Thank you  for you response Beverly
“A open, honest discussion with a sense of safety, respect, and equality can develop true, loving, and merciful relationships.”..
I think that applies to inner circles, as in club culture, not out in the real world
A comment taken from another poster on the ACP Site, in regards to the laity
“They have long ago ceased to engage in any active way with the parish because of years and years of their voices being ignored, of slights and injustices and a lack of respect shown by the Church for adult thinking minds. A total lack of any structure for the engagement of all believers, in facilitating a real communion of hearts and minds, is responsible for this defeatist mentality. We need  more vibrant communities and we will only achieve them when there are proper democratic structures in place”
From my own experience if you have a complaint stone walling is the name of the game, as in lies and deception.
kevin your brother
In Christ