Around that period, he came to know Soho TOKUTOMI, presented by Jiro YUASA, and assisted Tokutomi's work at Minyu-sha and helped Tokutomi to launch a new newspaper Kokumin Shinbun.
その頃、湯浅治郎の紹介で徳富蘇峰と知り合い、民友社及び国民新聞の創刊の手伝いをする。