There they met a strange old woman, who told them that Taketoki would become the lord of Kita no Tachi and later that of Kumonosu-jo Castle, and that Yoshiaki would become the general of the First Fort, and his son would be later the lord of Kumonosu-jo Castle.
そこで二人は奇妙な老婆と出会い、武時は北の館の主、そして蜘蛛巣城の城主になることを、義明は一の砦の大将となり、やがて子が蜘蛛巣城の城主になることを告げられる。