Well, I just wonder if the TMT would actually be built, at either location, considering what is happening apparently unnoticed in the hearings. Due process is one thing. Another thing is the technical reality that another existing tele is being modified to tell the world whether or not alien life exists out there. How? Via for the first time discerning the presence of artificial light. Yes, a light bulb's light, magnified, of course. Artificial light has to be "man" made. I believe it is being added to the Subaru tele? Has this been introduced into the hearings? There is a legal issue with whether or not a Chinese Hawaiian is accorded the same standing in law as an actual native Hawaiian. A native Hawaiian is not a "practitioner" as he or she is an actual native, not someone practicing as one.