text: You are absolutely right, Grocho.  Ordain both mean and women as ministers and the gender distinctions remain perfectly intact.  Ordain men in ministry but refuse to ordain women in ministry and you have discrimination, not distinction, in the church.  
  
  For those who appeal to Paul, Paul openly discriminates and justifies his discrimination by creation order and by which gender sinned first.  In fact, in Genesis, which Paul cites, the Creator did not discriminate and did not dispute either gender's assertion that the Creator was responsible for their nakedness.  
  
  Genesis is written to introduce Monotheism using as metaphor the social construct at the time of Moses.  Society was a patriarchy, women were chattle, and slavery was an accepted economic component.
  
  The Bible never describes an ideal society.  But it didn't need to for Christianity to rise above patriarchy, women as chattle, and slavery.  
  
  Looking up, not back, is still the path ahead for Christians, it feels like.