text: I know Humanae Vitae. It is another magisterial piece of tripe. You will notice, for example, that the argument used is "natural law", which I have described as sometimes meaning "this is my personal opinion, for which I do not give actual support". Well, in the case of HV, this is one of those times.
  
  Pope Paul, whose sole position outside of the curia before becoming pope, was Archbishop of Milan, simply had no clue about the place of sex in marriage. 
  
  You are once again taking Adolf Eichmann as your role model, and are supporting it without question, like the good unthinking automaton you believe Catholics should be.
  
  Marty, I do not know why you think you know more than I do. You consistently show that you don't. Hubris on your part, I suppose. To go along with the acedia you assume when it comes to accepting what others tell you with regard to moral decisions.