Others believe that far from wars and chaos in Kyo, he spent the last years of his life in Saigoku (western part of Japan (esp. Kyushu, but ranging as far east as Kinki) with the support of the Ouchi clan as one of his sponsors.
京の戦乱を避けて、後援者でもあった大内氏を頼り西国で晩年を過ごしたとも考えられている。