Above, Rule and Raven says, "The real issue concerns the Magisterial authority of the Church and acknowledging her Divine right and responsibility to determine that certain controversies are settled, once and for all, and are closed to further debate e.g. contraception, abortion, divorce and remarriage, homosexuality, women's ordination." In other words, "I'm right, you're wrong, there's nothing to discuss." One cannot have a dialogue with somone holding that attitude.