"Buko-den" lists another tale by Kakuzaemon; according to that, at a dinner party of a first lesson of Yokyoku (Noh song) of year, Hoki no Kami (Governor of Hoki Province) Shimizu asked Musashi "I heard that at the fight of some years ago with Seijuro YOSHIOKA, Yoshioka had beaten you first, was that a fact?" and Musashi denied it.
また『武公伝』に角左衛門の説話として、御謡初の夜の席での雑談で、志水伯耆から「先年吉岡清十郎ト仕合ノ節、吉岡先ヲ打タル由致風聞候ガ如何ニテ候哉」と、武蔵が先に清十郎から打たれたという話があるが本当か、と武蔵が訊ねられ武蔵が否定する話が記述されている。