Peter if I may reply to your post, do you know why black people will always vote ANC ? Even if you see them as liars. It is because there is running water, access to education if you work hard, electricity, food in the shops. It has done it's best in the present environment, worldwide comparing as well, this is a very young democracy, we cannot expect American government, that democracy has been in existence for 100's of years. They are doing fine, and the white monopoly capital in this country is racist as the narrative is that " blacks cant do anything." It's quite sad, why all this vitriol all of a sudden. The ANC are not liars, they have done very well to service 54 million people fairly, the National Party only serviced not even a quarter of that in 1994.