ya ya ya, ya that's the thing literally my teacher told me to like build like get relationship and like build relationships so that you can get contacts in case like you know you need whatever I guess media is like the best way to


to get contacts, true true but I guess that's not what I'm there to do I have a passion for it then I'm just gonna do it lah, ya eh so should we go for dinner


that's why, same [dah] oh my god it's literally so windy now and the, sky is so dark, ya it's been so cold especially at night when you sleep it's so Shiok sia


why would you do that


singapore leh, oh my gosh but I do want to experience snow though, I've never I've never experienced snow, really, I feel like I always wanted to go to a snow country but my mum doesn't like it


are you Siao or what


are you crazy oh my gosh I really but I really really wanna go and like experience snow, oh, I oh my god I wanna go disneyland also oh


like the hong kong one I think that's the main one right, that's so cool leh honestly, right honestly ya same same same because with parents and family some things are quite limited so ya ya ya that's so true


okay [lah] I think we should just go for dinner, okay okay !wah! we talk quite long [ah] that's why that's why let's go K K I very hungry already


eh, okay I was suppose to start my day at ten but it's already twelve


so that happen, so that every okay okay it's recess week you meant to take breaks right ya that's, ya that's true but at I have an assignment due tomorrow, yes yes


yes we take the same thing


ya, oh,


, cause I woke up at eight thirty then I just like took my time, and then like I eat at home


just told me that she is coming is coming late so I was like okay lah


she said that she was thinking of Tumpanging with, his her parents cause the parents sending the brother to school


no just some eh primary school I think ya, then in the end she said she couldn't wake up I mean that thing happens to a lot of us sia, ya


no she stays in #choa chu kang#, a'ah memang jauh , ya


, busy uh ya so that they can now set a target put in your schedule as well


according to her they are not going to do a department photoshoot more of like individual photoshoot, cause like I don't know I think it was hard also for them to come out with department photoshoot


no idea what they are going to do I guess we shall, see how is it going to be like, IP, she is the ya she is the head


ya she is head she is head, Acap, ya


who is the vice head menarik ah, ad hoc ad hoc me, I am so happy honestly, I'm I'm loving my life


next sem no they said that this sem I feel won't have volunteers, ya it's more of online stuff


haven't right, members ya, haven't open yet, oh, don't know whether that's slow or not but it's not my problem also


yes that is true, a'ah,


ya but is it some ad hoc tak ada heats, all the best to them I remember during my time we did both at the same time, like finding the heats and opening up the recruitment


those were the days, good thing I'm not Fomoing I think if I miss it I will FOMO and will join so


no I don't think I want to join I don't think so, are you planning to join


ya, sampai dua-dua sekali [seh]


that's true ya you don't need to like try some more


yes last year best year there's right so I'm doing other shapes yes instead of doing school stuff, yes, yes what is the other things that we should be doing


sad I think next next sem kita set out account ah


oh my god I always wanted to see, ha okay K K


ya, ya


oh okay lah and, oh, cause other dating apps you need to upload a legit photo of yourself right to make sure that


ah I've been wanting to see how it works


oh is that, oh, ha, you cannot like delete the profile ah


then what if like the person dah kahwin then lepas tu ada masih orang nak try hit on the person


serious then what did the guy do, oh it's like didn't see lah cause like your apa tak nampak apa-apa pun [kan]


the thing right then they will read it was the limit of ten guys I think oh, oh


okay okay, ya that's why it's like a bit too intense for me lah


Muzmatch, uh, , oh


cool through half of our Deen, ya, ya


oh


oh my god that's nice okay set I will go for half of our Deen instead of Muzmatch, ya international love that's the way to go, but half of our Deen also for muslim


, oh, serious, Muzmatch no need to pay


oh, interesting


eh then you know the Instagram what's that filter where they have their halal meter or haram meter thingy, where were where is it from I heard it's from some dating apps also was it I'm not sure, oh cause like someone told me one of these dating apps they have this halal haram ratio or something


so that they will match you to the right person like, I don't know what is it, do you pray oh okay


ya, oh, okay okay that's cool


interesting, but do you think you will bond to meet your significant other through a dating apps, , I think


ya, that's true


I know right, I like to observe the people first from afar, then see how is he like then I did like something that, people other people opinions on that guy also affect my opinion on that guy also like for instant if people around him keep saying that oh my god he is such a nice person and he does this this this then I will


be like oh okay since like he is kind to a lot of people then he must be a nice person, ya or else


ya that's true


to go but then I always feel bad because you like you say orang kat Muzmatch macam dia orang serious


oh, ya


that is so sad, ya


(hmm), that is sad, oh well sometimes it works for people sometimes it does not


ya it does oh ya about apa yang you said, about putting themselves out there you know some people were saying that in unique, a lot of people also try their best to put themselves out there and you can see there's some people will be turned off by that right


how do you feel about that isn't that like a dating app but then macam physical


ah that is true that is true, ya


, ya ya it does, clap for me


ya ya that is scary, ya


I don't know whether it is still like that is it still like that, or maybe I just turn a blind eye on it it just like


oh so much sia on topic ini , but I think someone ask me this before, an outdoor person may I like to do outdoors things like, ya I feel like I told you this before no, I'm a outdoor person like I like to do outdoor things like


then probably an ideal date for me will be doing things somethings outdoor lah somethings like trekking oh my god I love trekking just like walking around because right, when I trek with my friends I we have we actually don't have a lot of things to do other than walking


and also like since it is quite silent sometimes you want to listen to the silence around you, and if you are trekking with your friends you will be comfortable with the silent so maybe you want to see whether there's ya comfortable with the silent with that guy , and also like sometimes you also want to talk because trekking will be pretty long


so wouldn't want to stay quiet all the time so for instance if I want to go on a movie date, then I can't really talk to him I can't really get to know him right so if I was talk walking I can like, try to get to know him and like see how is he like


ha, tricky question don't know eh I feel like first date, and like subsequent dates I would want to go trekking


ya not bad not bad is that like too much, I have never dated people before so I wouldn't know what is too much, ya I feel that movie date is too much


because it's so intimate, ya and it's dark and it's scary like, what are you going to do, kadang orang gatal


, you never know, ya


ya exactly, but that's like another two hours it's too long


I don't know, I don't know how long, ya


do you also want to go trekking, then what is your first date, oh ya that's the point though if you can't accept me at my lowest there's no reason being


oh okay okay sure, few months okay, oh ya then the first one eh


oh my god that's sound fun actually I always wanted to go picnic, with someone like a significant other like I don't know


paint tengah picnic oh my god that is so cute, ah , [kan] like these few days people have been picnicking a lot


ya, lay flat lay is it ya flat lay


!wah!, that is so cute, ya I would want to end my date with sunset, but then macam kalau the date doesn't go well I will be like bye I don't really want to share this sunset with you


so I am going to go home first but mostly that won't happen lah, ya


halfway halfway, like, they just went toilet, oh that is super rude though


ya, does that happen often though like you people just ghost


ya, ya, wait apa tu catfish


ya I pretty sure it's not, I'm on like a dating app you pretend to be someone else,


oh okay okay


, ya


oh, maybe cause like he's still very young also so like I think eighteen nineteen it's pretty young so he doesn't really know what to do maybe I forgive him for doing that


because, ya like the first thing you already lie like you haven't even start anything you already lie that is so sad


I think I do cerita pasal dating apps or dating


wait cerita netflix oh, oh okay


(uh huh), ya, oh okay that's so fast but that's so cute too lah


interesting


oh


ya it sounds like an interesting concept, oh


ya, and everything because you only need the birth cert so at that point it was really a matter of


ah, oh


that's good I don't know , I don't know would you


no I don't think so, ya ya, it is important


I don't know lah you know the malay store malaysian drama or malaysian movies, where the parents just like apa pair them pair their children up then like they their children won't know each other and and don't see each other until like the day before the engagement or something


ya isn't that like kind of the same thing also


, I used to think that I'm okay with my parents match making me but then now, nah I don't think so, oh I don't know I change


ya if I don't get married then it's fine lah, twenty five is quite early ya cause like in three years


ya oh my god, twenty five sounds like a good age, then now you're twenty two you haven't really get your shit together then like, three years to get your shit that's really too fast


ya I think like twenty five sounds okay if you already have a, ya, a'ah a'ah my friends also


at first I was like ah I want to move out I want to buy a house, at first I was like ah but I I want to move out I want to buy a house but I can't really apply for BTO right you know


ya, is it cause of the current resource


maybe they should like create an environment that is healthy for the future generation to live in then maybe we will consider to procreate, , I mean if like the view if we can see the future being so messed up and everything right now are so messed up and like the systems a'ah and all that


if you want to have children would you want our future generation to suffer, ya and that's the thing


obstacles challenges you will go stronger lah and all those bullshits I was like that is such a sad life


[kan], I mean like in other countries you will still be a minority too


multiculturalism whatever it is, I don't even know what that is


(uh huh)


ya but she's like oh okay


ya ya ya


you just one way, ya have you watched enola, neither have I I thought my sister and my parents watch it last night


then I saw one uh caption uh bukan caption ah macam post, girl this lady asking sherlock I think asking sherlock, do you saw it then I was like oh my god ya


ya ya ya, fits you perfectly, I was like bro damn that is like I don't need


uh like it's so sad macam because of all this kind of things it's just some disagreements


okay ya


ya that's true that's true


uh kadang dia orang tak sedar diri tau


nah nah


then like okay


that's weird, it's so jarring to us maybe but


which suits them perfectly


it's so sad, does he saying that it does not exist oh my god


that's quite sad, , ya [kan] orang-orang chinese tak faham lah


then we should step up more so that there will be more representation, otherwise they wouldn't hear right really meh


even if I step up will they hear, do they want to listen in the first place


where is the empathy right


people's action, ,


!hais!


ya like other countries aren't any better either, right right that's the thing right


then like okay fine I am very grateful for that but like


why like why are you comparing our country with other countries who are even not even on par with us like we are, I don't think we should just compare countries across countries like that


ya ya that's the thing


ya, like even if they allow us to wear is like there is still this line


which is sad like sure like he just like I told you to wear what, then like you still treat me so differently just because I wear a Hijab


ya like what you think I don't deserve those rights only some people deserve the rights, entah lah, oh my god why is everything so funny


ya, [kan] that is the sad part like in retrospect I feel so, sad that why was I like that it was so gross and disgusting


!hais!, it's okay to be void of


ya sad life, sad life


yes how our mind work too, it's just so campur up


ya eh but it's tuesday, ya


just like looking forward to thursday honestly, cause wednesday is that dateline right


ya and wednesday tomorrow is also my interview , like yesterday ya ya yesterday I was preparing for my interview like all the things, no wednesday tomorrow thirty today is twenty nine ya hahaha


for, interview, second phase of interview, what do you mean


no it's not, I always stop dekat second around , ya I have, oh it's more than two times ya


ya before I enter uni I applied also, ya I don't know whether internship counts


[kan], I also don't know, a few times, oh


accept ke tak we shall see


ya, ah is like early in the morning eight forty five kena report


I was like no I don't think so I have this thing to do I have like, my interview to prepare for, ya kind of ya I guess so, we shall see how things go


can I I need to quickly finish my


eh, oh, was thinking whether should I go to school after my interview then continue with my work


then I will not wake up, no I know myself too eh ah, ya that is true that is true


I have been taking too good care,


it's just like looking at this, which animal at the zoo do you like best, which animal at the zoo do I like best, it was it's been so long since I been to the zoo


wait let me think, what animals are there in zoo, ha siapa [seh] manusia


I think probably will be mammals for me, mammals ya, no I mean like some animal under mammal cause I still don't know what else


which animal do I get the most excited, oh and I see ah I know already I know already, what, no I mean giraffe also but


but I get excited when I see another animal more, not so big, ya, uh what am I, okay then small


I mean I had seen enough monkeys when I go trekking


no that is big ya koala so cute


then what's yours it's a he, lelaki , cheetahs, oh my god I like that too, there is spots right is it


nah I keep confusing the cause there's like cheetah leopard tigers, what,


do they make noises, I know I know


what's your favourite word, that's true, what's a word like you always use, is this like that cub or


oh is that them, what is that why how did it make that line, interesting


ya, , is lion a cat, uh


, I want to go to safari yang dekat africa


apparently, ya I be the one in the cage instead of them ya ya it definitely is


yes, eh terima kasih lah


how was it, boring to be slightly or they were like okay is it was kind of down because you don't get the money ah, really, ya oh ya ya is like additional I know there was some additional fees so


then what is the river safari, then why do they call it river safari


weirdos, they don't have the cruise anymore so then the boats then from two hundred fifty nine it's just like a short is like a job, ya


, oh it's kind of dumb, oh, what the heck that is so sad


ya, really ah


, oh


maybe he ya don't kind of pregnant begitu he buat to rasa something like that, ah ya, probably ya


so how


and then like I heard there's always a lot of videos on the, baby panda, then like they just like towel inside the oh my god I just look videos on babies and toddlers


ya but now but my apa algorithm is more of ya human babies and cats, ya lah babies they not they always makes me so happy, I can just like watch one after another


ya I don't mind I'm not complaining at baby, a'ah


oh my god that's mine too, like what are you trying to say bro


why you making me jelly ah a'ah, !haiya! I think it was it's also a friend right to like post about their


oh


oh, ya ya


normalise guys crying, cause like there were some as or some post putting normalise guy crying and also maybe they wanted to normalise miscarriage like things like that


ya I wouldn't want to like put it out there in the world I will probably like if I want to post I probably post within my close friends and something


uh ya ya is like so cute


what I forget already there was one challenge, oh tak there is one challenge that I like, is was like calling my my girlfriend or wife a third name lah I think that's quite cute actually I like that one but some other challenge macam questionable


but then so cute, ya ya


, you know like I at first I don't understand like why would they feel that, way like, if like you're together don't you want to marry each other then ya


that's true


maybe I will know the feeling when I,


eh do you, do you know #adam swandi# #adam swandi#, never mind then he's a local football player, he just got married, and then his pelamin is so pretty I love it


cause it's really very nice oh my god and the function hall right it was so good the venue they have a space for children like I would want that because usually


malay weddings for instance usually most of the malay weddings I've went to


yes if I were to get married I would want to have like a children's corner for these I think it was a brilliant idea to have a children corner, then, right if I were to have a children corner you won't see the bride on the pelamin ah you'll see the bride


at the children corner , I'll be there, the groom was like I don't know where's my wife help me


that's quite funny


ya, oh my god I was thinking of that tetapi [kan] tetapi eh tapi [kan] macam singapore's weather doesn't really allow us to do that


(mmhmm) oh I would want


then macam at the same time I'm scared like hujan tempias even if there's like shelter ya and confirm mahal [seh] ya would you want to spend so much


on the wedding right, [kan], like I want a small majlis [jer]


it is, their family also like to connect each other's families


that's what I told you about like what the heck, it's just it's just funny how this


weddings how this Walimas work, a'ah


like I really hope if I end up getting married macam the, my in-laws would be nice and like not pressured


I know my family won't be nice, oh wells, [kan]


hi hi how are you lately,


it's okay it's okay it's okay recess week you are meant to take breaks right, is it the same assignment that I have oh


, oh yes yes yes ya me too me too I was supposed to wake up at nine err eight thirty, ya eight thirty cause I want leave house at nine thirty right and then I woke up at nine and then I was like (hmm) what time is it I was like oh my god it's nine and then I didn't want to get out of bed


like it was so hard and then I was like okay lah and then suddenly you see take your time lah it's okay lah then you say really take your time, I was like did she just leave the house


ah


ah,


NTU, uh oh, , it's a mood it's a mood dia tinggal dekat uh


ya oh my god that's really really far why why why


pity you oh ya she study, oh for ad hoc eh nice cool cool cool cool cool, IB school oh okay


oh for different department ah, oh then they will just photoshop people in the same group lah


, eh she was at her, IP, oh wait she is the


eh she is head ah, oh who is the vice head, oh yes yes yes yes oh my god, I like I was like trying to think who is the oh K K K yes yes yes


ya, ha ha does you feel like not being in ad hoc this year that's great , I'm proud of you for caring about yourself


volunteers, oh because they're not gonna do any physical okay


ah I see err no eh they haven't recruit volunteers for I say members, no not yet don't think so, ya


putting it on record is not your problem, no lah I think cause they are still trying to secure the heats, so if there's no heads they can't get the members


that will be kind of weird, ya ya ya, oh


oh okay okay that's interesting, do you miss it like joining something at least


do you intend to join, like next sem


don't know I feel like, like when I join when I was in year two it was purely for the sake of okay trying out new things right and I tried both ad hoc and sub comm


and then yes nak try sangat ah try dua-dua sekali lah, why not and so entah macam dah try dua dua dah cukup ah


experienced what I need to experienced in ad hoc ya, I feel like, I think I was like oh like it wasn't that great experience


and so I don't think I want to join again not in my last semester lah, yes last year best year, like I that was right so I am doing other shits instead of doing school stuff


that's the way, cari jodoh cari jodoh who is next , , okay set set


Muzmatch next sem, I try before I try before no no not me I ask my sister to download so she was like, I was like please please kakak you don't have anybody let me just try for for one hour, I feel she was like ya


no no no no no no sabar sabar no no okay so the the


it was that like it will it will really bring you to the guys tau so you can just swipe right or swipe left, and then like we saw the guys I was like oh my god there was a okay lah


you can just, err upload lepas like bila-bila masa ah


ya, I actually I think so I haven't really use other apps, yes ya you try you can just try now after that lepas tu like she just delete but then she still receives like emails from cross match cause it doesn't entirely


delete your account it just delete like it just delete the apps on your phone lor then macam the account is still there there's something about you what, I don't think can


I don't know actually maybe we never look through it hard enough to find where to delete, ya so like, we swipe up one guy


nothing within the hour she deleted the account after that, didn't see it but ya so I think


I think you have to complete your profile first so when you because we never upload her her profile or everything right, then there were we it was a limit of ten guys I think, ya so we only manage to see ten guys so out of the ten guys we only swipe up one guy


he was cute he was cute tapi [kan], come here looking for like eh it is, but I I guess that's the whole point of Muzmatch and also like like half our Deen right the app this dating apps but the half of our Deen is


in dia punya database include international people, so that was how my aunt got married, ya so ya, so at one point I think she was tired of finding guys she just wanted to


macam like, just go all out and try and then like okay so she she knows what she want she's like okay I'm serious I want to get married I wanted do this I want do that right I want I know what I want in a guy and so she join half of our Deen


I think half of my Deen or half of our Deen I can't remember and then , she met this guy so like err he is from another country, but like he comes to singapore and wants wants to do work and stuffs I think


and then he came to met her and the parents of her, nd then now they are happily married but now she lives in australia, , ya we want international guys


sure sure ya, that was kinda kinda, cool, the I think because


half of our Deen need you can have like yearly subscription or like I forgot what else ya I told my sister by the time she reach a certain age


and she still no guy I can help pay for her subscription , if she wants,


is it, I didn't know, oh okay okay


I feel like Muzmatch when you want to create the thing right they will actually ask you, how halal are you ya ya they will ask you about prayers so like the question was oh like how often do you pray then there is like sometimes most of the time everytime that kind of thing


I feel like that's the I feel like now that you said it I feel like there was one of the questions that was asked ya so in their profile they will show


, I think I wouldn't mind I would say I'm not against it, it's just I I feel like, not saying any couples out there who met through dating apps like you guys can be happy but like


I feel for me if I want to fall in love with a guy I have to know the guy in real life first, like I'm not the kind who superficially macam oh if you give me this this things about you list me this things about you then okay


you fit the ideal in because sometimes it's like act it's like you say things and you show things that you want people, to perceive of you that doesn't mean that they are truths about you, I like I rather go through the process of finding these things out myself about you and then I decide like I don't need


this interface to tell me okay ya, , ya, opinions on that guy also affect my opinion on that guy also like for instance if people around him keep saying that oh my god it's such a nice person and he doesn't this this this then I'll be like okay see it's like he's kind to a lot of people then he must be a nice person


ya, (mmhmm), (mmhmm)


ya and then that's kind of hard to to do with a guy that you meet on a dating app because you don't know the his friends, right you only know him and after that if he chooses to let you in on his social circle then you will get to know his friends but besides that


you only have him ya but like you will say lah like if that's important then, meeting a guy in real life whom you know through like mutuals and everything is more important


eh do it leh let me be the why, no lah I mean sometimes dia orang K when I say dia orang serious [kan] it's like dia orang betul-betul serious want to put themselves out there


but you can tell from okay so because my sister friend, join Muzmatch for quite a while and she dated a guy on Muzmatch but like she told my sister that the guy is that uh, quite trashy


it is so like I said like the things that they put on your profiles doesn't reflect, what who they are in real life you know I mean, ya so ya she dated a guy and then she broke up cause the guy was just too


eh, ya, ya like it really just depends on your rezeki I guess


(mmhmm)


, ya, I guess


when you this is very superficial lah but I guess when you do it in real life, it makes you come across and that's desperate, , ya because nobody knows how many guys you are talking to in in a dating app you see


you can be talking to twenty guys and that they they just think that like I mean they probably won't think you are talking to them alone because you are on a dating app but it feels like you are talking to them alone, but if you were to do it like in uni context for example when it's such a small social circle


and you put yourself out there and you, you know try your very hard right then it that case becomes desperate, ya, correct I know like I before I join ad hoc and stuff like people already


say lah you know did like people like actually join ad hoc and stuff for the sake of, ya so actually that that was what, turn off people from joining ad hoc last time, like during before like during that time when I wanted to join


I don't know, ah itu lah, , what's like your ideal date


ya lah , I would like to know, ideal date no I don't think so


, oh


so is that your ideal date or your ideal first date, first date ya, oh ya ya ya ya but like first date you terus want to pergi trekking


, , I I don't think that's anything is too much, I think it's up to people preferences


ah because, , watch the movie what do you mean okay then


okay ya I agree with you pasal the movie like


oh, I mean it opens up doors to topics of conversation afterwards like, if you going out to makan and everything, ya


ha your date how long , okay K K ya trekking sounds like a great great ya, okay I first date, I like nature so


uh no I feel like trekking nanti , I will look so unglam, like just, I I won't I won't dump it on scene on the first date I don't want you to run on the first date I'm gonna capture him first you know


like I will wait for like a few months, maybe like the second month ya oh let's go trekking then we see how lah


I like I like going outdoor so so so maybe I would like a picnic, ya, right ya, like I would like a picnic then we paint


ya right, like like I don't know like I had seen my friends who are couple and then go a picnics , ya


and then like dia orang masak sendiri you know and like so cute then they have like those picnic baskets and then like oh ya it's so cute, ya so sweet, the mat tikar flat lay yes yes yes yes


it's so beautiful, ya then after that we watch the sunset, right


oh no oh my god, okay if let's say you are on a bad date okay


would you ghost on him half way or would you, they just went toilet and then they never come back, but what if like the guy betul-betul macam very disgusting very rude


, ah, okay so it depends on how bad the guys is lah


ah I see, ghost, so I I suddenly remember pasal you did you watch TSL the smart local ya


ya so that was this they were talking about their dating experiences so there was this person who said that he was catfished, by catfish K catfish tu bukan kucing ikan okay tapi so basically like


on a dating app you pretend to be someone else, or you pretend to be something very different from who you are like you don't have to pretend to be someone else but you can just pretend to be younger or older or like, shorter or taller that kind of things so


then he was catfished by a much much older woman like at at that point he was only, nineteen eighteen ya, I think so lah ya then after that he was catfish so when he came right like


he saw the lady was much older at that point is so young right and then like he just went to toilet, and then he just never come back, ya


(mmhmm), it is , I mean, I think if I was catfished, the the the guy obviously deserves to be ghosted, because like why in the world would you lie to me in the first place


ya right, that's why, like I don't think that's a nice way to present yourself, ya do you watch like the netflix punya ha what's the


ah I forgot the name like the dating ya ya ya ya, that's this thing that you date, the girls on one side you guys on one side and then the girl and the guy will enter the same room but they cannot see each other


and then they will have like conversations bukan bukan it's not a cerita it's like dating reality, show uh that day I just find it


ya and then err so basically they will get to know each other through those rooms for like a few days, and then after that like if they like each other right they they can continue meeting each other through those room but they cannot see each other so when they can see each other is when the guy or the girl if you want proposed to the other person


so only when they are engaged, then they can meet and this all happened within one month, have you watched that so far it is it is, I I really forgot what's the show ah cry


maybe just finding, [kan], just you know


, I mean at this oh love is blind yes yes yes, ya love is blind is it was a pretty interesting show actually, err ya ya ya it is it is


like out of, many couples right only two got married tak salah I, ya, so even then there were a lot of dramas and everything because you can only meet the person so


at that point it was really a matter of, they will basically they were trying to prove like does looks matter do looks matter, ya like in in a relationship, so at that point because you cannot see the other person so it's really about


whether you can really appeal to this person just through your personality lah, (mmhmm) (mmhmm), would you ever,


no I I would be, I I feel like ya but like but like, I I think in matters to some extent that I get to see who I'm interacting with and potentially get engaged to you know


ya, , (mmhmm)


, match making ah, yes yes I guess it is the same thing like


ya but I guess that one is it's kind of sad lah cause they don't have a choice you know, ya, what change


, that's nice too right, I used to set deadlines for myself okay twenty five I must get married


ya it is, ya really is right but like that was when I was like still young and naive and just thought like ah you know, ya twenty five sounds like a good age after uni ya


and I no guy also like where am I going to look for, guy ya like, I have but I have a lot of my batch mates dia orang dah beli BTO you know


my batch mates tau I understand seniors but my own age, , ya ya like


shit, ya ya [kan] is, is I feel like it's really stupid like the the fact that, BTOs can only apply where people can only apply if they are getting marry and stuff and then like how the age limit to buy an apartment


the law says it's thirty five years old like I think that's really stupid, err ya and also like, I think the government also want people to procreate right so like they want people to get married have children so that's an incentive for them


yes, yes Hazimah


for women our future generation to suffer, ya, oh my, actually ya that's a good thing ah and I I've thought about this my answer is no lah I don't think I'm willing to have children, at it like in this knowing that the world is like this


nonsense nonsense it is it is and like


I don't know like I don't think I want my children to grow up in singapore, like not it's too stressful then, to be a minority in singapore it's something like in other countries you will still be a minority


true, true true true it's just that for a country that price itself over, multiculturalism multi racialism whatever, ya, I saw I saw my history teacher posted this on IG story


so it was about this article about this malay muslim lady who decided to make halal mooncakes because, there are a lot of halal mooncakes in singapore and then her caption was like you suppose to hiatus already his her caption was, to my sec four students uh here like no actually is like oh uh


both she teaches both so she was like here is a good, oh I'm proud to live in singapore err to my sec four students here is a good example of multiculturalism


and then just like right right and then I'm just like, but like you see you can always find minorities doings stuff to be, to like make an effort to accept other cultures but you don't see majorities doing that the same for minority cultures


so you can't possibly say that is multiculturalism if it just fits into, your ya, correct and then I was like oh K, no I haven't have you but I saw snippets of it


oh god, I saw I saw yes


about like oh like why did you not care about politics oh because is fatally boring right it was like it's boring, it's boring to you because you don't care about the or you don't care to change about the world that fits you perfectly ya,


that's exactly what I discussed with a friend that I fell out with, you know like, it is but, no it's not some disagreements and like like I said to this friend like


it's not something that you can just agree to disagree not when my rights are, being violated you know like when not when I'm denied these rights, have privilege over, you know it comes easy for you and that's why you can just choose to say I don't want to care about politics because it's so boring and it doesn't concern me but for me


politics is so deeply entrenched in every aspect of my life and for you to say that, uh like being so nonchalant about it it it hurts me lah because then do I even matter to you


because I feel like if you want to be, you uh, are a majority in this country right you have a lot of power and privilege, and if you're not willing to do something with that power and privilege


then you're just being an oppressor already you know if you are not on the side of the oppressed you are with the oppressor, dia orang tak sedar diri oh my god


then kalau let's say kalau kita bilang dia orang [kan] oh


ya


I so, perhaps it's also because if they acknowledge that chinese privilege exist then they have to, face the fact that you know the there's this inherent problem in the system


that is damn perfect suits them perfectly but denies, uh huge like minority groups of the same rights and privileges you know then then they will have to to you know they know that there needs to be changed by they are unwilling to go through that change because it brings inconvenience to them ya


ya, so dia betul-betul tak percaya tau chinese privilege exists, , it doesn't exist pasal oh


and then like talking about Mendaki system uh subsidies and stuff and like, prove that no chinese privilege ya


it's uh uh oh my god when I read it I was like K lah buang masa [jer] lah I baca tak ada apa-apa it's okay thank you very much


ya it's just , it's just ,


ya I feel like, when people say that oh you want more why why is it that you need more many represents or more minority representation


for you to hear minorities kind of what they face ya right like why do you need so is that you only hear people with power, what then then who are you really representing that you are not representing the people's voices you are representing yourselves people with power amongst yourselves


yes yes that's , ya so


ya it's true true but you see why is it that we always have to compare with other countries why can't we just compare with our own and admit that it's sucks


ya, I don't think you should just compare countries across countries like that, which countries , ya I agree with you like


there are other form of oppression that minorities face in singapore it doesn't have to be, oh because oh like other countries if you are muslim you die you know but in singapore like there are oppressions like Hijabi don't get to wear a Hijab all the time


there are instances at work where they have to remove that and that is something conflicting with religion and, you know being in workforce, ya


ya, ya like, ya it's like oh we should be grateful that we are giving you some rights oh oh okay


ya like, ya like okay can then like, I think like dulu


coming from a I feel like a, I would say privilege background, like I was very , blind sided to all these issues that was prevalent to this society, like I was


I feel like I was like always trying to be accepted in, ya ya, ya, ya


took a lot of unlearning to finally accept that you know what, it's okay like, ya like I'm proud of being who I am and I shouldn't care about what others


like,


I mean that's how conversation works, oh my god like ya, ya I feel like recess week is ending kind of fast


no no no no don't say that by the time you said that suddenly it's sunday already


yes, ha oh to submit ya


oh my god wait tomorrow is your interview, your interview not thursday ya, oh ha all the best


nice lah eh is it your second time doing it, the second phase of interview, ya I mean


first phase I mean is it your first time going is it the second time going through to the second round, oh okay K K, but you, ya lah so as in you been through this before lah ya lah ya lah that's what I mean, ya ya ya


oh really, oh because last time you also you also apply, then previously you also apply this one, okay, ah okay okay okay cool cool cool cool cool


like actually I wonder what is their criteria you know, ya like my friend Keat has been rejected


like setiap tahun dia cuba , cool cool cool cool


he he he he what time,


, but you are done preparing for it, okay that's good that's good


it's okay then tomorrow after the interview you can take a break first, work ah, eh tomorrow I'm going to the Furama thing


#tiong bahru# around that area ya, yes


maybe no maybe you should go home and sleep first, no you will, I will call you will you ignore me that's the thing


no lah can can make sure you take good care of yourself, no there is no such thing as too good care of yourself, that is nonsense


you can't say it, , oh what what which do you like best, ya


I already know mine but it doesn't live in the zoo, oh bukan , no K K you say first you say first, okay maybe put it in general lah in which general eh which animal do you like


but that's not an animal that's a category, oh okay okay


is it giraffe, K K K is it big


oh err zebra, oh tak ya


oh tiger no tiger besar ah !ee!, mammal ya, panda koala ah cute cute cute cute


that's cute that's cute mine, , I love cheetahs I love cheetahs for my entire life


yes, and I get by basing their cause there's like cheetah leopard yes, leopard yes yes yes, do you know that cheetahs don't roar do you know what sound cheetahs make, oh my god I would love to show you no they do not


they do they do make noises but, they do not call for #kor kor#


hold on ah, my favourite word sleep , I don't know eh dude there's one


no this is a full grown cheetah, the purr but it meow, and then they also make some okay you listen to the beginning right they actually make some other sound


ya them they make this sound, don't know, [kan]


like I, I love them so much I love cats any any kind of cats, ha ya they are all cats


like I want to meet a cheetah one day, oh


oh is it the kind that you duduk dalam haiwan ya ya ya ya I think that's better honestly, ya like why should they be in the cage


!aduh!, err I pergi river safari with my family


ya additional five dollars for the boat rides then I was like [pe] and then, not actually a lot of things is not on the river a lot of things is, no idea maybe there's a river there that's all


right and then I feels like ha maybe cause like can go first


a bit like a roller coaster kind of, really inside the lock right it's like a lock right there's a mechanic you know so you just go through it's like a ten minutes ride, ya kita kena bayar five dollars but besides that everything is like


no I thought it was going to be real but it's not, but but uh #kai kai# or #jia jia# whichever is the female one she's pregnant yes cute, then like they like she had to she couldn't come out lah she was she rested in


in his own enclosure, ya, like the I think #kai kai# is the guy one #kai kai# was , ah menopause ya


so dia pun pregnant lah, oh ya dia makan banyak tau tapi yang the pregnant, the #jia jia# was just sleeping like rolling around sleeping, ya so then the apa tu err


err Kai Jia #kai kai# #kai kai# dia asyik makan tau dia habis makan satu bamboo stick panjang [kan], the whole time dia just makan tau I was there for a good ten to fifteen minutes I just watch


eating and eating my god dia orang cute gila, I love pandas they are so clumsy just,


yes, yes, does it include animals, babies like on where instagram


maybe that's why your algorithm is just on this yes ya


that is interesting I think mine is also on, uh apa tu apa tu kucing and also you know those macam couple couple buat video ,


no it's not it's because kita orang asyik tengok some videos pasal couple couple so the algorithm just, shows that


, ya


should have just kept it to themselves macam something not everything other people should be, shared to everyone in the world because some things are so intimate like


ya like I was saying , oh dia went through


a bit dia ambil video on this stuff dia macam saja nak post [jer] then I am just like this kind of things in life are


so intimate to you guys I, maybe different people have different perceptions of what is intimate to them but in my opinion this kind of things are, I don't know it's just


true, true true true true I


I would say that I can agree with that of course like I I'm all for you know normalising guys crying and miscarriages happen in huge like, be able to talk about it openly but as you know it's just


ya ya, so ya I don't know like


they are like,


I see, ya, there is this I have this favourite couple the guy is so sweet and then like there was like a date the girlfriend did a challenge called my husband and then the guy was like oh


my heart you just called me your husband, oh so cute


I guess maybe like at that stage they still don't know yet but then when someone says it like that it gives them more reassurance that one day it's gonna happen you know


you you can try lah like oh like do a live oh my husband here then like , then your mother follows you right later your mother oh okay lah then your friends then, husband bila dah nikah bila ha


Adam apa siapa tu (uh huh)


I've never thought of it that way, bodoh lah


majlis perkahwinan then it was cantik gila dia tepi laut and


like it by the beach tepi laut kind cantik gila like dia punya deco and like the view


true true kalau nanti hujan masuk confirm mahal it's definitely mahal it's a it's a well-known expensive wedding venue no no K see I have


this rule is that kalau I nak kahwin actually takde majlis pun okay actually ya, like secara jujurnya majlis bukan untuk kita majlis untuk ibu bapa ya ya like because


I've heard like a lot of times people like the the people the guest coming to the wedding are not really people that you, know or are close with they are just people that you invite because it's a formality that you have to maintain relationships yes yes


with family members ya, [kan] and like in this pandemic like you, it is telling lah that that's actually you don't actually need to invite a lot of people you can just stick two hundred people and and that's it


you know, ya orang kecil hati [kan], ya so


Inshallah, putting it out there yes I think my my family won't be nice too


okay lah good luck to my sister then


hi Maminah, eh hi Maminah how are you, okay you just started your uh NTU uh


first year right, ,


, oh, where do you get your books from


oh, oh, okay


, oh, then how about your professors are they okay, oh, are they locals


ah, oh I see I see, then what about your err your schedule your err what is it what do you call it university schedule how do you find it is it tough


oh, oh


ah, ya ya ya never mind lah it's okay lah I think, you can do it lah because uh the one year was like a sort of a good err you is called a gap year right so <tamil>பரவால:paravaala</tamil> lah <tamil>உன்னால முடியும்னு நினைக்கிறே:unnalae mudiyumnu ninakiraen</tamil> lah so <tamil>மொதல நீ தொடங்கும்போது வந்து இது:mothala nee thodangumpothu vanthu ithu</tamil> orientation you didn't go for any orientation anything


oh oh oh there was I thought because of COVID don't have, oh it's online


, , oh oh so


ah, but I think if it was like a on campus like the normal orientation then uh


<tamil>இருந்துருக்கும் இல்லனா:irunthurukkum illaanaa</tamil> because of this COVID nineteen ah everybody is like err , you know on their guard you know so online is something new too <tamil>புதுசா தான இருக்கு அதுனால தா இப்படி நினைக்கிறே:puthusaa thaana irukku athunaala thaa ippadi ninaikiraen</tamil> you can eh I think so lah but I'm not very sure


that's my opinion lah but, then maybe it's something different right ya,


(mmhmm), , , oh


oh, oh but just started only your course now you are in the fourth week right


oh seven weeks already oh so besides this uh uh before you start did they have any counseling, uh <tamil>இருந்துச்சா எதாவது:irunthuchaa ethaavathu</tamil> err <tamil>தொடங்குறதக்கு முன்னாடி என்ன செய்யனும்:thodangrathukku munnaadi enna seyyanum</tamil> did they offer you any of all all these uh any counseling


I thought normally they do but is it online also, so what kind of counseling you got did you is it financial counselling


oh, err <tamil>சொன்னாங்களா:sonaangalaa</tamil> anything about that, oh, oh oh I see I see


okay, so then now your campus life is into the seventh week already lah ya, ah so err you are a you know what you call it undergraduate now, how's the NTU how do you find NTU, how's the campus is a huge campus <tamil>ரொம்ப பெருசா இருக்குல அந்த:romba perusaa irukkula antha</tamil> campus ah !huh!


ah


oh, so that's quite a how long it takes you, an hour is it okay, so now most of your classes are online right you don't have or or is it you still have to go to campus


oh three days a week oh, so of all the courses that I mean you have some lectures and things like that what do you find more in uh most interesting because, you took a break well you did mass communication in singapore polytechnic and then after that uh


now you are doing uh, a english course which is a involves a lot of writing ah uh writing uh also a lot of literature what I what are you doing in uh which one you find interesting the, uh no no no in literature now you start right what ah what what


topic do you find so far in this seven weeks you find it interesting or, or challenging or <tamil>எப்படி பாக்குறது:eppadi paakurathu</tamil> I don't know how do you up to you


, , oh


, , , oh that looks uh very uh very in-depth <tamil>ரொம்ப கஷ்டமா இருந்துச்சா:romba kashtamaa irundhuchaa</tamil> <tamil>இல்ல:illa</tamil>


oh so


oh, !huh! can't you ask online because uh, ah I see I see ya oh


like my daughter is doing third year law and right she's got most of her lessons online so sometimes err you know because she sits in the sitting room and, doing do her err online classes so I can hear the professor talking and I don't uh err you know


what is that hear her asking questions but I see the other students in her class, uh <tamil>இருக்கும்:irukkum</tamil> you know <tamil>கேள்வி கேட்குறதக்குலாம்:kelvi ketkurathakkulaam</tamil> lah so ya I think but you need to get out of that mode because I think most of your lessons are gonna be online right now


oh, oh ya oh, oh oh, I see I see but because you said tutorials is still on uh in in campus right


so <tamil>எதாவது புரப்பாட நடவடிக்கைல:ethavathu purapaada nadavadikaila</tamil> I think they have right, ah CCA do you do you, plan to


oh, but that will give you credits right in your future uh when you apply for a job or things like that you know I thought uh CCA also plays a a important part uh, in your development ah when you go for your job


uh placements and things like that right, they have something call uh uh like I said Shina'S friend is err studying in NTU also fourth year she's got this chess club, I don't know but you you why don't you just go and check out all the other CCA activities and <tamil>பாரு:paaru</tamil> lah <tamil>என்ன:enna</tamil> I think it's okay lah you can do it lah I think you are trying to you know because of the workload ah you are trying to you know err sort of


manage your time and see how uh you can you know I know, even this week is your term break and you still have submissions this week and things like that last week you were so stressful I, I wanted to invite you over to come for lunch also you got no time things like that okay


oh


don't they have a photography I think you like err err photography CCA something like that do they have that, uh no no not that one ah


videography ah oh what what did you do when you were in polytechnic


ah I have oh okay okay


oh <tamil>ஆமாவா:aamaavaa</tamil> oh, oh oh, oh


a rotary uh like the nature photography or or they don't have this what uh journalism related ah, writing club or something like that don't know, I don't know I'm not sure lah but I'm sure you can


ah, oh to that school so others err other students from other other undergraduates from other schools, which school are you at


oh, is it more girls than boys or what, !huh!, so uh so your your your your what is it discipline


also, oh, your mass communication also a lot of err girls oh, I think maybe <tamil>நீங்க வந்து:neenga vanthu</tamil> like engineering <tamil>போனா:ponaa</tamil> maybe that one you see more boys lah I think so lah I'm not so sure


oh is it, and a lot of a lot of guys when I took the test you mean as what as a selective module for ideas that ya any, and then a lot of guys, what you mean as what as a selective module for NTU is it for you, oh why astronomy very interesting


uh, oh, oh, so astronomy is what is a study of, stars and err the solar system and things like that oh <tamil>அது பரவாலேயே:athu paravaalayae</tamil> so something different from your writing ah something


ah, oh


phenomenons you know and different err I think that one occurs only once in every don't know how many, decades or something like that, so this not a CCA this is a module that you are doing is it, oh <tamil>பரவாலயே கொஞ்ச:paravaalayae konja</tamil> interesting ah <tamil>இருக்கே:irukkae</tamil>


oh, oh, the day of your submission, oh, so how did you do, uh test results come, oh


oh, oh so what is your next assignment for that uh, so finish already ah, oh when is that


oh <tamil>என்ன என்ன:enna enna</tamil> test <tamil>என்ன செய்வாங்க:enna saivaanga</tamil> uh, oh, oh about astronomy lah


so then err besides so next semester what module you want to do, oh oh really oh


but american literature I think is much more uh broader than singapore literature because they they have a how many many years I think you you you're doing what eighteenth century literature now is it


, oh, oh,


, oh


, okay lah but I think err it's a lot of a lot of reading err you need to read


, oh, so you got to learn these uh techniques <tamil>என்ன சொல்லுவாங்க:enna soluvaanga</tamil> fast reading you know, within uh like three four minutes <tamil>அது ஒரு:athu oru</tamil> technique <tamil>இருக்குல:irukkula</tamil> you can read


ten minutes uh ya you can ask Shina she uh there is, there's this technique where you I think you should because you you like second year third year now uh uh <tamil>அதுக்கு அப்புறம் நீ வந்து:athukku appuram nee vanthu</tamil> fourth year <tamil>போனப்ப உனக்கு வந்து நிறைய:ponappa unakku vanthu niraiya</tamil> readings <tamil>இருக்கு:irukku</tamil> especially your your module ah so uh uh they call it a it's a technique how do you


like photocopy <tamil>உன் உன் மனசுல இருந்து:un un manasula irunthu</tamil> like when you see something when you see a uh like uh, uh like uh, a subject or uh like a paragraph for example uh you your memory can capture it in like a few seconds <tamil>அந்த மாதிரியான:antha maathiriyaana</tamil> that's a that's a technique so or maybe you can


online <tamil>போய் பாக்கல இருக்கா இல்லையானு:poi paakalaa irukkaa illaiyaanu</tamil> uh ah, , oh


oh, oh, oh so maybe that is another way to shorten your


like like spotting questions like that is it, then, oh, oh, maybe you can talk to your professor see how best they can you know sometimes they are very good at if you


weight <tamil>ரொம்ப குறைச்சுருக்குனு நினைக்கிறே:romba koraichirukkunu ninakiraen</tamil> <tamil>சாப்டுறது இல்லையா நீ:saapdurathu illaiyaa nee</tamil> just because stress ah


oh, oh,


oh one to one is it, online also, online or what, oh okay okay okay so


oh ya, how long is the consultation, oh no no <tamil>இன்னொ தொடங்கலயா:inno thodangalayaa</tamil> oh oh, oh <tamil>ஒரு மணி நேரம்:oru mani neram</tamil> depends lah if you got a little more questions I think each student they will allocate two to three hours ah


oh two hours maximum, going that means not online ah, ah oh so, it's like a conference call lah kind of thing, oh,


oh I see I see, oh oh, oh, oh switch he switch ah ya SIT not his cup of tea ah


then what is he doing in NTU, occupational therapy, english course so he he did he went for one year in SIT


so he already graduated ah, oh then he's doing what I don't two degrees at one time ah, ah, oh, oh


so then what happens to his course in SIT he drops out ah drops out he drop out is it, so he did three years there now is going to do another four years so seven years how old is this boy


twenty four so by the time he


ya <tamil>இருவது இருவத்தோறு வயசுல:iruvathu iruvathoru vayasula</tamil> uh uh like uh excel lah, so so <tamil>இருவத்திரெண்டு இருவது:iruvathirendu iruvathu</tamil> oh so he just joined this course so twenty four, twenty five twenty six twenty seven twenty eight by the time he graduate he will be about twenty nine


okay lah <tamil>இப்போ இந்த:ippo intha</tamil> COVID nineteen <tamil>இருக்குறதுனால வெளில இப்ப வேலையும் அவ்வளவு வேல வாய்புகளும் நிறைய இல்ல:irukkranaala velila ippa velayyum avvalavaa vela vaaypugalum niraiya illa</tamil> like uh like Valayamma also just got retrenched so uh


so basically so and also <tamil>அந்த:antha</tamil> company <tamil>நா வேல செய்ற:naa vela seyrae</tamil> company <tamil>வந்து:vanthu</tamil> singapore <tamil>இருந்து:irunthu</tamil> they are


uh you know leaving singapore for good so that's the reason why I got retrenched lah, I was one of the last uh, last few to be recruited a year ago so last last in first out lah


ya no early october already come already so far haven't so maybe early november lah, ah see how lah


err then is because I think that is better for me lah I don't want health care because ah, you have to go through all trainings and things like that again then uh, see how lah see what what we come out with lah, you say you met friends err in the NTU and things like


that then after that err err oh I wanted to ask you err since this guy was in drama right that one, doesn't NTU have a indian drama like NUS they have you know the indian cultural society things like that every year they <tamil>நிறைய:niraiya</tamil> dramas போடறாங்க podraanga theriyumaa</tamil> very very famous there I think last year they did what <tamil>சலங்கை ஒலி:salangai oli</tamil> ah I I can't remember <tamil>சலங்கை ஒலி:salangai oli</tamil> or something like that because they are very strong you know so it doesn't uh NTU have that


okay


oh english theatre oh oh what do you call it, epiphany oh oh, why nobody showing any interest, oh


want to do that oh, so see how lah anything related to theatre because, uh you know, okay then, don't have there that one astronomy that you did don't have any CCA relating to that they I think they avoid called robotics is it


they I think they have one what's what called called robotics is it, uh ah ya, but they have right CCA <tamil>இருக்குல:irukkula</tamil> ah, uh then ah


eh Shina was in the uh UN, uh she has been there since the crescent girls' schools they call it the model united model united nations where you argue as what the issues and things like that you know they represent a country


maybe uh, I think she represented one of the russia or something like that you talk about you know from russia's perspective model then she went, uh so if that ah <tamil>அது இருந்துச்சா நீ ஏன்:athu irunthuchunaa nee yaen</tamil> why don't you try


oh, but then in the one one year gap year <tamil>எடுத்தப்ப நீ வந்து இந்த:eduthappa nee vanthu intha</tamil> Mediacorp


ah


oh, oh okay then ah so, uh <tamil>அதுக்கு அப்புறம்:athukku appuram</tamil>


oh, oh oh


then this uh course <tamil>நீ எடுக்குறது வந்து:nee edukurathu vanthu</tamil> uh uh <tamil>எந்த:entha</tamil> err like <tamil>வேலைக்கு போறதுக்கு வாய்ப்பிருக்கா:velaikku porathukku vaaippirukkaa</tamil> like next year if they you know they open up and, ya which which universities uh uh did they would you be affiliated to to go


oh, oh, oh I see I see


oh, oh, because I think if you are doing like, err err what is that err, , american literature I think if you go to US it will be good for you right


oh little women by louisa, I I like that book also I read when I was very young were ya ya there was like a movie on a that also oh so you had good the professors found it interesting what you wrote


ah, oh,


, , how how do you think that book impact women today


how do you draw the comparison, the mother was trying to match make them, ah, ah


ah, , one of them was wanted to be a writer isn't it ya ya


, (mmhmm)


, , , for your career minded <tamil>உனக்கு கல்யாணத்துக்கு:unakku kalyanathukku</tamil> you know uh not, interested uh err in wedding I mean


have having a family and things like that okay, ya, oh


oh, oh okay so that was a very different <tamil>நல்ல:nalla</tamil> approach and things like that ah, ya, because err you know err singapore polytechnic err versus err like college like university <tamil>போனா இப்போதா:ponaa ippothaa</tamil> the but now they <tamil>சமீம காலத்துல தான்:sameeba kaalathula thaan</tamil> they say they give more err places for students coming from polytechnic right uh most of the time they ah they give preference to err you know


junior college students <tamil>வரது அது அது அவங்களுக்கு தா நிறைய வாய்ப்பு இருக்கு பல்கலை கழகத்துக்கு போறதுக்கு படிக்குறதுக்கு:varathu athu athu avangalukku thaa niraiya vaaippu irukku palkalai kalagathukku porathukku padikkurathukku</tamil> so <tamil>நமது அரசாங்கம் அத பத்தி:namathu arasaangam atha paththi</tamil> you know, they try to err you know err err manage that to show that you know that even polytechnic students you know will get more opportunities and things like that


err the children to go to polytechnic they prefer them to go to, college because college you know then direct entrance to university but then I think the mindset <tamil>வந்து இப்போ மாறுதுனு நினைக்கிறே நிறைய:vanthu ippo maaruthunu ninaikkiraen niraiya</tamil> uh


uh good students college students they are switching from a college to polytechnic now, right because err err they find that err they like the the polytechnic approach of err hands on <tamil>நிறைய:niraiya</tamil> err err err what is that they they do a lot of project work and


things like that so that gives them more confidence and things like that and then err two years in college uh <tamil>ரொம்ப இது:romba ithu</tamil> uh they some find it very stressful you know in fact my eldest son was in college saint andrew's college and then, what happen is that but he can manage lah manage then my second one went to polytechnic so he did business in err in err singapore


oh no #ngee ann# polytechnic so for him ah he he's more into like project work and you know err so he's and now he's become I notice that he's become more confident <tamil>நிறைய:niraiya</tamil> err err err err <tamil>அவங்களுக்கு நிறைய:avangalukku niraiya</tamil> you know self thinking they err they he can


you know expressed himself better and things like that so so it has got its plus and minuses lah like ya err college versus polytechnic and things like, that you know you were a polytechnic student uh you you


you preferred you think you uh you thought polytechnic would have been better, (uh huh)


, is it because you read a lot of books or when you were young or you had a natural interest for, or is it genes like your Valaiyappa Valaiyamma they are very good in english, I think I I Valaiyappa is better than me I think so


ah ah, , , ya, but when I was young I err also books was my err because those days we don't have much uh TV and things like that so <tamil>என்னனா நம்ம நா வந்து:ennanaa namma naa vanthu</tamil> enid blyton books <tamil>நிறைய படிப்பேன்:niraiya padipaen</tamil> enid blyton books then after that I I went to nancy drew then I remembered ah ah nancy drew


the detective series then hardy boys and things like that and then there was this err, book about err I never like science fiction I don't know why uh, so I like mystery I like crime solving, err then err what err like little woman I read I like I read the you know like they had the smaller version not so thick that one then after that when I then when I went to


secondary school <tamil>வந்து:vanthu</tamil> uh literature, was my one of my favorite ah then of course because uh I was my strength was in english uh languages lah languages even, like Shina she takes after me she can pick up a language, very easily like right now she's studying mandarin so so


what do you think because now I'm watching a, a lot of korean dramas I picked up a few words but then err, don't know so let's see how maybe I can


I I wanted to learn japanese actually because I used to fly <tamil>உன்க்கு தெரியும்ல:unakku theriyumla</tamil> then uh, we our base was in Narita japan, then err we had a lot of err but what is that interaction with the japanese err my I had some japanese friends and things like that


then that time I wanted to learn japanese but then you know uh, so not not much time then after that I just started family and things like that so family committments and things like that


korean language because ya maybe I should learn korean and japanese so besides


like spanish french, (uh huh) !huh!


oh, oh oh, oh, I wasted lah Shamir went, for this err german and then halfway he gave up <tamil>என்னனு தெரியல:ennanu theriyala</tamil> but he, promise me that he will continue with uh you know his german back <tamil>இப்பே வந்து ஒரு:ippo vanthu oru</tamil> university


PSLE <tamil>நல்லா செஞ்சா:nallaa senjaa</tamil> then they offer this you know you can take a foreign language, besides your mother tongue lah, uh did you have that option, PSLE leh, oh


uh, oh oh in october twelve ah, oh, oh okay okay, can lah no problem lah because err err last year was twenty first birthday now this year is twenty second birthday so


actually my since I I I work in this job err which I got retrenched I got


some err what is that the contacts who uh you know some of the hotel rooms they book but then what happen is that uh tourists don't come in to stay there anymore so the the it goes wasted so they sort of


then our government is giving that <tamil>நூறு வெள்ளி:nooru velli</tamil> voucher


ah, sixteen this year oh ya ya ya ya I forgot totally about that oh okay, so sweet sixteen, does she have anything in mind what what does she want to do what does she want to do


oh like like at where, any idea oh, but her exams finishing next week right


her I I remembered she telling me october <tamil>எட்டா ஒன்பதா:ettaa onbathaa</tamil> her last, uh last papers so far <tamil>என்ன:enna</tamil> that's how does she find the exams so far


oh, oh, , but she's working very hard lah so I think but what what she want to do what she want to go into what you call it the what, err what do you call, what what is that polytechnic what


polytechnic foundation program then she wanted what veterinary science ah what, oh


oh, ya ya, oh, , oh, oh


uh ya she's very creative ya correct, ya uh


oh, isn't there uh one that is like a government funded and and ya, oh


oh, oh, let's see how her N level results come out lah and then we work from there lah see whether err you know we can you know work something out and things like that you know but if she gets err err you know this what polytechnic foundation program


that is how many years four years ah five years ah, oh so what first year, she applied or you apply only after N level results come, oh, oh


, besides that <tamil>வேற எதாவது எதாவது:vera ethaavathu ethaavathu</tamil> she showed any interest in err other areas something like, oh then she want to do O levels lah oh


, oh is it, she if she gets a course in the err into <tamil>அந்த:antha</tamil> uh what polytechnic foundation programme she gets what she wants she'll stick to that is it ya okay


okay, what do you what you as a elder sister what do you what do you recommend you know what, what what do you, advise


, , , but then one thing good is that uh N level result <tamil>வந்த பிறகு:vantha piragu</tamil> she can decide right what she wants no need to decide before that right oh okay


at N level she did art also right she's a, oh


oh oh, oh, oh oh oh


, , , but when did does she she need to make this decision after N level, results come oh december is it ah and then what happens


oh oh oh, oh then err what happens if err what is that err if she cannot make any decision by then


ah oh oh oh is it oh okay, doesn't she need to go for any like counselling and things like that where


oh, oh oh oh oh


eh when you go for counseling is because you want to know what is it that you uh what is that err how can they you know help you you know make a decision, if you ya ya sometimes this counseling also doesn't help very much I think so ya ya


oh, like I remember elena was in a like a polytechnic the first year uh they had this career counseling and they they sort of you know uh ask you a few questions, as to what your interests and things like that and then they match her interest to what she would be


doing in the future I think that one like chef I think chef


worry about err what is that uh, so <tamil>இப்போ வந்து உன்னுடைய:ippo vanthu unnudaiya</tamil> term break


oh november, after your exam first year first first semester exam, oh I see


oh okay, , no lah then, because <tamil>இப்போ தான நீ வந்து:ippo thaana nee vanthu</tamil> you know you just begun you know NTU just started after one year break and things like that so sometime you know uh that's why some of them say that you know it's good


to you know err err what is that you know don't take a break you know but, I think you think the break helped right


oh I see, oh okay, ah they offered you a full time job ah ah then I understand you interviewed some people when then some uh uh what celebrities also ah


eh ya internship who did you who did you, oh I see I see for only her uh besides, #sara ali khan# oh, uh ah


#sara ali khan# is this eh #ali khan's# daughter is it, uh, oh so she was in singapore, uh, oh


oh, , uh, uh, oh


oh, oh, did you get to you know uh interview like any indian tamil guys ah actors, oh you're not, oh your, oh


so where did you conduct the interview for #anushka sharma#, oh, oh there is a wax statue of her in uh #madamme tussauds#, oh oh really then #sara ali khan# where did you


oh, is it, the, what do you call it, what is it what's the name of the shop shopping festival


because there was another at uh uh Expo what do you call it the, Salam Salam india, oh their different ah oh, I see I see


oh okay okay alright, so how do you feel after interviewing this, uh, so two people only lah so far two celebrities, oh, then besides err interviewing what other projects you did for SPH


oh what is that, oh


ah, oh oh oh, oh, oh, oh


oh oh, oh okay okay, okay, okay


oh oh, so how did it go viral people talked about it is it, oh, oh


okay how many how many views you had, oh oh okay so is can I see it on I didn't is it is is still on facebook oh so so that was one of your you can put that on your portfolio right, ah then what happened


oh, ah


oh, oh okay okay


oh, besides uh little women err what other books err you know inspired you


oh, you are like Shina is into this women's rights and things like that ah, know bar bra burning ah


uh gender inequality do you think there is gender inequality in your opinion in singapore, in, subtle there, okay so !wah! that's very interesting


so it is not, ya, so that is a problem is it


oh I see so there is a, ya, oh


all things like that okay alright okay, oh okay, so what about err what about this err err latest ah I don't know whether it will come under the err the feminism so called err category this err you know this maid uh party Liani case uh the employer suing her for


you know theft and then, what happen is that he went into the lower court and then she was actually err what is that sentenced to, two twenty four years in err twenty four months not, years sorry <tamil>ஆமா அதுக்கு அப்புறம் அது வந்து:aamaa athukku appuram vanthu athu vanthu</tamil> uh high court <tamil>போச்சு:pochu</tamil> so on appeal because uh


uh then the uh what is that, that she won the appeal because the high court judges looked at it and found that the the things that that she stole was actually err things that were thrown away by the employer and and the basis of this err police report made against her was because she wanted to report them to


uh to the MOM for uh you know uh giving her letting her work in another household which is against against your work permit uh rules and regulations, so then after she got a


uh, ah she would have been, labelled a theft and things like that but she decided that she wants to appeal against all odds you know and then for


so case went on I think four four years I think she got no uh, salary nothing things like that you know and then you know she still had the conviction I did not do anything wrong so I I I think she was brave enough to to to go for the appeal like what if what happens if


you see it's it's a matter of let's say her her her her pro bono lawyer put her case forward in and then you know list out, things like that you know the judge is based on what you put forward you know what the case things like that and things like that, ah ah


was he the same lawyer in the lower, court because I do not know about that, ah, he was then my question is how come the lower court didn't, no he was not he's not


took it after he went to the high court of appeal right ya, so then the question remains in my mind so okay so the all the judgment in this case ah if people never appeal for example lah then there might be somebody who is sitting inside there who is actually uh could have won if he had


appeal you know and then you know in singapore is not so easy to get a pro bono let's say if in her case the transient workers organisation or something like that helmed the things get done like that like if a layman like me for example if I get, if I get you know err err what is that


charged by like you know somebody accuse me or something like that and I decided okay I don't want to you know I can't afford


the the the prosecution singapore go ahead with this case when the in the judge the appeal court judge <tamil>சொன்னாரு:sonnaaru</tamil> uh <tamil>எல்லா வந்து:ellaa vanthu</tamil> the the all the things that you know <tamil>எல்லா:ellaa</tamil> like


okay the initially was reported that it was like a like a very expensive watch but actually it was a watch it was not even working exactly which came out in the court of appeal uh judgment like so you know when the that time you know it's the same thing like the there was this malay lady who sued the hospital Changi hospital


err you know err for negligence and things like that and it went but in the end before she could get I mean but she got her justice just before she died I don't know whether you remember that you know that, that was a another interesting uh so this one also involving a woman you know so it's ya I I maybe


ah ah


ya correct correct correct, (err) <tamil>அதுதா:athuthaa</tamil> (uh) then another thing is that now because of that a lot of people has got a lot of opinions to say about (err) you know this issue when initially she is the [one] that she [ah] okay so


okay, wait wait wait, I need to clap first okay , , okay, so hi Valiamma, ya, I'm fine how are you


ya, !huh! <tamil>எப்படி சொல்றது:eppadi solrathu</tamil> , uh, like the seven weeks just went by real fast, ya then


, the first two weeks it was really stressful because ah, not because academically needy at first and stuff but maybe when I first went to NTU, uh, kind of hit a realisation that a lot of things just came to me like oh you haven't taken literature in so long


ah then there are so many people who had taken literature, then in orientation it was like a lot of people just , you know just name dropping all the books they've read and all that then I'm just like ah okay, I bought mostly online <tamil>என்ன வந்து:enna vanthu</tamil> online <tamil>வந்து கொஞ்ச:vanthu konja</tamil> <tamil>செலவுக்கு கொஞ்ச குறைவா இருந்துச்சு:selavu konja kuraivaa irundhuchu</tamil> so you know it's easy to buy


the professors are amazing uh ya like my english professors are amazing


no they are, uh


everyday classes uh monday tuesday <tamil>வந்து:vanthu</tamil> online lesson <tamil>அப்புறம்:appuram</tamil> wednesday thursday friday it's uh on campus ya for my tutorials uh okay lah because of COVID it's kind of


I'm trying to get used back into the rigour of studying again, because ah after one year of gap year and all that


I did I did, it's, it online , ya that's when I uh actually I don't know okay so I thought like oh <tamil>இப்போ புது வர்ஷம்:ippo puthu varsham</tamil> like


so I went for their orientation and it's just nice it's online, but I kind of regretted going for the orientation ya because , that's when all the realisations hit me ya you know people introduce themselves then I got kind of I thought


it'll be easy to make friends but it was, not this easy ya, ya, err


ya, I don't know, no uh


ya, ya I think err ya it's there's not much err opportunity to talk to everyone because you know there's just someone facilitating and just play the games that's all


so it was just no like err you can converse amongst ourselves, no real bonding, and then on my first week there because we actually, uh they created a group on Telegram, uh uh for the course so the hundred of us are in the group and then


they're they seem to be pretty pretty close off so I was like it ya and it kind of made me miss my mass communication in polytechnic a lot


no uh this, this this is I already finished seven weeks, ya


uh, they do they do uh, everything is online ya this one, uh no no no like they just gave a very brief overview


what are we supposed to do before orientation lot of information on school the academic routines and neither than because of the school with nineteen other party, they introduced counselors only then they said if you want to talk you can talk


, ya


uh, no no I travel from home


takes about an hour ya, ya ya three days a week ya


more interesting uh mass communication or literature, oh okay, okay uh I


ya <tamil>புரிந்து:purindhu</tamil> uh like , I have two lit modules this semester so my first one is introduction to the study of literature , I really like that class because uh so bascially my professor he introduces uh the topic of


err he just introduces the skill first so like close reading so in the first seven weeks he focused on this skill of close reading we have to like really annotate and really interact with out text ask questions make observations and from these observations that's how we can make our analysis ya so it was


oh my god when he first uh uh <tamil>அதபத்தி பேசும்போது ஓன்னும் புரியல ஓன்னு விளங்கல:athapaththi pesumpothu enakku onnum puriyala onnu vilangala</tamil> like I every week I will be like wondering what did he just say


ya and I think, that's how that's how I find there's a little bit of a drawback of the online class oh I I'm like okay ya you can do it in your own time and all but the drawback was that, !hey! I can't ask my professor a question immediately I


that that I need to muster some courage in order to do that ya you see but if I do it on campus like I can just go up to him, ya


ah, uh <tamil>ஆனா வந்து:aanaa vanthu</tamil> phase three <tamil>சொன்னாங்கல:sonnaangala</tamil> like they say can go back to school and all that but I don't know if in my lectures will be converted to campus


my lessons will be, my lectures will be converted to campus but I'm not sure, campus


CCA ah, !aiyo! , I actually <tamil>மொதல:mothala</tamil> join <tamil>பண்ண:pannaa</tamil> join <tamil>பண்ணனும்னு நினைச்சே ஆனா வந்து:pannanumnu ninaichaen aanaa vanthu</tamil>


ya, ya


, no


ya, ya, I no I think <tamil>எப்படி சொல்றது:eppadi solrathu</tamil> uh, interest <tamil>இல்ல:illa</tamil> lah like NTU CCA all like seems quite, nothing seem to be standing out to me so far


like I have a something in mind like I want to do something related to, writing I know I do a lot of writing in my course but I also want more portfolio , do I do but they do they do


no but they have photography videography club but I know, oh I in in polytechnic <tamil>வந்து நா இந்த:vanthu naa intha</tamil> CCA join <tamil>பண்னே:pannae</tamil> called rotary club


club lah CCA, so you, just do community service, as well as it's actually if you have you heard of this thing called rotary international ya so rotaract club is like the youth


youth section of this bigger organisation, ya so , actually NTU has this it is a very big in NTU rotaract but, I feel very jaded after three years of rotaract club


I like the community service aspect of it and everything but the thing is, there's a lot of emphasis on mingling with the rotary international, people and they're very snobbish in my opinion


you know the #wee kim wee# school of communication ah that one they have a journalism club but that's more specific specific to their school, ya, I don't think they can


school of humanities, ya, usually <tamil>நூறு பேரு தான்:nooru peru thaan</tamil> ya very competitive, it feels like girls school, feels like it's girls school


but, actually uh <tamil>கொஞ்ச:konja</tamil> better than uh polytechnic polytechnic feels like girls school


like very, , oh Maliyamma I took astronomy this semester ya this module is under engineering module


a lot of guys when I took the test, ya anything you can take any modules outside of, ya uh uh I like uh science so I do


the solar system the universe ya, ya, oh


no I didn't ya , ya, ya


ya, ya I mean this this few past few year especially last year there were also several like


it's a module that I'm doing ya, then err there was the test last week on thursday when you pick me up ya, that day that day I had two submissions that day and I have the test as well, uh I think no no haven't but it was very simple but tricky at the same time


I thought it will be much more difficult ya, but is still very shaky, uh this one is just module filled with test and exam, uh there's two uh one more test and final exam to go, ya


oh I actually plan out like a four year plan already for my module, ya I want to do


so next semester, okay so I have to clear my core module first for literature so I need I want to do I have american literature to do but I don't know if I want do it next semester or, my year two semester one because I heard it's quite notorious for it's difficulty but that's everything I hear of singapore literature as well


I love american literature actually ya, ya, uh right now okay because there's another module called survey of english literature so I'm doing like old english like the very start of the beginning of literature so old english uh then middle ages right now I'm going to


uh we just started on eighteenth century, uh renaissance literature uh, then in my introduction to literature module uh well it's not very period uh specific, but uh, it it's just jumping around so I actually did shakespeare a few weeks ago called the tempest


and I've heard, in my second literature module also I have to do shakespeare again because eighteenth century, ya, not bad, a lot of reading, I'm not


when the assignment started coming in, ah ya


they never say anything like that they just tell us to okay


ya, ya


ya they get as , I don't know but my professors, are against spark notes whereas my seniors <tamil>இல்ல சும்மா ஒரு:illa chumma oru</tamil> summarised version of


no no is just summary of what you are reading like a very, indepth summary of what you are reading, but you can't use it for your analysis, ah ya


more than actually than polytechnic polytechnic I don't usually eat, uni I'm like eating a lot like while studying


, I think is a good thing, but <tamil>என்னனா:ennanaa</tamil> err I actually last week, my uh professor say oh since it's the middle uh it's like we already halfway into semester one then he suggested like he's open up office hours after the class


so I I was just one of the few students who went in, and I asked him a question no it's a it can be it can be one to one or it can be a online then I, I messaged him I told him that I, oh I'm I still struggle certain aspects of the close reading


so then he was like really kind I didn't like ask for the consultation but he was kind, enough to say book me for one consultation, ah I don't know it's going to be next week


one two hours, I got a lot of questions, I I'm going with a friend so, friend and I, it's online online so call


ya just amongst the three of us, I ask my friend along because I feel awkward ya, uh I also managed to make some friends also I mean initially was quite difficult like I said but <tamil>வந்து போக போக:vanthu poga poga</tamil> uh I actually met this this friend he was he's actually a he was actually my senior in


polytechnic like we were from the same school he was from the drama, uh course ah and I was from mass communication then he was like, then after that uh he went SIT occupational therapy then after that he came to, NTU, he switch course


ah, occupational therapy I was asking him what made you jump from drama to occupational therapy he uh, he told me he himself don't know, right now english same course no no english


ya, a few years in SIT actually, no he hasn't graduated, no no no he so he he he transferred out of the course from SIT so he's been trying to get into english for years but


he hasn't been getting in so that's why he just continued with SIT so by the time he got into his third year in SIT than english responded like finally accepted him, ya he dropped out


ya, he's twenty four now, I think two years or three years I'm not sure, he did he did already


ya, ya, ya, ya how, how what happened


oh, okay


hopefully ya, early november


ah, customer service


ya, yes they do, ah, I think so yes yes ya ya


NTU have but I am not interested to join all this actually uh, there's this CCA that is kind, related to my course that's called, uh NTU epiphany it's a theatre, society theatre lah theatre english theatre


epiphany, ya but the thing is it's dying now I don't know why, ya no one showing any interest, but I'm not sure if I


I want to do that also but I am quite interested in theatre as will, but I'm not very confident, ya, there are modules also related to theatre


I'm not interested robotics is different ya they have a lot of CCA, actually they have this model UN also I wanted to join but then uh, not, interested again


ya, ya model ya yes yes, delegates


ya, oh


I , I I'm more interested in the communication aspect because they have this writing thing so I want to, I want to do more writing because <tamil>எனக்கு வந்து:enakku vanthu</tamil> I want more portfolio I don't want to join CCA just to like


SPH, , I just want to have more, ya because <tamil>ஏனா வந்து:enaa vanthu</tamil> uh I I think the good thing I have is that I've worked


so okay lah it has some advantage but I still feel like I need to have more, ya you know ys


ya, ya and I want to catch up I want to do not catch up lah but just reread all my readings and ya, after that uh because, I have exam at the end of the semester


for futures also for future readings also I want to, I want to be ahead of time, uh year two year three ya have year four


uh, there's no affliation per se but, or england america or


asia taiwan, china also everything ya, so got a lot of options but <tamil>என்னனா:ennanaa</tamil> COVID so I'm not very certain


ya, , ya but american lit, ya is just for one semester and there are many more like I think the beauty of literature is that you know like uh whatever you like you have a lot there is just very broad so if you are interested I'm interested in american literature actually err


I don't think I've told you before I so for this course before joining this course they have a interview they have also err, ya they have an interview and a writing test so before the writing uh before the interview I have to do a writing test and I wrote about this book called little women


louisa may alcott ya, ya I love the book, ya ya, a lot of movies ya, uh so I just thought like okay because I wanted to set apart myself because like you know a lot of people will be writing a lot things I thought no one would write about little women so I wrote about it


and my professor was like oh !wow! you wrote about little women did you know that I'm american literature professor and then you say then I was like oh my god ya but I was like okay, so <tamil>அத பத்தி ஏனா வந்து அவங்க கேள்வி என்னனா:atha paththi yaenaa vanthu avanga kelvi ennanaa</tamil> uh <tamil>ஒரு எந்த:oru entha</tamil> book


I draw a lot of links to feminism till today ya so how something from eighteen sixties eighteen fifties or eighteen sixties how a book from then can still impact


women today, uh, because uh <tamil>ஏனா வந்து:yaenaa vanthu</tamil> okay you know in the book


a lot of that and also okay so the four okay they have both personal ambitions, okay, at the point of time the society the societal expectations of them to be wives, and also the same time also, they have creative ambitions the four sisters have different creative ambitions right


so the, ya jo marge she wanted to be a writer, then mag marge she wanted to be a housewife, but she's a good actress herself, then uh the, sick sister beth she's a piano a pianist then after that amy


she's an artist painter ya, so uh I was talking about how they were, ah a little women actually highlights all these struggles between creative ambitions, and while, managing the societal expectations of them of being a wife which is quite similar to today oh let's say if if we pay so much attention to our career we are labelled like oh


career minded and all that, like ya, ya


so and how little women actually inspires women to actually rise above all this and


pursue, take ya ya, ya my professor was actually, ya it was a very ya that's why I actually feel like after, the interview I was like okay, I might get in actually I was very confident of getting in


ya, , ya yes


ya, ya, ya, ya I went to polytechnic instead ya


uh, uh <tamil>ஏனா வந்து:yaenaa vanthu</tamil> okay so in secondary school <tamil>வந்து:vanthu</tamil> I took pure science, upper secondary so uh, ah I like science a lot, I think at the end of it I was like uh


because I think something that has been recurring throughout my secondary school is how effortless my english was, like I didn't have to put too much effort into it, ya, uh


, I mean, no err like err no ya I read a lot of books in primary school and I think I had more interest in english as well


but I also love science, ya maths was never my forte, ya


oh I love nancy drew


, , ya, ya


korean language


ya, ah, ah


oh, ya, might as well lah just start your korean


ya is never too late to learn something, ya, , ya


oh, last, ah spanish french arabic, uh <tamil>என்னனா:ennanaa</tamil> uh, korean japanese latin


ya got something german german got a lot of european and asian,


german, ya


no, oh <tamil>நிறைய:niraiya</tamil> submission <tamil>இருக்கு:irukku</tamil> actually Shina birthday, constitutes forty ya ya that's why


ya, ya twenty second, okay lah


ya, Sentosa


ya, ya, ya


oh ya <tamil>அந்த நூறு வெள்ளி:antha nooru velli</tamil> voucher ya, , oh ya Mosinah sixteenth, ya, sixteen years old


ya, I know she's planning like, I mean that that's outside from our family but she wants to have, she's planning a party with her friends as well because she has other friends who are turning sixteen so they are just


throwing each other a party I don't know any idea but but for us we should also do something, uh next week ya


her first three papers her first english so far she did what english and SS paper <tamil>ரொம்ப:romba</tamil> easy ah <tamil>இருந்துச்சுனு சென்னா:irunthuchunu sonnaa</tamil> ya she studied, ya she studied and she said it was very easy, ya


PFP ya, polytechnic foundation program ya PFP, I don't know but the thing is for Mosinah is that she's err she's gonna spend the


the break, uh trying to figure out what she wants before her results because, sixteen you don't really know what you want to do right to be honest it's such a big decision


like she feels like okay she likes art but does she really want to do art as well because art school is also very expensive, but then uh


creative lah she's very creative, she's always been creative since young, Lasalle NAFA ya, is very expensive, my friend is from NAFA and some of my friend also in Lasalle


I forgot about it I I I remember searching about it but I forgot already can't come to my mind


right now ya, ya, ya, ya


actually it's four years so first year is just the, you only get it after your N level results, so if you are eligible they will give it to you, to apply but err


she's, she's, she doesn't know but she was thinking if she really cannot decide she will go secondary five ya, ya she she feels more excited the prospect of doing O levels because she wants to be challenged a bit ya but I I think like but uh


ya, if not then secondary five ya I mean


uh, because she still cannot decide what she wants for PFP oh, uh <tamil>என்ன:enna</tamil> advise, uh <tamil>நல்ல யோசிச்சு அப்புறம்:nallaa yosichu appuram</tamil> decide <tamil>பண்ணனும்:pannanum</tamil> because really like


ya next year, ya that's why, no need to decide so right now, uh during the holiday she can err she can just relax just find


she did art ah uh, uh <tamil>என்ன வரைஜானு:enna varainjaanu</tamil> I, I forgot she drew back but she ya I forgot already what she drew but it was, I don't know lah she's very critical of her own work but I think should be good lah


ya <tamil>ஏனா:yaenaa</tamil> uh, my friend also told me that like okay like advice lah because I've friends who took N level they told me like uh during the break she should not like, let go of her studies first like just keep revising a little bit of your secondary four work because just in case if you you're going secondary five


december december ya, ya


july ya uh january <tamil>வந்து:vanthu</tamil> uh the results will come ya, uh, if she cannot make a decision then she because if she decides the PFP route and she cannot decide then she will be in secondary five


ya, she went for ECG counselling but she didn't find it helpful, uh career counselling career guidance counselling ya


ya, ya secondary school it's more useful at a higher level like if you are in polytechnic or university


ya, ya, what did she get chef


, , ya


ya, ya, ya, <tamil>அடுத்த:adutha</tamil> break <tamil>வந்து:vanthu</tamil> november after my exams


so so end november, ya, I cannot really


student ya, ya


but actually uh I, I think the break helped me in certain sense that I, don't feel burnout quickly, freelance, ya tamil


video <tamil>செஞ்சே:senjae</tamil> edit <tamil>பண்ணே ஒரு வர்ஷம்:pannae oru varsham</tamil> one year three months, it started as a internship, then after that it went into, ya, uh freelance


that was during my internship ya, #anushka sharma#, #sara ali khan#, #sara ali khan# as well, ya, but #sara ali khan# okay like Anushka right she is more established, but uh


okay lah she seems more humble, ya she just did two movies, is at that point of time ya she was in singapore for this uh shopping festival that was uh organised by SPH lah, then <tamil>அப்புறம் வந்து ரொம்ப திமிரா திமிரா இருந்தா:appuram vanthu romba thimira thimiraa irunthaa</tamil> like you know malay <tamil>காரவங்கோட:kaaravangoda</tamil> paper lah beritan harian right they ask her a question


then she's like oh what's beritan harian I can't say that, ya is not fun


actually I saw #vijay sethupathi# but I didn't interview him, ya I but I saw him ya, it was at the #madamme tussauds#, this one because she was unveiling her wax statue ya


ya, ya, this one was at the shopping festival so it was at the, suntec convention, she came to but ya


what would it what did, is just shopping festival, by by by Tabla, newspaper, oh that one the, forgot already what's called but ya you know Salam ya Salam india different different ya


ya, shopping festival is by SPH ya so, so <tamil>தபலா:tabla</tamil> newspaper, Anushka, two celebrities, but Anushka was like more direct


I did a lot actually I can't even like, come to my mind but there is one story of mine went viral it was called, three indian brothers married three indian sisters


ah very interesting ah I actually while doing okay it was I was quite pissed off from doing the thing because uh <tamil>அவங்க வந்து சும்மா:avanga vanthu chumma</tamil> last minute <tamil>சொன்னாங்க:sonnaanga</tamil> like oh can you please quickly do a video


for social media ya, ya Facebook and all that, no, I do everything myself no one, no, the okay so the journalist he took some videos but there was no like nothing I have to make a story of the videos that he gave so it's actually more entirely my own work rather than anyone's work


they just have to like I usually just do all the work, they I send it to them, three indian brothers married three indian sisters because literally


indian brothers means from india lah married three local, singaporean sisters and it wasn't like a arranged marriage or anything it was all love marriage so it was something, an oddity I guess because it's not, really a uh usual thing, ya


uh it just went viral like, people just sharing and like oh my god because it's a very odd news lah, so that's why it just went viral, hundred thousands, ya


Facebook ya, is still on Facebook, ya, I did I did ya, actually not only on that on my portfolio I also wrote for <tamil>தபலா:tabla</tamil> newspaper in english so that's how I can actually even got into english I put all these experiences together I put all this uh portfolios my videos my essays and video stories and my stories


but I just told them I actually had some journalism experience


uh <tamil>ஏன்:yaen</tamil> literature why literature, just discussing little women with the professor, uh how will I be able to adapt university life, ah do I really like uh do I like reading <tamil>அந்த மாதிரி:antha maathiri</tamil> so I talked more about my other books that I have been reading at that point of time to the professors


I talked about uh ya actually why I joined NTU literature was because I want to do feminism literature literature, ya I want to do also


yes I do, in in polytechnic I wrote a lot about gender, ya issues ya, it's it's more uh subtle


ya than elsewhere ya is is there, in workplace also actually if you think about it uh they're not a lot of practise ya


ya, uh like I think okay for example from my working experience I think it's just like, all about how, the male male journalists, are favoured more than the female ones there are not a lot of female journalists because of the


the, uh yea, ya, then there are a lot of more female journalists uh there are not very less female journalists than male journalists


ya so they are there is a bit of a inequality there and I feel like a lot of policies also favour men than female, and all that so it's ya so I feel I wrote a lot of essays about that so ya


oh


ya, ya


she would have just went along with that twenty four months jail, ya, ya, ya


nothing, ya


ya, ya, I actually watched the video the lawyer as well he actually said that like, uh, I'm not sure about that but I think he he was


eh no he was not ya he's not he was he took it uh after high court ya yes


ya I can't afford I will just go ahead with it, exactly


they anyhow say lah like oh justice is blind


exactly, ya,


oh, ya, but there's a lot of like also like class issues also against this in this case because it's really like a very high power society a very influential family against a very helpless vulnerable lady and she went all odds with the pro bono lawyer to like


seek her own justice I think that is really like commendable of her, ya


, !wow!, !siala!