introduced a new line of swimming attire, and this was supposed to help reduce water resistance and promote gliding in the water, and, so like we were all we were all agree that this was a technological advancement right


right yeah so yeah, so, it so in this case this was able to help the swimmers swim better, and perform better in you know a competitive state but


in this case, wouldn't that mean that our skill levels have actually lowered, and were lower over time because of, you know an over reliance on this equipment that we might have, or things like or things like let's say sport shoes maybe sport shoes like


nike maybe they released a, sports shoes that can, a pair of sports shoes that can help you run a lot a lot faster, so that it doesn't that mean that your skill level, both lower overtime as as as long as you keep using that those pair of shoes


yeah but I I understand your point that, this technological advancement has brought us broad humanity forward, but in terms of skill levels, in terms of skill levels per se I wouldn't say that you know it has


had a positive impact on our skill levels, ya, in this in this in this category


I agree but ya, and when you put a let's say an average person, of like an average fitness an average athletic let's say from a third world country and an athlete from


let's say singapore so cause we are first world and like we we can we let's say we are competing with someone from the third world country so, it's actually from like, in terms of actual skills when we actually let's say it's a swimming contest let's say it's a swimming competition so


, the person from singapore he probably has had many many like equipments and sponsorships all the way throughout his career so he has, grown used, to all this equipment all these expensive equipment but


for someone in the third world country I'm not uh sorry I'm I'm, not to stereotype but, I would say that, a person from the third world country wouldn't have as much spending power to spend on things that you know might enhance their skills so we will take it as that


this person from the third world country has been using very basic equipment uh very basic swimming trunks and all that so, when we assume that, I would we we, I'm pretty sure we will all say that the person from the third world country will probably perform better a lot better than you know the person from singapore let's say


and, that's because of the reliance, on technology, but , when we say, had a negative impact on the skills of people, we are also only referring to


a set of skills things like what I just mentioned, and motor skills et cetera, but when it comes to I guess things that require training before you actually start on the real training maybe let's say when you take your driving test


now there's actually a simulator training that you have to go through which plays out things like accidents, things like, basically very accident prone roads and very, these different scenarios of accidents so I would say that actually enhances our skills our skill levels and


personally I would say that people that drive now would be more, will be more skilled in a sense, compared to people in the past but that's only in, this category of skills that I'm that I'm mentioning


well yeah as for the former skill skill set that I mentioned I would say that, it had technology has had a negative impact on our skill levels,


okay ya, that's that's that's about it,


twenty, okay , ya fifty eight


oh wait, so wait I I stop and submit first lah


part three debate topic three, okay


okay so start (ppc) so


I agree that, every country should have the right to carry out unlimited scientific research so, this research would be used to actually alleviate human suffering find solutions to global challenges like climate change medical breakthroughs


in the and in the process these scientific advancements and scientific research shouldn't bring down other countries or cause unnecessary harm to humans , animals or like even the environment, and that


is when a country actually follows, ethically on carrying out scientific research but, I would bring up a point, that, you know scientific research in some areas


for example okay like I would like to bring up the example of the north korean leader Kim-Jong-Un that, actually started researching on, having a hydrogen bomb on, six january twenty sixteen so this was met with strong condemnation but he refused all allegations of wrongdoing and state stated that this country that his country had the legitimate right to actually carry this out and carry this technological advancements out


this scientific research, and I would say that, in this case, countries like this should not have the power to actually conduct, unlimited scientific research because


these can cause unnecessary harm we do not know what, mister kim jong moon might have done, or will do in the future with this with this scientific research scientific breakthrough, so


I think that we have to be very cautious in terms of who or what which country we let carry out unlimited scientific research or have a sort of restriction for every single country, yeah


, understand ya understand where you're coming from, and, in terms of when it comes down to ethics I think that yeah I agree that, you know it should be limited, in terms of scientific research for each country because not every country has


very ethical uh, ethical reasons to proceed with their scientific research however, don't you think that , when the country is given this is not given a limit they can explore there limits they can explore above their limits and


actually make scientific breakthroughs in certain things for example countries can use scientific research to actually improve their economy and their standard of living for its people , so this application of science will create technology that will better the scientific technology sorry scientific knowledge that people will have so


as a countries, knowledge of science growth they can also make products of it which will create industries that can improve the economy of the whole country so as this economy


evolves and improves the country's standard of living will actually become better will become a lot better but we can also argue that you know this will also have a backlash but I I won't get into that first but my point is that


won't you agree that when we have unlimited scientific research we can actually make more breakthroughs, and, even if that backfires like let's say uh another country actually uh besides to I mean I'm reverting back to the point where I'm I mention about mister kim jong un actually proceeding with a hydrogen bomb so if another country actually


increases his defensive is it's it's defense measures against, north korea, wouldn't that mean , that, the country is improving and that the economy is actually would actually grow and provide more jobs for more people


and in overall we we all the the the whole world will become stronger, and, every country will become stronger but ya, but in this case I will be the devil's advocate lah


okay , , I would say that without an ethical barrier


like without the ethical barrier that we both actually have mentioned unlimited scientific research would actually bring possibility and pave the path for, new findings and substantial advancements in let's say medical science and but when I do mention this this potential it also might bridge the gap between you know the rich and poor


and it will it will extend the bridge further, but wouldn't we all say that limitless limitless, scientific research will bring about, more benefits for that country


, I guess when it's limited it's more control and , , more ethical in the sense if we have the right people, , leading this leading let's say the united nations that you mentioned so he has to go through them first right


before anything is decided but, yeah but, at the same time when, this scientific research is limited, we wouldn't be able to make


, maybe, we would have made more breakthroughs in the past ten years if we didn't have this limit set, and every country actually had their , had, no limit in terms of


, making their scientific advancements, but, I think all in all actually , every country should actually be given the rights given given sort of


, there should be an overall like, I guess organization that keeps every single country in check in terms of what right their, given and


what rights they are given to conduct these unlimited scientific research , so, when we judge based on that we can we will be able to, sort of, control these countries that are


in a way risky like, countries like north korea for example, so when we restrict countries like that, we will be able to control, , our scientific advancement you know technological advancements


but, ya but all in all I think, both both sides have its pros and cons, yeah thank you


yeah


K part one debate topic one


(hmm)


okay thank you justin so, I think that uh profit should be the main concern in terms of scientific research because currently in our situation like for example in singapore where we live in we always work hard for reward


and this form of reward is often in terms of money and profit how much profit that we can generate and how much you can bring back to our homes and also for expenditure, hence beneath more more meaningful projects uh tend to require a large amount of money to motivate us and the researchers to actually put in more hard work and also more tests more


development in terms of the research that they are doing and hence this creates a huge potential in a larger impact in terms of the area of fuel which they are studying in, however the amount of profits to be able to be justified cannot be determined by the magnitude as of the project as well


and yes and that will be my end of my argument for the point


yup yes


, okay , in my opinion uh regarding to justin's point I do agree that people often like


uh monetise and also leverage on others other's suffering to make a profit, uh that's for when there's a crisis and where this sort of products are heavily in demand but in my opinion when it comes to scientific research for advancement which I think the account where there isn't a crisis


profit should still be the main concern as when we consider like, shortages around the world and when we plan to tackle a lot of major problems in the world without profit there isn't actually enough capacity to drive researchers and also production to develop new medicine new


new solutions for our current first world problems as well as the world problems hence human need is also very subjective as uh someone could define human need as a certain set of uh qualities or a certain set of


things to fulfil while that may differ from person to person as well and clearly if, if profit being used as a main concern of scientific research this can be the main driver of either a KPI or either a


a research go and go where these profit can be distributed after the goal has been reached and this also works in the same way to prevent exploitation of the funds the research there are also utilizing, uh and utilizing the project for their own purposes and need as well


thank you


okay, okay


okay sorry the company that you are mentioning is, okay , okay for my point I agree with justin sometimes uh they take in a huge amount of uh money for the research scientific research and


and more often or not uh I guess uh most of the research often comes down to the solution not not being able to solve the and all the problems and also the solution having like several side effects that that cost the the drugs to be ineffective as well


but ultimately, that is uh the main drive or profit which is to push companies like like the one you said and to solve more challenging and causing problems ah yes there are issues that come up with it uh if you take two example if we use human need as a main concern on these research for the drug


did that won't be enough funding and enough money to motivate and to, asia the researchers to continuously develop and improve their drug after many and and master testing and more of and the drug will be in an effective essentially and I would like to quote a few examples of successful companies that have developed their medicine


uh company like pivotal and GSK they rely on huge profits to to motivate their researchers as well as invest uh, investments from outside uh companies and I have another example to cite as well as you can see in this current COVID situation there are two main main leading companies that are leading the COVID uh nineteen uh drug


the research in US they namely moderna and also other uh related pharmaceutical companies as well and, once they have uh released that their first phase of testing has been out to the market many and many huge investment firms


come into the stock market and also to invest in these companies hoping and motivating them to do well and in the end if the product or the drug comes out to be successful and effective this will in turn drive the uh drive the profits of the company and also benefit the society as well


and hence this is why I feel that profit should always be the main concern to scientific research, okay


yes uh to scientific research and that scientific motivation is yeah because of profit, yup


correct


okay for me, yes the price matters ultimately to the court and consumer point of view but in most cases the cost and profitability of the research is, is regarding to the researchers but now if you are talking about the end point consumer point of view where the cost the price of the medicine is too high


and this is where the private sector and the public sector which is the government working to the private working with a private institution institutions to develop like grants and also subsidise medicine rates for maybe the less fortunate


and as you can see from singapore we have very heavily subsidised medicine for people there on the less fortunate side with the implementation of for example Chas card and also Medisave Medishield and a lot of other government initiatives where they have worked with private sectors to come up with


this solution to also help the less fortunate so that everyone remains affordable on these solutions as well


on the surface where the government needs to portray to the general public and of course the government needs to maintain if its image on, ensuring that uh people comes first and the economic development of for example the specific country come second uh however in in another scenario between the public and private sectors certainly the economic side


uh matters more matters more because, without profits and without uh economic economic uh subsidized and, also investments research and products a research and development of drugs and products will not be effective and who knows that we might not even have a solution to this uh diabetes problem without profit as being the main concern of scientific research


okay (hmm), yes twenty minutes yup


part two debate topic two


(hmm), okay thank you justin I agree with his point where uh humans our motor skills have been deteriorated uh greatly due to the advancement in technology and


uh example is the widespread uh usage of smartphones and gaming consoles let us to be more indoor let let us to stay indoors more often and also indulging in games instead of going outdoors learning more


physical activities and like what you said farming et cetera however however I like to, point out the fact that I do not agree that uh technology had a negative impact on her skills, of the people instead technology has helped us humans created new skills and also new new ways to tackle problems so technology has a positive impact of


helping us most stimulate our minds uh given the current uh situation of our twenty first century with technological advancements we we need to have a great critical thinking skills and creativity to solve uh problems of the twenty first century


the average person that developed like motor skills in the past would not be as efficient to develop solutions that are created by our world problems that we have today and with the advancement of technology


it has empowered us to create solutions that are related to artificial intelligence automation and a lot, of uh efficiency being improve in certain processes this has helped us to


completely eliminate jobs and also eliminate skills that are essentially, almost not needed at all while also creating new jobs and new, new skillsets they are required to construct this uh technology or system that can take over these old jobs uh essentially what I'm saying is that technology has helped improve the skills people skills of people of a greater height and also


animating like hard labor and providing us humans a more efficient way to live and also to complete the scope of our work


(hmm)


K I'm I agree with the gaming parts and how are stimulation has helped which uh technology that we have today but I would like to argue on the point where


our games and stimulations as long as uh TV shows for the kids currently as technology have advanced improved our cognitive or skills significantly compared to the past so let me cite the example and which I believe that we have all watch uh sesame street before


so in a research article which said that sesame street has greatly improved the cognitive skills of children that watch the show and also improve their learning process compared to hands-on learning in the past


okay this is only or one example but games and stimulations as well also helped to improve the reaction timing and also, other skillsets that we are not will not be able to learn if we do not have technology in the past


so uh another example that I do have is the usage of computers and IT currently, so with the usage of IT and the computers that we have now a lot of things that we tend to have


use in war in the past, are, largely changed for example in the past, maybe some war tactics are used are without the usage of technology but now we have uh aircraft uh sensors where we can locate uh enemy's aircraft when is near our borders and also the usage of a lot of automated


, machinery uh artillery and also the invention of nukes as as well so in a way that you can say that uh it it does uh help us that it it does uh sorry it does have negative impact impact in terms of our motor skills and having a direct impact


uh to the person that is doing the hard label but ultimately in terms of efficiency and the greater impact overall technology has helped, on the positive side to help humans create use


a little less effort to create a greater impact for the people


yup yup yup yup


okay ,


okay, okay , K here are some of my thoughts so basically you mentioned uh speedo and like nike as your examples


so , all these sort of technological advancements are made to help uh ease people to actually help to make their lives better, so ultimately technological advancement and the impact of the skills level of people is a set of trade offs that uh one has to let uh let go off in order to acquire new set of skills and technology being our


disruption into our society today has made us increase our productivity efficiency but however traded, of these skill sets as you mentioned of like motor skills may be running while while bare feet and maybe swimming without those uh speedo trunks but with current technology and society today


the opportunity and chances for us to display this motor skills are greatly low, an example as I can as I would say is we wouldn't see people running with their bare feet nowadays and we wouldn't see people uh okay I wouldn't say swimming naked but


using like no no equipped the usage of no equipments so with the technology being disrupted in our society we are greatly adapted to the social norm of using running shoes to help us uh and do our for


longer longer routes and also for protection for our feet and all these advancements actually helped to, to make our lives better, K ya


, okay, okay coming back to my point


what do you all eat ultimately boils down to the side of trade offs and a set of things that we prioritise so with technology come and go in society today, we have to prioritize the skillsets that are more relevant and more of utmost more importance to us and hence that's why we focused on these skillsets that can help drive uh


the human population forward and also the advancement in human population, and the redundancy of the, previous uh skills as as per you mention the motor skills are, greatly limited to as compared to IT skills that are needed in a society today and that's why I feel that technology had a greater positive impact


in terms of skills level of people by extending and also increasing their levels of skills that they require in today's world


yeah, yes or I think mine cut off at sixteen minutes someone whatsapp caught me, yeah, I submit now ah I can submit first ya


ya, wait I I off


yup fifty eight yup fifty eight


okay, part three debate topic three, , ,


okay thank you justin so I think justin already brought up my point one of my point on the north korean leader and which furthers a reinstate my opposition on where countries should not have unlimited scientific research and


only have limited scientific research research according to uh ethics code of ethics , cultural and also technological advancement so justin already pointed out a lot of facts in terms of the north korean leader in terms of nuclear development


and I want to state my own point on the united nations especially uh with, the like purpose of united station near united nations being developed to help and regulate internationally the rules the code of conduct and also ethical issues regarding to human rights and also technological advancement


so in two thousand and five the united nations an example adopted a declaration on human cloning prohibiting, all forms of human cloning and also, state that no country should be allowed


like at all to engage freely in scientific research that could violate the human life, so even though this , united uh declaration was formed in two thousand and fifteen a chinese technology company still formed an alliance with a south korean based research forming to build up uh animal cloning factory in china where they're cloning uh cows annually at


uh our current year twenty twenty, and this is why uh which further represents my point on every country should not have unlimited science research research and must have proper and enough regulation regulatory rights from the united nations because these can severely harm the progress of our human advancement and also disrupt


the natural natural life of us human beings and certain, uh issues in terms of cloning animals that can put up certain uh, uh ethical issues regarding to a lot of countries in the world and this ethical issues that are being affected can have a adverse effect


on these countries at may result in uh public riots tensions disputes between certain countries and ultimately results in war, and hence being controlled and having limited scientific research research in each field of or research for it if your research is important to maintain the


societies peacefulness and also the disruption of having one single country having the entire world dominance and holding the other countries at following its footstep okay that that's my point


okay I agree with joshton where technological advancement in terms of each country is very important without boundaries as they can make scientific breakthroughs K that's true and the reason why


uh these breakthroughs are deem as dangerous or in a world where there are no restrictions of scientific research we do not know how


how much these certain research have been breakthroughs and by a certain country and this can cause uh irreversible damage to earth and also human mankind and probably to the non-existent, and when a country develops uh certain for example uh biochemical


of for biochemical warfare uh developed a certain biochemical that can essentially destroy a single country with a with a release of the gas and this could uh essentially


swipe out the entire population and also deemed that country that uh develop this uh technological advancement as like the crown the the champion of all countries and also, everyone will have to bow down and also lay respect and also follow this country uh with its footsteps which is what uh US and the US and the north korean is actually


uh debating about having, uh nuclear developments and also restricting each other's development in terms of this uh biochemical warfare now and this further enhanced my point on having uh limited scientific research is because


ever since the human evolution we have seen countless of scientific breakthrough and these scientific breakthrough has gone us to where we are here today, and at this stage and point of life we have no idea how much it can essentially dominate or disrupt the entire world's economy and the entire world a state of living


and that's why as humans grown to become better smarter we tend to uh ask humans tend to put in restrictions uh not just in our country for example, think of restrictions in terms of having policing and also having a government


a government is a form of decision to prevent and also to regulate the country's economy the country's bishop with scientific scientific research and also the country's development in a regulated and safe way, and which ends my point on the each country should have linked scientific research that starts from being regulated by the united nations than further down regulated by each individual country in terms of their cultural and ethnicity


uh ethics


okay uh in terms of possibilities yes uh certainly the possibilities are limitless if there are no boundaries which is why it's uh which brings me to my point again in today's society it's uh very dangerous to be


uh has nothing that is holding you back, imagine if you have unlimited resources like you have grown an empire of of creating a a medicine, that is used to for example prevent uh coronavirus


if this medicine is developed by a single company that is not regulated they can push up and hiked up the price in the ways that is the way that's not ethical for the current consumers to pay at the certain level of price point, and this is where the governments and the united nations comes comes in to regulate the economy and to regulate the pricing of the certain drug


and this can be seen evidently in singapore where prices of mask hikes up as soon as there was a virus outbreak in singapore and the government stepped in and also have a regulation in where any, uh mask that are purposely that has a intend of purposely


uh making money off the poor using are outrageous are pricing on a mask is also unlawful in our state, and hence going back to my point that it is that the potential are limitless and that's why there are a lot of restrictions being


uh place in to ensure fair play to ensure uh peace and to ensure everyone is equal and everyone have equal rights and, it called opportunity to explore like scientific breakthroughs


yes in terms of world human rights yeah


okay, okay thank you justin ultimately I feel that having a, every country having limited scientific research or having the benefits will definitely outweigh the cons of not having them because uh certainly every country would have uh unlimited scientific breakthrough but


okay I think I must stop it okay yup


part one debate topic one


hi good afternoon I'm oriana doing the first debate topic, which is is humility still desirable today, I think it's uh, having humility in one's character, it's good because it specify


certain set it is actually specify several dozen characters and strength that we have, in human that consequence in that consequence it consequences of each strengths that we have, let it be from happiness


to health, health any resilience to recovery, or any leadership to longevity, humility sometimes also known as modesty it defies not only as, uh, no not only thinking more highly of oneself than it is warranted humble people are not self deprecating brother they're accurate in how they regard themselves and how they present themselves


from young we are being taught from home by our parents uh how to be a humble person because uh I think it goes a long way, from going to school, to work, to how you grow up well within your peers uh and also now being married and having a spouse relationship in a family


humility also is a good quality for us uh as an individual humble people normally handle stress uh better, more effectively and reports also shows that higher level of physical and mental health of where of well being are being controlled if


being uh being able to be humble, right from the beginning we know being humble is just like taming your own self ego, uh with this I would like to pass to my, , good friend Faizal to elaborate more on his side before continuing more about uh whether humility is something that we still do desired now


so, continue with my stand that being humble is good it's because , from what we personally see if we have that humbleness in ourself, we can really radiates like ourselves I mean projects ourselves with full confidence uh we are more relax in fact uh researchers find that our heartbeat goes a little bit little bit more quietly because something inside us are being let go


you are not being squeezed because being having high higher ego you seriously have to squeeze yourself to make sure that you maintain you know that that, what kind of person that you want to be, it's actually also uh easier to be to be to have that kind of harmonious because it can be easily seen by another individual uh can be easily hurt and accepted by just what a person you are you don't have to pretend or you didn't have to


act, to just because to be someone that you are not, being humble readily projects yourself, example, like, uh as I mentioned that I have children, three boys


they're all being taught this humbleness since start because to me it's very important as there are men they're going to be our future leaders, who have to take responsibility and of course from there you have to learn from their mistakes listen to their spouse or their bosses uh and to keep this ability one would must or should have this humble kind of character


this good quality is is very important as an individual, later in in maybe in the army or in in future workforce, uh and also in their relationship with their spouse with having this humble character, they have more greater generosity in helpful being helpful and also gratitude towards their spouse


ya, can you continue from that, mister Faizal


humble, harmonious is in is is in your, character


okay, I can understand totally understand what you you mention but in a marriage sometimes when two people withstand are being stubborn or too egoistic on who to give in when it comes to


something that we can't avoid argument in marriage one of them has to have that humble characteristic in order to give in but that doesn't mean they're wrong uh just to maintain or to, hold the marriage longer


and in workplace when you're being humble that doesn't mean you are trying to show that you are timid or shy in what I've been mentioned by yourself being humble come as I mentioned within it's within oneself one can be so overconfident


but humble, at the same time with that you can really show you can really show a person that arrogance in a matter of like competing with your your, your opponent in in a certain game or what but with that humbleness right having that humbleness you can actually show your honesty that you have already input in yourself uh like you know some great peacemaker


even though they compete in certain certain, uh like competition, even though they have full confidence but with being humbleness, you show your professionalism, that that is how I feel uh on my side, and uh okay ya Faizal


showing confidence in whatever you do being it projects or any presentation that you've done in office right ah, like, to me I feel that, it's is like, it's okay to be overconfident of course we always want our children to be very confident to present themselves in stage or in in whatever kind of presentation lah they have to make but


but as I said nowadays more kids are they're lack with this humbleness they couldn't take it with all the uh failures that they face, uh because we did not , uh how to say cultivate this kind of covenant car immorality since young


they need to have these humbleness in them knowing that it's okay to to fail it's it's okay not to actually uh win that certain or get a place in certain placing of course we always have high hopes for our children yes I agree with that, but if


uh we have to tame them or teach them that if we couldn't get that placing or something that you want uh for example if you want to be a a student counsellor but you can't be one we can always project them I mean or focus refocus them to other things,


to to tap on their their height right to say that oh it's okay not to to get this position you might get something else better you see but if you don't have this kind of humility characteristic you might feel that yourself a failure that child might think like oh


I just couldn't do it uh you you start to become aggressive or you express uh you know uh depression or or anything so to me by having that simple character of humility it helps


it helps that's what I I feel lah


uh I don't know whether you have mix around with a lot of parents who has children which is so competitive in their okay for example math tests they are so competitive in a sense that if they didn't get tops in class they will be be you know be really down they will be so so disappointed with themselves


I know that humility doesn't completely hundred percent uh uh will radiates that uh oh he got nothing to do with having high confidence but I feel that, it, teaches you to like relax not to be defensive just to tell yourself that no it's okay we we know that we have tried very hard we know like both of us like the mum and the the son have tried our best that we we do revision we covered everything so it's okay move on


some people with no humility knocked down to earth they can't move on with that they keep on saying that oh I'm such a failure I I couldn't do well and that's where we realised that nowadays kids they tend to lead to this kind of depression because they couldn't accept


debate topic two


okay we shall continue with debate topic two with the title my life my choice how far can people expect to live life this way, having the sentence my life my choice


it already shows that how these individual uh would choose to lead their life by uh refusing to, to add like you know like having their own lessons or mistakes, to be learned by themselves


and to have that mind your own business kind of, ah character, they don't like to be disturbed, or to be people to be involved in their things for and wherever they do, beat work or how they manage their household, or schools


with without their partners in in in work or, in any any other aspect, uh normally this kind of uh, uh choices they made uh, uh beat in their kind of how they make choices how they lead in their


religion and also how they brought up their children, their mistakes, uh are normally being learned by hard way and they would uh, you know just swallow their own and would not need any help from even, their nearest kin like parents


lessons are normally being embraced backed by themselves they will pick up themselves back together again quickly, uh just because they have this kind of uh character of my life my choices, uh, this kind of uh character I feel


some, some people would uh, sorry will go far, because they expect their life to be in that way, they can change their own life to be on life for the good if he taken to the right kind of sense


it can be it can be quite liberating in many ways as it sets a person uh, to path uh, to their own dreams they want to achieve their own dreams, uh for example some, uh


you know couple they would prefer to, , get married and buy a house and lead them their life uh without having their parents to to plan uh like whether to why not you just stay with us first and and learn experience


any you know any hiccups in between your marriage or looking after the children then be independent but they chose actually to live their own right from the start after their marriage just to to to you know to know how is it life, having their choice free themselves from their parents lah they would prefer to to plan themselves


, I will elaborate more on that, and for now I'll pass to, Faizal to continue


isn't isn't your last statement you have agreed with me, that actually we can live far, we have to move out yeah, no not necessarily because I think some some couples


some couples actually would prefer to stay with their parents hello you no need to pay phone bill I mean power supply bills we no need to have extra babysitter money because parents will look after our children isn't that a good thing


okay from my my uh kids since we are talking about this marriage thing right from my my point of view I mean I started off very very early our father I mean our birth, fathers actually inverted commas chased us away right after we get married meaning that uh especially uh my husband the father had knows that he has been uh the pampered one


so right after we got engaged he actually ask us to apply for flat, you know and using our fight what will you call it fiance scheme that time during our time we we apply house I mean a house not having lots of of savings with us


and we proceed and after right after we got married, we got pregnant, and we got a house, yeah we we got pregnant, we got we both of us got a baby okay then we we got a house at the same time all come at a same time we couldn't managed but


we we gone like like as as mentioned it's our life our choice whether be it having three times a meal on top of table or not it's it's how we manage how we manage through and uh now twenty years has passed uh we have been through all that


there are some things that we wouldn't want our parents to to chip in, like for example they wanted to look after our children but we thought that oh no we wanted to look after them ourselves because we want to educate uh our way and maybe they they wouldn't understand why we sent our two year old to a an extra class because they thought they are still young where they should be playing but we thought oh no that's for


uh for them to be more uh sociable so that their moral skills will be better social skills will be better uh we survived that, and and so far so good okay and being having like you were saying teenagers yeah I'm having one eighty year old who has that character of my life my choice even though at first as a mother I'm quite unagreeable to that


but looking at him now I'm such a proud mother because he's such an independent guy because he would want to work to pay for his own expenses and you know how a polytechnic guy would want to dress out he would work for his branded t-shirts or branded shoes so I think that having that kind of my life my


choice does helped once in a while yes can please proceed mister Faizal


yeah, I have to agree that sometimes yeah we just need yeah, , people around us to to just to stay sane especially during the the circuit breaker right I need to see you and your family so much you know mister Faizal but then I realised that uh don't you think during the circuit breaker also if you happen to be uh you know


uh hanging like a leech at the social media, you can see that !wow! it has been too much too much of people commenting, , giving unnecessary negative comments to a certain certain just because okay example you were talking about that sovereign thing right I I will be talking about an uncle who actually uh has suffer from uh he actually had an asthmatic you know he has been having he's he's an asthmatic so


he couldn't wear his mask properly and and you know you put it right below a bit because sometimes he can't breathe properly you know, but he was somebody took stomp because they can get fifty dollars out of it actually so somebody stomped him and then they took photo so these kind of people are being bombard he's an old uncle he's a seventy year old uncle who can't breathe and he was just putting his mask for a while putting down his mask for a while


but no a lot of people is bombarding him uh not knowing what's the reason for just being negative, uh so sometimes , if if the uncle happened to have a social media I guess he will be more uh having more depression I think the depression will take more effect than his asthma by reading all these negative comments from uh netizens


these netizens' comments are killing people in fact I just heard from a friend a teacher who is also a school counsellor uh recently or even if you you you listen or I mean uh watch say uh from CNN CNA last two days the the


suicide number is getting higher which is four hundred among the twenties no the the, uh people aged twenties they couldn't accept the fact that, being negativity from people around too much too much negativity around us we don't need that


sometimes we just have to shut close the door my life my choice I do what I want you know like I feel that, it is getting on it's getting more and more during the CB period where we we are more enclose we are at home looking at the social media reading at people


I I'm sure you boys have to agree with me the the the comments from netizens are getting way out of hand just what a simple thing like you know I suddenly feel there's there's no more empathy at all zero, and uh besides humility we were saying just now now zero empathy they can't even be you know can't even have a little bit of


empathy towards an old man, or even to uh uh uh kids who are now doing having all these cyber-bullying they they don't they didn't have this kind of social uh empathy anymore, so sometimes once I mean most of the time I guess in this period we just need to have that tag line my life my choice I do what I think I I want but of course we can't you know go against uh government rules and regulations


but but that doesn't that doesn't allows you allows you to to you know bombard people that way


debate topic three


hi for the last topic which is topic tree for today it would be the world, the topic will be the world would be a better place if more political leaders were women, what's your views !wow! this is a, very uh strong topic which I think


mister Faizal has prepared to yeah I can see that two piece of foolscap paper ready for him to bombard me, three oh good okay fine , as you know as both of us all of us know that women are actually more nurturing


right, and peace loving than men so sorry that one something that you have to accept the world will be more peaceful place if, you if it's being nurtured or or being a control or being a woman having it having as yes their leaders


uh but that doesn't even that doesn't mean when they are too soft too well nurtured, they can't be aggressive, you know in in giving a command or set an instruction, to build up that certain uh country


for example if you can see that , uh like, hillary clinton he's much more aggressive than obama for instance that what most of their their people said, but that doesn't mean that, mister obama is not doing good as a leader


but, I'm trying to say that even women also can actually lead, the the country, women are more perceived to have more certain qualities like, uh which is lacking in men that make them a a better political uh leaders like for example uh


they have we we have actually more uh listening skills than men, because uh men intend to take only the important ones whenever a certain statement was being given they only pick up the important ones whereas uh women are much more detailed we are detailed to a certain extend that every word can being can be used to bombard in a certain argument


uh we also being able to negotiate uh properly, uh because of our detailed nature as I mentioned uh we're able to uh we are softer or even much more pleasant to negotiate things with with certain uh political other political leaders we are uh more motivated


uh when we are given a certain task, I guess we are very resilient that's why we are motivated in doing our work, more properly more more uh careful, and we are also, , more receptive on giving feedbacks uh


I mean, more receptive to feedbacks from from, the the people the people themselves, uh woman leaders are like for example uh our former prime , minister in UK like margaret thatcher like teresa may these people are the one who you can see actually they've they've proved themselves to be one of the most outstanding uh leaders who are women actually they represent most of the women in the country


and , these women also if you realize even even how well a certain leaders who are man they they would have be a personal assistant who is a woman to back them up, with that I'll I'll pass to


uh Faizal to continue


(hmm)


really


I thought you got so much to talk suddenly you finish already okay, okay now uh living sitting in your let me see your living room do you realize that one of the world leaders, and in fact your world leader is a woman


I see but that fact, fact is still a fact that our puan uh our first our lady puan #halimah yacob# is uh a woman leader and


did you see any riots any war any err something that we aren't we have don't feel safe you know, country we are feeling so safe you can just not lock your door later you don't need even a security guard okay


but you were saying that no some some of their people in in fact the woman themselves doesn't feel safe it's if the woman to be uh if if the president would to be a woman some woman in fact you don't feel safe at all we we were saying that even is a man we feel safe but now is a woman we still do feel safe


do you do you mean last time when it were to be a president Ong-Teng-Cheong you feel safe then now puan halimah you're not safe, you are thinking, uh yeah so, somehow or rather she actually did uh a good job in also maintaining her her you know leadership quality in singapore if if she were to make certain uh like decision which is not good for us


something might be happening in singapore right so when when the nearest nearest you can just, that, that is our country okay let me continue, uh as uh this is a a something I research also I google like you alright uh, , I they they were saying that uh woman actually when they they


get a certain seat in in in the legislative right as they, grow older they become much more confident researchers found that uh confident generally increases as women age whereas male confidence declined while female confidence increases that's what researchers says so I bet


like uh those presidents like uh hillary herself don't you think that she is like become more powerful not as she grow older because she from experience and from you know like women they they would concentrate on whatever they are doing uh they women delivers more government like they


sorry they would like concentrate or whatever they doing and input whatever they have throughout the world years of experience and with that you can see them actually bloomed better as they grow older, so I feel that normally when they say woman doesn't make uh uh better leader that's just a gender discrimination mister Faizal


surprisingly right , women uh spends more time and effort in community service than men, uh woman also delivers more government spending to their uh distinct uh district than than man


and they also relate more education on uh uh like because as a having this mother mother instinct right they would actually emphasis more on children education on sexual harassment and more on family care so I feel that women leaders


have, have uh better uh uh like towards their their people the the instinct uh having more motherly instinct towards their people so if with man they are much more uh,


selfish in a sense you see, that's the difference lah I I I think, uh you can continue mister Faizal


, how about your wife , okay I I just heard the what you mentioned vengeance so you better be careful with that word vengeance yeah because yeah I I agree that women are much


more emotional in in uh like settling situation but you must agree that in any like for example uh, like, how to say uh if we were to happen, to have disagreement with with other country political ways women intend to be much more detail and pause and they would


you know think and react, I know you you did mention many many times that uh the vengeance things where you asked to shoot one time but we shoot ten five times, right but, on another hand some group of women actually the other kind who would


relax pause and then react whereas men they don't actually have that that abilities to do so they they follow their actions their emotional are ten times much more greater than women and in a sense that they would like when they're angry they will just uh react without thinking


that that's one possession possession that woman has, we will only think before we react, in many ways not only in in political ways in in every aspects of woman life we are much, more compose when it comes to settling things uh the or or some certain discussions


okay we shall end here


part one debate topic one


okay hi good afternoon uh to the moderator my childhood friend ariana from the uh opposition uh my stand is humility is, not uh desirable today


straightforwardly by the end of the twenty minutes I hope that I will confidently say that all of you agree that uh it is so because it's a saying that uh I read up and found that the humility or to be humble is a strange quality


uh because the moment that we think we, are humble or or or, we have a sense of humility uh and we have it then we would have lost it because you know you have that that eagerness inside of you, uh as mentioned by ariana, we were brought up and we we are still being brought up to believe humility uh


confidence and hard work make a winning recipe for personal achievement uh yet I'm sure myself yours your good self know many confident humble hardworking uh people who are still out there working hard trying to achieve their goals and dreams that they have set out to accomplish


I hope to present all of you with examples of how humility is uh no longer desirable today in in such a modern world contexts and hopefully to convince all of you that humility won't help you at work


uh nowadays it or even make you popular in fact uh being humble or humility will slow you down in uh achieving whatever you want to achieve in your career ladder


with that I hand over to ariana uh to move to the second statement thank you


!hey! thra just if if I'm not the if I did not hear correctly uh you said earlier that humbleness uh radiates uh some sort of full confidence I I I feel that confidence doesn't come from being humble confidence uh comes from within


when when you are good at something, you are confident like it you are good at at that english or literature you're you're good at uh being an architecture or an engineer that, the confidence will come because you know what you're doing so I I don't see how humbleness comes uh in bringing out the


confidence in you , and having humility meaning listening to your spouse and bosses I I don't think that's a humble or humility character because listening to your bosses uh that's part and parcel of work if you more or less have to listen to your bosses because


that's how the world is listening to spouse is not humility of being humble it's it's uh, it's a two way street it's a given situation you give in I give in I listen to you you listen to me it's a it's a two way street it's a it's a it's a


let's meet in the middle kind of thing and of course listening to bosses and etcetera it will help you later when you in the army and all that but but, it is a different trait when you listening to your your superior in the army that that that comes it doesn't have any inclination to uh having being humble or humility if if I may say so


uh, so just to check on that but having humility has a different meanings and perceptions having humility is a good trait to have however into this uh as I said aggressive work and business market it will just leave people to think that you are timid shy or or just being a pushover


uh often times in our in our humility we simply expect our actions to speak for us we assume that if we just stay focused, and work hard we we don't have to fuss about how good we really are so everything will take care of it by themselves but this is the old way of thinking simply leaves your chances of success up to luck for people to take note of that


, if you are too humble people may not know what your real value you bring to the organisation or your company so if I asked what is how what is your arrogance what would you say would it would it be thinking uh what makes you do your work so well that makes you irreplaceable at work it doesn't mean that you state down your job description


humility can sometimes leave you passing through life in contentment letting it go just uh just uh let let let everything flow never truly expressing the skills qualities that might make you unique I mean and overall to summarise uh


uh, no one is born with humility as as you mention it is a trait that is taught to us from young it is how you're supposed to fit in and be normal so if you want to succeed in life you you you cannot be normal, I mean you work as I said the I think yesterday hit you work ten to twelve hours a day you need to have arrogant in your work you need to have pride in your work because when you work that long


of a period of time during a day it takes up half your time so you have to do justice for it uh so I, and it there and for ariana to to uh come up with another statement perhaps


okay err, okay so but, I I still uh unable to understand, the the uh the way, uh, err as you said humble or humility uh brings out the confidence in you uh in life or or in a workplace as I as I said earlier err you can be humble uh in work and all that uh and and and


go through your life uh being uh accepting to be humble and and hoping for people to notice what you can do or what you can't do however how does that get you ahead in life, , seen busying for one of the uh examples in life uh let's say a school project is been done by you and your kids uh by your kids uh in the school project in a group so let's say everybody chips in


err, uh and and does their part you see uh but when it comes to certain, aspects of the project where you need to be you need to present, uh the project for example uh would for to get extra marks would you not want your child to project himself even more or to just uh to be humble and just say that oh I did my part it is good enough for me to get so and so marks I will let others to


err, err talk more about the project elaborate more on the project put themselves up on stage or under the limelight uh I'm I'm completely satisfied with how it is which which is not wrong you are, are you might have done a good job, but, being letting it go and and and just taking it as how it is might not get you that far ahead in life or give you that extra push uh


in in in school or might well might as well in work you see because at the end of the day the bosses or the teachers uh whatever work you've done behind the doors behind uh after school uh if you don't project if you if it's feels that you have done your part


and and you know you accept it as status quo people who are not say arrogance but uh you know uh are willing to plunge take the jump and project themselves even more uh would get the extra mark or would get the extra promotion when it comes around


okay uh just just two question how does humility or being humble uh sets you up not being a failure


, because if you fail on a certain subject or a project it did more or less defined on the work that you gave weather, uh you you did a good job uh you you you, studied for your exam so how does having being humble or being uh having the humility uh


ah, helps in in the person to to you know to accept the he's or you're being a failure because I I don't see how humble nestle humility, uh except for mix it mix it up for being affiliate though


okay if if you don't do well in in in in an exam for example they they're very confident on getting a hundred and perhaps they get ninety five so you know they they they start being uh aggressive or as you mentioned, but that would be that would not be uh humility that would be uh


maybe overconfidence, one uh that would be uh, how how should I say it that would be overstating the fact that they they have high expectations, uh of of themselves uh for the parents and even for the child so, even if they feel uh it is not about you being humble so that they can take it being a failure or not doing well doesn't doesn't mean that you did have humility or you were not humble


debate topic two


okay hi afternoon again okay , just just to patron first uh when I heard my life my choice how far can people, expect to live life this way uh the tagline was my life my choice and and and I said that's that's that sounds like a very cool tagline for the young for for for a telco company to entice people to buy their sim card etcetera uh


for me I I feel my stand is you can't go very far with that kind of uh war cry uh my life my choice only uh, uh, one one good example I I'll show that later but to quote john donne no man is an island and that simply state that humans cannot survive on their own they need uh others to thrive and and they need to be in a community


uh you know with the world becoming smaller we are no longer living in the era thinking that if we sail across the sea we'll reach the age and and the fall off it the world is now, uh a globe, so let me show all of you that by by using the mantra my life my choice it will not make you have a lot of friends you will not even be the the favorite one the family or you won't even be loved by your neighbors uh by following this you are alienating yourself from the world


it can only push you into a state of thinking that it is you against the world it's me against the world every decision is against you every option is not to your liking and and and this will breed an animosity in you


and I'll I'll share some examples on how negative you will get if you follow this mantra, uh, parents I think would would have would would would oh my life my choice is probably a war cry of their teenagers uh sons daughters going up you know don't disturb slam the door get all angsty I'm I'm going through that one right now it's it's definitely he feel that his life is choice but you know


it is not and and and we have gone through that, err our own our own our own uh our own face of life and and definitely if it cannot be my life my choice uh, through through to cut into even us uh uh example of couples getting married and then being independent and moving out I I feel


all couples want to get married, nobody wants to stay with their in-laws ya nobody wouldn't want to stay with the wife's parents and the wife wouldn't want to stay in the parents everybody want to live out, so that that was across the board nobody wants to live with their in-laws so uh it's our life and our choices I feel


so thank you I I'll I'll pass you back to you uh to say your second statement, no yes they can it's it's it's not because everybody wants to do it


it is not like it's because they want to my life my choice they they they want to be independent, everybody just everybody just does doesn't like don't like to stay with their in-laws, uh


uh to a certain extent maybe but there's always two sides of the coin uh, please please continue with your uh second statement, yup


you you you got you got pregnant he didn't


we need


okay so okay let me uh extend again you know with the the as I mentioned with the war cry of uh my life my choice uh you are pushing others away so you know for example


uh we've seen on television shows uh suria vasantham or or the chinese uh drama series where where maybe the daughter or the son uh advises the the mum who is abused by the the the husband the spouse you know to


report him to the police uh do something about it why are you in this situation, !wah! why do you let him do this to you et cetera et cetera you know and you know the mother or or okay in some places there were that were one suria that was the father was, being abused uh was defiant you know uh don't don't mess with my life I know what I'm doing


uh you know you you don't come and disturb me uh this is my life, you know you're too young to know uh what is happening et cetera and so on and so forth so but how long can the person who was abused to suffer in silence following those words being stubborn and uh keep having having to keep mum uh about what they're going through


and enduring as I said during the circuit breaker uh you know we we saw videos of people uh who are in defiance of not wearing the mask err there there was once a lady was who mentioned that you know you can't touch me, uh you know I'm I'm foreign you can go and apprehend anybody else you want you know but you can't touch me I'm special I'm the special one uh


and then comes the deluge of of of emails of comments of of of uh uh animosity and everything that was thrown back to her because of of that one thing that he or she was special, you you can't touch me I this is what I want because during such cases like what is happening unfortunate the pandemic uh being you don't care about others you you just


thinking about yourself, uh you you can, put others in danger you can put yourself in danger and at at the end of the day uh you know it it didn't come out too well for her uh I think there was a case etcetera to thrown uh with her, and I realize that when I was in this uh during the circuit breaker I was doing alternate work from home uh and


and and the office uh but uh at the end of the day I I I was happy to you were given a choice you want to come back to work or you want to stay at home initially you are pretty happy to stay home watching netflix and all that uh you know all the TV shows I I can I can watch it a day don't don't tell that to my bosses uh however


at the end of the day you you get you you you get out of touch you know uh you you want to engage with people, uh you want to get out you you want to see how the outside world is living, you know so from the the tagline of of our our my life my choice uh you know from a telco tagline I can actually switch it over becomes a political party tagline to become it has to be our lives and our choices


it has we want to thrive in a community we can't survive for long on being alone in this world uh, uh, uh with all of the craziness that's happening right now all all the uh uh animosity all the dangers that live outside so we need we need uh


to work together we need to share we need to to communicate uh in order to survive, miss adriana thank you


uh


breathe


built to do to to pack in sorry my life my choice correct but let's say for example I'm sorry to bring up the old uncle again uh, uh, if she if he had followed the the pathway of my life my choice I want to wear the mask like this it's up to me but I'm sure we've all


the negative comments all the angst uh and all the bombardment he got there were one or two or maybe less than ten who actually knew the old man will actually stood up for him and say !hey!, you know what he has asthma he he you know that he can't breath


properly with the mask if he had chosen to be go through my life my choice I don't care uh and he doesn't want to share he doesn't want to explain he has the right to to explain he has every right to explain why he's wearing that mask or you know that that from wearing it properly


uh if he has chosen that way but but he we are I'm I'm advocating that, you can't go uh far by being alone so he would have got people who have been stood up stood, with him for the right reasons of why he wasn't wearing the mask properly why there is a a huge delight of of of uh bombardment on him is because everybody was stuck at home there was either netflix or facebook or or or my singapore staff on on facebook for us to watch


ya true true true true but it's because of the, time that we have uh uh on hand that that they just use it up this is not a a matter of uh my life my choice it's just what they can do with their free time


debate topic three


actually it's three ya thank you hold on yeah


okay thank you uh ariana so the statement was the world would be a better place uh if more political leaders were woman so uh, as the opposition my stand would be the world, would not be a better place if uh


more political leaders were women you you mentioned that uh, with women leaders it would be a more peaceful place on earth, because they're more nurturing, err, they have that more nurturing uh gene in them I might say so uh


uh, I will I will I will , actually have prove on how how that nurturing gene might actually uh backfire, in if they were to hold a political leaders position uh, uh, as you mentioned about barack obama he actually once said that


if if women ran the world there would be less wars, and I will point out that that that statement is actually the opposite, uh, I actually google up uh certain service that was done I will share with you even though, we live in a modern modern times the rule of a women woman in the political office should not be taken seriously uh


uh, !whoa! come (ppc) sorry, you laughing is it now countries uh with women as leaders, uh or prime ministers or even presidents, uh, uh participate in more violent disputes


I repeat uh, uh countries with women as leaders prime ministers or even president's participate in more violent dispute why why do I say that okay due to the fact that more more more societies often stereotype stereotype female leaders as weak


the same female leaders often compensate for this perceived weakness, by acting more aggressively a sense of I'll I am a woman yes but I want to prove myself even more, okay so, later on I I will also share another quote from unfortunately another american president in a in a another statement uh


uh, uh uh to prove my stand, err, I hand it back over to you so that you can continue laughing at me thank you, ya lah uh okay lah, must skip emo


!woohoo!, uh I didn't get to vote sorry, uh not sure you voted for her also lah but okay


yes yes of course, true


singapore has always been saved it regardless of who the president was female or male


is singapore a safe country irregardless of the president


okay sorry thank you uh, uh, uh I didn't really state that there's not been any riots uh before Halimah I mean there was some few he has there and and demonstrations and et cetera but, uh generally singapore uh rarely rarely has riots or or demonstration


uh and and and in such even more serious matters than a than a female president okay but we're moving on uh, uh, thank you uh a woman a woman knows that her, her leadership role demands demands uh strength if you are in a in a political leadership role but her gender demands a gentler tactic that's the face a double bind yeah in the in a double it short


if they use a gentle approach let's say a compromise you know people would condemn it as weak, if they go for a stronger approach uh let's say you know we have a teeth with malaysia we go for military force for example people would then say they're too aggressive that that's the lemah that they have as a as a woman so people see women on the whole as more communal warm gentle nurturing as you said


uh motherly so to speak but leadership roles demands aggressive, ambitious uh dominant traits, associated with men then there's like there lies the dilemma of a woman in a in a political political office so the the other statement from uh


another old uh american president of richard nixon actually it's a very very long statement but I I just snip and and and cut a few words make it shorter, uh he once said, I I don't think a woman I you know he might be sexist but he says I don't think a woman should be in any government job whatever because erratic they are erratic and emotional


men are also erratic and emotional but a woman is more likely to be so now because of the stereotypes people view women as ill suited, who handle situations related to a country security so in a study done in the US in uh two thousand two sixty one percent voted or you know said that


err, men were were better prepared to respond, to a military crisis than women, and only three percent only said women were better so that that that the statistics that came with that survey and in another study in recently lah okay maybe ten years ago not recently in twenty ten seventy percent believe that women leaders would face more resistance to threats


from other countries and and and to prove them wrong, the female leaders would use even, would use even more military force to overcome their opponent, uh initial resistance like for example you know uh the woman holds a gun you know the and holds up to a guy and you know the guy says you know I don't think you're going to shoot you know you're a female you don't have the guts to do it you won't do it lah blah blah blah you're female so the woman to prove him wrong will probably shoot the guy five times


so that comes the saying hell, have not fury like a woman scorn so that that saying goes into that when you don't challenge a woman and then you know and you and then they probably shoot you even worse off than often before and there's also historical evidence uh google in ninety seventy one okay in india


indira gandhi uh said the she would wage war on pakistan unless the president liberated bangladesh, so the pakistan president who was male to summarise you know his his response to indira gandhi probably went I don't believe you you want to fight I will fight you back


and thirteen days later india army defeated pakistan the female uh leader even this means that if a female, uh US president threatened russia with military action for for something or other the russian president says it's bullshit cause you know it's a bluff the US president is a female she don't she won't have the guts to do it the US president would then decide to


go to the war to prove a point and to avoid from looking weak so not only do they want to to, to impose that !hey! yes I'm female but you don't think that I can do it I'll do it and I'll double it


no it's a form of vengeance and to prove a point because as you said this has been stereotype you can't do your job, uh you are too weak uh you know you you don't you I don't think you can do a good job men are, better, so they have this this uh rage this not not in angst lah uh


err, they have this urge to prove people wrong and to go even one better so that's why you know uh, uh, in a military or a war crisis uh survey has shown that that they don't actually believe that they worry that that if you put women in a political scene


err, they would be pushed over the edge and would do even even worse, uh, uh my mom scarce myself more than my dad so that that show how much it is, that too that too so that shows how true and thank you my wife scare me more than than my mum ya


that I I agree that you would would pause and and and and to take a breather and most probably you probably think of something even worse to to get back you see that's because you okay I'm going to shoot him one time eh wait a minute wait wait wait I have ten bullets let me just shoot him nine times so yes I agree you take a breather


because you would probably think, think of a uh a better way and a more hurtful or more torturous way of of of of getting back that person


debate topic one, okay so so today our first debate topic is on to what extent does education prepare the young for a world that is constantly changing well I am well proposing that


education does actually prepares the young for the world that is constantly changing uh because education system needs to adapt to a fast changing world, uh so, education is one of the means where we can actually uh you know reach out


uh to the masses you know with regards to the fast changing world now because every country's foundation is built on education and it is through education that we help our children to reach their full potential both as productive members of the economy and as responsible


and principled citizen so how can we actually build an education system that uh best develops the adults of tomorrow, it's not very easy you know for schools to is not easy to build schools that will cater to the needs of the fast changing world of the twenty first century consider the major changes in our society over the past thirty years and how they have affected the way we teach today


the world of twenty forty four will be very different again from that of twenty fourteen, helping students to develop a framework in which they think about future challenges is critical enabling students to participate in events


will help them to develop new perspective and useful skills, now over the past thirty years there have been remarkable changes in how people work, let's take uh the current pandemic as an example you know the the the because of this pandemic now you know there is this thing that we are all working remotely from uh at the comfort of our houses uh and how is this possible this is only possible because


with the right education and with the right skills instilled in students in schools today we are able to, adapt technology and you know move forward and adapt, in the changing world


the time when people stayed for twenty five years in one job is also long gone in developed societies therefore schools now need to prepare students for a life in which they have, more than ten jobs before they turn fifty now employers now look for employees who have not only mastered core subjects but who are flexible deal with change maturely and can learn new skills quickly


now the economy itself is changing the knowledge economy and the service economy are expanding rapidly all over the world, communication collaboration and creativity are the skills that are required in knowledge-based industries of the future


globalisation also requires everyone to think differently the world is a smaller place than it was fifty years ago, therefore our children of today society need to be globally competent to understand other cultures and be comfortable with cultural complexities


the world of information has also changed dramatically the amount of information in the world is doubling every two years so the way we manage this will have to evolve, the students of the future will need to learn how to discern aggregate and synthesise information in ways we cannot yet imagine


now in the face of such tremendous change our students will need to have different skills hence education will no longer just be about knowing but will require us to focus on the development of soft skills communication creative thinking and flexibility


but education could easily get lost in its quest to train children for the jobs of tomorrow, therefore the role of educators must not just only focus on professional development but also create an environment that provide the young minds with a comprehensive and well-rounded education


covering culture language value development creating and retaining a connection, to our heritage thank you


okay I mean I do agree uh to a certain extent err on the points that you have shared but however I feel that you know if you don't have the correct education path or the system for the young then how are they going


to be ready for the ever changing world that is happening right now you see so we need to have an education a a formal a a education system put in place so that we we can prepare this young minds to know what


what are they you know having for them to look out for what is going to happen in the world so education has a very important emphasis in a person's uh development I would say because if without the education how can someone be aware of something


ya mine also stop ten minutes, we tap we tap


ya you when you said tap I tapped, tap on the white space lah tap on the white space, ya we didn't do anything


uh because you tell us to tap so we tap after we tap then I let it go then when Chana said the recorder stopped then I looked they are stopped, ten ya ten point my one is ten dot zero zero dot nineteen saga of Sada


okay submit then


ya mine is thirty four point twelve thirty four minutes, okay we lost the momentum okay never ah never mind we will just continue lah from where ever we stop


I think sorry Shada to interrupt but I think here I think the definition of education needs to be uh you know clarified here at this point in time because I think uh uh education the definition of education is on a very broad level here you know the the


education also encompasses experiences as well, and education also uh you know in in this in the context that were debating is also on the fact that we go through a formal uh a system education system where we learn the formal uh you know the required stuff of what we learned in primary level secondary level A level


and you know degree and get specialisation in our thing so, I think here the education is on a very broad, uh broad spread ya on a broad spectrum so I guess the the the the aspect that you are coming from is not on the education flow you are mainly suggesting that uh education yes we need to have but you are also saying that


they need to be uh having other like activities and you know the other aspect of anyway uh uh education but, when you do and uh but when you do these activities or when we're trying to create an awareness of something or whatever


we have to do it through an education right so I think we need to firstly need to define the scope of what education is in your in your definition what what what is education to you


ya but


so ya so this is given through an education right now if they have to improve on their skills then they they they they have to go through an education right so here we are not talking about the education system but here we are talking about education from a point


from a point where we have to go through have to go through uh uh like a training kind of a thing that means you're educating someone with this uh set of skills so that he can go out he or she can go out to work right is that what you are trying to tell me


so so isn't isn't that already an education in it in in itself already you have to educate someone right you need to let someone know right that okay you know our world is constantly changing we are we're we're moving onto a more advanced uh economy where you know technology is you know uh


taking taking over everything, uh sooner or later will start taking over everything sooner or later so are we already educating we don't aren't we already telling uh preparing our young mind, uh because you see from in the schools you know the government is already introducing uh you know coding lessons for student so they're trying to incorporate all these kind of you know extra co-curriculum activities uh which are defining the students for the better tomorrow


I mean I mean uh I mean look at it when in your time in my time we did not have uh we we had a very rigid form of education system we had this like primary one to primary six and then our secondary school and, what not so


we had this very formal but isn't the education system also evolving now because of the with the with the with the world changing


but say what again but you


I still feel that you are still uh you are still proposing about education because if they are having to upgrade and and learn everything is still a part of an education so I really quite not not quite get you to uh to I don't really quite get you when you say that uh


education is not the only thing so but training, having skills levelling up your skill has to come through an education right that's why I wanted to know what is the definition of education like I said because initially I mentioned that you know uh education can comes in all form they can also come through life experiences


you know experiences so are you suggesting that uh life experiences that we go through also better prepares us for the for the for the changing world, or what because I uh I don't quite understand your definition of education here that you are trying to suggest to me


ya so that's why I want to understand that are you basing your your your your arguments based on life experiences or education because you you did mention about saying uh you know we need to level up and scale up and you know using the skill-future but that is that is a clear


clear point of going through an educational way of being prepared for the changing world so, I wanted so the so that's where I got I I lost you in trying to understand that whether are you because then you did also mentioned something about the because I I I spoke about the pandemic and in uh you oppose of the pandemic and say that yeah uh you you mentioned something sorry you said something yes that


uh because of this pandemic now then you know we are more better prepared for the, future the future and then and then , think what we know what what how to handle and everything but don't you think so that they also that means that point they are trying to make is because of the experience that that went they went through


that's why they are better prepared or because of the fact that we learn something from that pandemic I mean from that uh pandemic and then we are


exactly but isn't this all covered in our education system in our history chapters in our history books I remember learning all this in my school


okay so this is debate topic two, okay so hi Sabna here so let's start on our debate topic two uh the topic uh for today is uh books serve little purpose in education as technological developments become more sophisticated how far do you agree


so I am proposing that books do serve little purpose in education as technological uh developments become more sophisticated, so uh in my opinion,


books have lost their relevance in education with technological developments okay now why do I say that now for example, again uh uh in my previous experience as a trainer I remember when I used to be in school okay we used to be having textbooks all the while and we were studying from our textbooks every time


but in today when I went in training for one of the school students are learning from ipads uh computers have become so important in today's learning so, having to see this change has made me realise that books actually have lost their relevance because everything is is on the internet everything is on


on the ipad at the at the tip of your finger, so you don't even need a book to be with you so let me just go in depth in points okay now using IT gadgets to teach, okay makes lessons more engaging and innovative helping to enhance students' learning considering that a large proportion of students are actually visual learners


now teachers are able to cater to their students especially those with learning disabilities such as ADHD and dyslexia, that's my first point my second point is technological developments have rendered educators a platform to provide an experiential learning for students now such experiential learning helps to introduce the context of learning to students


for instance students will be able to understand how chemical reaction occurs between two chemical when they play with their ipads and witness for themselves firsthand on how to add and subtract chemicals that they are creating


lastly sophistication of technology means that information can be easily acquired, disseminated and even updated at the speed of light which means to aid learning now this ensures that learning is always up to date and relevant in this information age


where information gets outdated as fast as it it gets out, now relevance is critical to ensure the students have the cutting edge information to compete with the rest of the world


not to to go in depth why do I feel that technological development is more prevalent today than having books is based on my first experience when I said that students are now learning everything through the ipad again they are no more textbooks


uh available anymore and you don't even need to have any uh if I want to learn for example if I want to learn stock trading investing or I want to learn how to uh, even cook up a simple meal you know for example if I want to make pasta I don't even need to buy a cookbook anymore I all I have to do is just


go onto youtube switch on the the the the I mean choose the channel uh of the cooking that I like or I follow or just randomly pick any cooking channel on youtube see that visually and just prepare the meal I don't even have to read a word from the cookbook all I have to see


and then uh you know identify the ingredients and prepare a meal so with all this technological advancement you know available for us I feel that you know the is a very little place for books uh you know for us to


to use for informational purposes, however yes there is relevance to books if we want to read the non uh you know the fiction part you know the love story and the romance and whatsoever that maybe books in that aspect uh you know like a de-stressor you need to do something as a hobby then I think it it is only prevalent only for that


you know that aspect but anything else in garnering information I don't really think that book serves a lot of purpose uh in today's uh day of information and technology


okay let me , uh , very interesting points that you have but let me just start with the first one you make you the first one that really caught my attention uh was the blind okay fine ya you mentioned that blind can't see visually but isn't there uh sound you know on


the on the youtube for them to listen to the steps to do it so I really don't see uh you know for the blind that uh having to use of I T gadget is, something different difficult uh as opposed to I mean I know you will oppose by saying oh they the books they have a brailling system they use the thing they feel it and then they read it but


don't you think so it'll be so nice for them to have it for uh the blind people to actually hear a voice for them to do something isn't it more engaging than just reading a braille a book a a braille thingy I mean don't don't you think so it's more engaging for a blind wouldn't it be exciting for the blind fellow to be able to have


the sense that he can hear and he can he can visual even though he got no eyes but because of the the fact that he has the sound that is going into his eyes is is like a he can form a visual on in in his mind imaginary, you know like how we always tell people you know if you do a meditation and we are listening to music and we are doing meditation aren't we also taught that we have a imaginary right so through a meditation so I I disagree with the point that you know you say that you know books uh thing


there was another very important thing that you mentioned about books uh you know uh being, uh what very expensive and it's a cheaper method okay true enough is the cheaper method yes books are one of the, uh I mean in comparison to the thing but for example if the books keeps getting updated if the books keeps getting updated


then is isn't it money still spent they have to keep spending money to buy the new the newer updated version of the books, I mean with the internet you I I mean the the only cost that they will have okay nowadays is so cheap to get internet the you know there's the the cost of getting an internet is slightly cheap it's it's very much cheaper


and the information is available to you twenty four seven anytime you don't have to wait for a new reprint of the book for the updated uh version of the information or whatsoever, ya the only cause that they will have to they will have incur would be a laptop but can you imagine that this laptop that they you know it's just not for or learning purposes I mean it it it's used for a wide variety of purposes for the laptop and


how expensive is laptop in the in today's world I mean ya to some is really very expensive but it is still I wouldn't still consider it being a very expensive way of of acquiring a uh knowledge or information that that's one thing


okay, okay ya but I mean, I'm not completely disagreeing with the fact that the books have, no relevance today I'm just saying I'm agreeing that is of a very little use today because whatever information that we want is so easily available on the internet so I don't have to wait for a book to be published if I need to you mentioned about the history and everything that we learned from the textbook and some of the context and we can apply


but aren't the same information also presented in the internet, uh uh on the on the google, google has every information past present future every single thing is on google so


then what makes you what makes you so sure that the guy who wrote the book has also got all information that is correct, you don't you don't you don't have you don't have you don't a guarantee right that he whatever he has put out on the on the book is is accurate


ya but still I mean if when you want to put something on the internet also and you're posting something isn't there people or if you are posting something a high profile article or anything isn't there someone editing your articles as well I mean I don't think so anybody can just anyhow publish anything right on the


internet I think they are some limitations on to what you can publish on internet right let's not talk about, the the the the the grouchy stuff and you know the the how do I say the the


the censored uh info on the internet I mean that one is definitely not we're not talking about that what I mean to say as isn't it when we want to publish something that you know you are talking about the past present or future like how the books go through an editor isn't articles also being vetted through an editor before they are being published


I mean wikipedia is a platform I I know the that the sources of information may not be as accurate but I think the platform also allows you to put up certain uh information up to of certain uh I mean there are certain procedures and criteria and uh


of level of information to put right you cannot just simply put any information right I think internet stops you from putting something that is not true right


I mean if that's the case I also my students also if if someone does really needs to see something that is uncensored he could be just putting a textbook in front of him or a book in front of him and could be


just putting another thing uh or maybe a dirty magazine or or or or some uh you know not nice uh images in front and then cover it up with a book and say that [ho] yeah I'm reading a book, you you get what I mean to say so I mean in that in that sense uh in in any case also whether the person is reading it from the internet the information or reading it from a book if it's uh if you are talking about a child then obviously


you should always have a constant uh eye on the child isn't in whether is he reading the correct thing he could I mean I know of some people that you know they're pretending to read a book but, in front of the book is uh some uh, uh FHM magazine and then their some other stuff I mean I have I have gone through this experience in school because I have boys that who did that you know they they will put you know during reading them they'll put these books in front to show the teacher that oh I'm reading a book but you know it's a comic book underneath


or it's some other kind of a book so in in any case I think that is in in terms of students yes of course parents have to be there to actually, uh monitor the student whether it's a book or or or an internet uh I mean using technological thing where the point here I'm trying to say is that I feel that the book is losing its essence already because you don't really need to have a book now now for an example lah I ask you a question now if you want to make


say uh pasta or anything do you go up and find your cookbook or do you go on youtube and search for the recipe or on on how to make a pasta or do you literally go and open up a recipe book and uh oh okay I have to do this or do you put it at the background the youtube and then make


or for example if there is something that you need to find out an information about you know maybe uh say okay basic stuff lah like uh how do I lose weight now do you really go and find the book, do you go to the library specifically to go and find a book to read how do I lose weight or do you go up to internet immediately take your phone and type the word how and type the sentence how do I lose weight on google and get the information


which one do you do, exactly


okay can


okay so ya debate topic three, okay so uh in uh today's debate topic three the uh the topic is on is education the most powerful tool we can use to make the world a better place


right so uh I still propose that yes education it is the most powerful tool that we can use to make the world a better place because is it is only through education that we can you know disseminate information create awareness uh about uh you know the ever


about the you know uh current affairs of the world and what is happening you know about the past future and the present, so uh let me just start off by saying you know nelson mandela I'm sure we all know who this guy is uh one said that education is the most powerful weapon with which you can change the world okay it is a very powerful statement okay


now why because uh it helps to create a more equitable society and pushing for a social change in both of which contribute to making the world a better place, yet education is merely an instrument that when put in the hands of those who use it for wrong purposes can stifle creativity in a generation and can even be used as a weapon against others so we have education


for good reasons people using it for the good reasons to progress or to progress a nation or to progress for themselves and we also have people using education to bring down a society to bring down, the world or to bring down humanity you know as we can see with all this you know uh bombing around the world you know with this


uh you know fighting all over the world and all of that and then you have another side where we're using education you know to help fight with the current pandemic the you know we have world, from all over the world using their expertise and you know they're educational uh you know back you know using their education to come up with the vaccine so that they can eradicate the you know uh COVID nineteen


now as such education is also one of the most powerful tools with which we can change the world by moulding one young mind at a time for the greater good or to the detriment of society as I have actually explained uh previously


now education often held as the great social leveller for those who are less privileged by birth or circumstances for example education allows those to possess the right, aptitude and attitude to achieve socially morally uh mean to achieve social mobility no matter their status at birth such a concept is summed up in the idea of meritocracy that progress in society should solely be based one's


ability and effort education does this by providing equal opportunities to all but uh equipping all students with the same cognitive skills now how can each student


use this it's dependent on how they use it so for example you know if you're given a skill now how they use them will determine their success in school or in life, for example the effect of higher education is exemplified in a recent study by the federal uh reserve bank of #san francisco# which found that children born into household


from the poorest fifth of the income distribution are six times more likely to reach the top fifth, if they are graduated from college, another example the finnish education system is often known as one of the best in the world and emphasises equality and developing every child's potential by abolishing the standardised testing and curriculum


this prevents schools from being ranked making it harder for wealthy parents to send their children to better schools, aside from promoting social equality through mobility education can also help with gender equality it achieves this by teaching girls about their rights and family planning while equipping them with skills for the workforce


the results are definitely tangible to as a united nations study found the child marriages would fall by two thirds an infant mortality reduced by half if all girls went to school, every additional year of schooling can also raise a woman's wage by twelve percent thus reducing poverty


in this way education is certainly capable of making the world a better place by lifting those disadvantaged by society to achieve greater equality for all, yet while education has the capacity in theory to promote equality in practice it may only live yaks and not all boat a host of other complex factors are critical in ensuring the education meets its goal of equality


some of these include poverty which prevents children from going to school socio political upheaval that disrupts schooling as well as under-equipped schools with underpaid teachers, thus the general potential for education to bring us closer to equality and a better world in general should be calibrated against these other factors


now education is also able to effect social change by equipping youth with the knowledge and galvanizing them into action for the good of society, education empower citizen to hold authorities accountable and demand their rights when necessary on an individual level education teaches students to analyse a problem and tap on available resources to solve it


it is for this reason that education can bring about social change one major incident of social change brought about through education is the, Tienanmen square protests of nineteen eighty nine in china with an assembly of one million students in the square