During the times of the subsequent Ryoryosai (the 9th iemoto), he was under the patronage of Harutomi TOKUGAWA, who was referred to as 'the lord of elegant pursuits' for his love for tasteful elegance.
後の9代了々斎の時には「数寄の殿様」と呼ばれ風雅を愛した徳川治宝の庇護を受けた。