Out of all of the hipster 9mm alternative handgun cartridges (40 S&amp;W, .357 SIG, 30 super carry) which one is the best?

>>57944800 (OP)

As an owner of .40 problem solver, thats what Id say. 9mm is cope, .45 is fudd, .357 fag is too limited in availability with no proper govt backing. So .40 shit&amp;worthless it is.

>I saw it refured to as .40 swishers&amp;watermelon and it hurt my feelings.

>>57944800 (OP)

.40 is the most available and as of right now you can get shit tons of LEO surplus guns and ammo for it 



I got 1000 rounds of Speer Gold Dot 165 gr for 44.5 cpr. It’s a shame for .40 that 10mm has become so popular that it’s cheaper that .45 auto now. If you can justify a .40 you can easily justify carrying a 10mm instead.

>>57944800 (OP)

It'll be a cold day in hell before I forgive .40 Shit &amp; Wesson for existing.



Off of your list, .30 super carry. 



IRL, 5.7x28 because it's already been tooled up for by a fair number of places.

>.40 swishers&amp;watermelon

KEK

>>57944800 (OP)

5.7 seems to be getting more viable every year, lots of mainstream manufacturers are picking up both the ammo and the new gun variants. .30 super carry is too new to call. .357 sig is right on the line of being a wildcat cartridge, there are *very* few guns chambered in it as far as i know but it's been around long enough to be a known quantity. ballistically it seems pretty good, bottlenecked pistol cartridges usually are. .40sw is alright.

>shame for .40

Fuck you, your entire cartridge is a bastard that should have never existed.



10mm Auto was the fucking way to go and the FBI had to go and cock it up like every other three letter agency does.

>>57944800 (OP)

10 mm mag./.40 S&amp;W.



I carry a 9mm semi auto and a .357 mag wheelgun. If I were to upgrade the wheelgun it would be .41 mag. I have "upgraded" neither because 9mm and .357 don't need to be "upgraded." I shoot mostly .38 Spl through the wheelgun, but keep .357 in it for defense. If I wanted to "upgrade" my 9mm, I'd load it with P+ and it would be a .357. More or less.



Since I have a levergat in .357, I also have to consider swapping that for .41. Overall, the total cost analysis doesn't justify the "upgrades" for any practical needs, so 9mm/.357 it is and shall remain.

Why .41 instead of .44?

I've gotta say, I've never understood .41 magnums existence when .44 does seemingly the same shit but with greater availability.

>.40 is the most available

The handgun selection in .40 is pretty great, you can even get a Browning HP that slings it

My personal favorite is .40 S&amp;W. 135gr Cor-bon JHP, and 155gr and 165gr Gold Dots are fairly energetic out of a full-size handgun, and 180gr HST does very well in shorter barrels. The increased "snappiness" over 9mm is overstated and insignificant if using comparable gun and ammo choices.



I like pretty much all cartridges, though. I'm even a .45 GAP respecter.

Yeah, from what I understand, the original vision seemed like a cool idea, but .41 Special never became a thing (other than Starline or somebody making brass for it) and Remington or whoever went all in on power when producing it, so now it's just .44 Magnum Minus in the same package (N-Frames and Blackhawks) as the real thing. Could be an interesting option for handloaders, though.
