But the "sensus fldelium" "listening sessions" whatever else--is not going to lead to a liberal, secular, atheistic humanistic Church. That is what I am trying to say. The Catholic Church can do everything you want--and it will still be Catholic.  It will still teach what it currently teaches. Abortion, gay marriage, birth control, homosexuality, sex outside of marriage, divorce and remarriage will all still be condemned and women will still not be ordained.  

As long as you understand that...