Are abs supposed to be extremely slow to develop? I've been doing ab routine for about 2 months now on a caloric surplus with over 170g of protein daily and I'm noticing fuck all difference? I'm 12% or so bf I've always just been a skinny bitch with no muscle definition.

..this sucks

>>70663208 (OP)

dude if your abs arent popping at 12% you barely have any muscle

>you barely have any muscle

Yes, I know. I am fully aware. I never really have worked out in my life, well, i have, but I wasn't eating at all nor minding my protein so basically I was working out my abs with no nutrition to back it and I sure as fuck was not eating at a surplus. I just don't eat much.



The past two months I have PURPOSELY been eating 500-600 above my TDEE and have gained a few lbs, but my abs just aren't changing in any way?

Post body because most people severely underestimate their bf%, unless you had a dexa scan that said 12% yours is probably higher than that. Keep in mind callipers and navy method both have a 4% magin of error.



Also from the sounds of this post you also fell for some meme "get shredded abs in 16 weeks!!" routine full of complete bullshit that doesnt actually work. Those do fuck all other than cardio. Whats your routine?

>>70663208 (OP)

I am in this same boat

Hungryskeleton my whole life, never seen abs.



I just added some heavier ab work hoping it pushes the needle

You're not 12%. Simple as.

>>70663208 (OP)

Abs be damned, he did not get that chest in four months

I have had a dexa scan like 5 months ago, It said 13% bf. 

Anon, I am skinny to the point my rib cage (the sides) and the bones on my pelvis are visible and my front ribs flare. My face is slightly caved in by my cheeks due to lack of facial fat.



I'm 5 ft 9, "losing weight" is 100% not the answer for me, my issue isn't too much fat covering abs, it's a pure lack of muscle mass of said abs. They just have no definition as there's no muscle to show. I'm trying and struggling to build said muscle. 

same to this. I am a skinny shit, fat is not the issue. Losing more weight would make me look far worse, skeleton tier

not sure about first 2 pics but 3rd one is definitely a different guy

Quit doing the retard ab routine shit, go lift weights and train abs with hanging leg raises after legs, then cut bodyfat. Unless you get strong you will spin your wheels for a long time and accomplish nothing.

You can be skinny and still pudgy. It's common to underestimate bodyfat. Even dexa scans are notoriously inaccurate, the most accurate way to estimate is just visual. Even then the anyone is bound to be wrong by +/-2%.



Regardless it doesn't really matter. You can't see your abs and that's a problem. Post physique and we can give some actual advice on whether you should bulk or cut. And FYI your training is most likely also a huge issue if you are unironically doing an "ab routine".

All three are different guys, compare the nipples.

>no routine posted



Retard

And belly button
