I'm sure that Pastor Ogden is making a positive difference in the Walla Walla University Church.  Perhaps I'm reading into the title of her comments, "Hope Never Dies" more than she intended.  But, in the end, what exactly do we need to "Hope" for?  Her list is an excellent set of suggestions.  The last part of the last one is very interesting:  "Allow the people of your church to meet Christ before they meet criticism and strict rules. Humility will go much farther for the kingdom than any ‘club rules’."  This is all to the good.  But is it realistic in the "typical" Adventist Church to expect that type of environment to flourish?  Pastor Ogden makes sure that it exists at the Walla Walla University Church.  I know that it exists at the La Sierra University Church, and at the Loma Linda University Church.  But when students go back to their home churches, what do they typically find?  What does the data tell us?