What's the point in "ethical" hunting ammo if it groups like shit even at 100 yards over match?

 Side by side. I shot them in 5 alternating 3 round strings beginning with the hunting ammo on the right, and ending with a full 5 round magazine at the end for 20 shots of each. Aiming dead center. Barrel was given enough time to cool for mirage to go away.

 I'd rather put a guaranteed hole in a heart over a meaty hole into shoulder meat or missing altogether. What say you?

>>57934968 (OP)

>ethical ammo

stop drinking boomerfaggot fuddlore

You mean lead free.

Find a better manufacturer, whoever you're using is retarded.

>>57934968 (OP)

Use bullets with aluminum casings anon. They're lighter so your gun will cycle faster!

>>57934968 (OP)

Need a better rifle and need to get good before you can start talking shit about your ammo. Your better group is still shit and it's not the ammo's fault.

>visible difference between the two

lol, lmao.

All the hunting ammo I shoot in my .300WM X-bolt groups 1moa or better at 200 meters. 

Do you or your gun simply suck?

>>57934968 (OP)

>What say you?

First that I don't believe you. Those are wildly bad groups even with steelcase red army bottom barrel crap. Next, I say I have no idea wtf you're talking about OP. Hollow point? Some special material? But still I have no idea how the fuck you got right regardless of ammo. Nothing is THAT bad with the same rifle and fixed position.



The 165gr copper monolithic rounds I like after trying a dozen different weights and kinds do better groups than your left there. 2-3moa is fine for hunting so 1moa is obviously plenty. At any rate you have problems.

I shot shouldered, since it's generally how I hunt. I'm not impressed by bench groups.

post your groups.

I don't take advice from zoomers, sorry. You're all effectively female blacks.

>>57934968 (OP)

>3.5 MOA with match grade ammo, opening to 7 MOA with hunting ammo

How did you even manage this? Bad shooting would get the group on the left, but I'm at a loss as to how you achieved that group on the right shooting under the same conditions outside of questionable reloads.

You are actually bad. Get sticks, you brainlet.

>>57934968 (OP)

>"ethical" hunting ammo

> groups like shit

Found your problem. Category #1 does not exist if Category #2 applies.

>I shot shouldered, since it's generally how I hunt. I'm not impressed by bench groups.

You're a literal retard. Bench groups is a core part of how you determine whether it's the ammo or whether it's you. Eliminating variables. Even a grade schooler learns this stuff.

>but I'm at a loss as to how you achieved that group on the right shooting under the same conditions outside of questionable reloads.

Even that I still don't understand. He says he's shooting while standing so is he somehow jerking the rifle around for some weird reason? And he still hasn't explained what "ethical ammo" even fucking is in his weird brain.

>>57934968 (OP)



>what gun

>whats the round count on the barrel

>what calibre

>what ammo

>>57934968 (OP)

I can group 3 MOA with .30 Barnes TSX while slinging it out of a FAL. User error.
