Interesting response. The Eastern European countries largely had their governments imposed on them by foreigners. Germany, Italy and Spain otoh chose their governments in some way, like civil war, elections etc. Catholic participation in the selection may have been ill informed, or well informed, but in either case, they did participate in a way that led to support for open warfare, genocide and totalitarian governments. This was very different from the Eastern European situation.

Vatican II was called in the wake of that experience. Teaching Christ needed to be overhauled so that Catholics would resist the totalitarian, warring, genocidal mpulses in their midst. Hopefully that has happened.

In response to these assertions, you listed a number of evils that currently exist in those countries. I figured you wanted those things to be resisted by Catholics, as do I. That means there most be more reform, doesn't it? What we have done so far has not been enough? Sorry if I got that wrong.