On the contrary, because Yasaburo IKEDA and Kenkichi YAMAMOTO wrote in "Manyo Hyakka" (A Hundred Poems from the Manyo-shu) that these two poems might have been composed for entertainment during a banquet, their view has been accepted as the common view among academics.
しかし、池田弥三郎・山本健吉が『萬葉百歌』でこの2首を宴席での座興の歌ではないかと発言して以来、こちらの説も有力視され、学会では通説となっている。