Why is this much more expensive than creative zen vision w Please can anyone tell me why is this product (creative zen vision) much more expensive than the w version, although it has a significantly bigger screen ( and its widescreen also) please can anyone tell me why is this, does it have a feature that the other doesnt or something like that? Why is this much more expensive than creative zen vision w Please can anyone tell me why is this product (creative zen vision) much more expensive than the w version, although it has a... » Read More Why is this much more expensive than creative zen vision w Please can anyone tell me why is this product (creative zen vision) much more expensive than the w version, although it has a significantly bigger screen ( and its widescreen also) please can anyone tell me why is this, does it have a feature that the other doesnt or something like that? « Show Less
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FYI, the Zen Vision 30GB does have the Outlook sync, tho I haven't tried it.
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It's got to be the screen resolution. The Vision is 640x480=307,200 pixels versus the W which is 480x272=130,560 pixels. Given it has 2.4 times as many pixels, it is probably a much more expensive screen. CNET reviews the vision as the best display they have seen on this size device.
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The bottom line is - if you're buying it for music and video - go for the W - if you'e buying it for photos and a quality screen - go for the non-M/non-W version.
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Thanks for the info! I was really curious to know what the difference was between the two and could never get an answer that made any sense, until now. I went ahead and ordered the W, and I'm very pleased so far.
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The original Zen Vision is superior to the Zen Vision W 30GB. The materials used for the W construction are of lesser quality, it is much larger (this is still a portable unit, Creative), and there is NO FM RECORDING (attention Sirius and XM users, fans of sports interviews, NPR listeners, etc...)... Music playback on both are the same. If you require massive storage, go with the 60GB W. If capacity isn't an issue, search out the original Zen Vision. It gives more options for music.
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They may release a 64GB flash version of zen x-fi in the near future, but don't bet on it. I find 32gb of great value and you can use SDHC expansion, wifi streaming from wifi server or PC for unlimited usage. I don't think Creative will release any HDD player anytime in the near future. But there could be a larger screen zen x-fi wifi version, that's my bet.
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I owned both versions, the first, without vr was still capable of great images because of it's small size and light weight, I don't know the price difference, but if it is wide, go for the early one!
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The video/photo output is very good on Windows 7. About as good as you are going to get without shelling out thousands of dollars....also, I am not sure how good of a photoshop wizard you may be..But I have used photoshop to "auto stitch" multiple images together into a super high resolution image..Works great and looks great...but keep in mind...nothing will ever compare to a eyepiece view...which is completely optical and not affected at all by any digital compressions....
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I bought both to try them out. I found the screen on the archos was washed out looking...no real blacks. The creative had a great screen. The sound on the archos was terrible! There is a constant buzzing or static sound present with good ear buds. The creative sounded better too.
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wtf is right. why is this going for almost 3x it's regular price? surely there is a new and improved version out there (which normally makes the price of the older model go DOWN). does anyone know?
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Greed...If you buy from the Wacom Company directly you can save hundreds of dollars..The thing is, is that Wacom has really strict shipping standards and if your outside of those standards your out of luck...Who ever is selling this is just gouging off the would be clients who can not purchase it directly from Wacom. I would be careful to, Wacom just had a recall for bad power ports on the companion style tablet as seen..and the warranty to have it replaced is only covered if you buy it from Wacom, thats to the best of my knowledge...so if by chance...these arent the fixed ones... you could be down 500$ + out of a warranty + a brick... Greed...If you buy from the Wacom Company directly you can save hundreds of dollars..The thing is, is that Wacom has really strict shipping standards and if your outside of those standards your out of luck...Who ever is selling this is just gouging off the would be clients who can not purchase it directly from Wacom. I would be careful to, Wacom just had a recall for bad power ports on the companion style tablet as seen..and the warranty to have it replaced is only covered if you buy it from Wacom, thats to the best of my knowledge...so if by chance...these arent the fixed ones... you could... » Read More Greed...If you buy from the Wacom Company directly you can save hundreds of dollars..The thing is, is that Wacom has really strict shipping standards and if your outside of those standards your out of luck...Who ever is selling this is just gouging off the would be clients who can not purchase it directly from Wacom. I would be careful to, Wacom just had a recall for bad power ports on the companion style tablet as seen..and the warranty to have it replaced is only covered if you buy it from Wacom, thats to the best of my knowledge...so if by chance...these arent the fixed ones... you could be down 500$ + out of a warranty + a brick... « Show Less
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I believe that the FTW edition is clocked higher than the SC version. Higher clock speed = bigger need for cooling = need for an additional fan. Also, the original price listed for the FTW edition was 289, while the SC edition was 269, so there was an original premium for the higher clock speed. My FTW is great.
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I agree with Andrew, I have both an Archos 604 and a Creative Zen, and the Archos is definitely washed out, (especially if you upgrade to the latest firmware) and the LCD screen has a slow refresh rate, which means there is some ghosting and motion blur, I was a little disppointed with the Archos screen, on the other hand the Creative Zen just has a more brighter and more color rich screen, and doesn't suffer from any ghosting like the Archos does. However, the Archos does have recording capabilities and has a cool design and kickstand. I am keeping the Archos for its recording capabilities(and cool design/menu system) and the Creative for its video quality and features. I agree with Andrew, I have both an Archos 604 and a Creative Zen, and the Archos is definitely washed out, (especially if you upgrade to the latest firmware) and the LCD screen has a slow refresh rate, which means there is some ghosting and motion blur, I was a little disppointed with the Archos screen, on the other hand the Creative Zen just has a more brighter and more color rich screen, and doesn't suffer from any ghosting like the Archos does. However, the Archos does have recording capabilities and has a cool design and kickstand. I am keeping the Archos for its recording... » Read More I agree with Andrew, I have both an Archos 604 and a Creative Zen, and the Archos is definitely washed out, (especially if you upgrade to the latest firmware) and the LCD screen has a slow refresh rate, which means there is some ghosting and motion blur, I was a little disppointed with the Archos screen, on the other hand the Creative Zen just has a more brighter and more color rich screen, and doesn't suffer from any ghosting like the Archos does. However, the Archos does have recording capabilities and has a cool design and kickstand. I am keeping the Archos for its recording capabilities(and cool design/menu system) and the Creative for its video quality and features. « Show Less
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I went today to look at HDtv's. I saw both the 46XBR4 and the 3000W and another 3000? Sony. All I can say is that by far the XBR4 was crisper and brighter, it looked more like reality. They had ESPN-HD feed on from Direct-TV. Is the difference worth the price, that's something you have to decide. Go look at them, I saw them at CC. I actually spent a good hour in a recliner they had setup and just watched the 46XBR4 comparing it to the sets around it. This is the one I'm getting, it was simply the best picture constantly, even better than models bigger in size with 1080p. It really stood out in the finer details when next to the other sets. I went today to look at HDtv's. I saw both the 46XBR4 and the 3000W and another 3000? Sony. All I can say is that by far the XBR4 was crisper and brighter, it looked more like reality. They had ESPN-HD feed on from Direct-TV. Is the difference worth the price, that's something you have to decide. Go look at them, I saw them at CC. I actually spent a good hour in a recliner they had setup and just watched the 46XBR4 comparing it to the sets around it. This is the one I'm getting, it was simply the best picture constantly, even better than models bigger in size with 1080p. It really stood out... » Read More I went today to look at HDtv's. I saw both the 46XBR4 and the 3000W and another 3000? Sony. All I can say is that by far the XBR4 was crisper and brighter, it looked more like reality. They had ESPN-HD feed on from Direct-TV. Is the difference worth the price, that's something you have to decide. Go look at them, I saw them at CC. I actually spent a good hour in a recliner they had setup and just watched the 46XBR4 comparing it to the sets around it. This is the one I'm getting, it was simply the best picture constantly, even better than models bigger in size with 1080p. It really stood out in the finer details when next to the other sets. « Show Less
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yea, i've been debating over w and m as well, but from reviews, didnt some people say that the zen w was laggy?
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If you look on The zxox web page you will see the technical differences. However, practically, the simple answer is it is bigger. With the larger tv's it provides a stable base with absolutely incredible sound and clarity. Try it, you will be impressed. Trust me.
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@ Ronnie Dale Frost: What do I think? I've already pre-ordered one! Yes, $5,200 is a bit steep, but I will sell my current D3 body (mint condition, should fetch $3,200 - $3,700) and use those proceeds to offset the purchase price. I want and need the extra 1-2 stops this new extended ISO range will provide. Regarding the 720P-only video, while the omission of 1080P seems both inexplicable and ridiculously short-sighted (given what is readily available elsewhere, and for far less money), it's not a dealbreaker for me--and that comment is all the more interesting when you factor in that I am an independent filmmaker. Nope, for filmmaking, I want a REAL video camera/camcorder, designed for filmmaking from top to bottom. The Canon 5D Mark II, for example--and despite that whole very impressive Laforet short--is NOT a camera I would even consider using for indie filmmaking.
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Although I only own the white version I am pretty sure that the internals are identical. The price differences are a fine example of marketing in action; the more popular item (=higher demand) is priced higher or in simple terms: you take what you can get. By the way, the prices are also different in Germany where we live half of the year. Prices are much higher there and black is the cheapest version because customer preferences differ from the US.
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Got this reply from creative this week.... seem like the product is getting delayed a bit..."With regards to your enquiry, the Creative Zen 16GB is expected to be available in November at $249. However as we do not have any infomation on the exact date of availablility, I would recommend that you check back at our online store at http://us.creative.com/shop/shopcategory.asp?category=213&and you can click on the Notify Me button to drop in your email address in order to receive a notification when stock has arrived."
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note: this is not an answer, but a elaboration of the original query... ---- having arrive at this product's link the same way, i have exactly the same question :) both are sold by baiklov, but the predecessor(?) sells for $23.90 where this model for $38.50. both claim 720p capability with otherwise very similar features & accessories. based on what little product detail (not even a user manual for prepurchase perusal??) available on
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Yeah, Amazon's got this info really messed up...I can't figure out what the difference is between this model and one $40 cheaper, as apparently they're both Atoms with 2GB and 64GB storage. The price difference would make sense if one of them had more storage (or SOMETHING), but I can't figure out what the difference is.