text: I know of the "council estates". South west London -near Dartford?
  I have attended CoE Masses.  Midnight Mass at Crouch End one Christmas was more "Catholic" than the Catholics. The degree of incense almost drove me from the old church. 
  It seems that the CofE I have been exposed to have managed to be liturgically traditional and socially hospitable and pastoral, without the clericalism we experience with "traditionalist" catholicism.  Do I have a point?