Having offended Sottakusai, he was barred from Omotesenke at one point and subsequently worked exclusively for Urasenke (the house of Urasen) (details surrounding this circumstance remain unknown.)
啐斎の機嫌を損ね、一時表千家出入りを禁じられ、その後は裏千家のみの御用を務める（詳しい理由は不明）。