Tri, just what are those Christian values that have been debased?  I'm not being facetious.  I really am interested in what you see as the Christian values you were taught prior to Vatican II.  What I remember is an abject fear of a judgmental god and obedience, obedience, obedience....in that order.  Even attending Mass was an act of obedience intended to hold off the wrath of god, not an invitation to receive and ponder the meaning of the Eucharist.