to encourage skilled self defense can not be emphasized enough.  this happened - national news - MSN - the video is outstanding . she knew what, where and how.   he  was creeping on her and she took the a -hole out, he was DOWN.  all in 20 seconds? almost the best part is, she continued to ride the elevator , with this guy crumpled in a corner,  like nothing had happened.   i know how disappointing this type of outcome makes you., O77,  but hey,  with all the creeps out there, i'm sure another story of a woman being victimized will come along and cheer you up.
  you creep on me - you will meet with opposition.  she should have just dropped to her knees and begged mercy from this guy , unh?
  O77 - reading the history of social change yet?  you should really struggle to get through 70's if you ever want to come across as anything but a Neanderthal in regards to women's rights.
  so yeah , he had one plan,  and she had another.  her's was a bit  better,  yes.. agree O77?