Warriors from Shimotsuke province, Toshitsuna and Tadatsuna ASHIKAGA--father and son respectively--argued against this, insisting that 'If we use the horses of our mounted warriors to create a sort of raft, we will be able to cross the river.'
下野国の武士足利俊綱・足利忠綱父子はこれに反対し、「騎馬武者の馬筏で堤防を作れば渡河は可能」と主張した。