In 1837, after her husband Ienari retired as Ogosho (leading figure) and moved their quarters to Nishinomaru, she moved along with him and was called "Omidaisama."
天保8年（1837年）、夫・家斉が隠退して大御所となって西の丸に移ると茂姫も西の丸に移り、「大御台様」と称せられるようになる。