and it was the major presentation and it was like err for my grade it was forty percent, it was during secondary four it was during secondary four but then


for that grade I got a, B three I don't want to tell you tak payah ah so and during secondary three secondary four, well most of us dah macam go through many things so like and sec three sec four ada macam project macam masa tu ada this international <NEN> is a apa humanitarian job ah so even before that going overseas right


we had to do that fund raising lah so like almost like everyday kita orang stay back and macam pop up macam this one booth kita orang jual air jual roti jual pizza and all, and until like the cost one dollar two dollar but then the thing is it accumulates lah so macam and had a lot of fun lah then bila secondary four okay by the time secondary four semua orang dah tahu that is going to be the last year and this is the last time untuk macam rebel ah bukan rebel ah as in show your true colours to everyone


then , I don't know like


all of us became much closer, even when macam ah the teachers like complain about us and then our class macam ah it's okay it's okay it's our class like that even like the teachers


but it's actually good memory like even like during stay backs or upper extra class during saturday ya this and there was this one time during one saturday our chemistry teacher showed us err pictures during secondary one secondary two no no it was a chemistry teacher malay guy err male guy male so he showed us during our sec one sec two during our orientation and we were like oh my god you were this lame or you were this short because I had this one guy during secondary one he was like err on my ear ear height by the end of secondary four I am at his ear punya height


eh tak actually I'm like his shoulder shoulder ah so macam everytime right I will like gaduh dengan dia kau dulu pendek then sekarang dia macam sekarang aku lagi tinggi so macam uh geram ah but this kind of memories like macam ah


so but for you, like since you already like from primary secondary diploma in uh, poly diploma in uh arabic private school so


but to be honest right I couldn't even remember most of my primary school days macam it's just like, passed by


no I think I was too young to remember that, oh oh ya ya yes


vanguard, vanguard ah vanguard, oh


oh, but then how do they split the class like academic results or just randomly split


ah because for my primary school like


like they like, ah separate into our six six, A B C D E F ah so macam but some more pressure for being in the top class second top class ah


but then like for the lower class right dorang like stay back like almost everyday then is like one thing kesian juga macam like everyone akan tengok ya but then but the thing I hated the most because kita orang the first two class couldn't like they didn't apply us for APEX camp


during primary six no because kita orang macam macam ah okay ah tak payah apex camp no I am more of a person of yang tak suka interact bukan antisocial


I don't label myself as antisocial


okay


was it a few people or just like, that one person one girl a group ah


oh she put the blame on you you haven't told me this about it


then what did you do, they put the blame on you, no like do your classmates suspect you as the, oh oh okay okay


oh no, so means dorang stay back longer than kau stay back ah


oh


then issac was six, oh then why didn't you like cakap to your


oh primary six oh oh but I thought you had someone who you knew, from primary six


okay, varsity jacket


, oh that clip okay


so you had to like


but did you realise everytime during camp or macam stay over kat sekolah [kan]


oh korang tidur eh, oh no because for my batch right macam everytime kalau ada macam ada Qiyam or macam macam sleep kat sekolah [kan]


and there was this one time it was the it was the guys ah, I mean like canteen


ah okay so ah so but then kita orang dekat level three kita orang tengah tidur-tidur tengah berbual berbual ah with the girls ah kita orang berbual ah macam gossip something like that, so suddenly we saw someone running to the school gate


like dekat parade square running to the school gate then go to the parade square and stand kita orang macam curious ah like why is this guy doing this such a thing like during like it was one AM in the morning oh one AM lah, then kita orang semua gather abeh tengok like, they got


it was a punishment


they walk around but for the female teachers right they just slept so like our girls sleep macam tak terganggu with any check


oh ya, like quite, oh ya, I think because right oh my god


oh the exam is in school


oh my god, at someone else right, no I had the same experience because ah during secondary three or secondary four I help with the book sale


so we had the books arranged at the lah so it was only like the four of us


that that lah, suddenly we were like folding something, oh no we were rearranging books to like, make sure that this section is for secondary one secondary two secondary three secondary four, suddenly we heard the same thing you know the macam the drain ya


then suddenly we like, no one is at school except for the admin staff and even the admin staff only no it was the other side, of the another car park yang sebelah Mendaki sense it was the other it was the other side so like there's no car


there should be no car beside us and is at the level one so macam eh, why would I know that's why kita orang dah macam curious then so like err okay actually me and my friend were like talking so macam we heard that sound then we were like


ignore this then we just ah started to talk again lah then we heard it again


ah ah kita orang rasa macam how about we err we buy drinks from the vending machine then I was like so kita orang keluar a'ah, add up bila dekat luar baru kita orang macam did you hear that


eh, oh that is actually something ah,


oh at that time you just ignore certain things ah ya ya


but to be honest like the chalet or the like house right macam scary like the vibe, serious


retreat ah retreat, oh okay


oh I remember


it was like the wallpaper like for photos photo booth lah


oh google google, no one no one, err


is at the end of the #pasir ris# park


to be honest I've never encountered this type of situation and I don't want to encounter this type of situation ever because to be honest I'm quite a scary cat juga lah


no because because to be honest compared to the both of us kau lagi rabak so I had to be the one yang okay with it so macam ah I cannot, I avoid, oh I remember there was this one time okay ah so ah during one of the secondary three secondary four


we had like stay back ah so this was during lunchtime it was on a saturday so lunchtime, I think it was during the lunchtime lah so macam uh so some of us like went out to, #toa payoh# interchange to buy food so it was left with only like a few people so like around six of us


so we played the was it werewolf or, mafia game eh no eh I don't know it was one of the games so we had macam macam ah


then the masuk no no it was not telegram it was just a website ah so macam dah gitu so they will assign the mafia or the spy gitu so for that game we had to question each other lah like okay so ah what is this place this place have like


what colour does this place have the most something like that so we played we played we played so by the end of the ten minutes or something we had to guess lah who is the spy lah, suddenly like all of us like no it's not us it's not us it's not me not me so we played that was like the fifth game so after the fifth game like eh who is it who is it because then we all showed our phone ah none of us is the spy then suddenly


ya it was a mixture of guys and girls lah so so it was like five six of us so we like, how about we go out from this classroom because like even before that right, we heard something lah at in the class it was a second level


it was the Mendaki side punya Mendaki sense punya side and was the second level and the other corner bukan the corner to parade square the other corner nak masuk hall canteen, so you were like, err how about we stop this this game because no one tau because we always like eh macam I point like someone else lah it was you then the other guy was no I thought it was you no I thought it was you so we were like who is this ah ah ya that's why we showed our phone lah macam no it's not us tak ada pun tak ada like kita orang tengok kat phone [kan]


eh all of us are like the macam workers staff at the place tak ada orang the spy, ah no the like no we macam they would like macam is there macam enough players kira macam this is like dah macam start the game so that only the players kira macam even we didn't like say the game pin out loud so macam none of us like


this one turkish horror movie, ah ah


because I don't know because like it was like with the class [kan] so macam the scary movie macam the horror movie macam tak affect tak affect langsung ah, but then the next day it happens so kita orang macam ya


eh I thought you internship first


oh okay, march lah, february march february lah, february I think february


because they have to tap to masuk right


, uh like apa with


shaun the sheep


(oo) ah, the contrast


hide and seek, oh


wait wait, which terminal, what


right now serious, okay cakap pasal horror stories right


like dia boleh nampak a few things like things that you cannot kita orang tak boleh nampak ah, so there was this one time kat dalam class, so uh I was sitting beside her actually my my table is like the other end lah


then suddenly my kawan macam eh why is this guy standing outside from just now then I was like, standing


then I was like because I'm quite macam rapat juga ah primary six and our class is at the eight level which is the highest level and, ya it's quite macam nanti ada connected to another building and that building quite


and I asked her lah, again lah if he is he still standing there because mungkin it's just a person like just passing by or something lah going another class or just another parent ke tengah nak tunggu their child I don't know I just thinking a lot of possibilities situation ya then


okay lah then I ask my friend lah are you sure like is he still there then she say ya from just now like from the thirty minutes from the starting of the class then I was like no can you see him clearly then she say ah


the shadow, and dia pakai baju black clothes clothing don't don't don't don't then okay okay then I ask my friend lah, eh Nat


I cannot see him, then she was like, ah, okay then for that next thirty minutes right I just, like imagining stuff on like on my right side of the class so macam no I was supposed to be at end of the side because that was my friend [kan] so macam I wanted to sit beside her lah teman for that class for that lesson


but then, that kind of thing happens so I was like okay okay okay I don't want to see anymore then I was like just praying that


window, oh macam my humanity korang IPT ah but then you don't


ya ya


you mean belakang as in the dekat dengan lift or


oh you in that level ah


the corridor ah, is it macam sebelah-sebelah or like face to face, oh


but was the corridor like well lit or <malay>macam</malay> dark


(hmm)


so you didn't submit your work yesterday


a'ah I can hear you snoring from the hall itu lah it reminds me macam aku punya poly days whenever aku tengok muka kau penat [kan] like macam it reminds me of my poly


that's why kau akan nampak aku selalu satu malam [jer] dekat rumah tak buat apa-apa actually aku duduk dalam bilik fikir fikir-fikir benda but then


eh but kalau aku boleh pull through aku lagi design background I don't have any design background kita madrasah we don't have any art school tak ada D&T art and craft I cannot draw a straight line ke apa-apa but then


why sia


!huh! but you are in a school what kau kat polytechnic semua benda kau task to do you complete what


eh that actually happen to me bila poly uh apa ni bila during internship whereby aku punya internship [kan] aku design web design dengan digital pin


during aku eh three to four months internship so during macam like the first one third of the internship I had to design something for an overseas museum


AR kira macam QR code tapi untuk AR punya system orang letak I pad dorang boleh scan abeh kita orang nak kena design that QR code


then kau internship sama-sama dengan kawan lah ask your friend to internship like sama-sama company like apply together


hire two interns at that point of time and is a good thing dia ada sebab dia more vocal than aku so macam because


it's a mural wall for a company yang dia dah buat cuma bila dia send dekat client client nak kena revise so aku yang revise that file which in the end bila aku submit balik sebelum aku habis internship aku punya supervisor kata aku buat salah abeh by then client dah accept aku punya design so macam (hmm) pandai-pandai lah kau kau betulkan aku punya file tapi client dah macam eh okay macam gitu tapi during aku punya internship was


do I know the person oh okay


oh HR


ah but then dia punya nature of the work tak perlukan dia to be in office lain macam like certain


!wah! rabak [seh] can't imagine myself if during CB imagine you, I think the year ones and the year three had it difficult this year


ah lagi especially kita madrasah student [kan] jadi kita tak pernah exposed to like apa ni people from different races, different ya ke like macam all this while korang berbual kat sekolah berbual melayu [jer] [pe]


ah okay lah like during my time is like total culture shock aku kena joget semua


ah kau tak regret


ya I remember ya you had a apa ni project during secondary school I scolded you for like macam !huh! benda macam gini simple pun tak boleh buat ya that is so


oh


actually honestly [kan] like since aku first [kan] among kita punya siblings [kan] so macam aku tak ada kakak or abang to ask things from mummy and is like totally apa ni dorang tak tahu apa-apa and they depend on me kalau tak pun dorang tanya cik Shahrul macam mana nak anuh ni semua [kan] dulu bila aku start pun kau nak tahu apa aku tanya kawan-kawan aku can imagine last time before kita ada internet at home


like I will go to the library my friend yang pandai internet, they will actually accompany me to the library and last time library we can rent hours pakai dia punya internet computer remember so aku pergi sana dorang tolong buatkan aku punya email dorang tolong buatkan aku punya friendster and things like that


yes it was really that bad tak akan aku nak tunjuk and you like what kindergarten lagi [pe] time tu like time tu I was, okay kau baru primary [kan], no it was like primary four primary six ya lah ya so primary four primary six yang kita jalan gi apa ni Bedok library no you know when I start reading book secondary one


or ask everytime nak pergi mana then I say or else mummy tanya aku macam kak nak gi mana nak pergi library so last time kalau nak buat research ke apa pergi library ah abeh tu then bila Abi beli computer letak dekat bilik that's when slowly but then kita pakai internet untuk buat apa tengok youtube video game


third daughter, can't


ah Mar anak nombor berapa then I say first then Mun berapa oh patut lah nampak beza then I was like !huh! there is a difference macam dia kata in how I do my work in how responsibility in how I act even though I feel like I act as childish as her macam aku merepek-merepek pun there is still a difference between


your level of Merepekness ah things like that


I had tuition is about mummy and Abi cannot help us


ah yes


I deserve that first hand items !hey!


but then kau imagine kau and last time it was not as apa ni is not an in thing


ya I only ya it's either hotmail ke microsoft so tapi by then aku dah ada messenger terus facebook dah popular so macam bila orang berbual pasal friendster aku macam (hmm) oh I also had friendster oh nama apa then I was like


I don't remember my handle at all, ya those were the days lah, but I would love to go back to those days, less stressful than now


last few years you mean


have to live up to the name of the monitress


but you are the monitress you have to be the responsible one oh so instead of monitor monitress other students is like monitress monitor


then why was he the monitor


oh class voting, since but bila first time kau jadi monitress [kan] was it chosen by the form teacher or also was yes aku tahu aku favourite child favourite student


going oh oh, the thing


oh where you guys go overseas


ah class ni tak payah dengar lah


oh because she was the same form teacher oh what, malay guy oh ya I think I know her okay oh


polytechnic private, favourite eh I think in terms of memories


I would say secondary, it's about the thing is we've known each other since primary school because unlike you you are the GMSN system whereby after primary six you pilih which madrasah you want to go whether you want to focus academic girl probably but during kak punya time


ah less drama more fun


so when it comes to secondary so all this while, oh okay I think for me I remember my primary school because the best year was during primary four


so she taught all this three subjects okay so during lessons where everyday kita orang akan mix so someday we just do all english


because she is going to cover everything within all her periods and everything and during that time we have YESCOM young entrepreneur scheme competition, whereby all of us work together you know one whole class ah like thirty five of us work together madam Rosanna being herself a creative teacher she like do art project untuk kita orang semua and that's how we became closer especially during YESCOM ah like even though there was six main members but behind the scenes like we came back to school during the june holidays


ah during the june holidays lepas itu kita orang apa ni buat artworks for example ah old vases kita orang paint balik to sell during our end kita orang punya tempat yang kita for the competition was at Tampines mall you know where dorang have the bazaar sebelah Tampines mall


no even now yang kalau ada bazaar dekat Tampines, yes so that was where we held the YESCOM competition and everyone came imagine one of aku punya classmate dia kau tahu yang vanguard sheet it's not vanguard is it yang colour colour purple colour blue macam vanguard sheet oh my god it's been so long since I used that word vanguard sheet ah


so dia pakai macam vanguard sheet depan belakang and then dia jual envelope macam untuk envelope macam salam kahwin salam hari raya kita orang fold from wrapping paper and at the end of competition kita orang punya class dapat eh kita orang punya sekolah we first time arabia masuk and kita orang menang dapat fourth position


all thanks to madam Rosanna so but she put the most effort lah because we were like only primary four kita berapa years old then ten years old we don't tak tahu banyak benda [kan] so then after that when kita orang dah bersatu hati bersatu padu primary four bila primary five kita split class


I also imagine like primary one primary two primary three and primary four, everyone was in the same class


uh


and also the lower class lah


antisocial, okay then, antisocial lah tu so okay back tu aku punya cerita so bila primary five kita split class tau abeh kita orang punya class ground level ground level [kan] so satu class satu class it all happen when mummy [kan] dah start jual [kan] kat situ so aku selalu stay back


so I think there was a kita orang punya senior ke apa tak puas hati dengan some girl from of course lah boy BGR so dorang macam unhappy with the BGR between class five A and five B ah so boyfriend kat five B suka girl kat five A girl kat five A suka lelaki kat five B but lucky for five B they actually stayed back during primary six so girls primary six tak puas hati


who koyakkan aku punya duty roster bila secondary one


ah ah I hold grudge


so lepas tu then after that after that whole incident


ah macam tak mungkin aku koyakkan by the time akak balik dia pun balik so all this while kita orang sama-sama but the other class knowing that aku yang selalu stay back tunggu mummy


then dorang ni ah


then I say you were together last year macam sama-sama apasal bila masuk primary five semua macam gini things like that so in the end kita salam and dah habis ah


we didn't have any proof that it was primary six but I knew because I know this kakak-kakak stay back, and I knew the history of all this aku [kan] orang tengah semua benda aku tahu ah yes


ya tapi time rapat dengan dia so ya


and I was so annoyed pasal dorang macam flaunt dorang punya because it was in trend and dorang macam flaunt and the whole group nanti ambil gambar and things like that abeh aku annoyed gila [seh] so aku pun tak suka dorang then comes the teacher day punya time tau so bila tengah teacher day punya time one of aku punya classmate instead of tolong decorate aku punya class


so it was like primary five primary six secondary one


but other certain students we are okay with them ah by then kita dah quite click then after that bila masuk secondary three end of secondary three kita ada secondary three camp, ah whereby dalam secondary three camp because we have never been in situation whereby kita orang semua sama-sama except kita orang punya macam apa ni tidur kat sekolah bulan ramadan punya time


ah level one meaning, oh


should be something stupid, girls


oh, I think the only time whereby kita orang tak tidur sekolah so last time kita ada STE was one week and


then after that during kita orang punya ni ada something happen again so kita orang tidur dekat creepy honestly even bila camp bila ada kat situ itu jangan cakap aku buat bodoh and last time tak ada cermin last time there was no mirrors then we bila dah new sikit that is scary lah so last time bila masih tengah kat kita orang semua tengah duduk it was already at eleven plus


PM mah then kita orang pun dah habis revise because we going to wake up earlier before subuh the next day to like refresh before we keep school because school kat sekolah [kan] exam dia esok pagi semua student datang balik ah dekat arabiah dekat hall


so was it in hall, no I don't think it was in hall it was in one of the classroom yang tingkat dua hujung sini yang facing parade square I think it was there


ah


except for staff, other side


oh yang sebelah security punya ya


the real do


oh ya, so kakak punya the more okay I


so meaning ataupun staycation ingat staycation dekat dengan old Changi hospital


our chalet time kita ambil yang paling hujung sekali [kan] tapi aku tak cakap apa-apa cuma bila dah habis the whole thing baru orang cakap kau rasa bila oh it wasn't only me


ah tapi okay tapi itu bukan the most scariest experience aku ada the one imagine ada satu kali tu kita orang ada staycation eh bukan staycation yang chalet dekat #pasir ris#


then the following year baru kita buat kat #pasir ris# pasal dorang dah renovate tempat dia so ah so that time aku pasal aku tak boleh overnight that day kita orang buat barbecue aku tolong the day before


so I decided to help a day earlier because kita ambil four days three night so thursday just ambil kunci friday datang petang decorate prepare benda-benda barbecue then saturday the event barbecue some more then saturday is the event sunday is the punya macam retreat pasal tengah ada submission


#kak sumayah# dengan lagi tiga kakak ni ah #kak jah# #kak nana# #kak nisa# so kita orang semua tengah bersih-bersih sekali dorang kena beli benda tau


so aku tolong ah #kak maya# potong-potong benda tampal-tampal semua untuk batik remember the batik thing yang korang dapat EZ-link, sticker batik ah ah yes yes ah backdrop dia punya backdrop, so nak kena kemas-kemas then after that terus dorang balik so dorang balik dorang letak benda and still nak kena keluar beli benda tau


so then it was three of us sekejap lagi tengah buat kerja thirty minutes ke apa later


you have arrived at your destination, Astaghfirullah Astaghfirullah then after that terus balik ah imagine balik kul dua belas lebih daripada #pasir ris#


ah ah ah


so like terus kita orang macam (hmm) that was the, the closest, scary experience pasal aku sendiri dengar I myself heard


mafia


spy lah spy four


classroom yang mana which classroom


oh ah okay, so you will like


but did you guys select the correct number of people playing, ah


but those one of the stupid things korang buat lepas aku it was polytechnic punya time like it was during FYP it was between kita orang punya from one class to another oh from one consultation to another consultation the session kalau tak salah eh


no it was during year three three point one where we still have a few attorney modules final modules to the end, ya but it's that is like the, other half, so macam daripada april to like before the september october september holiday I take a few module then after september october november is so september october november was my internship december came back to school for FYP


all the way till april lah, eh all the way to january eh march all the way to march lah


so what happened was the dia punya laptop computer is inside a cupboard so the lecturer needs the key to open up certain things in order for him to play the project plan everything him being him


the most creative guy ever


since dia is a glass door dia glass door kita kena orang luar boleh nampak kita but then the glass door dia tutup dengan projector kau faham ah so kita facing projector belakang projector glass door kira orang lalu boleh nampak tengah tengok so like macam some of my classmate dorang tak nak duduk tengok movie dorang nak keluar or lepak with others the mix ah from different courses or just nak pergi lunch so one of aku punya kawan masuk dia cakap eh what you guys are watching you know what we are watching shaun the sheep


the average age of students in the class were like what between, seven eh bukan eighteen nineteen eighteen to like the oldest one twenty six umur yang twenty six yang buka cerita shaun the sheep kau faham tak so we were watching shaun the sheep abeh kelakar-kelakar dah ketawa ketawa ketawa after that kita tengok cerita apa tau final destination five


the the contrast between the two movies so the friend yang shaun the sheep keluar dia masuk balik [kan] kita tengok final destination five dia macam !wow! you guys ah asal tengok one cerita to the other tapi kita tengok pun ketawa-ketawa but that was one of the best ni lah


and another best thing I yang kita orang pernah buat was, poly, I think sebab kita orang habis sekolah siang ke apa ke pasal that day I think that day was


we should play hide and seek at the airport you know


okay lah not now lah but, should play like if you have like a large group of friends to play main hide and seek paling best


!huh!


ah going to another classroom, thinking of all the possibilities that it could not be what I thinking it is


ya and then I ask my friend lah which I


and why you describing it to me now I'm starting to imagine okay


, ah


are you sitting by the window


ah


secondary four secondary five kita pergi malaysia, so IPT was when the graduating batch went a year before they graduate kita pergi overseas kita pergi malaysia and visit universities to macam kononnya future nak kenal-kenal ah universities luar singapore


so kita orang semua dapat bilik hotel okay lah actually ni cerita seram ah, so kita orang dapat bilik hotel so there are kita orang dibagi like our classes are being divided into three levels so example dia level seven eight nine so level seven semua guys


level nine semua girls, level eight either mix of guys either mix of girls, so there was this one time


and #kak mun# was also on the same floor so kita dua bukan the type yang akan takut because we usually travel go hotel [kan] so macam benda ni tak akan occur unless before this kita ada dengar orang-orang berbual which


unfortunately they did talk about or all these things that happen in their room lah so time tu kita ada ada macam seminar sekejap atau kat atas kat macam dia punya hall ah so aku dengan #kak mun# pun terlupa something so kita orang kena rush pergi bilik so #kak mun# dengan bilik aku sama level ah


so kita masuk terus time tu ada hall and it's a long way tau like macam ah the corridor macam panjang have to pass by around ten rooms, the room dia macam zig zag


my god, okay so, my name is Kazali and this is my niece her name is (hmm) okay so today, the uh doing this recording for supposedly this


okay nak kena we have to like code switch between english and malay, maybe, you can


your day today how was your, day doing your business, (mmhmm)


okay


where


okay okay, okay so you so you tasted uh before lah orang punya masak ke apa tahu bagedil lah tried it, oh


oh,


so mula mula eh I mean something you wanted to macam


and then now you sell to who, so straightaway direct to them, oh


(mmhmm), (mmhmm), okay


week, so it's just yesterday and today only lah, okay


(mmhmm)


boleh gitu


, ya lah macam ada nama ke to this tahu begedil what do you call it


Starbucks Tahbegs oh


but no lah ah okay okay bagus lah Alhamdulillah so you got this business going on and then I heard you also got apa tu yang the selendang business


square scarf okay


the next what, collection, as in okay so what were your collection so,


, we ni siapa who who you started with, oh okay so korang dua ni macam very entrepreneur eh leh, okay


okay lah Alhamdulillah ah, okay


nak cakap apa tu heartened lah I'm heartened to see that you are doing this, at such a young age I was thinking like I was nineteen years old eh how old are twenty one I was doing what oh I was in NS, eh actually no lah twenty one I was already doing theatre I already acting


I started at nineteen what, ya so lepas apa tu JC, after JC I was bored then I decided to sign up for all, I asked around lah I said how to go for audition right untuk apa ni how to start theatre how to do theatre


then I said okay then nineteen years old I went to audition, eh no no I didn't go audition I attend the workshop first it was a free workshop on sunday kat sub station so then lepas tu ya lah every week I go attend workshop I do I learn about acting


I was doing backstage work, and then apa tu uh one day like uh my first appearance on stage was as a human prop, they need a dead body but actually that role right can just use a dummy you know actually can just use anything ah is just the thing doesn't move you know the dead body doesn't move


somehow they get somebody cause kita free [kan] they get us to just lie there, lie there then after that I say okay so it was supposed to be someone else I was I wasn't even the actual human prop I replacing somebody, then that guy cannot make it so okay lah my job was just really to lie down I was preset you know so that means before the audience come in I was already prepared the covered me


and then somewhere in between like halfway in the, act, like in the middle of the show lah before intermission one of the character cakap what the character say macam oh who is this you know then after that reveal lah so like !wah! a dead body, and


then I can they can okay you can move now so I really have to stay still for like what two and half hours, I cannot sleep that's the thing you cannot sleep because if I sleep right I might snore I might move so it


you you try lah two and a half hours you do nothing two and a half hours you really don't, people thought very easy but actually is hard because, I had to learn how to I think I accidentally learned how to meditate


but ya lah because cannot cannot move what so my kaki semut semut you know, but then kaki semut semut you cannot move right so you need to learn macam your breathing and stuff like that


complain lah they complain banyak banyak about the acting of the other actors or blah blah blah then after that, the inert potrayal of higgs my character got a name higgs because he died,


watching the show and then second day they tell me okay you can stand up for curtain call then when I stand up for curtain call already she was so shocked she was like Astaghfirullahalazim she was like, eh


mula mula so not wrapped ah macam dorang ada cover dengan kain gitu ah, ah, my there will be a set [kan] kat belakang tu ada macam ada the table so I I actually so you cannot see half of me lah ya I'm just like top half I was like lying down like that lah so I


so my leg actually boleh lah my leg can move but then err just to but then I make sure not too much so that they couldn't see so that was my first, considered , performance but don't count ah they didn't even pay me [seh]


then no we were like training what we wanted macam training then after that apa tu second show I was


can you come over can you like, no lah actually before before that happens, there was one rehearsal a lot of people never turn up but then they say okay guys can you just apa tu can you just, uh take over whoever's not here lah so I was just doing my job very well lah whoever I'll remember how they perform then I try to replicate exactly how they do it


and then my director macam !wah! I never knew you can act eh so then she text me then say okay then next time can you take over his role lah because he's very problematic, so that was my first acting ah and then because of that I was confident to audition for young and wild for rice for


theatre artistic and theatre practice theatre practice was the first one first show that I ever did ah, I would say travel overseas brother, , so ya nineteen that was nineteen what were you doing at nineteen


, how did you start the freelance model thing


wait do you know he post the model entry oh okay


, okay


oh


, oh


so you marketing lah, actually itu ah what is influencer


what do you,


oh, (hmm) your what, , why


(mmhmm)


, ya actually it's true ah that time where I so geram you know pasal apa tu I got I was trying to promote one of the my programs lah when I was doing coordinating work right I was coordinating apa tu


my drama programs lah and then we'll try to and then this apparently they say she's very cheap these influencer how much they ah charge us ah, I think hundred fifty okay lah they were same they make hundred hundred fifty very cheap you know some people got even eight hundred okay


hundred fifty but that it was just on, her Facebook posts one Facebook post and one Instagram post ya and itu pun bukannya dia macam uh she write any oh no, she actually she wrote something but dia punya her posts were so funny because


she was talking about she want to promote our company, which is called Faust but instead she went to say oh when my son attended drama at another company, I can see that my son really love drama so please ah then she then she just put our blurb that we give her at the bottom


like we like eh if you want to promote us and then you start to mentioning your other company for what right and then how is that and then, the after that post is very hard to track whether apa tu yang the


that post has influenced people to buy the programme also what okay we also don't know, how what were they when they sign up where they get it from actually no we didn't have have have much sales ah, because after that after that post so we told her lah eh your your your influence is not very influential lah so how


or whatever lah okay your, your description lah, ,


, your post bukan they put on theirs right, oh you are the influencer correct correct correct okay


okay, so how influential are you as an influencer


some of the comments how


(hmm), true


Xiao branding, eh apa tu number, , ya so okay lah but I, so actually what was your dream growing up what you want to do


company apa nak buat uh


okay so , what have you thought about apa tu your branding about your selling point eh apa ni bising bising


okay nevermind nevermind let's go what were we talking about,


, , okay, can jangan lupa nak kena code switch sikit eh nak kena code switch melayu okay


like


, , the one who actually paying lah


(mmhmm)


noted


wait ah who are the, ah oh okay, okay lah


is Google eh got research uh, but from dari kecil from growing up you really wanted to do this ah


okay, relax [jer] just just sound, no lah don't force it lah don't force it


!alah! that one


, okay lah but, that's good you have a apparently early on already got path already, like for me also I keep switching switching


ah, , okay but in the end I did become some sort of doctor, no clown doctor is considered doctor okay lah is not is not really but I was a clown doctor so is a apa doktor badut dorang panggil


no lah I think growing up I very you cannot decide lah nowadays also I also think about it kita we always ask ask a teacher also right I sometimes I ask the my students very young ones like what, you want to be when you grow up then they cannot decide but it is just a fantasy thing lah I want to grow up I want to become


power ranger then I was like okay lah boleh lah power ranger but you know,


up so I was thinking like I wanted to become a dentist so that I can fix and then and then my teeth then after that I wanted to become doctor because I think I thought like


which side of the of the kepak of the lalat tu yang mana satu toxic yang mana satu what


so then after that I'll be curious to do that so I have a very specific idea I remember I want to become a researcher with john hopkins to study lilac, then of course lah that,


I was just study I was really focused on learning science but then , I don't know why eh oh I know why, because when I was in JC I was I was so I was always late and then every time I kena punished and I don't like to be punished then everytime before because I know


I know that you know if I were late just go doctor get MC you know get excuse right and then I just have very good acting , , , no lah no lah no lah it was just one of the inkling thing but then I was at my school got err theatre studies and drama which I wasn't part of so I was always hanging out with them


so dia cakap macam eh macam cool eh korang apa ni what you do performance and I enjoy that lah but I was in science I was in triple science at that time, planning to working towards becoming a doctor, but then it was stressful lah


and I wasn't doing very well in eh no in chemistry I think was, was it chemistry eh no physics physics and I wasn't doing very so well you know is it I like but I don't know why I didn't get A


so ya lah and err I remember my teacher you know mister Yaz telling me to like eh bila ya lah where are you going to, just drop one subject lah just drop one subject because they were they care so much about apa ni dia punya school punya standing ya they don't want they want to get us to get as many A's as possible lah so ya but then in the end I just decided to


uh attended this lah you know I do this workshop at then after that become an actor then slowly slowly, somebody I somebody asked me to replace them so all my job so far are because of replacement


this person tak boleh ajar ask me can you take over so okay then I take over then after I take over then say eh you are actually quite good ah uh, like that ah so I always like the replacement then after that okay then they like okay lah give you more job ah then now I started learn


, uh, like other skills lah like I've got to learn more about it, teaching then after now now I realised what is my purpose lah,


oh you went to watch that one ah ya it wasn't my first show lah but it was the first show that probably you watch, (mmhmm)


okay, , ,


ah ah, , ya tapi tu tu show ada banyak problem [seh], ya I mean I I love the show ah really I really help her but then


but the problem also not not not related to me lah pasal dia punya management lah they don't know how to sell the show they making lots of money even now you know a lot of people uh some of the, , !wah! this I don't know whether I can say this I on record some more uh but ya got big issue lah that one until now some people are very traumatised by the experience but not the show itself but because of producing the show


ya so that like in a way I have to give advice lah it's really about you say lah your marketing, to win your audience


how much to sell the tickets for then when you sell ticket !alamak! macam too much lah too expensive lah like I don't think people will want or like cannot afford cannot afford because we will we care about, the how whether they can the whether the audience can pay or not and stuff like that but then the thing is


then how you guys do it


you'll get loss lah rugi ah, okay noted tiga puluh minit oh !wow!


let's try one of these prompts lah ha,


okay, okay


cannot decide ah kalau makanan makanan nak kena lit ah


they always sell the #masala chai# in , very tiny cups but I think is less than ten cents if you think about it in singapore dollar in dollars


the Chai but in that cup the big cup !huh! can I I say ya ya ya


I I don't know I'm just addicted to tea lah so but I like ah #masala chai# ah you like tea right


, Chai basically is tea what, delivery !alamak!


okay, oh kita pause


is it still continue it's not it's not uh okay


maybe, okay lah kalau drink teh tarik kalau makanan I don't know, one food


if I were to really strategise it something yang healthy, and meets all so all the health requirements something like the vegetable, err, something with protein and carbs enough all


I don't know maybe protein shake ah not protein shake lah the one the one yang ada all the all the meals like, I mean if it's for survival


if your if your if I think about if you think is probably for survival lah but if I for indulgence, nasi ambeng maybe uh I don't know


for lunch nasi ambeng ah maybe something else, what would be the worst buy one get, !huh! what would be the worst buy one get one free sale ever


I just say for one is for one right buy one get one free, what would be the worst idea for that kind of sale


what about fringe, why would you need two fridge


buy one get one eh washing machine actually maybe one for whites one for coloured can make sense it can make sense


no lah but it's it's it's buy one get one free what, ah okay okay compare compare, okay okay okay, uh okay, if you can instantly master three new skills what would they be


if you can, master three new skills what would they be


then, , oh


(mmhmm),


oh, on purpose, why ah, like that you bilang you bilang ibu ah


oh eh okay okay, oh


I also not so sure pasal to me dia macam nampak macam dancing


(mmhmm)


okay then kalau martial arts what martial arts you want to learn, , okay


, , okay how important you think, that skills, nevermind scratch that question okay alright so for me if one skill uh I want uh


, I think martial arts is good, but if I try, I try not, but can avoid it I will lah ah, I did learn


I did I like one time I my friend taught me how to do one MMA move ah, the flying the flying arm bar I remember dia ajar macam mana nak buat flying arm bar, ya in in I I didn't really I don't really learn much at lectures but I learn a lot from


doing merepek-merepek stuff, like one of the things one of my friends decided to okay let's go okay we were trying no he was shooting a a a, trying he was trying to make a a fighting movie ah a fighting film ah


then they were were trying to choreograph some the steps ah then I okay then aku more to learn lah then he show me a flying arm bar, cool lah but , and I don't like to fight ah, ya ya ya so macam mana I got the video ah choreo but I remember it was uh


like ya ya so you you hook on to the tangan and then after that one of the kaki will, ya gitu sekali banyak kali ah that move actually they look a lot dekat apa tu what a lot of the fightings sequences lah that kind of hollywood


ya but then no lah I don't think, okay I also don't know, what three skills that I want to learn, I want to learn a lot of skills, I mean right now I'm learning counselling, eh you don't know


I'm learning counselling I I did a diploma, no lah just uh uh uh generic, a lot of the but uh just basic ones lah very introduction to all the different therapies lah, it helps also for yourself for myself and for


to learn about others and then they need a person, non-violent communication, which is very hard for, to do here


okay you know uh I was baca lah pasal okay can, so guess culture okay this question okay that I ask you ah kalau macam all your friend a text that you somebody didn't not your best friend ah think of uh somebody you jumpa every once a year or something like that


I'm using that person okay so let's say this person tanya okay Ayisha uh can I uh macam stay at can I stay at your place for two weeks, I like this person overseas and want to stay what would be your answer be


eh oh okay gitu [jer] eh, okay so some people okay I, some people they said okay to how you respond to it depends whether you are asker or you are guesser


they know dorang tahu yang apa tu if you ask a question there's always a yes or no, okay if you can like you said okay can lah you ask me a you ask I ask you a question can I can this person stay at your place for two weeks, then you say okay like I have space you stay lah two weeks right


but some people they might say that, eh, not as lama lah but they will say like how how could this person even, dare to ask me we're not even that close you know, you know


, we take that example is not a very good example lah like one uh like so so the point is in guessing right in guessing culture


you either macam , when you ask a question right you you want, or you always ask a question knowing the answer will be yes before so you don't actually ask before you do the asking you make sure


you can you guess around that it's okay to ask and they will say if an a guesser right would think that this friend, who wants to come over and stay at your place for two weeks dia macam kurang ajar lah very rude how can you ask me you know and we're not even that close you know


, the they should have guessed what kind of status that relationship is they should have guessed, that it's an inconvenience they should have guessed a lot of things stuff like that lah but then


in the end , in asia singapore a lot of us are actually guessers, right we don't ask directly and even with us we are not open to


so I'm learning about that ah so it's very uh and I err so so non violent communication, there is one part of it which is about requesting


like you observe situation around you you understand the feelings you understand the needs of you and the and the people around you, then after you know what you need to ask to make a request, macam for example lah


uh oh aku perasan apa yang you leave your, you clothes around ah you know it made me feel uh like, I I feel unappreciated of all or I I feel no I feel


that, uh you feel lah, maybe you feel angry or maybe you feel unappreciated maybe you feel, all you have to that you you, your feelings were not considered that you will are the ones who have to keep on cleaning up after this guy right


and then what you need I need, I need, ya this person to also do their part to clean up the house so the request is I the request is that lah I, if you could pick up your own stuff


, would you be doing it lah am I right, okay I'm not explaining very well lah okay but then the thing is, like if, an asker to ask that, if it is a western country I think boleh lah


maybe they can make make somebody plead and say okay lah you ask me then I can say yes I can say no lah, ya it's like a demand [kan] to me so it's always hard I was thinking like how ah how to


balance that out I try to figure it out lah, ya but won't,


sometimes your question is seen as a judgement


ya I see hard ah, okay come let's see what other prompts they can give us,


but you are following your dreams [kan], if you drop everything to follow your dreams, what would you risk


I don't know I just only last you kinda kinda nearby indonesia in canada africa you occurred under its eco guy causing like you do, , so formal


ah aku tahu melayu tak we don't speak like that what, , wait kalau kita cakap bahasa melayu [kan], who do you speak with usually


I okay this is what I learn lah melayu yang kita belajar dekat sekolah is not


that, that's not real lah it's not the code is not the what to say, in conversation melayu ah


, language


, I mean I I got ada kawan I do speak melayu tau I do speak malay with


ah no no kita tak pakai bahasa baku pun kita pakai bahasa I don't know they call it bahasa pasar ke but they is like


it's not the language yang kita belajar in school


, , oh no, recording interrupted


oh let's pause first oh shoot, okay lah it's fifty five minutes fifty six seconds, err nevermind let me ask her uh


oh no okay uh, let me ask, hi my recording got interrupted, at the fifty five


minute, fifty six seconds mark


okay let me settle, should be okay [lah] alright nevermind we just submit this [one] [lah], [oh] stop stop stop


Stalisha


my day today is very tiring obviously it's been two days ah I sleep very late


because I started a business selling tahu begedil selling tahu begedil yes, and so far it's been well it went well


unexpectedly but it's still so tiring lah,


quite recently eh ah like last month ah late last month when tahu begedil was was like a trend, , it's among the home-based sellers lah


ya it became a trend and everyone is like trying and I tried like two locals', tahu begedil and they both, have their


ya and then I tried myself, so ya, actually I've been learning how to cook, for a while because ibu force me to


but making this tahu begedil of course I only started recently, when I like crave it, and at that time there were no orders, eh I mean there were no macam kedai taking any orders so like I decide just to do myself


ah ah, customers ah


yes, delivery is, by my partner he because he also did Deliveroo as a part time, and ya ah so every delivery charges I will just pay him straight lah hundred per cent goes to him


this is only the first, the first launch ya the first week of it, ya yesterday and today


, I don't think it will sustain in a in the long run because, I have a lot of things to do, ah I have school I have freelance job I have part time jobs I have a lot of things to juggle


so I think ah this tahu begedil I will only sell bila ada time lah macam holidays, ya, go ah because this is not like an official business this is just like


something that I like to do and share with other people, and maybe like some in the future the menu will change lah because I like to bake also, so maybe like maybe the next week is not tahu begedil it's like, brownies or cookies something like that


branding, oh I didn't call I didn't name it but ibu and abang named it as, , Tahbegs Tahbegs, ya it's Tahbegs is from Tahu and Begedil but we make it very hipster


so it's Tahbegs, ya T H B E G S


oh ya I also own a small business selling Bawals, eh it's on hold right now because we literally have no idea what the next collection will be eh next collection will be


collection, ya, for now we only have two collections, one is the our cotton bawal and another is our satin silk


matte satin silk bawal and our cotton bawal it sells, better than our recent one, so and the stocks is like stuck up there because I guess we didn't learn about our customers that well yet


ah because me and my partner lah, ya we we


ya we like to okay the most common thing about both of us is we like to hustle


ah Inshallah !wah! untuk ah benda yang halal


twenty one


that young, oh, ah


, (mmhmm)


that's the best you can sleep, oh okay okay okay


, you are staying still for two and a half hours


oh ah,


!wow! okay, uh uh


I you like wrapped


oh okay okay okay


uh uh, uh uh, oh my god, they didn't pay you


oh ya ya ya


(mmhmm)


oh I see


, what am I doing at nineteen, I work , part time, ya at Starbucks and I was also schooling


at that point and also doing my freelance model, I start since I was, seventeen years old, , there was this


and then I was very camera shy last time, like tak suka ambil gambar and I don't feel like I was pretty to become a model a hijabi model, so I'm like meh like I I don't even bother lah but then my partner saw like eh you should try lah you just try then [orh]


I said no I don't want err I'm not comfortable with other people taking photos of me because it's very awkward, then say just try one and then he post the the the model entry


on Instagram, and, ya I did know, ah he applied to two ah company and I got accepted by two of them both of them, ah it was an unpaid job, for


until I was maybe, nineteen, so did, instead of paying me by money they pay me by, , by their apparel


so I was a bit stupid at that point of time no I I didn't simpan because the quality is like shit, it's like so bad and then then like imagine like the shooting place is like gardens by the bay then like the amount of time I need to travel there


and then I come back with just a piece of tudung for me it's like merepek so, err when it comes to nineteen years old something like somewhere there, tell me lah like oh you need to start


charging these people because you are having a lot of


and Alhamdulillah it also went well, ah, people also come to me to do to create apa to help their business boost by doing marketing and video edits


so people always see me as like the those model influencer but I don't consider myself as an influencer I'm just helping business to, sell their products ah, ya


influencer I feel like they just, take, I don't know whatever barang that the company gave with plus money and then they just look pretty on it, because I've tried uh an influencer before to boost start my Kamash the tudung brand


uh and it didn't work ah, I lost two hundred and fifty dollars, because ah her charges was hundred fifty for one Instagram post, and fifty dollars, for one IG story


and it does it didn't, bring any sales lah so I was like okay actually I would rate influencers is our customers, ya the most honest person and they can make sales and they they really spread the word and tag you know


other companies ya


(mmhmm)


usually before we post something right for the company we also like send the


what do they call it, , okay lah the context ah the context of the post ah we


ya the description we always like send it, to the company first let them approve apa-apa macam if they want to change they can change and then then we just write it up some people ah macam tambah-tambah lah ah themselves and then they


then they send back to us then baru kita copy paste and then put, ah on our post, uh it's our post because we are like ya


usually is like that, ah no that that's the thing that's why I don't I don't, consider myself an influencer because, I don't think I'm a good influence influence to young people


to be honest just that people a lot of people look up to me because I'm very hype, that's all, sorry, because like they told me lah like they don't know how I juggle because I was a full time student and being a fashion designer


is very difficult, and it's very time consuming so, there's people like, , they quit their part time because they really cannot juggle lah but for me I can at that point of time I can juggle two jobs my freelance and Starbucks


and like before school like I mean, imagine like school starts at twelve A twelve PM, so I work Starbucks from six AM opening to eleven AM, and then I go school and then after school there's a photo shoot maybe that lesson end at three PM or four PM


so the shoot starts at like six six P M until night lah something like that, ya it's like it's very bad lah is unhealthy also but ya a lot of people look up to me because if I want to work hard I really work


for it


I want to open up uh my own company ah, selling clothes selling muslimah clothes but of course not those you know typical those resellers or whatever it's just like


, from my own manufacture from my own designs everything


!alamak! we didn't sign up for a third party,


the company, , because all of this of course I did research prior


and, I am thankful that my school also, teach marketing, and ya I got to apply a lot of you know what I learn from school put into business and


like one thing that I really see something wrong with my business is not knowing my customers well and at the same time at that point of time I was like learning this, creative thinking creative thinking is where you


know your customers well lah and


uh uh, ya


yes the sustain is very difficult, and like


sellers terdahulu biasa about apa yang dorang suka instead of what, their customers like, you get what I mean macam they


it, hundred percent wrong in so many ways because we cannot just assume like that, ya and ya there's a lot of, that's one of the difficult things that I face lah when I'm opening this Kamash


yes, and, ya one mistake is I listen to my partner's mum ah she said like [orh] ni colour cantik everything whatever shit, but then actually salah ah it's not selling our first, out first what ah ah


ya and I thought no it's nice it's luxurious but, but my customers are young, so they want things very, simple macam not too flashy can be an everyday wear so our first collection was successful tapi a lot of people was doubting like especially families were doubting


like eh eh ni mana ada orang pakai cotton lagi [kan] panas [kan] panas but it sell out like a lot we bought I'm ten colours, eight colours already sold out, ya


ah we manufacture ourself, ah no uh we liaise with a factory in Jakarta, yes, research


we need a lot of research yes, , no lah I mean like obviously uh when you grow up


eh, ah my god okay it needs to switch, naturally


so firstly I really wanted to be a lawyer, I love debating a lot ya I love debating and then ibu tak suka so like okay then I say I told her I want to be a nurse


she said oh you know macam she tell told me all the negative things lah all the, cons about being a nurse, and then ah, it's like jaga mayat jaga mayat and then like


some personal reasons lah for me but I feel like it's very selfish of her because her that personal reason I cannot become what I want to become, and also another thing I like to travel around the world, so I thought I want to be a SIA


crew, but of course ibu also tak kasi because she say I will mati cepat the I'm like kalau ajal tu ada mati lah I mean like we cannot


those type of, incident, car crash eh plane crash ya, you cannot like foresee what, and


ya lah exactly then I was like okay sure, so ah basically ah, technically this what I'm doing right now fashion design is what ibu wants me to do lah


so I'm like okay lah since I cannot do anything else right I just learn fashion design and that's where I, grew to liking it, ya


ya first you said you want to be doctor, right, ya I want to be , what doctor [orh] an acting


[orh] okay ah clown doctor, okay, (mmhmm)


(mmhmm), ya


oh okay , uh


I can fix my own teeth,


!wow!


oh my god , so that's what, inspired you to become an actor


(mmhmm)


I see


now last time I remember the first play that I went, eh the first ya your first show is it


is the hantu remember, ya the first show I've watched and it was I think that was the most, favourite, like, ya show I've been too because it's like so nice and it's mix of scary because I was little masih kecil [kan] that time


so its mix of scary and like very funny then I'm like it's very interesting it's also my first time like, watching a theatre like !wah!, well quite nice lor, so, ya


but it was good though,


, oh I see


oh, (mmhmm)


ya,


ya correct, , ya that's that's the thing, usually people are afraid to set a price


, we calculate our expenses ah and everything, and then we just like divide it and then we see lah like we come up with a few prices and then we see a range like oh we can sell it from this price to this price no uh no lower than that


if it's lower than that means, uh apa tu aku rugi lah


obviously tahu begedil I I can eat that every day then after that I always doubt myself like oh I need to to control myself because


and not gain weight I will eat it everyday


why is it that nice, ya but not Chai I don't like Chai, oh really, oh I see


ah ah


tak, ya, it's continuing


ya it's a bit much


oh my god no wonder ya ya ya, ya ya ya, but you would rather eat something healthy every day the hell


oh okay you thinking far, yes, (uh huh)


oh okay okay okay


I don't know ah I feel like, during a sale for a plastic spoon people will still buy it, I don't know


oh ya, why would you need okay those like big things like tables fridge washing machine, !wow! such expensive


but you need to there's a lot of electricity, coming in what and you use a lot of water


first martial arts, ya, I don't know I feel, the penjuru is it the guru the head of the silat or something like that I don't know what what they call him


he campur with, no sister his sister yang ini kat luar I it was at Sengkang it was at Sengkang you know those macam got court badminton court ya we silat there


and then like I was training at, one point of time macam tengah buat benda sendiri ah and then like, tengah terbaring tau


and then, the guru is like macam gitu macam baca-baca then I'm like what the hell is this person doing like like what macam dia sakit ke I don't know anything but then I heard that she was


ya ya on purpose I don't know I have no idea, so I was like ya because there's


one of our uncle also was in the same silat with us siapa tu ah Ariff ah he quitted first and then we quit, so ya


I feel like is a traditional err okay one thing I learned about silat while doing my research for my FYP last time was


the their silat is actually, how to say ah, they hold their respect lah towards their opponent, like how to say okay selalunya sekarang orang kat luar [kan] dorang gaduh [kan] dia rembat [jer] tapi dulu masa orang melayu zaman dulu when they are in a battle


they tunjuk respect to one another first and they you know buka bunga is where you show like oh are you ready, to silat then ya, ya macam gitu lah, like are ready to like ah I want to challenge you are you agree or not do you agree or not ya


last time they really gold the adat lah, various lah silat Taekwando


a lot of things, it's also for like self defence purposes especially when you are a woman, ya


, but MMA


so you literally need to fly


you need to like jump and like, oh okay okay okay I can see


, counselling, no


for who for kids, oh, ya


, no violent cause


!huh!, (uh huh), cannot two weeks ah


ya, as long as you belah after two weeks ah I don't mind


(hmm)


ya correct, (mmhmm),


(mmhmm)


oh like to ask if you think like it's rude


is it, ya, I feel like the only, the problem with that it's just the people


they cannot they cannot stand being direct, ya


the see it as rude rather than being straightforward, like being straightforward it's like just say lah like oh apa I don't like it like can you like pick pick the clothes up, but to them I say oh okay I'm so sorry I will like improve myself I'll be like pick up the clothes


like uh aku akan ambil macam angkat ah baju-baju kotor ni but some people see it as rude macam [orh], so something like that


what if what, if you drop everything to follow your dreams


what would you risk, I don't know eh, ya the melayu so formal I cannot


!wah! that was so long time ago


ya and !wow! her malay is just, I think her malay is very formal, ya,


ya, uh, ah I also don't know eh but one of my friends like dia sekarang dalam uni and he is a


he major in journalist bahasa melayu lah so, when I see his works he !wah! like, I feel like, I don't know malay at all because it's another, language ya macam ada perkataan like tak pernah dengar and then like the whole sentence like what I don't even understand


so macam I feel like , it's more of


ya correct, it's, like singlish lah


we don't usually speak like this but


did you like


okay I can stop it already [ah], [eh] you haven't stop [ah], haven't it's recording


right, can


oh okay, ya


ya so you basically you don't contact them directly so usually how it works is that, err this kind of thing you have to macam mak bapa ah then sometimes they will advise biasa ah macam orang tua they have their preferred preferred kadi of choice macam they dorang have gone to more weddings that we have


then so they have attended more of the ceremony so sometimes they like the they prefer tak ah kadi ni lagi bagus kadi ni lagi dia macam lagi ah lembut cara dia berbual that kind of thing lah so so usually how it works is that once five months prior five month is it five months ya five months prior to your wedding err you go online then your date your wedding date will be available


your wedding date will be available then you can, choose, eh I think you want to start back or not cause I just realise I got a lot of red bars, is it, okay so basically err when you


when once your date your ROM date is available on on the website then you err boleh book ah then when you go in when you go into the website you can there will be a list of kadi available then all the kadi then they also show like where the kadi lives I think or where they the area where they prefer to where is most comfortable for them lah basically ya


can yes no problem ya ya there's no problem with that basically the the way they they put it is that because some people prefer macam oh takut kadi err they wanted for morning morning wedding [kan] so dorangnya ceremony for the nikah pagi so dorang tak nak macam kadi takut jam so kalau katakan they wanted to have a eight AM


what's that called where he lives is also err stated on the website ya so but usually what we do is we we you like you can actually go down now you can even go in and then you just choose a a random date


wedding date within the next five months and then you just , look at the kadi available, then after that ya you can you can just look at the list of kadi available you just choose ah say your wedding date is in in two months time then you go in and you see all the kadi who are available then you just screenshot then you ask both sides whether okay I choose this one you okay you okay okay both sides okay then after that dah then you can boleh masuk and book the once your date is available you can go and book lah


correct yes you cannot do it you cannot book in advance but you can go in and play around in advance lah ya, ya you can see how it works so what


you to finalise your booking yes you have to wait until the date the date that you want is available but you can actually do it now as in you you can go in and then you can preempt, like for me


oh then okay I don't know whether there's a charge for changing of date, I'm not sure about that but there is ah amendment there is ah basically when you choose err your wedding date then you within you can just go in cause what before you you you press confirm you can actually


change a lot of things ah, ya so what I did what I did previously was I went into website than I went to check out the kadi available, I screenshot then send to my my my my dad then send to Lina everything [kan] send to both sides then


haven't ya I I so I went to fill up the entire all the details so that err being a typical singaporean ah we Kiasu one so err once err once my date is available straightaway on that day itself I book


ya cause I don't want to like miss out on the kadi that I want but eventually on that day itself my kadi was busy so I got the I got his back up ya, yup


yup, ya, because if I'm not wrong you also you have to you you also have to book a date, when you want to go down to ROM if I'm not mistaken ya


sought after ya


err for me is I I think I did it at one AM on the day that it was available ya ya I I err you can ask Lina for it when it comes to this kind of things a bit macam tak sabar everything I I prefer to do everything early rather than than than late ya correct


is it kadi kadi I think there's only three or four, then everything else is naib kadi ya, ya is it ten is it oh okay


okay


your scope ya your scope is is smaller lah basically


I don't think anybody does any kadi reviews last time of course lah ya, ya but nowadays I think no one really


no one really bothered by is it I don't know, he's okay ah


(mmhmm) ya you don't want to you don't want to macam yang draggy draggy until macam kasi trauma that kind of thing [kan] , sometimes they they they they they drag all the ceremony and everything like then like the thing is like if like I I understand cause kadang-kadang macam the orang yang datang tak semua islam


you know [kan] that's that's one thing that for me also cause macam my groomsmen I have about four who are non-muslim so like if you were to have a extended err nikah ceremony with all the dua and everything with all the ceramah everything and then it makes it uncomfortable for some of them lah


that's one thing also but, ya you need like sometimes you want a a good kadi but then sometimes you don't want someone who, doesn't know how to read the situation and drags on like you know ya things like that lah but, I think I think it doesn't really matter I mean


I think I think the okay when it comes to kadi they you won't get in contact with them directly with the person that you choose directly until probably one week before


cause okay, so if five months out you book then they contact you they have like five times four


times how many weddings in the day you know that kind of thing like err like they're they're very busy lah so you have too many people to to to contact so but usually one month to two weeks before I think they will contact you, they will message you and then he will they usually the kadi will will for what happened to me was he he created a group a WhatsApp group chat


so included me and Alina, why he did that was basically just to macam ingatkan err remind you to bawa your IC err bawa then documents that you need to bring lah basically and then some time then err he will contact me or give you a he contacted me via WhatsApp lah he ask me whether I knew what to say and everything then for me I told him I


I told him I wasn't he ask me whatever I was nervous and whether I know what to say lah then I say tak ah err banyak members dah kahwin then I used to be I I'm their their groomsman and everything so macam apa nak cakap and everything all I got it down lah, no need to worry but for some of my friends some kadi will give you a call the night before then ask you to practise on the phone


what you're supposed to say ya, so, ya ke but like what I say when it when it happens to me I think I think you you remember I forgot that there was a reading part, they have to read that the the the script ah err post post nikah ya ya no stress also ya but when I read cause I'm I'm I I I I'm not very fluent in in err like when when you're supposed to talk in an extended malay or read an extended malay I I tend to fall back to baku ya I I cause we all we all grew up you know secondary school macam kau primary school your oral have to be baku [kan] ya exactly


ya cause I I grew up in a very english, speaking environment and so ya, with different lah, okay so the initial the initial kadi that we chose on that day he was unable one month before he said he was unable to come on that weekend because he was he had a family gathering family event so he said he asked his best friend or his his colleague lah basically to take over so that colleague was there was when that colleague contacted me two weeks before


ya I've not met that guy before lah basically ya ya the kadi before but basically then he just give me a call and then ya but when it comes to your situation itself right once you book the kadi that you want and then set a date with ROMM


then turun ah turun err on whichever date that err you guys have agreed upon and during the interview itself then you can tell the kadi ah macam oh err tunang saya bapa bukan islam then dia tanya like things of like how what is what's err SOP lah what what you do you need to do what are the things that needs to be covered during the ceremony to make it legit lah basically ya


yes, ya so basically I say for example today you check right then you check out the


the latest date you can book, then if you want to be safe, you just choose like a random wednesday or thursday ah you just click on the website then just click click click click all the way then before submit then you oh close the window, ya things like that lah but for me is like I just wanted to see what I need


ya there's a submit button ya correct it won't go through yup so basically for me it was because, I wanted to get the kadi that I want cause that's one that my dad ask me to get right so, I didn't want to get that time slot lose out that time slot for that one kadi that I wanted so I went in and then went to fill up the whole form then after that macam


, I forgot how it how the time slot is I think it's a two hour time slot if I'm not wrong, if I'm not mistaken it was a two hour time slot so it was it goes like eight to ten ten to twelve, that kind of thing ya


ya hot lah ya but for me it was I chose the eh no I chose ten to twelve ya, ten to twelve ya, I would say a lot of people nikah on saturday, a lot of people actually nikah on saturday and then wedding on sunday as in the typical if you want to talk about the people who do separate err double weddings I mean now is different but but


when my friends all got married previously all a lot of them got married nikah on a saturday and then wedding on a sunday ya, ya so but nowadays people do it all in one day so it's different ah different ah


!wah! I don't remember whether there's any charges eh


okay okay, don't need one not necessary ah they won't they won't try to pressure you okay okay if


like what is it's it's I would say it's, maybe twenty percent religious based eighty percent, civics you know like to for you to understand like oh if I do this what my in-laws think you know that kind of thing if I if I handle money this way what would my wife think that kind of thing lah ya it it it's it's it's more of that and then they have a lot of macam very open conversations lah but I find it a waste of time for me personally


ya so I told them err I I've got work lah they will they will still will pressure you then oh but we have classes on weekend and I just told them ya I work weekends and weekdays, so okay so when you go in no no it's when you go in then after you do the interview with the the head of ROMM


is not with the is not you don't interview with your kadi ya you do with with err the the head kadi who is in charge of everyone so he will interview every single person, ya so then you have


and the wakil from the bride, as in not not necessarily wakil lah as in just a representative for the girl side, so for me is I I brought mak ah, you can ask the mother


I mean like it will be better lah right like you don't need to be it doesn't need to be a guy cause I brought mak so ya, ya then you just bring the parents ya


whether it's a forced marriage you know that kind of thing ya so he went on to say like are you willing like is this out of willingness what's the purpose of you getting married you know the kind of thing ya err then he banyak soalan juga they will you're in there for about ten fifteen minutes I would say at least


ya, you don't really you don't have a conversation with kadi until like two weeks before your wedding


I think he asked mak some questions then ask Lina some questions and then, once it's all that okay and then ya then you go out when you are leaving the room and there will be like two kakak there will be asking you macam awak awak kahwin kahwin kita ada marriage prep ni eh err apa for you to go and then you like oh and !alamak! ni saya bila lah then for me right what happened to me was like dorang cakap ni awak dengan tunang awak boleh sign up ni bagus tau macam very informative and everything lah they were saying all the like like they a give long speech about it I said I'm too busy ah so then after that then they will shut up


I don't know whether it's free or you have to pay I'm not sure is it I don't know so I the thing is I didn't even bother to go because a lot of my colleagues and my even my aunties are telling me it's, not necessary they have not gone before initially I thought was compulsory


but that word everybody thinks that oh it's compulsory but actually what do they mean by you what they mean is that you should go not you must go that kind of thing ya, but the in malay is both we will usually use the word kena anyway ya so I think that's how it it spiral out of control then make a lot people think is compulsory but the thing is it has never been compulsory because it's not part of of err islamic laws what for you to to go through a course


ya so I did I cause when when it when when it came to my marriage I told Alina macam I want to cut out all a lot of the non compulsory things in in our marriage lah I mean to cut down all the cost lah basically like I was telling things things like like dulang it's not compulsory you know things like that then a lot of the other things lah like red wedding cake lah the kompang lah all this kind of thing all not compulsory no didn't have wedding cake


ya, for me it's, ya for me it's not necessary I had the ice cream cake in the end what ya ya ya for me it's like cause I I went to my friend's wedding I thought my friend's wedding had wedding cakes


I didn't get to taste like I was the groomsman I was the best man I didn't get to taste the wedding cake you know I I don't even remember they are giving out the cake, that that's the thing, some of them had the three one of my friend had a three tiered cake I don't think I've tried the cake like and and and okay is different like when you have a non a a non traditional malay wedding where the one is seated and if you have a hotel with an itinerary everyone watch oh now it's a couple's video like you know if it's if it's if it's a seated wedding a (ppc) a wedding cake make sense


you know but if you have a typical wedding macam kita semua macam orang semua tengah ambil makan buffet [kan] dorang jalan ambil makan everything [kan] a lot of the times my friend potong cake orang kat belakang tak tahu then like for me is that okay for some of them it all depends like I said it all depends on the couple lah some couples


is a is a western is a western tradition ya so some people some people say oh I don't cut for everybody to say I cut for me and my wife for that special moment I get it macam okay aku faham but for some people they want to make sure that all the guest see you know macam if you are if you are the kind of person that you want to have a wedding cake and you want everyone to see cause your wedding cakes are not going to be cheap


wedding cakes is at least at least a few hundred dollars ya so if you want it to to look nice and then everyone see but then like if half of your all your guests don't even see it then what's the point [kan], dummy cake ya correct there just like one slice is here but I I would say err like


it it defeat to me lah it there's no point to the whole to that whole part of it lah like even, ya a lot a lot of part of the way cause I I I was the best man for three of my friends wedding, ya cause they know I I am degil usually lah when it comes to malay weddings right a lot of the time more often than not the dia punya mak andam suka control


all my all my friends are guys so I'm always on the groom's side, so then the groom's side don't have pak andam err I don't know I think it's called pak andam ya they now now nowadays they have nowadays they they insist, some of them insist then because yes correct so the the girl the they they rent the baju [kan] they rent the baju then they would they kain samping they ask pak andam it's all part of money making process lah


depends on how many how many how many outfits to change some people change three outfits ya so it all depends lah ya so


you understand where they're coming from in a sense of that macam aku aku need satu jam nak tukar outfit untuk err pengantin perempuan nak kena satu jam satu jam setengah tukar rambut dia nak buka nak tukar makeup dia tukar baju dia one and half hour so they always try to dig out as much time as possible so katakan all weddings eh


all weddings there will be time time time delay


then like shit I need to go to the room then you will you really lose let's say you lose fifteen minutes here then you every every every other things right you will lose fifteen minutes fifteen minutes ya you want to walk to the room or you want to walk out with orang nak ambil gambar every take one picture one picture one picture you know the kind of thing right and then you no matter what every wedding there will be delays


so that's the thing macam semua semua tak pernah I went to any wedding where is macam on on the dot so it's it's impossible like there's no point of you macam oh eleven O five you come here like no point lah you want to


plus minus fifteen minutes is not bad lah you don't you don't macam because I've I've a friend who actually plan eleven O five kita turun bawah eleven ten must be down here eleven fifteen we move off then I'm like bro by the time we move off twelve o'clock, really, ya like you for the purpose for all those you must be a bit flexible with your timing that's one thing and then and on top of that you must know mak andam suka macam they know this cause they they do weddings is their is their living is their work right ya bread and butter they know how it works so they will always try to selit as much time as possible so for example


for me ah I scold my friends mak andam a lot of times already like like I met her I everytime I scold her because she I know what she's doing as she also know what I'm doing ah cause basically like say for my friend right


then after that they said okay we're going to change location to the they did kat ITE Simei yang makan kat sana lepas tu kat masjid dorang to move off they want to move off then after that err I'm supposed to move off at err twelve o'clock so


ceremony there will start at one thirty, so got one and half hours but then now is twelve fifteen eh no no now is eleven err at that point of time when it happened it was eleven thirty ke eleven forty five around there, then she's like I think we should move off now


[kan] then I need one half hours to two hours you know when you signed the contract she'll say I need one and a half hours to change on the day she will say I need two hours to change that is that kind of thing lah cause you also want she she also wants to like make the the bride as pretty as possible she doesn't want to rush I understand that but but at the same time on that day for my friend's wedding eh eleven thirty she said we should move off now


then after that she went err she she went to tell the groom's mum cause that the nikah kat masjid is the groom's side, the makan at ITE Simei is the girl is the bride side so he told the grooms she told the groom's mum kita nak kena jalan sekarang tau then the groom's mum err tapi pengantin belum makan tau


okay but that is the girl side my friend I'm the groom I'm the best man right my groom my friend


paid for the food at this mosque that he didn't pay for the food at that at that location what how would you feel if after your entire wedding you you didn't even get to taste the food that you paid for, exactly right so I knew how he's going to be pissed so I told I told I told her I told her no no no no no no kita pengantin makan then I told my friends to go and siapkan the food


she went behind my back again she tell the mak the mak err pengantin both sides eh err tak payah makan eh kita makan kat sana [jer] eh she thinks she can the parents would override me but because I I knew them since I was young like the my friend's mum knew me since I was wearing shorts in secondary school the that kind of thing like we know each other for for fifteen years that kind already


ya then she she was like err err tak tahu awak tanya salam that kind of thing you know ya so she cause she she know how degil and how angry I can get err so she's like and she know that I I'm the whole itinerary is is run by me so then the mak andam cannot say anything lah she cause she want to turn back err she know what I'm gonna say already


correct she's not being selfish in on her end, fully lah it's selfish to a certain extent but it is more of like it's for the benefit of the bride I get that ya I get that but but at the same time you cannot


forgo what is the rights of the bride and the groom ah right ah exactly kita dah plan dorang makan apa you want to tell them makan makan ala kadar okay you want to tell them don't eat you go ahead you go to hell ya so that at that point I I she sit at the at the pengantin table then she sitting down there


there are confirm people there are confirm malay people who are that, ya ya as the as the bride and groom you didn't even get to taste what you what you paid for cause my friend had a live err a Chendol station ah everything like in the mosque everything lah quite quite nice lah he paid for everything


then ya lor then he didn't get to eat that's no way man, you know


yes, no cause cause maybe initially her thought is itinerary wise the bride and groom should be eating at eleven fifteen, now is eleven thirty eleven forty five we need to go eleven thirty dorang belum start makan tau that in her mind by the time dorang start makan by the time dah gini gini aku tak ada time nak betulkan rambut si dia ni that's how she's thinking yes but for me is like


for me lah is I'd rather have them eat their food ya you have to be flexible lah in that sense for me like that's the most important you have to be flexible


you know but you cannot be like one or one and half hours that flexible lah you cannot be that flexible but at the same time that's why you as the macam for me lah as the as the the brides err eh as the best best man I have to macam keep everything running lah ya


yes transportation is is the problem to me ah that's why I wanted everything in one in one place ya it it you waste time in terms of moving from one place to another yes, ya exactly you don't know the traffic yup you don't know yup exactly


different person different lor ya so usually but most of them have like an eight hour package and then if additional hour you know one hour plus that kind of thing ah they won't they ya they won't delay some even would look give the next one hour free, ya because sometimes like my photographers supposed to be err end one hour earlier but then cause he had one a two hour break in the middle he gi makan Prata and everything I told him to go eat Prata what ah cause as I say no we we keep we reach we reach the hotel will be late at that time


ya so it's like err suka hati dia nak makan lah he was kat sini ada makan apa eh you are like kau tanya aku kat fort canning mana aku tahu makan apa kau gi makan cari kedai Prata, err I got one two friends who did photo shoot at fort canning two did at Bedok reservoir


ya, ya


yes, makeup artiste, but I I guess right that part I will leave it to Dewi


like for me I leave it to Alina like for me I leave it to Alina on how you want to to but the thing is like Alina also didn't have experience like but she had she has to do her part to do the research mah, ya she for me it's like I gave her like I told her mak andam makeup artist you handle you pay


I told her macam that is all on you, like how much you want to spend I'm not going to like you know you can only spent two hundred like I'm not going to be that kind of person like you want if you think you need five hundred five hundred dollar makeup artist then you go and find the five hundred dollar mark up artist then you go and save yourself, like I'm not going to make you pay for my shoes you know that kind of thing like if I buy a tie if I buy a shoe is like eh I cannot be splitting it right down the middle ah right plus I don't need makeup but then if I want to cut my hair I want have a fifty dollar haircut then you like eh our budget twenty dollar then you will feel like eh I want fifty dollar my problem lah


I pay myself what that kind of thing ya exactly so what you want ya cause it's not a, it's not a macam a combined expense like the makeup part is not a combined expense to me so I told her that one if you you find yourself you you going and recce yourself because I cannot tell you macam maybe some makeup artists oh this is hundred dollars that one is two hundred dollars but then the hundred dollar one


don't know how to play with your skin tone because maybe she always do malay girls who are darker skin tone then she doesn't know how to do a light the lighter skin tone her her her her makeup box don't have err chinese skin tone you know that kind of thing ya then she she she cannot play around with it so ya you cannot really control like that lah ya


for me it's like let let them, like let them let her go and search through Instagram, salons ya can also you mean you can you can do that also but you can also


like I would say, not necessarily there are people who do that actually who do the like even the whole hairdo and everything and and and and do it there you you that is actually a a a decent option,


, but but sometimes you don't know how how how good they are sekali they make you look like a Nyonya you know that kind of thing you also don't know (ppc) ya, ya but but like I say these kind of thing suruh Dewi pergi Instagram go and stalk people lah


ah you can just search makeup artist or mak andam then you just search search search or you can even when you look for photographer and they will always tag all the people then you go and check oh !wah! her makeup very nice ah look very natural and you go see oh it's done by this person then you go click her then you go and message ask Dewi to message her Alina I think messaged like at least five to six people on on Instagram err for for quotations


, ya not necessary mak andam would be worth it if you are planning to rent baju I would say


but then sometimes like I don't buy like I actually only need the baju kurung you know that kind of thing I don't need the second part second part I got my own err western baju for example [kan] then you don't need things like that ya


yes then they always have but the thing is sometimes it's it's smart to do it with them because they have all the connection like if you do it with their friend then you can you know like if you do the photographer with this guy with this mak andam then she will give you discounts ah that kind of thing lah ya they all have like their full package


of course now COVID nineteen you don't get to go to expo to see all the wedding err expo and everything [kan] so it's a bit different ah, it's up to you I would say okay so that's why okay that's why macam your


if you are planning to do a a photoshoot after are you going to tukar baju from are you going to change outfit or not change outfit that's one thing and if you are going to change outfit and are you going to reapply makeup not reapply makeup, ya so if you reapply makeup is a whole new cost


ya because they have to wash everything off then put put everything on again ya, that would be your wedding photography ah ya because usually people have a package like eight hour package that kind of thing lah ya


yes, it's a good go do that, but you also have to see I would say where you want to do it for your photography, okay like where's your location


if you do it at the peranakan house over there first first and foremost, it's on the sunday there's going to be a lot of people walking around that's one thing secondly if it rains, ya


(mmhmm) can do that also, err I guess so I don't know different hotel different, ya must sign agreement ya for me when I when I ask for fort canning I sign the agreement


but you don't you you have to ask hotels like some some buildings even if you ask talk about peranakan place lah if you want them to cordon of anything some places give it for free some people some places you've you have to pay ya so it it, exactly ya it is it's not raining and if it wet weather is all settled lah I would say


can I mean if the hotel has a nice pool you guys can do outdoor that kind of thing nearby the pool, I would say recce the hotel, can


I will probably be be booking a room at, the, indigo hotel next door, ya I mean like when you the the hotel is peranakan themed


ya so I don't know whether if you if you want to hop over there to take to take picture or whatever it's is fine by it's by us lah, ya it is quite nice also over there on the wedding day itself lah ya


as in your wedding day lah I want to book the indigo room over there oh no need lah ya we we we we can because I I am a IHG member, ya so I like to I like if if I if I have an opportunity to book hotel with the Holiday Inn group I always book cause can get points oh no need lah no need no it's okay ya cause my hotel the hotel is going to be just next door anyway is like one street away


ya yours is it the village hotel and the street just before that is the indigo hotel no need no need no need, I mean if you want to get just get for her parents and mak then that's it lah for the rest of us all we can can settle ourselves lah


, I would say it's, it's very manageable it's it's it's you have to


plan it out well lah I would say err okay so basically, you have to see, yes ya so yes so how many tables you have how many guest you have and you must understand the turnover rate


so the good thing was my, me and Alina did not see that coming like we didn't think about that but my decor, !wah! she the that that that girl is amazing ah ya no no no she she she thought about all this she says I you cause okay every table is extra cost


so if you open one more table is another fifty dollars for example like you know the table and the chair and everything so she said okay I'm going to give you about how many chairs extra


but, at the same time you cannot expect people dah makan jalan ah is okay you also cannot expect dah makan jalan lah you know that kind of thing ah eh kau dah makan angkat pinggan mangkuk jalan lah you cannot do that what right


ya it's all it's all my cousins lor all sit inside ya exactly so but the thing is ya you cannot expect and everyone comes at a certain time at very early [kan] ya, cause it's a three hour wedding then they also oh might as well aku dah datang pukul sebelas might as well aku datang pukul sepuluh tengok dorang nikah you know that kind of thing ya so ya even the nikah all the chairs all were filled quite full initially I thought is like I ready at ten then I was like !wah! I didn't expect everybody to reach here by ten


ya a lot of them were my my colleagues lah basically my SIA colleagues, but ya, ya so that that is one thing that you have to think about err the turnover rate how many tables you have how many sitting how many seats you have for eating and how many guests are you bringing in


ya so that's that's pretty important lah


we didn't walk in, ya nikah it started off with nikah Alina seated Alina seated already then after that I I just, sit down there ya cause we got no kompang or nothing what, ya dah habis ambil gambar kita makan ya


okay


okay I will say I'll put it this way, if your ceremony is three hours book four hours, ya then if you if you if you have a four hour slot make your your entire thing three and half hours or three hours because no matter what there is always going to be delay like no wedding no wedding runs on point ya no wedding runs on point I've I've I've been a best man for so many wedding no wedding run runs on point


the kalau tak nak stress


like for me I I cause I've I've done a wedding where my friend, where the wife is pretty controlling of the entire itinerary the one I told you macam he eleven oh eleven O five we must leave the house eleven ten nak kena ke bawah eleven fifteen you kita jalan then like


I was like


ya she don't care she's not going to let you walk out of the room and spoil her reputation you know that kind of thing ya so that's why they're always very pushy in terms of time lah from mak andam we get I get that and everything but the same time macam as a bride and groom to me is like you must be flexible with your time mah you cannot be cannot be very fixated on on oh this needs to be done by this time this need to be done by this time the eventual


the eventual result is that everything needs to end by twelve thirty then that that is your cut off you know dua belas tak boleh ah but anything before that you want to change anything kira for me is like now you can be flexible


okay then how is it going to be done like what's the transition like


things like that lah


(mmhmm) I would say you don't need to worry about the activity ah people will just take picture with you lah, can


I've been I've been to two weddings already this COVID period no such thing eh no one no one cares lah


my the recent one with my with my err sister in law's brother we did at err malay council, you know they walk through the whole restaurant


I mean that is considering is still during this period ah I mean yours is going to be five week five months later I don't think it'll be a lot more lepak ah now it's like so strict I've got I went to two weddings no like no no problem


ya no problem lah


no need lah okay for for my wedding personal okay but the thing is I don't know I didn't do a hotel wedding so I I don't I I don't know oh but personally I don't think an emcee is ever required because they don't have a groomsman or a friend who who who can make announcement that's it


that's it you just need one person to make announcement that's it, you know you you have never there was never been a need for you to pay for someone to me ah especially I mean unless you are during an event a wedding is something intimate now tau macam yang datang members members kau sendiri then macam kalau nak ada bayar I mean you


no but the two weddings I been to also, the emcee the emcee there's no emcee one one of them is just the the they just err okay err dia they just ah okay ah keluarga ni ambil gambar keluarga ni ambil gambar that kind of thing then after that my the my sister-in-law's brother is her uncle okay would like to say thank you for everybody to come gitu gitu just someone to make an announcement that's it ya


I've I've I've always macam felt that, a wedding emcee unless he's a friend, if you pay a stranger it's !wah! you got a lot money, to me lah personally