Who was ultimately more responsible for the endless bloodshed, the natives or the colonists?

>>14955262 (OP)

On the Great Plains? The natives. Look at the brutality of the Comanche-Apache War. The Apache even tried to garner Spanish protection in one instance. Torture and rape was an entrenched part of tribal customs. There was a reason why the Tonkawa, for instance, readily sided with the U.S. Army against the Comanche.

>>14955262 (OP)

The invader.

>>14955262 (OP)



I was.

Which native tribe would that be? Their territory was conquered on the bodies of other tribes.

Exactly. Everyone has conquered one other at some point so who cares? That's why I support the replacement of white people in Europe. All those savages did for centuries was fight eachother.

>>14955262 (OP)

The colonists but there was by far more colonists so each colonist was responsible for less on an individual level.

>>14955262 (OP)

Well...

>>14955262 (OP)

Indians killed more of their own through millenia just like it is the case with asians, whites, blacks. Shocking I know.

replace indian with southern chattel slave owner and flee from the deluge of the liberal collective orgasm

Even today, the average person who whines about the treatment of the Natives can't differentiate between tribes.

Doesn't clarify much without context. We already know the wars were brutal.

Slave owners by default are bad.

>>14955262 (OP)

Neither, they both fought to secure their futures. 

Whites had been successful and that drove the natives to ever more desperate measures sinking to the lowest most brutal forms of retaliation.

Muh librulz

colonists on the whole, but there were plenty of cases (especially on the plains, was a sad case of a nomadic culture either not knowing how fucked it was or not being able to change) where native political leadership did themselves no favors and blundered into a disastrous war.

Then again there were some exceptions, Iroquois diplomacy was truly masterful until plague and internal dissension wrecked them during the ARW, Tecumseh did basically everything he should have but lost anyway because it was just too late to stand up to the eternal burger.

Wait this can't be true. I was told by our trusted historians that northern Republicans were supposed to be the 10/10 heckin' wholesome ones during the 1860s? That they only became the baddies of US politics after the great Nixon fliperino of the civil rights era?

>>14955262 (OP)

> YOU CAN"T JUST INVADE SOMEONE'S LAND YOU EVIL COLONIZERS.

>Now shut up and let these immigrants in, they are just looking for a better life. You evil fascist.

everybody sucks

> Chief (Can't KIll Him)

Gets eaten alive.

I see flags of El Salvador and Honduras. Central Americans are not Native Americans, false equivalence. Mayan people have little connection to the Sioux, not sure why you'd bring this up here.

Race matters until it becomes inconvenient for you huh? Those people are mostly genetically Amerindian.

So, the Aztecs automatically have a right to former Cherokee territory? I guess Poland should be subjected to masses of Russian immigrants, then.

>I guess Poland should be subjected to masses of Russian immigrants, then

Why not? If anyone tried to distinguish between ethnic groups in Europe you'd call them a "kike trying to d&amp;c.".



Like I said, it becomes inconvenient for you.
