For example, when Nobushige SANADA and so on proposed to march on to Kyoto, Harunaga ONO and so on, strongly opposed and finally it was decided to hole up in Osaka-jo Castle.
例えば真田信繁などが京都進撃を唱えても、大野治長などが頑強に反対し大坂城篭城に決するということもあった。