Mitsusuke AKAMATSU who was treated as the greatest patriarch of bakufu at that time had gotten on the wrong side of Yoshinori, and in 1437, there was a rumor circulating that his territoies in the provinces of Harima and Mimasaka were going to be confiscated.
このころ幕府の最長老格となっていた赤松満祐は、義教に疎まれる様になっており、永享9年（1437年）には播磨国、美作国の所領を没収されるとの噂が流れている。