They first settled at Karasuma, Sanjobomon Alley, Kyoto, and his father was known to be a man of high virtue, but because he incurred the displeasure of the then Seii Taishogun Yoshimochi ASHIKAGA (for unknown reasons), he and his family moved to Tatsuno, Yamato Province, and served Daijo-in, Kofuku-ji Temple.
はじめ京都の三条坊門烏丸に居住し「有徳の者」と称されたが、征夷大将軍足利義持の勘気を受けて（詳細は不明）、父子ともに大和国立野に移り住み、興福寺大乗院に奉仕する。