Thank you for your service TradCath.

The Vietnam war posed serious moral issues.  McCarthy, part-owner of a silly approach to war --- absolute pacifism --- was not a serious voice.  Nor was most of the drug-induced war opposition very serious.  Recall "Steal This Book" and the take-over of offices at Columbia and elsewhere.  Unfortunately, serious discussion of war is even less possible today, as the left can't even figure out what to call a person born with male or female genitalia.  When liberals start sending us good men like Mondale again --- I might even settle for a McGovern --- we conservatives will listen.  Til then, they're a joke.