text: You lost me with your second paragraph.   The errors of Vatican I?
  
  What you've said clarifies what I alluded to earlier in another comment:   Many of those who like "smells and bells" and chant are just as distant from real Catholicism as the "liberal side" is.  
  
  Christ founded the Catholic Church on the Rock which is Peter.   Christ prayed for Peter that Peter's Faith would fail not.   Peter became the first pope after the Resurrection, when Christ told Peter to Feed His Sheep.  
  
  Vatican I, as well as any ecumenical council confirmed by a pope, cannot contain error when it teaches on faith or morals solemnly to the universal Church.   
  
  Numerous popes (such as Eugene IV) have taught ex cathedra that there is no salvation outside the Church.   Almost no one assents to this today.  Even groups like SSPX, SSPV, and CMRI reject this Dogma.  
  
  With most liturgical conservatives today, there is no real Faith:   just a bunch of incense and fancy chasubles with no solid Faith underneath.