societal trends the uh societal trends and and modern living and less of technology, parents , increasingly either taking a well for parents who are taking a much more stricter role in taking care of the kids I don't think cyber bullying would be a uh major issue but for parents were more Laissez-Faire and hands off


uh I think this would be a problem, but so in that sense I think it's more of, from adult supervision and less of technology actually, uh and in fact technology does does help because you actually have supervisory tools now uh it's possible to monitor what's going on for the children social media accounts or even to fence it off and have uh kids use a


, child friendly social media account that maybe uh the parents and educators can , uh, can have a peeking once in awhile , of course this may or may not be out there in the market right now but it's something that technology can come in and plug the gaps is something that I think it's certainly implementable ah


oh you have a third point


ya but I think it's supervision right so it's not just the feedback from the child, from the uh from the child I'm I'm assuming it's but looking at younger kids rather than teenagers


if you looking at the child supervision actually also means, uh parental, guidance and, restrictions on access, like for example you have the netflix and you have a child restricted access


or uh you know when you're watching err, the internet with the kids is sur~surfing the internet I think parents generally, !wow! yes on one hand let the kid serve and on the other hand they'll keep an eye on what kids served so there will be restrictions and there'll be supervision lah


ya so I think that aspect has to be considered if you talking about teenager level teenager level I think anything goes ah even if you don't have social media you'll have text and what's app you have anything you have a even before this you have the gossip groups it's I mean it's like mean girls


it's a you you can't stop that network yeah whether it's online whether it's on the phone whether it's actually a physical network, it's a is it's a problem as old as time {ah], , well probably not as old as time but that problem has been long standing


yeah but well okay on on that social media but I mean let's look at a particular benefit is that well it keeps everyone connected, okay and you can actually connect with long lost friends you can connect with people that you have no time for physical meet up more even now work from home, this is the biggest benefit to society you're where in time of the the plague essentially and we are still able to function because we have access to technology


uh even this itself is a facilitated by technology so take that yeah without technology this would not even happen so ya you see this is actually a a big pro yeah


oh okay


part two debate topic two


okay so I think for something along the lines of stem cells , first of all I think cancer treatments are still, still very traditionally uh dominant by , treatments that work uh that have proven to work and


the margin for error is very, thin, so it's always slash and burn for cancers they will cut out the cancer and then they burn it essentially with radiation or chemo, so for that you know uh ethical concerns are essentially nil


okay of course we're talking about the, the survival rates and all this and this has been uh probably the best option, uh stem cells is new a very very new area and I think, , uh the effectiveness is still very very much uh big question mark


err so, I don't see that as a plus point it's a lot of things held out hope for treatment , but, as with a lot of err science out of ten that hold up great hope as the media always likes to play up


but talking about success rate of less than even nine uh less than even one out of ten, uh for successful medical treatments, okay lot of it actually ends up as the end and that's just the nature of science so even if you accelerated it may not uh go down the path that we we want uh I mean we need to have the ethical concerns uh not just in whether you know it's a


what you call it uh whether is a pro life thing or anti life thing oh it's not anti life pro life thing on determining when is this stage of uh embryo uh considered a living thing kind of problem but it's also ethical concerns as in uh whether, patient testing human trials how far can we push it how early can we do it


there have been disastrous uh situations where we have human trials and it has ended horribly for uh the participants who healthy, true no fault of their own uh it was actually due to problems in uh the administration of test


, another topic I mean on a similar topic of the stem cells if we look at uh, , the court blood banking, you know baby cord blood banking this is actually a very big industry and is marketed as you know you can harvest a baby stem cells for future stem cell treatments


and, the reality is stem cell treatments for babies uh for for let's say infants even when they grow up to be teens stem cell treatment is actually very very experimental, uh the efficiency they the efficacy and all this is highly in doubt


and in fact, stem cell research has been on the win because is too exotic and too expensive and cannot be applied uh across everybody, is highly specialized to an individual you harvest the stem cells stem cells for that individual and he used the treatment for that individual only so in terms of let's say


uh you know you look if you look at the the utility of it the utility of, going down this route of research it's a very narrow utility, you save one person from this one specialized treatment


uh ya it's not something like you develop a a a treatment method that can be you applies universally across all uh patients of this kind of illness, so the research for that I think has been on the vain


uh and what, , cord blood banking which is already constrained by some ethical concerns is highly unethical because of the way is marketed, it's essentially a money making uh enterprise money grubbing enterprise


that uh the, companies are using fear to get uh the parents to buy in so you actually have an example of a research uh a science a technology use that's not constrain enough by ethical concerns and is


is a I think is causing greater harm than good so, yeah I think ethical concerns are have to be imposed on scientific research uh otherwise you're capitalistic of uh, uh, uh drives will come in


uh at expense of a, science even uh or even at worst uh patient welfare, ya so, I would say that yes you need, uh


constraints ah you need a certain rules in place uh otherwise commercial interest will kick in otherwise personal self interests will kick in, yeah just like why for science research there is always an ethics board there's always a the peer reviewed to keep each other in check so that there's no


falsifications there's no pushing off certain agendas there's no uh, how to say , there's no links to a corporate benefits, so all these are also uh ethics yeah


that need to be addressed , (hmm), ya so in short I think , they needs to be uh, guidelines that needs to be, uh checks, and uh we cannot just allow a situation where science will run faster if there were no restrictions


uh ya , that would be quite lawless and I don't think even uh with with somebody some uh situation where there's no guidelines uh the science that comes out of it may not even be


uh this I'd like to just point out that , stem cell research work is on a is on the win or whether is not as uh the focus no longer there is because of uh it's not because of a at a a problem a constraint or ethics but I think is a, the problem is actually more of economics


uh in efficiencies it cannot be widely applied uh to multiple individuals but it's rather highly individualized treatment, , uh so the cost is high so that's a problem of economics and and efficiencies , as for you know scientists wanting to do


research for the greater good, I don't think that's always the case I think that history is replete with a a scientist who have, have, gain their data for personal gain and glory uh once again it's a, it's a matter of ethics they need that's why we have ethics boards and guidelines so if you let it have free rein your data may not even be useful because uh


uh , not every very few people are altruistic ah, okay your capitalistic concerns will always creep in uh because I think that is just human , , sorry so on the last point about crisper and uh GMO uh I think the concern is uh it's also valid you need to have that ethics and guidelines I mean let's look at uh


uh, a big concern of GMO is that you're able to, uh alter the characteristics of uh food crops uh relatively quick you don't have to breed it in over you know years and see the effects slowly take place over the years this is like almost instant but not instant but you know within a generation or two


uh and then we're looking at uh the ability to implement it and mass, so that accelerated process is a worry if you have let's say err a breed, a super efficient corn


but it's a sterile, okay or it may, grow like a weed and strangled other crops you may end up having corn everywhere, uh it is a possibility no matter how big or small is a possibility that we have to entertain and is a possibility where we have to take precautions lah so it is a a a thing of like you know guess it's a it's a great gain but


there is that chance where can be catastrophic disaster if that's the case he don't want to take that chance of a catastrophic catastrophic disaster , so you still have that guidelines just you know the world now is not to say that you know there's no absolutely no GMO there's no uh genetically modified things at all or any treatments that's like totally out it's


uh allowed this but we need to be mindful of these things we need to be careful of these things and not let it you know just go, uh unfettered okay, uh crisper and all this I think the


biggest concerns the ones that are played out in media is like you know we shouldn't uh alter anything that's human or alter anything that's uh you know, natural in that sense , uh but it's still being used, it's still being used for science it's still being used for research uh I think no one have an issue if they use CRISPR to treat illnesses like sickle cell


I think people will have an issue if uh they using technology to let say make a make my baby blue because I think blue's a great color and uh can you imagine the ethical concerns the harm that will do that will bring to this child's life in the future , so


ya is once again uh it should be constrained by ethical concerns because the, the, we need rules and guidelines


yes uh yeah definitely I think it's possible , we do have uh progress in in in these technologies uh CRISPR still being used in fact CRISPR is use many uh a big part of is used for your


food crops lah uh not only food crops ah but also in the breeding of animals oh, so it it is useful uh and it has it still being research and there's still progress being made lah so, , uh I think definitely is possible, uh and of course you know these things are not absolutes I'm pretty sure now during the COVID nineteen when they uh rushing out a vaccine a lot of previous ethical restraints would be


uh put on hold because , you have to out you have to weigh the benefits versus the, uh the pros and cons ah , the pros is that yes you know ethical concerns is uh we want to make sure is done properly make sure that you know no one is harmed on the other hand they have to weigh the odd uh the bad you know the cons that if you know if we have too much limitations people are dying by the day


the COVID nineteen so it's like, we'll have to take some chances, okay if that's the case then your ethics concerns can be, relaxed uh during extenuating uh situation


so it's a matter of uh it's not a black and white is not a yes or no it's a matter of calibrating uh what is (hmm), what is good what is uh what will give the greatest benefits at that point in time and that's why it's often uh always being reviewed


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ya purported medical uses uh it's a I think is highly skeptical uh that we do have a lot of other pharmacological uh substances that, can help an individual already I think marijuana is a is a preference uh in treating uh whatever disorders muscle spasms and all these uh


I mean for one uh a lot of people already self medicate by smoking for whatever reasons that they have uh whatever ailments so it is they already, have a a a avenue for that


uh I'm not going to say whether smoking is more , beneficial or, more harmful than marijuana but the reality is this is the status quo that uh people do self medicate with smoking but you know what they do actually have access to other medicines for their conditions but it's a lot of the cases I think uh it's it's a matter of choice


uh, to self medicate with well cigarettes, (ppc) uh, and yes it it can be legalized it can be used like you know like opioids and all this but that's the thing you know you already have opioids you already have medicines that can be dispensed and prescribed to treat uh


well any any any pain necessary uh we have different classes of pain, uh, pain relief uh medicines and, the prime example in singapore we have a, obviously be crackdown very high on marijuana so the medical


benefits of marijuana it's actually not highlighted as much uh and people get by people get, people survived just fine on it we will live with the pain people, uh have alternative ways to relieve the pain,


uh so it may be more of a mind over matter, uh in in this case, err, I I would think in some a lot of cases is actually a matter of preference , there was also another case uh and another thing to consider is that you know you can legalize it you can make it prescription base but there's also a problem because of the


, popular associations of marijuana as a recreational drug, so if you, dispensed it as a medicine, it will be traded on the back on and in an underground market


so it will lead to abuse, ya I mean, yup there's a concern lah because is seen as a uh, , as a recreational drug as a, cool drug


so it will be traded yeah, I mean compared to let's say painkillers that you dispense, it can give you a high it can give you a nice floating sensation or even certain drugs and even energize you but no one's gonna be trading those because, you don't read about it you don't hear about it and uh you know in movies


so there's there's no cool effect of let's say uh, uh, you know teenagers going , right I want to try marijuana yeah that's that's gonna be a problem they're not they're not going to go okay let's try uh, what you called it #Fen Tao#


which uh the opioid is a that's a fitting america, at here they're not gonna do it because you know it's not import culture is not a cool thing, , yeah so and and so the other problem is that you know you have uh these uh


yeah, uh marijuana and all these if let's say uh, err, it's it's it's allowed, them, after taking this uh, it the the popular argument is that it's a gateway drug lah they would then go on to try other mind altering substances lah


, your mushrooms or your, a harder harder drugs so, ya uh and also the other problem the other major problem is that once you legalize it marijuana it's a plant, it's not something that you need to that you have to synthesize in the lab you can literally grow it


so it will become a lot harder to, hack, this genie once it's been let out of the box, yeah and yeah we we yeah it's it's not that hard to grow marijuana I mean it's hard but


but if you are growing one small pond for yourself use is not that hard uh yeah the only reason why the guy in Yishun got buster is because the, I think his housemates didn't like him ah, , yeah, so yeah I think uh (mmhmm)


(mmhmm)


I think you know the medicinal benefits I think a lot of this hinges on the medicinal benefits and the medical benefits is usually pain relief uh and I think that is not a good enough argument because there are plenty of other drugs out there medicinal drugs that can provide that pain relief uh in fact let's let's look at a


uh, and an good example that that would be like a hard drug actually, there is a proof of medicinal use because you know what separates a drug from a cure is the dosage right so cocaine morphine basically, it's a medicinal drug it's used for extreme pain relief when is it given end stage of life


or if you're bleeding on a battlefield lah so, those at those stages use yes you it calls for this, but marijuana doesn't give that level of pain relief is it able to uh improve that quality of life to that extend is it such a critical powerful drug that can relieve that much pain


err I I don't think it is, so even if you distill it down to uh you know not to not to be smoked but you know in a liquid condensed form uh you really have something on the market that's tightly controlled that has worked and has better uh efficacy


okay we're talking about cocaine like morphine you know is from the same derivative, same uh chemical derivative, so we're talking about morphine being administered as a medical drug uh is tightly controlled and used in certain situations because, it is extremely good in what it does and I don't think marijuana is in that level not not at that level uh if let's say you sell it and extracts uh for general pain relief


uh what will happen is, kids adults, people enterprising they will be able to extract that and change it to a form that smoke-able, liquid, you're going to it's going to be found in vapes


in e-cigarettes, it's a very simple thing of incorporating it, uh I don't think is that hard you just you can just you know pulling out the alcohol this uh diluted down and , put it into uh the liquid that we smoke , let's say if it's on a pill form is easy to crush it down the powder and yeah essentially the burning in smoking


uh these people would, innovate have find ways around that and the reason why do go to the extent is because popular culture plays a big part it is a, cool drug uh it is gateway drug people desire for it you don't go to a party and people go !hey! I have some cocaine you want to try it uh teens will go no because you know cocaine has a very very bad rap in popular culture


uh, but they'll go !hey! got some like weed you wanna smoke it then it's like this is not weed but what's the derivative similar, and then they will be eager to try because it's been played by the media to be a cool drug that does no harm whatsoever, yeah and the thing is


once, you get used to that you know you actually can build up a psychological uh, dependence on this and eventually if you let's say you don't get access to this you will crave for something else, and uh that is a problem yeah


okay before even goes to a to start the trash this is a very very weak argument of the a economic benefits right I'd like to point out that yes you know you gonna create jobs in farming for farming the plant but seriously you're talking about the country here right obviously singapore how you going to farm how you going to find space to farm marijuana


we wouldn't even have space to go and farm vegetables and fruits already it's not gonna happen man we don't have the space for that, but really closing of farms, so that that's a very weak argument anyway in terms of economy you know what I'll just give you another example for this okay so you know you want to bring in revenue you basically can bring in a vice and you tax it severely


okay you want to bring in greater revenue sure let online gambling be a main thing here be a mainstream thing let singapore be the hub for gambling you going to bring lots of revenue you going to create jobs you going to have crop beers you going to have a dealers you going to have your junket, operators you going to have the casinos you know probably all these will boom you're going to have loan collect a debt collectors uh will be a bludgeoning industry but who will suffer no


you know the maybe, a few percent small percentage of the population who are hardcore gamblers and their families you know is it a small price is it that maybe that's a small price to pay for you know generally a bigger tax receipts from a you know letting these vices in maybe a little bit of organised crime but you know what's the what's the odd person that gets hit on the street so no


come on that sounds ridiculous isn't it so yes you have economic benefits once you you allow uh, I would say uh, activities that involve sin, so it's a sin yeah and I don't think that's a good argument at all to entertain


so yes of course you know is a popular drug uh when Colorado you know uh is it, Colorado that legalized it then yeah you're gonna have other people from other states flocking in this is like yes I can smoke at here and then of course their their earnings would go up and then they'll bring the problems back home, oh okay time's up !yay!


okay so uh now is my turn uh maybe I should also uh put up my own stand as well so why do I uh feel that uh sex work should be illegal so I have three points so first is definitely with concern with the elite the the more of like the shady side of


uh sex work so maybe we define sex work as something like you using my uh you are you are using monetary gains or service gains to to in exchange of your sexual services so uh with with regards to that right so there are there are when we when you are where we are


talking about sex there's always the potential of sexually transmitted disease where uh it is still very rave, it is still raving around especially with aids which is works, still very threatening and is still considered as a pandemic level and of course uh then the second thing for why it should be illegal is that uh human trafficking is also part of the uh is more kind of like the the the vibrant okay


sex work is like a by-product from uh human trafficking over here so if there isn't any if you cut off the demand for, uh sex work means human trafficking is also reduced a lot, then the last one will be under money laundering also considered as part of a by-product I mean sex work is also maybe is also a tool for money laundering purposes as well


then uh made so these are my three points so first is to guard against uh the spread of STD second will be for human trafficking and third will be for money laundering, and now maybe I just uh counter uh using point on uh it is consider it still considered a normal job and uh there should be protection to the broad uh to the people who are uh engaging in sex uh using sex as a


engagement uh as a uh as a form of services or monetary purposes to me I think that for I I don't think that it is, it is a job that is of the same level with like let's say a normal hawker a normal lawyer a doctor which is kind of like contributing to the society contributing uh economically and all all into the community work lah and uh


I'm not too sure how is this uh considered the same kind of recognition that that, that can actually warrants uh the the protection of all the sex workers itself over here then


to me I don't think sex work I I don't think sex work is actually a glamorous work to do and is always force by , it's always forced onto people who are not willing to be in this job then uh I believe it should I don't have a stats for it but it's almost like may be more than fifty percent of the people is


not willing to it is unwilling workers but its always subjected, to to to to


human trafficking money laundering


yup using so uh ya uh, uh okay so so if let's say you were to be taking on the on the side of making uh sex work legal okay if you are talking about


fulfilling our primal desire to actually uh to actually fulfill the sex sexual desire itself over here the thing is that back then there isn't uh when over there


uh in terms of hierarchy I think is still very strong but I believe in over here in uh, I don't uh maybe if let's say I were to just restrict to singapore I believe everyone should be equal to the job itself over here I don't believe that there should be any appeal for people to actually go into the sex industry and uh I mean I feel that it is not


that relevant if you talking about uh applying the the the previous world uh, application of uh maybe sex work uh to the current society especially right now uh over here in the uh in the modern world I believe we can still find certain job fulfillment


besides uh sex work and I believe it should be strongly discouraged lah uh for the for uh to actually go and legalise uh sex is almost like glorifying uh how sex work uh glorifying sex work as a as a proper job


and in terms of uh in the asia society as like us we are still very conservative in our in in in our mindset, and uh we are still not very open to uh more of like western believe where sex should be


something more of like a rights it is still very subjected to a lot the societies uh uh what we call that prejudice and we want it we want it to us I think we still want to uh protect our children from uh have to to succumb into this


uh into this job this kind of uh the this kind of job realm so I don't think legalising this thing will actually be uh effective way to to move the society forward lah so I believe that legalising will actually, more uh uh more


maybe maybe it is still not the correct I I don't ever feel that there is actually a correct time to actually legalise sex uh work itself, sorry I'm not too sure whether if I got answer your uh count counter your your point but uh


ya correct to to me I just feel that uh in terms of sex work it is, still not uh uh uh is still not a job that that warrants the the the energy of the government to actually uh to focus on because I believe there is still other other areas that needs to be legalised as compared to uh doing uh legalisation of sex work


uh I believe that you uh also provide really very very uh uh valid points in a more in a in a economic sense where it could actually uh more of like uh smoothen uh business transactions


in terms of uh providing uh sexual services to to ensure that certain deals or maybe more of like uh what we call that uh I mean it keeping your PR relationship strong, but obviously uh over here this is where if let's say we actually make


uh make sex work as a legalised form of entertainment definitely you are generating demands for, for for such job and as as people usually connote uh are always annotate sex work as something that is not glorified already


so businesses that actually supply these uh so called uh providing the the supply of uh sex workers they will be driven to, get more sex workers because it it only benefits them to to to to bring more of these people to drive their businesses now if you are drive now when your actually increasing the demand supply them


you have to meet the demand so this will actually do more uh that that means in terms of the implication for my second and my third point in terms of human trafficking and money laundering it is uh it is if it would build even more


that that there's even more rooms for human trafficking and money laundering to even happen which is already a very uh uh depressing event, that is facing throughout the whole world, uh as you can recall uh definitely I'm not just talking about uh sex workers but in terms of human trafficking where if you can remember back then uh I think it's not too long ago UK


that was these uh group of family uh uh from vietnam they were actually being sealed inside the container and they are being trapped there for very long until they are being discovered so, in eventually if people from those poorer countries


trying to search for better jobs and in the end because of uh legalising the sex work you are uh inevitably trying to give more power to those people who are already very powerful to uh to actually bring in people who are vulnerable in the poorer countries


so uh as you know that human trafficking is actually a very terrible uh uh that is a terrible trend where it is still ongoing even though with our very tight borders, human trafficking is still everywhere and we don't want, to uh


we we really don't want to see such uh the the legalisation of sex uh work to further amplify the the the the the undesirable consequences of uh human trafficking and uh, money laundering itself over here lah okay maybe talk touching about money laundering so when you are legalising uh sex work so there is the tendency where uh people will use their their dirty money


who actually purchase such uh such services and then uh this will considered as a legal transaction, therefore you are encouraging more layering and uh in terms of the money being transacted is even easier for the for for for the for the shadier side of the world the under lords or people who are doing money laundry is even if you give them another way to legalise


their proceeds from let's say selling drugs or whatsoever so, legalising sex work is really uh it comes with these consequences where I believe in terms of just uh uh having even stricter


uh regulations in terms of uh human trafficking or in terms of money laundering because money laundering is itself is already a very tedious, job and it's not easy to detect so to me it when you are doing uh legalising of sex work you are cascading into more serious uh implication to you are making human trafficking and money laundering uh even tougher uh


problems to tackle so, to me I think it is absolutely not a viable uh way to actually even do legalisation of sex work


okay, uh part two debate debate topic two


sorry ya #yu sing# I cannot really hear you properly is ya very Mafan ya ya ya ya this is much better ya correct don't mind if you can reiterate your point again I'm so sorry


okay so , now the thing is actually for your points uh I'm still trying to grasp the your your your your points because uh the first is the the the sound recordings is not still not say very well and but


I do uh I uh please please let me know if uh I got point out your your points correctly I'm just at let I'm just only I'm probably only capture a little bit so what I what I hear is about, uh generating good good feeling for the whole society of singapore and uh also in terms of uh providing good values uh like you can also


also provide more support uh uh for for for for those people who are vulnerable or indeed of charitable work and uh also instilling the very good values like uh kindness care to the society


I don't know if I did capture your points correctly is that correct, okay okay so uh back to me so the thing is uh uh in in a society where, for charitable work it's ya I type already I type thanks


so uh to me I think charitable uh charity work itself uh if you are made it into compulsory it doesn't called charity work anymore, regardless charity work means you are actually suppose to uh be out from your uh from from your own initiative and not people forcing


you or uh any kind of connotation in terms of financial uh financial penalty to to a person who doesn't do charity work itself where if let's say you are doing compulsory work uh then it, doesn't really serve the the the the the meaning of charity


because when people going for charity work they must have the heart to help and for people who are uh who who are not, who who doesn't have the heart doesn't have the scale to uh to to actually serve the people who are in need is tend to do the work more poorly where


uh you can also think of the productivity of the the work done as compared to a fully permitted uh uh person who was who is into charity work wholeheartedly uh of course I do not have the figures as to whether if a half hearted person as compared to a full hearted person


doing into charity work itself but definitely you can think of it as like uh as compared to taking care of your own parents who may need help you are taking care of other people's family definitely you will still pay more time in terms of uh


uh taking care of your own family as compared to uh another person to me I think making compulsory charity work defeats the purpose itself in the name of charity work I think is more of doing community, work instead where I mean like


is it it it defeats the purpose ah of causing a charity work now of course uh in terms of uh instilling good values again we do not have a barometer in terms of uh how how much of a good value has been uh invested into


uh get has directly translated into anything tangible in the society uh of course we do also have that happiness uh index to so called measure this intangibles but again uh it is very up to it is again up are subjected to a lot of


uh critical views as well now uh also I think that in terms of uh the if, in terms of efficiency when you are doing charity work if you are making things compulsory means people are, uh are going to spend at least maybe an hour of the time and in terms of the duration that you are committing the person into the job


is it some some charity work requires you the whole day so if let's say you are to set something like a one hour per week uh it it doesn't really amount much to that does it really contribute a lot to to to to to uh individual or even to a society


I don't think that is even that that doesn't even make sense if let's say you want people to actually do commitment work on a weekly basis one one day per week it is, it you are actually robbing there it it I think it also breach into the human uh in terms of the uh human rights where you are you are I mean it's like you're against the I mean it is


I think it is a human right for you to choose what you want to do and, by making something compulsory unless it is tagged to something survival uh something there is the survival of the nation like if you are talking about national service it is compulsory for you to do because it is against uh it is to consider as a deterrent force to the other uh other


other nations but charity charity work do not have such a effect uh on the person and it can be considered as a waste of time to to to individuals where it can actually contribute somewhere that is, more efficient for them to to contribute to the society


so to me I think compulsory work it is uh charity work should not be compulsory based on two points which is lower efficiency at in terms of the the the the heart, to do things it is totally different as compared to somebody who is fully committed into a charity work so back to you #yu sing# maybe if you have anything to counter


ya ya ya I I keep tapping yup yes


yup tap on my phone already I just keep tapping so yup uh okay so uh you said that actually put


charity work which I actually I actually agree for younger people to actually work uh for young people to be exposed into charity work where you make it kind of like compulsory for them fulfilling uh hours of their charity work itself now the


to me I think that uh in some ways or another we cannot totally disagree that charity work should not be uh should should not be uh I mean it should be compulsory in one way or another but in terms of


in terms of the charity work in terms of compulsory for other age group itself over here or even to people who are you said, disadvantage is that correct just now you were saying that even disadvantage uh people can also add meaning into their into their uh where charity work can be a a kind of job to them is that correct


okay I click already part three debate topic three


okay so uh okay your points uh I think is more on the psychological uh uh going into the psychology or of uh maybe in terms of serial killers


where uh ya uh, there maybe some truth in it where some uh the psychology of the serial killers that are that maybe, uh breaching onto excitement in terms of uh avoiding the the the death penalty but uh to me I think that death penalty also it it gives more of like uh a sense of safety for uh for


for people to to be aware that uh for such harsh uh penalty itself to be in place it creates more of a sense of uh, a security and and uh believe that the the people who are deserve to be uh to who deserve the job ya or deserve the hanging the rope the snooze


uh uh uh uh actually out of this society and plus uh also creates a sense of uh is a safeguard towards uh such people as well uh we cannot stop those people who think that uh that escaping death penalty is a thrill


but similarly also that if let's say you don't implement death penalty you give them lifelong a life lifelong imprisonment uh it it it is also still I think uh equally or even a longer pain for the, for for the for for the prisoners or it to to to or even to the to the current system to actually hold all these number of uh uh


uh serial killers or people who are not mentally sound to to to be out in a society causing danger to me I think that uh it it, why death penalty is in a in a more uh maybe I can just talk about in terms of the economic sense


where technically you are using taxpayers money to actually uh withhold all these people into the prisons you will need to actually build more prisons to actually accommodate more people if let's say you were to exchange with something like uh life at uh uh life


imprisonment which technically you can you can actually be in prison for fifteen years and you can be out or twenty years you can also be out now the thing is how how it how efficient can uh, uh education be in amending those people who are like already mentally unsound and how how uh we again we do not know what is the the full effects of those people who actually killed someone and of course those people who actually


those people who actually like do uh also very terrible crimes like uh drug trafficking or uh human trafficking, or manslaughter or or or scenes that are or crimes that are are that there are dangerously enough


to be to be considered uh brave enough that warrants the the the death penalty I mean to me that it doesn't make economic sense for us to actually pay people to actually stay inside there and eventually also pay people to to using our tax money


to support these people and also uh uh allowing those psychiatrist or you're the those educators over there to help, these people it because I believe that the society have other people who are marginal like uh and marginalised that are that actually require more help than all these people who actually terms of death penalty it is also more of like a


I would say it is also kind of like uh a way to also uh counter terrorism as well because uh if if those terrorists, there to uh commit any any crimes over here in singapore I believe there there there should be also a consideration of putting them to death if let's say they are of like of a of a what you call that in terms of the the they are like the nucleus


of a of a certain uh terrorists splinter group itself over here ya to me I think death penalties should not be abolish as a way of uh deterrant and I don't think that uh I don't think in terms of other ways of punishment is uh


uh I don't think it makes economic sense and uh of course it also help to sooth, the the anger and and the and a uh consolation of the people who whose whose parents uh relatives are are grieving of the the loss of their their loved ones it on it almost feels like


that is a uh more of like a poetic justice were a life should be paid with a life itself over here so to me I think it should not be abolish based on thus, economic factor and second deterrent factor and a sense of safeguard for the uh for the nation a a sense of safety that people don't go around and start


start killing people or doing drugs around and also thirdly uh it is more of like uh uh I think it justify a way to soothe the feelings, or the the the grief of the of the loved ones who lost the the who lost their victim the victor their loved ones ah through murder or through trafficking or even uh those people who are who are negatively impacted by drug trafficking or human trafficking


ya ya ya type already


ya I type already ya, uh okay so I believe #yu sing# has uh give given a really very uh compelling case uh where death that death penalty itself over here is uh may not be as effective as uh as a way of


uh uh to to to deter maybe terrorists uh, people who are who who maybe in need of uh the that's why they're actually committed kidnapping and all these things and try to understand the psychology of those people who committed those crimes


now the thing is what if those people who never repent, how about those people I mean in terms of there must be some trigger points that has that leads to a person to actually do killing kidnapping


and uh all of these things even if they're out, how how much support do they do do they I mean if let's say you want them to be integrated back in the society it's still really takes a lot a lot of uh courage and a lot of supportive members to to to to to to support all these people


if you think or if you think of it this way if let's say you think of a serial killer getting out itself, and the committee already know of your sinister act itself over here do you even think that you have a chance to even live in the to live in this


in this society and don't talk about moving overseas you are already you're technically broke because you are you don't even have any financial support so, to me I think death is at uh death would actually serve more of uh more gracious way


to to to to, to end the the to to to, end will the arduous more more arduous road ahead itself over here, and uh to me I think it uh, death death itself in inevitably uh is is something that it it is still inherit it is still strikes a inherent fear to add to everyone is out over here you if


by abolishing death you are tried you you can actually even start tilting people, people into committing crimes so that they can actually been substantially supported by the government they can live there, uh they can they they can actually live inside the prison anytime they want and by just killing somebody and you know it it is it also created another cycle aware people though they they just want to be in the prison and they just


they can just take the joy of killing somebody and still live their life in the prison forever, so it is still also not a healthy way of uh promoting it is just another psychology that I think you also on, uh of course uh that is a there's always the good there is always the generate the good thing but how many percentage of this


uh good of the prisoners actually came out and become do good to the society ultimately I think is still not a very large uh not a very large percentage lah ya so ya I think I just conclude my argument over here


what's on my phone debate topic one


thank you for here I think that the sex work should be legal in singapore and in all every parts of the world because I think that six sex work is also a job it is a kind of, job that should not be discriminated across the world because it is a career and it is legalised I do agree that sometimes sex work there's a lot of illegal cases which is not registered with governments et cetera and often


these types of illegal one will result a lot of diseases such as raise of aids, et cetera to the victims and to the patroniser, so I think as long as sex work, is registered with the government that it is legalised


and, is uh in accordance with the law of the day I don't see any issue that six work sex work should not be legalised yup what do you think benjamin


can I ask you what is your second points again, the second point, third points is the, money laundry okay got it got it okay sure sure thank you for sharing on your part I totally agree, with you that the, such the first point is sex transmitted disease that should be avoided


and especially for sex work that is not registered with, is illegal, I totally understand from that point, we need to make it safe, now in terms of money laundering, I don't agree that point as because many times


sex work it's actually, a point of whereby both parties are willing parties, as long as it does not necessary all the times it resulted in human check trafficking money laundering, I feel that as long as, both party is a willing party and it is


under the state law that oh, this is actually legalised in a state I don't foresee any such issues as long as they play protective measures such such as wearing the necessary preventive like condoms et cetera


all of these actually, all all of this actually, ya all of these actually means, something critical in the in the industry whereby oh you can see for a very long time even in the long five thousand years ago chinese history or in the westernise history sex has been a job that is inevitably important


it is actually, we see it as a art, as a as a lead to satisfy, to satisfy the needs and requirements of the people, many of times during the sex work, even though is sex is consider so called dirty but a lot of time relationships are being built up and develop this resulted in many relationship to be formed and even prostitutes met with the right person


and in the end they are free and they quit the job with the right people, providing them, sufficient support, and motivation to keep quit the job of, course I totally agree that in many cases many people will discriminate it is


not a noble job it is like doctor hawker, as well as lawyer but many of the times I think it is a rightful transactions whereby, ya


okay then we type okay ah, eh what, why cannot type okay ah


uh ya uh uh ya sorry sorry yup okay oh alright , ya benjamin please carry on


yup I I agree with you that, it is not a good is not a glorified job as compared to doctors whereby the doctors heal the patients and make them recover while the psychiatrist also fulfill the emotional needs of the people the lawyer also


help different people to fight for the cases in the courts as well and this, meets, things to be, this makes things to be, easier for them and essentially a form of


status for many of the time no doubt that this is glorified job, but, that doesn't mean that such jobs in the underground table does not form, and require sex, and in many occasions regardless of


western or asian worlds, all these businesses actually form while after the cases when the people are happy, they actually went for happy moments and inevitably sex might be a form of enjoyment for them to celebrate such goals such winnings such treatments et cetera for them


any many businessman, were businesses is happily, in inevitably that many cases they hand the deals large amount of deals, that create, numerous thousands or even hundreds thousands of jobs through


businesses and through agreements overs sex, whereby they provide prostitutions, the legalised, prostitutions and as a form of enjoyment, to satisfy the client need, for the clients in opposed to that hosts them to their site and provide such sexual services to them in order to be


the favor over their competitors, along the way we like it or we don't like it, jobs are still being created regardless of being noble or not noble, that's why I feel that, as a very practical


and democratic world I think that, sex should, be legalise because in many cases it helps to build up a more, create more jobs and resolve social issues nevertheless, I totally agree with you that in many cases


sex should be, limited in certain districts for instance, in originally in singapore it started off at chinatown, whereby there's a lot of sexual businesses are carried out, subsequently is being drawn to Geylang at different Lorongs


and with the increasing of HDBs and condominiums, the residing estates of, people, the government actually, further draw the areas up to segregate areas, into different sectors currently, nowadays prostitution that are legalised one are being restricted


and withdrawn into specific areas, so that it will not provide a negative influences to all the people around, who are living in the estate, with such fair segregation, and, the violence between the people and sex


prostitution it not only create jobs but also divide them into and separate them from unsightly unnecessary, which is a bad education to children, with this in mind I feel that sex work should be legalised


and it should not be discriminated at all what do you think benjamin


yes I fully understand from the point that human trafficking, relating to sex work should be but and should be strictly controlled, determine and undiscovered such that justice are being brought to the victims


who are actually being, force into such sex works et cetera, no doubt that in this case, that many victims are actually caught unprepared and even hurt along the process


inevitably this resulted to many human trafficking acts but from another flip side of the coin providing such work should be legalised as long as they are willing parties who are actually willing to do this


as a job as a career as what they are actually prepared to do it for regardless of, what, because in many situations, such act is actually based on willingness of the parties not necessary that they are actually being forced into such jobs as wells as in many cases


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okay debate topic two okay


I feel that charity work should be made compulsory, because there are many good things related to it firstly I strongly believe that charity work, is an act of kindness, it is an act of generosity, and is is act of loving towards every person


and every being in the whole world, for charity work, it's good to do charity work, because it has many benefit, one of it if you believe that, in karma law of karma or even in the bible


it shares more on what you reap, and what you sow, it is a giving that we receive, if we don't give


hello oh okay I speak I speak louder ha, is it is it better now okay okay so, okay no problem sorry about it okay so it is in many times I feel that charity work should be done because there are many factors related to it


one of the key factors that I strongly believe that is because, it is in giving that we receive and with what you have giving, to the charity work in terms of being loving being kindness and being a great deal of generosity


to help people, based on the law of karma in terms of, be it different religion or even be it christianity whereby it is a giving that you receive with this in mind you are doing a lot of charitable work you are helping a lot of needy people who required help and assistance


in terms of monetary, or even guidance to the students, or even the disabled, or even the elderly people who needed help to go to the hospital, we will be rewarded and


by providing such need to people who are indeed desperate we ourself, will feel a sense of enjoyment, and sense of satisfaction and also a sense of gratitude that, we are not in such states


and we are more loving that, we are able to give more, and to receive more the cycle keeps goes on and on, with this in mind, especially we understand that, our life, is always on the roller coaster


there are on there are never a smooth paths in every person's life definitely there are ups there are downs there are crisis there are also opportunities in many times, especially if we are doing charitable works


when we met up with different crisis, and we have done charitable work, the good thing will also be striped back to us especially, when we needed help for instance, let me give an example when we are doing businesses


and whether jobs are not doing well, but previously we have done a lot of we have made a lot of donations along the way, the good things we like, it or we don't like it will still come back to us, in terms of


good prosperity karma and this is because the law of attractions as we give, while it it acts like a boomerang it will come back to us which attract a lot of prosperity to us, and along the way, with such obstacles in mind we will meet with different people and have different opportunities to do more charity double work as well as to overcome our crisis


effectively and efficiently so that, we are all very prepared to give more and to receive more and to overcome what is need to be overcome to help more people, with this in mind, benjamin what do you think


is charitable work should be made compulsory


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ya okay, , so I carry on ah okay so you all can hear me right okay right can hor okay can uh okay I agree with you that, charitable work should not, be in terms in a sense of roaring people's time but from another way of looking into charitable work


it give a lot of meaning behind it, in terms of providing the good values in mind, I personally strongly feel that charitable work should be made to be done in companies, in companies there are a lot of stress


so with that in mind, it is it should be made compulsory for the charitable work to be done why do I said such statement this is because in many of the time, where we are working working working, doing a lot of over time


spending a long hours with on our jobs, and we feel oh we are really, bad we are really sacrificing a lot of times and burning midnight hours et cetera and even, midnight oil ya and even during week


cans sometimes we are being forced into working days and nights just to complete the deadline and to meet the satisfactions and requirements of our bosses but with the instilling of charitable work into organisations


ya this will definitely made a great difference, why do I say that because when we do charitable work, all of the people are doing it together regardless of from the top the bosses the middle management managers for the lower junior executive they are working as a team they are doing it as a teamwork to provide such charitable


jobs together charitable works together with that in mind, it not only create bonding among them, but it also strike a balance, between work and life, and with such bonding in mind it'll create a more loving a more relaxed environment for them that apart from just work work work money money money


it will also create a sense of, satisfaction a sense of enjoyment for them, and in terms of, being an admiring on the bosses who have high incomes, such workers bear in mind that when they are serving the disability


people with cancer from stage one to stage four, and people who only have months, to survive and die children who are even not born, but they are actually facing, birth defects et cetera, all these disability will stimulate the people and make the people feel that oh actually I am not that bad oh


actually I still have a job, actually I'm still healthy actually I had still do many things, with this it will inevitably inevitably stimulate a lot of happy hormones, a lot of happy moments with people


such that, it not only relieve stress to them but it makes sense to them, that, to know and be aware how fortunate they are how lucky they are to reborn in singapore with their legs and hands and to survive


the mere breathing of the fresh air in the environment, serve as a magical moment to them that everyday is a blessings, while many people could have been met with accidents, many people could be brought down with lots of


misfortunes and even be sick, old age disease and death, with this in mind, I feel that charitable work should be made compulsory to companies, in addition, I feel that charitable work should be made compulsory to schools


to educate the students, I kept in mind that you mention, that, even people, is the act of stealing of their time and people does it half-heartedly, but in term of schools, children are young


the kids are unable to, know the benefits of the charitable work, where it instill such things to be made compulsory to them, it grows them up to be a man to be a responsible person to serve the nation's


and with that in mind, it has a lot of benefits that we need to be inculcate into the next generations, we do not wish them to be the strawberry generations, whereby they are always stay in their comfort zones


they are always enjoying life and foreseen as being, no contributions to the environment, and the social works as well, with this I strongly feel that, the charitable work should be instil into schools to encourage the peoples to


to do such charitable works, and to inculcate such, precious values that books cannot be thought what do you think benjamin


okay okay, part three debate topic three, okay, I think death penalty should be abolished why do I said that


make it is because that death penalty does not make any sense, the person actually have no chance to repent, no opportunity to show that what they have done is wrong that's it there is also no time for them to be given to them that to reflect on their mistakes and to think that


oh, such thing such things should not have been done such act should not have been served at all with this in mind death penalty should be abolished this is because we understand that, this is


not necessary as there are many form of, punishment that is being kept in mind for instance you can, with the person, for example in terms of singapore law the people who have, done acts such as


more less things et cetera they are being cane they are after that they are also being educated that such moral acts are being, such moral acts are wrong and should be inculcate with the right values, while other terms such as


taking drugs such as kidnapping people in singapore, all of this acts would, resulted to a death penalty this death penalty, will not only, instill a fear among the people and you will not win the people's heart


yes I agree that death penalty, would instill a fear that is, super useful to control the people that oh because of death penalty that's why I do not to rob the dare to rob the bank


is is because of death penalty that I do not dare to kidnap the people, it is because of death penalty I do not, dare to, bring the drugs from malaysia for instance to singapore or from singapore to malaysia this


only act as a temporary measures, that why people, still do not know what is actually right or wrong with this in mind I feel that death penalty should be abolished it should not only be abolished but at any other punishment that should be taken in place should be replaced with such act


for instance education is a key to success to educate people and to educate people of all ages be it young to old or even people with different needs, with this educations in mind people are able to fully understand what is right and wrong and instill a very strong sense that oh


this is actually wrong, for instance kidnap is a wrong deeds and instil into them that not not it is start the fear aspect that works but is, the roots, that to be soft which is the understanding the absorption of it into the brain and it fully


awareness that such acts, should not be done at all this should be the right way to educate the people rather than instilling fear because many people, you can instill a lot of fear but you also promote a form of rebellious activity to them


with these they wanted to test the systems oh, they feel certain kind of enjoyment if they are not being caught, and they purposely do it, in the fact that this, would, reverse the effect and encourage such peoples with different behaviors to


take sides and to turn the tables around they are were more than willing to test the systems because they have, not only nothing better to do but they want to feel a sense of satisfaction a sense of goals in mind that !hey!


even though I killed a person I will not be catch as long as I'm not being catch, I will not be able to serve the death penalty why not I kill more people why not I kidnap more people, these stimulate a sense of


satisfaction an agreement to them that, eh, if I did not do that I will not get this high feeling the satisfaction feeling and this, keeps them going only until they are being caught, but if we do things differently you have a strong education in place


all of this, thoughts will be neutralised out of this education people with such thoughts will be taught rightfully and educated in the right way with this in mind even though in even though they committed mistakes


they're kept in jail with the sentence of ten years or fifteen years they're able to think very deeply on, oh the things they have done is wrong, and I should not have done it anymore what do you think benjamin


yes I yes, I totally agree that these will soothe the feeling of the people, but many of the times we need to understand that, we need to understand very clearly that, once people are dead, things cannot be revived


and let's say you mentioned a point on the counter terrorism counter terrorism act, I feel that you make a point that, these serve as a death sentence to them and it will anger them, but from another angle that we are coming from


it is very realistic that, the more people that we killed, while, while they commit terrorism act it seems that these attract more people more terrorism act for being committed because they're angry, because they're


frustrated they wanted revenge and these actually causes much more chaotic situation and these, does not serve as a remedy to the abolished and, these also as further explained that


death penalty should be abolished, for instance, if the act of the nine one one incidents plane crashes, even with such acts you can see very clearly the terrorists are not afraid of dying


and even if be it we like it or not death penalty is being abolished, deep down, they are not afraid of dying, does, it really does not make any sense to abolish it, and it does not solve the situation at all what we are looking at is that


we need to teach them, a lessons, in terms of educating, it can be through other aspects and other reasoning factors, that, keep then in mind, and if such acts being given to them and such initiative and such agreement to build up with them we need to sit on the table to understand what are their true needs


what do they have to say, this is because many times they have done such scary acts of killing hostages kidnapping people, and killing children they wanted to have a say on what they want they wanted to have a avenue to create more reactions


from other people to !hey! they are trying to convey a message to people that !hey!, please hear me out, I need to do all these act and I don't wish to do all these acts if you all have listen to me what do I really want to say out of these


deep down we need to understand that, through these they have a message they want to come across it, and, I feel that negotiation works best in such situations, instead of reacting and curing terrorists


you should actually organise a platform for them, to voice out their opinion and sit down to talk to them, with this in mind we can truly understand, their requirements and needs, and these were even


cure or eradicate the roots of the problem, the anger in their hearts, the fear in their soul, this will ultimately resolve the whole situations and bring justice, in, and as long as they're aspects and what they voice up is something that is agreeable


things can be workout if if it is not agreeable further negotiation, further mediation should be done to aid in support in such agreement, in addition, you mention something that


death penalty, makes a lot of sense in terms of economic practice, ya, I do not agree with it that, it makes a lot of economic practices because, we all know that


the eighteen chef boss which is a restaurant chain boss actually, come out from jail, they are actually being in prison, and when he released he does a lot of good deed and he actually employ a lot of workers who are suffering from the same fate


even the government, strongly encourage the residents and the people to join the yellow revamp project, and slowly in times to come, with this in mind, they will start to understand, that death penalty should be abolished and death penalty should not be the only thing


that, hurt people and make people think to stop people from making the mistakes, you can see that it is not, about feeding them and in terms of jail putting them in jail that is a waste of resources, once we educate them one's with give them the right antidote they'll actually serve the nation just like how what the eighteen chefs restaurants boss boss have done he contribute significantly economically if we were to spend more time to educate more people in the jail


through acts of kindness volunteering work meditation with this in mind they will slowly slowly eventually able to kick out of their cocoon to contribute back to the society what do you think benjamin


okay yup, debate topic one part one


okay for me I, I'm I suggest that sex work should be legal because personally I see no problem as long as the ladies are protected and prostitution and sex


for money should be legalized as well, it's because I think that it's basically just a job a normal job for these girls to and a way for them to earn money and people tend to think that prostitution from watching movies are tend to be whores


or just girls that are down on their luck and that is fate, so these girls actually they chose this type of job as their own and so who are we to judge and yes I personally believe that sex work should be legal and I'll justify why because


secondly I feel that sex work was if it was to become legalize it will give way for it to, become an organised trade which will diminish the need of violence and therefore could be regulated by the relevant authorities so people in a sex work could be required to test themself in order to reduce the spread of diseases like HIV and STDs


and last but not least all these could be tax making it making it profitable and could potentially help to boost the country's economy, so I would also like to add on that if it's too, if sex is between two consenting adults


they should be able to do to do whatever they want that that's a matter of privacy that the government should have no rights to interfere with, so if both the woman and man decides uh that what they want to do so why can't they


and it's not like they're doing anything unnatural and if, they are having sex it's normal and should be considered a legal experience, so I support the legalization of sex because of sex work because it's important to ensure fair treatment between


before legal and cultural forces on, for example local and international levels of all persons, who are sexually marginalised and because of that they tend to face a layer of uh layer of stigma due to their socioeconomic status


and in a public health perspective decriminalizing sex work is the best way to protect sex workers from, their clients and from sexually transmitted infections including HIV and STDs so lastly I would like to add that prostitutions or sex work is one of the overs uh the oldest form of work in history


and I believe that it's if someone wishes to defile of their own body it is their choice just as women allowed to take allowed to have abortion and take the the chances of ruining their body so people should be able to


choose whether or not they wish to be paid to have sexual relations with others, and if they pick up and STD or STI in the process they would have to deal with the uh complications as of it as they will have have as they should be aware of the consequences ya


okay to add on from the point I mentioned earlier I would like to expand on, why I think sex work should should still be legalised firstly because criminalising adult voluntary and consensual sex including the commercial exchange of


sexual services is incompatible with, the human rights and so as to give personal autonomy and privacy in short a government should not be telling consenting adults who they can have sexual relations uh relations with and on what terms


so criminalization exposes sex workers to abuse and exploitation by law law enforcement officer or officials such as police officials, human one of the uh research that I've done by the human human rights watch has documented that


by criminalizing environment police officers harass sex workers tend to harass them extort bribes and physically and verbally abuse sex workers or even rape or


, or even asking sex from them so based on , based on the, the based on the research that I've done it shows that


, across various country criminalizing sex workers, tend to make them more vulnerable to violence including rape assault or even murders or even murder by attack by attackers who see sex sex workers as easy targets because they are stigmatize and unlikely to receive help from the police or the authorities


so criminalizing, it also force sex worker to work in unsafe locations to avoid , being raped by police and, and subsequently


uh it will undermine the sex sex worker's ability to seek justice in crimes against them, so for one example that I that I found out was that based on an example from south africa sex worker said in an interview that they did not report


armed robbery or rape to the police that is because that they're afraid of being arrested because their work is illegal and that their experience with, police is of being harassed or profited, and arrested or even laughed


or not taken seriously so even when they report crimes sex worker may not be willing to testify in court against their assault, uh against those who assault them and rapists for the fear of facing sanctions or further abuse because of their work and status


it also has a negative effect on other human rights so in countries that ban sex work sex workers are less likely to be able to organise as workers advocate for their uh for their rights or to work together to support and provide


uh to support and protect themself, so how uh how does criminalizing sex work help to protect decriminalizing sex work help to protect sex workers, I feel that by decriminalizing sex worker they it could maximise sex workers legal protection and their ability to exercise other key right


including justice, and healthcare so legal recognition could in turn help sex workers and their and their maximise their protection dignity and equality and I feel that this is an important step towards this that sex work


sorry so I I I still feel that ultimately sex work should be legalized because it is the contents were exchanged between, or of sex between two adults and human trafficking that you mentioned earlier and the sexual exploitation of children uh I feel that they are separate issues


although they are both serious human rights abuse and crimes and should be investigated , and prosecuted but, there are laws that clearly distinguish between sex work and crimes like human trafficking and sexual exploitation of children help actually helps to protect sex workers and crime victims so sex workers uh may be in position to have an important information


about crime such as human trafficking and sexual exploitation of children but, unless the work they they they themselves do is not treated as criminal they are unlikely to feel safe reporting this information to the police authorities and on top of that I also feel that governments should


fully decriminalise sex work and ensure that sex workers do do not face discrimination in law practice they should also strengthen services for, for them and ensure that they have safe working condition and access to public benefits and social safety nets yup and


in addition any regulations and control on on them and their activities needs needs to be non-discriminatory and, or else otherwise complies with, international human rights law


so for example restrictions that would prevent them from engaging in sex work from, organising collectively or working in a safe environment without any legitimate restrictions


okay so we still have a minute right so in economic perspective do you think that by not legalising on sex work how will the government recover taxes from


underground let's say , underground pimps or, underground dungeons that actually failed to recognise that sex work has been taken place ya


, okay


part two debate topic two


okay so this topic is about why I feel charity work should be made compulsory , to start off on why I feel that charity work should be made compulsory I would like to share four points to justify with you


first by giving back to charity actually makes uh makes us feel good so for example donating to charity could be a major mind booster and the knowledge that you're helping others is


hugely empowering I feel and in this could in turn make us feel happier and more fulfilled based on the research that , that have shown in identified a link between making a donation to charity


and an increased activity in the area of brain that registers uh registers pleasure proving that as the old adage goes it it's really far better to give than to receive


so moving on to my second point , I feel that charity works also help to strengthen personal values so having a sense of social conscious will also help, most was also widely given was also the widely given reason as to why people give to charity so whatever type of charity work that they supported


many of them said that they they said they they felt that they had a moral duty to use what they had to help others which is a sentiment and very much rooted in their personal values and principles


so having power having the power to improve the lives of others is to many people a privilege and one that comes with its own sense of obligation, so acting on this powerful feeling of responsibility is a great way to reinforce our personal values and feel like we are living in a way that is true to our own ethical belief


and the third point that I have is giving to charity actually introduces our future generation to the importance of generosity so by sharing the experience of donating to charity with


our younger generation it can show them from a young age that they can make a positive difference in the world, so children naturally love to help others so by nurturing them to in it generosity is likely to mean that they will grow up in a


with a greater appreciation of what they have and will carry on to support charities in years to come, so uh moving on to my last point , I also felt that giving to charity will also encourages will also encourage families and friends to do the same


so our own charitable donations can inspire our nearest, and dearest to give and, causes them to give causes to it that uh they're important they're important to them and could even bring about a family wide effort to back a charity or charities that have special significance to you as a group


not only that but family also family giving also creates upon helping to boost the relationship through a shared goal, and raising more money that than could otherwise be possible through individual donations


okay so I have talked about the benefits of, donation earlier and uh moving forward I would like to justify why aside uh aside aside from charity donation why is volunteering equally important and why it should be made compulsory so


(ppc) it has been said that giving of one's time to others is the best gift that one could one could give and since life is short and we'll all die eventually so time is of


the essence so, by time time can be seen as, to some people as being more valuable than anything else this notion extends to volunteering for an organization or for anything without being paid so


people volunteer in many in many ways in their, children schools for example at local church at nursing homes retirements home community community service events and it's


feel that people are helping others even when they don't have to and why they do it is because it is important for them to help a cause, to lend a helping hand or to support an organisation in need and because of that there is so much to get out from it so for example in it never feels bad to volunteer


uh because volunteering is can be seen as doing something selfless for someone else and this actually evokes a feeling of well-being and satisfaction so and well usually the main motivation


isn't to feel good but it certainly has it's certainly carries the effect, of it ya, and another point is because volunteering usually involve people it also encourages socialising such as networking and or even to make friends so people who help others are likely to meet


a different a race of people from different backgrounds, and they may not have and they will they will not have met if it's not for a good cause, such as volunteering (ppc) this and aside from friend making it can also be a good opportunity for career networking too such as meeting people


that could potentially help you with job opportunities, and it, maybe explore something in different sector and it could also help you build partnership so in conclusion I feel that volunteering brings unlikely people together as well as likely people together too


I think to conclude I feel that volunteering, where people come together for a common goal, helps to create a feeling of ownership among amongst other volunteers like they're part of something bigger than themself part of being part of a team where individuals only make up a whole so once again I've


I feel that volunteering should be made uh compulsory because it, helps people in one way or another or another, and that is what uh matters, and uh yup


(mmhmm) okay so I feel that volunteering , to serve the community it's not


only beneficial to individuals involved but it is also necessary, in creating better societies for all so for instance community members they may tend to volunteer to for example clean up an estate or


roads so this way members of the committee will benefit by living in a cleaner environment which is, free from illnesses related to sanitations uh sanitation so an example of this would be in singapore context would be by cleaning up the roads volunteering communities actually help to prevent dengue spread from


stagnant waters that are, from the roads so so by cleaning the compound that are surrounding them society society members or volunteer members they help, to promote health of their young ones who are trying who are always playing during which time that they can eat anything on the ground so for example


this will have otherwise caused them to have serious infections, and I think aside from that community work does not always revolve around environmental work that's just one example that I have but it is also equally important for fortunate members of the society to help those who are less fortunate


and community members usually also may also volunteers to offer gift, and other services to help the less fortunate ones so these are example in singapore context that volunteers tend to have is to


do for example canned food collections that we have so ya people also may contribute other tangible goods such as, clothings and rice for example to help treat childrens who as in homeless people who have no homes or


or you can they can take it to elderly homes where they can be provided for in a way ya, so in this way uh members of the society will have helped others live, a more and better uh and better comfortable life so especially from single elderly who live alone that tend to not have support from


their childrens so I've I feel that this is very essential in the later stage of their life, as they will be able to receive assistance from volunteers uh volunteering communities as it will certainly help to help us to better take care of the elderlies in our society ya


okay okay uh, stop right


wait ah, part three debate topic three


okay to begin I would like to say that I support the abolishment of death penalty I think firstly because


the point that I have was that because I feel that the death death penalty does not improve public safety so we all want the criminal justice system that is sensible effective and creates a safe


society with less crime and evidence shows that with death penalty that death penalty has no impact on public safety so aside from that I also feel that the death penalty does not address the root cause of crime


so , I think that our focus needs needs to be on preventing crime and violence , so we we know that to reduce crime and violence we must focus on the root causes of crime


so when does crime happens, crime happens when other issues are neglected, they could be due to mental health housing access to education and sustainable employment options so when these issues are addressed communities will


will tend to become more safe and vibrant so when you look at those on the death row for, an an example in in this context uh in the united states so you see that the costly evidence of neglecting childrens families and communities at at risk so we can help to move


communities and our nation forward by addressing the root cause of crime, to create a strong and healthy family and at our community at sake ya so aside from that I think, the research has also that has also shown that most of the law enforcement officials agree that death penalty is not a deterrence


to crime so perpetrators rarely consider the consequences when they engage in violence so if so if they did they wouldn't commit crimes in the first place ya


so the few people who might think about the consequences also think that , they won't get caught so in that case the death penalty isn't considered a factor, when they commit a crime so


these same people also rank death penalty last of their priorities for crime reduction so, and uh we we also know that execution have uh no impact in reducing crime so shouldn't we get ahead of the problem and


also shouldn't we provide positive interventions for people and community at risk and also I feel that a brutal execution in the middle of the night won't prevent the next tragedy


(mmhmm) okay so I still oppose the death penalty because in cases like whereby, oh sorry sorry ya okay


the point that I have was that because I still oppose the death penalty because I feel that wrongful execution can be made and in that case an innocent people could be executed


for something that they did not do so unlike all other crime punishment , death penalty is uniquely, uh irrevocable so although there are some proponents of capital punishment that would agree that it merits


uh worth the occasion occasional execution of innocent people, and most would also insist that there is little likelihood of, the innocent being executed so I so in that case I feel that death penalty is actually inhumane and and cruel act has been proven to be inefficient


that is although some people might also argue that death penalty actually brings justice to the society and actually help, and helps them to save the world from people who


sort of damage it, , by using it using the same or worse methods does not actually make us better than them, , I also feel that death penalty is is a some form of retribution


which is wrong because I believe that retribution is morally, morally flawed and problematic in uh concept and in practice so what I would argue that capital punishment is not really used as retribution for murder or even consistently for a particular kind of murder


so based on the research in the US it said that a small minority of murderers are actually executed and imposition of capital punishment on, there's a quote that they said precariously selected random handfuls of of offenders does not amount to consistent programmes of retribution so since capital punishment is not


operated retributively it is inappropriate to use retribution to justify capital punishment and my argument would have no value in a society that applied death penalty consistently for particular types of murder


okay, , okay in most countries that you mention the


the public majority actually strives for keeping this kind of punishment but I think nevertheless I would like to emphasize that human rights should not depend on


attitudes of those of the society so after all we are all well aware of the tragic facts when the society found it acceptable to exploit people of, different race isolate the handicaps and destroys the whole nation to quote so to date we have a long run experience of


countries that actually have, abandoned this form of punishment and mankind can make direct conclusion about the ineffectiveness of death penalty in preventing crimes and the risk of killing the innocent


so it's then for fair and reasonable punishments for offenders that would serve the purpose of justice and would also be appropriate for society where the right to live is an absolute value


so there's there's also an indisputable studies that shows that that show that the more people, were aware of the facts, that are related to death penalty the less that they would likely to oppose it


it's abolition so unfortunately the states that practice this in the US , this form of uh punishments, are often reluctant to provide their citizen with information on the issue and actually hinders the appropriate activities of human rights defenders therefore supported by existing social myth (ppc)


so I will present my argument based on , , the experience of the above mentioned uh research, ya


(ppc)


yep


part one debate topic one


okay so I on the other hand do not think that sex trade should be legalised, so firstly many of these people are forced in the sex trade and the problem is sex work is that many of these people they're being forced in this trade so we have all heard of stories of children from poor to middle class being sold and live in awful conditions from a young age


and I'm I'm concerned for the children and women who are forced to perform sexual acts on strangers and their pimp in turn receives all the money instead of them, so another concern would be the plague of STD 's


so all these women having sex freely and it's likely that having more sex would only catalyse the spread of STDs, so this would in turn place their health in danger and they could suffer long term repercussions which they could which they would live to regret


(ppc), I also feel that sex work should stay illegal because it's likely to cause abortion rates to increase, making abuse more common and also it does not provide any positive impact on society economically or for living standards


it also makes the ideas of sex of sex work being more accessible to to children and may encourage children to to forgo jobs that can potentially improve society or even for the betterment of themselves such as being a doctor or engineer


and furthermore an increase in abortion rates imply an increase in the number of innocent lives being taken away, and this is inhumane and cruel as unborn children are deprived of life which is the most basic human right of all


and in this perspective I feel that a children does not deserve to die because her mother or father were were irresponsible, we should also acknowledge a connection of sex work and human trafficking which can which go hand in hand in many cases


women are not being empowered but exploited and the numerous reports of violence from pimps and clients only furthers a case against sex work as a legitimate and safe career, so just because something can be done it does not mean that it should be done


I will also like to add on that sex work should be made illegal in order to protect women rights, correspondingly making it legal again because of women's freedom of choice and to lower sex assault rates is wrong


it does not give women freedom of choice because women could be forced into sex labour just like children in africa and we should lower the rate of sex assaults with justice and law not permitting crime


okay so I would like to reinforce my stand that sex that the sex trade should remain illegal, sex for money creates gender inequality and vice versa by promoting sex work as a career we're saying that it is okay for men to dangle money in front of women for sex instead of promoting equality for women to contribute to society in different capacities


such as doctors scientists furthermore if a majority of women, choose sex work as a career the price for such services is likely to drop, due to the spike in such services and this could potentially cost sex work to be of the same price as minimum wage and by extension creating a class of sex slaves


moreover these women are also likely to be subjected to violence if they do not comply to the demands of their clients so an investigation of the commercial sex industry in eight american cities, found that thirty six percent of prostituted women reported that their buyers were abusive or violent this is inhumane and I believe that the only way to prevent this from happening is to ensure that sex work remain illegal


also if you were to legalise sex work this will only increase the demand for prostitution, it will boost the motivation of men to buy women for sex in a much wider and more permissible range of socially acceptable settings


this would send a message to our future generations that women are sexual commodities and that prostitution is merely harmless, this could also potentially result in a corrupted society, where for instance businessmen are encouraged


to hold their corporate meetings in these clubs where owners supply naked women on a table at tea breaks and lunchtime to reinforce my argument we should look at what these women are seeing on the ground, according to a study funded by the ford foundation out of the hundred and forty six women interviewed most of them strongly stated that prostitution should not be legalised and be considered legitimate work


and they warn that legalisation would only create more risk and harm for women from the already violent customers and pimps, so it is safe to say that most women providing sex work, did not make a rational choice to enter this industry


they did not sit down one day and decide that they wanted to be prostitutes rather such choices are better termed as survival strategy, rather than consent women engaging in sex work more accurately complies with the only options available to them and this would imply their sex work is mostly involuntary and taken out of desperation


so we hear very little about the role of the sex industry in creating a global sex market in the bodies of women and children, instead we hear much about making prostitution into a better job for women through regulation and legalisation


through unions of so-called sex workers and through campaigns which provide condoms to women in prostitution but cannot provide them with alternatives to prostitution, we hear much about how to keep women in prostitution but very little about how to help women get out governments


said legalised prostitution as sex work will have a huge economic stake in the sex industry consequently these will foster their increased independence on the sex sector, if women in prostitution are counted as workers pimps as businessman and buyers as consumers of sexual services


thus legitimating this entire sex industry as an economy sector then governments can abdicate, responsibility for making decent and sustainable employment available to women, rather than sanctioning


sanctioning prostitution, we could address the demand by penalising the man who buy women, for the sex of prostitution and support the development of alternatives for women in prostitution industries


instead of government governments cashing in on the economic benefits of the sex industry by taxing it governments could instead, invest in the futures of prostituted women by providing economic resources from a seizure of sex industry assets to provide real alternatives for women in prostitution


ultimately sex work is not a desirable social phenomenon that should be advocated and it also poses an obstacle to the ongoing development towards equality between men and women, with that I stand strong on my views that sex work should not be legal and more should be done by society as a whole to put a stop to sex work


uh the government can collect taxes from many other areas and they don't have to result to like uh, to collecting women to to collecting to collecting uh taxes from pimps as a source of income, and I feel that uh by doing so this will only cause more harm than good


part two debate topic two


okay uh I feel that charity should not be made compulsory before I begin I would like to first clarify the definition of, charity work which to me mainly exist in two forms so the first would be volunteering which involves giving our time to others and donation which involves giving money and goods


so if charity work is to be compulsory, people might see it as a nuisance and not be as willing to give to charity I feel that that I feel that people should be given a choice and be able to spend their money and use their time for what they think is right


if charity is made compulsory people would not be giving out of care and kindness but just because they had to and they will likely be doing so against their own will , we are supposed to be happy givers when we donate to charity rather than forced givers if people were forced to give their money and time to charity the act of giving might become very bitter and resentful


this would then defeat the true purpose and spirit of charity which would make us wonder as to what is the meaning of charity, making charity compulsory is just a position and an and an oxymoron in itself


compulsory giving and donations to anyone will just be another form of tax or levy or subsidy or whatever you wish to call it moreover it's also difficult to decide which charities should be the one receiving the money


or how would the government choose which organisations to receive it if charities is to be done out of an act of love and kindness it should not be made compulsory to anyone, furthermore, according to the free market principles giving to charities shouldn't be made compulsory since we live in a free market economy people can give to charitable organisations if they wish


especially with income tax incentives if giving to charity becomes required, that situation will be just as bad as requiring all citizens to have health insurance or pay a fine on your income tax return moreover by making charity work compulsory we will not be able to inculcate the importance and


true meaning of charity work in our future generations the future generation would also likely view charity as obligatory, and we might potentially be bringing up and nurturing a future generation that lacks empathy and compassion


this will not be desirable for the future of our society


okay so I would like to reinforce my stand that charity work should not be made compulsory perhaps one might argue that charity work will enable one to learn how to better solve problems and enjoy the satisfaction of overcoming a hurdle


propositions may also argue that students who do charity work learn that they can actually make a difference with what they do, specifically it is argued that students will likely be be able to better understand their own competence leading to more self confidence and a can-do attitude which could carry on to their work and academic pursuits


while all these arguments for charity work may sound pleasing to the ears it is unfortunate that that there is a lack of statistics and data to back up this claim, this then makes me ponder the true benefits of charity work


and whether they should even be made compulsory, furthermore it is not surprising that students these days take up charity work so that they can become more attractive to prospective employers


taking part in in community service teaches students teaches students skills that are valuable to employers like problem solving teamwork and the ability to follow instructions, volunteering is especially valuable when it is related to a student's future career while it is true that employers are more likely to value candidates with experience in charity work I would like to reiterate my previous point that this defeats the true purpose of charity


charity work should not be made compulsory as students should engage in charity work out of willingness and love and not to boost their future employability, lastly one may also argue that charity work takes learning beyond the classroom


it offers an opportunity for enrichment and a great way for students to relate concepts to the real world, it also opens students to a wealth of networking opportunities allowing them to build new relationships within their community as they contribute


students can meet new people work with new organisations and strengthen their ties to the community, that being said charity work should not be made compulsory as such benefits tend to be limited


I remain firm on my ground that charity work should not be made compulsory the worst form of moral education is probably students believing that they should be vindicated in society we should not be made to feel that it is compulsory for us to give back to society


in some cases it may also be made it also it may also be construed as forced labour instead for charity work to be appreciated and meaningful, it has to come from our hearts


so in singapore it is worth noting that many schools have made volunteering compulsory as part of their curriculum for instance, #ngee ann# polytechnic as well as uh the singapore management university whereas on the other hand schools such as Nanyang technological university has take a difference stance and it's uh and it's of the view that charity work


should be made voluntary and not a requirement to graduate so the threat of a failing grade in charity work is counter-intuitive to the objective of inculcating civic civic mindedness, so to me kindness should not be graded but appreciated for and respected for what it is


okay uh I feel that the death penalty should not be abolished firstly death penalty should remain in place as it as it serves as a reminder that prevents convicted killers from killing again there have been countless cases where convicts sentenced to life in prison have


murdered other inmates and prison guards, convicts have also been known to successfully arrange murders from within prison, the most famous case being mobster whitey bulger who apparently was killed by fellow inmates while in prison


there are also cases where convicts who have been released for parole after serving only part of their sentences and even life sentences and have murdered again after returning to society a death sentence is the only irrevocable penalty that protects innocent lives


so those who support the abolishment of the death penalty should reconsider their stand the government has a duty to curb crime and the laws of the country should be allowed to do so, human rights advocates