T., you said elsewhere that these women were contradicting the teaching of the Church. Yes? The Church teaches no such thing, as this prohibition on the ordination of women is taught by an infinitesimal number in the Church (all blokes, unsurprisingly ); hence my use of the word 'some'. The Magisterium, comprising worldwide between 6000 and 7000 men, is not the Church, and every time you misapply the word 'Church' to these men, you are repeating an untruth and denying the teaching of an ecumenical council.

Here you go again. No, you do not 'accept the perennial teaching of the Church', but that of a relatively very small number of old men presumptious enough to exclude the voice of the Spirit of about half the members of the People of God. Now THIS is the Church. And when I use the word 'Church' , this is what I mean; you, however, repeatedly do not. Hence my use of the phrase 'incorrigible conservative'.