According to 'A Record by Okado,' which was written by Shigetomo OKADO, a metsuke who had examined ASANO, KIRA answered, 'I haven't done anything to deserve his enmity, and takumi-no-kami (the head of the Bureau of Skilled Artisans) seems to have just become insane; besides, I'm so old that I don't remember why he could have hard feelings against me.'
浅野を取り調べた目付多門重共の「多門筆記」によると、吉良は｢拙者何の恨うけ候覚えこれ無く、全く内匠頭乱心と相見へ申し候。且つ老体の事ゆえ何を恨み申し候や万々覚えこれ無き由｣と答えている。