Will we ever see them go head to head?

>>57903090 (OP)

Why does America export the F-35, but not even it's closest allies can put a finger on the F-22?

Old relics and the cost of maintenance. The U.S. is producing the f-35 while not producing the f-22. As the f-22 gets older, it will be more expensive to maintain and not even worth exporting.

It's made with Americanium

because the F-22 is not a multirole like the F-35, it's a bona fide air supremacy frame first and foremost, and america isn't willing to potentially forfeit air supremacy to anyone, even its allies

>>57903090 (OP)

Unlikely because they are designed differently.

F35 has piss poor maneuverability and is designed with BVR in mind, hence the stealth stuff that supposedly helps to hide the plane at large distances.

SU-57 is for dogfighting and has radar and heat/image seeking missile jammers to avoid being locked on.



So it’s like 

>the f35 can’t get a lock on over a large distance

>su57 doesn’t see the f35 

>f35 can’t engage the su57 in dogfight

It’s a stalemate basically and a very retarded one

if you can't even fucking read, why do you think you're qualified to explain anything at all?

Are you some sort of expertise/knowledge evaluation officer? Fuck off.

>I know nothing about fighter jets besides headlines on the internet, the post

Also you can't read lol

Are you?

this thread is about the F-22, you dumb shit. not the F-35. and it's extremely clear that you have a video-game-tier understanding of the topic. 

stop fucking posting. start lurking. your opinion is completely worthless.

IRST can get a lock-on at 50km from the frontal aspect and 90km from the rear aspect. How long is the longest ever AMRAAM kill recorded, 45km? I forget.



And the F-35 can dogfight. It's a nose-pointer, just like the Hornet.

>>57903090 (OP)

In video games

>>57903090 (OP)

Probably not. The SU-57 barely exists in numbers and at this point it's highly unlikely that America would get into an actual conflict with Russia in the next decade or so before it's replaced by NGAD. F-22 vs. J-20 is more likely in the near term desu.

>>57903090 (OP)

Considering the Su-57 doesn't exist in any numbers, no.

>>57903090 (OP)

In 2069, Muscovy free state finally collapses and Ukrainian F22s scramble to cross the DMZ and impose a no-fly zone. A single legacy SU-57 attempts take off.

>old relics

The sourest of thirdie grapes.

>google because brainlet

>end up on LockMart's website

>scroll down 

>In the late 1990s, Lockheed Martin’s IRST technology was used for the U.S. Air Force YAL-1 Airborne Laser program. Six IRST systems were strategically placed around a Boeing 747, creating a 360-degree “fence.” Together, these IRST systems scanned the environment to detect ballistic missiles and queue a laser weapon system to destroy the missiles.

Wait what the fuck, hang on, burgers have a laser anti-missile weapon?

You don't sell your best shit

>F35 has piss poor maneuverability 

>SU-57 is for dogfighting 

yep you are an idiot

>picrel *still* mogs an Su-57 regardless

>>57903090 (OP)

I don't think we'll ever see planes fighting each other ever again.

YAL was cancelled but yeah that was a thing



i believe one of the cited reasons was a 747 with a laser on the nose was insufficient for ballistic missile defense
