Is this the absolute OP meta for modern ground warfare? With enough drones and guided artillery, you basically have the ability to see everything on the battlefield and strike any spotted target within a minute in very a cost effective way. For an equal control of airspace (or even slight to medium disandvatage) there is no way you could lose an engagement against direct fire infantry/armor, expecially if you sprinkle in some MLRS/more specialised drones for deep strikes and mortars/drone drops for closer range engagements. This is basically how ukies are fucking puccia up with such a high KD, and the only reason they haven't reached moscow is because they don't have enough shells.



How would you even counter this without absolute air domination

>>57926115 (OP)

shooting down the drones

counter-battery fire

not parking your tanks in one spot and actually trying to keep momentum of attack so you cant just be bombarded



its just a better way to conduct artillery fire than it was previously, but it is not a wholly insurmountable development

>shooting down the drones

The US is working on a laser SHORAD system do to this.



>counter-battery fire

This lmao



>not parking your tanks in one spot

This is pounded, no correction sledgehammered into literally every officer in the US Army and USMC. It's one of the most critical parts of current doctrine.

>shooting down the drones

How? (Hard mode: you can't use a billion dollar system to shoot down a $1k drone)

>counter-battery fire

Self propelled artillery also counter-counter-battery fire but you have the recon and precision advantage

>keep momentum of attack

Still pretty easy to hit moving armor with this combo from the videos I've seen

>>57926115 (OP)

>How would you even counter this

get good at early detection of drones and shooting them down

>>57926115 (OP)

We're only really seeing this in a fight without the typical USAF level of air superiority memeing on everyone on the ground.

>How?

drones are easier to intercept than regular planes as they fly lower and closer to the ground



>Self propelled artillery also counter-counter-battery fire but you have the recon and precision advantage

if your artillery is lighting up every target they see, then their position is known and can be return fired, its not a hard concept



even with the proliferation of drones allowing for more accurate fire, it doesnt change the basic equation that you can only fire so many rounds before you need to pack up and move



>Still pretty easy to hit moving armor with this combo from the videos I've seen

most armor knock outs are from straddling armor repeatedly until the scratch damage piles up and they lose all their optics and tracks



keeping up a fluid formation without standing still means that artillety guns either need to disperse and cover a wide area or risk getting encircled

>ignores the existence of laser systems

bait thread everyone move along

>How?

Laser systems are a meme

spreading your forces around so they're not a juicy target has been doctrine since the Cold War

There are multiple squad level laser defense systems being developed right now because shit like this is not sustainable.

>developed



Technically, but the system is mature enough that they're rolling it out to soldiers to play with and break while the Army figures out official doctrine, and the version intended for MRAP sized vehicles is supposed to be coming out at the end of the year as well.



https://www.defensenews.com/land/2023/04/13/army-short-range-air-defense-laser-prototypes-take-down-drones-at-yuma/

>How?

Gepard.

Skyranger for the more modern approach.
