so I saw them dia selalu tidur under the this lorry because orang pun tak kerja so they were like always sleeping the three of them, under the lorry so when you know people started going back to work when it was what when did we go back july june june ya then they disappeared


so I don't know what happened to them ya ya so during circuit breaker when there were a lot of animals not just the kucing but the aunties still came around to feed the cats that one betul I always see that


ya it was a good period when we had the circuit breaker because there were lots of birds that every morning I could hear them it was nice we had kat depan ni right in front here there's these two big palm trees [kan] so


the imperial pied pigeon came during the circuit breaker which is not a common sighting in this neighbourhood macam this HDB once or twice we've seen them along the macam apa tu the park connector here at #bukit batok# going up to Clementi but they came here the whole there were like there first of all dia hantar satu agaknya macam scout came scout nampak pokok ni scout stayed there so I took gambar lah dengan camera tu and then the next week few more came


yes because they eat the apa ni I don't know what the fruit is of this thing the family came imperial pied piegon it was really nice here ya I have pictures of them, and now they don't come anymore


I haven't seen them


the pied imperial pigeons we saw a lot so that was really nice but now, you I don't you go down to the park connector I don't see the otters anymore uh even, the animals crossing the path tak ada lagi during circuit breaker you could see different kinds of animals


from the snails to the millipedes centipedes, all crossing your path and everyone would have to avoid them, I don't see the animals anymore, egrets once in a while ya


it's just the regular birds the Minahs the pigeons ya I I don't know where the other the other animals are, uh but it was nice it was nice because at then even then the otters came out and everybody would stop and they would do their swimming swimming but tu macam exhibitionist tau the otters are huge exhibitionists


yes, okay we don't get those kinds of otters in the in the longkang where did they go to the uh the botanic garden


so they came out macam every night,


of sudden, but now there are people at the botanic gardens [kan] not like before, (hmm)


but they're not the ones yang kat dalam longkang ni they're not that big dekat sini kat park connector the one that goes up to Pandan


like different kinds of otters


what do you mean mana ada clan, okay


what is that what fan club


eh kau macam eh kau jangan bedek lah I mean sorry this is not, this is this sounds too


ah okay like like the people who go #sungei buloh# cari burung cari burung ah okay okay okay


but they all look the same apa macam mana nak ada divide


they're so cute they really are very cute


the ones that went to Serangoon road, uh ya


they come kat sini to look for the


okay


, sausage sausage


I didn't know about that


so macam do you think they like live there in in the botanic gardens that kind of and and dia orang macam what what I don't understand about okay in this case is the otters


is do they like


ah okay, so in snakes I snakes I understand snakes you slither I've seen the snakes kat sini in the drain


how do they


Serangoon, so this kind of thing when again like when you develop land to build new buildings


and you push out that the native animals, assuming that the otters are one of them, what what what happens to them, like do they get tagged by apanya nama dia ACRES, that is is this something that ACRES


looks after the otters or so because in singapore it's become it's become like a source of pride for singapore the otters ya I never I never realised it you know I was away from sixteen years and before I went away in in


but I don't understand like when I left singapore in two thousand and three did we have otters then or is it macam a new development that they came from somewhere


oh okay


in singapore, like at least five years when you, like heard of them


, so ya that's what I'm saying because dulu I mean growing up here we did not hear about otters


ya lah wildlife ya lah of course aware but takkan lah what I'm saying is takkan lah dulu honestly I mean I grew up in kampung we did not hear about all these otters during kampung dulu kampung banyak benda of course we had the monyet we actually had the monyet uh then


snakes of course, we had our chickens and


I never we never heard about the otters, in the nineteen seventies in singapore, so takkan lah I mean couldn't have been that they, how did they come about to be in the macam the public's consciousness


otters are native to singapore I mean we have otters that are native to singapore,


okay that's new to me, so these otters do they get tagged do they get tagged macam apa tu namanya microchipped


do they no I mean when you say they care for them bukan macam it's it's not like what you guys not like what you guys do at SPCA macam you can't walk the otter


or feed the otters they they take care of themselves [kan], ah


ya but now they don't do that anymore because people have back to work,


ah


but how do you macam if if you say like the last time I walking to westmall then I saw this snake it just goes into the longkang then it just disappears


oh I I remember dulu dekat the the MRT kat mana tu I don't know what lah it was in the news was it a python, I remember this a few months ago was it a cobra or a python or something


!huh!, what


the snake ate the cat


so what happens when ACRES comes when apa the the snake now it has the


but they have to catch it and release it somewhere else [kan] tak [kan] macam redhill kat bawah block tak [kan] you you can't just leave it there


but but, but now we have less and less, so a'ah


(ppc), okay I'm in, next week kau start ni [kan] apa ah volunteer eh


ya, ya ya


how many people, !wow!


(mmhmm)


ya ya


ya, (mmhmm), I think


they are, ya, ya, ya it's not basically is minuscule


I don't know, that's good man


that's good, ya I think so, so what next week starts ah, no,


ya ya ya ya


uh your skills your skill set and your experience [kan], ya, the phase three ya


should be end jan


ah


you mean this this christmas coming now, okay, ya uh


okay, ya


ya, ya ya ya,


would you be able to do that, how the hell would I know abeh macam you have to go on the ground like what if they ask you to like okay you go to the homes and distribute stuff


different things to do ah, ya


too tired


eh, feed her feed her


that's good ya they would have they would have a lot of drives volunteer drives because I'm I'm sure I'm sure some volunteers don't stay here I mean you know


[kan], ya ya ya the SPCA also has lots of volunteer drives because ya one of it is the volunteers they don't stay for too long, so they always of course they always need to have volunteer drives


SPCA ya they volunteer because I'm I'm one of the uh volunteers right so aku my my my volunteering with them is really fostering ah so I'm a rather than you know uh


, I mean anyway they have different volunteers, so you can some of them are dog walkers which is very popular because you get to chill with the dogs, err and then


it's a shelter SPCA the dogs are in SPCA [kan] SPCA [kan] is a shelter it's over at west we're actually quite close to SPCA what tengah ya tengah ya we are very close it's it's just next to #choa chu kang# ya like we're very close to SPCA so they have people they have volunteers at the shelter itself so that means the volunteers must go to the shelter uh that involves dog walking


err cleaning really literally like cleaning the you know the poo poo ya ya and then uh there are volunteers such as ambassadors such as what I mean like macam they have events they have events like okay then there is an event here at this uh uh at this uh CBD area at one raffles place so they have like a booth or two booths you know and then they need somebody to to to to to man the merchandise table and another one is to macam


uh macam orang lalu-lalang [kan] then you macam talk about the awareness gitu lah which I wouldn't mind doing actually uh tapi sekarang uh we don't get enough as a volunteer I don't get the notifications anymore because I think they stopped that lah for being like you said lah because of the COVID ya so they're not so you know they can't go out in the open anymore for now


dog walker boleh lah cuma only you and the dogs tapi macam public all this awareness sort of stuff uh no not so much now I think later they will probably do it I used to get uh emails pasal unit unit ambassadors and all that tapi now no more


so then you can do that uh they can say oh we need we need volunteers for to do the ambassador part and all that ya so of course they have different volunteer ada volunteer macam photography


which I'm fostering for kucing I volunteer to be a foster for critical care, critical care means for newborns newborns newborn kittens newborn kittens so they call me but you can always say okay I I volunteer


fosterer for puppies macam gitu so when they have cases then they contact you say okay Wati we have this then, ya no lah fosterer no, what


ya uh yes, but I can if I volunteer okay for example if I volunteer for the kittens right so I pay for the food and all that medical I can go to their clinic


SPCA has a clinic ya they have a one of the very few I think if I'm not mistaken they might be the only animal shelter with a clinic ah they their clinic is relatively new some more, so I it's should because I'm fostering for them so let's just say oh the kitten is sick so I call the clinic and say eh your kitten I fostering for you you know it has flu then they say okay come by so I make an appointment and I go to the clinic and then they treat and then they I don't pay lor


because it's their fosterer it's their foster kitten I'm just taking care so I don't pay for the uh but I must go to their clinic okay so if I decide to go to my own clinic outside which I have done before then I cannot waive cannot claim or anything like that


SPCA is run by, donations they are run they run on donations, ya yes, exactly kesian [kan]


, you know lah SPCA [kan] international [kan] SPCA [kan] nama international punya brand [kan] so orang pun ada lah you know macam kasih donation gitu ada lah I think I guess they do have you know uh


people who recognise them and and and and donate sizable you know maybe companies or so I guess I don't know how well funded they are but they probably aren't so bad you know


government, ah G O V


but that is the problem


no that's rubbish lah cannot be, oh I think must there has to be some uh apa ni uh macam caretaking of all or all inhabitants but of course we're certainly the portion is not lah macam of course the priority is to be citizens in a way as in proportionate you know but


these dogs are still inhabitants of this country otherwise where are they going to go they have to be taken care of, in a humane way lah you know ah in fact I was just talking about it to uh to my grab driver over here


you know like all these developments that we are doing [kan], development you know all the new new condos new property development sorry the HDB is building up and they are raising and they are just flattening all the lands and the jungles


areas not all these wooded areas you know these these areas #bukit batok# lah banyak banyak macam jungle jungle apa they are clearing all the forests and the stray dogs are coming out you don't know #bukit batok# has a lot of stray dogs ya and they are the stray dogs are coming out from the jungle areas and where are they going to go they are being pushed out right from other developments where are they going to go then they are going into the uh HDB estates like now so then of course who is going to get panicky residents residents are going to complain uh authorities come in take the dogs and cull them which is very inhumane so ideally what you should happen is if you are going to develop the land which I know you probably should have to but then there has to be contingency plan where you going to drive the animals out you know is like I feel it is not thought through out you know okay we're going to develop the land we're going to end up pushing the animals that are in there they are going to end up going to hello resident areas so why don't we do something about that two pronged approach


so SPCA and some other animal welfare groups are the ones having to pick up the pieces of these the dogs getting chased out the dogs have no place to go they cannot go back into the jungles they cannot go into a residence into into HDB you know heartlands and all that so but who is pushing them out we know who is pushing them out who but who is picking up the pieces animal welfare groups who are running on completely on donations which is like come on you know what I mean [kan] it's like ya I feel that it's it's it's it's it's just rubbish lah what is happen there is no collaboration I feel there is no collaboration


first kills the dogs


no they don't both okay, of course they know they know they see it we they see it all the time and dogs are coming out Punggol #pasir ris# #choa chu kang# but there also but also yes the wild boar of course is in the news and everything how can they not know but are they doing anything no they are not the second part is the second part is they are not this is why we are frustrated we go like why don't you do something help we are not telling you to do it one hundred percent because we are completely we understand that they are completely incompetent but takde collaboration kau faham tak takde supportive effort at all macam okay kau okay kita sekarang kita punya AWG and animal welfare groups okay why don't we support you into doing this you know what I mean kita nak buat macam gitu macam okay kita dia orang because dia orang uh AWG yang boleh ambil I mean they are the ones with the expertise the heart the passion all that but they cannot be run they they cannot do all because they have no space and duit takde duit [kan] so siapa yang ada duit ni yang itu [kan] government [kan] so at least macam okay kita tolong collaborate lah you know uh okay uh kita buat ni then you all can uh kita boleh kasih kau orang support sikit-sikit untuk blah blah blah you know this is exactly what should happen but it's not happening so apa yang buat sekarang is bila binatang ni keluar yang Gahmen Gahmen ni semua angkat tangkap bunuh it's like it's an inhumane approach you know what I mean ya itu yang kita boring


I mean this this this look at


ya lah tapi not to this extent not to this extent look at Tengah now Tengah baru Tengah is now being developed which means they are they are accelerating and intensifying the development so now the animals are getting pushed out last time the animals are not getting pushed out so much because Tengah is still around correct #lim chu kang# sekarang semua nak development Punggol mana ada Punggol dulu dulu mana ada waterway Punggol sekarang dah ada Punggol apa all the dogs from Punggol are coming out you can you can literally walk on Punggol street with the traffic light and there's like a pack of stray dogs dulu mana ada because Punggol was not developed that's why the the problem is highlighting is being highlighted now because !wah! dogs are coming out what how come people people are like how come there are so many dogs because they have been around but just that they have been developing they are getting pushed out they have the dogs have been around in there in the jungles people I know people who go around and feed the dogs at the edges of the forest because the dogs are coming out you know you they know why these people go to feed them at the edges is because they are trying to prevent the dogs from coming into HDB estates because it will be that will spell danger for the dogs you know the dogs people are going to complain people are going to complain the the dogs are going to be in danger so but the dogs are hungry so people now the feeders go to the edges to feed them and the dogs are you know they are wild dogs they're feral dogs but they are very smart and they very and they really harmless because all they want is food they're not interested to go down to the to your heartlands and do what whatever you know they just want food so the people the feeders there go to the edges feed them then they go back inside the the jungles they are very sweet you know but


right now there are but the numbers declining is is really this that means eventually the dogs are going to go they're going to be completely out and what we want is you know can you guys collaborate a bit more no not bit more there's no collaboration can you guys collaborate with AWG given if you're going to build and develop these places do something right but they're not


babe wild dogs wild boars and pythons where are they going why why why the pythons are coming out they are all in the drains what why are they coming out you tell me why are they coming out now why are there wild boars coming out now like in #pasir ris# why because #pasir ris# you know all the animal welfare groups the shelters were all there before right they were all there before no #pasir ris# farm way they were all there before the government took the land and they moved them to Tengah now they are all in Tengah now the animal welfare groups so they are developing #pasir ris# that's why the wild boars are there now you see them walking around wild boars why because there is a very clear example of this is what happens when you push them out they are going to end up out being visible uh to all residents who are going to panic


no gatal kau tengok aku punya ni rashes tapi aku memang sensitive skin


ah


pythons also, ACRES, and also and also the wild boars ACRES ACRES why do have why do you have picture of the snails on your


oh !wow!


ah, oh they are all the same


so what happens is what happen is you call ACRES ACRES will take ACRES ACRES A C R E S they are the animal the wildlife the wildlife group in singapore like monkeys ACRES the wildlife they are in charge so they can come up and take the snake I mean as in they trap the snake and what they would do they would microchip and they would release back into the jungle ya so that the snake is is tagged ya they do that they're tagged then they will release back into the jungle so it still goes back into the jungle exactly where are they going to go right so they go back into the jungle then eventually they have to come out of the jungle again uh so so it solves nothing it solves nothing you know


ya they they microchip them they have to tag it so that they know that this is the one we have done before we've helped before something like that cute [kan]


quite a few, I don't like lizard


ya !aww!


is it oh so sweet, ya


!aww! bless her !aww! ya


I don't know about the saman part I know you that you kena saman if you litter, that means you leave the food there and you walk away that one have but feeding I don't think so it's not illegal, right


ya, ya that one we tell people not to do


national environmental agency NEA they are the ones in charge of dengue dengue mosquito breeding all of that and the environment lah


so water ya it's it's very tough water food you are supposed to feed the cat stay there I mean and then clear you're supposed to clear your feeding you have two hours to clear


you can get ya if someone catches you you can get fined, everybody if somebody reports you can end the NEA ya you can you can get, for example if you feed right and then just in case NEA happens to walk past then you Kena fine lah or somebody reports you or what ya you can ya


no littering, you have to clear the food within two hours, you have to you have to okay you can feed


uh okay for example I feed I feed the cat the cat is here I'll feed the cat I put the food down all right I cannot go home, okay I cannot go home [kan]


you don't have to necessarily sit there and watch, but you have to you go you can go and feed more cats then you come back and within two hours you clear this is what we mean by within two hours, so at the end of the day within the two hours you come back and you clear lah some people of course they choose to just sit there okay and then go


you know they because they have they have a certain route right okay block this block I feed three cats eat eat eat feed feed feed feed makan makan makan ah dah habis okay bye bye clear, and then I go to the next block some people do that or some feeders they will just from one block X they walk to they leave the food then they go to block Y Z then they balik then patah balik dia orang patah balik then clear lah


that's what we mean by two hours, must clear the cat food yes, yes, all the cockroaches rats and all that ya so they don't want that so it's not illegal to feed but is you cannot litter


which is to me is fair enough lah you know like we let you feed then you know because then the cats are hungry then they will go to hawker centres and bother people, you know and then of course it's also a nice thing to be humane right the cats are going to be there they are going to be hungry anyways you might as well feed them


at the end it's littering lah I don't know on the spot is a forty fifty I don't know, whatever that is whatever the market rate is


ya but that one is littering lah, ya so feeding is not illegal littering is so what we call it we call it uh we we tell people to be responsible feeders, they they responsible feeding is what they want


and you can see signs posters you know at the lift no lah maybe not here lah but maybe other places you can see signs about responsible feeding, town councils town councils cat welfare society ya ya usually cat welfare society collaborate with town council and they put a sign lah dekat kat lift landing you know uh please keep clear within two hours macam gitu macam posters


which is good lah to remind people you know kind of like that [kan]


block mana this block this block


ah,


oh my goodness, they are copy cats, ya lah that's called district cats lah they're called community cats we call them


a pet cat, a pet cat some pet cats probably don't get, ya


ya it's their it's their joint, it's their joy, I know


, ya, ah, ah ya, eh


, because so much traffic eh


, ya,


, ya


but it's quite safe what this this tree


traffic, uh ya, ah


okay, ya, ah, ya


back to their refuge lah


oh they have a certain route all my colleagues will go off first at ten o'clock they will be here and then after that you can find them dia orang macam ada very designated they like know where to go first first then second twelve o'clock you will see them there is like


people who work there know where these fellas go uh their time table their schedule like ya at ten o'clock they will be here but later they will go that way that way oh then by twelve o'clock they will be at that pond, uh so funny and it's true right they would go almost every uh almost everyday


uh I guess because botanic gardens [kan] ada lakes [kan] ada lakes ada eco lake swan lake and all the macam the stream stream stream and you know botanic gardens


I guess is connected to the I I don't I don't know where I mean I don't botanic gardens then connected to where ah the drains ah does it go to I don't know uh so anyways they were at the botanic gardens almost a lot I see them twice still the same ya but no when I was there there were also people but uh it's just you know the thing about botanic gardens is that although it is busy it's a refuge because


the the the park rangers make sure that the animals don't get disturbed you know so uh when there are otters we tell people me when I was located you know like me when I was located no please please stay aside you know make sure ya we basically monitored people's behaviours so uh the the we were policing the people for the otters the otters I guess felt safe macam ada bodyguard


uh so I guess I guess in the botanic gardens the otters would feel safe despite, the number of people and visitors ya because it's a you know there are very strict laws right in the botanic gardens you cannot pluck the flowers you cannot pluck anything you cannot touch the animals so because of the set of rules uh I guess you know the the otter felt safe lah


ya dah macam they were protected ya which is a nice thing you know and but it's so nice to see them they were so cute huge though oh my god the biggest one I swear I swear it was like that I was like when I saw I was like my god it's huge ya they're very big


oh, you know there are a few families ah apparently, because singapore there are a few a few families of otters they're not no they're few families dia macam different clans


otter, are you cray cray are you kidding me they are different ya there are different families macam different hello macam macam tigers [kan] lions [kan] ada different pride


there is a fan club ah, okay when I say fan club means the people who are watching they love the otters they are the


they they monitor the otter activity, so they have the okay only the otter fan club lah


so and they they are actually very knowledgeable they know oh this is the Kallang clan, so they have identified at least two families, two families which is


uh so the Kallang clan otters are the ones that hang out in the Kallang area dia macam territorial lah, this is their territory oh then there's another clan which is, somewhere else not Kallang so that is the one so they have different families lah all clans


maybe another clan !huh!, maybe they are another clan but then again you know yang dekat yang dekat Kallang tu !wah! I tell you, uh or the ones yang pergi CBD kau tak baca dia masuk kat CBD


ah gitu dengan CBD tu that one is one clan know, ah ah so they are very well fed they are you know they are very clever lots of fish


ya eh dekat Bishan park Bishan park pun ada tau


I don't think they look for other clans, when they I I I don't think I think is like when I say Kallang clan is like is like this is their territory


you know macam they have a certain it's just like cats and dogs and lions and all that this is their roaming this is their range, their roaming range is this is their range you know cats are like that, so for example if your cat is in this block he's he can range from this block to a few blocks ah this is their range so I'm sure they have the same


I guess among themselves lah I guess but they're very they're very they're very family oriented


so they can see the babies and all that and if fact a few died actually because one got caught, the angler hook !aiyo! so sad ah I think that was one was near uh, uh one of the


I think uh tempat fishing punya people who are not allowed to fish but they still fish there, I think Kallang I think one of the anglers one of them the babies got stuck the hook mati tau so sad


so they have a few I'm not kidding about the clan I may have okay I call it clans I don't think it's called clan but you know what I mean, the the family ya, ya they do there there are a few at least two or three what I I remember in the news lah okay so what I remember in the news


they macam they go to their mana aku tahu dia orang pergi mana but they have their own spare trait lah kalau kau macam pergi dekat Kallang river side I'm sure there is you can see them I told you botanic gardens they do botanic gardens


, I don't know if they live there


they don't they don't they roam, they roam they'll rove they rove they


they might not they might not be the same clan because it's a bit far the botanic gardens might be the same one as the maybe ya I don't know you know I don't know they don't just when they when they they don't just live in the botanic gardens it's one of their hangouts lah


one of their hangouts you know ah


ya ya ya


!wah! the otters right, cute right


ya uh, eh cute


to be honest aku tak ingat sejak bila when is the first time they came out but otters ni tapi uh, uh both apa ni uh I don't know I don't know I don't remember when aku nak kencing I don't remember exactly when I don't remember exactly apa apasal aku toilet what do you mean I come back lah


ya cakap [jer] but I don't remember exactly when the otters , uh I don't remember exactly when the otters you know keluar but definitely at least uh you know five years I think


ya but don't forget people are now becoming more aware of wildlife and all that no now


these people these okay these animals are native so when they started ya ya they are native they are you know also they're from we have mangrove apa dekat #sungei buloh# tu [kan] so I guess they decided to jalan keluar jauh sikit lor


you know ya, I think it's so refreshing I don't think so no uh unless they are caught by ACRES but so far no they are not caught by ACRES they don't need to be caught by acres because I told you the fan the fan club they are very active and they know they go like uh in fact when you sometimes the news right they can they can say oh this the the the Kallang clan they have had two new babies they actually can know and recognise like there are seven adults and two new babies the mother is pregnant we go like !wow! bloody hell how do they know I guess they know lah they're like super fans which is really nice


nice to know right that you know there's this group of people who are just so so in tuned and they are like the the they are the they they walk they care for them it's really nice


not care taking not care taking no no ya ya ya ya ya ya they are not it's not care taking but they care for them in the sense that they care for their welfare they will do uh they will do macam awareness macam don't feed the otters do not go near them don't


you know if you see them stay away don't don't provoke don't apa apa you know so they do that sort of message they carry that sort of message but of course depending on the context lah these are otters so you know so when they say we say they care for them means they will like they know oh they come out at this time so they know their habits they know how many of them


you know not the caretaking type lah but ya they they the the otter watch group the otter watch group ya


no no no, I think the Ulars maybe are not as I don't know maybe not as vulnerable and, and well okay lah let's put it this way lah shallow as it as it may sound but not as cutesy you know


as otters otters is becoming like a tourist tourist the attraction tau, you know the otters in the city !wow! can you imagine you are at bloody CBD then otters that's like !wow! what a nice sight of course of course ya ya ya but you know ya because they are like macam unlikely sight


but snakes and you know otters and snakes you know the the the whole perception of snakes being dangerous and all that, so no lah they don't snakes no but snakes if they are caught if you sight a snake at the drain you call ACRES and then ACRES will come and trap and tag them and release them back into the forest


they don't kill or anything like that that's why we call ACRES ACRES is good they are the wildlife, ah then forget it then forget it the cases that ACRES have have caught were the snakes are still there


ya mana ya pythons ya pythons and then they ate the cats and all that ya there's one there's one recently uh couple of two months ago maybe one snake over at entah #bukit merah# or what the snake ate the cat the com cat


so we have had we have had cases where ACRES came in and then the snake and then the bulge it's a com cat it's a community cat, ya all these com cats kat bawah it's the natural predator apa natural hello this is a cats snake hungry ya so they ate been a few cases where the cats ate the snakes is it com cat


nothing just tag and take them nothing just don't kill the snake it's a it's just tag it and then just release lah


go back to the forest I told you they release it back into the forest but this is where we when we back to our initial conversation where, back they go back into the forest but eventually they will come out again


less and less what forest yes yes exactly so we are driving them out so the snakes are eating the com cats already quite a few com cats already <malay>mati</malay> because of these the snake <malay>pernah ada satu ada satu gambar ada satu gambar yang</malay> snake <malay>tu yang</malay> snake <malay>tu tengah</malay> com cat <malay>dekat depan dekat mak</malay> news [ah] snake com cat [ah]


so, mama, so mama you already you know right that kakak [kan] suka makan ayam goreng right and then lately kakak macam makan popeyes sebab I think popeyes punya ayam goreng is way nicer than KFC what do you think


but I think, popeyes punya ayam is more crunchy eh I think it's like it's not


and then compared to KFC KFC punya tak sedap langsung I mean like it's it's it's nice, KFC's one is nice but


err the popeyes' one has a lot more things in it compared to KFC KFC is just like mashed potato and the gravy but popeyes is like gravy mashed potato then got like the vegetables and everything, ya


, oh ya you know err starbucks right now cause err christmas, starbucks right now it's christmas right so, err they got the toffee nut, crunch latte and then they got these new other flavours also like really want to try before because that time so many times I want to try never get to try the starbucks one before but ya


err but they say it's quite sweet because my friend, allowed me to like taste some of hers then it's was like okay lah quite sweet but actually quite nice also, and then they got the one at NTUC they sell the packet one also, feel like buying it because you know like home


like, I be my own barista at home right because of err coronavirus and everything, so ya do you want to try it with me


I want I don't know I want like I want what's that called the turkey with the cranberry sauce, I don't know why but I think because I watch, so many videos of people like preparing christmas, dinners thanksgiving dinners then I'm like I keep on wanting it and also want my


what's that called ah gingerbread cookie because, and then oh christmas cake the log cake everything ya I also want that one


ya that's why, and then, like right now also I think you know I got my performance right then everybody want to celebrate also very hard because, because of the coronavirus the maximum group of five thing and all


which is okay lah but at the same time quite sad especially when it's around this time of the year when it's like christmas and then everyone to, everyone want to throw like chalet or like meet up to gather together


you cannot meet your friend, ya


oh ya they got the hundred dollar fees the hundred dollars, tourism voucher right and then like, that one I searched up they say you can use for dining also in certain places then but the problem right now is that a lot of people macam complain


ya and then you can only redeem it I think kalau tak salah first of december, and then starting to starting on monday also got the mask, can take our masks also I don't know if you know, ya


I don't know eh I think so like I saw at kita punya void deck they put the poster everything then they say start date thirtieth this monday lah thirtieth november until like, two weeks later


ya and it's very dirty and like very uncomfortable already cause the metal keep like the metal thing at the nose is like twisted and bent already


haven't yet haven't yet school holidays still got school, ya, like usual lah, ya, I also don't know we all don't know yet


oh I don't know I see first how cause we also don't know what we want to do with the vouchers cause in case we got any celebration or what, then uh, the mask, ya the mask I never put in the washing machine but it because keep on using and then keep on washing then like when you dump in your bag when you take it off or like when you want to eat all these are very hard


very uncomfortable already and very dirty already like you can see the before and after got ya got before is white clean kemas and then the after is yellow very dirty then macam macam asyik lunyai and everything so ya


the one that I painted all cannot use because the paint smell very strong then if I tried I tried wearing it but then, like he did like that


ya, ya cannot, ya even after washing cannot wear cause it's very err smelly and all


ya the paint is not the paint I think and the material also because the paint is acrylic paint it's not fabric paint then the material like I told you it's very thin also so I think that's like those two are like the contributing factors to why the mask tak boleh dipakai so ya


but fabric painting the problem is that dia punya paint very faint very thin macam acrylic dia it's very thick right so it's very easy to get the colour everything but fabric paint one is that it's very thin so it's very it's basically water but with err like a bit more macam like you add flour to it right then you add a bit of food colouring like that then secondly fabric paint like if I buy like waste of money like that because I only use it for the mask and then like I won't buy small bottles also like we need to get good quality fabric paint to last mah so that's the problem then it's not like I just want to try then I look at the mask also I feel like wearing so like


very rugi because I don't want it to get dirty so ya, so I've been searching up then they all sell like big big bottles one but I don't want big bottle I want like small bottle because like if I buy a big bottle there's no point for me because I won't be using it often


and then it like my room already have so many arts supplies so there's no point for me to buy more arts supplies and then put it there and then when I want to clean it up I have to clean everything up again like you saw last time plastic bag banyak all my stuff so ya I don't know see how lor even if I buy like the big big bottles now I won't buy all colours I just need certain colours but the problem is you know like I love to use a lot of colours for my paintings so ya


ya like that lor don't know how see first, I also don't know we see how we have whole month then we have school we also don't know how then ya


I don't know see how like if I can get into uni then go into uni lah if cannot then see how start working first or what


ya like that lor see how don't know how already


cause it's also quite hard what poly and JC very different you know go into then with the whole coronavirus also very hard already


tomorrow got my err I got school what so then after that I need to rush my assignments, ya


ya if can by monday if not by tuesday because I need to print it out and then submit by thursday morning then on monday also I got another assignment due so that one I need to clean up also


ya, until six seven PM, ya, CCA no more already but the normal class is until six PM seven PM like that


okay


ya, meh, no I don't think I can meet you all because I need to finish all my assignments already then kalau tak habis then I will be rushing then susah if I rush because


I got like my two thousand word assignment essay and then got my uh reflection journal that I have to clean up, finish already the reflection journal finish already but then I have to clean it up and then


for the, essay the two thousand word essay I'm only at like nine hundred words so ya, two thousand, ya


ya, but it's actually very easy just the organisation and the, because we have to cite all our work and everything so that one is a problem but but it's actually quite easy lah because I got all my articles already


the reflection is about just like , the reflection is all about like emotional intelligence cause of my elective and then like the essays about like kids and then their development and everything so ya


no still have, ya I still have my religious school until next year, no it's not finish end of this year semester ends mid year what


ya, I think so ah that one also not so sure you have to check with the ustazah again, no


until june two thousand and twenty is kalau tak salah the expiration date for the hundred dollar voucher


I also don't know see what have lah what you cook or what's in the house, and then just eat whatever there is I think tomorrow will like, I don't think I'll be eating a lot also cause I need to rush my assignment like I maybe just eat lunch then try to finish everything by tomorrow


even tonight later after this I have to, do my assignment I have to find some articles because we have group work and then monday we need to think what to do before class, no school you go to school no but during the break time we meet instead to do the work


ya but like the school website the school library all then we have to find the articles, then after that we have to discuss on what we want to do everything because it's due in two weeks time but my classmate is like the very


chop chop type of person ya you know so kena we all nak buat macam cepat-cepat because he also wants to do it very fast because his idea is that if we do fast then dapat rehat cepat so ya


ya, ya


I think you can ask Adi if he want to go market with you if he not working because I cannot go I got madrasah tomorrow


no eh no preference, I think like a lot I think maybe just like your finger food like nuggets or like hotdog goreng or like fishball like that


the epok-epok also just now err orang sebelah kasih also like very nice also, I never get to try the sardine I wanted to try the sardine but apparently they make sardine and the potato one


but it's also like very oily the moment you eat it you will know they fry instead of what you usually do which is


, bake it


oh


I think like the epok-epok when I eat it kind of remind me a bit of the potato one reminded me of of like old #chang kee# one cause it's like


err taste a bit like it but I feel like this one was more filling and was like more satisfying to eat sebab dia banyak inti and then dia pun macam dia pun macam very crunchy rangup like that, the old #chang kee# one is like you know sometimes like it's not crunchy it's just like dough and then like


very oil but this one was like very nice to eat


the doughnut was very sweet like the doughnut was very nice but very sweet I tried the Ondeh-Ondeh and the red velvet one, ya the Ondeh-Ondeh one, but it's like


the Ondeh-Ondeh one was more of like colour it's just that, you can take the Ondeh-Ondeh because the coconut was roasted, other than that it was nothing it was just like green icing with like whipped cream inside the bombom


the coconut was uh on top of the bombom just for decoration purposes, but it was like very little but got flavour lah and then macam very sedap macam rasa macam those Ondeh-Ondeh cake but the problem was that, altogether it's very sweet and then maybe because I ate the red velvet before that then macam very manis and everything then I cannot tahan also


the apam I ate and, I eat one and I think there's one more right now in the kitchen


oh then I don't know cause the apam was actually supposed to be one for me and one for adik but I think I know I ate it but I don't know if adik ate it cause he was very full very full after eating the Bhatoora


I thought there's like a brown the brown plastic


ya I mean ya I also don't know


ya but then the potato from just now morning still have inside the fridge so like, if you want eat the Briyani with the potato also can, and then the the kuah from the Bhatoora also still have


in the kitchen so ya, ya but the Bhatoora like in the morning eat very nice ah but also like really oily


I think they like I ya they deep fried or something, but then the chickpea also very oily like when you want to tuang it's on the Bhatoora


the oil all come out first then the chickpeas but I don't know but the chickpeas also very nice cause it's like spicy a bit like, ah got sour sour taste a bit


ya that one but I think, and you know when I was eating the chickpeas I thought like oh maybe can make hummus then we eat with we brought hummus then we eat with like the tortilla bread or something also very nice


maybe cause your chickpeas from india or something not the singapore chickpeas or malaysian ones that's why the chickpeas very big, very juicy also got like very nice taste


we can make like hummus we can make like that time we made a lot right but we can make we can separate into three containers we made the normal one then we make a bit more spicy and then another one like a different flavour or something, so like ya then we can buy like those you know those like tortilla chips or something also eat with the hummus instead of pita bread I think very nice also


ya that's why I was saying ah so we divide into three portions then each portion is that each portion is a different flavour


I think I don't know maybe you, wednesday or friday can see first uh, and then I don't know why but like when we were talking just now you talked about, doing hummus right tiba-tiba ingat macam minum teh turki makan hummus


but turkish tea very hard to make cause they have their own set of tea leaves and they have their own ways of doing it, I so shocked cause I really wanted to drink, cause it's like very nice very sweet very floral but apparently it's very hard to make


oh ya Baklava also very nice Baklava with like teh O sedap [seh]


Kunafe is which one


I don't think I tried Kunafe before but I think I've heard about it before


the is something like very pastry and then like it's, they it's just like pastry and then got a bit of nuts on top everything then you got like syrup like that then you pour over, I think


I don't know see first uh I think like, ah cannot commit to anything right now cause don't know the timetable everything then we also one of our modules also we have to meet with the senior and then we we planned on going out but we don't know when cause right now also the senior not feeling that well


I don't know I I actually want to eat like something like fish and co manhattan or like what's that called the shellout like that also very nice, ya


oh ya that, the the charcoal waffle with the earl grey syrup and the dark chocolate ice cream that one was very nice


so ya macam tak tahu ah like, hopefully if we go back which is all the way at #joo chiat# right like err that that place


hopefully like it will taste the same


!huh! #ang mo kio# A&W halal, wait then the jewel one also halal already is it, I thought they say got A&W oh no that one is shake shack


ya the whipped cream it's like macam it's not like serasi in that not not not serasi it's like tak equal like that bila dia spread if you see but the strawberries everything very fresh also


ya the strawberry shortcake was small but the thing is it's small but very filling and then the strawberries also like on top a lot and then like in between the cake the sponge cage there's also a lot of strawberries and then it's all very fresh not the like freeze dried strawberry type


I think the I don't know for me was the nasi was nothing special it was like nasi minyak like that


and then like the I think like overall it was really nice ah but the they have the like the sambal not the sambal but like the chilli


and then macam the minyak right I was thinking if like if kalau kat rumah sendiri right the nasi you put in the minyak then you panaskan you buang you buat macam nasi goreng like that


ya but I think I like it ah cause, I I was like in the mood for like just not


but the sad thing is the vegetables dia orang tak kasih banyak sikit [jer] the lettuce and everything ya


ya, ya, I've been wanting to eat that also like I think maybe buy seaweed and then nasi then we still have a bit of the serunding right, and uh


but chicken on christmas like, japanese cheaper you know japanese people, ya japanese people you know err during christmas they don't eat turkey or what you know they go for KFC you know even their KFC right the KFC each chicken bucket right they have a christmas special you know


no eh I don't think so then we also want to do like me and my friends we also very broke already so nak beli barang tu semua but maybe we all like


uh kita pun terlupa then it's like oh then we just okay lah december we can go out because by then everyone should be free because right now it's exam period for a lot of people


so, ya, ya during december then err I also meeting like some of my err like


to cause like dah lama nak jumpa tapi kita punya timetable semua very busy right so nak jumpa and then macam makan sama-sama or something then that time I told you me and Ayumi we eat this very nice ice cream at paragon right dia belanja because she got the voucher then we thought of like maybe we go eat the ice cream or what ah see how


I want uh we cannot go cause the person not feeling well but ya then see how lah because we waiting for another week to see if she okay or not then if we can go we can go if cannot then we need to find another person to go to then I cannot talk a lot about it also like even with you because it's like


personal private thing, but we all my group all very stressed ah because like we all thought like err we all planned already and then like that night last minute uh that night last minute got that text that cannot go and we already missed out on two sessions then we have to a certain activity with her mah but don't know how lah see how


no we waited for her to see how if you okay or not then if you are okay then we continue if not need find another person cause we skipped two sessions already and then if this week she cannot then three sessions skipped kena find orang baru ah don't know how see first


I think you should order the strawberry shortcake because first is halal secondly the strawberry shortcake there I think it's like


so ya then kalau you beli besar pun like knowing you you know like you makan one slice then you can simpan if not you just buy the five hundred grams keep some for yourself like that


ya but the thing is right that cake everyone was forcing to finish it also cause everybody was like and ya and then cause the cake was whipped cream it's not chocolate or what it's like whipped cream then we also had that apple strudel oh the apple strudel was so nice


strudel strudel shop still have but not at Jurong point anymore I only eat the, chocolate one the chocolate one very nice very like lemak manis everything I never try the mango one but I tried like a bit lah because I also cleaning up right then I tried a bit but not bad also but the chocolate one !wah! very nice I rugi they never buy the apple flavour


she she also a bit hard right now because like she also on like diet and everything then she not eating a lot of things also or she like controlling herself


if not then go eat at hajjah maimunah or something sana [kan] sedap and then like, you guys can eat Bingsu or like eat at the cafe like the ice-cream waffle I can tell you the place that I eat ice-cream waffle with my friend because that one also not bad


ya and then the environment also very cosy for both of you to talk to one another


if she eat the turkish food you can bring her to that restaurant that day if she eat lah but I doubt so she will eat because the, turkish food is either very oily or very sweet then she doesn't like both things what


buy for her exercise pants


buy for her exercise pants and sports bra, if not if not just go out with her go to a cafe and then like belanja her drinks or that one because she usually drink coffee like flat white she doesn't drink like sweet drinks anymore


and she is nowadays more of a coffee person, dessert also that time went out with her she doesn't eat a lot like she only eat one or two bites then she expected me to finish but then both of us cannot finish when we ate the ice cream waffle because it was very it was very nice but we were very full after our lunch


if not then like go to, like maybe if not just go to a cafe and then buy finger food like


fries or something like that we saw and then like, buy like one or two finger food and then dessert and then like a drink and then that's all, if not just go for dessert or like tea break like that something like that


ya, then not worth it [seh], if not, if not go dessert tea break or you can go like those if you really want like macam treat her very nicely then you can go to those restaurants or


got few restaurants offer tea break, but like eat cake and, ya so you boleh makan kat situ macam tea break I don't know if you remember but they got this tea break thing where macam dia orang makan ah you pay for two people and then you can eat all the treats you want and the tea you can choose from TWG


then, that time also


then she say it's actually quite affordable so it's expensive lah but in terms of like the quality and the atmosphere she say was very nice if betul-betul nak lepak-lepak makan-makan catch up with one another


no that one is, another one I don't really remember but I can ask her


cause like the one that I do my painting right the one that I said like buka the community painting that one they also offer, like tea break session but I think kalau tak salah it's, about, either, plus minus ten dollars from hundred dollar so I think like hundred thin or below hundred


but it's also very nice because the, the desserts all like really nicely macam betul-betul sedap-sedap they got assortments macam like small little kids everything then the tea the atmosphere at the place is also very comfortable


but ya like that one also I wanted to tell you certain hotels they will accept the hundred dollar voucher


ya so from what I remember is that you cannot join the voucher you can only use it like one person one person but you can meet in the same place you cannot use it together, or you can like use hundred dollars but you can pay for four people lah but you cannot like err four hundred dollars


I think, err if not you can go Bugis like the Bugis Haji area that one confirm got a lot, very nice one if you the lavender area the lavender to Bugis street there right that one that time I went out with my friends a lot of cafe and it's err like it's like affordable uh not bad quality also really nice atmosphere also really nice if not


like the one that my friends told me at somerset ion there that that area around there got a lot a few cafes also which is below hundred dollars you can go for, and then, err ya and then if not you can go to the that time the #joo chiat#


Changi area, the ya then macam got a few cafes lah if not also the, around her area, #choa chu kang# area like that or like


further about there got a lot of really nice cafes also but you need to know how to walk around there because it's quite Ulu mah so ya


ya, that time I went with her at Jurong east the coffeesmith, we ate also not bad but the price like uh the like I bought a medium she bought for me a medium matcha, in fact


not bad lah but like not worth it also so it's better if you want, like really get quality and atmosphere wise right it's better for you to just go to like Bugis or something to lepak and berbual-berbual kat situ because atmosphere pun Shiok and then makanan pun actually really not bad and then nowadays Bugis area I think got a lot few more cafes and then


that time I makan burger with my friend right then I told you that the atmosphere also not bad, ya that one if you want also can eat burger that cause they have like a meal


I want eat the I don't know I want to eat like, christmas log cake not really log cake but I just want the atmosphere back the christmas atmosphere cause party all cannot happen already


ya so only five people like that but ya and then like we want do house party, I think five like I know in school it's still five people


but, to be honest there's no difference whether five to eight people it's still like you still cannot find a seat where you can sit together


because usually almost all the seats are like five five people


oh ya cannot refund right


ya the stay home notice right so macam susah like waste of time, but I don't know then the fact that they don't refund the airplane tickets but will only bring to next year but sekarang pun macam end of year pun belum lagi okay everything macam we are still kalau tak salah in phase two


is it the ticket we can go anywhere or certain locations


!huh! if can why not we go europe with their plane ticket, we go Bali, indonesia


oh ya this whole year takde pasar malam [seh], I don't think will have


and then the susu honeydew tu semua macam dengan minum macam air-air dia orang air sugar cane dia orang suka [seh] tu rindu [seh]


oh I want to go the I want the indian sweet again the pink colour one you know the pink and white one I always eat then I want to buy one of the skirts again


ya but, ah ya that time yang Deepavali that one that Adit left halfway


ya that one that one the mango Lassi very nice


oh ya, why suddenly got a lot of face wash ah, oh, I suddenly like I go back home right I like shower and then I was like okay and then shower shower I looked at the face wash area I saw like eh a lot of face wash then all the face wash was like the brand that


like you see like I never used before right then I was oh okay then didn't think about it then I was like eh rezeki sebab my face wash also nak dekat habis then I actually wanted to buy my new face wash then I saw got new face wash already I was like okay lah can


two face wash and then one pimple cream and then her perfume and her makeup stuff, but I don't think adik will use because adik very particular about his face


ya, oh ya then the perfume nenek give right the bau right stay for very long eh, ya like I spray like my class nine eight AM right I spray right until like I spray like on my like on my because I was wearing like inner clothing then I was wearing outer clothing so I spray on the inner clothing on my body also until like


the lipstick and bedak muka right I pakai right !wah! it's like eh very nice because the thing is like bedak muka I wanted to I was like I I I


like


and then the lipstick colour also because like very, no no no the lipstick colour you know dulu dulu nenek has like old photos of her when she go out right then you know that that signature like, like smokey maroon red


it's that type of colour, ya, so, like, then I looked at it right I was like !wah! actually my lipstick colour and my nenek punya lipstick colour about the same ah because like, I mean like I, I usually the one wearing red lipstick what you always like go for purple or like glosses more then


then it's like okay lah comfortable lah can can, but then I didn't dare to share with my friend because like my friend was like asking can I use then I was like no cannot this one my mum punya


popeyes okay lah for popeyes, not that not that crunchy right compared to KFC but still very nice especially the kentang the whipped potato


popeyes with potato whereas KFC whipped potato was not that, okay lah tak tak sedap sangat ah to my taste


okay lah both I think preference wise I tak choosy ah both


you want something spicy I, think, popeyes is good KFC is very crunchy but both is again suit to different people's taste ah


ah


ah okay lah christmas eve lah christmas christmas dah nak dekat [seh] nak boleh order dia punya christmas bundle I'm looking for turkey ataupun lamb shank, the halal lamb shank sedap [seh] but then now I don't see ah lamb shank


I only see the meat loaf and lamb rack I want the shank macam , err we marinate then you just cut the juice come out shank is nicer cut


ah dia punya cake not bad I'm looking forward for the christmas for the thanksgiving, the food the game but this year


party can be held ah, so a lot of parties, thanksgiving nampaknya kena postpone ah


then you have to do five people in a group, then lot of things that


then I think ah can use the voucher, for at least if you don't do gatherings staycation or what do ah go and discover singapore too, voucher


mask I don't know but first first december is your aunty's birthday, ah first december, mask we can collected tak tahu eh kat vending machine nearest vending machine nearer to our home


then tu lah dah teruk dia punya mask okay lah if it's we got a new one then not that bad ya by the way ah [dah] school holiday [kan]


oh you still go for school, like late normal time, oh then when is your school too


reserve the vouchers for next year for her birthday on ninth january so he wants pakai tu voucher


even though kau dah wash, sayang [seh] very nice after you after your art your draw kat mask tu tak boleh pakai I think maybe the


fabric paint I don't know like


oh


then your school holiday what's your plan


oh kau punya sekolah but don't know when is your school poly tutup bila [seh]


so from there after next year what's your dream sia what do you want you have plan already tak apa kau nak buat nanti after this year


(hmm) don't don't think about it I guess you have to start slowly lah see how it is your results end of this year then followed by next year dah kena start planning,


oh banyak kena buat kau nak kena plan out


ah, tomorrow what's your plan, oh besok kau kirakan kau kat rumah ah kau nak kena buat kau punya school project ah


so oh monday monday kau sekolah lah as usual what time


eh lama [seh], so morning class


okay lor tomorrow I've then I'm going after zoo whole tengah hari ah I'll be going to mummy's place


okay reflection kau kena tulis dah banyak berapa banyak page reflect


two thousand and you are only with nine hundred words


then I was thinking, actually tak tahu so monday kau takde monday kau takde adik pun takde mama will be at home ah, then ya then next week starting from december also I'm going to work already every sunday morning


eh ya by the way your religious class dah habis ah, ah, coming to december already still have, uh I thought finish end of this year


oh kau punya semester ends mid year, so sampai bulan enam ah


I thought by end of this year dah habis [seh]


or, !wah!, a lot ah I think should be but guarantee end of the next year like


oh okay lah then we can uh I think by january should be no problem ah since school school opened can still utilise the voucher


oh, then what you think ah tomorrow want to go to market or not, what's for lunch for tomorrow


eh monday so you have to go to school earlier ah, oh then kau orang kena cari articles so what the article [seh] in newspaper by google


oh he just want to finish up then go off ah, then guys ah, ya guys like that mah they just want to chop chop finish get it done and over easy


take to go, tomorrow, so monday I'm not sure whether adik kat rumah or not have to ask him, wanted to go market tomorrow see how lah if I can wake up earlier go to the market then buy things or cook or if not


you know , !hais! what to do so many things, oh uh I don't know if he wants then I can ask him to accompany me


go market buy, any preference what to eat or not


ah not bad , finger food eh I don't know finger food sounds like how ah


oh ya uh, ya the potato eh the sardine very nice very filling very spicy


and the potato, nak kena tanya where they order the food very nice, haven't tried the what, the cake also the bomboloni is it bomboloni, it's not the doughnut it's the bomboloni very okay lah


the one that I tried not so sweet I think green chocolate eh, chocolate feeling then it's very nice oh that time when they give us the the the cookies I think hazelnut cookies sedap [seh], the cookies


, one tak I mean as their apa door gift eh, very very buttery very crunchy


hazelnut cookies very nice the boys spent okay today adrian's birthday, ya that's why the parents


instead of potatoes sweet potatoes ya very nice the sardine is very spicy very I think they ordered


very, not bad I like it, they have a they have Ondeh-Ondeh


oh is it so the coconut is what inside the


ya I don't I only tried I don't know I tried I think chocolate but inside there's no filling, it's just like a plain chocolate, nothing inside so not bad actually


!wow! very nice, the #nasi briyani# also but no gravy eh just now just now morning the gravy


no more already, oh ya I think he ate the morning breakfast the apam because


into the kitchen to look for it but I didn't see any dia punya leftover, ya


ya when I came back from work I saw it but then after my nap I wanted to eat, ate it up with, nugget ah he fried uh nugget mah just now


the Bhatoora ya you eat up right the Bhatoora the morning breakfast


very filling no lah I think oily not really but very filling, because Bhatoora I not sure I don't think so they fried the Bhatoora is it they did


!wah! the chickpeas ya but today I think the chickpeas, uh quite spicy compared to as usual order, yesterday's chickpeas is different from last week we ordered is it last week or last two weeks we ordered


oh Deepavali the last time we ordered Bhatoora was Deepavali remember when ayah ordered twice


ya with the hummus hummus is nice but need need to buy the chickpeas I wonder why how come their, chickpeas is so big eh the one that I bought is very small kind of chickpeas


eh ya ya nice you go do hummus I think I should uh you do hummus ah then we buy pita, pita bread eat with hummus this is nice we can


ya we can, but then, [orh] but hummus we have to divide into three portions if not basi [kan]


bila nak then we just take one of the tupperware then we can use it reheat and then, but very nice can lah but then when's your free day if I buy


chickpeas ya I think you should do I my my hummus is not as nice as yours


!wah! talking about the cage I wanted to eat the #baba ghanoush# and then the, Kunafe then dia ada taste, what else ah the one that I buy the oh Baklava


we went for turkish restaurant, we eat the there we buy their ice cream, the ice cream lah more on uh gelato kind of turkish


ice cream wildlife !wow! nice but Kunafe ah have you tried Kunafe, Kunafe is like pie like that then they pour milk I think on top of it, Kunafe the one that we always try is Baklava and the one that with the special is what's that called uh I can't remember tapi sedap [seh]


I think macam Baklava, but Baklava tapi kalau let's say very nice I I think Kunafe is very buttery not sweet okay lah can still I mean I don't have any sweet tooth but yet


festive tickets Kunafe oh sedap [seh] I wanted to go oh turkish food makan dia punya Baklava, , wanted to go I wanted to go


to try these apa ada buffet baru [seh] at raffles eh I don't know I can't remember this one they called it the seafood buffet just halal one at raffles so go people say, there to try the buffet seafood, then I was like maybe free eh


they got buffet seafood, ya you cannot eat, because of his gout


I wanted to eat the, that one the ice cream waffle A&W ice cream waffle the one that we had the ice cream waffle also not bad [seh]


the charcoal, waffle, that one very buttery worth the worth the price


but I have to travel very far [seh] to #ang mo kio# all the way but !aiya! because since apa dah halal A&W, can eat the coney dogs, now A&W already halal mah, then can eat


eh jewel got A&W ah, I don't know shake shack, shake shack burger that one I'm not sure, but ya want to eat the coney dogs very nice


wanted to order I want to order the shortcake ah shortcake strawberry shortcake


the whipped cream, , ya ya then after that not too sweet


I wanted to order I haven't ask eh but that one must because homemade strawberry strawberry shortcake, !wah! that one the one that mummy ordered was five hundred grams but if we want to order we have to order one kilo


ya, ya ya ya then I like the whipped cream it's not that sweet still can taste then the sponge cake very fluffy you see


very nice I like I like the strawberry and the Satay also


ah that's why then nasi yang tu adik cakap adik say the food the rice is nice but disappointed the kambing if it's only been dripped or it's been marinated


like the syrup kind, it would be like more intense lah when you bite,


actually cooked together with the rice the yellow rice


ah actually I think we can I want to do lah I'm looking for a lamb shank, that to do !wow! very nice ya strawberry shortcake wanted to order but I haven't ask


ah but then the daging was a little bit


ah, oh like what you always do ah


like lettuce dengan nasi put seaweed then raw onion and garlic


ah and then you wrap and then you eat that sounds so nice, very good I was thinking, asking ucu or Fir lah I wanted to do christmas ni si bundle but I googled but I don't see any halal lamb shank


there's no now okay lah if you don't want turkey too big we can order chicken, chicken stuffed potatoes


ah they go for KFC, ah ya, japan itu ah since I tak dapat travel celebration


ah you don't you don't do any exchange gift christmas exchange gift


oh then you can you know people so you planning going out with Afifah lah


, so basically to do the house visiting anymore


cannot look for this person ah


no wonder, okay lah I was thinking say !wah! now I was thinking of food I feel like eating turkish food I feel like eating the the strawberry shortcake should I get should I order or should I just buy from cake shop


, oh


cannot lah five hundred grams that day we three four ah almost four of us makan [seh]


!hais!, there was an apple strudel dulu kat Jurong point right but no more is it the apple strudel shop I was looking the shops


but usually apple with !wah! that's why I say eh no more already I was looking for the shop, apple strudel shop sedap [seh] then the err the durian puff pun ya I was looking for durian nice durian puff, thought about that food right should ask


since #yeo choo# birthday I thought of asking her out for lunch then don't know what to treat her, where to bring her out


ah that's why so I don't know I wanted to treat her on her birthday this tuesday, her birthday mah so I thought of I bring her out for lunch but I don't know where to bring her she went to eat nasi ambeng also can but nasi ambeng two of us eat sure cannot finish leh


oh, ya I can check with you for sometimes [seh] wanted to sit here on your birthday maybe, thursday lah since monday have client, then thursday very free and I don't know whether she eat turkish food or not


turkish not ah then she go for


the sayur ah like those salad Falafel, turkish food, that too I don't know what she wants and I don't know then if I buy her gift also, ah I know that something something she doesn't wear but I just don't know what


no lah hers is quite branded [seh]


(mmhmm), ya


ah that's why then if I go out with her also cannot eat a lot [seh]


I asked her want to go buffet dekat dekat raffles the one that currently just got halal cert, seafood buffet you know I love buffet I love I love seafood mah, ya


then she and buffet two of us we cannot finish lah for sure okay one one round only if we eat then enough already


oh is it, then I should I should google up that one I think I should bring her there


like to chill lah like lepak and chill but why is it TWG, oh okay lah then after like maybe then upon the budget can, can take her out uh then after that boleh beli apa boleh itu lah


eh can use this voucher to dine in also right


uh, but if like we have four households cannot use the four voucher to do staycation only, one voucher right so the price like example four hundred


offset only one hundred right, ah


four hundred dollars combined oh that's why I thought the, like that I should I should but no ah I mean if voucher maybe reserve for next year then for ucu I think there's, nice nice place for me to lepak with her to chit chat


then ya some more it's her birthday I asked her do you remember your birthday she say no dia tak ingat [seh] dia punya birthday


ah, oh that one don't want lah that one too far [seh] jauh [seh] then lepas tu kawasan


oh that's why long time never go out #bukit timah# kat #bukit timah# belakang ingat tak yang ucu go eat ice cream behind the #bukit timah#, you went there before right #bukit timah# area, you can still remember ah the ice cream there


ya lah I don't know


ah christmas promotion


ya only five


five people gathering right still right we are in the still phase two [kan], it's still five or eight


okay I quite confused it's either five ataupun eight people still


five people in the group I think still had to be five like this right, ah another COVID singapore !hais! just can't wait to end then next year can go travel [seh] our flight ticket due march twenty twenty one


last year twenty twenty they said to utilize by march twenty twenty one but now coming to december, don't know see how the previous flight ticket


no they don't want to refund you they just bring forward but the flight tickets that we have booked for march twenty twenty they only say can utilize until twenty twenty one


ya that's why it's sad, you have to do at your country then I think upon landing you have to do swab seventy two hours, with


uh result then if not you have to two or three days, S A S A H, SHN


you know hopefully ah hopefully by, don't know january twenty twenty one we can travel because the flight ticket that we have to utilize we have we have what, four people four pax we have three destination


ya Bali singapore then to another destination !aiyo!, oh not they open up they say open up uh any other locations kita nak pergi ah but now the problem is that


uh how to go also, !wah! europe still not opened its borders


if only indonesia Batam open up the borders that we can uh one big happy news


, I know I want the Satay I want go Jakarta Satay Madura with the kicap tomato Satay Madura very nice


ya then christmas also we also don't have this christmas bazaar at marina usually we have mah


marina there's always bazaar then after that chinese new year bazaar also, don't have right, ya missed it I miss the pasar malam food


tell me about it, oh


oh we put back, Tekka to celebrate Deepavali cause every year mah we always go there


oh that one you have to go Tekka that one is nice the indian


oh that was on my birthday, ya that one uh mango Lassi tu actually, so ya I miss pasar malam food lah just ah hopefully it will be a normal life lah but we have to you know just adapt and go on with life


oh that one nenek give to you


!aiya! nenek asked me to pass you that I forgot I just put there, there's two right two or three face wash I think so, !aiya! she asked me to pass to you she said it was like you can use lor then okay lah just put it there lah whoever want to use adik can use you can use


oh is it


what colour ah pink ah, ah


ah, !huh!,


err hi everyone so we're here for the second recording now uh so before we go I have a very interesting topic here lah Kislan so I'll ask you to share start already lah okay so good looks or a fit body what do you prefer I think it's a fantastic question so you can answer that


okay nice question for me okay it's my turn to answer ah okay so the question is good looks or fit body okay, I think it's you need to look fit to look good as well because, as in like again no you don't have be a model but if you're exercising and you're doing regular stuff like you will actually look good lah you can be you can take anybody and they will look good


so that's part of looking good also but and another thing is


uh looking good right is by genetics you can't choose that if you are talking about the features and stuff that's what you mean by looking good it's by genetics you can't choose that but being fit is something that you can do something about it so I think why worry about something you can't fix just put in your full attention on looking fit in other words ah I think now more than having features I think having a nice body and looking fit and being strong is something more attractive so it's always being fitter lah so that's about it lah so I mean even if you look good but you don't look fit right then you look like a loser so that defeats the purpose


so that's the answer for the first question, so that's the first recording now let's go on to the second, okay can sure


if you were to eat one dish for the rest of your life what would it be, so ah Lamin since you're going to talk tamil with me ask me in tamil


I mean we are bad boys


so I've come to realise that foods that we can eat daily are foods that your body can find it easy to digest rather than foods that it would be


so okay nice point by Raj okay, so my answer to it right <tamil>மொதல்லபாத்தா:mothalla partha</tamil> eating food the entire life not practical okay


so <tamil>அது:adhu</tamil> so <tamil>அது:adhu</tamil> I don't think it's practical for someone to eat the same food everyday so with that I'll end this question so let's go on to the next question ah


what question is there okay tell a story that is funny in retrospect but may not have been funny at that time


Sateer


okay <tamil>என்னோட:ennoda</tamil> experience <tamil>நான்சொல்லஇருக்கேன்மொதல்லசார்லிசாப்ளின்ஒரு:nan solla iruken mothalla charlie chaplin oru</tamil> quote <tamil>சொல்லிருக்காருஅதுஎன்னன்னா:solllirukaru adhu ennanaa</tamil> if you look at life from close up right it's a tragedy but if you just go back and see that life is actually a comedy


okay


but it's funny lah like can you see I'm laughing as I'm saying it so so those were the certain experiences, I had so that's a funny moments lah that we did in the past like so that's what I feel so like I feel that through this let's go back into to the community something we are very much jaded this let's go back I feel like everyone in this community today right


are walking around with long faces zombie like and dead serious and they've forgotten the child inside them cause you see the child inside us can create a lot of memories and we can laugh about it and I think in today's world people are forgetting to do that people are walking like zombies and like what we said in the first recording they name a purpose for themself


which is not really them it's just a purpose found for themselves, I feel that today's let's go back to the community and something we are very much into his Balan term stuff like let's go back, h, we can laugh about it later on and I think in today's world people are forgetting do that people are walking around and zombies there, walking on seriously and like it like what we said the first recording the name on purpose for themselves which is not really there is just a purposive found for them so that they can do something uh work walk towards something like, for example if a person's that need to be a doctor and look after people and fried people's illness that's the purpose he created he can just sit at home and do nothing


nothing wrong is gonna happen not the universe not would collapsed on him or nothing, right you can just sit at home, okay for survivors said you can go work at mcdonald's or anything yet not much of purpose but he still can eat and sit at home and do nothing but why marcie


have the purpose so that he feels something more special and something a move forward to life is going to everyday and Gustav he's going to feel dead so that is the purpose but in today's world people are naming herself purpose for themselves they're just like choosing a purpose you get I should do this


and I should do there and I should want to do this and soft and because of that purpose they're running and running and running and running and you forgetting you just stand in stand where they they are and like just take ah


fresh breath of air and just enjoy the moment and create memories like okay it is important to run after purpose or else we won't develop as a human race and not not many good things will happen lah like putting an end to world hunger won't happen


world hunger will happen lah so so just things won't happen unless someone is gonna take in the effort and taking the time to make projects and that stuff happen lah like


at least it's a purpose and stuff but at the mean time, as a humanity I think we always need to check back inside ourselves lah like what's happening what's happening, and learn how to laugh about ourselves and be free about it and create memories as well along the way instead of just running running I mean like you can run but run joyfully run while making memories be conscious of what you are doing instead of like pulling a high face and


being so miserable within yourself and telling and telling yourself alive I'm going through his suffering so that people will happily, that is not the purpose at all like why if you're feeling so miserable feeding people or treating people like I've seen many doctors that studied nursing prior


I was a nursing student I've seen many doctors, but so miserable with their life because there are doctors who took the oath to cure people and those people are really happy people I've seen them but many doctors, became doctors for the status for the purpose of being status being big there was the purpose and I've seen many of them being so miserable


for them you would rather have just been a businessman why do you have to become a doctor with status, so that's where we are leading towards to instead of making memories do you think the doctors after retiring will have beautiful memories they'll be like the past forty years was a bag full of shit that's gonna be the only memory they gonna bring to the grave so I think that's gonna be a wasted life


make it a journey a beautiful journey with ups and downs even the downs it has to be something so meaningful that it doesn't really feel like it was shit that down you each down should be so much right of a lesson that you are grateful for the down so that's how I think a useful life would be made


okay I give my point of view, on what I feel and what I've watched and read about it okay so it's not purely what I think but it's more of an influence source I have lah so I don't know how true I am uh how true it is so I just tell as much as I know


uh it's having sex before you are getting married and legally telling people that, I this is my husband this my wife and I'm gonna be with that person forever okay then that that's what the entire idea of pre marital sex is and why has it been demonized I think it's immoral


morality is something we have just brought in to this world maybe a few thousand years we've been living in civilization but if you really see how maybe our ancestor ancestors the time when talking about when we staying in a cave on the forest


we were pretty much almost like animals I don't think such thing existed lah such more relatives of, err I will only have sex after getting married because I mean for many years we have been believing the young age of you ask my mother why am I born and the mother will say I married to your father and we all thought that getting married was for the reason for getting baby


and all those sorts of stuff lah so that's about premarital sex but I am not someone who support like hopping around and playboy and stuff lah okay that's not what I'm trying to say but, if in the context of premarital sex as in like you want to have sex before marriage and continue staying with the person I don't think it's anything wrong with that idea of premarital sex that's my point of view


but if you but your version of pre marital sex is I want have as many sex as possible before getting married then I don't think that's, physically good for you lah it's not even moral thing I don't think it's like physically good for you as well lah like you might contact something like get HIV or something lah I mean like health wise's not even good don't talk about morality here but I think that's the issue I see and


you will lose touch with what it really is about sex and stuff lah for the purpose of sex is to create new beings, okay maybe to show love and stuff and if you're gonna have with anyone and everyone who you are attracted to you just I think kind of become mentally sick


in that sense that all you're seeking for is the pleasure instead of what it really is so I think above morality I think that those are the connotations I think which are the problem here lah like maybe you mentally sick lah like maybe you're perverted lah everything you see also horny ah


I think mentally you get perverted that's one thing I think physically I don't think that's not good as well ya you're wasting a lot of, okay vital energy right on something for pleasure I think that's not very right maybe limit it to a certain person lah like if you have a girlfriend and


ya that's what that's what I'm trying to say like if you have a girlfriend you gonna have sex and the girlfriend's gonna become a wife I think it's alright you're not really hurting yourself in anyway so that's the pre marital sex part and then about spirituality, okay uh <tamil>அதுபத்திசொல்றதுக்கு:adha paththi solrathuku</tamil> I have not much of an experience to comment about that but you know you see in the east or in india all those stuff and


there's a lot of idea about, sex is just physicality and physicality and spirituality are different totally different thing and the west I don't know maybe just because they like to mate a lot and have sex a lot maybe that's the reason or they're just promoting a lot more on sex lah


instead of seeing the real context they just mix spiritually with sex lah they just mix like milo so I don't know how to comment because I have never experienced either of it so there's no comment <tamil>கேள்விகேட்டஅப்புறமா:kelvi keta apurama</tamil> you must answer it


it's not gonna be it's going to work or like I can see even before the regency start it's gonna end because a lot of people even get


but I'm stating the fact that all those people who say everything is science correct that's just a ten percent claim lah I think it is time that people who say everything is science has to come into term


with that they don't know shit


and continuing about the future girl story right coming back to the spirituality


I'm kind of depression and other mental health issues that that just seems to me


okay uh wrapping up with in thanks for the opportunity today so I think you have, have a very good spiritual sermon today


might be something refreshing lah again I know you're using this for purpose for studying in making smart devices even smarter that's a nice word smoking's one sciences even spotted bird, while you're doing that I think if are listening I mean I I hope that to human listening on the robot listening to it but if it's a human adding maybe some something which we shared might have triggered a thought


it doesn't necessarily be positive maybe something he said might have triggered your emotion nigel


I bring down the moon to you try lah if you can it's dry lah but I don't think you one can lah I mean like it's the romantic and nine shape you say and say maybe I don't think that my cousin's bridegroom meant that he should die after she dialogue but it sounds so cool and nice when


I think it's a fantastic question so you can answer this, so good looks and fit body first for me the answer is straightforward lah I would choose a fit body because I believe that <tamil>உடம்புவந்துநல்லாஆரோக்கியமா:udambu vandhu nalla arogyama</tamil> and fitness doesn't just mean looking like you cannot say


it will fade after a while if it's only the good looks that I'm gonna rely on so I would say I prefer to rely on being fit because being fit it's really a life changer but of course there's a lot of unhealthy ways to get fit but talking about the healthy way


you know it really teaches us about you know the body mind soul connection and, so ya I would definitely choose getting fit over looking good because you know if you're fit you


question, eh from here onwards we speak straight in tamil for ten minutes ah


BGS, actually I will choose


so <tamil>நம்மலாம்வந்து:nammalam vandhu</tamil> cannot at least okay lah one dish I would say two dishes so one meal not just one dish for my whole life so one would be #tauhu sambal# <tamil>ரெண்டாவதுவந்து:rendavathu vandhu</tamil> okay salmon fish and


I mean it ya if it's salmon fish then it's the best because ah


we, in the we are chasing for the you know the fancy fancy stuff <tamil>சாப்பாடு:sapadu</tamil> restaurant michelin restaurant <tamil>யாருக்குதெரியும்யாருக்குதெரியும்:yarukku therium yaruku therium</tamil> when you put it in this context it changes everything sure I'm not talking bad about a michelin restaurant let's say you have a meal in a michelin retaurant <tamil>சாப்பிடறோம்னா:sapdromna</tamil> of course you know it will be


it would be life <tamil>வந்துஇன்னும்சுவாரசியமாஇருக்கும்:vandhu innum suvarasiyama irukkum</tamil> you won't need to feel bad and after all


realise that <tamil>எங்கதான்சாப்பிட்டாலும்கடைசில:engathan sapdalum kadaisila</tamil> diet lah <tamil>தான்வரபோகுது:than vara poguthu</tamil> so there's no need to for the big build up you know for the food food is actually what we need to survive but now we're eating to


and also said to say number number you know


uh fast food is a big thing in modern countries <tamil>எங்கபார்த்தாலும்அங்கவந்துஒரு:enga parthalum anga vandhu oru</tamil> mcdonald <tamil>அங்கவந்துஒரு:anga vandhu oru</tamil> KFC <tamil>அந்தமாதிரிபோற:andha madhiri pora</tamil> society lah <tamil>வந்து:vandhu</tamil> food is quite a big thing


you know and just remember food is going to come out as shit so no need to eat too much eat what is healthy okay


okay but that one is err


spray him wet


ya world hunger


society is a portraying it and


there's a mask you know the the cultured decent , human being but deep within there's a very primal, very uh powerful very strong and even very wild human being inside all of us and I feel it's it's


when you're trying to judge that from the wrong lens it comes off as you know, you know, uh immoral or what, vile or you know and all that but, you you know forget that I mean humans who


but even to a large extent humans are unfair animals very different from other animals, but still you know animals nonetheless, and so you know, still within us I mean we still have the reptilian like brain parts you know, so a lot of things just very interesting and so it's like ya and two forces you know within every human being one is just full primal and one is very subdued amid to put in uh the big grumpy is like


to put it to put it bluntly it's like it's like, it's like you know it's like a wild bull and a bull that, someone keeps at her farm you find the farm bull they're a lot tamer and calmer and sterilised


tamer you know they just very quiet they just do their own thing but if you go and see a wild boar its a lot more aggressive a lot more fierce and, I won't say fierce just more more passionate a lot of strong emotions strong like because it's life or death and it's that kind of living it's different from the farm bull and a lot of us are like the farm bull we have lost touch


we have be be become like the farm bull you know we have lost touch with that part of ourselves we live in a society where everything is provided food security everything is just very, easily given in most countries and, (mmhmm) it's just makes us has made us very very soft you know a lot of men lost touch with what it takes to be a man I mean look at ancient times almost all cultures you know men are warriors they're protectors of their tribe


they are people who go out there and hunt people who, people who basically put themselves in the line of danger, and they I mean they are warriors lah essentially and warriors doesn't mean you have to go and fight a war lah but I mean it's not about fighting a war or what it's more about your role you know as as who you are you know and so like


I mean of course there's also benefits in modern society we don't die from illnesses at like twenty one twenty two last time was very common you get a common cold you can die just from that now it's, now its, we have become quite resistant to a lot of stuff and so you know our lifespan has become longer but at what cost also like you know


you know, it comes out in a I know it's off track but, it comes out in a question of, want to live, modern society we don't die from illnesses at like twenty one twenty two like last time was very common you don't just die from the common cold we have become quite resistant to a lot of stuff and so you know our lifespan has become longer and at what cost also lah


and it comes out of the I know it's off track but it comes out of the question of, you want to live thirty years but everyday you live life to the fullest that you know whatever the fullest is for you or you live a hundred and ten years but


it's as good as you're living a zombie life and also it's, it really comes down to that and also like , ya I feel a lot of it is like you know societal ethics I mean cause you look, at some of the laws around the world itself you know uh example some of the laws ah let's say


drug laws in singapore it's it I mean it's not exactly based on science all the time you know and again I'm not saying oh err don't have any laws against drugs don't have any laws against this was not about that it's just, our culture and our beliefs definitely play a part in you know in setting these laws for example such as in singapore it's in a lot of other countries


it's a human tendency but again it's, it's just, there's just no point you know in trying to blame society


you you go and do it lah you know you focus on making that happen


rather than just talking <tamil>மொத்தகத:motha katha</tamil> all the time and just not achieving anything just not productive to anyone and so coming back to the question I feel, spiritual wise like you know whether the gods really care and all that its quite debatable its a lot of


it just seems that you know the the deities don't really give a F I mean god himself he doesn't seem to care for all this kind of stuff you know like oh we have sex before marriage oh I mean some don't even say someone lah, some being who created or just earth you know who created the universe is something that we cannot comprehend we can just say I mean we always say oh god created everything but it's just a very mental statement like most of us cannot fully


appreciate what the statement even means because I mean if we really appreciate the mental level your mind just cannot accept it you're just like what what is the universe you know like it's just too vast to comprehend but a being that created you know a universe and like, and like


putting our own personal petty shit on a being of that magnitude in a way it's kind of it's kind of dumb but at the same time ya it reflects human beings need for validation you know because if


if people just believe that this force called god he didn't care about humans he didn't care about anything a lot of people would get frightened you know, and fear is very powerful


okay out of all the qualities that I feel, I think I feel that someone who is more into spirituality and who he seeks who's a seeker as well


ah again I'm saying spirituality not religion wise cause religion and spirituality is two different things, why I say that so it's because someone who's in the journey spirituality, because I'm someone who is who is seeking something lah who is a seeker who is seeking the truth in my own way lah okay I'm not a monk or anything but I'm seeking the truth in my own way coming to terms with what I am coming to terms with my urges coming to terms with my compulsions


and in the journey to transit that lah so if my partner who's not a seeker who's not, in terms of what they are in terms with their ego in terms with their urges and compulsion and doesn't even give a damn about transiting them


I don't think it will work out I can see the end of the relationship before even if it starts, but the random good looking girl who's not even interested in anything about spirituality, it's not it's not even god it's not even about who you worship and stuff it's about transiting this compulsion itself


you know it too so if my partner is not interested okay she doesn't have to walk with me she can have her own way of spirituality her own way of connecting to divinity but if she's not even walking and if every single move and every single step is about ego fight I think


it's not going to be good it's not gonna work out like even before the relationship starts it's gonna end because a lot of people even get even more it's a claim I'm making because I have seen it it's uh something I'm coming to terms with and I realised this, many of people who are in our age group about twenty three to about thirty mostly twenties and younger even in my camp they


don't even have any sense of religion again you know leave the muslims out okay malay guys they are muslims and they are the most religious and christians are there but let's say for other people like hindus, or mostly taoist and buddhist mostly buddhist and taoist


they don't even know why they lighting up the joss stick they're just like my mother ask me to do so I do lor, so that's that's the main idea so I believe spirituality let's let's you even indian wise, whereas a lot of I mean there are a lot unique markers <tamil>காவடி:kavadi</tamil> I mean those people are there lah but if you really go and see


in traditional in families where they're traditionally educated and, well educated families those numbers are actually going down in than they just study take a degree they know a bit about the world and


ya and also you know I I really love when people who say this oh cannot be proven by science cannot be proven by science <tamil>அறிவியல்வந்துகண்டுபிடிக்கல:ariviyal vandhu kandupidikala</tamil> my real question is by whose science ya of course if your version of laboratory coats and laboratory test tubes then


and you know <tamil>இல்ல:illa</tamil> like , microscope then of course ya


and the thing is that even our modern science have no idea how we even target, I mean or how we even understand properly what these ancient <tamil>அந்தஅறிவியல:andha ariviyala</tamil> scientists have fun of it to understand these things


and again it goes by which science you are trying to compare if you're going to look through the lens of a microscope then of course you're trying you're trying to, you kind of see that but if it's gonna be <tamil>ஆன்மீக:aanmeega</tamil> like if it's like I feel, it's not about a game saying there is or there isn't


going it with what <tamil>ஒருஒருதிறந்தமனதோடஉள்ளபோயிட்டு:oru oru thirantha manadhoda ulla poitu</tamil> leave your biasness your ego out of the door and genuinely to experiment and if it works good if it doesn't work move on I feel, like our own minds and again like as we're talking it's not like we are saints you know our own minds and our own egos are the ones that really restrict a lot of


let great learning opportunities are life I I'm only golden about our own a pretty dreary incurred ya if we can just like there was a great story effort their time went on someone spoke to this a certain and elicited surrender okay