When the first Yamamoto administration with the Rikken Seiyukai Party as the ruling party was involved in the Siemens scandal, the Sawakai and the Kenkyukai (within the House of Peers) led by Keigo KIYOURA decreased the navy budget by 70 million yen and entered a conflict with the House of Representatives that had suggested a budget decrease of only 30 million yen.
立憲政友会を与党とした第1次山本内閣がシーメンス事件のスキャンダルに見舞われた際には、茶話会は清浦奎吾率いる会派・研究会_(貴族院)とともに、海軍予算7,000万円減を成立させ、3,000万円減の衆議院と対立。