After that, the sword was handed over to Kyoshin, steward, KUMANO, MINAMOTO no Tameyoshi's son-in-law; however, he thought that; "I should not own a sword of successive generations of Genji" and thus handed it over to Gongen who had the mother of Genji.
その後源為義の娘婿である熊野別当教真に譲られるが、教信は「源氏重代の刀を自分が持つべきではない」と考え、源氏の母を持つ権現という人物に譲る。