There existed otsukegaro (karo assigned directly by the shogun when the sons of the Tokugawa became daimyo) in the Tokugawa gosanke (three privileged branches of the Tokugawa family) such as the Owari Tokugawa family, the Kishu Tokugawa family and the Mito Tokugawa family.
徳川御三家である尾張徳川家、紀州徳川家、水戸徳川家には、御附家老というものが存在した。