I am listening now - it is 6:28 Eastern.  It is valuable to listen to this testimony, to watch the person speaking, to hear different points of view, and especially to hear the questions asked and answered.  The Royal Commission is dealing with two issues right now which are "tricky":  1) Factors that may have contributed to the occurrence of child sexual abuse at Catholic Church institutions in Australia; 2) Factors that may have affected the institutional response of Catholic Church authorities in Australia to child sexual abuse.  

These are "tricky" because they get into issues of hierarchical structure, clericalism, internal church law, the sacrament of reconciliation.  How free is a religious institution in a society with a secular government, especially when it comes to compliance with civil law that protects the welfare of children?  

The Church failed badly, everywhere.  Does any government anywhere have a right to criticize or even require changes? How far can they go?