jangm, I also find myself in constant disagreement with cons on these boards but you can't become unbalanced like they are.......Trudeau wears this equally if not more so than Harper because he did the official sign off on it; whereas under Harper the idea and negotiations were born.   You can make fun of Harper having the audacity to believe he is Christian while promoting war and bloodshed...but Trudeau is just a  guilty and lacks the cajones of Chretien or his father.