text: The fact is that for LGBT couples who choose to marry, it has nothing to do with the Catholic Church.  Those couples, and the vast majority of those communities, including those who may have been raised as Catholics, have long since left the Church.  Why wouldn't they?  It's just like with African-American Catholics in this country, we never did retain a decent number of black members.  Same-sex marriage is a civil matter, and LGBT couples are really just fine that it has no connection to any Church, particularly the RC and Orthodox.  So, it seems your points are moot, TomQuinn.