In addition, when he was young, he led a life with Takechiyo MATSUDAIRA (later Ieyasu TOKUGAWA) who was sent to the Oda clan by the betrayal of Yasumitsu TODA, who was kachu (family-related communities existing during the late Muromachi and the Azuchi-Momoyama periods) of the Matsudaira clan, on the way to the territory of the Imagawa clan as a hostage.
また、今川氏へ人質として護送されていたが、松平氏家中の戸田康光の裏切りにより、織田氏に護送されてきた松平竹千代（後の徳川家康）と幼少期をともに過ごした。