There is a legend that he was sent to work at a cotton wholesale store (called Kamedana, in comparison with the Ueno store which was called Tsurudana) in Edo Tenma-cho, a branch of Matsuzakaya Ueno store, but because he had problems with a woman there (there is also a rumor that he was forced into a sexual relationship by the head clerk) he returned to Hino; however, due to the existence of the Ninbetsu-cho described above, the reliability of such stories are now in doubt.
17歳の時には松坂屋上野店の支店である江戸伝馬町の木綿問屋（上野店の鶴店に対し、亀店（かめだな）と称された）に奉公に出され、そこで女性問題を起こして（番頭に衆道関係を迫られたとも言われている）日野に戻った、という伝説もあるが、前述の人別帳の存在から、現在ではその信憑性が疑問視されている。