it's no longer a law right that you can't smoke weed in err oh ya some states ya correct but then again in US some states allow you to you know


I think some states allow you to do it with animals so you know not all states have best laws so best is to legalise it in all states if you don't use like some states <tamil>ல வந்து:la vanthu</tamil> weed legal <tamil>னா:na</tamil> some states no weed legal <tamil>இல்ல:illa</tamil> should be err same for all so that it's fair for all


that's that's true that's very true so now that you know the we talking about lockdown right something that was stopped during the lockdown right is actually football you know football fans around the world right that means the lockdown err <tamil>ஆனாவந்து:aana vanthu</tamil> err so in the in the middle of the season is around like march period <tamil>வந்து:vanthu</tamil> lockdown <tamil>அவங்கவந்து:avanga vanthu</tamil> I think like similarly err other countries in the world also announced at the same time cause they realise about the impending ah like the situation so <tamil>என்னாச்சுன்னா வந்து அந்த:ennachunna vanthu antha</tamil> the football was stopped and like everybody was forced to you know train at home and you know just err do their own err fitness at keep your own fitness at home so <tamil>அதுல என்னாச்சுன்னா வந்து:adhula ennachunna vanthu</tamil> football players right err they they they they they they took to social media so fitness social media upload <tamil>பண்ணாங்க</tamil> and like this err is err you know I think that's that's one like example of a good influence so <tamil>அவரு:avaru</tamil> example <tamil>எனக்கு தெரிஞ்சது வந்து:enaku therinjathu vanthu</tamil> err marcus rashford so err <tamil>அவர் பண்ண விஷயம் வந்து:avar panna vishayam vanthu</tamil> you know he's err


I think now the other people who have thought of it so what he has done right is err in UK err normally what happens is that they give school lunches to like poor kids in err like elementary and middle school but like what happened is that they suddenly took that away from them so like the poor kids had to pay for their own lunch so what marcus rashford <tamil>தெரிஞ்சிஎன்னசெஞ்சாருனாவந்து:therinji enna senjaruna vanthu</tamil> he himself <tamil>அவரேகாசுகொடுத்துஎல்லாமே:avare kaasu koduthu ellame</tamil> he started providing for all the school lunches for all the the kids who couldn't afford them and like this slowly err like he was well known until the the the the the the court ask him sorry the person of authority err like came to know about this in the UK and they said that you know they should flip this and you know they should provide err free err meals for those who can't afford it cause <tamil>சாப்பாடுவிசயத்துலவந்து:sapadu visayathula vanthu</tamil> actually <tamil>இப்படிப்பட்ட:ippadipata</tamil> if people can't afford it then you know somebody else who can afford it should help them and that's where rashford has been a very good role model and that's where he has been granted MBE <tamil>அதுவந்துஉலகத்துலயேபெரியஒருபணம்அதுவந்துராஜாவேவந்து:adhu vanthu ulgathula periya oru panam adhu vanthu rajave vanthu</tamil> honour <tamil>கொடுப்பாரு:koduparu</tamil> so err men's best err england football so MBE so marcus rashford <tamil>என்னதான்வந்து:enna thaan vanthu</tamil> he feed err you know unfed children in the the UK and like I think he's a real world role model and I think <tamil>எந்த</tamil> team support <tamil>பண்ணாலும்:pannalum</tamil> I think nobody can hate rashford and you know err this let him even like after seeing what he has done


so so sorry <tamil>நான்வந்து:naan vanthu</tamil> I just wanted to say something here the thing that in US right like if you go to fast food restaurant right it's more expensive to buy a salad than to buy a a double cheeseburger I think it it'll cost like one dollar and like the salad is like three four dollars and again because a dollar to buy the diet coke they say it's diet but it's it's it's not so healthy than to buy a mineral water at the shop which is like two three dollars so like the like


like you mention the michelle obama bringing up the like healthy eating right I think is really really important in a good err like it's it's a it's a it's a important step in the right direction and I think that you know obesity definitely needs to be tackled and like this is a like start by you know cutting down on fried food sugary food oily food and all that


that's true that's true <tamil>புரியுது:puriuthu</tamil> so like err you know err like your cousin like the story you mentioned right says that you know there's a


weight gain and weight loss err you know it's very err you know on and off thing so <tamil>இதுஎன்னனா:idhu ennana</tamil> like something we can't control is hereditary like diabetes and all this and like the things we can control is the food that we eat and the diet that we eat err diet that we choose and also the lifestyle that choose know lifestyle plays a very big part in in our body healthy especially like you know exercise eh <tamil>பண்ணாமஇருந்தாலும்:pannama irunthalum</tamil> you will really really expect that body and I think exercise is a very very important


, for the body and like <tamil>எப்போலாம்:epolam</tamil> chance <tamil>கிடைக்குதோஅப்போல்லாம்:kidaikutho apollam</tamil> exercise <tamil>பண்ணாஉடம்பு:panna udambu</tamil> it is for a long run err err future <tamil>பார்க்கணும்:parkanum</tamil> so <tamil>நம்ம:namma</tamil> exercise <tamil>பண்ணாநம்மளுக்குத்தான்நல்லதுநம்மஉடம்புக்குத்தான்நல்லது:panna nammaluku thaan nallathu namma udambuku thaan nallathu</tamil> you know know when there are like factors that is like where you know it's a it's not controlled by you when and and there are factors that you are you can control and when you like even control just control it so you know you don't regret anything in life so like <tamil>எப்போதும்வந்துவாழ்க்கைல:epothum vanthu vazhgaila</tamil> life <tamil>வந்து:vanthu</tamil> I think we we should <tamil>நீயும்நானும்:neeum naanum</tamil> we should live life to the fullest and <tamil>நாமஎன்னசெய்ரோம்னாநம்மவந்து:namma enna seiromna namma vanthu</tamil> no regrets <tamil>இருக்கனும்அதேநேரத்துலவந்து:irukanum adhe nerathula vanthu</tamil> we should live a long and healthy life so we we are able to you know eat the once in a while like you mention always once in a while is always good to eat unhealthy food I mean not so unhealthy but like eat food that you're craving for for the long run because if we stay healthy we can take care of our parents our kids you know err and our grandkids <tamil>இதெல்லாம்அப்டியே:idhellam apdiye</tamil> we we we would like you know to live long enough to experience all of these so it's always good to you know be healthy and you know stay active


so like I think you brought up a very good point that you know to eat outside so comparing eating outside and eating at home right so <tamil>எப்பப்பலாம் சான்ஸ்கிடைக்குதோ அப்பபலாம்:eppapalam chance kidakutho appapalam</tamil> please eat and I think maybe should all dinner <tamil>நீயும்நானும்</tamil> should eat at home because right err you know even though err you you you feel like sometimes indian food is too much right we can always cook our own food like I think the other time you were telling me about how you cooking cauliflower rice and all that so I think we can always take healthy alternatives but as if we choose <tamil>எப்பப்பலாம் சான்ஸ்கிடைக்குதோ:eppapalam chance kidaikutho</tamil> they are definitely gonna add a lot of preservatives like I think this call and it's so unhealthy especially indian food so I think we should like eat at home and know exercise as much as possible and you know


stay active and you know <tamil>அந்தஇடத்துல:antha idathula</tamil> exercise <tamil>பண்றதுக்குநெறய:panrathuku niraiya</tamil> benefit <tamil>இருக்கு:iruku</tamil> if you know it replaces the err the the hormone to make you happy and serotonin ya correct makes you happy and also you know makes you feel good about yourself I've never seen someone right who has had a workout right and then he's angry afterwards I think it's a natural process <tamil>அவங்கஎன்னசொல்றங்கனா:avanga enna solranganna</tamil> after you know they workout then they just get happy and then you know what they just do is err


they will just you know enjoy life because they are happy because of the serotonin they produce, and the thing is that <tamil>நம்மவாழ்க்கஎதுக்குவாழுறோம்:namma vazhgai edhuku vazhuro</tamil> when you want to be happy and you want to live a long life so definitely what is important is to stay healthy and you know eat good food and you know just be active for life


if that day right I already start uh applying for jobs on this uh, fast job app online then a few of the jobs ah like very interesting


have you ever tried that before


but uh because the pay they say it's about hundred and twenty per visit, so then they pay you upfront ke or they, they will see your they will see your feedback and then after that they will uh record and then they will see then they will pay


, but that time when you got the pay how much is it


so they pay according to the outlet you go or they just pay according to the assignment, , ah


so basically you just have to rate the uh display and then the customer service price you know but price should be the same right


oh my god


, but it's so weird right I mean like you are being a demanding difficult customer and then end up you never buy Paiseh right


so it's kind of like they are expecting you to come lah it's just that they don't know who only right, oh my god


but imagine ah if let's say they, there's like two or three shopper inside and then they are showing good service to other people except you


then ah another job I tried right is the NTUC, then they call me actually they said the it's a permanent part time but it's at unity, that means doing the pharmacy punya side lah but the problem is I have to, be to commit long term because I was telling them


I can only work until december but then dia orang cakap cannot they have to I have to commit at least one year, wasted right and then the uh apa ni we the we bounce email back and forth back and forth and then ended up you know what my colleague got it


and she resigned straightaway you know ya she just informed my boss she just say that uh she got a new job, and then she just decided to leave the company lah but anyway the market is also not so good right now right


so ya lah anyway I don't know how much is the pay though but it's quite good lah it's three times a week only, permanent part time but they need it uh long term, uh shift work I think they will give it to you eight hours per day


is so it's quite convenient what it's just like one train away, don't have to even change train,


ya, that's why I was thinking I was attracted to the job because I was thinking, I have to work twice a week with the current employer, so these three three another three days right I can actually, ya I can actually kerja dekat uh sana [kan] if they can ini but then too bad


they ask me to commit until one year who knows what's going to happen next year right, because if the economy pick up then I will have to work full time already mah, uh the hypermart the shopping mall at your place


but that one is uh apa ni that one pun uh ada shift ah seven to, three three to eleven or something like that the one that I think you say too early to come right, but anyway they only need two staff lah


, so just anyway just send lah just see how, but some of them ah don't even bother to reply


even uh temperature taking also they ask you to apa ni they will ask you to commit for at least, one six months ah six months to one year you know, and then uh they say you cannot choose the shift, you cannot choose uh the day that you want to work everything will be assigned by the manager


and it's just temperature taking


and the what do they do they just sit there right and then they make sure that you do the safe entry and then they make sure that your temperature is okay and then you wear mask, ten dollar eh, the one


there are so many infection, then you don't know if you are going to get infected, because the one that I saw published is a wet market, ten dollar per hour


then after that err also I think it's mondays to, eh it's alternate days eh, like monday you work tuesday you off and then wednesday you work, but the problem is my current job we won't know our work schedule until nearer the date


so I cannot commit to the days that the temperature screening wants to take also, yes


no because sometimes it's up to the apa tu management to, put in the days that they want us to work like sometimes I can work monday friday sometimes it's like wednesday thursday sometimes in a week I only work one time, sometimes they ask me to take annual leave right so the whole week I will not be working like this week ah


actually they will give us uh every end of the month for the following month


say one week before lah macam like this week right by thursday friday they will tell me my next week schedule to confirm, what day I'm working so hopefully tak ada change


and the worst part is of course you have to prioritize your current job, ah rather than your part time job


correct that's why I think my colleague [kan] dia tak nak she doesn't want to do this uh macam because one thing the part time that the unity one you cannot choose, the shift and you cannot choose the time so she doesn't want to commit, and then down here got problem so in the end she decided to quit lah and then she choose she told the unity side to that you want to work full time instead


ya she requested for a full time tapi bagus kau dia punya because of, the qualification lah I think, actually they are looking for a cashier cum store assistant take stock all these ah tapi because of dia punya qualification and maybe also because she want to do full time right


they actually put her to a supervisor slash manager role you know, ya I mean it's good for her also anyway she's dia dia pun I think on work pass eh, because we cannot my current employer dia cakap if let's say you're on work pass because a few of them were asking can they


work go back to their country and still work because we work remotely right, then my company say cannot because uh according to the MOM rule you cannot do that lah if you work in singapore


you are under singapore employment you cannot go back philippines or malaysia or brunei then work from their remotely because, it will I think there's some law thingy ah and then kesian [kan] all these uh, WP passes holder like because what they are thinking is dia orang nak save on rental


ah then down there tak ada imagine one person rent one room like five six hundred and then now your pay is like half, so basically ah you are giving all your pay to your landlord you know, even my ex colleague also I I heard uh my ex company


some of the pinoys ah they instead of staying one room one person right now what they did is, two person or three person in one room so they share the rental so at least if the rental is like six hundred each of them pay two hundred


rent


he actually rented out his room you know to malaysian, so what he did is because he's staying alone now, the father passed away a few years back lah so he staying the whole house alone and then dia cakap ah he advertise on gumtree


so these uh factory workers right actually contacted him directly and rent his room the two rooms, so you know what monthly he got extra uh I think thousand five or two thousand you know


for the two rooms eh and then I think there's uh three three or four people only renting like per room I think got two people lah, and most of the time he say he just stay in his room, with aircon and with uh TV that's it tak keluar pun and all these factory workers they are working at night right so they are during the day they are at home


whereas si azman ni pula uh dia kerja (ppc), day time he's at home he's working remotely lah, and then at night he say he have the house to all to himself tak kecoh-kecoh you know, and, ya and then anyway they come back also just to sleep so I ask him then cooking how dia cakap cooking because all male


so he said uh sometimes they Dabao then sometimes they cook so he just eat, then when come to cleaning the house and everything right, everybody just do their part lah, then I say the toilet how then he say the toilet toilet they clean lah then I'm like eh but you are using the toilet also eh


how can you ask people to clean and some more they pay you rent eh , uh I think five room also ah dekat woodlands, good money right actually


thirty percent ke forty percent so the rental income that he got makes up for the pay that he kena cut, that's why at least something right, too bad I don't have room to spare


ya, we every time have to go to the kitchen go to the toilet you know, for him is everything he have is in the room he can just lock himself in the room


so I guess it's better for him also lah, ya actually he was saying maybe after COVID over right he was thinking of selling off the house also, so we were telling him why do you want to sell the house you see it can generate income for you you know even if you want to retire early right you can just


rent out the extra rooms that you have and then ya get income from there, you don't have to work so hard anymore, I think still have a bit ah that time he mentioned


but cool right I mean like you don't really have to struggle lah macam ada job ada job tak ada job tak ada job anyway I have extra income, it's just that when it comes to spending you have to be more prudent lah you cannot anyhow spend


that's why, ya


maybe have lah because they had they didn't really close all the borders worldwide, it's just that right now travel is only restricted to business or people going back to their hometown own country


ya, and I think flights also not regular so you have to, those who are urgently need to balik kampung or urgently need to go travel for business sign contract or whatever thing right, they have to go means they have to go lah I guess but then


ya lah like you say I that day I went to linkedin also I saw they can still offer salary at like six thousand for EA or PA you know, I mean like it's too good to be true right


actually I also think so you know I mean like maybe most of the uh advertisement right or the job uh post on link in linkedin, are mostly macam like attracting you you know and then like you say maybe is just to collect data so once the


because I think now they know that a lot of people are being retrenched out of job, so people are looking for a job so what they do is they just entice you


maybe interview will be just with the recruitment agency lah


and then once they interview you they will rate you and then they will if let's say anybody looking for, any position any position open right then they will see who qualifies best lor, but then six thousand eh


I didn't know that uh all these personal assistant right and executive assistant can earn until so much you know


but but with six K ah I don't think the job is going to be as easy as it looks ah sometimes you know all these bosses


retrench, golden handshake


ya I guess tapi ten K eh


that is what we call work smart, I'm sure ah when she earn ten K per month that time right she will


she will keep some and like you say she got rental from condo all these rental from condo ah is not cheap you know I mean like if it's a corporate rental ah can, give her like four five K per month eh, because I have friends who married #ang moh# right so expat ah


she said she rented one condo dekat uh harbourfront down there per month is five K you know, so can you imagine the owner of the condo every month ah you can just shake leg if you don't work also can you just take it rental five thousand, ya


good right, anyway then after that you guys don't keep contact already ah


but how long have she been working with the company, but sometimes boys boss bosses lah I mean like


as male bosses are okay, ya they can demand a lot of things or this one cannot that one cannot you know I don't like this I don't like that


that's why sometimes I hear complain from EA ah macam , err the husband is paying what why is the wife getting involved you know, but sometimes again you cannot blame the the bosses because the bosses are too busy, so they leave it over to the wife to handle and that's where it gets complicated


ah I also got one experience because apa ni dia punya secretary punya boss the boss is a very nice guy you know, and then ah uh every year they have this uh macam trip home trip lah so call home leave, entitlement so instead of going back home they can use it for their holiday trip


as long as the amount don't exceed if exceed the amount then of course they have to top-up themselves so if they don't use and then just rugi lah it's like forfeited, so what the they did is they always ah book first book a travel first


then lepas tu [kan] nanti along the way there will be changes of course, then got one time ah suddenly the the secretary call me and say eh how come my boss ah the krisflyer point is , uh apa ni kenapa deduct eh I think about two two hundred thousand or something like that it's a lot you know it's a lot of amount


so dia cakap uh did he upgrade or any he asked me to check dia kata bila krisflyer actually deduct salah or what, so I check check check then I say no so far is all paid by this uh relocation company


the wife redeem uh free ticket, to go to london and then after that go to new york to visit the daughter, she never she never tell him that's why then he like what


and the best part ah they didn't even uh say anything to me you know, then after that uh until I ask again ah, the how you find out about the missing miles


is it really our fault or krisflyer for or whose fault, and then the secretary also Paiseh ah I said oh ya we found out actually the wife claim the miles because want to get free ticket, she thought that the uh points are expiring so she thought maybe ya she just claim lor


and never even bother to tell him, ya funny right can you imagine he sekali ah he keep keep keep the point to do something or to bring the family out or what sekali ah the


ya, ah every time like that nanti karang uh apa tu you I I purposely want to travel with this airline because I, I got this card and then I want to claim mileage here I want to macam-macam lah


ya and then yet the company is telling us to save cost save cost, what the hell right, ya because the SQ fare pun if you take the lowest you cannot claim mileage


so you have to take either the mid range but maybe you can only uh get like fifty percent of the mileage, very flexible one ah that one you will get hundred percent of the mileage


yes lepas tu the company is telling us to save cost, I always get like you see lah you you keep on telling us to get the cheapest one the cheapest one then in the end


we when we change it become more expensive like hello it's not my job you know you company is telling is your company's direction


otherwise right if you want to sell this type of ticket ah you must tell them this one ah if you change right is so much so much already so you better


you better think first before we do the changes before we proceed to book or issue the ticket


remember that time yang kau punya si ex, then in the end what happen


but how much was the ticket, and then how you explain to your boss


but how much how much was the ticket, okay lah not that much ah, ya because usually the cheapest one then you cannot no refund no nothing everything cannot right


of course it's the chance for airlines to just freely get four hundred dollars and nobody is travelling they can sell back the seat to the public, why not


no but but how come you book you don't book all three together


!aiya! for actually for them ah definitely they want to they will apa ni push push to somebody what, even if it's their fault also they will just push to somebody cause but then you cannot lah because this is obviously your mistake


for us ah the reason is always like that we already send to you the email why you never check and then now you want to say that we did it wrongly, when actually it's, obviously it's our fault lah because by right whatever that they give us we have to counter check and make sure that everything is alright what how can we just you know


book lepas tu tak check and then just give, but it's actually very scary ah especially if, luckily he is a nice person can you imagine if he's the demanding one like no I want to fly now, I don't care what flight you get for me blah blah blah blah blah blah


so that means you actually buy him a new ticket


and then the new flight that you take for him SQ


ya, no I think it's expensive pasal ah it's either a different airline or you buy a one way ticket


but he's from which airport, it's either #ho chin minh# or Hanoi, actually #ho chin minh# ada banyak flight apa vietnam air I think at least got three or four flight


so in the end I think you must have booked him on SQ lah because only these two fly direct what, other than that ada budget airlines, ya


ya lah very scary especially the hotel bit


of course it's not funny lah you crazy macam I can imagine you don't have anything down there and then here he call you and you are laughing away, of course he's also angry right that's why I say luckily he didn't jump and you know scold you on the spot


actually you shouldn't divide like that you should do the flight and then one person do the flight one person do the hotel, you do this batch I do this batch ah it's quite difficult, or maybe what you can do is what you should do is


if you want to divide the job right so you based on the departure date lah so at least eh, which is more urgent and then you take the one departure departing on monday which is less urgent and you got more time to check


wait wait wait so that means ah the person that you cock up is your team or


the hotel sell to them ten room and then booking dot com maybe the hotel sell fifteen rooms, so that's why if you go agoda all the ten rooms are booked tapi bila you go to booking dot com maybe they are still five rooms available


so it depends on how much how many rooms the website want to buy from the hotel lah, you tell them that you have a group of more than ten people then see negotiate the pay rate ah


maybe you should have gotten the hang of it of it already what


you can always book through, all these third party from the website lah no problem it's just that we can group is a bit is going to be a bit messy so maybe you just have to organise, and when it comes to hotel because sometimes ah hotel themselves even though they give uh they sell their rooms to all these third party


I'm sure they have their own bilik tau, yes they have to they have to keep a few rooms available in case if people walk-in what, then they will sell it at a higher rate of course lah right, so if let's say you have a group of at least more than ten even five people ah


you can also tell them you you have five people coming in on this date, so what is the best price that you can give that's what we always do also, okay if let's say you have like long stay, people staying like a week or ten days at least ah you also can call them and you tell them okay I have this one ah family who wants to stay for ten days


so what is your best rate, ya you can just call them don't go to the third party first because uh booking from third party ah I know it's quite difficult, because you have to do one by one one by one right, ya, actually the best if you call the hotel like they will organize everything we just say okay saturday departure I have five and then maybe monday


monday uh sorry saturday arrival I have five pax, and then monday arrival I have another ten pax


then how


I think it's china #hong kong# tak payah visa, but #hong kong# UK passport don't need visa what, I know vietnam visa is very expensive


you can it can cost about four hundred to six hundred dollars, ah apa tu US passport I think it's about three hundred dollars


no but usually visa upon arrival lah always uh tourist, so probably this time round when he go he at airport where they ask him what is your purpose of travel he say business, that's why he cannot


they don't allow him to go


I guess when you arrange for travel you just have to, most importantly is the visa, especially those people holding like indian passport indonesia china


but luckily tak payah I mean they don't have to is a paper visa you don't have to stamp it on the passport, otherwise you will waste one day, they he will not be chilling he will be like screaming at you


he he must have hated the person so much or it's just


he's like telling the camera person to just F off


but he's like one of the bosses or no, ya


I think people everybody have their evil side, sometimes ah you just, can you imagine ah if you are working with all these fun people then suddenly one day the company just go bust


everybody have to go your separate way sad right, but then ah I mean like for your case also it's quite difficult


the company is like neither here nor there kalau kau apply for a job and let's say you get a job, so are you going to take it or you just want to stay with the company you know, I mean like if you move on you have start all over again


but if you stay on you don't know what is your future going to be like, I think this company uh US based right


oh, so I guess I think everybody also scared it's better to have a second job, well maybe if you see that probably all the linkedin punya tu is under recruitment agency no harm just go lah anyway they just want to collect data what


ya, I mean if it comes up then you see the situation your company, if it's not getting any better then you just grab the opportunity ah anyway if you go interview also doesn't mean that you get it !duh!


ya just put out your resume first [ah], (mm)


(mmhmm), , oh okay okay okay aku pernah dulu aku pernah buat apa ni mystery shopper that was many years back lah then after that uh the I only did once, because uh lepas tu like there's no job and nobody call me lah I did the ah aku pernah buat yang apa yang shopping tu eh


I did the one for uh one of the retailers in singapore lah but I have to go it's a it's a one brand tapi aku kena pergi banyak-banyak outlet tau lepas tu [kan], uh it's a very it's a very interesting job and it's uh the pay is good the I just have to go there and basically I pretend to be a customer lah


then uh I have there's a whole checklist of things lah that I need to look like the shop display the product display then the some, one of the important one is the customer service ah because they are rating customer service punya survey, so you actually depends ah macam when you go for this job they will advise you first like what are the things err they are looking out for


and then err ya but for me is I just concentrate one brand tapi aku kena pergi banyak-banyak outlet lah, but I got a friend who was doing something similar tapi dia punya product is


err groceries she have to go to a few uh supermarket, hypermarket that kind of thing uh all within her area, then uh she's given one product so it actually varies macam kau buat uh mystery shopping right, it's not just like shopping items sometimes it can even be like err basic necessity macam for your home


so it can be like anything lah depends on the product they are doing the survey for, but uh my friend one is quite interesting dia pergi dia buat pasal uh food product ah I think they give her one product, can't remember what product I think macam like uh macam maggi then with a a particular brand specific brand


to actually err, err do a survey on the product pricing, so it depends ah macam mana kau punya what when you get the job you can actually find out what it's very interesting for a and it's very good pay


, no I think when they when you do for them right they will give you the assignment then you go and do right they will give you like one week or two weeks they will give you a deadline that you have to come back to them with the result lah responses ah, so it's your own free time bila kau nak pergi besok ke bila kau nak bila-bila once you are done before that the deadline that they give you


you just come back to the office then you just you submit everything so they will look through I think you should get your pay around one week later, ya it's quite fast cuma uh they will give you a deadline lah by this date kau kena submit back come back to the office and submit ah


but it was just like say uh one retailer then I think two three usually it's three and more lah three different outlet, and ya but it's not hundred lah is only but it's the pay is good lah for that time


outlet [kan] then , the one the ya then the questions is all similar lah cuma three different outlet kau kena pergi then macam outlet A outlet B outlet C lepas tu the questions are the same ah


ya, uh price about it it's the same lah because it's the same retailer [pe], so customer service then the setting of the shop the display all that macam berselerak ke ataupun very neat always very neat


and then err I had uh my my, my assignment was I have to be a difficult customer, so I have to be like a shopper lah like have to go around like I want to try this I want to try that this one got other size this one got the colour like testing the patience eh, ya and then after that it was very fun because I find that ya I don't have to purchase anything what at the end of the day I just have to rate them


so err it was interesting then after that err, I just, ya I I mean I managed to rate them lah then I I go into the fitting room and I quickly take out my paper and quickly write down like whatever in case I forgot


ya lah but then no choice what and then is this this is like uh you are earning what is like a job so no choice and I think the shops are also uh, they they know that mean their their company already inform them lah like, maybe informed the manager lah not the ground staff maybe informed the manager that


uh eh this date this or this week right got this date this time uh apa ni surveyor coming, that kind of thing lah they don't say like mystery shopper lah maybe surveyor lah, ah they don't know who they don't know when


they then only know this week got one person one uh uh a surveyor is coming to check out the store so every all the staff is, informed to like be in their best behaviour like be the best giving your the best service


, then too bad lah then you know like they are not consistent right so obvious, so it's like uh consistency lah cuma the, the thing that they the good thing is that the staff already know lah that this week uh got got got what shopper so they don't know who so this whole week they are they will be in their best


uh customer service you know that they can give but then uh other weeks maybe we don't know so it's like that lor, ,


one year eh, , oh my gosh


, it's like part time ah


oh, !wow!, okay,


, just nice


, ya lah, that's why,


ah ah, , ya ya


two staff only right at the outlet, , ya but, !wah! that's nothing new lah because like now I think everybody is looking for a job


right so it's like like like so many applicants to one job so it's like it's a numbers game ah


, , , ya lah but I heard that the pay is quite good you know uh apa ni I think it's fifteen dollars per hour


and then like uh my friend was saying ah like you can easily earn hundred dollars if you work longer shift you know like or like you full do full time the pay is really good lah


ya lah no it's more than ten I think, depends on the places that you are assigned to I think like macam dormitories eh the they can even pay up to macam I think twenty five dollars, that's why I was telling my friend uh and my friend was saying lah macam gini like uh she just have to work three four hours part time she already earn like almost hundred dollars you know


, , true lah, ya lah,


ah


, but you mean your current job is they give you two days work week right


, oh, like that like like they give you a schedule is it then when they will inform you like one week in advance ah like okay next week you only do you work monday friday only ah


ah, , [orh]


ya lah, , true true, like that is like also working part time at your current job but it's just that they will assign you your shift I mean your your days of work like whenever you know


, , oh but over there she get full time instead of the three days part time


(mmhmm), !huh!, ah


!wow! lucky sia, (hmm)


, , , ya lah


oh ya, ya ah


, ya lah like they have to save cost lah if but then, and then I mean like (ppc) the owner also cannot like uh reduce the, the, the rental right ya lor


, why


(mmhmm) (mmhmm), [orh] okay, (mmhmm), (uh huh)


, , , oh my god


oh so interesting, , oh, ah okay


ya lah rumah dia berapa bilik [seh], oh, ya lah


, ah that's smart, ya lah, but then you have to get used to staying with a stranger I mean like outsiders eh


, ya lah ya lah true,


oh he's staying alone now is it, ,


ya but is he still paying for the house or it's already fully paid, , ya lah true


ya lah ya lah, , but it's good lah I mean like whatever he lost I mean like the thirty percent that he didn't get from the pay right he actually make up for it with the rental


that's good, it's so far it's still okay lah we don't have any pay cut tapi macam , stability I I think everybody is quite is being very cautious also ah


so like uh and then plus being in the fintech [kan] macam don't know whether is good or is not good because like the situation now it's like so so unpredictable


and then uh we are also like doing travel insurance then so travel insurance is very much affected like nobody's travelling, so that that's already like zero percent revenue coming in eh, then uh like other products macam very slow moving so we don't know how long we can sustain


and, ya lah I mean rumours have been going around lah it's better to look for something else but again in this situation macam mana nak cari [seh], like you see like everywhere you apply also like like I see lah like one job like ten applicants or twenty applicants applying for one job


in a couple of months down the road who knows and then if I will have to start looking it's like so competitive, and then uh don't know if there is even a job then I I haven't been looking lah but, yesterday I I just yesterday was the first time I just browse through linkedin ah so so far there's still a lot of job I don't know how these company


can actually keep still keep recruiting for for admin backend support, and uh and and and the job scope the funny thing is the job scope still put there to to arrange travel uh travel arrangement visa application I was like, who travel at this point of time I mean I don't know lah but my whole company is like they freeze travel lah


so I was like eh when I look at linkedin I was like eh ada eh orang masih nak masih nak cari ni ah, like EA for to do travel booking lah visa application I was like but where got people travel nowadays


really,


, , ya lah crazy right that's why and then you see the job scope right it's still the is all the same thing lah basically like


travel and then after that set up meeting blah blah blah but I was like the travel part is like I'm curious I was thinking, and then especially if I see like on linkedin right the the recruit is from a recruiter eh, from like ah ah headhunter agency eh no recruitment agency right, then I'll be like so skeptical like are they just collecting data collecting resumes so that later on they can just call you up


, ya lah, [kan] I also thought like that so I thought like maybe tonight ah I want to just send out resumes and see


whether got uh really like they will call me and arrange really will arrange interview or not, see how it goes like like play them back


ya lor makes sense actually I saw the one that I saw is uh four thousand five I happy already four thousand five more achievable six thousand is too far away


can lah Wei cause uh like more senior level lah like you got years of experience and plus if they are in it it mean if they are lucky lah they get a very easy boss, with


eh you never know you know my previous company there's this one err uh E old EA she's not just senior she's also old, then the boss always travel overseas pergi overseas punya office [kan]


and she just sit down and do and just go around I mean just basically going around the office and talking to people, and then go for lunch for very long and then just, she likes to delegate and conquer her job she go and did whatever she get right she will ask this person to do ask this person and every ask will ask everybody to do lah


except for herself unless if like her boss is in town in the office then she will like, basically aku tengok macam , like what why why are you being paid eight nine thousand doing nothing like you could just go around and she can go for like yearly europe trips okay, I was like oh my gosh macam some people are just so lucky


and then her boss always fly around so she's quite free, and then uh selalu tak nak ajar lepas tu macam tolak balak [jer] lah like like just ask people to do ah ask people to do the powerpoint


uh ask people to change the apa send out the video but her pay is so damn good okay sekali it in the end bila dia punya boss tu dah tua ah


ah yes yes yes they say golden handshake lah but we all speculate like there's something else but anyway we're evil people, so uh they we speculated ah dia dia kata golden handshake so the boss leave right, then after one month she's also asked to leave she is not even asked to take care of another team or another department eh


because obviously you are being paid too high lah and people have eyes to see what so I think, even though you are being paid very well at the moment I mean there's always a time when you will fall lah like too bad


then she got one condo that she's renting out and she got another place to stay and she got every uh I think september october period she will go


that's why like I'm so pissed off like we have to do from scratch powerpoint hers is just she ask people to do, then she take the powerpoint she check everything nice already then she just give her boss then her boss will do the presentation, but who the she was the one who supposed to do the powerpoint you know in the end she ask the other people yang macam very uh pandai buat powerpoint [kan]


ah then buat lepas tu dia dia just submit to the boss that's all her job like that I also can do and I can still earn eight nine K you know, uh, oh my gosh ya lah she's she very good at the work smart but I don't know how is she now but they say like even though she got retrenched or she got asked to leave right


she won't she will still continue to survive lah because she's such she's so rich eh,


ya lah, ,


, ya lah that's why I was like uh oh my gosh like so some people are so lucky, no lah but she was she was okay lah it's just that she's an okay friend but then it's just that working wise macam suka ask people to do buat ni buat tu eh


then she will be like uh sorry I have a a lunch appointment sorry I have this appointment that appointment lepas tu kalau tidak dia cakap okay dia tolong [kan]


eh when you ask me to ask you to to help you I help you [seh] then I was like okay lah then just telan [jer] lah because we are all junior level what she's the senior one what, oh she's been there for a long very long lah usually those uh EAs who get paid very high almost ten K is those that has been working there like more than five years


and has been with the same boss, ,


really ah,


, , ya that time my friend got told me the uh one of her experience [kan], the the wife actually came to the office to get money from the husband


then because that time she was the PA or something then she was then the but she already got the authority lah the the boss will give her the supplementary card eh but the but don't know why, the boss don't want to give to the wife directly or forgot or whatever lah whatever reason, until the boss that got one day the boss go and tell her uh eh later my wife is coming just pass her the card


then then later the wife really come then I was like !wah! so interesting I never like encounter this kind of thing before but she say it's like, cool lah like like you experience a lot you know then you can really see the wife come and like, uh ya I need to take something from my husband you know then then she will like ya it's in this envelope like it's uh he already ask me to pass you I was like


ah ah, (uh huh) ya, oh, ,


!wow!, ,


, !huh!, oh my gosh


, ya lah at least can just must tell him right,


ya lah irritating because usually when they travel it's uh company what so but they can accumulate their own points, !haiya!


yes yang dulu tu uh every time want to travel on SQ only, ya lah, so funny but they are allowed to travel on SQ lah but then macam ah cannot the expensive uh like whatever flight eh kau tahu dari like expensive flights and all that right


oh,


, ya lah macam yang boleh cancel boleh change semua [kan],


ya lah that's why we are supposed to see like the, whether the boss will always change or not if were those that will keep on changing changing one then no choice have to take the hundred percent free cancellation the the most expensive one ah


then if like those who like really will keep to the the the itinerary and will not change right ah okay then we can get the cheapest ah like more less less risk


ya lor


ya lah tu pasal kadang-kadang ah like what like especially the boss that likes to change every time will change lah or confirm will change his flight one right


, cannot lah cannot cannot waive off the thing also still have to pay the penalty because uh it's I think oh that one is because the name, the name is uh typo error or something typo, ah macam ah the first name and last name terbalik apa and then got one or like I think two alphabet lah typo error


but it's so irritating [seh] because we went back and forth then I was telling them like uh when oh no the, because when I put in my email address or something one of the button right it auto change, the traveller's name to my name because I cannot use that uh apa macam


back button ah, instead of typing out everything right because when they prompt me is it you want to use this email address I straightaway click right, so once I click that one ah the one on top all change to my name, and then I never check the passenger name what I straight because I initially I remembered when I fill in the passenger name I fill in correctly what


so after that I went ahead and pay pay pay pay pay after that when I paid then they came out the passenger's name is my name then I was like oh shit


and then uh apa ni they say cannot then I said, then cuma the last part the contact person (ppc) the contact person when I fill up my uh I fill up my name


then uh there's one part that they they auto macam auto fill eh, auto fill so uh I put in the alphabet then after that they auto they prompt me is it like this email address so I click the auto fill lah, how would I know when I click auto fill like, the passenger name also got change


anyway so I still have to pay ah I have to purchase a a brand new ticket and this ticket is forfeited ah no show ah


I see, I think four hundred plus is it, luckily like promotion and cheapest eh


ya lah tapi macam irritating tak boleh kasih chance [seh]


irritating lepas tu [kan] lagi sekali uh is what ah, oh I go and book I go and book because it was like so many people travelling eh and then I like I get so confused I think at that time I was doing like, seven eight people from my team then uh after that there's like three other people that it's not from my team also I have to do


then after dah kecoh gila sekali got one guy and one guy right he's supposed to travel he is from vietnam to singapore he supposed to travel uh with, three others lah uh there's no three of them supposed to be travelling from that night right from vietnam to singapore three of them supposed to take the flight the same flight oh


from the company uh book for us and the three of us supposed to travel together ah


it's tomorrow's date dia kata ya so see your flight is tomorrow's date tomorrow's timing but it's the same time as that day lah yang dia nak kena depart [kan]


for tomorrow night instead of tonight and did you know that three of us are really at the airport and two of them is waving goodbye to him now because I'm stuck at the vietnam airport, I was like oh shit I was like mula-mula aku ketawa tau aku cakap !huh! aku macam ketawa ah


then I was like ah oh okay terus aku macam okay okay let me check for you like the next available flight ah dia kata err, I don't want to fly macam certain timing apa dia sekarang aku nak kena book under the new flight apa dia mati-mati nak leave uh that night ataupun the next day morning eh


he cannot leave as per what I've already booked for him, because he got meeting or whatsoever lah so he need to leave like there as soon as possible kecoh sia


uh it's too last minute and no hotels around here ah ya it's all fully book aku dah macam !alamak!


panic sia but luckily like, in the end we got lah lepas tu aku cakap dengan dia like uh aku tak boleh dapat flight yang kau betul-betul nak at this exact timing yang kau nak depart this is the only best option eh


hotel pula then uh last minute he say he just went back to the hotel that he just check out kesian kau I feel so bad I was like, to spare for me because when I called them they say don't have


so dia cari dah lah last minute tak ada hotel tapi nak cari hotel yang according to his category


she she ya she book for me the wrong date and I didn't check and now I'm stranded in vietnam and I can't attend the meeting which he the day that he was supposed to be back in singapore ah


ya lah, [kan] lepas tu aku cakap dengan dia lah eh then you also should check you know aku tapi aku macam okay lah let's not be let's not fight over this aku cakap dengan dia we are both at fault I booked wrongly and you didn't check


[kan],


ya lah true lah


uh budget flight pun tak ada unless you want to reel up and go via mana entah aku cakap dengan dia macam a very long route eh in the end you reach singapore also like the same, timing as if you take the next day afternoon flight which is much shorter time in the plane eh, and lepas tu macam but after that he was like okay lah tapi he took that opportunity to shoot me back ah in front of my boss dia cakap ah ya she book me on the wrong date


flight back aku dah macam tapi yang ni pun sepatutnya aku kena declare dengan finance the ya the CFO right, I was like no I just inform the finance uh girl accountant


vietnam airlines I think ya lah


uh aku rasa something more expensive tu pasal in the end he earn what right because he get to fly on the more expensive flight and don't have to go for meeting, one way ticket totally different airline kiranya vietnam tu forfeit ah pasal dia tak nak travel on that timing yang kat vietnam yang aku dah book tu the next day punya [kan]


then die die also want to travel the next day but must be earlier must be earlier, vietnam apa #ho chi minh#, #ho chi minh# #ho chi minh#


like coincidentally that day really like everything is like I mean that I really have no other seats eh no seats at all


budget airline yang kita check lepas tu ada like go uh transit via whatever very far away right, crazy, ya lah that's why I was like like lepas tu dia pula macam he's very particular hotel leh


then flight okay dia macam apa-apa macam economy apa-apa lah dia cuma but tapi hotel must be really, five star and must be really according to his type of room and must be smoking room he's very particular eh


two colleagues is waving goodbye at you and you are supposed to get on the same flight and then, and they are leaving you at the airport and you are stranded without a hotel and a flight ,


, [kan] kelakar [kan] tapi lepas tu bila dia balik singapore I think the next he say !hey! let me uh Hidayah let me buy you coffee we should go for a good coffee


we went through like so many booking and then takut macam duplicate booking [kan] macam aku dah book the book [kan]


but all like different departure date ah different timing different flight terus aku split dengan kawan aku ni aku cakap okay kau buat dia ni punya flight aku buat dia punya flight okay


but actually they they pass everything to me then I was like I cannot you tell me at five PM on a friday and you want to fly I think some of them flying on saturday some flying on monday eh, ah


oh ya ah,


so he take ya lah ah that's why some is his people her people some is my people right it's like different team [kan]


then I got like maybe three people that's also travelling on the same date as her one of the people that she's in her team so macam kita passing passing eh


no !huh!, ah aku punya team luckily that guy is like like like like very good I mean he's okay with me lah, he's irritatingly macam uh macam action he's from india


after that he we can still like laugh about it that kind but when work is like he's very serious ah but okay lah


and hotels dot com ada booking dot com tak ada sia then after that, after that my friend was like eh I cannot book then I was like eh I got two I still got two rooms you know at hotels dot com it's still uh showing available


oh no wonder,


, actually that time tu lah pasal ni [kan] is


eh like like can't you all like plan earlier is like so painful so I I'm quite thankful that it's COVID now so no travel, but once COVID is over I'm like !wah!


every time I do travel like so messy [seh], ya but it was very funny uh but now now that the travelling stopped for awhile right I think when once it start again I need to refresh refresher courses


, ya lah


ya, slots eh macam their own talk


oh, ah, (hmm), you mean I can just call them and ask


, , UK passport aku macam agaknya nak pergi satu country ni uh aku tak tahu which country I can't remember ah lepas tu I thought no need visa you know


ya I believe your passport no need visa confident sia lepas tu


then I buy ah urgent visa lah which cost like I think four hundred over dollars eh, I was like oh my gosh aku tak I can't remember ah UK passport or US passport going to #hong kong# or, I think #hong kong# or somewhere lah that is a chinese uh I mean a a locals asia PAC ah


not china leh we seldom go china what it's #hong kong# not, philippine , uh this type of country uh


oh vietnam maybe vietnam US passport, US passport ah I think US passport right,


oh shit abeh aku terus uh beli book [kan] dia on the spot aku cakap dengan dia I'm going to book for you I just realized that you need visa blah blah blah blah terus aku book eh four hundred plus tau urgent eh, I thought I don't need visa dia kata aku cakap dengan dia ya I also thought you don't need visa


and he doesn't need to like I think it's quite recently that they changed the countries eh, the countries that uh can my must apply visa cannot apply visa on arrival he say last time when he when he go there he straightaway apply visa on arrival it's like no issues


, or maybe he apply tourist visa on arrival lah dia tak go business eh


so he have the he's going for that that's why and we have all the letters from the convention punya tempat ah, so die die have to go for as business that's why bila aku check I was like oh shit


, , [kan]


(hmm), ya lah usually tourist tak payah [kan], , ya lah, ha ya lah #hong kong# no need ah aku rasa vietnam ke apa ah


then he was asking me so err did I get my visa already, padahal besok dia nak fly out tau abeh aku macam ya ya ya it's coming I'm going to set ah print it out terpaksa lah OT


uh apply for a visa before my trip eh dia kata I have just have to go there and get visa on arrival


!aiyo!, ya,


you ask him to do anything dia akan buat punya ah macam very like listen like very obedient small boy like that ah


I don't know, tu lah aku cakap dia ni agaknya busy gila eh sampai macam dia [dah] jadi [dah] lost it ah you know


, ah ha [kan], the one with the censored one or the correct one


!haiya!


, (hmm) but it's fun lah I mean I mean it's it's quite nice lah


, ya lah, that's why it's like but I'm just very thankful like so far up up till now it's still okay lah but I'm just say I'm just, counting my days lah I won't be lucky forever I'm just


ya lah, , [kan] ,


ya lah whether I can whether they will survive or not if they survive I survive ah but like suddenly if they ask me to leave then how, local


that's why it's, so should I find a job or not should I apply for a new job or what


ya and then maybe if something comes up, right, ya lah ya lah that's why just go and find only lah ah


just, but like not in a desperate need [lah] like just send out first and then (uh) see if like got interview just go and then you know like keep the options open in case


okay so hi err my name is Kumar and err I here I have my father with me so please introduce yourself


okay so I mean we haven't really done this before we never even like practise or anything yet so we don't know how it's going to turn out but we are just going to give this a try so let's just hope for the best and let's err hopefully we can clock one hours, and err let's see how it goes, okay so I mean we do have a few conversations to talk talk err couple of them are probably related to what's happening right now which is actually the COVID pandemic


it is happening right and now my father is actually he's still working so thank god for that I know a lot of my friends and their families, err you know they don't really have jobs and they have to like switch jobs and it's actually honestly is very like stressful for them so it's good that people right now those that still having their jobs


it's pretty good that they still manage to keep their jobs here so so dad is it like to you know be able to continue working as err as what as what you've been working for a very long time so tell me about that


okay so okay now I mean I I think I think we have to also converse in tamil as well dad so we need to mixed tamil and english together so now I will reply to you in tamil as much as I can so <tamil>உடனேபார்த்தீங்கன்னாஇப்போ:udane partheengana ipo</tamil> err, err <tamil>நான்வந்து:nan vandhu</tamil> I never really worked I never had it really have a full time job <tamil>அப்டினுஒரு:apdinu oru</tamil> job <tamil>இல்லஎனக்கு:illa enaku</tamil> so I'm just working on and off as a Grab food driver so I'm just doing like you know pick up and pick up parcel deliveries and all this err delivering to people and err so <tamil>அப்டித்தான்அப்டித்தான்சரிஅப்டித்தான்:apdithan apdithan sari apdithan</tamil> I've been there for the for the past few months during the COVID pandemic


and err it's been honestly lah it's been it's been really really good like err <tamil>காசுபார்க்கும்போது:kaasu parkumpothu</tamil> I think <tamil>அங்கநெறயகாசுவருது:anga neraya kaasu varuthu</tamil> honestly like as now I'm taking like the next probably the next big thing right now is actually the err the logistics side, and the delivery side


because honestly people I feel like <tamil>எல்லோரும்வந்துரொம்ப:ellorum vandhu romba</tamil> like very very lazy to even go out err people always want to order food because I mean that's one thing and maybe because of the pandemic also they didn't they don't want to go out you know, don't want to have err don't want to risk their don't want to risk themselves so the ones that are out there is usually like the delivery riders like myself and other people like GrabFood foodpanda you name it it's all of them so I feel like that has honestly made me


feel like !wow! okay so those delivery riders once we thought that they wouldn't make much of money now because of a pandemic they are the ones probably earning a lot of money because I actually <tamil>நான்அப்போவந்து:nan apo vandhu</tamil> last time <tamil>வந்துஒருத்தங்ககிட்டபேசுனேன்அவங்கசொன்னாங்கஇந்த:vandhu oruthangakita pesunen avanga sonnanga indha</tamil> err in the COVID <tamil>வந்து:vandhu</tamil> they actually earn almost


seven thousand dollars eight thousand dollars per month and this not even including the incentive so


from all over the world like shipment once even even even if the world goes dead the shipping the shipping industry the delivery industry wouldn't die so then that's one of the main reason why I actually like what you said err I actually now I'm err during a full time internship, at at this start up company that is actually a overseas company as well and handling like hardware stuff so that's that's the main reason why I want to venture into this err this thing and see how is it like to actually err do this err and err you know just err make this err count as much as and to make this count lah basically then that's my main thing about it


so actually before before we go into this err I want to know err, err what job do you do dad like you didn't even tell me you don't talk talk about that


err sorry so you err you asking me as in anything related to the like data analytics


err actually data analytics I'm not really that sure but actually I have had my fair share of experience in data analytics because I did take err programming err R programming so, err I actually did take that and err but actually I don't really really err enjoy err programming or looking through the data side I mean I know it's the next in thing I know that that's what


you know probably is going to be the most highest paying job right now but I just don't find myself err having that sort of interest in that because, it's not something that I I love doing especially that that's the first that two two or three months that I was I was actually err in the course during my err everyday err my lessons every single day and the building up the exam itself


it was actually really draining on my part because I just feel like it's not what I want to do for the rest of my life because before this also I used to be


err I'm I'm on the phone with <tamil>அடிப்பாங்க:adipanga</tamil> err customer's phone <tamil>அடிப்பாங்கஅவங்ககிட்டபேசணும்:adipanga avangakita pesanum</tamil> like <tamil>வந்துஎப்போகாசுதருவீங்கஅந்தமாதிரிகேட்கணும்:vandhu epo kaasu tharuveenga andha madhiri ketkanum</tamil> oh err so like what must keep chasing the clients lah when they want money so I and basically the people that were around me actually I was about to ask you this question also like how do you like your coworkers okay I'll answer for myself


I don't like my coworkers that were there during during the internship period because err I think maybe it's maybe it's like a it's a intern dilemma I don't know because you know you get you get made you get err made use of it's the system because you know you are new person there and you don't have anything much so err I they just throw a lot of stuff you know err and I was doing certain stuff I was working on a project and then someone actually claim to be


claim that that was that that was what they were working on when I actually did the most of it so you err I didn't want to step in and say anything because I'm actually a intern there and those people there that the person actually so called stole the idea for me was actually one of my superior so I can't be doing that with them what so


err I didn't do that so <tamil>கொஞ்சம்ஏமாற்றமாஇருந்துச்சு:konjam emtrama irunthuchu</tamil> but <tamil>வந்து:vandhu</tamil> ya so <tamil>அந்தமாதிரிவேலஎனக்குபிடிக்கலஅதேஇடத்துலஉக்காந்துட்டு:andha madhiri vela enaku pidikala adhe idathula ukkanthutu</tamil> nine to five job, like data or coding or finance side or sit down there I like the I like the whole idea of going out to meet customers to talk to them err make a sale or


that's why like what I said just now <tamil>அதனாலதான்நான்வந்துஇந்த:adhanalathan nan vandhu indha</tamil> job <tamil>குள்ளவந்தேன்இப்போ:kulla vandhen ipo</tamil> err meeting cause this part of this err part of this internship that I'm doing right now is actually to go to various hardware stores to make a sale


as a customer we can understand what does the customer really want err like what actually what my dad usually err what you actually said was that err when you go to a shop don't portray as the person then you want to make a sale as go with them and ask them what they want, tell them saying that I don't want to make a sale I want to be there I want to know what you want I want to do that so that was one very very good advice that I learnt from my father and that really really changed my approach to this thing so this is what made me love this job a bit more but it's not something that I want to do it every single time also I is I want to I'm actually or more of the kind I want to balance everything


I don't like you know because I don't like doing doing certain stuff too much so ya to answer your questions so I don't really like the data analytics course err or whatever so you just whatever you're doing right now I really can't relate much cause it's not something I want to do


okay err I get what you mean and <tamil>எனக்குபுரியுதுஎன்னசொல்லவரீங்கனு:enaku puriuthu enna solla vareenganu</tamil> okay before I go on I want to ask you actually I wanted to ask you one question so do you think that because of this COVID thing okay before this, I I don't know before this or not before this data data analytics was like another engineering course to me it just feel like oh coding programming computer program computer engineering that was my whole idea of it but ever since this COVID pandemic hit downsizing happen


people trying to cut costs so do you think that data analytics is that is that the reason why you think that <tamil>அதனாலதான்:adhanalathan</tamil> oh !aiyo! because <tamil>வந்து:vandhu</tamil> err err , err <tamil>இப்போவந்து:ipo vandhu</tamil> err we want to know like what you say lah we want to know err who is the best customer or we want to save time save costs cut costs this this and that correct so do you think that's the reason why data analytics right now is the very in thing


ya probably like what you said I mean ya


okay so that's what we are that's what we are trying to do now, that's what that's what we are trying to do now because that's what we are trying to do in the sense that they're trying to convert everyone to online customers so err the the the part about err


err but the thing is that there are traditional customers that don't want to change into the online online sector like as what I've told you before when I first join this company err they are just really very err , how to say they are very reluctant they they're very old school mentality and very traditional they have a very traditional person because basically because of the background of these customers and like the the tradition of this


err industry itself is a hardware stuff so you don't expect all the new people you don't expect all the young people to jump into this industry as well cause there's no that's not something you would expect this this industry is mainly for those that have been there for literally fifty sixty years


they this is their family this their root should be close also maybe maybe after maybe let's say once things change maybe runs err their kids take over the the the thing then maybe it might change but as for now in this current err era in this twenty first century, I don't really think that it's going to change much because there will still be people that want to approach do the traditional approach thing and so that's the reason why it's very very hard to convert these people into the online approach which is what err I'm tasked as a intern so <tamil>நாளைக்குவந்து:nalaiku vandhu</tamil> my boss <tamil>என்னசொல்றாங்கன்னா:enna solrangana</tamil>


data analytics <tamil>ரொம்பகூர்ந்துஉள்ளபோய்ட்டா:romba koornthu ulla poita</tamil> customer <tamil>போய்டும்:poidum</tamil> because <tamil>எல்லாமே:ellame</tamil> data <tamil>இருக்கு:irukku</tamil> so once once how to say ah once you have once you have the data


once you have the power of data once you have the power of all this online things right you will eventually settle for what is easier for you because honestly the reason why you are doing all this is because you want to cut cost you want to save time correct so you will you will obviously, is a human instinct is a human nature to find what's most relaxing and find the most easiest way out of things so if the reason why they jump into this data analytics course or data analytics job is because to cut cost and save time so


why would someone after doing all that go back to square one again and go to and go round and you know waste the customer and see everything again what's the point of that so that is the main problem that every hardware shop is facing right now because oh not not even only hardware shop, I'm talking about every traditional shop right now that is reluctant to change to online platform these are the main reason why


so I'm tasked with that and I'm also facing err a roadblock because I'm not able to get through them, ya so okay so I think you have something to say right okay


ya I I think what you said actually made a lot of sense okay maybe the part about ya like err having customer feedback and seeing how is it like I mean like a to gain so basically this will enhance the


customer relationship <tamil>சொல்லவரீங்கஅப்போ:solla vareenga apo</tamil> so <tamil>அதுஅதுபுரியுதுநீங்கஅதசொல்லும்போது:adhu adhu puriuthu neenga adha sollumpothu</tamil> err so you take fifty products the first part you said the first taking fifty products from there and put in put in the, online shop so that you know they can be profitable during this pandemic but let me just surprise you with this information that they are actually profitable during pandemic because when I talk to one of those hardware I went to make a sale at one of the place


they are still opening shop every single day nine to five PM every single day and they are still profitable even during this pandemic which is actually very very surprising because, like what I said these people are traditional and they've been there for fifty to sixty years so maybe <tamil>நீங்கசொல்லும்போதுநீங்கசொல்றதபார்க்கும்போது:neenga sollumpothu neenga solratha parkumpothu</tamil> maybe this could be effective for another industry let's say


maybe err clothing line or maybe or maybe it could be some other line this kind this kind of grab my thought so not anything right now but it can be it should be anything but, what I feel that maybe just maybe for this industry that I'm currently working in right now a hardware store where they sell like school drivers hammers


like err oh my god I can't even think right err screwdrivers hammers err saws or sandpaper or those literally those err hardware stuff hardware applications or or


so <tamil>அந்தமாதிரிஇருக்கும்போது:andha madhiri irukumpothu</tamil> it's very very hard for them to actually accept, changes around them and and like what and let me give it my point about them being profitable during this pandemic is because mainly these people have customers that are very


err err obligated to them their tradition customers that keep coming every single time so that's the reason why you literally you go to the shop you see them I I literally went to three or four shops that day like I think last week I went to three to four shops to make a sale, I have to wait I have to wait for so long because there were so many customers at the shop and every single time when I go there I have to this constantly wait every single time I literally was at bicycle shop for literally almost


two to three hours just to make err a five dollars sale I have to have to wait so have to wait cause the thing is that they have they have other customers for them customer relationship is key it's so so so important so, maybe the part about them changing into online is not really a good thing right now I feel personally that's that's my take on that because I feel like no matter how much you try to change them


they will change, probably you force them you do come down there eventually that these items they would be forced to change but the thing is that for how long will they even put on for maybe they might find another substitute, which is what we are afraid of losing ah so that's the reason why that we are still going going to go down because even and the thing is even right what my boss said


even if we change, and even if we try to implement changes the customer must make the effort to change if he or she isn't going to change if he or she isn't going to bulge to or even err even like you know consider making a change there's no point in us try to make the effort


and like you can try that's that's while it's basically one of my task to constantly go and push and push them but I'm just telling my boss I'm just telling her that it's not possible at least for now it's not possible let's just stick to what we have right now let's, further let's further go on that route first and see what else can we make changes on that so I suggest to her I suggested to her saying that okay how about


err we actually do a online catalogue, so now now when they don't have the catalogue correct they don't have like because you know I think I think IKEA or IKEA or how you pronounce it, they actually stop the physical catalogue from this year onwards sorry last year onwards sorry two zero two zero or is it this year I'm not sure but one of these year they stop the product the the


physical catalogue because they feel like they want to move to online catalogue so I used that as a thing and told her saying that, maybe instead of us going down the shop to show our catalogue through our iPad or why not we send them cause I'm sure they all have phones right they all have links to Google drive why not we create create a Google drive link


update our Google drive link sent that very link to them so every month if they need certain stuff and this the link will be sent them the link will send them to a page to Google drive and which we will be updating every single month, so I feel like that is one way that we can so called not say force them but this an and it's a alternative I mean eventually we are still going down to make a sale but this is this is for them to transition from the traditional approach to a online approach


so what you think of that the idea that actually I proposed


(hmm), okay <tamil>நீசொல்றது:nee solrathu</tamil> actually really really I mean err okay whatever you are saying actually is it makes sense ya it makes sense I mean some of them actually I've I have told you <tamil>பேசியிருக்கேன்:pesiruken</tamil> boss also <tamil>சொல்லிருக்கேன்:solliruken</tamil>


basically what you are trying to say is <tamil>இதுவந்து:idhu vandhu</tamil> err gather a larger a larger group of a larger group of audience so I understand what you are trying to say so basically I mean like err, you try to err try to give them opportunity to gain a larger target audience a larger market because err they can even now maybe ah like what you say ya maybe they communicating maybe on a on a daily basis like say they can care like two hundred people


three hundred people per day but with the online thing they can probably reach out to maybe a bit more no let's not let's not let's not err blow it blow it blow it out of err err err proportion let's make it err let's say five hundred people, additional two hundred people so I understand what you are trying to say but because maybe I just feel like err I mean the kind of sort of vibe that I get from the shop I mean it's a very different thing lah so


and the iPad <tamil>என்கைலஇருக்கும்அந்த:en kaila irukum andha</tamil> iPad <tamil>கையாளஎடுத்துட்டுஅவங்களே:kaiyala eduthutu avangale</tamil> product search <tamil>பண்ணிட்டுஅவங்களேபார்த்துட்டுபண்ணுவாங்கநான்வந்துசும்மாநிப்பேன்:pannitu avangale parthutu pannuvanga nan vandhu summa nippen</tamil> so


basically <tamil>அவங்கஏன்வந்து:avanga yen vandhu</tamil> <tamil>கேள்விகேக்குறதுக்குஎனாவந்து:kelvi kekurathuku yena vandhu</tamil> when they when they ask a question they must have a reply instantly, they want to they want a person there like right there for them to touch or whatever lah or just communicate lah basically so they want someone that's there so that's the whole idea of it lah basically that that that that's that's what they want


so err any it's just it's just it's just kind of err it's just kind of funny where where it's like err I'm not doing anything there but they just they just doing this so I when I when I went back to my office and I told my boss saying that I'm just there, not doing anything at all but they're just you know doing that but I just feel like this can all be avoided but ya I get the point but eventually ya it's the same thing so what I'm trying to say is that I feel err people is is is I feel like it's like err err like this this this whole thing that you can't teach old old dogs new tricks


I think that's very very true, to a certain extent at least because I feel like err so <tamil>ஐந்தில்வளையாததுஐம்பதில்வளையுமா:ainthil valayathathu aimbathil valayuma</tamil> that kind of thing so to say whatever I learn back in the primary school all this idioms all this english kind of make sense because you cannot teach people to change when this is how they've been throughout their entire period of their of their life lah basically


so there's ya so that's basically what I say it was that what what I say was maybe maybe there will be a time where, their children will take over or cousins or someone take over and they might implement that change maybe that's where the future of hardware shop will be because I feel like if I feel like definitely I can say this with a chest out that hardware shop would not go off at all


maybe, maybe the next hundred and fifty hundred who knows but I think at least for now they definitely need hardware shop because, err I don't think you going to trust everything online because this kind of things you have to touch and feel it you need to go down the hardware shop to buy cause I feel like you will okay would you okay err let me ask you question you can answer this would you order a screwdriver online


okay so means what you are trying to say is that basically you need a customer that actually has succeeded in this thinking but that's what we are working on, cause I I there's actually one customer one customer <tamil>இருக்காங்க:irukanga</tamil> he's err he's from india he's a customer from india and actually he has a store here at #jalan besar# like so oh when I when we went there when I when I went there so he's very comfortable with comfortable with me lah because we are fellow indian so he see he can


err and that's that's another thing when you say that oh I don't want to see Kumar I don't want see this I feel that there's actually I experience that one thing but I'll tell you I'll tell you I'll talk to you about that later so okay let me get back to my point so what I'm trying to say is that, I feel like we are working on a particular customer that actually is err err very very keen on making a change so


yes I get I get the idea of like oh look at look at this customer so basically let's say if this customer eventually did err means managing to convert into online thing and he or she manages to do this, and then ya obviously I can we can use the person as an example as a as a as a role model thing like oh look at the customer err he's actually doing so much better now he's I mean he can


get a real err okay okay basically you can gather more err target audience and basically you can reach out to more people also but we haven't reached that level yet but we are working on it so that's what we are trying I'm trying to tell you lah cause ya we have obviously thought we always we have obviously, thought of that alternative also so we just working on it lah right now so to get back to the thing about not wanting to see one's face actually


err I basically experience this because actually my fellow salesmen before that there was I was under training err this guy is actually his name is kevin so he's actually a really really good salesman where err basically goes my point was he's a very engaging person so when I when he left the job to me to do it so I went to particular shop


err <tamil>சொல்லனும்னாஇந்தமூஞ்சிஎனக்குபிடிக்கலஅந்தமாதிரி:sollanumna indha moonji enaku pidikala andha madhiri</tamil> so err <tamil>அவங்ககிட்டபொய்பேசும்போதுஒண்ணுமேபுரியமாட்டேங்குதுஒன்னுமேவரமாட்டேங்குது:avangakita poi pesumpothu onnume puria matenguthu onnume varamatenguthu</tamil> so


because actually I have to wait cause basically what I was try trying to say for them customers are very important so even if you go and make a sale if the customers there we do have to wait so I just wait I just wait even though even though there's no customers I think I just waited, I never approach them I just waited for them to come to me and say okay so what do you want now so I don't want to make it seem that I want something for you that's why I'm coming ya I just want to make it very comfortable for them so


ya I experienced that then I went to talk to my boss about it I told her this and I say she says that oh okay that's interesting so we I never really had it before so I'm like oh okay ya so ya she ask me she never expect this to happen to me, so when I told her then she then I just told her see that ya because you see like this is what I don't want err because she was asking me okay what if once I'm out of this company


what if no one it's actually I'm I'm not on full time basis I'm on internship err so can do it on a part time basis she ask me this question I said, no probably not because I feel like this this will be very very tough for the not only for them as customer but for the part timer as well because this part timers have no history


no no background knowledge of what's the industry unless they have a thorough err backing from the company itself to like you know, err they go through the whole programme of this they what is it about you know who the customers are what the customers buy everything okay fine then okay but I feel that that's going to be very tough on people because I just don't want anyone to go through what I actually went through because


even though it's nothing much they never really abuse me or anything that's the way they treated him was very different cause I I've gotten into the same shop with the with my friend with the sales with a friend of mine, I have seen how they were with him versus how when I went down there so, basically to avoid all these things yes obviously online thing with so much so much more beautiful because honestly online thing would be so much more beautiful that's the that's the perfect picture that I can paint lah for the for anything any given scenario


so I see I see that it's not a good thing but you can try you can venture it ah because I feel like <tamil>வந்து:vandhu</tamil> err currently <tamil>வந்து:vandhu</tamil> err she's paying me about like four hundred five hundred per month, if you go do for a part time basis now <tamil>வந்து:vandhu</tamil> she can give maybe shop Ku <tamil>போகும்போது:pogumpothu</tamil> oh ten dollars per shop you pay a part timer mah you go there make a sale


so <tamil>நான்</tamil> I I suggested lah go to shop make a once the person make the sale of the shop because basically if you think about it ah this is really not a sale, <tamil>நான்வந்து:nan vandhu</tamil> I'm a part timer I'm going into a shop that's already a existing customer just to top up orders, I don't think there's much of job needed what so I I can foresee that maybe the part timers can go to the existing shops so just to make a err a sale oh no no to make this you can order then you can pay them <tamil>பத்து:paththu</tamil> or <tamil>பதினைஞ்சி:pathinanji</tamil> per shop they go


so that's the current task I'm working on so after this this online thing which kind of like sort of failed and sort of like we just trying to do the err what I talking about the send them the Google drive link, there's there's there's this thing I came up with lah so now onto this err coming out with this err SOP for this part timers the that are going to come to this err err job after when I'm out so that's what I'm currently working on right now


so ya so basically there's that's what I'm currently doing right now and it's just like err it's a bit of a stand still with the with the part where I'm actually going to the customer and talk to them so I'm not doing that right now, because I feel like after that after that incident then I feel like maybe I just want to take a step back


maybe I'll work on a new customer, I was trying to do that also, cause you know you know when we build our house we have actually this err err err hardware shops also so I actually went to talk to one of them I went to talk to one of them I actually I talk to them about the the products that they have, and I I talk to them about my products that I'm going to sell so err which actually turned out to be a good thing because they are actually they are actually quite interested so I that's that's why I was like okay can let me show you the product so I'm actually did show the product so I feel like maybe


as a intern maybe we should venture into a new customer group instead of having the old one I mean the old one we can give to the salesperson there cause they've been there for so many years what they know them so maybe we can talk to the new people, and then if we do a good job then okay maybe the the old salesperson can tackle that so I mean as a salesperson yourself right have you had such similar experiences also cause I know that you also did a couple of sales back them during like during my time


what do you mean happening in my life lah like what


because having this this err this COVID thing I mean obviously it took a toll on everyone what I mean I feel like for really for a couple of months never see your friends and everything so you know we just err we just


hanging around because it's been it's been way honestly speaking very tiring because for everyone and like you know err haven't meet my friends in a long time so, they just we just constantly try to meet up I mean especially like recently only I've been meeting up quite often with my friends and all so, err ya ya that's that's basically and then now that I'm trying to err


you know look in certain times with my friends and you know because err for me I I just feel like there's always a need there there's always a need for balance in life you need to always like you know balance out certain things you can't just be a workaholic everything lah cause I mean during the COVID I usually work, I did my Grab so I didn't really bother about anything or anything else so I just feel like I had to just focus on what is important right now which is my friends and family lah so so that's basically what I'm trying to do now I mean there's obviously I can't please everyone


cause I just feel like that day or so when I came back home my mum was like err she was very upset because I went out for drink, and she wasn't happy about that and err I feel like it's it's it's it's kind of a norm it's quite it's very normal these days to err I mean drink it's fine lah I I don't find that what's the big problem about it because I'm


like what I like what I told her it's perfectly fine it's okay and it's like ya I mean I mean come on I mean I I feel like I feel like even in your time also I feel like you also had a couple of drinks and it's just to to socialise with, your friend so that's that's basically what I'm doing right now so just to just to socialise and stuff like that I'm not trying I'm not trying I'm not trying to blame you or try to portray that oh my father is doing so I'm doing it's not that kind of thing it just that


I'm just trying to say that there's nothing wrong cause you look how you turn out to be you turn out to be fine right you didn't turn out didn't turn out to be like some like that's what I'm trying to say so it's fine that someone is doing it so so ya getting back to topic so err this is what we were doing now I'm just, err working out and err you know playing playing playing soccer that's what I'm doing and there's working out then going out with friends play FIFA watching football games


that's how it's been lah so what else


uh I mean <tamil>நீசொன்னதுக்காக:nee sonnathukaga</tamil> I mean it's it's true lah whatever the whatever whatever you say actually ya I mean it's it's true lah we cannot portray as two different two different person but


I don't think I'm portraying as a two different person I think I'm just portraying as a person that can actually show that what you can actually do for someone you actually care for the person but it's usually honestly it's not only for one person I'm doing it for everyone that I actually err even my friends even let's say if we go out and we eat


I don't know why it's just it's just like err is is not my nature to actually asked for people with money where I I I just I feel like it's not my I I just feel okay I know err my other friends my other friends they like if you treat you just eat you go out eat even to the cent, they will ask you have to to transfer back I've had friends like that so but for me it's like let's say we go out eat so let's say it was fifty dollars as in four of us go out eat I will just ask us fifty divided by four ah err okay lah ten dollar each can already lah


so I will absorb the remaining err I absorb the remaining cause I just feel like I I don't think I can't asking I can't be asking them eh can you transfer me, err twelve fifty exactly that I I just you know and somemore if like that's that's one thing and another thing is that even if you don't have to transfer back even the <tamil>பத்து:paththu</tamil> right I won't even go and ask them because I just feel like I feel like it's like basic


courtesy lah to at least like if I say already it's up to you whether to transfer or not lah cause then I will know but the thing is that I will usually still go back err this my nature I just cannot like I don't think I'm sort of character like this can go back and ask, the money back, and err (ppc) I know you will not I can see from I can see from your facial features that you don't really appreciate you don't really err see that's the correct thing to do I know it's just the price not the correct thing to do but I just feel like


maybe that's not the best I I okay actually I also really don't know I don't know lah like that because I just feel like it's just something that I am that's my character, and I feel like everyone knows that's my character but I don't think you know it's making use of the character it's just that they know that oh Kumar is the kind of person that is that's


ya he's not really money minded lah actually I do I do want to be the sort of person that oh my god Kumar you look like, you like <tamil>இப்டிஇருக்கான்:ipdi irukan</tamil> I don't want to be the kind of person it's just like oh Kumar he very chill lah it's okay lah he's not really a money minded he's okay what ah so


Kumar <tamil>வந்து:vandhu</tamil> you know <tamil>அப்பாவந்துகாடுவெட்றாங்க:appa vandhu kaadu veturanga</tamil> so Kumar Kumar so Kumar <tamil>இதெல்லாம்அவங்கபார்க்கும்போதுஅவங்கநினைப்பாங்க:idhellam avanga parkumpothu avanga nenaipanga</tamil> okay


okay <tamil>அவங்கதான்எல்லோரும்கஷ்டப்படறாங்க:avangathan ellorum kastapadranga</tamil> err even err Bala or Rama <tamil>ஆனாநம்மவேறகாசுவேற:aana namma vera kaasu vera</tamil> err


okay so <tamil>அதுவந்துநீவந்துஉன்னுடையதனித்துவத்தநீவந்துநீபதிவுசெய்ற:adhu vandhu nee vandhu unnudaya thanithuvatha nee vandhu pathivu seira</tamil> I mean this is <tamil>பதிவுசெய்றஎன்னனா:pathivu seira ennana</tamil> there's no individuality you


okay actually <tamil>நான்வந்து:nan vandhu</tamil> last time <tamil>சொன்னேங்களாஇப்போ:sonnengala ipo</tamil> err girlfriend err Bala everywhere <tamil>சாப்பிட்றதுக்கு:sapdrathuku</tamil> so who paid the bill first


okay so means like means you eventually you all split then you all decide so means there's there's a basic understanding that you actually will split then you all give the money to each everyone


mainly I just going to treat you all like mature adults I feel because I feel like err maybe as of now when we I mean my age group maybe with my friend circle lah I won't say my age group because, I know that people of other age groups also they do the same thing but if at least my friend circle it just that we don't really maybe we err okay see cause we are still studying


maybe one or two are just working around full time so maybe the ones that are working full time also even like say for example I know my one of my friend he's working the army and he's actually ya he's not really money minded he's he's actually very very like very cool very chill lah but also, I feel like it's coming of the character I feel I feel like I don't think it's because the job that you are in ya I don't even think because of the the the how much money you have or how much money you don't I feel it's the character of the person he's like I know the people that are aren't even working


they're just studying but very very money minded but people that are actually working and earning so much of money like say my army friend he's not money minded if you want money okay I'll give money if you we go eat split


obviously you link towards the person that is more relax more chill because you don't know when will it be a time where you will be in a very tough situation where you don't know


how to react to the person giving you pressure like cause I have had people that actually kind of rant last time I actually I forgot to payWave someone the person actually ask me eh Kumar what the hell why you never come and, err give me money err I ask you so many times then I'm like oh my god sorry so <tamil>அந்தமாதிரிஆளுங்கஇருக்கும்போது:andha madhiri alunga irukumpothu</tamil> <tamil>ஒருமாதிரிஒரு:oru madhiri oru</tamil> friction <tamil>வரும்:varum</tamil> you get <tamil>புரியுதா:puriutha</tamil> so <tamil>அந்தமாதிரி:andha madhiri</tamil> friction <tamil>வரும்போது:varumpothu</tamil> then it's very hard to build a relationship


whereas with someone else, but <tamil>நானேவந்துஎப்படிபன்றேனா:nane vandhu epdi panrena</tamil> it's like I feel like !wah! it's a very very open relationship means they know that I never pay but they still okay with it but then I go and pay they like okay can bro thanks so it's very relaxed very calm I will really honestly go for that lah that's how I would want to be so I'm like that


so and I feel like the thing about when you say that oh how about if I portrayed image for example portraying I err what portray I feel like it's because of you, because of because of our luxury life that I'm living right now because I feel like, condominium everyone will be like oh my god !wah! condo because even that day when I met my friend when we went out err one of my army friend I told you I met two days ago when I met him he was like eh !wah!


!wah! you live in you live in Bedok reservoir right then I was like ya ya bro right then he say oh !wah! I want to live in the archipelago condominiums sia so nice then I'm like you mean archipelago is it then he say ya ya archipelago he said, then I just took him come over I just show bro I I live here then he said !wow! bro archipelago then he shook my hand he was like bro very rich ah then I'm like then I'm like [dey] that's nothing like that I'm not rich at all I mean I just like


we are actually barely surviving it's just that but I mean you will always we all have our own problems what so I just feel like and I was telling all the problems in the condo lah got so many problem this and that, got so many issue then he say !wah! really ah but see the the portray image that we portrayed and like got a car I feel like we are very blessed lah with so many thing so <tamil>இந்தமாதிரிஒரு:indha madhiri oru</tamil> image ah portray <tamil>பண்ணும்போது:pannumpothu</tamil> obviously people will think that !wah! Kumar well to do what


okay then don't


hi err my name is Saruraja err yes I'm here to discuss and talk and converse with my son


okay so so COVID has given us a new perspective to our life err in the past we've been going to office and then probably travelling everything taking for granted err maybe missing my family most of the time


err so COVID has put me into a spot err where right now err whatever I'm doing err which is err my err err what you call err consulting work now I have to do it err online with my customers are all over the world, oh so this has given me a different err context because now I have err more time to spend with my family err with my my son and also my grand daughter and my wife


so that's one of the err I would say I mean err for a new perspective it given to me err secondly is that of course err overall I've seen that err COVID has given err another, err problem to some of my colleagues because they have err lost their jobs err they have move on to you know do err maybe have another job also but err hunting for job is quite is becoming a very a severe problem so err we're not sure how the situation will improve err that is where we are right now


so err !hey! Kumar I mean so now as you are going to a new workplace err and you also start to work I believe you know in your new job or as a intern and how do you err see COVID in your work life


okay err so before I just jump into the err into the err adult role I'm doing just want to point out one thing of course err err of course you mentioned about Grab drivers and err they're


doing things and the err and the you know and they're making money but of course this will you as you know it's will be a temporary kind of thing because once err err when people err start going out and they have err going to restaurants


so back to the question <tamil>நான்வந்து:nan vandhu</tamil> what I'm doing so I'm actually is a I'm a consultant in a company called SAP so I'm err actually err doing the what you call err count err promoting the product, in my company err which is err we call it err intelligent err VR intelligent products so that means it's an analytic product <tamil>சொல்வாங்க:solvanga</tamil> analytic product <tamil>ஒரு:oru</tamil> you know err company lah <tamil>இருந்துஇன்னொரு:irunthu innoru</tamil> company


ya so I want to add one thing so is is you can err you can actually relate to the what you're doing right now so for example you mentioned that err you know in your


in your work right you will be you will be actually looking at all the products that you are trying to sell right now you have hundred over products with thousand over products you putting on the website and doing it now don't you know don't you want to let the management know out of this one thousand products that you are putting it everyday every single day every single night