When Zenshu UESUGI, former kanrei of Kanto (a deputy to the shogun in the Kanto region) attacked Mochiuji ASHIKAGA (a warlord in Kamakura) in the War of Zenshu UESUGI, these clans supported Zenshu or maintained a neutral stance, ignoring Yoshimochi's order to put down Zenshu.
これらの家々は鎌倉公方足利持氏が元関東管領上杉禅秀に攻められた上杉禅秀の乱において、義持の禅秀討伐令を無視して禅秀を支援し、あるいは中立的態度を取った。