After 1473, he made his residence at Shugyokuan in Kamikyo (Upper Kyoto), where court nobles, the shogun and the kanrei (shogunal deputy) lived, associating with Sanetaka SANJONISHI and other court nobles, as well as Masamoto HOSOKAWA and other high-ranking warriors of the Muromachi bakufu (Japanese feudal government headed by a shogun).
1473年（文明(日本)5年）以後、公家や将軍、管領の居住する上京（かみきょう）に種玉庵を結び、三条西実隆他の公家や細川政元他の室町幕府の上級武士と交わった。