<On same sex marriage, their efforts accomplished nothing.>
I rarely disagree with you, Steven, but on this point, I do ... sort of.
I think the manner, tone and content of the bishops' (and of other leaders of the religious right) opposition to same sex marriage contributed to the advancement of same sex marriage. I think many good and decent people who otherwise didn't have a dog in this fight became supporters of same sex marriage because they did not and do not want to be associated with the arguments of the opponents.