In addition, he had exchanges with many kuge (court noble) and samurai such as Nobunaga ODA as a great scholar of gozan (Zen temples highly ranked by the government), but he did not want to come out, so that he had a secluded life as the chief priest of the Myochi-in Temple and tried to defend the Tenryu-ji Temple.
この他にも織田信長をはじめ、五山の碩学として多くの公家・武士らと交流したが、自身はあまり世に出るのを望まず、住職として妙智院で隠棲し、天竜寺の護持に務めた。