Yoshimitsu was a Sho disciple of the late father of Tokiaki, Tokimoto, and inherited the secret Sho song, "Daijikichonyushi," but Tokiaki did not learn that song till then, as his father parted early from death.
義光は時秋の亡父時元の笙の弟子であり、時元より笙の秘伝の一曲『大食調入詞』を授けられていたが、幼くして父と死別した時秋はこの時までその曲を知らぬままでいた。