Is 5.7 a meme?

>>58057129 (OP)

In a pistol no, in a short barrel rifle yes

>>58057129 (OP)

it does exactly what its supposed to do

greater capacity, greater velocity, and when fired out of the P90 it can penetrate soft armor

this but flipped

>>58057129 (OP)

It fills a very specific niche, but fills it well

>>58057129 (OP)

Cut this down and make it a mp7 at home already im tired waiting for tommybuilt to make his clone

>>58057129 (OP)

absolutely not. fast, hi-cap pistols and subguns with mag compatibility is just a good idea

Like this?



https://www.recoilweb.com/poor-mans-mp7-rugers-lc-carbine-gets-the-chop-177402.html

>>58057129 (OP)

I'm tempted to get a 5.7 pistol (probably would go with the PSA Rock because its $600 for a pistol + 10 mags!) 

5.7 sounds like a great caliber for pistols because it's got low recoil but fairly damaging round because it's got very high chamber pressure. And the rounds are so small so you can fit a lot of them in a pistol mag.

>>58057129 (OP)

it;s aight

I don't think it's as much a meme as it was 20 years ago. What it needs is more manufacturers going in on it so the price per round can come down. If the price were to match 9mm per round I'd adopt it in a heart beat. But alas, it isn't there yet.

Kinda, yeah.

Yes, but it's pretty.

The trigger probably blows

I have the Ruger 5.7 pistol and it sucks

>>58057129 (OP)

It does what it was designed to do, ie give pistols and smgs the ability to penetrate body armor. Now why wasn't it adopted widely? One, the cold war ended, and two, the germans got pissy and threw a fit.

>>58057129 (OP)

for civilians, yes. Unless you can get some AP police-only bullshit, the whole purpose of the 5.7 is null.

>>58057129 (OP)

Isn’t tok basically everything it wants to be but not a failure?

5.7 fails FBI penetration tests, Tok over does so you use JHP that shred the target. It also has enough mass to go through steel and tempered glass 



Why don’t they just ditch it and make more tok guns?

Vanguard Black Fang, which is freely available, pierces armor BETTER than the restricted shit.

>>58057129 (OP)

Yeah, but it's the latest and greatest meme

>>58057129 (OP)

One of these issues by the International Wound Ballistics Association talks about the 5.7 out of the P90. Basically the terminal ballistics are inferior to a 9mm HP, even if the 5.7 bullet were to tumble all over the place. The only thing it's good at is penetrating soft body armor. If that's something you need, then it's a great round. If not, then it's a cool, but more expensive and less effective round, that will still stop anyone if you hit them in the right place.



Also there should be questions based on these IWBA publications next to the captcha to allow anyone to post in caliber debates.

https://thinlineweapons.com/IWBA/



>captcha: VHAT2

>>58057129 (OP)

No.



>Verification not required.

>>58057129 (OP)

I'm glad they made the rifle but wish it was like 2 pounds lighter and a takedown 



Maybe PSA will do it compatable with their Rock

I have all the 5.7 carbine that I need but I do appreciate the offer

>brass jews charge twice the price as 556 for what is essentially a necked down variant that literally costs less to make
