He was also said to be in charge of Jito (manager and state steward) at Ouchi no sho manor (medieval manor belonging to the Kujo family) in Iga Province, and around since then, he had been described as 'Ouchi Kaja' (literally, Young man of Ouchi).
同国大内荘（九条家領の荘園）の地頭職を兼ねたともいわれ、このころから「大内冠者」と記されるようになる。