How much impact will the new tanks of Ukraine make given that drones and advanced anti-tank weapons are so common now?

I mean, Russian tanks don't seem to mattered much from what I can see.

>>58036349 (OP)

>How much impact will the new tanks of Ukraine make given that drones and advanced anti-tank weapons are so common now?

Here the thing. Unlike Ukraine, in Russia this kind of weapons aren't common.

>>58036349 (OP)

>man in the loop hardkill system

in the unlikely event that one of these things makes it to the front there will be a lot of cope after it gets turned inside out by a run of the mill ATGM

Strikers, Marders and Bradley will make much more difference.

UA has loads of infantry but they lacked armoured fire support and wartaxis.

Its a big force multiplier

So they have a better chance of surviving. How then will they be used? 

I just have a hard time imagining what it will look like in actual combat. I always think about tanks as fighting against other tanks and not against soldiers in trenches.

That is what I thought too. But they was so fixated on begging for tanks that it felt like something I missed.

Realistically speaking don't tanks enable Ukraine to punch through Russian lines? Wtf does Russia have that can counter a western tank??

>>58036349 (OP)

>Russian tanks don't seem to mattered much

The initial tank rush did actually take a lot of land, they probably wouldn't even have zaporizhia if they'd tried to do it with just trucks.

>>58036349 (OP)

Using tanks well can be complicated, they are very limited in their own detection ability while being extremely detectable.

At all levels of tank command you have got to understand your limitations and employ other units to help you where you are weak. 

They can really only excel on their own in extremely open and clutter free environments.



They are still useful because they are so lethal. Obviously they bring extremely potent and accurate fire, but they also bring sustainable heavy fire. The only thing that competes is attack helicopters, or niche things like AC130 but aircraft have their own limitations.

>Wtf does Russia have that can counter a western tank??

not a whole hell of a lot

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Daily reminder that just because you have anti tank weapons doesnt mean tanks are useless or somehow unnecessary in modern war. They might be more vulnerable than before in a lot of ways but without them we will be back to WWI trenches and marching into MG fire.

>>58036349 (OP)

>How much impact will the new tanks of Ukraine make given that drones and advanced anti-tank weapons are so common now?

ukraine was able to kick russias ass using outdated T-64BVs

leopard 2s would give a massive ability to concentrate force into a small point and bring the ability to break through and encircle russian lines
