Additionally, in the Ashikaga shogun family, court ranks such as Gon Dainagon (provisional major counselor), which were equivalent to kugyo, were the starting ranks, but in the late Muromachi period, conflict occurred within the Ashikaga shogun family over who would succeed as shogun, and the 13th Shogun, Yoshiteru ASHIKAGA, Yoshiaki ASHIKAGA, etc., became seii taishogun (literally, "great general who subdues the barbarians") as Jushiinoge, and there were cases where they were listed as kugyo while being Jushii, without becoming Shoshii.
また、足利将軍家においては代々、権大納言など公卿相当の位階を初叙としたが、室町時代後期には足利将軍家の中で後継将軍の跡目を巡る争いが起きるようらになり、13代将軍　足利義輝、足利義昭などが従四位下で征夷大将軍となり、正四位にならず従四位のまま公卿に列するような例も見られた。