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Think Lovely Thoughts - wikipedia Think Lovely Thoughts Jump to : navigation , search <Th_colspan="2"> `` Think Lovely Thoughts '' <Td_colspan="2"> Once Upon a Time episode Episode no . Season 3 Episode 8 Directed by David Solomon Written by David H. Goodman & Robert Hull Production code 308 Original air date November 17 , 2013 ( 2013 - 11 - 17 ) <Th_colspan="2"> Guest appearance ( s ) <Td_colspan="2"> Robbie Kay as Peter Pan Rose McIver as Tinker Bell Wyatt Oleff as Young Rumpelstiltskin Colin Corrigan as Thug Stephen Lord as Malcolm Lindsey Collins as Spinster # 1 Glynis Davies as Spinster # 2 Freya Tingley as Wendy Darling Marilyn Manson as The Shadow <Th_colspan="2"> Episode chronology <Td_colspan="2"> ← Previous `` Dark Hollow '' Next → `` Save Henry '' <Td_colspan="2"> Once Upon a Time ( season 3 ) List of Once Upon a Time episodes `` Think Lovely Thoughts '' is the eighth episode of the third season of the American fantasy drama series Once Upon a Time , and the show 's 52nd episode overall . In this episode , the group races to Skull Rock in order to save Henry ( Jared S. Gilmore ) from Peter Pan ( Robbie Kay ) , who plans to harness immortality by taking Henry 's heart . Meanwhile , a young Rumpelstiltskin ( Wyatt Oleff ) and his scheming father Malcolm ( Stephen Lord ) make their way to Neverland , which soon becomes a life - altering journey for both of them . The episode was met with positive reviews from critics ; however , the episode saw a significant drop in ratings , with 6.66 million viewers tuning in . Contents ( hide ) 1 Plot 1.1 Opening Sequence 1.2 In the characters ' past 1.3 In Neverland 2 Cultural references 3 Production 4 Reception 4.1 Ratings 4.2 Critical reception 5 References 6 External links Plot ( edit ) Opening Sequence ( edit ) Skull Rock is featured . In the characters ' past ( edit ) In a local tavern yard , a young boy , who is revealed to be a young Rumplestiltskin , begs a man not to hurt his father Malcolm , who is a 3 - card monte cheat . Later on , Malcolm brings Rumplestiltskin to a cabin and asks the women spinning wool to look after him as he attempts to get a real job . Before he goes , he gives his son the corn husk doll as a present . Hours later , the women see that Rumplestiltskin has a huge talent for spinning . While Rumplestiltskin tells them that he believed that Malcolm will come back , the ladies tell him that he returned to the same tavern . The women advise him to take the magic bean and go someplace where his father 's bad reputation wo n't follow him . Rumplestiltskin later return to the same tavern , and just as the ladies told him , sees his father playing games again . Rumplstiltskin coaxes Malcolm to go away somewhere and make a fresh start . Malcolm then remembers the phrase `` think lovely thoughts , '' which he used to comfort himself when he was apprenticed to a blacksmith . So they use the bean to go to a place called Neverland , holding hands . As they land in Neverland , Malcolm tells his son to imagine a cake , and it appears . He then tells him that in Neverland anyone can fly , but as he attempts to take off , he falls to the ground because he is now a grown - up . Malcolm remembers needing Pixie Dust , but Rumplestiltskin is too scared to climb up the tall trees that have the pixie dust flowers , so Malcolm tells him to wait and he 'll get enough for both . He climbs up and sprinkles some dust on himself , saying `` I want to fly , '' but just then the shadow comes and mocks him , telling him he does n't belong . On the ground , Rumplestiltskin later weeps , thinking his father has met with an accident after one of his shoes falls from the tree , but then his father climbs down to comfort him , telling him that Neverland is only for children . Unfortunately , as Rumplestiltskin suggests they go somewhere else , Malcolm says he knows he would just go back to his old ways if he did . The shadow then comes to take Rumplestiltskin , believing it is the only way the father can believe he 's a young man . As the shadow takes Rumplestiltskin away he witnesses a green spell coming over Malcolm , who suddenly turns into the infamous Peter Pan , a name that Rumplestiltskin had given his lost doll . After he returned to stay with the women he tells them of what had happen , as the women believe that he would be better off without a father . Pan and the shadow then arrive at Skull Rock , where the shadow tells Pan that the island was created when Pan decided to stay , and the hourglass shows how much time he has before he stops being young and dies . In doing so , the shadow tells Pan that he broke the rules by staying because Neverland is a place for children to visit in their dreams . In Neverland ( edit ) As Emma Swan , Neal , Hook , David , Tinker Bell , and Mary Margaret walk through the forest towards Pan 's camp , Emma confronts Mary Margaret about staying behind with David , which made Emma concerned that she will once again be separated from her family . As Regina and Gold emerged from another location , the reunion does not goes smoothly as Neal tells everyone involved that Gold was planning to kill Henry because of a prophecy . They all draw their weapons on him , but Gold proves his legitimacy by handing over Pandora 's Box to earn their trust , and tells Neal he has no idea who he 's up against as Gold explains to Neal that Pan was responsible for his father Malcolm 's demise . Despite this , Neal made sure that Gold does not use magic and Gold agrees to it . Meanwhile , Hook and Emma discuss Neal 's fate and the future of David when Gold says he may know a cure , as he remembered the elixir that saved him back at Storybrooke . As they finally reach Pan 's camp , the party come up with a plan to keep The Lost Boys at bay , so Regina waves her hand and causes a sleeping spell and the Boys doze off . They then hear Wendy and Emma see her in cage , and Neal breaks her free . She 's startled to see Neal , who she knew as Baelfire , now grown up . She explains that she went back to Neverland to save him , because she remembered Neal telling her that his parents were dead , to which a stunned Gold replied `` You told them that ? '' But Bae says that it was better than saying his father abandoned him . At first , Wendy lies to the rescuers about where Pan is , but Gold recognizes she 's lying and she comes clean , and admits that Pan really wants the heart of the truest believer so he can be immortal , which is actually Henry 's heart . It 's a trade , she says , because once Pan has the heart , Henry will die . Neal promises he will save her brothers and Regina tells Wendy that John and Michael are safe in Storybrooke . They make a plan to rescue Henry , and send David to Dead Man 's Peak to get water to make a cure . Emma then tells everyone involved that they will all return home once they rescue Henry . So Emma , Regina , Gold , and Neal race off to Skull Rock . As the individuals prepare their plan of attack , Peter Pan ( Robbie Kay ) and Henry ( Jared S. Gilmore ) arrives at Skull Rock , where Pan tells Henry ( who is unaware that Pan is actually his great grandfather ) that he can save magic , and Henry believed him . As they enter the caves , Pan cast a protection spell to keep anyone with a shadow out . The individuals then reach the island , where Gold eventually penetrated the spell because he has no shadow . The other members finally believe that he wants to save Henry and Neal gives the box back to him , followed by Regina and Emma casting an eclipse spell so they can enter . Henry and Pan finally enter a large chamber that contains a large hourglass on top of a pedestal of golden skulls that shows the magic slowly fading , indicating how much time is left for magic in Neverland . After looking at this , Pan tells Henry it is time to save magic , but he now wants to use Henry 's heart rather than believing in it , then lies to Henry that he 'll live forever in Neverland if he does this . He then is interrupted by a presence , as Gold shows up to confront his father and to stop him from going through with this and takes out the box . Pan says they are really alike because both abandoned their sons , but Gold says he regretted leaving his son the moment he let him go and spent the rest of his life trying to get him back . Pan then responds `` Why do you think I call myself Peter Pan ? '' and asks Gold to put the box down so they can make a fresh start . After Gold refuses , he waves his hand over the box but nothing happens , as Gold discovers Pan switched boxes , and Pan waves his hand over the real one and places Gold inside it . Pan then returns to finish his scheme to take Henry 's heart by giving him magic to allow him to remove it . As Henry succeeds in doing so , Emma , Regina and Neal arrive to stop Henry from giving it to Pan , but Pan tells Henry that they are lying to him because they are adults even as they tell Henry they believe in him because they love him . Unfortunately , Henry , believing that he can save magic , gives his heart to Pan , who has now emerged victorious in his plot to become immortal . Henry dies as a result . Cultural references ( edit ) When Rumple tells Neal that `` Peter Pan destroyed my father '' , it is similar to a scene in Star Wars Episode IV : A New Hope , in which Obi - Wan Kenobi tells Luke Skywalker the story about a Jedi called Darth Vader who was a pupil of Kenobi before he turned to Evil and killed Luke 's father . Furthermore , the revelation that Peter Pan is actually Rumple 's father is similar to another scene in The Empire Strikes Back where Vader reveals that he is Luke 's father . Production ( edit ) This episode features American musician Marilyn Manson as the voice of The Shadow . On October 21 , British actor Stephen Lord was announced to be playing Rumplestiltskin 's father , Malcolm / Colin . He featured in this episode , and will also feature on the eleventh episode of the season . The detail and reveal of Peter Pan 's true identity was kept a secret from cast members , who were banned from finding out until the episode aired . According to Ginnifer Goodwin , `` We were so banned , '' she says . `` We had to sign our lives away . That 's truly the Rumple story , like we own the children . Some cast members saw it coming and I was shocked , but I guess it makes so much sense because the family is cursed . Each generation is caught in a cycle of sacrificing family for power and it only makes sense that Rumple would be the product of such a villain . '' Reception ( edit ) Ratings ( edit ) The episode saw another decline in the ratings , scoring a 1.9 / 5 among 18 - 49s with only 6.67 million tuning in , making it the lowest rated episode in the series so far and the only one to post below a 2.0 . This setback can attributed to the debut of FOX 's science fiction crime drama Almost Human , which had 3.1 / 8 among 18 - 49s with 9.18 million viewers watching , marking the first time that OUAT was beaten by another scripted program since its 2011 debut . It can also be attributed to television coverage of the November 17 , 2013 tornado outbreak in several Midwestern states that was shown on ABC rather than Once Upon a Time . Critical reception ( edit ) The episode received generally positive reviews from critics . Amy Ratcliffe of IGN gave the episode the second highest score of the season thus far , after `` Ariel , '' giving in an 8.9 out of 10 , saying `` tonight 's installment of Once was engaging , touching , and action - packed . The twists were complete surprises , and they did n't feel contrived . The rescue party was the most together they 've been and it was fun to watch them jump into action . I felt more invested in the characters than I have at any other point this season , and I ca n't wait to see what happens next . '' Hillary Busis of Entertainment Weekly commented `` Just when you thought Henry 's family tree could n't get any more complicated , Once threw us another genuine curveball . On second thought , `` curveball '' does n't seem emphatic enough . Let 's call it a genuine `` oh - my - God , holy - crap , did - they - seriously - just - say - what - I - think - they - said ? '' ball instead . '' She then added `` Okay , I 've made my point . Sense of history repeating aside , though , `` Think Lovely Thoughts '' really was full of surprises , thanks particularly to the fairyback that introduced us to a young , adorably big - eyed Rumpelstiltskin -- back in the days when he was still being cared for by his ne'er - do - well dad , whose name is either Malcolm or Colin . '' The latter referring the character name that was a source of confusion in the casting credits before its air date . Christine Orlando of TV Fanatic also gave the episode a positive review , rating it a 4.5 out of 5 , noting Rumpelstiltskin 's subplot , saying `` the revelation that Peter Pan was actually Rumpel 's father totally floored me . It ranked up there with watching The Empire Strikes Back when I was 9 . I never saw it coming . '' Andrea Reiher of Zap2it also commented positively on the episode , noting Marilyn Manson 's role , saying he `` was awesome as the voice of the Shadow -- super creepy and menacing . '' Gwen Ihnat of The A.V. Club graded the episode a B , mostly directed at Jared S Gilmore 's performance in the episode : `` Almost from the very beginning , Henry has been Once Upon A Time 's sore spot . Some blame has been aimed at poor Jared S. Gilmore 's acting abilities , but let 's face it , Olivier himself could n't carry what the Henry character has had to endure . '' Liane Bonin Starr of HitFix gave the episode a mixed review , saying `` Things are now at their darkest , but somehow this in - between episode was still frustrating . Rumple was dismissed too quickly , Wendy spat out some exposition and then receded into the background , and Henry 's bad decision did n't feel particularly well - played . I realize that Henry needed to commit fully to Pan , but I did n't feel Pan 's case was ever entirely convincing -- not for a kid who only recently found his `` real '' parents . I guess Henry , being the good kid that he is , just wanted to do the right thing -- even as his parents had tiny heart attacks watching him do it . I bet he 's getting grounded when they all get back to Storybrooke ! '' Gwen Orel of the Wall Street Journal called Rumpelstiltskin 's subplot `` by far the most unsettling backstory yet . '' References ( edit ) Jump up ^ `` Shows A -- Z -- once upon a time on abc '' . The Futon Critic . Retrieved 17 November 2013 . Jump up ^ `` Marilyn Manson Joining ' Once Upon a Time ' Cast '' . Rolling Stone . Jump up ^ `` Stephen Lord Cast in Fatherly Role on Once Upon a Time '' . TV Fanatic . October 21 , 2013 . Jump up ^ DarkUFO . `` Once Upon a Time - Episode 3.08 - Flashback Details '' . Spoiler TV . Retrieved September 11 , 2013 . Jump up ^ Peter Pan 's Identity Revealed ! 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Club . Retrieved 17 November 2013 . Jump up ^ Starr , Liane Bonin ( 17 November 2013 ) . `` ' Once Upon A Time ' recap : Will Mr. Gold be the one to take down Pan ? '' . HitFix . Retrieved 17 November 2013 . Jump up ^ Orel , Gwen ( 17 November 2013 ) . `` ' Once Upon a Time ' Recap , Season 3 , Episode 8 , ' Think Lovely Thoughts ' '' . Wall Street Journal . Retrieved 17 November 2013 . External links ( edit ) `` Think Lovely Thoughts '' on IMDb `` Think Lovely Thoughts '' at TV.com <Th_colspan="2"> ( hide ) Once Upon a Time episodes Season 1 `` Pilot '' `` The Thing You Love Most '' `` Snow Falls '' `` The Price of Gold '' `` That Still Small Voice '' `` The Shepherd '' `` The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter '' `` Desperate Souls '' `` True North '' `` 7 : 15 A.M. 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