When Ieyasu abruptly asked his retainers at a party 'What is the most delicious food?,' each of the retainers answered; then, Ieyasu also asked Okaru who was attending by Ieyasu, she answered, 'It's salt.'
家康が家臣たちを集めた時に突然「一番美味い食べ物とは何か」と尋ねた際に、他の者たちがそれぞれが答えをならべたのが、家康がそばで控えていた梶にも尋ねると、「それは塩です」と答えた。