However, the Saika group who joined the Bunroku-Keicho War was the pro-Nobunaga sect that had lost in the private war against the anti-Nobunaga sect and it was a sect of Magoichi SUZUKI (see the Suzuki clan) who was protected by Hideyoshi later, making it a weak rationale.
しかし、文禄・慶長の役に参加した雑賀衆は反信長派との抗争に敗れた親信長派で後に秀吉に保護された鈴木孫一（鈴木氏参照）らの一党である為、これも根拠となるには弱い。