The Tsutsui family also had a 'todate' (literally an outer mansion or suburban residence) in Hayashikoji (at present, Hayashikoji-cho, Nara City) near Kofuku-ji Temple.
筒井家は興福寺にほど近い林小路（現在の奈良市林小路町）にも外館（下屋敷）を構えていた。