Although Yoshiki was placed under house arrest, he managed to flee to Hojozu in Etchu and visited Naganobu JINBO, a retainer of Masanaga HATAKEYAMA, for support; accordingly, he was ridiculed as a puppet Shogun in Ecchu (Ecchu Kubo or Ecchu Gosho).
義材は幽閉されたが、側近らの手引きで越中国の放生津に下向し、畠山政長の家臣・神保長誠を頼ったため、越中公方（越中御所）と呼ばれた。