Around 1939 (at the age of 59), he discussed the world politics with Jiro SHIRASU and others, and concluded that the war between Germany and England and France would end in the victory of England and France.
1939年（昭和14年、59歳）頃には白洲次郎らと世界情勢を語り合い、ドイツと英仏間の戦争は、英仏の勝利との結論を得る。