Agree - both MSW and Garnett have a tendency to argue for the *old* culture war battleground and act as if catholic values are tribal and even cultic.  Garnett's scoring makes little sense given his skewed bias - he had obviously made up his mind before the debate started.
Funny - at dotCommonweal, M. Boudway writes:
"Tim Kaine won the night on debater's points. This is partly because of his professional formation (for better and for worse, he sounded like an experienced litigator), and partly because he had the better points to make."
Both need to review what K. Briggs has just posted - highlights:
"As that establishment continues to lose sway in a more secular, pluralistic culture, those who were so accustomed to bossing everyone else around in the name of the Lord are in a foul mood. Their "rights" have allegedly been violated."  (e.g. Evangelical Right - close to a tribe or cult)