Especially Taketsune HORIBE (bodyguard, 200 koku), who was known to be a great swordsman in Edo, Yoshitsugu TAKATA's descendant Gunbe TAKATA, who was known for his spear skills (bodyguard, 200 koku), and Magodayu OKUDA (magistrate for arms and armor as well as a bodyguard, 150 koku), who came from the same sword school as Horibe, strongly suggested killing Kira Kozuke no Suke.
特に剣豪として江戸で名を馳せていた堀部武庸（馬廻役200石）、高田吉次の子孫であり槍の達人の高田郡兵衛（馬廻役200石）、堀部の剣の同門である奥田孫太夫（武具奉行馬廻役150石）などが強硬に吉良上野介の首級をあげるべきと主張した。