Yes, and Jimmy Carter has choice words about Israel's illegal occupation in the Holy Land, of Palestinian Arab land, CHRISTIAN and Muslim. Episcopal Arch Bishop Desmond a Tutu, who spoke at St.,Andrews a few years ago, compared Israel's Apartheid as worse than what he experience in South Africa. I think of the obscene wall that surrounds Bethlehem. The obscene check points that even Jesus couldn't pass today. Joseph and Mary would not be able to travel from Nazereth to Bethlehem today just as PALESTINIANS are denied freedom and justice. Yet this "CHRISTIAN Church" 's focus is who can marry who. So absurd!