Let us not forget "Cafeteria Catholics" - of course, according to the "conservative"  accusers, the lunch crowd only dissented over things which I have heard referred to as "pe*v*c issues". The imaginings of the hierarchical guys as to what goes on in rooms intended for slumber boggles the mind, and anyone who lives in the real world knows the times in which we live. A younger woman friend of mine I tell "You're me, 25 years ago" - husband, kids, jobs, commutes, lost childcare...I told her that I thought our hierarchy thinks we layfolks are having waaay too much fun in that chamber for slumber." Her response, "Are you kidding me? I'd settle for fifteen minutes of private conversation. " Maybe we should start some kind of program where a priest cannot be ordained until he has walked a mile in married people's moccasins...then he might have something with which to counsel those hanging on by the fingernails besides "BUT THE CHURCH SAYS" - not too helpful.