Joe Rinehart wrote: "Groveling did not work with Obama lets see how he does against a man."
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So Joe, you're claiming that Mike Pence is more of a man than Barack Obama?  I'd love to hear the basis of your argument.  I think Mike Pence, who is an evangelical Christian, and who disparages the rights of women, LBGT citizens, and atheists - both by his words and by failed legal attempts to demean/dominate them, is not someone to look up to.  How is Pence a "man" and Obama something else?