Later, he helped his mother run the 'Senbonza' (later, Senbon Nikkatsu), a small theater she had acquired in the western suburbs of Kyoto and, from time to time, performed gidayu and acting.
その後、母親が洛西に「千本座」という小劇場（後の千本日活）を手に入れると、そこの経営を手伝いながら、時折高座で義太夫や芝居を披露した。