] And yet we were helped through it by the same sort of patient interest which the hunter must feel as he watches the trap into which he hopes the game may wander.


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[Assistant] And we had almost for the second time given it up in despair.


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[Assistant] When in an instant we both sat bolt upright in our chairs with all our weary senses keenly on the alert once more, we had heard the creak of a step in the passage.


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[Assistant] Very stealthily we heard it pass along until it died away in the distance. Then the baronet gently opened his door and we set out in pursuit.


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[Assistant] Already our man had gone round the gallery and the corridor was all in darkness.


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[Assistant] Softly we stole along, until we had come into the other wing.


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[Assistant] We were just in time to catch a glimpse of the tall black bearded figure


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[Assistant] His shoulders rounded as he tiptoed down the passage.


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[Assistant] Then he passed through the same door as before, and the light of the candle framed it in the darkness and shot one single yellow beam across the gloom of the corridor. We shuffled cautiously towards it.


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[Assistant] Trying every plank before we dare to put our whole weight upon it.


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[Assistant] We had taken the precaution of leaving our boots behind us, but even so the old board snapped and creaked beneath our tread.


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[Assistant] We found him crouching at the window, candle in hand, his white, intent face pressed against the pane.


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[Assistant] And as he did so Barrymore sprang up from the window with a sharp hiss of his breath and stood livid and trembling before us.


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[Assistant] His dark eyes, glaring out of the white mask of his face, were full of horror and astonishment as he gazed from Sir Henry to me. What are you doing here, Barrymore? Nothing, sir.


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[Assistant] His agitation was so great that he could hardly speak.


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[Assistant] And the shadow sprang up and down from the shaking of his candle. That was the window, sir.


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[Assistant] I go round at night to see that they have fastened. On the second floor. Yes sir, all the windows.


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[Assistant] Look here, Barrymore," said Sir Henry Sternly. We have made up our minds to have the truth out of you, so it will save you trouble to tell it sooner rather than later. Come now, no lies. What were you doing at that window? The fellow looked at us in a helpless way.


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[Assistant] And he rung his hands together like one who is in the last extremity of doubt and misery.


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[Assistant] I was doing no harm, sir. I was holding a candle to the window. And why were you holding a candle to the window? Don't ask me, Sir Henry, don't ask me.


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[Assistant] I give you my word, sir, that it is not my secret, and that I cannot tell it.


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[Assistant] If that concerned no one but myself, I would not try to keep it from you.


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[Assistant] I held it as he had done and stared out into the darkness of the night.


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[Assistant] Vaguely I could discern the black bank of the trees and the lighter expanse of the moor, for the moon was behind the clouds. And then I gave a cry of exultation


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[Assistant] Now you rascal, do you deny that it is a signal? Come, speak up. Who is your confederate out yonder? And what is this conspiracy that is going on?


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[Assistant] The man's face became openly defiant. It is my business and not yours, I will not tell. Then you will leave my employment right away.


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[Assistant] Very good, sir. If I must, I must. And you go in disgrace. By thunder, you may well be ashamed of yourself. Your family has lived with mine for over a hundred years under this roof.


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[Assistant] It was a woman's voice, and Mrs Barrymore, paler and more horror-struck than her husband, was standing at the door.


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[Assistant] Her bulky figure, in a shawl and skirt, might have been comic. Were it not for the intensity of feeling upon her face. We have to go, Eliza, that is the end of it. You can pack our things, said the butler. Oh, John, John, have I brought you to this.


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[Assistant] It is my doing, Sir Henry, all mine. He has done nothing except for my sake, because I asked him. Speak out, then. What does it mean?


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[Assistant] My unhappy brother is starving on the moor. We cannot let him perish at our very gates. The light is a signal to him that food is ready for him.


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[Assistant] And his light out yonder is to show the spark to wish to bring it. Then your brother is— The escaped convicts are—


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[Assistant] The criminal. That's the truth, sir, said Barrymore.


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[Assistant] I said that it was not my secret, and that I could not tell it to you, but now you have heard it.


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[Assistant] And you will see that if there was a plot, it was not a plot against you.


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[Assistant] This then was the explanation of the stealthy expeditions at night and the light at the window.


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[Assistant] Sir Henry and I both stared at the woman in amazement.


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[Assistant] Was it possible that this stolidly respectable person was of the same blood as one of the most notorious criminals in the country? Yes, sir, my name was Selden, and he is my younger brother.


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[Assistant] We humoured him too much when he was a lad and gave him his own way in everything until he came to think that the world was made for his pleasure and that he could do what he liked in it.


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[Assistant] Then as he grew older he met wicked companions and the devil entered into him until he broke my mother's heart and dragged our name in the dirt.


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[Assistant] From crime to crime he sank lower and lower, until it is only the mercy of God which has snatched him from the scaffold. But to me, sir, he was always the little curly-headed boy that I had nursed and played with as an elder sister would. That was why he broke prison, sir.


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[Assistant] He knew that I was here and that we could not refuse to help him.


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[Assistant] When he dragged himself here one night, weary and starving, with the warders hard at his heels, what could we do? We took him in and fed him, cared for him. Then you returned, sir, and my brother thought he would be safer on the moor than anywhere else, until the ewing cry was over. So we lay in hiding there,


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[Assistant] But every second night we made sure if he was still there by putting a light in the window.


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[Assistant] And if there was an answer, my husband took out some bread and meat to him. Every day we hoped that he was gone, but as long as he was there we could not desert him.


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[Assistant] That is the whole truth, as I am an honest Christian woman, and you will see that if there is blame in the matter it does not lie with my husband, but with me, for whose sake he has done all that he has.


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[Assistant] The woman's words came with an intense earnestness which carried conviction with them. Is this true, Barrymore? Yes, Sir Henry, every word of it.


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[Assistant] Well, I cannot blame you for standing by your own wife.


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[Assistant] Forget what I have said. Go to your room, you two, and we shall talk further about this matter in the morning. When they were gone we looked out of the window again. Sir Henry had flung it open, and the cold night wind beat in upon our faces.


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[Assistant] Far away in the black distance there still glowed that one tiny point of yellow light. I wonder he dares, said Sir Henry.


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[Assistant] It may be so placed as to be only visible from here. Very likely.


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[Assistant] How far do you think it is? Out by the Cleft Tor, I think.


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[Assistant] Not more than a mile or two off. Hardly that.


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[Assistant] Well, it cannot be far if Barrymore had to carry out the food to it.


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[Assistant] And he is waiting, this villain beside that candle.


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[Assistant] By Thunder Watson I'm going out to take that man. The same thought had crossed my own mind.


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[Assistant] It was not as if the Barrymores had taken us into their confidence. Their secret had been forced from them.


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[Assistant] The man was a danger to the community, an unmitigated scoundrel for whom there was neither pity nor excuse.


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[Assistant] We were only doing our duty in taking this chance of putting him back where he could do no harm.


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[Assistant] With his brutal and violent nature others would have to pay the price if we held our hands.


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[Assistant] Any night, for example, our neighbours the Stapletons might be attacked by him.


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[Assistant] And it may have been the thought of this which made Sir Henry so keen upon the adventure.


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[Assistant] I will come, said I. Then get your revolver and put on your boots.


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[Assistant] The sooner we start the better, as the fellow may put out his light and be off.


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[Assistant] In five minutes we were outside the door, starting upon our expedition.


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[Assistant] We hurried through the dark shrubbery amid the dull moaning of the autumn wind and the rustle of the falling leaves.


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[Assistant] The night air was heavy with the smell of damp and decay.


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[Assistant] Now and again the moon peeped out for an instant, but clouds were driving over the face of the sky.


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[Assistant] And just as we came out on the moor, a thin rain began to fall. The light still burned steadily in front.


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[Assistant] Are you armed? I asked. I have a hunting crop.


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[Assistant] We must close in on him rapidly, for he is said to be a desperate fellow.


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[Assistant] How about that hour of darkness in which the power of evil is exalted?


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[Assistant] As if in answer to his words there rose suddenly out of the vast gloom of the moor that strange cry which I had already heard upon the borders of the great Grimpen Mire.


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[Assistant] It came with the wind through the silence of the night along deep mutter, then a rising howl, and then the sad moan in which it died away. Again and again it sounded.


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[Assistant] The whole air throbbing with it, strident, wild and menacing.


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[Assistant] The baronet caught my sleeve and his face glimmered white through the darkness. My God, what's that, Watson? I don't know.


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[Assistant] It's a sound they have on the moor. I heard it once before.


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[Assistant] It died away and an absolute silence closed in upon us. We stood straining our ears, but nothing came. Whatson, said the baronet. It was the cry of a hound. My blood ran cold in my veins


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[Assistant] Oh, they are ignorant people, why should you mind what they call it? Tell me Watson, what do they say of it? I hesitated, but could not escape the question.


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[Assistant] But it seemed to come from miles away, over yonder I think. It was hard to say whence it came. It rose and fell with the wind. Isn't that the direction of the great Grimpen Mire? Yes, it is. Well, it was up there.


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[Assistant] Come now, Watson. Didn't you think yourself that it was the cry of a hound? I'm not a child. You need not fear to speak the truth.


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[Assistant] Stapleton was with me when I heard it last. He said that it might be the calling of a strange bird. No, no, it was a hound.


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[Assistant] My God, can there be some truth in all these stories? Is it possible that I am really in danger from so dark a cause? You don't believe it, do you, Watson? No, no. Yet it was one thing to laugh about it in London.


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[Assistant] And it is another to stand out here in the darkness of the moor and to hear such a cry as that, and my uncle. There was the footprint of the hound beside him as he lay. It all fits together. I don't think that I am a coward, Watson. But that sound seemed to freeze my very blood. Feel my hand. It was as cold as a block of marble. You'll be all right tomorrow. I don't think I'll get that cry out of my head.


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[Assistant] What do you advise that we do now? Should we turn back?


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[Assistant] No, by thunder, we have come out to get her a man, and we will do it.


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[Assistant] We after the convict and a hellhound, as likely as not after us. Come on.


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[Assistant] We'll see it through if all the fiends of the pit were loose upon the moor.


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[Assistant] We stumbled slowly along in the darkness, with the black loom of the craggy hills around us, and the yellow speck of light burning steadily in front.


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[Assistant] There is nothing so deceptive as the distance of a light upon a pitch dark night.


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[Assistant] And sometimes the glimmer seemed to be far away upon the horizon, and sometimes it might have been within a few yards of us. But at last we could see whence it came, and then we knew that we were indeed very close.


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[Assistant] A guttering candle was stuck in a crevice of the rocks, which flanked it on each side so as to keep the wind from it, and also to prevent it from being visible save in the direction of Baskerville Hall. A boulder of granite concealed our approach.


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[Assistant] And crouching behind it, we gazed over it at the signal light.


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[Assistant] It was strange to see this single candle burning there in the middle of the moor, with no sign of life near it, just the one straight yellow flame and the gleam of the rock on each side of it. What shall we do now? whispered Sir Henry. Wait here. He must be near his light. Let us see if we can get a glimpse of him.


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[Assistant] The words were hardly out of my mouth when we both saw him.


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[Assistant] Over the rocks in the crevice of which the candle burned.


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[Assistant] There was thrust out an evil yellow face, a terrible animal face, all seamed and scored with vile passions, foul with mire,


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[Assistant] The light beneath him was reflected in his small, cunning eyes, which peered fiercely to right and left.


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[Assistant] Through the darkness, like a crafty and savage animal who has heard the steps of the hunters. Something had evidently aroused his suspicions.


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[Assistant] It may have been that Barry Moore had some private signal which we had neglected to give.


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[Assistant] Or the fellow may have had some other reason for thinking that all was not well, but I could read his fears upon his wicked fate.


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[Assistant] Any instant he might dash out the light and vanish in the darkness.


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[Assistant] I sprang forward, therefore, and Sir Henry did the same.


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[Assistant] At the same moment the convict screamed out a cursodus and hurled a rock, which splintered up against the boulder which had sheltered us.


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[Assistant] I caught one glimpse of his short squat, strongly built figure as he sprang to his feet and turned to run.


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[Assistant] At the same moment by a lucky chance the moon broke through the clouds.


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[Assistant] We rushed over the brow of the hill and there was our man running with great speed down the other side, springing over the stones in his way with the activity of a mountain goat.


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[Assistant] A lucky long shot of my revolver might have crippled him.


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[Assistant] But we soon found that we had no chance of overtaking him.


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[Assistant] We saw him for a long time in the moonlight until he was only a small speck moving swiftly among the boulders upon the side of a distant hill. We ran and ran until we were completely blown, but the space between us grew ever wider.


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[Assistant] Finally we stopped and sat panting on two rocks while we watched him disappearing in the distance.


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[Assistant] And it was at this moment that there occurred a most strange and unexpected thing.


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[Assistant] We had risen from our rocks and were turning to go home, having abandoned the hopeless chase.


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[Assistant] The moon was low upon the right, and the jagged pinnacle of a granite torr stood up against the lower curve of its silver disk.


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[Assistant] There, outlined as black as an ebony statue on that shining background, I saw the figure of a man upon the tour.


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[Assistant] Do not think that it was a delusion, Holmes. I assure you that I have never in my life seen anything more clearly. As far as I could judge, the figure was that of a tall, thin man.


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[Assistant] He might have been the very spirit of that terrible place.


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[Assistant] It was not the convict. This man was far from the place where the latter had disappeared. Besides, he was a much taller man. With a cry of surprise I pointed him out to the baronet


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[Assistant] But in the instant during which I turned to grasp his arm, the man was gone.


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[Assistant] There was the sharp pinnacle of granite still cutting the lower edge of the moon.


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[Assistant] At its peak bore no trace of that silent and motionless figure.


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[Assistant] I wish to go in that direction and to search the Tor, but it was some distance away.


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[Assistant] The baronet's nerves were still quivering from that cry, which recalled the dark story of his family, and he was not in the mood for fresh adventures. He had not seen this lonely man upon the tour


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[Assistant] Today we mean to communicate to the princetown people where they should look for their missing man.


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[Assistant] But it is hard lines that we have not actually had the triumph of bringing him back as our own prisoner.


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[Assistant] Such are the adventures of last night, and you must acknowledge, my dear Holmes, that I have done you very well in the matter of a report. Much of what I tell you is no doubt quite irrelevant.


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[Assistant] But still I feel that it is best that I should let you have all the facts.


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[Assistant] And leave you to select for yourself those which will be of most service to you in helping you to your conclusions. We are certainly making some progress.


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[Assistant] So far as the Barrymores go, we have found the motive of their actions, and that has cleared up the situation very much.


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[Assistant] But the Moor with its mysteries and its strange inhabitants remains as inscrutable as ever.


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[Assistant] Perhaps in my next I may be able to throw some light upon this also. Best of all would it be if you could come down to us.


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[Assistant] In any case, you will hear from me again in the course of the next few days.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, girl. I see you still haven't been able to overcome your weakness, huh? Here you go, please take some.


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[Assistant] I wondered what the old legend's been up to.


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[Assistant] Is that so? Well done, Sakate. However... Be warned. Don't ever disobey my orders again.


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[Assistant] I guess you'd like us to keep gathering monsters a little while longer. Bunbuku's a surprise.


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[Assistant] Trump said when people kneel for the national anthem, they should kick that son of a bitch off the field.


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[Assistant] Let me be clear about what is happening here. Trump is trying to make sure to let black people know that if we don't fall in line, we will be punished.


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[Assistant] Okay, here we go again. Okay, on our own. But before, before I do this. What's that? I'm going to stuff this gigantic jumbo marshmallow in my mouth. And maybe that'll help me relax. Ready?


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[Assistant] I don't fucking know this shit.


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[Assistant] Uh. Can I let me do it? No, it's been in my mouth. I'm gonna try to say chubby bunny. Okay.


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[Assistant] And then, uhm, oh my god.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah, I thought you were gonna say when you can get a full marshmallow in your mouth.


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[Assistant] I'm experiencing a very decadent situation. Full stabs, full marshy goodness.


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[Assistant] Okay, uhm, shine of worship, let's do it.


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[Assistant] Seems weird to me that some souls are taller than other souls.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but you think that all souls are equal. Like if you were a super short person in real life and you're like...


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[Assistant] God didn't really foresee that you'd be a Sanford and Sun guy. Don't judge me.


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[Assistant] Did you ever watch Sanford and Son? No. Oh, it was great. It was from the 70s, it's about a junkyard owner and his son.


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[Assistant] That's wild. Uhm, how does this happen?


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[Assistant] I'm a different kind of like skinny. I can get you jacked.


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[Assistant] You've been saying that for years. Yeah, but you never go to the gym with us! Also true. You gotta get jacked with us, bro! Fact-factually sound. I don't- I- I've tried to get jacked before. No, no, no. It's never happened.


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[Assistant] Good luck! Yeah, right? Kay. Was that bad? Should I have not- No, no, no, you're good.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm sure I have to irritate him by shooting an arrow at him. Cause they- all these guys love that.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Well there is, but only your horse responds.


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[Assistant] Fucking huge. How do I get up to his level?


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[Assistant] And that's from the place with which where what for I shoot him with.


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[Assistant] I would like to think that I'm extremely opinionated. Ports is something where presence of mind plays a big role. And I think that'll play a big role here today as well. So that's what we're gonna play at, presence of mind, and take this trophy home.


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[Assistant] No longer is there precious cargo of shattered humanity. That's enough!


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[Assistant] Why are you dressed like that? I came here hoping to train, but instead I was given cooking duty. Give it to me.


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[Assistant] I don't believe I have any weaknesses. You do! Huh?


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[Assistant] Stop and think for a second about your own weakness.


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[Assistant] Now that you have your driver's license and can vote, are there other everyday life goals you have?


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[Assistant] What one thing would you tell someone who wishes they were you?


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[Assistant] If you weren't singing and creating music, what career path would you be pursuing?


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[Assistant] What's the biggest difference between your creative process now versus when you're working on when we all fall asleep?


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[Assistant] What's the most important thing to remember when you're dealing with extreme amounts of pressure?


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[Assistant] Let alone, I mean, they had to be real, but, you know, besides zombies, uh, the, the women nurses? Uhm, I just gotta be honest, you know, I'm telling the truth here, I have never been to a hospital with...


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[Assistant] Not even one, or two, or three, but never that many nurses that looked that good. And I don't know where they came from, but, uh, I've never had a nurse like that serve me. But I don't know. Ban groups and communities, we don't need advertisements right now. We just want the daily rewards so we can destroy the zombies.


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[Assistant] The mission will be difficult unless you upgrade the guns.


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[Assistant] You know what? I'll try to upgrade, but it always like tries to charge you stuff that you don't want to. It's like how the game makers get more money.


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[Assistant] Dang, did the 1935 Chicago Cubs team come back to life? And, and did all of them just, you know, stop working out? Oh god, come on! Oh, they're getting close! Headshot! Haha! Boom! Come on, headshot, headshot! Boom!


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[Assistant] I like how they balance the zombies out, but they're not really distinct. Like, they all have these jerseys for all the fat sports Cubs players. And then, you know, for all the other guys, they have like the skinny hipsters with the, the plaid shirts on and everything. Although, I don't see the beards. I don't know. It's like a beard would get in the way of a zombie eating meat.


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[Assistant] Plus aren't zombies like always constipated too if they're just eating meat constantly? It's like...


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[Assistant] You know, get some fiber in your life. Geez.


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[Assistant] Speaking of fiber, you should always eat frosted flakes because they're more than good, they're GRAPE!


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[Assistant] I'm just kidding. Don't listen to me. Actually, frosted flakes have absolutely no fiber in them whatsoever. I don't think they do. But you know what it does? Miniweeds. Try out some miniweeds. They're pretty good. Alright.


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[Assistant] Oh, come on, boom, headshot! Yeah! That's what I'm talking about! Ain't no zombie gonna come past me! Ain't can pass me!


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[Assistant] So I'm in this little, small, wrecked, probably dystopian town, run amuck with zombies, and, uh,


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[Assistant] It's, it's a mess. It's a mess. I know where I am. I feel like I'm somewhere in Britain. I don't know, or, or probably South Boston. You know, it's probably South Boston somewhere. Just a, a little mess with, you know, these guys. Uhm, we, we might be able to get back to full security in the city someday. Oh yeah, headshot!


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[Assistant] BOOM! HEADSHOT! BOOM! Alright, come on, just shoot!


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[Assistant] I don't know this place, this looks, doesn't look familiar at all.


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[Assistant] None of these movies have zombies in them, so it has nothing to any real relation to, uh, this game or what I've been talking about. But I thought I'd just chuck it in there. Okay, protect the survivor, alright. Wait, what? Protect the survivor? Uh.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean, yeaah, I guess this level actually would help if I had a sniper or some kind of homing missile because, oh wait, sweet, I did it, I beat him.


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[Assistant] Oh well. Uhm. Hopefully he didn't have a family.


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[Assistant] If you did, hit the like button and subscribe to Annoying Orange Gaming. I enjoyed it. I hope you guys are doing great in life, and everything's going well. Uhm, and of course, as always, in life, dare to be different. But, more importantly than that guys, dare to be STILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


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[Assistant] I'm losing my mind. Alright. Well guys, I love ya. Later gamers!


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[Assistant] LOL, no, you had a stunningly beautiful Miss Universe winner, but you treated her like garbage. Now you have a real problem. Not only with her, but with any woman who's ever been called fat. Which is all of us.


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[Assistant] Let's quit kidding, Mr. Marsh. Abby, all those things sounded swell at breakfast.


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[Assistant] You know, everyone having a great time, and then the reality of why we're here, you just kind of go...


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[Assistant] Would he got back enough breath to talk with? Randall had his men haul us both outside.


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[Assistant] The stripped off my shirt and bound me to the waggon tongue.


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[Assistant] And Randall beat me across the back with a flat of his sabre.


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[Assistant] He was in a black fury, but a wee bit worse for wear, you might say. That stung me a bit, but he couldn't keep it up for long. The brief spurt of amusement had vanished now, and the shoulder under my hand was hard with tension. When he stopped, he turned to Jenny. One of the dragoons had hold of her.


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[Assistant] And asked her, did she want to see more, or would she rather go into the house with him and offer him better entertainment? The shoulder twitched uneasily. I couldn't move much, but I shouted to her that I wasn't hurt. And I wasn't. Too much. And she was not to go with him. Not if they cut my throat before her eyes. They were holding her behind me so I couldn't see. But from the sound of it, she spat in his face. She must have done.


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[Assistant] Because next thing I knew, he'd grabbed the handful of my hair, pulled my head back, and set his knife against my throat. Have a mind to take you at your suggestion, Randall had said through his teeth.


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[Assistant] And the pattern of spots my blood was leaking in the dust under the wagon.


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[Assistant] His tone was almost dreamy, and I realized that from fatigue and pain, he'd lapsed into something like a hypnotic state. He might not even remember that I was there. I need to call out to my sister.


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[Assistant] To tell her that I'd much prefer to die than have her dishonor herself with such scum.


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[Assistant] Randall took the dagger from my throat though, thrust the blade between my teeth so I could knock all out.


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[Assistant] And rubbed a large hand tiredly across the back of his neck.


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[Assistant] She went with him, he said abruptly. She thought he would kill me and perhaps she was right. After that, I dinna ken what happened.


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[Assistant] One of the dragoons hit me in the head with a stock of his musket when I walked.


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[Assistant] I was thrust up in the wagon with the chickens jolting down the road toward Fort William. I see. I said quietly. I'm sorry. It must have been terrible for you.


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[Assistant] He smiled suddenly, the haze of fatigue gone. Oh aye.


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[Assistant] Chicken's a very poor company, especially on a long journey. Realizing that the dressing was completed.


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[Assistant] He hunched the shoulder experimentally, wincing as he did so. Don't do that! I said in alarm. You really mustn't move it. In fact,


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[Assistant] I glanced at the table to be sure there were some strips of dry fabric left.


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[Assistant] I'm going to strap that arm to your side. Hold still.


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[Assistant] So, uh, yeah, I'm working on somewhere between HCI and graphics. I try to balance between these two fields.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, for HCI, I want to make computers or computer systems easier to use. And in computer graphics, I'm more interested in like, uhm, 3D shape processing and also communications using graphics.


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[Assistant] So, uh, yeaah, this is very general discussion, but this society today is a mass production, mass consumption, and we do see the same thing all over the world. I see IKEA shops everywhere, in US, in Japan, or China, or Europe, the same thing. And also, yeaah, same.


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[Assistant] Yeah, garment stores or electronics, well, it's the same cars. And yeah, this may be efficient, but I don't think it's very interesting. So one possible future vision is that everybody and the users become designers and producers, and then they create things to satisfy their own needs.


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[Assistant] And obviously, this is not really a new vision. Many people say the same thing using different keywords, like computer-generated content, or ProSumo, or the third or fourth industry evolution. And there are already existing platforms to support this kind of activity, like 3D printing or laser cutting.


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[Assistant] And then, uh, let me go more into details.


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[Assistant] The pipeline of computational design is like this. Users give requests to the computer, and then the computer does some logic, like optimization or something, and then you will get something, result.


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[Assistant] And we are talking about Artifact. Artifact can be graphics, like image and shapes in computers, or this can be a physical object, like garments or chairs or anything. And then the computational tool can be optimization, simulation, machine learning.


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[Assistant] However, so in this typical traditional view, not much interaction after system gets requests.


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[Assistant] And there are certain benefits in this way of doing compared to a fully automatic one. The first one, most importantly is we want to support creative exploration, right? You know, people not really knows what they really want at the beginning. So it's very difficult to give requirements clearly before you start working on it. So that's, uh,


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[Assistant] A vision behind them. So the first block of project is, uh,


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[Assistant] The idea is like this, computer aided design, designing something in computer is not new. People design everything in computers today. But still,


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[Assistant] So, uh, if you want to design a flash store, you have to consider both 2D pattern and then resulting 3D shape, which may be easy for experienced people, but for novice users, for kids, it's very difficult. So we integrate


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[Assistant] So uhm, it's fine. So the interface is taken from what's happening.


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[Assistant] The interface is taken from a sketching interface modeling one. So you sketch something and then you will get a 3D shape here. But at the same time, system also generates, automatically generates 2D cross pattern for creating this stuffed animal. So internally, we run some basic simulation to predict the 3D shape taken from this 2D pattern.


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[Assistant] And then we implemented a couple gestural interactions to get 3D shape, and then you eventually get reasonable stuffed animal here, 3D one, and then also you get a 2D pattern. So after finishing the design, you can print this pattern and then cut cross


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[Assistant] Material and stick together and push cotton in it and then you will get a 3D shape.


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[Assistant] And then you eventually get reasonable 3D shape. And then after spending some hours, then you get physical stuffed animal as well. And using the same pattern, you can also make a big balloon, you will see here.


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[Assistant] We provided, uh, these two to kids and they successfully, uh, generated their own customized one-of-a-kind stuffed animals.


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[Assistant] Okay, and we apply the same idea to a garment design. The idea is exactly the same. The user continuously edits the 2D pattern and the system continuously presents a simulation result to the user.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, the user added to the garment pattern here and the system continuously provides prediction in the, in the draping simulation result.


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[Assistant] So additionally, this kind of design is done physically, you know, people cut clothes and they put it on a mannequin and this is the result and go back to the, uh, pattern. But here,


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[Assistant] You can just continuously see the result of winkles. If it's too tight, it's loose here, and then you get immediate feedback. If it's too short, and then it gets, you know, the shape, and you get immediately, get the result.


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[Assistant] So maybe trivial or easy to... Experts may not need this, but you know, novice, non-experienced user can't imagine this in their heads, but this kind of visualization is very helpful.


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[Assistant] Okay, let me move on. So, uh, this is, uh, yeaah, again another craft work. Suppose you want to design a special customized paper glider. And again, I...


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[Assistant] So the first one is a failure case. So if you design an arbitrary airplane, it doesn't fly, it just drops. And it's very hard to design. But here is the result using our system. We designed an armadillo airplane and then you get really fly well. And so that's the result.


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[Assistant] And our design tool is like this. The same idea. So user interactively edit the shape of wing and attachment angle positions. And then here is a...


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[Assistant] And this many lines, many curves indicate variations, you know, this is a hand thrown glider, so we consider, you know, it may be better to consider multiple trajectories at the same time to see variations.


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[Assistant] And user basically edit the wing and the shape, body shape, looking at the simulation result so that it actually flies really well. Yea, it's getting better, it flies better. And then you change the shape and you also change the position on the shape.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so the front wing is manually controlled and this one is automatically controlled. And then system is always, uh, yeah, reasonable shape. This is a weight.


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[Assistant] So yeah, after getting a design, it's easy to fabricate. Just send data to a laser cutter and then you will get a shape.


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[Assistant] Also we tested, actually tried standard fluid dynamic simulation for this project at the beginning. But it was way too slow, right? There is no...


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[Assistant] Simulation and then we get this data-driven approach for quick prediction of flight trajectory.