"Among those who gathered to hear Trump's remarks at the convention, some were sympathetic to his approach to the Charlottesville controversy.

"He's not a very delicate guy. He never says things in a very delicate way," said Ed Riley, a retired Navy fighter pilot who began serving in 1970. "I never heard him ever endorse any of the far right.

"It always upsets me when the news says this was a white supremacist thing. It was not, it was nationalist – a white nationalist [thing]," Riley added."  

White supremacist, white nationalist, what's the difference?