According to "Kugenichiyokufushu," the diary of Gido Shushin, Yoshimitsu ASHIKAGA often talked on "Tenka" and "the people of Tenka" as the objects of his politics in the discussion with Gido.
また義堂周信の日記『空華日用工夫集』によれば、足利義満は義堂との議論において、しばしば自身の政の対象として「天下」「天下之人」を問題としている。