Peak Japan



Imagine how powerful they’d be if they just stopped here and industrialised. Then became the western allies bulwark against communism in the east

>>14978365 (OP)

They did anyway. The only difference is the West lost North Korea.

>>14978365 (OP)

They did exactly that. But they autistically did not include Koreans in the governing process and wanted more.

>>14978365 (OP)

>Imagine how powerful they’d be if they just stopped here and industrialised.

they already industrialized and didn't want to stop expanding, since they considered themselves the "have-nots" compared to Britain France USA and USSR who had massive territories

>Then became the western allies bulwark against communism in the east

lol Americans helped bankroll the bolsheviks in the first place. as long as Japan was powerful, independent and capable of expansion America would regard it as the premier threat not the Soviet Union. War Plan Orange and all that. Americans were planning for war from day 1

>>14978365 (OP)



In tge ultimatum sent by the USA in ww2 to lift the oil embargo, it was implied that Japan could also keep all of Manchuria as well. 



So yeah, imagine Japan that big, and if Hitler had stopped at Sudetenland, maybe gain Danzig by relentless diplomacy and both these axis just consolidate their race and nations. Would have been a comfy world today. Everyone would envy them.



Unfortunately nazis had to sperg out and ruin everything.

>it was implied that Japan could also keep all of Manchuria as well.

if that could have prevented the war America would have made it explicity clear instead of implying. There are no accidents in diplomacy. USA used deliberately vague language because they obviously wanted Japan out of Manchuria but wanted to maybe fool them into thinking they would be allowed to keep it, which the Japanese obviously weren't stupid enough to fall for.

Why not invade Korea again and see what happens?



You know Japanese can read right? Diplomacy, politics and law, is all about choosing your words carefully, stay out of the corner, and follow interpretation. 

The Japanese diplomats would have immediately picked it up. They're not stupid.

yes that's what I said

the japanese read, and decided not to assume anything. so if america "implied" they could keep manchuria, it doesn't matter, the japanese weren't going to accept a deal where something so important was only "implied" instead of, you know, guaranteed



If nothing is fully stated and intentionally left out, then your are completely legal to act on it. So why wouldn't the Japanese act on it when it's within their legal rights?

>>14978365 (OP)

Japan should have all of Karafuto!

>The Japanese diplomats would have immediately picked it up. They're not stupid.



In fact this is why they ended up going to war.



>If nothing is fully stated and intentionally left out, then your are completely legal to act on it. So why wouldn't the Japanese act on it when it's within their legal rights



Not really how international law works. Japan is in a weak position, they couldn't do shit if the USA decided take-backsies.
