!huh! I think two is on the verge already you know you are you are playing on the edge with the #lao sai# god !huh!, that that's not right man no you not supposed to #lao sai#


no it's not okay, especially if you are working ya exactly ya <mandarin>一:yi</mandarin> <mandarin>一条:yi tiao</mandarin> one bunch are usually how many how many rounds, nine eight banana oh


oh oh, okay also can


, ya actually now I thinking hor, should I bring my breakfast like <mandarin>涂面包:tu mian bao</mandarin> all those like eat before work start


but I can leave house earlier or should I eat at home then can go there, ya there is a pantry lah before work starts you know sometime I reach like ten minute early


Pong right you just sit at home then sit the sofa eat the bread then you know that you need to leave house like so #gao wei#, oh ya ya ya that day I miss the bus


the bus ah go pass me leh then the next one eleven minute !wah! I really almost late because of that you know okay lor okay lor, !huh!


then <mandarin>几时:ji shi</mandarin> [orh] ya ya, that's true, right it just a bit don't make sense for any job to sit at home and eat your breakfast even if you don't take your time it just feels weird


it feel it feel like everytime raking up a debt a time debt ya ya okay lor, okay then <mandarin>就这样:jiu zhe yang</mandarin> I just bring over anyway there my my


reach the bus stop already right there is a old #chang kee# there's a mobile old #chang kee# ya but it's it's money lah I buy two fishball is three dollar no as in like like two sticks of fishball ya ya not <mandarin>两粒:liang li</mandarin> ya ya


ya which is a lot eh actually is a lot so now I just buy one only ah eh same then the other three is fishball is it oh Sian, ya I eat the fish fillet also ya that's true


so I thinking do I even need to prepare my own bread or should I just eat the old #chang kee#, okay nevermind I should just eat in case like <mandarin>我瘦去:wo shou qu</mandarin> then <mandarin>不够:bu gou</mandarin> energy I think later very tired one leh if I never eat enough okay never mind you just in case like was so cheap you know the of energy edit the talk very tired already leh haven't eat enough


oh ya !wah! all these decisions man, no no no, old #chang kee# old #chang kee# usually my friend reach first then he help me buy then I paynow so I don't need press


ya okay I think old #chang kee# alone is not enough for breakfast lah, okay ah then <mandarin>我就带我面包:wo jiu dai wo mian bao</mandarin> lor then pantry got coffee also what just nice then I don't need to !wah! the first few day I wake up I still need make coffee leh, no okay I I think I will still continue the coffee at home plan then I will eat like one or two of the lotus biscuit because I think I leave house stomach right


will feel a bit like <mandarin>晕:yun</mandarin> ya ya so that coffee and the biscuit will like give me some sugar ya, why so specific lexus biscuit


oh the peanut butter one ah ya, for work, ya okay lah maybe I'll eat I'll buy a <mandarin>叉烧包:cha shao bao</mandarin> from lunch to eat for tea break


ya ya, is all about the balance, !hannor!


you always eating meh <mandarin>你那里:ni na li</mandarin> keep on eating,


(mmhmm), oh ya ya oh my gosh ya


(mmhmm), (uh huh) okay


ah , (mmhmm) you really you really feel like you become fatter ah !wah! I can't really tell sia because you are always fat


okay, ya, okay ah oh you don't mind oh


okay ah , okay okay lah then run lah but just run slowly lor no rush ah at least you run then you try to make it a habit


the what's that adidas one ya


ah ah ya


[orh], , okay never mind you just start slow first you see if you are able to which I hope you do lah you try to make this a routine if you can make it a routine already right then you can buy a proper running shoe ah rather than you buy now then you give up


because I know you hate running I also hate running !huh! what you mean ya, but I stop also long so I when I went again I like really damn Cui but slowly can build up one so your first few run confirm very Cui so don't need to go and be like disappointed or what just just slowly lor but everyday you do lah every alternate day you see you confirm can improve one


what ah oh my god he tell me he run already he look behind you are gone


, ah


oh my god oh my god


ya good good lah you believe in yourself , ah oh shit okay (uh huh)


how come ah okay [orh] okay


because got no no shelter one right that path no tree also no the insect then then don't stop, ah


okay oh my god then total how far two point four !wah! sound like very far like that oh


okay ah ya , ah wait some other somebody giving out the ice cream stick or what oh


[orh] that's why I'm thinking like who will even like volunteer for ice cream stick duty is his punishment ah okay okay oh


(mmhmm), !wah! means after that you don't need do anything ah wait if if if not do what sia like if you never clear


[orh] is do running oh my god okay oh okay lah same lah army also like that ya, just play some ball games basketball captain ball ya or like the but I don't play the ball lah because I suck at the ball stuff so I will do like the gym


oh dodge ball ya but you you need to find people that actually want to play dodge ball also ah


(mmhmm) okay oh ah oh !wah!


that's nice, then what's the difference between poison ball and dodge ball ah same shit right poison ball is singapore version, same what right if the the poison ball hit you then you die what is it unless you catch it is it I can't remember leh ya poison ball also what right can't remember


poison ball this yellow bouncy ball, oh virus lah ya why oh ya okay then I don't like also because I very tall ya the ya ya is is like that one eh really got people fall one ah


that's true ah (mmhmm), ya the fear right that's why I think is only fun if you get to like for me I tall I like to just jump and deflect the ball ah but I always feel bad for the person standing there ah so easy fall down one !hais!


ah ya but but normally don't have what, then some more the the chair you just put there then if you move a bit then the chair also will like move one then like !whoa!


is it, ya ah ah


oh <mandarin>脸会:lian hui</mandarin> ah especially <mandarin>那些比较比较硬的:nei xie bi jiao bi jiao ying de</mandarin> like like err err basketball those kind !wah! I think I will try to hit it away ah but by right not supposed to hit it away sometime the ball hitting coming towards me then I just hit away then everybody all my team will be like eh why you smack for what ya because it


not supposed to smack it away lah ya !hannor!, ya


not supposed to catch it ya I think poison ball once you get hit you are out already ya


actually the virus catching still got one more right the what ice and water gosh oh ya gosh the what what's that


(uh huh)


!wah! then like that confirm Kena caught one what really meh but someone, if line catching one one guy coming towards you then one coming towards you from the other line line then you will get stuck already what


ah eh wait shit I suddenly forget normal catching you catch someone then you transfer the the [orh] oh


oh ya ya oh is it oh ya ya ah


okay probably you cannot jump over to the other line


(hmm)


oh, are you serious no okay ya okay okay


(uh huh), oh my god is it made of rifle or what,


no but but how you supposed to play the game again, oh my god, ah oh [ho] [ho]


oh my god crazy sia imagine the teacher see one one girl making such a huge gun what the hell !wow!, I know there's a type of cross or something right ya ya I think last time you go check online right confirm have one secondary school have already what sec two have what


serious !wah! ya what what's habbo I don't know what's that


is a what don't know got what the hotel tycoon kind ah oh wait habbo H A B O okay okay okay I heard of it before !huh! what I don't know I can't remember but it just I just heard of it but I never played I never played


[orh] last time I buy a lot of cherry credit you know what you know what's I play my mouse hunt is for facebook game one you know you know mouse hunt, the facebook game <mandarin>抓那个老鼠:zhua na ge lao shu</mandarin> oh shit ya I was playing mouse hunt lah then I every time go buy the cherry credit because can exchange for the in game gold then I like I the cherry credits like for example you for example hundred gold it cost maybe ten dollars worth of cherry credit


then it's like it's like those the more you buy the cheaper so like, the hundred gold for ten dollar but then maybe a two hundred gold is only like eighteen dollar like that, so I one shot I accumulate all my #ang pow# quite big then I buy like quite risky lah back then I buy like almost a one hundred dollar worth then I go and I go and find people in school then I go and sell them then luckily I manage to to like claim back all my hundred ya ya imagine no one want to buy right then I I Siao Liao already


profit, ya, no no all of them that's why I cannot let them know I just say I transfer you, ya I I I charge them like the same rate lor like maybe maybe back then I already got like like one million for like maybe only I don't know eighty dollars something like that lah then I will just either sell them the proper market rate or like some what like inflate habit


ya, so risky because later nobody want to buy then !wah!, [orh]


ya lah I mean is fun and stuff lah just that it is is not exposed to me in my culture, ya ya correct correct they are arts one then like even back then I interested all these like all the other stuff ah err coding all that kind of stuff sec two sec one


I start I start I start hack I was the guy in class teach everybody how to hack and jail break their phone one I can't remember also leh ya, oh, I was like the IT guy even until now recently right


[orh] is my is teacher say I cannot how to on then the whole class will like eh ask him ask him then I like no no no no, !hais! ya


poly lor ya ya, because I went to check some more everybody in my school going JC so I thought it was normal then I go and check eh !walao! JC is like a enhanced secondary school again going to learn the same stuff right ya like this type of uniform thing lah no to me I okay lah not so not so because army also need to wear uniform


ya ya it's the same thing you know it's not really something you enjoy right then I I went to read up I go the open house then I see !wah! I get to learn stuff that I'm already trying to do it on my own in secondary school right then !wah! okay lah let's do it, ya, ya lor ya lor


no is not called red camp lah, okay but I oh my god I was supposed to go I sign up but then I fell when I was cycling and then I broke my arm ya this one I think I really not fated to go camp one leh see my poly then my then my also I Kena all because of sickness or injury


, ya oh ya , ah


no my CCA don't do the red camp, open house talking leadership volunteer, then training ah, profile the student then recommend a course that kind of thing no


!wah! how I know, but dean list is like must be like very pro, wait actually how to know if I on the dean list I will confirm know one is it


!wah! I don't think so leh I cannot remember leh, maybe ah, I don't know lah, no but not not everyone also leh not everyone my class only got like five of us got the got score only only or maybe ya five


ya I don't know you need to know, maybe there's there's those the thing about my field is that I told you already got those super crazy people right can score full marks that kind one you know like those the the, the ya those kind of ya the people I'm talking about now they confirm come from also what ya not JC one these kind of these kind of power is a from one so they back then already doing these kind of shit so they probably perfect four ah not even kidding


ya, !wah! quite a lot, three or four five, err ya have


can't err can't remember ah, is it, oh okay lah but I never remember lah I mean nothing to do with me, oh is <mandarin>小小的:xiao xiao de</mandarin> right !wah! that's quite sick eh oh ya that's the one right that went overseas to do something


ah oh is she from your class, you only got one class right


three class !wah! that's quite big already leh ah,


that's very big leh that's like my cohort, that's very big already leh, oh, close down right ya


oh, ya


, yup, now is compulsory already !wah! like that quite sayang ah


ya, oh, damn !walao!


, is it the SAP thing oh


the blue blue one right, oh because you never take anyway, !wah! did you hear the pop, !wah!


oh ya I also can smell it, !wah! too bad you cannot eat beef, she eye ball ah


I honestly don't know, ya, he eat lah, he chill one


or maybe he don't purposely go eat lah, but if is the only thing available then have to eat lah


(mmhmm), , your whole family don't eat beef right, !wow!


ah, !wah!, !wah!


oh so no no chance to go and, like eat it ah, what the heck


(mmhmm) , (mmhmm), , !wah! cannot cannot mutton I cannot wait so you can eat mutton but you can eat beef oh my gosh


ah, !wah! that's that's so weird ya


[orh] oxtail soup eh mutton curry ah okay I I think curry okay because curry supposed to be <mandarin>重重味:chong chong wei</mandarin> one mah


(mmhmm)


okay we can talk now, what do you want to talk about like what like what happened just now


I mean okay I forgot the bag, I did forget that the I did forget the bag there lah, I didn't know that your specs were there, okay you got angry first


I said I didn't see it okay


because you were so angry over nothing, because you were angry first


(ugh), it's your specs what you're the one who left it there okay I


K fine


first of all you didn't tell us exactly what it was, what did you tell Kor


you can't just say will know one but like, ya cause when we went there I didn't even know the bag existed


look we both saw it we just didn't know what it was why we brought it there my god


okay fine, it's not logical if you say it like that


no it's just I didn't think about the bag when I left it there, when we left it there


fine, you were the one who angry over nothing


it's not always okay, I never said


I never, you just didn't give clear instructions ah


ya, oh my god


cause uh okay Kor was the one who put it there I didn't even know we had that


okay I knew we had the bag but I didn't know what it was for I didn't know why we brought it, we just go there eat dinner lah, I also forgot


you asking that now


eh we also have to remember to take the mail for Pa and like,


it's a regular thing what, but obviously I will also remember right


obviously if you repeat this same cycle then you remember lah, why then it becomes like I'm your I don't know what your mailman ah


oh my god, might as well just !aiya! don't care about mail lah okay


I'm not picky it's !walao! you're like asking someone to do your things,


no it's like <mandarin>好像:hao xiang</mandarin> slave <mandarin>那样:na yang</mandarin> eh ya, no but it's irritating


sure simple


ya because you get mad for what


in my opinion right you never wear your specs for like what more than two months already


what the heck you don't expect us to to like to see your specs and be like oh why is that specs there


it's like it's like, it's like the same way as you pass us the bag of unknown things, and then you'll tell us just pass and we're like what is it you don't need to know


that's the that's the same, as telling us you don't need to know


why, just give us a brief explanation right, my god


, then <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> pass <mandarin>给我完我:gei wo wan wo</mandarin> pass <mandarin>给他我讲什么:gei ta wo jiang shen me</mandarin> <mandarin>这个是鹿茸:zhe ge shi lu rong</mandarin> the horn, oh my


they will also will ask what is it what cause they are oh my god, so what you want kids to pass help you pass stuff now is it


cause that's logic that's the most basic logical question


(ugh), uh whatever whatever I don't care


I don't know I don't care whose problem is it


then ya lah they talk lah


he told me he's planning to come back soon, no but it's a bit complicated, cause he trying to use the I don't know the what business


ya everything decided by government or something whatever


uh he's aiming for end july, aiming, ya


no that one is an issue that's already over, I don't know <mandarin>他又:ta you</mandarin> no


then <mandarin>我问他他还是叫:wo wen ta ta hai shi jiao</mandarin> <mandarin>不知道：bu zhi dao</mandarin> ah, everybody doesn't know


we have one hour


<mandarin>你气了:ni qi le</mandarin> oh my god okay I I've, <mandarin>我破坏不是你破坏:wo po huai bu shi ni po huai</mandarin> meh, okay you know what whatever you missed out a lot lah basically


food lah oh you know <mandarin>姑妈煮的:gu ma zhu de</mandarin> Okonomiyaki


ya <mandarin>我觉得:wo jue de</mandarin> it's actually good ah


everytime it's next time


me help, we can already move meh


[orh], see you don't even tell this to us you always say oh I'm just to inform us cannot is it


too late no like, like you you can say like oh I decided to like I don't know rent a storage room, ya <mandarin>我知道啊:wo zhi dao a</mandarin>


no you can just inform when the time comes


just now like when I don't know when when you actually do something you know you never tell us you tell us like, way way later like ten years later you're like oh actually I rented a storage room


fine five years


(ugh) I I don't know, only that time then you told us


, what I don't know


oh <mandarin>她已经走了：ta yi jing zou le</mandarin> by the time we went right she left me some clothes later I show you, it's like basically the clothes she that she doesn't want ah


Guni eh


K ah I picked out a few good ones and then err and then like


he's fine ah what do you mean !huh! <mandarin>真的:zhen de</mandarin> ah


does applying for house means that you're getting married, that fast


actually <mandarin>我记得我:wo ji de wo</mandarin> senior <mandarin>有讲过:wo jiang guo</mandarin> eh like they talked they had this okay like


really really intense discussion about


first then <mandarin>我就:wo jiu</mandarin> like down there <mandarin>懵懵懂懂我不知道什么是什么:meng meng dong dong wo bu zhi dao shen me shi shen me</mandarin> , ya


ah ya


, it's okay still get the house !huh! wait how how much


so so okay in the end the question goes back to this, BTO <mandarin>还是:hai shi</mandarin> married marriage


ya, stay stay <mandarin>各自的家:ge zi de jia</mandarin> , !aiya! I don't know


!aiya! okay okay so BTO first lah


wait is it like oh


!huh!, [orh] okay okay !walao! <mandarin>你你讲:ni ni jiang</mandarin> two choice <mandarin>我在想:wo zai xiang</mandarin> !huh!


as long as you're married or over thirty five ah, !walao! thirty five <mandarin>好老:hao lao</mandarin> eh


, ya , you can mentally not think that


ya !duh!, no they were just arguing about it then <mandarin>他们就问我们:ta men jiu wen wo men</mandarin> junior then <mandarin>我们:wo men</mandarin> junior


year three like at least twenty three Kor <mandarin>的岁:de sui</mandarin> lah


why, !huh!


god still need ballot


, !oho!, the the what kind of system is this


is it wait BTO is the, can't it be easier like


hotel like that hotel also need book what but hotel is way easier than BTO eh, ,


ya can't it can easy as that


like <mandarin>有人有人进去买:you ren you ren jin qu mai</mandarin> oh like you know I stay for one day then <mandarin>我不要:wo bu yao</mandarin> then <mandarin>就:jiu</mandarin> oh, okay it's on sale then no it should be as easy as that


but my dress is my asset also


but both are assets what


, donate lor you put it up on back on the on the like whatever like website


look at it now


and they say that the east is the best, ya <mandarin>很多人啊:hen duo ren a</mandarin> ya ya ya


like they they say best in everything lah like shopping centre, accessibility housing ya <mandarin>我很多朋友住在:wo hen duo peng you zhu zai</mandarin> east side mah, that's why they stay in hall what but


ya <mandarin>我不知:wo bu zhi</mandarin> I don't know how's price there lah but basically like I know their, that's why east is the best


ya the only thing that the east doesn't have is unis ah, and and like and like good probably


eh what's so good about a mature estate


now wet market also dying what


, cheap meh


I don't know <mandarin>我觉:wo jue</mandarin> okay like


okay it's true that some wet markets right their food is cheap and good so like ya lah for for example #toa payoh# ah but that doesn't mean that all mature estates got good, good wet markets what


Clementi


it's Meh, err


you can also check what, no <mandarin>我跟你讲我跟你讲:wo gen ni jiang wo gen ni jiang</mandarin> , it's thirty five minutes


, , really <mandarin>你每次讲:ni mei ci jiang</mandarin> finance already talk one hour Liao


yes I timed it in my head, but I looked at the clock <mandarin>每次:mei ci</mandarin> right you know especially when I have courses at night hor, then <mandarin>需要赶快走:xu yao gan kuai zou</mandarin> eh then then you know I I've been taking graphic design courses what


you know I had to take two lessons like back to back, oh my god, cause you paid for it


oh my !walao! eh


!walao! hundred question right, because right when okay you haven't been a student for a long time let me just tell you how it works


if you get less than fifty questions that's called an average test paper, for secondary school if you get more than a hundred questions means it's either it's definitely MCQ, and it's definitely bound to be very hard because they want to make your life hard and that is the way this goes that's why it's a hundred question


obviously


for fifty questions


you want hundred marks for fifty question <mandarin>一个：yi ge</mandarin> question <mandarin>多少：duo shao</mandarin> like two marks, ah then


when you take basic and you get an average so so score you think if you can do advanced you get a better score


no advanced means it's harder lah, what topic basic math calculation


like what ln log, linear, never taught us in school what


they never taught us in school, study econs doesn't mean they teach us the same thing as you are learning right now right, eh you know the econs I study in JC right don't even need calculation one eh everything's in english


they it's like memorisation like that there's like err, err what's your blah blah blah what's your like whatever whatever something coefficient blah blah blah, !walao! and then everything like <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> case by case basis


so right <mandarin>他:ta</mandarin> pass <mandarin>你一个:ni yi ge</mandarin> case singapore did this blah blah blah did this what do you think they should do, and that's JC level when you go to university level, it's when they will add calculation to to logic so


and then plus my calculation skills I can't even <mandarin>不能:bu neng</mandarin> this is why I can't take economics in uni


GPA, grade course module, what


<mandarin>我跟你讲:wo gen ni jiang</mandarin> , no


okay don't worry this one right I would not fault you because I also very blur when it came to this at first, when you enter uni you take a major a major, course no major course (ugh)


K there is minor right but err, not a lot of people would take minor there's major and minor course okay


within a course you have these things called modules AKA lessons, but we call them modules because like one module for example, got like twelve lesson ah we got twelve weeks of school then you for twelve lessons lah


then ya lah so I have we have three kinds of modules, one is core modules core modules right <mandarin>是你一定要:shi ni yi ding yao</mandarin> take <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> cause it's your major course major course right confirm <mandarin>要:yao</mandarin> take <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> core modules


everyone with a course has core modules then second one <mandarin>就是:jiu shi</mandarin> gerpe which is, general prescribed electives <mandarin>就是:jiu shi</mandarin> is is like <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> side


either one like for example A or B <mandarin>你一定要选一个:ni yi ding yao xuan yi ge</mandarin> but can choose, then lastly you have unrestricted electives in short we call them UE, K UE right <mandarin>很容易很容易:hen rong yi hen rong yi</mandarin> you remember right K UE is


any module from any course it doesn't have to be from your course, so for example <mandarin>我读:wo du</mandarin> communications right, but <mandarin>我我:wo wo</mandarin> like <mandarin>我要学:wo yao xue</mandarin> chemistry oh


a allocated number of UEs that we have to take each, err for for like our year lah basically, it's under languages so


you can there's, okay when you take minor they will


(ugh) <mandarin>很:hen</mandarin> complicated eh god they will take your, UEs all the UEs that you have right cause UE basically means any module, then <mandarin>他们就拿一些出来:ta men jiu na yi xie chu lai</mandarin> convert it to your minor


so convert right means that <mandarin>你这些:ni zhe xie</mandarin> UE hor, ya so in total you have the same number of modules


but you have a larger amount of core a larger amount of gerpe lesser UE


err we can always declare minor every year declare means that oh <mandarin>我要我要上这个:wo yao wo yao shang zhe ge</mandarin> and then


level one to level five, <mandarin>不是全部:bu shi quan bu</mandarin> in one go lah it's like throughout the four years ah


ya then, <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> poly <mandarin>也不是有:ye bu shi you</mandarin> like <mandarin>相似的东西:xiang si de dong xi</mandarin> meh


!huh! <mandarin>就是你们的:jiu shi ni men de</mandarin> course then <mandarin>就:jiu</mandarin> !walao! eh


then <mandarin>你不能:ni bu neng</mandarin> choose like maybe like, like side you know your


(ugh) old generation


I mean, [orh], eh choosing is also a problem okay, eh but choosing is better


cause you can actually like you know experience what your friends did like for example <mandarin>你说:ni shuo</mandarin> err actually like <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin>, then <mandarin>你不会想:ni bu hui xiang</mandarin> try <mandarin>一些画画的:yi xie hua hua de</mandarin> module meh


a bit is also good what experience, no you can like focus on one thing but like you it doesn't it doesn't hurt to


try new things


you always got something to talk about one


uh what do you want me to say, no like what do you like, do they really want your personal story


first of all nobody writes do do people actually write their personal stories in their cover letter


because I possess the skill and I have more experience than the young newbies


!aiya! <mandarin>我哪里知道我就是那种:wo na li zhi dao wo jiu shi na zhong</mandarin> like young newbie ah


, I think right okay after I I have to get done my japanese first ah then


no no no no no no


ya but I have slight interest, , uh !huh! <mandarin>真的:zhen de</mandarin> meh


so so ah


, uh <mandarin>我我觉得:wo wo jue de</mandarin> so far right <mandarin>最好看的还是:zui hao kan de hai shi</mandarin>


oh my god (ugh), you think this <mandarin>真的是:zhen de shi</mandarin> okay second descendants of the sun


, I mean really meh


err #kim dong# eh wait #dong joon# Lee #kim dong joon#


!aiya! !aiya! <mandarin>你不记得啦:ni bu ji de la</mandarin> he has a <mandarin>他他有:ta ta you</mandarin> like ten seconds, ten to fifteen seconds of appearance <mandarin>他就走了:ta jiu zou liao</mandarin> bye bye then <mandarin>有另一个另一个:you ling yi ge ling yi ge</mandarin> K drama <mandarin>是叫:shi jiao</mandarin> hotel #del luna#


excuse me <mandarin>女的是最最可以分任出来的：nv de shi zui zui ke yi fen ren chu lai de</mandarin> okay no


excuse me <mandarin>那个那个谁啊那个:na ge na ge shui a na ge</mandarin> err err err goblin <mandarin>的那个:de na ge</mandarin> #lee ji woon#


, <mandarin>还没有:hai mei you</mandarin>


<mandarin>你有戏看:ni you xi kan</mandarin> meh what


ah hi bye mama !aiyo! hi bye mama ah I think is like the worst eh, no not only does it make us cry for no reason, it also like has no meaning


more or less it's just like someone's there oh you have a chance to go back


shoot in three location


walkway <mandarin>第三个家:di san ge jia</mandarin> that's called budget, film I mean okay it's not really budget filming !wah! but <mandarin>好惨:hao can</mandarin> <mandarin>它们的:ta men de</mandarin> shots


at least descendants of the sun right <mandarin>他们会拍:ta men hui pai</mandarin> like !wah! skyline sky view, eh my last my last film


my last filming project we scouted four places eh no we we, ~ven we planned to scouted we we planned to scout five places right we Kena banned for one eh


I mean like <mandarin>又我不是：you wo bu shi</mandarin> editor mah then <mandarin>我的那个：wo de na ge</mandarin> like <mandarin>我的那个：wo de na ge</mandarin> project mate he has all the


recordings but we don't even need to do anything cause cancelled mah, project cancelled nothing we are, we have eh we have nothing except for still shots


shots of people walking shots of parking eating, !wah! <mandarin>很：hen</mandarin> random leh we don't even have like a main, a main like character or person that can just say ah


eh <mandarin>我们有我们的:wo men you wo men de</mandarin> interviewee right ghost eh <mandarin>全部都:quan bu dou</mandarin> ghost <mandarin>掉:diao</mandarin> leh, obviously you know how we tried to contact them through facebook


<mandarin>你想一个陌生人:ni xiang yi ge mo sheng ren</mandarin> hor <mandarin>他跟:ta gen</mandarin> suddenly type a facebook message to you


if it was in your shoes right if you're in that person's shoes ya !duh! we are, even we would even like so grateful right that there was there was actually someone who actually like replied


us ah but in the end also rejected


anything, ya


okay fine then you just tell me ya I I don't know leh I


of course I angry you know my spectacle and then if you see my spectacle also cannot recognise it of course I angry if you tell me !aiya! I I didn't see it, okay fine okay lor okay okay lah then you black face to me what


of course I angry, but if you say you didn't see it then okay then now uh become you angry over me leh then I become like I have to, uh something I I did something wrong eh


of course I angry !huh! you all cannot recognise my spectacle meh, yes I'm the one who left it there but, don't you recognise eh it's mummy's spectacle leh you know then


I don't know leh I don't know who ah, then if you didn't see it okay fine fine then you just be like mummy I didn't see it leh [orh], okay then I will cool down already then you angry over me then my fault ah


okay I tell Kor, I tell Kor lah I tell Kor I said this one you give mama then he asked me what is this I said !aiya! some chinese medicine lah you you just give lah mama will know one ah


ya then, nobody tell mama anything eh, so it's not your problem then you just tell me eh I don't know eh #kor kor# take one


didn't I say I want to pass it mama meh


bring it there of course pass it to mama lah then bring it there to what throw away ah, think lah logic logic, !aiya! then you ask me lah you can call me eh mummy what's this ah easy right


difficult meh, okay okay okay fine fine fine


so next time okay you all big already leh you all not like small kid leh ah I go somebody house then I go home ah I just walk home ah don't have to care anything, you know then you go home ah you have to think eh do I have to take anything did I leave out anything did I have to


uh help mummy to do anything or what you have to think mah, !haiya!, angry over nothing leh


ya ya ya ya ya I'm the one then always I'm the one, then nobody fault lah my fault only, next time ah next time you say ah you you do it yourself lah don't pass it to me lah right


in your heart must be uh okay okay okay so <mandarin>麻烦:ma fan</mandarin> then next time you do by yourself lor, !aiyo! then you won't be angry with me mah !alamak!


pass it to mama that's all very clear right, then if mama said what's this I don't know mummy give one then she will call me lah, then don't care that's your job already then you all very funny leh two of you


!huh! I don't know where is it leh I I pass it to mama then, then I don't know what is it I don't want to pass ah then bring the thing there and then put down there


then you remind mah sometimes Kor forget, okay okay fine then all forget lah ha


food very nice right what do you eat, !huh! ya, then you forget everything ah you only remember to eat ah


ya ya ya ya ya that is mama ask, you to take one eh you think you will say oh got mail for Pa meh, you think you will do that ah !whoa! the sky drop from ah from the top to the floor ah


what regular ya mama will always ah this letter ah, ah then [orh] [orh] [orh] okay lor take lor take lor, of course he tell you you you you remember meh if he don't tell you you will say eh is there any mail for Pa or not ha


uh okay lor okay lor must repeat many time so next time I give you more things ah, then you can remember repeat many times then you remember mah !hanna! #ah sum# lah ya ya ya


ah you are Pa mails man already say you remember already mah, then eh easy job leh can't you just do it you know it's so easy why you have to be very picky !aiya! like that I be the you know


your mailman eh, my thing okay okay so you are saying that next time don't ask me to do thing hor that's your thing


slave ah <mandarin>很苦:hen ku</mandarin> meh <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> ha


ha simple simple thing leh, irritating is because


you forget then you someone will tell !aiya! why you forget then irritate, then you just say I forget lah next time I'll remember lah no big deal


I get mad it's not because you all didn't tell mama it's because hor if you see my spectacle ah you still cannot recognise it's my spectacle ah, I find that oh dear my god it's like you forget about me eh okay lah then then can't you


okay if it's not my bag definitely it's one of us ah, two of y'all already there then must be mine lah logic right no logic logic logic


!huh! then you say eh this is aunty #mei lin's# spectacle !huh!, cannot be right, I never said you no need to know


I tell you you pass it to mama she will see what is it then she will know what is it I tell you you also don't know, then oh okay lah you just treat it as


oh giving a present to mama ha like that lah can or not, okay okay okay if I tell you what is it then then how, as in, I also don't know what is it how to give you explanation it's just chinese


medicine the <mandarin>鹿茸：lu rong</mandarin> you know the deer the horn how I know what is it, mummy pass <mandarin>给你的:gei ni de</mandarin> !alamak!


you and Kor hor the same one eh !aiyo!, I don't know where is it leh how to tell mama ha !alamak!, I think ah I give three years old kids hor they also can can help me eh


eh they don't care ah <mandarin>给:gei</mandarin> mama ha okay lah you know


no, I I also don't know why Kor keep asking me what is this ah


then


okay then you didn't even see ah see see see, you can just take out oh chocolate ha or what


the problem is like because of you lah you never said clearly lah ha because of you you never said clearly that's why the thing put there nobody care, my problem ah


[orh], [orh] then, then


, now can mah can fly already what, ya she have to apply for a lot of thing ah apply err permit


approval blah blah blah then they come back they have to find a place to stay, a designated place to stay cannot anyhow stay one eh


then when when is he coming back, oh okay, then how did he say !haiya! tell


mummy to buy never buy okay lor okay lor, then how want to buy or not then you never ask him


fourteen one four !huh! we still have forty five minute leh !alamak!


missed out what, so what did you eat


[orh] <mandarin>他没有放那个:ta mei you fang na ge</mandarin> cabbage


no next week next monday uh not next monday another monday, we're going to move uh uh items from the storage room to, to the uh to the house ah then you can go and help


to move ya ya to open the door to press the lift, ah you think you can help to carry ah !haiyo! no lah move the thing put inside the room


otherwise I have to pay the storage room leh every month [orh] [orh] [orh], you all only know !huh! !wah! good ah good ah !huh! paid money nobody knows eh, I tell you then then you can help me meh


oh ya ya okay now I'm informing you ha I'm paying ha


I've been renting it for years eh ah then, !huh! renting it for a year eh ya


<mandarin>有什么大不了对不对:you shen me da bu liao dui bu dui</mandarin> I inform, when the time come what time what


!huh! like that also must tell you all (ugh) <mandarin>十年啊你很夸张:shi nian a ni hen kua zhang</mandarin> hor


no I I tell you all already I don't think you all can remember because !aiyo! this one none of my business leh, right didn't I tell you all of course I did leh when we move from


ha Hougang ha to #toa payoh# ha didn't I tell you eh all the furniture is in, in the storage room of course it's in because we have no house ah ya that is the time that I put in that is two years ago


my fault my fault always my fault


then how is mama eh no how is uh <mandarin>大:da</mandarin> #kor kor# doing


, ah good lor everytime she wear wear wear eh don't want already give you then you no need to buy lah so good, donation , okay ha then you can <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor <mandarin>买买买:mai mai mai </mandarin> lor then <mandarin>就给你:jiu gei ni</mandarin> lor


ha then, then <mandarin>大:da</mandarin> #kor kor# <mandarin>怎么样了：zen me yang liao</mandarin> ah <mandarin>他不是要结婚了:ta bu shi yao jie hun liao</mandarin> meh


no after you apply already then once you get the key you have to register already, but then from apply to get the house ah maybe wait err another two years three years


like that lor


!huh! they want they get married already, ah they got girlfriend already or not [orh]


[orh] then <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> , uh usually ha when you want to married you need a house right, other otherwise you may have to like rent a house or maybe you have stay with your parents lah


where a lot of uh uh youngster !aiyo! <mandarin>不要:bu yao</mandarin> I don't want to stay with, your parents ah later ha your parents hor ask me to do housework I don't want ah right so you want to your own house right, ah then to buy a house if you are applying for HDB you


would get your house immediately new house ah we saying old house ah resale ha can, but resale expensive mah then if you want to apply directly ah HDB ah, uh you apply already if you get the unit ha then they have to build mah they build mah


ha like there opposite HDB they build right uh about two two years ah two years three years ah, ah then you build already then they will ready to get the key ah, once you get the key ah within don't know how many months ah you have to go register lor


ah you you want to marry marry then can get house mah but you apply uh no need to marry first lah, but then then a lot of people say !aiya! I apply first ah I have boyfriend ah then we'll apply ah anyway we


few years right but after two years three years eh they break off leh , cannot lah penalty lor you think you think what play play ah


certain percentage lor then you penalty lor that's why you cannot suka suka ha you


then can apply house already lor, BTO first or marriage first you married already then you stay where


then what for marry, no need to marry lah then you you you marry means you want to stay together, to form a family right ah [ya] lah BTO first ah unless you


you say !aiya! we err like no choice ah got baby already lah ha, then need to immediately marry lah ha then you can stay at your parent's place lor, or you go and buy resale lah you got money you go and buy resale lah more expensive lor


resale means open market lah like no discount lah you buy from, government direct new one ah government give you discount, that's why a lot of people want to and everyone ha singaporean got two choice only ah


two chance two chance not two choice two chance two chance two chance, okay apply new one from HDB resale open market you can buy many many many chance, but new one ah ya ya ya correct correct


uh ya, !aiya! <mandarin>你们还没有老:ni men hai mei you lao</mandarin> hor mentally <mandarin>就老了:jiu lao liao</mandarin>, so how your senior want to get married ah


, !huh! what BTO !huh!


but difficult lah next time


apply for house also like <mandarin>大:da</mandarin> #kor kor# they all apply <mandarin>大姐姐:da jie jie</mandarin> apply for many times eh they said, also cannot get it now like it's ballot one like you put, what ten dollar then they ballot lor then you see lah see whether the area is it very popular if very popular area hor


a lot of people go and ballot let's say only hundred unit but got one thousand people go balloting of course your chance very low ah, ya eh now very fast already leh last time we wait four five years eh, to get a house eh by the time ah <mandarin>分手了:fen shou liao</mandarin>


B T that means you build to order leh you you


you order already then they build mah then otherwise you, you build a lot a lot ha then nobody want to buy how, or you you like you book first then they err then they go and do the the the the house lor


BTO hotel, hotel not belong to you leh you


this one you build already ha nobody buy then the house ha, hotel never mind lor you you rent one day after that you leave then another person will come and rent what, but BTO is different eh


[orh] <mandarin>你说:ni shuo</mandarin> HDB <mandarin>好像:hao xiang</mandarin> hotel <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> ah no, once you buy it's your asset leh you own you own it leh hotel is you know


one day err I like I wear a dress then after that I return to you not mine already, ya but dress and house is different, the the the amount of money is so much different eh dress ah never mind nobody buy !aiyo! just


ha few dollar mah house ah different eh few hundred leh dollar thousand eh, ya lah dress is not asset, is very very cheap mah house is different eh


house is a lot of money to build leh then and cannot dress okay lah you old already go and donate, then house leh donate ah, last time ah last time last time the government will build first then


uh people go and apply now ah all is uh build to order that means I order first then they build, or they come up with uh mature area ah they say oh here are going to have two blocks, sure got people buy because mature mah err not Ulu one ah ha like


Clementi lah #toa payoh# lah #ang mo kio# lah people like ah you go what woodlands ah what, uh uh Punggol ah so far away ah oh then nobody not not I mean


now it's better lah now a lot of youngster go there because so cheap leh the house there, about thirty percent cheaper leh [orh] [orh]


east is the best who east east here is west eh east is Tampines leh, why is the best what


who say !aiyo! !wah! then <mandarin>他们去学校很远:ta men qu xue xiao hen yuan</mandarin> eh, (hmm), no east is not uh not very not


as expensive as west west is more expensive, you know why because west are all the uni, all the university here know a lot of good school here


[orh] then here is a more mature estate as the east, east is uh later then they develop but of course is better than Hougang or what Sengkang or what Punggol lah


uh <mandarin>建房子了:jian fang zi liao</mandarin> like #toa payoh# #ang mo kio# all these are old old estate already, you look at the house can already okay here the HDB how old if you say !wah! forty years old already !wah! this mature estate


like #ang mo kio# got maybe forty something forty forty something years old HDB because it's the very old, because mature estate got wet market new estate no wet market hor


you go uh go Punggol ah all no wet market one hor all is the those ah, ah HDB downstairs those like like #sheng siong# ah all the minimart ah all this, not the wet market leh hawker centre don't have leh only coffee shop leh then


the new coffee shop hor all lousy one all don't know how to cook one the food tasteless, then the wet market ha is all the old old stuff ah more authentic ah the old people still cooking


why rental more expensive mah no because HDBs uh coffee shop the rental is more expensive


compared to the wet market wet market is government NEA <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> control <mandarin>的他们的那些:de ta men de na xie</mandarin> stall hor


, , good all mostly all the old old


like uh Clementi lah #ang mo kio# lah #toa payoh# lah, #ghim moh# lah a lot of old old !aiyo!, west coast market okay west coast market <mandarin>也不是说很:ye bu shi shuo hen</mandarin> old Liao lah


Clementi market <mandarin>应该是比较:ying gai shi bi jiao</mandarin> old <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> , , err, how long already


still got how long to go how here ah, !huh! okay still got thirty five minute to go leh faster


tough ah this job, I cannot talk I never talk one hour leh, how you talk one hour got got got


[orh], , hey the course that I'm taking ha I need to go for three hours exam leh, then ha no I said !wah! three hours ah how many question ah they say hundred question I say


[orh] oh hundred question need three hours meh so long ah so good ah, then how ah how I do the question ah, I said !wah! three hours I don't know if I can finish or not leh


no some of the calculation very difficult


then hor I practice the paper eh oh I tell you hor, the paper hor fifty question I already take more than one hour eh how, then ha the fifty question ah okay it has uh total hundred question eh then fifty is they said


basic then another fifty advanced I said okay take basic then I do do do I said !wah!, most of the question I know I think I can score err almost hundred mark


but hor it turn out hor oh dear ah, ah lah then <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> leh a lot of careless mistake


then worst then I said okay never mind I try the advanced one, worse I fail


ya at least a pass mah I tell you, and then hor this is just one topic leh calculation lor


no lah all the finance calculation !aiyo! I headache , !aiya! you don't know yesterday I asked you you also don't know remember I asked you !huh! !huh! the, the what inflation adjusted inflation you !huh! what what is that


I cannot remember already you you you study econ eh, I don't know lah I never study econ how I know


!huh!, oh really, blah blah blah what


, lucky I never study econ tell you I faint, ya ya ya ya ya ya


oh lucky you never take uh I tell you surrender, !yay! eh what is your err


not G P not GPA what is your no what is your , what is your side module not the not the main one you can take a side, side one ah side one what they call that ah


ha side side dish like that


, minor minor ah ya minor no no I know


ah, okay


, , (mmhmm)


side dish


see I so good


(mmhmm)


then what did you take ah, [orh] , okay lor okay lor okay


, okay lor okay lor then then then you you can choose minor or not, minor, ha


serious <mandarin>一点啊没有:yi dian a mei you</mandarin> play play lah, [orh] then you spend more time ah


, next year, [orh] throughout the four year lah


okay lor (hmm)


straightforward <mandarin>没有的什么:mei you de shen me</mandarin> minor <mandarin>什么:shen me</mandarin> <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> lah


err choose ya year three lah year three <mandarin>你可以:ni ke yi</mandarin> choose <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> eh, no side lah major we have main dish only, no side dish no no no no no no choice one


you only have you choose okay you specialise in there are four choice in year three then uh, because year two year one and two it will be like a lot of general one all the all the people study the same, only year four ha then you say okay I want to choose uh


uh telecommunication okay then you will go telecommunication, I want to choose control then you only four option only that's all no more, <mandarin>你以为像你们这样好:ni yi wei xiang ni men zhe yang hao</mandarin> ha so many choice


we no choice one straightforward go study Chiong, ha then you choose here choose there choose here choose there ya, !aiyo! I don't like uh better rather hor ha no need to choose ah just study ah


ya true many thing to choose at the end hor everything a bit a bit a bit leh, a bit a bit then people ask you oh so which one are you good at everything a bit lah,


ya of course of course good and bad lah ha good and bad, , then you think so easy ah one hour I said !wah!


one hour leh what to talk ha nothing to talk eh


!huh! !haiya! your language better mah my english no good, like describe how I feel like when I change my job, then I want to a little bit lah


just a brief one no lah, I didn't of course you can write a few maybe one two sentence not write like whole paragraph, nobody would want to read lah but because you you people will have question ah


why you so old already ah why you still want to err switch job ah why ah ah, must write a bit lor


oh ya ya ya ya ya uh no lah I'm not I not say #hao lian# ah, !hanna! <mandarin>就是那种:jiu shi na zhong</mandarin> #hao lian# <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> lah


uh, okay lah then <mandarin>你可以学的嘛以后你也是要用的:ni ke yi xue de ma yi hou ni ye shi yao yong de</mandarin> leh


(mmhmm)


then, !huh! <mandarin>韩语变日语日语变韩语啊:han yu bian ri yu ri yu bian han yu a</mandarin> !huh!


!aiyo! <mandarin>可怕:ke pa</mandarin> eh then will get confused eh


!aiya! because your K drama mah, uh the K drama ah the I think the king hor I think next week last episode eh


[orh] <mandarin>它它到要到最后了:ta ta dao yao dao zui hou liao</mandarin> leh, K lah K lah


!ee!


so boring, ah <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> okay , but <mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> disaster leh


!huh! in real life eh oh dear !whoa!, then <mandarin>就破坏了这个戏:jiu po huai le zhe ge xi</mandarin> eh ya lah


ah <mandarin>什么:shen me</mandarin> [orh]


!huh! <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> meh


!aiya! I think I have problems hor recognising all the actor and actress eh cannot recognise them leh, ah looks the same ah <mandarin>不懂:bu dong</mandarin> eh <mandarin>尤其是女的:you qi shi nv de</mandarin> !aiyo!


meaning no lah got meaning, !huh!


, I know ah


so ha easier mah don't have to carry all the equipment , that is called cheap cheap what cheap filming, budget filming


, okay <mandarin>看你以后拍戏会不会:kan ni yi hou pai xi hui bu hui</mandarin> ha <mandarin>同在同样一个地方:tong zai tong yang yi ge di fang</mandarin> ha for ten days ah eh <mandarin>这个这个这个背这个背景:zhe ge zhe ge zhe ge bei zhe ge bei jing</mandarin> hor


ah why eh you never let me watch your video eh


!huh! <mandarin>没有拍到啊:mei you pai dao a</mandarin> !huh!, !huh! got nothing why got nothing


!huh! then <mandarin>你可以做一点:ni ke yi zuo yi dian</mandarin> editing halfway mah <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> practice mah


, , !huh! not even an interview ah


ah


then, scam scam


, then ah <mandarin>不睬你:bu cai ni</mandarin> lah


you say you will put the mosaic on their face then you know the mosaic ah, !huh! <mandarin>停了啊:ting le a</mandarin> !wah! how how to stop


err I would think that it is safer for the students because they don't have to travel to school and most student uses public transport to get to school so as you can see the public transport in singapore is actually very very crowded so a lot of students will have to be cramped in a small space so it's very easy for them to Kena COVID so it is very dangerous for them


ya I agree with you because one of my friend their children is actually autistic so they would uh find it very hard to pay attention so it's actually very hard for the parents to also focus on their work when they are working from home


ya so also for the student some of the lower income student uh they will actually have a very hard time to focus because of their un-conducive family environment cause some of the lower income uh student their family is actually very big and most of them live in one bedroom rental flat so their amount of space to study is actually very limited


also for them their parents cannot afford uh all those laptop and wifi so uh their internet speed and computer speed is actually very slow so it's actually very hard for them to have a clear uh view of the class like for the live classes


ya I agree so for graduating students uh especially for those uh in taking A level their lab session for science is actually very important as compared to O level so actually in this case they were actually be limited in the amount of practice session they have so it may actually affect their grades in A level greatly


so art student also uh will have reduced time in in having art lesson and the practical session so actually it affects almost all of the A level graduating cohort O level is actually also affect so actually it affects everyone


it actually depends because for preschool they it's very they have a very short attention span so naturally they will , be unable to focus uh during home-based learning so the amount of actual education is actually very limited because most preschool student needs a adult to constantly watch over them while they are learning so during home-based learning it's actually very difficult for parents to hundred percent uh focus on the children to make sure they do their homework because parents also need to uh do their work


at home, so it's actually very very un-conducive for both parents and children in preschool


yes then moving on from preschool I think primary school student is also greatly affected by home-based learning because for primary school student especially the lower sec student they the lower primary student they do not have experience in uh laptop learning so it's actually very hard for them to learn it so quickly so in the past actually children uh all those primary school student are exposed to laptop in like maybe upper secondary school and


upper primary school so they would uh learn that skill actually later on in their life so when they are suddenly put into this spot to uh quickly learn about those laptop computing skills it's actually very hard for them so they would actually uh take a long time and they will not be able to learn so well also most of them have relatively short shorter attention span so uh just like the preschool they will uh


will not be able to focus as well and may hinder their learning progress as compared to uh physical school


ya I've heard a lot a lot of case of uh parents complaining about their children actually uh messing around and it's very hard for them to focus also so about secondary school what do you think of it


ya I agree with you but let's move on to JC level for what I feel for JC is that it's actually uh the impact from home-based learning is actually uh minimised because most JC uses the lecture based system to teach students so what this is is that most uh student will have to watch a lecture uh before going for tutorial


so because of this most lecture is able to be put online fairly easily because uh previously all of the lecture are actually recorded and put online so most student are able to adapt to this new home-based learning as it is quite similar


but for JC level they would have to uh it's not really beneficial for them because uh actually they would have a lot of lab session to prepare them for A level so uh with the home-based learning they are unable to lab session as most equipments are not available at home and it's only in the school lab so


this case is very hard for them to be adequately prepared for O level A level sorry uh so it's actually disadvantages for them but if you see across the whole cohort everyone is doing the same thing so uh maybe SEAB will be more lenient so uh help all those students do better for A level


ya I think it's actually very harsh for most people because uh three hundred dollar is actually a significant portion of their income so also for some stores right uh even if their customer doesn't wear their mask the store owners will be fined five five thousand dollar because of it so it's actually very unfair for some stores because


uh maybe some customer enter with a mask but uh they take off during while they are inside the stores so uh I've heard of one case where the store owners was fined because of this and also uh it's actually


very hard for the stores to survive now because of the circuit breaker forcing a lot of people to stay at home so uh it's very hard for store owners to reject the business because they don't have a mask as they cannot survive already so it's like <mandarin>两两个一起不懂怎么样讲:liang liang ge yi qi bu dong zen me yang jiang</mandarin>


ya so maybe it's a bit fairer this case but uh some older people they of course they will receive money but it's actually very unfair for them because some of the older people may have dementia and they may accidentally forget to wear the mask however uh the safe ambassador will still carry out their roles religiously and they may still fine them so for older people it's actually uh really unfair because


yes I heard that before


ya I agree I agree with what uh Shanmugam said because honestly if she don't want to respect the society then why should the society help her and this is not the first time she has said that because previously she has also been uh fined by the uh safe ambassador and video of it is actually viral so when people see uh two videos of her in two separate occasion flouting the rules then it's


a bit unfair to <mandarin>很多人所以这样:hen duo ren suo yi zhe yang</mandarin> uh is very unfair for all those people that uh religiously follow the safe distancing uh rules and wearing masks all these so it's not fair for them basically


ya I agree so actually it's very uncomfortable for young children especially those under age two to wear mask so actually it's actually uh for the rest of society to protect them to actually reduce the risk of them contract uh having COVID because


their immune system for all those below two is actually very weak so uh if everyone wear mask the people under two can afford not to wear a mask so it's actually for the younger people so also because the doctor advice those under two not to wear a mask because their lungs and hearts uh nose all these are not very well developed so it's uh


very hard for them and actually dangerous they may even die when they wear mask so it's actually for the younger people


ya so uh with that I think that the economic impact of this whole COVID nineteen situation will last very long so actually this whole COVID nineteen situation is actually a black swan event which is a very unlikely event to happen so because of that the economy is actually very much uh impacted by the whole COVID situation


so you can see from the stock market uh the prices uh of the S&P five hundred from united states err dropped by a lot but then surprisingly uh after twenty third march the price uh the stock market have a very uh large rally uh almost to the uh level around the same before the COVID nineteen situation


so actually this shows that the federal reserve of united states is actually pumping a lot of money to keep the whole market alive uh to prevent it from crashing like what it happens during the two thousand eight financial crisis so actually the government is more prepared this time to uh limit the impact of the COVID nineteen situation but they cannot uh well they can


do a lot of quantitative easing to reduce the impact of uh on the stock market they can't really help for the uh more practical sense which is the unemployment level the unemployment level of the united states has stopped around uh ten percent which is actually a lot compared to the usual five percent


so because of that uh a lot of states in united states have to uh give out a lot of unemployment benefits and a lot of states do not have the money to do so so uh this is actually a disaster for united states cause it is actually possible for a state to go bankrupt which is unimaginable so uh the economic impact


uh will there will be a trickle down economic impact to the whole of the world because united states is actually one of the main trading partner in the economy


ya ya so uh actually the trade war is another black swan event so together with the trade war and the COVID nineteen situation the okay so with the US china trade war the economy is actually not performing so well because of that and actually in singapore uh the trade level actually went down quite significantly but thanks to diversification uh we are able to trade with other trading partners


but with COVID nineteen situation it's totally uh everyone is almost cut off so uh singapore as a strategic uh the whole nation is about trading it's actually very vulnerable to all this type of situation so actually singapore is actually quite affected by it but thanks to the uh budget those uh surplus beforehand singapore is actually able to have four budget uh which


uh makes singapore quite resilient to this economy challenge since the government is able to pump up money to sustain the economy without have having to go into debt which is what a lot of countries is doing which makes the whole economy quite fragile as a country make simply go bankrupt which can have a cascading effect such as the greek greeks crisis uh in two thousand eight which led to the


uh euro to actually the euro zone to be quite hurt by it


so ya the third wave will be the migrant situation uh actually the singapore government should have done more to actually stop the spreading of the disease in the uh dormitory but uh


it's actually very hard for the dormitory to actually convert so easily because of many years of neglect which makes the whole uh dormitory very rundown and I read an article and document I saw a documentary on CNA about a migrant worker uh filming in his dormitory so in his dormitory there are around twenty beds in a room which makes it impossible for a one metre safe distancing between the migrant workers so this has led to a


a very large cluster of dormitories such as the S eleven #toh guan# westlite dormitory so all these large uh uh all these large dormitory is uh very conducive for the virus to spread which makes the whole uh situation in the migrant uh workers dormitory very severe so


actually the government should have done more to uh stop the whole things before and I will actually do you agree with me that the uh the operator should bear the cost for the uh housing of the migrant workers since it's their fault that the whole situation turned out so bad and they have such a large profit in the years before COVID nineteen


ya so I I also agree it's very hard for the government to actually uh stop all those construction works from happening because singapore needs all this investment all this construction for the infrastructure for singapore to prosper so without uh to have a stop to all this uh important infrastructure for future development


it will actually have a long term impact on the growth of singapore because uh all this investment is actually very important such as the Changi airport extension the MRT lines all these are important investment for singapore future so to simply stop all these is the cost of doing that is actually quite high so uh up till a certain point actually the government is taking a very big risk by having them continue going to work


but after the whole cluster the government will have no choice but to close down uh to actually quarantine all those uh workers in the dormitories to make sure that uh the situation does not spread further so actually for my personal take I think it's not so bad for the virus to spread within the dormitory because they are able to achieve herd immunity in the dormitory


so actually so actually when the whole economy restarts almost all migrants worker will have the uh immunity for COVID nineteen so actually it's safer for them since they are able to uh cause their immunity is actually quite strong since they are all working very fit so their they are very few of them requires medical attention as they can just stay inside uh just rest to uh


make to recover and by that the immunity for whole of singapore actually increases so it's actually safer for everyone since they can afford to have a disease and increase the immunity without much cost so it's actually might not be such a bad thing for them to have COVID situation


actually to say that is a privilege is not so nice for all those people that have to work because have to go to uh office to to work all these location because some people like the cashier uh like the uh cleaners they cannot work from home because it's impossible for them to work from home so it's actually not fair for all those uh people to work from home because


they are also quite vulnerable as they are the lower income people so they it's very vulnerable for them to uh contract the disease and without work uh when the contract disease they don't have work then it's very uh financially straining for them so it's actually a privilege for all those uh all those office worker that are able to work from home so uh it's actually a quite quite a good privilege


ya I agree your point about uh I want to elaborate about point on the talking on on train uh I've taken a train recently and uh I noticed that quite a lot of people are still talking and how should I say this those people that are talking on the trains are actually


uh have a it's not really a singaporean uh because from the way they talk they talk it's actually quite obvious that they are from other countries so this actually, uh it's not really tourist just uh maybe uh PR not really PR but uh S pass holder all these so uh they do not have much respect for the singapore law which what is what I must say so uh they openly talk in the train and


and also it disturb the peace of the whole uh morning commute because they are just talking loudly blatantly without any respect for others which is very disrespectful for singaporeans uh for everyone in the


ya they should learn to actually follow the rules all these


uh it's actually quite quiet uh especially if you take during off-peak time even during peak time like five six uh there will still be seats maybe uh around three quarter full like the seats uh what I've noticed is that a lot of people are choosing to stand up maybe because they want to have much contact so actually there are quite a lot of seats on the train and most people will just stand uh


uh some I think most people will uh follow the safe distancing one metre rule so it's actually very good to see that


ya ya so it's the phase one opening is actually not that bad cause I would assume that because of all those uh students going to school then there there'll be a lot of students in the train however since a lot of school have uh staggered arrival and dismissal time then the situation is not that bad uh compared to before so uh they are actually a lot of space uh on the MRT and it's uh around


seventy percent fifty percent reduction in the usual capacity which is quite important in ensuring safe distancing


ya actually the number of commuters is actually very low so uh I will agree with that uh the number of workers is actually uh much lesser and also uh there are not a lot of commuters so it's actually safer for everyone else and and ya


okay so I would think phase two will happen around july which is around one month from now so uh currently the number of uh community cases it's actually dropping or around fifteen two all this low numbers so it's actually uh


uh possible for the government to open but we must consider the fact that all these cases will actually take around two weeks to uh surface so uh it will be a delayed effect so if the phase one uh reopens now the


if there's a surge in number of cases it will not be uh seen now it will be like around two three weeks later so uh we have to see uh the situation two or three weeks later and we cannot jump to conclusions so soon uh even if the figure is still good


ya I agree uh especially on the token part actually there's a uproar in amongst the net netizen in singapore because they're afraid that the singapore government would actually use this contract tracing to actually uh prosecute a citizen of a crime they committed so it's actually a lack of privacy and maybe the citizen will feel insecure with that contact tracing device because uh


it's actually a form of tagging which is used by the uh police to track all those uh prison uh all those who should I say, ya all those uh at home one so uh it's a form of uh restriction of movement which uh curtails the privacy and freedom which a lot of people uh value these days


uh they haven't say it before but ya but I've read that they government come out to say that the device only uses location tracking eh doesn't use location tracking but uses contact tracing so it is very uh hard for them to actually pinpoint the exact location but even if they want to they actually it's actually possible so uh


people still doesn't feel so safe with that uh token with them, ya so previously uh the government will still have all those uh health tracking device the step tracker so actually a flaw of this step tracker is that it's very prone to uh for like very easily spoilt so uh it it's actually useless when it spoil so if this contact tracing token is uh have the same quality as all those fitness tracker then it's actually defeats the whole purpose since uh it's


not accurate not reliable so uh it'll actually incur a even greater costs for the government


I'm not sure but I would assume it's some some type of watch that you can put on your wrist so it's easier for them to wear and notice, uh another flaw is that people will just forget to wear it


quite <mandarin>麻烦:ma fan</mandarin> you see


okay hello so today we'll be talking about the COVID nineteen situation in singapore err as you all know that err in singapore are students actually engaged in this thing called the HBL also known as home-based learning and in this home-based learning students are actually told to learn from home using their laptop or other electronic devices instead of physically attending school so what are your views on HBL


that that is actually true it's actually better that home-based learning was conducted in conjunction with the work from home because err especially for the err primary school kids and kindergarten kids their parents will actually bring them to school using the the same public transportation so by having the work from home and home-based learning uh conduct having both of them err being conducted in conjunction with each other actually significantly reduces the number of people using public transport


and I feel like in terms of err the actual learning by the students content content wise it wouldn't be much of a difference from the classroom because the teacher would still have to teach what they want to teach deliver the same amount of content according to the syllabus however err what we cannot deny is like the lack of uh physical human interaction between the students


especially err for people with a short attention span or those who feel or or those who are more extroverted or feel like they need the err human interaction to be able to learn better


that is true and actually err even I I feel like even the teachers will have a hard time doing their job because uh it's a whole different dynamic for example a lot of teachers that I know they have been teaching their entire life like twenty years career as a teacher in a physical classroom so even the teachers themselves also have a hard time trying to adapt to a online based learning and this is even though err for most MOE schools


err the the these these students will have uh at least one one day per year where they adopt this online class learning however what I have noticed from all these online this once a year thing before this entire COVID situation is that


it is usually err err a bunch of homework given to the students and basically there's very little engagement between the teachers and the student because at most the teacher will probably give them a youtube video which is most usually not by themselves or some kind of E-portal animation kind of learning whereas now in this arena of home-based learning we are talking about like face to face interaction so basically instead of being in a classroom they are now doing it they are doing it err


using like uh platform such as zoom or or hangouts


ya ya this is actually very true because I I actually watched this uh documentary by channel news asia on youtube it actually features a family of I think, I think at least five five children ranging from I think as young as from primary school to even secondary school so one of the uh elder siblings are actually having their uh uh I I I cannot recall whether is it O level or N level examination this week and because err the his his or her other siblings are very young so they tend to make a lot of noise at home and then that poor child would had actually had to go to the corridor the staircase to study for his uh


exams or actually attend lesson uh I feel like this is actually very distracting to graduating students


ya ya that that is actually quite true but as as we have seen from the newspaper reports and actually almost everywhere else they experts do not think that the COVID situation will be over anytime soon so uh this COVID situation might last at least one more more than one year then do you think that err home-based learning is a feasible feasible long long time plan


ya then about preschool right because of the of the nature of the the target group we are talking about it's actually children as young as three to four five years old six


err they are actually developing children who needs the social interaction because in this age group uh they are actually developing very quickly and the purpose of kindergarten is is to allow them to have social interaction to interact with their peers so that they are able to develop err their develop their social cues and be able to read uh body languages from others


so uh the fact that now they cannot meet their peers uh physically and have to have their lessons through a online platform uh it it it might actually hinder their development moreover for this uh group of uh preschool kindergarten students


uh I feel like they are they have a very short attention span so it means that uh the teachers will actually have to put in even more effort compared to uh students from other age group to capture their attention span


okay lah but for primary school right I feel because they are in primary school they do not especially the lower secondary not not the not those who are taking err PSLE or taking the PSLE next year I feel like the only benefit they get is that they get to play at home lor like uh cause uh honestly if if if I'm not wrong now they don't really have any exams to begin with so it's more of err actually more for learning than


than it's actually err targeted towards taking the exam so generally that that is only then that is their only benefit but benefit to them but not for their parents because uh because they get to play at home so they they will be disrupting that parents who are actually trying to work from home


secondary school ah okay the thing about secondary school is that now we are talking about these uh these uh group of uh students who are going through their puberty so they will tend to be a bit more rebellious so uh not not in singapore but on in in the US I have seen students who who will crash into other other other classes zoom classes just to cause disruption


and and this will actually affect the learning for those who are actually uh serious about learning because err what what I've seen is that they they will go in and then err shout vulgarities and basically just make a fool of themselves at the expense of others so this is definitely not what we would want to achieve out of a home-based learning because err if you think about it


while there are rebellious students out there those who who want to cause trouble there will be also the ones who are who are who are actually trying to adapt to this uh unprecedented situation wanting to learn even though it's rather I I would say uh not comfortable because this is definitely something that nobody here is used to and they they they might actually suffer because of that


and for secondary school students also the graduating cohort who will be progressing onto whether is it their junior colleges to polytechnics ITE or even to work and uh I feel like uh whether whether or not they which regardless of which pathway they would want to go they still would want to at least do decently for it and I feel like that that might increase the anxiety amongst graduating student because err they will feel like


that they are they are trying to learn but then at the same time the the environment is not conducive and also, that their their their peers also because err


from what I know uh schools will be uploading videos ahead or they'll be giving students a pile of work so that might be this added competition that to see like who finishes their revision package faster and that is actually uh added stress which they might not have in school and also about online learning is uh it actually depends on the


uh connect connectivity on the wifi so sometimes they might be lagging and sometimes uh when the teacher is talking uh lag lags will happen and then err people might not be able to post their question as easily as in physical lessons but uh as a as a personal take away from me I see that uh sometimes just sometimes only err because they are not in they are they are they are so called like hidden behind their their laptops right


uh those students who usually do not post questions in class feel a bit more comfortable uh posing questions uh via zoom or hangouts so uh I feel like this is a a give and take situation


ya ya that that is actually true the disadvantage to everyone it's it's about the same although more for people who have uh not so conducive environments at home then now that we are talking about JC right err I suddenly thought of like the poor poly students who do not have their orientation because of the COVID situation err ya cause err poly students they actually go into school I think around april so that was when the the situations started escalating like nobody's business err


err and then uh from from from what I know err poly students do not even get to attend any orientation so basically what happened was uh they started school learning and without knowing any of their peers and I believe that's the situation until now they do not have uh orientation and all and I feel like uh this might be a bit


uh worrisome for some student because some student might feel like okay so when the COVID nineteen situation is over when they go back to school uh they will not have any friends at all and and because by then the curriculum has started the rigour of the education has already started uh people might not be uh keen to make make friends


and honestly uh uh when it was april when I saw this uh situation unfolding for the polytechnic students I was actually hopeful that uh the university students would not face this issue uh now uh university students enrol into their school around august so around this period of uh during july it will be the orientation period but sadly for them once again uh most


orientation uh physical orientation activities are cancelled and this means that uh student the the replacement event is is just uh uh not so favourable uh E-orientation which even until now uh the the the the current uni students planning for orientation


they honestly have no idea what is going on because err this is a whole new situation they have to get approval from the school from the relevant stakeholders such as their sponsors to to get things going so actually right now the situation is a is a bit of a uh it it it's actually rather chaotic because uh the the deadlines are coming but then uh no decision no progress has been made everything is still on a wait and see approach which is really not the way to go but


uh also on the other hand it's understandable because it's basically waiting for somebody to give err a direction but uh because of the number of stakeholders involved there is no way that things can be, can can can can go go smoothly ah so it's basically like <mandarin>一团乱:yi tuan luan</mandarin> lor like okay okay but but the saving grace for uni is uh excluding the orientation students who might have err


less than expected below the falling below their expectation uh orientation experience uh the thing about university is that a lot of the courses modules are already digital based so most if if not all of the university students would


would be required to have a laptop so this means that compared to the other uh uh JC poly secondary school or primary school then they are already equipped with the necessary devices to go on to a full home-based learning experience


and this means that uh compared to others uh they would be more used to this uh online activity but the fallback is once again like I've mentioned earlier the professors who are used to taking physical lessons will have some struggles trying to adopt to a online manner of teaching and even in universities where there's err science students music students where they have to be there physically for their lab or


music sessions uh they will ultimately suffer because they would need the uh module modular credits from those sessions to graduate but because of this situation they are not able to go to uh to to attend their lab or or music session which means it might delay their graduation if this thing uh pans out for a for a very long time


or they will have to rush everything once uh school resumes so uh from what I know that uh there are some universities which they are looking into, uh having a zonal zonal side uh section based on the student's uh primary course but however err because of the way a uni is conducted students are actually some students they do not have more they have they have more than one uh primary courses so for example like err bioengineering student although their their private faculty is in engineering but


because of the bio word in front they will also have affiliations with the science faculty which means that they will have to move between these two faculties but if there were to be like a a a zonal kind of plan that means that they will have no choice but to be attached to the engineering faculty which also affects their way of learning because they cannot move between the faculties which honestly and I hope not uh will not affect their their their their graduation timing


right so actually about the COVID situation err do you think like the three hundred dollar punishment is too harsh


so it's like the government give you six hundred dollars but if you flout the uh social distancing rule they'll take back lor right


okay okay that that's actually very true but then we also know like the elderlies are like they are they are quite stubborn ah especially at the beginning when uh when when the government said like wearing of masks is compulsory that you cannot now I mean we we saw the videos of uh elderlies quarrelling with the police officer insisting that they are just going to sit there and eat their lunch and and have the officer deal with it so like I feel like this also like a matter of uh educating them because maybe maybe they do not know


the consequences of impact of their action or how much is necessary to err actually adhere to the safety distancing measure put on their mask and all everything else, okay now that we are talking about the three hundred dollar err fine for not wearing a mask right we cannot leave out this uh the sovereign lady


right err this funny lady who claims to be a sovereign and that she does not adhere to the err safe distancing rule in singapore she'll do whatever she wants she's a nation by her own


and on and on then actually in particular what what something that was memorable out of this saga is that uh I believe he's the law minister uh Shanmugam he actually said that if that lady were to declare herself as a sovereign she would not she should not be able to benefit anything from the society


right right right plus this uh entire social distancing thing mask wearing thing it's actually a community effort and which err as in in K Shanmugam'S words err benefits err by the society because if nobody is wearing mask this entire err safety distancing uh preventing the spread of droplets thing will not work and


it it's okay if you are if you are one person that's not wearing the mask because uh everyone is so their droplets won't to go to you and your droplets will just be flying around but it will it will be they will not enter the other people's body but this will be unfair to the rest of society who are who are abiding to the safe distancing measure and then wearing a mask is not is not very comfortable uh you know especially in singapore's climate


so err if she if she refuses refuses and as you said earlier multiple times uh to refuse to wear a mask declaring herself as a sovereign then she obviously should be fined and even harsher err penalties


that that is true it is something I herd immunity but mask right because err from other countries they are they are they are saying like okay I'm just going to let the virus spread so if the virus spread to enough people and then they build immunity from it so we can protect the weaker ones but this is like mask but immunity so if everyone wears the mask those who cannot wear the mask can don't wear lor like the the the children who have a weaker lung capacity


but actually err I'm I'm of a bit of a different view err safe for the extreme people who despite repeated reminders refuse to comply to the safety distancing measures I think that uh this this three hundred dollar punishment might be a bit too harsh especially for those who are religiously following the rules but maybe uh


for for one time uh forget to wear their mask and then uh get uh and then uh get a fine because err ultimately this is a balancing act where the where the pros of wearing a a mask will outweigh the cons so and the the the negative purpose is unlikely to in that it is


it is the the purpose of this actually wear of wearing the mask actually unlikely to intentionally penalise people I feel like err sometimes they can have they they they can let it go lah give chance you know to to others like for example one time err forget to wear the mask then then after that you will see people rushing back home without wearing a mask then but then again


err we are we are not trying to err encourage not wearing mask but it's more of like err a balancing act where I feel like chances can be given to those who unintentionally on one time basis accidentally err forgot to wear mask or forget to abide to the safe distancing rule because if you can see ah in some supermarkets the supermarket is already filled with the goods and there's like quite quite a number of people inside which means that


technically speaking it's very hard to observe a one metre distance from err between each other so okay okay but but to be fair enough uh I I do not see anyone enforcing the safety distancing measures inside supermarket but as we can see recently right a lot of places where COVID nineteen patients have visited uh they are actually supermarket so which means that uh it's like it's more likely than not that uh soon err the measures for these supermarket might


become more stringent which again cause more trouble for everyone because err I I'm not sure if this thing is still in place but for certain popular wet markets they actually spread out the crowd using an odd and even IC number but as far as I know I think it's limited to four to five wet markets only but not for everyone else so if we if we were to


err impose this three hundred dollar fine like strict adherence is definitely not possible but I feel like this three hundred dollar should be for people who are like like the sovereign lady who intentionally err refuses to comply with anything and then actually uh so-called endanger others then now that we are we are talking about wearing masks safe distancing measures then the F&B restaurants are closed people cannot err go out to eat


and also their ongoing trade war with china right which has been happening even before the uh before COVID nineteen became such a big thing that affected everyone's life


ya that is actually true like I I have I have seen like numerous articles where they say things like err if anyone were to handle err the COVID situation to solve it'll be singapore because err we have err good medical resources a a large reserve but err even a few days ago uh PM #lee hsien loong# he actually said that err this err budget thingy that you have mentioned just now the one where they keep giving singaporeans money pay out


err he said that even for singapore it's it's not a sustainable plan which means that err ultimately err the trading between countries and the movement of people between different countries would have to go on and and this err giving out of money cannot be a long term solution it's only just a short term solution to help people tide over this thing and just now you you kept mentioning this black swan situation which reminds me of this


uh <mandarin>成语:cheng yu</mandarin> which is called <mandarin>人算不如天算:ren suan bu ru tian suan</mandarin> like honestly who would have thought that this err COVID nineteen situation would go so out of hand like if if if you remember like previously in I think like december like nobody was even talking about it when the news first came out from Wuhan then I think singapore we started taking things that the first case I think came around chinese new year


where a family from from from coming from coming in from Wuhan actually brought in the virus to singapore and then yada yada yada but that was the first uh situation I think I think we managed the first wave because we were on high alert but I feel like what brought singapore to our downfall okay don't say downfall err to the situation we are in right now is actually because of the second wave where singapore started recalling back singaporeans from overseas and because we we do not know


the the the effect of the the the COVID situation in other countries such as the US UK when when those people when who are recalled back into singapore they they also Kena the COVID COVID nineteen which means that I I don't think we were prepared for that wave which because err it's actually a larger number


of people who are infected than those who are coming in from china because err for the china tourist err I think I think since the situation begin err singapore was already on high alert so we started scanning them but I I think err we kind of neglected those who are singaporeans who are coming back which costs another wave then of course the migrant situation the migrant worker situation ah


err of course of course they have some responsibility but err they they have regulations to follow so unless, err I I feel like err even before we reached the operators stage of obviously they are wrong but I feel like from from the regulation side err things have to change and if we if we if if if if we put it nicely the migrant workers is a big household a big household of thousand over people so obviously if one person gets err COVID nineteen then of course it's his his uh roommates and all are all going to get it but err actually honestly it sounds like excuse for me ah because


where where how how can we have a household that's over a thousand a thousand err a thousand over people right and actually err these err err migrant workers thing I feel like for for the operators err maybe maybe because uh there are some err inherent issues


err because in in singapore we have a small small land area what then how could we like give everyone a big housing err especially for err for for those workers so like and like recently when we saw that the government was trying to improve things they say like I don't know increase the per square feet for each worker but honestly if we think about it when they add all their barang-barang their shelf their bed their belongings then like the effective area per person per person is also like quite small lah so


err it will be an issue that we have to err carefully uh track on but honestly I feel like err this this situation if if if I don't if I if I recall correctly err this situation started in Mustafa is it where one of the workers brought it back to his dorm then uh it started spreading in the dorm I I I I feel like one thing if we could repeat this situation


you know let's just repeat the entire twenty twenty err if we could if if if it's something we could do about the migrant situation that means like the moment when there was somebody in the in the workers' dorm who are uh who who had who had COVID nineteen and as they said it's a big household honestly everyone should be quarantined I I'm not sure what is the quarantine measures for the workers but


because err for for for other singaporeans right if one person in the household err gets COVID nineteen the entire family will be self quarantine order their close contact and everything and actually for for migrant workers if you think about it their contract tracing is a bit more easier than singaporeans because uh what they are doing is uh between the dorms and


their workplace and uh and then they also don't really go out as regularly as other singaporeans maybe on their on their off days where they go do their to wherever they want to to enjoy their free time so okay lah but but if if we put it put it in a not so nice manner would be they are they are actually a a neglected bunch of people and then


things went out of hand over there and and and I think previously what was stated was that err they could not get the workers to stop working immediately err once the the situation started getting a bit out of hand but but was still within control was because err there are there are people who who came who left their home hometown to come to singapore to work so their priority has to work you cannot just ask them to stop working


from because err they are all healthy individuals who are fit for work err so definitely their healthcare costs will not be as much as like like perhaps the elderly and and and and children and ya lor so basically let's say okay let's let's move on to our uh our our err okay we shall shall we move on then what what do you think we should talk about


err okay okay K wait I have a question so do you think that work from home is a privilege


ya lah to be honest like uh this kind of like privilege thingy err is actually always the the lower income group or those who are not so privileged they will always bear the brunt of the the impact of anything actually err global warming whatever so what actually if we if we just now you mentioned like the lower income people who might have a bit of a a who who have to suffer because of this COVID nineteen situation


then I think I will talk about err the office people which you did not elaborate on earlier so for them right err initially I I I felt like there was a lot of resistance towards err taking back home their laptops their desktops to work from home err because err like with the teachers the students nobody is used to working from home everyone is working in an office and now suddenly err at an initial stage where the government was like okay other than essential worker everyone else work from home or you don't work


so there was actually a lot of resistance against it like people were like !huh! how could I how how can how is it possible that I work from home then what if I need to print things what if I need to talk to my colleagues then wouldn't my phone bills go up you know all those expected concerns but then err now that err after two months of circuit breaker people are actually used to working from home so they see like eh actually not bad what this work from home thing can actually work like I I get to stay at home I save on the transport costs then sometimes at home the boss is not around can slack slack around a bit


so actually then then suddenly it it it their their mindset suddenly change you know it suddenly became like a privilege and now that err we are trying to open up now that we are in phase one of the uh post circuit breaker then now people was like eh I don't want to go back to work it's like very dangerous to work from home so you know like the the the slack slack mentality starts to come out try to sneak their way through all of this


but then they they they say things although although I must agree it's a valid concern things like err dangerous to be in a public transportation because uh as a matter of fact everyone has been err most people has been home for two months already now that we are suddenly reopening the economy


it might be quite scary for people to like have to suddenly board a train full of people although err per regulations cannot talk lah but but but the fact that there's so much close proximity between people then


this will this will definitely uh uh cause some fear among the people uh who are who are travelling back to work


as in like tourist is it


with their masks on ah right okay lah okay lah err as in as in still still wrong to talk but at least with their masks on okay okay


not not just singaporeans lah basically anyone who is abiding the no talking on train rule, I I see then err other than them is is like the train ride like very quiet because I have not been outside for quite some time


everyone trying to Siam each other ah cause err the the the one time I went out err there were there was still a lot of seats err available because err it was the off peak hour then well I I get to choose what I think I a whole row to myself


okay lah because uh phase one uh those who are who are travelling outside are are like the students err more of essential workers because err previously there are each company was capped with the number of people they could have at their office work site uh at at any day but now I think if if a if a business is considered essential by the government


uh I I think they get to operate at full or almost full capacity so if if you think about it uh like previously they said that uh when when everything was in the uh strictest criteria the population that was uh going to work is around fifteen to twenty percent I feel like now maybe thirty forty percent oh do do you agree with my with my estimation because ya ya what what is the situation you see outside


fair enough fair enough okay err now that we are like left with eight minutes to finish up this one hour conversation I'm honestly very tired right now and I and uh we're running out of points to discuss so okay then let's talk about uh post COVID okay I think that's a bit too far-fetched maybe like phase two phase two when do you think phase two will happen or when you hope phase two will happen


that is true like the the government also say that figures are expected to rise because more people are travelling now and then they are also issuing tokens right to for for better contact tracing because the initial app of err trace together is basically a flop ah cause like especially for iphone users you have to like always be in the app and that that's really like just not the way to go and then you have to turn on bluetooth