@Michael Archer Re: discover they are gay is a false description of sexual confusion. Michael, I never mentioned sexual confusion. Being gay is not synonymous with being confused. I haven’t found those who identify with gay sexual orientation any less clear about it than heterosexuals are clear about their sexual orientation. Admittedly, some may well be confused regarding their sexual orientation.Resolving such confusion sounds like true torment to me. Your position as stated, is the default Church position. It is a rejection of anything that isn’t heterosexually normative. There is nothing voluntary about the celibacy you describe. My post challenged all of what supports your stance.