He was very interested in Dutch things and often visited Nagasaki-ya (its famous master's name was Genemon) where kapitan (the curators of the Dutch Trading House of Nagasaki) were often staying.
オランダ物産についても興味を持ち、カピタン（オランダ商館長）が逗留した長崎屋源右衛門にしばしば訪問する。