If the Third Reich and Japan had launched a joint attack on the USSR from their respective sides, would the Axis have had a chance of winning?

>>14985547 (OP)

How many fucking threads need to be made about this topic asking the same three questions getting variations of the same three answers

>>14985547 (OP)

Most vital aid to the Soviets came from Iran to the Caspian and from the north sea. Japan's entire military capacity would be bled dry trying to maintain and defend any gained Siberian land, and unlike the west, the geography only becomes more defensible as you go in deeper from the east. Tieing up that many jap troops will also cause the failing China front to collapse even faster also no Jap leader would attack the Russians when they couldn't even subdue the chinks

>>14985547 (OP)

The japs fumbled the ball against the incredibly crappy pre-major reform 1939 Red Army that ate shit against Finland. Considering that, a single battle on the scale of Stalingrad or Kursk probably would have crippled the Japanese economy and, as the other anon said, also ruin what useless progress they had made in China.

>>14985547 (OP)

>Lost bad to the Soviets at Khalkhin Gol

>Struggling to take Chinese villages

Many people still don't realize Japan just wasn't at the same level as Germany or the USSR. Germany actually invaded along with Italy and Romania but no one remembers that. Japan was basically Italy tier in strength

>>14985547 (OP)

Apparently that was the biggest regret Hitler had in the Fuhrerbunker before his death; not involving Japan in Operation Barbarossa.

And it would be the only options that Hitler could have taken that would have had zero impact on the war effort against the Soviets at all. You do know why Japan invested so heavily on their navy right? Because they lacked all of the goods needed to be able to wage a modern war. Germany atleast had a fuck ton of coal and neighbors with metals and oil. Japan had nothing and only a miniscule amount that was known in Siberia and Indonesia. A japan that invaded the Soviets instead of spending its efforts to launch a massive surprise attack against Euro colonies is a Japan that loses even more badly that it did in OTL. The Jap leadership was aware of this too, a timeline where Hitler tries forcing the Japs hand is possibly a timeline where Japan tries to allign with the allies instead of even trying to please Germany. They’d fail but it would be preferable to equivalent of Mexico trying to conquer the US with vastly inferior troops, manpower, and industry against absolute dogshit geography that is the American South west and Eastern Siberia respectively

>>14985547 (OP)

no, barely any Siberian divisions actually took part in the Soviet counter attack, and its not like the USSR was going to actually split its forces evenly, all Japan would do is instead of getting btfo'd in the Pacific they would get btfo'd in China
