text: Regarding: "...as long as Roman Catholics are not even supposed to speak to one another about ordaining women..."
  - Yes, that is the ideal -- nothing to see, nothing to talk about.
  - However catholics in union and communion with the church in rome can talk about the actual decision to suppress the discussion, and JPII's decision to reserve ordination only to humans who are males for Jesus is a male.
  - In discussing these, no doubt the church will learn that a mistake was made by JPII and by those who would not ordain humans who are female.
  - From the discussion that limiting the presbyterate and episcopacy to humans who are males is a mistake, the discussion of ordaining humans who are female will flow from and continue in the church.