However, the posts such as Sahyoe no jo (Hisama ASAI and Nobushige OYAMADA who made a wrong decision and had an unexpected miserable end), Saemon no kami (Yoshikage ASAKURA and Hideaki KOBAYAKAWA who disintegrated their family state) and Saemon no suke (Nobushige SANADA who fought against the Tokugawa Shogunate during the Battle of Osaka) were accepted without any bad impression and used by the Mito Tokugawa family, the Shonai Sakai family, the Kitsuregawa family (the Ashikaga family), the Kira family, and the Toyama family etc.
しかし、左兵衛尉（浅井久政・小山田信茂など、判断を誤り予期せぬ最期を遂げた）、左衛門督（朝倉義景・小早川秀秋など、家を潰した）、左衛門佐（真田信繁、大坂の陣で徳川幕府に敵対）などが特に悪い印象を持たれず、水戸徳川、庄内酒井、喜連川（足利）、吉良、遠山などに使用された。