Nevertheless, it is said that he was awfully strong in actual fighting (it is said that he fought with no restraints, for example, by throwing the sand on the ground at his opponent and slashing or strangling him while heflinched from Toshizo's initial attack).
しかし、実戦では滅法強かったと言われている（斬り合いの時、足下の砂を相手にぶつけてひるんだ隙に斬り伏せたり首を絞めて絞殺したりなど、縦横無尽に戦闘をしていたという）。