uh promote and also if you look around our housing estate to see the uh big blue bins and all uh so there are people who uses it, uh but problem is that I think that uh there are some who do not understand what


uh can be recycled and what can't and as you have mentioned so apart from uh recycling there're two other Rs so uh there is reduce and uh, reuse uh


but there's also another two Rs which is refuse, and, repurpose so looking at the topic that we have for today how far is recycling the answer to the problem of waste uh, recycling, it will help us but it can only help us uh to a certain extent because from


what I understand I'm just looking at some uh research in fact this is from uh national geographic, okay, so oh okay number one so not all plastic is recyclable, so plastic bags


not, all kinds of plastic bags are recyclable, straws not recyclable so in fact I think recently there has been this uh concerted effort among restaurants among retailers to say that okay we will not provide straws uh voluntarily


uh to our customers, and, that is so that you know this straws right would not end up in our drains in our waterways in the oceans where it could actually, uh be consumed by the uh marine animals and they they choke on it because I think that we have seen pictures of how uh like this turtle


had the straws like stuck at the nostrils and you you know so so such graphic images are very uh you know shocking and I think for those of us who are very uh, know conscious about, uh, the uh what it


does to our our environment to other organisms so you know we have people like okay buying metal straws and then glass straws so that, uh they can uh basically, reuse that uh straw all together


so there are also other uh products that are not recyclable so for example coffee cups, right and so with that, uh it it's like okay yes so risk with certain things cannot be recycled and you will have to actually look at other


uh, options right, and, I think we also know that you know not all plastics are created equal certain plastics can uh like water bottles right they have a higher recycling value


ah others they are non recyclable, and, there are even like corn based plastics so what are the set go to actually I don't know ya but uh all in all is like with all of these different kinds of plastics as available there's also that whole of thing which I think our system right now


even in this country does not actually uh support the level of, uh, recycling that's needed to even sort the plastics, right and, ya so, and, even things like okay let me okay I I'm going to say a point that actually I am guilty myself like after I consume uh a beverage from


the bottle then I will throw it into the recycling bin but actually what I need to do is to wash it first, right, and that's the thing you know recycling we cannot recycle dirty plastic, right, so you cannot recycle uh


plastic plates, right unless you have already wash those disposable plastic plates, so that is something that actually uh education needs to come in to actually help, uh the citizens to understand that uh this is what you need to do


and I don't think that we actually have, uh that in place, uh and I have also been uh, uh, joining like other okay facebook groups that talk okay about how we can repurpose certain items that we have let's say for example glass jars right


and, that in itself it allows, uh us to, uh, basically yup, we use that for other purposes I had seen it you know use for say storing spices condiments and all


okay so, uh, then itself like okay I've another group where it's like okay uh it says uh don't throw books, ya, so there are people who are like okay I have a pre loved book, and, I don't want it anymore it doesn't go down the rubbish chute so where does it go to


uh, uh you know it gets pass around so in a way it is uh is it repurposing yeah, so


uh now can but just now it was broken


thank you for your points I mean I would agree with you regard to the part about recycling right so a lot more has to be done uh to, uh educate uh


the residents uh the citizens about how to recycle what can be recycled and everything and certainly the time you know to adjust uh, uh certain uh, uh implementations


like you know, with regard to the removal of straws uh from the restaurants and eateries , uh, that is something that definitely it take time to adjust I mean take time to change because we're all creatures of habit , and , and then I think


very rightfully that you know this uh, right but, as as you mentioned about you know the, , current uh recycling rate we have, uh, in this nation is , per twenty percent and there's a goal to actually up it to thirty percent


but I think that is also actually a very uh implicit uh, uh kind of, of like acceptance that there is only so far that you can go uh to recycling, and actually I I love the point that you talk about you know consumerism we have actually we are actually


a, people who have actually , have been bought into this thing about uh consuming more and more such that we don't realize that it actually generates, uh more and more waste, , so and that's where I see that there's also this movement that had been uh


uh, emerging which is about uh minimum realism about reducing consumption in the first place so I find that that is actually related to uh one of the Rs which is, uh perhaps uh, refuse or reduce you know and


that's when no when we are actually mindful that how much we actually consume and we actually are very mindful to say that uh for one, uh perhaps, uh it could be uh eating less ya I I know it sounds strange because even


there are certain uh countries that talk about okay you know the leaders actually encourage people to eat less but then again I think that's also because of uh, uh, uh harvest problem okay and , ya so so turn itself when the individual actually says that okay I'll reduce by


a consumption, that will actually uh, help to actually generate, less waste at it it actually uh comes from a point about from a level of the individual and if that's something where I know uh from a individual it becomes something that uh a movement that people actually uh


uh, bind to then that can actually be something that happen, uh far, a more far reaching effect, and I was also thinking about how , uh, okay uh that you know we suddenly because of circuit breaker because of


uh, uh you know the people are not going out, uh, to to to buy food, so I mean I I watch the news yesterday because of that the amount of uh disposable plastics that had been, uh, uh use actually went up by twenty percent and I think it's because of such so uh you know special circumstances that you know it happens and uh it in the way some people might feel that you know it sets the whole recycling effort or perhaps the whole uh uh reduce uh you know reuse uh and refuse kind of like uh effort


a backwards but they're in a way because uh circumstances like that that's where it, uh, uh such such issues would uh, uh happened and uh recycling perhaps will help


but then again uh, uh, perhaps, uh it's not within our our control, as well so , that's where I see it so I think we still have, a little bit of time do you have any points do you want to


ah, that's why you are wrong actually yeah maybe I've been seeing some ads about a certain recyclable reusable uh sanitary items


part two debate topic two


oh oh is, ya proposition


thank you michelle I actually learned a lot from your presentation and I think uh you're actually in the very good position to explain this given of your


economics uh background which I have none and and all uh , but how how would I would uh, actually uh refute this is that uh perhaps we can say that the world was too dependent on oil


but, now the thing is that I do not think that the world is currently too dependent on oil and why do I say so I think uh first of all, uh as we uh know that you know renewable energy renewable energy is actually something that has uh changed the game


for uh you know oil producers, and, it's actually has shown us that you know it as uh you know been the most resilient to the COVID nineteen lock down measures , because of COVID nineteen uh first of all supply chains has been disrupted I think we all know that and with that a lot of the countries they have to actually up their uh production of renewable energy


to actually cater for domestic, consumption so, and because of that we can see that you know just something as simple as a supply chain disruption and at the very beginning you talk about how you know uh the dependence on


oil was brought about by this whole uh increase in demand, right but now we see that because of the supply chain disruption that has actually been reduce and uh I think starts


all across the world shows that you know renewable energy is the fastest growing energy source so in the united states in itself like from the year two thousand to year twenty eighteen it has increased hundred percent, right, in singapore itself I think there's also that uh


goal to increase our , renewable energy, consumption to thirty sorry not consumption production to thirty percent, by year twenty thirty if I remember correctly so that there are such goals


and, that set up by the various countries because they know that uh, first of all, uh oil production, uh it contributes oil oil production and oil consumption it uh contributes to climate change, right


uh it's, ya and that in itself it's something that I think most countries would want to, uh curb, and so with with that uh there are there's that push towards uh renewable energy uh consumption


uh another thing I wanted to highlight I want to highlight is this thing like this year it's very funny thing happened and which is uh oil prices dipped below zero, ya so so so far a commodity that is so precious and useful yet to deep to below zero because uh from what I understand uh because the stockpiles overwhelmed the storage facilities


so it actually means that uh for the commodity trader trader I actually had to pay you to speak it's basically say that you know okay, uh to store, my oil, right, so it has actually come to that stage where uh there is that


uh, that uh no I I'm actually uh reducing the price of, uh oil, just so that you know it can be, , uh it can be uh consumed


right so, with that how how do we even justify that you know that we are too dependent on oil it's like there's too much of it and I'm paying you to please just take it, in in that sense right ya so, ah


I actually have one from what what I remember right it just like political so you talk about how you know there's the OPEC which is basically a political block ah to basically say that okay we're going to control the production of oil and this gives us the rage this give us gives us clout but from what I remember it would also so


at the beginning of the year the thing was that uh if I remember correctly saudi arabia actually uh instead of decreasing production so as to uh artificially uh we know uh reduce supply and then


and hence increase demand they actually increased uh their supply why simply so that you know it would not it would not go the way of their allies as long that in itself becomes another political, uh uh bargaining chip so just now you talk about how you know uh oil in it itself is a a major trading chip but but it can actually be reverse you know


to a another uh site you know it can also uh serve in this way as well okay yes you were gonna say something,


, yup


part three debate topic three


thank you for a very, uh what


this environmental problems actually cover, you know we talk about water pollution air pollution land pollution climate change and, uh, uh you have also touched on it's not just using regulation as in uh punitive that is in punitive in action but it's also like using incentives actually


uh uh, encouraged consumers uh, uh citizens to actually, uh make certain changes or to refrain from certain actions , uh well I would say that you know regulation it does play uh important role


but the problem that I've, find with this statement the solution to all environmental problems is more regulation not education and , I disagree I disagree because, ah fundamentally I find that yes just laws are good uh


whether it be you know exist in bans or in incentives , uh, and I've, uh for me I find that, you have it it something that is, uh intrinsically uh that nope individuals believe that they contribute


to the uh, wellness of our environment they would do something to that and that would first need to come , through education and education in the sense like the very first thing that it would do is to create awareness


helping people to see that first of, all the awareness of a problem you know uh that our resources are limited, and that we need to actually all play that part to contribute to uh may touched upon


these and our previous , uh, actions that are being encouraged comes not from regulation


, but rather from education it comes from a personal , , agency it is a individual agency that I I saying that okay I want to do this and that's why I, and uh, uh partaking in this movement and itself so that's why I see that okay


uh it starts with education and or I was looking at this uh, self determination theory or where basically, when an individual has, uh that personal conviction to do something that you know the motivation is intrinsic rather than external that is something that actually would uh the person is would likely continue to do when the


person finds that okay I, I have uh, competence in this area, uh I have, a certain uh uh in same same way like a mastery and there is also that uh, sense of uh relatedness that because of a sense of community that know there are others that also


uh, does this uh that's, why people are able to uh continue in what they do and also because coupled, with this thing about autonomy that I'm not force, right, because otherwise if like everything it is you know okay we try to encourage people to


to say recycle because of incentives , uh, that in itself yes it helps but , , remove that incentive and you know uh individuals continue do it that's because they personally owns that conviction


and that is where, education it plays a very important role, and I think that is how the systems need to be built up it starts with an individual it starts with individual and then uh to an institution and from the institution then it becomes uh to the nation and nation and it globally


, and that is where everything it or it's the sum of many parts you know and that's where I find that uh that's, that my main , argument that uh while regulation works to the bans and incentives


uh that, would not be constitute they, uh, major motivation to uh in terms of uh, providing a solution to our environmental problems uh I I I find that is the way that this topic is being phrased


you know uh, rather than say that you know having a, more regulation and not education uh it should be complementary and it should be actually say that say that you know is not like say seventy percent regulation thirty percent education and there's no


binary uh, auction here but it is, basically uh everything needs to, we we need to do all all of that more more regulation more education


thank you for raising that point uh I think your your example of like how a company an organization you know uh, it's can be uh very compliant to regulations in a country because of the regulations and hence uh reduce uh like


uh, pollution or or waste ya but then uh, uh it's does so , uh, you know it it totally like oh actually uh disregarded and another country


uh where there are no such rules or less stringent rules uh that's I think that's where it's like a but we also see that I'm I'm sure that there are companies that would continue to do the same because they find that, that is actually written in their corporate DNA and this is a value which they find that you know I am a uh corporate social


socially responsible citizen, and that is where uh wherever I am in the world having business uh I am committed to doing good to uh the environment and that is uh that


precedes that goes beyond okay that that supersedes the whole thing about you know regulation so regulation, uh, is important but regulation is also something that will not force a company to do to go uh


beyond what it is required to do and so that is where I find that now there are more and more uh corporations who are actually , uh aware of that and they know that not only does it uh you know look good on them to be a a socially responsible uh company ah


but I think more importantly uh they find that this is something that I owe to I owe the community uh that uh purchase my products and services and they want to actually uh give back to the community in that way so


and that's when you know when it whether it comes to okay water pollution uh air pollution land pollution


uh you know show that they actually care for uh the environment and they're not just taking but they're also giving I think one company that I can think of right now is Coca-Cola so Coca-Cola being a manufacturer of beverages so it needs a lot of water


right, but uh, that is also that is a main uh CSR focus, ensuring that there is a clean sustainable water supply to the communities where they uh operate in which actually is basically uh the world so especially in in


a developing or underdeveloped countries so they will actually have projects where it is to help uh the communities to uh be let's say to discover new water sources to actually have, clean drinking water


so that would be something like that right and then, that is also where okay that is on the part of uh corporates so I can also think of you know individuals who also embark uh on uh do their part for the environment uh but no it is not because of


uh responding to the uh stick or carrot so people okay let's say for example in singapore you know it actually costs more to uh own and maintain a electric vehicle, but there is actually a growing number of people who actually has are switching to electric vehicles why because


there is that uh, conviction and there's ownership that you know it does good to the environment and so that doesn't come from regulation you know that doesn't come from you know a because the government gives you a tax incentive you know okay you own an an electric vehicle


and so I give you some subsidies there are people who are actually willing to pay more , uh to own one there are people who are willing to pay more to get that a Tesla electric car into singapore so that you know they can be one of the


uh, the early adopters of such technology so we see that that is you know the case uh where it is very organic uh, movement and this is you know uh something that is likely to be come a you know from a source of education rather than regulation okay I think that's the end


part one debate topic one


so basically I think right that, , sorry hold on ah okay I feel that, there shouldn't be restriction in restrictions in arts in our society because


singapore is already quite, uh, singapore is already very restricted in terms of freedom of speech like how we were one hundred and eighty one on the freedom of speech press in that


recently so for us to also start putting restrictions on arts, will be uh a direct attack to, freedom of speech in general especially in singapore considering the fact that, we


I am not allowed to say certain things because , people like, who are in places of power can use loss against you like they can use the porthmellow, against you so like things like this undermine our freedom of speech so


in order for so my point is that like in order for us to protect our freedom of speech we cannot put any restrictions in arts in our society also ya, point about like like explicit stuff it's valid like children shouldn't be seeing like certain things of course but I feel that


, instead of that being, blamed on, the arts itself, if you do not want your child to use certain things I feel like is your responsibility as a parent to


ensure that they're not being exposed to certain things I guess like uh we can have parental locks there's a lot of parental locks even like on iPhone also uh on Netflix on like, everything so basically if you are afraid that your child is not being exposed to


good things then you can, you are in the power to fix it basically is your own responsibility, and restricting the arts, is not a good solution I guess


ya so basically is your own responsibility , like recently we had, pink dot right but, because of uh COVID it was on it was online and then there was like a petition like saying that they should ban um


pink dot online because children are going to watch it but I think that's quite ridiculous statement to make because, you're in there and that you if you are , uh, against your children watching certain things it's your responsibility to make sure they don't watch it and lock anybody else that's your


responsibility so ya


oh, I guess it's impractical but, I find it weird, like for parents in general to censor their children


like, unless they are very young, because I feel that once you are of a certain age uh you should be able to be exposed to different things and, have, your own views on them


even if the things are maybe not so pleasant for you to see it but that's I mean unless you want to live in ignorance doesn't make any sense of for you to be so, sheltered I mean


for you to , say that everything should be censored just doesn't make sense , but I mean it's a valid point, especially for the elderly I think that makes more sense but if you are talking about like let's say teenagers I feel like they're


mentally capable of, like, making their own, like bucks and decisions themselves,


no I just paused, , no I just pause, I don't know I didn't


okay


oh I'm like birthday last month june as well , no is meant COVID lor okay so I think for singapore, the reason why the art should not be censored is


is, largely to do with protection against government pardon me so, basically arts, is an outlet for us to express ourselves like how like the way you were talking about the BTP video was a way of her to express the injustices that she felt


that she as a brown person was facing in singapore so for there to be restriction in like, arts, stops allowing people to express themselves which can be super harmful in our society especially


because, for there to be constant tension were also undermine the social fabric in singapore, , so through through arts without placing any restrictions you can openly talk about


things against the government or like, the injustices you feel as a minority et cetera et cetera so it's basically a really good outlet valve for us to express what we feel so in censoring that just removes the power that we kind of have as like people


because then it's like we are literally like, I wouldn't say under like a dictatorship but if you are, placing such heavy restrictions on the arts and how we are expressing ourselves then it kind of falls into that room of like


us having basically, not being able to speak our minds and, release a huge drag to, our freedom of speech


I didn't mean children I meant like teenagers , I think children of course there's a need to censor most things one, in line hello hi hi can you hear me


oh okay I wasn't talking about children I was talking about teenagers I think children of course, I think most thing should be censored from children , , but I think once you become a teenager then, I feel like you are


can think for yourself ah that's


I feel like that's a personal problem like i mean if you're teenager you, most they like and, obviously compared the children teenagers are, like more mentally equipped to like


think for themselves I don't think that's even something to that needs to be debated about , when you talk about duty please and you said like, her way of doing things was distasteful, I I do agree but I also think that


like you know, so many years of her feeling this way and a lot of, us also feeling this way , there have been like people trying to raise awareness but nothing has really like started a conversation like that video


you know what I mean because I think sometimes you need to be really loud for people to actually like hear and understand, so I felt like I felt like, it was good especially like because you know the whole like nets thing the bound face thing they barely like bothered to


, they barely apologise for it, , and they just like knowing that's only certain people approved of this was a bit, uh disheartening so I feel like high response me I've been distasteful but I think it was justified


but she shouldn't have said, , she shouldn't have attack anyone specifically other than the brand itself


debate topic two part two


okay I don't think reading books is wondrous, or the best pastime


and all sorts of other disorders reading can be super stressful, it uh may actually be, instead of like it being, a leisurely activity can actually be something that induces as a lot of stress


so , because of the fact that it may not necessarily be like universal for uh everyone I really don't think reading is the best part, I think ya


so it can be very difficult for people, other sports uh or or other hobbies for example let's say running they don't require you to, , it's not a not it's not really a skill it's more of something that most people can do if they are like able enough


and it it may not be stress causing, uh, so in a study published by uh the review journal autism and development disorders they said that us uh instead of reading that induces stress other pastimes like sports


are very beneficial to children with autism because it helps to improve cognitive and behavioral functioning, unlike reading,


so ya I think basically because of the fact that reading isn't necessarily universal for everyone I don't think is the best pastime also not just people that have, like, uh attention disorders for people that, can't uh afford to read


or they can't they are, they've they've never learned to read it can be also really stressful instead of something that


ya I mean reading does , , allow give , I mean, right information based basically you can find everything in a book that's true but the point I was trying to make is that


if people can't read, like then obviously they can't find a good pastime or reading is simply, like, stress inducing then it's not a good pastime but I think for regular people that can


that don't have such issues with reading, reading can be beneficial yes and what you are saying is correct but for specifically for people with dyslexia and other attention disorders reading is not, uh may not be a, wondrous pastime for them


also you said


there being , like a book for everything, I think that's that's good and important but, but, it may not it doesn't it doesn't like tie in with the point that I was trying to make


uh which is that if people find reading stress inducing eh they they know is not a good pastime for them okay so another reason why I don't think reading is the most wonderous, pastime, is because a lot of people


like let's say they work like five to seven hour shifts, which is like, most people I guess so, after a tiring day of work there's not a lot of people that would come home and willingly, read a book because maybe it as you were saying books have a lot of information


, so as you were saying books have a lot of information so it's a it maybe a huge information overload, for them and that makes it super mentally exhausting and not a good pastime cause pastime are supposed to alleviate stress but if something is tiring to do it may not


, doesn't necessarily like , it's not stress relieving ah , which is why I feel that most people don't like to read especially working adults reading, perhaps, can be something


people do on the weekend uh when they have a lot of free time but, you can't do it, as regularly because of information overload and because it's very tiring so ya


ya I mean I feel like, that's true, the living longer


I don't exactly know the correlation between reading and living longer maybe it's like being, found on something I don't know but, activities that also increase brainpower or like help to live longer like I heard like


I'm sure there's a lot of things that you've probably heard like, activities that you can do, I mean , ya I think


there are also other stuff that you can do, , I think for the dyslexia part, it's true that reading, more will help to , alleviate the stress that comes with reading but


, I mean maybe it's like a person to person thing so you can't really speak on the behalf of, other people but, from what I know and from my friends that have dyslexia they despise reading with their like everything so


I mean, true uh if you read more honestly, you will probably start getting better at it but , the process, in general may not be pleasant so I think that was like my main point


and , , there's also another reason why people don't read can also be because of lack of like family support


like people who don't have reading advantages as a child so, they haven't mastered the like, art of reading so when they are older, they they don't read for leisure but they read more as as for it to be like a tool


like instead of reading like books they will just like, it daily use it so that they can like survive day to day basis you know what I mean so , then it's not really a pastime for them


so ya


so I don't think pop music be frivolous especially in a, twentieth century a lot of artists are starting to use the platforms to raise awareness about certain issues that are important to them uh for example,


like I think in twenty seventeen childish gambino released a song this is america, which basically was all about police brutality racism and all the, important uh issues that circulate around america he also put up a video to visually display that where he as a african


where he as an african american man was being chased by police where he talked about he gave examples like, the shooting at the church where a white supremacist uh went to a shirt uh to a church and


there was a shooting where he came specifically to shoot african american people, so saying pop music is frivolous is not true because there are a lot of artist that actually care about their craft and want to spread a good message and


have, intentions of bringing awareness and shedding light on certain issues that are important to them even beyonce like every tour that she does or, her most recent tour that she did she had uh the names of all the men and women that were shot and killed by police


basically because of police brutality so this kind of issue actually, wouldn't have, been so talked about all over the world if it wasn't for pop music pop music gave the platform for this stuff to happen


basically it's a really good platform my point is that pop music is an amazing, from for uh, for, uh celebrities to talk about what like express, and shed light on very important issues through their music


which is really good they can also most of that a lot of them also , use their music, , to donate to charity for example you talking about the profit, yeah I agree that a lot of people who


, they who like a lot of artist care a lot about the money uh most a lot of them is is just that the sole driving for face on money but, there are also artist like harry styles and like ariana grande that


donated that use their musics also they may like ariana grande and justin bieber they they made a song together during the virus and all the proceeds that they raised from the song went to COVID nineteen reliefs for helping people in need so


I mean, there are two sides to it I feel like perhaps at first it's all about the money but once they are financially stable all of people do end up giving back, like even harry styles he sold T shirts and and I think a lot of the proceeds on the vinyl went to COVID nineteen reliefs so I feel that


pop music, because without the song in itself, the likelihood of people donating and actually using their own money to, donate and give the charity would be really little


like honestly speaking but as you said you just have to stream stream the song for about thirty seconds at all that money, goes to charity so saying its frivolous is a bit of a reach because pop music can actually be really important and help change literally help change lives


they also have, things like band aid thirty which they do every every christmas and all the proceeds from that also goes to charity and also michael jacksons heal the world and like


but I think pop music can really shape, the, entire world and it really helps to bring people closer together uh helps literally helps people in need, and also sheds light to, issues that need immediate steps and talked about


hi sorry it suddenly stopped, last point ya okay ya okay ya


I mean I guess that's true but I feel like, people using their platform regardless will make it to the tabloids so even if you are not a fan, of them you like let's say you like an adult and you don't care about pop music you will still end up hearing about these things so the message still gets across which I think is the most important part


also to me pop music, is important because it's a it's a really good outlet for people like for example it it kind of helps them like,


a lot of time people listen to music to escape uh pop music specifically is usually, like a part uplifting so that can greatly help those like mental health issues and sometimes people with anxiety they like want listen to music so it like


calms them down so, to me I don't think pop music is frivolous because it's literally helping people, mentally with them mental health and that's very important it's also kind of like uh outlet for people to express themselves


not just artists but when fans listen to the songs and then they internalise the word the lyrics maybe it's like, what they've been thinking but couldn't put into words so having someone else describe what you are feeling without you


having to do it yourself can be a good thing and helps the with like mentally I guess ya so basically stress relief type thing, mainly that's one of the main reasons why I think that pop music is not frivolous and it's actually very important especially nowadays with


the rise in mental, uh health issues especially with our generation I think music plays a very important, role in pop music specifically plays a very important role in keeping people in check and keeping people okay


so for those reasons I don't think it's frivolous


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part one debate topic one


okay so my argument is that there should there should be restrictions to enjoying arts in singapore society because seditious I believe that seditious material should not be available for viewing for anybody in society


the main reason for that is because I think that seditious material is intended, uh to invoke some sort of uproar or some sort of


unsettled emotion in the in the in the person that will encourage them to , go ahead and do something that isn't really , that that is very detrimental to society so an example would be last year this singaporean youtuber pretty please


spoke in uh uh uploaded a video stating a phrase that was really derogatory and really offensive towards the chinese uh ethnic community and it was taken down for sedition but


a lot of people didn't understand why why it was taken down you know and why was it considered seditious but this it was because , whether or not the quote is taken out of context or not the quotes if if you take the quote literally it states that it is a really direct targeted statement towards chinese people


and it a statement like that can cause uproar towards , anybody in the ethnic group that may not understand the kind of irony or or joke that was intended behind that statement you know so that statement was written in the song as an irony towards an initial an in an initial racist advertisement


but then people who are not really familiar with that whole irony comedic aspect of it may not really get the message get the message of it and hence may feel some sort of like unjust emotion or may feel anger, or or


just a general disdain towards that group of people who like created that video or to other people of her ethnic group in society and so like bringing back to the point like I feel like seditious material of any kind regardless of the intent should not be allowed in society


because it can be taken out of context and it can cause a lot of uproar and unjust feelings towards different groups in singapore which is not what we need as a multi as a multi racial and a multi religious society ya that's basically my my view of it


yes uh I understand your point about singapore already being very high on the uh I mean very low on the press freedom index , and ya that is a big issue of concern for for everybody in general but I feel that one of the main reasons why singapore needs to adopt this high this high this very strict stent on on restrictions and you know the and all of that


rules and regulations is because , we are very we we are we are living in a country where interaction with members of a completely different lifestyle or completely different background is is is is bound to happen every single day and no matter how much we try it it's very difficult to


completely understand their the other persons background and their experiences and how they view certain issues and everything and, so because of that I feel that to make to even create a piece of content that is that is meant to be directly addressing an issue or is directly attacking another


another group of people it is, it is very threatening towards our stability as us as a society , and I understand your point about how


parents who want to protect their children from viewing these content opt opt not even children like maybe the elderly who they would want to protect their own parents from viewing this content and they feel some unnecessary hatred way towards it


I feel that it can only go so far because children can access the internet in a place where there is no parental supervision so for example children can go to school , and you know share these content with their friends


in person like they can just sit in a group and watch the videos together or or the elderly can be forwarded these videos or these, you know or these online classes or these online group activities like like pink dot and may not understand like the background of it and you know they won't have anybody else to come in and verify every single thing that they receiving on their phone because it's just it's just impractical you know


so because of that I believe that there should be proper regulation in singapore whereby it clearly stated anything that that is intended or anything that is visibly or very obviously very defamatory or it goes against something that is


that is written in our law that states that it's that that isn't right , that should that should be that uh that should be what that should be the, stands that singapore adopts basically they should really be strict on on on all of these kind of falsehoods in order to like minimise the minimise the possibility of any disruption of the social fabric


ya that's how I feel about the the point whereby you mentioned about parents controlling the the children's activity I think it's just really impractical especially in especially now when every child access access to a smartphone and they requir it for like school purposes I think it's just very impractical


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to your point on heavy heavy restriction I definitely don't agree that the arts should be heavily restricted especially when it comes to discussing issues like the pretty please saga and like what she was


one thing to bring up I think that issues like that should be should be discussed and brought up in society and , and but I just think that there should be a tasteful way of doing it in order to ensure that most people in society are receiving the message and understanding the message without it being


clouded by any means by any form of anger or any form of any form of confusion that might arise if it wasn't done tastefully , and I think it's it's very difficult to to obviously


, conclude what is that degree in order to restrict the arts , but uh and and hence I would assume that the many people would believe not there should not be any restriction at all because who is who are the people that would decide that once once a particular piece of content crosses the the certain benchmark it’s defamatory it’s seditious


I I think it's it's very although that is very difficult to decide it is it is very important because , we want to promote progressiveness we want to promote you know, being being more smarter you know in a sense for these issues and that definitely is a proper way to go about these kinds of issues these kinds of sensitive topics without invoking any negative feelings towards


any member in society yes that's basically why I believe that there should be restrictions and and why I feel that I feel that , although it is simple ah although it is important for the child to


experience and view every single kind of opinion or thought process or outlook that there is there definitely is a time and place for these kinds of topics you know whether it can it it you know it can be in like a in like a


you know these issues can be brought up with like in like in a in a meet the MP session for example or , or it all these conversations can be done privately , but I think that in terms of like the public general sense where everybody can view a certain piece of information everybody can take home their own personal viewpoints of it it's very dangerous to not have any restrictions at all ya that's what I view about it


yes but to your point ya but uh sorry if I may if I may butt into your point about teenagers but like who, you know , for teenagers like like what is the line between crossing over from a children to an adult like some teenagers are more mature than others some some some teenagers are are not as mature as others and they cannot


received information in like the same way as as as, as other teenagers do like like like how like you know I guess it is ya ya it is really wrong to like to like I mean I personally feel like it's very wrong to like


I allow it be open be access to everybody ah ya you can continue


yes I ya I see your point ya


okay so the topic is assess the view that reading books is by far the most wondrous of all pastimes and , uh I believe that it is the most wondrous mainly because of the fact that every individuals experience in society every individuals background and outlook on life and about different issues is very different from one another and completely unique to themselves and and their life


and so no two people can have the exact same imagination, uh visuals uh , can infer the same messages from from from a book as another person so for example you know hunger games hunger games is at at a literal sense in a literal sense it


it's a story about a dystopian future with with these really terrifying rules and regulations in society and yet to any average reader that could be what they can take away from it but then to people who


have a really I guess philosophical mindset on people who like to , read a bit more in depth into the message of the story you know it can be a story about about revolution or it can be a story about


not not being satisfied by the status quo or to know your rights or you know something matter like that , and I feel that when different people take home different viewpoints of of of one story and when people you know exchange these viewpoints and people talk about it and discuss about it


it allows for a very rich exchange of information of outlooks of viewpoints between individuals and you know it can help to uplift society by making people in society realise that oh there are there are more than one ways to


view the same issue , and the so for that for that reason solely I feel that it is a really wondrous experience because , it is completely dependant on your life and your and your upbringing and your


and your baggage you know and your values and it can be vastly different than other people and can cause this major conversation and it can possibly lead to host to social social change , hence uh I believe that reading books is definitely wondrous


to your point about , reading being very stressful for for individuals and how there are other sports or other activities that could be of greater that could work better in terms of stress relieving and in terms of comfort level and those aspects I think


I think that one of the greatest benefits of books is that books can cover uh a wide range of variety of topics and in those topics you know you can find , you can find that solutions to help people who are facing these these kinds of issues so for example if someone is feeling very if someone doesn't feel that reading is uh err


easy task if they feel really stressed out by it the only way one of the ways the most effective ways to improve on that and to build on that is to read more right and there are there could be, I'm not exactly sure but there are probably certain guidebooks or help books out there they could


that are specifically written and catered towards people who are facing this problem so you know for example let's say like a children uh a child is , very disinterested in reading there could be books that are specifically designed and catered towards that lack of interest in the aims of that book would be to build that child's sense of passion for reading and and to


help him take home you know more more ideas you know out of out of that that that whole reading experience and , so I I I feel that it can the act of reading itself can help to alleviate a lot of these stressful


scenarios or situations that many people might find themselves in uh and you know even as for other activities like running if you want to compare reading to running or , other sports there are a lot of books that are written and tailored towards these sports


and improving these sports and for example there could be guides on how to run with a better form or how to swim and and how to how to swim with a proper technique , and all of these all of this information that are written most probably by professionals or people who have a lot a lot of lot a lot of knowledge and that all of these information and ideas can help to benefit or improve these other sports that could be


that could be you know of a leisurely nature to the individual so, basically to to to summarize what what I'm saying although there may be other activities that could provide leisure and relaxation and comfort towards individuals as compared to reading


I think the fact that the reading what makes me believe that reading is the most wondrous is the ability of it to provide information that could help to improve these other aspects and these other activities and hobbies that could make them much more fulfilling towards the individual


and for that fact and and for that reason I believe that it is the most wondrous


to your point about the about


people who have dyslexia not feeling that reading is a really , is is is not really the most excite exciting activity for them to, take part in because of their condition I think it's interesting to note that many ways that dyslexia that its condition can be improved is by trying out different readings strategies


and by can know constant practice and attempting of of reading in different styles and ways in you know hence I I feel like that ties in back to my earlier point whereby I said that when reading in itself can help to


improve, in you know certain conditions because you are gaining this this new experience you are you are you you are gain not only are you gaining experience but you are gaining this this, improved ability to to you know go back and read better so alongside that they


uh are also many other physical tangible benefits towards reading like for example it can improve ones focus ones concentration level it can improve


ones, ability to to relax you know in a in a sense , it has a lot of like physical physical benefits from the act of reading itself not just from the content but from the act itself and I guess from that it


also helps to link towards your point about how reading isn't , the great the the the best activity to do after after work because one would be exhausted from from working for so long I think reading


is a form of escape you know obviously it matters on the time of content but there are content that , allows the reader to to have this sort of escapism you know and from that act itself it provides the sense of relaxation or if you don't have that yet you know this is it is something that one can like develop and one can build


and you know you can almost you know I feel that reading is an activity that, can be built into something that is very that is very beneficial and and and


that is very beneficial and and and sort of amazing you know in a sense of , in a sense of you know like similar to yoga and and and stuff like that you know it can provide , a lot with the proper technique and proper practice and training of reading it can actually provide like the sense of relaxation and it can


give this it can help to calm the person and it can provide a lot of like physical benefits you know and it's really healthy for healthy for the person and I found that I found this yale study that that showed that


a group of three thousand six hundred and thirty five individuals who were given a thirty minute reading time slot every day regardless of their occupation , they ended up living an average of twenty three months longer than an individual who did not partake in this thirty minute a day reading exercise so from that from that statistic alone you can tell that there are these


tangible health benefits that can arise from from reading , and hence I feel that the ability of this act to provide these health benefits and also provide the sense of relaxation it's it is really incredible and hence I think that it is the most wondrous of all pastime for its ability to do that


I mean reading isn't necessarily meant to be enjoyable for every single individual although one of the benefits of reading is to to, feel this you know escapism into and and and to enjoy the experience coming out of it but I think


the reason why it's the most wondrous is because of the health benefits that I that I I had I had mentioned earlier and regardless of of one's background and regardless of one's difficulty in reading I think the undisputable fact that these health benefits can derive from from


from consistent reading as as shown in the study just shows that it is a really powerful tool and it's a really powerful activity


okay so the argument is assess the view that pop music is frivolous and I personally believe that it is frivolous , because of the fact that pop music by definition is popular music and the an important if not the most important aspect of pop music is for it to be popular


and what makes a song or you know or a musical piece popular is very surface level technical aspects of it for example you know whether the beat is is catchy whether the hook is repetitive enough so that it will


stick in peoples brains whether the sound is familiar enough in terms of songs structure is it a song that is easily sing along that people can easily sing along to, all of these technical aspects of it are are usually what drives the popularity and the success of a song and when people especially in todays society where we are


bombarded with different streaming platforms and the success of a particular song is solely dependant on whether or not I choose to click on play I think, , now most artists focus the most on these technical surface level aspects in because they want to drive the they want to drive the the impact and success of it


and so any deep musical meaning or any lyrical meaning is would definitely come secondary or would not even come at all if it doesn't help to impart any sort of


aspect to the song which will make it more popular , so you know there's many different aspects that cover this the choice of of collaborating with with a very current very popular artist like how lady gaga did with blackpink even though they speak two completely different languages and they come from


two very different societies one conservative and one is more liberal, you know it it it all of these artistic choices that are made today that really drive home (ugh) uh really drive home the the the view that they are not making pop music for its lyrical content and for its and for and for meaning and for and for


some sort of , you know metaphoric stance or whatever they are just solely trying to drive sales and success of a of a song and, a lot of the a lot of the


streaming companies right now which is possibly the most popular way that, users listen to music all the streaming companies pay their artist by the number of streams on their platform so Spotify I I know that Spotify pays artist a certain amount of cents per song streamed and the the songs streamed must be greater than thirty seconds


and for them to be counted as a valid song stream and is these issues that correlate with you know song stream uh uh the number of streams and and the amount of revenue gained and but they are not being paid enough for me to


operate my my work and sustain my my my lifestyle all of these pressing issues are definitely at the forefront of all of these artists minds , and hence I believe that pop music today is frivolous because there are a lot more important factors that drive into the success of pop music that


are much more important for the artist because it affects their livelihood and it and it it affects their chance of making even more music ya that's what I believe


, uh well I agree with you that that pop music can be used as , a platform to spread awareness on certain issues that the artist may have gone through or or maybe to better the community but then


if you if you look at how today's balls of music is run especially for pop music , whereby there are so many social media platforms like TikTok and like you know Instagram that that can boost a songs popularity just for the simple fact of it being featured in a in a in a video right


I feel that while all of these songs may be used in a positive aspect , sure while all of these songs may be used in a positive way that all come secondary to the main fact that the song must reach people


and that the song must must provide some sort of sustenance for the artist , because ultimately that is why that is the main focus of an artist is to uh establish relevance


and to be able to sustain themselves in this very competitive industry with so many new artist coming up with so many new songs that are that are being played but I think it's very it's very , reflective of like todays society because in the past


every artist had their own, , had their own unique identity and personal of like of like being individual you know every artist was was unique in a certain way and hence they relied on like fan support


to , uh dependant on like on on like fan support to in in order to like, to to , support the artist lah and like to push the sales of the artist whereas now now with social media and all of these different platforms and all of like the billboard rankings and stuff it is no longer a communication between


an artist and his or her fans it is more of a competition I mean it is always a competition between , an artist and relative artists and where they stand so for example you know the uh example you gave for the ariana grande and justin bieber song stuck with you


although that although those those proceeds definitely helped to support the livelihoods of those people who affected by the COVID nineteen crisis , it is also interesting to note that it is through acts like these that establish the relevancy and establish the so called success or or the or the


or it helps to build the personality of the artist so now people are looking at artists like pop I pop artist like them in a more relevant light because of the fact that they chose to participate in these kinds of things , but the mere fact that that the relevancy is at the root of this issue in the first place


kind of undermines and secondary , any secondary meaning or benefit that can arise from it ya so I think it is it is not it is not ludicrous to say that


it is frivolous because the at the basis of it it all targeted to ensure relevancy and , to sustain themselves in an in an industry I feel that artist like ariana grande and


justin bieber are able to perform these acts because of their , because of their foothold in the industry but if you're talking about the music itself if you to be talking about people who just enjoy music and enjoyed performing music the only way that a that their music will become popular and will attract people is is


through is is not through these deeper means it is through really shallow and surface level aspects lah because of that I I believe that it is frivolous


one of the main reasons why I believe that it is frivolous is because pop music in a genre itself isn't


is it is very difficult to classify what is what constitutes pop music aside from the fact that it is popular or that it is viral so for example electronica music or or you know dubstep those types of music were are are crafted are engineered to


to be music that are to be played in like clubs and , in a setting where it would encourage people to dance and and kind of let loose so there is a purpose there's there there is a a driving factor as to why someone would create an electronic songs


and for for and and and R&B song you know it serves as , it mainly serves as love or heartbreak and it's usually never deviating uh deviating from these two genres


pop music by itself the fact that there there isn't a a definition for it mainly shows that, that that what constitutes pop culture is not , it's not as important as as basically like it just shows that the the the the purpose of


why a song is being made is never as important as the ability for that song or the success of that song to become popular that's what the genre is is is classified by , and so basically to give an example of this ariana grande released no tears left to cry which was her first single after the manchester terrorist attack incident that happened in in her in her concert


and I think I think that this this this song is a very clear example about how pop music isn't defined by like by by a backing issue


so for example like in this case it was like a terrorist attack right but then it is crafted to make people want to listen to what she has to say after going through something traumatic as that experience , that in itself is the underlying purpose of why that song is considered pop music so because of of the superficial nature of the reason as to why a song is classify classified as pop music


I think that it is frivolous and it undermines whatever meaning that that song could have been possibly made for


debate topic one


okay thank you for, bringing this up in terms of your points uh I want, to say that uh on what you mention on the whole society being sensitive uh that's one and that we should have some restrictions in terms of like


, uh enjoying arts and also showcasing our arts forms and and basically the whole society to have like some control really uh in terms of my view I feel that there shouldn't there shouldn't be


be, for arts itself there's a lot of free play uh there's a lot of creativity and there's a lot of like, ways to express yourself so in order for that to happen right there shouldn't be restrictions because that's where like arts and creativity uh and everything cannot flow


firstly, then , ya, if we have like so much restrictions on arts itself uh when expressing ourselves through art, then and so much restrictions right then there wouldn't be arts in the first place


ya so, that's basically what I feel in terms of being, sensitive and having things to be in control because of the society being sensitive nowadays totally agree with that uh there should be some form but definitely not


not, restrictions to it, ya, uh in a sense where, uh having it controlled, that's one, but there shouldn't be restrictions from enjoying it like even even


even ways that people are expressing their emotions about being sensitive like even being sensitive itself that itself is a form of like expression of their emotions which is actually art, if like, the artist put it in a way of like their works or through uh even words itself like


ya that is actually a form of like expressing and that is actually art, yup, okay that's all I have for the first topic, or do you have any like comments


yes thank you for uh putting out your point totally understand on the debt portion like because too much of something will definitely like go bad and like you know like things can go haywire and stuff like that people can get hurt, ya


so I mean I agree to disagree there's certain form of like control be it like the governments or I don't know like people that can actually uh, put a standpoint on that or certain ways to control it but definitely like as what I mentioned I do feel I do feel that


, creativity and arts uh is a form of like expression and, also we we still need that in a sense to inspire people even though arts is not really like a form of like


, I'll say like what people are mentioning like essential, as of now ya the very sensitive topic , and arts itself, actually inspires people it's in our lives already


uh uh subconsciously you might not see it it might be like a form of like I don't know can just be like a wallpaper or like a, a quote itself, all these things are inspiring us already so we still need that in our life and in order for that to have


, we still need like creativity to flow and we still we still we should not like restrict to a form, where there's no creativity there's no arts in this society to inspire people for the better ya and the reason why


, even though there's like so many bad things happening in the world right now uh like in twenty twenty right now, like for example people are being sensitive about topics, and a lot of things,


happy and like, also signing the good petitions for example or like doing good cause, for people through art, ya, so I feel that there should be


be, like uh, total restrictions to art itself ya so from just a summary I feel that there should be a control form of like, ways to to


uh in terms of the sensitive parts but there shouldn't be like a full restrictions on on how art should be in the society right now


sorry can you repeat the last part


I mean to me , I don't, I don't really think it's because of the restrictions, ya but I mean, uh I agree to disagree so there's, uh this whole essential topic right that brought up by the society


is kind of like, the society itself are trying to restrict, in a sense like what you mentioned, but, ya I feel that artists are still, , they they are still they are still putting out their works and and stuff like that


to, to reiterate this portion and you know like even creating art about this whole essential uh topic itself so I think they are still expressing which is great ya I totally agree to that uh I feel that creativity should still flow in in this sense


ya so, I guess ya there's there's my take on that


I think I also want to mention like, , like like like the like the last quote that you will see it , too little of something is also very bad, ya so like what I mentioned too little of creativity too little of art and also expressing is also very bad


ya so uh I guess is finding a balance, ya, like striking a balance uh in between I guess that's that's the best , way that things should be in a sense so I mean too much or too little is is really bad so I guess we can agree that a balance is


uh shall we move on to the next topic, oh okay I think we still have some time so I shall state my last point on this so


ya like what you mentioned I do agree that , definitely there should be some restrictions, but like, in in the form of like arts itself uh uh people should still express themselves


ya so there should be still , not so much of a restrictions to to people itself lah ya and especially this society so that , I mean everyone can still come together in terms of like uh you know like have their own take on certain things and ultimately strike a balance in this society and hopefully for the better future everything is balanced and


everyone can see different points of views and, and form a better society, ya


part


uh totally agree that there's a lot of like knowledge and also books are definitely great , you that there's different forms and different like genres or different uh different types of books that you can learn things like what you mentioned and you can also uh get to know basically like what the writer or what people


actually think like what you mentioned totally agree on that, uh however I do feel that , books are definitely not the best of all, there are like different forms of like uh there's in this uh in this age right now there are like different forms of like uh options where you can actually get all these things that you mention all these uh


positivity and of course uh knowledge as well you can get it from different forms of , in a, even more bite size way rather than holding a book and bring it out like what you mentioned you can bring it to the beach as well


yup so currently, uh in this modern society there are already and also with technology being so advanced there are of course our very uh uh bite sized phone which we bring it everywhere even to the toilet and just everywhere ya so


like for example and it's so convenient because there's like different , platforms that you can access, or like different courses or different classes that you can access through your phone or even through your tablets if you want like a


so you can you can actually, read up as well like articles it doesn't have to be books there's like different articles that you can easily access just like via your fingertips


via uh search engines, or you can go onto like YouTube uh video platforms to watch videos and and also you can actually hear actually you can connect and also hear thoughts of what people think


very easily, we, uh through like videos as well ya in that way you can actually see uh you can actually see what they are they are expressing, not just through words itself ya you can actually see what are their their thoughts


, what are their opinions on things and you can also learn things so right now there are like so many , endless possibilities of like topics uh all over the internet right now, ya, that I can think of there are even like science topics educational topics there's also like uh even debate topics that you can find online


there's also uh about arts and culture there's also about uh, even if you want to see like literatures sort of stuff or ya there's so many things on the internet that you can access and there are like different variations or different forms that you can you can pick up like knowledge and you can pick up like thoughts of people


through the internet, ya so that's sort of my take on that and uh as you mentioned on the part where, ya, you want to go on first


okay thank you for sharing, yup so , ya I totally agree that, uh, you know like it's it's totally a classic thing uh for reading books uh definitely, that's how things started right in the past where people pen down their thoughts and uh basically just write and inspire people or just share what they think that's totally the a very classic thing and also like flipping the pages all this is uh something


that you can only get through reading a book, definitely, uh but I don't feel that, I don't feel that it is the best the most wondrous of all pastimes because like what I mentioned there's also different other forms or there's so many different ways that


basically people can inspire or people can get, uh, get the feeling of , like traveling for example like what you mentioned from books the same feeling that you can get from uh through reading a book


you can actually also get it from online for example there's so many technologies there's games online as well there's also, there's its so advance right now there's also like AR VR and NR like you know things like that that you can get that form of like excitement uh you can also get different like feelings


as well out of all these ya so uh I don't I do think that it is classic but I don't think is the most wondrous pastimes because uh uh times has changed there's so many other options and on the feeling of like travelling and all these you can also actually


view like uh videos online for example or even like a AR video online to feel as if you are actually traveling now that we cannot travel due to the COVID nineteen situation, , ya you can get that same feeling through uh internet as well


and, the part on like I just want to tap on the previous point on like reading books you can get knowledge right so recently uh there's also podcast, which is also rising right now, so it's sort of like another form of reading in a sense but not reading of course hearing uh podcast is sort of like trending and rising right now so they which they mainly cover almost all topics as well and a lot of genre so


uh I do feel that that is also one option, that you can get into other than just reading, I feel that podcast are also , is is the new wondrous of of pastimes because you don't have to read you can actually like just easily access it you can get you can get to hear the emotions of the writer


the person that actually uh uh writes all like their thoughts through podcast ya which is awesome and ya I feel that there's other than just podcast like why I mentioned previously there's so many other forms of ways to find that same


new excitement, ya, that people are looking for and, ya definitely, we are in this modern age there's there's so many other ways that people are still developing and coming out with different ideas to


to to, uh have their best, okay thank you that's all I have to say


thank you thank you for sharing, , I mean on this topic where pop music itself is frivolous like there's there's a lot of ways that we can look at this I do feel that pop music, uh definitely is a new is a new


is is like a, improving and also is like changing everyday as we go on music itself is changing everyday like what you mentioned , uh there might be like inappropriate content in some of the pop music but definitely not every single pop music itself I feel that there's a lot more to it as


as music itself is a also a form of like expression and, and a form of like connecting with people similarly to like books and, to, like different forms of like creations or like, even like art itself is music itself is a form of like connecting with people or trying to also uh send a message across through their through their works ya so I do feel that there are still a big


a big group of like music and pop music even are still trying to connect with people still trying to send across a message subconsciously through through, even pop music even though it sounds like really like just very happy beats or uh it sounds like it doesn't mean anything


but actually to be very honest I do feel that there are still like a few or a lot of like pop music itself if you read through the lyrics, or if you actually go and like uh watched the interviews of like the artist itself uh where they explain like how some parts of their music or their lyrics or their creation how they started this song this pop song could have like a deeper meaning


to, or something that they are trying to uh send across like for example uh one of the one of the song this is america, ya is trying to send across a message to americans as well even way before the whole black life matters uh things


ya there's a lot of like deeper meanings even though it sounds really like upbeat and you know like it sounds like oh it just doesn't mean anything like this is america but actually ya like even today like as you can see there's a lot more, to what is happening to america like it's not just a song uh like seeing things that uh doesn't mean anything


there are a lot of songs that are holds like deeper uh thoughts of like, and also uh a last note on this I do feel that pop music is also trying to connect with it totally connects with the new generation the new age through this music so it's definitely a good


way of like where artists can still send across a message and connect with the people in this new gen ya so ya that's my stand on that


I think your internet went off, okay let me just touch on it, ya, so totally understand that, ya I heard, but the last part it went off okay uh thank you for sharing ya definitely understand that there's


there are like, a few songs out there like maybe just a few that are that is ruining the uh the people nowadays in terms of like being like damaging your brain like what you mentioned or brain brainwashing some of the bad thoughts


or the negative thoughts to people uh especially a lot of young, young crowd nowadays that enjoy uh pop music itself uh, ya, there there would be, these few songs, all this there will still be bad in in a good thing in everything I feel but definitely uh pop music is still really


connecting with the new generation is very popular like what he says pop music, so there are still good in it as well


but all these pop music artists are really popular to the generation the new generation right now so I do feel that they are still using their music to send across good messages


rather than just those negative ones who are trying to brainwash uh on like bad topics and stuff, but there are still pop music artist out there that are actually , trying to connect people or bring happy thoughts to people as well or even to like motivate people to be happier with their music itself because pop music generally it's like more upbeat uh or more carefree and of course


I also feel that, right now in this, new, in this new year like twenty twenty itself is a very like stressful period with a lot of things happening right so pop music itself are still around uh and pop music is great that is still trying to


to, motivate people to get through their day even though it's like times like this they are still creating songs that keep people moving and and not lose hope or not lose faith in the world like people pop music artists out there are still trying to do that


uh even though times have changed and there's a lot of bad things happening ya and I think that is like really great, uh definitely its not something that is as frivolous as it is there's also a deeper meaning to what artists are trying


to do right now ya, that's my stand on that


part one debate topic one


for today's topic we'll we'll be talking about should there be any restriction to enjoying the arts in society, and before starting off like my point, for me personally I just like to mention that when it comes to art there are, endless possibilities that define art


so to start off my point I I do believe that there should be restrictions to enjoying the arts especially in the current society that we are in right now, I feel like the reason for that is because, , everything goes haywire without a restriction so you need a restriction to most of the things in life and that even comes down to enjoying the arts


so art comes in a lot of different forms and different, like different terms of arts, and, it will also feels like when you have too much of something it can be bad for you and that's when you need an it a restriction


for it, so arts and society nowadays have been very sensitive like there are many kind of forms like example , people doing arts just, as a hobby as a passion but some art can be like destructive in a way so if


we don't restrict the destructive art, people will come in and be hateful about it so then it will affect the art, this will affect the , people that have seen that piece of art it can be anything it can what if like the person just suddenly decides to do a hateful


art in a way, and then if we don't put a restriction on, that, it's just gonna ruin a lot of things and, ya so, basically most of my point is just like, there should be a


restriction in arts especially in the society that we're living in right now when everything is so sensitive, and, it feels like it's the least you can put


uh okay so understanding your point I do like you mention that , you need a restriction but not too much in a way it so you you mentioned that having it controlled but having it controlled it somehow the same way as giving restriction to enjoying arts


so, when you say like having the arts controlled and everything I just feel that it's exactly what it is should like it should have restrictions in enjoying arts even tiny bit of restrictions is still restriction


like what if the, like the society finds, that, probably giving restriction to arts is a good choice, you know like because it's just it it adds up somehow where whereby


all of the, sensitive things that are involving in the arts in this society people will take a stand for it nowadays anything like if you see a lot of like petitions and everything people just sign the petition so


I feel that if, there there's one time that uh, you you put out a restriction that oh I want to restrict this form of art or like , you cannot express yourself too much in a way


people would definitely sign petitions because I guess that society nowadays likes to take a stand for a lot of things, so taking a stand for having restriction in the art, I just feel that it's a better way for everyone


so then it's like what I mentioned before previously too much of something can be bad for you even if it means you're just expressing yourself you're just doing what you know like makes you happy in a way if arts is used as a hobby it's different than putting yourself out there


because if it's just your your interest and everything you can't hurt anyone, but what if your art goes to a point where it starts to hurt, people and that's where I feel that


it should be they should have an restriction be it the timing be it the form of art, just those little sensitive


okay so I do agree with what you say on the , art, and the whole art scene being a non essential thing, and, uh I just like to say a few things on that, like it


if it's already in an article and everything and I do understand that people try to like it it was a big hoo-ha about it , about arts being non essential, but, in that case if there was already like people and article saying that arts is a non essential thing


won't it then like makes more sense that oh maybe it's because of uh the restrictions that, arts have become, a non essential thing, it's because we put a restriction on it


so it it somehow becomes a non essential thing okay, so uh like what I said


like, there there is already an article on it on how like arts is non essential and all that and there was a big hoo-ha on it right, so then if, there was already an article on it and like with arts being a non essential thing


do you think the reason for that is because we do put a little bit restrictions of our art, in this society, that's why peoples, see it as like oh it's a non essential thing, because of


some restrictions that were like


quite an interesting take, and I also do feel that , restrictions in arts, enjoying arts in this society can be done or also cannot be done in a way


like I mentioned previously quite a few times too much of something is bad for you but also too little of something , can be also bad for you in a way, so I feel that, in conclusion in my opinion I just think that


there should be a restriction to enjoying arts, in the society as, especially in , this, new generation and this society that we live in, currently so, it's it's very wild in a way


so everything needs, just, a slight restrictions, and, next my closing point


so , like this, to just take your point it's basically there should be restrictions but just not too much that would stop, people from producing, art


in this current society, okay that's a fair point


okay thank you


part two debate topic two


debate topic would, be assess the view that , proposition points I just come to say that as someone who's an avid lover of books I definitely do agree that


reading books is the most wondrous of all time, and there are many reasons why I feel that this statement is powerful in a way so reading books


when you read books there's so many things that you can pick up and the amount of knowledge we get from just reading books is, literally endless, books do serve a purpose, you can read it just for fun to gain you can also read it lah to gain knowledge


so we have like, now we do have a lot of books that uh for example some of it's like it's a guide so we have guided books like the book guide for dummies or you can even go to reading sci-fis and with that there's just endless of possibilities of what you can read


with just in the books because like I mentioned uh if, when if you don't know something you can just look it up in a book uh there's even travel books nowadays whereby you can read up all about the country before you go online for that and the best part about it being a good being an amazing past time it's


of its accessibility like you can literally take a book anywhere with you, uh you can take it on a plane in the train a bus ride you can also take it like to the cafe, like by the beach and all that


so uh in a way that it, somehow is the best is because, you get the joy of reading like when you hold a book you get the joy of reading and you also opens up your mind your


knowledge and things like that, so, it's as much as it is a great pastime it's also very beneficial, no matter what kind of like books or what genre of books that you are reading it's, it's like you're reading people's greatest thoughts in a way like uh for example uh any kind of authors when they write a book


you are you somehow feel that oh you are reading their greatest thoughts written on paper and I just think that that's a very, uh good, it it makes you feel like oh !wow! so this is what he was thinking in a way, and uh


also like , for books you can take it anywhere so it even comes in a kindle like a tablet form so some even though you are not reading like a physical book, it's still a book in a way


so then that's why I felt feel that it's, really the most wondrous past time because, it opens up to imagination and things like, ya ya okay I oh sorry okay


so I appreciate your point where you said that there other options available for you out there, uh, I just want to add on something that I didn't mention before but, it's just have most, people that read books they would agree that


just having , the physical copy itself is a wonderful feeling because then it's a real page turner in a way so when you read books and then you open up and for example the the chapter leaves you on a cliffhanger


which I think makes it uh a very wondrous feeling in a way, so, it also like , it also means just


you you you have that excitement feeling and nothing really compares to having the physical copy of a book in your hand, hands and, and uh actually to quote a line from a research done by research gate it actually said that reading and travel are similar in this way so when you read or when you travel they open the imagination and exploration so one of the inner world and the other of the outer


world, so it's also like a, kind of like a, escape for you although there are many different platforms available online like watching videos I just feel that it will not be as satisfactory as having the physical book copy book on your hands and it's just the feeling of like turning the pages


and just the smell of books to start with, book, have a very amazing smell, and yeah so somehow just reading books and, uh travelling is somehow in the same way you you really open up your imagination


I feel that even if, you can see all that happening like what you mentioned like on YouTube where they express themselves and you can see their expressions


and having the excitement like what I said , and I although I still think that people will still go over to all these different platforms or different pastimes and everything but it's just a classic one like reading books is by far also


a classic pastime, especially uh nowadays where people like to just, you know find out more things or find different things different hobby and uh to mention also we went on a circuit breaker and a lot of people pick up books as a hobby in a way in to pass time basically and I just feel that


it really, also helps to expand your vocabulary and all things like that, ya okay uh actually just okay to pick up from I


I do agree with what you said on, like, nowadays people are using podcast and everything like that and you mentioned about VR and things like that but imagine like a child okay, but not really like a teenager or a child and as a parent when you see your kid like reading a book compared to them


having the excitement on the VR wouldn't you feel like oh he's reading a book you know like you would feel more contented in a way, just because you can see your child reading a book, and he's like full on enjoying it compared to having like uh the VR and like playing games online that kind of thing


because I feel that if, to put yourself in a parents situation when you see your child like reading books you would think that oh he's you know like expanding his vocabulary he's learning something, compared to him just spending a lot of time on uh video games or all these other things even though they do bring


more they do bring a lot like you mentioned like some of them bring knowledge and you can learn something from it but I like I just feel that having a physical book in your hand gives a different uh perspective


like the perspective that I just mentioned is like if you're in if you're a mom of a child that kind of thing so it's just a perspective, thing


actually picking up a book rather than, uh, being online in video games even though they're both somehow educational, ya, so that is somehow what is one of the point that I wanted


to uh bring up after you mentioned that but I do agree that, on but this is just one of , and like never somehow it's


never goes out of style in a way like it never goes it nevers never dies but the trend of like oh reading book just never dies ya so to end off this discussion


part three debate topic three


we're assessing the view that pop music today is frivolous, and before I start off , my points I'll just, pop music is definitely in a trend nowadays everyone of all ages is listening to it and there are many many different kinds of pop music


when you say something is frivolous, to me I just feel that that means that it does not have any serious purpose or value and , pop music would definitely be one of those in that category


so in this, current generation of society we all know that at least ninety percent of us listens to pop music, and, uh the lyrics in this pop music, lately have been very bold


in a way and there are many things that could affect that, for example that some lyrics are literally written to brainwash you , which definitely certainly has no serious purpose or value like rap music techno music all this there's no in my opinion I feel that there is no actual purpose


that or value to it, and, when you say pop music , you would definitely just have a few songs in, mind and, most of the times you you like it because it's


probably a good beat or anything but, pop music today in this generation, many times, it's , their music is definitely frivolous most of the time because of the lyrics of the inappropriate content in it and if you think about it there are people out there that will watch that content and


pick up from it in a way so it's like brainwashing you and actually there there were some research done by a few scientists that they proved that pop music is literally ruining our brain


so like I mentioned about brainwashing, and all this kind of thing I just feel that, in this generation pop music is frivolous, because there's really no serious added, like


or like mature content inappropriate content all these like where is it gonna get you, you know it's not gonna get you anywhere and it has it only has negative effects on your brain and


ya so that's my view on, why I feel that, pop music today is frivolous, okay uh <B>


firstly you list out a few good points that I would just like to, touch up on , I do agree that pop music nowadays is also, used to, bring out a point in a way like what you mentioned and it's


somehow also to open up peoples eyes on what's happening around the world and ya for that point I do agree with it but uh I just feel that, pop music has definitely gotten worse


if you would compare this generation pop music and you compare it to older generation pop music there are many many different things that pop music today, is, in a way that's extremely different from what pop music used to be so in the past pop music


just used to be, like for you to enjoy without deeper meanings you know like it's just, it's just music and you get, you know like music for dancing music for any kind of situation


and, I do know that because of the generation change like we're currently in another generation, music change with it, so why why like pop music


changes to become even more worse, than it used to be before, if, even though times are changing but they can still adapt, adapt, the older generation, music sit to it so, how like it just explains that


even though with the current moving situation of this generation, they could actually, have, somehow relate and take notes from the older generation of pop music, and


you know change it to make it fit as well, like I feel that, now pop music right has negative effects on your brain in a way , so then if example if like you are a pop music fan you are a huge pop music fan


uh you can literally, ruin your own life with it, in a way like you find yourself just, listening too much to what this artist is trying to say and if it has


a lot of damaging in lyrics, like, uh lyrics that could brainwash you, you, or brainwash you, likes, strategies and that kind of thing like, there are many many many different lyrics, that touch on sensitive topics like suicide and all this kind of thing so


it's definitely frivolous in a way what's the point of trying to get across that message when you know you're just going to be hurting others, in a way with that, so ya, so that's my point for


why I do feel that pop music is definitely frivolous and there are a lot of nasty things that, have been said in lyrics


really agree with your , that you mentioned on, how like, it can be any form of other lyrics


to instead of like, ya can you hear me okay okay sorry about that okay


so uh as I was saying I do agree with, your point, the one that you mentioned about , , how do you feel that there are, many like motivational lyrics out there to give you a great, start


that point I definitely do agree, but as you mentioned before previously that there are really some songs most pop music lah on this actually uh extremely frivolous in a way that they when when they are creating this song they don't really


think about what they are putting it out there and in fact uh you can actually now you can actually file a lawsuit if, let's say you find a music super frivolous which I feel that is somehow a good


point but obviously in order to file, a lawsuit on the artist, you would definitely need more connections than just, being, a normal person like for example me I will definitely not file a lawsuit on someone, who is


putting out frivolous music but I will just simply not listen to it and I'll definitely encourage people to not listen to too much pop music nowadays


especially in this generation is very frivolous, and I mentioned that you can, there was this article where they mentioned that you can definitely file a lawsuit, on , a song if you find it too frivolous that kind of thing, and, coming from your point when you mentioned that


uh, different artist can put out different, songs to like , help someone in a way and that's actually a good point, but if you put that artist like one of the artist in a room of art fifty other artists who has frivolous pop music he's probably not going to stand out


because of all of the other forty, nine artists that are writing better, sorry not better but more frivolous songs


not them, music that they put out is part of a serious value like they don't mean, anything it's just there to like it has negative effects to it


so, that is probably my point on why I feel that, pop music today is frivolous and uh I just feel that we could have done better, in a way to uh stop not stop listening to it completely but


to be better in a way yup


part one debate topic one


okay


okay, can I start, uh so the topic was asking there's no such thing as bad publicity, is it true I think to my personal opinion it is true for sure


to a certain extent , of course everybody would like to have certain uh amount of air time uh be it for companies or individuals, they wanted to create a certain, image or probably certain hype about themselves


even though it's on the back uh image or probably bad reputation uh but they just want to get their names out there two different people to different uh, target audience, so I think uh for example some of the companies are using all this uh


bad publicity probably I would say exploit, all these bad publicity are actually to to sort of, create uh a hype, uh for their marketing strategies, mainly maybe about their services that they going to do or probably products that they going to launch example


, there are a lot of copyrights law suit for one of the companies on the certain products, and uh it's like a patent technology and then it became a, uh sort of like a top of the town uh people was looking into that product the handheld


vacuum cleaner product example and then uh, then people was looking at it and trying it out , there's lot people copying here and there but I think that also gives a lot of , I would say uh


people who are , looking into those products to try it out and see uh how is it feel , the the original or the fake version uh off right I would say the copy version but so like it's it's more like uh


I would say a very smart , advertising strategies to let people know that such a product because met not many people know about all this, and I myself would not even, know that such product if wasn't all this sort of


publicity was was all up online on all the papers and all that and all the articles so they're sort of writing on all this controversial points yes, oh I I tap I tap already tap already I'm sorry I should I should just reply sorry I'm so sorry


okay so and then , okay so train of thoughts is lost okay so besides that also may not be a electronic products it could be a, I would say uh


a branded clothing brand uh maybe example when you walk into the store the feel that you getting it , it wasn't really very pleasant but it was mainly to serve those people so it giving view a very,


I would say a sort of image that uh that particular brand is only serving, certain class of people, and then they sort of also building them up to a certain stage of the brands uh the reputation that you want to to gain so


so that is it's uh one of the main things that they I'm seeing who are why bad publicity it's it's not a bad thing, , because based on the targeted, customers that they want to go to they they have to do waste or also to to stay relevant in the market


, I think that's mainly from the companies point of view I think for individuals basically people who wants to be famous , uh wants to be well known of course this is uh of course some people will think that uh why do they want to do such thing to themselves to get


famous or probably to be the talk of the town but I think it's really depends on certain characters or individuals of the person, uh they just want to be, known by people even though is on a for the bad reason


at least their names is in the mind of people they stand a chance of being remember I think this is one of the things that they have been , sort of , hoping they could be, I think


uh to to those people may be they they after they gained certain fame or reputation state could be doing some, , I would say brand ambassadors it's it's sort of a there's motives and ,


sort of plans on what they want to do that I I believe that, all these bad publicity they do have a motive behind it uh what exactly that they want to achieve, , be it good of uh be it it is uh a very bad publicity actually it still works for them


because all they want is just to get their names out, to be , to be relevant I think that's the that's the whole thing , and, yup uh am I done or no


uh actually coming to your Samsung point I felt it's a a very good thing uh I think that that is what I'm saying exactly uh uh, a bad publicity they handled it very well they they, they sort of regained some of the market shares because of that incident of course in the long run uh may take them some time to run through some of the


procedures and all the protocols, before they they can go to that level , it it regains at least to my side I felt it's is regained my confidence to to at least to even want to consider Samsung phone uh because I have never like


any other phone than apple uh where I she that the part that they handle it shows that uh I mean as asians being asians I don't think that will would, want to make the same mistake, twice uh that's the reason why I think they would do extra precautions and all the extra necessary steps and uh