Again, what's your point, please? You entered the thread by asking, I presume rhetorically, "Was Judas elected via the Holy Spirit?" I then reminded you that he was *chosen* by Christ (unanimous witness in the NT text: John, the Synoptic gospels, the book of Acts.) Now you inject another indirect and ambiguous point, in the process making it appear that you might be arguing with yourself. Please clarify just what it is you are trying to say.