Too many clergy, too many men, too few women. I count maybe 8 women in the photo of 40 people, some of whom are vowed religious, not married women/mothers.  Until lay people - married lay people - are the majority voice in these events it will simply be more meaningless talk. The clergy here are trying, but not trying hard enough.  Fr. Keenan should have made sure that married laity were the majority, and that married women/mothers  women were 51% of the group.  The clergy have the power, so they need to be there. But they need to be there, as Bishop McElroy said, as learners - listening to the married laity. A wasted opportunity.