text: I don't converse with Pandy because he/she is pandering to the reactionary elements in the church.  She eschews important facts and asks others to "Prove it."   Well as a seminarian, I disappointed other seminarians and priests by not agreeing to have sex with them.  Three college girls told me of their affairs with seminarians and priests.  In one of my Parishes, an assistant pastor committed consensual statutory rape on a 16 year old girl that got pregnant.  He then arranged for her abortion.  When the young girl sued him a few years later and obtained a multimillion dollar out of court settlement, The chancellor of the Orange County California Diocese  had the egotistic nerve to say to the local newspaper that this girl was evil and probably going to hell because of all the scandal that SHE caused the church.  The priest, later defrocked, had gone on to become a pastor of a rather well to do parish.  Yes, many of us have seen it all first hand D. Whitewolf and I are only 2....