In response, Torasaburo persuaded them and carried through with his policy saying, 'a hundred straw rice bags will be gone after eating them up, but if they are used for education, they will turn into ten thousand or million rice bags.'
それに対し虎三郎は、「百俵の米も、食えばたちまちなくなるが、教育にあてれば明日の一万、百万俵となる」と諭し、自らの政策を押しきった。