If anything brings gay couples back to the Chruch, it will be the children they already have and their families who insist that they are entitled to celebrate their sacramental love in the Church, and not just privately in a wedding blessing in the rectory or sacristy.

The Catholic Church breaking up into a more Orthodox model of continental, national or linquistic partriarchies will bring progress to at least some places, probably starting here, on gay marriage and female ordination.

Eboni Marshall Turman is not totally acurate. Our clergy is not full of heterosexuals. They left and we are left with celibate gays convinced that this is the only place left for them to go, non-celibate gays who could easily marry in the new regime and asexuals for whom celibacy is comfortable because it is natural for them. The problems is that their teachings on chastity are not natural for the rest of us. A sexuality that glorifies their natures is just not useful to most us. They need to be outed.