Thank you for an honest explanation of your (and presumably your compatriots') reason for participating on this openly Progressive forum.  I have long wondered why you collectively spend your time and energy in an environment you so vigorously oppose.  (I'm serious --thanks.)  

The problem I see with your approach, however, is that a few of "you" still reference and live ONLY BY the pre-Vat II teachings, while most of the rest of us have been educated in and have embraced the updated EMPHASES of Vat II and beyond, as has the mainstream institutional Church.  Some of you do not admit the validity of Vat II at al, and others of you cling to pre-1960 Catholic culture.  Many of us have moved on, especially  in matters relating to conscience, obvious fatal flaws in both policies and praxis, and in imply living in THIS century, not the 16th, doctrinally, philosophically and scientifically.  

Thanks again, though, for your courteous explanation.