In those days, the possible candidates of Shuei were Karigane and Yasuhisa TAMURA, who was five years older and a better player than Karigane; however, Shuei did not decide his successor because he did not like Tamura's character.
この頃、秀栄の後継候補は雁金と5歳年長の田村保寿で、実力は田村が上であったが、秀栄は田村の性格を嫌っており、跡目を決めることはなかった。