>and I made France bigger

1. Ur cunt

2. Ur flag

3. How big should France be?

>>181396585 (OP)

No larger than a postage stamp.

From Wallonia to Catalonia

That’s not big enough.

This big.

Still not big enough.

No, THIS big!

>>181396585 (OP)

EU should be controlled by them

>>181396585 (OP)

France should be smaller, they have it too easy

But the borders make sense - seas, mountains or major rivers all around.

In fact all it's lacking now is aligning the border to the Rhine all the way.

So, annexing Belgium, Luxembourg, about half of the Netherlands, and a small bit of Germany.

>MUH RHINE MUH RHINE MUH RHINE MUH RHINE

>actually dutch rhine is fine (:

frogs should be forcefully medicated for schizophrenia

I would like to request a moment of silence for all the Germans and Italians who have been forcefully assimilated into the French nation.

F

>>181396585 (OP)

It should have:



Either it's natural borders, which is what >>181397468 showed us.

Or have Wallonia + Brussels, Romandy, Aosta Valley, possibly Catalonia and maybe, reaaaly maybe Piedmont.

We are getting there.

Why Catalonia and Piedmont?

>>181396585 (OP)

This big

stfu or ur next

>medicated

Those borders were the recommendations of Vauban (the famed military engineer) to his King (Louis XIV).

He advocated defensible borders, shaping the country as a giant fortress - an hexagon.

Look at the borders today, you'll see that was completed on five sides : North Sea, atlantic, Pyrenees, the Med, the alps, and part of the Rhine - but not all the way.



Millions died during the world wars because of this - the Germans did not need to cross the Rhine, already being on the left bank - or they invaded the Benelux, which wasn't French (Netherlands north of the Rhine should be left alone though).



Of course in these days of nuclear weapons, largely a moot point.

educated post

but not Romandy ; unlike Belgium (and Luxembourg) it IS a different culture.

They are Swiss, and belong with the other Swiss and not France (or Germany, or Italy).

Arguably the most culturally similar places to France that aren't part of France but were at one point in history adjacent to it.

So Luxembourg, a country with its own language, a population that speaks this language, french, german, english, mortuguese... is culturally french but not Romandie, which is known to....just speak french?

Yeah. Roussillon in SE France was part of Catalonia, and still is (called North Catalonia) by some.

It ended up in France because it's north of the Pyrenees - thus, easier for France to conquer/defend than for Spain to defend/retake.

Conversely, France did take Barcelona (in 1697 during the Nine Years' War), but it wasn't kept during the peace negotiations - Strasbourg was thought more useful (because of Vauban's advice) - easier to defend from the next huge coalition Europe would form to "solve the French problem".

Thanks god we don't have to deal with scatalans these days

Didn't say they *are* French in Luxembourg, but I can see them integrating.

Everyone speaks French there (plus German plus Luxembourgish) because they hold classes in all three at school (not just teach the language as a foreign language).



Francophone Swiss are just Swiss who happen to speak French. They did form their own culture and mentality. Each canton is different from the others yet they are Swiss - and not something else.
