I haven't had chills like this in a long time

Vinland Saga is by far the dumbest out of "big" seinen.

>you have no enemies bro, just be viking kungfu god jesus, works for me

>>251792786 (OP)

Fuck off cuck

>>251792786 (OP)

I don’t really like Hohenheims redesign. Kinda looks stupid without his glasses.

>just become the kung-fu buddha and defeat your enemies through pacifism no jutsu, the world is only bad because vikings are corrupted by their needless desires.

>>251792786 (OP)

It's weird how this series is more exciting to me than common battle shounen even though almost nothing is happening.

It's so fucking dumb, my issue with this arc is not so much the moralist preaching, it actually remembers of Gundam Seed of all things, because the protagonists would go around talking about how war is bad and killing is bad, then you look at his Gundam and it shots billion lasers that always destroy their weapons, yeah it's very easy to preach when you can have a ridiculous overpowered plot armor that allows you to solve any issue.



This is kind of the point, though. The first arc is all setting up the horrors of war and the pointlessness of it, even of revenge. You have the first arc so you understand why Thorfinn (and previously, Thors) reject violence. 



The second arc and what comes after is not just Thorfinn embracing pacifism as a means of atonement for all the killing he did, but highlighting how absolute pacifism *doesn't work*. When you are surrounded by bad actors who see killing you and taking your stuff as perfectly fine, refusing to fight back at all is just making yourself a victim. Thorfinn is only able to narrowly survive and keep the people he is protecting safe because of the exact skills he gained by being so good at killing people before that he can afford to handicap himself by not going for the kill now and still having decent odds of winning.



The limits of pacifism and the difficulty of escaping the cycle of violence without just using more violence is a big part of the story. Its the ultimate hurdle that the main characters have to overcome.

No, I understand this is the message, my issue it's how it's applied in the story, if thorfinn actually had to deal with having to defend himself with you know actual sword skills while avoiding to murder and hurt his enemies and not ninja or kungfu it would actually feel like he is actually living by his ideals with actual struggles, instead he has a ridiculous plot armor that even after fucking years without doing anything he is easily better than anyone.
