Most of the provinces were third worlder for roman era standards.

>>14989452 (OP)

That and that beef between Bonifatius and Aetius

Vandals ruined it

>>14989452 (OP)

Pretty insane to think there are countries in the 21st century with that or even lower level of GDP per capita

Pretty insane that some of those same countries have swathes of their population that live lives objectively worse than than the average roman. Imagine not having access to clean drinking water, paved roads, or any uniform semblance of governance and be jealous of the standard of living of people who lived 2000 years ago

Imagine framing ancient history - especially RVMAN history - into judeoamerican values LMAO. the romans always called the egyptians barbarians and slaves, they hated and despised them, Augustus banned egyptian cults/priests/immigrants from Rome. Regardless of their wealth. Now read what Tacitus writes about the Germans. Yes, they were poor, but the Romans saw themselves, as they were in the beginning, in that people. The whole policy of Augustus was based on that, and that's why Mark Antony failed.

>but the Romans saw themselves, as they were in the beginning, in that people

no they didn't

Yes they did retard

>>14989452 (OP)

Leaving aside the ancient gdp nonsense. No because the inflated italian gdp is decades if not centuries of tax money and when Rome was an upstart it was at poorer than Carthage, or Greece, so it could never stay together in the 100 years it took from unifying all italians to conquering them according to this logic.

Christianism alienating the rural masses that would have been most conscripts to the army makes a much better explanation. Still tons of pagans in the countryside into the early middle ages. 

Eastern side had a lot more christians and was much less reliant on germanics, and once the visigoths were away never again had germanic problems. More importantly it had better emperors and no coups until Zeno.

>Wealth didn't matter back then because...because... because of the rvmvn aryan spirit or something, okey?

Yeah, sure.

>>14989452 (OP)

>14 AD

So just after Caesar raped Gaul? What if things were different centuries later? 

Also the two main West vs East civil wars were won by the western side. Ausutus and Constantine vs Antony and Licinius

Augustus*

>>14989452 (OP)

>14 AD

>GDP map

Should be banable honestly

>>14989452 (OP)

firstly this is a meme map

secondly it is based on state income from taxation,

meaning the money the state took from the people,

tying it to per capita living is utterly asinine,

as the average person in Egypt probably lived a far worse life than an average citizen in a +10 000 town anywhere in Spain or Gaul who had all the Roman infrastructure but also a far higher access to protein intake and much less urban squalor.



Also the colors confuse your monkey brain,

even the meme numbers show fucking swamp ass Belgium as merely 30% poorer Egypt and mere 15% poorer than the other red zones.

> even the meme numbers show fucking swamp ass Belgium as merely 30% poorer Egypt and mere 15% poorer than the other red zones.



It is also 14AD, which makes it even more hilarious since it is barely over a generation from Roman conquest.



But yeah, the percentage differences are meager, like comparing Germany to the Netherlands, France or Ireland and taking a laugh

romans were poorer, not roman state.

whole policy of augustus was based on civilizing snowniggers to stop them from raiding.
