According to the entry of November 22 described in a historical book entitled "Azuma Kagami" (The Mirror of the East), in the autumn, six months after the establishment of the council system, Tomomitsu YUKI recalled Yoritomo's glory in the office of the shogun's palace, saying, 'I should have entered into priesthood at that point of time as the proverb says that loyal subjects do not serve two masters. I feel as if we were walking on thin ice these days.'
合議制成立の半年後の秋、『吾妻鏡』10月25日条によると、将軍御所の詰め所で結城朝光がありし日の頼朝の思い出を語り「忠臣二君に仕えずというが、あの時出家すべきだった。今の世はなにやら薄氷を踏むような思いがする」と述べた。