Such a long, intense reaction needs a long intense discussion. I would love to sit down with Ivo and listen and talk (I am a Christian but the picture painted by Ivo does not fit me and many other christians at all). With one condition: the remark about him (by whom?) at the top of the article "He is seldom wrong" should be deleted. That attitude is not good for sincere discussion. I hope he is also a good listener. Henk Gous