There were also feudal lords, such as Yoshihide HATAKEYAMA of the Kawachi Hatakeyama clan (Soshu family), who opposed Hisanobu in Kawachi, and Yoshimura AKAMATSU of Harima.
大名としては河内で尚順と対立する河内畠山氏（総州家）の畠山義英や播磨の赤松義村がいる。