Why is art pop now a lot closer to mainstream pop than it used to be? If you played a track from Vespertine by Bjork on top 40 radio back in ‘01 it would clearly stand out, but if you play a track from pic related on the radio today no one will bat an eye.

>>116034793 (OP)

because artists are complete fucking pussies in 2023

>>116034793 (OP)

define art pop

>>116034793 (OP)

I heard a track from this. There wasn't any 'art', only pop.

Just going by the tags on RYM and lastfm.

>>116034793 (OP)

I think I get the question, but



>art pop

Do you even know wtf you're talking about?



And yeah there's more tolerance for weird stuff being inserted in current mainstream music because their recipes for making music have been so hackneyed, they're desperate to gain some modicum of 'authenticity' by using whatever sonic gimmicks they can find. After all music today is all about sound texture and atmosphere, not about songwriting. So it's the style and impression that matter, not the substance.

>>116034793 (OP)

Art pop was always a horseshit genre, but especially in the last few years art pop is just "A pop album but the person listening to it wants to feel superior to people who listen to Taylor Swift". It doesn't sound foreign on the radio because it's just radio pop with a marketing spin to sell it to people who read Pitchfork.

>>116034793 (OP)

Because Welcome to my Island is just a pure pop song and a fuck of a lot more accessible than Hidden Place. I don't really get why anyone calls this album art pop, last of hers yea okay whatever I guess, but this is completely clear of it, it's barely even indie, just sophistipop for younger millennials really

>>116034793 (OP)

whats funny is that no pop station is playing this

it's alt stations like KROQ in los angeles

>>116034793 (OP)

Unironically I think it's just the notion that art pop appeals to gays, so a lot of artist try to do "avant-garde" stuff when its really just dressing really campy and doing falsetto vocals over dance beats, not to mention the weird little thing they all do with their hands too.

>>116034793 (OP)

What I meant to say is that our definition of art pop has just expanded and it was loose to begin with, but if you put a song from Vespertine on the radio in the middle of other top 40 hits even now it would really stand out and not just because of us being in a different era

The second half of Hounds of Love is almost pure prog as well, several songs aren't pop at all, but we usually refer to that album as the mother of all art pop so who knows?

100% if she was younger and/or hotter she'd just be a normal mainsteam pop star rn. art pop now just means it's pop for people over 22 and has less to do with the actual sound of the music. it's alternative pop because she's not proper pop star material but she's squeezing in there neway desu, the market just doesn't leave a lot of space for older(over 19-20) audiences
