It is known that in the period of Northern and Southern Courts, there were Hon-za (literally, a genuine organization) (by Icchu and others) in Shirakawa of Kyoto (outside of the capital, Kyoto) and Shin-za (literally, a new organization) in Nara.
南北朝期には京都白河(洛外)の本座（一忠など）、奈良の新座（喜阿弥、増阿弥など）が知られていた。