In 1888, when he performed Genzo TAKEBE in the drama "Terakoya," he was asked how to play Tonami by his junior who played Genzo's wife Tonami and he asked him, 'Tonami is whose wife and what her husband Genzo's position?
明治21年(1888)に『寺子屋』の武部源蔵を勤めた際には、源蔵の女房戸浪を勤める後輩役者から戸浪のやり方を聞かれ、下記のように理論的に説明している（大阪朝日新聞1889年10月11日の記事）。