Bill Kilgallon, a member of the PCPM, told the Royal Commission that one of the areas he would like researched is the extent to which non dismissal and retention within the monastic or clerical community affects recidivism. At the moment there is no evidence except its historical failure. Brother Payne, the Professional Standards Officer of the De La Salle Brothers, told the Royal Commission that even within a monastic community where supervision is arguably more effective than for a diocesan priest, it is an “is an extraordinarily difficult practical managerial operation,” and he was not satisfied that retaining them was a solution. Non dismissal smacks of the clericalism that was evident in the 1920s when the Vatican negotiated Concordats with sympathetic Catholic countries so that convicted priests would spend their sentences in monasteries and not jails. The Church now admits the victims have not been listened to. On this issue, the evidence is that nothing has changed.