His birth year is uncertain, but according to "Chikubu-jima Engi" (Legends of Chikubu Island) written in 1414 his name was recorded as kanjin (temple solicitation) person, and it is believed that he was the same age as Zeami or slightly younger than him by calculating.
生年未詳ではあるが、応永21年（1414年）の年紀を持つ『竹生島縁起』に勧進者として名が挙がり、逆算して世阿弥と同年代かあるいはやや年下と考えられる。