The two schools had a debate (Shinchi tairon) at the Edo-jo Castle, and Nichio was taken as the leader of the Fujufuse school, which was considered to rebel against the Bakufu and sentenced to be again exiled to Tsushima Island.
両者は江戸城にて対論した結果（身池対論）、日奥は、幕府に逆らう不受不施派の首謀者とされ、再度、対馬に流罪となった。