She didn't have a close relationship with busho (Japanese military commander) of the East squad: in "Shinryuin Bonshun Nikki" ("Shunkyuki" diary) shows no record of meetings between Kodaiin (Nene) and Masanori and others during the period between her retreat from Osaka and a few years after the battle of Sekigahara.
東軍諸将との関係が薄い：『神龍院梵舜日記』（『舜旧記』）に高台院の大阪退去から関ヶ原の戦いの数年後まで高台院と正則らが面会したという記録が無い）。