It seems that in 1546 in the Aizu region, he imparted the way of appreciation of paintings to Moriuji ASHINA, and in 1550 he visited Odawara City and Kamakura City where he came into contact and communicated with artist monks.
天文(日本)15年（1546年）会津地方で蘆名盛氏に絵画の鑑賞法を授け、天文19年（1550年）には小田原市や鎌倉を訪れ、多くの名品に接し画僧達と交流したらしい。