Accessibility statementSkip to main content Democracy Dies in Darkness Sign in Advertisement clockThis article was published more than **7 years ago** Democracy Dies in Darkness fact checkerAboutArchive fact checkerAboutArchive # Are 80 percent or 0.1 percent of the 9th Circuit Court’s decisions overturned? (Carlos Barria/Reuters) ![\\"\\"](\\" apps/imrs.php?src= authors/washpost/c2d68e88-b854-4336-a57e-e89bdb4783c9.png&h=196&w=196\\"/) Analysis by Michelle Ye Hee Lee March 21, 2017 at 3:00 a.m. EDT “Part of the much-overturned 9th Circuit Court … that 9th Circuit — you have to see. Take a look at how many times they have been overturned with their terrible decisions.”— President Trump, remarks at a rally in Tennessee, March 15, 2017 “In fact, we had to go quicker than we thought because of the bad decision we received from a circuit that has been overturned at a record number. I have heard 80 percent.”— Trump, news conference, Feb. 16, 2017 “Of course, none of what the president has charged about the 9th Circuit is true. The 9th Circuit is as well organized as any in the country. Of the very few 9th Circuit cases the Supreme Court takes up, a significant portion are overturned, but that’s true for every circuit, several of which are overturned at a higher rate than the 9th Circuit. And overall, less than one-tenth of 1 percent of 9th Circuit decisions are overturned by the Supreme Court.”— House Judiciary Committee’s ranking Democratic member John Conyers Jr. (Mich.), opening remarks during House hearing, March 16, 2017 Advertisement Story continues below advertisement One measure of an appeals court’s record is the rate at which its decisions are reversed by the Supreme Court. After the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit ruled against his original executive order on immigration, President Trump has criticized the court as a rogue one with an excessively high 80 percent reversal rate. ✅ Follow Fact-checking politicians Follow But it’s more complex than that. The 9th Circuit is unique in its structure, which is reflected in its record of overturned cases. (More on that below.) During a recent House committee hearing, ranking Democrat John Conyers Jr. (Mich.) said “less than one-tenth of 1 percent” of the circuit court’s decisions are overturned by the Supreme Court. Story continues below advertisement So which is it: 80 percent or one-tenth of 1 percent? We checked out the facts and found it’s a denominator game. ### The Facts First, some important caveats. Advertisement Each court’s reversal rate changes every year, so it’s easy to cherry-pick data from different years to support your case. And looking at just the raw numbers is not that helpful. For example, in the 2014-2015 term, four courts had 100 percent of their cases reversed, but the raw numbers were small (one case for the 2nd Circuit, three for the 3rd Circuit, three for the 7th Circuit and five for the 11th Circuit). The court with the second-highest reversal rate was the 8th Circuit, with seven of eight cases reversed. The 9th Circuit had six of 10 cases reversed. Story continues below advertisement Most cases reviewed by the Supreme Court get reversed, so the number or rate of reversals is not necessarily reflective of the court’s performance. While the Supreme Court weighs different factors in granting review of an appellate court’s decision, “the most important influence on whether Supreme Court review is granted is the existence of a conflict among different circuits over how to interpret a section of a federal statute or a constitutional provision,” according to SCOTUSblog. And the Supreme Court reviews only a small percentage of cases per year from each circuit. From 1999 through 2008, the Supreme Court reviewed an average of 64 cases per year, which was about 0.106 percent of all decisions by federal courts of appeals, according to a 2010 analysis by the American Bar Association. Advertisement Now, to the 9th Circuit’s numbers. Story continues below advertisement Since John G. Roberts Jr. became chief justice in 2005, the 9th Circuit court has not set a “record” for reversals. The 9th Circuit’s reversal rate was usually higher than the average in a given term, but not always. And since 2005, the 9th Circuit has not had the highest reversal rate (100 percent) in any term. In the 2014-2015 term, the 9th Circuit’s reversal rate was about 60 percent, below the average rate of 72 percent. In the 2015-2016 term, the latest year of data available, the 9th Circuit court’s reversal rate was 80 percent, and the average rate was 67 percent. This is the figure that Trump cites. But the 80 percent figure represents a small fraction of the cases that the 9th Circuit hears in a given term — roughly one-tenth of 1 percent. This is the figure that Conyers cites. Advertisement Story continues below advertisement The Supreme Court reviewed less than 0.1 percent of cases terminated in the 9th Circuit in 2015, according to an analysis by EmpiricalSCOTUS.com. But that is not unique. The highest review rate of terminated cases that year was approximately 0.3 percent, for the 10th Circuit and the D.C. Circuit, according to the analysis. The raw number of reversals by the 9th Circuit is high because the circuit is larger than many other circuits. It covers most of the western states, Hawaii, Alaska, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands. It’s so big that lawmakers are proposing to split up its jurisdiction and create a another appeals court. Still, the number of 9th Circuit cases on the docket is proportionate to the size of the circuit’s caseload. Since 2005, the 9th Circuit comprised about 20 percent of the Supreme Court’s docket. In 2015-2016, the share of cases commenced or terminated by the 9th Circuit was roughly 20 percent (about 12,000 out of about 60,000). “Reversal rates have nothing to do with circuit administrative performance,” said Sidney R. Thomas, chief judge for the 9th Circuit, in a March 16 written testimony to Congress. “The question of how a court would decide the merits of a handful of cases is not reflective of court administration. It is not a proper measure, under any circumstances, of whether a circuit should be structurally divided.” Advertisement Story continues below advertisement The White House did not respond to our request for comment. A spokeswoman for Conyers said: “Mr Conyers pointed out that only 1/10 of 1 percent of cases from the 9th Circuit are reversed in order to show that you cannot draw a reasonable conclusion about how well a court is functioning by comparing the handful of cases that ever reach the Supreme Court since it is such a small percentage of the overall docket. This would be true of any Circuit.” ### The Pinocchio Test Although the reversal rate is one way to measure a court’s record, using figures such as 80 percent or one-tenth of 1 percent does not add much to the debate. The 9th Circuit is not the most overturned court by the annual reversal rate. It does have a high raw number of reversals or number of cases on the Supreme Court docket. But it also reviews more cases than other circuits, is larger than other circuits and terminates far more cases than other circuits. Advertisement Story continues below advertisement Generally, politicians citing accurate statistics that lack context qualify for at least Two Pinocchios. Conyers provides more context than Trump does by noting that several other circuits are overturned at a higher rate than the 9th Circuit. Still, the usage of the one-tenth of 1 percent figure is not very helpful. The Supreme Court already reviews a small percentage of cases every year, so the number of reversals will reflect a tiny portion of the circuit court’s total number of cases per year. Trump ventures into Three- to Four-Pinocchio territory when he says the 9th Circuit has been “overturned at a record number.” But recently, he has said more generally that the 9th Circuit has a high rate of reversal. We’ll award Two Pinocchios to both Trump and Conyers for their use of the different reversal rates, which only give one side of the story. ### Two Pinocchios (About our rating scale) Advertisement Story continues below advertisement Send us facts to check by filling out this form Keep tabs on Trump’s promises with our Trump Promise Tracker Sign up for The Fact Checker weekly newsletter Share the Facts Washington Post ![\\"Washington](\\" facts/logos/washington_post_logo.png\\"/) 3 6 ![\\"Washington](\\" facts/rating_images/washpo/washpo_pinnochios_2.png\\") Washington Post Rating: Two Pinocchios “Part of the much overturned 9th Circuit Court … that 9th Circuit — you have to see. Take a look at how many times they have been overturned with their terrible decisions.” Donald Trump President of the United States ![](\\" Opinion/Images/518238610-1267.jpg\\") during a rally in Tennessee Wednesday, March 15, 2017 03/15/2017 Read More info Share the Facts Washington Post ![\\"Washington](\\" facts/logos/washington_post_logo.png\\"/) 3 6 ![\\"Washington](\\" facts/rating_images/washpo/washpo_pinnochios_2.png\\") Washington Post Rating: Two Pinocchios \"Overall less than one-tenth of one percent of 9th Circuit decisions are overturned by the Supreme Court.” John Conyers, Jr. House Judiciary Committee Ranking Member (D-Mich.) ![](\\" head-shot-large-169.jpeg\\") opening remarks during House hearing Thursday, March 16, 2017 03/16/2017 Read More info Share ![\\"\\"](\\"/dr/resources/images/generic-newsletter-signup.png\\") ![\\"\\"](\\"/dr/resources/images/generic-newsletter-signup.png\\") Sign up Advertisement Advertisement live updatespolitics![\\"\\"](\\" apps/imrs.php?src= washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/34GPOUTQBGPJDTBZOSU6XT4H5M.JPG&w=767\\")3:42 PM #### Vance refuses to say Trump lost in 2020, sparking debate’s biggest clash 3:38 PMIn debate, Walz struggles to answer question on his time in Hong Kong 3:31 PMVance peddles Trump agenda in softer tones, misleading ways during debate 3:20 PMWho won the Vance-Walz VP debate? 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Overall less than onetenth of one percent of 9th Circuit decisions are overturned by the Supreme Court