It is said that it was also used by Tsuna to kill an ogre ("Shuten Doji" - the leader of a group of local bandits) at the Rajo-mon Gate and also by TADA no Manju to kill the ogre of Mt. Togakushi ("Taiheiki", The Record of the Great Peace).
綱の羅城門の鬼退治（『酒呑童子』）や多田満仲の戸隠山の鬼退治（『太平記』）などにも使われたとされる。