Chief court ladies and court ladies, who served for the Empress Teimei and the Empress Kojun, actually witnessed the conflict between two Empresses when the Crown Prince (later, the Emperor Showa) and his princess wife (later, the Empress Kojun) visited the Emperor Taisho in his place of medical treatment at the Hayama goyotei (Imperial property) a few months before the death of Emperor Taisho.
彼女たちに仕える女官長や女官が実際にその衝突を目撃したのは、大正天皇崩御の数ヶ月前、皇太子（昭和天皇）夫妻が療養先である葉山御用邸に見舞った際である。