then okay forget it if you can't see then okay lah if it looks like a very harsh what's it look like what's it look like, sorry


I I I said fish not that word ah, the most he will be like you know what kind of experiment is that you know I feel its very pale and I feel it's very powerful you know and if we want to understand that okay I'm not gonna, use the word god you won't understand anything to be frank whether it's boxing stand up comedy if you want to be good at anything


because whatever we do we have to go into the room the learning room or whatever it is naked if we're going to be holding on to our own I think I know that I think I know this I know a bit of this we learn about seventy percent but thirty percent still cannot


maybe that thirty percent that's supposed to go in is the life changing information but because of your preconceived notions your ideas your beliefs your thirty percent you refuse to give up, a person with a lot of information but never becoming a wise person and I feel like that's one of those traits that


we can see among the greats in almost every single area of life ah whether it's saints or professional athletes great leaders they all were able to live themselves, look at it we wear clothes and all that but we actually are walking around life naked I mean how much can your clothes hide you I'm asking you a question


the first thing that you may be thinking ah maybe you may be what kind of question is this it's a bit uncomfortable, ya it's supposed to be uncomfortable when you were born you were born naked, no clothes somehow we've been conditioned that we have to hide all these


yes of course I'm not asking you to go walk walk naked in orchard road today you'll get a <tamil>என்ன:enna</tamil> I'm not asking that but what I'm trying to say is


ya because we are too busy in our own head and it's just a, it's quite a comedy like what my friend mentioned earlier on like, back from all of this ah and you look back this whole thing looks like some giant circus and we are not saying that we are completely free no we are still in this but


that awareness at least to see through this maybe not hundred percent but maybe like forty to fifty percent more clearer than maybe like five years ago, than maybe like five years ago it's it will be very life changing and so I will leave to Sateer to discuss more about his wedding plans


okay Tandri, also one of y'all is in captain Sateer'S heart thanks, okay that's bullshit but let's not go through that okay


okay going back to the spirituality story right eh no going back to the, okay going back to the future wife story which my friend asked that's why I'm talking so if there's no spirituality I don't think the relationship can go on lah because there will be a lot of hindrance from both both the sides lah


because like I am trying to go to a different direction and if that, person ah she is just stuck in that place of her own ego her own needs, she is just going to drag me back from my whole journey of spirituality so I don't think its a proper match so I think someone who is spiritual


and willing to walk their own spiritual path so where we can learn about each other lah and uncover truths and like what my friend just said, once you know who you are right you can sort of take in an exciting happiness from each other needing each other you can actually share the moment together so I think that is something more beautiful than just saying I need her so that I can feel happy and literally just using her and then somehow love is just using her


I don't think I want to go into it because I have seen it, there's this funny story that I remember lah this funny story I went to my cousins ROM I think which happened a month ago and then so and, so they were exchanging vows and stuff right


and then the bride said something which I which seems comical lah okay there was this comical, sentence which said if I die there's no reason for you to live anymore I mean like what, kind of nonsensical childish sentence is that


like if you truly love the person if you truly want the person the person you should want the person to be better if I die, go on and live a better life do something in my name, if you wanna get married and be happy love is about seeing the other person happy


your your dad doesn't say that your mum doesn't say that if I die you have to go and die your mum say I shall go I shall die ah but my son live better your mum don't say if I die you don't breathe you too stop breathing there's no reason for you to live but what what kind of sentence is if I die there's no more reason for you to live you'll die together with me


this is a thought of you should live as long as I live and if I die then you die, so I think that's where, our childish love is lah no matter how much we sell ourselves and we label ourselves as adults as grownups you know mental state in our way of need we are children


need to grow and mature not physically as adults and not, idea of I die then you need to die together with me


so I'm not saying every girl is like that lah but I saw something like that lah but that's a very weird vow and some more vow so does she mean literally, like so that's the funny stuff I I remember so that's the first quality second maybe character wise


just compatible someone who is more giving like more into charity that's why I tell you spiritual is everything and everything speaks and, and everything else will follow through like the character of giving because a lot of people are being selfish people now I mean I'm not trying to hurt anybody but most of them are selfish they are like


it's for me what about me what about me that's the thought instead of just spending one day one day for other people and not expecting anything in return so can't decipher, I'm some some person like that and let's say if I'm doing charity and I'm doing stuff for other people and my partner in life is like eh why are you not saving money for our future why are you not spending money to buy a car why are you not


buying that big house its going to be an impediment in my goals and my journey in life, and some persons okay lah talk about inner beauty lah so I do expect a little outer beauty as well


like someone who looks attractive as a human again lah animal instinct ah so I do enjoy some of those so with that I think the topic ends lah, and nice so are we done


so we often use this quote quite often in our lives and we


I think it's quite a, if you really listen to the lyrics it's quite it's quite a powerful but of course it's again it's a bit skewed the sense that it's you know it's it's as the other extreme like !hey! why should we trust all women


it's it's not fair also but I mean it sort of helps puts things into perspective or whatever like what my friend mentioned like people or what making some


okay it's like without it, another ya I mean it's an amazing thing if you meet the right one again but you know to die like what the hell I mean it's quite


I mean, the I just because someone else passes wafers or you know something else, crazy man but I mean if let's say you mean touch wood lah if you, somehow you die because you know you are you're defending your family or you you know you are trying to save say maybe your loved ones that one is different but just oh you cannot live because I died that's why you cannot live I mean it sounds damn ridiculous it really sounds something like what TDI rogers would say


but people are still I'm going, that and it's quite good I mean this, you know and love, failure and like you know suicides, triggered by the <tamil>இந்தகாதல்தோல்வியோ:indha kadhal tholvio</tamil> ya it is quite


it's quite depressing you know uh it's quite, it's quite sad like you know and it's not it's not good it's not to say that oh there's no hurt or there is no pain no it's it's not to say that but it's just that, you know suicide is not the answer for that and


and, you know I recently had a friend who who committed suicide in october and like it's just it's just a shock ah and and but more than a shock it was just like more of like a big learning lesson then of course I learn a lot of life lessons from the event you know I mean it's one thing to see or go to a funeral


of people who maybe you don't really know so you just go there and you're like okay, oh the person died and then you come back but it's another thing to go and see someone else in a coffin you know the you know quite well and then it's like it's it's I mean of course was his humbling to know that you also ended the often like that but at the same time it's also like you just see you know all that colour


that you know that the talents of the person might have and all that stuff you know it just from being really colourful to just being too just being grey you know there's no colour is nothing and like the person is lying there dead you know and it's like this


it is sad lah he's just one person but just imagine daily how many people commit suicide due to like those kind of stuff and I mean of course I'm not sure you have, but I'm sure not everything is gonna be shown on the news lah because if not it will become very depressing you know everyday there's gonna be people committing suicide and not just in singapore even around the world you know where it's like just


what exactly is the answer we are still finding you know but there's just, our modern living in this world seems to be contributing to ya I mean no need to go as extreme as suicide but just like depression


and you know other mental health issues that that just seems, to be something in our modern way of living as luxurious as it be under knowing really tuned to the new you know it's just you can't help it


and I another thing you know there's also a lot of dumb people living in society who are saying that you know people with depression are really just lazy oh they don't want to try ya sometimes stupid thing it's like that's the whole irony I realise you know on one hand we pride ourselves as being a first world country and yet we're behaving like


we are holding onto the beliefs of some let's say you know some we're still living in like some third world country like people still refuse to look at the facts people's refused look at science and ensure maybe not medical science may not be able to cure everything I mean they have narrowly claim to be also but


it's like sometimes a certain science it's, I mean it's beneficial to help you understand like you know an army of policies can go on forever but I'm going back to the lighter note, coming to another note Sateer is actually he just got into a relationship last week and he's looking for a new one now so the listener


okay sorry sorry it was just uh we didn't notice it wasn't on pause so it's err an accident


err don't be offended if you're offended it's fine as well but finishing up uh my friend Sateer will help wrap it up, but we are wrapping up this and thanks we were fortunate today we hope you had a very good spiritual sermon today and a lot of thoughts on what we know and what we share as in my


while you're doing that adding with a listening I mean and I hope that we have a human listening rather than a robot listening to it but if it's a human maybe something which we shared might have helped to trigger a thought


it doesn't necessarily reportedly from maybe something you said might have triggered door emotion ego, instead of just like being affected and feel bad about it ask yourself why what what what those jokers said made me feel bad and just


you to you try lah okay you can try lah but I don't think anyone can lah I mean like it's a romantic line she could say and say maybe I don't think that


my cousins groom meant that he should die after she dies but it sounds so cute and nice when what these realities I inside fucking quarter can be so much floor but you just spoons when it's a real exciting so it's just a question is if this


girl is going into a relationship with my cousin with so much of fluff can she take the reality can she take the storms which comes with commitment maybe she can maybe he can then, I'm not saying she cannot maybe for the cute purpose for the sake of making the vow sound very cute in front of everyone she made that lah but hopefully that's what it is but if that's her attitude if that what she really meant then I think it's cotton candy it wouldn't withstand the storms of life lah


and you see how perfectly it fits it's like cotton candy lah so anyway but you know as we're wrapping up our talk firstly a big thanks to everyone we are very grateful for


this opportunity again because again you know as we mentioned last time it's, and uh more than the cash uh it's like uh for some reason when we share and we just stop, aimlessly or at least you know it seems in the beginning we get a lot of powerful insights a lot of just as random things come up and we actually can observe each other and see oh


the beliefs of each other you know ah come out and areas that we can improve on and all that kind of stuff so you know it's a big thanks ya I mean do uh keep us posted if you're gonna do something like this in the future and (mmhmm) thank you also for the opportunity and I hope this one gets approved


okay, please please please get it approved we are young bachelors in need for money so I hope we get the payment thank you very much


eh


eh what time though why why is it closed


what uh okay, but seriously , how's your work nowadays, like


(mmhmm), tadi habis kerja today's half day


so quite lepak lah, cause saturday but, like, ah I'm just exhausted man maybe we're just getting old


, ya ada lah tapi macam ngantuk sikit you know like you know they always say when you sleep too much


you'll you'll be even more tired so macam power nap actually the minimum, the maximum kalau the best ah, twenty minutes here, then you'll gain so much strength


[kan] like I'm like I won't expect it to be twenty minutes also, then I went for a, run, I've been I've been quite active lah nowadays like, I really want to focus on losing weight, you know just building myself


and eh nak join tak #muay thai# gym together, ya, , okay since you are also a student right, uh hundred thirty eh, per month, fifty percent discount


ah throughout okay like one month, that you just book a session, like it legit, everyday you can go six days per week, no limitation and there's going to be like macam coach, like someone coaching you ah


they are gonna be there macam ada certain slots certain coaches ah, so depends and it's an all girls' gym so I think like I join cause I'm comfortable also


and, my end goal, is to, join evolve ah, yes, yes


you know you may not know until you take, risk, but ya lah I mean like, evolve after that then probably like be a PE teacher, yes dreams of course I'm old we're old man we have to need to


what do you expect, I I ran around err, the secondary school area here, ya just like, few rounds lah


and then I exercise a bit at the fitness corner I mean it's important to keep yourself healthy you know okay badminton once in a while, you know, nowadays, food, a lot of, process food


and then like you won't get to like, burn the, chemical a lot lah then end up getting cancer and all that, this important lah


what was this though the badminton, ah, ya, !whoa! I didn't know that


!wow! what, how is that possible


!wow!, !wow!, okay lah I mean it's not that tiring, if you know how to might manage your time macam okay one day badminton then one day, something I wanna do, two to three years down the road


then I can take like, until like, from there or something, ya, ya it's important it's important to have smart goals you know,


what do you mean, I usually run macam about, five to four days a week ah, so, kind of everyday but just like weekends kadang-kadang macam rest penat sangat [kan]


and I'm so taking my part time degree so, quite tiring, so whenever I've, when school starts then whenever I've, free time then I try my best to run lah, and, uh and, , you know my job, like, they, under, they will, , I mean this field is quite underpaid lah so I'm trying to find jobs that I can you know


like, secure myself financially, , maybe, two K two K plus pun jadi [seh], yours also I heard it's not two K right


(mmhmm), the internet also they want experience as I mean like I don't know how am I supposed to find a starting job to get all these experiences in a good company, that's true like singaporean nowadays they have this kind of problem I mean foreigners you know dekat


I mean it's it's common lah, but , everywhere now you go like you need experience and this you know, for people like us


without any experiences in training will be provided [kan] boleh [pe] and, training apa internship they don't even pay much so you still expect us to have experiences that this a bit too much ah honestly, but I hope I hope you do find you know job that you can be you know


stable financially you know support your parents you know that


honestly, super hard you like, about hundred percent ten per cent [jer] companies who does that, like they, they don't appreciate you they, once you do something bad, it tarnishes your whole reputation, everything your hard work all gone


[kan] susah nak dapat company yang you know really, focuses on your, you know and job progression is super important, job progression, yes sure


!wow!, that's unfair, how old is she, , she's two years younger and she's the head of your


team, !wah! that's a bit unfair, [orh] it's this happens a lot you know politics in the company and, I mean there are no, chances that, the moment you change companies I mean change jobs


it's gonna be perfect you still gonna face this kind of, issues you know work life issues and, I don't know lah this life that's, that sucks but, it's important nowadays that


company, you know take into account, I mean that's why, , MOM exist, ya so and anything complain [jer]


ya with no power to change, nothing no control over, you know this kind of things, you know, I am a student care teacher, err basically I just supervise the kids lah


you know, make sure ensure, , their safety is well taken care of hygiene, and you know we're, make sure they stick to their routine, like baca buku about homework, and then mark their assessment books


but the funny thing is, my boss said that, , they're not academically inclined, but, when the kid, read books, at certain timing, they get scolded, because their assessment books are, incomplete


like you say you want them to rest you just focus on discipline macam tak kisah dorang buat apa but then, a moment later you're there changing the, there was oh kena buat assessments lah apa lah


the student care and, when you, eat also you wanna talk, you can't


homework, like,


exactly, student care, care, for a reason right need to care, for their well-being macam okay I get it you care for their well-being you feed them, you you know you them macam shelter but


and because you drink water already just now so like you have to stay in the room for an hour without drink water without any toilet breaks, yup and you do homework


and there's no nap time, they know the the funny thing is they know the timetable, and they know what they have been doing


but, I know right my company the withdrawal rate is quite high ah maybe because of that you know kids complain macam eh penat you know I don't want to go student care anymore , torturing so, a lot of people, quitting lah actually like one month macam about seven, a lot


that's the thing, ya and I can't even laugh with them, I can't even, talk to them, I need to scold every time they can't even will sit macam you know sit like


like, , yes they have to sit macam you know upright sit properly, in all the time


that's the thing you just imagine yourself in student care


can you imagine


I mean like no one to control you and all that you just do your own things your parents don't force it upon you I mean we do get guidance, but it's more of a freedom of choice, we were allowed to make, choices, and now we become adults


who knows how to make, spoon feed around and then like they grow up becoming like, okay what do I do now, was that a routine no, you know that kind of thing, okay lah I mean like this generation is different from back then


okay how about your job scope, I wanna know, it's okay just tell me


oh ya I did oh my god I miss her so much , her wedding okay she just move out recently, and ah I met man the house so so empty, and , so dapat dapat jumpa dia sekejap dapat dapat ubat rindu you know you know


and ya lah, she dah dah dah dah dah ada suami so lupa lah, and all that ya , but, I don't know I'm happy for her


ya that's like, I mean like, nowadays , you know when you find a soulmate you know you just, you just


it's important to go with the flow you know, like, not forced upon it, not, find it you know once you stop finding for it then things, come, ya that kind of thing , but I heard you and your


your boyfriend has been together for, for years right, how long eh how long eh, , oh my, god


oh my god that's really sweet, oh that's true


no, I don't, eh, every once a week


oh my god that's sweet, ah , but then my ex, err previously, he don't even remember, ya, so, I think he's called ex for a reason, ,


, is it but are you the clingy type of person or like


I see


okay okay but like, I mean, Mashallah I mean like, you know last long you know till, till married so wait okay, K, , now I need to ask you important question, when, where is


when can I be a godma,


, okay lah I mean like we are still young and he is also still young he is in NS right so you get your freedom now, I mean get your own space get your own time get to talk to me


okay lah take your time take your time, ya that's true, you know , life has no template they say, you know, there's no schedule so, go with the flow


oh I love that, I need to write that's, a perfect quote, me and my family okay, I don't know eh I mean like I'm so used to being the second child


and like you know there no responsibilities we still have eh have fun and enjoy and when then now that, my older sister is gone, like, they're relying on me, so, I I think I have to be the bigger person right now but I'm still coping cause I don't know how


I don't know I'm really I'm lost, but, okay lah slowly slowly maybe I get to learn stuff, but I'm still at a stage whereby, , I focus on myself a lot, and I'm scared that, you know I might, I might


lose, the responsibility, I mean like , how about that okay, give me some tips, since you are the older child


oh man, I saw this post and they said that


, the first child, and then and gradually the second third child right it, it kind of, ya pass off so, but at the same time you you are nurtured


, , how to say not perfect but then, better better than the second and, third lah, so that's why like I'm lost right now but then you are the eldest we're like okay okay I get this right I get that right, so ya lah are the pros and cons, but


I I hope you know your brothers you know we learn from you you know as a role model because I look up to you also, , , , cringe,


, that's true


that's true, and no wonder I'm friends with you, , okay talking about sweet right, I scared leh I scared of diabetes


, when you buy buang air kecil [kan] then like there's ends, then like, then like, there is signs of you, that get, like, how to say macam , in my family punya history


my my grandma is both sides grandma my, my grandpa macam semua ada this history of, diabetic, don't you takut [seh] say like you know I'm young and you know I love peach tea I love you know, his deserts you


of course, but, have you heard of it the, ants


oh my, I'm sorry, the heart the sugar intake is quite high lah


but, okay the thing I am confused about right, like, they say it's not the sugar but it's actually the carbo, because it's, okay like okay, basically if you are, diabetic right you have to eat low GI food, glycemic index, glycemic index and high glycemic index comes from rice


white rice, so I am like oh okay jap white bread is high, white rice high okay where is the sugar that's that's the thing people get confused about sugar or, carbs, and then I I went to research about it, actually it's true, like


rice is the cause of it, and you know like, things that are that are easily processed, but you if you eat whole grain, is lower, lower GI so that you, , the sugar tends to break down slower so that


insulin tak pakai banyak even insulin is working perfectly, to combat the sugar, except for white rice and, , then you think we are malays is in we eat, okay like, rice is a staple food for us


that's the thing kuah lemak apa ah cholesterol oh my god okay there's so much things we have to take care of


I mean I don't mind eating salad, but, the options, I mean you can get back that at subway at what eight dollars for salad


we we can buy that for what one dollar than the sauce kita beli like ten dollar but then, you save so much


that's true beli like banyak then after that simpan in the fridge , one to two days, !wah! this is, is quite hard


ya that's true, I mean I've seen a lot of people you know having hard time coping that's why you know like, nutritionist exist to macam lead them


like why can't you just love is free yes, okay love is free, err love pun susah dapat like, I think like we're at that age, where everything is just hard, is it a twenty two, no no no


twenty two curse


that's true and parents nowadays also working abeh balik dah tidur you know that kind of thing


her, grandfather, ah abandoned him dekat bus stop dekat malaysia, and then drove back home, and left him there


malaysia lah, singapore, ah dia tinggalkan ah dia letak bag suruh orang lain jaga tak tahu siapa ah


intention, yes they don't want to take responsibility for him, and then they receive a phone call from the dad the dad call another lah his son lah another son


, then went there, and nampak bapa dia dekat old folks home, and he said the father said okay me home lah then then they say like oh it's okay we come next week


again because it's late, they went back, and their father pass away, the father say it's okay I can live in your store room also, the father pass away


ya that's true macam you know, maybe the financially dorang tak boleh handle the debt, or just maybe tired you know nowadays banyak macam drama drama you know, typical but I didn't know you know this kind of thing exist in real life I always watch it in TV macam oh ni ya allah tak baik [seh]


but ya it does exist, and you know the kid is traumatised because of what's happening you know this kind of thing all affect, the the kids ya, the kids now the kids ada sekarang trauma issues


you know,


that's true that's true, I mean like, you wouldn't realise that you actually following your parents but then because if they watching it all your life and is this rooted in you, you know and, there's such thing called karma, so you treat your parents like that your your son your daughters gonna treat same thing same way you treat your parents so ya that's why I'm scared I really had to take care of my parents not because it's not just because of karma


ya lah they've taken care of me well apa kecil-kecil kasi makan this a way for us to repay back


, that's true macam it it, safety is vector, but it's actually quite good leh, because, doing this kind of thing it helps her reduce the dementia punya chances


of , you know, the occurring the occurrence of, dementia, so ah, how old is she now, but the around


(oo), I think more the the the the over sixty five lah


definition of, lepak or relaxing at her old age, you know just having the freedom to go out you know like breathe I I mean like if I'm her also I will, no fresh air I'll be like


lonely at least we go out where you'll get to people watch you know, just watch people walk, and, I I enjoy people watching honestly so I can relate to your grandma,


(oo) that I like the question


I, think [kan] I would, probably would love, love, to, just, , around, okay ah, paris area, london because, I don't know macam singapore, is it so rushing


everyone is rushing to get here to get coffee only ni semua nak merebut lah but then, I have heard a lot of people saying that, you know if you really want to chill chill mango pergi dekat paris, just duduk minum kopi and you, the rest of them are chilling as well


I want that kind of environment you know just to experience, being chillax you know , ya lah but that's my goal lah, just, ya you how about you


like literally you know


there's something very intriguing about, their culture the way they relax I don't know, I feel like singapore just need to chill a bit lah, it's just too fast pace but, pace I mean we're we're successful to certain extent macam economy !wah! jangan cakap ah


but, ya lah, , and like, you know the population pun sekarang macam a lot of older generation as compared to know like like, people like us, so I feel like it's


quite important to just, kind of chill, and take a step back, but you know who are we to control [kan]


I mean it's not weird I mean, it's valid, for you to feel that way because, if me I wouldn't be able to, cope with five kids, I mean rezeki tu okay lah there's rezeki tu datang dari very you know, god but like, I don't know and, okay if you are in the country or if you're wealthy it's a different thing but then we are in singapore you know


five times five, if I have a high paying job I don't mind, but then what, what are the odds you know you don't know, and, five kids is a lot


a lot to juggle I can't even handle like one, crying baby, why, how


we're like that okay, but, I feel like ya I mean like if you have, something to work towards to, I mean you get motivated what, in certain way, but, to me macam house work is not an issue, I mean I would love to have a maid lah I've never been living with a maid before macam sedap [kan] ada orang kemaskan you and all that


but, it all, comes back to being success successful in the end, she's now why we have to pay ourself, are you planning to take any courses in the future I mean like apart from your specialist diploma, like degree or something


the fees and everything is it, which uni are you looking at, SMU


I mean that's good lah, planning is, everything, honestly I mean like, you don't just, go macam okay err go with the flow macam go with the flow sangat you know, like, eh okay, but like, ya lah, I mean like


so you took one year gap, ya, oh I took a one year gap also, you didn't know after graduation I took a one year gap, ya we did we both did I remember, it's like, okay to me macam one year gap is quite productive leh like you just take one year to just


think about what you want


actually that's true I mean like you wasted a year, and when your friends are all like progressing already and then you are one year back, so and when that one year gap makes you lazy actually, makes you very lazy it's because, momentum dah hilang tau hilang graduate


so macam if if you were just to continue and break that one year gap I think we will be more successful but things happens for a reason so ya we are where we are, meant to be, that's why I believe lah so that


I mean if you keep thinking about the one year gap you get depressed eventually, because like you will regret, ya


oh man why didn't you reach out to me, we were have been talking for what seven years and you didn't know I took a one year, gap come on, no I, after I graduated, I work okay


then I, kept up


do they work part time also, I didn't know that, I didn't know that at all, so where do you get the money from, you need like, that's the thing I know you were good at savings I know you had like, !wah! a lot of saving so you were have been using your savings during that one year gap


pro, pro, pro, oh my, god okay okay but not to make you depressed or anything it's okay it's okay things happens for a reason I mean you are not where you are right now, if it wasn't because of the one year gap


you might have been in uni, and you are struggling you will never know, I feel like you, you are successful you you just don't know that, , you don't know I mean now you have so much experience, and uni look at that you know


I mean like they really look at experience you know what have you been doing since you graduated they focus on that


ya that's true and I heard that SMU is a good school, they didn't get accepted in uni but they work then after that they apply again and they get, they got in because of the work experience so I feel like you have higher chances of


getting, the SMU punya , intake, but Inshallah, I mean like you can I can lah I have known you for seven years you're so hardworking, , I mean uni hard is going to be hard I mean you need hard like uni life is gonna be hard


but ya lah you can manage your time well, , so, I feel like you can lah, and SMU is good because you are taking full time right, answer me, what what what which course are you planning to get


I mean you just mainly just look at your major what minor you can choose later cause major okay what marketing is it what, what which part, so minor I mean you can minor in apa organisational behaviour right those type of thing right


ya, I think minor minor in business or what, minor is just, literally the word minor is minor, the major one is a major, you get what I mean, ya so, but marketing is


on demand nowadays, right, and, healthcare also, I mean like you can market, but under healthcare what, why not


oh ya I forgot, doctor times, okay, ya but I have heard about it, eh I'm but I'm planning to, I'm planning to, going under healthcare also, like under social work


now after this feel cause I'm tired of teaching, just tired of, watching kids suffering, so maybe I will get back to it later, you know you know I'll just explore and, this is the thing I heard you know I don't like when people generalise , us, as job hoppers


ya I mean like it's hard to change one's mind also we can only change our minds, so they are going to continue looking us as job hoppers, but, to me, I mean depends ah on the situation kalau nak job hop just because oh you can't take it anymore that's a different thing but if you want a job hope to get experience you know different fields


why not macam you're still young you need to know what you really want in life kalau tak experience macam mana [seh], like you know you just going to be stuck, you know mundane for the rest of your life, I'm, but, it's just, it's just not how our generation works nowadays you know we need to find what we love to actually


progress betul-betul macam you know be successful, ya that's why passion is important to me


how is it possible, is it a typo or what


but, okay lah I mean there are so many expectations of us, I'm not, try to, I mean there is, people our age


like with so many macam experience and really capable , but, you know some people are the weaknesses some people have the different strengths, and, I mean don't


middle lah macam , borderline you know that kind of thing, so I really hope that one day we will find the jobs, we were really passionate about lah


that's true macam like, okay like they get into jobs they like right they work they have progression and all that, in singapore, because all those movies are, always based on other other countries you know


I don't know like, okay like, sometimes I do have thoughts macam if we want to be like, overseas you know working overseas will we be success more successful like oh, you know as compared to in singapore


, you get what I mean, ah okay okay this now is a fun topic okay I don't know where but I like ah rom com


you know romantic comedy, those kind and I like thrills also thrills movies, ya so anything that keeps my adrenaline you know rush because I'm an adrenaline junkie, how are you


, , , so what type like, like usually you Netflix


!wow!, !wow! I barely have time for that , do you watch modern family, oh my god you should watch you should watch it's funny, oh is it good, it's funny


it's it's cute, okay okay


is it okay I didn't know that I mean like I always, oh I mean I I've seen, everyone like posting about stranger things, but like okay lah I I might watch it one day but you should watch modern family, it's hilarious


hilarious, okay but if you watch modern family with someone, it's funnier, then watching alone probably like uh, okay lah funny but eh quite boring, not boring, but like it's, nicer with someone


exactly and I'm single as hell


oh that's so sweet, I mean I wanna watch but I don't wanna get stuck, on on it you know, like people play like among us


but like I don't, I really want to try but I don't want to get stuck on it


is it a hype or is it just for a while


I see okay, that make sense, but I can see you is the type of person who can control you know you have, quite, a decent self control punya tolerance but me , I can't like I don't have self control


it's over for me so I tend I tend to macam you know prevent from this kind of thing like okay ya maybe let me indulge with healthier thing that's why I'm joining like #muay thai# gym , know things that, you know are healthy, and , ya I don't mind spending, , over


time on it, alright oh my god it sounds like a plan, okay, it's been long since I start playing you know, games, and ya lah I mean like


we are twenty two what do you, expect, we rarely oh my god did you overcook, it's because it's so hard


is it okay which one the the older one or, eh the younger one, eh wait wait wait wait, the, the youngest, oh are you serious, you don't play with the second one, I see boring


but, ya lah I, I mean I love PS four, but overcook is fun


that's true that's true, I mean but, ya lah I mean


I'm trying my best to not spend, not spend on stuff that are unnecessary I mean like, there's a lot of things I wanna do I wanna shop you know I wanna shop for facial stuff makeup, because


I feel like overspending I won't be able to save, in the future, do you invest in anything


I see eh wait where does he where macam mana dia invest, on so every month


I see but how much does he save per month, and for fifteen years ah then macam ada you will get back like a lump sum


and in case if you were to macam touch wood lah macam pass away or anything like, you will get, more, than what you save, hundred K, I mean it's quite, reassuring lah to know that


ya so I feel like you should you should invest on, I mean I can I can like brief you through it lah, like, all these investment and all that kind of stuff


it's really productive okay, we should


uh ah, I think


work from home, so everything is at home so, that's why lah I decided to actually go out to eat


oh I didn't know it's only twenty minute, cause I would think that it's like two hours


#muay thai#


is not going to be there all the time [kan]


, !wow!


!wah! best nya ada dreams


[orh]


it's very tiring lah


this is during my secondary school time


I quit choir, to join badminton, and then I was in the girl's team, ya and then , I join competition, but do you that I only, I didn't actually fight with anyone like you know be in a match, and I already secured myself second place


ya exactly, err (hmm) apparently it's possible lah


!whoa!, that's a very, defined goal, in your life, stand


one other days in this one is like what everyday, like do this, everyday or like just certain days


no it's not two K it's very little actually I think it's because, the funny part is [kan], when I search for jobs they actually want, people with experiences even though it's a, let's let's say it's a intern job, the intern job also they want experiences I mean like I don't know how am I supposed to find


a starting job to get all these experiences, in a good company


actually, what I look for in a job [kan] it's not just financial stability, but more of like, I want to be in a in a company that, err that actually appreciates you for what you do


nowadays, especially in start ups, they, just literally, if this, job or experience is worth it because you are doing bits and pieces of everything


that's why I like I'm finding a job that actually, values, like, their employees ah that's very hard for me to find


my god, can I say something, so [kan], err I was hired, and I have, like a, specialist diploma, err diploma girl


her job scope changed her from doing graphic design to digital marketing and you know what's worse, she is the head of my team you know when she is younger, and no experience and I've been in that company for six months


so I feel like shit you know like honestly because, like I have the qualities like honestly I'm doing really well like


she gets the job like as a head you know and everything semua I buat tau, teach the marketing, how to even do like a video thing you know like I cannot lah


and she's not hired for it but, she's getting paid more you know like I'm getting way lesser and she's, I don't know it's it's damn weird, she's twenty


ya, yes


that's true, let's let's not talk about this topic lah let's just uh move on because like I find, this type of uh topic [kan] like, it will never end


so what do you do now, like, what's your job scope


wait, so, you, telling me that, they don't really get, like the care like in that sense pasal they are only thinking about assessment academic, and then


like, while you're eating all these, how are they going to interact and then like, build on the social aspect, because I think the student care is there is to like, also like help them


not just academically lah, but more of like, mingling around with others, then if they can't do that then what will you do


this is going on


ya lah


so I guess they're trying to mould them into, being this type of, perfect person, but, because, ya like I said, how is, that gonna help them in a long run because


you will totally be affected by this and traumatised maybe, you know send me to student care


ya, best gila [seh], you know


so, ah lah, my job scope, no lah just do bits and pieces of everything, ya lah, so, yesterday


you keluar dengan kakak you [kan]


!wah!, like she's having a lot of fun [jer], very sweet lah I find


ya, actually, like, this christmas [kan], anniversary, like literally on christmas, because ya he, he like, ask me out on christmas


like it's on a christmas, a bit a bit weird lah like, but then it's like a reason to celebrate lah macam bukan celebrate christmas tapi more of like, anniversary


[orh], [orh], we every month actually, celebrate the, like we literally go all out like we go eat expensive food


ya , !huh!


that is horrible actually, okay lah my boyfriend, okay okay [jer] lah, I think he's sweet, , clingy, is the word for it


I think I'm the type, who, likes being clingy but I also have, to have the time alone, like to, to just get the energy back, I'm I'm, too used back then lah to be alone like being with friends, so when I was with him


when he was clingy I feel like, I'm being controlled, ya


ah nak makan nasi eh, godma lama lagi !oi!, belum apa-apa dah nak godma


ya that's true, I mean like


hopefully, ya, I agree with that everyone has their own timeline


, so, like, how is, you and your family


actually, being the


eldest, like very susah like, you want to know why, they really like instill this list of, a list of responsibilities that I have to follow, then


like, they always me you have to lead, so like everything lah like academically wise, so that my brothers can, like follow the right path, ya and then my, brother's PSLE just came out


like, ya, and, like, ya it's it's, different lah like you can see, like as the years goes by my parents don't really care


about like, academic, like not as, how it used to be for me


!wow!, okay lah like kalau you nak tips [kan] I will say


you have to take, the scolding, like, just take it with a pinch of salt, like you are who you are so


, , ah, so sweet,


(uh huh)


actually have lah my my mother ada kata sikit like last time, a sign lah actual, , ya but then he ended up passing away


, ya when I was young, so I think what you can do [kan] is, , ah


!aduh!


so kalau gitu nak kena makan apa [seh], salad [jer]


like rosak [kan] you you call it, the nutrition, nutrition site, is not there, then how are you going to make sure like the money that you spend on is worth


especially if you buy a lot at one go, ya


I think, it's a lot of work, like there's so many things you cannot juggle at one time, and for those who cannot multitask or or like, plan the days where a weeks well, confirm will have a hard time coping


I don't know anything about the twenty two curse, but then, I feel like


everything, it's not free lah, in the end, you have to work hard for it even if it's, small little things, even like let's say happiness within family, you have to work hard


to put in time effort even money, like sometimes I feel to have the happiness in family can have to work but then you work when you working how you gonna have time for family so really balance everything, sometime I feel, to have the happiness in family [kan] you have to work but then you work when you working how you gonna have time for family, so, really balance is everything


!huh!, bus stop


don't want to take responsible for him, that is, really cruel


but I think like


there must be some problems within the family, like rooted deep inside their family in order for this to happen


you tahu tak yang like, how you treat your parents is how you're teaching your your kids to treat you, I find that very, crazy lah macam it's a wild thing but then


like, like when we grow old, like you know because my mum's


mother, so with my grandma on my mum side, I kind of, so if anything happens siapa nak jagakan dia [seh], that we won't even know


so nowadays I've been trying to like, telephone dia ask her how is she all these like, just some simple talks, and she's, she refuse to stay at home, like she's


she has, has she has been going out, like, literally like working studying all these kind of stuff, she's too used to walking out, so like


then she, usually hari minggu gitu lah dia kerja like, because of corona then like, the, so she, like weekday she don't actually, but then she still go out


what the heck, , like, your leg


actually I, sixty to seven no tak lah, seventy to eighty, around


CPF eh I don't know how old, which CPF ah, ya yes, ya she, like


you work your whole entire life, you know, some more she stay alone tak akan lah want to work so hard also


and like not like, like kita punya families semua jaga [kan], for her, I think


then


scenery


you, you know what's funny, even, I find, like you know those bricks, I will take photos of those bricks, an err we like !whoa!


, like I don't know I I think like, the culture there is different okay lah dorang racists from what I heard, they are racists tapi macam their culture like how they move is like very free, very simple, like


I don't even like, tea is not my thing, but then I I, keep thinking about UK it's like, oh ya the ferris wheel the houses, the tembok tembok tembok bricks, there's something that is


calling out to me, true lah


that's true, now that, economy, depends on them also, and I think


birth rate, we cannot do anything about it lah, I mean, I have seen, would this be something I would want, in the future, they look like


they're struggling, like, you look at these families, and then you like, they they really like


like, are they doing well, like, especially when you see them, in public, you wonder about their well being, is it weird that I think that way


but I think, , you can see like they're, they're okay, like the kids are like happy and everything I think a a big happy family is, something, I would want in the future honestly


rely on, maid, I I think like, in the future right okay, the thing that is driving me to work hard [kan]


is that, I don't have in the future if I don't work work well, I can just get a maid, is that weird, like, so I've been living with a maid


so like if, I have that taken away from me, I don't know how to cook I don't how to clean, so if I have kids in the future


, hopefully I can get into a university, I have been, for now tengah cari kerja nak sustain


financially, ya


ya, hopefully SMU ah like, ya, actually I have, find all these like, but I do have a, plan in mind


maybe that's why I, you know took a break, I, I took like a one year break, before I start, working


you have to know, so, good thing that actually found something that I want to try out, in that area


ya, I also


that one year right, cause a snowball effect to tau tu pasal I, university, and then, I here waiting one more year to start on my degree


is that weird


I malam-malam [kan], that one year gap, like, put in effort to really go all out [kan], I would have been so much happier


I do feel depressed when I think of it, and it makes me sad, I didn't know you took a one year break also, ya I thought you were studying or working


november [jer] [pe] you know, I, didn't do anything I tunggukan boyfriend [jer]


like literally, no, I bet you didn't know that, ya, my savings I used to have savings


that's true


that's what I've been looking at, like to get my experiences and maybe use that as one of the factors to why they should, accept me to the university lah


!wow!, thank you


ya, that's the thing I don't know how to look at their courses, like I know what I want to do but I don't know like you know this, honours thing and then what minor, I perlukan pertolongan lah in that area


I hoping to get marketing, ya


ya lah


like, seriously, just because we have many experiences with different companies


like, okay like it also depends on the company they how they think, you have a lot of experiences, in that sense, you can help the company, the future company, in all these, areas, like maybe to improve you know, better


you know like I don't know like turn over rate, like lesser or something you know like, it's hard lah, to to know how does the hiring works


like I kata tadi like, even intern job dorang minta experiences, they are not okay with


is, categorised under job hoppers, so how are you supposed to be like a, graduate, with already experiences, like let's say they are looking for, did you see this advertisement job advertisement, they say they want someone in the twenties


but with like ten years of experience, ya that it was like going around in on the internet for awhile like, they ask so you boleh imagine tak like, you expect to be like, ten plus like in your teens, and already start working or something


I have no idea


that's one of my wish, that's one of my wish lah in life like, I just want to have a job, that I'm happy to wake up to, I think, it's really hard to find


it's also depends on your mentality, how you have, like what's your outlook of life, which, is hard to change honestly


that's a very good question actually tapi [kan] talking about movies


illegal , illegal movies I don't know lah no lah it's not illegal it's more of like they uploaded on internet let let's say I come upon to it you know, and then I'll be interested in it and then, you know I've I've watch all the, conjuring series


ya, no I don't, stranger things, it's good


like okay like in in my, in my, it's it's, they're kids, so they're cute, like, like what they do is like something we can, relate to


I think everything is nicer with someone else, it's okay you'll, you akan jumpa jodoh you juga trust me, god has, plans for you


confirm, I can see, I can foresee you being happy in the future lah, so, okay back, to stranger things, okay tengok lah


but, what, caught me caught my attention until like


at first okay I think they will start because of the hype, then you get the fun out of it because, you kind of have this friendship with them so like it's more of like


quit the game because, you have friends, to be there for you already, so like if you cut, the game out your life [kan], you're cutting


I akan tolong you, ya


I, on my PS four, overcome, I


the younger one, youngest, ah dia tak main lah dia main FIFA


I rasa that you should, invest


in a game, like like literally okay let's, you don't have to buy a PS four you can buy a switch, I think that's, the easier way that you save money, eventually if you were to play play nation all the time


I tak invest I tak buat investment tapi my boyfriend does it, I wasted that money duit tu [jer] pakai untuk investment abeh dia tak ada duit untuk macam spend


the invest on, UOB , ya he's he's hoping to get dividends tapi like he spends a lot, rely on dividends


actually I not so sure


okay [lah]


, so basically , the whole thing was just about meeting this guy guy and err so err


the whole premise is, he just needs to be very upfront and truthful about who he is and what he does and everything lah about his life so, true enough lah he is a very uh forthcoming and upfront person so that


is already an uh up point for him lah you know in in in trying to understand this whole situation (ppc) that is how they want to proceed, so, number one err it was very easy and simple for me to just ask about his name and full name it wasn't very macam like uh abang why you asking for my name no ah upfront telling and then even talking about his job he just explain that he used to he is in the police force and then he used to work in err


Changi airport, , and that Changi airport is what we thought it was lah to actually look out for suspicious characters and all that


ya, that's why lah but of course there's that connotation lah [kan] tapi it's not it's not really, that's why she's so she's so secretive she's so like unsure she's so she she probably receive it but don't know how to express it that's the problem and this is something she has to grow from it lah


that's why she gets a earful from me about it and then so now he is uh working at uh Novena HQ and he is there because uh he wants to do office work and rightfully so lah because he wants to uh spend more time lah with your family


uh and, since he has going to move towards, getting married uh he thought this the right step ah as opposed to shift work, which makes sense and it's it's very sound lah in why he's doing it okay then he talk about


okay they know each other for two years, two year they know each other for two years, know of each other for two years only got serious for one year, ya so that is the whole thing okay ah this one ah oh every time I do as in ah like


was it so difficult to ah get this out, so ah dia suka dia suka in the couch we are all sitting at the couch I was sitting at this side of the couch


he was sitting here abah was sitting at a chair that I brought for him I got Zina to sit right beside me, the mirror the mirror side


ah middle side ya facing the living room ya it's in the, so ah what else okay so I I


ah that one I didn't get to ask but that one is tak tak mai~ important lah ya, so the other ah important part was about his job experience lah so he did confirm his five years then I ask him can you explain to me what how did he get to five years then he explain lah actually he was doing national service but he was waiting for he apa the the sign on agreement and it it it only came after POP and also that's how he got disrupted he had to go through the whole BMT process at police again


ah okay that makes sense then that makes sense with the timeline and he say he just finished his fifth year of of his bond this year


ah that one that one also he shared with me about the retention bonus and all that, ah, clear I ask him okay you know do you have contact uh do you have connect plan that's he look at me like uh what was that then I say like do you get certain bonuses for like certain number of years oh we call those retention bonus and he mentioned another bonus


so and and then he said lah ya ah six years seven years and then after that fifteen years and ah okay, that's why exactly that's why I say


this boy being very upfront helps the situation so that's why me and abah were very calm about it tak ada macam problematic so I spoke to them about the video thing I spoke to them that eh


ah so he told they he explain they both okay the reason why they rush for it was ah number one ah apa there was this timeline that they wanted to apply because if they don't apply they wouldn't get it at the place that they are looking for which is near their near his parents' place and then dia tinggal #pasir ris#


because dekat the parents place #pasir ris#


ya lah but I don't know why they want that place lah anyway so, I told them okay this could have been done better this could have been managed better don't you think that you would have this is my advice and this is what I


this is this could have been boleh fikirkan cara yang lebih baik lah [kan] which is to


ah then he just he just nodded lah he he understood uh but I was still macam thinking eh do you are you apologetic or not about your your mistake here ah but I think it's in between lah it's in between that apologetic but also macam like okay


ah he did he think that because he his mindset is if let's say he gets it and this couldn't be done he can just cancel, so his from his stand is like no harm no foul can cancel what begitu I say it's not about that lah it's about you informing do it properly


correct ya, so ya so that that part they understood lah you know what it's it's spilt milk ready lah [kan] like there's no point to talk about it it's not something they can change in the future the only thing that they can change right now like I said to them is


from now on you both need to be very upfront, inform both sides on what you want to do so that both sides are better equipped, ah then I then I also talk to them lah like okay want then I want to hear what is his plan abah also want to hear what is his apa dia punya rancangan lah


then it was very clear rancangan is that, and then


that's why lah, that's why that's why I say I just want to hear him talk Zina whenever Zina butts in I was like I just wanna hear you talk and then err


the guy was saying ya so there's that and then probably meeting up the parents that means his parents to come and meet abah probably in december so that they give them some at least a few months before the engagement lah


the nikah would be in twenty twenty two end of twenty twenty two, ah revise plan ah ah correct


ah I also don't want to embarrass lah Zina cause like I said it could have been easily a bashing Zina session but no point lah the point is to hear what he want what he's saying and whether it makes sense and whether this is the correct plan to go ahead with


ah then okay then at least say that gives proper time lah for you to both look at how you gonna plan this then I say then the abah was saying you know Zina just got, err just finish studying jadi apa the plan in these two years for for her uh then this Azram cakap oh ya uh this is to would be


for Zina to actually ah secure a job, ya because he and then he explained it before before I even need to talk about macam like the financial burden because he said ya definitely it's not enough just for me Zina also needs to work to build up a CPF


that's why, so it's like okay at least he knows lah that's why that's why I say it's very it's very easy, that's why it's very easy because he seems to know the have a plan and he seems to okay so that's why macam it was a easy session because he was very clear and very direct and it was simple tak payah tak ada complication


so then okay good so you know that ya you both need to be working lah and you Zena needs to build her CPF and then I spoke to him also saying that you have work for five years you know right there is value in having a work experience Zena hasn't gotten that yet so she needs to at least have one year of proper work experience


then they said ya the plan is for Zina to, work so that she build her CPF and then they also talk about children ah then say then their plan is after getting married they don't want to have children for at least two to three years


to build themselves up first then after that they can decide on settling down with children okay good that that that is a solid plan, ah that one okay lah they bring about the halal thing lah so I was saying that yes I understand where you coming from but look at the the situation right now


ya Zina needs to do some growing and then like I said and you both need to, and I and I pun cakap dengan dia lah that, you


grow up


grew up together, ah so you need give that time untuk you both nak kena grow up ah that's the thing budak itu diam [jer] so I tak puas hati because like you can just be numb about this whole thing lah that is a which is uh quite good as you're gonna either you don't absorb or you not receiving or you rejecting so many things that can happen right just because you're keeping quiet so after that abah is there something you want to uh anything you want to ask them uh I said ya so ah let me check in so


Ashraf you've heard from my advice that I gave just now and you heard about all the other advice at my dad has gave also


and then, ah come together to grow, so what is your take on that do you agree do you disagree or what is your perception, ah then they say


okay for me I uh I feel that


so it's like if he lah in the sense that ah so so I said okay I think you both, not just growing up, a bit a bit like that but also but also he's trying that uh growing up takes place both lah during single and when you get married so I said then okay then the next thing is for you guys to set out a plan on how you gonna go about this ah so I made it very clear that don't just lip service dia perlu perbincangan further you guys need to communicate I told them you guys need to communicate this further need to talk about how you gonna plan this out and then when I say communicate abah dengar ini tak mahu communicate communicate like tak boleh nak jumpa jumpa abah there's nothing wrong with communicate I said so I think they got it lah so now it's about them solidifying this by putting out a plan


then after the whole session also I told Zina and even just now I texted saying that


so, of course lah, of course I'm not macam blind to this ah


(mmhmm)


anyway I, so ya then I told him okay Ashraf after all that's been said ah I will let you know that I do appreciate that you come here up here it tells a lot okay being upfront


with us counts for a lot, okay that's why for now okay moving forward you guys both need to be very upfront about what you want to proceed with so that clear for both parties and it makes the whole process a lot easier


ya lah I said you have, I didn't say sembunyi-sembunyi lah I say you have to be upfront you cannot you cannot you know be quiet about things you have to inform


then, so basically that's it lah and then, at least it's it's clear lah that they have, at least he has his plan but, I observe from the


body gesture and how he interact with Zina he is very firm he's just firm lah it's that not say very firm lah but it's firm macam whatever zina macam nak nak tanya ah Ashraf right do you want water then he will just say


no he will just use, very macam he won't just he won't say oh it's okay Zina he he won't, like, so I can see ah and the way he speaks also is macam very direct and very


ya can see he will be the one leading the the marriage lah, ya, so


ya, ya so it's not macam so as as ambiguous as it was lah at least it's kind of macam very clear at least they have a plan at least they are aware that they need to ah give Zina time to work ah give Zina time to develop


sister is working as a librarian but at Changi


Changi business apa Changi ah ya that one ya that one warehouse lah ya so, ya so it's was very easy lah then after when he left also I was telling lah see how easy and simple Ashraf


was, by just being upfront, no Zina you have to learn you have to be proactive okay you will have to be proactive


be upfront and be proactive you cannot everything you don't know I think cannot, you want to be married you have to be proactive, ya lah so basically that that kind of like eases up the conversation and we adjourn to the dining (ppc) to eat


(ppc) then abah abah is the kind where if he's, interested in someone he will have lengthy conversations and then after that abah like talk about so many things from people to world views to politics


ya no can see that okay abah is comfortable with him already, ya so, like my ah that's why it was very simple lah because, at first this guy already you can see right has at least some work experience and some knowledge about how you know a bit about adult working life at least that lah [kan]


so and he also can recognize lah the value in it and can recognise why you know Zina needs to have that, and ya that's why he also decide that Zina needs to work


ya but the arrangement is where do you get married and they settled down to have children two to three years time Zina would be the one taking care of it, Ashraf ah because uh, someone needs to be there at home lah he he's not gonna depend on like


his parents or Zina'S parents to take care of the child you know someone needs to work he will be working lah and then I then I ask him so uh are you exploring the possibility of Zina working part time then he say ya if she can work from home then that's fine


okay okay then to me, ah that's something that they will have to macam resolve lah how but at the very least they are giving Zina time to grow,


okay lor then after then the, in the dining, uh, ya so that's why it was very it was a lot easier to to actually address all these things because, clear lah clear and upfront


and then ya like I said I got the full name got the wage it's been ah apa been attached to for the three months, ah it was okay normal not not that macam overly zealous also like


ya he was also upfront say that ah the past uh he has yet to have the chance to go for jumaat players, ever since COVID like macam basically he's just trying to share lah like you know it this is the situation for him also cause we were talking about this


the the we were talking about it wasn't like macam he just brought up we were talking about jumaat prayers and then we were sharing, different different things, so ya to me it's it's it's simple


ah actually after that was a lot more interest lepas itu lagi interesting, for example,


Hidayah okay you you got two different daughters abah cakap apa different both are daughter yes both are your daughters tapi there are two different girls two different daughters, okay


then zina pun add in ah ya but she says she wants to get married ya memang dia nak tapi is she proactive looking no what she is not if she proactive looking she would have brought up some suitors uh


no she is not proactively looking she is just if it comes it comes she's not proactively looking for it, !huh!


Zina is receiving Dayah is not there yet


then abah let me give you some advice, if you nak di to even


like she has to be the one working and then this guy is not working ah ah, then is mama say ya but this guy anytime he he he's well educated anytime he can


because he actually err apa he has worked for many years and he doesn't want to work anymore so he with all the wealth he accumulated he bought a house and he started to sewakan rumah ini so his earnings from the rental ya but the point is


Dayah at is at this stage of her life


that's why I say cari orang berkualiti berkualiti is not just about,


so we don't know that lah !huh!


so I said right now it seem that dayah memang belum lagi bersedia kalau abah nak carikan fine tapi cari berkualiti this if people are not are ada quality and I said pada abah it's not about social status it's not about macam kaya tak kaya ya it's about the dia nak kena match ah


basically this this guy ya


that's why, so oh anyway going back to Zina I I told Zina like, you need to sit down and you really need to uh, figure out the plan on how you gonna


plan it out


fair enough lah if he uh considered , cause he then I say uh I, he ya of course then he cause he come down like first he I said oh I got to know I started off the conversation with him I got to know uh semalam that err you you are Ashraf then I was thinking okay how is it macam mana dia akan menerima ini ah cara eh


ya he was very comfortable and just calling me abang ah like if macam dia Satay ada banyak ya then abang also can bring back the, so I thought err ya that's why it was easy lah macam abang pun cakap and because like I said


uh, okay lah I thought macam the


ah Azlina Azlina need to macam grow up lah on this


I I address to her you see how simple it was you need to learn to be proactive like how Ashraf is, because I I'm trying to point to our since you admire so much this person and you're macam like then at least pick up the good attributes that he has lah correct or not if you cannot pick it up from me then pick it up from someone else whatever just pick it up I said I said just pick it up what Ashraf has did did you see or not how Ashraf did it


I told her lah did you see or not what Ashraf did


ah you just have to be upfront [jer] [kan] senang and ya lah ya ya you need to wake up okay you need to wake up and see how to address this


that's why lah she just, that's the thing, so she sees it as oh, that's me I'm easy-going


I I told her off about that, Zina that is not easy-going,


is not against each other you know, easy-going it is, when you are very upfront able to share easy-going you don't have to hide that is also easy-going what


you are not having a hidden agenda you're not trying to mask certain things you're easy going you're an open book that's easy-going also


, that's why during the, during the discussion dengan ashraf I was saying Zina


didn't have any plan you know what to do with her life I have been the one to guide her in what to study ah ashraf dengar [jer] lah what he want to say he just


that's why Ashraf, if, but whatever it is he is already macam he never macam like show the reaction of macam you know or he didn't show it lah of being tak nak tak nak apa oh like shock or what I think he knows ah what he's getting into with Zina


the way, ya lah of course, still a lot ya


of course


ya of course we are we are happy that this at least he is competent lah, I don't think he would lah if he does that he knows that he's just souring the relationship with me


err


push Zina right, pull, pull


ya, consume


step up, no lah dia tak boleh terus macam lepaskan tangan no


so ya basically concludes the whole thing lah with, Zina and Ashraf then, I was two zero abah open this topic about Dayah then I was asking Zina Zina what have you been talking to Dayah lah about Dayah'S like err relationship or a'ah zina cakap no we don't talk each other !huh!


say what do you mean don't talk each other then we to talk about personal things, that's it sit down here tell me what's the problem, she say ya Dayah and me then ya I understand that you and Dayah are two different people you have two different beliefs


but, at the very least you should find a common ground that you are both sisters and you are there for each other, then I say ya I know she has all this never like me you know


so you know now this is a problem right so what are you going to do about it, ya she also okay don't talk about her talk about you what are you going to do about it, ya I tried already I see I try already then she doesn't want to try


okay, what you are telling me is the same as what Hidayah is telling me, okay so I'm going to take it as, you know positively, both of you have tried


ah


do what you want me to tell you the answer takkan lah I have to give you the answer, !huh!, why you must have the jawapan for me


and then dia cakap ya then kita nak kena ask someone to help ah then siapa this someone to help, you lah ah then


get help from me why both of you cannot be proactively coming to me is it, you know abang salim kita ada problem


and we just cannot talk about personal things let's say ya do you know why zina kalau if this were the reverse that let's say you and Zina you and Dayah, I had the same kind of argument with me and Izat I bet you ah you and Dayah would not be talking to each other now


because the severity of it is so bad that you guys can't even talk about personal things, at least ah you see ah it me and Izat


I'm doubting you know whether you and Dayah would apologise to each other, then you did Zina was saying macam like ya but you guys don't talk about personal no I talk about personal things to Izat


ya ya


during ah our apa being after being married also we still talk about macam certain thing we don't talk about jobs we are not macam pen pals is not like macam like the way I would talk to Faris for example but


that's why lah that's why it seems it's


ya lah, sure but okay maybe contextually is different but what I'm saying is you should be comfortable to be able to speak to each other


no we're not always at loggerheads this is just one episode all the while we have never been at loggerheads, when we were younger yes but when we were married this is the first of a long time


no lah not really enstranged like even after this one I I have macam move on and forgive him already like whatever di~ he needs to work on it he knows that he needs to work on it it's it's a long working it's a long working process for him at the very least now he can learn to apologise dulu lagi tak boleh apologise pun dia punya ego is so big


what the, like have to see it as steps lah, so, that I mean like, I know that if I meet him the next time he will actually still come and say apologize to me just to macam make sure that we are in good terms because at least he wants to proactively want us to be in good terms Hidayah and Zina is different they are just happy with being ignored


that's how bad it is ah so at least me and izat kalau kita disagree but we will want to still talk about it we won't like ignore it like izat macam has a very strong point he will still want to talk about it like this thing that macam he feels very strongly that I'm going to be very aggressive he will still talk about it what he will not macam tak nak berbual dengan si salim no he still at least wants to talk about it so at least that's healthy enough


how he approach it he needs to learn to work it out, how he macam best character he needs to learn to work it out, so okay lah I think


Dayah and Zina is like they just ignore the problem then I say Zina especially now when you are about to get married what do you think would happen nanti bil zina sudah kahwin zina sudah pergi tinggal tempat lain lagi [kan] lagi kau orang lagi will be more separated


I can tell that me and Izat even though we are staying in two different place we still can engage in conversation, you and Dayah ready have a problem bila kau orang tak sama rumah lagi what do you think


this passive aggressiveness tak boleh tak boleh ah


(uh huh)


ya I I did I did macam tell her lah that at the end of the day we are all family and I also did tell her that uh


that family comes first, that you need to see that, you cannot just macam biarkan that this issue err to just continue as it is because it's not gonna be healthy


at the end you are both gonna suffer, so I told ya lah so I told her nevermind, the what I need from you is are you in agreement


you want me to help okay then that's enough for your side I will ask hidayah tanya hidayah kalau hidayah nak then, we will make it happen


both first of all the plan is get both of them to a room sit down talk about their trust issues that they have for each other the biggest problem masalah yang dia ada ini is trust issues Hidayah doesn't trust her because Hidayah feels that she is very incompetent still very childish and what what what what still haven't gone through life experience about what Zina has trust issues because things Dayah is no no it all dismiss I'm better than you ah so that's why lah trust issues you issue you don't trust each other's number one you don't trust each other in terms of feelings you don't trust each other about your thoughts ah so that is the the issue here then it will manifest to every other thing isn't it


yes so I (ppc), mama abah just listen so good thing was (ppc), mama abah willing to hear (ppc), (ppc)


and then, mama !wah! at one okay at one point, , nevermind just


okay so anyway I'll just continue talking like there was one point where , Zina was uh no I uh Zina was saying that she was the reason why apa she went on to telling Izat first because she felt more comfortable talking to Izat


then I said Zina since when you are that close to Izat then she said ya you don't know I'm that close to Izat then I say rubbish lah, then she she sudah bingit lah bila kena rubbish then she walk off, I say since when I'm the one who hs been with you for all your stages


she she kena already lah then she walk off


so that's why I told her ya Zina you are close to Izat because of the boys ya I said that you're close to him because of the boys you did the boys are not there how will you be close to Izat, Izat is just a byproduct this relationship that you have I didn't meant to say the word byproduct ah but I say you are close to the boys just because of uh


uh you are close to Izat just because the boys uh with Izat you know, and because of the boys therefore you are close to Izat, then I say since when you been talking to Izat since when, all all the


then say ya of recent years it has been the case ah that's that's the part I said ah rubbish then stop it since when then she already sudah kena then she walk off to toilet


because like ya she had to hear it lah macam like eh mana sa~ !wah! you are the, you are that close to Izat then I say which part, primary school secondary school tertiary


where where did it come from just got recent just because of this topic when and then just because of the boys [kan]


further studies, ah then I then I also


so going back to yang tadi [kan] we were talking about Zina and Dayah and I was asking Zina who do you think you, need this person the person ah to help you guys bridge it, then she said me then I said ya then you think what Izat can do this job ah


ah then Izat do you think then she's like smile ah !aiya! lah cannot lah, then I say you know right that this is not his strength, you know right this is one thing that I know you know that I can help right


that's why


(hmm), that's why I said and to =zina semua orang ada dia punya own kemahiran kelebihan okay izat dia ada dia punya own kelebihan and then you know that this is something that you know I would be able to address then you have to be proactive and ask


you both are not proactive in the sense that you both didn't come up and ask why is it that I have to ask you whether you want this help or not really backward one really weird


they are basically complacent because right now they are in the same house they think right they have enough interaction with each other but it's not about the, frequency it's about the quality, they just don't see the point in macam making sure that they are


you know comfortable, ya of course


, start okay okay so, okay start from the


so he stuck at lookout for suspicious character lah, but why can't she the be so why can't she be clear


and this is why dia shouldn't come in yet


okay


so new sia,


ah dia duduk dia duduk dekat the mirror side lah yang facing the living room there right, ah uh


so dia memang uh friend of a friend is it


, , (mmhmm)


so dia dia kalau police dia kalau finish a certain number of years bond dia dapat yang bonus itu [kan]


he's and and so he's actually macam upfront and really just, clear about what he's getting


eh merepek eh


, , , , so what happen you tanya first ah


, (ppc)


ya, he still thinks it it was the right thing to do itu ah


okay, because we haven't even consented to this relationship in the first place


cough up lah information,


ya Allah okay so oh tak tapi ini yang ini yang revise punya plan [kan], go into that yes


ya, okay


!duh! itu yang kita cakap [kan], oh my god susah benda ini sudah jadi so complicated in the last three weeks


ya which you you might not but you might not agree ah


ah ah (mmhmm)


oh okay maksud dia macam dia cakap macam dia cakap lepas kahwin pun boleh grow up macam how Zina puts it ah lepas kahwin pun can still do this


but I I don't know how much dia orang faham of this growing up thing I think macam fikir macam oh it's just about career future entah lah


ya ya lah but I guess baby steps then after that, mama dekat kitchen apasal mama dekat kitchen !huh!


did you say macam jangan sembunyi-sembunyi did you say that, did you did you specifically say that


ah habis dia okay [jer]


ya , so memang dia dua puluh lima ah


(hmm)


ah,


oh I know the NLB the dekat there okay ya I was there last time


a'ah [seh]


okay so, oh so just the informal ya


ah, ah


you said, ,


ah, supporting lah ya dayah yang kena support lah


, ah habis apasal taxi driver


okay, Dayah is at the stage of her life that she's driven and macam have a lot of aspiration


habis dengan orang ini walaupun dia educated ke atau dia kaya ke at the end he's just going to be having this err aura of like macam relax jack and that's not gonna fit well the dynamics


Dayah'S ah ah


to get somebody that is competent with you ini semua tak tak ambil kira ah, so fed up ah this type of thing


uh anyway this boy the call you abang or what


I don't think he even thinks like this lah, oh so that's when he call you abang ah


oh


foresight a'ah


so the conversation dengan zina err bila yang ashraf itu sudah keluar it's more of like what what did you say to zina pasal yang the growing up and then pasal pasal making a apa plan habis pasal apa lagi like what else did you address


did you say that did you say


I think you know what you can from now on you can use this card against her every time she like this like this ah kata nak kahwin nak kahwin nak kena wake up music just just just use this card


what do you expect that's the very doesn't this tell us so much about why, we feel you're not ready about marriage because what do you expect macam do you expect it to be something that you will be led by this man who is has her leadership character who's spur and can lead you to be a better muslim blah blah blah


then your life like and then you can just trail along do you really expect that and do you think it's that way really


no macam gini the thing yang dia nak kena differentiate is ada bezanya easy-going dan tak ada haluan this is the thing Zina you are which one, easy-going atau actually you are directionless


don't confuse don't conflict the two you know


you said that ah untuk si ashraf ini ah habis ashraf cakap apa , ah budak ini pun tahu ke tak the background of Zina


are you sure or not Salim I don't think so these two people only get to know each other two years I know you more than two years we've only gotten serious for two years and I know you even before that yet even then, you still there's so much for us to discover


!haiya!, I mean I !haiya! I don't know what to feel about this


ya, send ya


must take this action


I know continuing from what I I was saying just now I'm I'm thankful and okay good that he's a nice guy, but I don't know I don't know whether uh I


I really don't know lah this the the dynamics of the relationship how healthy this is but then again I really don't know if this is what it takes macam to, push zina tapi I don't know if at the end of this product is Zina will be


pushed or Zina will be pulled down, you get what I'm saying it can really work both ways ya that's the thing I don't want macam at the end of the day not not at the end of the day but at the end of it all Zina loses dia punya identity because this she is she is macam dissolving into a very


err big personality how to say not big lah firm firm firm personality you get what I'm saying right, ya, ah it's so it's so possible you know it's so possible lagi lagi dengan zina macam dia see that I don't know lah sometimes they'll see some examples around the that as if macam she and she that makes her think that this is the


ideal way that macam you know like ah a woman shall be like macam be led by a man that kind of thing and, your life will turn out well, ah


at because at some point there will be a point that macam she will realize that her identity is being consumed if she doesn't, step out step up and out of it and then when this particular point comes


I wouldn't know how it'll she'll be addressed, no it's not say tak lepas tangan it's just it's just that


I want to wish her well but at the same time I I just feel like I also don't know where this type of relationship dynamics will lead into it can be quite worrying


talk to Dayah


eye to eye


what what do you talk about personal things with Izat, !huh! you talk about marriage to Izat like what


this was before lah


seriously


so it's okay what no it's not deeply personal I think I think you are getting this wrong, women like when we say personal stuff we really mean deep personal stuff orang punya personal is to us superficial


ya but Zina can also ask you the same then why and why you and Izat is always at loggerheads


no but I think you between you and you and Izat are still pretty estranged isn't it


ya lah


ya lah because also also Dayah always clamps her down


at the end of the day Zina Dayah is still your sister macam you know she still cares for you lah then you know like


that's why I don't think she can see that way


so what's your plan


ya lah, ya ya, Hidayah is clamping her down lah


ya ya


!huh!, my why is my recoding still err okay you continue kejap kejap ya my recording is kind of


ah ah ah where


no but you know why she walk off I think it's not that she she don't she doesn't see your point in this because I think to her like ya she's been close to Izat ever since macam she's been involved with the basic babysitting of the


you said that okay, okay


like it's still at the end of the day is very skewed to what is your agenda and what is your topic isn't it don't say that macam don't say that, you are macam ah tapi ah it's not that she will see all this point


you said that ah then


but that's because dia orang don't even see that they need work on it so that's why they are not even thinking of approaching you to tolong them and like mend this thing you know that because they they are not the point to need or to to work on it lah


but it's hard lah I mean it's also vary in age age difference macam I think if you have if you have not inculcated cultivated the relationship from young also, it's very hard and you will often require a certain


change of life events or certain, oh you also cannot engineer it what Salim like macam you cannot be bringing the two of them together


currently I haven't get my NS letter lah but


, so err kalau I'm more fit I can you know run faster err I can play better I can improve my performance ah in game


err, err I juga suka pergi gym I like


like to push myself with my friends so, fit body more important for me lah over good looks but, of course kadangkala like of course everyone wants to have good looks lah you know you go out then if take photo with friends or what or like you know you want to get girlfriend all you need good looks what so err ya lah ya got pros and cons lah for both but


err, if I had to pick one then, err mungkin I pick the fit body lah, how about you


yang tu betul juga err


err macam you kata [pe] good looks tu err semua genetics tapi fit body I can I can train you know I can work for it especially now we are young right so fit body is a bit easier to get lah you know then


err, as long as we know diet properly we train hard like we can get we can get the the fit body lah but for good looks err if your face is a certain way then we we can't change it what so it's all down to genetics


err


err to fit body, err hopefully lah can you know live a healthier life and err not have any like, err


!wah! your question so deep


so, I I feel like maybe you know they always talk about the ice caps melting all this, so I feel like err humans will go extinct from like all these like global global warming factors lah err mungkin like slowly over time when the sea levels rise ke then all the you know kampung by the the seaside all will become flooded and stuff like that or like mungkin will have err


ya, so, extinct mungkin kalau macam sekarang ada COVID [kan] tu virus


especially kalau tengok err kalau singapore okay lah sekarang itu case semua sudah fall a lot right, but if you look at other countries a bit more difficult to control lah especially if the country is very big right and


err maybe they are more how to say like social like, err mereka suka peluk semua [kan] jadi like this kind of like easily transmitted disease through contact


could be a reason lah if let's say like scientists err cannot find the cure or like the vaccine in time, then I feel like


how about you what you think


err I feel like it could reduce their population a lot overtime if the let's say you know econs they teach us they measure by gini coefficient right if it keep increasing increasing the rich get richer yang miskin jadi lebih miskin then


you know from all this err, hunger and starvation maybe like, err people will like the population will eventually get reduced lah cause


, if if this I mean don't know lah maybe if like this in the whole world not just africa lah of course other countries also you see the, the income inequality makin naik and the


maybe lah this could be a factor that might contribute but mungkin err bukan main cause lah untuk err menyebabkan err apa tu err extinction of humans


ya ya


skill tu you like do you mean like err, supernatural kind or it's like a realistic kind of like


oh


I mean, if that's the case right I mean maybe untuk saya lah err, I hope to be able to how to say macam like, cause kalau gitu I can I boleh faham apa yang orang tengah fikir tu and I can like


better like not say change myself lah but like err how to say like relate to them and like, err whenever I have my social interactions with people and all that I can, adapt accordingly lah, I err mungkin err bukan saja cara you cakap tapi err


err ya lah itu like that's one of the first skill like I feel like err would be very beneficial lah and it's bukan satu skill yang senang untuk belajar pun it's like


it takes a while a long time to to pick up and build up at until you are at a good level lah, then maybe another skill would be like, err


like the kind err it comes together with like, like stage confidence lah not not just speaking you know maybe like anything in front of a large group of people lah but like err buat err presentation ke err nak buat acting ke err


err performance because I also play the drums right then I have a band so, like , anything that has to do with like err maybe a high pressure situation or err like situations with like other consequence [kan] macam like pertandingan bola ke where there's a there's a price at hand you you can you can dapat something lah you can win something at the end of the pertandingan ah so


err that kind I I hope like I can improve my confidence lah I mean is err it's not really a skill maybe is more of a trait but


err then, it's it's good lah in the long term it can help me in many many situations in life, then kalau the third skill maybe err, is more towards


like being more optimistic err positive fikiran semua err mindset


if I face it with like a a a positive mindset err kalau err as hard as it can be susah ke tak susah I can I can convince myself motivate myself to go through whatever struggles and skill ni penting cause it can help me to push through like let's say


err gym kalau aku penat ke apa my next my next set I can just err keep staying positive motivate myself in my mind I focus on my goals and I just pursue them, like


oh third one macam like err it's like a positive mindset you have like a optimistic outlook on life you know yourself worth you know you know why you belong and you you are self driven self motivated


err


I boleh jual I boleh dapat wang lagi yang banyak lepas tu I can just use it to spend on whatever I want lah whatever else I want because by then I'll be rich what


because these are things that will appreciate in value and, you know I can I can just err accumulate my wealth from it because since like you said lah in the condition given is that


so like, err


if I boleh dapat ni benda semua I I can just you know err, increase my wealth from there lah whenever the stock market go up I can just err sell it if not I just hold on to it lah until the value is a good time to sell lah


then from there I can build up my wealth I can become rich boleh tolong keluarga saya kawan-kawan saya semua you know I can I can whatever that is material I can dapat dengan wang err I can I can have lah, ya


for me ah probably, ability to teleport lah


it no matter how we try to maximise our time, like ultimately travelling takes a long a long time lah like, I tahu lah kita tinggal di singapura ni singapore so small right they always say like you want to get to one side of the island to the other side is a short time only compared to other big countries but


even then like, is is not a problem lah you can you can do it at your at your like your own time you save so much time and


just having that additional satu dua jam setiap hari I mean it could be even more for some people because, like maybe their daily commute takes a total of four hours out of their day you know, you can get more sleep your tidur is good you err


your health pun lebih baik , you know you nak err like


travelling and all that you know like selalu kalau err jalan sesak traffic jam or accident hujan ke then you waste even more time lah so if you can teleport around you know I mean unrealistic lah but superpower right so if you can teleport around of course ideally not just yourself lah if other people also then you nak pergi holiday over the weekend pun boleh apa err so


like, if the ability to teleport I feel is a is a very good superpower lah I mean, maybe we don't see it much in movies like err maybe people like more of like a a strength or something like


but I feel like this is a small small little thing lah that, err would would benefit like


ya, (mmhmm), (mmhmm)


, are you more of a marvel fan atau you lebih suka DC


, err


he's still a normal human being lah but bila dia marah then then only dia transform [kan] jadi like, sometimes when you have like, I mean they always say lah with great power comes great responsibility [kan] so like


, if I'm always having to be seen as the superhuman superhero with superpower then like I feel like the expectation terhadap diri saya akan it will be very high lah from everyone from myself all but if I can still be like a normal human being at the same time as being a superhero


, I feel like it's beneficial lah because like I can I can still live my life and stuff as as per normal, this err insane amount of strength that how hulk has


I mean, err I play a lot of sports and all that I love to gym you know


like err semua orang selalu label me as like err buff strong whatever, but , especially dulu bila bila eh err start of this year right when I had the shoulder err shoulder surgery and all that


like, err whatever the case lah basically, whenever I am down then like or I am not able to perform at my


, highest potential highest err performance lah, I


I feel like because of this label like I have to always like, they all look up to me as this err strong fit buff guy then


, like bukan sahaja uh dari segi performance tapi like, from a physique aspect like in terms of looks also like,


, these so called good label can be , will come after you lah because it is like it puts a lot of like high pressure on yourself


is down lah like


it can affect you sometimes and like it can pull you down even further lah you boleh cause itu macam apa tu dia orang panggil macam spiral, ya, so when you go into the spiral then


because everything needs your willpower right like even you nak ganti baju nak pilih baju apa untuk pakai pun it takes you like some willpower to think about what you are going to do so like when you are lacking that willpower you memang bukan malas lah tapi like you really not feeling it like you just don't want to do any anything you nak just like


err just lay down in bed just like, like, is it can become a real mood killer lah as much as like oh you think like err having this fit body like we said earlier lah tadi


this this this good label of being this fit guy this strong guy buff guy good look ah like good like physical look


all err , they just err placed on me lah ya


okay lah


dream occupation saya is err to be a physiotherapist [kan] so, that's one but, also in five years six years time lepas uni depends on my situation lah if especially


of course devote some portion of day to the person lah like, err partner, like, I need to of course like devote some portion of my time to that person lah but okay err kalau kita assume tak ada orang tu I masih single I


err lepas habis uni I'm probably be bonded to err one of the err government hospital [kan], so, I mean


my my day will most likely be like, err going to work and all that then like, whatever free time yang I ada mungkin like


err I I still like to keep fit lah as I grow older so


if possible, you know and ideally would be of course with a with a friend lah cause kalau you train seorang-seorang pun err after a while it it kind of


err, could be a bit boring sometimes could be unmotivating and stuff tapi ideally if you have always have err, a training partner especially a training partner who selalu banyak tenaga banyak tenaga very like


energetic you know err selalu err give you a lot of vocal cues you know pushing you


berharap like next time I I dapat macam work life balance lah orang cakap like


become like a private sports err physiotherapist after I [dah] habis I punya bond dengan err hospital government hospital right and , ideally if I can become like a private sports therapist then physiotherapist then I can help


err athletes who, who like because I was I'm now an athlete like, at that time I will look back and like I as an athlete like I did I sometimes and I need but like I tak tak cukup duit lah because this kind of service all can be quite expensive lah but I hope to be able to


to help all all these athletes and ensure that they are able to perform at their


when it's fully recovered you can perform better you can push yourself or, it's a it's a thing lah I feel like