At the age of 23, he traveled to Mutsu out of the respect to Hikokuro TAKAYAMA, and on the way back, paid a call on Shihei HAYASHI (who was 53) (there are both theories that he could actually meet him and that not).
23歳の時、高山彦九郎を慕い陸奥を旅し、帰路に林子平（53歳）を訪ねた（会えたという説と会えなかったという説がある）。