Oh, to be young again! I am young enough that I will live to see the last of these guys ordained in the chaos after the council but probably not so long to see the guys born in the John Paul II years ascend to the highest levels of leadership. Perhaps we will see some new ideas for revitalizing the clergy rise to gain consideration instead of rehashing the celibacy and women's ordination issues that have failed for 50 years now to gain acceptance. Mainline protestantism has demonstrated the ineffectiveness of such measures. I will maintain hope for some other notions for us to consider.