but my my lecturers are all adjunct lecturers though, like part time ah processor


ya tapi dia orang semua baik ah but


ah you mean but this one you mean last term lah


eh, no lah, I forgot I forgot that year one ah uh, uh uh


I forgot cause like for me fine art because, ya then last semester we were doing something else like we we experiment with like two D three D four D ya kau punya is kau terus masuk kau punya ya


uh, (uh huh) tapi shu dengan naj masih sama class ah


eh cool ke [pe], I I think right the packaging design was like one of my


if that one is your part of your module it was offered to me for that one sia ya, figure drawing at least macam rilek rilek [jer]


ya tapi ini ini this one is under graphic comm ya lah


, ya this time round kau ambil berapa eh oh ya aku kena six sia six credits ya then the the the packaging one was actually four credits and


oh jadi macam tak match mismatch gitu lah


uh ya that's true I don't know where I'm gonna work for intern eh because you know why, cause like


next semester kau ada PD professional development uh so like that course so it helps you like helps you like uh macam choose what ya then at the end of the semester tak salah aku we will have an artist speech


ya then artist speech [kan] you have to like really go all out for that one minute one minute [jer] tau kau boleh berbual and then they will invite artist to come then like on the spot if they like you they will hire you ya but I don't think I will get it that's the thing because because class aku ada banyak orang yang stand out


(uh huh) (uh huh) okay !huh!


what ours because ours [kan] you can choose wherever you want to work then like one of my seniors also he he he wants to be a tattoo artist sekarang dia kerja kat tattoo studio ah, advice you uh okay uh ya (uh huh)


ah but then ah I thought intern intern is in sem year two sem one what, uh ya year three sem one but by the time by the time next year kau kena dah ada kerja [pe]


intern like you need a spot I think so eh because ITE macam gitu [pe]


ya but cannot be last minute you you get the job what then then our cikgu also don't know where we working, where we interning I mean


ya exactly ah ya ya ya


it depends ah cause like I feel like because like we have to like find ourselves a job ya then tak ada cikgu yang nak tolong kita I feel like I don't know


true ah like you have your own voice


ya, depends ah if you are interested in that in that company ke apa ke


that C , taxi,


curator a'ah, kedai


aku tak tahu because like I want to work but then I feel like aku kena fikir dulu pasal sekarang aku baru aku baru okay


okay ah tapi aku aku confirm dengan kau bukan this week ah okay maybe end of this week end of this week end of this week aku tengok macam mana okay


it's always like that this one is what BHG is a mall I mean like it's a stall right a'ah ah bukan kau ambil temperature


what so what did you do yesterday for how long


then then how did you say you wanna quit kau cakap apa [orh] abeh abeh apa uh paid pula


so so what is your plan now


tapi kat outram park [seh] !ee! tak nak ah


ah ya lah green tea party, I feel like toys R us more fun though


I like toys,


it's not bad I think and plus it's only a temporary position from if I'm not wrong err twenty fifth novemeber until, ya end of december I don't know outram


it's even further for me, !huh!


no but the thing is will we work together or no, always like that one


I don't know sia, feel like I need to work on my art


anyway how's school, like you receive your result already no right but it was last week


you know I got a new teacher for my err oh god you don't have this module, err you know something like IVA but I feel like our IVA like very different it's like history ah art history


okay lah so aku bilang kau it's art history so uh buat essay ah


ya then I was like


you mean like for report writing all these ah, maybe it's just him because all this while okay [jer]


and he's much more strict, oh ya lah


ya but these days aku aku like really like really like obsessed with


err western food, ya, I know, okay lah


I think it's an okay price [bah], treat yourself girl


I spend a lot sia on my project, print apa ah


CPJ pun kena print, ah, !oi! you're not supposed to ya but cikgu aku pun cakap aku punya we don't call it CPJ we call it contextual


doc so doc, ya, and then he said it was one of the best one SOS, ya


really Effy Effy Effy also like uh was one of the example


exactly exactly, ya


ya ya ya ya, then book out every friday [kan] ya lah do you meet him everyday, kat mana ah


oh but you don't mind right, oh how are things with, with him


when [seh] you never tell me about this [orh] really


plus kau orang dah ngam berapa lama and it's just a one fight so no point in in like you know just turunkan ego lah how old is he ah twenty one


, but you don't see that


really


I think maybe the distance makes it ya (uh huh) ya attached


ya ya that happens and then jumpa every weekends which I think is good lah, ya how to fight with him in NS okay ah


serious ya you like this guy then after that you wait for him until he end his shift ya exactly oh my god


that was year belum lah going to ya going to yes oh my god ya


ya same year same year sindir that one I don't know nevermind ah we can come to each other's one if different


annoying eh you, and aku tak nampak dia all the time aku nampak dia dua tiga kali [jer]


really, , ya true true


[kan], ya lawa gila but she stay in Jakarta !huh! dia drop out


oh, to be honest ya ya ya


okay so basically we have to do twenty slides then twenty slides uh twenty seconds for twenty slides you talk, and then you just talk about yourself ah she never do, he like that she can


I don't know sia cause last year last sem right there was this girl who like she she didn't attend the entire semester but I but I saw her in year two, like how did she even progress to year two when she didn't even come to class


, ya datang sekolah balik ah


so kat sini ah, tower block aku kat tower block [seh]


uh serious I'm at level six


monday aku sekolah [pe]


instagram twitter, uh, really but just try ah can can you you can work part time ah so you just try first ah


a'ah ah okay [orh] okay apa not bad you can right your your your your your style is more of like minimalist


ya even part time


(mmhmm), what do you do


picking and packer berapa banyak sia kau apply, !huh! nine AM nine AM to five PM


that's long, that's like office hour, depends ah,


ya, oh ya I thought you gonna show me


, among us


mana ada aku cakap macam gitu no ya lah


ya later it's not what you expected so office hours lah


!duh! when when are you gonna get engaged


next month pun not bad [pe] next year bila update aku tau, end of year next year lambat [pe]


I cannot wait already, HDB ya lah I think it's deposit ya


oh kau kau tak ada kucing [kan] kau tak ada [kan] kau ada ikan ke apa cash oh


, ah


what are you gonna do are you gonna do like just okay but tunang tunang is not married right


but but wedding you will invite a lot of people


ya


he emo [kan] (uh huh) ah lol lol lol dia very a'ah sia


what I do ya , anyway back to the


ya ya and he's like ya like he have to stand up for himself tapi dia tak ikut langsung ya ya so like uh


like


or if not not even gonna follow the advice true ya ya ya ya or say like I'll I'll see I'll see how it goes dia macam dia macam I don't know I cannot ya


tapi kau dah pijak kepala sia


, uh tapi tapi last week aku nampak dia at the printing shop macam not bad [jer] sekarang rambut dia purple, ya true


no I feel like when you when you find the love of your life already right


you don't have to like then


(uh huh) no but you always last time during CB you skype with me also never wear makeup what ya true


ya to be honest ya


to be honest to be honest when I was in like the same class as you that time I really like put in effort tapi sekarang aku macam just like malas sikit ya


is it


oh mine is like, nine to eight on monday, but there's no cute guys anyway so actually no ah don't dress up for guys I just


ya, do you agree that like, you you dress up more when there are girls around right ya you know like last time when I had like when I was in secondary school I had like a lot of like guy friends then I don't even care about how I look but then when I go out with girls right !wah! I need to like macam ya I need to like look good


ya, ya like pretty sia then I'm like one potato ya I usually I usually stress whenever I go out with my friends I don't know what to wear like that


ya so she she texted like where are you guys with a period, then after that nobody reply okay nobody reply then after that she was like uh if you guys don't reply I'm going to leave right now, then like I think one of us grab there grab to Bugis


anyway ya back to that story


ya lah I stress so much until I at the end of the day I don't even dress well,


okay but that time we wear warm tone for our photoshoot what okay kau pakai baju apa ah that time


oh ya


okay okay okay !oi!


ah light festival, ya gerek ah, a'ah, ya it's obvious


she told me also afterwards aku act blur ya aku act blur a'ah


good times ya


ya lah


then I was like ya ramai orang tahu sia actually


ya, ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya


anna nah a'ah


a'ah ya peluk ah ah !siala! ya nak mampus


, to be honest annoying gila ah, ya same


ah ITE


ya like baru habis O level N level whatever GS class


[a'ah]


okay


, ya ya the when one yang you were studying at home [kan]


how sia because that time I I didn't know how keras it was until I came aku balik lambat that time because the the tempat that I live [kan] is betul-betul opposite the


and then dia macam dalam tau sebelah ha the best part tempat aku tinggal is betul-betul sebelah Fuchun primary, uh I think I'm not sure which one I just saw Fuchun primary, no no the one that I'm staying in sekarang ya


the HQ the police HQ dengan muslim world


the new on ya ya ya the new one, ya no as in this is the temporary one


nine six six direct straight all the way pergi I'm like ah I came here within forty five minutes, ya but it's only untuk tiga minggu [jer]


ya so after the three weeks then kita boleh masuk the new house lah, ya


near the MRT [kan] but the other side, ya tu aku tu aku tak berani because the next bus [kan] yang pass by that tempat ya I saw like oh


like is it like macam kalau secondary school [kan] like dia orang kasi like that booklet [kan] untuk uh like you can either apply directly atau you go through the system [kan] then for primary apa like kau apply directly or


that one aku tak tahu ah because their


okay okay ya, so that's what your what your parents bid ah ya but ya and hantu


ya, (mmhmm) kau primary school ada cadet


oh brownish ya ya ya, with the yellow lah I promise to do my best oh my god it was it was a score you know but then again the secondary school like I mean I didn't evergreen leh suicide, ya , cute,


ya ya


oh the flag thingy ya, fit ah ya


!huh! founder kat singapore


john, oh okay, oh, okay, okay okay,


ya betul lah ya,


, , my CC, because my school punya like very limited so dia orang cuma ada like sports


okay my first school they they only offer sports ya but secondary school they offer sports home econs, uh apa lagi eh, I think that's about it and then when bila aku baru nak graduate then dia offered arts


so I I got to do arts for like, two months or three months ya, so like dari like from primary school uh I was in track and field uh apa nama benda tu tak tak it's not netball


captain ball captain's ball ah, and then secondary school I was in captain's ball, for like only during PE ah then after that I officially join futsal, for until sec four ah summer ah


me no ah


oh, oh aku dengar for like for the exam you literally have to cook


, oh no they say like kalau ha you can it's like god purposely let you makan because ya five minutes


ya, I never studied music so bila aku kat poly [kan], because in poly I joined, because in poly I joined the percussion punya band


and then there was this one part of the test where the instructor ajar kita orang how to read music tapi aku lost gila ya


okay lah aku aku pass the paper lah but the actual practical aku macam !huh!, ah


oh oh that's recorder oh aku teringat squidward clarinet


(oo), that's fun, ah


is it like the the drum eh


hehe, ya ya ya ya that one


oh ya that one ah, that's not that's not Gamelan eh, oh


oh that one is like dia macam xylophone gitu [kan] it's something like that lah tapi dia like circle circle


, but ya kau jadi apa malay dance, fusion macam mana kau joget sia


(oo)


handball aku tak tahu (uh huh), ya


actually lah at first macam macam malas [kan] but then after awhile then you're like okay , (uh huh)


ya,


, shit sia ,


camp qiam ah, uh I think ada lah because we had this program in primary six yang eh kaki kau ada semut


uh and then apa tu that one kita it's like uh like you know those masa adam Khoo punya camps, like they try to motivate you that kind of thing but like this one is more fun ah so we go to like the other school and then


uh we camp over [kan] but then like before I don't know why but last time, everytime ada camp [kan] mesti ada that night walk tau ya and then before night walk they will always show you cerita hantu tau atau cerita seram before that so for that for that one they showed us uh movie the orphan I think


really, honestly aku tak ingat because, my group was the first group to go off so we couldn't watch the movie uh


it was quite scary because the sekolah that we had to go was #wak tanjong# ya then #wak tanjong# [kan] it's like, ya then so macam we had to crawl over stuff and benda semua tapi aku mesti teringat mesti ada hantu kat sini something like haunted house ah ya


then dia orang cakap ah macam if kalau if you see anything uh you try to find the


(oo) bye ,


ya, (oo) yang army I think the first episode ke second episode


ah, oh ah yang bila dia baru masuk eh habis dia kena bully [kan] cause mak dia hantar dia a'ah


(mmhmm)


ya, (mmhmm)


oh macam apa tu like ha caterpillar baru nak cakap train, ya


, and then


!huh! trip, ya


which is, (mmhmm)


ah


ya, ya is it korang like got trapped, in the tempat eh


ya korang you take some time lah ya


it's literally next to the madrasah it's the I think the the founder of the sekolah punya family Aljunied ya


oh because that used to be dia punya tempat ah like is it like the ha the tanah or the kampung where most of them tinggal kat situ ah


ya, and macam I, ya, ya


ya, oh yang tu lah


and then aku macam it was very like seram ah aku just tengah jalan minding my own business and then pergi bus stop aku nak cari bus and aku tengok tepi I was like eh kubur


oh a'ah ya, silver and my


, ya


ah, the house


ya,


it's a kolah right, ya uh oh the one you can hide a child inside


kau letak tangan dalam mesti lepas tu ada benda tarik kau ,


ya lah, ya tak comfortable lah


!huh!, is it a real thing though it's not right I heard like it's orang eh, is it someone hantar jin or is it orang tu sendiri is the one


the what oh they send benda tu ah, oh so they are


!ee! a'ah, oh so is the person themselves lah


ya


ya which reminds me of the incredible tales because ada this one episode where, I think indonesia and then while they were going up to the tempat [kan]


they met some of the some of the people lah then they they told them ah they went to the shop and then, I don't know if it's a bomoh but I think and then she macam advice dia orang [kan] dia dia she advise them about the macam pantang larang gitu and then


they violated every single one of them, a'ah yang tu yang tu ha ya, like that one is


no leh, eh aku tak tahu ah cause oh


oh so, ya, ya, oh apa they malay peninsular so sama hantu lah


so it's not, it's because when I first saw it [kan] oh !chey! okay no because I thought at first it's a pontianak but then the cerita tunjukkan [kan] because the girl was pregnant then she hit the fact from the other friends


so [kan] that thing will, uh incredible tales ya that episode no no, ya, ah hanging ya


ya, ah, okay


oh ah, ya kat singapore, ah


that sounds dangerous, ah, ah


which makes me wonder tau because [kan] dia orang patut [kan] they can go through, like solid objects tak boleh affect them [kan] tapi they get stuck


oh amal pengamal (oo),


okay, so he go out and then read


okay, tu yang aku tak faham like you would take you would pay lots of money, to apa tu get the services of


like jin dengan bomoh tapi like benda surgery kau tak nak , ya apa yang natural it's supernatural


okay fine, ya


oh oh oh, I know oh the I don't know what's the purpose tapi aku tahu like dekat episode tu they show


that thing was going after the perempuan yang pregnant, ya but why I don't know lah, what's that, !chey! okay


I know because like one reasons is because macam like they are more vulnerable and then they are macam mana eh


so they try to like steal it from them which is apa tu the baby lah it's like new life


I think, ya ya ya uh something right ya ah


ya itu that one just, because they they either makan the anak atau they curi the anak atau they ikat the rahim !eww!


I'm kind of I don't know this I don't know what's some isn't gonna miss


they make it they package it ah so easy to use ha, ya ya ya, they make it into a sabun [kan] so senang


packaging in marketing, ya


oh I thought is the doctor what or the nurse, hospital legit ah


uh dia tengah beranak [kan] and then she saw a white figure then the nurse cakap oh that one is normal usually when people give birth they always see that figure, ya, ha


so kirakan macam kalau like you give birth, but then someone benda lain might be, what the hell


so is that is that why like hospitals are haunted, deaths


so it's seram [seh] but then kalau macam you are if you are in the operating room [kan] and then kau baru give birth you know that the doctor is the one that's taking you right, oh that's why that one macam make sure kalau kau kat dalam [kan] you have someone like your family there so they can ha okay okay


ah


oh but then KTPH masih baru [kan] the, ,


sorry ah but I have like submissions and an exam coming up , it's like you want to disturb me come back in like two hours let me finish this and submit


yes let me do this until two three five night then you come okay , ya


oh ya ya ya tidur mati ah, ,


oh is it


(oo) so if it wakes you up then different story ah ha bodoh lah


ya, but apa yang dia call it apa err it's not khayalan it's like, your imagination eh, it's like it's your, imagination eh a'ah ya ha


because very vivid ya


no ya that's what I found out actually actually this one the son of a peach also he he posts, the he looked up the stuff [kan] then he saw that actually jin dengan you cannot see jin and syaitan because they are in a different dimension ya so


ya oh no no cannot cannot, ya so what happens is that because kau kena apa tu hasut [kan], so whatever that you see is actually just


ya, true ya, they play with your mind ya ya


, ya macam that's why macam you nampak benda tapi orang lain tak nampak [kan] ya, ya


[seh] okay , ya, also orang lain yang kena ah


ya, disturb the people around them, ya


oh no wonder,


, tap, oh tap ha, (mmhmm), kau pergi jahit malam-malam apa cerita okay


, wait so that's one of the ways they kacau you ah


okay okay okay I don't know


eh a'ah eh poltergeist, ha dia orang selalu buat [kan] macam like those supernatural punya like, paranormal eh


ya, ya I remember I watched the one yang kat malaysia [kan] where they the the whole entire team


and then like baca-baca something basically like inviting the hantu gitu ah


the thing will come to the person, and then err like they will start like bordering the, and then and then the person will like try to exit to go back to dia punya the team outside right


then like I don't know whether it's true or not because, like usually when they go out they we have like a a bomoh on standby gitu ya, ya like in case if anything happens [kan]


and then like how do you know whether it's true or not, I mean ya but then


(oo) ah ya


, then


singapore


!huh!, so you telling me that the hantu also like shifted back to the kampung then oh it became less popular eh less demand


ya,


oh I think it's because like is it like people in singapore tak practise as much as those, and also because like we don't have much of the resources juga ah ya really like maybe ada memang ada lah but like


modernised eh, we are religious, ya, a'ah sia


ya that's true, and like the pantang larang for bomoh right is more


ya it's so leceh satu and then it's like for the rest of your life or for as long as you are using it [kan] but for if you go for plastic surgery it's like, only two three months recovery then can already


ya, no lah for boobs it's like you need to change, every like ten years or five years ya


that one I don't know ah I think maybe it's just the expiry date or what, probably but ya ha


it's troublesome, like [kan] dia cakap tak boleh you cannot walk under the galah but then kat kampung dulu dia orang pakai galah Kot


I I thought they use the clothes line the string tak eh, and kenapa galah like aku aku tak faham !huh! what's that


bamboo, oh is it they are scared of bamboo


properties ah then what if it's made out of metal atau plastic, !huh!


there's so many questions that, ya, oh a'ah eh ya


no bila macam those extendable galah [kan] that one made of metal what no meh, no outside of oh ya


no lah I mean if you you are drying it [kan] is it's already


so kirakan like when you absent-mindedly walked under the galah lah ha, ya,


what's eh wait but for susuk kalau terkeluar you can just masukkan balik [kan], ha then, it's macam mana eh it's it's this actual peniti [kan] something like that


ya, I know like there used to be this show dekat Suria where


where they show no not cerita hantu it's


ya, and then like if kalau kau histeria [kan] you can see the needles in your face


is it so if like ya unless unless if you go under the galah and then dia jatuh sendiri ah


it's either you cannot die or cause susah nak mati like the nazak right, wait so the person will die lah it's just harder, ya


but tetap can die lah so okay ah, because if you cannot die ah habis suffer like that, so tak mati ah oh take it out


oh ya ya ya so it's like a


(oo), ya, is it like


is it like your senses are still intact eh for a few it's like paralysis


ya, you know I I would just feel stuffy because, the kafan and everything


, ya but it's like you tangan semua


ya ya ya, wait so they don't they don't bury you with kain batik kain batik is before [kan]


the funeral right oh !chey! ya so kiranya bila masuk kau keluarkan dari batik ah


[kan], , no lah it's just, ha, oh


oh my my mum said like if, err she said like ni orang-orang dulu kata ah macam if you are at the funeral [kan] jangan diri depan kaki mayat because in case kalau bukan-bukan kalau like the person pernah ada simpan barang [kan] they might pass it to you ya so don't like stand I don't know how true this is ah but


ah ya, then do what


, or really well what did you say, is it like what if you say eh what if you just nod is that considered, oh my


ya oh I think that's why okay okay


ya ha, cool [pe], no as in the roof is what boleh buka oh okay okay okay


the thing leave, if the thing leaves, I think I watched ya


oh my god, good lah


the thing, ya good ah, but then you would know right if the thing wants you or not


ya


, okay


sincere ah, ,


same ah, oh my god my mum like the interview she said like uh she would work right and then she would take leave then when her ask when her friends asked her like eh you took leave where you go the she said I won't go I'm gonna stay home and gosok baju and then aku macam ya she did I was like then what do you do for fun no lah I just stay home ah if my friends invite me maybe we go


like watch movie or what but after that I come back home I take leave so that I can wash everyone's clothes at home [lah] <malay>gosok baju semua</malay> because ya, ya and then like it's not like <malay>dua tiga orang</malay> [tau] like in the house there's like ten plus people I'm like why


eh recently, you got listen to misteri jam dua belas or not


podcast


!huh! tak ah aku tak berani I mean aku takut kena kacau sekali tu aku dah takut ya eh I think I told you right that time then ya I was studying at home I think I was twelve ah I was studying at home right then the the


I don't know the thing like listen to the the the radio show then I'm like eh I'm talking about me she could go and disturb me, eh you let's listen together no no I add sound effects what the hell I mean you know my place my areas sana banyak keras [kan] shit lah


wait you used to live in woodlands


wait your house is dekat Fuchun Fuchun primary baru ke Fuchun primary lama is it near Marsiling primary


old Fuchun eh no ya lah Fuchun primary new one lah that's near my house then I thought you were living at mos


oh eh, luck ass lucky lucky but at least now right this one's whose house


oh, LOL eh but


lucky eh but okay like three weeks eh not bad if in this three weeks you are late for school you just hit me up we take taxi together LOL eh but your house near the old Fuchun also wait wait wait where is HQ opposite HQ so it's ya lah really near Fuchun ah Fuchun sec Fuchun primary it's the new one if the old one is near uh marsiling primary also


I I only went to the old Fuchun for apa tu for uh orientation I was like my first year in my primary school because but my first my first uh my first year in primary school was at the new one it's just that when I orientation it was at the old one


oh I remembered like telling my mum I don't want don't want I don't want my mum,


I don't know but I remember I think I think your parents apply for primary school then they give you like macam mana I think you bid when I think it's bidding right is it by bidding or something no I think for uh apa tu PAP pun sama [kan] uh the kindergarten I think because my sister she did the same thing I think she bid for placement


so it's not enough place they'll put you another place ya they said Fuchun was uh one of the best primary schools there a lot produces a lot of uh apa they say a lot of high scorpions and which is true ah


it was it was it was like I mean I did have some like experiences like some weird ass, !huh! have


it I I join brownies you know that one with brown with the yellow scarf I promise to do my best oh my god it was just it was a scout ya but then again the secondary school like I mean I join evergreen like so it's like


like apa evergreen they didn't have like brownies it was red cross or then there was NCC NCD MP then I was like okay lah red cross sounds like similar sekali I join aku join


no lah it was more of the guy I forgot what's his john something, it it's switzerland I forgot what's the guy's name shit but ya you have to remember the different geneva conventions things like that, so like in a way I guess I was learning


I guess I guess in a way I eh I I guess in a way I was learning about sociology early in the day lah oh actually ya now I know why I pick sociology LOL but ya, it was interesting it's just that my special ya like I said lah are my specialisation was red cross knowledge and first aid I was gonna take an evac gold but


I , I got sick I got sick during my first aid goal and my evac gold the test because we had to go to the HQ to take the like test lah but I was sick I couldn't make it so I was like I only had like


I only had apa eh, everything was bronze except for my RCK ah red cross knowledge ah I found it I was sad but at the same I didn't give a, I didn't care, I mean at that time lah I mean who cared lah right, eh what was your scene secondary school


first school


(mmhmm)


oh captain's ball


cook right


you didn't have to take home econs as a subject no eh for us it was compulsory everyone had to take home econs D&T


had to cook ya I had to put during fasting month batal sia legit terbatal puasa aku I was like unconsciously I was like (hmm) rasa masin tak shit ya I was like ya oh my god oh no then I was like am I supposed to spit it out my friends was like ah batal [jer] lah then I was like Alahai shit lah tak sengaja then ya you can okay lah I mean I felt guilty for like I was like okay lah batal batal lah it's fine I ganti anyways


but ya I mean in primary school right I didn't take CCA per se because my school like sports right was a compulsory like, you know like you had to take different music we had to learn different musical instruments you had to learn different sports I had to learn floorball


(uh huh), (uh huh), shit your basic really zero


stay in stay in beat ah


oh, is it like was it F F, SFA or something I don't remember I don't remember I don't remember I honestly don't remember it was such a long time


oh ya the the, I had to learn in primary school


recorder ah the long one flute is at the side ha then uh, oh ya then in secondary school my school ask us to learn Gamelan I I I was in charge of the big gong


not the big gong is like one side is smaller than the other side is bigger you know that what oh no it's the I I at first I was gong I was in charge of the gong, then what ah I was in charge of the gong but it's like


, I forgot what's the name but ya I I was in charge of the gong but it's like


ya lah I had to uh I had to masuk Gamelan play guitar piano had to learn piano apa tu ha they made us dance they made us fusion dance then uh contempt I was like oh my god do I look like I can dance (hmm)


no it's uh fusion so they mix malay chinese indian dance, they mixed it around lah I mean I wasn't a fan of dancing I mean I learnt dancing before it's just that


I'm more of a musician ha me is not uh apa tu dancer you know saya bukan penari ya I was like okay ah apa tu then for sports we had to learn floorball in primary school floorball


tchoukball or something is it the one you throw them net they had through at the net, I don't remember floorball tchoukball I don't remember ya I mean we did play uh captain's ball a lot I was always the goalkeeper


cause I was great at catching balls I was good at no pun intended but ya ya ya I played a lot frisbee uh I played basketball in secondary school then rugby was like my final like touch rugby was my final


we learn, played a lot lah we played a lot I was good at sports but when you know you had to run around like run around the field you know to warm up I'm like [orh] <mandarin>:</mandarin> tak nak tak nak tak nak then it's like


okay lah, that's why in like you know secondary school I was so fit then the moment I went to poly I gained so much weight because I didn't do the same amount of physical activity I was eating I was still having like unhealthy lifestyle I slept like like irregular eat irregularly also ya it's okay now I can tell people I tried a lot of things that's why I tell people what I'm a jack of all trades master of none


but ya I think primary school and secondary school there's a lot of like ghost stories sia ya especially you know you go to camps, do you do you have any camps like do you guys have any like


ha okay you continue


(oo),


we loved it, yes, is it that's not really horror though more of thriller right it's the it's the kid who pretended to it's the adult who pretended to be a kid right because she had some disorder right


oh, oh shit, ah, ya it was rumah orang [kan]


it's it's like haunted house lah [kan] it's like it's like during our camp lah [kan]


yikes, faci faci, he stare at you no I mean for me my night walk I mean I had a I had like camps lah primary school


primary five then secondary school sec two you know always they had the night walks right it was at the you know those really old camps did you watch okay you watched incredible tales right you saw yang you know about the the the the, what is it ah


one of the the the the guys right one of the army one of the army stories, no not the not the one that the guy died with the the not with the intestines all over the floor one it's the other one is the the one that he offended the offerings or something then


ya because he mummy boy ya that place lah the that that place they used as like the no it was at a camp I don't remember but I think it's now closed is it Sarimbun is Sarimbun closed I don't remember it was I think Sarimbun because I remember sleeping on those bunks


ya but ya when I had those night walks right it was, okay because night walks right what they did was that the line the route with glow sticks tau, they line the route with glow sticks then the


the like you are free to walk ah


caterpillar gitu ha I was usually either the first or the last one because I wasn't scared you know I'm not scared lah so but the weirdest thing you at what for some reason once [kan] what happened was aku tengah like everything was okay like it it started out fine


it started out fine but right it's like, like when how say eh uh, it started out fine but it's like err when we came back from like to go back to the campsite right


when we went to the camps when we tried to come back to the campsite lah so basically after the uh night the first mission night walk right then they had a briefing then tepuk ah something like that we walked back to the campsite that I somehow tripped tripped but I didn't really trip because it was


I was like walking normally you know like you know you walking normally right like are there was nothing for me to trip on or like off or something I felt like something grab my ankle then I slipped


like so basically [kan] like okay so I was injured so I I fell so I I sprained my ankle [kan] so yang dia punya faci dia [kan] the eh no a teacher wanted to take a shorter cut lah because I was injured right so they uh they brought three of us took the shorter cut by the time we sampai dia punya campsite [kan]


everyone was showered, everyone finished showering already


[kan] if you think about it because we took a shorter cut, I don't know I don't know it didn't feel very long it felt like it was short but the problem is when we reach everyone was either showered or the last few are showering you know that [kan] so you can you think do you like people shower you you get the girls and all lama juga lah [kan] ha lama juga so I was oh my god until now I can't figure out what happened but ya


creeped the heck out of me,


it's near a madrasah also right, why would you put your kubur there tanah ah


Aik,


no I think they know because I went to search up on you know where to visit you know we we always do those visits right and I was searching where to visit ah then I saw this one place they said kubur melayu tengah-tengahnya apa tu kat Bugis juga I think


like beside that's why when the moment you said oh kat Bugis right then I was like is it near the near the madrasah and when you said yes I know about this story it's quite famous lah I mean who would think


yikes, [kan] I mean the only time I experienced that was that time kampung lah


okay lah okay it was fine it was fine it was because you know you pergi surau you won't go alone what especially because I budak singapore [kan] mana orang nak bagi anak pergi sana especially because malaysia you know ah there's a lot of those cases right so


so it's like I mean seram is seram but yang paling seram is one of my uncle's house dekat ni jalan #tan kee# it's kat KL eh but I think they move ah already it was damn dilapidated


it's like the area was macam it was how to say ah they want to, they just stayed there lah so bad in everything smelt then the house smelt


no it's open air it's zinc oak lah it's just a zinc panels sebelah kiri kanan habis you know it's the dia punya tempat air dia orang simpan air kat tempayan you know those


ya but I mean I shower because it was with my mum but imagine if I was I was alone I will not shower I don't know how my sister went to shower alone oh my god dah lah masa tu tengah ada case apa tu you know they masa that one is early two thousand still got case of apa tu orang minyak ke apa [kan] something like that


no they say that


LOL


oh yang nenek tu eh, is it the makcik bomoh that one that episode


(uh huh) cause I watched that one, ya the one that the guy potong kuku malam-malam then the guy the other guy bukanya payung dalam rumah [kan] ya ya why what's your question


you will realise that okay you realise that a lot of the folklore right it's similar because we live in the same region you know if you check our genealogy [kan] philippines indonesia melayu orang orang singapore yes correct we are all basically the same ethnicities just that because of the you know the like they they split up and things like that !aiya! anyways but ya it's actually the same folklore lah


that's why you said lady in white right for us it's pontianak you were saying, (mmhmm)


oh one of the one of the oh it wasn't in the it wasn't in the oh ya ya ya ya ya the penanggal yang takde so basically the apa tu the organs that one right ya it's not a joke my dad used to oh ya you know I I did the interview right so basically uh for our interview for the coding in school right for class so my dad actually used to work for telcom


you know zaman dulu is yang apa tu tali dia hanging [kan] kat atas it wasn't underground like now [kan] ya so basically singapore ha kat JB kat malaysia tak lah kat singapore lah so basically like apa tu they had to change dia punya lines kadang-kadang kalau kadang-kadang dia uh telephone lama dia orang [kan] rosak then he was one of the people who go and repair


ya it was ah it's technician ah electric punya technician so basically what happened was that you know if you tukar senja-senja you'll see sometimes the penanggal head will get stuck at the at the hanging lines


ha they practise ah but I don't remember what was the reason I know I know err orang minyak is to be good looking or something, I don't remember I think he was ugly or something then he say that he wants to like he was sick of people making fun of him or something aku tak ingat right no no no he made a made a perjanjian dengan syaitan then to like to make himself look handsome LOL (ppc) then that's called something called plastic surgery sia plastic surgery


but like I kind of understand because when you work with not bomoh lah but you work with syaitan right it's natural I guess I mean the fact that you don't have


it's not painful, it's not painful and I mean it hurts your soul but not on your face I guess err I don't know lah I mean #allahu alam# ah eh


that's why I say I don't know you go Google lah I don't know what else ah


oh dia nak makan anak dia I think, to stay young, right I I remember I remember a lot of stories where they say that they eat babies to stay young


people correct


I guess it's kind of make sense but I mean if it was a follow ah they say that err they put because they are this one jin or ghost [kan] hantu [kan] that will actually steal the baby ya it's the same jin that you were telling me that day we were talking about that day I think


ya ya I don't want to talk about it who knows they're talking the thing will I mean I mean


I don't know what's the name of the daun but it's like


ya I I they say that it cleanses something no I don't remember but if I remember I'll tell you but it's like ya they say it clean like apa tu uh


no it's, islam, they said they use it for kalau orang kena rasuk ke kena rasuk kena apa tu kena hantar apa tu sihir ke they use the daun or something I don't remember this one daun they even sell sabun or like sabun because who want to buy daun and go and clean yourself


use it's the same idea as tanah liat you know so you touch pig or dog you can just wipe what ya technology ya


but ya actually a lot of the Jins are quite chicken sia I heard a lot of people right need to be careful like you know people give birth right you don't know who the one who sambut the baby, welcome it I know when you give birth the one who will help you give birth midwife midwife I mean uh you hear stories that sometimes inside the


they see extra people inside the room when they


figure or figures of things like that because my mum said when she was pregnant with me right eh no not with me with my eldest brother she was disturbed quite a lot inside the hospital


taking it lah, I mean like I said lah the the the jin we were talking about this it eats uh it steals babies and things like that that's why they say what actually the the reason behind oh need to go back inside the house uh uh sebelum maghrib right


I don't know maybe, but then again there's a lot of deaths in hospitals also so I guess understandable never wanna become a nurse or doctor fuck no


, , can you imagine like maybe I don't know


I don't know, but ya you can you imagine the doctor when got nurse then sekali got extra nurse the one that sambut your baby oh no oh my god hell no because my mum says that it's very keras lah that's why I was so scared when I was hospitalised early this year I was like but then again new places also got things what everywhere got things what even talking about them right now confirm they'll be like oh they talking about me


I I told my mum if they're gonna like disturb me at my house also I'm gonna be like whatever I'm so tired I'm too tired I'm not getting enough, I don't I don't have I don't get enough sleep for me to deal with your bush


ya let me let me get some sleep first you come you you set appointment and you come back no because that time during I I, (ugh) two bad you don't you don't go to camp sia but that time when I was like red cross in brownies I always had camps right sometimes like when you too tired I don't know whether it's a hallucination or not but I'm pretty sure I'm not because what I'm the kind right once I sleep I like if world war three happens also I wouldn't wake up I will sleep even when a bomb drops ya tidur mati ah ya then like so basically what happened was that I was awake I woke up I was groggy but I was awake I mean I'm blind lah I wear specs lah but I was awake but I saw like something at the end of my bed like standing


I was looking at it okay baca apa kau aku baca pun kena kacau that's why, it prevents you get getting disturbed in your sleep but it's not when you are awake


different story it can go into your dream also what they say, that's why sometimes if you dream about something I don't know is it a like I mean a lot of like while uh psychological study said that oh it's just like uh was it what [seh]


they said that if it's pigments about fragments of life brought into your dream or something then they intensifies it or something but then again some dreams are so wild that you are ya that you can't help but to think


is it but then again when you hear about like I see like all the syarahan-syarahan they say actually jin can apa tu manipulate your dreams things like that even when they actually disturb you they can't touch you they can only manipulate your mind right


like you said what they can uh what is it ah they can show themselves to you or make themselves shown or something they manipulate your brain so like you think you see them


ya but then again right I feel like, I think rather than hasutan right if they can insert images in your brain when you're sleep right they can do the same when you are awake what ya so basically it's not exactly hasutan but it's more of because hasutan are words right they play with your mind ya definitely even when you see err like english like like american horror movies or things like that if you realise that most of it is just ya they play with your mind


it's because there are it's aiming you, but you know what I hate the most is sometimes right they aiming for you but they disturb someone around you


ya like they use they played other people to get to you, oh so since like this person semangat kuat akan disturb so I'm like ya like how my my sister lemah semangat [kan] so dia kena kacau instead of my father


because my kakak penakut I think no wonder anak dia pun ikut lah pergi toilet pun Bushu can you open the light for me mother never open the door please lah how old already you put switch on the light lah your house also it's not like house haunted okay actually ya maybe I don't know also her house maybe haunted because I kena tap before


I was sewing at night ya I was sewing for my friend like like a kimono cardigan at night lah around four AM, I was rushing it was her birthday soon so I was like I was like sewing then I was like trying on the feet lah whether it fits well the shoulders are okay I was looking in the mirror then suddenly I felt like a huge like a solid tap on my shoulder you know you can feel the tap you know and I was like I switch I turn the I turn the mirror like around then I was like I never disturb you you don't disturb me ha I want to sleep you don't disturb me and then I I just I I didn't switch off the light I went to my bed I just play the phone the whole night I don't dare the next day I went to sleep with my mum I was so scared I was like oh my god the heck tap me is different you know if it's like just khayal like if it's like uh you mean if it's your imagination right you will feel someone walk behind you or something but this one is not I felt sold tap like someone tapping my shoulder sounds like


what, no shit oh hell no ya but but I think a lot of the if you


correct correct then why you think who who pull my leg when I walk in the in the jungle what the heck right then all like when they throw things they move things


oh my god have you seen the the penampakan like and the videos and like got one video right I think malaysia or something, like the ya the paranormal activity kind of things right but I mean some of them are they faked they want views but some of them are not scared the heck out of me


with a camera right, ya like come here I'm already here for you come on baby oh my god ha


that's why ah, I honestly feel that K lah the one that I I I I'm a sceptic lah like you if you post on macam TV [kan] dia orang buka TV dia orang macam tunjuk [kan]


I feel like I I believe more those yang macam amateur amateur ones that macam a CCTV that one scares me for real like I saw one [kan] and he was like


waiting for her boyfriend then they were talking talking then her boyfriend go out she go out with her boyfriend then then there's ada CCTV show that she was talking talking talking then she U-turn back go back in the room use her phone, then suddenly she she was like she saw the chair move


like spin a bit she got scared she stand up and walk then when she was running for the uh door she got pulled back thrown thrown to the wall then like the the chairs and tables all like shifted


it was damn scary malaysia lah you singapore singapore I feel like singapore no matter how how haunted right cannot match like indonesian or like in malaysia I don't I don't know I feel like maybe because smaller


then because singapore I feel like singaporeans by that time singapore was modernise malaysia still kampung Kot, maybe dia orang tak no it's not that practice no if you realise a lot like like I said my


can I even say this though it's like like my nenek ada saka [kan], but it, the modern the more modern is it the the more religious you are the less likely you are to take over


I think oh I don't know I do know there some Bomohs in singapore I think it's more of because we are more we are more religious like we are more modernise ah


uh apa tu susuk emas dalam muka saya biar biar awet muda LOL what,


ya then I guess the I mean even your boob getting a boob job would like I guess you won't you won't I guess it won't expo and stuff lah but ya, I mean I mean, I mean like okay lah it's temporary or unless you like accidentally poke it or you're like what I don't know


is it ya oh because it will like corrode or something is it oh ya ya, okay


but ya


eh tak lah payung , I don't know I think buluh has some, I don't know like how you know certain like I said daun or air garam maybe like buluh has some


I don't know some, ah ya something like that I'm not sure


but why would you walk under the galah when there's clothes dirty water will drip on you anyway, would you walk under the galah if there's like dirty clothes above your head no why would I want underwear water on my hair


some people don't , or like or like or like if the wind blows right I got a I got a I got to brown my hair before my head


I guess but then again if you do susuk probably you won't you will be more aware lah I mean zaman sekarang I wouldn't know lah tengah main handphone !alamak! jalan bawah galah bodoh apa the heck but ya


but this ya, but I want one thing I'm I'm thinking is that what did they say once it comes out terkeluar right you because ah you become uglier


err accord sort is it they show you stuff


like and stays forever, ya boy, (mmhmm)


I guess so can you imagine your bomoh dies then you're you're you are no lah eh but then, but, the most people can they say you cannot die right you cannot die when


so you suffer more when you die ah macam saka ah


I don't know, not I think I think you'll be on the brink of death but never die, until you take it out or if you even if you die you are like finally die


you get it ya you like because you know right there's this like they say when you die, just because you your eyes are closed your heart stops beating your soul is not out of the body you can still feel everything


they say when they leave you to put inside your kubur apa tu tujuh kaki dalam tujuh kaki wide thing, you still can feel them lowering you down and things like that they can they can feel you kafan you they they can feel them showering you things like that


so basically imagine your daughter cries, you can hear everything you can feel everything it's just that you can't react, that's sad that's not scary that's sad


ya I think there'll be so frustrating you imagine your your mum hugging you and crying but you can't respond, I think I'll be sad I'll be so sad


it's like pakai baju biasa ah eh please lah you haven't die your clothes so thick already you wear so many layers kafan won't kill you it's just one layer you probably


it's just to cover the face so people don't macam stare at you or something it's just macam you okay if like you eat nasi lemak will you eat the wrapper, no you will eat the rice and the chicken and the sayur all what


ha, I don't know I mean depends on the family uh because you are unless, you not supposed to say this lah but unless the


it will push you back out or like your kubur will be filled with water things like that then I don't think the family members wanna keep either they just I think they just probably throw it away or like keep it


pass to you


no lah what you wouldn't know unless you experience it, they just I I the one that I know is jangan when they say terima tak or whatever ambil beban ke apa don't just just don't say yes there's no respond


or may Allah take your syaitan , ya I think so it's an agreement lah basically you are agreeing what if you nod it's a form of agreement what no matter


during nazak a lot of people pass cause I heard one time


ya if the thing leaves ah because I think I I don't know if you saw yang jangan pandang belakang they they the thing couldn't get out so it's just sticking at the walls climbing and all until the guy terima nenek dia punya benda tu I'm so glad when my grandma never pass to my mum no it's more like the thing doesn't want my mum


because my my my mum cakap the thing, like the thing picks its master, so like and


probably it will probably follow you around, I don't have a saka I'm a sucker but I don't have a saka you get me but ya it's like


how to say eh , I, lame okay and my mum said lah my mum said lah eh she said that the thing picks a master that is like


basic willing to help people gitu ah sincere lah so maybe like, it pick my grandma because of that but none of my pakcik makcik and my mum because my mum was definitely money money money my mum !wow! she went out to work work work work she said she had no life she that she did nothing but just work I ask her what's her hobby it's work


for real


ya so


if I have unusual superpowers think the the one that I'll definitely choose is, the ability to


use my potential, I'd say fully without, like any limitations or barriers and, another one would be, being having full self control


you know I'd say uh having these two mainly, because I feel that you know a lot of people they, they don't live you know , they born then, err even when they achieve success is not


it's nowhere near the it's not the full manifestation of their, potential so it's like, to fully express my potential without any like any single block nothing just a hundred percent full exposure


and also being like fully in control and fully I would say aware of, all different parts of myself, ya but of course if you ask about fancy superpowers I would say,


do you know actually I like, you know maybe, to have the nature of, uh selflessness, because you know as I grew older I realise all this fancy superpowers of flying and all that is quite boring it's not


it's cool to hear lah but it's not fun it's not, it's not very interesting lah it's just like, it's just flash without any content, err so ya that's for me lah, so for you


so what is the purpose of life according to you


but then there are a lot of people who, live without any purpose to like sixty seventy years old


that means going by that logic by right animals also have purpose lah


because because ya


ya, well for me I think the purpose of life I would say is, is, the purpose, in your life I would say in my life is


to find the purpose and meaning in our life, because, I mean life can change overnight in one day and, you know as we are recording now it's what eight O two PM, we have no idea if


we will still be alive at eight O three PM, or even like the next thirty seconds you know it's just an assumption, that we are we will, be there or it will come like, so I realise that a lot of is really really we are living under assumptions I mean of course it will be nice when the time comes but


and there's, when we are living under assumptions a lot of things get, put away we waste a lot of time, we just think that we're gonna live forever and that you know things will, magically just become okay and


to an extent yes I mean it's good to have, you know like, to think positively and to have hope, but, it shouldn't become like wishful thinking, because you know when there's wishful thinking then it becomes like just


that becomes an excuse to not change your life or not do anything about the problems or the situations in your life, so, things like that you know


okay so I would say, I wouldn't say there's isn't one major purpose, or, and to an extent I still I mean it's not even a believe but it's, logically you know it it makes sense that life is meaningless to an extent but through that meaningless you find a meaning


so it's like a very fine line of becoming, insane and, it's it's like finding yourself, in the middle of being insane insane you don't you don't wanna be fully sane because you become too boring you dont't want be fully insane then you cannot function so its finding yourself right in the middle


and that limit is different for everyone that you know the middle ground, so finding that and stepping into, the full potential and I'm going back to the superpower question, and then expressing whatever is inside


and doesn't matter what it is you know if it's, if it's just doing their lives job, to, collect, dead bodies and, to you know bring it to say a mortuary after like a crime scene or something like


you know leading, the army of a country, or saving people medically spiritually, emotionally, it's, that's not the you know the the main thing I would say it's more of


stepping into who you really are and living, by your dharma essentially, you know, so


ya, and


ya, then so it's like, we are all dying, as every minute passes by, and, even you, the researcher who's listening to this


whoever is involved in this program, who you know I'm the one who recording it my buddy is recording it we're all, dying by seconds milliseconds minutes, hours days weeks and


so when you put it in that context you come to realise our birthdays, really, birthdays, or do they become your death days if you celebrate your twenty first birthday, sure you are you're celebrating the day you were born twenty one years ago but


that day, at twenty one years old, have you become, born again, or have you just died twenty one years of your life, so that's something you know I, I thought about a lot ah and then I realised eh ya it's


it will sound morbid, but it's quite, err quite eye opening, quite enlightening, and, it's actually quite freeing because once you, at least for me lah you know I start to look at it and realise that all these


you know societal expectations, all these things it just sort of the frees the way you you look for, what's


it is more real, I mean in a way you can say there's nothing real in this world but it's what is more of more substance rather than just you know doing all the flash and the, smoke and all that kind of stuff but then it's just it feels like one big dream


then, you know so, and I mean this is a topic where we can just, discuss for, I'd say forever lah and in a way I would say it's a good


thing to discuss about this topic, even on an intellectual level, because it it it, can trigger new insights in every person who does it you know when the insides are different from person to person who have this conversation with themselves


uh some people get, very triggered scared and you know they just, because, to, do something theoretically and to, be face to face with it is different


I mean everyone knows we're going to die one day, not everyone has, sort of, come face to face with it


you know and, it's only when you, are close to dying or at least you feel like you're gonna die then you, the real you comes out, because before that it's just words and you know that kind of stuff but


at the moment where it's gonna happen when you really feel like you're, the real you, whoever that is will come out, and then you can see you know if you are the person that you said you are or the person that you just


think you are because the person that you think you are the person that you really are are two different things, and but it's quite a powerful, revelation, because you know for me I I have died almost twice and


and of course not a fun thing it's not you know a very safe experience or what but, I got a lot of life lessons from it and, it's one of those things that I was recommending to my friend the other day is you know we all should, just normal adults in general should have an experience where we


you know really feel like we're dying I mean we don't have to go and put ourselves in danger lah but there's a way to simulate like we are really dying, and you will really, awaken a different part


people take life for granted


so you know coming back to labels I I mean I feel, same, because there's


it's not a practical thing to do, because there are so many dimensions to each human being


even the, most boring person that, within them


so you know for myself I mean going back to labels I would say, you know each stage


primary school <tamil>வந்து:vanthu</tamil> was more of like, you know the the restless kid the playful, not, attentive


that is a weird point then when I went to secondary school it was more like, oh you know, people praising you for excellence I mean excellence in your studies and oh good boy you know like a smart boy that kind of stuff, then go to polytechnic


again same you know very like you know this is a good boy this is a good good behaviour boy, very well behaved boy lah the correct word and more like just you know


and, it's quite ironic because after that a lot of these labels, were broken, through a, a transformation process I would say, but actually this is a spiritual <tamil>ஒரு ஓர் ஆன்மீக பயணம்:oru or aanmeega payanam</tamil> but not one that I consciously began


it just came in a very violent way, not really physically violent but you know spiritual and emotionally, and psychologically quite violent, and, I'd say violent because


just you know out of nowhere just, and but now at this point the labels of delight you you don't give a shit anymore lah


to be to put it bluntly because I come to realise, people put labels for everything even called as labels, and, it's, it makes sense to us yes because you know


if we, accept, without labels then you know, we need to make sense of this and I feel that's the main issue


that makes sense <tamil>பண்ணனும்னா:pannanumnaa</tamil> and it becomes like eh but something is missing, and


and so ya I mean it's, but in a way I would say it's quite, motivating factor


because I view some of these labels to, you know , I used some of these labels as motivation to, to, break and throw away other labels


thoughts I feel are more helpful and constructive, then just labelling and


so I'll say


health care, access, and


you know we've actually been, volunteering, with this uh organisation called


are these people living in singapore <tamil>அந்த மாரி ஒரு யோசன போச்சு:antha maari oru yosana pochu</tamil> you know because the singapore that we see


and, the singapore that we see on TV, and the singapore that we saw in


have a house yes, but it's very tiny, sofa like, surrounding lah <tamil>ஒண்ணுமே இல்ல:onnumae illa</tamil> just


a very small <tamil>சின்ன ஒரு:chinna oru</tamil> with a dining table, in a good condition at all and these are like, essentials that you know


every human being should have uh proper clothing, you know and, again having access to, and, it's, of course again you know but singapore lah <tamil>வந்து:vanthu</tamil> is considered


it's quite, good, some other countries, take it beyond singapore


these two things are really really lacking in the world I mean world hunger, is major issue, and, I mean to put it frankly a lot governments out there a lot of money they've invested <tamil>கோடிக்கணக்கான பணம்:kodikkanakaana panam</tamil> in


preparation of weapons <tamil>அது இது:athu ithu</tamil> but, if, a fraction of that money, were to be focused towards maybe, elevating


just a small part, of world hunger, and, of course we are not saying you know, what would be perfect and all that but at least everyone has


a chance to fight, because, without all these people are like you know, one person don't even have a you know it's like <tamil>ஒரு ஆள் வந்து ஓட முடிது ஒரு ஆள் வந்து காலே இல்ல ஓடறதுக்கு:oru aal vanthu oda mudithu oru aal vanthu kaalae illa odarathuku</tamil> but you put them in the race to run


it doesn't make sense <tamil>கால் இல்லனா:kaal illanaa</tamil> you have to have least give them prosthetic legs and train them make sure they're comfortable in those prosthetic legs so they can run, with a person who has normal legs, if not it's just quite pointless and I feel it comes back down to the


the equality of, outcome, cool wool <tamil>வந்து ரொம்ப:vanthu romba</tamil> popular <tamil>ஆயிட்டு இருக்கு:ayittu iruku</tamil> you see that in the US a lot, you know where people say and oh , the only females and only this an only minorities and only that have to come for the position


and not about taking people who can only do the job well, you know and, I mean it it in a way it's it's, quite good guess they're giving, chances to you know more people, but at the same time it's


there's this you can say it's not, there's no equality of opportunity, you know and so by giving them the equality of opportunity and


who thought they will be able to go, so much more further and and also, you know as a human being, we have, so many you know


stories not just in you know hinduism but across the world and a lot of these, stories have a lot of similar, themes, about giving your life for another man about


you know sharing your bread, with with someone who doesn't even have bread at all that kind of stuff but, seems like you know all these things just


then


because, you are the last hope for humanity, uh I mean this is actually quite a, quite a


because I mean, we are doing everything that we think that again we we think ah in our minds that


will, somehow save us somehow make our quality of life better and all that but, we have just become so, complacent and world <tamil>வந்து இப்ப வந்து:vanthu ippa vanthu</tamil> it's just about


it's all about just us us us, us humans us humans us humans that you know


let's say <tamil>நம்ம:namma</tamil> lfe <tamil>எல்லாம் எடுத்துக்க தேவை இல்ல:ellaam eduthuka thevai illa</tamil> let's say, or, and that's what the country like you know, let's say if I have a bird


most people will be like, oh okay


so <tamil>அது பண்ற:athu pandra</tamil> role <tamil>விட மத்த:vida matha</tamil> animals <tamil>மத்த:matha</tamil> how it benefits that one they don't think


I mean, you'll become comfortable luxurious and all that yes of course we have advanced massively, in terms of you know luxurious living I mean


we're becoming more and more unhappy we're seeing, more, illnesses, people


robbery I mean it's a crime, the funniest thing is that


in a way, it's part of the brain washing, that people are behaving like this and, not to say that you know we're completely free of brainwashing no but


it's like, under, agenda <tamil>வந்து பாக்க முடிஞ்சா:vanthu paaka mudinjaa</tamil> you can see that, the media and news, popular music


ten twenty years you become


and, another thing is, and we about the extinction ah, is, people nowadays don't laugh a lot, you know people are too serious people are too


, , they have lost the gift of humour


and, and personally from my own experience and even amongst my friends and, , some you know inspiring people I've met, and even inspiring mentors who I've never met, you know who are overseas and what not one of the most


powerful tools which is humor and people think <tamil>ஆமா சிரிக்குறான் பைத்தியக்காரன்:aama sirikuraan paithiyakaaran</tamil> but no it's not true, when


because let's say if you mess up, and if you are very serious in your mind you gonna beat yourself up <tamil>நான் அத பண்ணல நான் இத பண்ணல நான் வந்து ஒரு:naan atha pannala naan itha pannala naan vanthu oru</tamil> waste <tamil>நான் வந்து ஒரு இது அது:naan vanthu oru ithu athu</tamil> and it's not productive at all people think it's productive but it's actually not


at the same time of course there's another extreme lah you know when you too humorous you become oh everything is okay everything is okay so, that's another limit that you don't want to go there again it's about finding the middle ground, and it's when you're when you can laugh at yourself your mind naturally becomes more fluid and not stiff like a rock


if we want to be, really true to ourselves, and I mean true to who we truly are meaning the parts that, are the parts of ourselves and we don't even know that exists and to become who you really are


do you know the whole of, finding a balance and you know finding a middle ground it's actually quite, it's quite dumb because, it's a fact that people who have achieved extraordinary success in any field whether it's spirituality sports


you know business chess boxing, I mean whatever you wanna call it they've all had this very obsessive, kind of focus, and you know sometimes when you talk about that kind of success people would like to bring up about oh you know buddha was you know he didn't have any


passion he was just very chill and you know you always uh no, I mean to take someone like buddha who was born into, you know kingdom and who was a noble, uh child for him to live is in a world and all that to go out in search of the so call that you know he was


he was didn't really have an idea but he was just out to search or it takes a, quite an extreme level of intensity to, to you know persevere with it and to, to basically put your life on the stake for what you believe in you know and this this


theme is, and again you you can go look up anyone doesn't matter who it is it can be Vivekanandar can be #abdul kalam# can be mike tyson can be


to be frank I'm just going to put it bluntly even the, the the local drug dealer, because, it takes a certain amount of obsession to be successful anything but of course is your success contributing to people's lives or taking away is another thing but it just talks about you know how the oh you need to have a balance you need to have this you need to have that sometimes it's not


always, sometimes it's quite unrealistic so at the end of the day I would say it's you you just have to, find, ya I'd say finding who you really are is the purpose of life actually coming out coming back to the first question


you know because


, so, again I will just like to add this ah


it doesn't matter if you don't pay us, because, in the one hour <tamil>பேசுற:pesura</tamil> the spiritual insights that we got, it's actually been quite, powerful you know and so, thank you you know, and thank all of you all for


giving this opportunity, to basically everyone out there lah because it's actually quite a powerful tool, and


we actually we we were just having his uh wedding talks earlier on lah


so <tamil>அதோட நம்ம:athoda namma</tamil> thank you <tamil>தெரிவிச்சிக்கிறோம்:therivichikkirom</tamil> thank you very much


okay can, so let's start with the okay I'll ask you the first prompting question okay so you can start talking lah, if you have any unusual superpowers what would it be


so just talk about it lah


for me , what would I say okay err firstly I will agree with what you said lah maybe there's a lot of as I grew older and I find myself being restrained by a lot of, inner inner questions you know worries so if I can somehow just stop worrying about a lot of stuff just going around like thoughts going around


around in my head and, just do what it is right like there's no thinking of what's gonna happen tomorrow what is yesterday what what people think about me and just do it that will be a very good special power and then


fancy ones what what would I like to have fancy ones , maybe manifesting things but I think now it is naturally not a superpower but I think people are kind of doing it in as different realms of spiritual and stuff that there is certain things in manifesting if you have


watch uh shows and stuff there's law of attractions and all those things a big hits the western world so, it is kind of a possibility lah, if you ask me so, ya that too for me now


what's the purpose of life according to me, there's one purpose in life I think, there is only things which we create for our we create our own purpose, it's what according to me lah like we create our own purpose


and we live up to the purpose because if you already see there's not much purpose like if you compare ourselves to everything else right like animals and stuff like the animals uh dog don't wake up and think what's my purpose today it just lives so for human since we are thinking creatures with nothing to anchor us down we will


not thrive so we have to create certain purpose for ourselves so that we can do something, useful with our lives and we can continue living lah uh it's a question of survival if we if we feel don't have any purpose, we might not be able to live another day


I mean like okay, not the big purpose but maybe they do have certain small purpose like like because I believe that a person without any okay maybe their purpose is just to eat food or it's something trivial lah like


they do have I think as a human I believe we do have to have find some purpose lah like, if you don't have purpose and then I think they will lead to mental issues I think it's a, something a human being needs to survive


oh okay I mean they do have a purpose I guess but, I like what I say like intellectually we creating a purpose right it's not therefore a dog or anything else because they just live they wake up they hunt


they do whatever they need to do but there's no uh there's no need for them to feel special or, like there's there's no that need of okay I'm born to do this I my purpose is to help all the other dogs they don't have to do it they just can live normally along with the nature but for human


we do need it like let's say I am born to do this I'm born to do that if there's no purpose except just eating and sleeping and I think, a human being can't go on long enough lah because, many people now who are what they are happy about or what they celebrate or what they call as success is their education


or they being a doctor their occupation has become the label if you take the occupation of the person, they wouldn't know who are they and, without that I think, I feel the entire humanity to go down, now with COVID itself like a lot of people are losing job and


more than financial crisis has started being identity crisis and many people don't know what's happening lah, they don't know what to call themselves now, and a lot of them because of this identity crisis is used to be managers in banks and now drop down to become cleaners and because of their identity crisis a lot of them are going through mental struggles so that's about the purpose talking about lah like


something which we created for ourselves to sustain ourselves, we can't just live by it takes another level of awareness, without that err I think normal human beings we need to give ourselves something, to stay by and to follow


(mmhmm)


more than learning what I should do I've learnt what I shouldn't do


from you lah because uh you are a very angry person, so I've learnt not to be angry, so <tamil>அத கத்துகிட்டேன்:atha kathukittaen</tamil> so from my brother , I would say uh, you were always young you kind of spoiled brat so I'll ask him to wake the hell up


because this could be happening to you in the next moment as well, to my mother I'll be like I'll just tell sorry lah because, I couldn't be with her for another longer period of time like couldn't support her on dying or so


that's I'll be sorry for her lah because, err, I'm someone who, be supporting her, beside like one of the supporting pillars so be sorry for that lah but I will be like, promise her that


things will be better, hopefully things will be better and, so those are the three last things I'll say lah


that one I don't know lah <tamil>உன் கையில்:un kaiyil</tamil>


because I I cannot choose when I want to die but I can choose to live today, that is something I think that's something empowering lah, I mean there are people who can choose to die that's a different spiritual whole thing but as a normal person I don't know when that is that's coming to me


so, but I know I'm living now so I can choose to live better


, but


when the ducks


okay nice sharing but I think let's move on to another topic I think we have been spending too much time on this topic already lah so we move on to another interesting question I have here is what labels do you think you have been given by society


so the society we staying here in singapore what is the labels you have gotten lah like, good can be praises or it can be also things people to mock you to disturb you to bully you, so let's let's go into the I think it's one of our favourite topics we normally discuss like about labels so you go first on the labels


without label to them you know


so , so thank you for sharing with your enlightening experience ah it was quite enlightening I think we uh for the people who are listening to this recording so they will shook their world would be shook as well so, let me share my take on this lah ah my my take on what is this is about


so for a start <tamil>நான் மகான் அல்ல:naan magaan alla</tamil> okay I am not a sane so I have been going around labeling people also lah but now as time lah going pass and like, the more I'm travelling the spiritual journey, spiritual journey so I've realised


I am still labeling people I'm still guilty about it but I'm more conscious of trying to reduce it lah, I tried to end ya like what Raj my friend just now said without labelling your brain actually go Siao lah


!huh! without labeling you you just cannot see as it is lah if you can see as it is that means you have become buddha, that's that's the idea of enlightenment lah where you can, take inclusiveness but because now the human mind or mind is always about


putting the uh, putting the boundaries so and part of the making boundaries is the labels lah but, so I've understood that


if really cannot <tamil>இருக்க வேண்டிய இடத்துல:irukka vendiya idathula</tamil> certain labels let it be, because as a humanity <tamil>நம்ம வந்து:namma vanthu</tamil> friends <tamil>ரொம்ப கஷ்டமா இருக்கும்ல:romba kashtamaa irukumla</tamil> okay certain things you like you want certain boundaries this is animal this is human go ahead but


within the humanity race itself or within a, or even okay race maybe you wanna say differences okay whatever <tamil>வச்சுக்குங்க:vachukunga</tamil> but I think when it comes down to a single race and then there's a lot of labels of you know <tamil>இவன்:ivan</tamil> christian <tamil>இவன்:ivan</tamil> hindu <tamil>இவன்:ivan</tamil> muslim even or even if you go to india <tamil>இவன் இந்த ஜாதி அந்த ஜாதி:ivan intha jaathi antha jaathi</tamil> like why


so by calling it oh like one this fellow muslim lah, okay the whatever he believes is different but at the end of the day he's a <tamil>தமிழன்:tamilan</tamil> so err


so I think that's where it, where labels get too far when within your own community you want to separate and segregate or within humans itself like racism okay if you want to biologically the fellow can be blind I can be indian you can be malay biologically or whatever the culture you believe in lah


but, why must we label and, the label shouldn't because us to, divert our attentions and fight like unnecessary fights like labeling shouldn't because unnecessary fight I think, the main negative point of labeling is causing a lot of fights and wars and if you see every war which is happening in the world is because of labels like


one fellow believes in a certain religion and, other people are not and this fellow is trying to convert other people then <tamil>ஏன் ஏன் இந்த தேவை இல்லாத விஷயம்:yaen yaen intha thevai illaatha vishayam</tamil> lah, labelling <tamil>ஓட நான் என்ன சொல்ல வேறென்னா:oda naan enna solla veraennaa</tamil> classification it's it's a must for the brain for the human brain you you wanna classify classify and just move on but we shouldn't label and just talk about stuff and like and something in singapore lah okay


labelling <tamil>சொல்ல வந்த:solla vantha</tamil> like, what I'd feel singapore is like a first world country which behaves like a third world people lah sadly that's what's happening lah <tamil>ஏன்னு பாக்க போனா:yaennu paakka ponaa</tamil> maybe it's just made up of all the citizens from the third world countries now lah which is growing up I'm not talking bad about india china or anything but I think maybe we still are living with that culture


so I think, something we have to work with like where I'm coming to it's uh there is this homosexuality in all those stuff like, why lah like I even india now I'm I I don't know about china lah but india they already approved the will for homosexuality but singapore still illegal you know but we first world country you know


still got all this homosexuality english, and some more singapore we a lot of people watch english movie you know english movie english movie every scene got one every movie got one homosexuality scene I think by now you should have been like


season for the thing right, like should be normal right indian people don't watch indian people watch tamil movie you know tamil movie you know got a lot dramas and stuff but don't don't have anything about homosexuality but people there also starting to accept already but in singapore we still cannot accept, even our own brother or our own sister or our own whatever we still need to label


when are we gonna be accepting like let them be lah like why must give them like especially not gay especially transgender lah why must give them okay lah the whatever they want to do or whatever they believe their lady of belief is let them be lah why must give them like the like the disgusting look <tamil>பாப்போம்லா கொண்டாங்களா:paapomla kondaangalaa</tamil> like


I mean what do you gain by calling them that's the that's my question what do you gain like, I mean the only possible thing maybe they hear it they feel bad lah so you going to feel happy that they feel bad, like that's I feel that's very sadistic lah


label people and throw them into certain portions and just think that is that lah I mean like you can classify things but, finishing in the world right you must know everything has a diversity so okay maybe this fellow is boring lah okay, but again must ask yourself the question


what is <tamil>இவன் என்ன வேற என்ன:ivan enna vera enna</tamil> that question will will see you that individual as a different person, that is my point of view lah this label thing so I think we have gone round and round on the label thing too much already let's go to the next question


err , , what is the one thing that you wish was free


neglecting the two


okay nice sharing by Raj okay so <tamil>நான் வந்து இப்ப என்னோட இத சொல்லனும்:naan vanthu ippa ennoda itha sollanum</tamil> right so uh about give something


what is available free lah, err, I don't know who said this but I think some, prominent head of india said this lah like, where education's supposed to be given free lah, so that <tamil>ஏனா:yaenaa</tamil> uh I think someone I really don't know who said it but I think #abdul kalam# ah is it okay #abdul kalam# said like education need to be given free lah because he he believe that that's the way out of poverty and I think


ya now it is a must lah <tamil>ஏனா அந்த காலத்துல:yaenaa antha kaalathula</tamil> he said but I don't know how long ago, education maybe was a means to being able to make money and people still can go around lah but now in this to this computer age right without education I think the fellow who is maybe in utopia or some rural part of india if you don't know computer I think forever lah he need to just get stuck there


and beg for food forever lah because now uh all those uh labour work right at least last time lah they all can never study can go and do some <tamil>கூலி வேல:kooli vela</tamil> and make money but I think machine come over already no need coolies already so, we not gonna give education for free and other countries lah like countries around the world they gonna make okay I mean frankly speaking education is now the biggest business lah one of the biggest industrial of business


so if, I believe business people can carry on doing business lah but, the business <tamil>பண்றதுலையும் ஒரு நல்ல மனசு இருந்தா வந்து:pandrathulaiyum oru nalla manasu irunthaa vanthu</tamil> can start giving education free for people around the world just a minimal education to get people going by in life right


I think we'll be able to empower people to get all the other stuff hopefully lah like they can look after the food water what not they can pay for that thing but I think <tamil>அந்த மாரி பாக்க போனா:antha maari paaka ponaa</tamil> education is supposed to be given free lah, in singapore I think they're doing a good job in that lah at least until secondary school the fellow can


starting secondary school you have a basic idea I think think now also polytechnic or tertiary education so they do have lah, that's why I think so but university is different lah that one you pay for yourself I think when you gonna study in university you are strong enough and you are capable enough to find a job and then go and study but


I think in that way singapore is doing a good job, , the neighbouring countries also or the countries around the world lah all this poverty countries they need to do like what my friend say lah they spending a lot of money on war and stuff like again go back to the labelling so cut the crap of doing all the labelling and want to fight because the go issue


okay if you wanna fight you fight lah whatever lah okay I cannot say you don't fight lah but spend a bit of money on people also lah I mean you're in people put you in power for a reason what, so I that's what I feel lah like so, for the people lah but people again


don't want do it so I wish I wish really that education can be given to everyone for free lah, because if you see go to india right like, a lot of people won't like they look at educated people in different level like like there are people who doesn't even know how to spell their name


many parts of india there are people still do not know how to spell their name do not know how to sign and a lot of big big firms are cheating people because of that, so I think with education a lot of problem will solve lah


so you want to look into another question okay let me ask another question, how do you think humans will become extinct, the bangladeshi girl read somewhere good lah


, , okay so to add on to what my friend Raj is sharing now okay


tamil leh <tamil>ஒரு பழமொழி இருக்கு தன் கைதான் தனக்கு உதவின்னு நம்ம அழுஞ்சு போறதுக்கு:oru palamoli irukku thaan kaithaan thanukku uthavinnu namma alunju porathukku</tamil> human exist <tamil>ஆகறதுக்கு:aagarathukku</tamil> we don't need any other disaster lah okay we don't need god or any other interventions to come in we are enough to kill ourselves okay corona how the corona come in


it's a it's a potentially something we never have taken action earlier we could have been extinct by now and then this recording wouldn't be happening, so <tamil>பாக்க போனா:paaka pona</tamil> I don't how true lah but this was the, things which was spreading around lah see apparently some fellow in china eat bat


okay if let's say just let's say if it's true lah who who started the corona then let's just say this is true who ask you to go out of everything else you eat why must go to the cave get a bat and eat, you don't have anything else to eat meh got vegetables to eat, just okay lah you want to eat something got chicken got goat got beef standard things to eat out of everything must go and eat bat ah


I still don't understand if it is true lah don't come back and say no lah that's not the case some other reason corona come out lah I don't know but this is what I heard this is the rumour spreading so let's just put the rumours is true, so that's the thing lah like we start our own problem on and okay that's a if situation just let's take a more real situation lah !huh!


which is happening around the world like, uh and, it is starting not after you grew up you know it starts from a very young age, it starts from a very young age I've encounter it before that we've been thought lah generation after generation where this toxic thought has been thought


if you go to school right, let's say when the exam comes and the exam results comes out right how my father ask, maximum level mark, at that time okay I'm a brilliant kid but I didn't study well so normally I will get like fifty or something I'd say fifty the next question will be right


class lah <tamil>யாரு:yaaru</tamil> first, but I don't think that's needed because his believe right okay maybe he wanted me to go hang around with the successful people so that I become successful lah but, in the back of the mind right it's always who is the first who's the first


if everybody want to be the first right, who will nobody can be second, so it's I don't think we need this hierarchy we everybody are individually unique and talented and and I think we should just explore that, instead of this competing who's the first who's second who's last and I think that's the main reason for all these distruction lah like one company starts another company then they compete compete compete and


in the in their own competition for making money and they want to be king they destroying the entire world lah, so


we need to start teaching our younger generation to do, be more conscious to be more selfless, because I think selfless <tamil>சொல்ல போனா:solla ponaa</tamil> I think our selfishness is going to be our self harm


so I think the only medicine or the only uh what's the tamil for it, so I think we need to be selfless and see what are we doing right what are we doing wrong


and whatever unnecessary stuff lah !huh! like don't need too much of flashy stuff, try to be a bit more happy with whatever we have lah like actually we can be happy without all those external stuff is just our damn mind we thinking after we get this we will happy but


you can even explain by yourself lah okay you say this Deepavali or this chinese new year I buy the dress I'll be happier ah you wear that dress ten minutes later you won't be happy already you find for the next big thing so, finally for this material stuff right it's never gonna be your results of happiness lah that one I've none I mean I didn't really think


I think to a certain extent, so I think you wanna share something like that lah okay


, , , , , okay okay pause pause pause


okay nice recording so far okay


labelling labels eh labels we talked already about now is what ah, we're looking into extinction so okay so we have discuss a lot about being selfless being all those extinct and stuff so


the wrap up thing is we are going to make ourself extinct lah okay if we never become selfless right we wanna put labels on people and then, oh


all those stuff, so when are we gonna wake up so that's another question we need to answer when is the time you going to start waking up and


so I think we have to start asking <tamil>நான் யார்:naan yaar</tamil> to ourselves, and really explore ourself lah and I think down the way of exploring ourselves we also becomes selfless get rid of all the compulsions and


probably will make a beautiful world lah, because as the years go by I think the world is getting suckier and suckier and, and a lot of people are blaming that the world is like shit so I have to be like shit and, so when is the end point


if if you gonna blame the way the world is a ruthless place the world is a shitty place, so if you keep blaming the world right of the world also, until another next next new generation of the world like all those let's say all those mean people died already let's say your uncle's age or your <tamil>தாத்தா:thaatha</tamil> age all those people let's say are mean people


and let's say all this mean people die already right so you're a new generation of person right, so if you start thinking differently won't we be able to make a new world a world which is not cruel, why all the time must like, blame the world say the blame very cruel the world very cruel then


you need to, fight you need to like do all this stuff lah, no need what, if we can start becoming selfless, and we we are the generation I think <tamil>நம்ம:namma</tamil> our age okay both of us are twenty three years so I think people our age group right if can change


and become selfless right I think down the road next fifty years this world all over the world will become a beautiful world and a more conscious world lah that's my thought okay we have two more minutes to wrap up Raj,


his amath what I'm quite worried today also osmas came


tuition, <tamil>கொஞ்சோ அப்பப்ப சத்தோ போட்டுட்டு இருந்துச்சு அவங்கிட்ட:konjo appapa satho potutu irunthuchu avngitta</tamil> err like you know boys err , loud ah <tamil>பேசுர மாரி:pesura mari</tamil> I don't know why I don't know whether he never do his work


ayesha' main problem is laziness he is quite lazy he, wakes up very late, Asmath <tamil>வந்தாலு வந்து:vanthalu vanthu</tamil> err sometimes ah <tamil>அது வர நேரத்துக்குதா வந்து:athu vara nerathukutha vanthu</tamil> you know he actually wakes up


it's it's very difficult for me to I I today morning also I actually, shouted at him a few times


err <tamil>ஆமா வெளில போனோனா:aama velila ponona</tamil> is very good, want have breakfast he want to see his friends all he is very punctual when it comes to studies ah I don't think so


but that that that's very bad attitude what


ya CCA teacher also I don't know lah how last week, never wake up early


(mmhmm), she never go one day what lazy


the last one ah before I mean the last november one I mean the just before


I don't know I feel that she doesn't like her CCA


ya like without choice, right


ah the children wearing shorts but inside got wear tights pant tight longer pants can use, CCA fair, I think it's all according to


but now I think she don't like


, don't know lah, wanted then


I also don't know I'm supposed to come right or is it only one parent can go


, I don't know what she is impressed about


ya, I don't know I never see her ya exactly she's not interested she is least bothered


that was excitement new instrument this and that but now, ,


ya, I was in girl guides, four or four or five ya


NCC land land ayesha one is what ah air right, , so how


ayesha like don't know lah N level


but if let's say if he cannot get the the the entry for the poly or ITE ah he has to go take O level again


he is forgetful lah, he is very much forgetful, very, I also don't know lah how


[orh] the tourism one is it ya ya I did


cause err ayesha arshin err, younger than eighteen what, no they won't get ya kids eighteen and above will get


like roshan lah roshan is eighteen right so he will get, ron and shan won't get they won't get, eighteen and above, (hmm)


they will not be qualified for the hundred dollars voucher, ya only parents will get hundred hundred if let's say both of them are eighteen ah <tamil>அவங்களுக்கு நூறு வெள்ளி அவனுக்கு நூறு வெள்ளி கெடைக்கு:avangaluku nooru velli avanuku nooru velli kedaiku</tamil> lah


three people will get your brother in law sister and roshan, cause roshan is above eighteen what


I think most of the hotels, staycations, err USS sentosa, cable car, zoo same place lah where singapore what they have nothing much what


, I mean is a country for tourists local, , zoo eh you think our kids want to go zoo you think they want to go to a bird park no first december


USS one person about sixty plus already, ah


no use lah one USS trip finish already, anything nothing else lah, ya lah, more means like what where you wanna go where you wanna go


, that's the that's the most expensive what


I mean if you want to really go to the good hotels lah you can get those hotels at the


beach road all these are cheap but, first december onwards lah those, those who are certified something ah cleared of those err, but one class criteria can but err <tamil>நமக்கு வந்து:namaku vanthu</tamil> hotels stay <tamil>பண்ரதுக்கு ஒன்னு இருக்குது அதோட:panrathuku onnu irukuthu athoda</tamil> if you wanna


good, buffet breakfast you need to see which is the halal, kitchen ah we got a lot of things to see ya if not very difficult, Holalaley sentosa don't say lah sentosa one night five hundred plus already


, switch kitchen tell you like what err the the hyatt that one also halal ya can stay but but is one night three hundred plus already


like you say we cannot we can only just stay there and somemore is three hundred plus for two people, this two this two considered adults already what no more kids, ya expensive


ah ya


ya, of course lah but still is expensive you see first you think the low income and middle income will go this kind of, stays I don't think so


and somemore if people got let's say more younger children and only both parents are above eighteen, they only get two hundred for maybe got three or four kids, like uh unroll unroll buy, , what


difficult, not enough won't be enough


, ya


Sentosa <tamil>வந்து:vanthu</tamil> is very expensive what, lucky boss it it will be more expensive isn't it


wait, aquarius hotel eh but they have this


we can we can buy vouchers from klook also it's their, what do you call, authorised err partner or something like that, what catch


you see this one grand hyatt singapore staycation ah is two hundred dollars for one night, and then what they give is one night stay, for de deluxe room, grand hyatt if you want with breakfast is two hundred and sixty dollars


for two pax, ya so is two sixty two sixty five twenty, ya


, then


hyatt lah scotts road, straits kitchen because no nothing lah but we got we need to see where got halal kitchen what, so most of the halal kitchens are also quite expensive


grand hyatt if not we can, see at landmark lah golden landmark ya ya lah that's the thing


you see ah in this klook ah you see they got, two experience for #kampung bongkok#, fifty dollars fifty dollars


, ah actually another thing we can bring them also a bit expensive is err bungee jump, the mega zip


bungee jump we never go what, mega zip how about that, no mega zip whole level we never go, that was not bungee jump that


the flying thing, ya they the giant swing they call it the giant swing, ya


they have mega zip also another one, the same place, ya, what is that


what


downstairs there's the forest err sea or I don't know what, somewhere there lah , ya that one they can go in fact essan essan's age also ah we can hug the child and then go together


ya, ya, which one


sky ride ah what I don't know, the the the gold kart <tamil>மாரி:mari</tamil> ya lah


also in sentosa that one, , ya


if got you can use that to, the voucher for cruise also the cruise but cruise is expensive lah one person two five nine, two nights


have lah but I don't know, need a lot of restrictions lah need to do all the swab tests before that the rapid test, the rapid COVID test I think ya ya


ya lah, yes yes you have to, to ensure the safety on the


on board lah scarcely anything happen then how the cruise don't know then stay there ah


ya I think seventy forty eight hour I don't know how many hours lah, before the departure, why why shocked


is it


again but you said it wasn't pain what, oh you lie


<tamil>இல்ல செலபேருக்கு வந்து வலிக்கு ஏனா வந்து:illa selaperuku vanthu valiku yena vanthu</tamil> they sometimes they don't do it properly,


I think still okay lah I think is the rapid test I don't know how is the rapid test done


ya, four days later, this one is rapid test it will be fast lah


I think is immediate, ah <tamil>சொல்லிடுவாங்கனு நெனைகுர தெரில என்னனு:solliduvanganu nenaikura therila ennanu</tamil> rapid test


no lah I think it's okay lah, Nea typically typically within thirty minutes, quite fast what


ah


somemore where, ya lah


they got island cruise also ferry ticket between st john's island, lazarus island, ya


[orh] I forgot, oh ya ya I forgot


sky ah the the thing go round ferris ferris wheel ah what's that called find the halo one is it the ya we went there when arshin was just like that remember what she did