okay just just say that farmers are resist to change, lah, say that quality is more important than quantity you know using the natural resources to farm crop is more healthier lesser side effect is probably the way to go because use science right using all the weird chemicals right hurting the land you know the land might not be be useful


anymore and for long run right the land might be hurt, know and then for the health also might might might might might, so for now there's no side effect we are but nobody knows in the long run that you know eating all those , genetic modified food might actually hurt us also then ya let's continue elaborate on this


ya just agree might be effective but the the the food that is produced that is unhealthy


okay I I I somewhat agree to you, to a certain extent so first of all what is artificial intelligence to me so AI will be actually a programme a robotics or a actually a a a automated computer system where they actually perform a set of tasks in a automated way and they are


actually able to you know mine data and to improve their performance, means you can just leave the AI to do the stuff to do the task by itself and over time they they can actually improve themselves and be more efficient and effective in actually you know doing the job so for example me working at a bank we actually does use AI because AI does reduces cost and you know


they are more accurate and they eliminates human error so in the sentence AI should be embraced so should be embraced yes I think certain extent should be embraced because AI thus actually make life easier but at what cost


and since it is inevitable I have to disagree with this because AI can be avoided we do not need AI in our, life to actually perform certain tasks for us and AI in other words you know you make, life more convenient more comfortable easier but it actually cultivates you know humans me and my colleagues to be more lazy everything we rely on AI and I believe at what cost


you know AI is AI is going to be you know you want to be advanced, probably gonna take over the world this I am not really sure about it but if AI really does take over the world it will come at a very expensive cost because like for example you know the the (ppc) automated


car where they can drive on the road they're probably is safer I will say but this is debatable as some hackers could actually hack the AI and then cause a big, mess on the you know on the traffic there could be a lot accidents and everything, and AI could actually replace all the drivers on the roads so all the drivers on the road will actually lose their job then they will not have any income and and companies that uses AI right


now faces another issue because there are a lot of people actually you know loses their jobs there's will be at economy downturn and no one will actually you know purchase the products, for example NTUC will use AI then there's a lot of cashier a lot of cashier sweeper lose their jobs all the sweeper and cashier lose their job they will not have money to actually purchase goods from NTUC so this is actually a vicious cycle


if you were actually to you know be be you know very AI focused ya like my company has no employee at all is totally AI ya then you're not hiring you know so money needs, to be circulated around the world so AI is the AI is a you know a method to actually reduces costs entirely I will say because you need to pay you know maintenance on server electricity to actually you know to let the AI perform but you are actually not giving opportunities for others to earn


so this actually causing a economy downturn I I would say particularly ah ah that uh population on the world is increasing so ya


okay so I do agree that AI is impressive you know and they could actually improve further in you know, the in the future but but bear in mind that AI is actually programmed and designed by a human being so I will say that a human being is the one that should be embraced and inevitable because without the humans that actually design and programme there will be no such thing as AI and by creating AI


does actually you know solve certain problems and cause even more problems so I do not actually you know advise that, AI should actually be adopt for the majority processes in the world, for example you could use AI to actually drive a plane but but bear in mind do you think customer would actually bother to pay so much money to board a plane that is actually been drove by a AI like


they doesn't seem safe in any way right like the plane is actually operated by AI and there are more, wireless on board and all so what if there's you know there's a issue ya you could say that there's a remote driving but I am not sure you know how, receptive will the passengers be ya so I'm really certain things AI can perform will be you know for example they are high risk


things that you know that actually might risk the human to lose their life where AI should actually be doing the task then I believe that that you know AI should come into place as because this this quite risky like for example you know venturing into the space is pretty dangerous like when they went to mars they are using AI is it's it's a very good


upward they can't hold who'll take the risk to actually risk your life, ya to to go over there so I believe AI, are supposed to do subtle work but AI shouldn't be you know used in a way to actually eliminate tedious stuff just because human are too lazy to do it and I believe AI does actually reduces emotional touch sometimes certain


things you know you need human intervention you know and not eliminate all human interaction towards certain things, so like for example going to the bar ya you could say a robot could actually serve me a drink but you know I believe that that's uh looks a bit boring, and actually eliminate the you know the atmosphere where you know there are there will be lack of human interaction now so I believe AI is actually good in certain things and bad in certain ways ya


okay so I believe personally I couldn't see in our future era where AI could actually replace all humans because there are limitation of AI you know for example it for example you will talk to Siri Siri couldn't capture your words properly sometimes most of the time I would say


so there's a limitation on AI so for example if the data, would be it you know extremely far but on irradical the AI wouldn't be actually you know analyse the data in a proper manner, so for Facebook they had been using AI to actually analyse what users like to see what users like to do what is in trend now but sometimes the data are not absolutely right so this part where the data analytics team they actually come in to


do uh clean up for the data to make sure that the data is right but yes it does improve uh you know, certain tedious task to actually you know maybe reduce human intervention reduce and all, trouble but I will say that you know is not all the time accurate so this is my concern


ya but for example right there are actually limitations to artificial intelligence particularly when it comes, to ethics and moral so artificially, intelligent doesn't understand what is ethics they doesn't understand what is moral ya they will just advise you the best action you know for example you are you


you you dislike your colleague the artificial intelligence could advise you to eliminate the target but this doesn't make sense because it goes against the ethics and moral you know nobody will do that in in in the real in the real life, situation yes and I will believe that artificial intelligence does not comprehend emotions


so they do not know how you feel they do not know what you perceive they do not know your personal valuables they do not know your personal beliefs ya they can't they can't identify what kind of food you like to eat or what kind of food you like to you know or what kind of drinks you like to drink


but because all your purchase so you have been buying you know like beer like Coca Cola like fruit juice so they will just straight away they will just infer that oh this are your favourite drink but that might not be entirely true just, because you know oh I could be broke you know I I I could I I could have drink something more expensive but I didn't have the money so I decided to drink coke everyday ya so like I have been everyday drinking coke so at the week


weekend I drink something more expensive I drink beer so in the articulate artificial intelligence would thinks that I like to drink coke more than beer but that is not true but they based on my purchase record, they can study what


ya but I do believe that AI is a programme that actually schedule our life to tell you what to do to tell you what is right but I don't think they're absolutely right, so for example for a kid right they're they have no saving they will probably tell them and say oh you get married at fifty years later because they got no savings now then they change time to time so AI there's a lot of limitations towards AI so


so I think AI is a it's it's not the way to go in the future ya


okay so I I I just press stop first right


does modern technology always improve the quality of people's life


okay I need to count, okay


okay so I will start from here right, okay so I believe


uh to a great extent that modern technology always improve the, quality of people's life but however , due to the convenience we usually err will lack of err this emotional touches interpersonal emotional touch


okay and because of that I feel that err, we still do need this err


uh sorry I I myself I stopped


, wait ah let me think of what is err <P2> elton </P2> has just mentioned convenience, , oh shit


eh uh hold on ah can I just move out of the screen is it possible, cause my neighbor is knocking on the door I need to settle that ya sorry, ya


ya hello


okay


yes uh modern technology yes does improve uh the quality of people's life however it removes the the emotions between humans and


uh with technology advances of uh uh, if technology advances okay sometimes it will means that machines are quickly uh replacing manual labours which have adjusting impacts on both material and non-material quality of people's lives so which means that


more people will lose their jobs, and that would affect the economy and then uh, uh, ya


yes I agree to a certain extent that yes uh modern technology does improve on err our communication daily life communication with your friends and all but however, err yes it get things done quickly but I feel that we still do prefer to meet up face to face


and then uh hang around and then do, err all the old school stuff together uh it's like if you think about it when was the last time you play a board game, nowadays everyone is just holding on phones and then we just doing our own things ya so I feel that


, technology is good but at certain point of time we we still miss those days that we err operate without technologies and you talk about err PayNow err


yes it is very convenient but it will sometimes it leads to certain, uh unwanted convenience like uh, getting scammed, online and you see all the old people uh they got scammed by all the err


misinformations all the advertisements and then they anyhow click and then they transfer money to wrong people ya and, other than that uh yes modern technology does improve a lot on err globalisation you bring prices down it brings a lot of convenience but I will need to


emphasise that uh convenience brings a lot of err does bring along some err risk as well that's something that err we should take note of


ya, uh, oh for example uh, because of err the uh technology advancement uh and we communicate err


even faster and then err what we what I see commonly we are in the internet is whereby people start to impersonate people uh using fake accounts and then, they tried to intimate err imitate some somebody else and then err in return they they ask for personal information datas and then err eventually they they


err they act as another person where when they took try to take money from the other that, person so uh these are the common err crimes that are I've observed in the recent years ya and some of these are my own friends as well ya


yes you can they they do leave traces behind but


err yes when it occurred in singapore definitely you can trace it easily because you have the authority and the government to actually override err this systems, but if you were if the crime take place overseas is overseas scam then that is the bank will probably just refund you the money


and that's all they can do, if it's a small amount ya so basically they cannot take any actions overseas because they do not have authority over the the governance over that side so that is one of the the downside ya


err err, I would debate that it's more of like a convenience and err, sometimes, is


is very personal objective and then they may not be in the right position on, to to publicise this information online, which err somehow it would be what we always call fake news and


some some are some is just irrelevant ya or ya so we get a lot of this kind of poses on err on on Facebook for example ya and it has gone viral for no particular reason ya that's what I see


err that that's true for younger uh generation but uh when I was with my family members err let's say if err uh err a aunt which is like, in the seventies they look at Facebook all they see is oh informations whatever facebook post is true they believe it ya and then when they come to show it to me oh what whatever happen over here and there but it's like uh it's old news they don't know how to fact check that's that is one issue


okay


uh yes I did (ppc), is effective farming possible without science


cause right the things that I read out on on online right it really make sense that uh, the technology does uh, improve the farming, significantly lah like so is evidently and I fact-check already so


uh I I'll be I'll be just saying


, but we're talking of effectiveness but this this is more a willingness eh,


innovation and science are two different things okay ya true okay correct


okay sure let's go, okay uh


, I believe that uh farming is possible without science because for generations and for err over these past centuries farmers across the world they have, been doing their traditional farming normally and then everything is good doesn't the only thing that


err that err, obstruct them is probably those natural disasters and maybe drought uh other than that, farming has never been an issue uh within the community and uh I feel that uh without science uh things uh farming and all the production is still uh going strong ya


uh


ah okay sure okay I also read about err this article okay so whereby err this err there's this farmer who has been


doing farming for err up to, for hundred and twenty years so what they actually say that err when you don't use chemicals right okay you become a much better observer and you are constantly evaluating the conditions so without uh additional substances


err like chemicals and all the pesticides and stuff so these farmers can actually ya evaluate the conditions and then they can come up with a, better trial and error to their farming experience, so I do not think that is necessary for for science to be involved to make err an a effective farming ya


some of the factors what are some of the factors


, but <P2> eldon </P2> cover a lot, , he covered replacement of all these natural things,


okay err yes err maybe there's err, with err with science yes it does err


improve on the , in their evaluating and also to to raise the productivity but err, another part of the the down, fall is whereby these farmers this traditional farmers they are actually not willing to try out this


new fertilisers or new technologies that that that the scientists and they actually came up with, so, without them trying err this err technology there won't be err ya


it's almost impossible for for such err improvements and apart from that,


err, , yes I do agree that err science does improve significantly because ya with the


with the the with with new, substances being produced ya uh farming can be more effective for sure yes


I really don't know what to say ah, ,


(ppc), yes I agree with what <P2> elton </P2> said err whereby


natural resources is scarce and then uh we've also the sea level rising okay lands then it's getting uh there's lesser land space and then, we do need uh replacement for


uh or make oh to make uh farming more effective okay, due to these err natural disasters and things that we we couldn't stop err because global warming is almost err err irreversible so ya that's almost impossible to stop these things ya


talking about overfarming this more of like a human err human mistakes and the governments probably do not regulate it properly, and


and also pollutions of the sea by mainly the oil tankers and also due to uh globalisations ya there's a lot of ships cruising everywhere so these are some of the issues, that uh that affect the particularly this the the the fish farming uh sectors so (ppc)


I do agree yes correct yes err with science it does, improve on uh the productivities and uh with that it it helps us to ease on the the err it helps us to slow down the rate of err it does err err it helps us err slow down the rate of err consumption I would say


eh no production eh, never mind , (ppc)


hold on


yes I I do think that it is important for err singapore to self-sustain and also and in for instance err this err COVID incident it stops all the trading across err the world so


especially during this err emergency times at least we still have err we ought to have our own uh, err, agricultures and and also our own err technologies to sustain our own err demands err


mentioned that err yeah the buildings are around uh singapore ya they they, they are, err we


as in the the the managements of those buildings they they they try to uh make full use of those spaces and then making err sustainability, buildings and then which is really a very brilliant idea


but err this this err, sorry


uh I'm not reading anything though ya, err


okay sorry


, okay so traditional farmers uh they might not be err inclined of changes because err


of a lot of uncertainties, ya mainly because they do not know how the the food would turn out and they also value more uh towards quality than quantity


and so making money profit out of err farming err is not their priority but err to to ensure that uh the the best quality is is being churned out every every harvest that is their uh priority I would say and uh


they do not wish to try this probably is they do not know what is the side effects uh that can bring to the end users, and and these are the information that they would not uh uh be able to retrieve and maybe when they find out it's already too late somebody has been err err solve like diagnosed with some illness or something by then it's already too late so probably this is some of the reasons why they do not wish to uh attempt to uh try out news new new uh farming methods


artificial intelligence should be embraced since it's inevitable discuss


uh I feel that artificial intelligence should be embraced and since it's inevitable because


uh you look around us almost everything uh that we have been using are using artifital artificial intelligence for instance, the advertisements on Facebook


everything is being being monitored by uh AI and whatever, we click whatever we say has been recorded by by the system by the AI and then what it will the what it does is actually it reflect uh it will actually search out on what we we say or what we what we type and then it the the advertisement it will reflect


according to what we err what you just searched so, these are things that we we use it on our daily life uh for instance uh uh let's say uh Apple phone okay we have we we have a this function call the Siri !hey! Siri and then with with a simple voice command


okay the AI will actually help us to do our simple things where where else, where we can actually focus on , like er doing er, in other words it save us a lot of times, okay so


ya you can simply just say !hey! Google search uh search for me a song is it gonna rain today while you are just doing your dishes or the kind of thing you can do more things uh with AI, and, uh another thing is about uh vehicles


so we've actually heard about uh Tesla doing all the automate err vehicles travelers autonomous vehicles so, uh, with this concept then again


we can focus, on err, ourself and then also allow, the AI to help us to drive more safely, okay but err I would say it will be hundred percent safe if it's entirely uh AI vehicles on the road only okay so cause if you have some AI uh not AI vehicles the traditional vehicles on the road


there will be, a bit of conflicts between the human errors and also the AI, so it's harder to manage over there if you have a mixture of both, uh, so in general I feel that uh AI has actually help the the modern world significantly in terms of production and err err the effectiveness uh when it comes to uh


, our daily lives ya , ,


so I believe uh what you mention is yes it is uh it's good but it's just that we need to use it or uh at the right place and the right time uh and also at the right amount, so


in january in general uh definitely AI uh will help you to to solve a lot of a lot of issues and, mainly I'll I'll argue that yes err, when you go cashless and people loses job but uh


I will still uh argue that it's, is inevitable because uh it helped us to reduces mainly human errors that is the main priority and it it uh it helped us to do constant research and constant improvements which which are which


err, which is uh more efficient than err err than doing it manually and gathering datas so without a doubt AI err does make a significant difference in our uh modern life and


, there's also another incident where I read up whereby err there's this traditional japanese game it's called go whereby you play the the white black chess, so this AI they actually set up a a computer AI that will play against uh the world best player


so, uh, after a couple of I think five rounds uh which take a course over I think a few hours for them to, play this five rounds and then this AI actually managed to win the world number one go player so which is which shows actually how impressive uh AI is and how it can actually uh significantly improve


our technology advancement progress, ya


uh yes I do agree that ya AI is mainly


to replace a more of a tedious processes and then to gather datas and to to give you a a research and uh and uh gather those results for you in a very err quick and


errorless method uh, there's definitely a need for the human touch to be around as, we have been living like that for all for all all the time definitely is able oh is almost impossible to be


fully uh to be two be living in a fully AI world ya, so, yes I do agree with you that ya at certain point in time certain service that, we we do err need uh human to to to the job for instance probably in the HR ya you can't you can't definitely have a a computer that the that will


uh and do an interview with you and then see how what kind of person you are then then let the AI computer to decide whether they should hire you that's a bit err, too much I will say ya AI is purely just for uh gathering datas and making things more effective


making processes more effective and , yes


uh, yes I I do agree that uh at certain point we are still in one of the earlier stage of uh AI uh probably AI is probably introduced like maybe less than


ten years ago so we are still in the quite a early stage of uh the development of, AI uh for instance when first uh this Siri function first came out a lot of, times that singaporean we try to uh verbalise certain sentence and


Siri doesn't uh allow us uh doesn't capture what we say but I think recently actually when I went to check the setting they actually have err in Apple err phone, you can actually see there's actually err singapore english whereby they actually learn how singaporean speak and how we uh


uh how how we articulate certain words in our own uh singlish method so in other words AI is actually learning way faster than , any uh any other technology that I can uh recall ah even know you know so


it is quite impressive within such a short period of time they can actually uh, uh improve ya this much


sorry uh I was experiencing a lag, okay so, but they can also study that uh, you do not only you only uh drink on the weekend and then uh you don't drink on the weekday and then err coke is one of your top preferred choice but err


ya that that that that is, one of the thing that err they can improve on not saying that there's no uh possibly uh possible, err of them, to to make such a improvement uh you never know you never know


sorry you're a bit lagging I cannot hear what you say


I have three minutes uh okay sure


advertisements are often entertaining but they rarely affect consumer choice is this your experience so for me uh, , I think I think advertisement is entertaining but also uh a bit annoying because when you when you're watching like certain videos on YouTube or whatever right and then you just want to skip the advertisement like maybe even even if it's something that you


really want then uh then after that they just keep showing you the advertisement but it's actually really just annoying


I trying to find Serene I cannot find her , , yes sure


ya correct I mean like you your point is very interesting , advertisement, flyers newspaper all these is


very entertaining but, you know right it it's like, if let's say you want to do something let's say if you really want to go and see a feng shui Sir right, even without all these advertisements ah you will still go and see the feng shui Sir right so actually it doesn't really affect


consumer choice, let's say for example, example like for me I uh I was like just talking to my friend casually uh a conversation right like I was just telling her how much I like, uh the glitter eyeshadow and then


after that, the next moment ah I was looking through my Instagram and they show me an advertisement about glitter eyeshadow eh and then, I'm like what it's so, it's so uh , it is very interesting how they are listening


to whatever I'm saying right now but then, it doesn't, it doesn't affect me to make me want to buy it because I just think that it's annoying like when you scroll through your Instagram you just want to see your friend's, update and everything you don't want to see advertisement like I I think they can be a bit annoying as well


so so for me I I don't I don't think it will really affect your choice, if let's say if you really want to get something even without advertisement you will still go and get it you will do your research you go and find google everything like for you if you want to see feng shui Sir you go and find google you ask your friend you will not it will not be because of advertisement that affect your choice


, ya ya I'm done ,


chat box oh err I I read it out


so okay about brand oh brand loyalty okay let's talk about brand loyalty okay so, I I have, a lot a lot of friend recently they tell me to uh, buy a MacBook switch to Apple and I'm like no I don't want to switch to Apple you know because you know when you switch to Apple all these uh you have to change everything right to to to Apple your phone and everything and it's expensive and and I think they also


do like uh a lot of advertising so for me also I see a lot of advertising of the Apple and actually some people like , they just love the brand Apple right so they will they will use iPhone they love to buy iPhone and and even though let's say for example like some other brand they keep doing uh advertising


, they keep doing advertising right uh, and it doesn't, affect, their choice like they are just, very loyal to Apple like #shi yun# you are Apple user right you use iPhone right so if let's say today someone like uh keep showing you the advertisement about this new phone that they have uh how how good and how amazing it is like maybe it's so much way way more better than iPhone it doesn't


affect, your choice to want to change because you are very loyal to this brand so ya for me I very loyal to Samsung I only use Samsung, and I refuse to change to Apple so I think uh the advertisement is a useless for me if they try to promote Apple ah


oh I'm I'm done with my point


, Popeyes,


, I think for your case right you are just hungry , and you just want to eat so


doesn't matter, advertisement or not you still want to eat fried chicken right, so it's it's not a good point man because you were hungry that's why that's why you just see any fried chicken, you want to eat for people who are not hungry


I mean okay you have good point that people want people want to have good deal people want things to be cheap but just now the one that I was talking about like like Apple is not cheap the brand is not cheap it's so expensive but some people is still very loyal to them


right and I think I think your point is a bit uh very interesting point about fried chicken , okay uh


one minute to wrap up okay so let me wrap up my point first okay so my point is entertainment, uh advertisement advertisement, is important, okay but too much of it is uh it's annoying and it's not a productive uh


and this will uh will in uh, will in turn I mean this one will will make people very frustrated and not want to see whatever they have and thus not wanting to buy things that even if they want to buy


summarized the point


stop


part two debate topic two


oh you give me three minutes, okay


okay let's start the wait ah let me come back here


okay (ppc) so this debate topic two is about picture is, more powerful than mere words this is so true I tell you why because right like like I give you very very very uh easy example ah like you want to explain something to a kid and then


you talk and talk and talk and you show the kid like a page of essay or a lot of words right the kid don't understand but if let's say you just show a simple picture and you explain it and then the kids can understand so


so it's like, it is words are very very complicating because not everybody have strong language like like for, people who are not very good at reading they might not be they might not be able to understand what you want to bring across right that's why you you see like


not not a lot of people they are a fan of literature or essays or poem because you can read but you cannot understand , but a lot of people they like to uh they appreciate art more like you see more of art museum uh art gallery in all over the world because people appreciate art like even though it's just a simple picture right but it brings out the


the meaning behind it like you can you can see what the painter is trying to portray the feeling, and all these so I agree that picture is more powerful than words


but you say about engagement right through the text ah but be honest, ah like, like now when you're reading an article, compare to when you see a picture let's say example let's take Instagram for example Instagram is a place where people show picture and then the caption they keep it short why because picture speaks more like a thousand word


right it and it's like it's, like uh, what's the example uh, like like, even for example people want to talk about certain news now they just put it like everything right summarized in the picture or or even better if they make it into a short video because you talk about


uh engaging interacting I personally don't find text is very err engaging ah like the only engaging thing is it's engaging me to go to sleep because you cannot


understand because the texts, is so long and wordy like okay unless you are reading storybooks uh like you want to read books then it's different right but if let's say you want to convey a message to to someone and you


write, the so long essay like you don't get people's attention but, when you have a, very uh very strong picture that you show people that you capture their attention then immediately they they want to know what what is this picture about what is this photo about


but that's why picture is more powerful what like you can show the sunset right people can have different point of view about the picture right when you when you talk about words you say this is a, sunset, so this is what it means but if you show a picture of a sunset people can imagine like !wah! the creativity the imagination everything come out


and that's why you know picture is a, like picture is powerful but I think video is even more powerful than picture because you are engaging with, your audience you are you are uh getting the attention to bring your point across


let's say for another example I give you another example why picture is more powerful let's say today you are lost, somewhere and you want to ask for direction, and this person tell you you go straight and you go left and you go right and then you say go left but pointing right and then you are so confused about the words and then compared to


another person, right just give you a simple map, and draw the direction uh and then you just follow the map it's just so easy, , let me uh start my laptop okay eh sorry ya so this is


another example right like why, is why is picture is more powerful than words like from picture you can just understand


but the main point is when you see from social media circle you see on Instagram and what's Instagram posting about picture right so even if it's short words it's posted still on the picture right, , so to you a picture is more powerful than words


right, I mean there I think there's no right or wrong ah that's just my point of view ah


I think I think it's the other way around there like it's the picture is the main point that they want to see then they just add, the words so that, you know it's more a bit like people can read a little bit but, but people don't see Instagram for words they don't see Instagram for texts they see for the photos and videos and even if you do Insta story it's about video it's not about words you don't post like just words if you just post like words people will just skip your story because they don't know what you talking about


ya but you know there's and, sometimes people just post picture and then they put insert caption because they don't know what to say so but the picture is


there, so it's still the picture is more important as they will not post words without picture,


feeling cute today uh okay sure but still it's you you're posting a picture you are not posting words


okay let's just say Facebook Facebook also you post, picture, okay lah Facebook is not so much picture but I think Instagram is a good example Facebook sometimes you post like long essay long texts right people will not read it one


all day about whatever that happened to them in their life and nobody will read it


it's the picture that got your attention right, , uh okay sure


uh, wrap up ah I I still stand by my point my point over here ah, like like if if you want me to compare words and picture if you ask me what is more powerful I will tell you picture is more powerful


why because of whatever that I already tell you just now and so many examples that I gave you is such a good example, like like you let's say ah today you want to capture a memory your newborn baby you don't write an essay about it you take a photo of the baby right that's why my point is


is very powerful is very strong point that picture is more powerful than words, , ,


part three debate topic three


so you no need to prepare only cherry need to prepare okay


okay so this topic is about advertising encourage a desire for products which people don't actually need and this actually happened to me because you know now whenever we use social media right, advertisement is, everywhere like when you are using your Instagram your Facebook even when you're watching Youtube they just keep showing you unnecessary annoying advertisement that


keep prompting you to buy something that you don't need like for me, uh for me what I use that time oh I was I was going through AliExpress to buy something I actually need and then there's a lot of like you know advertising pop up here pop up there and then


you know those flash deal that say oh this flash, deal will end in like ten minutes so you only have ten minutes to uh get whatever that you want to get, and there's so many things that I don't need it but I see that is so good


did you and I went to buy it leh it's like what I buy that time I buy, super, useless thing like you know when you shower there's this shower head thing right, you know then, after, that ah even they never reply me


after, that ah I go and buy this shower head thing with LED light eh and inside got those what filter filter beads thing it's like why do you even need this in your house when you already have the shower head in the bathroom right and then, I went to buy, like that because it was like a good deal


ya so it's like super useless thing and I spend my money on that I don't know why and, still like, a lot a lot of useless thing ah, that I buy like I can name you a lot of things like like like you know those those cable you have for your phone with LED light I don't need it uh I have the original cable I don't know why I buy the LED light with the cable


and those cute cute wire for you to tie your cable together to organize your cables but, I, buy already and I don't use them so my cable is still in a mess and, then, still got what phone stand, leh, handphone case lah accessories lah all these thing ah you don't need one leh but you see all the advertisement


and it's just show you uh how cute is this how cheap is this and then you just like oh my god okay I'm going to get it and then you just add it to your cart and you check out and it's so annoying, I'm done with my point for now


but you don't okay I talk back about the shoes ah you said your ex-boss ah have two hundred pairs of shoe and then she see this limited edition that she don't need because she already have two hundred pairs of shoe but she still buy because of advertisement right


so it it proves the point that people will buy things that they, don't need it they are just like oh I desire like I want to have this, but but actually I don't need it but because of advertisement and then advertisement like brainwash you to buy things that you don't need you know


like not just not not just like uh very materialistic thing like shoes or bags or this thing and, even, like service like eh you know the app, Groupon Fave you know Groupon Fave they always have very very good deal right like they have like very very good deal like they give you some coupon uh cheap


what's that, uh, good package to buy like uh what eye lash, extension lah uh what eyebrow embroidery lah facial lah massage lah uh manicure pedicure like


all these thing ah actually I you don't even need them one leh like you look at me I don't I don't take care of my nails or my face or massage I don't care one leh, but then ah, you see there is this good deal like usually it's cost two hundred and fifty five dollar and then now


it's only fifty dollar then you'll be thinking, what it's so good deal leh, and like if you don't buy it then you are missing out on it, but actually you don't really need it so you just you just buy that, it's like that moment, that make you feel like you are missing out on that thing that makes you buy things that you don't need it you know I I don't know


you know if this happens to you ah like like maybe this this uh maybe this let's say this facial wash is usually one hundred and twenty dollar and then now !wah! suddenly it's on sale it's only for like sixty dollar then you will want to buy what even though you still have a lot of facial wash at home


right ya so so so that's my point lah


, totally disagree whatever you say okay, because whatever you say is something, that I I have no control over like I cannot control


that I'm not allergic to seafood right, I mean like, it it's like I, I do not know it just doesn't make sense whatever, you're saying ya I, I mean, you talk about !wah! I I don't know how to say it's like it's like you you talk about my allergy that I cannot eh you know it's very sensitive ah I tell you you talk about my allergy


eh, okay so uh how do I how do I how do I how do I tell you that you are not right, you, you are not right you are not right why you no,


you are not right you cannot talk about my allergy like this it's like you you show at me show me, advertisement about, seafood like very good deal for let's not talk about seafood lah let's just talk about something I don't eat okay talk about pork okay not eating pork is a personal choice of mine okay so you say whatever butcher don't make money from me all this thing it's not true what


like I see a good deal, I would just share to my friend who love to eat like you you love to eat right like so today maybe you have a lot of food already and then, you because of me I tell you about this good deal like this pork what ten KG of pork is only for ten dollar something like that lah ha very very good deal


even though you don't really need it but you will still buy it why because it is a good deal and you don't want to miss it it's like, err it's like uh, it's a chinese saying but I'll try to translate to english it's like you


you just cannot miss it you cannot miss this particularly uh extremely amazing good deal right so even if, the butcher or whoever the seller don't make the money from me he's still going to make the money from whoever I recommend this good deal to and people don't really need it


like even though let's don't let's don't talk about pork lah hor we talk about like ladies what they love they love to do manicure they love to do pedicure oh sales they love sales not just ladies singaporean loves sales okay, everywhere got sales, everywhere got queue like you see even hello kitty why


people need hello, kitty there's no need for hello kitty I I don't understand why people will go and queue up long queue early in the morning outside McDonald's just for hello kitty what the hello kitty can bring to you money ah, no right this is things that people don't need but


because, the advertisement like people keep showing advertisement about hello kitty this hello kitty that McDonald's blah blah blah then then people just like oh my god I want this they think that they need it but actually they don't it doesn't serve them any purpose at all


exactly so people don't need it


(ppc), , okay I think to wrap up my point ah


one minute already let me wrap up, my point okay uh my, point is I my point is, advertising is very powerful, because it influence you to buy things that you don't need, like whatever I talked about just now ya so that that's about it that's my point short sweet simple that's it


, , oh my god (ppc)


you can


okay so uh it's my turn now, okay so what you were saying is that advertisement are often entertaining but they rarely affect consumer


choice do you agree with it and I disagree with it, okay why I disagree with it because I feel that personally, advertisements do affect my choice maybe because I'm someone who is not very sure what I want but uh according to studies right actually advertisement have shown that over the years they actually do play a part in consumers' buying behaviours


uh I I do personally feel that advertising is a way of life, a very effective communication to encourage mass audience when they want to make a decision on buying a certain product or services right it's already at that point like if they are really thinking of buying something and this advertising of a certain brand of a product or service can help


to in a way influence their decision more towards uh purchasing, uh with that particular err merchant or buying that particular product from a certain company, so err like through many ways like I think that over the years it have already evolved to becoming most of it is on social media because maybe last time on newspaper and radio it doesn't reach out to so many people lah


ah I feel like maybe for me right just to share a little bit, like last time, because uh as a very super superstitious chinese right I'm always curious to know what is going to happen in my life


so I always have to ask my friends !hey! did you go and check out your Bazi or not like based on a date and a time that you were born right are you going to have a good life or are you going to have a very a very poor life this the in in in this life so uh I have a lot of our friends who share me like oh


err yeah I go to this feng shui master at Bugis ah he's very famous and then another one I would say oh there's this one that I go to at, err some other shopping mall also very famous so at that time I have so many options right I don't know which one to go but I believe all my friends that when they say that this particular #feng shui# master is good


after that ah I don't know why maybe god knows that I I really want to see a feng shui master I start to receive like flyers about feng shui master and like this feng shui master got a lot of award one singapore prestigious, award lah what service excellence award so many award I tell you like then I'm like what is this then


feng shui master so famous one ah then never mind I start to have a very good impression about this feng shui master to be honest, and then after some time I start to see on newspaper a very big like I think whole page is is his face then I see all the awards again it's exactly like the one I see on the flyer and they have a lot of introduction about him like this particular master right with how many years of experience blah blah blah and achieved so many award then after that


err ya everything is still going on okay so after that uh I have I start to have a very deep impression about this #feng shui# master and finally uh until one day right I really have this urge


uh I think something bad happened to me that day and I feel like I really want to find out what's wrong with my life and then I start to decide okay I'm not going to wait anymore I'm going to see a feng shui master, and I decided to go and see the best so in my impression right there's uh that feng shui master that I keep seeing his face right is the best


but actually as I grew up now right and from my experience I realised that actually advertisement sometimes, they don't really uh like oh is they don't really like tell you it's the best lah it's just like you know it's a sponsored thing so people just pay so that like people get to know about them but actually there could be a lot of other uh service providers that are actually even better


but, maybe not a lot of people know about them because they are not being uh made well known to the public that's why I think the advertising right is actually a very err is a very important is a very important communication ah and I think it will not be out of demand in the future


okay so you finish already ah okay so coming back to my turn again ah uh so you were saying that, uh it doesn't really affect me because if I want to see a master I will


still see a master actually you're right if I wanna see a master I will still see a master but in this point right what I agree with is, that , what what I disagree is that uh advertisements actually uh what rarely affect consumer choice is not true because yes I want to see a feng shui master I already have this in mind I will see it no matter


what sooner or later so it's whether I go and see a feng shui master that's recommended by my friends or it's whether I will see a feng shui master that I found from Google, right so Google also have a lot of paid advertisements but at that point of time uh many years ago Google is not still is not so uh


popular because most people still depend on television radio and also like flyers things like that or other more common uh advertisements that they see so for me right when I see an advertisement of course I didn't


decide to go for it straight away but however when I keep seeing it more and more often right it starts to have, a bit of impression in my mind that when I start to think about , feng shui master and then this master that I see in the newspaper start to pop up in my mind so it creates the impression in me and even though they don't affect my choice right now uh they do affect my choice


probably in the future in the long term as well that's what I think lah because for my case this is this is the case ah so anyway I went to see that feng shui master and I bought something from him and I don't really think it works like magic lah although the price is like a magic price tag so uh I still have it with me lah everyday and I still believe that


you know , I still believe that this , advertisement brought me to see him ah probably it's fate also but maybe at my at this point of time right I will not believe all advertisement that I see lah because maybe I'm more grown up already and from my experience I will not believe everything I see in a


advertisement but for the young and the naive and the innocent maybe when they see they don't know they will go to whatever that they see ys I still think that it will affect a certain age group of a consumer


uh I'm I'm alone but err there's people keep coming into my room so, just, sure sure sure sure sure sure


ah okay uh you have very good points and I really agree with you on brand loyalty uh now maybe I share with you about my loyalty also but it's not about brand ah, and this is where I think that actually advertisements again they actually do affect consumers' choice which I disagree right so what happened is like for you you are talking about uh cause you are Samsung users so it doesn't affects you I mean uh like to change to a different brand


okay uh but the thing is not everybody is like you ah not everybody have loyalty uh loyalty nowadays is very hard to find it's very hard to find in somebody, most of the time I think companies like Samsung will be very happy to know that you are actually very loyal to them but this is not the case now most people are going for things that are cheap


things that are functional things that are worth the worth the price of uh like not over not overpriced ah for the things that they actually pay for so for me is like example I'm also very loyal uh I always like to eat fried chicken over hamburger


example right okay I remember there was this day right okay I really want to I really feel like eating fried chicken and most of the fried chickens are nice right Texas Chicken, uh what's that Four Fingers Popeye's uh KFC right so many so many uh usually I will just eat any one ah when I see when I walk past any of the shops so that day I went to this shopping mall right they got so many fried chicken and all I eat


is like KFC Texas like uh everything ah like they have so many uh I think three or four then I find I just uh walk a bit [loh] cause I not hungry yet then I scrolled through my Facebook, and then I start to see that eh this particular fried chicken got a promotion


buy two piece chicken right uh got discount, then I decided that okay I will just eat this one because end of the day right I already feel like eating fried chicken but since this one is offer better value for me right so I end up eating at eating that that uh fried chicken ah from that particular shop [loh] so I think if I don't see the advertisement right I perhaps I will just walk into the nearest one that I will see


so again I have to say that uh I'm still loyal to fried chicken but I'm loyal to the one that offer me the most value ya


okay okay so uh to summarise my point again I shall repeat advertisements are often entertaining but they rarely affect consumer choice I disagree firstly this is because of my own experience


secondly is because I think that the market of advertisement is still growing and that's why you sees nowadays right there are so many people they want to become influencers YouTubers because they get a lot of like sponsorships, to you know do an advertisement for the company and to their followers and I think it does make it does boost up sales of the of the companies ah that's why it keeps coming in a lot of endorsements so uh I hope that uh maybe next time my kid can grow up to be a YouTuber or influencer as well


uh ya that's it I wrap it thank you very much


part two debate topic two


a picture is always more powerful than words what is your beef I disagree although I agree to a certain extent because we always hear people say that a picture speaks, a thousand words uh, and I think it is quite true to a certain extent but I feel that personally from my experience right I feel it's the other way around that words can create more impact on me personally uh why do I say that like let's say recently the COVID nineteen right


so uh sometimes the news comes out of my Facebook feed about saying that the foreign workers get tested you know and then there's a picture of a dorm and then when I click inside right I start to read the news


so at first when I see the picture I don't feel anything much, like oh it's just a it's just a a news about the virus you know, then when I read the news inside right so it starts to say what's happening now uh to the foreigners and what's the arrangement like and what's uh the government planning to do next I feel like I start to have a bit more uh


I start to feel like oh okay this is something that is affecting all of us and as I read the news I feel like uh it's creating a more stronger impact lah than just looking at the picture of a of foreigners' dorm uh that is actually being posted there


and I feel that uh maybe in the long run right uh texts can have a greater influence in shaping, political views uh among people uh, because the thing is for for texts right if it's well written right it can I feel like it can help to create a emotional response inside


people like directly or indirectly on how we view a lot of issues, uh like whether it's like domestic or international issues so, a lot of times images that is being uh posted


I feel that they are effective lah like to let people know, oh okay this is the current state err of of the of the of the affair but when people go deep into the text right that is how I think that actually text can start to change and shape people's opinions about certain things lah in the longer term


because probably it requires like more engagement uh on the part of the reader and I feel like it gets us in, okay still recording so I feel that because there's more engagement ah uh when reader uh goes through the text it it it gets them more involved ya that that's all ya


actually I do agree with your point of view but then again ah uh, I still feel that like okay although, picture, has a certain level of impact but words


can be spoken in many many different ways because based on our tonality also I think a lot of times , texts right can uh like words itself can be uh, something that make somebody's day or can be something that destroy somebody's day so there are so many words that you can choose to form a text uh that people can be mindful of what particular words to make that can create a really strong impact and have like powerful meanings ah


uh if they used correctly so for pictures err ya I mean is a lot of people now they actually start to take photos, and they start to post online but sometimes, pictures err one person can look it this way the other person can look it that way so


pictures itself if you want to depict a certain message right from the author the audience may not all of them uh not all the audience can actually get the same message you know because everybody can look it at a different way like example if you today you see a picture uh of a sunset


so maybe I will see it like oh you know uh it's like could be depicting that oh like uh, I'm really in my old age already cause it's like sunset already in my life but somebody some some people can see in this way that oh someone said it could be uh like a way to de-stress it makes me feel more relaxed to forget about all the


all the uh stressful things in life so I think uh pictures wise is uh too too many different views already but texts itself can be very specific so the things that is being put across right people will most of that most of the


time they will get the actual uh meaning that the author actually want to put it across so they can both be different level I think depending on how the person actually actually put it across lah ya like that lor


okay I guess maybe uh cherry is more a picture person uh than a word person however I feel that I'm more of a word person than a picture person , okay why do I say that ah so let's say uh a lot of times uh nowadays we use Instagram right so we


see a lot of like pictures or a lot of quotes you know a lot of quotes that people talk about uh like motivational quotes about relationship lah about success failure about everything lah or everything that you think about that are like


err quotes that you just type out in a simple text so a lot of, time I see my friends right when they share in their Insta story it more often than not it's not just a simple picture, with no captions but instead it's a it's a it's a it's a picture which is like a is like a blank uh blank page with just the simple quotes of the of the string of text over there and when I when I actually see it right I feel that oh


!wow! these words ah these few words ah in a sentence or less than a sentence has, so much uh uh meaning to it like it really makes me feel oh I do agree with it because I also go through the same thing, so I feel that uh may maybe right now in the current trend text might be getting uh more popular among people to express their views uh because they can co relate better with it lah


so I mean this is what at least I see from my social media circle ya


ya you're right lah uh I think that the word is the main thing that the the person uh wants to share in their Insta story but the picture is just like to add on so so that can make the words look not so plain lah


but a lot of times when they post the picture right it has to come with words because when there's no words people don't really know what the picture is about ya


so you know what happened is when the person post a picture without caption is because they just take the photo for fun there's no meaning to the photo that's why is no caption, but if there's a meaning to it they will put something that definitely with some text right like if they feel something for it why do I take a picture on my side and there's no caption because I also don't know what to say I just think this photo is nice I really have no I I I also have this


it'd be in this situation right I take my own selfie and I think this is cute but I don't know what to say so I just like find something, ya like hashtag OOTD ya


actually no leh I think instead I read when I see the picture I will say eh what happens ya but I will go through the text to know what is actually going on in detail


the picture is powerful correct it caught my attention but the words are more powerful because I don't have to know what happen through the words


you are right I do post pictures of my baby but I do put a caption as well because otherwise people don't know what is the purpose of me putting the photo there so when I when I put the photo I will indicate this is her first month this is her second month this is the third month this the one year old if not people must be thinking I, everyday nothing better to do everyday post a photo up there so I don't want people to mistaken me so when I put it clear in text form they will know that uh it is for my memory keepsake lah okay uh I would not say you are wrong like a picture is powerful more powerful than words uh I think


there are situations whereby a picture can have a lot of meaning as well but sometimes if it's uh a very strong uh words right they can come across to be more powerful than pictures so it really depends on uh which one is better


err ya uh I I think if it's a good picture of course definitely the picture might be better lah but most of the time lah from my experience the words are better always than the picture and that's why news always have a one whole one whole essay with only one picture


right straits times and uh all these they don't put a lot of picture why because they know people most of the time you want to know what's going on, ya, okay that's it I wrapped up


so do I stop sarah you are muted now can you please unmute yourself


part three debate topic three


okay uh coming to the last point let me read the question again advertising encourages a desire for products which people do not actually need


I don't agree with it totally because I think that advertising encourage, the sale of products for people who already have a desire for it like example my ex-boss every time I see him he wears a pair of new shoes


every time really every time I see him he never wears a repeated shoe so I asked him one day like uh like you only have two legs ah you buy so many pair of shoe for what, I mean like you want to wear one time and then you put it in your cabinet at home and frame it like a trophy admire them every day like what's the point of buying so many uh shoes so


for him right uh for somebody who is very willing to, uh spend money and splurge on shoes because he always somehow in his heart right he has a desire for shoes same like some some ladies they have a desire for bags today they can buy Chanel tomorrow they can buy Hermes


after that they can buy any other bags lah okay because they have a desire for branded goods so I think advertise advertising right itself, if you don't desires something for that right it's very hard to get people to buy it lah I mean most of the time but for people who already have the desire it's easier for you to sway them in okay like maybe he already have like two hundred pair of shoe he don't really need another pair of shoe


but he start to see these advertising !wow! now there's a limited edition Adidas, and uh and uh and a Mastermind shoe you know they come up with this new creation it's limited edition and he'll be like !wow! I have to have this pair I really have all the limited edition shoe I need to get this one also so it stir up his desire again and then you will go and buy it for sure but for people like me I just wear shoe for normal I wouldn't go and buy that shoe lah my slipper I can wear ten years until it's spoiled


so I'm sorry in this way ah , for myself it's not that case ah uh I I I mean this is how I see it lah okay uh from my example and and then again let me tell let me let me give another example, like uh


I always see TV ah Facebook lah everywhere uh advertise on uh Durex condom okay, but if my girlfriend she doesn't have a boyfriend so what is she


so what if she see like a hundred times of the advertisement she's not going to buy it right she don't have a desire to use it uh I think that's my point lah you need to have you need to have a desire for the products and then the advertisement can switch you to, you know to making more purchases or to instead of buying that particular brand to buy their brand but if you don't have a need for it it's very hard for you to convince to convince yourself to buy it uh ya that's my point


okay ya err okay coming back to the shoe right cherry you're saying my ex-boss have two hundred pairs of shoes so whether he see the advertisement or not he will still buy the shoe uh okay you have to understand that the keyword now it's not about advert


uh advertising the keyword now is about desire whether the person have a desire for this, now my ex-boss right he's a shoe freak okay even if there's no advertisement one day he shop around marina bay sands and if he walk into a shop window shopping and then he saw a very nice pair of shoe he's still going to buy it so with advertisement or no advertisement he still gonna buy a shoe


because he is somebody who get so used to buying a shoe always desire new shoes whether or not he see the advertisement, he if without the advertisement he is still gonna buy it and you talked about facial wash you're right like if I use a facial wash for hundred and twenty today and if tomorrow I go to uh atrium and I see that there's another facial wash selling for sixty dollar I will still buy it yes


but the thing is I do use a facial wash so there is a desire for this product uh I will think to myself that after I finish my old one I don't have to buy a new one any any time soon as well so instead of getting a hundred twenty I should get one at sixty dollar so it's not about buying something that I don't need but instead the desire is there it's just


when I'm going to use the product now let's say coming to you right cherry I tell you I show you very real example because you are my very special friend who don't eat seafood out of all my hundred million friends, okay you don't eat seafood so it's very hard to go out to eat with you now if you go through Facebook right you see a lot of


people a lot of sellers nowadays they do like uh bidding lah they do a lot of like selling uh, Facebook live they selling fish lah cockles lah uh stingray lah , everything on Facebook and for for a person who don't eat seafood like you you don't have a desire for seafood at all at the most is if you see it's a good deal right you can tell it to me like !hey! #shi yun# there's a good deal now you buy ten fish and you get five fish for free but


to be honest there is no way that the fishmonger is going to earn a single cent from you because you're not going to buy and eat it it's not because perhaps you're allergic to it lah it's more like maybe you just don't like to eat just same like how you choose chicken over pork right cause you don't like to eat pork it's not that you are allergic to pork


so it's pretty sad that even the butcher is not going to earn his money from you only when a store that sells chicken can can earn from you because you choose you love chicken you have a desire for chicken,


you just say you're not right


just say okay I'm right


come let's have a drink, , cheers no ah okay uh okay


how should I say it ah like I get what you're trying to say about the advertise advertisement but now the keyword is not about advertisement uh I I think that the essential topic that we are trying to uh go around is actually about desire like whether this person right, has ever thought of buying something and does advertisement have an impact to this person so you are right if there is a good deal for pork right you will not take pork


because it's a personal choice you don't have desire for pork you can share it to me I don't eat pork every day but I do groceries every day today I can eat pork tomorrow I can eat chicken I can have desire for poultry I have desire for meat so if you tell me there is a good deal ten KG and then you get like five KG of pork right I will buy it yes because a good deal recommended by you


it's trusted uh like it's from a trusted friend uh firstly and secondly uh I have a desire I think it's cheap uh, I eat pork anyway so I will buy it so I think the desire is there uh I I will buy it you know like uh you were saying about err this pork right and also about hello kitty right like yes hello kitty what can it do useless what you put at home #pai shui# only and


collect dust only right and then sometime later you sell it to people who will buy it also people who don't need but they have a desire for it they just like I like to collect hello kitty lor because it's cute they also don't need what can hello kitty do for them can they sweep the floor for for them or can they uh do do uh


throw the rubbish for them the hello kitty is just like a soft toy on the bed it's damn useless to be honest it's damn useless but people just yes, the thing is why people still buying it because, they just like it lah it's just a desire like they oh it's winnie the pooh oh it's hello kitty and I


okay but for me it's different my desire is not on this kind of soft toy so I never queue up for hello kitty soft toys one they can never attract me like no matter , now today you buy a uh, McDonald's meal and then you get hello kitty it's quite worth it lah right because given that hello kitty is limited edition and maybe you can sell the hello kitty away for more expensive price than the meal which is a good investment some people buy it for investment some people buy it for collection because they have the desire what whatever they want to do with the hello kitty lah


but for me I don't have a desire to do anything with the hello kitty I think it waste my time I'd rather sleep at home I don't have a desire for this kind of collection or I don't want to earn this kind of investment I think my sleep is more important I have a desire for sleep, so in this case the advertisement is not going to work for me at least in my case I think uh if I go and eat McDonald's it's because I want to eat the food I want to eat the fried chicken not because I want to have the hello kitty


advertising is powerful advertising is strong but only to people to create impressions for people who needs it for people who don't needs it the advertisement goes into the left ear and come up from the right ear


so uh that's how I wrap up my debate lah alright thank you


uh we just read the topic right okay uh consider the view that spoken language is more important than the written form


uh, okay uh I'm sheila, so uh I'd I'd start on the, ah I'm the proposition ya so I actually uh encourage more on the spoken language is because


it actually helps to we're be able to bring up the emotions of the speakers , and also communication in a shorter time, like a, for example some arguments right, that the, that we need to speak and uh it's more clearer to actually express ourselves rather than actually on a written form sometimes when we write is not exactly uh what the person who's reading can be interpret on our emotional


ya, so it's also more direct ways of uh to deliver some, mode lah ya, in compared to uh written language ya, so and also the tone


uh, because sometimes ah we'll be able to express ourselves uh, uh, where we speak so uh like the tone wise uh example if let's say who are frustrated, or maybe someone who being sarcastic so I think using speaking right then you'll be able to actually uh elaborate more and the person who hears it right will be able to


uh like , feel it lah they will be able to feel it but as well like if its return, then the expressions or how uh it actually depends on the person the reader the emotional of the reader so even we put a exclamation mark and we know that a exclamation mark is for like shouting or


a loud reaction but then it doesn't feels the the impact doesn't feel it so directly compared to speaking, yup, so this is why I'm I'm encouraging more on the spoken language uh instead in compared to a written form language


now is important


okay yeah understand that uh but uh we are unable to stay connected with the audience right on a more personal level compared to the written words uh, like example many politicians right where they are having some uh they do have a great speaker and uh who can actually runs a rally in a crowd together for common purpose lah


so so they're be able to elaborate more using a spoken a spoken language, and they'll be able to express and where uh they want the things uh where where they wants


the, it is more focused for them lah where how they want to deliver their objective over to their audience, and if for written words right the some of the audience might not be able to, uh, uh receive the information from the speakers so it is it depends on very individual


ya, so and also spoken language right is a very economical form uh, uh, compared to the written that allows us to express our thoughts, , although is similarly to the written form uh, but


it is like so , direct and so easy, uh, I'm sure like especially on our daily conversation we don't want uh to write everything in written to talk to uh your families or friends because it's just a


even for casual talk so is more expressive uh and easier way for us to stay communicate uh complicated and in touch with uh it it that's a personal touch uh compared to written form


pass over to uh label


okay yes it is but I feel that like uh okay although now nowadays lah we do have like advanced technology and a, uh, to do all the edition or maybe where we speak we can also edit uh to


express but if written words right is a more expressive you know everybody can just flash flash on the TV or your screen and then let everybody just read then the whole conversation one will be very silent


and sometimes it kind of uh boring too because is too silent that you might want to like you might want to the feel you feel like dozing off yeah but then where you express yourself with our body language maybe we have uh some of our hand


sign and hand signal so uh it is like it become more uh interesting and they're just like storytelling so uh when the teacher tell us about the,


story and uh it become more expressive, and uh more interesting, and as well as movie we also use spoken language to actually flaming the show


rather than putting everything on screen and ask you all to read like a you know like a book so we were just read and yeah I think it's quite bored and at the end of the day, people uh


movie and books, if is goes where same story yeah I think people will rather choose to go for a, a, movie than reading a books maybe books is uh I mean sorry the written form so is is kind of uh like


just during your, free time you might want to take out and and use it as a written form ya to read it or something like that


yeah I think err although it is like almost similar whether is written form, or the uh, spoken language it is also, uh, faster in a more efficient way to, to


let the party know that uh what we actually want rather than we like sit and then we write and then we think and sometimes uh it might be misinterpreted by the written also, , so uh we we kind we kind


uh, I mean I'm I'm more, , agree on spoken language, it at least like shorter time


I expressed my my opinion for the my views for the spoken language, , I I still feel that a spoken language is more, important written are, than the written form


oh so that means


oh okay I I feel that spoken language right, is more , it's easier for us to break the ice so is sometimes is like just a, a a simple , language that we spoken


or probably the same language that we spoke to, to uh each other, we find it like closer, and uh, more intimate like, and and it kind of like a, distress in a way


uh to to, talk even though like to a stranger we talk to a stranger, like uh as and when, maybe you saw this person and then you just express yourself and just say hello and and it is very easy to break the ice you cannot be possible like passing a note


to a stranger and say hello and the stranger might not be able to, read or understand, the written form and what are you trying to actually communicate, to to to the people ya so where


if we approach with a spoken language right it will be very direct and they immediately right they can actually feel and get, the the, signal what you're actually deliver to them


then they will feel like maybe if it's like, uh, happy or joyful day and then you just simply just smile and say hello they also can feel what you are trying to express


uh, the greeting to them, ya, rather than the written form you cannot be expressing joy, feelings to them directly


yeah I think even if technology right, uh is a, nowadays is very useful but after all is not so, uh direct uh, communications, ways to


express the feeding of the speaker, I mean of of the, the the writer or the speaker ya, so okay example like the politician uh they can, convince they need to convince their people, and


and they need to bring out what their ideas and what they want to do, for their people, if they just simply have a written form and show it to the people, and, the people might not be able to understand where he's coming from and what he's trying to to actually uh


delivering the message to them, so uh, it it kind of like a misinterpretation at the end, of the day so even though if they runs a rally uh or


they have a group discussion, then so, by reading it they it's not so effective


but we can use a different, like uh speak if let's say he have communication problem and, then we can use a different different kind, speak uh of a speaking to the person and uh or we can use a very layman term to actually uh to explain to the person in all


maybe in a much


yeah but they can we can actually because they don't under, understand where are our point so that's why where even though twenty minutes right the message doesn't get across to the person but if uh we can speak to


their language their


but written message right it could be misinterpreted to him also


second topic is there any, value in preserving, uh minority language in the world


okay (hmm) K I think uh ah minority language is one that is uh spoken by less than half or some country or


a region that means is uh, very a a, less usage, uh for certain countries or maybe, in their region, ya, example right for mandarin although mandarin is a widely uh


especially people who speak


it's not a easy language that we


from young is actually uh, we we start from young where out grandparents talk to us uh to uh on their own language the minority language uh but then uh


uh it's like slowly as we grow older we speak, more fluent and but , for the youngsters nowadays right, they kind of uh, they only speak english and mandarin


although it is not purely sentimental, so languages are significant significantly uh interesting their whole field of study devoted them like a, in their history relationship


to other languages relationship to the culture in which they exist and so on so , we just want to value it


uh minority language to be like uh became an endangered


ya but understanding a languages even help us to understand the way we think, some believe that the language we speak in uh influence the thought uh that we have or even that language is what makes thought possible why do we call some ways of valuing sentimental because they


they have, a particular personal connection, so ya uh and also example things that have, personal values are value much


less by people, who do not have the right sort of personal connection to, to them okay uh, maybe to the person, , other person it might not be so relevant because there is no connection but to me personally there is a connection


so I still uh prefer the the value of the, minority language although it doesn't spoke like, through out the world so , ya and another way of being sentimental is valuing something that is


connected ah like just now I I did mention that uh, something that we really care, okay examples our parents, uh like to stick our drawings on the features so it's kind of sentimental, uh for certain people ya


and especially myself ya, so I kind of, stay I I feel more connected when I spoke to elderly and I'll be able to speak their language, and, and it's also a ice breaking, uh between both of us so


so they they kind of like happy if you really can, uh, speak their language and uh they they don't feel so awkward


but I do feel that there is a bonding between uh families and we need to maintain this kind of bonding, using uh the languages the minority languages that we spoke to them without this language there is not much conversation between the both party because both parties speak different language


like example the youngsters speak english the elderly speak dialect, so dialect is also one of the minority language that , uh we're using it uh the I mean the elderly is using it so they are they will feel much uh connected uh if the uh youngster be able to speak their language and they will be able to share more


their opinion or maybe their experience, and , telling their life experience also to to the youngster so they can actually have a very good uh family bonding between


uh, the elderly and the youngster rather than, uh, each person just by speaking their own languages and after that the most they will be a very short conversation and maybe probably they see


see, the elderly and say, hi granny and, the last word that they end was bye granny ya so I still feel that with that minority language that the elderly speaking all


it is kind of like bonding and is in let you feel like more family bonded environment


but minority language have their unique part of it and it's kind, of like, we can say it's like, historical or maybe uh they have their own culture history of it of course where we speak sometimes we do not know the background of uh how this language being formed but is is you need to cap


as like what you say hundred years it goes on it it could be a historical by then but uh it's still a very uh, , a language that uh we should kept rather than let it just die off


and , uh it is a waste because everybody have actually put in a lot of effort to to speak to learn how to speak and and then uh after the years because nobody using it and then we just let the die off


which I feel is such a pity uh that's why we still need to value and preserve, the minority languages, ya, it is just like some certain culture like peranakan culture it is


is a culture that uh we don't know maybe uh most of the chinese do not know but it's good to actually preserve it and let the next generation actually see and, have a feel of it and and the and uh there's a beautiful how this culture is and they will know that oh that there uh there have this culture


and uh same for the languages also oh why uh these people are speaking this language and is can be very interesting to to the people around us also


ya but you can hear it by yourself and communicate it uh, uh to people and use it so so is kind of like unique a unique language that we rarely use sometimes we do think that eh does this language really exist but if you really can speak I think this is good enough ya


topic three the book has no place in modern society (hmm) the book has uh been replaced by the uh


uh, advancements in technology in a digital media uh no uh what we usually call like e-books so I still feel that hard copy


in a, books is still , err, we still need to keep ah for for the book although nowadays a lot of people is not using and mostly using a e-book and we hardly wants to keep the uh


the the, hard copies , uh because , the books is still substantial and important is because uh you know sometimes technology fails uh maybe our, uh, gadgets spoil so it is kind


of uh good uh to have, uh physical uh books to keep with us ya to have the ownership of the book, ya, that that's why I feel that we need to keep ah


ya but then people do have like sentimental value to the physical books like example if you want to your friend's birthday and you want to give her a gift so you can give a physical books to her


at least there's a sentimental value and where he wherever she see the books she remembers you uh that you have given her such a good book but if you just send her e-book isn't !hey! you know you just click on this link and then you can get the e-book


I think the don't have enough sentiment mental value for her to for a memory for her so at the end of the day is maybe is a computer or the ipad then do the job


so she can just kept it and if let's say she got one thousand books in the icloud or uh on the apple store then it is uh it doesn't serve a purpose or a special reason


for her it's just another book in the in the icloud that's all, but physical is different they can use uh the books as a gift and then she can the person, who gave her can naturally wrote something on the book and to express her feeling and uh send the greeting to her and whenever she saw the book


uh, as she take out then she'll remember eh uh, this friend my friend have actually given me such a book and with the written message is kind of like more values and sentimental yup


yeah but it is actually uh everything that you store what if like one day uh there's no more technology maybe wifi down, uh then or maybe the lack of these connections of the internet, and also suddenly where you took out your iphone or ipad the gadgets spoil but the books physically it won't spoil so unless you tear it but then again is still physically there for you to actually feel it


and uh read it uh especially when you're at your leisure time you can take your time to actually slowly read, uh, uh and and and sort, ya and uh, feel it ya so and also example for the writer


uh, they can actually keep, the physical books too because they need a copy what if the the computer crash, and uh they don't have a backup so, and all their efforts right will be gone then they have to re-start all over again to write uh to write again but if they have a physical books with them


, this this will not be happen the most they just change, uh, edit uh some of the wording or or they just uh write continuously write uh continues their writing yeah and it's kind of past time to rather than everything is on the phone or on the gadgets ya


I think I think physical uh having a book is more important at least you have a backup records


but if let's say uh you find storage place is a is a is a concern can actually uh go to the library and library is very accessible and uh we can actually go to the library and look for the books that you want


uh then after that and any way is also free you don't have to own it, and uh if really now you want to find a certain topic you can actually uh, uh, register or maybe key in the library uh


the online to search for the book and instruct them to actually go to pull out the book and you can actually collect at the e-kiosk, uh, to to pick up your book that you want so you don't really need to keep so much and after all you kept so so so many books


then of course you don't read the books every day but uh because you have by date and then uh you bought it already you cannot be like throwing it is such a waste because some of them really have sentimental value but, but, those that don't have sentimental value and sometimes we do buy books do uh based on like a impulsive or we just want to have the books


and but we don't read read the books again and again or everyday so so you can actually certain books you can actually pick up from the library instead of keeping it at home so we can just keep those really really uh have a sentimental value


for us, so that we can go through and then as a memories of her friends or or the happy time, that uh, that uh we have like spend together


ya but then if you use so much on the like technology the gadgets, to, you will need still need to charge a you know nowadays we use a lot of data, and then we use a lot of, like a phone charging and more


so it is like uh, uh, quite a troublesome for me I feel uh every now and then I have to charge my, ipad, because of all my phone especially and in order to keep it running so although we do have like power banks to to help


us, but uh I just feel that the the phone the batteries runs very very low and and and books are for leisure so why do you want to take up our extra space in our phone or you know


ipad to to uh, to store it which we can actually do it very leisurely in at home or maybe outside where we really have a free time to to read the books and and is more relaxing to have a physical books on hand and


we will not be like example if let's say you go swimming and your hands are wet so, you won't be worried that your gadget will get spoiled or get wet but while books right even though it get wet right you dry it and put it there it get dries and you can continue you won't actually spoil the whole physical things yeah


yeah but you still need like very physically recorded, so, so if all is under input so is is like what if the internet is down you know sometimes the icloud can be down also and you can't take out your books anymore


okay


okay the debate topic will be uh consider the view that spoken language is more important than the written form uh, I disagree, uh although we are able to distinguish the mode of a person delivering


the speech but written language is also very important which make it uh easy uh to express


eh sorry I got my slide wrong eh, hold on ah


hello hello, ya the fact that the written word is more is often more influencer organised and vital make it more significant and crucial than the spoken word


uh signifying it overwhelming important a spoken word is more, applicable to everyday living because it is efficient and convey ideas quickly but I I think that written word is more influence uh because uh it is more organized


I feel that written words are more important because uh we can uh


uh we can see the context of what is the conversation and uh the context of for example the argument but uh because uh we we all come from different backgrounds and different culture


so uh we might interpret the body language differently for example the tone, uh the facial expression so by uh, using written words I think is very important


for example like in hospital uh if we are using only a spoken language, I think it will uh, uh not so relevant because if let's say in a hospital right we use our body language sometimes due to stress and sometimes due to uh


emotional problem we might interpret the body language differently uh in in hospital for example we need to do some, uh surgical uh procedure, uh written language is still very important uh to follow whatever procedure we need to follow in the hospital uh I see the point very important rather than a spoken language


hello


I'm more likely to to agree on the written form because uh after after few few hour we can still refer to whatever it's written like uh based on the example like the surgical procedure


uh the people might uh forget about it


ya also done mine


K I still feel that uh written language is still more important uh


because we can actually communicate a very strong idea and uh the information is stored in a whatever form written language is the single most important and far reaching technology available to human


and uh oh, we can still store in the in many uh different technology technology to refer to if uh we need to


okay for example some people have a listening skill uh problem they don't speak they don't


uh they don't err, they don't listen they don't speak they have all this problem so by having a written uh form of communication is very important for them because because they can slowly read


they can interpret and they can ask questions about it but if let's say uh there's a very good communicator uh they he tend to speak in whatever form they have like example he can as be very expressive


but this person might have some uh listening uh skill problem so he might not understand what you are trying to convey the whole message to to him, so I think this written language is incredibly important to communicate to uh this category of people


but for example this person might be very forgetful whatever you have spoke to him after thirty minutes he forget, so uh I think using this written language for this kind of people is more important after that they can go home and reflect and uh and to see what actually this message is all about


but some people uh when you talk to them they actually don't understand what you are talking after half a day, they still, call you and ask you more question but in fact uh because they simply do not understand and they don't have uh this listening skill


then how


so for example a personal experience I've talked to a person using his uh own


dialect, and he he he expressed to me is that he really understand the whole conversation I'm talking about , for the whole two hours but after that he went home he cannot uh he cannot absorb and cannot digest and he he he do not know what I'm going to talk to him


so uh at the end of the day I decided to write a whole uh the whole conversation I mean uh my ideas of the the message to him through an email


so I okay


I I disagree in uh preserving minority language in the world , okay for example preserving language uh minority language is like preserving nature we need to use a lot of time effort and uh even financial to preserve this uh language


it might uh also have some bad points about uh losing this language uh it is for example the culture will be lost and uh, but uh, but I feel that uh naturally uh after generation after generation all the culture forms are lost all the time


so uh I feel that uh preserving this minority language is uh not so valuable because , (hmm) in the end


not a lot of people are using it, and uh if the if not so many people are using this uh, minority language then uh that means no people are participating in this this kind of language for example english we everybody uh is uh using all the time and I think


(hmm), a certain language might have to use by everyone ah so it will make communication a a a better option


okay I feel that there's a six reason six very bad reason to to preserve, this uh minority uh language uh is because like uh some people just want to preserve the language just because they want to and they say they want to save the language because of the cultural


or history behind of the language or some people feel that that is bored, and some people feel that uh they might just want to learn another language or because it is cool, to me I find that uh


learning another language that everybody in, the whole world are are using are more important to me for example uh the minority language are already dying in the whole world I don't see any reason preserving it


and uh I feel that the cultural and the heritage and uh, uh the history can be can be preserve, but I don't see any point in preserving, the language and training new people to learn that minority language I would encourage


people to uh go for work to uh, learn a new language like spanish uh english or mandarin that the whole world are using it


ya I just don't see lah I know that language and culture are obviously highly connected but I believe that uh you can keep a language alive uh only to the descendants, if let's say people that uh


don't belongs to the descendants people hardly pick up uh that minority language uh, okay so I can I feel that uh people belongs to that kind of language they can actually maintain their culture uh maintain the history


but people are not interested in taking up this new language, is already uh to me is like it's already uh dead, so I actually believe it is impossible to keep a dead culture


is only for history purposes this is how I feel about uh the minority language in the world


I still feel that uh it's not necessary to, I know that is is for future generation but uh for example people in europe they don't uh they use don't use their language to travel around the world


to , to use their own language uh for example they they need to go oversea to to be employed but they don't use their own language to go there, they have to uh they they they can use their language but uh they still have to learn a new language in order to get a job in oversea


meaning to say that uh you can still uh preserve y'all uh minority language in your own way your cultural your history , uh behind the language and their future generation


but for for this uh minority language to me is already dying this this language is already dying so might as well we learn a new language and then we just move forward, to uh


because uh the the whole world is still using a common language, so might as well we learn a common language and then this minority language will be uh for your own to me is like for your own future generation your own purpose your your cultural maybe hundred years later you can uh the the future generation will know


what what is this language about what is this culture, about and uh and that's all, there's no point in keeping this language and it's very very very difficult to uh to preserve


a minority language, and and using and using this english uh it'll be more influential in the whole world like everybody like for example the three of us some people come and talk to us uh for example uh spanish


we don't understand when when when we don't understand that is not a language anymore to me, uh I feel that uh whatever we need to speak whether is written form uh or or spoken form we need to have a common understanding which is whatever you have communicated to me I must understand and you must understand


okay


ya is is uh like I say we can actually uh preserve this minority language in another way which is we keep their culture we keep the history and I know that uh all these minority language is very interesting


to the uh to the people but uh for, their future generation I feel that is more important to learn a common language uh, to communicate with the world or in whatever purpose preserving this minority language is uh to me is not so important because is not a


it's not a common language but you but preserving it uh in a cultural form in a historical form uh for their future uh generation uh that's my point that's my point


okay I feel that uh there's no need to keep any book uh for the modern society is because number one when we buy books lot uh we buy books we need a lot of storage


uh I know that books are very hugely important to human , and uh to communicate technology and ideas , but then uh with the new technology uh we can actually buy uh all the e-books online uh we can are replaced by by all the technology for example tinder


uh the e-books the internet and we can store whatever information, uh in the apple ibook, in the icloud uh unlike, paper book they only allow for passive reading but in the internet you can actually make the information on the book quicker


and easy for people to assess when people want to know something when we want to know something we usually venture uh online to do a search and is very uh efficient and uh we save a lot of time, and for example we are in other places we don't need to go home and then search for the book and then uh do is totally a waste of time and I feel that uh the book has no future value


okay for example uh I feel that this uh book has no more place in the modern society is simply because