Also, it is said to have been a factor, which Tamura lost Shuei's trust when he asked Karigane, five dan, finishing their match in a jigo (drawn match) in the commemoration of his promotion to seven dan (in 1905) was revealed from the kifu (record of a game of go, shogi, chess, etc.).
また田村が七段昇段記念の碁(1905年)で、相手の雁金五段に持碁にするように申し入れた件を棋譜から見破られたことも、田村が信用を失う一因とされる。