text: Kari, I am not taking it literally. I am an agnostic and a None. I'm just writing about what the Bible says about Judas and forgiveness. What is amazing is that you constantly parrot supposed 'facts' without questioning. We don't know which book of the Gospel was written first or when the books were first written. The Sower's Sevens number patterns suggest the four books had a single provenance at some point in time, as I have mentioned to you before, but you won't look at probabilities, and want absolute proof. Well, you don't have absolute proof either. Jesus (if he existed) was a first-century Jew and did not think of himself as a 'Bridegroom' (term per Pagan tradition), nor as a human sacrifice. Jesus would have known that Yahweh rejected human sacrifice and would never accept it. Much of the New Testament is parody and irony. Jesus reportedly said someday people will "worship in spirit" -- could that mean other than with gender roles and with priests and sacrifices (like Pagans)?