I'm sorry Pat, I'm even more unclear now.  Are you now saying that discipline is violence?  I don't disagree, provided we are using "violence" in the same context (I'm thinking of metaphysics).  I just want to make sure that terms are clear.
I would agree that fasting may be a metaphysical violence, but it is one prescribed and practiced by Jesus in the clear text of the Gospels.  Do you suggest that, in this case at least, we don't follow Jesus?