Here's another one for you Keiran. I am sure you are aware of the Richard Wagner study which saw him harrassed out of the priesthood. His study involved in-depth interviews of 50 participants recruited through an ‘informal network of gay priests’ (Wagner 1981: 12). Of those 50, only 2 stated they were living celibate lives. Of the other 48, between them, they had an average of 226 sexual partners (Wagner 1981; citied in Sipe 1995). Now, do you think this level of sexual activity would have occurred before this period in history? It may have but I wonder. I'm not saying that the activity was abusive in any way but then again, none of the other people involved were interviewed so we'll never know - and that's always the problem here. I suppose St Peter Damien might have something to add, but the only people who seem to discuss him are the likes of Randy Engels of the gay conspiracy theory, where Marxist gays have been plotting for decades to bring down the Church, family and society. Hmm