Although he spent his time by traveling around Kyoto and Osaka for a while after his teacher Chikuden died, he got settled in Sakai at the age of 27 and founded Poetry Club Kosai Ginsha (poetry society).
天保6年（1835年）、師竹田が没した後しばらくは京阪を遊歴して過ごしていたが、27歳で堺に落ち着くと詩社咬菜吟社を設立。