In addition, when Torii argued with Hidetatsu EGAWA, the Shogun's retainer and a member of the Shoshikai, over the survey method of Edo Bay, Torii was defeated by Egawa, who utilized Kazan WATANABE's connections and knowledge of Western science.
また、鳥居が、尚歯会員である幕臣江川英龍と江戸湾岸の測量手法を巡って争った際に、渡辺崋山の人脈と洋学による知識を借りた江川に敗れた。