And while we are at it....let's take a look at those "other" social work professionals in the Bay Area. All of whom are well educated, professionally competent, and competing for those very same federal and other grant dollars!

It's a myth, I think to suggest that any one of these agencies is better than the others...generally the same staff moves fluidly to wherever the grant money is....that's the predictor.

It isint the religious OR independent non profit status that dictates agency  excellence  ....all these guys are good...I never worked with anyone in any agency that I didn't respect....thoroughly remarkable people....

Actually I learned a huge amount from a Protestant minister who headed up a segment of that agency....and later went on to run CROP (world hunger) we later served together on the California Coucil of Churches Bd!

My catholic charities gratitude is to the taxpayers....and the bishops should regularly acknowledge them! If honesty and gratitude are issues!