It is said that the creativity was stronger in tea and garden of Oribe and Enshu than in those of Rikyu, who tried to incorporate even his intention in naturalness, while Oribe's intention was pushed out on the surface in view-emphasized Chatei, where large steppingstones and Tatamiishi stone (tatami rocks) were put, but something unusual custom in the nature was sought.
織部や遠州の茶や庭園は利休のそれに比べると作意が強いといわれ、利休が作意をも自然らしさの中に含みこもうとしたのに対し、織部の鑑賞を重視した茶庭には、作意が表面に押し出され、飛石や畳石を打つときは大ぶりなもの、自然にあまり見られない異風なものを探し求めたとされる。