OK, Bill, it seems we agree there are Christians who are really good people and there are some who are really creeps.  Being a Christian does not guarantee you're a good person and not being one doesn't guarantee you're a bad person.  Frankly, from all I've read and seen, religiosity might be statistically irrelevant as it relates to morality in individual's behavior.  I'm an agnostic and haven't the foggiest idea if there's a god or not, so the concept is foreign to my moral code.  I simply try to follow the "Golden Rule"...do unto others as you'd have them do unto you... simple, secular and central to morality.  Gary Crum