text: Gary - I have had a discussion with you about "religion and spirituality" before, Christians believe God is the creator of morality (which includes right and wrong etc.), without that one falls into a situation of moral relativism that will devolve into nihilism and societal chaos, as we see society heading into now. You have judged Trump to be a sleazeball (my paraphrase), but have no moral basis to make that judgement other than your own opinion. "Religion" cannot and never will be a "private" matter as true Conversion as described in the Bible creates a new person who is born of the spirit, in addition to the flesh. The reason you and Icon cannot understand this is because you are not born of the spirit and unable to comprehend what we(including Agirl) are describing. I hope this helps. Why did Busch win the election in 2000 ? Because he openly spoke to those who were born of the spirit, I have my differences with him so don't bother with the critical analysis of him.