text: Yet, my comments are specifically directed at the matter of needed dialogue.  In the Catholic Church, dialogue is not a real option because the hierarchy in the past and present have made it impossible.  It will take a very powerful, Church-wide response to blast a door or window open in the Vatican to have any dialogue with the laity even start.  I know all about the withholding of donations to the Church in general, and of redirection of them (my religious community has even benefitted from that) to specific church agencies/programs, and I also know how that has not helped one bit in getting the bishops to talk with the rest of the Church.  You know that - but seem content to leave it there and resort to punishment.  For those of us who choose to stay and continue to push for a truly universal Church of all he baptized, there is only one way to create the foundation for it: talk.