Wed Apr 19 04:34:45 UTC 2023

co/136590361.txt

@@ -1165,3 +1165,164 @@ arf
 A bigger picture of the R&C crossover pic has been found. Looks like it's going to be an Ultimate Rescue episode.
 --- 136722407
 Real Paw Patrol
+--- 136723426
+x
+--- 136723710
+>>136721357
+The only thing about this that I like is that it probably means things will also go the other way and PAW Patrol pups will likely show up in Rubble & Crew
+--- 136723723
+>>136723426
+Ew the pups don't have Xs
+--- 136723862
+>>136714966
+Movie is KINO
+--- 136724490
+very kino
+--- 136725784
+>>136725257
+It was a good special. Nice mini emotional arc for Skye too. Hopefully the movie won't just rehash it
+--- 136725870
+These lucky Jap kids. My autism would have absolutely loved these magazine-books.
+--- 136725957
+>>136725870
+Surely they have them in English too
+--- 136726111
+>>136725957
+From what I can google, English magazines don't really go in-depth.
+--- 136726929
+>>136725784
+You just love the Flapster I'm sure
+--- 136727017
+>>136723862
+QUINOA
+--- 136727350
+Claw is cuter than Chase by quite a margin
+--- 136727615
+Devastating POWER
+--- 136727753
+>>136727372
+--- 136727942
+>>136727615
+Butt power at that
+--- 136729988
+>>136727615
+Rubble's butt is stronger
+--- 136731848
+Looks like gray and green is a nice combination
+--- 136732620
+The Whoosh getting some fan art, lol.
+--- 136732624
+>>136590361 (OP)
+bark! bark!
+--- 136733624
+>>136727615
+Huh, I thought Marshall's version was posted before. Did it get deleted?
+--- 136734411
+>>136727350
+Claw also statistically causes more maulings than Chase.
+--- 136734529
+>>136731848
+Aww I like this
+>>136732620
+I remember ni_ drew him once before in a comic about absurd expectations for Marshall
+--- 136734558
+>>136733624
+What this display of precise control?>>136607850
+--- 136734704
+>>136731848
+This is the same artist who did thunder thighs giant Marshall right?
+--- 136734756
+>>136734704
+What, this thing? I don't think so
+--- 136734766
+>>136727615
+>chase is a confident power bottom while marshall is a shy top
+--- 136734788
+>>136734766
+Ew no no no
+--- 136734824
+>>136734756
+THICC
+--- 136734830
+>>136732620
+Lol I didn't know they translated his name. He's called Hyuunn in Japanese (meaning whoosh)
+--- 136734952
+>>136650325
+Huh this is really interesting
+--- 136734995
+>>136665712
+If there's some confusion, that screenshot is in Japanese. Though of course there is a Mandarin dub for PAW Patrol.
+--- 136735109
+>>136689095
+She also gets a unique fursuit style costume in the show for an action scene
+--- 136735390
+Tracker butt
+--- 136735417
+>>136735273
+Hot glue it
+--- 136735786
+PAW Patrol teaches the kiddies such valuable things
+--- 136735867
+>>136735786
+Yes, apparently it teaches that Dalmatians are bottoms.
+--- 136736432
+>>136734558
+Yeah, that.
+--- 136736467
+>>136734704
+https://twitter.com/KemonoIsYome
+--- 136737165
+>>136735390
+Carlos's favorite
+--- 136738021
+>>136737165
+Ntr
+--- 136738052
+>>136736467
+Oh so it was the same artist as the giant blob Marshall
+--- 136738371
+This pup needs to be held criminally liable. Who thought puppies driving big rigs was a good idea??
+--- 136738739
+Justice for Zuma
+--- 136740086
+>>136738052
+No, this is the artist for the giant Marshall.
+https://twitter.com/SaneDoggo/
+--- 136740516
+>>136740086
+Oh okay. Not my favorite but it's good that different kinds of artists are creating for the fandom
+--- 136741509
+When's the next new episode? Is it the one with Charger?
+--- 136741617
+>>136738371
+if i saw this as a child i would fear death for the very first time
+--- 136742884
+>>136738371
+No.
+--- 136742896
+>>136591792
+On tv
+--- 136743062
+>>136738371
+I agree but Marshall needs to be taken in as well for all the stupid shit he did.
+--- 136743864
+>>136732624
+Woof woof?
+--- 136744246
+>>136741509
+Yes, and it's in a few days. This weekend I think
+>>136741617
+That, but not this? >>136710992
+>>136743062
+Nah he often risks injuring himself and sometimes the other pups but I don't recall him endangering others during his job, especially not on the scale of this fuck up by Al that in real life would have meant a whole lot of deaths
+--- 136744277
+450 page thread for PAW Patrol, nice
+--- 136744313
+>>136744277
+*Post
+--- 136744328
+>>136744277
+The militarization of the police needs to stop.
+--- 136744390
+>>136744246
+Marshall set loose a ferris wheel. Twice.

co/136620766.txt

@@ -1536,3 +1536,76 @@ Yes, I think there was a whole series of images about Babs covering Cass and Ste
 --- 136721915
 >>136721429
 Cute and oddly sexual
+--- 136723256
+>>136720867
+not a fan.
+--- 136724012
+>>136721915
+babs is a gud mom
+--- 136724638
+>>136715630
+Damian has written tons of smutty fanfics where things heat up with Tatsu during patrol, and a meta one where Katana finds out about these fics and is immediately swayed by Damian's literary craft and then they sex recreating all the scenarios.
+--- 136725963
+Kek at Damian’s smutty fanfics
+--- 136728629
+>>136720867
+Can you post anymore of them?
+--- 136728990
+>>136728629
+No, I found the idea distasteful and still do. 
+
+Also the images don't seem to be on Psuede's deviant art or Psuede's NSFW DA page.
+--- 136730151
+>>136728990
+John Doe did most of the project IIRC
+--- 136731127
+>>136725963
+He should write about the devious their that tries to worm her way into his father's household.
+--- 136731226
+>>136730151
+Yeah, it's never a fetish I'd thought of, but it's pretty sexy.
+--- 136732053
+Those Damian fanfics are a riot. Whoever wrote those clearly knows their stuff, what with “stop” actually being Cassandra’s first uttered word, seething Alvin Draper, Damian’s crush on Katana and Steph…
+--- 136732436
+>>136730151
+Didnt he do them all?
+--- 136733490
+>>136732053
+A great anon.
+--- 136734163
+>>136713320
+Kek
+--- 136734797
+>>136620766 (OP)
+those lips
+--- 136735361
+cass ass
+--- 136735842
+>>136732436
+nah, Psu did some too
+--- 136736139
+>>136735361
+--- 136737341
+>>136736139
+Artist?
+--- 136738553
+>>136736139
+Bigger
+--- 136740289
+>>136716816
+How many?
+--- 136741992
+>>136717508
+Talia used to be a trad wife?
+--- 136742054
+>>136737341
+I commissioned the original piece by Cerebropodrido.
+--- 136742696
+>>136741992
+She was very much the villain's daughter who falls for the hero for a long time.
+--- 136743734
+>>136742054
+more comms?
+--- 136744648
+>>136742696
+It was a cool idea.

co/136639303.txt

@@ -982,13 +982,161 @@ the first time it was funny, the second time it was just awkward and unnecessary
 >>136719895
 They really needed to give him a love interest. Otherwise 
 >Implying implication with Anne
---- 136720067
-Children of the Spore was the best episode of the series
 --- 136721086
 >>136708848
 They let themselves in. They are like cockroaches
 --- 136721796
 >>136712749
 I there any nsfw if lady Olivia?
---- 136722447
->>136690610
+--- 136723369
+>>136723220
+I get the feeling this might be a cropped lewd
+--- 136724373
+>>136723338
+Ivy is pretty much out of everyone's radar. Even from sprig's. Except when the plot requires it.
+--- 136724943
+So many deleted posts in this thread
+--- 136724987
+What a slow and boring thread.
+--- 136725022
+>>136696978
+>Lolivia stays up 
+Kek
+--- 136725127
+>>136656694
+Medieval world she's almost too old. Besides he's just sired the next generation of legendary heroes.
+--- 136725226
+>>136724987
+>frog fags are slowly dying
+--- 136725231
+>>136719949
+This.
+Ivy literally only exists so nobody ships anne and sprig.
+If anything they shouldve stuck with maddie because shes an actual character rather than beeing sprig with 90% of his personality replaced with mommy issues
+--- 136726344
+>>136724943
+They hate funny things
+--- 136727805
+>>136727580
+They shouldn't have been posting cropped Polly lewds. Maddie's better anyway.
+--- 136728742
+>>136725231
+If they didn't want spranne shipping they shouldn't have made them so close in the first place. If 2 characters get that tight of a relationship shipping is unavoidable
+--- 136731320
+>>136730300
+Hot stuff
+--- 136731626
+Wonder how was life in Amphibia in their dark ages. Many of the monsters we saw are probably from other worlds. Imagine how brutal were ancient amphibians to deal with all these creatures before agriculture
+--- 136731829
+>>136730300
+Egad
+--- 136731854
+>>136639303 (OP)
+three cute girls as the main characters
+anons lust over a frog girl
+--- 136731931
+>>136731854
+Sounds based to me
+--- 136731983
+>>136731854
+>anon has 3 pieces of cake
+>anon complains about getting a 4th piece
+--- 136733848
+>>136725231
+We shall never know
+--- 136734401
+>>136707719
+This one is really cute. Source?
+--- 136734429
+Anne is for ________
+Sasha is for ________
+Marcy is for ________
+--- 136734432
+>>136731854
+Polly is a main character. Two of the three cute girls are not.
+--- 136734661
+>>136734429
+Sprig
+Grime
+Maddie
+--- 136735119
+>>136734429
+Anne is for Sprig
+Sasha is for Grime
+Marcy is for Getting used for the sexual gratification of any woman of any species
+--- 136735672
+Haven't been in a frog thread in a long while. Are the mods still keeping it clean? I'm scared to scroll up and look. I'm afraid I'll see some gay human shit.
+--- 136736096
+>>136734429
+Sprig
+Grime
+Blue Newt
+--- 136736240
+>>136735672
+They are specially hard on funny frogs threads yeah. Anyways cute heterosexual asian girls
+--- 136736260
+>>136736240
+where? I clearly see one homo there
+--- 136736304
+>>136736240
+>Hard on frog threads
+They never were, what are you talking about? I'm asking if they are hard on derailers with humans such as you.
+--- 136736321
+>>136736260
+That's your reflection, turn on your screen you dumb faggot
+--- 136736337
+>>136730300
+Polly and Pearl would be lifting buddies.
+--- 136736430
+>>136736304
+>they never were
+Well they were but I mean the new mods.
+--- 136736658
+>>136736321
+it was on, the homo was Marcy
+--- 136737114
+>>136736658
+Your name is Marcy? Damn, that's bad luck. Also, tits or GTFO
+--- 136737863
+>>136734432
+Polly had more screen time than Sasha or Marcy out together lmao
+--- 136738073
+>>136737114
+>>136737479
+You from Egypt, cause you seem to be in The Nile
+--- 136739121
+>>136735672
+>I'm scared to scroll up and look. I'm afraid I'll see some gay human shit.
+we manage to keep that shit out during the weekend but at last they found us
+--- 136740051
+>>136739121
+Cockroaches man. We should get a cat.
+--- 136740148
+My friend is watching Amphibia and he's up to True Colors, I'll be watching with him, should I let him see the warning at the start and the S3 intro at the end or should I skip them so he goes in blind and leaves on a cliffhanger
+--- 136740191
+>>136740148
+No warning. But it's very likely he is going to jump to start of S3 right after.
+--- 136740272
+>>136740191
+Yeah but it'll be at least a day before he sees S3E1, potentially more, I feel like that might leave more of an impact compared to seeing Marcy's fine 2 minutes later
+--- 136741017
+>>136740272
+If he doesn't go to watch se immediately after seen Marcy stabbed i don't think he is that much into cartoons
+--- 136742296
+>>136731854
+Of course we lust over the one that went around in nothing but overalls
+--- 136743678
+>>136736337
+How come only the muscle girls were allowed to have visible tits?
+--- 136743725
+>>136743678
+Cause otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell they are girls
+--- 136744344
+Sasha is cute and she loves dick more than pussy
+--- 136744491
+Where were you when Anne and Sasha kissed at The Beginning of The End episode?
+--- 136744665
+>>136734429
+Sprig
+Marcy
+Sasha

co/136640833.txt

@@ -1266,3 +1266,87 @@ Requesting the Pizza Piggies delivering to am especially bad customer- a cartoon
 --- 136722491
 >>136640833 (OP)
 Requesting Garfield as Nightwing's sidekick.
+--- 136724378
+>>136689783
+kek
+--- 136725571
+>>136719878
+first, Cock and ball torture (CBT) is a sexual activity involving the application of pain or constriction to the penis or testicles, you are talking about Snu-Snu
+second, Hey anon, I think you’ve got the wrong door. >>>/aco/ is six boards down.
+--- 136726665
+/r/ing the Supergirls doing the positions meme
+--- 136728366
+>>136690082
+Thank you So Much. You translated Marcie's Design seamlessly into a Pup Named Scooby-Doo. So much so that Tom Ruegger as well as the showrunners of Mystery Incorporated should see it. And if there's ever a new Pup named Scooby-Doo entry whether it's a TV series, movie or comic series you deserve to be involved with it.
+--- 136730019
+>>136647104
+For all the times I've drawn Zero, I've never actually thought about drawing Vera.
+--- 136731177
+>>136653915
+>Delphine Gorgon
+Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time
+--- 136731847
+Requesting Baby Yoda using his exo to have a punch-out bout with Kraang. 
+ They can either be in their standard exo-frames or in more of a Rockem-socke-em robot bodiy.
+--- 136734185
+>>136700422
+Meet really drawn anything with action happening. I know it's very stiff but it was still fun.
+--- 136735674
+Requesting Superman celebrating his 85th anniversary with Pretzels.
+--- 136736796
+Anyone know what happened to wargaz2783? Guy did a bunch of deliveries then vanished
+--- 136736926
+>>136705655
+Ben Tennyson challenging Kevin to a duel
+--- 136737008
+>>136736796
+He opened his eyes and saw how shit drawthreads are.
+--- 136737121
+>>136737008
+Real shame he left
+--- 136737186
+>>136640833 (OP)
+Requesting, more like OPs pic.
+--- 136738394
+>>136738212
+you ruined someone else thread. also what is up with you with gore stuffs?
+--- 136738544
+>>136649131
+Very good, But may I request a tail?
+--- 136739164
+>>136730019
+OP here! Just love the dialogue in this along with the style of it! Thanks!
+--- 136739579
+>>136736796
+He's probably doing paid commissions.
+--- 136739631
+>>136739579
+Good point
+--- 136741089
+Requesting a Bill version of the sad Yellow Guy pic in the middle.
+
+Optional:
+
+Make a depressed Bill based on the right pic too.
+--- 136741576
+>>136735674
+bump
+--- 136742548
+>>136736796
+He was on the illfated /vr/ drawthreads for a while.
+--- 136742624
+>>136742548
+/vr/ had a drawthread? What happened?
+--- 136743156
+Requesting a bikini-wearing Gadget chained up and honey dumped on her from above.
+--- 136743599
+>>136737186
+>>136743156
+lmao subtle and not desperate at all
+--- 136743774
+>>136742624
+very little traffic. They were cool though.
+--- 136743825
+>>136743774
+>no traffic
+Well that's tragic. Could have been great.

co/136645090.txt

@@ -935,3 +935,202 @@ so need a loveable nerd gf who will endlessly talk about their hobbies and inter
 --- 136722869
 >>136645090 (OP)
 Anne easily. I'm around the same age as her (Time Skip) so no issues there. I have enough in common with her both in interests and in personality that we would have plenty to bond over, enjoy doing together, and talk about. But also, different enough to where we'd have our own interests and things to do on our own the perfect mix between the two. She's an incredibly nice gal while also having a great and charming sense of humor. But she's also a bit of a clutz and can be a bit slow in endearing ways that are just irresistibly cute. She'd make for a great mother and the perfect wife, while also having plenty of fun while still at the girlfriend stage. She's incredibly hot but in a very classy girl next door kind of way. I could go on but she really is just the perfect girl, would make her my waifu for laifu.
+--- 136723044
+>>136722748
+Let's play along.
+
+I like to think that Entrapta doesn't have any preferred genre of music and just listens to whatever when working (and prefers ambient noises). I also listen to whatever when doing my work so I doubt music will ever come up.
+--- 136724031
+>>136722748
+I'm a fan of the stuff she plays/likes.
+i.e garage rock (or just rock in general desu)
+--- 136724921
+>>136707452
+Okay, where's the bad part?
+--- 136725457
+>>136707452
+I'm sorry but how is this a bad thing, the biggest negative I can see here is the fact that I'd have to take all the flak when her dumb attempts to keep her popularity blow up in her face, and honestly I'm content to take that if it helps keep her happy.
+--- 136725509
+>>136722748
+>Since we're talking about playlists, do you think you have similar music tastes with your waifu/husbando? Why or why not?
+I think that I do. I listen to a lot of punk, industrial music and metal (though my favourite is dark synthwave), which I think aligns with Jinx's tastes, since her own theme song, "Get Jinxed", is this hard rock/punk fusion with suitably edgy lyrics. 
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlJuwO0GDs [Embed]
+
+I've also noticed that her scenes in Arcane are sometimes accompanied by these harsh electronic riffs that remind me of industrial music.
+--- 136726483
+>>136645090 (OP)
+Many
+--- 136726863
+>>136648876
+Huzzah! A man of quality
+--- 136729038
+>>136722748
+Well, looking at the actual playlist she made, it's clear her taste is more on the basic side of things. Not like it's entirely devoid of good artists or anything, there's Fleetwood Yak (Mac) and Kanine (Kanye) West. But yeah, I am disinterested with most of those. Fortunately I listen to a LOT of different types of music. That means there must be something we both can like. I'd probably get her to listen to some synth-pop and art-pop. She'd love it.
+
+Also, Gwen/Zonebro. I got a little something for ya...
+--- 136729171
+>>136722748
+Professor Membrane strikes me as the type who would listen to ambience music or some kind of "meditation" music if he focuses on something for hours on end. I listen to some ambiance works by Aphex Twin but otherwise I think we would be somewhat different. If he's feeling energetic maybe something futuristic and techno-sounding? I think he wouldn't do that as often because it feels stereotypical with his lab... I also think he would like synthwave, but it feels like that's me projecting my tastes.
+--- 136729615
+>>136710085
+>>136709108
+Why thank you waifubros
+
+>>136722748
+For Zone-Tan, I’d definitely say so considering she seems to be into edgy indie rock music. In fact, almost half of the music in her playlist is actually music sung by her voice actress, Caxx
+
+For Gwenpool, I found out that one of her authors, Leah Williams actually made a playlist for her and it has such masterpieces on it as Tunak Tunak Run, and an 8-Bit remix of the Super Smash Bros theme song, so Gwenpool has 10/10 taste.
+
+>>136729038
+Oh hell yes, I can’t wait to see this mastapiece
+--- 136729664
+>>136703046
+I’m going to die alone, aren’t I?
+--- 136729883
+>>136729664
+No...
+--- 136730038
+>>136729615
+Here it is! Gwen as Jason and Zone as Freddy! Hope it was worth the wait.
+--- 136730082
+my husbando xavi
+--- 136730273
+>>136724921
+>>136725457
+Well for one she was willing to team up with Vexus just to fuck with her robot classmate
+--- 136732204
+bump
+--- 136732349
+>>136680171
+Fatherless behavior
+--- 136732376
+>>136730082
+Based taste
+>>136712677
+>things like that give personality to the character
+Right? Kevin really does have a mulitlayered personality
+>>136722748
+Please no, my hubby may have good taste in visual art but his music preference ain't it
+--- 136732809
+>>136722748
+I think I have a eclectic taste in music but what would a viking queen like?
+>metal, black metal, folk/dark folk, maybe punk-rock... and some pop when no one is near
+Yeah we have a good overlap.
+--- 136733485
+>>136730038
+I love it Judyanon. You’re such a great friend and I wish you all the best luck in the world.
+
+>>136729615
+I’ve now listened to more of Gwenpool’s musical taste and her playlist includes the Russian national anthem, the SpongeBob SquarePants theme song, and the muffin song (ASDF movie) so I can now say that my wife has a 20,000/10 musical taste.
+
+>>136732809
+She’d also like Viking metal. Bands like Manowar would be like chocolate to her.
+--- 136734325
+>>136733485
+>she likes ASDFMOVIE
+based
+--- 136735532
+Cordie is my no.1. Not just cause she's cute, but because she's the one waifu I could honestly see myself getting with. Cordie seems like the type of girl you'd take home, and whilst I'm a massive nerdy dork, I also have enough going on that I wouldn't drag her down. Aside from that, Cliffside seems like the type of world I'd thrive in. Being a nerdy Dipper type interested in journaling all the weird shit would mesh well with her bubbly yet crazy attitude and personality.
+
+The other waifus I'm interested in, aside from a few exceptions, would lean towards controlling, manipulative, and abusive behaviors unless I'm strong enough to stand on equal ground with them. Which, considering the type of women I'm into, would take some serious luck and/or MC powers to make happen.
+--- 136736009
+>>136722748
+Similar desu, we're both the "If it sounds good it's goin in the playlist" kind of people. My phone has over 4k MP3 files saved in it's SD card since I've had it for an extremely long time but we'd probably jam to the VGM or anime OST's the most
+--- 136736503
+>>136733485
+Thank you so much! I'm ngl, that drawing was one of the most complex and hardest drawings I ever made. And I've put 8 characters in one drawing before. But man it was very fun. I'm so happy to see you like it friend.
+--- 136737277
+>>136730273
+Understandable, Jenny was taking the spotlight away from her and Brit, drastic times call for drastic measures.
+--- 136737724
+I hate the world today...
+You're so good to me, I know, but I can't change.
+tried to tell you but you look at me like maybe I'm an angel underneath
+innocent and sweet...
+Yesterday, I cried.
+Must've been relieved to see the softer side
+I can understand how you'd be so confused
+I don't envy you.
+I'm a little bit of everything
+ALL ROLLED INTO ONE!
+I'M A BITCH
+I'M A LOVER
+I'M A CHILD
+I'M A MOTHER
+I'M A SINNER, I'M A SAINT!
+I DO NOT FEEL ASHAMED!
+--- 136737789
+>>136726863
+Same to you, my friendola
+--- 136739379
+>>136737724
+Pairing waifus with song lyrics? I like that idea.
+
+Means of escape
+I guess you that you probably hate me
+But I don't feel the same
+But there's no way to change my fate, right?
+I don't wanna go outside in the daylight
+I thought that you and I was always the same side
+But now this shit I keep hearing through the grape vine
+Just cut me open and feed me to the canines
+
+Have I become
+Someone so numb?
+Someone so dumb?
+Someone so stuck?
+Someone so fucked in the head?
+I wish I was dead right now
+--- 136740968
+>>136739379
+why do you associate those lyrics with her?
+--- 136742026
+>>136740968
+The song is "Someone" by Nascar Aloe, from his album American Wasteland. The lyrics seem to touch on the topics of betrayal, paranoia, self-loathing and acceptance of one's (doomed) fate. Those are all things Jinx experiences in Arcane. She believes she was betrayed by her sister and her adoptive father -- the people closest to her -- and that they are both planning to sell her out for their own benefit ("I thought that you and I was always the same side" / But now this shit I keep hearing through the grape vine"). Her upbringing under Silco left her unable to trust anyone, as they could be plotting against her. The self-loathing aspect comes from how self-aware she is of her worsening mental state ("Have I become [...] someone so fucked in the head?"); she comes to the conclusion that she just might be a "monster" after all, despite Silco's words to the contrary ("Jinx is perfect"). However, she ultimately accepts this, as there's no way to change the events that turned Powder into Jinx, and only wants for others (namely Vi) to accept that as well ("But there's no way to change my fate, right?").
+
+The entire album is basically "Jinx: The Album", in my opinion, but this song stuck out to me as being particularly "Jinx-esque", if that makes sense.
+--- 136742919
+>>136645333
+Ccuuttee
+--- 136743509
+>>136645090 (OP)
+I know I am far from her type but... I would try. I'd do everything I could.
+--- 136743529
+>>136743509
+That's AI generated eh? Not bad, I thought most were still pretty bad at imitating cartoon art styles.
+--- 136743622
+>>136743529
+That was a very early attempt, this one is far more recent.
+--- 136743640
+>>136743622
+If it weren't for the 3d dreidels for earrings, this will pass.
+--- 136743695
+>>136743640
+The ear-rings, the eyes, the strangeness of the hat, it would. It helps that SVTFOE has a very simple art style to work with.
+I am not the originator of this, I merely spread it. I enjoy her in all forms, even that made by computers.
+--- 136743781
+>>136743695
+How do you live with the fact that she's canonically married Eclipsa anon? Not saying that to provoke you, I know there's other waifuists out there who have fallen in love with characters that are married or are dead, I'm curious to see what you think about that.
+--- 136743852
+>>136743781
+I'm glad, actually. She has a family, she has someone who loves her, and she has peace. While the show at large may not have had such a great ending, for her and her husband and daughter? They are finally together again, and that makes me happy.
+That being said, I still like her. I tend to use her for little stories, she's just a fun character.
+--- 136743874
+>>136743852
+That's good to hear man, I might think the show's shat the bed, and don't like Star much now in light of the ending, but I don't have anything against the rest of the characters from the setting, I hope you'll be happy with her for decades to come.
+--- 136743977
+>>136743874
+I hope so as well, with all my little stories and all my little drawings. I'm still working on one, but I can't for the life of me finish it. I don't know whats stopping me.
+--- 136744287
+I wanna marry Kim Pine!
+--- 136744441
+Hmm, toss me an idea that I could try and squeeze 'clipsa in tomorrow. I'll see if I can get to it.
+--- 136744458
+>>136744287
+And I wanna marry Elsa! There's something about Northern girls, I guess
+--- 136744516
+>>136729664
+Only if you hide yourself from the world Anon, your amazing. Don’t be like those people who wait for a partner to be magically conjured right in front of them and complain when it doesn’t happen, find your Spinel Anon. We’re all going to make it.
+--- 136744585
+>>136744516
+Or you can be content with waiting and hoping you'll find the real Spinel in the afterlife or the next life, I know I don't want to date anyone who isn't Tiff no matter what happens, doesn't matter if there might be someone just like her in life, I only want the real Tiff.

co/136675115.txt

@@ -984,3 +984,240 @@ I'd still play it.
 >>136719384
 You sure?
 I don't think they've been in the same room together.
+--- 136723789
+>>136722650
+--- 136724299
+>>136691209
+>>136691290
+the homegirls get outshined by the new girls and rival knd squad.
+chocolate and red teeth are just way better female love interests and characters.
+404 is just a mascot icon.
+nobody even bothers to make fan art as she isn’t sexy and thats saying something considering they are all young.
+even the generic loli lovers don’t care about 404 as her design isn’t sexy enough.
+miss chocolate is godlike sorry i just had to say it and so is her red flared tomboy compatriot.
+only homegirl even cared about atleast fanart wise is the helloo nurse for obvious reasons.
+even the skunky scout girls are more interesting.
+l honestly im fine with this desu outside of the nurse romance with the other two just feels really ooc for the mc and drama inducing.
+unironically if they ever fully flesh out the miss supreme chocolates story then they can also use her to co opt and build a better story for the mechanic killing two birds with one stone seeing as how all their families are close friends with each other.
+again simply more proof that chocolate needs more tlc.
+--- 136725542
+>>136691290
+but I love 78...
+--- 136726014
+>>136677025
+I'm really glad anons are enjoying multiple elements of this game including the music but I just can't get into the soundtrack. I think it's the baseline, the sample sounds so obnoxious to me. No offense to the producer. Is it a particular era of nostalgia? Also did more people warm up to the music as development went on? I played over a year ago.
+--- 136726040
+>>136685326
+Where does he post these? I tried to look for his 202 one a while ago and just couldn't find it.
+--- 136726095
+>>136726014
+*Baseline dammit
+--- 136726507
+>>136707750
+There are two masturbation scenes and one is fully nude
+--- 136726560
+I feel like Numbuh 62 is just too good, he’s borderline superhuman. With all the stuff he’s capable of it’s hard to believe he’s not a celebrity in the KND like 274.
+--- 136726640
+>>136726560
+>With all the stuff he's capable of
+What has he actually done, though? He beat an Sector in a dare. He didn't even escape the Skunk Girls on his own or beat the weird Jojo Girl.
+
+I mean, he's very good, but KND has a lot of good people. Numbuh 1, Numbuh 5, 274, 362,
+--- 136726649
+>>136726560
+62 is ok, it's just that everyone else is fucking retarded
+--- 136726726
+>>136726560
+62 is definitely above average, but he’s also essentially a security guard and too laid back to seek attention for his work. Hard to be a celebrity security guard.
+--- 136726742
+>>136726014
+Baseline is what makes the music desu. Maybe because of the genisis sound font but I really enjoy it.
+--- 136726788
+>>136726640
+>Implying any one operative could beat Laura
+She solo’d Sector V every time she came across them in the show.
+--- 136726881
+>>136726560
+He's good, but he isn't all powerful. He just got beat by Laura in her Jojo transformation and if I remember correctly, he wasn't able to match Numbuh 34 in strength on his own. He's just a smart fighter who uses everything around him to his advantage.
+--- 136726983
+>>136712768
+>Betsy and Sandra making out with Anon at the same time
+Now that's a competition I'd want to see
+--- 136727022
+>>136726560
+>he’s borderline superhuman
+he hits 78 with all he has and it doesnt faze her
+he eventually wins but its clearly a struggle
+his fight with 34 is hilariously lopsided against his favor and he has to resort to experimental combat stims to win
+
+exfiltrating 404 from the skunky scouts is a difficult job for him and he gets captured and molested against his will
+and jojo girl soloes him no effort
+
+he is a very good operative, but all of his victories are struggles for him and he needed lots of help each time
+--- 136727264
+>>136726040
+Probably a private commission. A shame since I want to see other commissions like this.
+--- 136727332
+>>136726560
+62's greatest feat is carting a wagon with a hundred boxes of girl scout cookies on it and two sluts a couple miles on it, going up and down hills.
+Not a bad feat for the KND universe, but hardly praise worthy.
+--- 136727442
+>>136726881
+He was winning the 34 fight before eating the snack but it was close. It just got massively easier after he ate the snack.
+--- 136727490
+>>136727022
+>The smug look on 78’s face when he asks what she’s made of
+I believe in Angeline supremacy.
+--- 136728493
+>>136727022
+>>136727490
+If I got punched with someone's full power and was surprised I didn't even flinch, I'd be smug too.
+--- 136728607
+>>136728493
+78 is /fit/
+--- 136728699
+>>136713565
+Gave it a try, but ended up a bit older and off-model.
+--- 136728739
+>>136728493
+He was tired from the prior fights.
+--- 136728763
+>>136728699
+>bimbo shit
+Cringe and gay
+--- 136729001
+>>136728763
+Based bimbo hater
+--- 136729763
+>>136677143
+For me it’s the batster
+--- 136731034
+>>136728699
+>A bit
+--- 136732149
+>>136731736
+Cute
+--- 136733546
+>>136731736
+This is the first thing they will do during the slumber party.
+--- 136734457
+>>136733546
+Well, if that thot Betsy mdae out with 62, they have to up their game.
+--- 136734652
+>>136728699
+That's not... Quite what I had in mind, but I thank you for your drawing.
+--- 136734664
+Betsy is literally the perfect woman.
+--- 136734843
+>>136722650
+>>136723789
+-3 isn't wearing panties because she's evil and doesn't play by the rules, 3 isn't wearing panties because she's nice and wants to make some lucky boy's day.
+--- 136734886
+>>136728763
+>>136729001
+That isn't bimbo, that's whorecore, you ignorant plebs.
+--- 136734908
+>>136734886
+It’s cringe and gay
+--- 136735032
+86 is Scottish, right? Or Irish?
+--- 136735043
+>>136735032
+Irish. Her color scheme is literally the Irish flag.
+--- 136735061
+>>136735032
+She's supposed to be Irish, but the VA gave her a scottish accent.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSxpL_UG8I4 [Embed]
+--- 136735115
+>>136735043
+>>136735061
+Eh, they're both Gaelic.
+--- 136735136
+>>136735115
+One is superior, the other is Scottish.
+--- 136735559
+>>136735545
+--- 136735582
+>>136735559
+--- 136735606
+>>136735582
+--- 136735626
+>>136735606
+--- 136735649
+>>136735626
+--- 136735660
+>>136735649
+--- 136735677
+>>136735660
+End Transmission.
+--- 136736051
+Said I would draw Kuki, ended up with Eighty-Six. I 'unno, something just hit me more with her than Three.
+--- 136736604
+>>136713748
+Way to out yourself as a newfag
+--- 136737391
+>>136735677
+Do all KND comics have so much text, or is this one a secret plant by the adults to make kids read?
+--- 136737413
+>>136717036
+>Wally makes a much better girl than he does a boy because [mentally ill fanfiction]
+Laughing especially at the suggestion that women are not ever considered violent or whiny.
+--- 136737461
+>>136737413
+>universe literally has sex-changing beams
+>no-o-o muh retarded contemporary politics!!!1
+Oh fuck of.
+--- 136737467
+>>136693080
+>Maddie in S tier
+Explain yourself
+--- 136737514
+>>136737461
+No, he’s right. You’re a troon faggot.
+--- 136738735
+>>136717036
+As much as I would like him as a girl, I prefer him as a boy.
+--- 136739362
+>>136737467
+Maddie has a hammer. No other explanation needed.
+--- 136739685
+>>136738735
+But, what if she was a super-tomboy that would absolutely hate girly stuff? So Wally, but female?
+--- 136739929
+>>136739685
+what if you cut your dick off faggot
+--- 136740156
+The only thing Maddie deserves is some meat stuffed in her mouth.
+--- 136740355
+Sex with Kourtney
+--- 136740513
+When's the Lizzie update?
+--- 136740570
+>>136740513
+I hope never
+--- 136740658
+>>136740513
+Please keep that bitch as far away from this game as possible.
+--- 136741830
+>>136740684
+Anon is a chad for doing this.
+--- 136741867
+>>136709196
+I have a question. What is usually the factors that slows down in the production of the new acts?
+--- 136741936
+>>136740156
+I want to see more Maddie getting coached to be nice
+--- 136742225
+All the sketches from the old game were full of soul
+--- 136742448
+>>136733546
+They play spin the bottle.
+The bottle always lands on 62.
+--- 136742544
+>>136737467
+mean bitches get my dick hard
+--- 136743296
+>>136742225
+Blame tropic for burning bridges.
+--- 136744499
+Boomp

co/136685321.txt

@@ -766,3 +766,483 @@ Actually it's around 16:42
 --- 136722853
 >>136722817
 it's gonna be interesting who is in control now that Thomas has stepped down. What creative decisions will be made?
+--- 136722877
+>>136722848
+for me, 16:42 is Cat Noir cutting his wax clone in half to save LB
+--- 136722943
+>>136722805
+And here's the afterpic....
+--- 136723011
+>>136722877
+That's at 17:23
+--- 136723193
+>>136723011
+I guess I have a different vid.
+--- 136723209
+>>136722943
+lmao
+--- 136723312
+>>136702487
+i agree with this. season 3 was a weird season that never found its balance. while season 4 at least focused on the deteriorating relationship of ladybug and cat noir.
+
+Season 5 at least brought back the dynamic between the two.
+--- 136723450
+>>136723312
+Relationships are bond to deteriorate when they switch constellation.
+--- 136723525
+>>136723312
+season 3 was mostly focused on Marinette being ready to become the guardian and it focused so much on her and Fu(a bd character imo) rather than Adrien and the other members of the cast that I really got disinterested. There are some good episodes but to me, it's the worst season I'll share my ranking for that season here.
+--- 136723583
+>>136723525
+what really stands out here is the premiere of season 3 and the finale is right near the bottom. Chameleon was an episode that created so much salt in the fandom because of how shitty they made Lila as a character and the finale was just the drizzling shits. Looking back I have a few episodes higher than I'd like. Honestly, season 3 is not one I go back to rewatch.
+--- 136723667
+>>136723525
+>cat blank and oblivio
+Expected no less. But while at it, what was wrong with season 3 ending? For me it was fine. Not season 4 level, of course, but fine.
+--- 136723823
+>>136723667
+>>cat blank and oblivio
+I may have to move those down because I may have over rated them at the time. 
+
+The season 3 ending sucked for me because HM comes up with this master plan to use Chloe to control the other holders and use them as an army against LB+CN. However there is no reason to do so. He could just walk away with the biggest prize except for a couple of miraculous all to give Chloe someone who has always failed a chance. 
+
+The battle itself isn't as good as Season 2's battle because they essentially fight zombie versions of the holders with no emotion behind them. 
+
+HM tries to get to Fu during this time but it's unnecessary because they already found a book on him with how to repair the miraculous. 
+
+Fu imo has always been a shitty teacher. He never really taught maribug anything, she was just such a prodigy she pretty much figured it out on her own. Also he was never around for Adrien, would have been so cool for him to have a positive role model in his life but it's wasted potential. So when he gets his memory wiped I didn't really care. It's fitting that when Fu is being seen off by Marinette she's suppose to be crying in the scene but the animation didn't work out so well so I missed it and it seemed like marinette wasn't really that sad at all. 
+
+There were probably more reasons but those are the ones I came up with now. I'd have to watch again to understand more of what i liked or didn't like but those are my thoughts from what I remember.
+--- 136723923
+>>136723823
+I mean HM has always been the weakest part aside from a few moments just from a lack of 'realism'. Like realistically any functionating adult should have kicked ladybuig and cat noirs asses easily. But from a show perspective its fine. And I don't hate that list from season 3 because quite frankly the more memorable episodes are those at the top
+--- 136723949
+>>136723923
+yea that's true. Though at that moment I just couldn't really believe they were really doing it. I was a huge chloefag at the time didn't want her to turn heel again, so that added to my bitterness.
+--- 136723994
+>>136723949
+given all the screen time they gave Chloe the fact that they just abandoned that whole plotline of redemption (because its was there) was 'utterly ridiculous'
+--- 136724020
+>>136723994
+yea her stuff in season 2 was really great. Though I've come to terms with the story they are telling with her. Some people don't want help or redemption so they continue to be just shitty. I just wish they told it better and didn't ram Zoe down my throat to be like omg look how great she is and look at how shit zoe is.
+--- 136724216
+so what is the timeline of the episodes released for the English dub for season 5. I've seen Episode 9 on youtube. but cant find any of the new epiodes in english on any streaming site. Are they even out?
+--- 136724228
+>>136707592
+ZAG has contract with a separate production company to make the live action movie, so it is unlikely to be swept under any rug.
+--- 136724236
+>>136724216
+miraculous.to should have them 
+>>136724228
+which one?
+--- 136724255
+>>136724236
+you legend thank you (for the recent episodes link)
+--- 136724320
+>>136724255
+If you wanna watch in order don't go past 514. 515 is premeiring this Sunday 5 days away.
+--- 136724523
+>>136710564
+>>136717689
+Don't reply me, troon.
+--- 136724856
+>>136723994
+It's clear the staff entirely weren't on the same page with how Chloe was supposed to be treated, and once Zag's attention was elsewhere Astruc doubled full down on making her as unlikable as humanly possible. Like given how she's been treated in season 4 and especially 5 it's now mindblogging Marinette ever even dreamed of giving her a chance in the first place.
+--- 136724868
+>>136724228
+I think the problem is every time they start seriously planning it they realize just how badly having teen actors wearing latex spandex would go in real action and get cold feet.
+--- 136725005
+>>136724236
+>which one?
+Skydance MEdia
+https://deadline.com/2018/09/skydance-developing-live-action-adaptations-miraculous-tales-of-ladybug-cat-noir-tv-film-1202457890/amp/
+--- 136725052
+>>136723209
+Adrien is one lucky guy!
+--- 136725082
+>>136725005
+This was 5 years ago anon
+--- 136725090
+You're replying to posts made by two separate anons, faggot!
+--- 136725131
+>>136720165
+I didn't know Ladybug could read palms....
+--- 136725144
+>>136724856
+I wonder if he does actually go on to do astroboy and has less influence on the show if they ever try a redemption. Since he still oversees everything but doesn’t have full control.
+--- 136725152
+>>136725090
+?
+--- 136725183
+>>136725152
+Mistake on my part.
+I;m tired and not paying attention to what I'm doing.
+
+That post was a response to >>136724523
+
+The anon in question was responding to two different posts, and thought he was replying to the same anon.
+--- 136725205
+>>136725144
+Chloe's been there from the beginning, so I imagine that there will be some sort of redemption.
+
+It will involve Sabrina getting tired of being Chloe's door mat, and actually haviing Marinette teaching Chloe how to bake.
+--- 136725209
+>>136725144
+From what I get, he's even more control now. I wonder why Astruc hasn't voices his opinion on that matter, considering how he first talks and then thinks. I think the (supposedly) change in Chloe's behaviour was made around New York special, if we go by scenes that didn't make it. Perhaps it even has nothing to do with Astruc? Who knows, maybe he'll talk about it later when everything ends.
+--- 136725239
+>>136725209
+Bro this shit aint ending anytime soon lol. Especially if this movie does well.
+--- 136725434
+>>136691912
+I could fix Chloe with my dick
+--- 136725482
+>>136725082
+>This was 5 years ago anon
+Development can easily take more time than that. We also had a pandemic that killed cinema interest.
+--- 136725582
+>>136691476
+>I will not be pleasant while Lila is in the room!
+>I won't even be decent!
+>Adrian!
+>Fuck me on the table right now!
+--- 136725649
+>>136725434
+Forget it, Kim.
+Ondine would be a much better fuck, and she's practically throwing herself at you.
+Don't pass up a sure thing.
+--- 136725667
+>>136725582
+SEXO IS GO!
+(OK so it's not the cafeteria table, but still...)
+--- 136725764
+>>136725649
+No! I need that bratty blonde bouncing on my balls! She haunts my dreams and I need her thin legs wrapped around my torso as I pump her full of cum again and again! She's begging for a dicking and I volunteer myself as tribute!
+
+CHLOE SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
+--- 136725950
+>>136725764
+So she is a contortionist too?
+--- 136726530
+>>136725764
+No, dude.
+She is trouble.
+One time you tried to give her a Valentine's Day present, and she laughed at you, took an embarrassing picture of you, and posted it on the internet. Then Hawk Moth Akumatized you and you became Black Cupid, and cause a lot of unnecessary damage all around Paris.
+
+Or remember how Chloe tricked you into hurting Marinette, who actually liked you at one time, by convincing you to play a cruel joke on her by giving her a box of spiders, after she declared her love for you? The Monarch Akumatized you again as Dark Humor, and you almost lost Marinette and Adrien's friendship forever, but they forgave you, and so did Ondine.
+
+Trust me, you are nothing to Chloe. A nobody. Stick with Ondine. It is obvious that she is not only crazy about you, you both share the same interests. Chloe will hurt you again, which will, in turn, make you hurt your true friends again.
+
+Ondine is the one for you, Not Chloe.
+--- 136726546
+>>136725649
+Beach/swimsuit edition, when? Summer is pproacing, and there are obvious merchandising opportunities here.
+--- 136726570
+>>136726546
+I'm not sure this counts as a swimsuit, but I thought I'd post it anyway...
+--- 136726868
+>>136726546
+Until then, we still have Aquabug
+--- 136726884
+>>136726546
+Best I could do as far as swimsuits go
+--- 136727096
+>>136726570
+I am sure it would be a success on the beach. Highly visible, at least.
+--- 136728139
+>>136704520
+Too old
+--- 136728452
+>>136728139
+what?
+--- 136728833
+>>136726868
+I can see an Aquabug patterned wetsuit would sell, with matching gloves and boots, without being blatantly fetishistic.
+--- 136729251
+>>136725649
+>>136726530
+>>136726546
+>>136726868
+>>136726884
+We need a beach episode so bad bros
+--- 136729257
+>>136726530
+>Had a chance to become Syren's mer-mate, rule the oceans with her, and drown everything they didn't like
+>Only thinks about missing his movie
+Kim, you had a chance to have it all and you blew it.
+--- 136729425
+>>136729257
+He really is a dumbass lol
+--- 136729468
+CATBOY SEXO
+--- 136729694
+They have like 3 new Marinette dolls. One is her wearing the fox miraculous and the other is in the bunny miraculous. I wonder if they are planning to do that in the actual show at some point.
+--- 136730014
+>>136729694
+Unlikely. Based on the leaks, they're going to the other holders permanently and Marinette will no longer have access.
+--- 136730107
+>>136730014
+Bro they are just gunna get stolen again lol
+--- 136730574
+>>136726884
+woah, not ladybug patterned
+--- 136730807
+>>136730581
+You were calling?
+--- 136730859
+>>136730107
+They would have just let Lila take them all if they wanted them still out of play. Or have Su Han just take them all back to Tibet.
+--- 136731662
+>>136730807
+This is mildly disturbing
+--- 136732090
+>>136731662
+What do you mean?
+--- 136732265
+>>136730859
+The Zodiacs were a mistake. It should have just been the original seven in the box and the Rabbit as the super-secret eighth.
+--- 136733303
+>>136732265
+yea it'd be nice to build them up instead of giving them away like candy.
+--- 136733478
+>>136732090
+She looks diseased.
+--- 136733536
+>>136726530
+Don't care, not reading, I want brats! I CAN FIX HERRRRRRRRRRR
+--- 136734037
+>>136730574
+True. A bikini version with the pattern would be nice.
+--- 136734317
+I haven't watch the show since Chat Blanc. Has anything interesting happened?
+--- 136734408
+>>136734317
+Yes.
+--- 136734449
+had the dub caught up yet?
+--- 136734474
+>>136734449
+No.
+--- 136734550
+>>136734449
+Which dub
+--- 136734594
+>>136734037
+I just want the official models to get used in overwatch-tier pr0n webms.
+--- 136734735
+>>136734594
+Why not both?
+--- 136734775
+>>136734735
+Both. Both is good.
+--- 136734893
+>>136722767
+Perhaps this?
+--- 136734971
+>>136734893
+amazing how things have changed
+--- 136735246
+>>136728452
+You're responding to a /b/tard that got lost and ended up on /co/
+pay them no mind.
+--- 136735290
+Didn't watch any of the new episodes because I'm waiting for full season french dub torrent to drop.
+Is the new season good?
+--- 136735294
+>>136733536
+>Typical Kim response
+--- 136735316
+>>136734594
+Explain what you mean by this.
+There is Overwatch pr0n and there is ML pr0n but Overwatch isn't ML and vice versa.
+--- 136735371
+>>136735316
+th best-looking rule 34 3DCG p0rn is often made with Overwatch Characters. anon wants the same quality.
+--- 136735373
+>>136735290
+Depends on what you consider good
+--- 136735415
+>>136733536
+You can fix her. You can fix everybody. Just kiss the mermaid and be one with her.
+--- 136735421
+>>136735373
+I'm not watching this show for War and Peace level of writing.
+--- 136735567
+>>136735421
+Well then, you have a kiss, then you have another kiss and a few other kisses, then you have babymaking (probably behind the scenes), you have a suffering bug, finally non-suffering catboy, lara croft, a rotten mad grandpa, a few fucking plot twists, still no sign of chloe redemption and a questionable ending which depends on how things turn out next seasons. If you have a vague idea what that means and still interested, or if you've liked season 4, then you're in for a good stuff.
+--- 136735629
+>>136735567
+Merci beaucoup!
+--- 136735772
+>>136724868
+>how badly having teen actors wearing latex spandex would go in real action and get cold feet.
+Really?? Have you been to a beach the last decade? Teenage girls wear the tiniest string bikinis without hesitation, and spandex activewear is quite common in everyday settings, also at work. Teenagers have zero problems showing off their bodies.
+--- 136736124
+>>136692921
+I bought a three pack on a whim and got two Eagles and a Hawkmoth and I don't know what to do with them
+--- 136736182
+>>136734893
+Thanks that’s the one. 
+>>136734971
+She became such a furry lol
+--- 136736197
+>>136734550
+Japans
+--- 136736217
+>>136735290
+I think the first half of the season is the best start to a season we’ve had. Only bad ones I’ve seen are destruction and migration. Aside from those everything else is at least good.
+--- 136736236
+>>136736217
+Note I have not watched passed episode 16.
+--- 136736265
+>>136736217
+Alright!
+--- 136736327
+>>136736197
+Japanese dub is up to 509 which is elation
+--- 136736945
+>>136736124
+Where can kinder eggs be sold?
+--- 136737345
+>>136734594
+The leaked models only work in a very specific version of Maya and nobody seems to really know how to do anything with them.
+--- 136737551
+>>136737345
+REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
+FUCK that pisses me off. I wish I knew enough about 3d modeling to make a conversion to blender or whatever the kids are using these days. Fuck I want on-model pr0n of these characters.
+--- 136737680
+>>136735371
+So what you're saying is you want ML pr0n with the same quality as Overwatch pr0n?
+
+Does anybody know if "Ferjuasi" ever made any videos? Because their artwork is quite good.
+
+I think any ML pron vids made by Ferjuasi would be equal to Overwatch pr0n vids.
+--- 136737721
+>>136735415
+But he doesn't want the mermaid.
+He wants the spoiled brat.
+--- 136737774
+>>136736945
+Europe, I would assume.
+--- 136737828
+>>136685358
+I didn't expect Chat to go extreme prejudice for once.
+Genuinely scary.
+--- 136737868
+After Derision I'm wondering.
+It will only take for Chloe to do something totally heinous to Marinette for Adrien to get akumatized and straight up murder her ass.
+--- 136737954
+>>136737868
+I don't think it has to be THAT drastic.
+I think Sabrina will finally have had enough of Chloe's shit, and her father will be caught up in some sort of scandal where not only will he have to resign as mayor of Paris, it will result in the family losing all of their money.
+
+At that point Chloe will be so desperate for food and friendship that not only will she turn over a new leaf and start being nice to Marinette, she will teach Chloe how to cook.
+--- 136738028
+>>136737828
+I'm waiting for Sabrina to wise up and do the same.
+--- 136738057
+>>136737828
+He has to kill somebody at some point I swear. they've been building this cataclysm another person thing since dark cupid and really pushed it this season. i don't mean Gabe I mean str8 up murder someone and they turn to dust right in front of him kinda like aeon without the rust.
+--- 136738137
+>>136736945
+I think they sell them everywhere but America although I could be wrong, I got mine in Canada.
+--- 136738220
+>>136737868
+Chloe just needs correction. I can give it to her. When I'm done with her she'll be a well-behaved tradwife!
+--- 136738526
+>>136737551
+GrandCupido has an excellent Ladybug blender model, I don't think he's done Chat Noir though.
+--- 136738950
+>>136737721
+And he's stupid for it.
+--- 136738988
+>>136738057
+If not his own father, then let it be Lila
+--- 136739029
+>>136738950
+You said it, brother!
+--- 136739407
+>>136738988
+Not before before Volpinoir!
+--- 136739830
+>>136688726
+When is she coming back?
+--- 136740157
+>>136739830
+Never but ass Miss hound probs
+--- 136740345
+Have there been any new or notable Akumas lately? Talking about Syren and Miraculer only reminds me of the sole reason why I even began watching.
+--- 136740410
+>>136740157
+Shame. She was too effective to use again I guess. Poor Sabrina. She's never going to get to use that Cat Noir outfit of hers again, why can't she at least use her hot Akumatization at the least one more time? Heck her other Akumatization was just her being invisible. That's not fair.
+--- 136740714
+>>136740345
+wax lady in determination, bob ross in migration was funny af, Perfection had kagami as a cloud it was cool and also sad.
+--- 136740742
+>>136740410
+hopefully in season 6 Miss hound chases cat Noir around. I'd like that
+--- 136740759
+>>136740714
+Well, I need pictures! Pictures of Spider-Man! Akumas! Seems like the threads don't even bother with them anymore because they're too busy going on about leaks, Chloe, and Asstruck.
+--- 136740937
+>>136740759
+here ya go here's wax lass
+--- 136740967
+>>136740937
+she traumatizes cat noir pretty good.
+--- 136741016
+>>136740759
+Here's Bob ross's akuma form
+--- 136741058
+>>136740759
+here's Kagami's form in Perfection she wanted to die
+--- 136741099
+>>136740937
+I like this one. The melty clothing is a nice touch. I assume she's a fully new character?
+
+>>136741016
+>Looks normal, just recolored gold
+Meh.
+
+>>136741058
+Riposte is still her top Akuma design.
+--- 136741104
+>>136741016
+>Bob ross's akuma form
+Wait, when did we see this one? Was this how Moolak was supposed to look like inside that safe?
+--- 136741317
+>>136741099
+>I assume she's a fully new character?
+She first appeared in season 3 she's back now 
+>Looks normal, just recolored gold 
+He's hilarious though and so is his power 
+>Riposte is still her top Akuma design. 
+She returns as Riposte in Protection with a new power. 
+>>136741104
+This came from Migration just aired last Sunday in French
+--- 136741357
+>>136740759
+Fuck I totally forgot about Safari. She's fucking unhinged
+--- 136741413
+Ergh... I really don't want to have to endure that horrible ad-choked wiki just to figure out what these Akumas' deals/powers are.
+--- 136741456
+>>136740759
+Also dark owl reappeared with a newer scarier costume but it's not a ton different than the original
+--- 136741472
+>>136741413
+then just watch the show lol. These episodes (not migration) are all good
+--- 136742990
+What is your season 6 wishlist?
+Mine:
+>new outfits for the love of God
+>go back to fights taking up most of the episode
+>lighter tone to chill out after s5 being so heavy
+>leave the big stuff like adrien finding out he's senti, mari lying about Gabe, etc for s7. s6 should be purely chill
+>lots of cute adrienette shit now that theyre official
+>hamster
+>love square sexo
+--- 136743431
+>>136742990
+I want more female Akuma's to femdom Cat noir
+--- 136743945
+>>136742990
+dude that hamster is gunna die. Hamsters only last 3 years

co/136687465.txt

@@ -977,3 +977,276 @@ She may have remolded the interior to be more modest (she must have to add the S
 --- 136722806
 >>136722595
 She's way too fancy for a hoodrat
+--- 136722895
+1/2
+
+>Lila: "Oh Awtuw! Down't you wawt to giwe youw wittle pwiwcess a spefwal wittwe kissie-wissie?"
+>Arthur: "...what? "
+>Lila: "Down't you wawt to giwe youw wittle pwiwcess a spefwal wittwe kissie-wissie, Awtuw?"
+>Arthur: "W-why… Why do you talk like that?"
+>Lila: "Wawt, you dow't like youw wittle pwiwcess-wiwcess acting aww pwiwcessy-wiwcessy?"
+>Arthur: "I don't want to go in-depth into the shit I saw on the internet when I was 12, but that way of speaking doesn't evoke the most pleasant memories in me."
+>Lila: "Haha, c'mon, I'm just pulling your leg. But you know… I still think we should totally do that thing I told you about earlier."
+>Arthur: "Look, I don't want to, uh, 'kinkshame' you or anything, but I genuinely don't see the appeal."
+>Lila: "But we've got to at least try once, maybe you'll like it! I feel like you'd be a natural at these kinds of things, with those big, strong arms of yours~"
+>Arthur: "But what about-"
+>Lila: "Marley just left to get ice cream. The parlor is about 15 minutes away from here by foot. Leaves us plenty of time to... experiment."
+>Arthur: "Still, I can't help but feel iffy about that kind of stuff."
+>Lila: "Aww, it's ok to feel a bit nervous, I've never done anything like that either."
+>Arthur: "You've… Never done that before?"
+>Lila: "Nope! There are a lot of things we've done that I never did with anyone else, you know. Must mean you're one heck of a special guy, amirite?"
+>Arthur: *sigh* "Are you SURE you want to do this?"
+>Lila: "Yep! 'Try everything once', as people say." 
+>Arthur: "Alright, come here. And, uh, let me know if it starts to hurt or something. Ready?"
+--- 136722918
+>>136722895
+
+2/2
+
+>Lila: "Ready as I'll eve-" *ghhk*
+>Arthur: "You disgusting whore, OPEN YOUR FUCKING MOUTH!"
+>Lila: *aah~*
+>Arthur: *ptui*
+>Arthur: "You gross slut… I should just grab your disgusting throat with both of my hands and-"
+>Marley: "AHH!"
+>Arthur: "Oh. Hey, Marely. You've came back earl-"
+>Marley:"I-I FORGOT MY WALLET!"
+>Arthur: "Ah, I think I've seen it on the counter. It's on your right. No, your *other* right. Your *upper other* right. Look, can you just open your ey-"
+>Marley: "I-I'M GOOD!"
+>Arthur: "Yeah, a bit more that way… There you go. Hey, since you've returned, can you also grab me some blueberry fro-"
+>*SLAM*
+>*tap-tap-tap-tap*
+>Arthur: "... You know, normally I'd be absolutely embarrassed right now, but I'm genuinely too impressed with how consistent she is with her timing. I hope she won't call the cops."
+>Arthur: "..."
+>Arthur: "You alright?"
+>Lila: *huff* *huff* *huff* 
+>Arthur: "Oh god, I didn't dislocate your jaw or anything? Does it hurt? Can you close your mouth?!"
+>Lila: *huff* *huff* *huff* "h-haha~" *huff*
+>Arthur: "Oh. I take it you're fine then."
+>Lila: *huff* *huff*
+>Arthur: "Look, I don't mean to be a mood killer, but can we kiss for real?"
+--- 136723066
+>>136721833
+Yeah you can say that.
+--- 136723300
+>>136722227
+We hardly ever see board-tan stuff anymore.
+I bet it still happens out there, but without the shimmie it's hard to know where.
+--- 136724093
+Goodnight everyone.
+--- 136724670
+Bump
+--- 136724860
+>>136722895
+>>136722918
+Well, the good news is if she can't open her jaw he can just portal stuff in there. And portal Marley out of there.
+
+But seriously, poor socially retarded Art, if a girl wants you to call her your princess just do it.
+And if she wants you to choke her and spit in her mouth, do it carefully. Rich sheltered girl like Lila almost certainly has some very dark fantasies
+--- 136724887
+>>136724093
+good night
+--- 136724965
+>>136687465 (OP)
+>Weekly /co/ creation thread
+Can I get an AI reading of The Raven from Bill Deautrieve with Dale Gribble saying NEVERMORE?
+--- 136725095
+>>136724860
+>do it carefully
+That certainly wasn't the way she asked him to do it.
+--- 136725179
+>>136724965
+It's not generally that kind of creation thread, but that request is kino and I endorse it.
+
+>>136725095
+Even if Art's on the greyer edge of the heroic spectrum, he surely understands a big tiddy mommy's no good to anyone if you break it... Though I guess then you get to nurse her back to health.
+--- 136725196
+>>136724965
+There used to be AI voice threads, but I haven't seen them for a while
+Not sure where to request stuff like that that would get you the fastest delivery.
+--- 136725238
+>>136724965
+>>136725196
+I take it back, it looks like there one right now
+>>136710785 →
+--- 136725353
+>>136725179
+That's the thing though: he fundamentally doesn't get roleplaying like that (at least as a dom) because he practically does that for real for a living.
+There's no erotic excitement for him to be derived from the act, that's why Lila had to talk him into it.
+--- 136725417
+>>136725353
+One could see how Lila might think otherwise with the description of him going animal mode on her. But part of being a good lover is seeing to your partner's freaky, freaky needs between her taking care of yours. Maybe he just needs to turn his brain off and let monke take over to get into the properly brutal mindset again.
+--- 136725499
+>>136725417
+There's a fine line between wanting to dominate in bed and causing deliberate harm for sexual gratification.
+--- 136725579
+>>136725499
+Interesting. Do you think Lila might actually want to be abused? Genuine masochistic tendencies? Could you elaborate on that? I bet if he could get into it they could find some uses for his power beyond the stuck_in_wall trick
+--- 136725675
+>>136725579
+>abused
+That might be a strong word for that.
+In any case, this was just supposed to be a short funny story about Lila's assumed kinkiness playing off Art's 'tysm, I never intended for it to be a serious character study.
+--- 136725767
+>>136725675
+Understood. Studies of bedroom habits can be interesting, we're told Lila's a highly sexual creature but because she doesn't involve the usual POV character in that part of her life on purpose it's mostly an informed trait, which is why I was interested. We don't know much about her actual preferences so any interpretation seems as valid as any other.
+--- 136725945
+>>136725767
+Out of the ways of portraying (mild) sexual deviancy, it seems like power dynamic rolepay is usually a go-to in writing since it's simultaneously spicy, but still understandable enough for your average joe to wrap his head around.
+But yeah, Arthur is not a fan. He'd rather have (comparatively) normal sex or at least watch youtube poops while cuddling.
+A man of simple needs.
+--- 136726045
+>>136725945
+>watch youtube poops while cuddling
+A true chad. Nothing gets the juices flowing like a rousing viewing of the Skooks saga.
+--- 136726291
+>>136726045
+>Arthur and Lila randomly quoting fesh pince to each other in front of oblivious Marley
+Relationship goals
+--- 136727206
+Morning bump!
+--- 136727790
+>>136722806
+made for
+--- 136728242
+>>136719201
+Thank you, anon.
+--- 136728360
+>>136728242
+You're welcome, anon.
+--- 136729149
+>>136724887
+Nice colors.
+--- 136730242
+>>136728360
+At least she doesn't have to worry about being sagged.
+--- 136730498
+>>136728360
+You know, I still want to develop Carol’s dad too. Given how Valentina is already, I feel like her parents could potentially be a big threat
+--- 136730774
+>>136730242
+She wouldn't have had to worry about it regardless since her father was an alien robot mega-genies who wrote his half of her genetic code himself and preloaded it with all sorts of uber(wo)mensch perks, including graceful aging.
+Sadly, he didn't include predisposition for having fat fucking milkers, so being jelly is kind of warranted.
+--- 136730841
+>>136712554
+NTH is colorblind. If you is white, you is white
+
+It's why he doesn't know Newman is hapa but tbf Newman doesn't know he's hapa either. 
+
+Also why he thinks Marley is white.
+--- 136731600
+>>136730841
+Then I guess it's urban fisticuffs time since Crackdown grew up in a shitty neighborhood as well, even if it wasn't of the basketball-american variety.
+--- 136732042
+>>136723300
+/i/ usually has a board tan thread up.
+--- 136732564
+>>136692173
+>>136692297
+>>136692501
+Alright, quick correction:
+Arthur is ethnically russia-german, but the "1/8th finnish" part is also true. 
+I
+--- 136733160
+So what kind of sneak is Jack implementing to infiltrate I2Eye's warehouse?
+--- 136733840
+>>136733160
+Simple. Because Jack only has 3 brain cells, he gives control to one and lets it get mind controlled in order to sneak in. Then the other two do something so stupid that the enthralled brain cell instantly dies which gives him back control
+--- 136733904
+>>136722918
+Wait was he choking her the whole time he was talking with Marely?
+>>136732564
+Aiming to make some little Aryan ubermensch eh
+--- 136734093
+>>136733904
+>wait was he choking her the whole time he was talking with Marely?
+Don't worry about it.
+>aiming to make some little Aryan ubermensch eh
+Actually it's the opposite, since it is directly related to the clusterfuck of a childhood and the events that planted the seeds of him becoming a recluse.
+--- 136734503
+>>136733840
+There's a difference between being clueless and stupid.
+I know there's some become lighter than air and crawl along the ceiling idea going on.
+--- 136734539
+>>136730841
+>Also why he thinks Marley is white.
+So here he's just doing some public service by picking up white trash. Just gotta take her to the proper receptacle.
+>>136733840
+He's a weeb, just imitate all the mind control doujins, no one will suspect a thing.
+>>136734093
+>Actually it's the opposite, since it is directly related to the clusterfuck of a childhood and the events that planted the seeds of him becoming a recluse.
+Well, do tell.
+--- 136734748
+>>136734539
+Jack is ignorant to all things Japanese as far as I am aware.
+He's ignorant of many things.
+--- 136735185
+>>136734539
+>well, do tell
+I need to work out the details and give it proper structure, but the general jist is that his parents were already divorced and openly at each other's throats by the time he was 4, so he never had a proper family or even a facade of one.
+First years of his life were spent in Munich, but his mother would later make him move to Bumfucknowhere in Russia via custody bullshit, where he would spend most of his formative years that would end up being more-or-less utterly miserable for a number of reasons. He wouldn't hear from his father once during that time. Then, as her health began to rapidly deteriorate due to alcoholism, his mom would begrudgingly give Arthur back to his father so that he could use his money and ensure Arthur had a future. He would take Arthur to the US where he would get the rest of his school education and then flunk out of college, subsequently ghosting his own father whom he would grow to resent.
+--- 136735774
+>>136735185
+Is it reasonable to assume he's got a bit of an accent, then?
+--- 136736928
+What is Crackdown's opinion on Stierlitz?
+
+What is Iron Girl's opinion on Stierlitz?
+--- 136738255
+>>136734539
+Hehe, cute.
+--- 136739094
+>>136734539
+NTH clearly does not remember Mini-Me and how painful it is to slight the small.
+--- 136739703
+>>136730841
+>Marley is white.
+Is she half White and half Asian?
+--- 136740009
+>>136739703
+Mom's Irish, dad's indeterminate Asian (didn't know his parents)
+--- 136740479
+happi
+--- 136741026
+>>136719986
+It's always tricky when the subject of the comeback is likely to just take it as a compliment.
+>>136740479
+Still riding high off the Custard Pie Caper, no doubt.
+--- 136742049
+>>136740479
+What's your favorite type of music?
+--- 136742079
+>>136742049
+>your
+"Her" my bad, typos
+--- 136742801
+>>136735774
+Only if a little, since he's one of those ESLs to whom English pronunciation comes pretty naturally
+--- 136743026
+too tired to draw much today.
+
+good night
+--- 136743503
+>>136743026
+Goodnight.
+
+Thursday and Friday are going to be my tiring days.
+--- 136743585
+>>136742801
+Raised by those Amerikaner cartoons, no doubt.
+--- 136743738
+>>136743585
+Eh, his dad actually spared no expense on tutors back when they lived in Munich, so he's got an actual leg-up on that.
+You know, all that "former gifted child" stuff.
+But yeah, can't really imagine him having a thick, noticeable accent and leading a superhero life.
+--- 136744523
+I've been thinking about what Crackdown's character arc would look like in confines of an actual story for a while now and the way I imagine it is that Arthur becoming a better person and making good connections would also propel him into becoming a better hero as Crackdown and vice versa.
+A feedback loop of personal growth, of sorts:
+
+>starts off as a jaded prick with no life aspirations
+>begins running into his local capes after "going off the grid", the relationship is cold and sometimes flat-out antagonistic, but at least he's socializing with peers, even if in a pretty unusual way
+>this would later inspire him to re-enroll into college and get his actual life in order
+>there he would meet Lila who'd help him with his antisocial tendencies, which would in turn enable him to start making amends as Crackdown and going back to actual superheroism
+and so on.
+
+Granted, I oversimplified like an actual comic book run-worth of events but, as far as the general trajectory goes, this is what I would like to see

co/136693114.txt

@@ -620,3 +620,434 @@ Wonder where the anon that rate pilots is?
 --- 136722839
 >>136698598
 White and Christian.
+--- 136722889
+>>136693114 (OP)
+I have two stories I really want to make some day. One about a boy and his scarecrow niece/big sister figure in a small town and another about the last human girl in a Pre-columbian inspired fantasy world. Both would be comics, though the former would be more episodic while the other would have a long overarching story. I'm not the best artist but honestly, what is really preventing me is my nerves.
+--- 136722936
+Kid wants to become a famous filmmaker and finds a special film projector that allows him to pull props into the real world for him to use. Only problem is the genre of movies is tied to whatever is being watched in the living room. 
+>Dad is watching his WW2 Movies again?
+>Your pulling out parachutes, rations, and the occasional Trench Gun. 
+>Mom is watching her romance movies?
+>Enjoy endless plates of fancy food, flowers, chocolates, and a wedding ring.
+--- 136723588
+>>136722780
+Ideas are pretty much worthless, attach a drawing next time. Link which one it was and I may give some feedback.
+--- 136723691
+>>136719513
+>Wagner PMC
+More like Atlantis 'adventure capitalist' with the light atmosphere of TF2
+--- 136723840
+>>136693114 (OP)
+magical girl special forces in post apocalypse reconstruction and corporate resource war period.
+
+and then magical girl specs op asuka came out.
+--- 136723897
+>>136722780
+You remind me of that comc with the artist seething about his bug OC being ignored by the public.
+--- 136723976
+>>136723897
+Which one?
+>>136723588
+I can’t draw these characters because their designs aren’t my usual artstyle
+--- 136724186
+>>136693114 (OP)
+>american white guy protagonist is in Japan on business or maybe vacation
+>superhero fight breaks out, protagonist is caught in the middle of a fight between a sentai team and some villain
+>yellow sentai is mortally wounded, the rest of his team needs him so that they can do their team attack to beat the villain
+>yellow transfers his powers to the protagonist, forcibly recruiting him into the team
+>protagonist now stuck with these powers until he's on death's door
+I've just kind of spitballed it but basically I wanted a Japanese-type hero operating in an American super hero setting. Protagonist is compelled by his suit/transformation to do all the poses and speeches and other (American) heroes think he's a weirdo. He occasionally gets teleported in the middle of the night to Japan, where it's daytime, to fight against whatever monster of the week the rest of his team is confronting. He doesn't speak any Japanese but the souls of previous Yellows inhabit his suit and slowly teach him how to speak/fight. In the meantime Red speaks some English and serves as an interpreter.
+--- 136724237
+>>136693114 (OP)
+A comic book adaptation of the hundred days.
+--- 136724301
+>>136693114 (OP)
+A bunch of bug themed girls fight each other and do cute things. Not much story, just sexy animation like Telepurte. I haven't made any designs yet.
+--- 136724347
+>>136696393
+Who is this? Looks like Ariana Grande
+--- 136724472
+>>136694202
+Just keep the death ending. Or get some beta-readers and see if they see it coming. Endings don't have to be unexpected to be good. I knew PiB:TLW was going to end with nobody getting any wishes the second I heard the title but I still had a good time.
+--- 136724502
+>>136711530
+Go back to tvtropes you pretentious twat
+--- 136724509
+>>136724502
+He's right tho
+--- 136724560
+>>136723588
+Do you know how hard it is to draw these characters. They sound simple but in practice it’s a nightmare to draw correctly
+--- 136724604
+>>136724560
+>Do you know how hard it is to draw these characters.
+I don't even know which idea is yours retard, you won't link to it.
+--- 136724826
+>>136693859
+Tell us, drawanon. What are the books?
+--- 136724909
+>>136695061
+Honestly, as long as you don't try to pass it off as legit art or try to sell it then I can totally see AI being used as a way for people without artistic talent to get their ideas out there. Having to be both a writer and an artist to get your ideas out there is insane.
+--- 136724913
+>>136720493
+Always glad to see you share this every now and then
+--- 136724931
+>>136700079
+--- 136724945
+>>136720493
+I remember the thread where you first workshopped this idea, good times. I hope you actually try and develop this further.
+--- 136724953
+>>136716620
+That doesn't tell me who the fuck she is.
+--- 136725195
+>>136713082
+>>136724502
+Your the pretentious faggot here because if you call my idea unoriginal you prove yourself to be a pozzed hypocrite who reacts differently to the slightest recolor of his favourite dangling keys
+--- 136725266
+>>136723976
+That one with the autistic guy who only drew cartoony bugs in his deviantart. It's only 4 panels and became a minor meme, the self insert has a cap and a hoodie.
+
+Fuck why didn't I save it.
+--- 136725318
+>>136719525
+frustrated writer/artist gets sucked into the Realm of the Ideal, which is besieged by the corporate AI machine god. 
+Gods of creativity press gang him/her into fighting the robot which is corrupting the realm Pibby style.
+--- 136726340
+>>136715733
+My bad for being a day late, but i really appreciate those kind words, i'm surprised someone took the time to write a supportive response to my autistic drivel.
+I already know in advance nobody will give a damn if i ever get this thing done (i mean, it's an adult fanfic based on a largely forgotten kid's cartoon), but i dunno, the idea sparked into my head as i was rewatching the show out of curiosity and i've been pondering about it ever since. Methinks this concept has a lot potential.
+
+Also
+>And i still don't know if i should imitate the og artstyle to make it consistent or develop my own.
+lol, can't believe i typed this down, it goes without saying i'll have to create my own aesthetics at some point.
+the problem comes with the imaginary friends, they're so cartoonish it's gonna be hard to not screw them up.
+welp, i'll have to see what i can do. back to the drawing board i guess.
+--- 136726625
+>>136693114 (OP)
+My Comic series:
+>World where Superheroes exist, but Supervillains don't.
+>Evil people still exist, but they just can't have any super-powers.
+>Only 2 ways to gain Super Powers:
+>1) Find the wandering god and explain to him why you need Super Powers to make the world better and so long as your intentions are pure and you don't lie to him, he'll give them to you.
+>2) Certain Superheroes that were blessed by Wanderer can grant Super Powers to others.
+>World is now in a Superhero Cold War where all of the different factions of heroes all have completely incompatible visions of how the perfect world should be.
+>No "What if Superman, but Evil?" Allegory
+>Each faction of Superhero serves as a deconstruction of each of the tropes of Superheroes:
+>Justice League style "Save everyone, kill no-one" faction
+>Captain Planet style "Humanity cannot survive if the planet dies." faction.
+>Punisher style "Those who kill must be prepared to be killed themselves" faction.
+>Wanted (The movie version) style "Our leader can literally see every possible timeline and can guarentee that if we let this unspeakably horrible atrocity to happen and this completely innocent person dies at this exact time in this exact place then it will push humanity towards an Eden-style Utopian society the fastest." faction.
+>Martial Law style "Superheroes have too much power and are throwing their weight around. They have lost sight of why they became heroes to start with and at this point, humanity would be better off without them." faction.
+--- 136726724
+>>136726340
+Next time post your art, let's make your take on the friends not look too cartoony.
+--- 136728643
+I’m gonna do it
+--- 136729185
+>>136722223
+Interesting, sounds like a lot of fun
+--- 136729714
+>>136724604
+>>136695443
+I'm a terrible artist
+--- 136730669
+>>136729185
+Depends on what you mean by Pauly Shore
+--- 136730781
+>>136693114 (OP)
+I got stuff cooking, but I sure ain't telling you.
+--- 136732022
+>>136693114 (OP)
+ What about we give a back story to one of those mutants Kamala save from Hydra?
+--- 136732107
+>>136695443
+>>136729714
+I got to the part where you said it sounds like Made in Abyss and stopped reading the first time, I don't like weebshit. The fact you were upset no one carded about some unoriginal weebshit clone means you are 100% NGMI.
+--- 136732889
+Grefina, the frog witch
+
+I'll draw a comic about her, eventually!
+it's just dumb stuff about the dumb frog witch running a magic shop
+--- 136733188
+I used to create OCs and stories and hope that I would one day have time and money to do something with them. I'm relaxing now that while it gave me great pleasure at the time, I should have applied myself differently. I look at a lot of the old projects with regret. There is nothing worse than knowing my characters and creations will die with me, despite having stories to be told.
+--- 136733828
+>>136733188
+Tell them, find someone to tell them. All projects go thru iterations, prototype fails change or grow. 
+
+Or don’t, it’s all for fun anyways
+--- 136733919
+>>136730781
+To be cookin’ or not to be.
+Not to be…cooked.
+--- 136733925
+>>136726724
+Sure, when it's due, i'll share with the board some concept art
+But not for now though, i have to give myself some time before i get better
+--- 136733936
+>>136732107
+enjoy your woke western slop then, faggot
+--- 136733989
+>>136733828
+I guess pulling the plug is the option when the fun is gone. Even when the project is fun by its very nature.
+--- 136734198
+>>136733936
+Come back when you got better ideas.
+>made in abyss without the pee, Poop child sweat & interesting stuff just shapeless water and fire elemental people.
+Yawn.
+--- 136734728
+>>136733989
+Neat
+--- 136735906
+>>136693114 (OP)
+>all the same body type
+why even bother drawing them all
+--- 136736208
+>>136732107
+A giant mysterious pit with weird, kinda scary shit in it is where the similarities end really.
+--- 136736346
+>>136733936
+You are the embodiment of that bug faggots comic. Shit ideas, shit art, shit personality. Pure NGMI energy.
+--- 136736355
+>>136736346
+That's not me
+--- 136736389
+>>136736355
+Well, it's still true.
+--- 136736420
+>>136736389
+I'm really confused this didn't gain traction because it sounds like something /co/ would want
+>No wokeshit
+>No humor
+>Just elemental dudes beating the shit out of void monsters
+--- 136736511
+>>136736420
+No wokeshit is a given for any pitch here, humor can be done well and isn't a inherently negative trait like wokeshit and "Just elemental dudes beating the shit out of void monsters" is fucking generic. You also didn't give any hook with interesting lore in your post. Just it's like x but not really.
+--- 136736699
+>>136736511
+Oh. That part. To be honest I thought you just hated the idea of it having emotions outside of mindless action. So I guess I'll put that back in now
+--- 136736772
+>>136736699
+>So I guess I'll put that back in now
+Damn bro and your spineless, you shouldn't try to appease me I've already expressed disinterest, make something you want to see, not anyone else.
+--- 136736833
+>>136736772
+If I can't interest you, I've lost my audience
+--- 136737662
+>>136736772
+Alright then. The primary conflict of the story comes when the void monsters, just two days after our protagonist's "Birth" come to attack the elementals. They manage to fight them off, per-usual, but our MC falls into the pit in the ensuing chaos, passing out when he bangs his head on a rock outcrop. He later wakes up, deep in the pit, in fact deeper than anyone has ever gone, and now must make his way out. 
+The twist actually makes it out in the span of 3 episodes, but he endures a complete and utter ordeal in the process, emotionally scarring this 5-day old dude. It's about the other characters helping him cope with his trauma by helping him better comprehend what he just went through.
+It's not often you get to see the MC's full backstory as the setup rather than being told in mere flashbacks
+--- 136737751
+>>136737662
+I'm not reading all that shit, fucking autist.
+--- 136737853
+>>136737751
+So what the fuck do you want me to do
+--- 136737910
+>>136737853
+Have a better idea next time, along with better art.
+--- 136737961
+>>136695275
+compare it with two pieces of media, such as the pitch for breaking bad
+>Mr. Chips becomes Scarface.
+--- 136737989
+>>136737910
+In what way is it a poor idea. Just telling me it's shit isn't enough
+--- 136738063
+>>136737989
+I'm not wasting more time on this, your personality doesn't help. You are clearly autistic and over value your idea.
+--- 136738320
+>>136738063
+You've given zero criticism beyond just a vague "It sucks" and a "It sounds like weebshit"
+--- 136738362
+>>136738320
+I don't have to help you, suck it up you whiny autistic bitch
+--- 136738382
+>>136738362
+A critic who can say nothing but "It sucks" is not a critic.
+--- 136738403
+>>136738382
+a whiny autistic ideafag who is still bitching hours later isn't gonna make it
+--- 136738443
+>>136707110
+>thread still up
+Eh gonna share the concept for the main trio aswell why not
+--- 136738464
+>>136738403
+I consider this to be the greatest idea I've ever created for anything ever.
+>The one about undead soldiers fighting mythological evils
+>The one about hard-light robots made from souls 
+>The one about a mutated bugman fighting his (Literal) inner demons
+>The kaiju ARG
+--- 136738490
+>>136725195
+I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, but you sound deranged. Take your meds, schizo.
+--- 136738501
+>>136738464
+>I consider this to be the greatest idea I've ever created for anything ever.
+And yet you didn't even try to draw anything for it until I mentioned it. How sad. NGMI, many such cases.
+--- 136738571
+>>136738501
+I actually already had a drawing before I posted this idea. I just felt like it wasn't worth bringing up because, well, look at it
+--- 136739107
+Well this sucks
+--- 136739859
+>>136733919
+He looks like a cock.
+--- 136739874
+>>136734198
+I bought up MIA because "Big mystery pit with a lot of creepy shit in it" is kind of that thing's trademark
+--- 136739995
+>>136739859
+Yeah he is a big dick. An antagonist.
+--- 136740104
+>>136739995
+Heh.
+--- 136740140
+>>136736772
+This, reason why I keep going and crafting cuz I want to see this comic/show. Inspired by all my interests and what I like.
+
+-The fictional sport and name based on my old clan and clan tournament.
+-the planet based on sandbox game I like
+-the alien has antennae cuz I think looks cool.
+-the extinct alien race name after my old profession
+Shit like that is fun.
+--- 136740315
+>>136736772
+I mentioned Bionicle because it's "Society of elemental beings solving a huge lore-filled mystery and shit"
+--- 136740411
+>>136737662
+Not my thing
+Just cuz it’s not my cup of tea doesn’t mean should stop, you obviously have a story to tell or only have the idea.
+
+Keep crafting, mine been slowly working on since 2015 went through a lot of changes. Can’t give any advice except figure out a general ending or end goal of it all.
+--- 136740612
+>>136740411
+I have story stuff
+>Guy is born
+>Guy arrives in ruins-town
+>Guy is welcomed with open arms
+>Accustoms to life and figures out some stuff
+>Monsters attack in the middle of the night
+>Gets traumatized somehow
+>???????
+>Some guy with a gas mask is a weird villain-hero combo
+--- 136740709
+>>136733919
+You did this? Looks badass
+--- 136740734
+>>136740709
+It's the most badass looking phallus-bot I've seen in my life. It's also the ONLY one I've ever seen
+--- 136740872
+>>136740709
+My idea/design, brought to life by a commission. We discussed this character for about a year now and was comfortable for artist to take liberties.
+--- 136740919
+>>136740734
+You take that back
+--- 136740961
+>>136740612
+Neat, Put a cap and roadmap it and flesh it out.
+--- 136741074
+Might as well add this to the thread. 
+I wonder if any of it will ever be real. I know it won't but it's a nice dream.
+--- 136741092
+>>136740961
+I also have a very, very interesting ending planned out
+>The story ends on a sorta-bittersweet note. A big-bad is defeated and a couple of mysteries were solved as well
+>The story, however, ends on this solemn realization that there will ALWAYS be another hurdle to overcome
+>Always another villain. Always another threat. Always another mystery. 
+>But you know what? Let them come. For there will always be heroes
+--- 136741116
+>>136741074
+Noice
+--- 136741177
+>>136693114 (OP)
+>Main character used to be an insane sadist sorceress bitch who tormented innocents, fed people to the dark lord and fiddled with kids, is an omnipotent lecherous sociopath
+>Basically the borderline antagonist of the entire setting
+>Two of the kiddies she fiddled had a long quest and eventually became Gods
+>Reincarnated herself into a Shota in one of their universes
+>Makes herself/himself the new hero and main character, with no memories of who they used to be, makes friends, saves the world, goes on an extremely long adventure and coming of age story
+>All to play the long Con
+>The reader doesn't know any of this for 90% of the long story, although there's foreshadowing and clues that won't make sense until the end
+>After all this, he's finally revealed to be this awful villain and begins to reawaken memories
+>The old identity threatens to reassert, realizes even the power that has kept him alive this long was stolen from the two gods that crafted his universe 
+>Remainder of the series is him dealing with this
+--- 136741218
+An asteroid with a vertical city inside of it contains tens of thousands of sheep clone girls. Girls used for/as research subjects for all kinds of fields, asteroid houses all kinds of dangerous items/monsters/weapons/etc. The main girls are all research subjects of power tests, and all have some kind of power. Ideally I'd love them to be all bumbling idiots and feel like someone who fits into konosuba.
+
+4 and 6 are the leads, with current power ideas of 4 either having wolverine esque regeneration or super speed (want's to earn money to get nice things and requires massive amounts of booze to fall asleep), and 6 either super speed or razor thin wire manipulation (wants to either own a huge gun collection or own the station). Either case all must have a massive flaw to go with their power. 
+
+Also still fighting the format, have been told to get a writer before here but not really sure where exactly to look (and whether trying to make 5-10 minute long animations solo with voice dialogue is a sane path). Thinking of just biting the bullet and doing it in pop team epic/asdf style "shorts" format where its literally a scene before a cut with the logo of the show and onto the next scene.
+--- 136741304
+>>136741074
+I'm not working on it right now, instead I'm working on a Hellboy fan animation but I have something similar to the second to last one planned.
+--- 136741713
+>>136722808
+> I rewrote Aqualad to be a weird fish mutant like a dolphin
+>Came from a giant hole in the bottom of the ocean where a race of powerful fish people like him tried to take over Atlantis 
+> The war was basically Atlantis's 9/11 and everyone hates their race
+>Aqualad washes up in Mexico into a fishing village and gets taken in by a woman who had ovary cancer and is dirt poor because of hospital bills
+> The whole village thinks he's a demon and is constantly trying to kill him
+>Woman protects and cares for him until cancer resurfaces and she dies
+>Aqualad in his grief loses control of his powers and floods the village
+>gets found and taken in by Aquaman
+>Aquaman treats him like a surrogate son after black manta stabbed Mera when she was pregnant leaving her unable to have children
+>Mera knows what Aquaman is doing and is constantly cold towards Aqualad
+>Aquaman gives him gets a magic amulet that hides his fish features and suppresses his powers
+>Aqualad deals with trying to live up to Aquaman and proving that he's worth it, trying to win Mera's affection, living a lie, and not being able to accept himself
+
+I don't know how to make it more barebones than that I don't know if that means my plot is shit or im just illiterate
+--- 136742006
+Dark Souls-like maiden sisters, one is the typical caring good girl type, while the other is a super smug troll.
+--- 136742613
+>>136740961
+I mean, all the stuff before the question mark is how the story is set up. I wanted to make this a story that kind of has “Mystery” as an integral part.
+--- 136743127
+>>136732889
+love the hat
+--- 136743140
+>>136742613
+Don’t JJ Abrams it though
+--- 136743178
+>>136707874
+not exactly a high bar to be less repulsive than scat
+--- 136743334
+>>136732889
+How does she fare agains Claire, the bat witch?
+--- 136743440
+>>136741074
+>what if depressed priest... BUT HORSE
+--- 136743558
+>>136743140
+What does that mean?
+--- 136743627
+>>136695007
+So skavens invasion
+--- 136743802
+>>136743140
+I’m just trying to make a cartoon pitch that has something for everyone.
+--- 136743931
+>>136693114 (OP)
+
+Currently, a pair of NYC sheriff's deputies who have to try to serve divorce papers and seize unlicensed cars from people with Hammer Industries laser guns and crazy wizard powers, A sort of buddy cop thing in Marvel Comics. They've done it before officially but I wasn't a huge fan. Kinda like Gotham Central but not really. More patrol than detective focused and less depressing. 
+
+Yes, NYC has a sheriff. Not the county, the city.
+--- 136744088
+>>136693114 (OP)
+does emma frost have bolt ons, or good looking implants like ava addams? and are said implants visible when she uses her diamond form?
+--- 136744387
+>>136743127
+Thanks!
+
+>>136743334
+ACKSHUALLY she's a wood elf/kitty hybrid
+
+Grefina is...incompetent
+Her parents are evil wizards who expected their daughter to continue the family tradition of making the world a worse place to live in for non magical folks.
+
+Grefina's dark magic is powered by her own negative emotions, but unlike her parents, she turned out to be jolly and carefree, making her magic extremely weak. She's quite talented at making beneficial potions, so she opened up a magic store where she sells potions and all sorts of magical trinkets.
+
+Her only employee is her childhood friend Agatha, a bat. Here's an older drawing of the 
+ retards with old designs.
+
+The angrier Grefina I posted earlier is Grefina as a true dark wizard her parents would be proud of, but she's only that way while under the influence of her cursed hat. Once she takes it off, she goes back to being her usual carefree self

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@@ -1101,3 +1101,461 @@ True, but this happens a lot in any entertainment industry tbf.
 
 >>136722627
 Yes.
+--- 136722885
+>>136715673
+
+He shit talked Yamato and Gundam too. Which is funny because Gundam's director, in turn, had really nothing but nice things to say about Miyazaki. Then again, Tomino (Said Gundam director) did say something like "I'm pretty sure a girl like Nausicaa would just get killed in a real war" or something to that effect once. Maybe he was butthurt about that.
+--- 136722970
+>>136722627
+I like art like this. Too much fan art leans so hard into his art poseur squidward-esqe traits that they completely ignore the fact he's built like a linebacker and thumps like one too. He's an artist for his ego but a brute at heart, a frat boy larping as cultured
+--- 136723006
+>>136722627
+>>136722970
+Oh shit I had no idea he was a pepper, I guess that makes more sense.
+--- 136723008
+>>136722970
+>an artist for ego
+>a brute at heart
+>a frat boy pretending to be cultured
+He sells NFTs on the side guaranteed.
+--- 136723010
+>>136722168
+Not calling Pizza Tower's idea completely otiginal. Even Invader Zim has pigs and pizzas correlated.
+
+It's just obvious Kyle is, as usual, chasing trends. He's always been a media parasite.
+--- 136723032
+>>136723010
+I think Pizza Tower was inspired by Courage the Cowardly Dog and, by extension, other cartoons of that era.
+--- 136723034
+>>136722885
+I know Miyazaki shit talked Yamato yeah, though I know Tomino wasn't a fan of the show either. Both Tomino and Miyazaki are actually 'friends' iir.
+--- 136723043
+>>136723008
+>He sells NFTs
+pepper NFTs no less!
+--- 136723062
+>>136723010
+>He's always been a media parasite.
+Pretty much every creator, especially nowadays, fits that description.
+--- 136723065
+>>136723034
+Poor Miyazaki watching quality go down the drain. I hope he dies before he has to witness more of this misery.
+--- 136723101
+>>136723032
+>I think Pizza Tower was inspired by Courage the Cowardly Dog
+It's easy to trace back McPig's inspirations, but he was both genuinely inspired and doing something creative with said inspiration. McPig wasn't chasing trends, but making his own path.
+Kyle is just shitting yet another (failed) pitch following any trend of the moment. He's infamous for doing so. All his pitches are the same concept over and over at core, but painted with any borrowed idea he could find in X moment.
+--- 136723103
+Between this and a cartoon adaptation of picrel, I’ll pick the latter 11 out of 10 times
+--- 136723107
+>>136723034
+
+Yeah. Tomino tends to be a bit more, I dunno, civil I guess. Then again, I notice some Japanese creators are way more willing to throw shade at a work, even if their friend or colleague (Or they themselves) worked on it. Like when Anno talked about how soulless Yamato 2199 was. Geez though. If he thought 2199 was bad, I can only imagine his opinion of the sequels.
+--- 136723122
+>>136723062
+>Pretty much every creator, especially nowadays, fits that description.
+And it's reflected in how awful media in general has been. You can find some genuinely good stuff from genuinely creative people, but damn these days are plagued with media parasites. The fact big ones like Disney has became just this is telling.
+--- 136723163
+>>136723103
+Everyone says this is jojo, but I’m getting Kenshiro vibes from it
+--- 136723195
+>>136723122
+>genuinely good stuff from genuinely creative people
+I've yet to find any these days, at least from my own perspective. Maybe Johnathan Blow's and Don Herzfeldt's stuff, I guess?
+--- 136723248
+I'd need to know more about the pitch but the pig's kinda cute desu
+--- 136723320
+>>136723248
+Did you draw that?
+--- 136723386
+>>136721245
+Why do people keep obsessing over one of the most bland and generic waifus ever created? 
+Vambre is an uninspired knockoff drawn in a 'OMG so cartoony!' style - please have standards.
+--- 136723414
+>>136723248
+really feel like lashes would 'complete' that (otherwise p. nice) piece, somehow.
+--- 136723464
+>>136702500
+He could literally make this shit on Krita for free. What a fucking loser
+--- 136723465
+>>136723386
+None of those things make her any less hot, even if they bother you
+--- 136723496
+>>136707481
+Anyone can fucking namefag as Kyle fucking retard
+And if it was Kyle, your shit sucks loser
+--- 136723520
+>>136723465
+Off the bat, you could find a dozen characters that look even more sexy without even trying. Which means that Vambre doesn't even have sexiness as something that would make her stand out.
+--- 136723569
+>>136700848
+Mnoooo  yeah it's me 
+>>136716221
+Oh you bet he would
+--- 136723599
+>>136722352
+Honestly he should go work in indie games. That's what I think Lauren Faust should do too.
+--- 136723622
+>>136723599
+>should do (more of)*
+
+Anywho remember, one of Kyle's first jobs was for Jumpstart stuff.
+--- 136723628
+>>136723599
+She kind of did already with Them's Fightin' Herds.
+--- 136723661
+>>136723628
+I know, and fwir it was probably the best work experience she's probably had in years, hence why I think that's a good career path for her.
+--- 136724100
+>>136723386
+I dont control my tastes anon, I just like her
+--- 136724103
+>>136723520
+Not that anon, but counter point:
+
+Vambre is voice by Grey Griffin doing a posh accent and being a lot more idiotic than that voice implies. She's got gap moe and I like her.
+--- 136724387
+>>136724103
+NTA, but I also appreciate the slapstick Ryona she goes through all the time, seeing a no pants hot /co/ character suffer like that is hot
+--- 136724463
+>>136700483
+>Another graduate from the MORE CURVY LINES = MORE GOODER!
+Unironically true
+--- 136724512
+>>136722417
+McPig is interesting in that he compensated for a clear lack of raw artistic talent or animation skill by having the tenacity to power through the project anyways, and to compensate for the bad art with really inspired scenarios (including jumpscares in the main menu, the War Level starting with an escape sequence, skipping the boss rush by simply beating the everloving shit out of every boss, etc). For as rough around the edges as it is, Pizza Tower believes it’s own bullshit so deeply and sells itself so confidently that it comes off as a really sincere product, even when the actual art assets look like something you’d find in a shareware MS-DOS game. That’s what “Pizza Piggies” is missing: it doesn’t compensate for poor draftsmanship with a plainly apparent level of care.
+--- 136724588
+>>136724512
+i think there's a word for it: Passion.
+--- 136724645
+>>136700483
+I think 'stiff' poses could still work with careful attention to staging/composition. I mean look at some of Wayne Boring's stuff
+--- 136724842
+>>136707624
+He works in animation. I’m pretty sure he storyboards on other productions. Most animators have day gigs on other shows while they work on pitches
+--- 136724991
+>>136707489
+>>136707547
+>>136707624
+Just because you want to make a movie doesn’t mean you want to write a book. Just because you like making music doesn’t mean you want to write jingles. 
+Sometimes the thrill of full on production is part of it. You enjoy hearing your characters voiced, seeing them move, hearing the music/sfx come together. Some people find doing a comic is almost if not just as fulfilling as doing an animation, and some do not. I think both are valid opinions. If you find the end result rewarding, then it’s worthwhile. Otherwise it’s just a shitload of work to create something you never wanted anyway.
+--- 136725037
+>>136713637
+Which would be funny because pseudonym or not, John K has proven time and again that he’s incapable of actually doing work given to him.
+--- 136725159
+>>136720186
+Some people create an identity out of being the “weirdo” when they’re younger. They like the attention for being an outcast. Some of these people identify so much with that phase that they never grow out of it. 
+For a lot of people, it’s a shield. Any criticisms directed at them can be deflected as “normies” not getting it. Instead of confronting aspects about themselves that they probably feel self conscious about, they make it a feature and wear it on their sleeve so they can beat you to the punchline.
+--- 136725172
+>>136721245
+Are there any pictures of him where he’s not making a dumb face at the camera?
+--- 136725270
+>>136722352
+It’s understandable. If you were a chef for a 5 star restaurant, you don’t start working at chipotle just because you want to keep cooking. Prestige aside, it’s a different gig for different people with different strengths. 
+Indie animation is hard and thankless. Fundraising is an actual skill that few have and you have to be doing that 24/7. You work longer harder hours with less talented people who you can’t pay enough to make one episode (if you’re lucky), release it online for potentially nobody to give a shit, then you do the whole thing again so you can possibly make a second episode in a year or two. Kyle is pushing 50 and maybe he doesn’t find that sort of grind very appealing. It’s one thing if that’s your only option, but the fact that he’s already made a show means doors are open to him that are otherwise very difficult to get a foot into for other people.
+--- 136725319
+>>136699746 (OP)
+The hypothetical genesis for this one seems obvious. He and a friend were super hungry and jokingly referred to themselves as pizza piggies after ordering a bunch of food. Piggis MacNamara even dresses like him. 
+Kyle then took the joke farther and sketched it out. I doubt the concept went any further than that.
+--- 136725449
+>>136723569
+I remember when Reiger's comic did this bit...
+No, you should not look that up.
+--- 136725506
+>>136711126
+It's an absolutely wondaful game. Lots to love.
+--- 136726062
+>>136724645
+It looks like Superman is raiding a Special Ed field trip.
+--- 136726406
+>>136720293
+But then who would he be able to self insert as?
+--- 136726480
+>>136723569
+Dat ass
+--- 136726498
+>>136726406
+can't self insert as a girl? why not? everybody's doing it
+--- 136727359
+>>136726062
+Yeah, though at least that's excusable by Boring being old af when he did the piece.
+--- 136727589
+>>136718303
+Kino?
+--- 136727656
+>>136727589
+--- 136728804
+>>136712362
+It's a trans metaphor
+--- 136729903
+>>136701519
+That's the thing about throwing shit against the wall, eventually it will stick.
+--- 136730201
+>>136722104
+Yeah but don't do it on an account attached to your real identity
+--- 136730233
+>>136701519
+Who the hell is he?
+--- 136730380
+>>136702559
+oh, cool.
+--- 136730483
+>>136725449
+Ehh it's Reiger, after  the badger girl incident I've come to expect the same thing to happen to any chubby characters that appear in his comic
+--- 136730779
+I want to compare Kyles's ideas to other prominent industry artists. Is this the norm?
+--- 136730790
+>>136722168
+>>136723010
+Literally crossboarding /v/ zoomers and discordfags who don't realize FotM's have a shelf life. PT's off-topic, this is /co/.
+--- 136730808
+>>136723103
+underage b&
+--- 136730849
+>>136730790
+>PT's off-topic, this is /co/.
+Factually wrong, Pizza Tower has comics, which came before the game even.
+--- 136730856
+>>136713388
+Factually incorrect. OG pitch came out before. Stay in school and off of Discord, summerfag.
+>>136716130
+--- 136730868
+>>136730849
+But they are discussing the game as seen in the comments made in the thread?Disingenuous fuck.
+>>>/v/
+--- 136730909
+>>136730868
+Stop derailing the thread with your autistic nerd bullshit. 
+
+What is kyle doing now? Is he still in the industry?
+--- 136730984
+>>136730868
+Doesnt mean its no longer /co/. Furthermore there have been entire threads talking about games made from /co/ media before.
+Either way backseat moderating is gay and so are (you)
+--- 136730987
+>>136730909
+Most Showrunners stop making their own cartoons and go on to help other cartoonists work on their shows, sometimes they stop Showrunning midway through their own cartoons
+So yeah, I'm pretty sure he's still in the industry doing exactly that
+--- 136731388
+>>136730233
+The purple guy? That’s grimace, you retard. He’s a pal of Ronald McDonald known for his love of milkshakes
+--- 136731988
+>>136723569
+What's your newgrounds?
+--- 136732407
+>>136730987
+It would be interesting to see which shows he’s helping along.
+--- 136733260
+>>136706567
+Rick and Mort at least knew how to target the pseudo intellectual crowd.
+--- 136734182
+>>136699746 (OP)
+>We want the Pizza Tower Audience
+--- 136734238
+>>136723107
+>>136723034
+>>136722885
+People are so used to fake cordiality they don't understand that the type of person to become a successful director like this will inherently be passionate enough to shittalk other work while still holding no ill-will to the people that made it. Tomino, Miyazaki, Anno, Oshii, etc, are all friendly enough and in some cases outright life-long friends, yet also all have quotes shittalking each other's work.
+--- 136734253
+That'll work
+--- 136734281
+>>136711126
+Wario meets Sonic meets Courage the Cowardly Dog
+--- 136734393
+>>136734238
+To be honest, I feel bad for Miyazaki. He’s watching an industry he dedicated his whole life to drain in quality every year, at least in his mind. You’d have to be insane to be a perfectionist in the entertainment industry, but only insanity passes through.
+--- 136734409
+Why is /co/ obsessed with this guy
+--- 136734422
+>>136730909
+If you listen to his podcast, he's doing stuff at WB
+--- 136734463
+>>136718262
+>It should be common sense
+autists don't have common sense
+--- 136735396
+>>136718262
+Or maybe normies are big fat snowflakes, huh? If you ask a dumb question, you will be treated like you are dumb. Don't ask dumb questions then.
+--- 136735703
+>>136734393
+Yeah but he's also got a terminal case of boomer brain, where if you didn't grow up in a rural setting in the 60s you didn't have any human experiences worth noting. 
+
+Like he's not wrong that whale hunting has creatively crippled the industry despite record profits. Trend chasing is the nature of entertainment but its so out of control even the normies notice. But like-none of these kids this dude hates so much had anything resembling the childhood he did. The circumstances don't exist anymore. 
+
+It's easy to say "Do your own thing! Don't make what you liked as a kid!" but how can you not be influenced by foundational media you grew up with? I always found Miyazaki's utter contempt for his juniors disappointing when he could've done so much good trying to get them to really reach into their lives and find the genuine emotion under a different set of developmental circumstances.
+--- 136735759
+>>136735703
+You’re right, he is just another boomer that doesn’t help his juniors, not even his own fucking son, but bitches about them anyway. What a shitty world we’re living in.
+--- 136735910
+>>136710507
+kyle can just do toon furry porn and he'll be banking hard. not many furfag artist nail the toony style and he can be flexible enough for some odd kinks with some twisted humor added
+--- 136735921
+>>136700199
+--- 136736313
+>>136735910
+He could even embrace fat fuckery with these two.
+--- 136736911
+>>136734182
+Pizza Tower? Don't you mean Pizza Pop?
+--- 136737070
+>>136706456
+I don't know what i'm looking at, just that i want it animated and airing on cartoon network.
+--- 136737083
+>>136736911
+Pizza Pop? Don’t you mean Pop the Pig?
+--- 136737437
+>>136717742
+He has a good style but he can't barely make a good design or plot
+>>136706456
+Like FRS looks pretty damn good but he has a problem making simple good looking character designs
+--- 136737483
+>>136712070
+>talks shit about john k
+>also completely emulates/rips off his style
+really gets the ol' noggin joggin...
+--- 136737553
+>>136707506
+lel I believe it considering his needlessly smarmy reply here
+>>136702500
+--- 136737601
+>>136722970
+check out the /trash/ pizza tower thread, the human pepperman one person draws/posts is...interesting.
+--- 136737610
+>>136735910
+honestly a good point
+he could go fetishy for some real money or just do more vanilla stuff since really toony vanilla furry stuff is remarkably short supply, believe me or not
+--- 136737648
+>>136737083
+>toy makers barely disguised fetish.jpg
+--- 136737675
+>>136722457
+he's the cornette of animation
+jaded old fuck that has a lot of rightful criticism of the modern field alongside a good bit of outdated misconceptions and especially personal bias coloring of his other opinions
+--- 136737712
+>>136737483
+Many such a case.
+--- 136737866
+>>136730868
+>look, mom, i'm a jannie
+--- 136737872
+>>136737675
+>Jim Cornette of Animation
+
+Holy shit your right
+--- 136738035
+>>136737872
+Who’s he?
+--- 136738036
+>>136737483
+>>136737712
+Literally becoming their own enemy
+--- 136738079
+I'd rather see any of Kyle's wacky concepts become real than most shit that's plopped out nowadays.
+--- 136738110
+>>136735703
+I'm more of a Tezuka guy anyways.
+--- 136738245
+>>136738079
+>I'd rather drink piss than eat shit
+--- 136738281
+>>136737712
+I thought mark just copied butch
+--- 136738330
+>>136738281
+Yes, that’s why I replied with him to that post. Got any other examples like that?
+--- 136738366
+>>136737712
+>lukewarm opinion: the character
+I haven't watched him in months. Is he still a cuckold?
+--- 136738390
+>>136738366
+Yeah.
+--- 136738391
+>>136738366
+He married a cheater what do you think?
+--- 136738406
+>>136699746 (OP)
+Do i smell bacon?
+--- 136738454
+>>136738330
+Oh I thought you were implying he was copying John K, sorry anon, I don’t know what’s wrong with me. Tbf, mark admits to being influenced by him 
+>other examples 
+God I feel like there’s a few I know but I can’t remeber any specific names
+--- 136738598
+>>136712981
+>>136718262
+
+>It should be common sense to not constantly snap at people on your real life industry-linked work accounts. I'm working to become a game dev and one of the most important things is you have to be chill to work with, because if you're on your period over absolutely nothing, imagine how purely unbearable you'd be when there's issues or delays with the project, deadlines are coming up, etc.
+
+So the next John K?
+--- 136738616
+>>136738454
+It’s alright, I’m sure there’s more out there somewhere.
+--- 136739132
+>>136726062
+Kek
+>captcha: RADD8
+--- 136739954
+>>136723386
+sex sells and people online find it very easy to be sexually attracted to just about anything, people here were jacking off to the duolingo characters a few months ago
+--- 136740071
+>>136699746 (OP)
+Invader Zim did this first, and it was called Bloaty's Pizza Hog.
+--- 136740454
+>>136740071
+
+Just about every show that parodied Chuck E Cheese did that shit already.
+--- 136740695
+>>136740454
+We’re bringing out all the pizza fat fucks today, huh?
+--- 136740864
+>>136699746 (OP)
+I'll give it a go as long it is not like mighty magisword. that shit had 200 jokes a minute and had like one landing each episode.
+--- 136740895
+>>136701122
+>that shirt
+I have a very similar shirt by the stamp on it was fucking terrible.
+--- 136741081
+>>136712070
+>dude she is like a third your age
+
+Why do people have a problem with this exactly?
+If they are both consenting adults are are law abiding they should do whatever the fuck they want
+--- 136741101
+>>136723520
+>you could find a dozen characters that look even more sexy without even trying.
+It's never been just about that with people attracted to cartoons, otherwise a bunch of classic toy commercial and random comic girls would be way more popular than the Adventure Time sticcs. Personality, voice, and themes go a long way.
+--- 136741290
+>>136740454
+>>136740695
+--- 136741848
+>>136741081
+The fuck is that thing supposed to be?
+--- 136741928
+Just a lil' post to spit some truth:
+Carroza's Moobeard pilot was infinite kino
+https://youtu.be/VNLXJ1t5uTc [Embed]
+--- 136742262
+>>136699746 (OP)
+Absolutely souless just like his other pitches.
+>Wacky male (x) and sexy and slightly less wacky female (x) work together at (x)
+The pig girl is hot though and I have a feeling that is what this thread is about.
+--- 136742537
+>>136699746 (OP)
+What happened to his "pumpkin and cat try to become influencers in the city" project?
+--- 136742610
+>>136699746 (OP)
+I remember this big spiel in the from of a Deviantart journal years ago where Kyle Carrozza was part of a hate mob targeting someone, who said they hated Fanboy & Chum Chum but loved the 2D title card art, which made Kyle say they "just insulted an entire staff that worked their asses off" Was any of that true?
+--- 136743231
+>>136724645
+Wayne Boring was the most static, square ass character designer of all time.
+And it was awesome.
+--- 136743473
+>>136702878
+He hated Ishinomori?
+--- 136743705
+>>136743473
+No, he hated his editor, Torishima, so he made Dr. Mashirito. He’d always reject his bullshit so Rejected became Mashirito’s catchphrase
+--- 136743745
+>>136741833
+I’ll get the oven ready

co/136700182.txt

@@ -326,3 +326,105 @@ Multi Level Marketing.
 --- 136722779
 >>136722574
 easily, have you read the comic?
+--- 136723981
+>>136722779
+Yes, and Pacifica is adapting.
+Soon no one can rival her power.
+--- 136724170
+>>136724126
+>thick eyebrows
+ohh yeah give me that good shit
+--- 136724307
+I'm going to commit a fucking hate crime if any of the redheads waifus become black
+--- 136724376
+>>136724307
+Wendy being substitute baby sitter for Vicky would be pretty funny. Wonder if Timmy would crush on her.
+--- 136724444
+>>136700182 (OP)
+Made for Big Marco Cock.
+--- 136724929
+>>136724307
+what if they're black redheads?
+--- 136725291
+>>136724929
+That would be too much power.
+--- 136726345
+>>136700182 (OP)
+Endangered species
+--- 136727506
+>>136706527
+It's called puberty, anon. That's pretty much exactly how it works. And girls are mostly through it at 15.
+--- 136727526
+>>136714918
+She's a high schooler wrapping up puberty, and he's a middle schooler just starting. Age is a massive issue.
+--- 136728020
+>>136704033
+>>136704055
+I gave my theory a while back but I'll say it again.
+
+Dipper and Wendy WERE going to be a couple. They only had a 3 year age gap, 2 at the end of the show. While I dont HATE Dipficica, it struck me as a little odd that they'd set up that relationship with 10 episodes left in the show only to do nothing with it.
+
+My theory is that at some point some Disney execs started to worry that people would see them acting romantic, think like >>136704016 and then proceed to stir up shit online. Forcing the writers to break them up.
+--- 136728098
+>>136728020
+>Dipper and Wendy WERE going to be a couple. 
+No they weren't.
+--- 136728135
+>>136728098
+Source?
+--- 136728168
+>>136728135
+You want me to prove a negative?
+--- 136728387
+>>136724307
+Them all being related would be fun.
+--- 136729922
+>>136722633
+--- 136731309
+>>136728020
+Wendy was just meant to be the unattainable love interest and Pacifica wasn't meant to be anything other than an antagonist to Mabel, Hirsch didn't even like Pacifica all that much and was surprised by the fanfare she was getting
+Wendy being 15 despite looking and acting like an 18 year old is all do to art styles and Hirsch probably not thinking about it too hard
+--- 136733137
+>>136728168
+You seem pretty confident in your statement there. How did you reach that conclusion?
+--- 136734191
+>>136728020
+Wendip was just Alex malding about Lauren Faust, Dipcifica was a last second asspull from Matt Braly who waifus haughty blondes, there's basically no support for it apart from Northwest Mansion Mystery (directed by Braly) and the journal and comics years later when the ship gained steam on the internet (like how BBRae was never in Teen Titans 2003 but its online popularity made them canonize it in TTGo).
+--- 136735388
+>>136731309
+I like how Alex tried to cope by saying Wendy is tall for her age when she's the same height as every other teenager in the show
+--- 136737102
+>Dipper possessing Wendy and going around dropping countless double entendres and "accidentally" flirting with Dipper, going out of her way to show off her ass and tits, and just generally torment him
+--- 136737237
+>>136714267
+Diner owner with a lazy eye
+--- 136740459
+>>136739137
+I prefer his Pacifica art
+--- 136740669
+>>136721685
+LIAR
+--- 136741079
+Wendy or Wendy?
+--- 136741284
+>>136708389
+The thought of him hacking up hair after she steps away is so hot
+--- 136742187
+>>136715921
+Thats just black colored dipper
+--- 136742246
+>You will never be Wendy's cuddle buddy
+--- 136742253
+>>136715921
+This is one of the few realistically aged up Pacifica. And I don't mean just physically.
+--- 136742305
+>>136742246
+Feels bad, man.
+--- 136742690
+>>136735388
+They should have just made the boys a hair shorter, and lengthened Dipper's limbs. Heights are all kinds of fucked up in the show, they needed to reign it in.
+--- 136743711
+>>136700182 (OP)
+GF was my shit in 2015. I miss that time.
+--- 136743741
+need Wendy gf

co/136700738.txt

@@ -526,3 +526,408 @@ i wonder what global event may have drastically affected the speed of this proje
 --- 136722566
 >>136720613
 The writing sucks ass in this show so bad Moxxie's moral compass is all over the place, I don't understand what the rules of this Hell even are if there's a prison system
+--- 136723070
+>>136702288
+>When literally EVERY single side character is more interesting and better characterized than your main trio I gotta ask what the fuck were they thinking?
+No, wtf were (you) thinking?! Rocky and Ivy are easily the highlights of the cast.
+--- 136723272
+>>136709354
+Cats are more jazzy. They work better for a prohibition setting. They also make more sense as criminals.
+--- 136723395
+>>136722512
+Oh bullshit. Quarantine can't slow down a comic made by one person on their own.
+--- 136723462
+>>136708375
+Flood? I thought it was a tornado. There was a big Mississippi flood in 1927, but that was earlier than late September. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mississippi_Flood_of_1927)
+
+The stormclouds that have been picking up for most of the past decade, on the other hand, I hear are portending this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_outbreak_of_September_29,_1927#St._Louis,_Missouri%E2%80%93East_St._Louis,_Illinois
+
+So I wonder how much we know about the exact locations of the different settings, given maps like this.
+--- 136723478
+>>136723395
+but it can slow down an animated production. being a project manager would've been hell. that and nonstop patreon work to pay for extra polish on the project- which it obviously got far beyond its kickstarter funds
+--- 136723759
+>>136717906
+>Electro-swing
+>Anthro cats
+Where have I head that before?
+--- 136723776
+>>136723759
+*heard
+--- 136723793
+Getting Apple TV or HBO or another streaming to pick this up and give it a huge budget is their only hope
+--- 136723812
+>>136723462
+This is the most boring city for a prohibition story. Had the creator not been from there, this would never have been the setting.
+--- 136723951
+>>136723812
+Maybe it's more the opposite. Was prohibition the only interesting thing that's happened in St Louis?
+--- 136724018
+>>136708248
+Will Vizzie's slaves go work for Lackadaisy bulls now?
+--- 136724064
+>>136722512
+You mistake my meaning anon
+I'm saying more people would have valued the comic continuing over an animation
+--- 136724202
+>>136724064
+Not him but I never would have known about this without the animation.
+--- 136724370
+>>136710423
+>As it is there's a better than even chance that some part of their current criminal lifestyle is going to cause serious problems for them at some point down the road.
+Better that than warfare and living tanks.
+Please CyberConnect2, don't fuck up Malt too much.
+--- 136724784
+>>136717238
+I was shitposting, but that sounds like a genuinely good AU. Especially the latter if the caves under the Little Daisy were never fully mapped.
+--- 136725722
+Hug freckle. Love freckle. Cherish freckle. Pat freckle on the head. Feed freckle a sandwich.
+--- 136726027
+>>136725722
+This but with Ivy and more sex
+--- 136726175
+>>136702306
+When and how did this meme started?
+--- 136726271
+Freeing Freckle of his rapist.
+--- 136726505
+>>136726175
+/co/ and 4chan as a whole is obsessed with trannies
+--- 136726623
+>>136718614
+Tracy is a perfectionist. She'd never let an ai spoonfeed the work for her.
+>>136726271
+>rapist
+Not if he's into it
+--- 136726633
+>>136724018
+>now
+They already did, a ton of crew from lackadaisys pilot is from hazbin, animators, etc. Hell Rocky is voiced by hazbins gay spider voice actor.
+--- 136726645
+>>136726623
+>That 8yo girl didn't say stop when I was licking her feet that makes it OK!
+Stop defending gaslighting
+--- 136726793
+>>136726645
+Anon, we've been over this. They're both eighteen and freckle can consent.
+--- 136726853
+>>136726793
+Compare her speech bubbles to his. How much she talks and how little he talks. How she won't let him say anything and how his responses are always unassertive. He's just a child at a predator's mercy. You faggots need to understand that autistic ≠ shy and that they can't think for themselves.
+--- 136726966
+>>136726793
+Look how hard Ivy's coming onto him. She isn't giving him a chance to say no.
+--- 136726972
+>>136717238
+And somehow. Ivy ends up chained to an altar wearing a dress that would make the gayest flapper blush as Rocky and Calvin come charging in, guns-a-blaze, intent on saving the fair damsel who cannot reach her holdout piece.
+--- 136727164
+it was a bad pilot.
+It's not written for those who not already familiar with the series.
+The Main plot is about prohibition. they only left small subtitle in a 2 and half seconds on screen after multiple logos.
+and then a poem. which can be interpreted in multiple ways. that supposed to narrate the story but no it was about the city.
+
+doesn't explain the characters. I mean who are those characters ? what are we even watching ?
+why are they being chased?
+are those people chasing them random are supposed to be random thugs or reoccurring characters ?
+why should we care about anyone on screen ?
+why the tall cat suddenly became insane ?
+is he always insane?
+is he written as insane for sake of insanity ?
+what's with circus ?
+who is this old woman ?
+why the bartender is angry ?
+who are those characters in the bar ?
+are they random patreons or main cast ?
+why do they treat the tall insane cat like that ?
+
+I don't know what this series is gonna be about. how the first episode gonna be like?
+is it about people in the bar or is it about random trio ? what's the relationship of those trio to the bar ?
+
+Is the Story about the Trio and their random freelancing jobs ?
+or is it about the bar aka lackadaisy and who they gonna hire next to smuggle booze to them?
+or are those trio part of the bar crew. are they a crew or family ?
+
+Those things should be told in the pilot episode
+
+>Note : 
+yes I am fully aware there are some mysteries which I didn't complain about. like who is that black cat character and their faction. and why there was clock noise when he aims. and why he didn't shoot the girl...etc
+--- 136727243
+>>136726853
+He talk less so that mean he's being forced on? He's nervous for sure, but not uncomfortable. His body language makes it clear that he want that kiss.
+Idk what to tell you, it's a typical bold girl /shy boy dynamic and you're looking way too deeply into it.
+>>136726966
+She just gave him sign to join her into the truck and he went of his own volition. Again, they're both eighteen so we're to assume that it means consent.
+--- 136727990
+>>136726623
+God Freckle is so endearing. Look at him
+--- 136728064
+>>136727164
+Anon. I'm afraid to say, I think you have low-functioning autism. Get tested and onto the NEETbux train.
+--- 136728069
+>>136726853
+>He's just a child
+Ivy is younger than he is.
+--- 136728105
+>>136727164
+i've always found it weird how some people keep saying you don't need to read the comic to understand details in the pilot, yet the latter relies on the former a bit too much anyway. reading it filled in some gaps for me, but at the same time it left me wondering why almost nothing was explained in the pilot (especially that part you've mentioned with the assassin not shooting the girl driver)
+--- 136728215
+>>136728069
+Not mentally
+--- 136728332
+>>136727990
+I know right? I just want to scritch his chin, feed him salmon, pet his head and feel him purr so much.
+--- 136728368
+>>136728332
+This but Ivy and more X-Rated
+--- 136729011
+>>136728332
+Someone post that Freckle pet doodle, I forgot to save it
+--- 136729074
+>>136729011
+This one?
+--- 136729100
+>>136729074
+Thats the one, good fella
+--- 136729114
+>>136723070
+>Rocky is a highlight
+His annoying as poem to a fucking river to show off how lolquirky he is nearly made me shut the fucking pilot off within the first minute. As for Ivy she is tolerable but she's dragged down by the other two hard.
+--- 136730180
+>>136723759
+LMAO THEY COPIED THIS
+--- 136730228
+>>136730180
+Copied swing music existing or furries existing? 
+What exactly did they steal?
+--- 136730412
+>>136728064
+>oh noes he critiques my perfect show. something must be wrong with him.
+--- 136730416
+>>136730228
+Nothing, songs are the same genre and both star furries. Lone Digger and Olive Branch sound completely different
+--- 136730714
+>>136730412
+If you need everything explained to you because you lack the capability to infer, you're autistic.
+--- 136730726
+>>136700738 (OP)
+I just hope she doesn't loose sight of the comic. Is it true she opened that funding right when Covid hit? Man, what bad timing - I assume she would have gotten more. How much did she get?
+
+Also why leave the sketchlines in like Dreamkeepers does with its comics?
+--- 136730738
+>>136700738 (OP)
+6 million views and counting is hardly forgotten
+--- 136730777
+>>136730738
+7 million as of today
+--- 136731187
+>>136731094
+You okay, anon? Seething this badly about someone's success means you need your ritalin and fidget spinner.
+--- 136731263
+>>136731115
+>getting millions worth in advertising doesnt mean anything
+This board seems to get dumber every day
+--- 136731357
+>>136730714
+why so triggered ?
+I critiqued the Pilot. 
+and you took it personally kek.
+--- 136731389
+>>136731357
+Your "critique" can be summarised in one line
+>It didn't spoonfeed me the plot
+Which is a problem with you and you alone.
+
+Get filtered.
+--- 136731407
+Dogs should be cops or simply the good guys who put all these criminals down in cold blood. Because we all knows cats are the ultimate evil.
+--- 136731447
+>>136731094
+>nothing to show for it.
+Historical accuracy, god tier art and panels. Cuphead show's problem was deviation from source, this cartoon however is lead by Tracey.
+--- 136731530
+>>136731508
+Least deranged Ivyfag.
+--- 136731688
+>>136731565
+White people romanticized lions even before they went extinct in Europe
+--- 136731721
+>>136731508
+>>136731622
+>>136731637
+underaged edgelord or glowie?
+--- 136731903
+>>136731721
+Troll. Same as with the Ivyfag. As long as someone acknowledges them, negatively, positively, neutrally, they've fulfilled their purpose in their own heads. Report, hide. Discuss whether the show should be a series, an ONA, or something in the lien of older cartoons where the status quo can change from episode to episode with little/ no continuity.
+--- 136731956
+>>136731903
+I think it should be cancelled unless they recast that retarded unfunny fat asian YouTuber VA
+--- 136732058
+>>136731903
+I think a movie would suit Lackadaisy best. Since the timeframe in the Webcomic is so short, it would work better as a one and done 2 hour feature. If not then maybe a 3 part, hour each feature. I think a full series would stretch thin the material.
+
+>>136731956
+ProZD did seem to phone it in as Mordecai in the pilot. I feel he needs a slightly deeper voice.
+--- 136732065
+>>136723951
+If we're talking just the 20s then that is right before the start of St. Louis' gradual downslide out of national relevancy. From the turn of the century and the 20s was arguably the time when the St. Louis was at its peak. It put on the World's Fair in 1904, the very same year it also hosted the first Olympic games to come to the US. It was a major center of river trade, and had one of the only bridges over the Mississippi at the time. It had a huge amount of industry, including the factories for over half the nation's car companies, and was one of the largest cities in the country. Basically what Chicago is now in terms of national importance and recognition is what St. Louis was back then.
+
+Even setting aside prohibition there's a lot of stuff you can do with that time period. Corporate espionage, riverboat adventures, country boys looking to make their fortune in the big city, early union work and all the violence associated with it, businessmen from the east dealing with pioneers from the west and the resulting culture clashes, rising racial tensions as blacks traveled north during the Great Migration. And over all of it the looming specter of the Great Depression and WW2. There's a lot of potential for stories there.
+--- 136732096
+>>136731903
+The latter would be preferable. There's too much emphasis on LAWRE nowadays. And if Tracy really wants to focus on the good old days of cartoons then she'd want the ones where the house gets destroyed, the protags get killed and the world blows up, every episode. It'll give them the freedom to make stories without being restrained by seemingly arbitrary constraints. Although, >>136732058 a Movie may work if they could nail it. It's a shame that most movies that come from serialized projects, and I'm including the comic in this definition, always feel like a more expensive, longer-running episode than an actual movie.
+--- 136732217
+>>136732058
+>phone it in
+He did his best, but he's a better youtube comedian than a VA. And his bits fucking suck.
+--- 136732345
+>>136700738 (OP)
+>main character is supposed to be eccentric and charming but ends up being mostly annoying
+>cliche prohibition story that offers nothing new or interesting 
+>furry Tumblr shipping bait
+>made by some art school girl who I assume is very quirky, such talent, etc
+The art looks nice but I'm just not interested
+--- 136732405
+>>136731622
+People who hate cats are worthless twatwaffles and the fact that a fluffy beast has never shown you a shred of affection is nature's way of telling you're unlovable.
+--- 136732475
+>>136732390
+It still has that insipid art girl energy
+--- 136732635
+>>136727164
+None of those questions are important or relevant for a pilot and are easily filled in details if a series is picked up. What matters for a pilot is if what you have works moment-to-moment, not the big picture stuff.
+--- 136732652
+>>136727164
+new Mr. Enter script just dropped!
+Now quick talk about how mean spirited someone was
+--- 136732670
+>>136732390
+If you can get a webcomic animated pilot launched in your 40s, it's not to late to keep grinding.
+--- 136732740
+>>136732652
+>Serafine just starts unloading her BAR towards the group, not even asking them who they were or why they were out in the dead of night. And on top of that, she starts LAUGHTING at them! This, here, is why Serafine Savoy is just too mean, and another thing...
+>The video proceeds to bitch for 11 hours
+--- 136732942
+>>136732058
+Mordecai needs to sound older, and everyone needs to sound less amateurish. That said it was pretty good for a youtube/indie project. The VAs for the Savoys need the most training but a few lessons should suffice to smooth out the rest of the perfomances. For example whoever does Rocky needs to practice his poems otherwise they're hard to follow. I did really likedthat squeak in "excuse ME" when he was first being shot at though, it was quite funny and an example of how a voice can help elevate the written script. I think it's the only moment in the episode where the humor came from the performance instead of the script.
+--- 136733011
+>>136732942
+Kovox is pretty solid as a VA.
+ 
+Maybe Malcomb Ray needs some more lessons but I think Serafine's VA is a pretty established professional.
+
+Also, on the subject of VA's anyone else think Zib sounded like Liam O'Brian?
+--- 136733773
+>>136730777
+>>136730738
+Yea it did real well view wise. Personally not a big fan, but at least it had at least way more competent characters that didn't want me tear my ears out like the slim jim mc of zeruels monkey wrench. I love his animations but my god he needs to not be allowed to write characters/story.
+--- 136734109
+>>136733773
+Most of Tracy's cast have 17 years of refining, so they work pretty well.
+Haven't actually seen monkey wrench. All I know is there a start pirate dinosaur who seems cool. But the screaming parrot bit really made me not want to watch it.
+--- 136734224
+Ooooooh. Ivy's blood splattering into the air and mingling with the raindrops, returning to mingle in turn with the mud.
+Ivy's screams scattered by the single, inhuman hiss of the rain and becoming indistinguishable from the screams of thunder and lightning.
+--- 136734961
+>>136732740
+lmao it's too real
+--- 136735107
+>>136734224
+Have you ever thought of writing brutal death metal lyrics?
+--- 136735178
+She pleads with her eyes as her voice is stolen by a wad of cloth. Any elegance she once held lost by months of captivity and debasement. All she has left to give is her pain as the pins are driven in; anchoring her to her grave.
+
+>>136735107
+My voice is unfit for death metal and you can't tell how good/bad lyrics are until you sing/speak them aloud. I think I'll stick to ryona shitposting until it hits a critical threshold and I write an actual novel based around abusing Ivy.
+--- 136735322
+>>136735178
+>implying you have to have a good voice to do death metal vocals
+just growl bro you can sound like shit as long as the riffs are hard
+--- 136735521
+>>136735178
+ivy's tougher than she looks
+she'll give you creeps a one-two knockout!
+--- 136736008
+>>136735521
+I have yet to meet little girl who can outsmart boolet. But seriously. I am losing my mind. Give me a week to get my shit together.
+--- 136737132
+>>136735521
+Replace the bag with freckles balls
+--- 136737295
+>>136735521
+Cute, I wanna do a fighting Ivy getting punched?
+--- 136737377
+>>136737132
+and while we're at it replace Ivy's boxing glove with my tongue
+--- 136737658
+What she bought for you anon?
+--- 136739049
+>>136737295
+No point throwing hands if you can't catch any.
+
+>>136737658
+Things that she should not have spent her tuition money on. Only so many bloody dollar bills she can pull from dead gangsters wallets.
+--- 136739114
+>>136737658
+Cough medicine with hard drugs that will knock me out after a long day at the office, letting practice her ironing skills without having the smell of multiple burned slacks wake me up
+--- 136739120
+>>136727164
+you have to watch to find out 
+almost like thats the point
+--- 136739492
+>>136737658
+She's bought new clothes and shoes for herself using money that was earmarked for her studies. She can't get away with borrowing and 'borrowing' other people's books and sneaking breakfast, lunch, dinner, and tips at the Little Daisy. She just can't keep getting away with it.
+--- 136739511
+>>136735521
+is this old or did Tracy catch wind of these threads most... eloquent Ivy enthusiast?
+--- 136739536
+>you're my boyfriend cuz I said so, anon
+--- 136739568
+>>136700871
+its just hamuletta doing fake outrage shit in his threads again
+--- 136739614
+>>136739511
+What? No. Tracy knows better to come looking around these parts. And if she ever did, she'd never confide in anyone that she did. These are her Patreon request, crossposted (eventually) onto Twitter.
+>https://twitter.com/LackadaisyCats/status/1456032585054924800
+
+Source for my pic:
+https://twitter.com/LackadaisyCats/status/1358103884150018049
+--- 136739810
+>>136737377
+fucking faggot
+--- 136740147
+OCs inbound. This seems reasonable. As long as no canon characters fall for her blind ass.
+https://twitter.com/MayFrappe/status/1647450834626650112
+
+>>136739536
+Creepy. Looks like something from children of the corn
+--- 136740266
+>>136739614
+makes me wonder if Elsa was a different kind of person before the war and over the course of it, it broke her down into the world weary doc she is today.
+--- 136740921
+>>136710423
+I mean, Al Capone died of pneumonia when he was 50. Its not impossible to leave the business alive.
+--- 136740949
+This isn't Catia
+--- 136741301
+>>136739810
+yessir
+--- 136742180
+>>136732065
+>WW2
+I hope it never reaches that part. I personally find WW2 settings boring and overdone. Focusing on all that other stuff you said sounds much more interesting. I've always been fascinated with borders and transitions, two ways of life clashing in one location. The Mississippi is vast and marks a great wall between east and west, but also a bridge between north and south. A city located smack in the middle of that has to make for a grand setting back before highways and airplanes were a thing. I hope they continue to romanticize it a bit too, I like all the mindless violence with cute cats. It itches a spot in my mind I never knew I had.
+--- 136742244
+>>136742162
+Man just wanted a pearl
+--- 136742666
+>>136726853
+Do most of the people you spew that bullshit at fall for it?
+--- 136743165
+>>136742180
+WWII is 20 years later
+--- 136744257
+I want to read the comics but am afraid I'll run out of them and act like a junkie on withdrawal. Why do these cats have to be so cute?
+--- 136744483
+>>136744257
+I first became aware of this comic like over a decade ago from someone avatarfagging with it
+
+Didn’t check it out out of spite. 
+Here I am years later, finally decide to check it out only to find I can read through it all pretty easily in a day. Now I’m bummed

co/136706364.txt

@@ -207,3 +207,422 @@ I completely understand why you're doing this
 >>136710827
 >the journal
 aka post-finale damage control, just like the Gravity Falls one
+--- 136723020
+>>136706364 (OP)
+I agree
+--- 136723050
+>>136723020
+--- 136723072
+>>136723050
+This one was the day she decided to go commando
+--- 136723131
+>>136713587
+Fixed
+--- 136723329
+Shouldn't we feel guilty for coveting the pantyshots of a tween girl?
+--- 136723489
+>>136723329
+Its a cartoon voiced by an adult female there are plenty of things that should be more concerning in the world like the people on the Epstein island list not being made public
+--- 136723772
+>>136723020
+>>136723050
+>>136723072
+My brethren
+--- 136723907
+>>136723870
+Fuck I didn't notice >>136718938 also requested this frame.
+--- 136723915
+>>136723907
+a well known porn artist did this one already
+--- 136723943
+>>136723915
+I would like to see anon's attempt
+--- 136724021
+>>136723907
+Yours was better quality anyway, so go for this one OP.
+--- 136724135
+>>136723856
+--- 136724206
+>>136723870
+--- 136724331
+>>136723883
+--- 136724765
+Is the redhead going to be a character that will appear later on in the season?
+--- 136724813
+>>136724765
+it looks more like one of those "storyboarder or writer self-inserts their twitter pfp into the cartoon" deals
+honestly that sort of shit creeps me out for that reason. "look at me! im in the cartoon! i could literally rape Andrea or Molly if i want to!"
+--- 136724984
+>>136724813
+Can you honestly say you wouldn't do the same if you were in their position?
+--- 136725008
+>>136724813
+>"look at me! im in the cartoon! i could literally rape Andrea or Molly if i want to!"
+Pretty based
+--- 136725014
+OP Here
+
+>>136723330
+next
+
+>>136724135
+>>136724206
+>>136724331
+Ayy another editor, Nice work
+--- 136725103
+based thread
+--- 136725281
+>>136723330
+fixed
+
+>>136723848
+next
+--- 136725386
+>>136724765
+>Andrea's blushing
+Meaning she is in love
+--- 136725447
+>>136723848
+fixed
+
+>>136723907
+>>136723943
+I'll try. This one might take a while and not sure how well it will turn out.
+--- 136725781
+¿Quieres?
+--- 136726063
+>>136723907
+WEW, fixed. hope it came out alright.
+
+>>136724729
+next.
+--- 136726129
+>>136706364 (OP)
+Go out there and achieve your dreams, Pedo. I believe in you.
+--- 136726310
+>>136726063
+Very nice anon. Nothing like show accurate lewds.
+--- 136726338
+>>136724729
+fixed
+
+>>136724813
+next
+--- 136726405
+>>136726063
+What if Molly was going commando?
+--- 136726712
+>>136726338
+fixed.
+
+That's the backlog taken care for now and its getting late here, think ill call it a night. Once again, if no one posts more ill just choose some myself.
+
+>>136726405
+https://i.imgur.com/YwzdHoD.png
+knock yourself out, I'm not much good with details.
+--- 136727326
+>>136726712
+Smooth crotch taken to the extreme
+--- 136728061
+>>136708944
+Are you people black?
+--- 136728439
+>>136706364 (OP)
+I have to say that out of all the characters I've seen this dumbass trend on recently, Molly is the one where it looks the most tacked on. It feels like everytime someone starts to draw her, some old prude woman grabs her pen, bends over the animator's shoulder and draws the shorts on. Hell a lot of the original animatics didn't even have them.
+
+Don't really know about the character choice but I absolutely agree with the mindset OP. This shit needs to be stopped.
+--- 136728760
+0/10 thread not enough libby
+--- 136728779
+>>136728760
+EDITOR! thanos snap those leggings immediately
+--- 136728832
+>>136716249
+>>136717836
+Yeah I picked up that too, at first glance you may think think it's a shadow but skin do get darker around the snatch.
+Autism put to truly good use.
+--- 136728880
+>>136719959
+Anything like these now?
+--- 136729126
+>>136719959
+>>136708857
+>>136706364 (OP)
+One of the animators Cheyenne curtis who also worked on star vs seems to have a thing for butts too
+--- 136729238
+>>136728880
+Amphibia has very tiny upskirt shots if you pause at the right time in certain moments.
+--- 136729626
+>>136728760
+>>136728779
+She's on the list. Tomorrow.
+--- 136729724
+>>136729238
+>boxers or briefs
+Not particularly cute but I appreciate the Animators adding the shots in.
+--- 136729862
+They eventually got it right with Hilda. She started
+ With a skirt + leggings combo and as she's grown up, they've removed the skirt and committed to all leggings. Respectable choice. Plus, while no pantyshots they basically gave her fans a nude scene.
+--- 136730828
+Bumpin with a request
+--- 136731179
+>>136729862
+>Hilda
+Pathetic
+--- 136732940
+>>136730828
+--- 136733121
+>>136728760
+--- 136733231
+>>136732940
+good shit
+--- 136733334
+Libby
+--- 136733512
+>>136713587
+>>136723131
+Meh, nice try. That is a fake poster because autisms who disliked Ollie. But Mollie is already winner in the night prom.
+--- 136733530
+>>136731179
+Yep, Molly is better wraith power than Hilda is troll form.
+--- 136733700
+>>136733121
+--- 136733740
+>>136731179
+>It's okay Hilda. You'll just become a ghost then we can be friends forever.
+--- 136733952
+>>136733700
+>turtle shaped hole
+That's the stuff
+--- 136734352
+Another Libby
+--- 136735155
+>>136733334
+Stinky
+--- 136735232
+>>136706364 (OP)
+I salute your efforts good sir. One of the rare souls using autismo power for good.
+--- 136735248
+Is Season 2 good?
+--- 136735323
+>>136711937
+>Cartoony artstyle=exclusively children entertaiment
+
+Hmm...
+--- 136735357
+>>136734352
+>>136734527
+>>136734611
+Libby is cute
+--- 136735423
+>>136729126
+She sounds cool for that
+--- 136735645
+>>136735357
+She's the catalyst for me watching this show
+--- 136736042
+>>136735645
+Yes, agreed. And unfortunately, almost the only thing worthwhile on that show, artstyle apart.
+--- 136736440
+Bad news everyone, Season 2 is gonna be the end of "Molly McGee"...: https://ui.eidr.org/view/content?id=10.5240/738C-5599-7FBE-A980-217F-Y
+--- 136736484
+>>136716249
+Excellent
+--- 136736491
+>>136736440
+I don't understand this, but...
+--- 136736542
+>>136736491
+In case you want to see Season 2's leaked episode titles: https://ui.eidr.org/view/content?id=10.5240/C5D0-93C3-4986-DBD6-B733-R
+--- 136736652
+>>136726063
+Cute!
+>>136733121
+L-lewd...
+--- 136736736
+>>136733700
+>Surely this look will finally get me a boyfriend!
+--- 136736831
+>>136736440
+Hilda's victory is almost in sight. The prophecy must be completed.
+--- 136736950
+>>136736831
+Overrated cartoon, only for pedophiles
+--- 136737000
+>>136736440
+>>136736542
+I'm sure that's a special planned as "finale if we don't get renewed" but the creators have stated that it's up to how well the show does for Disney
+--- 136737021
+>>136736950
+my brother in christ any cartoon with an underaged protagonist if not for kids, is for pedophiles
+--- 136737077
+Has Molly had a beach episode? What about a bath episode?
+--- 136737198
+>>136737000
+>I'm sure that's a special planned as "finale if we don't get renewed"
+Actually with how things here have been going recently (with "Molly McGee" getting fucked in the ass by "Kiff" in the ratings and whatnot), I don't think that will be the case...: https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-saturday-4-15-2023-top-150-cable-originals-network-finals.html
+--- 136737216
+>>136737198
+Is there a single show that hasn't been mogged by kiff?
+--- 136737308
+>>136737198
+These are what you call "fucking in the ass" ratings?
+--- 136737315
+>>136737216
+Well "Moon Girl" also got brutally fucked in the ass by "Kiff" in the ratings, so it's pretty much clear that furries are what actually sells these days *cough* *cough* Bluey *cough* *cough*
+--- 136737546
+>>136737077
+There was faux-amusement/water park episode.
+--- 136737793
+>>136736484
+Burns
+>>136736491
+Smithers
+--- 136738572
+>>136737315
+>Cute (human) cartoon girls are an endangered species
+How did we let this happen?
+--- 136738623
+Don't trust the pig or her demon spawns
+--- 136739286
+>>136737308
+Well Episode 1 ("Thirst to Be the First"/"The Fourth Bath") managed to get over 2,628,565 Hits over on Disney Channel's official YT account...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx5XjAT9a_o [Embed]
+--- 136739463
+>>136739286
+Second episode barely got 30k in a week
+--- 136739523
+>>136739286
+>first episode of a new series does well
+Anon....
+--- 136740648
+>>136733700
+Egad
+--- 136740934
+>>136715186
+Being cute together.
+--- 136741377
+Mmm_ Ollie.
+--- 136741496
+Care to dance with the couple?
+>Molly x Ollie
+--- 136741540
+>>136735323
+But mainly hilarious.
+--- 136741569
+I wonder when will they meet again in the next episode?
+--- 136741632
+>>136706364 (OP)
+your move amphibia fags?
+--- 136742332
+>>136741632
+Frog niggas had a whole nude AU
+--- 136742368
+>>136742332
+I've heard about that shit but did anyone actually make anything for it?
+--- 136742407
+>>136742368
+No! I'm still mad about it!
+--- 136742419
+>>136741632
+A lot of Ghostchads migrated from Amphibia threads
+--- 136742878
+>>136742407
+Damn that sucks. Kinda wanna write/greentext for it. Sounds fun.
+--- 136742982
+>>136742878
+Go ahead anon
+--- 136743036
+Molliver/Mollie is cute and perfect!
+--- 136743903
+>The Walt Disney Company's "Disney Channel 40th Anniversary" newsletter doesn’t mention "Molly McGee" in Disney Channel's current line-up: https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/disney-channel-celebrates-40-years-of-imaginative-iconic-programming/
+
+Well shit, looks like they're officially setting up the guillotine for Molly McGee...:
+
+https://ui.eidr.org/view/content?id=10.5240/C5D0-93C3-4986-DBD6-B733-R
+
+https://ui.eidr.org/view/content?id=10.5240/738C-5599-7FBE-A980-217F-Y
+--- 136743937
+>>136742982
+Got any scene prompts? Kinda wanna do something more than just "Amphibia but they're naked."
+--- 136743949
+>>136742368
+There was some porn
+--- 136743967
+>>136743903
+This is like the third time you posted this exact thing in this thread. Do you have dementia?
+--- 136744008
+>>136743903
+Bob’s on full damage control.
+--- 136744063
+>>136737308
+0.19 is impressive for a disney channel show on cable in this day and age
+--- 136744106
+So it's happening, huh?
+--- 136744108
+>>136744008
+>some guy: "Disney's cancelling Molly McGee!"
+>fans: "Oh no, we gotta save the show!"
+>bob: "That means nothing, relax."
+>fans: "Okay." *goes back to whatever they're doing*
+lmao bob you wanna kill your own show?
+--- 136744137
+>>136744108
+Dana asked fans to save the Owl House and that did jack and shit because spamming fanart and tweeting Disney isn't going to do a damn thing.
+--- 136744157
+>>136744008
+Who here wants to bet that Bob actually ragequited IRL when he found out that Disney is gonna be axing his work after it's 2nd Season in 2024?
+--- 136744168
+>>136744108
+On the contrary, he’s been literally begging everybody to run the show on streaming all day on a daily basis
+--- 136744184
+>>136741540
+If it's judging by the funny faces and the colorful animation, then yes, it's pretty hilarious. For the script and the descriptions of almost all the characters...not so much. I only like this show in isolated episodes, when had a good writers like Sammie Crowley. I haven't seen anything from the second season tho.
+--- 136744192
+>>136744063
+It’s ratings are roughly the same as every other Disney channel show currently in that they’re all kind of bad because Disney puts everything out on streaming first
+--- 136744194
+>>136744137
+You said Dana in a Molly thread so I thought you were talking about Dana Snyder and got confused
+--- 136744195
+>>136744137
+What does the mouse boot taste like?
+--- 136744223
+Disney sent Molly McGee to the gallows once the show decided to have some sort of plot in season 2. Disney is done with that shit in their cartoons.
+--- 136744234
+>>136744192
+On a positive note, Molly's most recent episode got a cable rating of 0.16! Maybe we are on track for a revival after all.
+--- 136744261
+>>136744223
+Moon Girl is doing that
+--- 136744269
+>>136744223
+Moral of this Story: Don't do the same bullshit "Wander Over Yonder" did.
+--- 136744273
+>>136744261
+It's Marvelshit, so it's customary.
+--- 136744335
+>>136744269
+It’s going to have exactly the same outcome as Wander Over Yonder
+>season 2 gets more of an ongoing plot 
+>villain of season 2 is just like the show’s initial antagonist except more competent and a girl
+>hints towards a twist about one of the main character’s identity that’s never fully revealed because they were saving it for season 3 that will never happen
+--- 136744341
+>>136744192
+I predict TGAMM gets the same ratings as any other show throughout S2, meaning cancellation makes even less sense. If they do put it on the chopping block, they probably just don't like it or it's too expensive to make.
+--- 136744409
+>>136744341
+Molly McGee does look pretty pricey with the animation and all those songs every episode.
+--- 136744568
+>>136743036
+And romantic.
+--- 136744588
+>>136744108
+Well it will never happen, if we want more episodes.
+--- 136744601
+>>136744341
+And by the time "Moon-Girl" goes on hiatus on May 6, 2023 (as it's 2nd Season won't come out until 2024), Kiff will be secretly sneaking up to steal "Moon-Girl"'s ratings and popularity, and eventually do the same thing to "Molly McGee" by the time "Molly McGee" gets axed after it's 2nd Season in 2024 (seeing how Disney Channel's executives just realized that they don't want a "Wander 2.0"). Kiff truly is on her quest to become "The Next P&F", isn't she?
+--- 136744606
+Mollie are very awesome!
+--- 136744639
+>>136744601
+Why are you writing fanfiction about tv channels?

co/136706463.txt

@@ -248,3 +248,237 @@ Would like to spend a couple nights, buut work.
 --- 136722773
 >>136722739
 Like-
+--- 136723130
+>>136707493
+Racc'd
+--- 136723958
+Awoo~
+--- 136724127
+>>136723958
+Call me crazy, but the time of year that forces you to wear hats and gloves, is the one time where wearing shoes is perhaps called for.
+--- 136724259
+>>136719661
+>New art
+Thank you.
+--- 136724276
+The scene in my head is Wily and Violet finally making out, only for the little scamps to burst in on them. 
+
+I wish I had a better punchline then them just frantically pretending they weren't doing what they were doing, but I think it makes a good visual.
+--- 136724377
+>>136718655
+Honestly those all look like animal suburbia or affordable-but-you-live-in-the-middle-of-nowhere rural housing. Middle class, the sort of home where you can take the family out for a resort where an overnight stay costs around $200.
+
+>>136719047
+>$300
+Maybe if you don't buy in advance or take advantage of any offers...
+--- 136724496
+>>136724259
+>new
+Actually several on e621 that are over 7 months old
+--- 136725260
+>>136722754
+>Better download before its gone.
+Don't worry, they're backed up here >>136706566
+--- 136726074
+>>136715524
+Is this the kemono uprising?
+--- 136726567
+>>136726074
+Beastars, BNA: Brand new Animal, whatever Sanrio is doing. Interspecies Reviewers, the constant isakai introducing 'beastmen' waifus,. Maybe.
+--- 136727287
+>>136724276
+>….No relation?
+--- 136728120
+>>136726567
+Interspecies Reviewers is just a trashy hentai though, it's not something you can enjoy for any sort of quality.
+--- 136728169
+>>136728120
+Japs still have these retarded stereotypes that you're only allowed to do a meaningful show with indistinguishable high school girls, and making such with talking animals is a big no no.
+--- 136728195
+>>136726567
+I can't believe internet cafes still exist
+--- 136728339
+>>136728169
+Consider upping your standards (and becoming a real snob), then your japanese cartoons will have very few high school girls in them.
+--- 136728851
+Aren't the true main faces of the Wolf Lodge franchise supposed to be Wiley and Violet? It seems like they'd rather push him aside to pair Vi with Brinley all the time instead. Her attachment to this bear is teetering on being suspicious or standard bro and sis dynamic.
+
+https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MeexrTBAjWw
+--- 136729521
+>>136728851
+They are but they want him to bang the squirrel
+--- 136730955
+>>136722773
+isn't this from that furry with diaper fetish?
+--- 136732071
+>>136730955
+You'll have to specify
+--- 136732787
+>>136707493
+They are red pandas dummy
+--- 136732826
+>>136714010
+I want his BBC also
+--- 136732882
+>>136732787
+are they indian or chinese? because india and thailand are usually more related to red pandas than china
+--- 136732892
+>>136718193
+>Dat squirrels ass bouncing up and down as she walks
+
+HHHHHNNNNGGGGGGG
+--- 136733519
+>>136720883
+It was compressed, need better version. He should have done that in the first place. He wound up drawing too much attention to it thereafter, now we have missing posts.
+--- 136733588
+Great Wolf Pack: Dark Edition
+The boys get into drugs.
+Someone molests someone else.
+The girls drown in the lake due to some sea monster.
+The entire place is just one big mafia establishment.
+Serial killer murders everyone.
+--- 136733726
+>>136722369
+too much bread, where's the beef?
+--- 136734658
+>>136723958
+I want the Wiley ass
+--- 136734703
+Damn this thread sucks. The wholesome art stopped. The episode discussion stopped. All that's left are coomers.
+--- 136735544
+>>136730955
+All I know its Buzzfeed and is literal shill trash.
+--- 136735658
+>>136732892
+that horizontal hip swaying + vertical tail bouncing is a powerful combination
+--- 136735731
+>>136734703
+Everyone was so busy watching the new episodes that they forgot to wank
+--- 136735851
+Wiley’s dad just kinda vanished. Wonder where he is? Also the way his mom rattled off names when she woke up, does he have a brother as well
+--- 136736673
+>>136728120
+Interspecies Reviewers is quality. The manga has more creativity than most cartoons out today.
+--- 136736740
+>>136736673
+I don't believe you
+And even if I did, the bar for creativity in the mass manga and comic market is so low I don't think anyone here would be impressed beyond the absolute lowest common denom
+--- 136736869
+>>136736740
+The last three chapters cover such niche creativity . All I can say is just actually read it, just about all you said blows up in your face.
+Subverts expectations, has heart, and comedy varies but when it hits it hits.
+--- 136736918
+>>136733726
+Imagine some child's disappointment when they realize their burger and fries is not in fact served in a wooden pail
+Also I've seen several locations have steakhouse style restaurants
+--- 136737005
+>>136733588
+--- 136737023
+>>136707493
+> YFW the coon's character is VA'd by a black guy
+--- 136737516
+I demand more wolf mommy
+--- 136737550
+>>136735851
+he's a reverse werewolf, he becomes human during full moon nights so he's out for some days every month so no one finds out his secret
+--- 136737589
+>>136737516
+none of the girls in this show have any tits
+--- 136737594
+>>136737516
+I'm not home, if thread stays up until tomorrow I will draw something
+--- 136737935
+>>136737516
+--- 136737991
+>>136737589
+Wait till a cow shows up
+>Flat too
+Oh well, could be wors
+>gigantic bulge with four bulges on it
+After the Sammy squirrel cake jumping implication and her licking Oliver, they so would
+--- 136738997
+>>136708864
+Here's mine
+--- 136739172
+>>136737005
+I always thought this was OC from that russian schizo poster
+--- 136739304
+>>136733588
+Thank you AI-sama, very cool.
+--- 136739344
+>>136736673
+Aside from having big booba and big butte, all the designs in there are shit.
+--- 136739534
+Good thing he didnt spit acid. Dont think none of them had ladle or a ray gun.
+--- 136739801
+>>136715043
+
+she ate the fucking dishes.. what the fuck?
+--- 136739837
+>>136739534
+*record scratch*
+Yep, that's me
+Bet you're wondering how I got in this situation
+--- 136739879
+>>136736869
+
+brinley is in the perfect position to ride my raft!
+--- 136739925
+>>136739801
+She has a disorder
+--- 136740084
+If anyone capable of drawing is reading this, please draw Sammy and Oliver being cute together. I need it.
+--- 136740181
+>>136738997
+I am curious, why Spoon Full of Wickedness at the bottom?
+--- 136740634
+If you just watched the shorts and didn't realize there was magic n shit, Brinley's Balloon comes across really creepy. Honestly it does even with the context of magic
+I was waiting for him to come across Anthro Pennywise in a drainage grate
+--- 136741760
+>>136738997
+>>136708864
+on second thought Hungry Hungry Horror Hamsters go's in A
+>>136740181
+I'll link my reasoning to the from the last thread
+>>136694756 →
+--- 136742073
+>>136739879
+Violet behave.
+--- 136742182
+>>136707065
+Supposedly yeah
+Even this series seemed to plan it at first, the concept art for Wiley had him the same grey color as Violet before that got changed seemingly last minute
+--- 136742260
+>>136737516
+Please draw the Red Panda Mommy as well
+--- 136742803
+>>136707493
+>Asian animal's son is good at math and making tech.
+--- 136743048
+>"Ah, young love. So innocent yet so sneaky."
+Wiley confirmed for a hopeless romantic.
+--- 136743218
+>>136743048
+I need a pic of Wiley getting emotional watching a cheesy sappy romance movie
+--- 136743389
+>>136707493
+Their son has reverse vitiligo. Be nice.
+--- 136743429
+>>136743218
+Know thats the 1st thing he'd do after getting back from an adventure and washing the funk off in the shower.
+Hopping on the bed, playlist ready.
+--- 136743590
+She makes Lopunny look like an Earlet
+--- 136743645
+>>136743590
+>earboner
+--- 136743807
+>>136743590
+--- 136743924
+>>136743645
+She was very happy to see him again.
+--- 136744045
+>>136743924
+--- 136744451
+>>136743048
+why did they do this?

co/136708479.txt

@@ -903,12 +903,6 @@ oni press is still surviving on scott pilgrim money and had success with invader
 Unironically do nothing but self contained stories and go heavy on AU themes and fixing all the rot and status quo bullshit that haunts comics. Telltale Batman is one of the only Batman stories in the past decade that was worth a damn because it actually used the characters in a unique way, did interesting things with them, and didn't just abandon the characters after their arcs were done. Superior Spider-Man was also fantastic and hit all these boxes before Marvel realized they accidentally made something that wasn't slop so they shitcanned it and buried it under a mountain of retcons. I don't know why they don't do more shit like Telltale Batman or Superior Spider-Man because almost everyone that reads/sees them agrees that they're some of the best things they've churned out.
 
 Another thing they don't do that has fucked them is they don't make character bibles with clearly defined personalities or power sets. So one person will write Batman being wrecked by a few goons getting the jump on him while someone else will write him fist fighting polar bears. If you aren't going to make interesting AUs then you could at least make faithful comics.
---- 136721177
->>136721015
-Because /a/utists have inferiority complexes over liking anime/manga and try to make up for it by crapping on comics and cartoons they know nothing about. If they tried to post East Vs West shit on /a/ , mods would delete it in seconds.
-
->>136721052
-Because crossovers are boring. Go read something good like Ava's Demon instead.
 --- 136721210
 >>136721177
 >If they tried to post East Vs West shit on /a/ , mods would delete it in seconds.
@@ -1003,21 +997,11 @@ Yeah, but 90's leftist were generally fun dudes who liked big titties. Now they
 --- 136722459
 >>136722330
 It's like such a marked difference from the way old guys like Frank Miller or Todd McFarlane or even Rob Liefeld used to take influence from manga and how current creators take influence from manga
---- 136722466
->>136721210
-My point still stands. Threads like that on /a/ are rare and /a/utists keep coming to /co/ to cope with their addiction.
-
->And it's full of people shit talking America and American comics.
-
-No shit, it's an anime board. If you want to get high off of manga, just go to the /a/ thread. Don't post offtopic shit here.
 --- 136722511
 >>136713963
 I love Bone but its OLD
 --- 136722561
 Is funny how /co/ will praise or shit on modern comics depending on if the OP mentions manga
---- 136722577
->>136722466
->Redditspacer reeeeing about japshit trying to get people to only instead talk about pozzed western crap
 --- 136722634
 >>136722455
 Yep.
@@ -1031,3 +1015,1123 @@ Dogman and other scholastic graphic novels sell because they're in places normal
 >>136722676
 Walmart and the like would pack Spiderman if they sold.
 Besides, online comic sellers are a thing.
+--- 136723001
+>>136720328
+>>136722455
+You're confusing liberal with leftist.
+Comic creators of olde outside of Alan Moore were liberals, not leftists.
+The former are "live and let live" types, while the latter are authoritarian "If they're not like me they should be subjugated" types, much like far right fascists.
+Ideally you want creators who are center-left, centrists, or center-right, since it's how you maintain the most variety without one group just coming into power and purging everything made by people they consider their ideological enemies.
+Right now American creatives are all either leftists or liberals brainwashed to behave like leftists, which is why modern American media is almost exclusively dogshit.
+--- 136723109
+>>136722676
+>Dogman and other scholastic graphic novels sell because they're in places normal people can find them like grocery stores and school book fairs.
+You have it completely backwards. There is nothing stopping bookstores and grocery stores from stocking Spiderman. They just don't want to, because comics don't sell, comics don't rack well, and the profit margin on comics make them not worth the hassle. You guys blame everything except the product itself.
+Fix the content, fix the form factor, and the availability problem will solve itself.
+--- 136723295
+>>136708489
+MORE SUPERHEROES! MORE WOKE PANDERING!!
+--- 136723421
+>>136722561
+>praise modern comics
+I must be picking the right threads, because I don't see that here.
+--- 136723469
+>>136708523
+>Implying anybody on this board has a basic grasp of business
+--- 136723590
+>>136721649
+I mean you can still do capeshit, theres a market but not enough to enroach the whole fucking industry. 
+I do wonder if the big two would even be willing to do that.
+--- 136723919
+Because manga is diverse enough and really tells the story the writers wants, for the most part. At least the whole premise. Not nearly as much meddling from companies, since there are so many for manga publishing compared to western ones.
+
+And there is barely any casual reading comics. It's either a huge adventure story or about trauma, and those are the original concepts. Cape comics are getting stale and most people are only really willing to watch movies and shows if given the option between the two mediums.
+--- 136723932
+>>136721585
+Also drew yaoi.
+--- 136723947
+What?
+--- 136724041
+Why are all the posts remotely defending comments or bitching about this thread being deleted?
+
+Is the janitor or mod babysitting this thread an unironic weeb?
+--- 136724244
+>>136724041
+Based mods deleting the posts of the wannabe jannies
+--- 136724332
+>>136708523
+post archive or it didn't happen
+--- 136725123
+>>136719620
+At least the Warhammer stuff can be resold, the comics can't nowadays.
+--- 136726346
+>>136708489
+You don't
+--- 136726374
+>>136726346
+>necrobumping an East vs West thread
+I fucking hate you
+--- 136726425
+>>136724041
+>>136724244
+/co/ mods and jannies actively hate this place
+We've known this for years
+It's why E-Celebs and off-topic crap get protection
+--- 136726553
+>>136723421
+More like defend and deflect criticism than actually praise
+--- 136728903
+>>136714579
+If that were true then just getting Jap artists would increase comic sales, but it doesn't.
+No, it's a combination of these things, between character designs, writing, world design, philosophy, and creator outlook, they're just generally more appealing.
+--- 136729391
+>My shitpost thread from almost 24 hours ago is still up
+Lol
+Lmao
+--- 136730759
+>>136728903
+It's hard to want to buy something when the Creator hates you for having opinions they don't like
+--- 136732100
+>>136723001
+This, most people don't mind recieving a message that preaches about equality unless it actively antagonizes them, that's half the reason HBO's Watchment fails as a series.
+--- 136732168
+>>136730759
+Yea, I think most people would prefer if American creatives stopped spending so much time shitposting on Twitter and bitching about half of the potential readerbase.
+--- 136732240
+>>136723001
+I don't even mind if they're farther left, as long as they're good. 
+I've never had a problem with Alan Moore or some of the commie Argie writers despite them being so distant from me politically. Modern creatives, regardless of political affiliation, are devoid of skill or creativity.
+--- 136732438
+>>136732240
+The issue isn't so much "leftist bad, non-leftist good," only that you can't have an industry that functions if everyone is part of the same clique and goes out of their way to remove anyone who's not.
+That's the main issue with America, and the point is to have a variety of outlooks of life experience so that one group can't completely take over.
+It's basically the main reason why the American comic and cartoon industries are in the state they're in.
+--- 136733164
+>>136726374
+Eat shit cuck
+--- 136733193
+>>136733164
+Drink bleach retard
+--- 136733425
+>>136732168
+https://youtu.be/IKO2er0NPHY [Embed]
+--- 136733678
+>>136732438
+>leftist bad, non-leftist good
+It really is this. One side has destroyed the industry. The other created it. This logic flows through basically every industry in america.
+>inb4 muh satanic panic scapegoat
+Entirely created by j*wish left wing political leaders, and pushed by feminists and lefty college professors.
+--- 136733695
+>>136723919
+>And there is barely any casual reading comics. It's either a huge adventure story or about trauma, and those are the original concepts.
+Yea, the closest I can think of when it comes to comics for "casual reading" are webtoons and comics for kids.
+Comics just need to offer something different from what movies, TV, and video games are offering, and at the moment they don't really do that.
+--- 136733910
+So should I create manga instead of comics?
+--- 136733924
+>>136733910
+Bruh, only the Japanese can make manga
+--- 136733946
+>>136733910
+If you want to create a B/W comic, or a color comic, go ahead.
+https://youtu.be/FEGJbTyjTLA [Embed]
+--- 136733948
+>>136733924
+But I want to create stories, I wanna draw, you mean to tell me I'm not allowed to just because I'm not Japanese?
+--- 136733985
+>>136733948
+Just make comics you idiot
+It doesn't have to be the direct market
+You can do webcomics or graphic novels meant to be sold in the BookScan market
+Manga by definition is Japanese
+--- 136734000
+>>136733948
+STOP CHASING AFTER THE CULTURE, BECOME THE CULTURE.
+TLDR: No, draw what you want to do and share it.
+--- 136734001
+>>136733946
+Razorfist is nuts but I agree, make your own shit
+--- 136734032
+>>136734001
+https://youtu.be/WwosymMeGtY [Embed]
+--- 136734043
+>>136733985
+>>136733948
+Huh
+Nice to see you guys are not stupid
+I wanna draw comics, I wanna do cartoony comics, I just think hat you guys and the rest of the internet will consider them cringe because they are not anime, and worst of all, it has minorities and trans people too. Why? Because I think different cultures and different types of people have potential for different stories. I don't care about diversity, I care about variety
+--- 136734064
+>>136734032
+Nice cherry farm you have there, how often do you pick?
+--- 136734088
+>>136734043
+Treat them as characters that don't have their LGBT as their only charcter trait and you should be fine.
+Respect your craft and your characters, and if you acquire a following, respect your followers, even if they don't agree with you.
+--- 136734110
+>>136734064
+I work at a Chick-Fil-A, so very frequently.
+--- 136734119
+>>136734043
+>and worst of all, it has minorities and trans people too.
+See, when you start wording it like that and bitch about people thinking it might be cringe, that makes me want to support you even less.
+This is the shit western creators need to stop doing.
+I don't care how many different colors and dicks you have in your story, it's literally not relevant, just make an interesting/hot/fun story.
+Fucking pic related is literally about a girl who gets possessed by a ghost sword that turns her into a futa and and turns any male it cuts into a woman, and no one cares because it's FUN.
+--- 136734143
+>>136734088
+>>136734119
+Why can't more anons be like you two?
+--- 136734158
+>>136734110
+You drink their cherry punch?
+--- 136734167
+>>136734043
+>>136734088
+The secret of making good gay characters is simple
+Make them either fun to watch or fun to be around with
+Don't make them annoying where they never shut up or be unbearable to be around
+Wallace Wells, Shoreleave, Midnighter, etc even the fag from the new TDI is a fan favorite here and he's openly gay
+--- 136734171
+>>136734158
+No, too expensive
+--- 136734196
+>>136734167
+>Shoreleave
+God I love Shoreleave.
+Honestly, most of the characters in VB are fucking great.
+Even the fucking commander is an actual, literal tranny and is still a great character.
+--- 136734250
+>>136734119
+This. Manga outsells American comics, and most manga has a grand total of ZERO white people in them. But when have you ever seen these series be pushed as super progressive and minority friendly or whatever buzzwords Americans call their shit? Most likely never.
+--- 136734282
+>>136734119
+RGS is a treasure.
+--- 136734306
+>>136734282
+It's faggotbait trash.
+--- 136734323
+>>136734306
+Shit taste.
+--- 136734340
+>>136708489
+make batman gay
+--- 136734378
+>>136709117
+Christ...
+--- 136734421
+>>136723001
+Nah, lots of them were right wingers like Frank Miller and Steve Ditko. You' are a fucking joke.
+--- 136734426
+>>136709117
+>Latinx
+Que repugnante, los Latinos que usan Latinx de manera no irónica no merecen Derechos.
+--- 136734455
+>>136734167
+But what if people say that they have no point in being gay because it has nothing to do with their character if you enjoy their character that much?
+--- 136734458
+>>136734426
+Esto
+--- 136734507
+>>136734455
+Just ignore them?
+It'd be just like if they bitch about a black character who's black but doesn't spend all day talking about racism or slavery or who isn't an activist or whatever.
+--- 136734517
+>>136719620
+Don't understand why places like this are so retarded. You have as much space devoted to shitty magazine floppy books no one is buying as you do manga and gaming stuff which does sell. Maybe rethink your purchasing habits before you get to this point? It's not like it happened overnight.
+
+There's a place near me that just sells anime merch, manga, and tabletop game stuff. They are doing great. They have a small 2 foot wide shelf where they sell some used TPBs, and that's it.
+--- 136734541
+>>136734455
+That's like saying straight characters shouldn't be straight unless it's related to the story. It's fucking arbitrary.
+--- 136734552
+>>136734421
+>Frank Miller
+Not a right winger, just very traumatized by 9/11
+--- 136734569
+>>136734541
+To be fair Heterosexuality is literally a human need for reproduction purposes.
+Even the Greeks understood this despite their Gay tendencies coming from their despise of Women.
+--- 136734603
+>>136734569
+I think his point is that it doesn't matter, the character's...character, is what should come first, not things like their race, their gender, their sexuality, etc. etc.
+People like characters for what they do, what they say, how hot they are, how they act, not just because they happen to be gay or straight or black or white.
+Too many American writers focus way too much on that shit when at the end of the day that matters far less than universal experiences and ideals and needs in a character.
+--- 136734639
+>>136734119
+Look at the fan beloved Bon Clay from One Piece. He's friendly, adventurous, morally gray and a really good friend. Those are the characteristics that make him a good character.
+>>136734455
+The people that focus on identity politics only want stereotypes, look at Marvel >>136721052. They want gay characters to be the embodiment of every gay person and will not be happy no matter what you do. If everyone likes your character for being gay they will say that doesn't represent the struggle of being gay and if people hate him you will be called transphobic
+--- 136734655
+>>136708479 (OP)
+>>136708489
+>greedy parasite jews begin infesting manga/anime and leave comics behind
+>people can actually make good stories and art again
+>decades later manga is shit and american comics are outselling them
+don't call it an L, call it a future W.
+--- 136734672
+>>136734639
+>If everyone likes your character for being gay they will say that doesn't represent the struggle of being gay and if people hate him you will be called transphobic
+I was talking about people liking/disliking him in-universe in case it wasn't clear
+--- 136734680
+japan is a very transient-oriented society 
+people will buy manga on their way to school or work and read it on their train ride or walk
+America is a lot more car-centered so people can't just buy comics on newstands and read them on their commute, they are driving to work
+
+
+basically what i'm saying is, walkable cities are better for everyone
+--- 136734693
+>>136734655
+jews fear the samurai
+and you will never uprise against your masters
+--- 136734711
+>>136734680
+We are talking about american sales, in America people buy more manga than comics
+--- 136734712
+>>136734569
+>Greeks understood this despite their Gay tendencies
+Nothing about Greece or Rome was gay. Literally punishable by death in any circumstance. You'd live longer being a fag in the middle east.
+--- 136734723
+>>136734680
+But Americans clearly have no trouble buying manga.
+--- 136734798
+>>136734711
+walkability is still relevant here. how both japanese and american lives have been built around the way they get around also influences everything else about their culture and art
+
+with how accessible manga is in japan, they are able to make more stories that appeal to any niche. Then one of those niches rises above the ranks and becomes a global hit
+
+walkability means you can still get away with selling multiple things that appeal to anyone and not try to fail and appeal to everyone 
+
+in america you can only really get comics in shops, people aren't going to comic shops on their commute, no one goes in them to browse and buy. comic buyers go in knowing what they want to get and then leave. That pretty much means only brands can survive most of that time, and that means creativity is stunted, so no niche can rise above
+--- 136734882
+>>136734798
+Good point
+--- 136734934
+>>136734798
+You didn't answer his question. This isn't a thread about how comics can be as popular as manga is in Japan. The fact manga is doing as well as it is in the US means there was latent consumer demand that comics didn't serve.
+Stop shifting blame to everything else instead of the product first. All of these ancillary problems are trivial by comparison, or the consequences of the content problem.
+--- 136734939
+>>136720735
+Just imagine the immaturity of these people, they now that people reject the current direction, they see the numbers melting... and they do that kind of shit
+--- 136735022
+>>136721052
+I love that these people link vandalism Black people...they are fighting racism guys
+--- 136735064
+>>136708489
+too late but you at least can witness the historical moment which is the death of comics.
+--- 136735087
+>>136720606
+>muh edgy misery porn child torture: the series
+fuck off
+--- 136735088
+>>136734934
+how is this not an explanation?
+to explain why american comics and stories are shit is to understand why american culture is so hostile to creativity
+and that means explaining how censorship, distribution, technology, business and politics and america's appreciation for art has influenced the stories that are sold and made
+--- 136735137
+>>136735087
+The only people who call MiA misery porn are retards who don't know what that term means.
+An actual misery porn manga would be something like Boy's Abyss.
+--- 136735264
+>>136734517
+It's literally a comic shop. You need a larger space to display new comics because they're closer to pamphlets usually this is a wall on the store. the rest of the store can be devoted to more compressed storage since it's either book size collections that can be identified by the spine, or numbered floppies stored in bins.
+--- 136735285
+>>136735088
+Because both manga's performance and the existence of online commerce for three decades at this point renders these arguments moot. These are problems that have either been solved, or in the creative area, perpetuated by choice. Comics' failure in this environment, which has been the norm for decades now, is a reflection their own lack of competitiveness as a product.
+--- 136735334
+>>136708489
+You can't. 
+People argue about modern politics or shit writing but this has been coming since the 90s bubble popped in 98
+--- 136735346
+>>136735285
+despite online commerce being strong throughout the world physical media still remains strong in japan
+i think brand obsession is a big problem with how comics have been ran
+comics downfall also has a lot to do with how it has only made its money trying to appeal to the obsessive fans then spit on them when they realized they would never be enough 
+
+but everything said before explains why they had to only rely on obsessive fans
+--- 136735350
+>>136708479 (OP)
+I don’t get it; aren't mangas and comic books the same thing?
+--- 136735401
+>>136708734
+Dude, they abandoned that group years ago and that group has abandoned them as a result. It’s all about LGBTBBQ now.
+--- 136735410
+>>136735264
+That's not my point. You're using up double the shelf space for something that doesn't sell, then maybe you need to be buying more selectively instead of ordering a bunch of $5 Wonder Woman Magazines no one will ever buy. If that space had Dragon Ball/Pokemon merch and Magic the Gathering booster packs instead of literally gay Transformers comics, then maybe your business wouldn't be closing.
+--- 136735444
+>>136708734
+Explain how the bisexual Superman comic appeals to 50 year old men
+--- 136735477
+>>136735350
+It should be implicitly understood that these discussions are comparing the performance of domestic comics versus imports, and people asking rhetorical questions like yours are playing dumb or trying to modulate perception in some way.
+Were this a discussion about how Japanese cars were beating American cars in the 80s, and someone said "cars are selling better than ever, therefore the American auto industry is doing great and nothing needs to change", they would rightly be labelled an idiot or a shill.
+--- 136735534
+>>136719186
+>defending Thundercats Roar
+--- 136735573
+>>136713264
+>anon, manga fucking died in the west in the mid-2000s.
+>Manga died in the west when Death Note, FMA, Bleach, and Naruto were taking off like fucking crazy
+
+How old are you?
+--- 136735695
+>>136735573
+older than you apparently since you don't even remember the manga crash in the west
+--- 136736034
+>>136708734
+>Superheroes are for an audience of kids to young adults, but right now they think their audience needs to be a dwindling and slowly dying group of 50 year old men.
+
+Did you not pay attention to anything in the last 10 years
+
+Because they definitely weren't appealing to the slowly dying group of 50 year old men in the last 10 years
+--- 136736157
+>>136736034
+Generally speaking it seems like they're more concerned with appealing to Twitter nowadays, which is a horrible idea because everyone hates Twitter, including Twitter.
+--- 136736169
+>>136735477
+Okay, so a manga is a Japanese comic book. And some people here are mad because people are buying more of them. Does that mean that American comic books are getting less traffic? Or are they both rising together, just manga is faster because it fills a new niche in American consumerism?
+--- 136736179
+>>136708479 (OP)
+>Japan markets stories for boys and girls
+>Takes over the bookstore
+>America markets stories for Tumblr/Twitter
+>Dies
+--- 136736211
+>>136708479 (OP)
+It's been over for years, the suits just haven't realized it yet.
+--- 136736272
+>>136708829
+by ripping everyone off
+--- 136736276
+>>136736169
+American comics sell less every year, the recent numbers are numbers that were worth cancellation a decade ago.
+
+And it's not necessarily a new niche because the most popular manga are action stories aimed at teenage boys, like My Hero Academia, the story of a boy that trains to become a superhero
+--- 136736319
+>>136735695
+The manga "crash" still had a solid shelf of manga at Barnes and Noble. It recovered in like 5 years. It's less of a crash than the video game crash of the early 80's.
+--- 136736320
+>>136736169
+It's mainly manga that's rising.
+Kids comics also rose, but they had a bit of a dip last year.
+Not that any of us will ever really know anymore since comic shops stopped reporting sales estimates since most publishers started dropping Diamond around 2021.
+The best we get are Bookscan numbers, which while far more accurate and representative of more of the industry than comic shops, leave out the majority of sales for direct market publishers (Marvel, DC, Image, Boom, Dynamite, etc. etc.)
+As for Bookscan, well, the top publishers list is dominated by manga and kid's comic publishers.
+--- 136736332
+This is a positive, it's good young people are reading
+--- 136736360
+So what happens when all these kids who grew up reading manga want to make a manga?
+--- 136736373
+>>136714579
+>Manga does better because the boys are cuter and more attractive
+This is also the case, way more fujos into shonenshit than the capeshit that can't seem to figure out how to pander to them.
+--- 136736380
+>>136736360
+they make manga, but it will be digital.
+--- 136736397
+>>136736360
+They might make comics that actually appeal to people outside of Twitter and aging cape fans with beaten housewife syndrome.
+That'd be nice.
+--- 136736399
+>>136708876
+capeshit are by far the best selling american comics.
+--- 136736442
+>>136736380
+So, a webtoon?
+--- 136736456
+>>136735410
+Usually most comic shops try to keep floppies down to the number that they sell. Books that don't sell or sell so little usually have to be put on a pull list so the shop owner knows a person will buy them.
+Floppies are displayed that way because that's how they're visible to people who come in. It's featured product for the moment, like how a retail store will have sales items on an endcap or new product on a standee. most of the store can otherwise be devoted to more densely packed material with more profit margins.
+--- 136736461
+>>136714801
+>They don't want to improve anything, they just want to stroke their dicks.
+>Point out everythread the problem are braindead leftists that are in command of the industry
+>"aKcHuAlLy ThAtS nOt ThE PrObLeM"
+KYS
+--- 136736462
+>>136736442
+webcomic
+--- 136736483
+>>136736397
+Anon, young people are on twitter and tik tok and shit.
+--- 136736536
+>>136736399
+Scholastic books literally mogs capeshit comics in sales
+--- 136736558
+>>136736483
+>twitter
+No
+>Tik Tok
+Yes
+That said, I don't think Gen Alpha will make much of anything, they'll be the first purely consumer generation.
+--- 136736582
+>>136708515
+Maybe it's not a problem for you. It's a problem for Marvel and DC.
+--- 136736709
+>>136736558
+why do you people pretend absolutely no young people are on twitter? It's basically the art hotspot online these days.
+--- 136736742
+>>136736456
+If your store is devoted to featuring a product that doesn't sell well and has poor margins, you deserve to go out of business.
+--- 136736757
+>>136736709
+I mean, if by "young people" you mean tweens and teens, then no, they're not on Twitter in large numbers.
+If you mean people in their 20s, then sure, but they're already making stuff and most of what they make is garbage (largely because they spend so much time on Twitter).
+--- 136736759
+>>136708489
+--- 136736783
+>>136736319
+It's also worth noting that readers didn't actually lose interest in manga during the crash. It was specifically the fall of Tokyopop, which lost licenses, and a handful of smaller publishers, some of which had sketchy Chinese and Taiwanese connections, that jumped into the book market without being properly capitalized. They didn't realize bookstores could take half a year to pay them.
+Viz and the imprints from traditional publishers chugged along just fine.
+--- 136736880
+>>136736742
+Specialty stores exist for a reason. Not everything is going to be a big profit store and shop owners are aware of that.
+--- 136736964
+>>136736880
+There's niche, and there's irrelevant. If you can't look at decades of sales trends and adjust then your business will fail.
+--- 136736984
+>>136735695
+You're literally talking about when one publisher ate shit and everyone else started printing money.
+--- 136737088
+>>136734043
+If your comic has troons then yeah its inherently cringe. Nobody who puts that stuff in their media ever cares about making something of quality, and you being here making excuses proves this.
+--- 136737117
+>>136708489
+Don't.
+--- 136737232
+>>136736759
+Your pic shows a viable strategy to at the very least make comics more known: Memorable adaptations.
+Invincible and the Boys were selling out after their shows came out because people were interested in learning about the source material those shows adapt from.
+--- 136737338
+>>136734043
+>>136734455
+>it has minorities and trans people too. Why? Because I think different cultures and different types of people have potential for different stories
+>But what if people say that they have no point in being gay because it has nothing to do with their character if you enjoy their character that much?
+So your idea for a trans character is to have an story arc about transition? If you have more than one they are all going to have the same story arc? That's how you view trans people? Not as individual with hobbies and interests but as the act of transitioning?
+--- 136737362
+Maybe modern comics don't sell because they are shit. Ever thought of that before?
+--- 136737378
+>>136737362
+What have you read?
+--- 136737405
+>>136737338
+NTA but I think he means how the act of transitioning will differ from individual to individual.
+--- 136737406
+>>136736461
+We've had problems before the culture war shit
+Don't pretend things were better in the 2000s
+--- 136737422
+>>136737362
+But comics I do like sell worse than comics I dislike
+--- 136737429
+>>136737406
+They were, definitely, not as worse as today.
+--- 136737433
+>>136708876
+This. I always saw short animated adaptations as good ways incentivize comic sales and production.
+--- 136737434
+>>136708734
+>Superheroes are for an audience of kids to young adults, but right now they think their audience needs to be a dwindling and slowly dying group of 50 year old men.
+
+The people who are 50 years old now, are the ones who were complaining that comics were catering to 50 year old men back in the 00s and to ditch continuity and all that
+--- 136737453
+>>136737378
+I'm trying to think of a comic I've read that was made in the last 5 years that I actually liked and I'm drawing a blank.
+I picked a random comic on RCO, and fucking lol.
+--- 136737462
+>>136737429
+We came right out of a crash and creator owned sold worse than what it does today
+--- 136737502
+>>136737462
+Not to bother you but do you have estimates for early 2000s comics vs late 2010s comics?
+--- 136737525
+>>136737502
+Comichron
+--- 136737598
+>>136737232
+Right now I'd kill for more animated adaptation successes
+Especially for non cape
+I love superheroes but we need less capeshit fans and more comic fans 
+Unfortunately Amazon Prime might seem to be the place for hoping
+--- 136737668
+>>136737598
+Not anymore 
+https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/marvel-exec-joe-quesada-amazon-comic-book-films-tv-1235364146/
+--- 136737681
+>>136737668
+That's why I said unfortunately
+--- 136737701
+>>136737681
+I just wanted an I Hate Fairyland cartoon man...
+--- 136737703
+>>136708489
+Status Quo unironically killed comics
+--- 136737932
+>>136737362
+There are actual decent comics, but these never sell.
+>>136737422
+This.
+--- 136738681
+>>136737703
+Unironically this
+--- 136738765
+>>136737932
+>but these never sell.
+Y'know there might be a reason for that.
+--- 136738954
+>>136738765
+Yep, nobody reads them. People are too busy ignoring cape comics.
+It always happens that great things do worse than good things, but decent things doing worse than bad things is just an insult.
+--- 136739102
+they should hire more mangaka to write comics instead of diversity hires like tini howard and danny lore
+--- 136739225
+>>136739102
+Nah, that won't work unless they let said mangaka go a little wild, which will never happen.
+--- 136739272
+>>136739102
+They should PROMOTE THEIR COMICS
+--- 136739426
+/a/ is laughing at us again...
+--- 136740093
+>>136739426
+Maybe next time DON'T INSULT YOUR CUSTOMERS /co/.
+--- 136740524
+>>136739272
+>promote their dogshit comics
+?
+--- 136740542
+>>136737406
+Remember when Batwoman was only created to appeal to LGBT people that don't buy comics?
+--- 136740664
+>>136715331
+there are plenty of talented western writers.
+they are just gagged and chained by you know who
+--- 136740849
+>>136736582
+And none of us have stocks in Marvel and DC.
+--- 136740926
+>>136708479 (OP)
+This thread again? It's been over for the past hundred fucking posts. How many times are we going to hear "how do we save comics" again and get the same answer AGAIN?
+--- 136740963
+>>136715612
+Didn't you get your answer the last 50 threads?
+--- 136740965
+>>136708489
+Stop writing for trades. It kills story engagement.
+--- 136741047
+>>136713900
+I read some of that gayshit and can confirm Japanese guys actually focus on creating interesting characters first, and the gayshit second. Maybe that's the trick?
+--- 136741131
+>>136740926
+Until comics are saved, I guess. You keep getting the same answers because the answers are obvious. The industry has just been twisted into a position for historical reasons where it can't unfuck itself. I'm not talking about MUH WOKE bullshit, but the choice to bind itself to the direct market. It seemed like a good idea in the late 70s/80s as comics transitioned away from newsstands but it was ultimately a self-imposed death sentence. I don't think it's possible for mainstream comics to pull out of this death spiral, everything from distribution to the structure of the books themselves are too locked in.
+--- 136741172
+>>136741131
+>Until comics are saved, I guess. 
+But the answer is always "they won't lol". At this point, this is just getting to be the definition of insanity.
+--- 136741207
+>>136740926
+Oh and don't forget, all the answers will revolve on fixing the big two and nothing else. It's fucking masochistic.
+--- 136741225
+>>136741047
+Exactly. And because of the much larger variety of genres and choices in manga, they don't have to try to force shit into existing series. A manga creator doesn't have to clamor for gay characters in Dragon Ball or whatever, they can just go make their own gay or tranny or whatever fighting series and sell it to the people who want it. Everyone wins.
+--- 136741243
+>>136715291
+And why do we need this same conversation over and over? Clearly nothing is going to change, at this point it's just to shit on comics.
+--- 136741253
+>>136741172
+The truest hatred is self-hatred, /co/mrade.
+--- 136741273
+>>136715303
+They should. They need to fucking learn.
+--- 136741351
+>>136708489
+Why would you want to save current comics?
+I actively discourage people from reading that nonsense. If they ask why, I tell them about OMD and that always puts them right off getting into comics.
+If they say they're interested in DC then I tell them I don't have information on DC so I can't offer an opinion one way or another.
+--- 136741405
+>>136741351
+Any suggestions outside the big two?
+--- 136741530
+At the end of the day the actual answer is that you need to make something people are interested in.
+/co/ doesn't like to hear this, but most modern comics just aren't interesting, and one of the biggest things that makes them so uninteresting is the character designs.
+Like seriously, you're making a story about battle exorcists fighting zombies and evil spirits and THIS is the best you could come up with for your main characters?
+Really?
+--- 136741550
+>>136741405
+Depends on what you want to read about.
+I'm partial to older TMNT comics, but they vary wildly in tone and quality.
+--- 136741575
+>>136741530
+Interesting designs is why SIKTC managed to gain a burst of popularity while Once & Future, didn't catch fire despite debuting earlier.
+--- 136741581
+>>136741530
+Why are they wearing football gear instead of armour?
+If they don't need armour, why are they wearing football gear?
+--- 136741622
+>>136741575
+Yep.
+First impressions are important, and if your main character is "ehh, some dude," or "butch-looking woman #4278427," that leaves a bad first impression.
+>>136741581
+I'm not sure, I'm going to assume that the person who designed the armor was going for one of those lame "high practicality" designs with kevlar plating and shit.
+--- 136741626
+>>136741530
+Image is a bad example, they don't promote Comics since they are a glorified indie house.
+>>136720818 said it best, if I Hate Fairyland, a comic with distinctive visuals cannot move copies beyond its niche audience, what hope do most noncape comics have?
+--- 136741685
+>>136708489
+Publish them in tankobons that look and feel like actual books instead of shitty floppy magazine looking shit.
+Stop having dumb bureaucratic roles like just a person for coloring or just a person for drawing the fucking unique text letters and shit.
+Sell them at bookstores and not just arcane secret clubhouses.
+Focus on putting out good stories instead of garbage that is only bought because of a speculative collectors' market of neckbeards and boomers.
+
+But Diamond and the comics industry will not compromise on any of that shit, so comics will continue to get steamrolled.
+--- 136741703
+>>136741685
+>Sell them at bookstores and not just arcane secret clubhouses.
+They do.
+--- 136741725
+>>136741685
+>Publish them in tankobons that look and feel like actual books instead of shitty floppy magazine looking shit.
+They also do this. They're called collected editions.
+--- 136741747
+>>136741703
+Barnes and Noble sells TPBs but those simply can't compete with the speed and output of manga. It feels like you're looking at backlog shit reading a TPB rather than actively keeping up with a series.
+--- 136741780
+>>136741685
+bro how out of touch are you
+they've been sold as tpbs since before you or I were born
+They sell them at bookstores
+The big two both left Diamond a while ago
+as far as "bureucratic roles", more division of labor probably speeds things up if anything.
+--- 136741822
+>>136721052
+Why do the black versions of these superheroes always have to be "urbanized" (The sneakers) they do the same shit with Miles Morales. Why aren't black characters able to just wear the official suits like the white characters? What's the message being sent here?
+--- 136741841
+>>136741822
+If it helps, they pulled the urbanized look for an Asian character at DC.
+--- 136741844
+>>136741822
+To be fair Black has always been a good color for Spider-Man
+--- 136741860
+>>136741575
+>>136741622
+>>136741530
+Tynion essentially cracked the code for what works with him
+>Have a female character in a horror comic
+>Give her a cool design
+>Either she's the main heroine or the villain 
+>Have essentially almost all the focus in presentation on them
+--- 136742063
+>>136737703
+>>136738681
+Trying to reinvent the wheel killed comics.
+--- 136742078
+>>136741622
+>>136741530
+The generic topology is not even the worst part. You can't tell they are exorcists, they look like christian Star Wars characters
+--- 136742095
+>>136708479 (OP)
+I place a lot of blame on the comic store distribution model and confusing continuity filled mess than most American comics are. Good luck picking up a random issue of most Marvel or DC floppies and having an idea of what's going on. Comic book movies are incredibly popular and comic book sales haven't budged. That's an incredible failure on DC and Marvel's part.
+--- 136742109
+>>136740965
+Now we're getting somewhere.
+--- 136742112
+>>136741822
+IIRC Miles really wasn't like that originally, it was Spider-verse that really pushed him being all urbanized with a hoodie and sneakers and shit.
+--- 136742119
+>>136742095
+It warms my heart to see the smaller publishers fail horribly.
+--- 136742124
+>>136742063
+Companies should have not abandoned the Marvel Method as quickly as they did.
+That method worked because it prioritized the visual part of a visual medium.
+--- 136742132
+>>136742119
+Why?
+--- 136742166
+>>136742078
+>topology
+topography*
+--- 136742200
+>>136742132
+If Marvel and DC can't be fixed, why even have smaller publishers?
+They should be replaced by manga as god intended.
+--- 136742208
+>>136740965
+Trades are what matters though, floppies are GOING TO DIE.
+--- 136742222
+1. Stories are complete
+2. There's more than one genre to choose from.
+3. Books are affordable
+4. Books are convenient to collect
+5. The stories are good
+6. Consequences matter: If a character dies then they stay dead.
+7. The main cast is relatable
+8. Women aren't drawn like wide-chinned trannies
+9. It's not a fucking text dump explaining what the artwork should explain.
+10. The artwork is dynamic and full of energy.
+--- 136742238
+>>136742208
+>Trades are what matters though,
+
+Trades collecting comics "written for the trade" still end up being bad trades.
+
+People still buy Batman Year One and Dark Knight Returns and Infinity Gauntlet
+
+They're not buying everything Bendis wrote
+--- 136742271
+>>136742222
+This will just make comic shittier
+--- 136742297
+>>136741530
+A lot of comic art is just bland. I know people keep saying manga art wouldn't save it..but it would help a lot. So many comics just look bland. So many Indie comics either look generic or really amateur.
+--- 136742311
+>>136742200
+Manga is dogshit.
+--- 136742321
+>>136715084
+>third eye
+--- 136742395
+>>136708489
+Start selling self contained issues at places like grocery stores, gas stations, pharmacies, etc. Make them affordable (ideally like $2 a book, adjusting for inflation comic book issues used to be under $2 in today's money), lower the paper and printing quality to get the price down.
+
+The few times my parents bought me comic books as a kid they were confusing as hell. I'd end up in the middle of some story arc with no idea what was going on and wouldn't understand what was going on by the end of the issue. One summer when I was a kid, some motel chain did a giveaway of reprints of classic Superman/Batman crossover comics. They were all self contained stories and I really enjoyed reading them.
+--- 136742396
+>>136742311
+>Manga is dogshit.
+And comics are still nowhere near as popular
+--- 136742405
+>>136742297
+I blame shit coloring. The "realistic" coloring that everyone and their mum does flattens out the image compared to the high contrast that black and white gives. It also removes the ability to use color for focal points, mood, scene changes, and a million other things that color is actually good for.
+--- 136742427
+>>136742396
+mcdonalds is also very popular
+--- 136742450
+>>136721052
+The funniest part was that this was What If Miles Morales was Thor, but he did not have a single personality trait of Miles, they literally just dropped a random black streotype into Asgard
+--- 136742455
+>>136742395
+Cheap garbage is still garbage.
+--- 136742478
+>>136708781
+that's your solution to everything!
+--- 136742533
+>>136742427
+>mcdonalds is also very popular
+Yes. Just like they're trying to be to make money. 
+
+If it wasn't obvious to you Marvel and DC tries to be McDonalds too.
+--- 136742579
+>>136742478
+To be fair to anon, it's not like it has been tried.
+I'm skeptical about his hypothesis, but I don't have data to denounce him with.
+--- 136742580
+>>136742455
+The best years for comic books were when they were cheap garbage!
+--- 136742622
+>>136742405
+nah, it's a problem even at the lineart stage too. So many bland, or ugly faces
+--- 136742647
+>>136742580
+You're thinking of manga
+--- 136742721
+>>136742622
+Yeah, obviously there is bad linework too, but the coloring makes it worse.
+--- 136742724
+>>136742405
+This is probably a wildly controversial opinion, but I think the average Marvel house style comic from the 60s and 70s looks better than the average comic book today.
+--- 136742780
+>>136742222
+>If a character dies then they stay dead.
+are you sure about his?
+--- 136742804
+>>136742724
+Western comic art never looks good.
+--- 136742813
+>>136742647
+lol, DC and Marvel will kill for sales to return to the levels when they were cheap garbage https://www.comichron.com/yearlycomicssales/postaldata/1968.html
+--- 136742872
+>>136742813
+And look at that, manga still sold better. Guess cheap garbage is the best they can do.
+--- 136742963
+>>136742724
+I absolutely agree. Sure there were some boring artists, but they were all playing off amazing artists. The color limitations also meant that they couldn't rely on it so they had to make a good black and white image first.
+--- 136742981
+>>136742963
+Shame they still couldn't compete with the best manga artists.
+--- 136743010
+>>136710964
+>For the first time, ever, Marvel has literally zero books within the Top 750
+Marvel is dying
+--- 136743035
+>>136743010
+The whole west is doing my dude.
+Bow to your manga superiors.
+--- 136743095
+>>136742724
+lol cope its boring as shit compared to random d-list manga
+--- 136743109
+>>136743035
+>>136742981
+>>136742872
+Anon, calm down, you're trying too hard.
+I know this thread upsets you, go take your Metamucil and have a nap.
+--- 136743114
+>>136743010
+It died a long ass time ago anon.
+--- 136743124
+>>136742450
+>but he did not have a single personality trait of Miles
+Because Miles doesn't have any, and that comic made everyone admit that
+--- 136743142
+>>136743109
+This thread emboldens me you fucktard. Finally, comics will die and this board will know peace. It will be glorious.
+--- 136743170
+>>136743109
+I'm pretty sure it's a seething capeshitter that's angry that these threads aren't being taken down.
+--- 136743188
+>>136742580
+But they weren't GARBAGE about it.
+--- 136743215
+>>136743170
+>genuine capeshitters
+Not a thing. I don't get why it's so heard to believe someone is being genuine.
+--- 136743236
+>>136743170
+If anything we should post more of these threads. I love seeing capeshitter seethe.
+--- 136743258
+>>136743170
+>>136739332 →
+Found the seethers.
+--- 136743272
+>>136743188
+they were always garbage
+--- 136743288
+>>136743258
+I would have thought it was by the EEnE shitter.
+--- 136743302
+>>136743142
+cartoons need to die too
+--- 136743328
+so next thread we still shitting on capeshitters lads?I can't wait to see mroe seethe
+--- 136743332
+>>136743302
+Fully agree
+--- 136743342
+>>136737932
+>>136738954
+Marvel and DC sell more because they are collectible items, not because more people read them
+--- 136743350
+>>136743328
+As soon as this one dies out I'll be right on it. I feel my depression clearing up already.
+--- 136743363
+>>136743350
+haha based
+--- 136743385
+>>136743332
+this board sucks and shouldn't exist, nothing the west has made is good.
+--- 136743419
+>>136741530
+It annoys me how black women in comics always look butch as fuck, or are fat as fuck, or both.
+It's like there's a mandate that they HAVE to be as ugly as possible.
+--- 136743426
+wow where are the comic defense force now huh huh?
+--- 136743443
+Comics are over. I'd rather save cartoons. 
+Cartoons have had 1 good cartoon in the past 3 years, Mao Mao, and it got cancelled.
+--- 136743449
+>>136743419
+With faces like Leslie Jones being promoted, they probably think that's what's in.
+--- 136743464
+>>136743443
+One this was posted.
+Two cartoons are deader than comics, including the furshit.
+--- 136743478
+>>136743449
+Are they still even trying to push her?
+I don't even know if I've seen her in anything since that awful Ghostbusters reboot.
+--- 136743491
+>>136743464
+That doesn't change what I said at all.
+--- 136743496
+>>136743464
+nah, cartoons have hope comics are rotted. I can fap to some cartoons
+--- 136743519
+>>136743496
+> I can fap to some cartoons
+Not recent ones. Cartoons are just as rotted as comics.
+--- 136743520
+>>136743496
+Making everything about your dick doesn't help.
+--- 136743535
+>>136743519
+The best cartoons were not because of fapbait.
+--- 136743550
+>>136743426
+WHERE DO YOU THINK WE ARE
+--- 136743556
+>>136743535
+I can't name a best cartoon
+--- 136743565
+>>136743556
+Good thing I used plural.
+--- 136743571
+>>136743496
+Dude if you want to coom just read Zenescope
+--- 136743575
+>>136743426
+They never existed lol.
+Comics have been abandoned for decades. Time to turn this into the anime board.
+--- 136743577
+>>136743464
+>furshit
+I hate this generation.
+--- 136743600
+>>136743571
+ew no manga is better
+--- 136743608
+>>136743575
+/a/ already exists
+--- 136743611
+>>136743565
+Western cartoons have paled compared to anime for decades. All the way back to Battle of the Planets.
+--- 136743626
+>>136743258
+>>136743288
+>Go to another thread to start shit
+>Be upset when they tell you to fuck off
+--- 136743633
+>>136743611
+Im sure youre the kind of guy who thinks I Got Turned into my Sisters Panties and Sent to a New World is AOTY.
+--- 136743647
+>>136743328
+>>136743350
+>>136743363
+I'm not a capeshitter and I despise these threads
+There are plenty of comics that aren't capeshit but chucklefucks like you don't want to listen
+--- 136743657
+>>136711423
+>day of the rope coming soon
+Can't wait to see the mask come off.
+--- 136743659
+>>136741780
+Again, buying a TPB doesn't scratch the same itch as "following" a series. Manga both feels like you can "follow" ongoing titles while also having a good weightiness and ease of use that comic sized proportions just don't.
+--- 136743693
+>>136736582
+fuck Marvel and DC. It's sad, if you ask somebody to think of a comic 97% will bring up capeshit. 
+
+If you ask someone to think of a manga they can say anything from Socially retarded Lesbians to Wizard Ninjas.
+--- 136743696
+>>136743236
+Spamming is against the rules
+--- 136743702
+>>136743659
+Both suck shit. I prefer reading books.
+--- 136743707
+>>136742872
+Those are average sales per issue. That's almost 60 books that averaged over 100k sales per issue. That's a ton of sales.
+--- 136743718
+>>136743647
+This. People complain that there's not enough variety in comics yet they can't read anything that's not the big two.
+--- 136743794
+>>136743718
+>>136743647
+The issue isn't a lack of variety, that's always just been a cope, the issue is that if you're not a "comic reader" kind of person there's not really a good way to filter out the kind of comics you don't care about outside of going by recommendations.
+If I want to search for certain story elements or design decisions or styles, that's not really an option, so you end up either going based on recommendation lists or just browsing random shit on RCO looking for anything that looks interesting.
+--- 136743826
+>>136743647
+they are shit
+--- 136743845
+>>136743826
+What have you read?
+--- 136743857
+>>136743794
+Which is why we need more animated adaptations 
+Preferably non-cape animated adaptations
+--- 136743875
+>>136743857
+That's a shit idea
+--- 136743880
+>>136743857
+No, I'm not talking about not knowing about "the good stuff," I mean there just not being a good way to browse for elements I like and find comics with them.
+There is no comic equivalent to mangaupdates' tag dictionary.
+--- 136743899
+>>136743875
+You're a shit person
+--- 136743916
+>>136743899
+Yes and?
+--- 136743929
+>>136739426
+/a/utist opinions don't matter.
+--- 136743942
+>>136743880
+This is a good idea desu
+--- 136743947
+>>136743142
+>>136743302
+>>136743332
+>>136743385
+Why the fuck did you even go here to begin with?
+--- 136743993
+>>136743947
+For threads like these.
+--- 136744006
+>>136735534
+>Acting as if I wouldn't have said the same thing regardless of the fucking Twitter screencap.
+
+You're delusional and far more of a joke. Just like every East vs West thread.
+--- 136744049
+>>136743993
+You waste your time on the catalog for topics you don't care about for a thread that wouldn't even be guaranteed to present?
+--- 136744053
+>>136743993
+Enjoy having this board live rent free in your head. Cartoons and Comics have contributed more to society than Manga and Anime. That's a fact.
+--- 136744064
+This thread feels like a Discord raid
+--- 136744070
+>>136744049
+Lol, east vs west threads are guaranteed here. They're the highlight of my day.
+--- 136744115
+>>136744070
+>They're the highlight of my day.
+Anon that's really sad
+--- 136744146
+>>136743464
+I imagine you say "deader" as in bad because cartoons are orders of magnitude more popular. There's several popular YouTube channels dedicated to cartoons, can you say the same about comics?
+--- 136744164
+>>136744115
+How so? Don't you want to know how the industry died?
+--- 136744186
+>>136744146
+Lol, they're only popular among manchildren. They sell terribly with children.
+--- 136744199
+>>136744164
+>How so?
+That a fucking 4chan thread is the highlight of your day to day life
+--- 136744201
+>>136744186
+Still better than comics
+--- 136744240
+>>136744164
+>Don't you want to know how the industry died?
+We've discussed since this for over a decade
+--- 136744245
+>>136744201
+They suck about the same. Cartoons have it worse because they're competing with tiktok
+--- 136744264
+>>136744240
+The fact that we still get weekly threads means people enjoy it
+--- 136744314
+>>136744264
+>weekly threads means people enjoy it
+It's just you fags repeating the same shit ad nauseum 
+Any comic people recommend you ignore
+--- 136744345
+>>136744264
+I’m pretty sure it’s the same two anons spamming these threads, Anon. They’re usually deleted unless the janny is a lazy fuck, like with here.
+--- 136744397
+>>136744314
+Because only the big two is considered part of the industry. Don't you read these threads.
+--- 136744481
+>>136744345
+Is it two people filing the threads until 500 posts?

co/136709288.txt

@@ -546,9 +546,6 @@ Fyn,/co/ is and always has been full of faggots, hence the intense female hatred
 --- 136720654
 >>136720236
 No Molly on that list, why is that?
---- 136720685
->>136720654
-Someone with that bad a childhood is going to grow up damaged in some way
 --- 136720706
 >>136719868
 Fan is arguable, I barely care about the comic I just like the threads and making edits and sometimes porn.
@@ -642,3 +639,644 @@ do you hate her more than that cow lady from las lindas?
 --- 136722811
 >>136709288 (OP)
 Queerbaiting like this shouldn’t be allowed.
+--- 136723097
+>>136720046
+Having Lucy return was the kiss of death for this comic. Should have just kept her gone, and let the non-retarded story arcs breathe.
+--- 136723188
+>>136720046
+Lucy should’ve died for real.
+--- 136723429
+>>136719280
+She is pretty terrible, and I see no evidence that Taeshi intends to correct that anytime soon.
+--- 136723581
+>>136723097
+Taeshi should have brought Lucy back when she was still marginally self-aware.
+--- 136724633
+>>136721761
+>>136721922
+God I want to touch James' ass so badly, great work Anon!
+Man if this comic took place in a modern setting I bet Mike would become James' top donator on OnlyFans and spam him messages 24/7. It would be so much easier for him to cheat on Sandy it's not even funny.
+--- 136724797
+>>136723097
+The "plot" was spinning it's wheels even worse than it is now before Lucy came back, do you really want to go back to Mike doing literally nothing and having no presence in the comic while Paulo aimlessly accumulates friends?
+--- 136724973
+>>136721922
+Why can't this be a thing? Look how cute they look together! Look how happy they are! Imagine~
+--- 136725853
+>>136724973
+>Why can't this be a thing?
+>Look how happy they are!
+I think you've answered your own question there
+--- 136726568
+>>136723581
+Lucy should've stayed away
+--- 136726760
+>>136722902
+>"WHUT HAPPENED UHMAYA?"
+>"..."
+--- 136726851
+>>136717954
+Mike suicide arc when?
+--- 136727093
+>>136724797
+Granted, the Paulo show got extremely boring. But it had some potential left in it still, whereas the whole Mike/Lucy dynamic has been a corpse dragged behind the locomotive for miles now.
+Because I refuse to reread this comic past volume 3, remind me: did the "at least your mother loved you" moment occur before or after Lucy came back?
+
+IMO, the ideal version of bcb would have had Paulo having some sort of epiphany, and deciding to "find himself". Then the comic would have had two story arcs wrapped up (Lucy's tsundrama and Paulo's shiftlessness) and moved on to a new arc, maybe focused on Mike/Sandy's relationship, or Abbey's ongoing therapy, or something. After each cast member got a personal sub-story, you'd have an epilogue of some sort that'd show a sort of "where are they now?" of all the characters.
+--- 136727114
+>>136724633
+Do gay guys do Only Fans?
+--- 136727562
+>>136727114
+Nikocado has an OnlyFans, so I’m guessing yes.
+--- 136728875
+>>136722902
+>>136726760
+Someone explain this meme to me I don't get it
+--- 136729214
+>>136728875
+One of them commited a crime and this is the interrogation.
+--- 136729334
+>>136728875
+Look up Steven McDaniels.
+He killed a bitch and the interrogation has a lot of hilarious moments because the cop was an idiot so it got memed.
+--- 136729703
+>>136722902
+Amaya was just hungry and watching Chris took a toll on her mental state, she doesn't deserve this!
+--- 136729795
+>>136726568
+Lucy should have come back as a more likeable broken bird.
+--- 136730041
+>>136729795
+Lucy should have come as a person that while recaying on his bad actitude, geniunelly tries to improve and feels sad when she falls into her old persona temporally. Or just full schizolucy
+--- 136730620
+>>136729795
+>>136730041
+Neither of those, she needed another suffering arc where she tries to pull all the shit Mike endured from her except the other guy doesn't take that shit for long
+--- 136730632
+>>136729795
+come back as a broken slut*
+--- 136730641
+>>136722811
+I don't think yall know what queerbaiting is.
+--- 136730768
+>>136730041
+That sounds like a good alternative, and a probable route for BCB to have gone back when it was somewhat decent. Lucy questioning her own choices and attitude would improve her character by leaps and bounds.
+--- 136730832
+>>136730641
+Post your definition.
+--- 136730861
+>>136730632
+Look at it this way: now we get to see the many ways in which she'll be broken
+--- 136731049
+>>136730832
+I would say queerbaiting is when the creator teases queerness in their work as a sort of marketing tactic aimed at the queer audience. But I think generally the things that get called queerbaiting are when a couple gets teased, but not only does the couple never actually get together, but there is never any actual confirmation of either person involved being queer, or they are both outright confirmed to not be queer at all. I think this situation in BCB is inherently not queerbaiting, because we KNOW that James is gay. He isn’t queerbait. He’s queer, explicitly in the text, and hit on a straight (?) guy. That’s not exactly an uncommon queer experience. It is not suddenly queerbait just because he’s still single.
+--- 136731629
+>>136729795
+It should be revealed that the reason Lucy came back is because no one at the new school would put up with her bullshit because they weren't her childhood friends
+--- 136731820
+>>136731629
+How good would that be? The plan would be to live with her aunt until she graduated but after proving to be incredibly unpleasant the entire school bullied her relentlessly until she came crawling back to Roseville.
+--- 136731960
+>>136731049
+And if BCB is not engaging in queerbaiting due to this particular technicality, yet still teasing the prospect of a queer ship as a marketing tactic, what would you call this instead?
+--- 136731980
+>>136731629
+>>136731820
+That would make a lot of sense, and it would be very cathartic to have some of those people show up and send Lucy into a panic attack.
+--- 136732044
+>>136709288 (OP)
+You guys remember when Taeshi made an offensive fag character that harassed Mike all day, just to have them get hurt, stranded, and left for dead by everyone else in that Halloween comic where he canonically starved to death because no one cared about him because he was a faggot?
+--- 136732354
+>>136709868
+I have yet to see any evidence that Taeshi is capable of resisting the siren call of the goldimald. A pleasant surprise would be welcome but this is the pattern we are stuck with.
+--- 136732365
+>>136723429
+The only times Lucy has been shown to be self-aware is in BCIs (which are non-canon) where they're adults. I doubt she will ever have more than a chapter of lucidity (wink wink) and not burst a vein while attempting to apologize.
+--- 136732393
+>>136732044
+Carson deserved better
+--- 136732404
+>>136732365
+She gained self-awareness during the December era.
+--- 136732421
+>>136732404
+It was a beautiful yet fleeting moment...
+--- 136732507
+>>136721922
+cute!
+--- 136732512
+>>136732421
+A real shame the comic did not use that as a jumping-off point for her character (no pun intended). Even a retreat into personal denial, though frustrating, would at least be understandable so long as the writing openly treated it as such.
+--- 136732520
+>>136731960
+scummy, but not technically queerbaiting, I suppose.
+--- 136732539
+>>136732365
+She's self aware and apologizes all the time, but since she's not spending 100% of her already limited screentime prostrating herself before the comic readers /bcb/ thinks it never happens
+--- 136732555
+>>136731980
+Or having someone ask her if she made any friends at the other school, and Lucy refusing to answer
+--- 136732623
+>>136732520
+I don't see any reason to make such a precise distinction.
+--- 136732664
+>>136732539
+Lucy's apologies ring hollow when she turns right around and behaves like an arrogant jackass, which is exactly what happens after that example. The audience knows that she wants to be left alone and believe she has improved, so this alleged hand-wringing comes off as self-serving.
+--- 136732688
+>>136732555
+I think that Sue already did that.
+--- 136732693
+>>136732539
+It's just the way she switches on and off from apologetic to asshole, which makes sense but she is essentially taking one step forward and two steps back. I don't want her character to be ridden with guilt and anger, what I think would be nice is to see into her life post-december, while she was away.
+--- 136732720
+>>136732664
+Exactly this, she apologizes a lot but since we almost NEVER get to see her thoughts recently, it comes across as a bashful way of shooing her friends away.
+--- 136732875
+Does her therapist know about how Alejandro pins her down in her sex dreams?
+--- 136732998
+>>136732875
+She doesn't have a therapist.
+--- 136733004
+>>136732875
+I seriously doubt that Lucy has gone to any halfway competent therapist. She probably sat in the chair and glared until the end of each session.
+--- 136733091
+>>136732998
+>>136733004
+Half a year of therapy isn't much but there's no way she's not seeing some kind of professional at this point.
+
+>>136732720
+She already told Augustus how she doesn't want them to be her friends. She just wants to sulk with emo boy.
+
+Everybody hugged Lucy when she came back, but Lucy only hugged Augustus. He's her new Mike and she doesn't want to hang out with her old friends anymore
+--- 136733351
+>>136733004
+Oh god, I can see now Taeshi making a flashback chapter where Lucy just owns her therapist and then just sits there sitting on her tea because "she's so mature now amirite guys???"
+--- 136733543
+>>136732664
+What happens after that example is Paulo pushing her to be his gf, and just like every other time she has to get angry before he'll stop
+How it goes everytime
+>sorry for being a shit lol
+>thats ok lets be friends/date
+>nah I'd rather not
+>wtf be my friend/gf or you're an asshole who hasn't changed
+>get bent retard
+>wow lucy's a bitch
+--- 136733832
+>>136733543
+Yeah it's fucked and boring how everyone expects that of her
+--- 136733886
+>>136733543
+>>136733832
+She likes to use others as much as other use her
+--- 136733934
+>>136733886
+Jordan needs rape correction.
+--- 136733956
+>>136733543
+Quite funny because lucy admits that she never thinked paulo as a potential serious romance option, even when she tried to fuck him the moment he gived some compation after mike anhilated lucy mentally. Also he only did after lucy directly admited she was manipulating him, which becomes even more pathethic when she says she didn't date him because "didn't want to ruin you lol"
+>>136732693
+I think lucy can't cope that she is a bad person, and half the time she admits it she expects a head pat to reforce her how she is "changing". Don't you renember how lucy acted after augustus compared lucy trying to fuck him as the same as augustus trying to fuck daisy?
+--- 136733960
+>>136732044
+>where he canonically starved to death
+Where was this stated?
+--- 136733962
+>>136733934
+I think all of you need correction.
+--- 136733995
+>>136733962
+Every gay anon in here needs a boyfriend.
+Maybe they should be more like james
+--- 136734008
+>>136712651
+>the clown car of time travelling children finally resolves itself when their keikakus backfire and turn Mike gay
+>based James negates the psychic wars solely by winning the Mikebowl by default
+--- 136734019
+>>136733995
+James is not a role model.
+--- 136734061
+>>136734019
+Explain how james is not a role model?
+--- 136734073
+>>136733962
+RAPE CORRECTION.
+--- 136734076
+>>136733934
+You must be thinking of Lucy. Or maybe it runs in the family?
+
+>>136734061
+The guy took Mike out for a date hoping he'd cheat on his girlfriend for him, for one. That's pretty cringe.
+--- 136734115
+>>136734008
+All the kids disappear Back to the Future-style while Mike and James kiss.
+--- 136734128
+>Augustus tries to fuck with james because is daisy but male
+Boom james still has some importance in the comic. And don't tell me that "augustus has never shown any sign of bein gay" The guy spended weeks trying to groom daisy so he can molest her, he is not exactly mentally stable you know?
+--- 136734160
+>>136732539
+How does apologizing mean she's not a cunt? Maybe if she wasn't a BPD psycho like Taeshi then she wouldn't have so many things to apologize for.
+--- 136734165
+>>136734076
+Actually its basic gay playbook
+>depressed straight woth shitty gf? Show him how fun being with a guy is and prove everyone is bisexual
+--- 136734176
+>>136734128
+Groomers are heterosexual
+--- 136734218
+>>136733956
+>Quite funny because lucy admits that she never thinked paulo as a potential serious romance option, even when she tried to fuck him the moment he gived some compation after mike anhilated lucy mentally
+Yeah?
+That's her point?
+How's it Lucy's fault Paulo's incapable of taking a hint?
+--- 136734226
+>>136733543
+What happens is Lucy ordering Paulo to go to Daisy's birthday party and getting mega pissed the moment he doesn't just roll over and accept her total dismissal of his feelings as irrelevant.
+--- 136734248
+>>136734218
+My man. She admits that she didn't want to date him to ruin him or some bullshit. Later she brings that all of her moves were emotionally manipulation and she didn't want to date him. How the hell would you think the guy who has been bootlicking a girl for YEARS after she says "lel i was never interested on you. Just ignore the time i tried to fuck you and the obviously romantic experiences we have"
+--- 136734326
+>>136709288 (OP)
+I'm not even gay and highly dislike how much its been token shoved into everything and even I can tell this is the healthiest relationship this dumbass cats ever going to get. And there it goes into the friend zone
+--- 136734333
+>>136734248
+How is that supposed to be her problem, she admits she's a bad person, that she actually had no intention of dating him, was manipulating him and he should stay away, what more is she supposed to be doing here?
+Do you think she owes him pussy because he's got a horrific case of oneitis?
+>you don't wanna fuck me then you should've stayed away from your home and family faggot
+nigga's pathetic
+--- 136734358
+>>136732539
+Poor Paulo, first he gets stuck on that bog witch Lucy, and then when he wises up and finds himself a James Mike snatches him without even trying.
+--- 136734413
+>>136734326
+>im not even gay
+Imagine coming to this thread just to tell lies
+--- 136734437
+>>136734333
+1. Admiting that she is a bad person doesn't make all her actions forgiven, specially when later she tries to hurt him using his delutional crush on her when she runned out of way to dismiss, him trying to make her open. No paulo is mad at her because the emotional manipulation but he never said that she wanted her to fuck on, FUCK even later on the series he tries to help her and what does he get? Emotionally atacked, then he reminds lucy how augustus is not a pushover who won't instantly kneel to her, and she slaps him. You can't say that she changed after she tries to emotionally hurt him with the same thing she supposedly feels "guilty" about. Fuck lucy and that double standard bitch, she pulled the same to mike and latter daisy. And no lucy doesn't own sex with paulo, paulo is a mega simp
+--- 136734467
+>>136734333
+Oh also that was after lucy tells him "duh i am not your friend anymore, i preffer emo di.. i mea emo friendship". Paulo probally thinked that he choosed to came back and obviously how the hell does he expect to feel after she cames, pretends to be his friend and later ditch him the moment it is convinient for her. Fucking hell the idiots of her friends open in welcome arm in hallowen
+--- 136734495
+>>136734437
+>Emotionally atacked, then he reminds lucy how augustus is not a pushover who won't instantly kneel to her, and she slaps him
+Huh, I don't get how you could've read this page and come away with that take, I unironically think you might be mistranslating something because he's just calling her a slut and implying she's fucking Augustus, there's nothing about augustus being a pushover or anything, meaning this convo's kind of fruitless since I can barely make out what your argument is in the first place.
+--- 136734548
+>>136720531
+nta but heres something I drew, more finnlix is desperately needed
+--- 136734600
+>>136734333
+Paulo has turned quite into a pathetic character, but Lucy has used him multiple times knowing full well that he has a crush on her. I don't think Paulo only wants sex from her but he's looking to have a relationship with her. The problem is mostly in the fact that Lucy has told him to piss off before, and Paulo has (At least twice) accepted the fact that Lucy was a no-go, just for her to turn around and fool around with him again (When she almost used him as a rebound from Mike - When she had sex with him during the play - When she acted all buddy-buddy with him just to mess with Augustus and Jordan). I don't like Paulo like I used to, but I think he's justified in feeling confused and confronting her. She keeps toying with his emotions in a very ugly way and she's been part of the table for a very long time, you can't just say "I don't want to be with you guys" to your lifelong friends and expect them to immediately drop you from their lives.
+--- 136734662
+>>136734495
+1. When he tries to help her, what does he gets? She dissmisses her attempts on helping her as "him trying to fuck him". Because she apperently forgets that even when he tries to fuck her, he still his friend. And don't forget how she pulls the card off "Well we aren't friends"
+>because he's just calling her a slut and implying she's fucking Augustus
+Yeah no shit. After she implies that he is a manwhore who is helping her because she wants her on the bed, yeah paulo wants to fuck her but he geniunelly cares about her and the helping attempt was geniune instead of a plan to have sex. Don't forget this is the same cat that she pratically adopted her, and trowed all her friendships for him. Because "they didn't help her enough". Fucking hell even later she tries to guilt trip him over her suicide, even when she closed on her room, and when she came she just kinda ignored everyone. You can't blame paulo because she for some reason doesn't tell him exactly why she owns augustus so much
+>there's nothing about augustus being a pushover or anything, meaning this convo's kind of fruitless since I can barely make out what your argument is in the first place
+I am saying that lucy got so asshurted about it, because paulo remind her how augustus rejected her when she tried to pull that bullcrap on him
+--- 136734762
+>>136734548
+Thank you drawfren, Finnlix is a precious commodity.
+--- 136734860
+>>136734333
+>what more is she supposed to be doing here?
+Jump off a (higher) building, again. Maybe she'll make it this time.
+--- 136734894
+>>136734333
+She needs a higher building
+CAN YOU TAKE ME HIGHER
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhAFbwoaH7o [Embed]
+--- 136734926
+I'm sure he's around. He'll be back sometime, maybe.
+--- 136734948
+Which one of you drew that Lucy with a dick
+
+>>136734860
+No, she's too stupid to kill herself by jumping. Now that Paulo and Mike aren't protecting her, she can probably pull off drowning herself this time.
+--- 136734968
+>>136732539
+The issue I have with Lucy is more in how other characters react to her. Mike/Paulo/Daisy/other will occasionally talk about how Lucy is a jerk, how she pushes them away, how she's selfish, etc., but they never stop wanting to be her friend. The cast act like Lucy is this great friend, but it's shown that she's not.
+
+They all throw her a surprise birthday party with a cupcake and presents, which she trashes. Everyone wants to tell Lucy their secrets and insecurities, even though she reacts with disdain and sarcasm. It's bizarre.
+--- 136735020
+>>136734968
+Lucy is an invincible Mary Sue that's why you just have to like her because... YOU JUST HAVE TO OKAY THAT'S THE PLOT OF THE STORY?!?!!
+--- 136735127
+>>136733886
+--- 136735131
+>>136734968
+None of the main characters have any reason to stick around each other but do so regardless, it's not just a Lucy problem.
+--- 136735138
+TLDR the thread, saw Second Confrontation updated and came to say thanks for the read
+
+Another absolute banger
+--- 136735145
+>>136734333
+>and he should stay away
+And yet she approach him herself
+--- 136735168
+>>136734333
+>admits she's a bad person
+>keeps on being a cunt
+what's your logic here? The main problem isn't her apologizing, it is her not changing at all.
+--- 136735177
+>>136733995
+James NEEDS to be my boyfriend. He is confident, kind, funny, silly, perseverant, fit, and most of all, a winner.
+--- 136735234
+>>136735177
+That's true, so why should he be dragged down by a loser like you?
+--- 136735336
+>>136735234
+He's the only reason I haven't LUCY'D myself off a building this last year and a half
+He is a bright pure sunshine who could cure anyone of any depression or mental illness
+--- 136735517
+>>136734948
+which lucy with a dick
+--- 136735562
+>>136709546
+lol. I didn't have the audio on so the whale showing up surprised me.
+--- 136735889
+>>136733091
+>>136735517
+This one
+--- 136735974
+>>136734548
+Glorious.
+--- 136736359
+What story direction could turn Lucy into a likeable character? Tired rape correction memes need not apply.
+--- 136736405
+>>136736359
+None. The best thing they pull off is paulo saying lucy to fuck off, or augustus getting into the hospital because alejandro found him alone or something along the lines, that will make lucy ACTUALLY reflect instead of just admitting her problems in a half assed way, and going back to her same routine
+--- 136736471
+>>136736359
+The current direction where she's nowhere present in the comic
+Barring that, have her squash her beef with everyone. Stop being so damn angry and aggressive all the time to people who supposedly are your friends. They can only care about you for so long before they just get tired of you pushing them away. Augustus should be what James is to Mike, supportive and rehabilitative to her mental state. If it takes a while, sure, let it simmer in the background. But goddamn that arcade scene really felt unnecessary until it showcased how caring James was he temporarily ditched his friends to go find Mike when he had the clouds fog his mind with sadness. Either she makes up with everyone or she stays gone. But she can't be around everyone as she is now without changing how she acts.
+--- 136736505
+>>136736359
+Have people be fed up with her bullshit. Have the people she "don't want to be friends with" decide to just ignore her
+--- 136736591
+>>136735127
+Finally
+
+>>136735138
+She must be on her best behavior, not being on all fours when she's taken for walkies!
+
+>>136735517
+The one that appeared on bcbnsfw
+--- 136736651
+>>136735127
+>Lucy's face contorts into a bile-vomiting sphincter while Paulo is distracted
+--- 136736905
+>>136736359
+A combination of this >>136736505
+And saying sorry and try to make amends, and i mean actually saying sorry, not the dismissive and angry "Sorry that you feel that way" kind of sorry, i mean actually regretful she was an asshole, the best we had was the angry "IM SORRY, OKAY?!?!?!" that she gave to Paulo... and then she tried to pull the same shit again becouse it was convenient for her
+Or if not that, just have everyone remember who she really is, teenagers had dropped friends over way less bullshit
+--- 136737100
+>>136736651
+>aka whenever she opens her mouth to speak
+--- 136737214
+>>136736905
+that's what fucking baffles me the most, teenagers drop their friendships over things like not having the same interests or sheer boredom. Why does the main cast still stick together? They've had fights over way worse things and for some godforsaken reason they still think of, for example, Lucy as a good friend.
+--- 136737241
+>>136736651
+I like your interpretation. It can either be seen as Paulo punching Lucy's face in, or her having a shit-spewing worm face. Both fit.
+--- 136737289
+>>136736359
+Nothing can change the damage that has been dealt to her character. She is the definition of first-world problems, sulking and malding over the stupidest shit like she doesn't have a happy, well-off family in the suburbs, that she doesn't have talent for singing and apparently has a gorgeous voice, looks and personality (???) in-universe.
+--- 136737335
+>>136728875
+Stayvun
+--- 136737416
+>>136717954
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yqOaQqgJdI [Embed]
+--- 136737491
+>>136728875
+>Stayvun kills female student he was stalking in his building
+>Stayvun is being briefly interviewed on TV as he pretends to help look for her
+>gets told by the reporter that a body has been found
+>has a panic attack on TV as he's talking
+>acts like a catatonic super turbo wierdo droid that that can only say yes no and I don’t know during the police questions 
+>detective Patterson gets a phone call as he's talking to Stayvun
+>Does a near horizontal back lean as he reaches for his phone making the chair strain and creak
+--- 136737643
+>>136735168
+My point is it's not her problem that he keeps trying to force her to be his friend, it's like the frog and the scorpion but the frog is told the scorpion is going to sting him, he gets stung, survives and keeps giving the scorpion trips across the river, Lucy's aware of her problems and even tells him multiple times what she's like, she's even capable of holding back her autism until Paulo pushes too far, which he always does because he's a simp and hopelessly attached to the one girl that doesn't like him.
+Also you act like she isn't perfectly capable of being nice to the people she's chosen to still care about, Augustus, her brother, even Daisy and Sue despite her still not wanting to be friends with them.
+--- 136737708
+>>136709308
+And here come the gaggle of dickheads to interrupt. Now THATS Taeshi comedy!
+--- 136737817
+>>136713121
+I loved drawing James and Mike content but lost interest, I'm just wait to see how Tae handles this before I rage and draw Lucy rape in retaliation.
+--- 136737856
+Danny a cute
+--- 136738102
+>>136737643
+>Also you act like she isn't perfectly capable of being nice to the people she's chosen to still care about, Augustus, her brother, even Daisy and Sue despite her still not wanting to be friends with them.
+Not him, you have a good point, how much fault falls on the character if everyone else disregards her failings? Like, Lucy was a bitch to everyone but Daisy for example didn't really hate her for that, she hated her becouse she was the center of attention
+Its really odd how it works actually, these people are friends with Lucy but before she left and came back they didn't really spend time with her or interact much, have nothing in common, are mean to eachother and didn't really talk much either, there should be a limit on how much you can stretch "friends from school"
+But also, we really shouldn't act like this is a real person, its a character made by the author, she arranged things to be like that
+--- 136738328
+>>136737643
+>Also you act like she isn't perfectly capable of being nice to the people she's chosen to still care about, Augustus, her brother, even Daisy and Sue despite her still not wanting to be friends with them.
+Not that anon, but that's exactly the problem. Lucy can act nice when she wants to, yet it's largely just that: An act. She is at her heart a person with very little patience toward others, a short fuse, and a self-righteous attitude. Her self-critique only lasts so long as the other person stays in whatever lane Lucy has pre-scripted for them in advance. When they step out of line, she loses her temper and lashes out. Augustus is the big obvious exception that Lucy grants more leeway, but then he is the one she relies upon most and--if nothing else--Lucy did learn not to treat her emotional foundation like trash.
+--- 136738604
+Lets just have a quiet moment before the moment is ruined. It could have been soo good bros...
+--- 136738738
+>>136738604
+How cathartic would it be for Daisy to come out and urge Mike to just cheat on Sandy for reals already? She gets to fawn over Mike's clandestine homosexual romance while getting secondhand revenge on Sandy, while Paulo has to grapple with this new side of Daisy he's just seen.
+--- 136738780
+>>136738738
+>Cuckqueen Fujo Daisy tries to get Mike and James to fuck Paulo while she schlicks in the corner
+--- 136738846
+>>136738780
+It's better if Mike and James fuck off on their own while Paulo continues to seethe about getting left behind. Daisy x Paulo relies on the two lacking any alternatives to each other.
+--- 136738944
+>>136737643
+>too far, which he always does because he's a simp and hopelessly attached to the one girl that doesn't like him.
+Kek? Lucy has shitty autocontrol. If she didn't want to talk about it make a fucking stand and say no, and explain why you don't want to talk about it. Instead of saying it two times and trying to go away. Also mike trying to be friends again and lucy lashing out the moment mike implies that she wasn't in the rigth
+--- 136739266
+>>136737643
+Paulo was never a chad now that I think of it, he was a manhwhore. Which makes me miss chad Mike even more...
+--- 136739274
+>>136738738
+>While Paulo has to grapple with this new side of Daisy he's just seen.
+That could be interesting but the comic suffers big time with characters revealing new traits and never being treathed or explored upon. Even weirder when daisy has acted so many times in similar ways, so it can be considered actually a consistent facet of her persona, which makes it weird considering how is never touched or explored
+--- 136739311
+>>136739266
+manwhore*
+--- 136739335
+>>136738604
+It's over...
+--- 136739619
+>>136738944
+>Kek? Lucy has shitty autocontrol. If she didn't want to talk about it make a fucking stand and say no, and explain why you don't want to talk about it. Instead of saying it two times and trying to go away.
+>if you don't want to talk about it and they won't let you just walk away just give in and tell them why because this guys pathetic and won't stop pestering you
+That seems a lot like talking about it to me.
+>Also mike trying to be friends again and lucy lashing out the moment mike implies that she wasn't in the rigth
+Idk which moment you're talking about, you mean right after she came back or do you mean at the end of EF, if it's the former then idk what you could mean about Lucy lashing out considering Mike's the one that sperged at the end
+--- 136739712
+>>136739619
+>if you don't want to talk about it and they won't let you just walk away just give in and tell them why because this guys pathetic and won't stop pestering you
+Man can't you make an argument without bastardizing what i said to the eleventh potency? I said 
+1. Make a stand
+2. Explain why don't you want to talk about it
+Not
+1. Make a stand
+2. Call your friends pests because they are being annoying
+>You know that you can tell someone kindly to fuck off without telling them to fuck off?
+Idk which moment you're talking about, you mean right after she came back or do you mean at the end of EF, if it's the former then idk what you could mean about Lucy lashing out considering Mike's the one that sperged at the end
+Rigth after she came back. Mike did nothing wrong, but the moment mike said that "Everyting i said is not true". Lucy taked it as "Everything i said is true"
+--- 136739841
+>>136737643
+>Also you act like she isn't perfectly capable of being nice to the people she's chosen to still care about, Augustus, her brother, even Daisy and Sue despite her still not wanting to be friends with them.
+Lucy called Daisy boy-crazy both to her face and behind her back, thinks it's funny to needle Jordan and Sue's insecurities and thinks of them as losers, and is friends with Augustus because she can be as venomous as she wants around him.
+At her absolute nicest, Lucy has enough social awareness to attend events she's invited to and talk semi-politely. And even then, she often takes the opportunity to get a few sarcastic barbs in.
+--- 136740269
+>>136739712
+If you have to explain the situation then you're talking about it, how aren't you getting that, and once again, she has flat out told paulo they aren't friends anymore, multiple times, she has zero obligation to explain why exactly she doesn't want to be around them
+>Mike doesn't want to be friends with Lucy
+>instead of telling her this he ignores her for months and then snaps on her when she acts nice
+>Mike is the victim in this situation, Lucy bad
+>Lucy doesn't want to be friends with all of her old group
+>comes right out and says she doesn't want to be friends but is amiable when they're forced together anyway 
+>snaps when they won't stop pushing her to be friends
+>Friend group is the victim in this situation, Lucy bad
+Right after she came back?
+The way it actually happened was Mike saying he didn't mean what he said, Lucy asking what he did mean, and Mike clamming up before accusing her of only wanting to date him, then MIKE lashes out because Lucy used the Sandy word
+A lot of the time people here feel like I warp what they say, but I'm merely pointing out that either A) It didn't happen that way because we can go look at the comic for the truth and B) /bcb/s notion of what is and isn't an ok way to act is out of line with reality, IE saying "I don't want to talk about it" and walking away not being more than enough to end someone's prying into your private life.
+>>136739841
+Daisy is boy crazy though, it's not like it's talking shit to point out a fact you've already pointed out before, and it's definitely not a good thing considering how her relationship with Abbey ended (Abbey insane with jealousy because his gf was a ho)
+Idk how you can misconstrue this page and those preceding it as being anything but a sincere attempt at getting Daisy to realize she needs to take care of herself instead of chasing cock 24/7
+(even after getting shit on by Daisy she still defaults into caring for her)
+--- 136740383
+>>136740269
+>If you have to explain the situation then you're talking about it, how aren't you getting that, and once again, she has flat out told paulo they aren't friends anymore, multiple times, she has zero obligation to explain why exactly she doesn't want to be around them
+Kek? The problem is that lucy says that but casually goes around with him. That happened in hallowed and that happened in the wheel, fucking hell they were casually talking before that. Infact is even worse
+Mike doesn't want to be friends with Lucy
+>instead of telling her this he ignores her for months and then snaps on her when she acts nice
+>Mike is the victim in this situation, Lucy bad
+>Lucy doesn't want to be friends with all of her old group
+>comes right out and says she doesn't want to be friends but is amiable when they're forced together anyway
+>snaps when they won't stop pushing her to be friends
+>Friend group is the victim in this situation, Lucy bad
+Retard. Two wrongs don't make a rigth, and mike haved a geniune reason to be mad at lucy, fucking hell he even was open to forgive her if she geniunelly apologized, i don't think you need to be tell why mike won't put with abusive behaviour. No i am not defending mike in any way, what he did was shitty and the whole parasite was horrible. Also lash out? There is telling lucy to not bring sandy but that is not lashing out. How in the fuck is telling someone not to bring his girlfriend in a situation that doesn't have anything to do with it is lashing out?
+Basically
+1. Mike did wrong yes, but it is more obvious on why he is mad than why lucy is mad
+2.Two wrongs don't make a rigth, mike geniunelly wanted to be friends again
+--- 136740399
+>>136739841
+>thinks it's funny to needle Jordan and Sue's insecurities and thinks of them as losers
+The only insecurity she pokes at is the one she has a right to (being forced into a play she didn't enjoy) and Sue obviously gets that it's a joke ie picrel, as for Jordan they swipe at each other constantly, they're brother and sister, that's just how it goes.
+--- 136740535
+oh god the lucyfag is writing paragraphs again I'll see you guys next week
+--- 136740556
+>>136740399
+>Making fun off mike guilt over her suicide
+Yeah sure lucyfag. No just because he technically caused it doesn't mean he deserves it. No one with two fingers would kill himself because his friend say bad stuff to him, even when you haved the chance. And no because you were the one who tried to kill yourself doesn't mean you can atack the guilt that they suffer because your actions
+--- 136740854
+>>136740556
+>Lucy's the one who tried to kill herself but can we please think about how being reminded of that makes Mike feel
+I couldn't imagine being this disconnected from actual human emotion.
+--- 136740976
+>>136740854
+Nigger trying to kill herself beacuse "crush said bad things" is irrational and no one would expect that. And just because she feels "le bad" doesn't mean she has the rigth to atack emotionally someone you know?
+--- 136741113
+>>136740976
+Lucy doing anything to remind Mike of the night she tried to kill herself is an emotional attack but Mike gaslighting someone he knows has an unhealthy dependence on him is just something she needs to get over, I don't know how you can rationalize holding both these positions, even despite your disingenuous downplaying of what Mike actually did.
+--- 136741197
+>>136738604
+Such a shame. Mike desperately needs someone like James, who will just love him and give him the confidence he needs to rebuild his shattered self-esteem.
+--- 136741281
+>>136741113
+Man what the fuck are you talking about
+>Lucy doing anything to remind Mike of the night she tried to kill herself is an emotional attack
+Man it was clearly an insult directed to mike, augustus even says something along the lines "damn bitch that is tough"
+>Mike gaslighting someone he knows has an unhealthy dependence on him is just something she needs to get over, I don't know how you can rationalize holding both these position
+Mike never gasligthed lucy. What the fuck you are talking about? What mike did was trying to get away from her, in a really shitty and inmature way but still. Also how would you think lucy would have taked mike saying her wrongs, even if he did it in the most tastefull manners, unless you think that mike being a good boy and acting as lucy personal punching bag is normal
+--- 136741297
+>>136737643
+>Lucysimp
+This nigga pays for BCB LMAO
+--- 136741408
+>>136741281
+I don't know how to handle talking to someone who can hold a completely schizophrenic view of reality, it's actually exhausting trying to point out how contradictory the shit you say is.
+--- 136741560
+>>136741408
+Literally no fucking argument. Explain me this. It is okay if a person A atacks person B guilt over a tragic action, just because persona A suffered the worst?
+--- 136741611
+>>136740854
+Suicide is a shameful and embarrassing crime against God and Lucy should not be validated for having attempted it. If God loved her he would have sent a James into her life.
+--- 136741642
+>>136709464
+>like back in 2008
+lol wut were you even alive in 2008 zoom zoom? maybe in a third world shithole (since you defaulted to gopniks) but there werent fag lynching squads roaming the streets in the 2000s retard
+--- 136741933
+>>136741560
+Hard to have an argument when you hold two contradictory positions depending on whether it's mike or lucy.
+It's not an attack to be reminded of the bad thing you did.
+Person A (almost died)
+Person B (feels guilty for causing that)
+So yes, if you force yourself to be around the person you hurt like how mike stalked lucy, and that person offhandedly reminds you of the awful thing you did, you have it coming and you have zero right to act like a victim.
+--- 136741989
+>>136741933
+Nigger she isn't just reminding it. She is directly stated to make fun off it, even augustus remarks how bad that is. There is a difference betwen reminding of your guilt and directly atacking it. Tough mike stalking is bad yes
+--- 136742030
+>>136741642
+There's some stolen valor faggots in these threads who talk like they got fag-dragged if you say that millennial teenagers weren't that much less accepting than the current generation.
+--- 136742680
+>>136740854
+>>136740976
+>>136741611
+Imagine how much better this comic would be if Lucy was fuckikg dead.
+--- 136743320
+>>136741989
+it is just reminding though, she joked about her suicide in a private conversation with a friend that mike only heard because he's still stalking Lucy, ik that page is a mess but he's sitting around her house going in circles, if you can't joke about something bad that happened to you because the perp might hear it then idk, that sounds like a pretty shitty way to live
+--- 136743404
+>>136740269
+>girls want bad boys
+>boys want bad girls
+>gays want straight boys
+--- 136743424
+>>136742680
+To good to be true 
+>>136743320
+Doesn't she directly states how she knows that she is hearing? At that point is sadist teasing
+--- 136743459
+>>136743404
+>boys want straight gays???
+--- 136743754
+>>136735336
+I wish I had a gay friend like James
+--- 136744215
+>>136738604
+Look what I can do!
+--- 136744385
+>>136744215
+GOOD SHIT, ANON
+--- 136744432
+>>136737643
+>Also you act like she isn't perfectly capable of being nice to the people she's chosen to still care about
+
+She uses people, it's different.
+She is incapable of being genuine. The bitch isn't called "bitch" for nothing.
+--- 136744461
+>>136737643
+Also, thank you for rekindling my Lucy-hatred with even more strength. Off I go to draw more Lucy abuse!
+--- 136744479
+>>136737708
+Lucy hatred*
+--- 136744550
+>>136740269
+Man at this point I just ACHE for the friend group to drift away and see how she reacts. They keep on trying to win her back and I can't help but wince.
+--- 136744598
+>>136740535
+You made me chuckle, Anon. Thanks.
+--- 136744614
+>>136744550
+Taeshi doesn't have the balls to change the status quo like that, remember after witch hunt when everyone was convinced Mike and the friend group fell out?
+And then the next chapter they just pretended nothing happened?
+We spent 9 months on that chapter Lol, just watch, Paulo's going to completely forget he fought with Lucy again.
+--- 136744645
+>>136742680
+Should've stayed at her aunt's pissing in lemonade stands.

co/136709429.txt

@@ -104,11 +104,6 @@ Not in the city, who after its reform, does rather well.
 >>136709429 (OP)
 >oh wait but he did something bad so now we can discard all of his critiques because he is le evil
 Works in real life too
---- 136710440
->>136709429 (OP)
->Le racism is bad... because...it just is, Okay?!
->Get to finale
->Racism is bad because...you are a dying race and we say this just now because... we just said so, okay?
 --- 136710451
 >>136709612
 That faggot is a cuck and I don't know why people flock to his shitty philosophy.
@@ -338,3 +333,1410 @@ You know the post you quoted is critical of Putin, right?
 >>136722556
 >you can't claim it was slowly building up when it is entirely non existent in the previous series
 Actually, with a time skip, you can.
+--- 136724599
+>>136709570
+Ukraine was killing people from independent republics for the past 8 years tho. Like it's weird how people just pretend Russia intervened in a vaccuum. That and all the weird fucking nazi shit Ukraine is involved with.
+--- 136724636
+>>136714524
+This is a common lie. Nick gave Bryke and co the opertunity to make the show that they wanted, and they opted for more self contained seasonal plots over a grand story. The writers fucked up
+--- 136724689
+>>136724599
+>He bought the propaganda
+Russia invaded a foreign country it didn't need to, that's all that really matters
+--- 136724720
+>>136711975
+>>136716920
+That is a fucking shit ass excuse hiding being reason you fanboy spics, stop trying to justify shit writing
+Also go back to TV tropes with that corny reaction image you out of touch oldfag, kys
+--- 136724739
+>>136711975
+Reasonable consequences can also be deus ex machina, they should hinted at this earlier rather then bring it up at the finale
+This is fucking stupid and anyone who says this is shit was good is a dumb retard blinded by product loyality
+--- 136724807
+>>136724689
+Do you have any idea the attrocities the US has willfully backed and orchastrated? Spare me your muh russia shit
+--- 136724969
+Korra writing is so fucking lazy
+>Too guttless to make republic city actually discriminate against non-benders in a way that needed to be rectified
+>Unalaq's condemnation of loss of spirituality in the water tribe turned out to be totally baseless, he just wanted power
+>Raava and Vaatu, initially suggested to represent good and evil, didn't actually end up being stasis and change, and korra's big decision was to leave big dumb spirit doors open rather than allow Vaatu (who shouldn't have been evil) to be free 
+
+The biggest missed opportunity was the red lotus though, because they could have been written to have an actually good reason to want to destroy the avatar spirit. It is loyal to the planet, not humanity, and it could turn out that the avatar spirit periodically destroys human civilization, even against the will of the current avatar, to prevent advancement of human technology and bending from being able to do permanant damage to the world. 
+
+But no, the air weeb and his retard friends want to kill the avatar because muh no gods no masters.
+--- 136725207
+>>136724807
+>Whataboutism
+Cringe
+--- 136725230
+>>136709429 (OP)
+Discussions about Hitler belong to >>>/his/
+--- 136725246
+>>136710920
+Wait so that entire arc is just an attempt to own BenxGwen shippers?
+--- 136725285
+>>136710440
+How does this even work? They are racist to other species so they are speciest. They "inbreed" amongst themselves which is to say they reproduce within their own species like every other species? How are they a dying race? Its like saying humanity is a dying race because humans only reproduce with other humans and they have to fuck a mushroom or whatever and produce hybrids to keep going
+--- 136725306
+>>136710352
+But that's the point, if there was not a single iota of resistance to a change from a council of benders to a presumably fairly elected non-bender, then how would non-benders believe for a moment that the benders were oppressing them when seemingly everyone was chill with everyone else.
+
+Because otherwise it comes across that non-benders never really had any problems other than being stupid for being so easily manipulated and every one agreed that's what happened and no one held any resentment towards any actions taken during the entire season.
+
+Which is pretty lazy and handwaves away any problems that could have been there. Just all magically fixed, which makes it crazier that more bad people keep popping up since seemingly this utopia exists
+--- 136725334
+>>136725285
+Dwayne MCCuck is a fuckin hack. What do you expect ?. Muh racism is all that nigger could write home about.
+
+May he rest in piss for ruining Benjamin.
+--- 136725742
+>>136709474
+Only way to kill the idea is to find who thought of it, let the people know whose idea it was, and then quell it so no one may dare have same.
+Do you understand?
+--- 136726481
+>>136709429 (OP)
+The problem with Amon is that he's a hypocrite
+--- 136726715
+>Ok so this guy, Amon, has power to take away bending...
+>Wait, how can he do that? Isnt that something that only Avatar could do and it was so powerful it was basically culmination of Last Airbender? How do you explain that?
+>Uhhhh, BOAT EXPLOSION
+>But you didnt explai..
+>Its over, he died. Move on.
+--- 136726766
+>>136724689
+>propaganda
+That's all true as is NATO aggression, though it is an excuse for Putin to invade, because he's a retard that has some cobbled together nationalist bend where he likes the tzars, likes the USSR because of their power but decrys Lenin. No principals, no material analysist just nationalism and vibes.
+
+Putin isn't invading because they've been shelling regions or running what are essentially pograms on romani people or people who identify as russians, he's not invading because the Ukrainian government loves boosting their nazi collaborator history and decrying their partisans but those things are happening.
+--- 136726846
+>>136725306
+The show is written by retarded liberals, that's why they strawman every revolutionary they make a bad guy and why when the bad guy loses they immediately talk about how "there has to be another way!" and they achieve that way very simply, when in real life it's never that simple. Like, just look at the lore for how the colonies and what happens to them come about and it's aftermath then compare it to any real life scenario, it's fucking embarrassing. 
+
+I mean, it's a kids show filled with powerful benders so who cares, though it is funny they have a capitalist character that profits off both sides of conflict and collaborates with the S4 dictator to build her a big laser then just gets off scot free at the end of the series. I suppose they nailed that part.
+--- 136729295
+>>136710440
+Not to mention the Highbreed got off scott free with everything they did (including mass genocide). They should've been thought out far more than just being a one-note racism metaphor plus generic alien invaders. Don't introduce their species lore at the very end, and actually let their be consequences for their actions.
+--- 136729401
+>>136709429 (OP)
+His "critiques" were that non-benders were being oppressed by benders... which isn't true at all? At least Korra never really demonstrated this to be an insitutional issue, like there are bender crime gangs but they seem to blackmail all people, it isn't a specific bender vs non-bender thing.
+--- 136729535
+Amon was fucking terrible. And as far as the Equalists are concerned, he is less interesting than even Asami's father was. 
+
+Amon was a fucking non-character with like <2 minutes of screentime until the finale. And even when other characters were talking about Amon we never learned anything new about him. It was mostly just characters repeating how he was dangerous and or how they were afraid of him. 
+
+And whenever I see people talk Amon up as interesting, I always just see them repeating the ideals of the Equalists. But that just means that the Equalist movement was interesting or had potential. Not Amon. Amon is not and never was the Equalist movement, and the show being too stupid to even recognize that properly was always ridiculous. 
+The neither the ideals of nor circumstances behind the Equalists were born from Amon. And would not realistically end without Amon. 
+I swear. Whenever people propped up the pre-finale Amon as great or otherwise having great potential, they were just enamoured with the mask that they thought was cool and Blum's voice, and then they just applied copious amounts of fanfiction onto the character to make up for his damn near non-existent screentime.
+--- 136729592
+>>136709429 (OP)
+>Alt-Text:The Elite from Superman vs The Elite, Riddler from The Batman (2022), Killmonger from the Black Panther Film, The Flagsmashers from Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Gorr from Thor Love & Thunder and Amon, Zaheer and Kuvira from The Legend of Korra.
+
+I want to see a movie where a character like these ones is the hero, instead of a "sympathetic" villain who the writers have commit acts of brutality so the audience feels better about the heroes defending a harmful status quo.
+--- 136729823
+>>136726715
+They explain it's not real energy bending, he's using bloodbending to block the chakras which achieves the same effect. It's still a terribly developed and rushed plotline but they tried to give it an explanation.
+--- 136729834
+>>136709429 (OP)
+I know who Amon really is!
+--- 136730337
+>>136729535
+I'd say it was more the nostalgia baiting that drew people in than anything. The character design of a charismatic masked man with Steve Blum's voice oozing out of it helped, but it's the fact that the show kept dotting all these little loose lore bits from ATLA that made people think there was far more to him than what we really got. Like the fact he was teaching his followers chi-blocking, which we've only seen Ty Lee do and is supposedly extremely rare to find practitioners. Or how his initial reveal had him making the claim he was a victim of a Fire nation raid that scarred his face and lost him his family, implying that the Equalist movement had longer-running roots than presumably the founding of Republic City as one of the many consequences of the Fire Nation's attempts to take over the world. Or hell, the fact he could do what only Aang could before and outright remove someone's Bending powers, which itself was a gift bestowed by ancient lion spirits to Aang. That, along with all the steampunk tech his group was using, made him and the Equalists seem like they were prepping for their big revolution for way longer than we actually saw on-screen.
+
+But you're not wrong that you could have done this shit with just about any figure, though, and it didn't have to be Amon himself who started this shit. And the writers were way too eager to dispense with any of the implied mystery involved in Amon once they revealed that he made everything the fuck up and it was clear that the Equalists would be completely inconsequential after the first season. Everyone got baited into wanting there to be more to Amon than what we got due to all those throwbacks, and what we got was rather barebones at best.
+--- 136730658
+>>136726715
+>>136729823
+I know that's the big theory but I don't think they ever actually claim that his "Spirit bending" was chi-blocking in the show.
+
+The idea of him using blood bending to Chi-block them on the inside is so perfect when those are already his two biggest tools. But that also makes it extra stupid that it's solved by "Oh, uhh, Avatar state spirit bending". How does Aang's spirit bending work to fix a PHYSICAL attack on their nerves? Sure if he was actually using spirit bending, channel Aang to spirit bend them back, but the whole point is that it WASN'T spirit bending, so spirit bending shouldn't be the solution to fix it.
+
+You could easily have had the same stakes/result, with Katara not being able to heal them because she needs to wait for a full moon to blood bend (or multiple if she needs to figure out how to cure them first), leaving tensions high and the danger Amon poses as present.
+
+The only thing more stupid is that his entire movement that had thousands of supporters with valid concerns immediately evaporating the moment he was revealed to be a waterbender, like poof all their woes just vanish and they go home, immeiately forgiving everyone and everything that oppressed them. Especially when he could have so easily just said "It's true, I am a water bender, but I believe in the cause I champion, I believe that nonbenders need to shake off their oppression, that is why I have vowed to never use my waterbending, unfortunately after being unjustly attacked by the avatar, I was forced to use it in self defence.", or hell "Oh, no that wasn't me, that was a body double I hired because I knew the Avatar was planning an assassination attempt, that's why he had burn-scar make up on.".
+
+So many loose ends, plot holes and bad writing when they were on the cusp of something actually great. Same applies to basically every arc of Korra. So many valid causes are thrown away as "Oh, nevermind, the guy was a mustache twirling evil boy."
+--- 136730761
+>>136730658
+Not having Katara cure the benders is such an unbelievably missed opportunity it almost feels like it was done intentionally.
+--- 136730795
+>>136720598
+Every villain /co/ claims 'did nothing wrong and has a point', did everything wrong and had no point.
+--- 136731346
+>>136730795
+Nonsense. YOU are wrong. I am right, That is the simple truth that so many fail to see.
+--- 136732098
+>>136730761
+Katara really gets shafted the most of the living Gaang. A civil war takes place in her backyard and she does nothing.
+--- 136732164
+>>136722251
+Amon was crippled by being a 2 season villain they were told at the last minute to wrap up his story in season 1. He was supposed to have been actually bailed out by spirits at the end of the first season and then been the villain of season 2 where spirits were the main focus of it.
+--- 136732169
+>>136724739
+>Reasonable consequences can also be deus ex machina
+No, buy definition, they aren't. Something that come from a logical sequence of events is everything a Deus Ex Machina isn't.
+
+>>136724720
+>stop trying to justify shit writing
+I am sure that if the writing is shitty, you can come up with actually valid complains instead of making up one that does not apply.
+
+>That is a fucking shit ass excuse hiding being reason you fanboy spics
+Extremely applied racism leading to inbreeding is something that actually make sense, you know?
+
+Full disclosure, I know absolutely nothing about this show and don't even know what it is. All I know is what you have told me about and if Everything I got about this show is your critic and I come to an opposite conclusion than yours, that means you have made a shit ass of a critic.
+
+Like, how did you manage to pull that out? How were you able to commit such a blunder?
+--- 136732182
+>>136732098
+Can we really say that when sokka got cucked, died off screen, and the only thing left of him is being the namesake of Aang's most retarded child?
+--- 136732280
+>>136732169
+>Extremely applied racism leading to inbreeding is something that actually make sense, you know?
+No it doesn't. A culture of arranged marriages leads to inbreeding. Some of the most racist cultures to ever be had strict non-consanguity laws. The meme of le inbred racist is literally an anti-white invention of hollywood kikes. The only nugget of truth is that there was some royalty during the middle ages who defied consanguity laws, but this was not done for "purity", it was a combination of unchecked depravity and wanting to keep inherited political power concentrated in the current family.
+--- 136732306
+>>136732182
+Wait hang on Aang's retard was named Bumi, not Sokka, nevermind, he has even less of a legacy
+--- 136732467
+>>136732280
+>No it doesn't. A culture of arranged marriages leads to inbreeding.
+Extremely applied racism lead to a culture of arranged marriage.
+--- 136732584
+>>136732182
+That's why I had to include "Living", I know Sokka gets cucked to death
+--- 136732609
+>>136732467
+No it doesn't, commodification of children does. For example, today both arranged marriages and inbreeding are most common among muslims, who are generally culturally supremacist but not biological determinists.
+--- 136732712
+>>136732609
+>No it doesn't, commodification of children does
+Extremely applied racism lead to commodification of children.
+--- 136732725
+>>136724599
+>Independent republics
+You mean Russian separatists?
+--- 136732749
+>>136732712
+No it doesn't.
+--- 136732788
+>>136709429 (OP)
+>Amon
+>Good guy
+--- 136732816
+>>136732749
+Oh, it absolutely does. It's an inevitable consequence of wanting the "purest of lineage".
+--- 136732820
+>>136709429 (OP)
+>character has an interesting point about the world
+>oh wait but he did something bad so now we can discard all of his critiques because he is le evil
+--- 136732842
+>>136732788
+Remember how all their complain were actually justified and turned the city in a more democratic institution, regardless of the true motivations of Amon, because there was validity behind this revolt?
+--- 136732867
+>>136709484
+>>136709516
+i forget, why was this guy doing the riddler stuff?
+--- 136732878
+>>136709429 (OP)
+It's pain
+--- 136732897
+>>136732816
+Can you name even a single historical precedent?
+--- 136732914
+>>136732867
+AAAAAAVVVVVEEEEE MAAAARRRRIIIIIAAAAA
+--- 136732924
+>>136732897
+Seeing we have never seen the ideology of modern racism applied for more than a few years, that's not really possible.
+--- 136732933
+>>136732842
+>Remember how all their complain were actually justified and turned the city in a more democratic institution,
+No I don't, because it never happened. The equalists were so retarded and their claims so obviously baseless that, did I not know who wrote them, I would assume they were intended as satire.
+--- 136732949
+>>136732924
+So like I said, you're just making shit up, and pretending hollywood memes are real.
+--- 136733064
+>>136732949
+>you're just making shit up
+Following the logic to its end is not "making things up", anon.
+--- 136733071
+>clear that bends have a massive advantage.
+>Instead of inventing guns they learn kung fu.
+
+This was the bigger disapointment in my oppinion.
+--- 136733079
+>>136732933
+>No I don't, because it never happened
+Season 2 literally start with the City having become a democracy with a non-bender as their president, anon
+
+>and their claims so obviously baseless 
+Season 1 repeatedly showcase abuse of their right even to the point it become forbidden for them to learn to defend themselves.
+--- 136733094
+>>136711085
+So like communists and socalists?
+--- 136733108
+>>136733043
+The city was already a democracy and already had pleanty of non-benders in the highest positions of political, financial, and cultural power. We're also not told of a single way in which non-benders are supposedly discriminated against. Every single equalist is either a moron spouting nonsense, or someone projecting their anger over having been personally wronged by a bender onto all benders.
+--- 136733120
+>>136711085
+>However, within the fiction that we are presented, benders and non benders are treated basically the same.
+We see that it isn't the case.
+--- 136733156
+>>136709429 (OP)
+>character protects the defenseless, restores law from a state of anarchy, removes inept leadership that would have destroyed the fragile state
+>uhh she bad because uhhh suyin always right
+Fuck Suyin, Kuvira was right.
+--- 136733175
+>>136733064
+Your logic isn't sound. A person who believes that those from outside their family are inferior to their own and unworthy of reproduction is not racism because it indicates a lack of trust and belief in your own race.
+--- 136733190
+>>136733108
+>The city was already a democracy
+It wasn't, it had bender representatives hand-picked by the rulers of each nations, supposed to represent the people of the city as they were coming for all the world, but ended up being detached from reality.
+--- 136733192
+Ruined the movie for me that they bitched out like that. Honestly the morality of the film was all over the place if you thought about it for more than half a second (killing dozens of people on the freeway in a high speed chase with the Penguin and just letting him go for instance) but I suppose that's par for the course with capeshit.
+--- 136733212
+>>136733079
+>Season 1 repeatedly showcase abuse of their right even to the point it become forbidden for them to learn to defend themselves.
+You're literally just making shit up. You can't criminalize kung fu and nobody tried. At most the government issued a curfew to try to catch a terrorist, which is frankly pretty reasonable.
+--- 136733216
+>>136733192
+meant to quote >>136719571
+--- 136733245
+>>136733190
+One of the representatives was a non-bender, and we were never told the others were hand picked and not voted for.
+--- 136733250
+>>136733156
+She was a tug who started impose her will to those who didn't want to play ball with her the moment she was popular enough to get away with it and started to trim out anything she viewed as not belonging to her group.
+--- 136733291
+>>136733175
+>A person who believes that those from outside their family are inferior
+It's about seeking to gain the "purest" of lineage. And you get fucking nasty inbreeding following that logic for cats and dog. It doesn't even need to be close relative to start seeing congenital disease for the animal. It's all about seeking to obtain superficial trait of what is perceived as the "pure" race.
+--- 136733332
+>>136733291
+Except what you're talking about doesn't fucking happen. It's fucking made up, a meme. That's not even how animal breeding was done, which was by selection of physical traits. Of course lots of breeds are totally fucked because the traits being selected for were unhealthy, but that's a separate issue.
+--- 136733348
+>>136729592
+To be fair Riddler and Killmonger both inspire BP and Batman to actually take into account why they're such cunts and do better.
+>>136719571
+Except driving a car into a crowded place and trying to murder a guy for being the son of a person he blames for corruption. I can get the "Why don't they ever ake the good guys" argument to a degree but the "they had to make the go overboard so they wouldn't be right" complaints always seem to ignore earlier acts of them showing they're unhinged. Riddler was absolutely deranged from the start.
+--- 136733398
+>>136732924
+>>136733064
+>>136733291
+God, this man is coping about racist supremacy.
+--- 136733400
+>>136733291
+>Redditor tries to elaborate on a thought process he knows nothing about
+--- 136733402
+>>136733212
+>You're literally just making shit up. You can't criminalize kung fu and nobody tried
+That's literally the plot of The Voice in the Night episode where they a raid chi-blocking training facility. Stop arguing if you haven't seen the show.
+
+Also, fun fact, bu in Brazil, Capoeira was developed by slave to learn to fight while pretending that it was actually a dance because they weren't allowed to learn fighting technic.
+--- 136733445
+>>136733332
+>Except what you're talking about doesn't fucking happen.
+We are talking about a fictional show. And it's what has good chance to happen if an extremely racist ideology prevail for long enough.
+
+>That's not even how animal breeding was done, which was by selection of physical traits
+That's literally how racism work and what "wanting to keep the race pure" and wanting to have "ubermensch" lead to.
+
+>>136733398
+Not really, just laying down the facts.
+
+>>136733400
+Congenital issue among race breed in cats and dogs are well known, anon.
+--- 136733471
+>>136733445
+> We are talking about a fictional show. And it's what has good chance to happen if an extremely racist ideology prevail for long enough.
+Nazi Germany literally had far less issues with the poor and rich than America did. The entire philosophy is about treating your race like family.
+--- 136733535
+>>136709474
+First one is exactly why Steven Universe was such a disappointment. They fucking baited people on purpose with that shit (or they thought they could do both because they'd have infinity seasons like AT)
+--- 136733542
+>>136733245
+>One of the representatives was a non-bender
+Don't make things up
+https://www.tumblr.com/tloklorearchive/633079305939894272/united-republic-council-after-the-hundred-year
+>Aside from establishing the United Republic of Nations, a government was also established where one representative from each nation would sit on the United Republic Council. THere are five members in total, representing the Fire Nation, Earth Kingdom, Northern Water Tribe, Southern Water Tribe, and Air Nation.
+
+https://avatar.fandom.com/f/p/2330653173481622156/r/2332088162320534270
+>that led to the non-elected council (of which Tenzin was a member) dissolving itself and the holding of democratic elections.
+--- 136733561
+>>136733402
+They were raiding it because they knew it was a covert equalist cell, chi blocking was never criminalized
+--- 136733585
+>>136733445
+>That's literally how racism work
+Retarded subhuman detected. Race is important specifically for features that aren't visually evident.
+--- 136733591
+>>136733471
+>Nazi Germany literally had far less issues with the poor and rich than America did
+I mean, targetting a group to take all of their possession and then killing them so that they no longer are poor and dead instead is sure a way to deal with wealth inequality.
+
+and I don't know why we are talking about Nazi Germany, we were talking about a fictional story.
+--- 136733607
+>>136733542
+Watch the show, don't parrot blogs that just make shit up
+--- 136733621
+>>136733445
+Nigger racists don't wane on 25/8 about "muh purity." It's 90% just "I hate black people/jews/whatever."
+Seriously. Stop waxing on with this bullshit you read from other faggots on Reddit.
+--- 136733679
+>>136733591
+>and then killing them
+There is zero evidence besides testimonial that the Germans issued an order to kill the Jewish people.
+--- 136733701
+>>136733561
+>They were raiding it because they knew it was a covert equalist cell
+Because he consider all such training facilities to be defacto part of amon's group.
+--- 136733720
+>>136733607
+>Watch the show
+I watch the show. And this is still oficial informations, anon. And you pulling out of your ass that non-benders had a representative is a clear indication that you didn't even watch the show.
+--- 136733751
+>>136733621
+>Nigger racists don't wane on 25/8 about "muh purity." It's 90% just "I hate black people/jews/whatever."
+We are, once again, talking about an extremely racist society. And "Racial purity" is relatively common among racial ideologies.
+
+>>136733679
+>There is zero evidence
+Please show me your Historian thesis that invalidate the work of the vast majority of historians who have studied that matter.
+--- 136733754
+>>136709612
+Ironic Nietche lamented that man killed god, he didn't celebrate it.
+He tried to find cope in a workd without god not go around dancing parading his corpse.
+--- 136733791
+>>136733621
+>Stop waxing on with this bullshit you read from other faggots on Reddit.
+What bullshit, the argument is about a fictional story >>136710440
+>>136710920
+with an extremely racist society. That's the setting. and that it lead to inbreeding is something that make sense when you see what such process does to certain race of cat or dog.
+--- 136733795
+>>136733751
+>We are, once again, talking about an extremely racist society
+Talking out of your ass. Got it.
+--- 136733796
+>>136733720
+>Official information
+Just checked your wiki page, it's from a fucking interview, not the show
+--- 136733824
+>>136733751
+Prove that there isn't a teapot orbiting the sun between Earth and Mars.
+--- 136733829
+>>136733791
+>and that it lead to inbreeding is something that make sense
+No it isn't. A society that considers genetic health to be important would avoid dysgenic behavior like inbreeding.
+--- 136733854
+>>136733824
+>Prove that there isn't a teapot orbiting the sun
+I am not asking you to prove something that might or might not exist, I am asking you to invalidate the work of actual historians and their very real thesis.
+
+I guess you are to used to your little mental flowchart to have noticed it didn't apply there.
+--- 136733877
+>>136733791
+>That's the setting
+Fiction doesn't mean shit because any author can just invent or overlook anything that might be inconvenient to their message.
+--- 136733879
+>>136733829
+>A society that considers genetic health to be important
+wouldn't be racist in the first place The setting of the fictional story here is a racist one, not one concerned by the health of their society. It's not always the same thing.
+--- 136733896
+>>136733877
+There is no overlooking, there, though. It's a rational conclusion based on a premise of a society that care about "racial purity".
+--- 136733906
+>>136733854
+>I'm not asking you to prove something, I'm asking you to prove something else wrong!
+Not how logic or evidence works.
+Also not what the changes in Jewish population between the start and end of the war reflect.
+--- 136733908
+>>136729592
+>Killmonger is le sympatetic villain
+Whenever someone says this I know I'm talking with retard
+--- 136733928
+>>136733896
+>It's a rational conclusion
+No, it isn't, because it doesn't operate under what most racists actually believe, so the allegory is completely fucked. What part of that is so hard for you to understand?
+--- 136733937
+>>136733906
+>Not how logic or evidence works.
+Actually, it is. You are claiming that the vast majority of historian and their work is wrong, it's up to you to prove the mistake in their work.
+
+Until then, the what they have managed to demonstrate remain.
+--- 136733953
+>>136733928
+>No, it isn't, because it doesn't operate under what most racists actually believe
+It operate under the condition of an extremely racist society who care about racial purity, a notion that can be found in several racist ideologies.
+--- 136733984
+>>136733937
+>Actually, it is
+Wrong.
+https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
+
+>You are claiming that the vast majority of historian and their work is wrong
+I am claiming that institutions can promote a narrative without evidence and that the evidence for the Holocaust being used to systematically kill is lacking. "But my sociology professor Rosenburg said otherwise" is not valid evidence.
+--- 136733988
+>>136733906
+>Also not what the changes in Jewish population between the start and end of the war reflect.
+Can you show me the historian thesis that has demonstrated that and resited peer review?
+--- 136734004
+>>136733953
+>that can be found in
+Ask me how I know you're talking out of your ass.
+--- 136734017
+>>136733988
+Can you show me any census from the years in question showing six million Jews were killed?
+You made the claim first. You prove your argument.
+--- 136734021
+>>136733984
+>Wrong.
+>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
+There you are, bringing an argument that doesn't apply to the conversation again. I guess I have broken your little flowchart on you and you are now stuck on repeat.
+
+Again, we are not talking about an hypethtical teapot, we are talking about a vast amount of very real historian thesis that your own work must have invalidated.
+
+>I am claiming that institutions can promote a narrative
+Have you proved that it was the case for the Holocaust?
+--- 136734044
+>>136734017
+>Can you show me any census
+I don't need to show you anything. you are the one claiming that the vast body of historian work is wrong, it's up to you to prove it to me. Show me the peer-reviewed paper that invalidate most of past's work.
+--- 136734056
+>>136722756
+that's the laziest shit ever "it was slowly gradually building into a major issue but we didn't want to actually take any effort to show any indication of it"
+the same thing happened with Korra/Asami, "they totally had this romance building over a long time but we never bothered to indicate it at all" what do you mean it was poorly handled?
+--- 136734066
+>>136733879
+>>A society that considers genetic health to be important
+>wouldn't be racist in the first place
+Holy cope. God punishes the bodies of mixed beings with genetic defects.
+--- 136734068
+>>136733984
+>"But my sociology professor Rosenburg said otherwise" is not valid evidence.
+Not what we are talking about, We are not arguing what some historian professor claimed, we are talking about thesis works that is the result of research and resisted peer-review.
+--- 136734085
+>>136734068
+Professional Rosenburg is literally the one that does this shit.
+--- 136734089
+>>136734056
+>but we didn't want to actually take any effort to show any indication of it"
+The show actually establish that it had been building up for a while and shwocase the abuse of Bending organised crimes and the lack of care by the ruler class.
+
+when you switch from a feudal setting to an industrial one, such development make sense.
+--- 136734102
+>>136734021
+>flowchart
+Russell's Teapot comes from a criticism of shifting the burden of proof in widespread theological arguments against organized religion. To analog the structure lf the argument and yours, it would be like a priest answering the argument with "but so many priests accept and believe divinity, so where's your counter," missing the point entirely.
+
+>we are not talking about an hypethtical teapot
+No, we're talking about a hypothetical kill order. That should be easier to prove. Yet, you have nothing.
+
+>Have you proved that it was the case for the Holocaust?
+You're asking me to do the equivalent of proving a church wrong.
+--- 136734112
+>>136734085
+>Professional Rosenburg is literally the one that does this shit.
+But it's not because he said so, but because he has done research work and made a thesis that resisted peer-review.
+--- 136734149
+>>136734044
+>you are the one claiming
+>>136733591
+>>then killing them so that they no longer are poor and dead
+Oof
+
+>and resisted peer-review.
+Ah, yes, the rigorous experimenting of the Holocaust. That's why it's illegal to investigate the alleged locations of these mass graves for causes of death and why it's illegal to question the Holocaust.
+Nice buzzwords, retard.
+--- 136734151
+>>136734112
+By other kikes and occultist
+God, please make this man develop a brain on how evil functions.
+--- 136734181
+>>136734102
+>Russell's Teapot
+Don't apply to the conversation we are currently having, as it is about very real thesis who have resisted peer-review. Saying "Russel's teapot" again and again won't magically make it any more relvant in this conversation, here.
+
+>Yet, you have nothing.
+I am not the one making claim, you are.
+Please show me the historical thesis that has invalidated the numerous previous work on that matter and proven the historical consensus wrong.
+
+>You're asking me to do the equivalent of proving a church wrong.
+Not at all, Thesis aren't church and are made to be proven wrong. That' the whole point of peer-review.
+--- 136734188
+>>136709474
+He would have been such a great recurring character too as a neutral party who isn't friends with basically anyone except non benders
+--- 136734228
+>>136733591
+> I mean, targetting a group to take all of their possession and then killing them so that they no longer are poor and dead instead is sure a way to deal with wealth inequality.
+The Starving Artist had a country so poor, he had to develop the Rothsmark system to even properly reset the economy and pay people off. And he got out of the Great depression in one or two years.
+Fuck off with your BS history. Paper cuck.
+--- 136734235
+>>136734181
+>Don't apply to the conversation we are currently having,
+"That's different b-because... IT JUST IS, OKAY!"
+
+>I am not the one making claim, you are.
+I just quoted you proving otherwise. You're now blatantly lying to my face and hoping nobody notices you trying to backtrack.
+
+>Thesis aren't church and are made to be proven wrong. That' the whole point of peer-review
+There's literally an article on Wikipedia titled "Legality of Holocaust denial" you lying faggot.
+--- 136734255
+>>136734149
+>>>then killing them so that they no longer are poor and dead
+>Oof
+Not my claim, anon. It's the historical consensus. and YOU are the one claiming that their peer-reviewed work is wrong.
+
+>Ah, yes, the rigorous experimenting of the Holocaust. 
+Historical thesis is based on source and data collecting and first, second and third hand testimonies. Peer reviews verify the validity of those sources as well as the logic and validity behind the observation and conclusions drawn from them.
+
+this is what you have to prove false.
+
+l>>136734151
+>By other kikes and occultist
+Please prove that all the people involved in this have lied or falsified their work.
+--- 136734264
+>>136734228
+Hitler's armament program left the country on the brink of economic collapse that he literally had to invade countries to keep his economy going. They recovered from the great depression because everyone was starting to recover from the great depression, and because as bad as looting economics is it's still better than austerity.
+
+Hitler wasn't good for the economy, the only time you might argue he was was in maybe 1940.
+--- 136734279
+>>136734228
+>The Starving Artist had a country so poor, he had to develop the Rothsmark system to even properly reset the economy and pay people off. And he got out of the Great depression in one or two years.
+That doesn't really justify the rest or invading the rest of the world.
+--- 136734297
+>>136734255
+>Not my claim, anon
+Saying something happened isn't making a claim.
+Sure. Okay.
+
+>{buzzword salad without any backing}
+Do you have anything else, or are we done here?
+--- 136734315
+>>136734235
+>"That's different b-because... IT JUST IS, OKAY!"
+The difference is that those thesis are very real. God, your brain is really unable to work, once you are outside of your flowchart.
+
+>I just quoted you proving otherwise.
+No you quoted me mentioning the conclusion of people YOU claim to be wrong. I am not the one saying the Holocaust happened, Historian did. And you are saying they are wrong.
+
+>There's literally an article on Wikipedia titled "Legality of Holocaust denial"
+We are not talking about the legality of anything, we are talking about actual Thesis you are claiming to be wrong.
+--- 136734335
+>>136734297
+>Saying something happened
+It's not me saying it, it's a vast number of historical thesis who say it. Don't shoot the messenger.
+
+>>{buzzword salad without any backing}
+I don't need to do any backing, YOU are the one claiming that the vast historial consensus is wrong. Prove it.
+--- 136734342
+>>136734264
+LMAO.
+This shit is pure ass projection. America was the poor fuck who pushed the war for the so-called “profits” of war, not Germany. My fucking nation stolen everything from Germany and Telsa, and set the whole fucking world on fire with its evil ass bank.
+I don’t know what demon possesses you to write this garbage. Just know that what you are doing is living a lie that will destroy you.
+--- 136734381
+>>136734342
+>This shit is pure ass projection
+Please prove the many historical thesis backing this to be wrong.
+--- 136734395
+>>136734335
+> It's not me saying it, it's a vast number of historical thesis who say it. Don't shoot the messenger
+We can burn those demonically-made documents and shoot you for promoting their lies.
+You aren’t a smart guy.
+--- 136734412
+>>136734315
+>once you are outside of your flowchart.
+I like how you keep projecting this "flowchart" shit while you're unable to do anything but spout "thesis" as if saying buzzwords alone is an argument.
+
+>No you quoted me mentioning the conclusion of people YOU claim to be wrong
+I said there was no evidence. You've insisted otherwise, but repeatedly gavee contradictions and outright lies (not talking about the claim in question for this point, but stuff about this conversation that you've lied about). As far as standings go, I'm good.
+
+>We are not talking about the legality of anything
+You said the claims are meant to be disproven.
+I'm providing you with evidence that, on several nations, questioning it is literally a criminal act.
+
+I can't blame you for trying to scream THEEESIS five hundred more times, soce every time you've tried to introduce something, you've failed. I hate to be 'that guy,' but so far you're losing the debate here.
+--- 136734416
+>>136734342
+>America was the poor fuck who pushed the war for the so-called “profits” of war, not Germany.
+Germany just wanted to play.
+--- 136734441
+>>136734335
+A vast majority of Victorian preachers believe that God exists. Therefore, God exists. I am not presenting a claim, I am restating a proven historical fact. Don't shoot the messenger.
+
+I don't need to back my claim, you are the one who disagrees.
+--- 136734460
+>>136734381
+Yeah. Like how Germany clearly was a in a much better economic state than Jewmerica was before the golem-allied war. Then, America “generated profits” from participating in the war.
+That’s how my demonic nation boldly claims its fucking “success”.
+--- 136734504
+>>136729823
+
+In fairness, it makes perfect sense.
+
+Obviously somebody who is not the Avatar would be able to use mundane means to block somebody's spiritual power...oh wait, nevermind, that doesn't ANY sense either narratively or mechanically.
+I don't know how this hackery got sequel seasons.
+--- 136734511
+>>136734395
+>We can burn those demonically-made documents and shoot you for promoting their lies.
+Great rational argument bro. Didn't take that long to show your true color.
+
+Aah... The great tradition of burning books. what a memory.
+
+>>136734412
+>I like how you keep projecting this "flowchart" shit while you're unable to do anything but spout "thesis
+I am not the one trying to argue with a logical point that doesn't apply to the conversation. You have been unable to recognise this no matter how often I pointed the issue with its use in our argument. And you are the one who decided to challenge an historical consensus, not me.
+
+>I said there was no evidence.
+Can you show me your peer-reviewed research that invalidate all the previous works about that?
+
+>You said the claims are meant to be disproven.
+In a historical context, not a legal one.
+
+>I'm providing you with evidence that, on several nations, questioning it is literally a criminal act.
+That is a diconnect fact that does in no way prove previous historical works have been invalidated.
+
+>I can't blame you for trying to scream THEEESIS five hundred more times
+You are the one arguing about what we know of History. If you want to talk about rational knowledge, the matter of thesis is inevitable.
+--- 136734524
+>>136734441
+>A vast majority of Victorian preachers believe that God exists.
+Do they have a vast work of sourced researches proving it that resisted peer-review?
+--- 136734560
+>>136734460
+Again, can you show me the the thesis that invalidate the historical consensus that was laid down tot you there>>136734264
+>Hitler's armament program left the country on the brink of economic collapse that he literally had to invade countries to keep his economy going.
+The state of the American economy is of no relevancy on that matter.
+--- 136734570
+>>136710184
+Amon's issue was never about the rulers, just about non-benders being opressed. Non bender became a president, yes, but what changed for the common non-bender?
+--- 136734619
+>>136733754
+I think no kinda get it?
+Mankind instead of aspiring towards a higher plane like the divine, instead they rather pull down the divinity towards their level and thus no need to go for more or have a higher place to look up to. He honestly could've worded it better to sound more like a lament or scolding humanity instead of whatever nihilist idiots spout nowadays
+--- 136734657
+>>136734511
+>I am not the one trying to argue with a logical point
+You can say that again....
+
+>that doesn't apply to the conversation
+The burden of proof is fundamental to any discussion of history and science. If something cannot be proven, it should not be assumed to be true. Having a mass of people in power repeatedly saying that it is true despitethis does not change this, especially if the claim sounds ridiculous to skeptics, be the claim about a teapot in space, the divine, or some systematic genocide that you still haven't proven.
+
+>Can you show me your peer-reviewed research that invalidate all the previous works about that?
+>>Literally an unironic "prove me wrong!"
+
+>In a historical context, not a legal one
+What a stupid semantic argument.
+If you deny the Holocaust in those countries, you are arrested.
+You are claiming those claims can be challenged. But challenging them results in jail. That's not peer review, that's duress!
+
+>thesis
+Oh, look, the NPC can't step outside of his flowchart.
+--- 136734666
+>>136734511
+>Muh book burnings
+Given what they were burning, this was completely warranted.
+--- 136734677
+>>136734524
+Yes, they did.
+Now when are you going to convert?
+--- 136734779
+>>136734619
+One of his most famous phrases is "to live is to suffer. To survive is to find meaning in the suffering". I genuinely don't understand how Nietzhce became this uber-edgy guy in pop-culture.
+
+Camus is better tho
+--- 136734831
+>>136734657
+>You can say that again....
+That doesn't apply to the conversation. you are welcome.
+
+>The burden of proof is fundamental t
+Is up to you, as you are the one who claim the historical consensus is wrong.
+
+>>>Literally an unironic "prove me wrong!"
+You are really bad at reading. Not, me, the whole body of work that resulted from historical research on the matter.
+
+>What a stupid semantic argument.
+It's not semantic, we are talking about historical research.
+>If you deny the Holocaust in those countries, you are arrested.
+That doesn't prove the historical consensus is wrong.
+>You are claiming those claims can be challenged.
+They can. unless it's banned in all countries, they can.
+
+>Oh, look, the NPC can't step outside of his flowchart.
+Not a flowchart, you are the one who claims those thesis are wrong. I explained to you why the teapot argument didn't apply, you haven't done the same about why, when talking about history, we shouldn't bring up historical thesis, especially as you are challenging them in the first place.
+--- 136734845
+>>136734666
+No, it really wasn't.
+
+>>136734677
+How come it is not recognised by the scientific community. there is no consensus about God, there.
+--- 136734910
+>>136734666
+Anon, this anon there >>136734395
+is the one who bring up book burning in the first place.
+--- 136734944
+>>136734779
+Unironically maybe because he had a cool mustache
+--- 136734955
+>>136734944
+It is a pretty cool moustache. The syphilis is a bit less cool.
+--- 136735018
+>>136734831
+>That doesn't apply to the conversation
+Retard too focused on canned answers that he can't see me making fun of his poor word choice.
+Hate to see it...
+
+>as you are the one who claim the historical consensus is wrong.
+I am not. I don't fond sufficient evidence present.
+
+>You are really bad at reading. Not, me, the whole body of work that resulted from historical research on the matter.
+>>"Read a book!"
+
+>That doesn't prove the historical consensus is wrong.
+It directly proves your claim that "muh thesis is le challeneged and reviewed" is explicitly wrong.
+
+>unless it's banned in all countries, they can.
+Implication that in countries where there are ramifications your statement is untrue noted.
+Now, let's expand on this.
+Would it thus be fair to say that there can be some institutionalized ramification to denying the claim, regardless of if the claim is true or not?
+
+>Not a flowchart
+Fair. A flowchart implied SOME logic and thought.
+
+>I explained to you why the teapot argument didn't apply
+Screaming "IT'S IRRELEVANT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT" is not an explanation.
+--- 136735035
+>>136734845
+It is recognized by the scientific community. It's established through rigorous thesis in the scientific community. Who are you to deny such a widely-accepted thesis?
+--- 136735102
+>>136735018
+>Retard too focused on canned answers that he can't see me making fun of his poor word choice.
+There is no poor choice, there is just you failing to see the logic.
+
+>I am not.
+So you agree with he historical consensus that the Holocaust happened? Good to know.
+
+>It directly proves your claim that "muh thesis is le challeneged and reviewed" is explicitly wrong.
+It doesn't. It has been peer-reviewed and reisted challenge.
+
+>Implication that in countries where there are ramifications your statement is untrue noted.
+Verified researches don't cease to be verified once you cross borders, anon.
+
+>Fair. A flowchart implied SOME logic and thought.
+Brinign historical thesis in an historical argument is the logical thing to do.
+
+>Screaming "IT'S IRRELEVANT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT"
+Good thing I didn't do that, then.
+
+>>136735035
+>It is recognized by the scientific community. It's established through rigorous thesis in the scientific community.
+Source?
+--- 136735134
+>>136711085
+>However, within the fiction that we are presented, benders and non benders are treated basically the same.
+The council that runs Republic City is only composed of benders.
+--- 136735141
+Ignoring the inevitable derail into hitler
+
+I wish we got a equalist character who stayed on, or that asami actually was an equalist (and had a character)
+--- 136735152
+>>136734845
+>No, it really wasn't
+Burning unironic troon shit is warranted.
+Weimer Republic was a hellhole.
+--- 136735190
+>>136734511
+>Great rational argument bro. Didn't take that long to show your true color.
+>Aah... The great tradition of burning books. what a memory.
+My true colors are bright and beautiful with red dripping on my fingers from the sinners.
+You are nothing but a giant walking pile of subversion and lies. Your colors are dark and muddy. Just like your soul, papers you’ve read, and the tranny experiments they’ve burned.
+What’s the issue here? God hates all of you and what you represent in his world.
+--- 136735212
+>>136735134
+I know that's true, but also I can't remember if that's ever directly said in the show. It certainly isn't shown, none of the councillors other than Tarrlok and Tenzin matter.
+--- 136735276
+>>136735102
+>There is no poor choice, there is just you failing to see the logic.
+I'm going to explain the joke because you are too stupid to understand it and that makes it funnier.
+You typed that you weren't making a "logical argument that (...)"
+I cut it off at the first part because opening your post with the phrase "I'm not the one presenting a logical argument" is a bad and stupid opener.
+And before you think me petty, that's the same post where you tried to argue "uhm... muh historic verses muh legal questioning is TOTES DIFFERENT!"
+
+>So you agree with he historical consensus that the Holocaust happened? 
+Blatant desperation on your part for any sort of win.
+Maybe I would agree if you provided some irrefutable census data, as I've insistently asked.
+
+>and reisted challenge.
+Except where it's illegal to question or investigate. Sure. Okay...
+I'd ask if you know what "challenged" means, but you probably think it's how your mother sugarcoats your mental development.
+
+>Verified researches don't cease to be verified once you cross borders, anon.
+Tell that to the people not allowed to investigate the alleged mass graves.
+
+>Brinign historical thesis in an historical argument is the logical thing to do.
+Do you want to try that one again without having a stroke?
+
+>Good thing I didn't do that, then
+Oh, again, fair, since my mockery at least gave some form of "because." Christ, that's twice a throwaway mocking on my part made a stronger argument than you...
+--- 136735305
+>>136735102
+Source? It's widespread historical consensus! I'm not the one claiming it, I'm just repeating what most historical thesises know. If you want to argue that God doesn't exist, you have to prove those historical thesis scholars are wrong.
+--- 136735347
+>>136735102
+>>I am not.
+>So you agree with he historical consensus that the Holocaust happened? Good to know.
+Anon's copypasting the weak/strong atheist split you retard.
+--- 136735414
+>>136735152
+>Burning unironic troon shit is warranted
+Freedom of speech, anon.
+>You are nothing but a giant walking pile of subversion and lies
+You are the one refusing to have a rational argument, here.
+
+>What’s the issue here? 
+Some tried to argue that the vast majority of historians are wrong and failed miserably.
+
+>>136735276
+>I'm going to explain the joke
+Because it doesn't work in the first place an I pointed to you why.
+
+>Blatant desperation on your part for any sort of win.
+Just your own words anon. But I guess you are challenging nothing, then.
+
+>Tell that to the people not allowed to investigate the alleged mass graves.
+Why do I need to? In the US they can investigate all the previous research about it and prove their invalidity if there is one. That's the point of having your researches soured.
+>alleged
+Can you show me the proof that there is no longer a consensus about this?
+
+>Except where it's illegal to question or investigate.
+A paper can be published anywhere in the world, anon. You once again fail to make a point.
+
+>Do you want to try that one again without having a stroke?
+I think you are the one who might have an issue not understanding a simple sentence.
+
+>Oh, again, fair, since my mockery at least gave some form of "because." Christ, that's twice a throwaway mocking on my part made a stronger argument than you...
+You know that mockery, to work, must have at least some basis of truth there. All I am seeing is someone deflecting in bad faith. That's not how you make good jokes.
+--- 136735425
+>>136735305
+>Source? It's widespread historical consensus!
+Source?
+
+>>136735347
+He is not and if he is trying to do that, then he is really bad at this. Maybe he should rely on logical points that
+--- 136735439
+>>136735414
+>Freedom of speech, anon
+Is not freedom from consequences. Remember?
+No clue why you're adding in a bunch of other shit after my post, but at least give the faggot a copypaste of post number if you want to avoid a (you).
+--- 136735441
+>>136735425
+>Maybe he should rely on logical points that
+are actually relevant to the conversation.
+--- 136735498
+>>136735439
+>Is not freedom from consequences. Remember?
+It's not freedom of critic actually. You are allowed to critic other's opinion, not silence them.
+
+Criticizing YOUR opinion is also freedom of speech.
+--- 136735543
+>>136735414
+>>You are nothing but a giant walking pile of subversion and lies
+>You are the one refusing to have a rational argument, here.
+>>What’s the issue here? 
+>Some tried to argue that the vast majority of historians are wrong and failed miserably.
+for >>136735190
+--- 136735549
+>>136732820
+Hey that's what I thought of too
+--- 136735595
+>>136735425
+Anon is doing that. You're just a midwit who needs to learn when to stop typing.
+--- 136735604
+>>136732820
+>>136735549
+None of his actual critics really hold, though.
+--- 136735643
+>>136735595
+>Anon is doing that.
+Not really. What he is actually doing is challenging an huge existing body of work based on research and cross referencing, not an hypothetical God.
+But then he claims he is actually not doing that, so the only conclusion is that he has nothing to prove the current consensus wrong.
+--- 136735648
+>>136735414
+>Because it doesn't work in the first place an I pointed to you why.
+It worked. You just didn't catch it because you're dumb.
+
+>Just your own words anon.
+Lacking a belief is not the same as holding a negative belief or affirming a positive one.
+The anon in >>136735347 caught my angle here. You shpuld have caught onto it given how many other arguments I lifted from theological debate.
+That you didn't recognize it just screams stupidity on your part, much less the stupidity of trying to turn "I lack a belief that (A) is true" into "So yOu aGrEe tHaT (A) Is tRuE bEcAusE yOu dOn'T dIsBeLiEvE iT?"
+Again, I've asked for evidence. I'm not against it. Hell, I've asked for specific data that would sate me and pointed out that it would be acceptable to proving your argument.
+Yet you don't have anything other than this weaksauce "sO yOuRe sAyInG" shit like you're one of the five people who thought that Cathy Newman isn't a complete idiot.
+
+>Why do I need to?
+Because they can't investigate the mass graves in Germany drspite what their home country might say, dipshit!
+That single-handedly defeats all of your retarded "but muh othar countreeeeees" handwaves since you didn't actually look at WHICH countries it's outlawed in.
+
+>All I am seeing is someone deflecting in bad faith
+Let me guess, in the mirror?
+--- 136735678
+>>136735498
+>You are allowed to critic other's opinion, not silence them
+If the people pushing transexualism pseudo-science don't want called frauds and have the public attack them, then they shouldn't have targeted children for prostitution and experimental surgeries.
+--- 136735679
+>>136735425
+>Source?
+>>136735305
+--- 136735711
+>>136735643
+How about you actually explain why anon's comparison doesn't appky instead of feeding us the same pile of pseudointellectual rambling you've CTRL+C CTRL+V'd all thread?
+--- 136735715
+>>136733348
+Isn't it the point that deranged the system creates deranged people? Same thing with Joker movie.
+--- 136735729
+>>136710820
+He went mad after bug crawled in his ear because he lived in a dumpy apartment. Don't worship poorfags.
+--- 136735744
+>>136735711
+*apply
+--- 136735770
+>>136735648
+>It worked.
+Nope. All it was was a bad attempt at deflect to not address what was actually said.
+
+>Lacking a belief
+It is not a lack of belief, anon. A consensus exists based on peer-reviewed work. Either you consider that consensus is unreliable and must establish its invalidity, or you admit you are unable to prove it wrong.
+your angle rely on something whose existence is still in doubt. This is not the case when there is a consensus and therefore, your angle doesn't apply. This was never about the teapot.
+
+>Because they can't investigate the mass graves in Germany drspite what their home country might say, dipshit!
+>That single-handedly defeats all of your retarded "but muh othar countreeeeees" 
+Nope.
+A consensus has been established beforehand, have they provided sufficient element to put in doubt in a significant way the previous investigations on this mass graves? They don't need to go to Germany to do that, Just showcase the lacking in the previous investigation that would justify restarting the researches. If they can't prove that, this is simply desecration of what has already been established to be graves.
+
+>Let me guess, in the mirror?
+I am not the one pretending there isn't a consensus to challenge in the first place.
+--- 136735807
+>>136709429 (OP)
+Yeah funny how that works 
+
+Also what interesting point about the world did he have again?
+--- 136735814
+I never got why so many people, especially on /co/, pretended Reeves Batman was good when it came out. It ruined Riddler at the eleventh hour because we can't have a bad guy make too much sense, and bitched out with its message of systemic corruption by having the mayoral candidate at the end be as pure as snow. 
+
+And yeah, Amon and especially Kuvira were victims of shitty writing
+--- 136735817
+>>136735678
+>then they shouldn't have targeted children for prostitution and experimental surgeries.
+Good thing they never did.
+
+>>136735679
+Ah, so you don't know what a source is. Got it.
+
+>>136735711
+>How about you actually explain why anon's comparison doesn't apply
+I have done it several time already. The consensus and body of work it is based on already exist and he is the one challenging it. This isn't the same as questioning god, for which there is no scientific consensus on his existence.
+
+>you've CTRL+C CTRL+V'd all thread?
+I just quote people so that is clearer to understand what point I am adressing. Make is easier for understanding me. Do'nt know why you are complaining I am doing that.
+--- 136735834
+>>136735770
+>(Making fun of my poor wording is LE DEFLECTION!)
+You're butthurt. Got it.
+
+>Either you consider that consensus is unreliable and must establish its invalidity, or you admit you are unable to prove it wrong.
+I do not have to do anything unil you give proof of anything.
+I shouldn't need to say thjs, but just shouting "consensus" around 20 times and "thesis" around 30 is not proof.
+
+I'm skipping the rest lf your dredge because that issue alone highlights the problem with your autistic ad nauseam.
+--- 136735883
+>>136724720
+>That is a fucking shit ass excuse hiding being reason you fanboy spics
+The fucking irony, seeing how you're clearly an ESL.
+--- 136735884
+>>136735817
+>Good thing they never did.
+Nigger talking about "historic consensus" fifty million times pretending like child prostitution wasn't a thing in Weimer.
+Lol
+--- 136735891
+>>136735711
+Atheist are stupid people. He got pissed because he didn’t expect me to still bonk his stupid head after barfing out subversive works and propaganda. He retorted with, “You’re just like the Nazis that burned the “grand knowledge” of tranny books.”
+
+What an honorable “insult”.
+--- 136735895
+>>136735834
+>>(Making fun of my poor wording is LE DEFLECTION!)
+It really is when it's used instead of addressing the actual point.
+
+>I do not have to do anything
+Actually, you do. You are challenging the consensus, You prove it wrong.
+>I shouldn't need to say thjs, but just shouting "consensus" around 20 times and "thesis" around 30 is not proof.
+But the body of work that has lead to that consensus is proof. And you are climing it is invalid. Back this claim.
+
+I don't need to prove what has already been proven by other. You doubt that proof, it's up to you to invalidate it.
+--- 136735909
+>>136735884
+>pretending like child prostitution wasn't a thing in Weimer.
+Child prostitution still exist nowadays. Can you prove the vast majority of the trans community, then and now, has been supporting it?
+--- 136735913
+>>136735817
+>I have done it several time already
+Are you having schizophrenic arguments in your head?
+--- 136735926
+>>136735891
+>Atheist are stupid people. He got pissed because he didn’t expect me to still bonk his stupid head
+Lol, I am not even an ahteist. You have systematically failed to bonk anything. All you have done is making a claim and failing to prove it.
+--- 136735929
+>>136735909
+They always do, you demonic piece of filth.
+--- 136735944
+>>136735913
+Well, I am not the one ignoring the second part of the post where I give my explanation yet again.>>136735913
+>The consensus and body of work it is based on already exist and he is the one challenging it. This isn't the same as questioning god, for which there is no scientific consensus on his existence
+--- 136735947
+>>136735891
+I don't know what's worse, the schizophrenia grouping everyone calling you a retard into one blob, or that you're trying to call religious skeptics stupid. While fellatioing academia.
+
+Holy shit dude.
+--- 136735957
+>>136735926
+So an occultist? That makes it easier to ridicule you, you big-worded moron.
+--- 136735960
+>>136735929
+Proof?
+--- 136736023
+>>136735895
+>But the body of work that has lead to that consensus is proof
+I literally JUST said that spamming this word ad nauseam is not proof.
+
+>You doubt that proof, it's up to you to invalidate it.
+You have not said anything. At all. That's not me being dismissive, literally EVERY POST you have made to me tried to fall back onto "it's consensus" or some shit about thesis. Sometimes both. Sometimes more than once in the same post.
+
+Goddamn, you retard. Saying "everyone agrees with me" is not an argument.
+I'm done if you can't put up an actual argument or any proof. I'll let the others make fun of your autistic fart-huffing.
+--- 136736049
+>>136735909
+>Child prostitution still exist nowadays
+Nigger trying to excuse outrage against widespread child sex.
+
+>Can you prove the vast majority of the trans community, then and now, has been supporting it?
+Exhibit A: what you just did.
+--- 136736067
+>>136735944
+You literally have no idea what the split is, retard.
+t. "Weak" atheist.
+--- 136736165
+>>136736023
+>I literally JUST said that spamming this word ad nauseam is not proof.
+A consensus based on peer-reviewed research is literally proof, anon. When a consensus is made, it's up to you to prove it wrong, or recognise that you have been unable to do so.
+
+>You have not said anything. At all. 
+And I don't need to. Proofs have already been by other, I don't need to redo all the work just for you.
+
+>Goddamn, you retard. Saying "everyone agrees with me" is not an argument.
+Good thing that's not my argument, then. My actual argument is that a body of work that has resisted peer-review claim the holocaust happened and most historian recognise the validity of it while he few who don't have been unable to invalidate it.
+
+Do you understand, now?
+
+>>136736049
+>Nigger trying to excuse outrage against widespread child sex.
+Wow, you are bad at reading comprehension.
+--- 136736181
+>>136736067
+Lol, I am not even atheist. Glad I could answer your question about why his argument doesn't apply.
+--- 136736210
+>>136709429 (OP)
+>show makes message that extremism is bad and just because your point has merit doesn't mean you have an excuse to be a psychopath
+>psychopaths in audience seethe
+--- 136736226
+>>136736165
+>consensus i already proved consensus earlier when consensus so you have to prove the consensus isn't true because I said consensus so that means I proved it when...
+Yeah, I accept your concession.
+--- 136736239
+>>136735947
+Poor you. Fearing that cold people like me exist to destroy obvious corruption and mock pure and utter pride.
+--- 136736251
+>>136736226
+>>consensus i already proved consensus
+No, I personally didn't. The work of many historians is what created that consensus.
+
+Now can you prove its invalidity?
+--- 136736261
+>>136736181
+How do you see "t. "Weak" atheist" and think that means you?
+--- 136736280
+>>136735891
+>“You’re just like the Nazis that burned the “grand knowledge” of tranny books.”
+Anon, it's literally someone else I was replying to who boasted about burning writing:>>136734395
+--- 136736291
+>>136736239
+>>136736251
+The ravings of an actual schizophrenic.
+The JIDF can do better, surely.
+--- 136736294
+>>136736210
+>God floods the world because he wants sinners to die horribly.
+Wonderful isn’t it?
+--- 136736305
+>>136736261
+"Thanks, weak atheist"
+--- 136736325
+>>136736291
+>The ravings of an actual schizophrenic.
+Explaining how basic logic work and who need to prove his point in the context of an existing consensus is not really what I'd call schizo.
+--- 136736330
+>>136736280
+That was me. You think I tolerate the pages of evil?
+--- 136736349
+>>136736305
+>Thanks
+What kind of newfaggotry is this?
+"t." means 'translated/translation.'
+--- 136736354
+>>136736325
+Yeah. True schizos think the earth is round and everything is stabilized by unstable speeds and gravity.
+--- 136736364
+Someone needs to start a counter for every time this nigger says "consensus" before archive.
+--- 136736410
+>>136736330
+So, you complain that I am calling you a book burner while fully admitting that you claimed to be one? Schizo much?
+
+>>136736349
+Fun fact, for years, I have thought that "kys" was just meant to be "kiss" purposely misspelled, for the sake of making a passive aggressive reply.
+Doesn't help you make a point, though, you question as to why his argument doesn't apply has been answered.
+--- 136736417
+>>136736354
+Once something is proven the onus is on you to disprove it.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9rkQJ91VOE [Embed]
+--- 136736428
+>>136736410
+You didn't answer the question.
+--- 136736438
+>>136736364
+Won't make you any less the one that need to prove his claim.
+>>136736417
+Thank you.
+--- 136736460
+>>136736428
+See>>136735817
+>The consensus and body of work it is based on already exist and he is the one challenging it. This isn't the same as questioning god, for which there is no scientific consensus on his existence.
+And also >>136736417
+--- 136736469
+>>136736417
+>This nigger thinks he's smart because he watches TED-Ed cartoons
+Explains a lot for why he doesn't know how to actually cite the fallacies he's claiming or form an argument...
+--- 136736513
+>>136736460
+The specific belief does not matter. It's what separates someone like me from a religious "strong" atheist.
+You're committing this fallacy:
+https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_pleading
+--- 136736515
+>>136736469
+>>This nigger thinks he's smart because he watches TED-Ed cartoons
+Not the actual argument anon. You are ignoring his actual point:
+>Once something is proven the onus is on you to disprove it.
+--- 136736549
+I hate that people always post Amon for these threads when Kuvira fits way more. Completely unironic example of "oh shit we made the villain character right about everything better have her set up concentration camps off screen."
+--- 136736566
+>>136736513
+>The specific belief does not matter.
+But that it is an unproven belief or not in the first place does.
+
+If a consensus has emerged from research that have resisted peer-review, it is considered as proven and thus no longer mere belief. Thus his argument doesn't apply.
+--- 136736571
+>>136736515
+You still have yet to prove it.
+And before you start, I'm with the other anons. Saying "I proved it" or "they proved it" isn't proof.
+--- 136736586
+>>136736549
+See >>136733156
+>>136733250
+--- 136736609
+>>136736571
+>You still have yet to prove it.
+Actually I don't. I am not the one challenging the consensus. It's up to anon to prove that the consensus is wrong.
+
+>or "they proved it" isn't proof.
+Actually, IT IS proof. When the consensus stem from researches that have resisted peer-review, it is proof.
+--- 136736632
+>>136736571
+see at 2:40 >>136736417
+--- 136736633
+>>136736566
+>But that it is an unproven belief or not in the first place does.
+I lack a belief until it's proven, not the other way around. You are committing this:
+https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning
+
+>If
+Stories are not proof.
+https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NfyoDgszas0 [Embed]
+--- 136736661
+>>136736609
+586279 researchers from Oxford confirmed it didn't happen.
+No, I don't have to prove it because that's just consensus, and you have to prove otherwise.
+--- 136736687
+>>136736632
+Actual retard post.
+--- 136736698
+>>136736633
+>I lack a belief until it's proven
+That there is an established consensus mean that it is proven.
+
+>Stories are not proof.
+Good thing the historical recognition of the holocaust is not simply based on stories
+--- 136736718
+>>136736661
+>586279 researchers from Oxford confirmed it didn't happen.
+>No, I don't have to prove it
+Actually, you do.
+--- 136736738
+>>136736687
+Pointing out to a good explanation is not that.
+--- 136736752
+>>136736698
+>It's proven because it's proven
+See >>136736633
+
+>Good thing the historical recognition of the holocaust is not simply based on stories
+...Awkward
+https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/media/herman-rosenblat-85-dies-made-up-holocaust-love-story.html
+--- 136736779
+>>136736718
+No I don't, because it's consensus. :^)
+--- 136736802
+>>136736752
+>>It's proven because it's proven
+Not my argument. It's proven because it's an established consensus. It has stemmed from many historical thesis who have been peer-reviewed.
+
+>>...Awkward
+Not really. a single story debunked doesn't debunk them all. It only require the vast majority of them to hold.
+--- 136736805
+>>136736738
+>Good explanation
+TED-Ed is basic bitch shit, and the "le smrt demon" bits are just some midwit wanking to a very reductionist take on history.
+--- 136736819
+>>136736779
+Source?
+--- 136736827
+>>136736802
+>>It's proven because it's proven
+>Not my argument. It's proven because it's an established consensus
+--- 136736836
+>>136736805
+It's basic argumentation logic. Facts remains fact, no matter who says it.
+--- 136736840
+>>136736819
+I don't need a source. You need one to disprove consensus. :^)
+--- 136736847
+>>136736827
+>>Not my argument. It's proven because it's an established consensus
+Now you understand. Thank you. I am glad we could come up to an understanding.
+--- 136736897
+>>136736847
+Anon, I'm highlighing you for almost verbatim typing what I greentexted, except with one word switched out for a synonymous phrase.
+--- 136736927
+>>136736897
+You can’t reason with the delusional and the stupids. You can only smack them down.
+--- 136736935
+>>136736897
+>except with one word switched out for a synonymous phrase.
+I guess you are not good at making synonymous phrases, then.
+--- 136736947
+>villain has valid and justifiable problems with society that would benefit everyone if properly dealt with
+>randomly sets an orphanage on fire for literally no reason other than to justify the heroes arresting/killing him and sustaining the status quo
+i want every writer who fucking does this shit thrown into a very smelly marsh
+--- 136736955
+>>136736935
+I guess you're an idiot.
+--- 136736959
+>>136736927
+>You can’t reason with the delusional and the stupids.
+How is it delusional? Where is the failing in the logic?
+--- 136736994
+>>136709429 (OP)
+>non-benders are oppressed!
+>show almost exclusively shows benders being oppressed
+Eh?
+--- 136736999
+>>136736959
+6,000,000
+Is 
+66
+They changed the number to literally worship the Devil.
+--- 136737006
+>>136736955
+I am not the one who make claims against what he know is established historical consensus, yet refuse to prove it.
+--- 136737020
+My first impressuon was
+>Benders are cunts, they're the center of everything bad. How have they not dealt with the triad despote being an army if metal benders. Amon was right, fuck benders. I'm going to ignore how he thought his plan would work tho. Outlawing chi-blocking is like outlawing martial arts; benders can learn it too!
+Then I thought about it more
+>Benders are literally used to power the city and they still live lower class lives. The only benders who aren't like this seem to be already rich, involved in politics or part of organised crime. So it's more an economic class divide than a caste divide. I also thought about Amon's plan for more than a minute.
+So both fucking sides have no real point. Everything bad really stems from beaurocratic incompetence and democratic nonsense. And Korra, fuck korra.
+--- 136737024
+>>136736999
+Proof?
+--- 136737031
+>>136737006
+>Faggot is coping with "You know I'm right deep down!"
+--- 136737047
+>>136736999
+Pro-tip: When someone calls you delusional, the WORST thing you can do is bust out some schizo numerology shit out of nowhere
+--- 136737055
+>>136737031
+Not what I said, anon. what I am saying is that you know that it is a fact that the vast majority of Historians who have researched the Holocaust have concluded that it effectively happened.
+--- 136737062
+>>136736927
+I don't know, I wasn't convinced the first fifty times he said "consensus," but I think another 30 times might change my mind.
+--- 136737076
+>>136737047
+I didn't even call him delusional, he is the one who called me that.
+--- 136737079
+>>136737055
+>Not what I said, anon
+>>I am not the one who make claims against what he know is established historical consensus
+--- 136737101
+>>136737079
+>>>I am not the one who make claims against what he know is established historical consensus
+Indeed. I am not. and saying that is not the same as saying "You know I'm right deep down!"
+--- 136737143
+Amon was a deranged retard. I have no idea how people that aren't children could think he has any sort of point or is deep in any way. He's almost bottom of the barrel in terms of generic villain.
+--- 136737175
+>>136735604
+You can look up who hold high or even the highest positions in every media corporation, every western news network not just in america but also europe. You can compare these ratios to demographic proportions, you can quickly debunk any cope citing irrelevant IQ stats. You can then look at the state modern europe, what these medua companies oromote despite the heads having dual citizenship and respect to a country that tends to do the opposite. You can sit in on your own parliament and watch them yourself flounder about on nonsense like a circus (god I hate australia). It's not just about the jews, that was his reasoned cause of it all but the subjects and institutions he criticised by themselves are just as bad as he said. This is before even scrutinising the biggest thing he allegedly did that we should never forget while forgetting all the other people he killed in larger numbers that is much easier to confirm as true.
+You can say his cl'solutions' were wrong but his motivations clearly hold water.
+--- 136737220
+>>136737175
+>that was his reasoned cause of it all but the subjects and institutions he criticised by themselves are just as bad as he said.
+>institutions bad
+Wow, Hitler was such a visionary. how could I not see it before?
+--- 136737235
+>>136737101
+Does that long-winded prose fool anyone you know, or are you tempering here before you try to impress your friends?
+--- 136737298
+>>136737235
+>Does that long-winded prose fool anyone you know
+There is no fooling and it's not even that long. All I have done point out that there already is an established consensus and that therefore, it is up to those who doubt it to prove it wrong.
+--- 136737650
+>>136737220
+Not an argument
+--- 136737673
+>>136737650
+Neither was this>>136737175
+--- 136737963
+>>136737076
+Because you are.
+--- 136737977
+>>136737963
+How so?
+--- 136738828
+>>136737298
+Not an argument.
+--- 136738980
+>>136738828
+I am not the one that need to provide one in the first place.
+--- 136741412
+>>136709429 (OP)
+What?
+--- 136742657
+>>136733071
+They invented tasers.
+--- 136743989
+>>136741412
+You know what

co/136710480.txt

@@ -118,12 +118,184 @@ Oh nonono FP/HW/bronwynsisters, we lost finncest is canon
 --- 136721349
 >>136717693
 Character design by Edward Koren?
---- 136722092
->>136721349
-
-Nope Nadja.
 --- 136722378
 I have never found a full episode of "Tales in Mushroom Village" online. The DVDs are somewhere hidden in China.
 --- 136722410
 >>136710480 (OP)
 Does youtube AMV/fake trailer count as lost media?
+--- 136723352
+in 2021 the complete series of the David Spade animated sitcom "Sammy" got unearthed thanks to a crew member rummaging in his storage.
+https://www.youtube.com/@Matt9303/videos
+Kinda charming & amusing show.
+Only 2 of the 13 episodes aired before it was canceled; and for years no one seemed to have any recordings of even that.
+--- 136723432
+Bubbles Crayonix
+
+>>136722715 →
+--- 136723552
+>>136710480 (OP)
+While art exist for the Japanese dub of Pippi Longstocking, there's still no rip of it anywhere on the Internet.
+Same goes for the tv series
+--- 136723748
+ATHF Simpsons movie special.
+--- 136723892
+>>136717550
+>TFW no emo waifu with a white bobcut that can only give him either blowjobs or footjobs
+Why even live?
+--- 136723939
+>>136710480 (OP)
+>X-TIN: The Dragon's Dreamworld
+I miss just being able to read the whole thing in hd, shit had some cool designs, never even knew it got a sequel until after it got scrubbed off the net, if anyone has the complete collection I will gladly suck your cock for it
+--- 136723955
+>>136723939
+no I dont remember anything about the plot
+--- 136723974
+>>136723955
+--- 136724113
+>>136723352
+
+Hope someone backs them up to archiveorg because YouTube will probably take it down.
+--- 136724587
+>>136724113
+already done within a day after the youtube uploads finished
+https://archive.org/details/sammy_nbc
+--- 136724597
+>>136717837
+yes,bro
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aioNVeXRzw [Embed]
+this would have been the perfect cartoon, even if people would have inevitably written it off as an Invader Zim knock-off.
+--- 136724822
+>>136710480 (OP)
+Angry Beavers Pilot Episode: Snowbound
+
+https://mega.nz/file/2c8kFCSS#GNnfD0bIFYoqjmxDx241Z70bkJop9m77tmFITE0YcOQ
+--- 136725093
+>>136710480 (OP)
+--- 136725099
+>>136725093
+This reply is hilarious because I know exactly what you are referring to, even though you forgot the link.
+--- 136725105
+>>136724822
+do you have bye by beavers
+--- 136725116
+>>136725105
+I do not, I'm afraid. Wish I did but I think it's truly lost, in terms of animation.
+--- 136725141
+>>136710480 (OP)
+>FRED FLINTSTONE'S HOME
+Gets me every time
+--- 136725321
+>>136725099
+Yeah I totally did, thought the filename was different.
+--- 136726366
+>>136710480 (OP)
+No
+--- 136726772
+>>136719613
+
+Considering that Doozy Bots and the proposed remakes of Sailor Moon and Saint Seiya all came out roughly around the same time, there's a pretty good chance there's more of those concepts floating around out there that we never heard about with at least some of them also getting animated pitches or even pilots.
+--- 136728661
+>>136726772
+I'd wish Saint Seiya Star Storm was found but it seems it was destroyed or the pilot was never finished
+--- 136729478
+>>136725141
+Remember the John k Flintstones comics
+--- 136730747
+>>136729478
+No
+--- 136732025
+>>136718472
+>>136718490
+I hope it stays lost
+--- 136732233
+>>136717089
+What the fuck I thought this was Portuguese.
+--- 136733443
+>>136732025
+Why
+--- 136733486
+>>136710480 (OP)
+dafuq is that???
+what's that supposed to be??
+--- 136734174
+Most of the French Donkey Kong TV show, La Planète de Donkey Kong, aka DKTV.
+Not the Donkey Kong Country cartoon, but the French spin-off parody series that was mo-capped by the same company as the cartoon's first season. It had nearly nothing to do with Donkey Kong aside from using the character models from the cartoon to spoof pop culture trends and celebrities. This shit went on for years and was apparently huge in France.
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGu31IenF-4 [Embed]
+--- 136734236
+>>136718472
+To call a male goat 'chick' is kinky. I like it!
+--- 136734681
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkpJvUWk4lw [Embed]
+
+This was the intermission which played in theaters, between the "The Prince and the Pauper" featurette and "The Rescuers Down Under", which was the movie it originally played alongside with.
+To my knowledge Disney has never shown this outside of theaters.
+--- 136734745
+>>136710480 (OP)
+>>136722410
+Fuck it, I've been looking for this fan made crossover trailer by a person going by the name lemon of indifference, I know it's real because someone made their own trailer inspired by it soon after.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QNGCezXps0 [Embed]
+--- 136734749
+>>136710480 (OP)
+Never understood the panel where Tommy starts twitching. Why is it sideways? Why malt balls?
+--- 136735791
+>>136733486
+A storyboard made as a joke by the Rugrats producers. The complete work contained sex scenes between Angelica and Stu. The leader executive found out about it, felt disgusted and confiscated it. That's the only page that could be saved, the rest is lost media, but I'm 99% sure it was destroyed so it's impossible to find
+--- 136737105
+>>136733651
+whats this?
+--- 136737185
+Does anybody know where I can watch those animated Heroscape episodes?
+--- 136737618
+>>136733443
+>>136733651
+You know why, you pedo.
+--- 136737623
+>>136710480 (OP)
+The Dinky-Di's, a partially found Australian cartoon. Only 3 out of the 26 episodes have been found and some footage of the other episodes have been found from a YTP channel who no longer have access to the episodes.
+--- 136737679
+>>136734749
+>Why malt balls?
+
+Malt balls representing shit. Other than that, I don’t get it either.
+--- 136739647
+>>136734174
+Considering the timing of this spinoff, this could explain why the character models were considerably different in season 2
+--- 136740337
+>>136735791
+The rest never existed, thats a madeup myth. That op is literally all they drew.
+--- 136740420
+Thank God this thread is up. Maybe you /co/mmisars can help me;
+
+I just remembered this animated TV commercial from the 90s that was for a bottled fruit juice not unlike Fruitopia or Snapple. It starred a guido dog that had a slight resemblance to Poochy from the Simpson's Itchy & Scratchy sans the sunglasses and a more deadpan attitude. He also had a rat sidekick that did a weaselly laugh.
+
+The dog walks into a room where all these anthropomorphic juice bottles were sitting around a table playing poker and there was one that chomped a cigar and had a girl bottle next to him. They were a "mafia" of sorts.
+
+Anyway the dog walks in the room and in a Rober De Niro voice says something to the juice-bottle mobsters about needing a plan or a strategy "y'know like baseball" so the dog says and at that moment the dog produces a baseball bat. Then after a brief dialogue the "Boss Bottle" says the word "booty" and the other bottle-guys mutter "what did he say? booty?" and then dog says "that's cool" and tells his rat sidekick to hit the the lights. 
+
+Then the lights go off and we hear thwacking and cracking sounds (presumably from the dog cracking the bottles with the bat) and then the light come back on and we see one of the bottle's cap hitting the floor and the logo and copyrights for the brand.
+
+On the other it could have been an ad for an alcoholic drink but I don't remember, just that it was a long and edgy commercial
+
+Pic unrelated but it is from an also cool and edgy 90s fruit juice commercial for Radical Fruit Company
+
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCxurFhV77E [Embed]
+--- 136741574
+another 90s "lostie":
+
+It was called "Chunk". It was a short on Mtv's Cartoon Sushi.
+
+It was about a blue devilish cat whose owner loses an ass-cheek in an accident and the cat chases the severed cheek around the house
+--- 136742728
+>>136710480 (OP)
+--- 136742927
+>>136724822
+Glad they changed Norbert's design and voice.
+--- 136744123
+>>136710648
+What
+--- 136744177
+>>136723552
+
+It aired on CN in Japan.

co/136713235.txt

@@ -565,9 +565,6 @@ Well, the West's ideological neuroticism continue seeping into entertainment and
 --- 136718055
 >>136713260
 he's black and they have an agenda against black people
---- 136718060
->>136713235 (OP)
->white people starting to replace browns in movies again
 --- 136718067
 >>136718003
 >certainly to show on screen
@@ -712,9 +709,6 @@ You're assuming this is the result of some sort of plan. It's just nonsense happ
 --- 136719785
 >>136719735
 Still can't get over that they are making a live action version of that movie already...
---- 136719818
->>136718060
-Nothing bad about it. Non-white subhuman shouldn't exist on any forms of media.
 --- 136719824
 >>136719723
 I'm more used to seeing them mutate her with some of Stitch's coloration, but I've gotta say keeping her similar shades to usual looks nifty too.
@@ -981,3 +975,388 @@ I wonder if anyone crying about "white" Nani have seen pictures of native hawaii
 --- 136722850
 >>136722668
 Yeah, but it wasn't like Lilo was going around like a rabid dog biting people. She'd usually get antagonized into fighting back even when her teachers will be 2 inches next to her, watching as as Mertle and gang would call her "crazy" and "weird" to her face. That always bothered me that only Lilo would get punished when she reacted, but never Mertle for being rude.
+--- 136722879
+>>136718794
+I doubt was done to pander to China. They don't have Disney+ (or any U.S. streaming services) there.
+--- 136722987
+>>136722850
+>That always bothered me that only Lilo would get punished when she reacted, but never Mertle for being rude.
+Just like real life!
+--- 136723045
+>>136722987
+>Just like real life!
+True. But usually it's at least out of sight of the teachers when it happens. Mertle was very upfront with her bullying.
+--- 136723137
+>>136713235 (OP)
+Well that's one way to ruin a perfect joke at this point even Stich is going to get some weird design choices
+--- 136723281
+Here's the new Stitch
+--- 136723389
+>>136713740
+With a proper script fucking Terry Crews could play Cobra
+--- 136723453
+>>136721440
+They would be foolish to replace Kevin Michael Richardson
+--- 136723476
+>>136723389
+Terry Crews would be a hoot.
+--- 136723492
+Even by the "nobody wants this" standards of these live action reboots, NOBODY WANTS THIS
+--- 136723524
+>>136720842
+Ah the man that was subdivided into a elderly general and a no name soldier.
+--- 136723749
+>>136720946
+However much china hates blacks, it's only a percentage of a percentage compared to their hatred of other Asians.
+--- 136723763
+>>136723492
+I do
+
+I want to see just how awful it will be
+--- 136724063
+>>136713235 (OP)
+I feel this is a troll? But really who knows now a days
+--- 136724380
+>>136713372
+They can't make a black person the antagonist! 
+THAT'S RACIST!
+Just keep her white and make other people be black instead
+Stitch should be black
+--- 136724438
+>>136714182
+I really don't care at least he is Hawaiian
+They'd probably cast the phillipino dude from spiderman if they wanted to get close to how his face looks like in the movie
+--- 136724911
+>>136721751
+Christ
+--- 136725410
+>>136713260
+>Racebend white characters as black
+>Have a actually likeable black character
+>He becomes a Asians woman
+What the fuck LOL
+--- 136725439
+>>136717623
+You forgot she's fucking obese so also a victim of bodyshaming, make that 4 points
+--- 136725523
+>>136713235 (OP)
+>turn a black person into yet another woman under the guise of diversity
+
+This is literally on brand for Disney.
+--- 136725632
+>>136720065
+She's Hawaiian in the same way Italians are white
+--- 136725639
+>>136719848
+They are doing these just to refresh the copyrights and trademarks and they are trying to push them all out within the current millennial nostalgia window to squeeze some returns out of this junk.
+--- 136725652
+>>136721277
+>You just want everyone to live the same but you to live in luxury.
+isn't that just modern capitalism with how they're trying to eliminate the middle class?
+--- 136725665
+>>136725652
+
+Yes, but the Max Power way!
+--- 136725690
+>an unquestionably good male character?
+>fuck no we can't have that make him a fat woman
+--- 136725731
+>>136723045
+Literally all she did was call her crazy
+--- 136725759
+>>136717947
+No we fucking would screw you, I hate stupid pointless changes and so should everyone else.
+--- 136725796
+>>136721440
+The movie will be irredeemable shit anyways so... A new androgynous anthro character design you say? A possible new topic of... Fanart... Even if the rest of the movie is a big pile of burning garbage, you say?
+--- 136725820
+>>136713825
+what like moon girl and devil dinosaur?
+--- 136725864
+It is a disney liveaction remake... So I was never going to see it to begin with.
+--- 136725894
+>>136713235 (OP)
+Wasnt the WHOLE joke of Bubbles that such a jacked intimidating dude was just part of child services?
+--- 136725897
+>>136713260
+Eeeeeeey, it's almost like these live action de-makes are a gigantic waste of time and nobody should watch them!
+--- 136725970
+>>136713260
+Scary black man is racist pls understand
+--- 136726102
+>>136714867
+>Scary black man didn't fit with the role of a child-concerned agent.
+just in case you're really that stupid: That was the entire point. Not only was he in plot important to look like a regular FBI man-in-black deal, but also it was a joke that this scary fucking guy is actually a caring child service employee. Plus it showed that while he was just doing his job for the well being of a child, to the actual child and well-meaning family member he would be a scary force.
+--- 136726137
+>>136717691
+Its the best place to find news, porn and politics bait, aka all that /co/ is about
+--- 136726146
+Remember that one good live action remake that Disney made?
+
+Neither do I
+--- 136726169
+>>136713235 (OP)
+The worst part of all this is that you're powerless to really do anything about it. They'll keep making these dogshit remakes over and over and over, because normies hate cartoons and this is the acceptable way to watch these stories.
+--- 136726197
+>>136713235 (OP)
+I mean, it's a Disney Live-Action remake, it's guarenteed to be shit before they announce anything else. But seriously, removing one of the best characters in it?
+--- 136726784
+>>136717854
+Yeah, shame your people have had to suffer so much in the past, what with you being a tremendous faggot and all.
+--- 136726809
+>>136717947
+Cite one example of this and the negative reaction of /co/ to it, and I will absolutely concede my point. Otherwise, shut up, you disingenuous troll.
+--- 136726813
+Disney has shown time and time again that they believe women and blacks are basically interchangeable and can be race and gender swapped to suit their desires.
+
+But they're not racist! Nope.
+--- 136727265
+>>136717947
+People would care, but there would mainly be smug "I told you so's" and "Oh, NOW it's bad" here due to the Twitter meltdown generating enough rage to power a small city.
+Changing races of established characters is still retarded. Just make new characters and new stories instead.
+--- 136727296
+>>136717623
+>A white male (like 95% of /co/)
+--- 136727317
+>>136717662
+It's not 95% male at all. I don't know when the last check was done, but historical demographics showed /co/ was one of the boards with a higher ratio of female posters (I believe /cgl/ was highest?).
+Cartoons with "muh feelings" and teasing ships are like cocaine to female nerds so it shouldn't even be a surprise based on shows of the past decade.
+--- 136727335
+>>136719704
+They're really fucking fat, man. Like, it's one thing that they're stupid evil and fat, but them being fat is just another level. No wonder USA is such a huge ass country - its citizens are FAT
+--- 136727346
+>>136720187
+ah yes, it's bad casting when it's too white. my bad
+--- 136727440
+>>136717623
+this board is basically the crystal cafe outpost, mostly women and troons
+--- 136727466
+>>136727440
+>crystal cafe
+god I hate that board
+--- 136727564
+This guy gets to stay though, right?
+--- 136727691
+>>136727564
+--- 136727710
+>>136727691
+three legs
+--- 136727765
+>>136721971
+WHAT race are Filipinos?
+--- 136727791
+>>136727765
+I guess they're like mixed spanish
+--- 136727995
+>>136714182
+It's the least bad of the casting, but the obvious casting choice for David would be Kekoa Kekumano.
+--- 136728115
+>>136722833
+I think some humans have the magically ability of making their skin darker with sun exposure.
+--- 136730218
+>>136719704
+Don't forget fat and stupid
+--- 136730271
+>>136723749
+why is that anyways, they didn't have blacks as slaves on a large scale, and they never went to war with them. Do they just hate how they look?
+--- 136731562
+crinsed thread
+--- 136731712
+People keep complaining and these shit remakes keep breaking a billion.
+--- 136731763
+>>136717947
+Your dismissive anecdotes don't even reflect reality anymore. This literally started with white dudes getting replaced.
+--- 136732257
+>>136722833
+I mean, Native Hawaiians are closely related to Native Americans right? And Native Americans can get quite dark. Which also relates to Latinas since many Latinas are indigenous/have a lot of Native blood. So it doesn't seem that much of a stretch
+--- 136732340
+>>136713235 (OP)
+What the fucking shit world am I living in
+--- 136732381
+>>136713905
+she got vitiliago
+--- 136732463
+>>136714482
+A reminder that Disney gender swaped Julius Root in the Artemis Fowl movie. The Julius Root in the books was literally written as J.K. Simmons and instead they cast Judi Dench.
+--- 136732666
+This adaptation looks more and more shit. Cobra was a good character, the straight man who also actually did have compassion deep down. 
+Removing him to try a different approach for a social worker is one thing, but when you also have him as a G-man, it makes less sense to change the character.
+--- 136733002
+>>136732463
+Didn't they also race swap the bodyguard?
+--- 136733027
+>The original film was made with heavy influences by Hawaiians and focus on native Hawaiian struggles about maintaining their community despite being pulled apart by having their home turned into a theme park for rich assholes who treat them like a sideshow
+>Nami had a promising career as a surfer tied to her native roots that he had to give up to take care of her sister, but she doesn't resent Lilo for it because she's family and that's what family does. Nami is also constantly frustrated at being forced to work jobs that are fake for tourists
+>The majority of Lilo's issues come from the loss of parents and having to grapple with being being treated as an attraction while still grieving, exasperated by the ginger cunt who consistently antagonizes her because she's probably a well off brat whose parents benefited from the colonization of Hawaii and thinks she's more authentic than Lilo 
+>Cobra is a professional well mannered and ultimately compassionate service worker, but he's still a non-Hawaiian forcing outsiders viewpoints onto Nami and Lilo that will destroy their family for "Lilo's" benefit when what all Lilo needs is a bit more compassion and understanding [which is also what Stich needed]
+
+Lilo and Stich is one of Disney's most woke films and it's amazing watching them systematically remove as many of it's woke elements and subtext as possible
+--- 136733051
+Is this actually confirmed? I can't find any Disney source saying this is real, just a few articles saying their "sources" confirmed it?
+--- 136733182
+>>136732340
+A pro(re)gressive world
+--- 136733403
+>>136732340
+Imagine if they got rid of frozone and made him into a white obese tranny for the incredibles live action
+--- 136733476
+>>136732340
+honk honk
+--- 136733526
+>>136713235 (OP)
+>Cuckoa
+--- 136733578
+>>136721440
+And human sized!
+--- 136733703
+>>136715234
+
+Holy fuck they are making shit up on the Spot, the reason why CPS was there was because the two main providers for Lilo and Nani FUCKING DIED and Nani Just became an Adult if they Listen to Cobra Bubble and Nani at the Start they where already under Investigation from the CPS to find out if Nani was capable of taking care of Lilo.
+--- 136733794
+>>136717947
+Name a time when a black character got turned white and /co/ cheered.
+
+I'll fucking wait.
+--- 136734029
+>>136713235 (OP)
+This shit is DOA already
+--- 136734322
+>>136713260
+He was a big guy
+--- 136734341
+>>136717947
+? Have you literally never seen Spider-Man discussions? To this day most here hate Miles Morales.
+--- 136734705
+>>136722588
+No, that's how CPS reasoning works. If a kid from a full family is behaving weird, then it's just a weird kid. If a kid of a young single mother is behaving weird, then it means the mother isn't capable of raising her kid.
+--- 136735023
+I'm really confused and tired of this shit
+So far /co/ seems bipolar and is anti blacks and pro blacks somehow and /v/ is purely anti black unlike they are presented in media as the ghettoest niggerest motherfucker from GTA SA and stays far away from Japanese media, otherwise they go ballistic
+
+I really am starting to become fatigued, not by blacks, far from it, but mentally terminally autistically ill troons that cannot be normal human beings for once in their damn lives and just take life as it is and focus on fining the better parts of it instead of actively staying in the shit and bitching about it doing nothing to stop it.
+--- 136735166
+>>136735023
+It's easy
+>You wanna adapt beloved media?
+>Keep beloved material even the characters who are POC
+Don't know what's so hard about that for you but Disneyshills seem to have the mental age of a toddler.
+--- 136735360
+>>136735166
+I get having authenticiy autism (I see this from furry IPs like Sonic and Pokemon, hell even Mario thanks to the Movie so I guess it's just some Jap worship kind of thing) but it's just a shitty live action version, as the original still exist. Either ignore the remake and consoom the original, or deal with the remake and find something in it to enjoy. No one cares about changes but autistic boomers.
+
+This thread caring about race just seems either like a psyop or just retardation when the cartoon isn't realistic in the first place. So nothing about it has to be translated one to one just like how comics handle capshit heroes.
+--- 136735368
+So what about Plinkly? Is Disney really willing to open that can of worms?
+--- 136735449
+>>136735360
+>Moving the goalpost to you don't understand to you don't care
+Sure senpai.
+--- 136735504
+>>136735360
+>just like how comics handle capshit heroes.
+Yea, because copying the comics business model is a great idea, it's not a dying industry or anything.
+You retards really never learn.
+Either adapt properly or fuck off and make new shit.
+--- 136735548
+>>136713235 (OP)
+Nice, time to #cancel the mouse for real this time.
+--- 136735561
+>>136735504
+>it's not a dying industry or anything.
+It's dying because they made a timeskip from OG Batman to Batman Beyond? Or Superman to Superboy? Or Teen Titans Robin to Nightwing?
+
+Change was never a problem and still isn't before autistic levels in people got out of control.
+--- 136735621
+>>136735023
+For the most part,>>136735166 is actually right because humans hate change, so changing anything they're used to will cause anxiety. It's very simple and not about rave.
+
+As for your other point, you have to remember the same autistic screeching you keep seeing is always from the same small group of people who are terminally online this site and have been for decades. They will say anything anti establishment for a reaction.
+--- 136735651
+>>136735561
+It's dying because the comics are shit and nothing like the (good) movies.
+Making an adaptation that's nothing like the original only works if the changes are good, and with modern Disney pretty much none of their changes are good.
+This is why modern American media will continue to be garbage and continue to get shit on.
+--- 136735687
+>>136713260
+>You have been adrift in the sheltered harbor of my patience.
+--- 136735704
+>Cleopatra
+>Lilo and Stitch
+>Little Mermaid
+
+I know this has been a trend for a while, but who does this appeal to?
+--- 136736875
+>>136714274
+>that last list name
+ooohhhhh. chimpout!
+--- 136737097
+>>136713740
+So? They replaced Genie after Robin Williams died.
+--- 136737112
+>>136727791
+Yeah, think spanish with asian mixed in
+--- 136737398
+>>136713740
+Just call the Rock, he'll fit in the role.
+--- 136737484
+>>136737398
+I mean... at least he's Cobra-shaped.
+--- 136738356
+>>136737484
+But would his knuckles say Cobra?
+--- 136739609
+>>136738356
+Why not? Unless his ego would demand for the character to be renamed into Rock Bubbles or some shit.
+--- 136739793
+>>136715234
+this person has no knowledge of hawaii, and it shows.
+--- 136739823
+>>136713235 (OP)
+>>136713260
+>constantly make characters black for no reason
+>have black character thats an actual character
+>make them a fucking asian woman
+thats absolutely bizarre even by disney remake standards
+--- 136739927
+>>136717431
+you're not remembering this correctly. We cannot do that legally. we do have a culture that refuses service to those who are disrespectful.
+--- 136740061
+>>136717506
+No, they can't.
+--- 136740663
+>>136733002
+Yep, the evil bodyguard of the evil kid who learns through power of friendship and fairussy to be 5% less evil was supposed to be a massive Russian mobster. Byornson the GoT mountain or any other slab headed white powerlifter would have fit the character to a T. Instead they got a fat black guy in a shatner girdle and choreographed it to match (read, had no fighting requiring choreography) 
+
+The fact they could ruin a series that already had a manic pixie dream girlboss that hard with race and gender swaps is almost impressive.
+--- 136742148
+>>136717947
+Where were you when some idiots thought that casting Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin was an outrage, right here in this board?
+--- 136742904
+>>136727346
+Yes, it's bad casting to replace a black dude with a white woman. It's also bad casting to replace a white woman with a black dude. 
+
+"Twitter hates this" doesn't make something right, just like "twitter loves this" doesn't make it right.
+--- 136742955
+>>136722202
+Fair, you're a good anon
+--- 136743063
+>>136721440
+What if there's no Gantu at all?
+--- 136743335
+>>136715000
+>monarchy overthrown
+>"""forced""" to be part of greatest country in the world
+>this is a bad thing
+--- 136743507
+>>136743335
+
+Nothing is black and white in this word. Doubt you'd say the same thing if a just monarchy is replaced with a "democratic" theocracy.
+--- 136743656
+>>136714593
+>liberated
+They overthrew the monarchy because the Queen was getting uppity about restoring the franchise to poorfags who would have voted against the interests of the anglo-american merchants.
+--- 136744503
+>>136713324
+>Hawaiians HATE black people
+
+source?

co/136715286.txt

@@ -38,3 +38,204 @@ For me it's Bronwyn. Not a furry btw.
 --- 136722860
 >>136717380
 right show wrong girl. Barbara was only 2nd best.
+--- 136722933
+out of most of the "furry icons" of the 90's im surprised colleen never took off. why shoud Callie be the only one who gets a big resurgence in popularity. 
+
+is it because most anons had more dogs than cats as kids and you dont want to think about banging their dog?
+--- 136723373
+One of the best parts of the show.
+--- 136723428
+She deserved so much better, in universe and out
+--- 136724450
+>>136717380
+Kind of
+--- 136725610
+>>136722933
+Based taste
+Not feeling that logic though, lol. I just don't think many people watched RR
+--- 136726004
+>>136715286 (OP)
+https://vocaroo.com/1nLQpjxxDDaM
+--- 136726404
+>>136722860
+porque no los dos
+--- 136726536
+The most underrated of them all.
+--- 136726720
+Princess Aja is cute and awesome.
+--- 136727074
+>>136715286 (OP)
+Pretty sure she's like the fourth most popular girl there
+--- 136727745
+>>136717949
+most americans are ESL at this point
+--- 136727756
+>>136715286 (OP)
+Suki's fucking garbage
+--- 136727819
+>>136727182
+--- 136727950
+>>136715286 (OP)
+Xochi
+--- 136727971
+>>136727819
+--- 136730834
+>>136723373
+>>136727950
+
+Absolutely tragic that there isn't more good porn of them
+--- 136730925
+>>136727819
+>>136727971
+that little detail of her tongue being out and under the nozzle shows that she wants it straight in the throat with no detours.
+--- 136731809
+>>136715286 (OP)
+>>136715365
+>>136715378
+--- 136731945
+>>136715286 (OP)
+It is amazing how hot Vanessa is compared with every other chick in the show.
+--- 136731992
+>>136731945
+She's more gifted than her mom.
+
+Doof's got good genes.
+--- 136733114
+>>136727756
+No, she's fucking Zuko
+--- 136733377
+>>136732325
+>Vagina bones
+I'm listening
+--- 136733435
+Yea, the cartoon she was in was a godawful spinoff, but damn she was one of its saving graces
+--- 136733482
+>>136733435
+She was 100% the animators favorite thing to draw.
+--- 136733555
+>>136733482
+Indeed, the French knew what they were doing
+--- 136734313
+>>136715286 (OP)
+>thread is about underrated girls 
+>suki
+>batgirl
+>caitlin
+>vanessa
+
+u guys are just posting your waifus not following the prompt huh
+--- 136734931
+Everybody talks about Wuya, and rightly so
+But Kimiko never gets any love
+--- 136735207
+>Whole internet is obsessed with the rabbit
+>My perfect sheep wife gets no love
+--- 136735683
+>>136715286 (OP)
+>tfw no new suki content because zoomer fujos obsess over zukka (yes, zuko and sokka being homosexuals, the two men who were canonically shown with girlfriends being very happily straight)
+--- 136736419
+I can explain.
+--- 136736533
+I fell in love with a little ghost and that was all.
+--- 136736860
+I dunno, I get why she doesn't get much appreciation but I still think she's pretty cute, maybe I like mean girls too much. That and her practically scamming that creep Sheldon out of all his money, that was based.
+--- 136737297
+>>136735207
+There's some stuff out there
+--- 136737417
+>>136715286 (OP)
+--- 136737538
+>>136715365
+>>136715378
+>>136731809
+This is why feetfags are always gonna be considered absolute autists, fuck why did I have to be born one.
+--- 136738488
+>>136736419
+I get the feeling her and Olga are always going to mog Helga
+--- 136738522
+>>136731945
+she is everything but underrated
+--- 136738589
+>>136738522
+People here not understanding what underrated means seems to be a recurring pattern.
+--- 136738605
+>>136715286 (OP)
+スキの隙が好き
+--- 136738752
+The girls from Death Jr.
+--- 136739488
+Higgs from Star vs. She was kind of a FOTM when she appeared but was forgotten.
+--- 136739581
+>>136739488
+I think this might actually be for the best, considering how her show turned out and what the fandom here has devolved into she'd likely end up being dragged into self insert bullshit with Marco if anyone still remembered her.
+--- 136739634
+>>136735683
+you mean fan fiction? 
+>>136731945
+I am pretty sure she's at least the second most popular girl on that show
+--- 136739740
+>>136726302
+i miss them so much tinkerbros. and the movies were so good too Besides the Lost Treasure thats the only bad one
+
+maybe i should just be glad that we got 7 movies and a comic/book series .
+--- 136739777
+>>136739740
+also i gotta include the winter fairies
+--- 136739804
+>>136739581
+It is for the better but I enjoyed the Higgs shipping with Marco.
+--- 136739889
+>>136739488
+with girls like jackie and hekapoo, not wonder why other females had barely attention. hell the only reason because people remember kelly is because she shown attraction for marco and self-insertercucks masturbate with the idea
+--- 136739892
+Skara and Viney have some fans here, but they are pretty underrated in the fandom and deserve more art.
+--- 136739966
+>>136739889
+I remember Kelly, I just thought she was neat, I don't care for shipping autism in Star Vs at all, beyond the fact that it ended up ruining the show.
+--- 136740043
+>>136739740
+>7 movies and a comic/book series
+That is an appreciable body of work.
+--- 136740118
+>>136739777
+>that ass on the right
+>those trips
+
+I will now watch your movie.
+--- 136740388
+>>136740118
+if you never seen any of the disney fairies movies, i'd say Secret of the wings is top 3 one of the best ones to watch hell i'd even say if you dont care about order its not a bad one to start with.
+
+also ponytail girl is gliss and dark haired girl is spike.
+--- 136740457
+Princess Golita
+--- 136740631
+>>136738488
+Helga's got more Bob in her.
+--- 136740641
+>>136723373
+You put add any Boondocks chick that isn't Jazmine or Cindy. Too bad the porn fanbase is filled with pedos.
+--- 136740725
+>>136740388
+Getting Ty Lee vibes.
+--- 136741750
+>>136740641
+Background or minor characters generally don’t get a lot of art if they aren’t from a really popular show anon, that’s kinda how it works, whether or not it involves loli and shotafags.
+--- 136743038
+>>136718447
+She deserved an episode to do Kyoshi Warrior things before losing to Azula's crew.
+--- 136743146
+>>136737417
+kek, I remember those threads
+--- 136743217
+>>136741750
+Bullshit. A show like South Park has plenty of porn of characters that barely appear in the show. 
+
+It's more an loli obsession than popularity.
+--- 136743265
+>>136743217
+south park is a very popular show compared to the boondocks
+--- 136743280
+>>136743217
+>South Park
+Anon that show has been running for decades and has a massively autistic fanbase, Boondocks doesn’t.

co/136715428.txt

@@ -39,3 +39,995 @@ Swimsuit challenge next season.
 --- 136722149
 >>136721972
 Kino
+--- 136722920
+>>136722683
+why his nose seems broken?
+--- 136722939
+>>136722920
+He's trying to focus on his flossing.
+--- 136723119
+>>136723016
+their interactions were nice
+--- 136723292
+>>136715428 (OP)
+Sans Lauren, they actually felt like genuine teenagers
+--- 136723306
+Did the World Tour songs age as badly as I fear?
+--- 136723327
+I heard there was a full on braphog episode.
+--- 136723444
+>>136723292
+Not really. You fags desperately want realism in everything.
+--- 136723509
+>>136723306
+There's a few catchy songs here and there but otherwise yeah.
+--- 136723781
+>>136723306
+I liked Wake Up
+--- 136723837
+>>136723327
+there was a guy whose whole character arc was to beat the longest fart record
+--- 136723908
+>>136723837
+And the madlad actually did it.
+--- 136724375
+>>136723837
+>>136723908
+Sadly, he just tied the record. But just wait, our boy will surely break it next season
+--- 136724400
+I want Axel to peg me in the woods all night and then serve me squirrel for breakfast in the morning
+--- 136724459
+I just realized this season didn’t have a team member swap.
+--- 136724491
+>>136715428 (OP)
+>No character with gap teeth
+>No character with beady black eyes
+>No character with glasses
+>No character wearing sandals
+
+I wonder what other design feature was missing in this cast that the last 3 gens had.
+--- 136724513
+>>136724491
+There was also nobody with freckles.
+--- 136724595
+>>136724491
+No fat guy either
+
+>B-but Ripper
+He is buff as fuck
+--- 136724617
+Nah, he's fat like me.
+--- 136724684
+>>136724375
+I really hope so bro.
+--- 136724700
+Emma/Chase F2
+--- 136724985
+>>136724491
+where are the ypipo
+--- 136725210
+>You'll never hear her angered screams slowly wind down to soft sobs as you rape her in the middle of the woods.
+Remember, there's no one to hear you scream when you go deep within the woods.
+--- 136726020
+>>136715480
+I want to watch these two fuck.
+--- 136726035
+>>136724946
+Kill niggers. Behead niggers. Roundhouse kick a nigger into the concrete. Slam dunk a nigger baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy blacks. Defecate in a niggers food. Launch niggers into the sun. Stir fry niggers in a wok. Toss niggers into active volcanoes. Urinate into a niggers gas tank. Judo throw niggers into a wood chipper. Twist niggers heads off. Report niggers to the IRS. Karate chop niggers in half. Curb stomp pregnant black niggers. Trap niggers in quicksand. Crush niggers in the trash compactor. Liquefy niggers in a vat of acid. Eat niggers. Dissect niggers. Exterminate niggers in the gas chamber. Stomp nigger skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate niggers in the oven. Lobotomize niggers. Mandatory abortions for niggers. Grind nigger fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown niggers in fried chicken grease. Vaporize niggers with a ray gun. Kick old niggers down the stairs. Feed niggers to alligators. Slice niggers with a katana.
+--- 136726042
+The new intern girl is such a cutie.
+--- 136726048
+>>136726042
+I hope they bring her on to the show. She’s very cute!
+--- 136726139
+Where's the mega link? I haven't watched yet been busy
+--- 136726191
+>>136724491
+
+They wanted to appeal to the older fans who hated the more comical character designs
+--- 136726215
+>>136726042
+I think the fact they made her fuck up is the cutest part to me. Kinda like she's the clutzy but well meaning type.
+--- 136726232
+>>136726215
+I want to trip her over and then let her climb up and as soon as she climbs up I’m going to trip her again and then laugh at her
+--- 136726312
+>>136726232
+>Bully the cute intern girl into tripping over stuff and being as clutzy as she is.
+>Watch as she blushes and apologies, claiming that she isn't like this usually.
+Infinite cute moments.
+--- 136726573
+>>136726312
+Omg that’s adorable!!
+
+I want to pull pranks on her and make her think that they’re all her fault! I’m going to scold her for things she didn’t mess up just so I can get to stutter and apologize! I’m gonna blackmail her by saying I could complain to the producers and get her fired, then make her humiliate herself even more in front of the rest of the cast!
+--- 136726710
+>>136726573
+Sounds adorable!
+>Complaining about her not getting your coffee despite the face you never asked for one, causing her to stutter and run away to get one for you.
+>Maybe "accidentally" spill coffee all over the outfit, making her to get into one that's tighter then her usual outfit, both enhancing the clumsiness and making it more humilating when she trips over and messes up.
+--- 136726994
+>>136724491
+This really does feel like the season 2 poster with the team divisions and Raj next to Bowie.
+Wayne looks dead inside behind that smile.
+--- 136727008
+>>136726710
+H-hot...especially if all the outfits in her size that the show had in storage mysteriously dissapeared just before the coffee got on her. Strange that the only ones not to be touched were two sizes too small...
+
+How far do you think she'd be willing to go to keep her job? Would it stop at playful teasing? Maybe she'd laugh off the odd lewd remark? Would groping and slapping her butt be too far? Or would she brush it off with a nervous smile and apologize for getting her ass in the way of your hand?
+--- 136727031
+>>136716305
+>both have flat top head
+>both have pointy chins
+>both have pointy noses that point upwards
+>both have blue eyes
+The only real differences are the hair and the ears. Dawn's are larger, damn near elf ears.
+--- 136727122
+>>136727008
+I think she'd be very, very willing to keep her job, especially given that she's probably living on the island away from home meaning you've got her all to yourself away from anyone who'd step in. 
+
+So, she'd probably think that she had slipped up again, falling right into your hand since you could only have the best intentions for her, right? And she keep saying that and saying that each time you do it even if her ass is feeling a bit sore from all the times she "got in the way of your hand as you tried to grab something".
+--- 136727124
+You want me to believe that in 4 seasons of contestants drooling over Justin, Trent, or Mike even, no one found THIS hot?
+
+ with Caleb sharing with him the exact same body type too?! 
+--- 136727138
+>>136723991
+--- 136727231
+>>136727124
+Nice guys finish last
+--- 136727337
+>>136727124
+Definitely one of the hottest males in the franchise.
+--- 136727344
+>>136727231
+He's very sweet, but he's undeniably hot af too, hotter than most of the other boys
+--- 136727357
+>>136727344
+Yeah, but girls and boys like confidence. The only way DJ gets any is if someone gets *really* horny and can't hold themself back.
+--- 136727399
+>>136727124
+They really screwed him up in World Tour, I honestly wanted him gone as fast as possible
+--- 136727738
+Is it trash or cash?
+--- 136727773
+>the large time gap means we'll never see this interaction.
+--- 136727824
+>>136727357
+>people like confidence
+Not all of them, just people with basic tastes
+>someone gets *really* horny and can't hold themself back
+Oh I wonder how that'd play out with him, and WHO would play that in the first place
+--- 136727842
+>>136727773
+--- 136728024
+>>136727231
+>>136727337
+>>136727357
+>7 feet unit
+>huge pecs and rock hard abs
+>strongest biceps for 2 generations
+>it's a total sweetheart inside and outside
+>probably gets super awkard and shy when sex is involved
+>clear bottom energy
+>a dominable beefcake
+
+DJ is literally a god tier sex fantasy
+--- 136728026
+>>136727773
+I doubt they would stay true with the time gap. They probably just retcon it.
+--- 136728310
+I really wish there was no stupid timeskip cause I would love to see these 2 interacting with each other and having some hot gay sex. They're both self centered, narcissistic, thicc pretty boy assholes, that wear khakis and likely come from rich families.
+--- 136728654
+Zee's voice actor or Topher's voice actor could've been the Chris replacement instead of Terry
+--- 136728678
+>>136728654
+>Topher's voice actor could've been the Chris replacement instead of Terry
+Now that you mention it, it would've been really funny if Topher actually did replace Chris himself in the reboot
+--- 136729117
+>>136728631
+Built for being Mating Pressed by Chef
+--- 136729187
+>>136727124
+Heather at the very least gave him a hug
+--- 136729253
+my age headcanons for the new cast
+--- 136729254
+>>136729117
+Built for getting into compromising situations and then getting mating pressed.
+--- 136729321
+>>136728631
+I want to wedgie her so badly
+--- 136729386
+The Total Drama writers have a fart fetish 
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS3jgtUDg80&ab_channel=DaleDoback [Embed]
+--- 136729394
+I only ever watched the first season of this show, how many are there now?
+--- 136729423
+>>136729394
+8 seasons + dramarama
+--- 136729440
+>>136729394
+Three 26 episode seasons + two specials
+Three 13 episode seasons
+One 26 episode "spin-off" season
+Three 52 (11 minute) episode seasons of a "the characters... but kids!" spin-off + a special
+and now two tied 13 episode seasons
+--- 136729450
+>>136729254
+Built for reluctantly having to get DP'ed by Chris and Chef just so she can keep her job.
+--- 136729452
+>>136728654
+Would have been a bit funny if Topher was the host but during the season he gets replaced by Chris due to like low ratings. 
+
+Like the show starts off with the challenges way more tamer than what Total Drama was known for and the show as a whole is way more mellow and competitor friendly (maybe even there is no eliminations because they're considered too mean). But then the shows ratings nosedive, causing the execs to eject Topher and bring in other people to try and be the host (maybe include cameos from previous seasons) then at wits end and on the verge of the show being cancelled, they bring in Chris who just does this insane instant elimination style challenge that eliminates half the cast.
+
+This also has the by-product of characters getting more fleshed out.
+--- 136729516
+>>136729452
+is that capa mickey?
+--- 136729557
+>>136728631
+I want see her getting bullied and trying to act like she doesn't care, as she laughs it off awkwardly and mumbles "it's fine" to herself. I want to see her tripping and getting a water bucket poured on her, as she tries to hold back her tears and with a frail voice say "that was funny, haha.."
+--- 136729581
+Reminder in Total Drama Rama there was a fart fairy that enjoyed smelling farts and smelled children farts and enjoyed it. The writers have a fart fetish and it's disgusting.
+--- 136729598
+>>136729450
+Built for being constantly sexually harrassed by her coworkers and being unable to do anything by stifle her nerves.
+>>136729557
+I want to see someone take a creepshot of her and have her beg them to delete it as she tries not to cry.
+--- 136729639
+>>136729620
+>Izzy x Noah
+--- 136729674
+>>136729386
+>>136729581
+>>136729652
+I wonder how does the network approves of this
+--- 136729835
+>>136727124
+I remember watching TDI as a kid, when I wasn't out to myself yet, and while Justin was just meh to me, DJ made me feel weird things, expecially in the beach episodes. I could not see him as the lovable mama's boy like the show intended him to be, he looked so huge and hot to me. I even dreamt him lol
+--- 136729870
+>>136728310
+They also have similar hairstyles but yeah, the timeskip sucks.
+
+Owen would’ve LOVED Zee or Julia sharing a rivalry with Heather.
+--- 136729972
+I don’t believe the timeskip BS, Rock & Spud are a year younger then the Gen 1 cast and they haven’t aged a day old in Nichelle’s flashback.
+--- 136730101
+>>136729972
+i thought these two were on their late 20's honestly
+--- 136730119
+>>136730101
+Nope, they were confirmed to be 18.
+--- 136730183
+>>136729972
+Which episode were the flashbacks?
+--- 136730245
+>>136729972
+It’s probably just some ash ketchum situation, no big deal
+--- 136730248
+>>136729620
+no
+--- 136730268
+>>136728026
+I think you're coping. This is more than likely their approach at phasing out the prior gens. Likely by network's request.
+--- 136730305
+>>136729440
+>Three 52 (11 minute) episode seasons of a "the characters... but kids!" spin-off + a special
+Imagine all the actual content we could've had instead of that.
+--- 136730553
+>>136730305
+Not their choice, Total Drama got on life support after multiple garbage seasons (+RR kinda flopped) in a row. Dramarama kept the network from shutting off Total Drama for good.
+--- 136730619
+>>136724700
+Perish this evil thought.
+--- 136730639
+>>136726191
+That's not who they were trying to appeal to
+--- 136730683
+>>136729253
+They're all 16
+--- 136730752
+>>136730683
+how do you explain Priya being 16 if she literally was born after her parents watched the show 15 years ago?
+--- 136730770
+>>136730752
+Her recollection wasn't accurate and she was 1 when they began training her for the show.
+--- 136730806
+>>136730770
+but she already trained for it at the moment she was born
+--- 136730825
+>>136730553
+RR flopped because CN treated it like shit. Putting the episodes to the app before they air, barely promoting it and airing it at 5pm every weekday. Granted they aired PI every weekday as well, but at least they promoted that shit like crazy MONTHS before premiere, and then aired a marathon of the entire season before the finals. They didn't even give RR any reruns, let alone marathons. What makes it worse was that they were the first country to air RR, so they had the chance to hype it up but they flopped. Pahkitew was already released in Italy months before the US release, yet the US still treated it relatively well despite the internet already knowing the order of elimination. 
+
+Granted, Stuart Snyder was still in charge of the network then, but by the time RR came around, Christina Miller took over. I always assumed that she didn't give a shit about TD and wanted to focus on garbage kiddy reboots.
+--- 136730842
+>>136730806
+That's just her mom giving birth.
+--- 136730844
+>>136730752
+Her parents wanted her to do the whole reality TV show circuit, so it's not too far fetched to consider that she was born before TD and that's just the one they homed in on after the fact
+--- 136730869
+>>136730825
+That's probably why there was no new TD content for years until the Dramarama stuff. Miller probably didn't like the reality show parody and tbf, that market was waning in those recent years
+--- 136730884
+do we have any metric on how well the new season is performing in italy yet
+--- 136730905
+>>136730884
+Nope. Probably won't know until like next month.
+--- 136730949
+>>136730842
+it was a bungee practice
+
+>>136730844
+that would make most sense
+--- 136731008
+>>136730884
+Maybe this is helpful?
+--- 136731010
+>>136730949
+>it was a bungee practice
+That's what Priya thinks.
+--- 136731027
+>>136731008
+Did a Rick and Morty new season air around the same time?
+--- 136731176
+MK and Damien will be our finalists next season.
+--- 136731275
+>>136731027
+no idea lol, I just paired it up with something that I know it's insanely popular. Here are a few more
+--- 136731330
+>>136731275
+>that sudden spike in interest for Gumball
+--- 136731446
+>>136731330
+I think you're referring to the Owl House there lol. The image is pretty badly made cause I was rushing it. The 2 at the top are:
+>TD Vs Spongebob
+>TD Vs Owl House
+while the bottom 2 are
+>TD vs DBZ
+>TD vs Gumball
+Owl House got a massive amount of searches online when its finale aired.
+--- 136731497
+>>136729620
+--- 136731525
+>>136731446
+Ohhh that makes more sense. Because I was wondering how a long ended show with no new seasons or promotion get a sudden spike all of a sudden. Owl House makes way more sense.
+--- 136732392
+>>136732286
+why is she so perfect bros
+--- 136732613
+Die
+--- 136732683
+>>136732392
+Because women who in no way should be trusted with power tools are super hot.
+--- 136732728
+>>136730683
+Priya is 15 and 2/3 or something like that, so roughly 16.
+--- 136732745
+>>136732683
+Plus she likes black meat.
+--- 136732835
+>>136724946
+>>136730932
+>>136732745
+--- 136732987
+>>136732835
+Oh it's you. Lauren favors Damien over the others.
+--- 136733041
+>>136730825
+RR would've done well in spite of that but it being a spinoff undeniably held it back. Many didn't bother watching it. Reality TV market hit a sharp decline around that point too, playing a part in Total Drama flopping.
+--- 136733062
+>>136732987
+Keep coping and spamming shitty headcanons, retard
+--- 136733104
+>>136733062
+Damiya is never gonna happen. Cope harder :')
+--- 136733139
+>>136733104
+Damien and Scary Girl are never gonna happen. Cope harder. Maybe if they stand next to each other long enough you could keep living in your own world.
+--- 136733161
+>>136733139
+Damuren > Damiya 
+
+Season 2 will prove me right. Let's hope you don't blow your brains out.
+--- 136733214
+>>136732987
+>>136732745
+I thought this was just dumb shipping discourse originally but it totally seems like you’ve got ulterior motives, Damiyaposter.
+
+Let me enjoy my PURE (evil) wife in peace ;_;
+--- 136733224
+>>136733161
+Cope harder.
+--- 136733248
+>>136733214
+>>136733224
+You're not fooling anyone, Damiyafag. Your waifu is getting cucked by Lauren.
+--- 136733318
+>>136733248
+>S-Season 2 will validate my headcanon! The writers WILL take my gimmick waifu seriously!
+Cope harder.
+--- 136733346
+>>136733248
+>>136733318
+I never thought posting one Bob's burger image could set you fags off like this I take it back.
+--- 136733361
+>>136733318
+You're going to OD on copium at this rate, Damiyasperg.
+--- 136733380
+>>136733361
+Says the one consistently stinking up threads with their screenshots and headcanons. You are obsessed and coping severely to seek validation from Season 2.
+--- 136733464
+>>136733380
+>Damiyafag shitting his diaper every time Damien and Scary Girl scenes get posted 
+Lol. LMAO
+--- 136733498
+>>136733464
+Keep proving that you're a delusional clown lost in your own little world.
+--- 136733538
+>>136733498
+>doubles down
+Just several more months to go before your destruction, Damiyabro.
+--- 136733545
+I love Bowie, fem gays are truly evil and vile
+se Him from powerpuff girls as example
+--- 136733570
+I don’t care who she’s dating she’s my WIFE and she’s CUTE and I LOVE HER and I maybe would let her take a bit of my blood if she wanted it
+--- 136733640
+>>136733570
+>Implying you get a choice about how much blood she's taking from you.
+--- 136733693
+>>136733538
+All you like to do is obnoxiously project on people, don't you? Keep attacking arguments that don't exist, Daurenschizo.
+--- 136733715
+>>136733570
+She will destroy Damien.
+--- 136733744
+>>136733640
+T-that’s okay! I’m sure she didn’t mean to take that extra pint of blood anyway. Surgery is complicated! I’m sure all those comments she’s making about my skull are just her being nice, too.
+--- 136733932
+>>136733744
+Oh yes, I'm sure that its all nothing to worry about, Anon! I heard that she may be getting into the dental side of things so she may been to take a couple of your teeth. Only the back ones, of course, the ones you won't miss , right?
+--- 136733979
+Thoughts?
+--- 136734105
+>>136715428 (OP)
+>>136715480
+Why are there elves and Harley Quinn?
+--- 136734126
+>>136721972
+I'm too lazy to do it, but I'm picturing that shark with the skin colour chart from Family Guy.
+--- 136734266
+Now that Total Drama is no longer on Youtube we need a MEGA of the entire show more than ever.
+--- 136734268
+how hilarious would it be if most of the predictions people are making right now will turn out to be wrong again
+>Caleb will either be first boot again or second boot
+>Either Bowie or Priya make it to the final 2 again
+>Raj and Bowie break up, but Chase and Emma will remain together
+>Chase actually goes through development and will be one of the main characters of the season, possible winner even. 
+>Damien won't end up with either Priya nor Scary Girl and will be an early boot again
+>Wayne and Raj will be the double elimination of the season AGAIN
+>Scary Girl makes it far despite being a gimmicky character. 
+>Julia goes home first
+>The new main antagonist will be someone nobody's expecting. Nichelle maybe or hell, Axel. 
+>Millie will have hot sex with Ripper
+--- 136734425
+>>136716305
+
+>We never will have a Dawn arc
+>No villain twist
+>No psicological torture
+>No sexual torture on Scott
+--- 136734561
+>How I really hate these birdies,
+>And I wanna live to see my thirties
+
+She really make it?
+--- 136734573
+>>136734266
+https://mega.nz/folder/kcVXlarY#kgCV4tzYuWndVHbVwIJfVg
+--- 136734587
+>>136730932
+i kinda want to see a scary girl x zee pairing, it'd be fun to pair the craziest camper with the most chill one, she tries to scare and freak him out but he's unfazable until she whips out her tits and starts squirting milk into his face causing him to finally scream
+--- 136734758
+>>136734587
+She's more likely to get with Damien.
+--- 136734764
+Did I miss anyone?
+--- 136734785
+I noticed Caleb sounds a little like Alejandro. Chances of him being Alejandro 2.0? Would be awesome to see a dynamic with Julia. 
+>>136734764
+Julia is SS rank
+--- 136734800
+.I should go back there and give them a piece of my...
+--- 136734856
+>>136730683
+Only true for the gen 1 cast, some others have been confirmed older
+--- 136734911
+Spud and Rock!
+--- 136735031
+where are they now that 12 years have passed?
+--- 136735047
+>>136734785
+>I noticed Caleb sounds a little like Alejandro. Chances of him being Alejandro 2.0?
+Yeah he does sound like Alejandro honestly. Which is why as you said, him and Julia forming dynamics would be interesting. Especially when they'd have a shared enemy in Bowie.
+--- 136735065
+>>136734856
+No they haven't. They were all 16 just like Gen 4. Cope.
+>>136734911
+You know they never really looked like teens to begin with so I could chalk it up to them not really physically aging because they aged faster as teenagers.
+--- 136735265
+>>136734800
+caleb's gonna wreak so much havoc
+--- 136735344
+>>136735265
+And Julia will wreck him and send him home.
+--- 136735356
+>>136735344
+I hope she is like Scott from Revenge and All Stars, 4th/ 5th place of the seasons
+--- 136735362
+>>136735344
+the bitch can try
+--- 136735380
+>>136735344
+>>136735362
+Imagine if this was the final 2
+--- 136735384
+>>136735356
+Scott got 4th in ROTI and 3rd in AS. He only got the latter because he became a non-threat after losing his brains and became a goofy joke boyfriend for Courtney to carry. If Julia wants to get farther, she'd have to go through the same treatment.
+--- 136735392
+>>136735362
+Caleb's not gonna win this season.
+--- 136735404
+Julia and Caleb will be the antagonists of season 2, they even intentionally made Caleb sound like Alejandro (his voice)
+--- 136735408
+>>136735380
+>Julia vs. Caleb
+the sparks would set the island on fire
+--- 136735413
+>>136732987
+>>136733214
+She seems crazier than sierra and izzy
+--- 136735493
+>>136735392
+Julia is better than Heather imo
+--- 136735496
+>>136735413
+Ehhh. Idk. Scarier sure but idk about crazier. And even scary is subjective.
+--- 136735513
+>>136735493
+Yeah. I also feel Caleb will be better than Justin and Alejandro as well.
+--- 136735531
+Caleb Vs Julia finale we need
+--- 136735569
+>Julia votes off Raj to spite Bowie
+>Wayne votes of Julia to get revenge for his bro
+--- 136735575
+>>136735531
+Absolutely. It would be the most explosive finale in TD history.
+--- 136735592
+>>136735569
+>Caleb uses the idol to save Julia from elimination and send Wayne home
+--- 136735630
+Fully expect for Wayne and Raj to have a fall out moment next season, and eventually one of them competing without the other (probably Raj)
+There's a chance they may never make up, unlike K and S
+--- 136735640
+>>136715428 (OP)
+>Crazy One
+--- 136735653
+Wanting Julia to fail is like wanting Heather 2.0 to fail. Julia is like Heather and Courtney combined, and more rutherless which is why julia deserves to be a finalist/ winner.
+--- 136735662
+>>136735630
+Yeah just like how I believe Priya and Millie will be on different teams, Wayne and Raj will also be on different teams as well. Bowie will be on Raj's team.
+--- 136735676
+>>136735653
+Adding the Courtney bit might doom her.
+--- 136735720
+>>136734266
+https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1y6JO2IeWSvQlpuQjQKJQNHZLN6NgAqIR
+--- 136735738
+>>136734758
+>Responding to a headcanon with another headcanon
+--- 136735751
+>>136735662
+>>Bowie will be on Raj's team
+>Raj inevitably gets the boot before the merge
+>Wayne believes Bowie had something to do with it (he isn't smart)
+>He makes it to the merge and starts targeting Bowie
+--- 136735821
+>>136735751
+My guess was that Caleb tries to get Wayne to vote out Bowie.
+--- 136735829
+>>136735738
+Cope.
+--- 136735846
+>>136735751
+Caleb will manipulate Wayne to take out Bowie for sure.
+--- 136735865
+>>136734587
+I want to see Zee talk to Scary Girl more too. He'd probably be the only one to chill with her rather than freak out over her existence 24/7. Maybe.
+--- 136735873
+I really hope Wayne goes further next season, but he's just a joke character...
+--- 136735922
+>>136735865
+Nah Zee will talk to himself and will be eliminated in the first or second episode.
+--- 136735951
+Why you people think Caleb is going to be this super smart villain when he's literally an egotic dude who thought Bowie was "intimidated" just by his body being buff? (Basically gymbros tier level of reasoning)
+--- 136736075
+>>136735951
+>who thought Bowie was "intimidated" just by his body being buff?
+That was.....literally why Bowie wanted him out. Bowie himself said as much.
+--- 136736106
+>>136736075
+Bowie said he was the strongest player, but Caleb only thought that was about being "physically intimidated"
+--- 136736126
+>>136736106
+What the fuck else did it mean? What else could Bowie had seen in Caleb that made him think he was the strongest player that wasn't his physique?
+--- 136736227
+>>136735951
+>when he's literally an egotic dude who thought Bowie was "intimidated" just by his body being buff? (Basically gymbros tier level of reasoning)
+Because that was the reasoning, and it happens all the time in elimination based reality shows.
+--- 136736309
+Calebfags are gonna get the same treatment Axelfags got this season
+--- 136736343
+>>136736309
+Stop seething that you got BTFO for not watching the show.
+--- 136736353
+>>136736309
+Hopefully us Axelfags will get more of her. We probably won't but still, Fingers crossed.
+--- 136736382
+>>136736309
+caleb was the first boot this season.
+--- 136736394
+Caleb will be the New Eziekal. Screencap this.
+--- 136736409
+calebcopers are seething
+--- 136736421
+>>136736394
+>>136736409
+Yeah you're really going overdrive with the fuming here
+--- 136736465
+>>136715428 (OP)
+No. I finally decided to give it a go a few days ago, but the mega I bookmarked was already dead.
+--- 136736679
+>>136736465
+>>136734573
+--- 136736725
+>>136736126
+Caleb was hot enough to manipulate all girls and maybe Raj
+--- 136736732
+>>136715428 (OP)
+i need to get back into total drama
+i watched up until the 4th season (i think, don't even remember) i wanna watch more
+--- 136736744
+>>136736309
+>>136736409
+Chill, it's just speculation since there's not gonna be any new material for another 5-8 months.
+Unless we get lucky and they air it during summer.
+--- 136736777
+>>136736679
+Thanks
+--- 136736841
+>>136736725 
+Yes that depends on what he does with his charm. If he's manipulating people with his looks and "kind" personality along with being athletic, then that's basically painting him similar to Alejandro.
+--- 136736898
+>>136736732
+This season is a pretty good point to come back to the franchise.
+Ridonculous Race is a nice spin off to check out if you are interested
+Completely ignore season 5 (All-Stars) and 6 (Pakithew). Trust me
+--- 136736922
+>>136736309
+Watch Axel make it to the final 4 next season
+--- 136736990
+>>136736732
+Skip All-Stars, watch Pahkitew and Ridonculous. PI was decent and RR was great.
+
+This new season is also good.
+>>136736922
+I'll laugh if she doesn't even make F6.
+--- 136737042
+>>136723306
+WE BUILT GWEN'S FAAAACE
+--- 136737116
+>>136736922
+She didn't give enough relationship dynamics to warrant that. Her only positive was a fat ass and that isn't unique among contestants.
+--- 136737375
+>>136737116
+It is a fairly good fat ass. That and the traits she does have means you can do some fun things with that fat ass.
+--- 136737444
+>>136737116
+There is a lot they can do with her rivalry with Ripper
+Hell, she could be a good pawn for one of the villains considering she is strong, has good survival skills and, unlike contestants like Eva, she isn't antisocial or completely apathetic
+--- 136737492
+>>136737116
+I can see her being voted out because others might consider her "too strong" in the next seasons
+--- 136737603
+>>136737492
+That means she at least makes it to the merge. You don't want to kick the strong players while they are on your team unless you are a fucking dumbass like Scott
+--- 136738166
+>tfw finally made to episode 5
+--- 136738205
+Damien and Caleb will form an alliance next season.
+--- 136738277
+>>136738166
+The fart fetish episode
+--- 136738380
+>>136738166
+It was one of the best episodes in the season.
+--- 136738433
+>>136729386
+>>136729581
+>>136738166
+The only thing hot about it was when Millie did it silently. That has to feel funny though cause her pants
+--- 136738460
+>>136738205
+is it because they're black?
+--- 136738586
+>>136738560
+Julia should have sent them both home.
+--- 136738796
+>>136738586
+Don't worry, she will get her revenge by making sure one of them is the first boot next season
+--- 136738887
+>>136729620
+This is what all FTMs look like
+--- 136738930
+>>136738796
+Both of them should be gone premerge
+--- 136738968
+>>136737116
+>She didn't give enough relationship dynamics to warrant that 
+she will next season
+--- 136738992
+>>136738968
+This is irrelevant
+--- 136738995
+How tf do you think the drag race episode is gonna go?
+--- 136739097
+>>136738992
+Wrong
+--- 136739109
+>>136738675
+was anyone else really bothered by the raccoon design changes this season
+those legs when they're walking look weird
+--- 136739139
+>>136739097
+>two second one sided convo created a new crackship
+--- 136739149
+>>136738995
+>Each team has to choose one contestant to be their drag queen
+>It's Ripper and Wayne for top comedic effect. Bowie doesn't want to do it, he is "not a stereoype"
+>Chef teaches them how to be the fiercest versions of themselves while wearing the dress from Action
+>Hilarity ensues
+--- 136739188
+>>136735031
+MK is their daughter
+--- 136739264
+>>136739149
+Fuck off Fresh executive.
+--- 136739310
+>>136738995
+prove me wrong
+--- 136739376
+>>136729581
+>>136729652
+>>136729674
+The worst has to be Beth maybe going in her pants
+--- 136739404
+>>136739310
+Needs another tier for characters that are kinda into it, and that's where I would put Zee and Emma. I feel like they would both like the experience, especially Zee
+Also, Julia would be reluctant at most, she plays to win and will do drag if it means her team gets immunity
+--- 136739462
+>>136738995
+>>136739149
+Drag is sexist and womanface (like blackface, but womanface)
+--- 136739525
+>>136739149
+Ripper would chad that up for sure
+--- 136739531
+>>136739149
+>>136739310
+Honestly, I think Bowie won't be involved/win it bc stereotypes. SG will prob win bc she'll dress like a Victorian gentleman (monocle, moustache, and tophat included).
+--- 136739827
+>>136738968
+I can see Michelle trying to learn to be the super action heroine she plays in the movies from Axel yeah this could work for season 2.
+--- 136739862
+>>136739531
+Bowie is a walking stereotype
+--- 136739882
+>>136739310
+We don't know enough about Caleb
+--- 136739946
+>>136738433
+The making of that had to be odd. Having her say that too
+--- 136740100
+>>136739946
+Eh, it's Zoey's voice actor, she's used to saying dumb shit in this show
+--- 136740117
+Breakfast is ready, anon. Eat
+--- 136740149
+>>136740117
+>voted off
+--- 136740203
+>>136739827
+>>136740117
+>axel puts nichelle through a bunch of various zany and unhelpful tortures to "help her be a real action hero"
+>gets voted off when everyone finds out what she's doing to nichelle
+kino
+--- 136740216
+>>136740117
+Honestly I've heard it's squirrel meat doesn't taste that bad, kinda like rabbit in a way but sweeter and, humorously enough, slightly nutty.
+--- 136740268
+>>136740216
+Zee stop posting
+--- 136740316
+>>136740268
+>implying Zee knows how to use a computer
+--- 136740358
+>>136740268
+You'd be surprised how good some of this stuff tastes, Anon. Wild rabbit is pretty great, especially if you don't shoot it and just ferret it instead.
+--- 136740441
+>decent gay pairing
+>can't like it sexually because I can only see Bowie as a woman
+
+>>136739531
+Didn't Bowie win both prom queen and king. Of course he'd be into drag.
+--- 136740483
+>>136740441
+Bowie's like a jack of all trades.
+--- 136740517
+>>136729620
+why was Lindsay into Tyler?
+--- 136740531
+>>136740517
+Because Lightning wasn't in the cast yet.
+--- 136740567
+>>136740441
+Are you implying Wayne and Raj would be a cute gay pair?
+Nah, anon, Wayne loves Raj but he doesn't love him that way, you know?
+--- 136740682
+The poster below me is a NERD
+--- 136740683
+>>136715428 (OP)
+I haven't watched any episode of TD since 2012
+--- 136740730
+>>136740567
+Nah, I wasn't one of those pre-shippers. I already predicted that either Raj or Zee would be the one in the relationship with Bowie, since there was a promised gay couple, and the early trailers showed Caleb was first boot.
+I just wanted a canon gay couple I could find hot, but half of it is Bowie. Beggars can't be choosers.
+--- 136740774
+>>136740682
+>>136740683
+Wow you were right
+--- 136740787
+NEEEERD
+--- 136740907
+>>136740787
+What is going through Damien's head when Ripper is ripping on him for being a nerd?
+--- 136741088
+>>136739862
+No shit, I'm saying it'd be too predictable
+>>136740441
+Probably something out of his control will make him lose
+--- 136741154
+>>136740907
+>I ain't no nerd
+--- 136741250
+>>136740907
+"damn I wish I was as cool as Ripper, he's so awesome and handsome"
+--- 136741312
+>>136741250
+OK, Ripper.
+--- 136741745
+>>136741673
+>"lol dumbass"
+--- 136741781
+>>136741673
+fun fact, the girl's a dramarama character https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuBL8GM_EFI [Embed]
+--- 136742015
+>>136741781
+>Fresh reusing them assets
+--- 136742016
+>Flaunt having an openly gay character for the first time (who to their credit was very well written)
+>Go full "Why Women Deserve Less" on Emma by having her basically throw the game by simping for her garbage ex who had already been eliminated
+What did they mean by this?
+--- 136742202
+>>136740730
+why is he so ugly
+--- 136742343
+First season of TD to show uncensored testicles
+--- 136742346
+>>136742202
+Yikes. That's one ugly faggot.
+--- 136742417
+>>136742343
+The first season had bull testicles too
+--- 136742442
+>>136742380
+>Julia gets trapped in a cum jar
+--- 136742482
+>>136742442
+--- 136742508
+>>136742442
+
+>Damien gets the cum bath
+--- 136742656
+>>136742614
+Dumb BITCH
+--- 136742793
+>>136742528
+Cum
+--- 136742862
+Is it weird I find Scary Girl attractive and cute even though I've been scared of goth girls all my life?
+--- 136742863
+Next season's merge will happen in episode 8.
+--- 136742972
+>>136729581
+Based.
+--- 136743049
+>>136742863
+i wonder which characters who made merge this season has the best chances on making merge again next season
+--- 136743084
+>>136742614
+How did her lipstick get to her hair?
+--- 136743270
+>>136742442
+>>136742508
+What will she do?
+--- 136743297
+>>136743256
+She looks so cute in the side view.
+--- 136743410
+>>136742442
+>>136742482
+--- 136743447
+>>136743270
+Scary Girl will make sure she feeds her Damien once a day.
+--- 136743648
+>>136742202
+The TD style does Bowie no favors, he looks consistently better in fanart.
+--- 136743851
+>>136743648
+>he looks consistently better in fanart
+ehh not really
+--- 136743975
+>>136715428 (OP)
+yah it was pretty solid
+--- 136744001
+>>136743951
+So will the raptors target Damien for revenge?
+--- 136744015
+1 STEAMBOAT 2 STEAMBOAT 3 STEAMBOAT 4 STEAMBOAT
+--- 136744031
+>>136744015
+Don't....please don't...
+--- 136744037
+>>136726035
+There's no beat to this.
+--- 136744048
+>>136744001
+why would they go after damien? it's not like he was the one who killed the raptor.
+--- 136744395
+>>136743851
+Yeah really. His hair works in different styles from what I see of him.
+--- 136744418
+>>136729253
+Why are they all brown?
+--- 136744524
+>>136744418
+>Anon needs to get his eyes checked
+--- 136744560
+>>136715428 (OP)
+>Depicts Shawn as a zombie 
+So he wouldn't make it, huh?
+--- 136744562
+>>136744331
+>jobs a second later
+--- 136744580
+>>136744560
+It means that Axel must respect Shawn's powers that she built a zombie standee of him for motivation.
+--- 136744599
+>>136744560
+I want Shawn to come back just so those two could interact. Maybe he was an inspiration to her?

co/136716077.txt

@@ -154,3 +154,333 @@ God Ice and Fire was so fucking stupid
 >Muto invests more time into entertaining and then letting slip a lesbian makeout session in the show finale, where Finn's two former love interests suck each other's tongues
 
 Jesus fuck man what kind of stupid asshole projects their pathetic teenage years this hard.
+--- 136722919
+>>136722864
+This sounds like he wanted to make Chainsaw Man but didn’t have the skills and talent to make Chainsaw Man
+--- 136722940
+>>136722919
+I'd be rock hard for this.
+--- 136722967
+>>136716077 (OP)
+I stopped watching after Frost v Fire episode.
+--- 136723057
+It's been a decade
+Just accept that the writers are pretentious assholes who hate fun and go write a fapfic or something I dunno just move on this isn't going to change the past
+--- 136723068
+>>136721954
+I've been on /co/ for more than 10 minutes. I should clarify that it was the concept as a whole that he found amusing. Like the fact someone would call someone a finncel.
+--- 136723194
+>>136723057
+I've read every Finn x Bronwyn fabric there is, and I want MORE!
+--- 136723554
+>>136723068
+Finn isn't even an incel, as he's had women attracted to him at one point
+
+Sex havers have really colonized the word incel to mean "any man we don't like" regardless of whether or not they've had sex, being a turbo virgin is literally the #1 requirement for being an incel
+--- 136723790
+>>136723057
+>go write a fapfic or something I dunno just move on
+
+I am kind of doing something like that, although personally I don't feel writing fan fiction is moving on, in fact, I think that makes someone more committed. 
+
+I don't have anything more important or interesting in this space right now otherwise I would be able to redirect my focus, and I think that's true with many people who have similar dispositions. I suspect you won't be the one to provide that outlet for us so unfortunately this groundhogs day is something you have to live with until you learn to ignore it. 
+
+>>136723194
+...got any recommendations?
+--- 136723828
+>>136716710
+He already said why
+Also there's fuckloads of shows where a common complaint is that the MC is some annoying gobshite
+--- 136723835
+>>136716147
+Adult character basically getting de-aged to be with a young kid is the most cringe degenerate fanfic tear nonsense. Of course only schizos see value in it.
+--- 136723838
+>>136723068
+The term as a whole confuses me, is it just a general term for people that like Finn or is there something more to it?
+--- 136723850
+>>136720473
+Is that fucking PAPER tho?
+--- 136723867
+>>136722346
+Fire Princess belongs to the big cinamon roll 
+Captcha GODAM
+--- 136723875
+>>136723828
+He didn’t he just said he hated Finn after people started self inserting, and again that doesn’t explain why he would continue to watch a show with a protagonist he doesn’t like
+--- 136723893
+>>136723838
+People who take personal offence about stuff like Finn getting no bitches, and/or otherwise persistently post/fish for art displaying him as a pussy slayer and make threads and posts railing against against the show's writers
+--- 136723899
+>>136723850
+It’s arguably a hell of a lot better, also does Ooo even have a standardized paper currency?
+--- 136723940
+>>136723893
+I’m not into the whole pussy slayer bit, but it was kind of fucked up how after Jake died he lived a sad and lonely life just waiting for death
+--- 136724536
+>>136723554
+Again I wasn't like commenting on the deeper meaning, we were just laughing at the existence of it at all.
+--- 136724542
+>>136723875
+By that logic he could hate any show because self inserters. All it takes to be called one by them is caring about the MC.
+--- 136724580
+>>136724542
+Dude all I’m saying is that he didn’t say why he disliked Finn, he only said he grew to hate him later.
+--- 136724685
+>>136724580
+Yeah he hates him based on people who exist for any important or popular enough character regardless, and the reasoning for why people are self inserters is just caring about the character or talking about them enough.
+--- 136724736
+>>136724685
+That’s especially retarded since whether you like him or not everyone is going to talk about Finn since he’s the fucking protagonist,
+--- 136724888
+>>136724580
+>he didn’t say why he disliked Finn, he only said he grew to hate him later.
+Incorrect. I explicitly stated I never liked him. I grew to HATE him because of the self inserters. And by the way, I don't like Finn because he's an annoying, milquetoast twat. 
+
+>>136724736
+Nobody talks about Finn outside of shipping bullshit. He's the worst character in the show, and nobody actually gives a damn about him.
+--- 136724934
+>>136724888
+>if you talk about the shipping shit in the show ur a self inserter and should stop
+Why
+--- 136724967
+>>136724888
+Also based on what are you saying no one cares about the character? The shipping was important and they ended the series focusing on it with bubbline.
+--- 136725216
+>>136724888
+Milquetoast? How?
+--- 136726204
+I've found it hard to truly articulate exactly why I even like Fubblegum, let alone consider it my favorite ship. But I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the two genuinely care about each other, regardless of how the various moments that express this may be retroactively read differently (platonic instead of romantic or vice versa). The various kisses are obvious and frankly surface level, but it's not those that really convince me that the two would work with some tweaking.
+
+Her casually showing up to the treehouse from time to time early in the show to hang out. PB expressing concerns about Finn dating FP, not only in potentially causing a cataclysmic event, but it also putting Finn in danger, which Jake suggested could be jealousy, much to PB's embarrassment. PB willing to take a literal punch to the face from Finn just to set his mind straight at the end of The Tower (I give the season 6 arc the shit it deserves, but this moment was actually pretty heartfelt). The entirety of Pajama War, which felt like it was written in an alternate dimension. The various times that PB would just play along with Finn's bullshit just for fun (Video Makers, The Creeps, James II). Hosting an entire musical concert just to lift Finn's spirits after he was bummed out about breaking the Finn Sword. And, of course, OP's aforementioned episode.
+
+I could go on and on. Point is, throughout the show, in as much as Finn does stuff for PB, she not only takes time to show her appreciation back, but relishes in it, occasionally betraying her feelings in doing so. It's cute. They're cute. Simple as.
+--- 136727880
+>>136716077 (OP)
+Because this change only worked if the show ended right when she got de-aged. Mortal Recoil was probably going to be the original series finale until they got renewed for season 3. The writers couldn’t write a feasible relationship between Finn and PB so early in the show as endgame couples rarely start so early and it’s possible that the writers believed the audience would realize the weird implications of said relationship if it dragged on, implications which the writers themselves were becoming more uncomfortable with. The whole situation with kid PB showed that Fubblegum could only work under specific circumstances which couldn’t be repeated again. However, I do believe that if Finn was some immortal person who was present in PB’s life since her childhood like Marceline, a relationship between them would’ve been possible. It just goes to show that the PB de-aging deal was like a miracle to Finn but unfortunately for him there wasn’t enough that could be done to keep the change, in the show’s world and in the real world.
+--- 136728091
+Reminder that even Ice King dipped when he saw her de-aged
+--- 136728145
+>>136716077 (OP)
+I actually like that Finn never ended up with anyone for real, he had to deal with so much bullshit that after a while I just wanted him to focus on being a hero
+--- 136728186
+>>136720095
+Why else would they de-age PB if not because they thought the show was ending? The writers immediately changing her back to her original age early in season 3 shows this.
+--- 136730229
+>>136722346
+Based flinnsister, she should've been endgame
+--- 136730577
+>>136724967
+Nobody actually likes Finn for Finn, they like him as a vector for their pathetic fantasies. 
+
+>>136725216
+He's a bog standard heckin good boy who's also possibly retarded. He's a shonen protagonist, essentially, who gets to win solely because the plot says he has to. Never mind he's demonstrably incompetent in pretty much all aspects. He's the "hero", so the story will bend over backwards to accommodate him.
+--- 136730961
+>>136724888
+>He's the worst character in the show.
+Incorrect, any female character in the show is much worse than him
+--- 136731033
+>>136730577
+>Nobody actually likes Finn for Finn, they like him as a vector for their pathetic fantasies.
+Romance was important to Finn and other characters in the show, it's part of the character. How is wanting the MC to get what the gay side characters got pathetic fantasies? You just have a hate boner for the character and you're saying anything at this point to try and justify it even if it doesn't make sense.
+--- 136731128
+>>136730577
+He’s a good kid with a noble soul that despite his short comings just wants to help people and do right. He fucks up sure but he doesn’t ever give up or quit. Also stop projecting your weird shit onto people just because a shipfags exist doesn’t mean those are the only people who like Finn.
+--- 136731225
+>>136716710
+Jake carries this fucking show on his back. That's how I watch this shit show.
+--- 136731230
+>>136730577
+There's a difference between liking someone and wanting to be him. I liked Finn as a dumbass kid who goes on silly adventures and sometimes does right by being stupid. He was entertaining.
+--- 136731280
+>>136730577
+>He's the "hero", so the story will bend over backwards to accommodate him.
+You can say this about plenty of main characters and even then you can easily prove Finn didn't only ever win or do well in the show.
+--- 136731454
+>>136730577
+>Nobody actually likes Finn for Finn, they like him as a vector for their pathetic fantasies.
+so what, are you concerned that this distinction is going to hurt his feelings?
+--- 136731460
+Why does everyone ITT thinks that all shipfags must be self-inserting as Finn? Women are mostly the ones that love melodrama and YA romance trash and if anything boys were the ones that hated the show when it became relationSHIT time
+--- 136731556
+>>136728186
+This one doesn't know much about Adventure Time's production. The show had a TERRIBLE case of dueling storyboarders, where one storyboarder would write in a plot element while another would decide he didn't like it and write it out of the story. It happened a LOT over the course of the show. The most infamous example is how they kept going back-and-forth over Finn's arm for a while.
+--- 136731643
+Because Ward didn't have shit mapped out. This is the ultimate fuck up with all these shows.
+
+See, if you don't have things mapped out, it's easy for the freaks on your team to rally the other freaks into forcing something, and once enough of the staff wants something you're fucked because if you don't give it to them you'll be undermined. PB being forced to slowly grow back to her regular age was the correct choice, since it'd have killed Marceline as a romance partner without making her a predator on someone underage. 
+
+The tragedy here is that they even did the plotline about her being ousted from rule of the Candy Kingdom, which shows the show could have functioned fine with that. They could have just done a season or two where Finn and her get a year or two older and then she's old enough to rule again. Ward was not canny enough to do this and cared too much about his Adventure of the Week shit to protect the overall product he realized too late he'd been usurped and pushed out
+--- 136731778
+>>136731556
+>The most infamous example is how they kept going back-and-forth over Finn's arm for a while.
+Kek, I always had the feeling that they regretted making Breezy
+--- 136732054
+>>136716077 (OP)
+And Finn would've STILL lost. Anon we got shanked by the writers. I don't like Bubbline either. Bubblegum x Marshal Lee is the best pairing.
+--- 136732118
+>>136731033
+Oh NOW romance is okay and important. Nice double standard there, retard. 
+
+>>136731128
+>he's a good kid
+Translation: He's a boring waste of space.
+--- 136732192
+>>136716077 (OP)
+How would Marceline have reacted to them dating?
+--- 136732270
+>>136723194
+>I've read every Finn x Bronwyn fabric there
+You can't just say that and not give any titles
+--- 136732312
+>>136716077 (OP)
+>he wanted Finn to get raped 
+
+All you /ss/ faggots should get hung.
+--- 136733049
+>>136732312
+Finn wouldn’t have been the one being raped in that situation.
+--- 136734070
+>>136732118
+>Oh NOW romance is okay and important
+I never argued that romance wasn't important, retard. You're seething over "finncels" for caring about romance as if it's such a problem but have nothing to say about how bubbline romance was pushed. How many gay people self inserted as the immortal lesbians? But of course it's not an issue then because it doesn't include Finn.
+--- 136734113
+>>136732118
+>He's a boring waste of space
+He a cartoon character he’s supposed to represent an ideal
+--- 136734122
+>>136716077 (OP)
+so the feminazis working on the show could make her gay
+--- 136734147
+Stop fighting. We're all good here
+--- 136734696
+>>136734147
+--- 136735822
+best route
+--- 136735879
+>>136735822
+Sus
+--- 136737371
+>>136732054
+how tf do you dislike bubbline but like pbxmarshall. I just have to assume you don't like any yuri ship at that point.
+--- 136737426
+>>136728186
+Moynihan has said that there was talk in the writers' room that lil PB would last longer, but they changed their mind. 
+
+>>136731556
+No, this isn't quite right. There was still a dedicated writing team who would hand out outlines. Aging up PB in Too Young was not Moynihan or Herpich's decision. It was Pen's/Pat's/Kent's/whoever else was in the writing room at the time.
+--- 136737481
+>>136716077 (OP)
+Show runs on Finn misery
+--- 136737498
+>>136716077 (OP)
+I never liked the ship but the lesbian shot wasn’t good either
+--- 136737499
+>>136735879
+>Sus
+not sus but have Susan too
+--- 136738157
+>>136737426
+--- 136738189
+to be honest i never really understood why Fubblegum couldn't have been a thing
+
+>PB doesn't age, while Finn ages normally so the age gap isn't a valid argument
+>They could have all the drama they wanted with Finn trying to be more mature for his princess, or PB being anxious about the fact that Finn is going to die eventually but she will never die
+
+honestly, where's the downside?
+--- 136738280
+>>136716900
+But i don't know how to make cofe?
+--- 136738325
+>>136738189
+The age gap closes, but it's still pretty weird since PB knew him since he was a kid.
+--- 136738346
+>>136738325
+Some cartoon pairings start out that way, remember Ferb and Vanessa.
+--- 136738372
+>>136738346
+that's weird too.
+--- 136738423
+>>136716077 (OP)
+
+Since she walks barefoot doesn’t debris get stuck to it?
+--- 136738492
+>>136738280
+no worries you're probably a natural
+--- 136738565
+>>136738325
+>>136738372
+i don't know what's weird about knowing someone for a long time before getting in a relationship...
+--- 136739262
+>>136738565
+>t. groomer
+--- 136741888
+>>136738189
+They also have all kinds of ways to extend his lifespan with the magic and tech that existed in the world, including but not limited to making him a vampire. Honestly though Finn as a vampire would be kind of overpowered.
+>>136739262
+Applying rules or standards from another world to characters doesn't make much sense, especially rules from a world like this where they say even 20 year old adults can be "groomed".
+--- 136742752
+>>136741888
+I don't buy this argument. What's the point of fiction if we aren't supposed to apply our own understandings and standards onto it? Unless the point is for it to be some so alien, avante garde work we can't relate to it at all, which adventure time isn't. They may be a vampire, a sentient piece of gum, a talking dog, a wizard, whatever, but their characters are fundamentally human, which is why we give a fuck about who they're shipped with to begin with. It being an animated, fantasy show makes it feel more disconnected from reality, which is why people are more comfortable shipping certain pairings than they otherwise would be, but it's still weird when you stop and think about it.
+--- 136742753
+>>136740515
+I’ll forgive Muto for everything he’s done if he makes this pairing canon in the upcoming series.
+--- 136742937
+>>136742752
+>What's the point of fiction if we aren't supposed to apply our own understandings and standards onto it?
+If you only applied your standards or what's expected based on this life none of the supernatural stuff could exist. Finn in this instance wouldn't be allowed to slay monsters and risk his life on a regular basis or even have the freedom he has in general. I just don't think in this context an age gap relationship would be that bad because you're not even talking about normal people or normal life anymore. It's a completely different situation. You can think it's weird or not like it but obviously the standards or rules for the universe are different, why should it conform to inconsistent rules from this life?
+--- 136743166
+>>136742937
+It's a fantasy setting, but the characters are still human and subject to moral judgment just like any other character in any other story. It seems ridiculous to me that we shouldn't assess the morality of actions within their world just because it's not 1:1 with our own. There's nothing to be learnt from any fantasy show if that was the case.
+--- 136743354
+>>136743166
+You can have your opinion on it but I'm saying if the characters were only allowed to act based on rules in this life you would have a much more boring show. What's considered dangerous and too far here is fine there because the situation is different. They're similar to humans here but not the same. They still have struggles, emotions and behaviors similar to humans here but not the same limitations.
+--- 136743682
+>>136743354
+You're right that some of the fantasy elements, like fighting monsters, are meant to be viewed through a 'cartoony' lens. We shouldn't look at that the same as if it were presented more realistically. Otherwise we would have to see Jake as a thoroughly awful person. You do have to take the context of the cartoon universe into account. My point is that the characters themselves are human, even if the situations they deal with are fantastical. Finn is still a 12 year old boy. We would view an adult getting with someone they knew when they were 12 as fucking weird, and I don't see the situation with PB and Finn as fundamentally different. What about the AT universe makes that more acceptable? I don't think the same argument you can use for fantasy violence applies here.
+--- 136743889
+>>136743682
+If Finn despite his age can risk his life fighting then having a relationship with older women shouldn't be that bad, it's not even uncommon in this world. Yeah it might be considered weird to certain people and it can potentially be harmful but in a situation like this it's just not as bad because you're not dealing with a typical kid or older woman. Besides what I said about Finn PB can change also her age to relate with him better which isn't possible here. In parts of this world you can also sign up to risk your life or die at 18 but can't drink until 21. There's all kinds of inconsistencies about what people decide to have an issue with or think shouldn't happen. If you say the age gap relationship shouldn't be allowed you would also have to say the adventuring shouldn't be allowed because I'm assuming this is all about concern for the characters safety. The adventures is allowed because Finn isn't normal at all and can handle himself, I don't see why the same shouldn't apply to a relationship with older girls.
+--- 136744241
+>>136743889
+>If you say the age gap relationship shouldn't be allowed you would also have to say the adventuring shouldn't be allowed
+No I don't, and I explained why. The world itself is what isn't normal. You can dismiss the adventuring as not being that dangerous because it's a fantasy world. The characters and relationships are not fantastical, they're very human (on a personality/behavioural level). They're supposed to seen that way so that we relate to them, and have something to anchor the fantasy world in reality. 
+>you're not dealing with a typical kid or older woman
+What about Finn and PB, from a strictly personality/maturity standpoint, differentiates them from a young kid or adult woman in our world?
+--- 136744298
+>>136744241
+>In parts of this world you can also sign up to risk your life or die at 18 but can't drink until 21
+Only in 3rd world countries like the US.
+--- 136744428
+>>136744241
+>You can dismiss the adventuring as not being that dangerous because it's a fantasy world. The characters and relationships are not fantastical, they're very human (on a personality/behavioural level)
+No you can't because death is still a thing in the universe and Finn gets seriously injured multiple times adventuring, this is a serious threat despite it being fantasy. And Finn takes on these responsibilities that neither kids here or adults would bother with or handle as well.
+>What about Finn and PB, from a strictly personality/maturity standpoint, differentiates them from a young kid or adult woman in our world?
+See above because the things Finn does and experiences can't be dismissed unless they were just jokes that didn't actually happen or something. I already explained if he can risk his life then this is nothing and PB being able to change her body to literally be on Finns level age wise. You can also be years above the American age of consent and be lacking in maturity or have a different personality than your partner. Another inconsistency is you're not even fully mature at 18 but you're allowed to both risk your life/die and have sex.
+--- 136744467
+>>136716077 (OP)
+She would have ended up staying young while Finn aged
+--- 136744536
+>>136744467
+Unless Finn also got stuck at that age for some reason
+--- 136744571
+>>136744428
+Do you fear for Finn's life on any given random adventuring episode? Of course you don't, because you know it's a fantasy/comedy cartoon, and that feeds into your perception of what's happening. We aren't supposed to see it as dangerous as a realistic analog would be. The characters are different because they are grounded in reality. Agree to disagree my friend. I have to go anyway.
+--- 136744593
+>>136744571
+Not that anon, but I think you're right. I find it pretty odd when people think that any amount of fantasy in a setting means that absolutely no rules or expectations apply
+--- 136744622
+>>136744571
+You could argue you don't fear for any main characters life because they have plot armor or a need to continue living for the show to go on. But he still faces genuine threats regularly, it's not just jokes. The Lich and Golb were some of the worst.
+--- 136744642
+Princess Bubblegum was sitting in her laboratory, conducting some experiments. She was trying to find a way to create a new source of food for the Candy Kingdom. Suddenly, she remembered a legend about a magical ham that could feed an entire kingdom for months. Determined to find it, she set out on a journey with her loyal companion, Jake the Dog.
+
+After weeks of searching, they finally stumbled upon a cave. Inside the cave, they found the magical ham! But it was guarded by a giant, angry pig who was also a lover of ham. Princess Bubblegum knew they had to defeat the pig if they were going to take the ham.
+
+She used her scientific knowledge to create a ham-shaped bomb to distract the pig while Jake used his shapeshifting abilities to sneak up on the pig and knock it out. Finally, they were able to take the magical ham.
+
+On their way back to the Candy Kingdom, they were ambushed by a group of candy-loving monsters who wanted the ham for themselves. But Princess Bubblegum was not one to back down from a challenge. She used her wits and her bubblegum powers to trap the monsters in a giant bubble, effectively neutralizing the threat.
+
+When they finally arrived back at the Candy Kingdom, Princess Bubblegum was greeted with cheers and praises for finding a new source of food. They roasted the magical ham and shared it with everyone, and it was the best meal they had ever had. From that day on, Princess Bubblegum was hailed as a hero, and the Candy Kingdom never went hungry again.
+--- 136744658
+>>136744593
+I'm just asking for consistency and wondering why they're pretending Finn doesn't face real threats to his life in the show or it doesn't count because it's a fantasy setting with comedic elements.

co/136716223.txt

@@ -104,3 +104,180 @@ Wait no keep going, I like the Steven Segal analogy
 --- 136722394
 >>136720768
 blatant just means obvious, its not inherently a bad thing
+--- 136723249
+>>136721076
+Is she an actual self-insert? Like, is she Kathleen Kennedy or is there any other big name lady involved in Star Wars?
+--- 136724775
+>>136716223 (OP)
+I want to insert my self in Shion
+--- 136724836
+>>136716223 (OP)
+Reagan is so punchable, holy shit.
+--- 136725139
+>owemooigodimfockinmariwuelcoaughtwrightowmegoudtayekmoibeagfoking nob
+--- 136725168
+>>136725139
+
+u wot
+--- 136725176
+Inside Job’s cancellation was my 13th reason…
+--- 136725362
+>>136717826
+This doesn't just apply to cartoons at all, homie nailed it.
+--- 136725379
+Tried to watch it. Made it about 5 minutes into the first episode. (That says something. I usually watch terrible shows to the end). The humor was insanely predictable and cliche and the whole thing felt like it was trying too hard. I’ll try it again at some point but suffice to say, this did not hook me the way I thought it would given how people talk about it.
+--- 136725399
+>>136716223 (OP)
+made for corruption
+--- 136725823
+>>136724775
+HARD same
+--- 136726268
+>>136725379
+I can't even blame you. This show's writing style and joke setups can be VERY cliché and predictable. A lot of easy jokes here and there. But the shadow govt. episode ideas are just so creative and the level of sincerity with which they tie into various characters' personal struggles makes it a show worth sticking through for at least a couple more episodes. I say give it another try when you have the chance.
+--- 136726363
+>>136717671
+Because those who like you like you for your totally awesome personality and sharp wit you ugly duckling
+even if you are writing them to like y-*BLAM
+--- 136726887
+>>136717262
+/thread
+--- 136726984
+>>136718174
+I think it only becomes a problem when you give too much focus into one character and make them mary sue-ish rather than spreading the spotlight for everyone else.
+I like to make fake stories in my head and I pretty much self insert into every character I create and give them bits of my qualities. Even assholes/villains I can resonate with.
+--- 136729292
+>>136716223 (OP)
+90% of protagonists are self inserts, god you faggots are annoying
+--- 136729320
+>>136718174
+I will shamelessly self-insert in my own work and make sure the character based off me goes through hell because I think I can't comprehend my life going anywhere else but down.
+--- 136729350
+>>136721076
+>>136723249
+Not really, she was created by a man and all three sequels (and the rest of the saga) were written and directed by guys
+--- 136729374
+>>136726984
+>I think it only becomes a problem when you give too much focus into one character and make them mary sue-ish rather than spreading the spotlight for everyone else.
+This really is the main problem and the Mary Sue is just a different way of talking about a bigger problem.
+That of 'You made the story feel fake because we can see the strings'
+--- 136729396
+How does one obtain a Reagan GF
+--- 136729417
+>>136716223 (OP)
+Tons of artists and creators self-insert, some just do it more blatantly or keep it more for specific occasions. Like having a mouthpiece character pop up as opposed to the writer making a character that's basically them as a kid, just cartoonified, like El Tigre.
+--- 136729476
+>>136725176
+to unsubscribe from netflix? good.
+--- 136729537
+>>136719056
+>a new love intrest
+It actually works well. He's like Reagan with a conscience. Most of the actual plot is driven by Reagan vs Rand.
+--- 136729556
+>>136718174
+Presence of a self-insert protag in a series that is not about the author's life is almost always a telltale sign of bad quality
+--- 136731621
+Reagan sexo
+--- 136731825
+>>136721076
+She’s not really a self-insert, more of a cynical focus-group insert
+--- 136732024
+>>136716223 (OP)
+I can feel that episode where her mom nags her about a boyfriend really comes from the heart
+--- 136733349
+>>136716223 (OP)
+What race is this supposed to be?
+--- 136734062
+>>136731621
+>socially inept and obnoxious average looking autistic woman character
+>has constant sex with chads all the time
+Women huh
+--- 136735150
+>>136734062
+>has constant sex with chads all the time
+Reagan is seen having sex with 2 people in the show. I guess Rafe Masters is arguably a chad but he's also very clearly a sex addict so he'd probably fuck anyone, plus Reagan was very drunk. Ron is definetly not a Chad, guy is a massive weirdo loner. Notice how hard he clashed with actual chad Brett.
+--- 136735239
+>>136718225
+OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
+--- 136735282
+>>136735150
+Brett would fuck Reagan in a hearbeat if he wasn't so puppy coded towards her, she matched with Bryan easily, and while not a chad her ex Steve seemed like a stand-up high status guy
+
+If Reagan was a guy she wouldn't have felt human touch since high school
+--- 136735500
+>>136735282
+>Brett would fuck Reagan in a hearbeat if he wasn't so puppy coded towards her
+I disagree. Brett could very easily get any woman he wants pretty much but he seems pretty disinterested in having lots of sex in general. Feels like a guy who only wants to have sex if it's someone truly special that he doesn't have a platonic relationship with (like Reagan), this is what makes him a true chad. I think we only see Brett have sex two times (Debatably with Gigi in episode 2 and then Glenn's wife while in Glenn's body) and both times the woman basically forced themselves upon him.
+
+>she matched with Bryan easily
+Well, yeah he was her 99.99% match, and she still managed to somehow fuck it up.
+
+>If Reagan was a guy she wouldn't have felt human touch since high school
+That's just how the world is. Women in general have much higher standards then men. So even the more unattractive women (both appearance and personality wise) are bound to get some action unlike the more unattractive men.
+--- 136735581
+>>136716223 (OP)
+Never seen that show, but Shion is kinda hot.
+--- 136736912
+>>136716223 (OP)
+>She's even hotter IRL
+How is it possible ?!
+--- 136736998
+>>136717438
+I had already seen it once one week prior. Sorry, but my fucks only extend so far. Maybe write better jokes instead of relying on a hundred Pop culture commentary about Joe Rogan(like, what kinda inoffensive target is that even) and no mention of the jews in A SHOW ABOUT CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
+--- 136737053
+>>136729537
+He was boring as shit, though. Although for some reason all the surrounding characters got funnier around him.
+--- 136737849
+>>136716223 (OP)
+>movie with gravity falls ball licking
+:> i... uh Im NOT DOING ANYTHING!!
+So uh basically; you(you) will be like
+>ermeegeeerd im like a zoomier and i totally bout a ticket to seee the fucking um amimated movie at the fucking cinema, and klike i know the people who wptkef yhis worked on a DISNEY CARTOON. THAT WAS MIDDLES SCHOOL. AND BEEJ WAS SEXUALLY ACTIVE. AN DR PETERSRUCKMIN WREMERRHERFD
+--- 136738975
+>>136734062
+sounds like the typical adult comedy MC
+--- 136739559
+>>136716223 (OP)
+>Self inserts as a whore
+Why?
+--- 136740282
+>>136729396
+Live in the DC area and find the women who look like they haven't slept in weeks
+--- 136740330
+>>136739559
+Reagan's behavior is actually quite prudish when it comes to modern women
+--- 136740351
+>>136737849
+meds
+--- 136740510
+>>136717262
+this
+--- 136740577
+>>136719056
+>Season 1B
+cringe
+--- 136740614
+>>136721168
+Because she, unlike Luke, is designed for that.
+--- 136740856
+>>136718174
+Because it’s cringe
+--- 136740880
+>>136716223 (OP)
+>Made his self inset a narcissistic asshole
+Based Butch
+--- 136741011
+>>136740880
+--- 136741160
+>>136718174
+>Why is a 'self inset' a bad thing?
+It's not. It's like 99% of all fiction, since writers need at least some empathy with their characters and any decent writer has a point of view worth sharing.
+--- 136741450
+>>136718174
+Because it's inherently egotistical, and people tend to dislike that. It comes across that the creator thinks that they are an interesting enough person that others should care about them.
+--- 136743210
+>>136716223 (OP)
+If we're speaking of puppets let's bring the real deal
+--- 136743244
+>>136741450
+Wouldn’t you want people to think you’re interesting anon, you sound like you have confidence issues if you think it has to be something purely egotistical.

co/136717857.txt

@@ -138,3 +138,444 @@ As a white man with a brown wife I am glad that I can cnrl+F Axel and see result
 Why not just enjoy your brown wife?
 --- 136722762
 I still can't believe Totally Spies continues to this day.
+--- 136722982
+why do they wear skintight latex suits?
+--- 136723013
+>>136717857 (OP)
+>brown, short-haired tomboy
+alex 100%
+--- 136723033
+What's your opinion on the redesigns
+--- 136723175
+>>136722982
+look at miraculous ladybug the same reason..... they are French
+--- 136723204
+>>136717857 (OP)
+Tie between Alex and Clover. They are the ones who bring the most fun, Sam is too stuck up and sometimes even annoying.
+--- 136723275
+>>136723204
+You're a faggot.
+--- 136723291
+>>136720782
+--- 136723319
+>>136723291
+--- 136723336
+>>136723319
+--- 136723349
+>>136723336
+--- 136723362
+>>136723349
+--- 136723412
+>>136723275
+no u.
+--- 136723431
+>>136723349
+I miss the old days.
+--- 136723435
+>>136717857 (OP)
+Alex
+--- 136723456
+It’s impossible to pick a favorite because each of them got wrapped up in top notch fetish material
+--- 136723490
+>>136718205
+Looks like something straight outta Interstella5555
+--- 136723523
+>>136718742
+Sam is best girl. Anyone filtered by redheads needs to go
+--- 136723538
+I haven’t watch any of this (besides the occasional webm) since I was a kid and it was on CN. Does it hold up? Or is it best left a memory?
+--- 136723574
+>>136723538
+it wasnt really that good when it aired
+it was just for little girls and fap fodder
+--- 136723753
+>>136723538
+If you aren’t planning to beat your dick to the fetishes, it’s really nothing special
+--- 136723854
+>>136723175
+the french do not dress like this
+--- 136723864
+>>136723854
+no but the french are horny
+--- 136723869
+>>136723523
+>red coochie hair
+Keep her
+--- 136723973
+>>136723869
+Why are you gay?
+--- 136723996
+>>136723973
+There is nothing gay about that
+--- 136724022
+you, the viewer :)
+--- 136724214
+Why didn’t Jerry just give them all the gadgets every time? Yes, here are your 3 random items, good luck
+--- 136724437
+The fetish list said she has to pee one episode
+--- 136724666
+>>136717857 (OP)
+Made for Big Hispanic Cock only.
+--- 136724698
+>>136717857 (OP)
+Started out as a Sam man, but Clover's grown on me since I grew up. Something about a vapid mall girl with a heart of gold is just so appealing.
+--- 136724723
+Anyone got the Clover/Alex sunscreen gif?
+--- 136724964
+>>136723319
+
+Why wouldn't she just undo the straps on Sam rather than cutting through them?
+--- 136725001
+>>136717957
+T.mandy
+--- 136726290
+>>136717857 (OP)
+They're all perfect.
+--- 136726538
+>>136717857 (OP)
+I'm gonna have to go with Sam. The long hair is what does it for me.
+--- 136726594
+>>136717857 (OP)
+I know Alex is the fan favorite and I would agree with it otherwise but Clover was mine in this case. Mandy was top tier too. This clearly the issue of why not all four of them.
+--- 136726632
+>>136719178
+Episode name? That’s literally my fetish
+--- 136727803
+>>136718113
+Beautiful bodies
+--- 136727814
+>>136722982
+It makes them wet
+--- 136727891
+Post the nerdification one
+--- 136727893
+>>136726389
+>wearing heels on the beach
+Do women really?
+--- 136727964
+>>136727926
+THANK YOU
+--- 136727980
+The only episode I've rewatched is the Halloween one. It was pretty cool.
+--- 136728074
+>>136718742
+to be honest I never liked any of them, they just weren't my type back then
+--- 136728141
+>>136723362
+I would love to cum on her Alex's face.
+--- 136728365
+The terror twins
+--- 136728529
+>>136727926
+What's going on here?
+--- 136728602
+>>136728529
+I wouldn't worry about it.
+--- 136728622
+>>136728529
+Villain of the week designed a machine that can swap physical features with the goal of creating the perfect models.
+--- 136728671
+>>136728622
+Have this butch heard about FUCKING STYLISTS?
+--- 136728676
+>>136728529
+Nerdification
+--- 136729854
+>>136723973
+what can be straighter than smelling a womans coochie hair?
+
+Maybe in your case you would prefer a mans.
+--- 136731047
+>>136729854
+Fag
+--- 136731066
+>>136718486
+>I'm not falling for that a fifth time
+--- 136731109
+I miss this show. High octane action, decent plots, good animation, funny moments each episode, and cute girls. I wish there was something like it out there.
+--- 136731113
+>>136717857 (OP)
+depends, which one will strap on and bang me?
+--- 136731130
+>>136731109
+I miss the older seasons
+--- 136731148
+>>136717857 (OP)
+There is no "best girl"
+They're a full package.
+--- 136731150
+>>136728602
+To what purpose?
+--- 136731161
+>>136731148
+This.
+--- 136731210
+>>136731150
+Bad guy was born literally with two left feet. He became a host for a dance competition program so that he could find the perfect right foot to replace his with and become a top dancer.
+--- 136731238
+Alex and Clover are both GOAT. Sam is a stick in the mud with a stupid hairstyle though.
+--- 136731254
+>>136731238
+You already said that in this thread, schizo.
+--- 136731269
+>>136731254
+Why are you replying to yourself, schizo?
+--- 136731315
+>>136731109
+>>136731130
+The show really started to take a nosedive during the Canadian seasons. S3 was still pretty good besides getting familiar to the new voices. S4 had potential with the main villain group, but mostly felt like they were running out of ideas. Same with S5 and the transition to the college setting, which is where they initially ended the show. S6 literally has no reason to exist, and was probably only made because Marathon's other projects were flopping and wanted something safe. Dunno how S7 will turn out since most of Marathon's crew have moved on, with only Stephane Berry returning as the director after being absent form S6+Le Film.
+--- 136731371
+>>136719035
+>>136719060
+Did a school girl make a tentacle bot?
+--- 136731387
+>>136731269
+Kill yourself monkey.
+--- 136731403
+>>136731315
+I don't like the redesigns in S7. Looks so off.
+--- 136731469
+>>136731403
+Isn't really fair to judge yet, since we haven't even gotten a single shot the new season. They already did some tweaks to the initial redesigns like changing back Clover's hair.
+--- 136731495
+>>136717964
+Nigga, you have google and the artist name in the pic
+--- 136731510
+>>136717857 (OP)
+Alex generally
+
+Sam
+>Hottest but pretty bland otherwise
+>Smarter than thou bookfag
+>Constantly jobbing
+
+Clover
+>Pretty hot but bitchy
+>Fashionfag and boring
+>Slut who will ditch you the second another hunk catches her eye
+
+Alex
+>Cute and hot. Personally put here above Clover and below Sam
+>Fun and more interesting personality
+>Loves nerdy stuff like comics and vidya
+>Also into sports and is a sexy tomboy
+--- 136731512
+>>136717965
+Was his plan to get the girls in on constant porno plots?
+>>136717857 (OP)
+Alex. I want to fuck the brown tomboy ditz.
+--- 136731536
+>>136731469
+Idk. I'm just used to the older designs that looked more mature. These ones look more cutesy.
+--- 136731677
+>>136728529
+Banjo Kazooie game over
+--- 136731700
+>>136731536
+The S6 designs made them look younger despite them being adults at this point.
+--- 136731731
+>>136731700
+Yeah but atleast they still looked in line with previous seasons. But I didn't like them being deaged this much.
+--- 136731738
+>>136727926
+>White Alex
+Kek
+--- 136731808
+>>136731700
+almost ouh-able
+--- 136731861
+>>136717857 (OP)
+>>136718818
+>>136718840
+Mandy.
+--- 136731876
+>>136718842
+The last one in >>136731861 was for you.
+--- 136732131
+>>136731469
+Thank goodness!
+--- 136732212
+>>136731861
+Gross crotch bulge.
+--- 136732275
+>>136732212
+Gross in a hot way.
+--- 136732299
+Clover, always Clover.
+--- 136732416
+I like BBBB (Big Beautiful Brown Butts)
+--- 136732433
+There are two versions of this show floating around. One of them is slightly higher-pitched. Does anyone know which is correct? It's weird.
+--- 136732498
+>>136732416
+Same, BBBB* is great.
+*(Big Beautiful Blonde Butts)
+--- 136732877
+>>136731808
+Meaning?
+--- 136732989
+>>136723349
+>those shit-eating grins
+--- 136733010
+>>136723349
+Now those are two guys who fuckin love their job!
+--- 136733205
+>>136731469
+For Sam and Alex I like the right side a little bit better. But what they did to Clover is tragic.
+--- 136733208
+So obviously Mandy.
+Of those three dorks...Clover I guess.
+--- 136733313
+>>136733208
+JUST FUCK ALREADY!
+--- 136733325
+>>136733313
+--- 136733456
+>>136733313
+>Mandy starts teabagging Clover
+--- 136733468
+>>136732498
+She got a dick.
+--- 136733500
+>>136733468
+And I thought she couldn't get better.
+--- 136733571
+>>136733468
+>>136733500
+Mandy's still bigger.
+--- 136733914
+>>136717857 (OP)
+Sam.
+--- 136734492
+>>136731861
+Based
+--- 136735482
+>>136724437
+She seems eh here but cool they made that
+--- 136735488
+Why is Sam so susceptible to hypnosis?
+--- 136735618
+>>136735488
+She isn't but that is a major kink for her so when someone tries hypnosis on her she just plays along.
+--- 136735758
+>>136735681
+Doesn't that guy have a porn comic about Totally Spies?
+--- 136735943
+>>136718842
+This show did come out during peak whale tail fashion
+--- 136736384
+>>136717857 (OP)
+Sam my favorite, especially the Les Kassos version
+--- 136736526
+>>136719035
+>>136719060
+>>136719178
+Anyone suddenly really miss Zone?
+--- 136736556
+>>136731371
+You just know...
+--- 136736608
+>>136736526
+>really miss Zone?
+Yes.
+
+>suddenly
+No. It sucks when good hentai artists stop their craft.
+--- 136736944
+>>136731700
+I feel like they also got way shinier
+--- 136737306
+>>136736944
+That's because they did.
+--- 136737466
+>>136718742
+I like her and she probably gave me my mind control fetish.
+--- 136737704
+>>136726415
+>>136727888
+>Totally Spies in Taimanin Asagi universe
+--- 136737864
+>Clover gets all the physical fetishes
+>Sam gets all the mental/social fetishes
+>Alex is a grabbag
+
+No wonder I think clover is best girl
+--- 136737938
+>2000s show
+>Paris Hilton parody
+Why was everyone so obsessed with Paris Hilton?
+--- 136737999
+>>136727926
+If you had to use different /co/ females to make the nerd hot, who would you pick? 
+
+Pick two.
+--- 136738707
+>>136737938
+Famous for being famous that eventually turned into a psuedo-lolcow. Everyone loved her, but didn't love her.
+--- 136738804
+Sam totally best spy
+--- 136738843
+>>136737704
+I'm actually trying to commission this artist to do more
+--- 136739244
+>>136737938
+She was on the news a lot for doing dumb shit while being a high profile heiress.
+--- 136739887
+>>136738843
+Noice
+--- 136740432
+>>136726632
+S5 Ep2: Evil Roommate
+--- 136740461
+>>136718742
+I loved her, reminded me of my cousin
+--- 136740679
+>>136739887
+want anything specific? Positions, themes, an idea? 
+
+I was going to go, architect, and have them just fuck and eat the infamous 3600-calorie milkshake
+--- 136740735
+>>136740679
+Mandy and her Orc army leering at the captured Spaimanin.
+--- 136740844
+>>136740679
+>>136740735
+Is Mandy an orc, or does she just have an orc army?
+--- 136741049
+>>136740735
+>>136740844
+Is she Oboro or Ingrid in this scenario?
+--- 136741305
+>>136740735
+Does Mandy have a penis in this?
+--- 136741608
+>>136740679
+>an idea?
+The spies fighting their corrupted mothers that are dressed even sluttier than they are. Maybe dressed like Ingrid. That's the only thing I can think of right now. I know there's an episode where their moms get mind controlled to be evil too, but I can't find it at the moment.
+https://youtu.be/WjVTvfBp43g?t=253 [Embed]
+--- 136742886
+>>136741608
+that's like 6 characters to fully commission, ain't made of money but I'll keep that in mind since in Taimanin there's like 10 characters that are just echo fighters of the main 3
+--- 136743043
+>>136740679
+Jerry sends out the girls burn notices
+--- 136743096
+>>136726403
+>>136726389
+--- 136743174
+>>136733010
+Would you blame them?
+--- 136743593
+>>136743096
+>Clover dodging thick white liquids like this
+More unrealistic than the laser mirror webm.
+--- 136743667
+>>136740679
+Girls get sent back to prehistoric times and have to deal with both dinosaurs and a tribe of cavemen.
+--- 136743891
+>>136738843
+>>136740679
+Are you actually taking suggestions?
+--- 136744116
+>>136740679
+Maybe just Sam getting her arms, or a leg, pulled by someone, seemingly as if he was helping her stretch, bu actually to annoy her.

co/136720633.txt

@@ -44,3 +44,144 @@ Korra, supergirl, spide girl (mayday)
 --- 136722487
 >>136720633 (OP)
 Korra. But I like the fact she can take a beating and still pick herself up to kick some ass.
+--- 136723152
+>>136720870
+Simon Phoenix? Go log off.
+--- 136723164
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Luz :)
+--- 136723315
+>>136720870
+FPBP
+--- 136724122
+>>136720633 (OP)
+--- 136724421
+It's a good look on him
+--- 136724545
+>>136720633 (OP)
+It was extremely satisfying to see Loki get the shit beat out of him by the Hulk.
+--- 136725335
+Ivy Pepper
+--- 136725534
+>>136720633 (OP)
+I love seeing cute, joyful or crybabies characters suffering.
+--- 136725594
+>>136720987
+I think you have the wrong address, Twitter is thataway.
+--- 136725838
+>>136720987
+Humans love the macabre. Even kids sometimes want to step on ants for the fun of it
+--- 136726295
+>>136720987
+People who say things like this always end up on watchlists themselves, lmao
+--- 136727529
+>>136720987
+Projecting much?
+--- 136727549
+None. I don't have any fetishes since I don't suffer from mental illness or depression and I wasn't violated sexually during my important developmental years.
+--- 136727572
+>>136727549
+Congratulations on being a normie. How's your wife's son?
+--- 136727579
+>>136720633 (OP)
+--- 136728214
+>>136727549
+I honestly don't believe anyone can have 0 fetishes. There are definitely mental illness induced ones like inflation, diapers and vore (so basically the abstract ones), but I think even normies have preferences for things like teachers, women in high heels, sailors, firemen, basically stuff that has inherent connections to sexiness like being physically fit or showing masculinity/femininity. An obese anthro dog burping and shitting in his diaper isn't really any of those things, it's far gone from base human sexuality, it's not something universally understood. I'm not into firemen myself, but I know why tons of women are. Meanwhile many people not into it themselves would struggle to identify what's sexy about digesting a tiny person alive.
+--- 136728244
+>>136728214
+I like young, healthy looking women with beautiful bodies. Nice sized boobs but not too big. Round butt and nice hips are good too. Sometimes I like when they are naked. 
+
+That's my fetish.
+--- 136728845
+>>136727549
+If you claim to be like that, why are you here?
+--- 136728929
+>>136720633 (OP)
+but he's not /co/ related
+--- 136729247
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Bluey
+--- 136729505
+Star
+--- 136730914
+>>136720633 (OP)
+My obscure waifu.
+--- 136730956
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Average woman drawing fanart
+--- 136730957
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Nothing physical
+--- 136730990
+>>136722487
+Korra Ryona and yuri is the best thing about her
+--- 136731103
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Unironically none. There are characters I like, there are characters I enjoy seeing suffering, beaten, or worse, but they're two separate groups. I only enjoy torture porn for characters I truly hate.
+--- 136731250
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Im so glad tumblr artists made 90% of gen z effeminate losers.
+--- 136731258
+>136727579
+Ur not a rothschild sweaty take it easy
+--- 136732358
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Nia.
+--- 136734104
+Bump
+--- 136735203
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Usually not fun unless I can self insert into the subject
+--- 136735299
+When a character you don't give a shit about is hogging all the good suffering
+--- 136736074
+>>136735007
+Poor Katia :(
+--- 136737213
+>>136721049
+Imagine parroting this like it makes anyone look bad but you
+--- 136737995
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Suffering is its own reward
+--- 136739174
+Um, if I love a character I'd rather not see them get hurt. Thats for characters I HATE.
+--- 136742142
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Silver
+--- 136742221
+>>136727579
+Based Simonfag. His canonical suffering sucked though
+--- 136742288
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Males
+--- 136742991
+>>136734947
+The heck is all that white gooey looking thing
+--- 136743028
+>>136738956
+Billybob went too easy on her.
+--- 136743064
+>>136734947
+--- 136743113
+>>136720633 (OP)
+I don't *like* seeing Riko hurt, but it triggers all of my protection instincts.
+--- 136743125
+>>136737995
+That pink cry fatso deserves only pain
+--- 136743264
+>>136720633 (OP)
+--- 136743383
+>>136743064
+I love seeing lil things suffering like this
+--- 136743414
+>>136721881
+
+Sauce?
+--- 136743480
+>>136720633 (OP)
+I want to see him quivering in fear and tears coming out of his eyes. Its almost cathartic in a way.
+--- 136743547
+Unironically get a kick out of seeing the Chudjak get tortured. Thing is, im racist as well, just hate weak men
+--- 136744644
+>>136720633 (OP)
+Supergirl

co/136722429.txt

@@ -6,3 +6,318 @@ nothing topped this cute design.
 --- 136722837
 >>136722429 (OP)
 im gonna do it! im gonna pet this cat!
+--- 136724735
+>>136723118
+butte
+--- 136724792
+>>136722429 (OP)
+How do I even compete with a character design as cute as this?
+--- 136726475
+>>136723118
+Stop
+--- 136726749
+>>136726648
+Just wanna give them a nice squeeze
+--- 136727307
+>>136722429 (OP)
+somewhere in the world an underage girl looks exactly like this
+--- 136727377
+>>136722429 (OP)
+I'm gonna make some hedgehog stew today!
+--- 136727410
+>>136727307
+must be inbred
+--- 136729643
+>>136722663
+It's also surprisingly easy to mess up, >>136723118 barely even feels like Claire anymore.
+--- 136729696
+Lovely kitty
+--- 136729875
+>>136722429 (OP)
+>Design so good that it still gets regular fanart to this day based off of a single short
+>No series
+I'm not gonna lie, even though the short was very "early Adventure Time ripoff", I can't help but feel like the design alone could have made absolute bank in merchandise sales. It's a really fucking solid character design.
+--- 136729910
+it was a wood elf...
+--- 136730492
+>>136722429 (OP)
+If anyone is taking /r/: https://litter.catbox.moe/zg3q8v.png
+--- 136730530
+>>136729910
+Half woodelf/half kitty
+--- 136730671
+>>136730530
+What does the creator do these days?
+--- 136730744
+>>136730671
+Last I heard she was still trying to pitch the show
+--- 136730791
+>>136722429 (OP)
+who is "H!"
+--- 136730805
+>>136730671
+Apparently she is doing a new pilot of the show and I think she teaches art in Australia. Natasha Allegri directed the first pilot which is why it was such a terrible Bee and Puppycat clone with terrible voice acting. Hopefully Natasha is nowhere near the relaunched pilot of this.
+--- 136730865
+>>136729910
+Not possible, that's a cat
+--- 136730937
+>>136730744
+>>136730805
+Hasn't it been like ten years since the original pilot? Does the concept still work today?
+
+>which is why it was such a terrible Bee and Puppycat clone with terrible voice acting. 
+Thousands of fanarts disagree with you.
+--- 136731058
+>>136730937
+>Does the concept still work today?
+Why wouldn't it? It's just "witch in a fantasy world".
+>Thousands of fanarts disagree with you.
+The fanart comes from Claire's design, it rarely takes the actual short into account because it was just sort of mediocre.
+--- 136731236
+>>136730805
+>Apparently she is doing a new pilot of the show
+Good luck to her, hopefully it won't be so derivitive this time.
+--- 136731834
+>>136722429 (OP)
+Gee, It sure is boring around here.
+--- 136732844
+quick, give me your favorite Claire!
+--- 136732910
+>>136731236
+>Good luck to her, hopefully it won't be so derivitive this time.
+Blame Natasha Allegri for that. She turned an interesting fun and unique concept in to a snoozefest clone of Bee and Puppycat.
+>>136730937
+>Hasn't it been like ten years since the original pilot? Does the concept still work today?
+I would argue that with the rise of tik tok crystal witch girls, the concept works better today than ever
+>Thousands of fanarts disagree with you.
+The character design is iconic and what they love. Natasha Allegri took a fun concept and character design from the comic and turned it in to an oh so quirky sleep inducing pilot that does not resemble the original source material even slightly. It also had terrible bored sounding voice acting. The concept of Claire is so strong that people still love her despite the weaknesses of the pilot. In fact the concept of Claire is so strong that Frederator are redoing the pilot starring her hoping to get a show greenlit.
+--- 136733406
+>>136732910
+>from the comic and turned it in to an oh so quirky sleep inducing pilot that does not resemble the original source material even slightly.
+Claire had a comic?
+I...didn't know that at all!
+--- 136733448
+>>136733406
+me neither
+sources?
+--- 136733522
+>>136733448
+Elise Castro's instagram.
+
+Posting my favorite.
+--- 136733528
+I wonder what kind of feet she got...
+--- 136733549
+why doesn't the artist focus exclusively on the coomer factor? it's the only thing people like about this IP
+--- 136733563
+>>136733528
+This Castro art says human feet.
+--- 136733590
+Here is an Opposite version of Claire.
+
+https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/134088298/#134091863
+
+https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/134088298/#134114590
+--- 136733620
+>>136733522
+How old is this?
+--- 136733648
+>>136733563
+Dang i was hoping for cute kitty paws.
+--- 136733850
+>>136733590
+>opposite
+>has boobs
+--- 136733874
+>>136733620
+Three or four years I think.
+--- 136733926
+>>136733850
+I didn't realize she had boobs
+
+I didn't realize she had boobs
+
+Still, I like this opposite version of Claire better.
+
+that is good, positive, believe in god and angelic.
+--- 136734434
+>>136733549
+The artist sees Clair as a 12 year old girl and would probably be creeped out by the porn if she knew about it.
+--- 136734453
+>>136733926
+>angel of the morning
+Isn't that Lucifer?
+--- 136734485
+>>136734434
+>if she knew about it
+--- 136734510
+>>136734453
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_the_Morning
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLcVSOhdysM&pp=ygUdYW5nZWwgb2YgdGhlIG1vcm5pbmcgZGVhZHBvb2w%3D [Embed]
+--- 136734627
+>>136733926
+>I didn't realize she had boobs
+There's some serious upper-arm sandwich action in >>136733590
+--- 136734716
+>>136733850
+>>136733926
+>>136734627
+>Blaire has a sexier body but a pure heart
+I like it.
+--- 136734750
+>>136734716
+Thanks :3
+
+i love Blaire too
+--- 136734903
+>>136733522
+Anon, I hate to be the one to break you out of your Ten Minutes Hate delusion, but this is pretty close to the humor of the pilot.
+--- 136735363
+>>136730492
+gb2 deviantart, freak
+--- 136735366
+>>136734903
+The better part of the pilot, like the cleaning ghost gag (which originated in a comic by Castro). It doesn't have the meandering pace, everything-has-a-face-lol shitch, or the eating filth grossout humor.
+--- 136736646
+claire
+a
+cute
+--- 136738201
+>>136722429 (OP)
+>Oh boy~!
+But anon. That's a girl?
+--- 136738273
+136734221
+Thanks I didn't need to sleep tonight anyway.
+--- 136738829
+A ccuuttee!
+--- 136738976
+>>136734903
+>>136733522
+this can either be pretty amusing or extreme cringe, just depends on how they deliver on it
+--- 136738990
+>>136738829
+Nice drawing. Is it yours?
+--- 136739193
+>>136722429 (OP)
+I like the idea that some elf fucked a cat to make her
+--- 136739315
+>>136733874
+With the way >>136732910 worded it
+>>from the comic and turned it in to an oh so quirky sleep inducing pilot that does not resemble the original source material even slightly.
+I thought the pilot was based off of some long running comic that was about BEFORE the animation was made. You saying that comic is 3-4 years old means the creator made it after the pilot. So the pilot is not based off of comics, unless someone can prove otherwise.
+--- 136739318
+>>136732910
+>In fact the concept of Claire is so strong that Frederator are redoing the pilot starring her hoping to get a show greenlit.
+What? When did they say this?
+--- 136739635
+>>136739315
+The Instagram comics are from after the pilot; the first has a joke about the pilot not going well for her.
+
+But there are earlier comics in the original pitch bible (the one that say she's a 12-year-old elf); this includes the original version of the cleaning ghost joke.
+--- 136740207
+>>136739635
+>the first has a joke about the pilot not going well for her.
+Do you think it's because it's stuck in devolvement hell, or because it's got so much porn?
+--- 136740221
+>>136739193
+Based elf
+--- 136740931
+>>136740207
+I think Frederator wasn't able to make good on the idea of funding a full series of one of that group of pilots.
+--- 136740970
+Claire plus that bunny from the other pilot!
+--- 136741041
+>>136730805
+Australian voiced Claire soon then?
+--- 136741158
+>>136741041
+>Australian voiced Claire soon then?
+Anyone care to draw this, it'd be kino. Australian Claire saying something Australian.
+--- 136741415
+>>136741041
+I sincerely hope they recast all VAs and also get a new director with Natasha Allegri allowed nowhere near it.
+--- 136741621
+>>136739635
+can you collect all the instagram comics and share them please?
+--- 136742597
+>>136742578
+edgar you fat cat why are you so big and fat
+--- 136742706
+>>136740970
+>the other pilot
+Which is?
+--- 136743052
+>>136742912
+>underwear outlines
+--- 136743325
+>>136730530
+>half wood elf, half cat
+so what, was she created via magicks and potions and such or was some elf going around schtupping people's pets? Doubt it was the other way around, there can't be a cat with enough game to bag a wood elf gf... right?
+--- 136743375
+>>136742706
+isn't that the one with the rabbit girl and her magic practicing roommate, cast a spell on a bento box the rabbit girl was gonna give to her work crush who was a skeleton guy and the bento box turned into a monster?
+--- 136743436
+>>136741621
+I don't have all of them because I forgot to grab them. It's a pain in the ass downloading images from that website. I finally caved in an tried to make an account and it suspended it instantly and wouldn't say why and while I was trying to get it all to work Castro's page suddenly disapeared. Fuck it.
+--- 136743692
+Some of them are kinda boring.
+--- 136743743
+>>136733590
+Now draw her with a hijab
+--- 136743973
+>>136743436
+thats whats they do. they suspend them so you can reactivate it using your phone. you can use JDownloader to grab the whole account but to set it up is a pain in the butt, you have to transfer your cookies into JDownloader. I have had 5 or more instagram accounts suspended jsut cuz i forgot and used a VPN. they get really freaked out. but i recommend JDownloader anyway, yuo can grab twitter vids too and grab files from web sites.
+--- 136743983
+hmm I don't think she works as Death's apprentice, but I guess it gives her a job
+--- 136743992
+>>136743973
+Yeah it sounds like a scam to get more informaiton from me than they let on. I don't want to do it.
+--- 136744016
+>>136743983
+I don't think that's supposed to be a consistent thing. It was just an idea for a single comic.
+--- 136744018
+>>136743992
+im grabbing this whole thread's images right now with JDownloader. it saved with the original files names too. 
+ntptx
+--- 136744112
+>>136744047
+did she wind up wiping her ass and puss with bark?
+--- 136744155
+>>136744129
+Is Edgar her boyfriend or her slave/servant? She is a half cat and Edgar is full cat, so I'm confused.
+--- 136744158
+kino
+--- 136744162
+>>136744155
+He seems more like a little brother
+--- 136744211
+>>136744162
+>>136744181
+thanx for all those they are wonderful. she should just start making web comix and post them and do them and i bet people will begin to follow her. These are so wonderful, I will distribute them around the hubs.
+--- 136744260
+Oh boy, where to begin... So there's this girl named Claire who is really into ham. Like, really into ham. She can summon ham beasts out of thin air and apparently has some sort of ultimate ham attack that can defeat even the strongest of ham-loving foes. But then this guy from the Mushroom Kingdom shows up, also really into ham, and things start to get heated. Claire and her sister Anna battle it out with this guy, with ham and egg flying everywhere. Eventually, Claire defeats him with her ultimate ham attack, but we're not sure if he's actually dead or not. And then there's this whole thing where Claire is made up of many tiny Claires, which apparently means she has many hearts and therefore many loves for ham. And then, instead of bringing back her friend who turned to stone, she wishes for more ham. I mean, it seems like a happy ending, but you never know what could happen with all that ham around.
+--- 136744337
+I forgot to get any more after this one.
+--- 136744369
+>>136744337
+damn, damn. thanx for all of the others.
+--- 136744393
+>>136744337
+life aint fair.
+--- 136744501
+>>136722429 (OP)
+https://e-hentai.org/g/1433975/57b1d4810c/
+https://e-hentai.org/g/1168599/7316983f68/
+--- 136744538
+>>136744501
+That's the second document where she's a 14-year-old cat/elf hybrid
+--- 136744623
+Claire thread hardmode no lewds
+--- 136744641
+>>136744501
+nice, thank you!
+--- 136744663
+>>136744538
+I'd maybe an elf fell in love with a Tabaxi, or just got real lonely and fucked a cat.

co/136723528.txt

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+-----
+--- 136723528
+Death Battle returns May 22, season 10 to premiere with Atom (Ray Palmer) vs Ant-Man (Hank Pym). Sources to be used:
+http://ulltraguy.blogspot.com/2023/03/suggested-media-atom.html
+http://ulltraguy.blogspot.com/2023/03/suggested-media-ant-man.html
+--- 136723561
+>>136723528 (OP)
+THIS IS IT GODZILLA
+
+THE END OF YOUR FUTURE
+
+AAAAA
+--- 136723585
+>>136723561
+I TOLD YOU
+
+ITS
+
+NO 
+
+USE
+--- 136723669
+Alright boys, what do YOU think about Jamie and Ben's third best MU.
+--- 136723817
+>>136723669
+ehhh it's a pretty big stomp, i would put Jamie Reyes at continent level at best unless i'm wrong but it is pretty aesthetic
+--- 136723831
+Saiyans cap at small village level.
+--- 136723836
+>2 DB threads, both with identical listfag-posting
+well we're certainly off to a start
+
+I guess send me requests
+--- 136723882
+>>136723836
+thumbnail anon vs elementary school
+--- 136723980
+>>136723831
+>the Superpup must cope and tell himsef that blast is only small village level
+It’s LARGE village level.
+--- 136724036
+what does someone mean when they put a fictional character on a dimensional scaling? like i've heard people say that Jiren is 4D and then people put Simon the Digger on 11D, what exactly does it mean? is it just a more nerdy way of saying a character is multiversal/outerversal?
+--- 136724052
+>>136723980
+LOOK AT HIS FACE
+
+HAHAHAHA
+--- 136724087
+>>136723528 (OP)
+Why is he so badass?
+--- 136724150
+who wins? 
+Bill Cipher vs Anti Pops
+--- 136724229
+>>136723980
+Kek
+--- 136724268
+>>136724087
+>posting GODCHADLA 
+based.
+--- 136724285
+>>136724150
+>Guy who needed ten billion different asspulls just to enter our dimension and cause some chaos
+VS
+>Guy who cracks the universe and the very fabric of reality like an egg on the regular
+Anti-Pops would vaporize Bill. He couldn't even live through amnesia.
+--- 136724296
+>>136723882
+>"Kids, today I'm gonna teach you about reading and power scaling"
+>"Mr. Anon, Tommy's called me dumb when I said Superman could beat up Goku. Tell him I'm right"
+>"Haha, the truth is that,as you'll learn today, you're both wrong"
+--- 136724452
+zoro's sword scales to the plasmashooter. it has a trichiliocosm
+--- 136724506
+>>136724296
+way i see it, bruce lee said you have to watch out for those 6'3'' 220 pound white guys who can wrestle. that kung pow kundo won't do you much good against them. goku's one of those kung pow kundo martial artists with literally zero grappling, and he's probably well under 6' and 200 pounds
+--- 136724516
+I win. You lose. I'm happy. You're sad.
+--- 136724549
+>>136724452
+what does that even mean
+--- 136724585
+>>136724549
+>He doesn't know 
+You are a tourist.
+--- 136724601
+>>136724549
+>>136724585
+--- 136724607
+>>136724585
+i don't give an endangered species fuck about your peashooter meme. tell me about the tricholiocosm or trypticosm or whatever the FUCK IT IS OR DON'T REPLY TO MY POST
+--- 136724644
+>>136724607
+>I asked a question, and once given the answer I DESPERATE seek, I complained until the COW came home 
+Indecisive LITTLE rodent.
+--- 136724655
+>>136724644
+are you the cow, you greedy fucking cow? then why are you HOGging the answer, you object, you piece of meat? tell me what it means before i send you to the slaughterhouse, mootherfucker. how about that, PAWG? for fucks sake, you people. fuck you, i'm going back to the catalog
+--- 136724713
+>Xavier Renegade Angel is in this thread
+--- 136724716
+>>136724655
+I'm the cow, and you're the pig, the slampig!
+--- 136724824
+>>136723836
+The Marshmellow monster from ghostbusters vs Michelin Man
+--- 136724886
+>>136723836
+Yensid vs Saruman! and Spawn vs Genis-Vell would be nice IMO
+--- 136724904
+Times PvZ has been rebooted - 0
+
+Successful PvZ games where Peashooter isn't the main villian for shock value - 18
+
+Number of fags in all of PvZ - 1 and its purely a devs headcannon from the shitty third game that got canned
+
+Number of successful games - 5
+
+PvZ has given a unique spin on the tower defense genre and influenced many fans into prolonging the franchises legacy past its downfall
+
+times Peashooter has busted into someone's house and violated their privacy rights to stop someone from abusing their dumb wife that won't report her husband to the police, and the mere act of busting into their home like that will guarantee that the man gets away scot free from the law with a decent attorney - 0
+
+Times Peashooter has had to police the entire planet to fulfill some misguided hero complex and abuse his superhuman strength upon normal humans with no regard for the law instead of worrying about his own damn business and the safety of their close loved ones like a normal human would - 0
+
+Number of Zombies have vanquished by being heroic and either helping those in need or bashing them out of bricks like absolute badasses instead of just flying into the sun or getting some boost from a corny speech like a mary sue - too many to count
+
+PvZ games cancelled due to leftist propaganda = 0
+
+Times Peashooter got buttfucked in jail = 0
+
+times The Plants saved suburbia and quite possibly huamnity as a whole from being devoured by Zombies = too much to count
+
+Number of faggot sons Peashooter has = 0
+
+Times Peashooter has been a fucking commie = 0
+
+Times Peashooter planned a retarded invasion of Apokalipse, and brought his martian detective friend whose major weakness is fire into a hell planet = 0
+
+times Peashooter has had his ass handed to him to a charity case in a bat costume - 0
+
+PvZ's net worth is 750 million, Superman's is 40 million
+
+times Peashooter had to be made black to appeal to left wing millenials = 0
+--- 136724927
+>>136723836
+Melon-Pult vs Fat Albert
+--- 136724941
+They turned Darkseid into a mushroom.
+--- 136724952
+>>136724941
+i didn't know it had a mouth
+--- 136724968
+>>136724941
+N-N-N-N-No! It can't be! I have been bested! They have managed to capture my true power into a lowly fungus!
+AYIIIIIIIIE CHRISTOPHER DAVID BLAZING THE 3RD, YOUR BOTNIC INVENTIONS KNOW NO LIMIT!!!! I KNEEL!!!
+--- 136725004
+>>136724952
+How else is it supposed to wake up?
+--- 136725026
+https://youtu.be/Ozi9CLePDTI [Embed]
+Gohanbros...
+--- 136725174
+>>136724968
+now i'm imagining the doom shrooms being a part of latveria's flora
+--- 136726050
+Surprisingly, a significant portion of the best Smash fighters have already showed up in Death Battle, but there are still some left.
+--- 136726654
+>>136726050
+You think Kazuya would've fought Ryu instead of Jin had the episode been done today?
+--- 136726820
+>>136726654
+It was because Jin was also voiced by Kyle Herbert like Ryu.
+--- 136726861
+>>136726050
+This must be old. Bloom as of late has a better track record than Glutonny. There's even a young Luigi main that beats his Wario.
+--- 136727051
+>>136723836
+How about Judge Holden vs John Westly Hardin
+--- 136727769
+>>136723528 (OP)
+Is this a good match?
+--- 136728144
+>>136725174
+victor would definintely purchase a high quantity of doom shroom seed packets
+--- 136728266
+>>136723831
+This form is such a joke. What was Toyotaro thinking?
+--- 136728307
+>>136724585
+>>136724601
+We know about Plasma Peashooter. Why does Zoro scale to a character from a different franchise that he never met?
+--- 136729280
+>>136724087
+I named an entire theory after him. "Final Wars Syndrome" I call it. In which a character who beats up a bunch of featless jobbers is seen as a god amongst men
+--- 136729653
+>>136723836
+Bill Dickey (The Eltingville Club) vs Mort (Gunshow/ The Anime Club)
+--- 136729757
+Reminder that every character in the last thread still jobs to pennywise
+--- 136729807
+>>136729757
+HEY
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=793BQJJzqPU [Embed]
+--- 136729859
+>>136729757
+lol Pennywise sucks ass
+He would lose to this bitch
+>>136727769
+
+>Pennywise
+>never actually killed any kid 
+>isn't even real
+>only retards are scared of clowns 
+>jobs when no one is scared of him 
+
+>Letecia Stauch
+>actually cold blood killed a kid
+>doesn't even feel remorse
+>flipped the bird and laughed during trial
+>lied throhgh her teeth in front of the family
+--- 136730047
+>>136724941
+Looks like Black Manta is looking for a new shell.
+--- 136730118
+>>136724941
+Tyrant Baal did it first.
+--- 136730131
+>>136730047
+Kek
+--- 136730135
+>>136724941
+Funniest shit I've ever seen.
+--- 136730246
+>>136724824
+--- 136730256
+>>136729859
+>never actually killed any kid
+Pennywise kills a child in the first chapter of the book, you illiterate fuck
+--- 136730277
+>>136730256
+How if he isn't even real? Did any kid died while watching his movies?
+--- 136730289
+>>136724150
+Anti Pops stomps
+--- 136730334
+I guess people in Naruto have infinite speed because these waves reached another dimension.
+--- 136730348
+>>136724886
+--- 136730426
+>>136730348
+--- 136730512
+>>136724927
+--- 136730561
+>>136730512
+You really will do anything won't you
+--- 136730565
+>>136724087
+Is that the Sobe iguana?
+--- 136730590
+>>136724516
+Are you sure? Because you don't sound convincing
+--- 136730602
+>>136730561
+It's not nearly the worst request I've gotten. There are sometimes ones I'll just ignore tho
+--- 136730603
+>>136723836
+Chef and Chris Mclean with one million dollars vs the Dangan Ronpa class 78
+--- 136730648
+You know what a real threat is? A character from a series where everyone is on the same playing field in stats. So they scale to LITERALLY everyone
+--- 136730679
+>>136723836
+Mr Vain (Culture Beat, 1993) vs Mr Boombastic (Shaggy, 1995)
+--- 136730681
+>>136730648
+>>136730334
+--- 136730788
+>>136723836
+Gridman vs Justimon.
+--- 136730870
+>>136723836
+Bowser vs Aizen
+--- 136730887
+>>136724087
+This fucker is so goddamn over hyped. Wow, he scales to an appearance of Thor who can't even crush a normal building when using all his strength. Amazing.
+He completely runs off scaling that doesn't even make sense. He steps on Hulk and the fight is just over? Even though Hulk seems unharmed? What is it supposed to be a gag?
+Just about every other Godzilla has concrete feats that look better than what he has to offer.
+--- 136730936
+>>136730648
+That's pretty much Kinnikuman. And some of the early baseline feats include Canadianman pushing earth and Kinnikuman throwing a guy to the moon instantly. Both which were done at a point when the characters would have been considered weak before power creep.
+--- 136730998
+>>136723836
+Gomer Pyle vs Maxwell Q Klinger
+--- 136732248
+>>136730936
+How crazy does Kinnukuman get
+--- 136732561
+>>136727051
+--- 136732663
+>>136732248
+Aforementioned punching someone to the Moon, when in reality he was aiming to send the guy to Pluto
+Throwing entire trains like they're playing curling
+Time reversal via magnets
+Gravity defying human surfboards
+Undoing Existence Erasure
+Supplexing an evil God to Death
+And Satan wrestling.
+--- 136732759
+>>136729653
+--- 136732823
+>>136730887
+>is it supposed to be a gag?
+... Yes. It's pretty obviously a gag. But why don't you ever mention Heracles? In Marvel they went with the interpretation of him lifting the heavens. 
+All in all, it's worth mentioning that Thor (and the heroes at large) didn't want to fatally injure Godzilla. Thor wasn't godblasting his ass to smithereens
+--- 136732843
+>>136728144
+that's hilarious man. he just plants a bunch of them along latveria's borders?
+--- 136732919
+>>136730603
+I can't really fit them all in besides this
+--- 136733113
+>>136723836
+MOBY DICK VS THE KRAKEN AND KRAVEN THE HUNTER VS NOSFERATU ZODD
+--- 136733382
+>>136730887
+>He completely runs off scaling that doesn't even make sense
+This is literally the case for every Godzilla.
+"Wow he is le heckin omnimetaniggaversal because he blew up a black hole this size with his laser breath (that could only lift small rocks off the ground but don't mention that part)"
+If he's a giant monster than wrestles other giant monsters in a city, and every time they use an attack they at best slam eachother through a building, then they're building level. If his laserbreath were anything greater than building level then the entire city would be destroyed at once every time he used it.
+--- 136733399
+>>136732843
+id say he keeps them in his castle garden
+--- 136733505
+>>136723836
+Albedo vs Surge the Tenrec
+--- 136733523
+>>136723836
+Black Panther vs The Cotton Fields
+--- 136733658
+>>136733382
+And yet beings with mass well over 100 tonnes fly at faster-than-light speeds in the series. Necessarily, given distance and time. CHADzilla characters when held against real life physics are all infinite.
+--- 136733766
+Fun fact: Today is the day Action Comics # 1 was released. It was the very first appearance of  Superman! And another fun fact: Superman has no limits!! 
+--- 136733787
+>>136723836
+Dr. Psychobos vs The Brain (DC)
+--- 136733826
+>>136733766
+I too adore, revere and worship my overlord- i mean savior alienman!! My fellow humans, I love it when extraterrestrial idols thwart the gods of the earth and lecture me on humanity!!!
+--- 136734690
+>>136730602
+What was your worst request?
+--- 136734949
+DBC is live
+--- 136735184
+>>136734949
+No one cares here lol
+--- 136735281
+Liam's whole argument is no u
+--- 136735352
+>>136724036
+who knows? having more dimensions doesn't make you stronger
+--- 136735436
+>Swan brings up the dimensional snowflake that exists in the Bleed
+It's over Ben bros
+--- 136735514
+>>136724036
+Let's put it this way. 
+Imagine an infinite 1D object, a straight line that goes on forever and for the sake of argument is 2 inches in height. You as a 3D being can easily beat it by simply ripping it, it's only two inches high and has no depth.
+Next image an infinite 2D object, a piece of paper that goes on forever but it's still paper. Again as a 3D person you defeat it because it's just paper with height and width that goes on forever but no depth.
+Now say you become infinite 3D, you can grow to any size you want, you can have as much mass as you want. You're basically Juggernaut in all directions. Someone who is 4D would still beat you because they can simply go back in time to before you grew in power and kill you or simply stop you in time.
+Then along comes a 5D person who snaps his fingers and undoes the 4D person's time stop while also turning physics off.
+Dimensional tiering is effectively you do things that no matter how powerful someone a dimension below you gets you can't defeat.
+As for the specific example that was just hyperbole of an Angel saying 'Jiren surpasses Time' because he escaped from being frozen in time with raw power.
+--- 136735524
+Yooooo it's been a while huh?
+
+https://streamable.com/w4jxn5
+
+Season 10 trailer/promo!
+--- 136735527
+New Trailer
+--- 136735655
+>>136735514
+>You as a 3D being can easily beat it by simply ripping it
+with what energy?
+also any infinite line would collapse into a Black Hole
+--- 136735742
+>>136735655
+Basic kintetic energy. It's effectively an infinite piece of string. Unless it's made from the hardest metal in existence you should still be able to snap it between your fingers.
+--- 136735792
+well its up publicly now
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaBGVwvVBtg [Embed]
+
+see you guys soon!
+--- 136735816
+>>136735599
+well this is shit.
+How the fuck do you tell which letters are a capital I or a lowercase L
+--- 136735832
+>>136735742
+>It's effectively an infinite piece of string
+But it's infinitely large meaning that it has infinite potential energy too, and that can become into infinite kinetic energy. the string should slice through your fingers as it they were made of butter :o
+--- 136735854
+>>136735832
+it's only infinitely large going left to right. What do you think 1D is?
+--- 136735885
+>>136733382
+He bored through the planet once
+--- 136735950
+Anybody watched the Ben bs Blue Beetle?
+--- 136735952
+>>136735885
+If you mean blowing a hole to hollow earth, the very fact there is a hollow earth at all necessitates the earth's compostition be a lot weaker and less dense and different altogether than it is irl. That should've been obvious by the fact there are casually just tunnels leading down there all around the earth.
+--- 136736012
+>>136735599
+so far, II's key was UNLUCKY and it said Kill them all, and treat them violent. and V is "A dark reflection of the past" with code probably being carousel.
+--- 136736028
+>>136735792
+The ONLY thing I can get from this trailer so far is that there's gonna be a 2B episode.
+--- 136736045
+>>136724036
+It doesn't mean anything. People can't agree on what 4D even means.
+--- 136736046
+>>136736028
+And a Master Chief EP + maybe something Sandman related.
+--- 136736064
+>>136735854
+>it's only infinitely large going left to right
+so. Energy doesn't care how many other dimensions do you possess. It only requires 1 dimensional vector.
+a 8D being will always use energy the same way a 2D does but whoever has more energy wins. having more dimensions will not magically give you more energy.
+--- 136736141
+>>136736028
+>>136736046
+How'd you guys get that?
+--- 136736183
+>>136736141
+Both of those are me lol, and I just looked at the text and background. For the one Wiz shows up on, in the BG there's a sillouete of two characters, one of them piercing or kneeling in front of the other. The one getting "pierced" looks like 2B. In Boomsticks appearence, the text shows Master Chief. I'm wrong about the Sandman thing though, it's just an anthill.
+https://youtu.be/XaBGVwvVBtg?t=20 [Embed]
+https://youtu.be/XaBGVwvVBtg?t=21 [Embed]
+Just keep a close eye on the background for Wiz, and text for Boomstick.
+--- 136736202
+>>136735514
+You wouldn't even be able to interact with the 1D if you are 3D. It being a string means it has more dimensions than one. Your argument falls apart even if you say "for the sake of argument". Nor can you say a piece of paper is 2D because any sheet of paper with any diameter already isn't 2D. You're spreading misinformation.
+--- 136736288
+>>136736012
+Alright another one, III's key is Tree and it decodes to Beast without but not within
+--- 136736312
+>>136736288
+>and it decodes to Beast
+>Beast
+Could it be?
+--- 136736345
+>>136736312
+He's in, Gohanbro.
+--- 136736416
+New Therewolf track. (Luther Strode [Image Comics] vs Rick Taylor [Splatterhouse])
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k15BlRb6RuE [Embed]
+--- 136736445
+Superman= Multiple Galaxy level but not universal 
+Goku= Universal but not Multiversal 
+
+there problem solved!
+--- 136736463
+>>136736445
+Shut the fuck up listtroon.
+--- 136736552
+>>136736523
+The fuck does this all mean?
+--- 136736588
+>>136736523
+I see
+--- 136736594
+>>136736523
+>X people out but keep it silent
+I'm guessing this one is Dovakin vs Chosen Undead.
+>Kill them all and treat them violent
+I'm guessing this is a Doomguy reference, and given the fact that I saw Master Chief in the trailer it's either a bait and switch OR it's a Chief vs Doom rematch
+>Beast without but not within
+It has to be Gohan. Marvel Beast would be too on the nose.
+>A dark reflection of the past
+I actually don't know. Kira vs Cabbage Man maybe? He uses TV reflections in Persona if I remember correctly.
+--- 136736596
+>>136736523
+>>136736552
+I'm going to guess lines 3, 4, and 5 are the only ones with actual clues to future fights. Otherwise, speculate on the pictures I suppose. There's one that looks like an atom, so the next one clockwise has to do with water and the other with swords?
+--- 136736636
+>>136736523
+Think the key names are also hints or just the translations
+--- 136736644
+>>136736594
+from a booking standpoint, if Gohan comes in and fights a Kryptonian, I seriously doubt he would lose
+--- 136736649
+>>136736552
+Probably a tease for what the season finale will be.
+"The end will come from what begins" and "A dark reflection of the past" sounds like we're getting something redone from the first season. Which fits with the recycle symbol on the code
+--- 136736660
+>>136736523
+>>136736594
+Almost forgot
+>The end will come from what begins
+Beerus maybe. His whole thing is "before creation comes destruction"
+>>136736644
+I highly doubt they're gonna do Gohan vs Superboy or Conner. They already seemed tired of Goku vs Superman shit like seven or so years ago.
+--- 136736676
+>>136736660
+>>The end will come from what begins
+>Beerus maybe. His whole thing is "before creation comes destruction"
+Aslan vs Arceus lol
+--- 136736677
+>>136736594
+Chief v Doom Rematch sounds like the dumbest meme on earth with all of Doom Eternal’s wanking
+--- 136736708
+>>136736523
+>Beast without but not within
+This gotta be Gohan.
+--- 136736764
+>>136736660
+They already used Beerus and I doubt they'd bring him back. Besides, he's not the only one that applies to. Galactus's whole thing is destroying worlds so he can kickstart the next universe.
+--- 136736776
+>>136736660
+Who else is there? Assuming it's Gohan, Invincible seems like too obvious a stomp.
+--- 136736813
+>>136736445
+Goku is Low Multiversal in Super since SSG 
+
+Superman is at best solar system level consistently struggling with planetary stuff and nukes.
+
+>>136733766
+Not so fast
+--- 136736823
+>>136736764
+I didn't even consider that. What other characters fit into a "destroy to create" motif?
+>>136736776
+I've seen stuff about Gohan vs one of the Ultramen, and one of the Saints.
+--- 136736878
+>>136736523
+Gohan vs Conner SOVL incoming.
+--- 136736952
+>>136724036
+Short answer, fanfiction faggots treat power level as something "dimensional" when they don't even know what the word means.
+Long answer, It's supposed to mean that when a character is so strong they affect other dimensions around them/ can exist in another dimension while still staying in the current dimension. This is fucking retarded because "affecting" 3d while still being in 3d isn't affection another dimension, it's just affecting 3d. And if you somehow could be aware of another you in an alternate reality, you both would still be in 3d so nothing changed. The only time something "affect" another dimension is when it tries to change dimensions (1d>2d>3d>4d) And that's not how those faggots are using it.
+--- 136736963
+>>136736813
+Superman consistently beats Goku and Warrior of Light
+--- 136736996
+>>136736963
+>talking to the listBITCH
+Just let him die alone.
+--- 136737044
+>>136723528 (OP)
+>They're including Scott powers for Pym
+I thought they would. Weird it wasn't on the Ultraguy suggestions.
+
+Oh well. RIP Palmer. Fight will be a rare example of the defender winning.
+
+Poor Ben 10. Swank went full DIALS on the podcast with BB, probably to get it out of his system since Palmer is about to lose.
+
+>>136735436
+Swank didn't have to go that far. Goddamn. Did a Ben 10 fan take his boyfriend?
+
+>>136736660
+I think it's Galactus, given his origin.
+--- 136737129
+>>136735599
+those symbols are defininitly clues to future fights, and my gut is telling me that the star is definintly a jojo
+--- 136737138
+>>136736952
+None of them even realize lower dimensional universes contain more energy, baka.
+--- 136737155
+>>136737129
+Maybe, but may be not, because I think the symbols represent both fighters, not just one.
+--- 136737174
+So is this 2B? Never played Nier.
+--- 136737177
+>>136735436
+Oh yeah. That garbage.
+--- 136737196
+>>136737177
+>He can't handle the DIALS
+--- 136737219
+>>136737174
+Yep, that looks like 2B. And someone that looks like he's punching through her chest?
+--- 136737242
+>>136737196
+How many times was that bought up?
+--- 136737261
+>>136737242
+This is the first time anyone in DB mentioned it.
+--- 136737272
+>>136737261
+I mean in general. Like, one issue?
+--- 136737274
+>>136737155
+i'd have to disagree, the atom symbol between the crossed swords and wave is clearly for the atom but there is no ant symbol for ant man
+--- 136737282
+>>136737261
+In any semi-official capacity. There's a Discord screenshot where Tiki says if they calced it high end DC would never lose again.
+--- 136737309
+>>136737272
+The snowflake was plot point all throughout Planetary and tied to the century baby defense system.
+
+Casual.
+--- 136737312
+>>136737174
+The other person looks like they have white hair.
+
+So either they're doing Raiden again already even though he just had the sponsored fight last season, or they might be doing an in universe 9S vs 2B?
+
+What other white haired, cyborg/robo based, swordsperson could fit the bill?
+--- 136737330
+>>136737312
+2B can just fight Kosmos or Aigis instead of Raiden
+--- 136737332
+>>136735599
+>>136736523
+Well the whole code thing could be a nod to Bill VS Discord if they are also including fights we know about
+
+>x people out but keep it silent
+>guy with a suit in the circle
+Agent 47?
+
+>Melee
+>Pair of crossed swords and skull
+Guessing this represents Dovahkin VS CU
+
+>Science flask and atom
+Atom VS Ant
+
+>Kill them all and treat them violent
+>Pentagram
+Doomguy or SMT rep (Demifiend)
+
+>Beast without but not within
+Guessing Beasthan
+
+>The end will come from what begins
+Dunno would be hilarious if it was somehow Lord English since his whole schtick was ending the universe while being set at the start
+
+>A dark reflection of the past
+Long shot but I think it might be batkek. A dark reflection of a past fighter. Of course there are multiple options from this view
+
+>Season 10 is coming fast
+Another speedster match or general comment
+--- 136737355
+>>136737309
+Then why is the Bleed only 6-D?
+--- 136737359
+>>136737129
+The obvious ones are
+>Star = JoJo fight
+>Atom = Ant-Man/Atom fight
+The rest make no fucking sense. If the recycle symbol means Captain Planet's getting on the show though then that's a plus.
+>>136737174
+Pretty sure it is. So far the confirmed fights/characters are
+>Cole vs Alex
+>Bill vs Chaos Horse
+>Dovakin vs Chosen Undead
+>Ant-Man Vs Atom
+>2B
+>Master Chief
+>Gohan (questionable)
+I'm still trying to figure out who this old fucker is.
+--- 136737368
+>>136737332
+Wouldn't be Agent 47 since he was on the poll and lost.
+--- 136737379
+>>136736996
+>>136736963
+Cope.
+
+Superman gets atomized.
+--- 136737397
+>>136737174
+But who is the spiky haired person?
+--- 136737404
+The Beast is Cole
+--- 136737423
+>>136737404
+True, but it wouldn't make sense to make Colex a teaser when we already know that it's going to happen.
+--- 136737425
+>>136737174
+Wait a fucking second
+--- 136737431
+>>136734690
+Negroes vs Kikes, maybe >>136733523. There's a few others I might not remember, but there's been quite a few. Fetish stuff too, notably inflation.
+--- 136737457
+>>136737359
+the half filled in circle between the yinyang and scales could be deathstroke
+--- 136737493
+>>136737425
+Who would he come back to fight?
+--- 136737517
+>>136737425
+So wait, is it a KAKASHI episode or a fucking 2B episode?? The chick looks like 2B, but the guy is obviously doing Kakashi's pose here, and it's not like KakV2B is a wanted MU.
+--- 136737533
+>>136735792
+>>136736183
+there's also something in the We're coming back and The Latest, Greatest, and Complicated (I can't really tell, but the latter has blue eyes)
+--- 136737535
+>>136735599
+>Buddhist symbol
+Kakashi vs Gojo
+>Pentagram
+Doomguy vs Chief
+>Atom
+Ant-Man vs the Atom
+>Star
+Jojo fight
+>Death symbol
+Chosen Undead vs Dovahkiin
+>Recycle symbol
+Captain Planet
+--- 136737540
+>>136737493
+Satoru Gojo
+--- 136737578
+>>136737368
+Ah right. Any other notable assassins/spies? TF2 Spy was also on poll unless they just use one of em and pair against someone else.
+--- 136737591
+>>136737219
+No that Rin and Kakashi, he's stabbing through her heart
+--- 136737606
+>>136737423
+Doesn't seem to matter since Atom and Ant are implied on the image and the whole game could be a reference to the Gravity Falls key messages hidden around in episodes
+--- 136737613
+>>136737533
+It's fucking Gojo. I'd recognize that colouring from anywhere.
+--- 136737626
+>>136737613
+>Kakashi is gonna go 0-2
+Narutobros...
+--- 136737636
+>>136737591
+Wait if they're gonna use that scene, it can be Obito, and likely with Vader (just a rehash of Kakashi vs Kenobi desu)
+--- 136737638
+>>136737517
+I think the chick is Rin actually, so I think Kakashi is coming back. Although it could be Obito foreshadowing
+--- 136737656
+>>136737613
+wait pls no
+--- 136737657
+>>136737636
+Would fit the "dark reflection" one. Kakashi VS Obi Wan but Obito VS Vader now. Still a dumb fight
+--- 136737674
+>>136737613
+>>136737656
+Not as in I don't like Gojo, but as in Gojo vs Kakashi
+--- 136737722
+>>136735792
+>Piled TVs and Star
+Adachi VS Kira time?
+--- 136737728
+>>136737578
+Golgo 13
+--- 136737747
+>>136737591
+Oh, I stand corrected.
+--- 136737768
+>>136737613
+>>136737626
+>>136737656
+>>136737674
+Oh man, if Gojo is fighting Kakashi who the hell is Makima fighting? Are we actually getting Makima vs Bubblegum?
+--- 136737821
+>>136737768
+On the one hand, I'd say that I doubt it because I didn't see any signs of Makima or Bubblegum in the trailer. On the other hand, it WOULD make sense to split Maki and Gojo's MUs for the sake of more episodes.
+--- 136737830
+So would each image need to be paired or is it more "one picture teases one fighter in an individual fight"?
+--- 136737852
+>>136737821
+But that podcast episode got 100k fucking views. That's Superman vs Thor level. The actual episode would probably clear 1 million views in a day. Why the fuck did they pass it up?
+--- 136737854
+>>136737355
+>Still confuses spatial dimensions with "dimensions."
+
+How many spatial dimensions do you think are in hypertime, which is "only" 4D?
+--- 136737860
+Vergil > Sephiroth
+--- 136737919
+>>136737830
+I think it's the latter. Wouldn't make sense for them to give away all the fights, how many symbols are on their spooky little encrypted hint page anyways?
+--- 136737931
+>>136737919
+16
+--- 136737939
+>>136737768
+>>136737821
+>>136737852
+They could be showing a Kakshi feat for scaling, for now I'd say it just means we're getting a Naruto episode. Maybe I should finally watch JJK though.
+--- 136737969
+>>136737931
+Then it's definitely one symbol per character, since there's 16 fights this season. Only problem is that majority of them are completely non-fucking-sensical. What the hell does the one to the left of the question mark even mean.
+--- 136738033
+>>136737969
+It's a media player symbol that means "random"
+--- 136738042
+>>136735599
+the Black Star is David Bowie :v
+--- 136738046
+>>136737379
+Seeth, Warrior of Light is atom level compare to Superman
+--- 136738075
+>>136726050
+>Steve vs Terrarian
+>Diddy vs Coco Bandicoot
+>Joker vs Giorno
+>Lucina vs Ciri
+>Kazuya vs Iori
+>Pac-man vs Mr G&W
+>Olimar vs Chibi-Robo
+>Incinerorar vs Kintaro
+>Rosalina vs Palutena
+Rate 'em.
+--- 136738077
+>>136738042
+The black star is BlackStar
+--- 136738086
+>>136738033
+Huh, I wonder if that just represents the joke fight then. Out of all of the symbols there it seems to be the most unorthodox or well, random. Or it could just represent Bill's fight.
+--- 136738098
+>>136738077
+Black Star VS Naruto character?
+--- 136738286
+>>136738077
+Composite David Bowie vs. Blackstar. Terrible loss for Blackstar, but he shouldn't have tried to deal with the Goblin King.
+
+The old man has to be a kung-fu character, but I can't figure who. It's not Paimei, and I don't know of an Ip Man version who looked like that. And it's definitely a more modern character from the film quality. The only problem is I can't think of any modern movies that featured a chess scene.
+--- 136738342
+>>136737533
+>>136737613
+No I think's just Cole.
+>previous clip was Alex
+>next two clips were Bill and discord
+>>136737728
+Nice.
+--- 136738352
+>>136737854
+>He thinks this is what they mean
+--- 136738395
+>>136736183
+I did not see the Chief text, mind getting a screenshot? 
+
+If we are getting Chief, I would bet on Chief Samus.
+--- 136738495
+Fifty billion bees vs your asshole, who wins?
+--- 136738533
+>>136738495
+I prefer monochrome, actually
+--- 136738540
+>>136738495
+Does the asshole have prep time? Taco Bell could flip the mu.
+--- 136738542
+>>136735599
+>Random
+On some platforms that means "shuffle" so maybe Yu-Gi-Oh? Total guess though.
+>Question Mark
+Could be Cypher or Riddler, don't wanna bet either way just giving some ideas.
+>Dollar Sign
+At a total loss here. Instinct says someone rich but it could be a mercenary character as well, would appreciate some input.
+>Flower(?)
+Also at a total loss, no clue
+>Skull and Crossbones
+Pirates? Maybe we'll get Jack Sparrow 
+>Star
+JoJo, most likely Giorno. But Black Star is also an option.
+>Recycle 
+Captain Planet comes to mind but that feels too on the nose for me.
+>No fucking clue what that is
+Kinda looks like a uterus diagram? 
+>Half Filled Circle
+Sometimes used to represent a half moon either waxing or waning, Persona 3 springs to mind.
+>Yin and Yang
+Goro seems the obvious answer.
+>Man in Suit 
+
+>Pentagram
+Doomguy isn't a bad guess but I feel there's better ways to represent Doom, maybe Hellboy or some other occult character?
+>Beaker
+Cole vs Alex? Not certain what's around the beaker and I've only played Prototype
+>Swords
+Chosen Undead vs Dragonborn is my bet
+>Atom
+Duh
+>Wave
+Thats the same wave they use in Avatar isn't it? Aang vs BOTW Link is popular and Tears of the Kingdom drops the same month.
+--- 136738590
+>>136738542
+Fuck forgot to fill in my suit guess, I think I remember seeing that symbol used to represent anonymity or blending into a crowd, not sure who that fits.
+--- 136738595
+>>136738542
+>Skull and Crossbones
+Spinal vs Cervantes
+>No fucking clue what that is
+It is a scale, like the libra astrological sign
+>Wave
+That is definitely not the Avatar wave
+--- 136738611
+>>136735599
+>Man in Suit
+that's Anonymous :v
+--- 136738621
+>>136738595
+Fuck you’re right about the wave, no idea where I’ve seen that before then.
+--- 136738631
+>>136738590
+>Man in Suit 
+>represent anonymity or blending into a crowd
+>Dollar Sign
+>mercenary character 
+Agent 47 vs Golgo 13
+>>136737728
+--- 136738636
+>>136738395
+It's easier to see in video form.
+--- 136738641
+>>136735599
+is this polish?
+--- 136738658
+>>136735599
+question mark is riddler, beaker is rick, recycle is captain planet
+--- 136738700
+Honestly, after all the shit Ruby just went through maybe she DOES deserve the Maka W considering she's been taking L after L in-series
+--- 136738704
+>>136737728
+Much better than 47's actually popular matchups
+--- 136738758
+>Beaker
+Jimmy vs Dexter coming soon
+--- 136738776
+>>136738704
+It is a pity it is probably not going to happen, it would be so cool
+--- 136738781
+>>136738636
+I kinda see it? The greyscale makes it harder to make out. I hope it is chief since we should have gotten Chief vs Samus years ago.
+--- 136738863
+>>136738542
+>Pentagram
+It's time
+--- 136738972
+>>136738863
+Specter is going to make him kneel before the throne of the LORD thy God.
+--- 136739008
+>>136738972
+>That scrub who jobbed to Death Battle's biggest loser
+Just another god to be rejected
+--- 136739009
+New Yates track. (Denji [My Hero Academia] vs Isen [UnOrdinary])
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx5rOdxEeOo [Embed]
+--- 136739098
+>>136738863
+With any luck he'll finally fight Aiba
+>>136739008
+...Specter fought Goku?
+--- 136739215
+>>136738542
+The wave might be Sea of Thieves, since it looks similar to the style they use for the on-island paintings, but I can't imagine who or what they would use. Could also be a Kraken fight, with a tentacle coming from the water, not a wave.
+--- 136739220
+>>136739008
+When did he fight Goku?
+--- 136739227
+>>136739215
+Leviathan vs Kraken let's go
+--- 136739228
+>>136739220
+I just made that joke fuck you
+--- 136739283
+>>136739228
+>Cuckworld
+>Stealing content
+This is surprising?
+--- 136739302
+>>136739008
+I didn't know he fought Goku
+--- 136739340
+>>136735599
+Maybe the shuffle symbol is Billcord what with randomness and all
+--- 136739346
+Mostly shots in the dark.
+>>136735599
+>Cross bones
+Hopefully Spinal vs Cervantes, but it could a fight with Jack Sparrow.
+>recycle 
+Capt. Planet vs Toxic Crusader
+>scales 
+Either means justice or balance.
+>half blank circle 
+Makes me think of a half-moon
+>Wave
+Kyogre vs Chaos
+Also I have no clue what the symbol between the dollar sign and crossbones is.
+>>136736523
+>Melee - "X people out but keep it silent"
+Perhaps the X means "cross." So what it's saying is "cross people out, but keep it silent." This makes me think of an assassin, which lends more credence to 47 being in an episode, but as far as I know, 47 isn't known for melee skills.
+>Unlucky - "Kill them all and treat them violent"
+I'm at a total loss.
+>Tree - "Beast without but not within"
+I have my doubts about it being about Gohan. Is he really someone who is encapsulates being a beast on the outside but not within? Also what does Gohan have to do with trees? 
+>Pantheon - "the end will come from what begins"
+Odin/Thor vs Zeus
+>Carousel - "A dark reflection of the past"
+I want to say Freddy vs Pennywise, simply because of "Carousel."
+>Death Battle - "Season 10 is coming fast"
+Probably not a hint to anything, but it could be a speedster fight maybe one that doesn't involve DC nor Sonic
+--- 136739425
+>>136738972
+>Let's have this random unrelated DC matchup
+You do this shit all the time Otto
+--- 136739516
+>>136738542
+>Dollar Sign
+NO CHANCE THATS WHAT YOU GOT
+--- 136739555
+>>136739425
+>Unrelated
+Do SMTrannies really?
+--- 136739596
+>>136739425
+Specter is one of Demi's best MUs, that said it still sucks but Otto is in the right for once.
+--- 136739606
+>>136739516
+>Vince gets all the WWE scaling
+>Vince lost to Trump
+>Trump lost to Biden
+Sorry losers, guess you couldn't handle the Biden Blast
+--- 136739613
+>>136739516
+That is too based For Death Battle
+--- 136739653
+>>136739516
+Sounds more like Ted Dibiase.
+--- 136739659
+>>136739653
+I fear them ever touching wrestling again.
+--- 136739665
+>>136739606
+>Trump lost to Biden
+>doing this scaling seriously
+Biden cheated :v
+--- 136739718
+>>136739653
+> Some might cost a little. Some might cost a lot. But I'm the Million Dollar Man...and Lex you will be bought HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
+--- 136739771
+>>136739718
+Ted Dibiase somehow buying Lex out of Lexcorp is the funniest thing they could do
+--- 136739815
+>>136739771
+pro wrestling in capeshit is so baffling in its potential
+--- 136739888
+>>136739815
+I'm surprised they never did a Spawn vs Undertaker comic crossover
+--- 136739916
+>>136739815
+>Before Hal Jordan can enter the land of the dead, he has go one-on-one with Nekron's strongest Herald
+--- 136739944
+>>136726861
+What are those cut out holes in her leg area? Got a name? I noticed them for the first time in the Death Battle poster.
+--- 136740023
+>>136738636
+I'm not sure I see it. Speaking of that clip, any ideas on what the scene behind Boomstick could be?
+--- 136740026
+>>136739815
+>Wolverine and Lobo decide to go for round two 
+>*glass shatters*
+--- 136740078
+>>136739916
+>Undertaker beats Mordru in a buried alive match
+--- 136740085
+>>136739596
+Is it?
+--- 136740159
+>>136739815
+>The Tribal Chief Declaring war against Krakoa for proclaiming themselves the new Heads of the table
+--- 136740275
+>>136740023
+It looks like it's one of the fights. The guy on the right (the only one we can actually see) seems to have four arms? I can't fully make it out.
+--- 136740476
+>>136740275
+I thought the same thing, Goro or Machamp making a comeback?
+--- 136740689
+>>136723836
+Chud vs Saturnanon
+--- 136740884
+>>136740476
+Could also be Asura in his Asura form, or Ben as Four-Arms. Maybe doing Asura vs. Hulk, or Ben vs. Blue Beetle, or just Four-Arms vs. Machamp or Goro/Kintaro.
+--- 136741404
+>>136740884
+Don't know about Asura, I think anyone on the Champion's Ballot is out of the question for this season.
+--- 136742242
+>>136723836
+Zeorymer vs Genocyber
+--- 136742446
+>>136742242
+Otto. What is with you. You constantly harp on how capeshit rules but then bring up liking the worst genre fiction has to offer, (((Mecha)))
+--- 136742522
+Does Kira have Win Cons against funny cabbage man?
+--- 136742593
+>>136742522
+Get one of his instant kills to work before funny cabbage man beats his skull in
+--- 136742650
+>>136741404
+I imagine if the numbers were close on the votes they'd still do it. The point of the poll was to gauge popularity, so if something was basically existing on the poll but not really getting votes like Illidain vs. that Genshin guy, it'll be future if at all. Or they may do an alternate with one of the fighters, so instead of Asura vs. Kratos, you might get Kratos vs. Thor, or Asura vs. Hulk. That way they have the models and sprites for when they do the popular match.
+--- 136742660
+>>136742593
+Where did Persona scale in the last death battle episode? I skipped it because lol lmao Weiss
+--- 136742759
+>>136723836
+Trusty Patches the Unbreakable/Untethered Hyena/Spider vs Exdeath
+--- 136742954
+>>136739008
+Demi-fiend got his ass beated by THE imagine protagonist, to the point that he runned away.
+--- 136743185
+>>136742522
+Not really. At highest wank his two bombs still rank below mid game spells, Bites the Dust couldn’t help him here since he doesn’t remember the loop and Adachi either would and thus negate the stall or neither of them would and it would go on forever.
+--- 136743230
+>>136723836
+Jason Voorhees vs Rick Taylor
+--- 136743266
+>>136723836
+Saul Goodman vs MCU She-Hulk.
+--- 136743289
+>>136743185
+But who has the most bullshit, sure kill ability?
+--- 136743294
+>>136723561
+>bootleg Father-Son Kamehameha
+Goji shitstomps this faggot.
+--- 136743303
+>>136742522
+Punking him immediately with his stand's bomb tag ability. Problem is, Adachi has more range so Kira getting close enough to pull his bomb shenanigans wouldn't happen in most cases and even if he did, for all we know persona resistances can help deal with it.
+
+This just leaves Kira to put bomb traps and using the bubble cat which Adachi can easily deal with via just overwhelming force and siccing his persona and/or reaper on Kira's ass while he sits back and laughs at him. Kira sucks in a straight fight
+--- 136743368
+>>136743289
+Kira's kill move requires him to be very close and is sort of inconsistent .
+
+Adachi had Mudoon which he can do at range and has a 60% chance to auto fuck Kira or similarly Evil Smile to instill fear (Kira is a coward) and Ghastly Wail to auto kill.
+
+That or he could, y'know use Maziodyne and call it a day.
+--- 136743372
+>>136739346
+I'm pretty sure the "codewords" (tree, carousel, etc) were just words needed to unlock the cipher and have nothing to do with the actual matchups. There were prompts in the trailer such as "DvA 559" which meant the 559th word in the script for Deku VS Asta (in this case "melee") which was the codeword to unlock the decipher of that passage on the website thing.
+--- 136743407
+>>136740159
+>Dr. Doom tries to take over the world
+>I'M AN ASS MAN
+>DUN DUN
+>YES I'M AN ASS MAN
+--- 136743820
+>>136742660
+>Mitsuru's persona scales Naoto's persona's speed, Mach 7
+>Mitsuru survived a bridge sized explosion
+>>136743185
+>>136743368
+From what I can tell, I think Kira just needs to touch Adachi himself to instantly and completely blow him up.
+--- 136744136
+>>136743820
+Base Killer Queen allows him to put a bomb in whatever he touches. Sheer Heart Attack can be used at a far range and is heat seeking, so Kira doesn't need to direct it, but it can be tricked with other heat sources. Also, it's the equivalent of a regenerating grenade, so it's possible to dodge if you're quick enough, and tank if you're tough enough. Bites the Dust isn't a factor in a one on one fight, since it requires he pick someone to be the trigger, and if they reveal his identity, whoever learns it explodes and then events reset to an hour earlier. If he gets stray cat, he gets a rocket launcher or a slow moving trap he can set off by using Killer Queen with Stray Cat's air shots.
+
+The big thing is Kira is a regular guy with explosive powers. He's not shown to be super strong or fast, just smarter than the JoJo's (which isn't hugely impressive), and good at escaping. He got killed by an ambulance running him over, so he's not especially durable either. Adachi should be much faster, easily durable enough to tank his ranged attacks, and if he has reliable ranged damage he can pull an easy win out.
+--- 136744262
+in the same vein as some were speculating the recycle symbol i think the "shuffle" doesnt correlate to a specific character, but rather the idea of "shuffling" previously used characters in a new matchup, like bowser vs eggman or chief vs samus
+--- 136744528
+I DON'T WANT TO CHIEF DIE!!!!!!!!!!!

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+-----
+--- 136724306
+THIS IS NOT A DRILL
+New voifont comic
+https://m.tapas.io/episode/2823489
+I cant stay long but i am very pleased and excited B^DDDDD
+--- 136724355
+>>136724306 (OP)
+HOLY FUCK
+--- 136724382
+>>136724306 (OP)
+I'm sure he will delete it again and throw another autistic tantrum
+--- 136724480
+>>136724306 (OP)
+I don't like the new artstyle. I'll stick around for the story, but the art just isn't capturing that old distinct voihon look I originally liked.
+--- 136724507
+>>136724306 (OP)
+Cool, let's see which kind of dumpster fire it become
+--- 136724575
+>>136724306 (OP)
+--- 136724621
+>>136724306 (OP)
+Holy fuck, it is habbening for real
+--- 136724630
+>>136724306 (OP)
+Out of the loop. What's the deal with this comic and it's creator?
+--- 136724734
+>>136724630
+The creator made a comic that got a cult following here but he is generally hated by his fans since he constantly alters or deletes his work. His original comic Voihon went through multiple versions and even a spinoff before the creator just disappeared for months and deleted everything off his socials. Now the cycle continues again
+--- 136724786
+>>136724734
+How much of his old work is saved? Is most of it gone?
+--- 136724831
+>>136724734
+>Now the cycle continues again
+except this time he wants money
+--- 136724837
+>>136724831
+Ah yes 'cause i'm very interested in investing on vaporware.
+--- 136724853
+WHAT THE FUCK
+--- 136724862
+>>136724306 (OP)
+ROUND 5
+LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO
+--- 136724923
+>>136724831
+His Kofi was on Emeri as well. I cant say for certain if it was on Voihon but around mei'teff he wouldve got around to it.
+--- 136725021
+I am amazed, we're back on Mister Fonts wild ride. Since the impossible happened, I think its finally time for a very special game.. Teilys and Voiniks, it's time for VOIHON BINGO! I made this a while ago, and I'm happy that I can finally share it with everyone else. I don't like the new name, so I'm not changing it. 
+--- 136725296
+>>136724306 (OP)
+>https://discord.com/invite/59xyGXpbMz
+lads i'm feeling tempted to do a little trolling
+--- 136725304
+>>136725296
+If the fate of the original official Voihon discord is anything to go by, there won't be anyone active enough to troll in the first place.
+--- 136725325
+>>136724306 (OP)
+let's see how much it last
+--- 136725477
+>>136724306 (OP)
+Anyone wanna storytime this, because Tapas is sucking major dicks on local mobile?
+Also THE WHEEL OF FATE IS TURNING
+--- 136725488
+>>136725477
+Sure, just for you. It's short anyways.
+--- 136725497
+>>136725488
+--- 136725502
+>>136725497
+>No Towdi
+Gosh, this comics already doomed.
+--- 136725512
+>>136725502
+Little girls sleeping are the authors forte, it seems.
+--- 136725517
+>>136725512
+--- 136725526
+>>136725488
+Muchas gracias muchachos!
+--- 136725528
+>>136725517
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ay8mZ7ywE [Embed]
+--- 136725538
+>>136725528
+--- 136725549
+>>136725538
+This isn't Teff, it's Tiefen, totally new character guys.
+End
+--- 136725668
+>>136725549
+Inb4 Tiefen is Teff's mum
+Thanks again for the storytime, it's very appreciated.
+--- 136725702
+>>136724734
+Its like an alternate reality game with an unironic schizo-pedo russian artist.
+--- 136725987
+Did anyone save the previous comics?
+--- 136726225
+>>136725987
+Heres an archive. Its lasted the longest. https://mega.nz/folder/RmYlHCpT#sBm4xB1AgIfWmFLvRfmjnA
+>Captcha: N04W4P
+--- 136726631
+>>136725538
+Wow, she's really tall for a little girl
+--- 136726694
+>>136724306 (OP)
+Wow, I'm glad to see him back, but I really hope he doesn't abandon this like he did with every other project he's had so far. I also really really hope that he's made a backlog this time. There's no update schedule either, I wonder how long it'll be between updates...
+--- 136726934
+>>136726694
+I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in the fact that he must've done what I have not, namely a backlog. Otherwise what else would he have spent his artistic time on? Reasonably speaking.
+--- 136727229
+>>136726934
+I don't know about that. He didn't make a backlog between dropping MeinTeff and starting Emeri either, so it doesn't seem likely that he decided to do it here, unfortunately. Not unless he's learned his lesson, that is. 
+
+If those guys that dropped in a few threads ago were telling the truth, he was making joke videos for him and his friends, then there was that dropped collaboration discord that he was planning on using to help people he recruited to draw the comic, but from what was said that was canned and scrapped, it's unlikely that it's this comic he's released now. Honestly, I really do hope he found the willpower to work on a backlog, but it's not looking likely.
+--- 136727412
+>>136725296
+>another discord
+These threads are the only place ever worth discussng anything
+--- 136727487
+>>136727229
+In any case, we'll wait and see. (And get the archiving ready if this wild ride goes where we think its going)
+Been mulling about the option of a backlog myself, if i do one it'd mean dropping off the face of tapas for a long while. Benefits meaning i can tie up a serious chemistry career without also watering a tenuous "schedule"/casual internet artist career. An egg basket metaphor combined with a plant growing metaphor would be l appropriate here yet heavens to me i cant think of one.
+--- 136727491
+>>136725021
+Nice bingo, I have a feeling it'll be filled out soon.
+--- 136727933
+>>136726934
+Diddling kids and doing time in a russian prison.
+--- 136728130
+>>136724734
+I think "hated" is a strong word, nobody hates him. We're ANNOYED by these shenanigans, certainly.
+--- 136728154
+>>136727487
+I think it's possible to do both at the same time, but it requires a lot of planning and thinking ahead. For example, I'm assuming you're steadily chipping away at chapter 3 and you go from script > sketches/panel layout > lines > color, but the way to work ahead while actually working on it is to work on both in tandem, if that makes sense. Actually, I'm awful at explaining things so I put it in picture form. The jist of it is that while you're working on one thing, you're also working on the other at the same time page by page. This way you're getting more done within that space of time without having to completely take a break from updating for a billion years, since you don't already have a backlog made. I'm not sure how much longer this would make updates take though.
+
+Alternatively, you could do the thing where you release a page x amount of times a week after you finish a chapter so you have time to work on the next. That comes with its own problems though, like pacing (in real time). 
+
+Anyways, as long as you're not struggling with schoolwork and life balance by doing your comic the way you are now, there's no harm in continuing as you are, though you won't be getting a huge amount of eyes on your work quickly and may make people wait for updates for a while. However, as long as you're making the comic because you have a story to tell and you enjoy making it at all in the first place is the most important thing.
+--- 136728492
+>>136727487
+>>136728154
+Actually, I should mention this. The need for a backlog is more for if you're doing weekly updates so you're not constantly burning yourself out in trying to reach a quota. If you're not doing weekly updates or really have any sort of update schedule, you can really be a lot more lax about your workflow. A backlog is just be more for your benefit to work ahead so you don't have to worry about losing the flow of things if you end up getting sick/go on vacation/irl obligations. 
+
+The problem that Voifont got into was that he was releasing his comics on a weekly schedule with multiple pages, it was just way too brutal a pace for him not to burn out with. Considering he hasn't made an announcement on the schedule, he might be doing something similar to what I mentioned or he's planning on releasing chapters slowly, though that'll make it harder for him to make money quickly.
+--- 136730159
+>>136728154
+Interesting workflow, I'll see what I can adapt from it. My workflow right now is very linear so this could help both avoid burnout and become the ultimate triskelion. Somewhat unrelated, I'm getting a kitchen timer for my birthday because I've heard good things about the pomodoro technique and will look to adapt it to as many things as possible.
+Zodyak suffers so Chemistry doesnt have to. Disaster lies in the opposite dynamic. No quota means no problem and i will thank you with many blessings for helping me realise that.
+--- 136730680
+The cunny comic
+--- 136730748
+>>136725517
+asking the important questions
+--- 136731299
+I bet he's going to take half a year to update again and post absolutely nothing else if he really didn't spend all this time making a backlog, despite this looking like it was just pissed out (which I assumed he did). He really just cannot let Voihon go, why even include this Teff knockoff instead of a new character all together? The half-assed title change doesn't help either, it's like he knows the only people who would notice are the ~10 people left who even care about what he's up to.
+>>136724480
+It's quite haphazard on his end, it looks like the most work was put into all the textures and shading rather than the drawings themselves. It's pretty sad that he's still trying to shill his ko-fi despite his bad reputation as well as having absolutely nothing to show for it since he deleted his entire gallery. Why would anyone toss some coins at him when he's making low effort stuff like Emeri and now this, when his previous work would've raked in way more cash because it looked better and people were much more invested in it?
+--- 136731306
+>>136725517
+>excuse me ma'am are you a femboy perchance?
+--- 136732440
+>>136731299
+>why even include this Teff knockoff instead of a new character all together?
+let's be honest, even if he put up a brand new character, we'd call it a Teff knockoff anyway
+--- 136732546
+>>136732440
+Speak for yourself. If he actually made the effort to make the character look and act different instead of picking and choosing previous specific design elements and slightly changing them then no, I don't think so. He did the same thing with this Teff-expy in Emeri.
+--- 136732606
+>>136724306 (OP)
+The grass is Greener on the other side
+--- 136732668
+>>136732606
+Oh this is so good, I love how you gave them all different outfits.
+--- 136732969
+>>136725021
+row 3, one more for bingo
+--- 136733716
+>>136727491
+>>136732969
+Glad you guys had fun with it, for some reason I forgot that I made a blank version- so anyone can make their own and for whomever had better bingo square ideas to share.
+--- 136734197
+>>136733716
+Heres my crack at a bingo card
+--- 136734741
+I'm new to all this voihon/veibon stuff, I've read through the archives and now this new comic. This is my observation so far:
+
+Voihon
+>black line art, monotone colors
+>broken texture sprites
+>uncanny character designs
+>unsettling atmosphere
+>awkward, preechy dialogue
+>half the page filled with black text walls
+>nonexistent paneling and pacing
+
+Veibon
+>colorful
+>seemless textures
+>cute art style
+>cozy atmosphere
+>fun, entertaining dialogue
+>decent speech bubble to panel ratio
+>smooth paneling and pacing
+
+>>136724480
+>>136731299
+>voihon better
+how?
+--- 136734773
+>>136734741
+Oh I’m sure you’re a absolute stranger to this series, huh voifont?
+--- 136734889
+>>136734773
+>anon is complimenting the author, it must be the author!
+--- 136735078
+>>136724306 (OP)
+>another fucking reboot
+Oh well... let's see how long this will last...
+--- 136735161
+>>136734889
+I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, to keep it short all the supposed “cons” that you mentioned for Voihon are exactly why it stood out and why I personally liked it a lot. I have no idea where you even got any of what you said for Veibon, how is it even “cozy”? It’s only 6 short, teeny pages. The green lads are funny but it’s too early to say anything else.
+>cute art style
+Sure.. but it’s super lazy.
+--- 136735242
+>>136734889
+You are either baiting or Voifont itself. This shit is literally a bunch of stick figures.
+--- 136735565
+>>136735078
+We gotta start placing bets, I say he MIGHT do some more updates for 2-3 months at best but not put the slightest effort into consistency or posting art whatsoever, and then disappear into the ether before having another silent tantrum and wiping everything because he didn’t get 10 billion dollars on his PayPal for doing less than the bare minimum.
+--- 136736341
+>>136735565
+I give it 6 months until his backlog runs out and he decides to just not continue the comic then delete it all after a bit of inactivity
+--- 136736755
+>>136725325
+Meanwhile I’m Patrick, still mourning the original.
+--- 136738064
+>>136724306 (OP)
+Wut
+--- 136738448
+>>136725502
+I like how every page of this comic comes with its own reaction image
+--- 136738524
+>>136738448
+It’s was way funnier than the entirety of Emeri, I give it that. I have no idea why he tried to make a wet fart of a comic where he couldn’t even do gag logic correctly, this direction reminds me of SillyStory and it’ll be much better for it for it’s 4 month lifespan atleast.
+--- 136738802
+>>136732440
+looooooooooooooooong Teff
+--- 136738900
+>>136724831
+I will pay him when he makes it into a game
+--- 136738958
+>>136724306 (OP)
+Did some female fan confess her love to him over the internet and assault him in his house, breaking his door down and forcefully marrying him? I thought he said he stopped with the comic because "nobody understands my vision the way I want them to see it exactly through my autistic 1111:1111 lens"
+--- 136739006
+>>136725021
+We should get the author into Kaiba(the anime) that would be funny as shit. Maybe Saban's Pinnochio and other eastern tales to make him even more nihilistic and depressive. Make him read the Little Match Girl again and again and again.
+--- 136739057
+>>136734741
+Did the author finally have sex with a traditional qt 3.14 blonde girl that suddenly he sees everything in pink and wants to be more pink? become the pink glasses, 'anon'.
+--- 136739391
+I can't believe the tall Teff fanart became a reality
+--- 136739454
+>>136725512
+"Little" girl my ass
+--- 136739466
+>>136734741
+>Old version is bad because of the qualities that made it unique that I personally don't like 
+>New version is good because I say so even though it literally just started with a measly amount of pages
+Very insightful observations there.
+--- 136739577
+Is long Teff just Blue in drag
+--- 136740526
+>>136739577
+Ah, you're in the comic!
+>>136730748
+--- 136740563
+>>136734197
+Technically, those MEGAs weren't removed of their own violition. They were all reported by Voifont and that's why they were automatically taken down
+
+>>136739577
+Yes, I bet it's him inhabiting her body until it's time to officially wake Teff up
+--- 136741279
+>>136738802
+>>136739391
+>>136739454
+>long teff
+i think he's trying to draw with more realistic proportions
+--- 136741391
+>>136741279
+HEY WHAT ARE YOU DOING
+--- 136741792
+>>136739577
+--- 136741797
+>>136741279
+> Those toothpick legs
+> Realistic
+--- 136742694
+>>136741792
+kek
+--- 136742730
+>>136734889
+Veibon website
+--- 136742807
+>>136732606
+getting some MSPA vibes from these
+
+can voifont pull off a comedy comic?
+--- 136742899
+>>136734741
+>fun, entertaining dialogue
+too early to tell
+>decent speech bubble to panel ratio
+meh. previous wasn't bad. Any such ratio depends on the artstyle used.
+>smooth panelling
+generic paneling.
+
+I am expecting voihon, so my interests are smirched - but if this is completely different, I could see it standing on it's own if it finds it's own voice. Designs feel somewhat psychedelic.
+
+YOU'VE BEEN DOING DRUGS, VOIFONT?
+--- 136742946
+>>136724306 (OP)
+No
+He has played with my heart too many times
+I'm done
+Goodbye Mr bones 
+Get someone competent to write the bare bones structure of the story and some of the minor shit and admit to yourself that you are a good artist and can come up with great pages but you aren't capable of actually writing a story
+--- 136743032
+>>136724734
+What about the shorts?
+--- 136743094
+>>136728130
+No, fuck you I'm pissed
+This is like winds of winter except Marti doesnt Keep releasing chapters then deleting them 
+I have been waiting for a real comic from day one
+No, you aren't getting any money. Not after that shit
+--- 136743197
+>>136726225
+I'm buying a whole carton of cigarettes, I'm smoking one for each page then I'm downing half a bottle of vodka in one go
+I want to recreate the feeling I got the last time he killed the comic
+--- 136743242
+>>136728154
+One page ahead isn't enough
+You should always keep a whole chapter just in case
+If you can't manage that then write a little spinoff chapter you can insert at any point if you are unable to update
+--- 136743287
+>>136735078
+Seeing the reaction it's getting my bet is just this page
+--- 136743321
+>>136741792
+lel, nice drawing
+
+Well, what say you? Vote TODAY.
+https://strawpoll.com/polls/kjn18wW17yQ
+--- 136743629
+>>136732440
+--- 136743715
+>>136743287
+I hope not. Nobody has said anything against the comic that isn't more than how it seems lazy compared to previous versions, which has been a complaint since the very first reboot. It hasn't stopped anyone here from drawing art and storywise there's not much to talk about yet.
+
+As of now, the main complaint is against the author and even then it's all about how they hope that he doesn't stop updating again like he did the last 4 times, so giving up immediately after seeing everyone complain about exactly that would be funny but bad

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+-----
+--- 136724893
+Why was the villain so forgettable in Doctor Strange? Great movie as well. But I always forget Mads Mikkelsen was even in it
+
+What a waste of a character. Zero depth
+--- 136725063
+>>136724893 (OP)
+because he is not the true villain, it is Dormammu
+--- 136725092
+unlike Batman, MCU are about the main characters, not the villains.
+--- 136725115
+>NOOOO THIS VILLAIN WAS FORGETTABLE!!1
+lmao why do you capecucks always use this as a cope whenever a good actor shows up for one of these shitty fucking movies strictly for a paycheck then fucks off? are you that fucking sensitive about your super special movie franchise that you can't stand actors just using it as a way to get a lot of cash and not do a lot of work?
+--- 136725163
+>>136724893 (OP)
+Because creating a good villain is a lost art for Hollywood.
+--- 136725206
+>wojackshit picture
+>retarded post
+Always the same thing. Maybe we need mandatory euthanasia for wojacktards.
+--- 136725586
+How was it a great movie? It was just Iron Man 1 reskinned
+
+Didn't even have interesting uses of magic, but yeah the villain sucked dick I don't even know his name....most MCU villains suck dick. You know what's funny? People always talk about TDKT being too "grounded and realistic" and yet those movies wouldn't stoop to the level of having a villain with no visual distinction, even Bane who was just a normal guy with no enhancements, they still found a way to work in a mask. Baron Zemo? More like Baron Sucko.
+--- 136725793
+>>136725092
+Main characters get multiple films to develop, often times villains are one and done, which is why they need to be written more broadly and given more color to stand out. Villains are also the main driving force of conflict, so having them be fun to watch is important.
+--- 136725846
+Besides Thanos, hasn't pretty much every MCU villain straight up died in their first appearance?
+--- 136726769
+>>136725793
+Two things known for villains, superhero stories and disney movies, have been robbed of good villains in modern media, very strange, I'm sure it has something to do with how gay culture is now but I'm not sure what
+--- 136727161
+>>136726769
+You forget horror movies.
+--- 136729852
+>>136725793
+>Main characters get multiple films to develop, often times villains are one and done
+It shouldn't take more than one movie to develop a character.
+--- 136730276
+>>136725846
+Abomination
+Yon Rogg
+Vulture
+Yellowjacket
+Loki
+Kingpen
+Dormammu 
+Namor 
+Agatha
+Laufey 
+Zemo 
+Kang/Victor Timely
+--- 136730395
+>>136724893 (OP)
+You could say that about a lot of MCU villains.
+--- 136730920
+>>136724893 (OP)
+>Great movie 
+It blew its load in the first 5 minutes and never recaptured the mystery
+--- 136730921
+>>136724893 (OP)
+For some reason they wanted to make Mordo DEEP instead of doing it right, so they ended up with just some rando.
+--- 136732695
+>>136725115
+Who are you quoting?
+--- 136732741
+>>136724893 (OP)
+Why was the magic in the first movie just inception effects and a glowy rope?
+--- 136732756
+>>136729852
+There’s this thing in writing called a character arc, which is essentially a period of personal growth that follows the hero through a story. Depending on the length of an individual story, characters can go through several which each compliment the specific narrative. This may cause a character to develop over multiple movies, even if in each individual movie they appear complete.
+--- 136732768
+>>136724893 (OP)
+Derrickson is a boring director, for all it's faults Raimi's MoM felt more like a proper DS adaptation
+--- 136732938
+>>136725163
+What does Hollywood have to do with Marvel studios?
+--- 136732995
+>>136725115
+T. Christopher Eccleston
+--- 136733418
+>>136732938
+Same breed of pedojews
+--- 136733436
+>>136725115
+>why do you want good movies?
+--- 136733547
+>>136732995
+Wasn't Eccleston actually very salty because they butchered his character's backstory and made Malekith one-not to avoid Odin being morally questionable?
+--- 136733573
+>>136733547
+*one-note
+--- 136733603
+>>136733547
+Thats funny considering what Ragnarok did
+--- 136733696
+>>136724893 (OP)
+Because most of the villains in the MCU have had their backstory or character arcs cut for either the sake of runtime or for fear of ending up with another Loki situation (which means they keep the expensive celebrity forever).
+
+Kaecillius was originally going to have a tragic past, motivated to kill the Ancient One and work for Dormammu/use the Time Stone (in early drafts) because of the death of his family. He joined the Ancient One who promised him he could save them, then she went "nah". Hence why the movie revolves around time as a motif, both the hero and villain want to undo their past mistakes: Strange and the loss of his sister plus his ego resulting in his accident, and Kaecillius working for the AO and losing more time spent with his family.
+--- 136734828
+>>136733696
+They got as far as filming some scenes with him talking about his motivation that were pretty good, but they cut most of that shit out for the theatrical release because the fucking running theme of most of Marvel movies is to make sure your audience isn't thinking too much.
+--- 136734992
+>>136734828
+It wouldn't have saved him from being a shit villain. They should have used Mordo with the campy green outfit and more general dr strange zaniness that only came up on the dormammu scene which was the only memorable scene in this movie
+--- 136736894
+>>136727161
+Megan was pretty good, not a great movie but a good horror character
+--- 136737349
+>>136725092
+Villains are characters too anon
+--- 136737862
+>>136734992
+Ancient One's death was kino.
+--- 136737881
+>>136724893 (OP)
+It's an MCU origin movie, they had it down to a formula by then. A lot of the MCU origin movies from Iron Man 1 onwards make the choice to use a villain that isn't more interesting or developed than the hero, so as not to overshadow him, and to just set up the hero's archenemy for a later movie.
+--- 136739886
+>>136724893 (OP)
+Mads should've been Doom
+--- 136739955
+>>136725115
+I remember that a friend called Let There Be Carnage "the gayest fucking thing the MCU made."
+Never watched, can someone give me a rundown?
+--- 136739987
+>>136724893 (OP)
+
+was/am really hoping they bring him back as Dormammu. just a waste of a great actor
+--- 136741737
+>>136732756
+Yeah, it's a good thing there were 4 sequels to Groundhog Day or we never would have been able to appreciate Bill Murray's character growth.
+--- 136741846
+>>136725115
+>muh rotten tomatoes
+>seriously pretending professional reviewers are reliable and valid
+Wake up, anon. They're bought and paid for. Ignore them. Being a professional critic shouldn't even be a real job.
+--- 136741923
+>>136724893 (OP)
+Hoping they bring him back as Dormmamu using his body or some shit
+--- 136742500
+>>136734828
+To be fair, I can see why it was cut. It would have just distracted from the story that the rest of the film is telling. There is already enough reason presented in the film for Kaecillius to go rogue considering he sees the ancient one as being hypocritical and using magic that she has forbidden to everyone else and has gained power and near immortality by doing so. He doesn't NEED a tragic backstory that doesn't get resolved or change his arc in any meaningful way.
+--- 136744012
+>>136724893 (OP)
+This was the MCU's shit villain phase

co/136725558.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,368 @@
+-----
+--- 136725558
+>people call him a lex luthor
+>people call him a joker
+and yet unlike both of them, he's a physical threat who has super powers, making him a different kind of foe to his hero
+--- 136725606
+Mediocre character. Mediocre villain. Mediocre motives. Mediocre name. 
+
+Why is GG so meh?, So mediocre even miles is a bettee arch-nemesis to peter...
+--- 136725674
+>>136725606
+...what?
+--- 136725678
+>>136725606
+he is the best villain of spider-man
+--- 136725683
+>>136725674
+Pull my finger.
+--- 136725685
+>>136725606
+--- 136725689
+>>136725678
+Objectively false.
+--- 136725700
+Shocker is Spider-Man's best villain.
+--- 136725723
+>>136725689
+name one better
+--- 136725724
+>>136725678
+>>136725689
+Depends on what you're looking for in a villain desu.
+--- 136725734
+>>136725558 (OP)
+He's just some green gay fag.
+--- 136725735
+>>136725723
+Doc Ock
+--- 136725737
+>>136725558 (OP)
+So they went with a popular template conductive of interesting characterization and problem-solving for the hero but they also made it possible to solve the problem by punching it if the deadline was too close. Got it.
+--- 136725752
+>>136725723
+Mister negative.
+--- 136725808
+>>136725752
+NOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK NOOOOOO
+
+>>136725735
+elton john looking fat tits bitch ain't shit and shouldn't even realistically be a threat to spider-man
+--- 136725844
+>>136725808
+Doc Ock has better range as a character but he deserves a power upgrade.
+--- 136725882
+>>136725844
+how the hell does ock have better range when he's just "le superior intellect" man, gob has literally two different personas you can play with
+--- 136725966
+>>136725882
+>gob has literally two different personas you can play with
+Not without autistic screaming from the fanbase.
+--- 136725974
+>>136725882
+>Le schizo man heckin awesome! 
+
+Shit character is shite.
+--- 136725984
+>>136725606
+Based. Fuck green nigger.
+--- 136726060
+>>136725974
+oh i see you're a beta male, keep being beta
+--- 136726161
+Doctor Octopus > Venom > Carnage > Green Goblin
+--- 136726176
+>>136725735
+fat guy that's as harmless as a puppy dog without his mechanical tentacles
+NO!
+--- 136726181
+>>136726060
+>Le schiz man!
+>Le schiz man!!
+>Le schiz man!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!!!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!!!!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!!!!!!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+>Le schiz man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+
+Face it the only memorable thing about you and your gay goblin is that he was played by a semi decent actor and a shitty story that forever ruined peter relationship with gwen and left her to be ruined by a black bull cuckold later on.
+--- 136726183
+>>136726161
+Here's something for you Otto fags. SOME AIDS.
+--- 136726196
+>>136726176
+>muh glidha
+>muh nigger pumpkins
+
+LOL!
+--- 136726216
+>>136726183
+>soulful villain VS soulless green flying turd.
+
+Based. Thank you anon
+--- 136726260
+>>136726216
+Otto is a wimp, a frightened mouse of a fag.
+--- 136726299
+>>136726260
+>finish it....
+
+Gg fags can't handle the superior choice.
+--- 136726399
+>>136726299
+Ah yes, Otto is so superior that his only relevant schemes in modern times involved having to become Peter Parker and his fans all cry that they wanted him to stay that way, because nobody likes a tubby boy!
+
+You must be green with envy that I like Goblin.
+--- 136726456
+>>136726399
+I like them both.
+--- 136726469
+One can argue that he inspired both
+>Mentally insane gimmick before Joker 
+>Corrupt rich man with an alter ego
+>Killed the hero's loved ones and was his arch enemy
+All this in the 60's and 70's where Joker and Lex were not serious
+--- 136726557
+>>136726469
+What annoys me is how people keep trying to say he was never a planner villain before his return. You see what counts as plans in the silver age. Then you read the Hobgoblin stories and you see Hobgoblin taking things Osborn had kept stored like a book filled with blackmail on other rich men and it's like how casual are you to think that?
+>I like Otto more but Green Goblin is the arch foe.
+--- 136726797
+>>136726557
+Lex Luthor also didn't start being an evil businessman until after Norman
+--- 136726955
+>>136726399
+Now how you gonna lecture us on schemes when your boy was the reason behind one of the worst fake rapey to be retocned hot steaming pile of shit garbage while giving birth to some of the most irrelevant twins ever. 
+
+Did we foeget your boy also tried to copy superior otto with that ugly ass costume of his?.
+--- 136727048
+>>136725882
+norman osborn is also a super genius in the comics.
+that part gets ignored in his movie and mcu versions much like how luthor in the movies and animations is only a businessman.
+--- 136727054
+>>136727048
+Everyone a fuckin' genius in the comics
+--- 136727071
+>>136725606
+people mostly like green goblin because of willem dafoe. and to be fair, i do too.
+--- 136727107
+>>136726797
+lex luthors gimmick was being a super human ordinary person. 
+ie a chad.
+he was at his best when writers understood this.
+basically he was the “i’m batman” meme personified.
+a traditional revitalization would have luthor train martial arts for a week and theb body both batman,ras al ghul,deathstroke,lady shiva simultaneously and win.
+luthor was supposed to be dc’s earth version of superchad amongst humans.
+seeing a luthor out genius the verified geniuses and out box the regulars is how i imagine luthor should be.
+batman with his current bat wank is basically what luthor should’ve been.
+--- 136727127
+>>136727071
+Tbh I very much enjoyed the rhyming gobey from spectacular Spider-Man and his costume was SIIIICKKyv8wtKKK KKK
+--- 136727308
+>>136725735
+Fuck off slott
+--- 136727809
+>>136727071
+I'm going to go wild card and say I've liked him after watching some TAS reruns my dad had recorded as a teen.
+--- 136729030
+>>136727054
+I can name many who aren't.
+--- 136729448
+>>136725735
+Fuck off Cunt Slott
+--- 136729494
+>>136725735
+What do you call this look? Villain casual?
+--- 136729500
+>>136725678
+No, it's Dr Octopus, he's way more iconic and is just as smart as Peter while being his opposite.
+--- 136729933
+>>136725700
+
+Lies!
+Looter Is!
+--- 136730044
+I never recognized him as Spider-Man's arch nemesis as a kid. That was always Doc Ock. He was smarter, stronger due to his tech and felt more thematically related due to the right legged animal parallel. Green Goblin was just that crazy guy who got lucky and killed Spider-Man's girlfriend. But that alone doesn't make him a big villain. It's not like Joe Chill is Batman's arch nemesis.
+The later attempt to make Norman into some weird lex luthor style mastermind always seemed absolutely stupid to me.
+--- 136730215
+>>136727127
+he was good in spectacular too, yeah. but then, everyone who isn't kraven was good in spectacular.
+--- 136730357
+>>136727048
+>that part gets ignored in his movie and mcu versions
+"You know, I'm something of a scientist myself"
+He is a genius in the movies too, he was actively involved in the development of the Goblin formula, and he wrote a paper that Peter studied while in High School. His buiness was built on his scientific background
+--- 136730418
+Why did he pick a green goblin as his villain persona anyway
+--- 136730446
+>>136725558 (OP)
+I don't understand what a goblin and spider thematically have to do with each other. At least with guys like Rhyno, Scorpion and Vulture it makes sense because they're animal themed guys like Spidey.
+--- 136730494
+>>136730446
+Spider versus Goblin. Moral enemies.
+--- 136730534
+>>136730446
+Spider = natural scary thing
+Goblin = supernatural scary thing
+--- 136730580
+>>136730044
+what you need to understand is that spider-man is just as much about peter parker. ock is a powerful threat, yes, but goblin has a unique personal connection to peter, a unique dynamic. he has the potential to antagonize peter and spider-man equally, which makes him a fitting rival.
+also worth mentioning is that a lot of spider-man villains, despite their power, are shitters. hell, shocker and electro's whole deals are that they're using immense power for run-of-the-mill street crime. but Norman is more intelligent, more ambitious, and is thus more of a threat.
+--- 136730908
+>>136730580
+nta but there is no reason to Norman to even give a fuck about Peter nor Peter can do much to him or his goals
+--- 136730988
+>>136730580
+>but goblin has a unique personal connection to peter
+
+There is nothing, that's why writers tried to push a retcon where he's a creepy crazy fuck who wants to be Peter father for some reason.
+--- 136731051
+>>136730580
+Venom does what GG does but much better and scarier. Its like Jill vs Nemesis with superheroes.
+--- 136731202
+>>136730446
+Up until Gwen Stacy died the Green Goblin was never considered Spidey's ultimate foe - he literally was just Lex plus Joker in a large rogue's gallery
+Slott is not wrong in his assertion Ock is the actual anti-Spider-Man thematically
+--- 136731213
+>people calling the spiderman villians scary
+--- 136731408
+>>136731202
+Please read ASM #17-19, the Goblin literally ruined Spider's career and he was a school era villain that Peter was never able to catch.
+>Slott is not wrong
+It's impossible, Slott is always wrong
+--- 136731471
+>>136731213
+I would have shitting bricks if I meet Vermin
+--- 136731534
+Harry Goblin is the best spider-man villain actually
+--- 136731581
+>>136731051
+Venom's a one-story wonder and mirror matches are played out
+--- 136731602
+I like Spider-Man but I hate his villains, they look so lame and most of them are just petty criminals, Spider-Man is supposed to look cool but his rogue gallery is goofy.
+--- 136731659
+>>136731534
+True. Like his father.
+--- 136731687
+>>136731581
+Venom is more popular than Ock and Goblin combined though as something Spiderman is known outside of MJ and Spidey himself.
+--- 136731716
+>>136731534
+Norman staying dead and Harry being the new Green Goblin forever would be great.
+--- 136732227
+>>136731602
+you could say this about any hero who isn't batman, but i do agree spider-man's rogues are overrated
+>>136731687
+that doesn't change a single thing I said
+--- 136732671
+>>136731602
+>>136732227
+Both Spider-Man and Batman villains are pure mediocrity and holding them as the highest standard of capevillains is pure normalfaggotry. The flip side of that coin is pretending Flash's villains are worth anything.
+--- 136732716
+>>136732671
+fuck you, captain boomerang is based
+--- 136733669
+>>136731716
+Harry's entire story as the Goblin was that trying to be his father would inevitably destroy who he was and literally kill him.
+
+If Harry had continued being the Goblin then he'd just have become Post-Clone Saga Norman Osborn, but this time at the cost of one of the great Spider-man stories.
+--- 136733729
+>>136725558 (OP)
+>unlike both of them, he's a physical threat who has super powers, making him a different kind of foe to his hero
+
+While true, all that usually only comes AFTER Norman's longrunning intricate and often-convoluted plan has already hit its stride, and by then it's gotten boring.
+--- 136734205
+>>136725558 (OP)
+Yeah he's a schizo worst of both worlds. He has the machiavellian ruthless businessman charisma, wealth, and connections of Luthor and the psychopathic murderous tendencies and wacky deadly gadgets of Joker. 
+
+>>136725606
+contrarian
+>>136725735
+lol no
+>>136730044
+He's thematic in that spiders are irrationally feared by people even though they do a lot of good by eating pests. Goblins are actual monsters without redeeming qualities but people overlook them because people assume them to be fairytale monsters much like how people overlook Norman Osborn's villainy because he's a billionaire business magnate who hides his dark/insane side.
+--- 136734808
+>>136734205
+I never thought about it like that
+--- 136734846
+>>136731408
+The Goblin didn't ruin Spidey's reputation, Aunt May did. Spidey was winning.
+--- 136734925
+>>136734205
+>Goblins are actual monsters without redeeming qualities
+Not every goblin was evil in the folklore.
+--- 136735577
+>>136730446
+Halloween related.
+--- 136735805
+>>136725723
+Venom is 10x more interesting and can attach to any villain to take any form. While both of them are one-note, Venom can play a longer song before he gets boring.
+--- 136736761
+>>136731051
+>>136731581
+>>136731687
+Venom is tied for my favorite Marvel character. I love him, but he's not the 1 arch villain of Spider-Man, he IS the most popular villain for Spider-Man, but he just isn't the arch foe and he's too much of a breakaway character
+
+The arch foe is Gob
+--- 136736962
+>>136735805
+The thing about Venom is he became heroic too early in his career. Even if people have tried to take him back to those villain origins here and there, it never sticks, because at this point being a dark hero is just part of his identity as much as being a Spider-Man villain was. So while Venom is cool, his status as a villain is pretty relinquished.
+--- 136737646
+>>136735577
+reminder that this halloween costume predates spider-man
+--- 136737803
+>>136725558 (OP)
+Does the Green Goblin look like a Skrull or do Skrulls look like The Green Goblin
+--- 136738415
+>>136737803
+Fun fact, Green Goblin is the only reason goblins are now most typically colored green and bear a striking resemblance to him, he is the character who created the common goblin image we know today
+--- 136739088
+>>136730446
+Why do things have to boil down to matching themes?
+
+Would Ratman be a better villain than Joker for Batman so you can have a rivalry about rodent types?
+--- 136739273
+>>136738415
+Not sure about that, Marvel's Green Goblin is not the first green goblin in literature or in drawings.
+--- 136739662
+>>136729494
+Tumblr sexyman.
+--- 136739736
+>>136739273
+Skin? Fuck no. His stylized liripipe? I'd believe it.
+--- 136740547
+>>136739736
+What's liripipe?
+--- 136740649
+>>136740547
+Daily reminder that Green Goblin fans are nerds.
+https://jihef03.tumblr.com/post/710092927355994112/yll-ever-wondered-what-was-the-deal-with-goblins
+--- 136740707
+>>136740649
+nerd(affectionate).
+--- 136741097
+>>136740649
+cool
+--- 136741953
+>>136740649
+I always thought it might be interesting if Norman had some kind of interest in pagan shit
+--- 136742895
+>>136740649
+jihef03 gets all the kudos from me for making Norman big.
+https://jihef03.tumblr.com/post/711091391158272000/face-off#notes
+--- 136743019
+>>136740649
+noice
+--- 136743906
+>>136742895
+Green Ogre
+--- 136744182
+>>136743906
+Norman will never be actual goblin height naturally but he wants to larp so bad as one so bad. I respect the enthusiasm.

co/136725581.txt

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+-----
+--- 136725581
+Some have argued Marvel should just have spider-man wake up from a coma having dreamed the whole run... Time for another thread opinion poll.
+https://strawpoll.com/polls/PbZqRqVbAyN
+--- 136725600
+>>136725581 (OP)
+Sorry freund, but this is real life 
+The elf gets the women
+--- 136725978
+>>136725600
+No.
+--- 136726979
+>>136725978
+Spider-Man thread
+--- 136727597
+is this the new Norman thread?
+--- 136728056
+>>136727597
+I think a Norman thread is still up.
+--- 136728230
+>>136728056
+>Ottofags coping and seething 
+Yeah, nah
+--- 136728985
+Bump.
+--- 136729076
+When is Chasm coming back? Any inside info?
+--- 136729147
+Anyone knows when the full Marvel Solicitations for July 2023 will come out?
+--- 136729997
+>>136729076
+You miss Chasm?
+--- 136730251
+>>136729997
+I have hopes they restore Ben due to the backlash and the movie
+--- 136730342
+>>136725581 (OP)
+It's weird how much Marvel editorial wants to deny readers what they want. They hire the only people on Earth who think Peter must be unmarried at all costs
+--- 136731639
+>>136730342
+It sucks.
+--- 136732194
+>>136729147
+already out but spider man wot be until next week probably.
+
+https://bleedingcool.com/comics/28-marvel-comics-july-2023-solicits-frankensteined/
+--- 136732289
+Spoilers are out for issue tomorrow and fans are already upset but it looks like Peter/MJ  isn't a thing anymore. 
+--- 136732305
+>>136730342
+Correction: They hire the only people on Earth who don't want Peter married and have no story reason for it or desire to write working class struggles.
+--- 136732328
+>>136730251
+Good luck, man.
+--- 136732338
+Spoilers for ASM #24 (in case you haven't seen it)
+
+ Peter gets MJ back to earth and he goes for a kiss and she tells him to back off.
+says this is my family
+Peter is devastated and that's it. 
+--- 136732389
+>>136732338
+Man I can't believe the issue right before the big one with 900 variants ends in a way to make people angry.
+--- 136732782
+Superstar Creators Celebrate Marvel Comics' Birthday in 'Marvel Age' #1000
+
+This August, pick up a giant-sized spectacular starring the X-Men, Spider-Man, and more to celebrate Marvel Comics’ birthday.
+
+On August 31, Marvel celebrates 84 years of stories and characters that have shaped pop culture as we know it. To mark the occasion, Marvel will be releasing MARVEL AGE #1000, a massive commemorative issue that includes contributions from some of the most storied creators in Marvel history, as well as a few surprises!
+
+Marvel’s big day honors the release of MARVEL COMICS #1, the one that started it all! The groundbreaking issue opened the doors to the Marvel Universe for the first time ever, creating a tapestry of Super Heroes and stories that have gone on inspire generations of fans around the world. The stories featured in MARVEL AGE #1000 will be a grand tour of the Marvel mythos with stories that explore the classic days of Marvel in exciting new depth!
+
+J. Michael Straczynski and Kaare Andrews create the Marvel Universe in a backyard!
+Dan Slott and Michael Allred depict a crucial turning point for Captain Marvel!
+Rainbow Rowell and Marguerite Sauvage explore the blossoming relationship between Cyclops and Jean Grey!
+The original Human Torch finds his purpose thanks to Mark Waid and Alessandro Cappuccio!
+The Silver Surfer confronts Mephisto under the guidance of Steve McNiven!
+Jason Aaron and Pepe Larraz detail Thor’s impact on a mortal life!
+Ryan Stegman explores the support network of Spider-Man’s friends and family!
+Armando Iannucci and Adam Kubert pit Daredevil up against a very human problem!
+And more!
+ 
+In addition, MARVEL AGE #1000 will bring back a classic and beloved Marvel Comics tradition: The Marvel Comics Value Stamp! Who or what will the ultimate Marvel Value Stamp, #1000, feature?
+
+>jms is back earlier than expected. Still, waiting for his 6-issue mini to be announced
+
+>>136732194
+weeks old info. Rich is getting really desperate
+--- 136732802
+MARVEL AGE #1000
+Written by J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI, DAN SLOTT, JASON AARON, MARK WAID, RAINBOW ROWELL, RYAN STEGMAN, STEVE MCNIVEN & ARMANDO IANNUCCI
+Art by KAARE ANDREWS, MICHAEL ALLRED, PEPE LARRAZ, ALESSANDRO CAPPUCCIO, RYAN STEGMAN, MARGUERITE SAUVAGE, STEVE MCNIVEN & ADAM KUBERT
+Cover by GARY FRANK
+On Sale 8/30
+
+Check out Gary Frank’s awe-inspiring cover below and stay tuned for more details about MARVEL AGE #1000 in the months ahead!
+--- 136732830
+14 variants to go
+--- 136732848
+>>136732830
+Look, it's worse Mania.
+--- 136732887
+>it's another Paul situation
+--- 136732947
+>>136732782
+So stegman is writing, could be fun.
+--- 136732976
+marvel is posting solicits one by one now. This is mega annoying 
+
+Miles Morales #8
+
+MILES BATTLES THE HOBGOBLIN!
+
+SPIDER-MAN, A.K.A. MILES MORALES, has a target on his spider-symbol’d back. The most dangerous super-villains in NYC keep coming at him – hard. First RABBLE, then CLETUS KASADY and now…THE HOBGOBLIN is back and more dangerous than ever, and he’s got his glider aimed squarely at Miles! How could this get any worse for Spidey? Well…Hobgoblin might not be the ONLY thing Miles needs to worry about…
+--- 136733013
+>>136732947
+stegmen has written a couple of times but nothing super long
+--- 136733014
+>>136732389
+Marvel still thinks outrage sells, when most people have just gone from outraged to no longer giving a shit because Marvel's incapable of fooling people into thinking Peter's life will get better anymore.
+--- 136733099
+Interview with wells. Amazing Spider-Man writer says "people will be very mad at me" after May's big shocker, and Marvel has cautioned him against conventions because of it
+
+Pop: Happy anniversary. We're about a year from Amazing Spider-Man #1 (2022), the beginning of your current run. How are you feeling?
+
+Zeb: You know, I’ve learned a lot. It's been a whirlwind, but overall I'm feeling great, I've done a lot of fun stuff with a lot of great people, worked with great artists and I'm writing Spider-Man. I could not be better.
+
+Pop: Your Spider-Man run has had street level stories. We began with an arc centering on the mobster Tombstone. We've also had cosmic stuff and magic stuff, like Dark Web. Where do you feel the most at home with Spider-Man?
+
+Zeb: I think I feel most at home with the street level stuff. But then because he's such a street level character, it is fun to push him into other things. So it makes it fun to do both, to push him into the magic, and the supernatural, because he doesn't belong there.
+
+Pop: Yeah, because he's the odd man out.
+
+Zeb: Exactly, which is good for Spider-Man. He should always be the odd man out.
+
+Pop: You worked on Spider-Man during the 'Brand New Day' era. What are some of the biggest changes in your writing process since then, how you view Spider-Man, and if you think he's different now than he was then?
+
+Zeb: Well, I think I'm a much more skilled writer - I would hope. I'm more confident. I've just done it for a lot longer, and so my process is a lot more dialed in. I have more fun doing it because I am more disciplined. And that's one thing you have to learn, more discipline leads to more fun. Spider-Man, he's got some more miles on him. He's seen some more stuff, some more traumas, some different traumas.
+
+Pop: You're responsible for one of those traumas!
+
+Zeb: I am! I am!
+--- 136733142
+Pop: Poor Billy Connors, but he's okay now.
+
+Zeb: And Nick Spencer, who was writing it before me, added a bunch of fun trauma and story points to the soup. So there is just a lot more nuanced stuff to play with.
+
+Pop: You mentioned Nick Spencer, and that brings up an interesting subject. He kind of set a lot of the table that you've had to work with. He gave you, 'Norman Osborn is a good guy now, have fun with that.' How did you approach that Peter and Norman relationship going in?
+
+Zeb: What Nick had teased up was giving me a chance to write Peter Parker and Norman not trying to kill each other, which we haven't seen since the first hundred issues of Amazing Spider-Man. I knew I wanted to live in that world as long as possible because I don't know when I'd ever get to do that again.
+
+Pop: And how do you view Norman through all of this, and the comfort level between him and Peter?
+
+Zeb: You want to respect what came before, and try to buy a world where Peter would stick around with Norman. It makes sense to me that Peter would want to stick around in order to help Norman not go back to the Green Goblin. Peter knows how damaging that would be if he does, and if he trusts that Norman really does want to change. Peter is a very kind hearted person and he's been a jerk in the past, so I think he's always looking for the best in people.
+
+Pop: Another former rogues gallery member, but one that Peter is a lot more comfortable with - A LOT more comfortable with is Felicia Hardy. They've gotten closer during your run. Talk about getting Peter and Felicia back together. How do you see their relationship?
+
+Zeb: I see it as very fun. They're both superheroes. Felicia is clearly not his equal because she's more of just about everything that he is - she's more. It's fun to put him in a situation where he can barely keep up and to see if now that he's a little older, see if he can hang with her a little bit better.
+--- 136733173
+Pop: They've both changed a lot since their first relationship.
+
+Zeb: For sure, and Jed MacKay has filled in so much of her character in the meantime. It's fun to play with.
+
+Pop: I mentioned this to you before the interview, but Rek-Rap, he's the subject of one of the most popular articles I have ever written for Popverse. Talk about this Bizarro Spider-Man character and the fun that you had writing him.
+
+Zeb: It was so much fun. And it all comes from Ed McGuinness' design. He came with that character and said, "Here, I've got an idea for a character. Here it is. I think the name is Rek-Rap. Is there room for this in the story?" And I was like, "Well, there's got to be, because whatever that is, he looks like he’s too much fun to write." I went in and reread the Rek-Rap stuff that I wrote and I was kind of cracking myself up because it's so stupid. This stuff coming out of his mouth is so stupid in a funny way.
+
+Pop: And so some of those moments like when he shouts his own sound effects.
+
+Zeb: They're just so dumb. Like when he calls it web-wanging. It's just insane. I loved being able to write something that silly. You don't get to write that very often.
+
+Pop: Will we be seeing him again?
+
+Zeb: Definitely. Ed would choke me out if I didn't bring Rek-Rap back.
+
+Pop: From one spider-doppelganger to another, let's talk Ben Reilly. Why this approach with Ben? What's going on with him, and will we be seeing him again?
+
+Zeb: I think that Ben is like at the midpoint of a very interesting arc. I would never leave the book without doing more with Ben Reilly or trying to bring that story to a close. He's going to be a big part of the book going forward. And now that he's in that tower with Madelyne Pryor there, there's even talk of other books using him, which would be great fun.
+--- 136733194
+>>136733142
+Man they really are ignoring the big thing nick did, huh?
+--- 136733197
+Pop: It was an interesting parallel with how Madelyne and Ben's stories intersected during Dark Web. As Madelyne Pryor was being redeemed, Ben was taking the opposite path. What was it like coordinating Dark Web with the X-Men creative team?
+
+Zeb: It was good because me and Gerry (Duggan) know each other from the X-Men days, and I'm no stranger to the X-Slack (editorial note: The X-Men group Slack). It was just fun to be able to work with that office again, because I love all those guys and I love doing Hellions with them, and I had a special run with all of those guys.
+
+Pop: You also brought back Roderick Kingsley and revisited the Betty Brant and Ned Leeds storyline. What was it like playing in the Hobgoblin sandbox, and how did you decide what approach to take with the Hobgoblin mystery box?
+
+Zeb: I didn't want to do a Hobgoblin story that didn't have some sort of mysterious identity, because it just didn't feel like I was doing Hobgoblin if I did. But I did it all in three issues! I reread the original Hobgoblin saga and that mystery went on for so long, so I didn't want to stretch it out. I wanted to just do the reveal quickly. So, take all of that Hobgoblin stuff and maybe just kind of take the cream of the crop and squeeze it into 3 snappy fun issues.
+
+Pop: You left Betty and Ned in a pretty rough spot. Ned is in jail, framed for the Hobgoblin's crimes. Will we be seeing them again during your run?
+
+Zeb: I would think so. There are no hard plans, but I want to use as much of Peter's social circle as possible.
+
+Pop: Over in Jed MacKay's Mary Jane and Black Cat limited series we saw Mary Jane with powers. Will the origin of her powers be addressed during your current arc, as we flash back to the missing events from last year?
+
+Zeb: Yes. We will definitely see how that came about, and what happened and see the origin of Mary Jane as a hero.
+--- 136733221
+>>136733014
+They'll point to how high the sales are while sidestepping how many variants there are
+--- 136733227
+>>136733197
+They're totally making her jackpot.
+--- 136733228
+>>136733194
+they're avoiding it like the devil (heh). I don't blame them, but also, it's their own fucking fault so is ignoring it any better?
+--- 136733243
+Pop: This is all leading to Amazing Spider-Man #26, which you have called the most shocking event to happen to Spider-Man in 50 years. Back in 1973 Marvel killed Gwen Stacy. I know that you can't tell us what this shocking thing is, but what can you tease?
+
+Zeb:I can tease that many people will be very mad at me. I can tease that Nick (Lowe) told me not to do any comic conventions after this issue comes out (laughs). People will be upset.
+
+Pop: I know you can't tell us what happens, but can you describe how editorial reacted when you pitched this to them. What was their level of shock?
+
+Zeb:Nick's a mad man, so he was completely down. I don't know how it went when he ran it up the ladder, but I'm very excited for people to read issue 26.
+
+Pop: How long do you see yourself on Amazing Spider-Man?
+
+Zeb: Well, I see myself a little past issue 50 at the very least. Once we get there we just have to see. I'm getting busier with other things, but I'll be on this as long as I can humanly do it. If I can do it, they will have to kick me off this book. The exact length is undecided, but I'm in the long haul. I'm here until at least issue 50.
+
+>all I can say is wells - a massive uncaring to the craft faggot. Even slott seems more passionate
+--- 136733253
+>>136733197
+>As Madelyne Pryor was being redeemed, Ben was taking the opposite path.
+that sure is one way of framing it
+--- 136733264
+>>136733228
+Well im talking about the thing the run started with, you know the thing the run also ended with. The one that people talked about?
+--- 136733265
+there are too many layers of lies
+--- 136733279
+>>136733243
+So ending in may.
+--- 136733316
+>>136733265
+Lies?
+--- 136733339
+marvel age stories are 10 pages each
+
+>>136733316
+wells pretends to care
+--- 136733353
+>>136733264
+I know you mean MJ/Peter, but it's really not the only thing and in both cases the devil jab is still accurate.
+--- 136733375
+>>136733353
+Just saying, if you asked any random person the biggest thing that happened in that run...
+--- 136733383
+>>136733339
+He doesnt seem to at all.
+--- 136733492
+Spider-Verse Unlimited Infinity Comic (2022) #46
+Published:
+April 18, 2023
+
+>>136733383
+his attempts are quite pathetic but it's still annoying as fuck
+--- 136733577
+>>136733492
+At least this all but confirms he's leaving in may.
+--- 136733582
+>>136732338
+tell me you're joking
+--- 136733605
+>>136733243
+The children are Peter and Gwen's from another timeline
+--- 136733645
+>>136733099
+Is he referring to MJ coming back with Paul or something much much worse we have yet to find out?
+--- 136733683
+Hallows Eve #3
+
+EVE VERSUS SPIDER-MAN! ‘Nuff said?!
+--- 136733719
+>>136733582
+No, reviwer did confirm that. But again could be bait untill 25. Lets wait untill then to get angry?
+--- 136733741
+asm 26 var. brilliant
+--- 136733750
+>>136733741
+>another fucking spoiler cover
+ugh
+--- 136733759
+>>136733741
+Either dead MJ or jackpot MJ. No other possibilites.
+--- 136733770
+>>136733719
+I think # 25 and 26 are going to make people even more mad according to Wells
+--- 136733802
+>>136733770
+He said 26. Which could mean 25 reveals "oh no mj didnt do the thing" before 26 kills her. That WOULD be a massive shitstorm.
+--- 136733844
+>>136733243
+>but I'm in the long haul.
+you lied LIED
+--- 136733865
+>>136733844
+He said 50, which is may. So far it lines up?
+--- 136733895
+>>136733865
+rumourcucks told me run would end after what peter did
+--- 136733907
+>>136733895
+That was the first thing? Im pretty sure since it had been contently about wells staying for a second year?
+--- 136733915
+>>136733865
+>50 is in May
+But we are only on issue 24? Or does beyond count too
+--- 136733921
+>>136733895
+Gurg get off internet.
+--- 136733931
+>>136733173
+>I would never leave the book without doing more with Ben Reilly or trying to bring that story to a close. He's going to be a big part of the book going forward. 
+>And now that he's in that tower with Madelyne Pryor there, there's even talk of other books using him, which would be great fun.
+--- 136733958
+>>136733931
+At least Kaine got the sweet release of being forgotten
+--- 136734010
+>>136733931
+The sheer amount of Spider-Man focused villains being lent out to fill space in the X-men books says so much about how badly they fucked up in making the muties one big happy family.
+--- 136734013
+If Lowe and Wells fear going to cons then maybe don’t fucking fire the plot you have in the chamber
+--- 136734038
+>>136733915
+Id say so? but a year more would be may, and that would match with 50.
+--- 136734052
+>>136734013
+Maybe some brave soul will pull a trigger there.
+--- 136734234
+Do you think in the near future Lowe will get a scary call from Disney? Normally a parent company like them let’s Marvel Comics run itself with off hands overlook, but we’re now entering a big problem of dropping sales and IP damaging which is a big no no for The Mouse. Disney has enough headaches with low movie turnout and Majors strangling his girl, this is more shit they don’t need right now. Hell I don’t think OMD would have happened if Disney owned Marvel Comics at the time
+--- 136734243
+>>136732338
+>Peter gets MJ back to earth and he goes for a kiss and she tells him to back off.
+>says this is my family
+Well that makes if offical in that case MJ definitely cheated on Peter with Paul their relationship is through maybe forever now is the the time to drop Spider-Man for good fuck this book.
+>Peter is devastated and that's it.
+--- 136734314
+>>136733770
+>I think # 25 and 26 are going to make people even more mad according to Wells
+MJ will die and Gwen will be brought back somehow the blonde wins anons.
+--- 136734353
+>>136734243
+I love how a relationship that has the thumbs up from God himself, that has weathered years of stress/issues, where MJ chose not to abandon Peter after Gwen died, a pairing so strong that Mephisto wanted it….Is undone by THIS of all things. 
+>She’s a woman with needs and Paul was the only guy around after insert years 
+Kinda bullshit when you consider what MJ knows and the lengths Peter would go to port back. 
+
+Also think about this: Batman had a similar story during Tom Kings run where he was stuck in another dimension for years with Wonder Woman, where time worked differently back home and it was hours for Selina, still waited for her. WE ARE IN A WORLD WHERE BATMAN HAS STRONGER BOND WITH ROMANCE THAN PETER
+--- 136734371
+>>136734353
+Again, this is the big bait ending for 24, 25 will confirm or deny this.
+--- 136734414
+>>136734371
+I could honestly see Marvel going either way on it. It'd be fully within the Marvel Office's tendencies to fully double down and absolutely crater Peter/MJ in the same way they've insisted on maintaining OMD over the years. But considering they've pussed out over other big changes over the years like with Captain Hydra, it's just as likely they'll claim MJ is lying or being deceived just to give them an out if the nerd backlash gets big enough to make real life headlines.
+--- 136734454
+>>136734038
+When you people kept saying may I thought you meant the one this year 2 weeks from now
+--- 136734465
+>>136732976
+>>136733045
+Stealing a villain AND a cover.
+--- 136734477
+>>136734454
+I always said may? Or nov at the earliest. But i never leaked stuff.
+--- 136734484
+>>136734414
+I defintely agree. Just saying that regardless this issue is going to end in a big cliffhanger way to get people to read 25, then 25 will go with either thing.
+--- 136734497
+>>136734477
+My point is when you say may it makes me think you mean the one in 2 weeks not the one a full year away
+ You got my hopes up that he would be gone in a month
+--- 136734556
+>>136734497
+I think that leak was very early? But i remember that since we've constantly heard stuff pointing towards nov or may.
+--- 136734678
+>>136733173
+>Zeb: I think that Ben is like at the midpoint of a very interesting arc. I would never leave the book without doing more with Ben Reilly or trying to bring that story to a close. He's going to be a big part of the book going forward. And now that he's in that tower with Madelyne Pryor there, there's even talk of other books using him, which would be great fun.
+
+
+Midpont to where? He went from hero to villain. The two most distant points of the arc.
+--- 136734719
+>>136734484
+Given that said Wells said # 25 and 26 will make fans even more mad I for one am convinced that 25 will confirm that MJ did cheat on Peter and that she will die in 26 my money is on that scenario.
+--- 136734774
+>>136732194
+After reading the spoilers for the ASM #24 I don't think I care about Spider-Man period to be honest the sooner this book dies the better.
+--- 136734792
+>>136734719
+He said 26, not 25. I can see shit like, no she didnt do the thing but now she's dead. That would piss people off.
+--- 136734795
+what will Gwenschizo's/anti-MJ spammer's cope be when Wells and Lowe weren't allowed to shit on MJ so badly that she was made a cheater with kids and all this talk about the next few issues is just empty hype?
+--- 136734840
+>>136734795
+Let me guess you never read OMD have you anon? wow you really hae been living under a rock have you not.
+--- 136734867
+>>136734840
+since you're here anyway, I'll ask you directly - what will your cope be?
+--- 136734871
+>>136734795
+She still made Peter sell their marraige so she would be free to date black firemen
+--- 136734966
+>>136734867
+None whatsover anon in fact I am going to enjoy mocking Normanfaggs/MJfaggs for a long time if it is confirmed that MJ did cheat on Peter this will be my way of payback for all the times you mocked Gwen. And who knows maybe after this is over Gwen will be revived after all.
+--- 136735036
+>>136734966
+Is this a bit? Serious question
+--- 136735126
+>>136735036
+I am serious about this I see it this way if it does gets confirmed that MJ did cheat on Peter then I rather see Gwen brought back and that Peter be with her since she did remain faithful to him.
+--- 136735151
+>>136735126
+Marvel already has two Gwens that nobody cares about besides coomers and losers obsessed with shipping, a third is redundant at this point.
+--- 136735191
+>>136735151
+Neither of them is Gwen is from Earth-(616) that the only one I care about anon.
+--- 136735222
+>>136735191
+It's cool you care, but I'm pointing out that you're more likely to see the mutant Gwen clone with eye lasers that turns into a giant spider be shackled to Peter than you are to ever see the original brought back to life to be glued to Peter's cock.
+--- 136735233
+why did gwenschizo make another thread?
+--- 136735300
+>>136735222
+At this point I am not ruling out the possibility of Gwen being brought back if # 25 does confirm that MJ did chest on Peter and that she dies in 26.
+--- 136735358
+>>136735233
+Hopefully will finally get banned.
+--- 136735409
+>>136735358
+Lol it's a normal thread so no chance of that happening.
+--- 136735467
+>>136735409
+It's creating a thread while there's one still.
+--- 136735596
+>>136735467
+If anybody should get banned it's your Normanfaggs you recently tried to ruin a What if Spider-Man Storytime with Sins Past and for no reason whatsover other then to simply spam the thread.
+
+>>136713111 →
+--- 136735619
+>>136735596
+I'm not a norman fagg, but you have been shitting these threads since 2018.
+--- 136735644
+please don't reply to him
+--- 136735668
+>>136735644
+I'm in a hospital for my dad and bored.
+--- 136735688
+imagine not being a hamsterfag
+--- 136735696
+>>136735467
+Has anyone else been banned for creating multiple threads because they didn't like an image? Gwenshizo will live to soil the doorsteps of threads another day.
+--- 136735736
+>>136735696
+Wasn't industryfag banned?
+--- 136735765
+>>136735736
+unless it's a copycat (or two), he's still shitting about. I thought I saw him complaining about something the other day
+--- 136735777
+>>136735765
+Barneyfag?
+--- 136735812
+>>136735688
+I find the sins past posting tiresome, but you at least contribute shit. And you fags aren't posting just to upset people
+--- 136736101
+>>136735855
+More.
+--- 136736103
+>>136733045
+jannies doing litteraly anything but dealing with schizos
+--- 136736159
+>>136735812
+>you fags aren't posting just to upset people
+Sir, that is 95% of the fun.
+--- 136736167
+>>136736159
+But it's just posting the same thing with no humor or self awareness.
+--- 136736173
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq30vO3K4Lw [Embed]
+--- 136736229
+>my post got deleted
+>didn't even type the gamer word out entirely
+I think we've been wrong this entire time. The mod is a fucking Milesfag and got his feelings hurt when no one was polishing off his tiny, flaccid dick
+--- 136736230
+>>136736167
+Re: Sins Past posting. It's fun because it's annoying.
+--- 136736297
+>>136736230
+But there's some effort there.
+--- 136736350
+are we talking about Sins Past again
+--- 136736398
+>>136736350
+need new memes
+--- 136736427
+>went to my comic shop for the first time in a while
+>talk to the owner for a bit and catch up
+>spider-man comes up
+>used to be one of their bestsellers
+>now is only on 2 pull lists
+>only orders 10 copies of amazing each issue
+>can't even sell them all
+I don't keep up with Spider-Man, but I didn't realize how grim things were getting.
+--- 136736447
+>>136736427
+Trades too. Fucking spiderman loves Mary jane outsold the last one.
+--- 136736486
+>>136736297
+Indeed, sir. It's fun to shitpost! The attractiveness wanes, though, if you shitpost about the same subject in the same way too frequently. There must be work put forward to keep things fresh. It helps that some people care about Sarah and Gabe, even if they don't care if Sins Past is canon. Most, if not all, Osborn supporters genuinely hated how Spencer's run ended for the Osborns.
+--- 136736501
+>>136736447
+Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane is a great comic. I didn't know Marvel had reprinted the trades.
+--- 136736543
+does 616 ASM have anything going for it?
+--- 136736563
+>>136736486
+If you shitpost about the same thing with no variation it becomes spam.
+--- 136736778
+Hey what's all in the wedding album hardcover?
+--- 136736781
+>>136736563
+Exactly. It also becomes boring. I don't know how the shizos do it.
+--- 136736794
+>>136736778
+I have it. It's good but too big for my collection.
+--- 136736838
+I'm trying to figure out the logic here behind editorial's "This is going to piss off readers so much we're not going to cons anymore" comment. Aren't sales hurting? Who's buying this? Because there's no speculator market here, and casuals won't touch this. Also unrelated but what's the word on Dan Slott? Has he cracked yet after the Spider-Boy humiliation? 
+
+Someone leak hot rumors/gossip in the office, damn it
+--- 136737113
+>>136736501
+Ummm isn't it the book where MJ basically drools over every male in 10 km proximity?
+Peter, Harry, Flash, of course, Spider-Man.
+I've read it years ago and I have the same vibe from her like Mary Whore from Sam Raimi's movies
+--- 136737160
+>>136736501
+They have. It's very ironic. 
+>>136737113
+She doesn't like flash or Harry. That's the point. She feels torn between Peter and spidey but at the end likes Peter more, it's just he ends up dating Gwen for a bit.
+--- 136737228
+>>136737160
+I could be mis-remembering, for that I apologize.
+
+Doesn't she date Harry or Flash for some time? I literally have 4 tpbs on my shelf but I am too lazy to double check. I remember she kept switching between different guys while also having feelings/interest towards Peter/Spidey and I felt pretty weird about it.
+--- 136737317
+You know I think the most offensive thing isn't the Paul shit, or any other fakeout, but rather the complete waste of time this has taken up.
+--- 136737358
+>>136737317
+I like how recent FF's run explained it's mystery box after only 4 issues and it were very enjoyable 4 issues, to say the least.
+--- 136737489
+Something is fucky at the Marvel office. Check out how McKay is throwing shade on the house of ideas golden boy. Someone better start squealing. An artist might say something. Check with Carlos Gomez
+--- 136737522
+>>136737228
+She dated Harry twice but didn't feel anything for him (first was due to social niches second was her guilted into it) flash had a crush on her but she didn't feel the same. That's what I think.
+--- 136737590
+>>136737522
+Could you remind me when Harry guilted her into it? That detail is escaping me.
+--- 136737665
+>>136736101
+--- 136737898
+>>136737590
+I don't remember exactly but iirc because everyone else had a couple and harry pretended to be sad more or less and this was at Norman's advice Harry wise.
+--- 136737945
+>>136737898
+Oh. C'mon man. You can't give me a detail like that then leave me hangin'! Please. I wanna see!
+--- 136738011
+>>136732976
+Ugh.
+>>136733045
+Jannies:
+>gwenshizo and marywhorefag good
+>anti-miles shitposter bad
+Worthless fucks.
+--- 136738067
+>>136738011
+Racism is against 4chan but it's rarely enforced.
+--- 136738121
+>>136732976
+It would be nice if Hobgoblin was respected by the Miles writers. I wonder if the hobs will leave Morales seeing double.
+--- 136738133
+>>136738067
+Racism is a part of this website's "culture" though.
+--- 136738302
+>>136725581 (OP)
+Why stop at just the Wells run? Nothing of value would really be lost if Peter had been in a coma since before OMD and everything from then on was just a hallucination.
+--- 136738331
+the Spidey office shitting on marydvmbfags' delusions is always a Godsend
+--- 136738351
+>>136738302
+I don't know, Spencer's run did a lot of canon clean up
+--- 136738358
+>>136732887
+>Bailey Dougal
+>no name alliteration with two B's
+
+Very upset.
+--- 136738386
+>>136738331
+Lol they're afraid of getting murked now.
+--- 136738411
+>>136734465
+>Stealing a villain AND a cover.
+
+It's comical at that point (pardon the pun). The character has no identity outside of being an overpowered black rip-off of Peter Parker.
+--- 136738614
+>>136736838
+>I'm trying to figure out the logic here behind editorial's "This is going to piss off readers so much we're not going to cons anymore" comment.
+Either this is an elaborate bait and switch so you'll be relieved when nothing seriously bad actually happens, or it's the same old Marvel, still convinced that angry fans equals more sales and more reader engagement, and going all out to make Spider-Man fans so angry that the creative team are literally afraid to show their faces in public.
+
+Will we see waifufags beating up writers and editors at conventions?
+--- 136738659
+>>136738614
+Imagine that.
+--- 136738684
+>>136736838
+All I'm getting from this is only collectors are buying ASM anymore and they don't read it. Realizing that, Marvel is feeding the flames so these issues would sound more... memorable.
+--- 136738705
+>>136738351
+Rewind back to 2007 and there's nothing that needed a 'clean up'. Peter and MJ are still together, Felicia isn't a villain, Harry and Kraven are still dead. There's nothing else that 'needed' Spencer trying to 'fix' it, and let's be honest, what he did to Harry and the Osborn family was worse than the status quo he inherited.
+--- 136738726
+It's funny how they can't keep their story straight
+>tons of people actually like this run we get a ton of positive letters
+>we are scared that we'll get killed after publishing this because everyone will hate it.
+--- 136738745
+>>136738133
+Racism remains forbidden but sexism isn't. Talk it up with your local moderator.
+--- 136738750
+>>136738705
+He broke the osbrons but honestly he fixed a ton of BND shit. Not needed if you erase it and all but still.
+--- 136738759
+>>136738745
+I'd rather to talk to a wall.
+--- 136738809
+>>136738705
+Harry still didn't need to die~
+Kraven's post death stories are still canon so Spencer's 'fix' did nothing.
+--- 136738815
+>>136738759
+--- 136738851
+>>136738809
+Eh the kraven stuff was better than having him around.
+
+His fixes aren't needed kf you ignore shit post omd ofc.
+--- 136738866
+>>136738759
+Both are the same action.
+--- 136738922
+>>136738809
+I prefer Harry being alive to being dead, and by the time Spencer tried to 'fix' this he'd been back so long most readers had accepted it long ago, but my point was that for people who saw his return as a 'mistake' Spencer was 'fixing', rewinding back to 2007 renders it all a non-issue.
+
+>Kraven's post death stories are still canon so Spencer's 'fix' did nothing.
+This is a very good point that needs to be brought up every time someone praises Spencer's Kraven story, and every time they claim it "reinstates" Kraven's Last Hunt as Kraven's death.
+--- 136738946
+>>136738851
+If I was interested in ignoring 14 years worth of stories I'd be a Batman fan and happily unaware of what a gwenshizo is.
+--- 136739052
+>>136738922
+I agree that bringing back Harry the first time was a mistake too but killing him again was the bigger error.
+--- 136739168
+Why editorial hates MJ
+https://twitter.com/Vad_Arts/status/1648365061247844367
+--- 136739196
+>>136739052
+Idk Harry alive never did interesting stuff to the point he was a new character.
+
+The issue was the sins past and mephisto junk.
+--- 136739387
+>>136739196
+With all due respect, I don't think we're ever going to be in agreement here. Some of his character beats were interesting. Others had potential. Other issues could have been fixed with more attention made to bridging the gaps between the takes on the character. If a writer does not work on that potential it's the fault of the writer not the character.
+--- 136739750
+>>136739196
+We'll have to agree to disagree on Harry, and on Sins Past being something that 'needed' fixing, least of all in a way that killed three characters and wrecked another. Let's instead focus on the sheer ineptitude of this:
+
+>doesn't actually fix the Mephisto stuff people want fixed
+>instead does MOAR MEPHISTO
+
+People defend Spencer's run for doing 'continuity clean-up' on things that didn't need cleaning up, while his own stories end with an awful mess that needed cleaning up and retconning.
+--- 136739872
+Is there a definitive reason why editorial doesn't like the marriage? Surely it loses them money
+--- 136740068
+>>136738815
+kek
+--- 136740183
+>>136739872
+>Quesada
+Projecting.
+>Now
+Not relatable to the modern working class hero type he represents. MJ is now Princess Yuna Tiana Belle.
+--- 136740237
+>>136740183
+Now it's that it's the same people that quesada put there.
+--- 136740241
+>>136737317
+My tinfoil hat theory that probably isn't correct is that the reason it's taken this long for us to get answers regarding the mystery box is because they knew that if they revealed it right out of the gate it would get people to drop the book, so they decided to hold out on it to keep people reading.
+--- 136740280
+>>136740241
+But people still won't unless they have a thing to yank a chain.
+--- 136740343
+>>136740237
+https://queen-mabs-revenge.tumblr.com/post/698176164882169856/im-sorry-the-in-order-for-peter-to-be-a-grown#notes
+
+They think like this person.
+--- 136740395
+>>136740343
+Well yeah but they're an absolute minority for the Fandom especially after a decade of single spiderman stories that become progressively more hated.
+--- 136740472
+So shit.
+--- 136740564
+>>136740395
+>MJ/Peter?
+Almost everyone wants that.
+>Married Peter/MJ?
+Up for discussion. As long as they're committed most would be fine with the setup.
+>A house.
+The topic has become more heated. In an apartment and not broke on the streets is acceptable.
+>Rich like MC2
+The debate has now turned violent.
+--- 136740719
+>>136740183
+>>136740237
+It's been going on since before Quesada, since practically as soon as the marriage happened. Some of it is them claiming marriage 'ages' Peter, some of it is shippers who won't accept it being MJ. The marriage was one of the last things to happen under Jim Shooter before he was fired, so some of the hatred of it may possibly be entrenched resentment of Shooter and everything he had a hand in.
+
+But a lot of it is also these people wanting to live vicariously through a single Peter Parker dating a lot of different girls, and lazy writers wanting to keep recycling the same tired old stories of the hero self-sabotaging his love life by maintaining a secret identity.
+
+>>136740241
+My theory is still that it took this long because they didn't even know what the answers were going to be when the run started, and that Marvel operates like that all the time.
+--- 136740997
+>I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye.
+--- 136741411
+pathetic sad sack (cuck)
+--- 136741500
+>>136725581 (OP)
+This is m.jane goodbye arc.
+How satisfied are you from 1 to 10?
+--- 136742064
+>>136741500
+5
+--- 136742074
+>>136740719
+How do we get shooter back?
+--- 136742144
+>>136740719
+>My theory is still that it took this long because they didn't even know what the answers were going to be when the run started, and that Marvel operates like that all the time.
+
+It's basically the mystery box technique that Lost did
+--- 136742309
+>spider-man is a satanist manchild cuck
+how did it get to this?
+--- 136742326
+>>136742309
+Quesada. Maybe if someone does something it will stop.
+--- 136742335
+>>136742074
+Build a time machine, anon. We have to fix the timeline.
+
+Face it, if they just re-hired him today to run Marvel he wouldn't last a week before they got him fired for "bullying" the talent the same as would happen to anyone who demanded they actually do their jobs and do them well.
+--- 136742376
+>>136741500
+6
+Seeing MJcopers in full denial is funny
+--- 136742402
+>>136742376
+Lmao wells is now actually afraid for his life. Good.
+--- 136742453
+>>136742335
+Maybe. We do need a based one
+--- 136742631
+>>136742074
+He is literally anathema to everything current year Marvel (and Disney) stand for. Even look at him in his youth. He looks like every liberal arts fag worst nightmare of a 1950's / 60's suit and tie wife-beating nigger-lynching businessman who will crush their 'creative freedom' to do gay and stupid shit. Not on Big Jim's watch, punk.
+--- 136742685
+>>136742631
+Sadly even Big Jim Shooter couldn't stop Marvel writers from slipping gay stuff into their books back in the 80s.
+--- 136742741
+>>136742631
+Wasn't the only guy that liked him in marvel black?
+--- 136742786
+>>136741411
+Torch ain't any better off than you, chum.
+--- 136742806
+>>136725581 (OP)
+Wells and Lowe's heads should be tied to pikes
+--- 136742948
+>>136742806
+>>136742402
+You know they just got a raise last year, right?
+--- 136743057
+>>136742948
+Wells said he's afraid of going to cons after this. Fucker knows he'll get punched. Can't hide behind any of the usual shit cause fucker is white
+--- 136743129
+>>136742948
+That doesn't change the fact that their heads should be tied to pikes. We know Marvel is run by retards
+--- 136743168
+so is wells gonna undo this himself at the end of his run or is the next other supposed to clean that shit up?
+--- 136743177
+>>136743129
+I wonder if an innocent person killed themselves over this would they be forced to act.
+--- 136743235
+>>136743168
+He said that it would be great if it stick around for some time but he know how comics work and another writer can retcon all of this
+--- 136743247
+>>136743177
+They don’t really care anon, wells is just there to finish up his own stories and lowe is just trying to get miles to sell more than peter at the expense of the whole IP. The suits don’t care because they get money elsewhere and that’s about it, the best you can do is just separate yourself entirely and see if you can find something else to enjoy
+--- 136743248
+>>136743168
+As long as Lowe remains that asshead retard won't let anyone change it.
+--- 136743257
+>>136743177
+Don't do it, anon. I know we all want them to stop, we all want to find a way to make them stop, but let's not any of us kill ourselves to send a message. You're all valuable parts of the Spider-Man /co/mmunity. All of you except Gwenschizo and Whorekek, who should be banned for life.
+--- 136743282
+>>136743168
+I doubt it will be impactful.
+--- 136743305
+>>136743247
+Maybe but it would be a press shitstorm for them.
+>>136743257
+It feels like I can't do shit. I don't have money for art, I can't draw, I can't write. At least this sends a message.
+--- 136743307
+>>136743247
+If they do pull this shit off, I'm dissociating myself with anything Marvel. Better to completely forget this brand than to give them money
+--- 136743323
+>>136743305
+Please please PLEASE don’t kill yourself over comic books buddy, none of this is worth it
+--- 136743331
+>>136743177
+Marvel would lol
+--- 136743343
+>>136743282
+I agree. People think he's going to kill Mary Jane. I don't see it. This run will end soon and be forgotten and someone else will take over.
+--- 136743359
+>>136743307
+I genuinely believe that Lowe is intentionally sabotaging the brand in hopes of getting bendis back on miles book. I can’t see the logic in ANY decision in amazing sense spencer was forced off the book
+--- 136743394
+>>136743343
+Gwen’s death pretty much prevents MJ from ever dying, it’s to hackey to have him get two loves of his life killed and it would logically end with him not being spider-man. They also can’t afford to butcher his supporting cast any more than they already have, for a book that became iconic because of its slice of life elements, there’s nothing THERE of that in it anymore
+--- 136743397
+>>136743305
+Don't do it, man. Don't be like Kraven, be an Osborn, fake your death and move to Paris.
+--- 136743412
+>>136743394
+Yeah. This hasn't been a good run. I liked the first arc a lot, but it's been downhill ever since. But even still, I don't think he'd do something that insane. Or even if she does die I'm sure they'll bring her right back.
+--- 136743539
+>>136743323
+I am just so tired and my life isn't helping currently. I don't think I will but man no one would miss me and this would fuck with them.
+>>136743397
+Hah made me smile a bit.
+--- 136743617
+>>136743412
+>But even still, I don't think he'd do something that insane. Or even if she does die I'm sure they'll bring her right back.
+This is a good time to remind everyone that Marvel tried killing MJ once before at the end of the 90s, as far as we know they meant for it to be real but they brought her back just over a year later.
+--- 136743646
+So Wells is giving people cases of diagnosed bouts of serious depression?
+
+
+Hmmm how to use this for the greater good
+--- 136743797
+>>136743539
+If you're actually considering this please reach out to someone in your life or call into a hotline.
+--- 136743904
+>>136733243
+>Nick's a mad man, so he was completely down.
+Is he talking about Nick Spencer? or somebody else?
+I mean, if Nick Spencer was down to it, then its probably not Mary Jane who dies at #26
+--- 136743995
+>>136743904
+Lowe, and it's probably not MJ regardless. It's too on the nose
+--- 136743998
+>>136743904
+Nick Lowe
+--- 136744010
+>>136743646
+Life in general but this doesn't help.
+>>136743797
+Why would I speak with a rando that just wants me not to do it? My friends are all busy and will be much happier without me dragging their moods down.
+--- 136744050
+>>136742376
+>Not even anti marrywhorefags think this arc is good
+--- 136744069
+>>136743797
+This. 
+>>136743177
+Here's a list. If you are at all serious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
+I don't give a shit if you're one of the spammers, find your country and call it.
+--- 136744101
+>>136744069
+Thanks. I was just wondering because I've been thinking this for a while.
+--- 136744145
+>>136744050
+Not enough chucking imo 
+Want to see more of MJ being the slut she was since her debut!
+--- 136744165
+>>136744145
+*cucking
+--- 136744217
+>>136741500
+8.
+It's been decent enough for us Spider-man fans.
+Plus marytrashfags seething is the gift that keeps on giving.
+--- 136744286
+>>136744217
+Yeah thats why wells is afraid kek. Go jump off a bridge.
+--- 136744290
+We really need Ghost Rider to show up and get shit straightened out
+--- 136744423
+>>136744290
+I'm liking the Ghost Rider series. Mostly for the art, but it's a book I'm always happy to read every month. Moon Knight looks beautiful but the story's been spinning its wheels for a while. Those are really the two Marvel ongoings I'm into currently.
+--- 136744446
+>>136744101
+We all have our dark moments in life. some more than others. It's a part of existence. We do what we can to brighten that darkness with something. I don't know you. I don't know your story, but every life matters. Even the obnoxious ones. If 'gwenshizo' were to actually commit suicide, I'd mourn them. If whoever it is that has it out for MJ did it, I'd feel the same. Real people, like yourself, matter more than fictional ones. The fictional ones are just who we use to keep the darkness at bay. For me, it's the Osborns. For you, it's someone else. At the end of the day, though, you're the one who bleeds and hurts and goes through life's tribulations. It's tough facing the world, but we on 4chan are a community, as the other anon mentioned. We might not know each other, but we interact frequently in ways we never would if our names were known. Stay safe, Anon. Please get help if you need it. You matter.
+--- 136744471
+>>136744423
+I like both. Moon Knight is entertaining enough, and last issue really gave Tigra some justice (a rare thing for the character). Surprisingly, and this shocks even myself, Aaron's Punisher is alright. Chip's Daredevil is waning for me though.
+--- 136744484
+>>136743646
+Make an article.
+--- 136744504
+>>136744446
+Thanks, it's just been a bit a tough for me lately and spider-man used to be something that brought me joy and kept me going but it's just been helping to pile on that depression now.
+--- 136744514
+>>136743646
+Io9 get on it
+--- 136744549
+>>136744471
+I liked that last issue a lot. And I actually agree with you, Punisher is good. I know why people don't like it, but I have been enjoying it. It's too late for me to jump onto Daredevil. I've heard a lot of people say it's amazing, but not as many lately.
+--- 136744582
+>>136744286
+mind your autism
+--- 136744630
+>>136744582
+Sir this is 4chan.

co/136725883.txt

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+-----
+--- 136725883
+The Golden Age Hawkman Archives are hella expensive, and there don't appear to be any cheaper volumes in which DC has collected this stuff.
+
+The Golden Age stuff isn't on the DC Universe Infinite app. I can't find torrents of the Golden Age Hawkman comics. ReadComicsOnline only has the very first story in Flash Comics #1 and nothing past that.
+
+Where the fuck can I read this shit?
+--- 136727165
+i don't know?
+--- 136728586
+>>136725883 (OP)
+
+It's definitely on RCO, in varying quality, but what's got you interested in GA Hawkman anyway?
+--- 136728634
+>>136728586
+>but what's got you interested in GA Hawkman anyway?
+What kind of fuck question is this? I’m dead serious.
+--- 136728663
+DC is absolutely awful at keeping the large majority of their history available Golden Age comics get the worst of it. It's not just Hawkman, it's just about every comic outside of Batman and Superman. Your best option is usually hoping their is a scan of one of the few Archives available. These companies are horribly anti-consumer and they deserve to fail.
+
+>>136728586
+Probably because Kubert is better than your favorite artist.
+--- 136728849
+Here OP.
+--- 136728863
+>>136728849
+--- 136728882
+>>136728863
+--- 136728898
+>>136728882
+--- 136728915
+>>136728898
+--- 136728930
+>>136728915
+--- 136728948
+>>136728930
+--- 136728960
+>>136728948
+--- 136728978
+>>136728960
+--- 136728992
+>>136728978
+--- 136729008
+>>136728992
+--- 136729022
+>>136729008
+--- 136729570
+>>136728586
+I always liked the idea of the Golden Age origin better than the Silver Age origin, but I wanted to see what it was like when it started.
+
+There's some cool stuff. Like, he carries a mace today, but in the original stuff, he wasn't just a guy with a mace; his whole theme was using archaic weapons in general, so you see him with a halfstaff, a net, a bow-and-arrow, a slingshot, etc.
+
+And even though his first story gives his origin, unlike with Batman or Superman, they give him zero motivation for becoming Hawkman. He finds out he's reincarnated and immediately goes "welp, time to build some wings."
+
+And sometimes, he just knows stuff without the story explaining how.
+
+>>136728663
+I dunno, in the past, I had little trouble finding GA stuff. Wonder Woman, Sandman, The Spectre, etc. But then again, the Archives were still being printed and were just cover price instead of being sold for $100 each on eBay. So, that made it more available to buy, and made scans more available if you didn't want to buy (I actually supported them unless I couldn't find the material).
+--- 136729586
+>>136729570
+Well, you got the second story now, enjoy.
+--- 136729612
+>>136728849
+Thanks, friend
+--- 136729771
+Damn, Hawkman has his own bald Alex.
+
+Also, why didn't the ray work on him?
+--- 136729851
+early hawkman is traced from flash gordon and prince valiant, every other panel. it's painful to watch. i prefer the silver age version by kubert.
+--- 136729983
+>>136728978
+>shoot him in the arm, hurting him so bad he can't move
+>drag him into some dumb slow death trap to starve him to death over the next few days instead of just shooting him in the heart
+Actually literally WHY?
+--- 136730065
+>>136729771
+>Also, why didn't the ray work on him?
+
+>>136728960
+>The machine multiplies the atomic energy - and my metal has no such energy in its makeup!
+--- 136730195
+>>136728663
+>These companies are horribly anti-consumer and they deserve to fail.
+The vast majority of consumers aren't paying for this stuff because they have no interest in comics from before their grandparents were born, that weren't very good. That's just cold, hard facts unfortunately. Print just doesn't sell as much as it used to.
+--- 136730321
+>>136730065
+That only explains why the day doesn't work on his weapons. Not why it doesn't work on his body (he's not made of ninth metal, and it wasn't, like, bonded to his biology back then).
+
+Also, it doesn't explain why the ray was working on him while it was shining on him. For everything else in the story, the ray's effects last past the time it is actively shining on an object.
+--- 136730386
+>>136730321
+It DOES work on his body, that's why he needs Shiera to turn the machine off after Alexander puts his body on the floor and shines the ray on him.
+
+>>136730321
+>For everything else in the story, the ray's effects last past the time it is actively shining on an object.
+I think he just forgot to draw the ray in the panel where Alexander tries lifting the ping pong balls. The ray is always shining on the heavy object in all other panels.
+--- 136730511
+>>136730321
+It could've probably been explained a bit better in the story, but I think the intent is that since it works on his body, but not his wings, his wings are still able to lift the body and keep it upright even if his body's weight is increased. But they're not able to lift him from the floor when he's pinned down on top of them.
+--- 136730578
+>>136730195
+Of course print media is dying but there is absolutely nothing to prove that there is no interest in these comics. People are more into these characters and their history than ever. If DC did a good job cataloging and advertising and making their history available and it didn't sell you would have a point but that has never happened. The Bronze Age Bat comics are some of the best cape comics in history and DC has just been sitting on them for decades. Countless potential readers who grew up loving TAS or Nolan movies that were inspired by these comics but will never know they exist in 99% of cases or will pirate them in 1%. 
+
+DC no longer puts out their Golden / Silver / Bronze age omnibus books digitally because the guy whose job it was to make the digital transfers died and DC hasn't replaced him. That is not supply and demand, that is DC being a terribly managed company with no respect for its consumer base.
+--- 136731170
+>>136728663
+Kubert is my favourite artist. By the way, Kubert didn't do GA Hawkman until later on in thee run. Brave and the Bold is what you're likely referring to my friend
+--- 136731458
+>>136731170
+Yeah, these initial stories from Flash Comics 1-3 were Dennis Neville, one of Joe Shuster's ghosts at the time. They're actually the only solo stuff he did for DC, he ditched both Shuster and DC for Funnies Inc not too much later.
+--- 136731631
+One thing that's hilarious about Hawkman's first appearance is that he claims to have patterned his guise on Anubis, and even Hath-Set mistakes him for Anubis.
+
+Anubis wasn't the bird guy. That was Horus. Anubis was the dog guy.
+
+It's just funny how rife these factual errors are in a time before writers could just quickly Google something to make sure they got it right. Like, "who was the Egyptian bird fella again? My nephew is in school. Maybe I'll dial him up to ask him if I can borrow that encyclopedia of his. Aw shit, three days until my deadline… eh, I'm pretty sure it was Anubis or something."
+--- 136731785
+I like how supportive and helpful Shiera is, it's a very different relationship from what most superheroes had.
+--- 136731892
+>>136730321
+>>136730386
+>>136730511
+He also says he "has on a flexible meshwork of" ninth metal >>136728960
+
+Artist just forgot to draw it I guess. But it makes sense he's able to resist the ray decently enough if he's fully decked in lighter-than-air metal the ray doesn't have an effect on.
+--- 136732146
+>>136731785
+Yea Hawkman + Hawkgirl and Sandman + Dian both had more progressive relationships than we would see normally in comics until probably the Bronze Age.
+--- 136732649
+>>136731170
+Kubert was superclass
+--- 136733008
+>>136731785
+And then Kendra came along...
+--- 136733031
+>>136728586
+Hawkman is kewl
+--- 136733048
+>>136725883 (OP)
+DC didn't bother keeping it in print and there hasn't been enough of a Hawkman push in the last decade. I know he showed up in Black Adam and the Arrowverse but it wasn't enough for DC to go put the Archives back into print, or even put out a Golden Age Hawkman omnibus.
+
+Green Arrow never had an Archive Edition but he got an omnibus for his GA stuff probably because he headlined a show
+--- 136734686
+>>136732649
+This.
+--- 136734725
+>>136733008
+She can't escape the wet dreams.
+--- 136734975
+>>136730195
+Then why is there no digital edition? 
+
+See that's what makes no sense about it, I can believe them not wanting to put the effort into putting out an omnibus in print because of the costs, but it's not like they couldn't get it up into digital.
+
+Hell, they had the PD sites take down the Captain Marvel stuff that wasn't in copyright and then proceeded not to reprint anything. Do they even have any of the Golden Age Captain Marvel on the DC app? If not this was kind of stupid because there was probably way more attention to them when they were on the PD sites.
+--- 136736624
+>>136730578
+>>136734975
+Anon if there was a market they'd be printing it. Instead random manga get imported daily. No one cares what your great grandparents read.
+--- 136736861
+>>136731631
+No excuses, Bill Finger would’ve walked 3 miles to the library for the answer 
+In the snow uphill both ways!
+--- 136737022
+>>136736861
+After he died DC poked fun ar t Bill for that. They made a story about a writer who was so dedicated to research he ended up dying during a research trip and coming back as a ghost just to collect his check. Look up “ Phil Binger”
+--- 136737350
+>>136737022
+That story was the most mean-spirited and heartless thing DC ever published. It depicted Phil Binger as a lazy liar who never got around to writing stories but who constantly begged for advances. And this was published soon after Bill Finger died! Some tribute.
+--- 136737427
+>>136729851
+
+This was so common in Golden Age comics that naming swipes gets to be fun in itself. MLJ's strip The Shield stole so many Captain America ;poses by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby that you could make a scrapbook of Cap and the Shield in identical poses.
+It gets even funnier, Jack Burnley had a sleek polished art style, but he repeated the same five or six Starman poses in every story!
+--- 136737459
+>>136736624
+>Why is there no digital edition
+>Answers about print
+
+Maybe you have literacy issues?!
+--- 136737511
+>>136731631
+
+So true. Before Google, most comic artists kept a swipe file... cabinets filled of photos clipped out of magazines showing the Eiffel Tower, leopards,various cars and airplanes, celebrities. Many comic artists saved photos of athletes in action, particularly boxers, to use in fight scenes.
+--- 136737532
+>>136725883 (OP)
+Nobody liked him back in the golden age either. Few cared to archive his stuff.
+--- 136737558
+>>136732649
+
+Personally, I love his Enemy Ace strip about a German fighter pilot in WW I. Kubert put a lot of soul into it. Hans von Hammer, the Hammer of Hell.
+--- 136737621
+>>136737532
+
+Not true. Hawkman appeared in every issue (andf every alternating cover) of FLASH COMICS. He was the only JSA member to appear in every single issue of ALL-STAR COMICS. DC/All-Ameican wanted to try him in his own quarterly title but Shelley Moldoff couldn't fit it into his schedule.
+--- 136737639
+>>136729570
+Golden Age origin works for how Hawkman is presented. A guy that puts on fake wings and whacks guys with a mace.
+
+The Silver Age origin makes very little sense for an alien to dress up exactly the same way and also use old museum weapons. If they were going to make him an alien with a scifi origin, they might as well actually go the distance and make him a bird alien that uses scifi stuff. Why does an alien come to Earth, wear fake wings, wht does an alien with anti gravity technology need to bother wearing wings that do little anyway? (when he is already an alien, why not actually have regular wings for the whole species?) and why use a bunch of extra primitive Earth weapons? Why hang out on Earth at all?
+
+But as long as Hawkman is some normal ol guy that wears an antigravity belt and whacks people with a mace, there is no need to bother with anything other than Carter's origin for that.
+--- 136737682
+ReadComicsOnline does have a complete run of FLASH COMICS and ALL-STAR COMICS with the Hawkman stories. Unfortunately, the reproduction is a disgrace.
+--- 136737706
+>>136737639
+The wings are part of the alien police officer uniform on their planet
+--- 136737788
+>>136737639
+
+Yeah, the Silver Age DC editors were big on using science and aliens rather than magic for their heroes. Look at the difference between Alan Scott and Hal Jordan. Same with Hawkman. They wanted to keep the visual look of the characters and the use of ancient weapons... but the justification for it was weak. 
+I'm surprised they didn't bring back the earliest idea of Dr Fate using "lost science" rather than magic, to be honest.
+--- 136737837
+>>136731785
+I liked how Hawkman and Hawkgirl were an actual couple superheroing together. Normally the girl sidekick is just a cousin or someone else totally unrelated to the hero.
+--- 136737926
+We should add here that a blond prince of Egypt was entirely possible. The Ptolemy dynasty was found by a general of Alexander the Great,. Many northern Greeks (including Alexander himself) were blond and blue-eyed. The famous Cleopatra was descended from the Greeks and in fact was the first of her line to actually speak Egyptian.
+--- 136737981
+>>136737837
+
+Yeah, it's a great touch and very rare. Adam Strange and Alanna were another couple who had a normal healthy romance going on and who worked together. I guess the writers figured the 11 year old boys the comics were aimed at didn't lke that mushy stuff.
+--- 136738004
+The most noteworthy thing about GA Hawkman is being the most popular JSA leader and getting mogged by Kubert. Kubert is based.
+--- 136738111
+>>136737639
+It's weird to me how Flash, GL, and Atom got complete overhauls in the Silver Age but Hawkman had the same name, costume, and weapons. He just had a scifi origin but everything else was pretty much the same stuff as the Golden Age. And the updated costume really worked out in favor for GL, Flash, and Atom. Atom got a total overhaul in how he worked and his powers. 
+
+Hawkman could have definitely used a total revamp as well. Just giving him a gimmicky name was not really enough here. They could have even gone more Flash Gordon with him and make him come from some floating city of barbaric bird people like Vultan.
+--- 136738369
+What I wanna know is why didn't Hawkman take off those wings at JSA or JLA meetings? Wasn't he always knocking things over and bumping them into people. Imagine getting in an elevator with him and Hawkgirl.
+--- 136738453
+>>136738111
+
+I never thought about it but Hawk was the turning point on Golden Age revamps. Dr Fate, Spectre, Starman , Black Canary, Dr Mid-Nite and Hourmann kept their old costumes and civilian identities, too. Now I'm curious how Julius Schwartz and Murphy Anderson would have created a new Spectre. Maybe he would have been a living person from an adjoining dimension?
+--- 136738520
+>>136738004
+
+Love those Silver Age covers that made kids curious to find out what the heck was going on!
+
+Also, Kubert makes Superman taller and more muscular than Drv Fate and Alan Scott, nice touch/
+--- 136738826
+>>136738453
+Probably some kind of alien from a species that has ghost like powers when on Earth.
+--- 136738961
+>>136738369
+I spent too much time thinking about this. I think they should have had his wings rest on his shoulders like a cape (similar to gargoyles). Yeah it probably doesn't make a ton of sense physically but it's better than just knocking everything over . 
+but if the wings just come off than Hawkman is just a shirtless man
+--- 136739470
+>>136738961
+
+The movies now have everything folding up and disappearing when not needed.. masks, costumes, weapons. I can see why they do it. Actors want their faces to be seen and their fans want to see the faces, too. But it makes everything seem too insubstantial to suit me. I'd rather see Iron Man lift his visor than have the helmet fold up like clingwrap.
+Hawkman's wings could fold over one another, left over right, flat against his back. That would help. But these are comic books after all. When at JSA or JLA meetings, you'd expect the heroes too relax enough to take off those hoods and heavy gloves capes when among friends. Imagine Golden Age Sandman at a two hour JSA meeting in the summer wearing a business suit, gloves, cape, fedora and a freaking GAS MASK. Not too comfortable.
+--- 136739576
+>>136738826
+
+Yeah, that would make sense. You do wonder why the Atom was the last Golden Age hero to be revamped visually. A Fan from the 1940s would recognize Dr Fate or Starman in a 1960s comic but he 'd be puzzled at the Flash or Green Lantern. Hey, maybe it was that "Flash of Two Worlds" story that got Schwartz and Gardner Fox used to the old time heroes staying the way they were?
+--- 136739603
+>>136739470
+It's always interesting to me whenver its a plot point that these heroes DON'T know each other's identities, they're just meeting up mask on and everything.
+--- 136739732
+>>136739603
+
+As I recall, the JLA in the early 1960s stories didn't know each other identities (Superman and Batman excepted). When they did learn for some reason, Superman gave them all amnesia with some space rock. 
+I dunno, I can see some of the heroes not caring much and some being very private about their civilian lives. Same with the Avengers, in the early 1960s they didn't even know the Hulk was really Bruce Banner. Makes me wonder how on Earth they got security clearance from the NYPD or the military when no one even knows their real names.
+--- 136739997
+>>136728849
+I somewhat like those bad golden age scans, feels incredibly authentic.
+--- 136740138
+>Hawkman Thread?!
+Fuck YEAH!
+--- 136740161
+>>136740138
+--- 136740190
+>>136740161
+--- 136740209
+>>136740190
+--- 136741260
+>No one likes Hawkman on /co/
+Checks out
+--- 136741475
+>>136739997
+
+I had a big stack of 1940s comics. The cheap paper and poor reproduction was there when they were published. Lots of bleedthrough from the next page and bits of color sticking past the characters' outlines. And of course there was the yellowing over time and the very distinctive musty odor of old pulp paper. (Whenever I go in a used bookstore. I get all nostalgic.)
+--- 136741514
+>>136741260
+
+Well, /co/ has demonstrably poor taste. Most of the posts are about underage cartoon girls or complaining how bad all comics are.
+--- 136741705
+Now, I like Gardner Fox just fine. Aside from the impressive list of classic characters he created, Fox turned out thousands of whacky, imaginative stories with complicated jigsaw-puzzle plots and great hooks to draw the reader in. His characterization and dialogue were not strong points, but adequate; sometimes he threw in a small aside that gave the characters unexpected quirks. However, decade after decade, Fox insisted on taking a small obscure scientific fact and misusing it quite cheekily in a story. He must have know most of the gimmicks he came up with couldn't conceivably work, but hey.. if they sold an issue and entertained a reader, that was enough. Here, in "Earth's Impossible Day" (from THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD# 44, November 1962), he has Katar Hol trying to pull our legs. The idea is that fulgurites -- those small tubes of fused quartz created by lightning strikes -- still somehow have some of that lightning stored in them...!
+--- 136741723
+>>136741705
+--- 136741802
+>>136728663
+The main reason DC is so shit at reprinting this stuff is until 1948 nobody at the company even thought of keeping the negatives for the comics, or even copies of the proofs. Therefore every reprint proyect with material older than that has to be restored from scratch from an old copy, which is really expensive and looks like shit. Shit, for properties from editorials they bought they don't even have comic books to get the stories from- they don't have the vast mayority of the Captain Marvel books in their library for example, or Plastic Man.
+Of course if they really cared about the artform in the slightest they could make it work but there's not nearly enough interest for it to make a profit.
+--- 136741981
+>>136741802
+Its not even regulated to old runs. I hated the restoration job on Ostrander's Suicide Squad vol 1
+--- 136742220
+>>136741802
+
+All sadly true. Up until the mid-1960s, comic books were seen as disposable entertainment,. Very few arts wanted the originals back, they had no use for them. Only a small number of fans (who people thought were nuts) actually collected and kept old comics. This all changed with fanzines in the early 1960s, high school and college kids starting to read comics, and some profit seen in reprints and in selling original art.
+--- 136742462
+Does Hawkman have an memorable villains?
+--- 136743234
+>>136729022
+
+That original Hawkman helmet is so goofy.
+--- 136744025
+>>136738369
+It's not like he needs to wear them indoors anyway. They are not even what makes him fly. When you think about it, the Hawk theme is kind of meaningless. His main shtick is his whole reincarnation and skills from past lives angle. Nth Metal is good for a lot of uses and for weapons and armor too. But the wings are really secondary to him. 
+
+I would either make the wings an actual part of his body or drop them. It's not like they are a requirement for bird themed heroes anyway. Hawk, Dove, Robin, Blackhawk, Raven, and Black Canary don't have wings.
+--- 136744512
+>>136744025
+
+It should be better known that DC's Hawkman was a complete swipe of the Hawkmen from Alex Raymond's FLASH GORDON (both the newspaper strip and the 1936 serial). Big grey hawk wings, pants and boots but a bare chest, winged helmets, using spears and swords.. It's hard to deny. Gardner Fox claimed he invented the DC character after watching a hawk snatch up a twig but I don't blame him;l legal reasons kept him from saying, Sure it was a Flash Gordon steal, what do you think?
+--- 136744569
+>>136744512
+
+Here's the live-action Hawkman. Maybe Carter Hall went one Saturday morning to see the serial and got the funniest Deja Vu.
+--- 136744655
+>>136744569
+And it gets wilder. Here's some flying Batmen from the 1936 DARKEST AFRICA, two years before DC Batman, four years before Hawkman,.

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+-----
+--- 136727050
+Bump if you're reading.
+--- 136727193
+And that's it. If you liked this, support your LCS or whatever.
+--- 136727457
+>>136727089
+Heh
+--- 136727664
+This art is ugly
+--- 136727743
+>>136727072
+Did Superman steal a Robin?
+--- 136727835
+Why is everyone constantly blushing?
+--- 136727967
+Do people really like Waid now? Will Titans be good or be like every other Titans comic?
+--- 136728013
+>>136727967
+I always liked how Waid writes, regardless of how weird he is as a person.
+And the new Titans book is by Taylor, so stinker guaranteed.
+--- 136728963
+>>136727143
+Mark Waid and World's Finest is the greatest justification for bringing back the old continuity. Most modern writers are hacks who cram shitty interpolations of Grant Morrison ideas into their twitter-inspired fanwank. Waid actually wants to use the 70 years of comic history they just restored. Who else would remember Loren Jupiter was the world's richest man for most of the 70s?
+--- 136729094
+>>136727050
+>Bump if you're reading.
+--- 136729242
+>>136728013
+He means Mark Waid's Teen Titans book. It's a second World's Finest title also set in the late silver/early bronze age
+--- 136729683
+>>136727664
+>>136727835
+I like the lines, but yeah the colors... Thanks for dumping OP.
+--- 136730171
+>>136727062
+Mora is basically just Capullo but draws Bruce less like a Disney character
+--- 136730304
+Thanks for storytiming
+I enjoyed it
+--- 136730438
+>>136727167
+Creepy
+--- 136730965
+>>136727664
+you blind
+--- 136731310
+>>136728013
+>regardless of how weird he is as a person 
+
+What did Waid do? I see anons alluding to some incident from just a few years ago where they apparently turned on Waid, but what is wrong with him?
+--- 136731325
+>>136727967
+>Do people really like Waid now?
+Waid is usually appreciated: he had a few stinkers over the years(mostly writing kids) but most of his stuff is at worst mediocre and most often decent-to-good
+--- 136731355
+The art looks rushed. It feels like Mora is overstraining himself
+--- 136731365
+>>136727094
+Superman and Robin look like the ambiguosly gay duo here
+--- 136731378
+>>136731355
+What else is he working on concurrently?
+--- 136731395
+>>136728963
+Waid actually read those comics
+--- 136731406
+>>136727967
+His current output is probably the best DC has right now.
+--- 136731422
+>>136731310
+He's full blown leftard on twitter
+--- 136731523
+>>136731378
+Tmnt/power rangers and shazam
+--- 136731811
+>>136727050
+Who is that dude?
+--- 136731835
+>>136727072
+Kek
+--- 136732470
+Bump
+--- 136733218
+>>136731811
+Doc Dread
+--- 136733499
+>>136727050
+Hell yeah I'm readin muthafucka
+--- 136733541
+>>136731406
+This, sadly, and it's at its very best a 4/10.
+--- 136733642
+>>136733541
+>and it's at its very best a 4/10.
+
+4/10 would be his 2010s Marvel work. This is better than that
+--- 136733702
+>>136733541
+Sometimes I think you guys just hate comics.
+--- 136733721
+>>136727967
+>Do people really like Waid now?
+people have always liked waid, he just had a pretty bad stint of writing garbage, like champions.
+--- 136733815
+>>136733702
+Ignore the contrarians, they are paid in pizza combos to talk shit.
+--- 136734080
+>>136727149
+kissable
+--- 136734103
+>>136727094
+Now someone edit it to be Tim and Jon
+--- 136734144
+>>136727046 (OP)
+>Not even one female character for Dan More to draw.
+They did this on purpose, didn't they
+--- 136734225
+>>136734144
+This one is for the sisters.
+--- 136734240
+>>136733721
+There was that controversy half a decade ago about him in some pissing match with some grifter people kept shilling
+--- 136734257
+No supergirl no read
+--- 136734291
+>>136733642
+It's probably worse than that, but I've never read it.
+>>136733702
+I hate shit comics. Especially when they get nonstop praise.
+>>136733815
+It's called honesty.
+--- 136734299
+To the people who dislike this, why?
+What's wrong with it?
+--- 136734355
+>>136734291
+Sounds like hyperbole to me but ok
+--- 136734376
+>>136734144
+>Not even one female character for Dan More to draw.
+Bro, Platinum is right there bro.
+--- 136734417
+>>136727080
+Mora draws ridiculously handsome/cute men
+--- 136734551
+>>136727072
+Dick is the real star of this series and I'm perfectly fine with this.
+--- 136734633
+>>136734299
+It's just boring and the dialogue is cringe. Some characters, like Batman, are lame in this run. The villainy is shit, and the references mean nothing to me. There's also a little gayface going on. No stakes, no fun, nothing worthwhile.
+--- 136734683
+>>136727967
+Waid's missteps were ANAD Avengers and Champions but after that he's been solid. Even the best writers have a few blemishes on their resume.
+--- 136734698
+>>136734299
+There's one anon that shows up in any thread about Mora's art to complain about it. Says the same thing and is usually the only person.
+--- 136734794
+>>136734240
+using your connections to get someone you disagree with's publishing deal terminated, and then spending years doing everything in your power to stretch out the lawsuit that was brought against until the person with less money has to drop it is scumbag behavior. but waid being a retarded scumbag has been known for years even before that. despite how it might look people on this board are generally capable of ignoring that stuff if the comics they make are quality, but if you are releasing bad comics people will shit on you twice as hard for your dumb real life actions. waid is releasing good comics currently and he has kept his autism in check to not cause any controversy lately.
+--- 136735213
+>>136731365
+--- 136735226
+>>136735213
+>leg lock
+lewd
+--- 136735230
+>>136733541
+your mom is a 4/10
+--- 136735934
+>>136727193
+Thanks OP
+--- 136735965
+>>136734698
+Mora's art is the only good thing about it.
+>>136735230
+Yours is a 1/10. Stinky ass bitch. I almost died.
+--- 136736317
+>>136735965
+Mora's art is not good
+--- 136737374
+>>136727050
+Bumpin
+--- 136739657
+bumpan
+--- 136739826
+>>136736317
+What makes you say that?
+--- 136740028
+>>136727193
+Thanks OP. Good issue.
+--- 136740220
+>>136734080
+Shear perfection. How does Dan Mora do it? Or is it Tamra Bonvillain's colors that put it all together?
+--- 136740818
+>>136727967
+I love this run, his cap was good too. He lost his mind (more than before lol) around the 2016 election and wrote some wack shit for marvel but he’s cooled out since the lawsuit shit - or at least just shut the fuck up publicly.
+
+His titans will be shit though, I don’t like modernizations. Though his Shazam could be good.
+--- 136740855
+>>136733541
+Nah this is easily 7-8 range most issues. You’re just being a faggot to fit in. That said no other comic is better than a 5
+--- 136740899
+>>136734299
+It’s genuinely people from competing agencies that are trying to push their clients and subvert others.
+
+This goes back to bendis’ agency destroying suoerman/action/super sons threads before his arrival and happens pretty regularly
+--- 136740935
+>>136734633
+If Batman is lame in this you better not try to tell me you’ve enjoyed a Batman solo or detective issue since before 2011
+--- 136741371
+>>136734299
+>What's wrong with it?
+
+Nothing. It's fun and has good art.
+--- 136741790
+>>136740899
+actual schitzo
+--- 136741811
+>>136741790
+You can’t even spell, poo. Anyone who’s been here for more than a few days can see this shit plain as day.
+--- 136741924
+>>136736317
+Actually, I agree.
+--- 136743014
+Bump.
+--- 136743195
+>>136740935
+Batman fizzled out for me with Morrison's run. I haven't cared about anything since.
+--- 136744416
+bump

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+-----
+--- 136727272
+Bump if you're reading.
+--- 136727435
+And that's it. If you liked this, support your LCS or whatever.
+--- 136727679
+this art is gross
+--- 136727762
+>>136727679
+Writing too. Two more issues and then our girls are finally free. Who do we want to relaunch a Batgirls book? I would like to see Marjorie Liu take a crack at it. I liked her X-23 back in the day, she could write a good Cass, but she'd never agree to it lmao.
+--- 136727788
+>>136727762
+He's in every story time thread saying the same thing. Ignore the fag and move on.
+--- 136727798
+>>136727762
+They won't relaunch it because Cass and Steph are never that lucky, but Mariko Tamaki wrote a good Cass in the Asian hero special and a good Steph in the Two-Face one-shot, so she would be a good choice. Alyssa Wong also writes a good Cass, don't know about her Steph though.
+--- 136727818
+The fact that this book didn't start getting serious and treating Cass and Steph seriously until it was too late is my villain origin story.
+--- 136727894
+>>136727788
+sorry most modern artists are lazy hacks
+--- 136727909
+>>136727762
+a Dixon fan
+--- 136727917
+>>136727894
+Post your art then.
+--- 136727951
+>>136727798
+Tamaki's Steph was actually decent, but I don't think I liked Wong's Cass if I remember correctly. She wrote the Batwoman/Cass story in Urban Legends right?
+--- 136727972
+>>136727951
+Yeah, and the Cass/Orca story in the DC Halloween special from a few years back. And for the upcoming Spirit World mini.
+
+The only problem I had with the Batwoman/Cass story was ignoring that Cass doesn't like Batwoman.
+--- 136728155
+>>136727972
+Ah yes I remember now, that drove me crazy! I was hoping they would adress the Batwoman/Cass feud, but nope nothing. Maybe Wong didn't know shit about the characters, but the editors should be aware of their history
+--- 136728395
+gaying soon
+--- 136728469
+>>136727278
+Kyle looks cool here.
+And Maps is fencing? Sounds cool!
+--- 136728483
+>>136727328
+I find kind of funny how, of all the things they have gone through as heroes, the one thing that seems to get to them the most is a mere shooter.
+--- 136728791
+I hope at least this book gets a conclusive ending. Sad that it's ending soon.
+--- 136728801
+>>136727356
+>>136727363
+>>136727369
+A little too on the nose with the message, if you ask me.
+--- 136728818
+>>136727369
+Says the vigilante who goes out to beat people every night.
+--- 136729289
+>>136728818
+>vigilantes clad head to toe in next-gen body armor with extensive combat training and packing enough weaponry to easily kill a roomful of people backed by a billion dollar corporation, clandestine police support, and a private intelligence apparatus that don't give a shit about things like "human rights" demand people meekly submit to the mass murders that occur daily
+Anti self defense messages are weird enough in cape books, but are flat out insulting coming from the Gotham crew.
+--- 136729433
+>>136728483
+It makes some sense. Superheroes are reactive, and seek out villains in it for the attention and spectacle. A sniper works the exact opposite, dome someone in the head from 800 yards out, be long gone before anyone can react, and any taunting or spectacle is delivered after the fact.
+--- 136729966
+Now that Batgirls is cancelled, what went wrong? How would you fix it?
+--- 136730018
+>>136727268 (OP)
+I love Batgirls!
+--- 136730231
+>>136729966
+We've been through this a lot, but the book limped out of the gate with plots directly linked to a failed event, poor characterization, poor balance of character use, uninteresting villains, inconsistent art, tonal issues, and overbearing narration.
+--- 136730278
+>>136727788
+More like there are shills in every storytime of every shitty comic. 
+I can't imagine defending any of this awful crap without getting paid.
+--- 136730319
+>>136730278
+How is saying "now this run is finally ending I hope it can be relaunched with a better writer" shilling? It's a tacit admission the book sucks.
+--- 136730717
+>>136727272
+Bump
+--- 136730997
+>>136727917
+>>136727788
+Dude are you high? Why are you acting defensive about Rodriguez's art of all things? That guy's art is awful, that's nothing new
+--- 136731473
+>>136727972
+>The only problem I had with the Batwoman/Cass story was ignoring that Cass doesn't like Batwoman.
+the reason she dislike Batwoman might have been retconned away though
+
+>>136730231
+>overbearing narration.
+the book improved MASSIVELY when they did away with the excessive narration.
+
+aside that, the tl:dr is "started with trying too hard to be Quirky Young Adult Grills plus inconsistent art not rendering action scenes always well, corrected course way too late"
+--- 136731507
+>>136729289
+The worst part about every writer coming from the same deranged social group is that the audience is subjected to their unceasing sermons. There's a reason nobody buys this shit.
+--- 136731570
+>>136731473
+More like "Quirky Young Adult Girl, her retarded blonde bestie, and the weird spinster mother who lives with them."
+--- 136731755
+>>136727435
+>One for each
+>batgirl
+>Three Bullets
+Who doxxed Babs this time?
+--- 136732375
+>>136731570
+>weird spinster mother
+change it to "spinster AUNT" and it's pretty much perfect
+--- 136732576
+>>136727283
+x men evolution dance ?
+--- 136732901
+>>136727679
+>this art is gross
+--- 136732958
+>>136727268 (OP)
+Quirky female writers were a mistake
+--- 136732973
+>>136727309
+Do they really need to stop and change clothes during every emergency? This guy could be bleeding to death while they're buck naked in a back alley straightening their capes.
+--- 136733007
+>>136731755
+If only their prior foes hadn't included a sniper and a hacker who knows their personal identities.
+--- 136733039
+>>136732958
+>Quirky 
+Men can do it too sadly. Imo it was Matt Fraction who first started the trend with his quirky Hawkeye comic.
+--- 136733056
+>>136728483
+>>136729433
+And yet this series started out with them taking on a sniper with robot armor, his two robot army mans and a robot dog and they beat them all no problem.
+--- 136733077
+>>136729289
+I can kinda understand steph being so hard against guns because she did just die to a gun 
+Also they are right that the guns the angels are selling wouldn't do jack to a sniper
+--- 136733089
+>>136733056
+Those guys were focused solely on the girls. This new sniper is trying to hurt innocents
+--- 136733244
+>>136733077
+Maybe not to a sniper, but it's fucking Gotham.
+--- 136733390
+>>136733244
+Guns are useless in gotham. You gonna take down the joker with a gun? Take down a giant vine with a gun? Take down a dummy shooting at you with a gun with a gun?
+--- 136733394
+>>136728791
+Bette you little shit I fuckin' love you.
+--- 136733452
+>>136733089
+>This new sniper is trying to hurt innocents
+You know who else was innocents? 
+My mother and father walking me out of that theater into the back alley on that cold dark night ...
+--- 136733467
+>>136733390
+>You gonna take down the joker with a gun?
+....
+Yes?
+He's a clown not a fucking Kryptonian.
+--- 136733480
+>>136732958
+>>136733039
+Quirky writers were a mistake.
+--- 136733558
+>>136733390
+Shoot any one of the dozens of Joker goons.
+--- 136733576
+>>136733467
+He already snuck in your house at night and rigged your gun so it shoots a gotcha flag backwards into your face
+--- 136733817
+>>136727283
+Gross
+--- 136733852
+Steph and Cass are smelly NEETs
+--- 136734012
+>>136733852
+What do their feet smell like after a busy night in spandex?
+--- 136734071
+Babs is still MIA from the looks of things.
+--- 136734475
+>>136733852
+--- 136735376
+>>136727268 (OP)
+Bump
+--- 136735718
+>>136734071
+She's off flexing on Starfire in Nightwing ATM
+--- 136736013
+>>136732375
+Pretty early on they were pushing the "mom" thing, with her, and her being the sort of uncool mom over-concerned and worrying about her kids
+--- 136736550
+>>136732973
+>Buck naked except for their capes that they put on first 
+Woah mamma
+--- 136736638
+>No Helena 
+Don't know if I should be glad or mad.
+--- 136736826
+>>136736638
+Helena never called herself Batgirl, though.
+--- 136736936
+>>136736826
+But she is the Big Bat's little girl (sometimes)
+--- 136737153
+>>136736936
+Oh that Helena, she doesn’t exist here yet.
+--- 136738219
+>>136727798
+>Mariko Tamaki wrote a good Cass in the Asian hero special and a good Steph in the Two-Face one-shot, so she would be a good choice. Alyssa Wong also writes a good Cass, don't know about her Steph though.
+The absolute state of batgirlfags
+--- 136738275
+> no Gunhawk or Gun Bunny just the Saint that got away.
+
+Huh. I'm a bit surprised.
+--- 136739077
+>>136738219
+Would she be as hated if not for the chubby Starfire daughter book?
+--- 136739276
+Bump
+--- 136740262
+Meh book.
+--- 136740500
+Bump.
+--- 136741196
+>>136735718
+It’s kind of sad how many people got upset over this panel.
+--- 136741242
+>>136741196
+I mean, Babs is probably not even in top-100 fighters
+--- 136741381
+>>136741196
+Babs will not be satisfied until she has stolen Steph's personality and Cass's skills.
+
+(I really don't care, but it is some weird "building up Babs when she's never really been known as a particularly strong fighter" stuff.)
+--- 136743051
+>>136741381
+She certainly wasn't as bad as Kelley Puckett pushed she was.
+--- 136743652
+>>136741381
+Babs was considered a perfectly competent and capable fighter capable of keeping up with Batman and Robin throughout her original Batgirl tenure.
+--- 136744026
+>>136741242
+I get that she definitely doesn’t stack up against someone like Cass, but the way people are reacting make it seem as if she’s an incompetent fighter, which is far from the truth.
+--- 136744042
+>>136741196
+They were just being nice to Dick's girlfriend who tagged along.
+--- 136744212
+>>136743652
+It's just a really weird thing to say about her. She's in the bottom portion of the batfam and not noteworthy at all in the greater dc universe as far as hand to hand combat goes. She's a crafty nerd that barely survives encounters with competent fighters
+--- 136744358
+>>136744212
+She does just fine against competent fighters. The idea that Babs is a shitty fighter literally comes from Puckett's weird hateboner for her and nowhere else. I'll agree that she's on the lower end of the Batfamily, but we're still talking about people who regularly take on multiple skilled opponents at a time and win.
+--- 136744456
+>>136744212
+bro they're just being complementary to each other to ease a nervous little girl, not going through DCU power rankings. In a large scale Babs is one of the world's strongest fighters, even if that's just in a list of 200,that's still in notable percentage above most of the world.
+--- 136744459
+>>136727272
+I don't buy gookgirl books because they're shit and will just get canceled
+--- 136744495
+>>136729966
+>Shit characters like gookgirl and used goods whore appearing at all
+>No Babs focus
+>Teenager-oriented writing
+>Shit art
+--- 136744520
+>>136744212
+t. Assblasted gookgirl faggot
+Chew on glass and swallow it

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@@ -0,0 +1,990 @@
+-----
+--- 136727652
+>John K started a patreon
+>$20 tier
+>Only 8 pledges
+Is his career truly over now?
+--- 136727892
+>>136727652 (OP)
+>No NSFW content
+--- 136727930
+>>136727652 (OP)
+Give me one (1) reason you’d give money to John K in 2023
+--- 136727961
+>>136727930
+Cans without Labels 2: Soup Boogaloo
+--- 136727978
+>>136727930
+So I get 10% off these shower curtains
+--- 136728007
+Not paying $20 a month when his blog is free
+--- 136728090
+Why would you expect him to make anything after those accusations?
+--- 136728158
+>>136727652 (OP)
+>is his career over
+
+Yes? How many people over 40 are still working in this dying industry? This ain't like the early 90s when you had people who worked on the Golden Age Disney and Warner cartoons doing tv animation into their 80s. They don't make a lot of cartoons these days and the ones they do make are ultra-low effort and cheap and don't require much in the way of artists.
+--- 136728294
+>>136727652 (OP)
+What cartoonist did better by opening a patreon for comparison
+Manchild tries to talk finances, typical 
+>>136727930
+Cringe
+>>136727978
+Those are some great shower curtains
+>>136728090
+He's not a loser who gives up, as ironically Katie Rice has
+--- 136728352
+>>136728158
+most industry veterans who're still active work in feature animation these days
+--- 136728461
+>>136727652 (OP)
+Not to defend JohnK, but how long has this patreon been running that it only has 8 followers?
+If it started yesterday, then 8 followers probably isn't surprising for a brand new patreon.
+If it's been running for weeks or months, well, that's something different.
+--- 136728472
+The John K "fans who believed the BuzzFeed stories" community has proven to care more about pleasing the mainstream than anything else. Most of the real fans probably just gave up on the animation community pretty quick back in the 00s instead of pretending to vaguely dissent while watching anime.
+
+A good environment for real fans needs to be actively constructed
+>>136728352
+Not like you can tell by watching the movies.
+--- 136728475
+>>136728461
+Yesterday
+--- 136728589
+I find it truly incredible that these "fans" had the opportunity to express sympathy for what happened to a young John k fan but instead would rather support trolls from this board. I haven't trusted any of these supposed animation appreciators because I can expect them to have this sort of personality. And so in the new animation cultures to be formed such personalities must not be tolerated
+
+>>136728461
+They have the kind of financial awareness you can expect from people who spend their time in children's fandoms in adulthood.
+--- 136728735
+>>136728475
+8 followers since yesterday is nothing.
+If it still has 8 followers a month from now, then that's tragic and you can make a thread gloating about his demise.
+Anything else, I think, is premature.
+--- 136728874
+>>136728352
+most industry veterans are teachers now. but yes, the few who are still active work in features. I mean, they'd have to.
+--- 136728922
+>>136727652 (OP)
+Is John K ever gonna "make" something ever again after Cans Without Labels?
+--- 136728945
+>>136727652 (OP)
+Hamuletta please just fuck off instead of samefagging this badly. This shit is embarrassing.
+--- 136729006
+>>136728945
+Is this Birchy/Boil/Kuckyweck/Augie Dogie's new identity?
+--- 136729108
+>>136727652 (OP)
+Was it not before? The guy's major claim to fame was barely 1 season of a show he was kicked off of like 30 years ago.
+--- 136729134
+>45 minutes
+Later than I'd expected.
+--- 136729166
+>>136728922
+He makes some great drawings like these
+>>136728945
+>>136729006
+Shut up and stop spamming
+>>136729108
+He has defined the past 30 years of animation
+--- 136729191
+>>136729166
+turn your name back on.
+Unless you're too embarrassed to stand by your statements.
+--- 136729271
+>>136729166
+I was asking everyone but you
+--- 136729340
+>>136729134
+>>136729191
+Shut your mouth. I also see the reason why you were so cocky, "fans" like spumdonor would rather take your side than genuinely critique the animation industry. But they don't love you boil, they would rather take the side of the craps that industry people put in their toilets than become socially unacceptable
+>>136729271
+I do not care, I'm not a kid on the internet who's going to weep because the random loser doesn't want to be his friend.
+--- 136729463
+I’d pity him, but his own arrogance was his downfall.
+--- 136729487
+>>136727652 (OP)
+Is that the lowest tier? If so, fuck right off.
+--- 136729705
+>it's just 8 guy alts
+top kek
+--- 136729738
+>>136729705
+guy doesn't have money
+--- 136729846
+>>136728007
+Expect him to paywall the entire thing eventually
+--- 136730202
+guy is an unrecognized artist
+--- 136730244
+>>136727978
+This is not worth paying 20 dollars a month for.
+>>136728294
+>>136728472
+>>136728589
+>>136729166
+>>136729340
+Fucking get a life that doesn't revolve around sucking John K's dick.
+--- 136730265
+Dude has a shit reputation and who would want to give him anything after can without labels? You don't get anything valuable in return
+--- 136730298
+John K is animations biggest has been. Ren and Stimpy was a fun cartoon but it isn't the stand out cartoon people pretend it is.
+
+I would argue his biggest contribution to animation would be working to turn Flash into a program usable for animators.
+--- 136730331
+>>136728472
+>A good environment for real fans needs to be actively constructed
+No one would be good enough for a community by your standards guy, you even hate the John K respecter
+--- 136730427
+>>136730331
+I don't know if it's possible for John K fans to have a good community. I imagine the first slew of comments would all mention the allegations and asking John to clarify things.
+--- 136730476
+>>136730427
+>I imagine the first slew of comments would all mention the allegations and asking John to clarify things
+As they should
+--- 136730516
+>>136730393
+That poster wasn't guy THOUGH, he actually admitted that John K had some kind of fault and didn't suggest he was a Christ figure
+--- 136730550
+>>136730393
+>>136730516
+Ya I'm not Guy and John K did work with Flash to make it the program it is today. That's an actual fact.
+--- 136730554
+>>136730516
+My bad, just trying to post guyjak in every opportunity i got
+--- 136730885
+What is Ren and Stimpy? I looked the cartoon up and it looks like a cross between Spongebob and the Looney Tunes cartoons.
+--- 136730934
+>>136729487
+Lul you dumb kids
+>>136728007
+It's still a much better deal than the animation schools.
+>>136730244
+This is my life, my life revolves around art and has since birth. And you're obviously a jealous animation student if you reject his gift of cheap education.
+
+What John did for me is so powerful that his "fans" refuse to acknowledge the art projects I came up with when his blog was active. Only a few good ones have acknowledged them
+>>136730298
+Again, he's still the basis of the industry
+>>136730331
+He never cared about John, or kids, or the art. He only cared about nostalgia, vaguely conservative impulses, as well as looking "based" without truly embracing what that means
+--- 136731018
+>>136730427
+>>136730476
+That's not scary, none of the believers in those allegations have addressed my own stories which involve wrongdoing when I was 15. John was never actually accused of a crime against 15-year-olds, people keep saying that because I had a horrible experience starting at 15.
+>>136730516
+You obviously haven't read my articles
+>>136730885
+Ren and Stimpy inspired SpongeBob
+--- 136731104
+>John K thread
+>Guy shits up the thread because he has genuine schizophrenia 
+>Gets told to go away
+>Turns off his name so people don't recognize him
+>But he still has the same tell-tale pattern so everyone knows it's him
+
+There's more to life than this
+--- 136731120
+why do i keep voluntarily entering these threads despite knowing exactly what goes on here
+--- 136731129
+>>136730934
+>as well as looking "based" without truly embracing what that means
+What does it mean to be "based"?
+--- 136731162
+>>136731104
+It would all stop if others stop replying to him
+--- 136731184
+>>136731129
+Synonym for "rebellious" or "edgy".
+--- 136731196
+>>136731184
+I asked guy, not you.
+--- 136731208
+>>John K thread
+>>Guy shits up the thread because he has genuine schizophrenia
+>>Gets told to go away
+>>Turns off his name so people don't recognize him
+>>But he still has the same tell-tale pattern so everyone knows it's him
+
+>There's more to life than this
+--- 136731218
+>>136728294
+>What cartoonist did better by opening a patreon for comparison
+better than 8 patrons?
+You should probably ask who did worse
+--- 136731223
+>>136731162
+No it wouldn't, He mass replies to everyone in every thread he's in, even when no one's talking to him
+we could all ignore him for a whole year but he'd still be here to praise John K while proving his severe lack of knowledge on the animation industry and how animation works because he's a genuine Schizophrenic with seemingly nothing better to do like most trolls and schizo's on this site
+--- 136731259
+I want John K to have sex with my wife.
+--- 136731405
+>>136731018
+SpongeBob has little in common with Ren and Stimpy
+--- 136731450
+>>136731405
+not him but being inspired by something can result in a completely different thing, spongebob got the grossup closeups from ren and stimpy among other things
+--- 136731453
+>>136727652 (OP)
+Those 8 patreons will save animation in the future.
+--- 136731462
+>>136731405
+>>136731450
+Plus if you look at modern SpongeBob it's clear that the current direction is inspired heavily by Ren & Stimpy, especially how often they go off-model.
+--- 136731489
+>>136731462
+I heard that a ton of current spongebob staff were former spumco people but idk how true that is
+--- 136731517
+>>136731489
+the current showrunner is vincent waller, who used to be on spumco
+--- 136731618
+I'm trans btw
+--- 136731657
+>>136731104
+Shut up manchild. I'm not afraid of people recognizing me, if you idiots read my articles you would actually understand me for the first time and you would also actually see what my philosophy involving John K is
+(Shut up)
+
+I was anonymous for years while attempting to inspire the world for an artistic Revolution
+>>136731120
+No one cares
+>>136731129
+Not going to try to explain it around all these trolls
+>>136731218
+You're just embarrassing yourself as an overgrown child who participates in cartoons out of a never-ending adolescent rebellion
+>>136731405
+No one cares about Rocko
+--- 136731704
+>>136731657
+Just because your Twitter butt buddies don’t talk about Rocko doesn’t mean nobody cares about it.
+--- 136731720
+Guy's annoying as shit but after reading his scattered account of his upbringing I can't in good conscience egg him on
+He's been seriously mentally ill for a long time and was actively denied help by his parents the same way CWC was denied help.
+I'm well aware his recollection probably skips anything that was ever his fault but either way his life is a tragedy and I just wish he could see the benefits of seeking real help
+--- 136731744
+>>136731657
+>Not going to try to explain it around all these trolls
+Well ignore the trolls and explain it for me.
+--- 136731771
+>>136731618
+screenshotted :v)
+--- 136731786
+>>136730298
+John isn't just the biggest has-been in animation, I think he genuinely has left the industry in a worse state than it has been beforehand on the long-term.
+--- 136731817
+>>136727936
+--- 136731855
+>>136731817
+>guy also banged a family member
+I don't believe you
+The parallels to CWC can't go that deep
+--- 136731883
+>>136731855
+Great minds think alike.
+--- 136731897
+>>136729271
+Looks like that snippet from Kyle's comic came in handy sooner rather than later.
+--- 136731978
+>>136731883
+No, I mean I literally don't believe you
+That's a bridge too far for coincidence
+--- 136731979
+>>136729705
+Guy's current 'employment' is doing rounds between substack, twitter and /co/, with spare time spent on sending threats to people who work in animation industry. I'm not sure this leaves him with disposable income.
+--- 136732011
+>>136731657
+We’ve read your articles and we just don't care. We genuinely don't like you.
+--- 136732015
+>>136731453
+Prove it
+--- 136732029
+>>136727652 (OP)
+that's a little steep.
+--- 136732034
+>>136731104
+>Guy shits up the thread
+Half of John K threads are made for the sole sake of baiting guy and rattling his cage. Think of it as an in-board containment.
+--- 136732036
+>>136731657
+>>136731704
+Rocko is the reason I work at Nick. That was my influential show. I met Joe on a couple occasions sand he is the nicest guy. He wrote the best book on creating a show.
+--- 136732064
+>>136728922
+I ask myself this a lot. Is cans without labels really the last hurrah? Is it? Will he have one more trick up his sleeve or just become that old guy who draws? 
+He could try making people pay for classes and lectures online, that could work.
+--- 136732068
+>>136728007
+this. he's pretty much already given away all worthwhile advice he's going to give for free.
+--- 136732070
+>>136732034
+He has the moral high ground.
+--- 136732073
+>>136731786
+Agreed. He is actually the reason showrunners are paid less now and have less influence on their own shows compared to the network executives.
+--- 136732081
+>>136732034
+>>136731979
+At a certain point you're no better than kiwifarms
+This person needs help
+--- 136732089
+>>136732036
+What book is that?
+--- 136732112
+>>136727930
+He's a convicted child groomer. Maybe he can give you some tips
+--- 136732115
+>>136732089
+This is valuable information if you want to make cartoons.
+--- 136732139
+>>136731405
+This. Spongebob is actually successful and the show influenced 2 generations so far
+--- 136732181
+>>136727652 (OP)
+>20 dollars can get me a lot of nacho fries
+Better to feed myself than John K
+--- 136732183
+>>136732036
+>>136732115
+I love his writings on his blog. I'll have to check his book out. He seems like a great guy.
+--- 136732190
+>>136732112
+>convicted
+He wasn’t even arrested you liar.
+--- 136732198
+>>136732115
+Is that info still relevant in the streaming era? I'm interested but I assume this book was written in the 90s or the early 2000s
+--- 136732251
+>>136732081
+All the banter he receives is contained to threads on /co/. Isolation from /co/ drama did nothing, as even when banned for periods of time guy continued to work himself up over perceived machinations against his person. As far as professional help goes, he likely remains in the care of his mother who kept declining offers of psychological treatment back when guy was still in K12, so it's unlikely that any of them is going to request such assistance now.
+--- 136732255
+>>136732183
+>>136732198
+He is a very nice guy.
+I've gotten two potential development deals from the information in this book. It goes into detail about how to setup your pitch Bible, character colors and what you need to explain the story, all still relevant today.
+--- 136732271
+>>136732251
+Why are single mommies like this?
+--- 136732308
+>>136730885
+It's like Spongebob except you don't have to be autistic to enjoy it.
+--- 136732333
+>>136732251
+I'm well aware that the chances of guy ever even recognizing that he needs help are low much less seeking it are low to nil
+But just like with CWC when you know enough about their past to really pity them there's not much fun to be had poking them.
+Call me a bleeding heart but it's just not fun shitting on someone that life already covered in shit from the word go
+--- 136732353
+>>136732271
+It's not single moms, CWC had a dad
+It's just people that care more about themselves and appearances than their children.
+Aka most boomers
+--- 136732494
+>>136732271
+>>136732353
+guy has a father who beat him
+--- 136732524
+>>136732494
+Is there a compilation somewhere of guy lore
+--- 136732542
+>>136732081
+I hate that we cannot have Homestuck threads anymore without Guy shitting them up
+--- 136732557
+>>136732494
+Yeah, that tracks.
+Just another reason shitting on him isn't fun.
+Poor bastard never stood a chance
+--- 136732633
+>>136730217
+freaking Puss in Boots in the background makes me laugh so hard
+--- 136732680
+>>136732494
+>Becomes a catholic anti-gay zealot because of a father who beat the ever living shit out of him under the suspicion that he might be gay 
+>Goes on a crusade against everything that might have made his dad think that he might be gay for wanting close friends 
+>...except for John K, despite him making Stimpy openly gay and Ren bisexual in Adult Party
+--- 136732690
+>>136732557
+I mean, it's a bit mean but it is funny how consistent his reactions are. He's so repetitive it has that humoristic 'oh that zany guy!' feel
+--- 136732766
+>>136732115
+Damn. I want to buy it but Amazon has it cost $79.
+--- 136732845
+>>136732766
+I'm sure there is a scan of it somewhere. Check Joe’s website it might be cheaper there. I bought mine for 14.
+--- 136732853
+>>136731657
+>I'm not afraid of people recognizing me
+>took off his name
+--- 136732898
+>>136732766
+>>136732845
+Maybe this?
+https://colab.research.google.com/drive/10ZWXHaZPBlpPptELUouIGROELUQdHtwk
+--- 136732953
+Joe Murray has become the only creator out of that initial batch to continue working and showrun. If anyone has contributed the most to animation it would be Joe. His time between shows was spent developing and helping younger creators to develop their ideas with their voice. He has no pretensions like John does.
+--- 136732961
+>>136732680
+there's a story where john fought with nickelodeon to include a gay mistletoe scene in son of stimpy because a gay spumco employee was in tears at it being cut, he is totally aware of the fact that ren and stimpy are icons in the gay community
+--- 136733061
+>>136732961
+He talks about it in multiple commentaries on how he received a lot of fan mail about the gay leanings of the show. He fully supports the LGBTQ.
+--- 136733078
+>>136733061
+i wouldn't say "fully", he does make fun of them on his blog
+--- 136733084
+>>136733061
+>>136732961
+You can't expect an abused schizophrenic to have internally consistent logic or views
+--- 136733098
+>>136732115
+I remember seeing this on a bookstore
+--- 136733150
+>>136732961
+I remember a clip of him talking about letters he got from gay men thanking him for making a gay couple in the form of Ren and Stimpy, and his response was "what are you talking about? I don't know if they're gay. That's their business. "
+There was another point I recall him saying "they're gay when it's funny"
+--- 136733270
+>>136727652 (OP)
+I will give him 20$ when he starts doing porn.
+--- 136733315
+>>136730934
+What animation school did you go to guy?
+--- 136733371
+John K's grossout humour shit that he pushed so damn hard, fucking killed cartoons for me growing up. 
+I unironically blame this shit for why I ended up so deep into anime while looking down on western animation as a whole. 
+
+My views are certainly no where near as black and white as they were back then. But I still really dislike this guy's influence on the medium.
+--- 136733469
+>>136733315
+Animation school is a waste of money.
+>>136733371
+Ren and Stimpy was not about gross out jokes, it was about friendship and other strong relationships like between Dee Dee and Dexter. It grosses you out because you don't care about other people which is why you say it was all about grossout humor.
+Anime being foreign makes it difficult to relate to the characters without effort, so you can distance yourself from the relationships
+--- 136733584
+>>136733469
+>Ren and Stimpy was not about gross out jokes, it was about friendship 
+It was about a lot of things, but this tells me that Ren and Stimpy was literally the only positive emotional experience in your life at a young age and that's just heartbreaking.
+--- 136733635
+>>136733469
+I can't help but think you're being very reductive with your take on Ren and Stimpy. 
+And it wasn't even claimed that it was all about grossout humour in the first place. Ren and Stimpy wasn't even directly referenced. 
+
+You do know that John K's career and influence stretches far beyond just Ren and Stimpy, right?
+--- 136733694
+>>136733635
+You need to understand that you're talking to someone with poor mental health that latched on to specific cartoons as their only model for anything even resembling a healthy or positive relationship
+It's basically embedded into the very core of his value system. Self-preservation won't allow that to be challenged without lots of therapy and medication, until a more developed moral underpinning can replace it
+--- 136733997
+>>136732845
+It seems to be out of print, which sucks because I want to read it but not badly enough to pay 80+ dollars
+--- 136734134
+Absolutely mogged by a guy that draws Sonic farting
+--- 136734170
+>>136733997
+I think I found a PDF. Posted earlier in the thread. 
+>>136732898
+
+Let me know if it works.
+--- 136734293
+>>136734134
+That's not a fair comparison. 
+You're talking about the guy who steered world's gaze back to Bartleby and his glory.
+--- 136734542
+>>136732898
+anon for fuck's sake these never work
+--- 136734691
+>>136733469
+>Animation school is a waste of money
+So what did you do with all the money you saved? All we see in the threads you infect is schizo art and abstract Jonh K doodles
+--- 136734694
+>>136733635
+I've seen the exact same summary made thousands of times before. Even by people who never participated in the animation community. You want to be treated as if you're an individual, but you have nothing new to say
+>>136733694
+Or you could just maybe have a conversation for the first time, as none of you have
+>>136734134
+Shut up idiot with no grasp of the realities of life
+>>136734406
+>Bitter animation student
+Of course, and now you've got nothing better to do with your life because of your bad school
+--- 136734727
+>>136734134
+holy fucking based
+--- 136734802
+>>136734694
+Here's a slice of reality for you, John K. is a rapist and Tamers isn't.
+Put your name back on, pussy.
+--- 136734877
+>>136734694
+You realize your posts and industry harassment aren't helping John’s case right? You only make people dislike him more by acting this way.
+--- 136734892
+>>136734802
+Imagine if you could back anything you say up instead of needing to tell people to do things to grasp for power like a loser.
+People like Spumdonor hallucinated abuse against a 15 year old because they were directly involved within the John K "fan"dom of abusing my teenage self. Even his Twitter handles sexualizes John K's legacy while my discussion of it revolves around friendship. He has been poisoning the animation community for over a decade because he doesn't want to see Ren and Stimpy as about more than nostalgia and decent kids entertainment
+
+(Shut up manchild)
+--- 136734963
+>>136734892
+>People like Spumdonor hallucinated abuse
+John K's lawyer literally admitted he had a 15 year old girlfriend
+--- 136735016
+>>136734892
+>Even his Twitter handles sexualizes John K's legacy
+You ever hear the joke that ends with "...but you suck ONE dick"?
+--- 136735042
+>>136734963
+John himself even admitted it in the documentary lol, tried defending it too from what I remember
+--- 136735045
+John K = KEYED
+Haters = LOCKED
+
+Simple as'
+--- 136735060
+>>136734694
+>You want to be treated as if you're an individual, but you have nothing new to say
+But what I wanted to say was in no way restricted to Ren and Stimpy. If Ren and Stimpy was the only cartoon I had issues with then it wouldn't have been much of a problem. 
+So why did you transform my claims into something completely different? Because you've seen thousands of summaries attacking Ren and Stimpy? That's not what I did. 
+It's like you didn't even read or consider the actual text of my post at all and just imagined that I was something else.
+--- 136735071
+>>136734963
+It was 16, and she was with him at 23 when she conceived. Nobody actually said he had sex with someone under the age of 18
+>>136735016
+Then why they making cartoons like The Ghost and Molly McGee or Cuphead which are still heavily Spumco? You need more than a cheap saying to have a coherent worldview. They're participating in his vision, just in a damaged way, and fake fans just make the damage worse
+--- 136735122
+>>136735071
+>anything that not anime inspired is spumco
+
+lmao
+--- 136735143
+>>136735071
+>Nobody actually said he had sex with someone under the age of 18
+--- 136735245
+>>136735122
+Your perspective is worthless because you're too ignorant then.
+>>136735143
+And she proceeded to be with him for 7 years? This is practically common law marriage. That's not sex, and it is an unsubstantiated story which is very strange considering how much effort he put into performing a single sexual abuse act.
+Y'all just believe what you want.
+>>136735042
+Provide the ACTUAL quote then instead of meaning filtered through your diseased brain.
+>>136735060
+I'm not going to work myself up as if you're going to be my new friend, you come out of the same mold I've seen thousands of times before. And it is very easy to show your individuality, heck the Terminator 2 picture in my post >>136734892 shows that by itself
+--- 136735288
+>>136735143
+Does this girl just not have parents?
+--- 136735307
+>>136735245
+>This is practically common law marriage
+If you think touching 16 year old girls' genitals is common law marriage then that explains a lot about your behaviour
+--- 136735313
+>>136735245
+>And she proceeded to be with him for 7 years? This is practically common law marriage.
+OK. groomer.
+--- 136735345
+>>136735313
+Didn’t you hear what I said earlier?
+Spumdonor was the one grooming me
+--- 136735383
+>>136735245
+>which is very strange considering how much effort he put into performing a single sexual abuse act.
+How is it strange? 
+That's how the more proficient sex pests behave: 
+>Groom your future victim while lowering their guard through benevolent and generous interaction 
+>Separate her from her family and everyone she knows 
+>Place her in an environment when you are her only link to the world
+--- 136735394
+>>136735307
+Anon...
+Once more for the slow
+>guy is schizophrenic
+>guy was beaten by his father for acting gay before he knew what gay was
+>guy was actively denied treatment by his mother, who went so far as to scream at and harass teachers and faculty 
+>guy's childhood was so without positive role models or companionship that Ren and Stimpy is the foundation of his model of human interaction
+>guy has severe delusions and highly disordered thinking as a result of illness and trauma that has literally never been treated
+You're more of a blurry idea to him tha a person
+--- 136735395
+>>136735288
+I didn't really when I was 16, you're echoing my own story again.
+>>136735307
+Quit taking shit out of context you racist dumbass.
+>>136735313
+And then double posting to pretend to put it back in context as a racist abuse tactic. Yes cartoons are Black Culture and I analyze the nature of Black Culture in scientific detail, shut up
+
+>>136735345
+Yes, unironically, he has been grooming the animation community to 1. Not take John's legacy seriously, to only give it a token level of respect and 2. To poison people against me, even if he didn't know me (nobody in the animation community has gotten to know me yet)
+--- 136735412
+>>136732953
+Joe Murray is probably the most underrated of all the creators, seeing as how many of the good shows of the modern day share some similarities in style, humor and writing with Rocko.
+
+The man has been not only important with mentoring Stephen Hillenburg during Rocko, but also giving Thurop van Orman the experience he needed to later on produce Flapjack and giving JG Quintel his first industry gig.
+--- 136735420
+>>136735394
+I can’t believe that this board is a refuge for the mentally insane.
+--- 136735434
+>>136735394
+I knew it, you were only pretending to show me compassion to set up emotional abuse. I'm both too old and too strong for that, if you're not careful I will level up my discourse immediately
+>You're more of a blurry idea to him tha a person
+This is projecting who I am to you. You're twisting around my story so you don't understand it. And that's 100 more messages to people in the animation industry and other places, bringing the current tally to 320 as punishment.
+>>136735383
+You're leaving out the part where he actually commits sex crimes instead of doing the bare minimum crime once. Also this sounds like how you people have treated me since I was 15
+--- 136735447
+>>136735420
+Come on, really? You really can't?
+--- 136735486
+>>136735395
+>I didn't really when I was 16, you're echoing my own story again.
+What the fuck is that supposed to convey?
+--- 136735492
+>>136735447
+I can understand /x/ or /his/ having a lot of crazies, but there’s no reason a board dedicated to cartoons and comics should have any of them.
+--- 136735505
+>>136735434
+>instead of doing the bare minimum crime once
+So you admit he did do it?
+--- 136735506
+>>136735492
+Dude we discuss cartoons for little kids all day
+--- 136735515
+>>136727978
+I was never a fan of his art though.
+--- 136735541
+>>136735506
+That’s just regular autism. What Guy and other shitposters exemplify is psychopathy.
+--- 136735560
+>>136735394
+Given guy's response >>136735434 to your post, I think that the only chance for him to be treated is for the very people from animation industry he keeps bombarding with letters to call cops on him - but for the sake of welfare check instead of anything drastic.
+--- 136735572
+>>136735434
+>I knew it, you were only pretending to show me compassion to set up emotional abuse. 
+I'm sad you see it that way as it means you're going to turtle up and avoid thinking about any of it, but abuse by people you should be able to trust is clearly a pattern in your life so I'm not really surprised.
+I do hope that you'll get help someday. You're in dire straits but you're not so far gone that you can't recover.
+I agree that you're resilient - you'd have to be to have lived the way you have and still be alive. Unfortunately that same shell that keeps you from harm is the same thing that keeps you from treatment.
+
+I'm not religious but I have always believed in the message of brotherly love, even for those one can't stand. ESPECIALLY for them. I love you, and I pray your lot improves.
+No one deserves to be in pain. Abuse is not the victim's fault.
+
+Good luck.
+--- 136735620
+Fan pieces
+>>136735486
+Pretending you can't read as a defense mechanism, got that plenty of times as a teenager. An industry animator actually mocked me about it
+>>136735505
+No, I'm analyzing your story. Discussing your story isn't the same as saying it's true, which is very insightful as to why you people can't even address my own story.
+>>136735541
+Yeah real psychopaths send emails to be abused less.
+>>136735420
+All across the animation community and other communities like former Homestuck fans are people nursing mental conditions that come from the disasters of the early 2010s period.
+--- 136735694
+>>136735541
+guy's not a psychopath, psychopaths lack empathy and feel a very restricted range of emotions
+Given just the history he's made public the likeliest diagnosis is mild to moderate hebephrenic schizophrenia with a smattering of comorbidities and probably some form of PTSD
+--- 136735954
+>>136735412
+He is and he has contributed more to the animation industry than John has. John is vocal and wants the attention and glory but Joe is here to do a job he loves and help train others to create worthwhile entertainment. He deserves the recognition that John gets.
+--- 136735977
+>>136735434
+You can't send 320 emails to industry people and I doubt you actually have. Your threats don't bother me because they are empty.
+--- 136735988
+>>136727652 (OP)
+>WIP
+He does know that the idea is that he is posting something monthly, right?
+--- 136736110
+>>136731978
+NTA, it's true, he confirmed it himself.
+--- 136736314
+>>136736110
+>>136731883
+Boil, shut up
+>>136732011
+You obviously don't realize how much time that takes. You people spend a lot of time replying to me on here and should start putting it into reading my articles on cartoons and other topics if you want things to improve
+>>136732034
+Pic related
+>>136731979
+Don't worry Boil, I'm finally erasing my nerve pain. This is the beginning stage of the imperial blockade effort to resolve artistic offenses of the past like your favorite webcomic. Enjoy it
+>>136735572
+You may feel some genuine concern, but without the Catholic faith you can't understand my perspective
+>>136735560
+I don't think telling people that they worked on projects that plagiarized my teenage self (with inspiration from John K's blog, thereby distorting perception of his legacy) and merely requesting a better social environment is a crime
+--- 136736331
+>>136736314
+Who’s boil
+--- 136736342
+Guy's Catholic? No wonder he's trying to dismiss the molestations...
+--- 136736377
+>>136736331
+I’ve been wondering the same thing
+--- 136736514
+>>136730934
+>This is my life, my life revolves around art and has since birth.
+>>136736314
+>You people spend a lot of time replying to me on here and should start putting it into reading my articles on cartoons and other topics if you want things to improve
+If this is what your lifetime of dedication amounts to, then I doubt you could help anyone improve. I guess a good chuckle could improve their day?
+--- 136736656
+>>136736314
+>without the Catholic faith you can't understand my perspective
+I'm not claiming to, at least not in full. I don't need to understand everything about you to recognize your pain.
+If you're a devout catholic you might consider seeking counsel from the church. I'm sure you'd take the word of a man of the cloth more seriously than that of an online stranger.
+Catholic spiritual direction and psychiatric help can both play a role in improving your life, but nothing can happen without opening up to people that are truly trustworthy
+--- 136736859
+>>136727652 (OP)
+Meh, at least throw in some legal pad drawing request perk.
+--- 136736988
+>>136732542
+Tranny webcomic (tautology)
+--- 136737009
+>>136736514
+Shut up boil + my articles are my art you dipshit, go ahead and get your lulz from making fun of them if you can.
+>>136736859
+This is a good idea
+>>136736656
+I don't feel like opening up to people who don't understand my ideas about art. Hence why I keep attempting to spread understanding of my ideas about art
+--- 136737060
+>>136735694
+Thank you dr. Internet
+--- 136737103
+>>136737009
+I've scrolled through your twitter and I've seen you interact with one industry artist. The rest are all furry or anime profile pics and the artist responded nicely to you. I doubt you’ve had any real contact with the people in the industry.
+--- 136737190
+>>136737103
+inb4 you're boil now too.
+--- 136737291
+>>136737009
+>I don't feel like opening up to people who don't understand my ideas about art.
+I think that's a mistake with quite extreme consequences, but that's something you'll have to recognize for yourself.
+
+Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellers there is safety. - Proverbs 11:14
+
+The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice. - Proverbs 12:15
+--- 136737294
+>>136737190
+Don't we all have a little boil deep down?
+--- 136737314
+>>136737103
+They blocked me every time without responding or even when I've never even interacted with them. So I needed an alternate plan besides civil conversation
+>>136737190
+People saved that screenshot Boil made of my deviantART so they deserve it. The point of the drawing people try to belittle me for was that I could invent the John Egbert character if Homestuck had never existed because I was a big fan of both John Kricfalusi and Roger Ebert and he is evocative of both of them. He was seeking revenge for me exposing where Homestuck came from
+
+The film Armageddon was a collaboration between people who tried to work with John K. You need to understand John's vision to properly appreciate it
+>>136732542
+I'm going to invade every Homestuck community and relationship through cultural osmosis, have fun
+--- 136737348
+>>136737060
+It's Toboggan.
+
+Mantis Toboggan!
+--- 136737386
+>>136727652 (OP)
+Those gotta be some top tier fucking blog posts for 20 bucks a month when he already has years of posts up for free.
+--- 136737410
+>>136737314
+>They blocked me every time without responding or even when I've never even interacted with them.
+based.
+--- 136737460
+>>136737314
+His art used to be so good. What happened?
+--- 136737476
+I wish we could discuss John K or Ren and Stimpy without g*y around. He's made the quality of convos worse.
+--- 136737916
+>>136737476
+You’d have to join an animation discord for that.
+--- 136738211
+>>136737916
+Why are you a trooncord shill?
+--- 136738265
+What the fuck is going on here? Can someone give me the rundown on who this guy person is????
+What the fuck?
+--- 136738291
+>>136738211
+There are more troons here than in any discord server I'm in.
+>>136738265
+Lurk more before you start posting, you'll get familiar with our local lolcow soon enough.
+--- 136738292
+>>136738265
+NewGOD, I...
+--- 136738327
+>>136736331
+Why did Boil stop posting?
+--- 136738399
+>>136738211
+Because you can't have a decent John K conversation here.
+--- 136738425
+>>136738399
+Enjoy celebrating the newest egg [tranny slang] that just came out
+--- 136738487
+>>136738425
+Ooh, we got a badass over here.
+
+My point stands. John k threads on /co/ are guy bait, nothing more.
+--- 136738510
+>>136737291
+When every conversation starts with expecting me to give up on everything I'm working on and fit the molds of society, I avoid those people. I know what's important to my life and they don't want to learn about it because it upheaves society
+My view of John's philosophy has never been discussed by anybody else, and so it upsets the whole history of drama involving him
+>>136738265
+Here you go https://manlyburger.substack.com/p/the-animation-industry-masterpost that's my history involving the animation community, you can also read my other articles to learn more
+>>136738291
+Boil trying to keep the torch of your kiwifarms act alive while being afraid of looking at my version of John K's blog is pathetically hilarious. It's like the most stupid version of the little matchstick girl story
+>>136737476
+By worse you mean worse for you and you're selfish. I'm going to keep informing people about the real nature of the animation community, try to improve yourself
+--- 136738514
+>>136738487
+Pick your poison
+--- 136738532
+>>136738487
+Think of them as guy containment channels.
+--- 136738539
+Joined the Patreon and left. It's just rehashing of old art and blog topics nothing brand new. Old talking points. Don't waste your money.
+--- 136738552
+>>136738510
+>When every conversation starts with expecting me to give up on everything I'm working on and fit the molds of society, I avoid those people. I know what's important to my life and they don't want to learn about it because it upheaves society
+I think you may be underestimating your fellow man.
+>My view of John's philosophy has never been discussed by anybody else, and so it upsets the whole history of drama involving him
+I think the best case scenario would be discussing things with someone who has little to no knowledge of illustration or john k.
+--- 136738559
+>>136732542
+is he on megidochan?
+--- 136738591
+>>136738510
+Is the boil in the room with us right now?
+--- 136738618
+>>136738510
+You aren't informing anyone of the animation industry because you know zero about it. All you know is random deviant art and twitter zoomers who complain about nonsense. Most of the industry is made up of blue collar people who want to draw for a living.
+--- 136738628
+>>136738539
+Pics or didn't happen.
+--- 136738797
+>>136735420
+Anon....You really think a board about cartoon autism wouldn't become a refuge for people with mental illnesses? Anyone on here who isn't an industry insider is basically guaranteed to be somewhat to severely autistic, it can only get lower from there.
+--- 136738830
+>>136727930
+porn
+--- 136738860
+>>136738591
+>>136738618
+Shut up boil
+>>136738539
+Even if you actually did join it, his haters are proven to be incapable of actually understanding what they read from his blog. And so your summary is worthless
+>>136738487
+>>136738532
+Ok if John K can't be discussed here I'll just find alternate ways to discuss him, by messaging perhaps
+--- 136738876
+>http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/
+>patreon is this but you pay $20 to see it
+--- 136738883
+>>136727652 (OP)
+Oh boy, I get to learn PHOTOSHOP from John K.
+
+Woooow what an honor.
+--- 136738945
+>>136738860
+Messaging who? Literally who cares who you message? It's not the threat you think it is.
+--- 136739022
+>>136738860
+>more boil shit
+Stop projecting already, not everyone who disagrees with you is a tripfag who turned his name off.
+--- 136739085
+>>136738860
+I'm not Boil.
+--- 136739110
+>>136739085
+Boil hasn't even entered this thread. But good luck telling Guy that.
+--- 136739412
+>>136738876
+That's a great value. Providing that sort of education for free was one of the biggest things ever, and is actually why animation students became so pissed off at him they filtered people who learn from John out of the industry. They wasted so much money!
+>>136738945
+Then stop replying to me forever to prove it. 
+>>136739022
+>>136739085
+>>136739110
+>Trying to make himself look cool
+--- 136739443
+>>136730934
+Hamuletta's got to get people to talk about John K somehow or she'll kill himself literally.
+--- 136739491
+>>136739412
+>Then stop replying to me forever to prove it.
+You're gonna have to stop turning your name off first before anyone can promise you that.
+--- 136739558
+>>136739412
+No one kicked them out of the industry.
+--- 136739978
+>>136739491
+>Resorting to your Discord grooming tactics
+Lmao, time to go work on my next email, this one will involve your favorite webcomic pretty heavily
+You manchildren are hedonists, so while you get high on feeling like you have power I go and actually change the world you live in. 
+>>136739558
+You can pretend like social enforcement isn't real but my John K inspired philosophy will continually inform the people I message so they can understand it better and better. The whole animation community has a totally artificial culture, if things proceeded naturally almost nobody would be present in today's animation industry, only the few redeemable individuals like Coelasquid. I'm going to go talk with some industry people about how obvious it is they intentionally guided people to have nothing to do with people like me such as other John K fans.
+>>136738883
+People in today's industry can barely do anything but badly storyboard, using just the pencil and paint bucket tool. That is unironically one service to provide to cartoonists
+--- 136740107
+>>136739978
+>telling guy to keep his trip on to filter his schizo shit more easily is a discord grooming tactic now.
+>some poor fucker who supposedly works in the industry is gonna get a guy rant mail now because he's convinced we're all some other tripfag now.
+--- 136740422
+>>136733469
+>Animation school is a waste of money.
+Just get a scholarship bro, ez
+--- 136740486
+>>136739022
+>>136739085
+>>136739110
+Guy has been calling people boil for over a year now. The namefag boil was just someone adopting that name.
+--- 136740569
+>>136740486
+On one hand, I really should know all the guy lore by now. But on the other hand, it's quite comforting to know that I don't.
+--- 136740668
+>>136740569
+Also, the posts that he is most likely to accuse of being from Boil are ones that go off topic to attack him, spread rumors about him, and reference his offsite posts.
+--- 136740717
+>>136734877
+Literally. I went from actually being an avid fan of his blogs and teachings to outright despising the mere mention of John K. after seeing Guy's schizo rants. If I didn't know any better, I'd almost be convinced that Guy actually HATES John K., because there's no way you'd act that obnoxiously if you'd want to convince people something was good for them.
+--- 136740738
+>>136740668
+Weird, I've mentioned his niece a few times before in past threads, but this was the first time he called me boil.
+--- 136743006
+>>136727652 (OP)
+You're three years late
+--- 136743120
+>>136731657
+You turned your name off because you're a coward and only announced yourself because a guy on an anonymous image board called you out for trying to hide yourself like a bitch
+--- 136743400
+If you're going to babble about some guy nobody has met or had a discussion with, at least get minimally acquainted https://manlyburger.substack.com/p/p12-art-culture-what-do-the-owl-house
+>>136740717
+So that's just a sign you're in the animation industry and recognize what is not socially acceptable there. Meanwhile they're perfectly fine with profiting off of series made with inspiration from myself and John.
+"Obnoxious" is the emotion of a child, develop yourself so you have real emotions to discuss
+>>136743006
+Not to worry, those stories from when people thought the animaniacs reboot was going to be a big thing are going to be overturned soon
+>>136740107
+The "wins" you people score revolve around this stupid name shit which is a reference to the Book of Life from the Bible.
+
+You're not actually discussing anything else, you just wait for me to come back and y'all equate me with John K which is a huge compliment
+>>136740422
+They're a waste of money regardless of how much you spend
+>>136743120
+>Tries to win an internet fight
+Try winning the fight of reading my articles or shutting up
+--- 136743461
+>>136743400
+My cousin worked on the Animaniacs Reboot. He said it did so well that they moved forward with Tiny Toons.
+--- 136743917
+>>136732494
+somebody had to
+--- 136744003
+>>136743917
+No
+I don't need it, from any one
+>>136743461
+Tiny toons is like a car bursting into flames
+--- 136744218
+>>136743400
+>>Try winning the fight of reading my articles or shutting up
+
+I'm not starting an internet fight or reading your shitty articles
+I'm making fun of you
+--- 136744473
+>>136744218
+How much time have you spent on this
+Give an estimate, and don't say you just got here
+--- 136744548
+Anyone else get this email?
+--- 136744552
+>>136736656
+>If you're a devout catholic you might consider seeking counsel from the church.
+Bad idea. Catholic church is no different to hardline evangelical churches when it comes to treating mental disorders as either satanic influence that can be amended by further brainwashing or leftie made-up bullshit that doesn't require any assistance.
+--- 136744659
+>>136744548
+>Dana Terrace's (the hottest girl on the planet in my assessment, but I appreciate many things about girls and things can always change)
+wut

co/136727992.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,211 @@
+-----
+--- 136727992
+Supersons are in this comic, anons
+--- 136728124
+They returned once more
+--- 136728203
+>>136728142
+>Jon x Irey
+Adams is a true man of quality taste
+--- 136728255
+>>136727992 (OP)
+>>136728159
+It’s so weird that they are advertising this with Irey’s new Thunderheart identity but inside it’s still her as Impulse
+--- 136728378
+Support your LCS, or whatever.
+--- 136728400
+>>136728378
+Thanks for the storytime op even if you aren’t the usual storytimer
+--- 136728446
+>>136728378
+booba
+--- 136728453
+>>136728378
+Thanks, anon.
+
+I don't know any of the other characters, but it was nice to see the boys back again.
+--- 136728503
+>>136728079
+>all seven or eight
+
+So anons who were going to be the 2-3 other members of this little team had DC not kicked Adams off the book?
+--- 136728520
+>>136728503
+Lian Harper? Maybe.
+--- 136728573
+>>136728124
+A sight for sore eyes! Based Adams strikes again!
+
+>>136728267
+Yay Uncle Jobber!
+
+>>136728303
+>All that is can be again. You just have to ask.
+Just please someone use this device to bring Kid Jon back. I don't care who you have to convince over at DC, just please fucking do it.
+
+>>136728503
+Pretty far-fetched, but an aged-up preteen Andy Curry would be cool, maybe one of the new sidekicks Johns introduced? Are there any other prominent characters in their age range?
+>>136728520
+I think Lian is too old already? Idk
+--- 136728843
+>>136728251
+Cute
+--- 136728962
+>>136728453
+Have you not been reading the flash?
+--- 136729116
+>>136728267
+Flash getting tagged will always be funny.
+--- 136729174
+>>136728159
+What's the gross thing here?
+--- 136729359
+I stopped following ongoings outside X-men stuff. What are some good DC books you recommend I catch up on?
+
+>Flash Infinite Frontier
+>Robin (the tourney arc)
+>World's Finest
+Anything else?
+--- 136729427
+Dog bless Adams.
+--- 136729489
+>>136729359
+Nothing else is good really right now. Swamp Thing was decent, but it wrapped up, maybe Ram V's Catwoman
+--- 136729682
+>>136729359
+>>136729489
+There's nothing good at the big two right now.
+--- 136729728
+>>136728001
+Kek it’s fun to see Ace continuing Wally’s messing with the Hall of Doom
+--- 136730375
+>>136730237
+I see now.
+--- 136730504
+>>136728142
+Ew, it looks like those first attempts at manga-like art from the 90s
+--- 136730595
+Jon is gay 
+
+They should go with Damian x Irey
+--- 136730609
+>>136728124
+Hey, what a cool idea
+They should make a comic of these two
+--- 136730631
+>>136728159
+I thought she got a new costume
+--- 136730646
+>>136728174
+I don't think I know who gorilla girl is
+I only jumped on since the minute war
+--- 136730793
+>>136730631
+It takes place directly after the 2022 annual, it says so in the issue.
+
+>>136730646
+Maxine Baker, Animal Man's daughter. If you don't know her, I assume you never read Animal Man? Highly recommend you check out Morrison's and Lemire's runs.
+--- 136730824
+>>136728378
+Dun Dun DUUUUUUN
+
+Thanks for the storytime
+I'm really starting to dig these flash books
+--- 136730847
+>>136728079
+I like this.
+--- 136730864
+>>136728079
+>Heatwave Jr
+Not sure what to think
+--- 136730938
+>>136728001
+Bumpin
+--- 136731124
+>>136728348
+this basically cements the Super-Sons as from a different reality.
+
+Ah, to hell, I'm fine with it as long as it means more Super-Sons stories.
+
+plus it means Superkids can be from other realities as well, which enlarge the potential cast.
+--- 136731138
+>>136728378
+Thanks, anon. Great issue.
+--- 136731160
+>>136728520
+>>136728573
+Yeah Lian was an adult in catwoman (or at least looked like one)
+--- 136731173
+>>136729174
+I assumed the smell
+--- 136731303
+>>136728221
+Yep, knew that Damian and Irey would but heads. Nice of Jon, to back up Damian, or mediate.
+--- 136731318
+>>136729359
+Moon Knight's latest ish wasn't very good but it's overall a good run
+--- 136731399
+>>136731318
+It's a terrible run.
+--- 136731425
+>>136728079
+sexo heat wave jr
+--- 136732141
+Alternate Covers by: Taurin Clarke, Daniele Di Nicuolo, Yasmin Flores Montanez, Serg Acunda. Francis Manapul.
+--- 136733662
+>>136727992 (OP)
+bump
+--- 136734193
+>>136728348
+>>136728378
+This is Adams being a bro and giving something to thr next writer to work on his multiverse thing, him doing a cliffhanger to pitch a miniseries about the superkids or both.
+Thank Jeremy
+--- 136734738
+>>136728503
+gold beetle is the 8th one i guess
+--- 136734980
+>>136728124
+Great to see them again. But God DC fucked up with the age-up. Idiots.
+--- 136735609
+>>136734738
+Gold Beetle being often around\involved with the Superkids but never in the same room as Jai(because they first met as teenager) could be a fun regular gag
+
+Especially if Lilly keeps her appearances non-linear for maximum confusion.
+--- 136735993
+>>136734193
+Shut the fuck up, Jeremy.
+--- 136737168
+Bump
+--- 136738345
+Bump
+--- 136739396
+>>136738345
+Bump read
+--- 136739432
+bump for supersons
+--- 136739627
+>>136739432
+Bump for The Flash + The Super Sons
+--- 136739675
+I'm like 95% sure he would've brought in Andy Curry if he had had time
+--- 136739846
+>>136728079
+heatwave jr is kinda hot
+--- 136740018
+>>136728348
+soon....
+--- 136740029
+>>136739846
+kek
+--- 136740519
+>>136728079
+>Reverse-Grodd
+It's beautiful
+--- 136742341
+Idk what it is about this artist. Sometimes the art looks good, but sometimes it disgusts me. Is it the colors?
+--- 136743560
+>>136728001
+Bump for the read
+--- 136744111
+>>136730595
+Pretty sure he's bi.

co/136727998.txt

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+-----
+--- 136727998
+https://fortune.com/2023/04/17/disney-ceo-bob-iger-apple-takeover-steve-jobs
+--- 136728049
+I hope he and steve jobs make that deal
+--- 136728062
+>>136727998 (OP)
+I honestly can't believe this might be real. I always thought the mouse was too big to lose. 
+I really can't imagine the Disney empire under the Apple umbrella.
+--- 136728067
+man I haven't heard from Steve Jobs in awhile. what's that dude been up to lately?
+--- 136728097
+You'd have to be a real jackass to believe this.
+--- 136728104
+>>136728062
+It can happen if the man in charge too obsessed with his own legacy as the last CEO of Disney
+--- 136728107
+>>136727998 (OP)
+>Insiders say it's all but a done deal as contract negotiations near completion.
+wow
+--- 136728125
+>>136728104
+I bought stock in Disney because I always figured it was a safe bet, but it's been tanking basically since I bought it. I wonder what a possible takeover would mean for my shares.
+--- 136728151
+>>136728107
+If Apple took over Disney, it would probably be the one thing that could get people to start giving a shit about Apple TV+
+--- 136728171
+>>136728097
+--- 136728177
+Oh boy, more and more consolidation
+--- 136728201
+>>136728067
+He's busy planting new apple trees
+--- 136728204
+>>136728171
+Oh boy, so you think the FCC would let an American institution like Disney be bought by Apple.
+
+Retard.
+--- 136728205
+If it's on fortune, it's probably real.
+
+>>136728171
+Why do people love apple so much. I just don't fucking get it.
+--- 136728212
+>>136727998 (OP)
+I can't even fucking read the article because It's behind a paywall.
+You a fucking shill or something?
+--- 136728218
+>>136728204
+There is “competition” (Amazon with their own content, WarnerDiscovery) and not much overlap in what Apple and Disney do so they’ll allow it
+--- 136728220
+>>136728204
+If the FCC gave a shit, Disney would have been broken up long ago.
+Antitrust laws are dead.
+--- 136728223
+>>136728212
+Its 2023, you can easily get around paywalls
+--- 136728226
+>>136728204
+You mean like how Disney bought Fox? Yeah.
+--- 136728229
+>>136728205
+Apple are pioneers in brand loyalty. The entire generation of millennials was raised on the worship of Apple products.
+--- 136728239
+>>136728212
+use reader mode. If you're on firefox just hit the little icon that looks like a piece of paper with writing on it in the search bar. That honestly gets around like 80% of all paywalls.
+--- 136728245
+>>136728223
+Or OP quits being a lazy bitch and can greentext the relevant bits.
+--- 136728250
+>>136728067
+He’s dealing with Ligma
+--- 136728257
+>merging the two largest corporate cults in America
+Literally nothing could go wrong.
+>>136728204
+>the FCC
+*FTC, R-tard.
+>would let an American institution like Disney be bought by [an American institution like] Apple
+Why not?
+--- 136728259
+>>136728229
+ipod classics are still dope. Just saying...
+--- 136728263
+>>136727998 (OP)
+Couldn't find anything on the web to confirm this. You wouldn't be lying would you anon?
+--- 136728278
+>The speculation over a possible Apple takeover reached such a level that Iger addressed the issue in his very first town hall as returning CEO without actually giving a definitive yes or no.
+--- 136728279
+>>136728263
+NO PAPA NO!
+--- 136728289
+>>136728205
+You didn't actually read the article did you?
+--- 136728291
+For the lazy:
+1/?
+
+If Bob Iger wanted to quash repeated rumors the Disney CEO plans to sell the business to Apple, he might not want to bring the subject up all on his own. 
+
+Asked by Time magazine who he looked to for inspiration following his triumphant return in November, the 72-year-old didn’t hesitate and immediately cited the tech giant’s legendary cofounder.
+
+“The person that I think most of, that I was fortunate enough to have observed very closely is Steve Jobs,” Iger replied in an interview. “Speaking with him when I did, and reflecting on what his experiences were–I’ve taken a lot from that.” 
+
+Named to Time’s “100 Most Influential People in the World” list after fewer than five months back on the job, Iger has been hard at work restructuring the Mouse House after it came under siege from investors.
+
+Like Jobs, who in 1997 returned to helm Apple after a 12-year-long interregnum, Iger is once more running his former company after Disney drifted off course under his successor, Bob Chapek. 
+
+Iger is now in the process of slashing $5.5 billion in costs and eliminating 7,000 jobs after its core content production division swung to an operating loss of $10 million in the fiscal first quarter that ended in December, mainly due to costs related to Disney+, its direct-to-consumer streaming business.
+
+Only his theme parks division is currently profitable.
+
+That’s why rumors are making the rounds that Iger may have been brought back to sell the iconic company to Apple, one of the very few with deep enough pockets to possibly afford such a deal. 
+
+Disney’s equity costs roughly $180 billion alone, and adding a 20% control premium common to takeovers would raise the price tag up to well over $200 billion. 
+
+Apple, the world’s largest company with a market value of $2.6 trillion, could easily raise that kind of money.
+--- 136728292
+or tank the stock so his friends can short it
+--- 136728301
+>>136728257
+You need consent from the Federal Communications Commission with matters involving television and broadcast.
+--- 136728305
+>>136728291
+2/?
+
+The speculation is not entirely out of left field. Iger himself had already admitted it was on his mind four years ago when he published his autobiography.
+
+“I believe that if Steve were still alive, we would have combined our companies, or at least discussed the possibility very seriously,” Iger wrote in The Ride of a Lifetime: Lessons From 15 Years as CEO of the Walt Disney Company. 
+Why would Apple buy Disney?
+
+Entertainment is fundamentally shifting away from cinematic releases and linear television like cable to streaming enabled by the latest hardware available in the field of consumer electronics—a field Apple dominates together with rival Samsung.
+
+Typically any debate on the ongoing streaming wars, though, has focused just on those aiming to topple Netflix from its perch atop the business, such as Disney, Paramount, and Warner Bros.
+
+Discovery just unveiled plans last week to fold its various streaming providers like HBO into one giant offer.
+
+By comparison, Apple TV is rarely mentioned in the same breath, despite the critical success of original shows Ted Lasso and The Morning Show.
+
+Its spending is modest at $7 billion this year compared to Disney’s $30 billion, according to estimates from research firm Moffett Nathanson, and its library of free content cannot compete with the big Hollywood studios.
+
+Acquiring Disney would in one fell swoop address that deficiency and give Apple an additional argument for consumers to buy one of its smartphones or tablets over a rival. 
+
+A spokesman for Apple could not be reached immediately by Fortune for comment, but Iger’s comments to Time serve to highlight the long history between Jobs and Disney.
+
+This reaches back decades to when the Apple cofounder was busy acquiring and managing a small computer graphics studio called Pixar from Lucasfilm.
+--- 136728318
+>>136728305
+3/3
+
+After a hugely successful collaboration that began in 1991 with the development of Toy Story and reached its zenith with Finding Nemo, Jobs and Disney went their separate ways in early 2004.
+
+Iger’s first big act after being promoted to CEO in October 2005 was the purchase of Pixar, which valued the studio’s equity at $6.3 billion.
+
+In the process, Jobs as the studio’s cofounder joined the board and became Disney’s largest shareholder with nearly 7% of the stock (his widow, Laurene Powell Jobs, later cut the stake to 4% in January 2017).
+
+The speculation over a possible Apple takeover reached such a level that Iger addressed the issue in his very first town hall as returning CEO without actually giving a definitive yes or no.
+
+“What you’ve read about in that regard is just pure speculation,” he was quoted by Los Angeles Times sources as saying in November. 
+
+Nevertheless, the rumor won’t go away in part because a number of analysts find the logic of the deal too convincing to be ignored.
+--- 136728319
+>>136728291
+>If Bob Iger wanted to quash repeated rumors the Disney CEO plans to sell the business to Apple, he might not want to bring the subject up all on his own.
+>did not actually bring uip the subject of selling disney to apple
+--- 136728325
+>>136728301
+And the Federal Trade Commission handles corporate mergers, R-tard.
+--- 136728328
+>>136728301
+>Does competition like Warner or Amazon exist beyond your company’s acquisition in the niche the company you are acquiring deals with?
+Yes
+>Ok great Apple we agree to the merger!
+--- 136728338
+>>136728325
+And yet you still need the FCC's approval you fucking brain dead moron.
+--- 136728349
+Delusional thread filled with retarded chuds.
+--- 136728405
+>>136728349
+The headline of the article is click baity for sure, but there are some good points to be made. I don't think it's as done a deal as the article desperately tries to make you think, but the idea is out there now.
+--- 136728420
+>>136728125
+Shoot then to the moon, I assume.
+--- 136728480
+>>136728171
+No. Fucking. Way.
+--- 136728563
+>>136728420
+I'm not one of those get rich quick bros. I just figured investing small amounts of cash to learn how it all works would be smarter than letting it sit in a bank account. I figured the mouse was too big to lose, so it would be a safe bet. I was wrong. 
+
+That said, I only put the amount of cash in I was okay with losing (which was not much).
+--- 136728593
+>>136728305
+>I believe that if Steve were still alive, we would have combined our companies
+This is the tell. This is the goal.
+--- 136728672
+>>136727998 (OP)
+Sounds like At&t buying WB all over again.
+--- 136728675
+>>136728338
+>you still need the FCC's approval
+>sources cited:
+--- 136728696
+>>136728205
+Is the website fortune reliable? I wonder if its like forbes where individual contributers can upload anything they want with minimal editorial oversight.
+--- 136728731
+>>136728062
+>I always thought the mouse was too big to lose
+Belive or not, even the giants in the movie and TV industry are nothing but microorganisms when compared to tech, energy and Food
+Especially Disney who is aways bleeding money to keep their amusement parks and hundreds of operations afloat
+--- 136728752
+>>136728672
+It would more dignified than the position they are now
+--- 136728761
+>>136728731
+Oddly enough, the amusement parks are self-sustaining and are the major money makers of the empire. The movies and shows largely exist to drive people to the parks.
+--- 136728768
+>>136727998 (OP)
+>Bob Iger names Steve Jobs as chief inspiration behind dramatic return as Disney CEO amid persistent rumors of a sale to Apple
+OP is a faggot but everyone that didn't even bother to click the link is worse
+You kids have zero critical thinking skills.
+--- 136728792
+>>136727998 (OP)
+
+Hahahahahhahahhahha.....
+
+He is not serious, is he?????
+--- 136728839
+>>136728768
+I just think it's an interesting thought experiment, plus have a bit of a "where there's smoke..." mentality when it comes to it, since the rumor has been persisting for almost a year now.
+--- 136728887
+>>136728768
+>>136727998 (OP)
+No, really, every single one of you is s complete dipshit. Especially the guy that somehow thinks market cap is the same thing as revenue.
+
+Is this really how easy it is to manipulate you dumb cunts? Just post a link with vague keywords and pretend it says what I want you to believe, secure in the knowledge no one will even bother to check it?
+
+https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/10/margaret-thatcher-poster-girl-gay-rights
+Hey retards, check it out, Margaret Thatcher is the new star of a whole line of gay posters inspired by OP!
+--- 136729315
+>>136728887
+>every single one of you
+Even >>136728839?
+--- 136729341
+>>136728204
+The great irony is that monopolies have only become more prevalent with the advent of Government regulations
+--- 136729377
+>>136729341
+>regulatory capture prevents regulations from working so we should just do nothing and let all the biggest corporations do whatever they want instead
+Libertarians are retarded
+--- 136729540
+>>136729377
+How do you solve regulatory capture other than de-regulating?
+--- 136729591
+>>136729540
+>How do you solve business interests corrupting regulatory practices with bribes and appointments so they can do whatever they want without wholly removing the concept of regulation and saving said companies the effort?
+Libertarians. Are. RETARDED.
+--- 136729618
+>>136727998 (OP)
+ITODDLERS BTFO
+--- 136729621
+>>136728104
+
+Bob Iger was a bad CEO for Disney
+--- 136729633
+>>136728171
+How. They make phones and computers. What? Mastercard basically runs banking, Coca-Cola is the most popular drink in the world after water, Mcdonalds is the biggest food service, Intel makes the goddamn chips for everything, Boeing creates the worlds planes, goldman sachs are a leviathan by themselves, and Lockheed makes billions making the latest weapons tech for the US government. How the hell is Apple so big?
+--- 136729655
+>>136729591
+>business interests corrupting regulatory practices
+No, it's the other way around.
+--- 136729698
+>>136728731
+Apple gets in trouble with government all the time. Meanwhile Disney runs the government.
+--- 136729699
+NOOOOOO NOT MY FAVORITE CORPORATION
+--- 136729713
+>>136727998 (OP)
+Capitalism is a rotten tooth in the mouth of civilization that must be pulled and replaced.
+--- 136729717
+>>136728171
+It's always so wild to me that Apple is worth so much when I don't use any of their products at all and wouldn't notice them being gone.
+--- 136729730
+>>136729713
+How do you remove the human tendency to act in one's own self interest from civilization?
+--- 136729735
+>>136728887
+>he clicks on links posted by hacker known as 4chan
+the only dummie here is (you)
+--- 136729736
+>>136729633
+>They make phones and computers
+What do you think those banks planes and food services run on?
+--- 136729751
+>>136729736
+Intel chips and linux/windows operating systems wtf
+--- 136729773
+>>136729713
+What would replace Disney and Apple in communism?
+--- 136729815
+>>136729633
+>They make phones and computers.
+That cost over 1k each
+--- 136729821
+>>136728218
+The primary concern with an Apple/Disney merger would not be product overlap (although there is overlap since Apple is a content creator), but vertical integration. Plus, they may just be too darn big. Their size would outdistance their closest competitors by entire laps.
+Of course, this all depends on the whims of the regime in charge. They may want to avoid this so close to an election year, where this may become a campaign issue for one side or the other.
+--- 136729871
+>>136729655
+>Unironically yes, we should allow corporations to do literally whatever they want with no oversight
+Re
+Tar
+Ded
+--- 136729872
+>>136729730
+Mutual interest is the foundational principal of society itself. We are all interdependent to an extreme degree. The nature of that interdependence needs to be ensured to avoid maximum harm
+--- 136729873
+>>136729633
+Same reason tesla is so overvalued: monkey jpegs but for wallstreet.
+--- 136729885
+>>136729655
+
+Delusional
+--- 136729890
+>>136729633
+>I don't know the difference between market cap and revenue
+Stop posting
+--- 136729897
+>>136728151
+Yeah. Good for Apple+ I guess.
+--- 136729915
+>>136729773
+I never said anything about communism.
+
+My personal belief is that the proper replacement system has yet to be fully developed because capitalism has it's boot so far down the world's throats most people in power don't even bother conceiving an alternative.
+
+If it were me, I would use Anarcho-Syndicalism as a starting off point, but I am not expert. There are plenty of avenues to explore .
+--- 136729962
+>>136728731
+There’s always a bigger fish.
+--- 136729970
+>>136729872
+>We are all interdependent to an extreme degree 
+>The nature of that interdependence needs to be ensured
+Sounds like it already is, what with this interdependence being apparently universal to society as we know it.
+>>136729871
+Your strawman is not an argument.
+>>136729885
+Neither is a one-word, grown-up version of, "Nuh-uh."
+--- 136729980
+>>136729915
+Heavily regulated capitalism with strong antitrust regulation and actual criminal penalties instead of fines for luxuries
+Central planning/public ownership for societal requirements like food and water, basic housing, utilities, and medicine.
+
+Done.
+Capitalism works fine when companies can't hold your life and well-being hostage to price gouge.
+--- 136729991
+>>136729591
+Hey anon guess how much lobbying Microsoft did before it was with an anti-trust suit? 
+None
+
+Guess how much lobbying Microsoft has done since the suit? 
+Literal billions of dollars in spending and now Microsoft is a larger monopoly then it ever was in the 90s
+
+You're retarded quest for regulations literally created one of the world's largest monopolies in the tech sector. 
+
+The only retarded one here is Y-O-U
+--- 136730003
+>>136729970
+>I don't know what a strawman is
+Neat
+You're retarded
+You'll hopefully grow out of libertarianism by the time you hit 16. It's an inherently naive view.
+--- 136730006
+>>136727998 (OP)
+Fuck Disney, sure. But fuck big tech even more. This will only make things worse.
+--- 136730032
+>>136727998 (OP)
+Dammit. One World Media Organization here we come.
+
+i hate the antichrist
+--- 136730042
+>>136729717
+The same could be said about most anons. You're not the target audience.
+--- 136730046
+>>136729991
+>Antitrust suit successful stopped microsoft from being a monopoly
+>Then they spent billions destroying the regulatory agency's power and infiltrating its higher positions and that let the become a monopoly
+>Somehow this is evidence that regulation doesn't work despite it working before the sabotage
+Are you a shill or just a moron?
+--- 136730055
+>>136728062
+Every single company belongs to another company. Even the big companies are owned by someone.
+--- 136730072
+>>136729970
+>Ensured to avoid maximum harm
+In a small village everyone's survival depends on everyone else because you hunt, father farm and raise children together.
+
+In a large globalized society everyone's survival depends on everyone else's because our needs are connected to massive interconnected supply chains.
+The issue is those supply chains are in the hands of people and systems designed to hurt people for the benefit of am every increasing few as you go higher up the chains of power.
+
+The thing is, that system is inherent or natural or immutable even though it thrives off of pretending it is. Most of this stuff was made up in the last couple hundred years or so, which means something better can also be made up .
+--- 136730074
+>>136730046
+>>136729991
+Phones don't work and have never worked!
+>smashes phone to bits
+See!? It doesn't work!
+--- 136730079
+>>136729980
+You just described socialism.
+--- 136730086
+>>136729655
+You're making a mistake thinking that rich government officials and rich corporate executives were ever, ever not on the same team.
+
+There are literally zero reasons why Government and the public sector shouldn't shake hands and support each other over serving the People, and there never, ever have been throughout the history of mankind.
+--- 136730092
+>>136730079
+I described a mixed economy you dunce.
+--- 136730099
+>>136730046
+>Antitrust suit successful stopped microsoft from being a monopoly
+>By making it a bigger monopoly 
+Anon how hard it is to see that the only reason Microsoft even did what it did was because of the very anti trust suit you lauded. You created the monster by antagonizing it and letting daddy government have a say it how it ran it's business now you're butthurt because daddy government is doing exactly what you wanted but now at the behest of the corporate giant you wished to slay. 
+
+Let me dumb this down for you. You can't combat a monopoly by making the government into a monopoly itself.
+--- 136730109
+>>136730092
+Which are socialist.
+--- 136730111
+>>136730003
+>>I don't know what a strawman is
+You greentexted by accident.
+>inb4 lol concession accepted mission accomplished etc.
+I'm sorry, you were making arguments? Where?
+--- 136730112
+>>136729633
+Market capitalization is what people think a company is worth. It's difficult to assess value if it isn't available for the public to purchase. That's the old, dynastic, secret society, Iron Bank/Eyes Wide Shut money. It doesn't move, so it isn't tracked.
+That said, Apple had $394.3 billion in revenue in 2022. Mastercard had 22.23B. Coca-Cola 43B. McDonalds 23.18B. Seems to me the valuation is fair.
+--- 136730116
+>>136730086
+>Government doesn't perfectly represent the people
+>So we should just give up any attempt at a better society or codified economics
+Just kill yourself already
+--- 136730139
+>>136730086
+The solution is to divest from these systems of power and develop alternative ones that suit our needs
+While at the same time pressuring these existing systems via a mixture of hard and soft power to cede reasources to the people.
+
+That method was the basis for every civil rights gain for every group in human history. It just needs to be scaled up.
+--- 136730164
+>>136730116
+>Government doesn't perfectly represent the people
+That is the exact reason you shouldn't give it any power you dip. If the goverment becomes corrupt then you can't do a damn thing to remove the power it has gained. It amazes me that you seek a better world away from monopolies by actively arguing to turn the government into a monopoly
+--- 136730166
+>>136730099
+>It's your fault I hit you!
+Lmao is that what your daddy told you?
+I feel bad for your battered ass now.
+>You can't combat corporate monopolies by making the government a monopoly
+A government is fundamentally a monopoly on violence. 
+You are a child
+--- 136730168
+>>136730116
+>Government doesn't perfectly represent the people
+Buddy, it doesn't even represent it imperfectly.
+
+>So we should just give up any attempt at a better society or codified economics
+The last two times this was tried seriously resulted in the Colonial Era and then in Communism.
+--- 136730189
+>>136730164
+>Unironically yes, the people should have ZERO power instead of some!
+Hot take Stalin
+--- 136730208
+>>136730189
+>"the people" really just means the state
+I love it when socialists go mask-off.
+--- 136730210
+Congrats everyone
+This is the dumbest thread on /co/ and it's not even close
+You even attracted tween /pol/ libertarians, the lowest of the low
+--- 136730212
+>>136730189
+>self autonomy is a lack of power
+Go lick a book elsewhere tankie. Just because you have no means of self reliance means I need daddy government to take care of me.
+--- 136730220
+>>136730210
+I thought you called them eleutheromaniacs.
+--- 136730226
+>>136730168
+>The Magna Carta was a mistake
+Lmao
+Alright imma head out
+--- 136730230
+>>136730042
+Then who is?
+--- 136730290
+>>136728672
+Apple has a much better understanding of the creative side of decision making than a bunch of suit wearing pencil pushers in a telecom corp, but it doesn’t mean their management style suits film/tv production that well. Their Apple TV+ stuff is known for being inefficient and over-budgeted, they burn money just because they can and barely notice. That’s a lot more risky when it becomes more than a side project
+--- 136730308
+>>136730226
+The Magna Carta was an oligarchy of English barons holding the government at gunpoint to decrease regulation and taxation, which the Pope annulled anyway. No different from when the Bank of England bailed British corporations for 7.5B pounds during of the pandemic.
+--- 136730324
+>>136729980
+We just need a president that isn't a spineless senile puppet. I wonder if such a thing is possible anymore.
+--- 136730341
+Hmm, would this pass anti-trust laws?
+--- 136730347
+>>136730324
+You had a president that literally tarrifed the shit out of corpos to get factory work back to the states less than 4 years ago.
+--- 136730355
+>>136730230
+normalfags
+--- 136730371
+>>136728250
+who the hell is Steve Jobs?
+--- 136730388
+>>136730371
+Joe Mama
+--- 136730391
+>>136730341
+Because these companies have nothing to do with each other, and neither is a monopoly on any industry they're in.
+--- 136730472
+>>136730341
+Yes, it adds vertical integration as far as tech and content delivery goes but not more than Comcast (aka Universal/NBC) already have. Apple’s also only been making its own movies/TV for about 3 years and can hardly be considered a major studio so it’s not expanding Disney’s power within the market they already operate in all that much.
+Apple’s also been notoriously thrifty when it comes to mergers and acquisitions. That’s why there’s constant baseless speculation about them buying other companies out, it’s what most others would do with the amount of money in the bank they have but they rarely bite, their last major get was buying Beats by Dre almost a decade ago. The fact they DON’T gobble other companies up constantly will help them when they decide to actually make a major purchase.
+--- 136730529
+>>136730341
+>Tripfag is a retard that didn't read the article OR the thread before replying
+Why am I not surprised
+
+Reading this thread it's clear humans don't deserve to exist
+--- 136730575
+>>136729341
+Factually false. All big merger could happens because of diminishing regulations.
+>>136729540
+>How do you solve regulatory capture other than de-regulating?
+Transparency and accountability.
+>>136729655
+Factually false.
+>>136730086
+>You're making a mistake thinking that rich government officials and rich corporate executives were ever, ever not on the same team.
+You are making the mistake that we can't vote them out.
+>>136730164
+>If the government becomes corrupt then you can't do a damn thing to remove the power it has gained.
+Actually, you can, it's called election. And if they tamper with the elections, there is revolution.
+
+>>136729991
+If anything, it prove that it worked, as they made a point to break it. They could do it because they managed to convince moron that less regulation was better.
+>>136730099
+>Anon how hard it is to see that the only reason Microsoft even did what it did was because of the very anti trust suit you lauded.
+Microsoft fought the only obstacle in its way. You are not making a point with that, make in sort there is no obstacle to begin with does no make thing better.
+> You can't combat a monopoly by making the government into a monopoly itself.
+Actually the government being the main source of regulation and having to respond directly to the voters IS how you fight it.
+--- 136730624
+>>136730575
+>Transparency and accountability.
+>le unspecific positive words
+Your Nobel Prize is in the mail.
+--- 136730649
+>>136730575
+Anon it's a valiant effort but these guys unironically said the magna carta was a bad idea
+Save your breath
+--- 136730703
+>>136730575
+>two companies decide to merge
+>communist thinks he's being personally attacked
+--- 136730733
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywMt7py4w_c [Embed]
+--- 136730736
+>>136729633
+iPhone sales represent roughly half of all global cell phone revenue. The iPad is still the most popular tablet in the world. The Mac is still the 2nd most popular PC in the world. iTunes remains the 2nd most popular online music platform albeit still only about half as popular as Spotify. The iCloud has over 800 million users.
+
+Apple runs their own app store and collects a cut of every sale done on it. They sell airpods, smart TVs, and smart watches. They run their own payment service, eBook store, TV and music streaming platforms, shit they even have their own fucking news aggregator app. 
+
+Apple doesn't just make phones and computers. They have their hand in practically every major tech and computing industry there is, either directly or indirectly. 
+
+Take video games for example. Mobile gaming makes up half or more of all video game sales, and what platform do you think a lot of those sales happen on? The App store. And because Apple devices are all locked in to using that platform that means Apple makes money from every single microtransaction performed on an Apple phone.
+--- 136730767
+WILL THEY BECOME MORE WOKE OR LESS WOKE???
+
+THIS IS ALL THAT MATTERS!
+--- 136730780
+>>136730733
+I don't care what side of the aisle you're on
+Don't get your education from youtube
+--- 136730811
+>>136730780
+>>136730733
+RIP reasonableist bear
+--- 136730816
+>>136728062
+>Actively work to alienate and fight fans of every major property and brand
+>Fire creative leadership over flimsy allegations
+>Fire the one man pushing to keep costs in check
+>Go to war with the state that allowed their park to remain open during the pandemic
+Destruction comes fastest when done from within, I suppose.
+--- 136730822
+>>136730575
+>All big merger could happens because of diminishing regulations.
+Is that why we have the largest merged corporate giants under the most regulated economy in history?
+>hur dur there are no regulations 
+Try starting a company anon, no seriously, you'll find it's quite the opposite of under regulated.
+--- 136730848
+>>136730780
+I don't care what side of the aisle you're on.
+"Muh youtube" is not an argument.
+--- 136730860
+>>136730848
+>Your source is retarded bullshit is not an argument
+but it is though
+--- 136730882
+>>136730860
+"Retarded bullshit" isn't a magic word that means you're automatically right.
+--- 136730895
+>>136730882
+>Youtube is an acceptable source!
+you didn't try.
+--- 136730912
+>>136730895
+>Muh youtube
+If you didn't watch the video, why even reply other than to act like a smug pigeon on a Chess board?
+--- 136730927
+>>136730575
+>All big merger could happens because of diminishing regulations.
+>Transparency and accountability
+A literal impossibility
+>You are making the mistake that we can't vote them out.
+The person that wins an election 9 times out of 10 is the one with more campaign financing. The guys backed by big corporations win elections because of idiots voting for whoever they see the most campaign ads for. Hell I can garuntee that you probably voted for people that had the most campaign contributions from big corporations just by the way you talk. You actively got tricked by corporations to vote for the very scum you claim you're against.
+>And if they tamper with the elections, there is revolution.
+Weird because that shit happens all the time in North Korea and there's no revolution.
+--- 136730963
+>>136730912
+>why reply?
+To call you retarded for posting a youtube video, outing that you get your "education" from youtubers.
+First time on 4chan?
+--- 136730970
+>>136730575
+>You are making the mistake that we can't vote them out.
+You can't vote out the CEO of Raytheon, anon, much less the faceless unelected government bureaucrats that contract with him all the time.
+--- 136730975
+>>136730927
+>The person that wins an election 9 times out of 10 is the one with more campaign financing
+Ahh yes, and by your logic this is just a natural state of affairs we should embrace instead of the result of loss of regulation on campaign finance (aka Citizens United)
+
+God damn you're stupid
+--- 136730985
+>>136730780
+Where you gets yours, then? From the school system? Cable news?
+--- 136731013
+>>136727998 (OP)
+Based Florida won
+--- 136731029
+>>136730975
+Anon for fuck sake your solution to campaign contribution corruption is to give the current elected officials, who are corrupt corporate sleazebags, the authority to decide what and what doesn't count as proper campaign finance. How the hell do you not see how unbelievably stupid that is? That's the equivalent of saying we should regulate police brutality by letting the police define what constitues police brutality.
+--- 136731060
+>>136730963
+>posting a youtube video
+Oh, right, how dare I. The only reason anyone would do that is because they're a raging sycophant for the uploader and not because they think it adds some kind of perspective to the topic. God, what was I thinking. Jesus wept, etc.
+--- 136731070
+>>136728204
+>not knowing they were gutted long ago so corporations can pretty much do whatever they want
+Welcome to the party
+--- 136731093
+>>136730985
+>Oh yeah, where were you educated? A SCHOOL!?
+incredible
+>>136731029
+>Anon literally has no knowledge of campaign finance law and presumably thinks there aren't any
+At a certain point I'll stop being surprised by how confidently retarded people can be
+But not today
+
+I guess I shouldn't be too surprised when the OP is an outright fabrication about the content of its article, this thread is basically selecting for dumbasses the same way a nigerian scam email riddled with errors selects for easy marks.
+--- 136731095
+>>136730963
+Don't bother, I recognize that guys retarted argument methods. There's no point in discussing anything with him.
+--- 136731125
+>>136731095
+>retarted [sic.] argument methods
+You will fail to name an example.
+--- 136731147
+>>136727998 (OP)
+If this happens we’re fucking done as a society. Both of these companies are responsible for the most soulless and corporate trends in our culture and want to be so synonymous with our daily lives that we can’t live without them. This would create an unstoppable monster.
+--- 136731182
+>>136731093
+>Anon doesn't realize legislation is written by those in the government
+>anon is too stupid to see why having a corrupt organization writing legislation may be a bad idea
+Anon why do you lick the government boot so fiercely?
+--- 136731183
+>>136728768
+>>136728887
+Thread should have ended here
+--- 136731201
+>>136731147
+FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER
+--- 136731206
+>>136731147
+That's what people said about Sears
+--- 136731219
+>>136730816
+you are ill. Seek help.
+--- 136731262
+>>136730963
+>>136731060
+It's obvious your problem isn't "muh youtube," by the way, because a YouTube video could be just about anything. No, something triggered you about it to preemptively dismiss it and convince everyone else to dismiss it without engaging in a single argument.
+>lol razorsimp
+Sure. Happy?
+--- 136731282
+>>136731147
+On the other hand, buying Disney might be like injecting oneself with cancer. If the ideologues were able to take Disney from "too big to fail" to "constantly being dogged by merger rumors" in the span of a few years, what's to say they won't do the same to Apple? In fact, what's the last mega-merger between tech and entertainment to turn out well for anybody?
+Bring it on, I say. I've got enough popcorn for a decade.
+--- 136732822
+>>136727998 (OP)
+…why?
+--- 136733052
+>>136730212
+I can assure you, the vast majority of what you use to live your life is backed by some government or another.
+Even the internet you are using to post here is supported by state action, let alone the farm subsidies for your food, or the roads you drive on or public transportation you use.
+--- 136733067
+>>136730575
+>accountability
+How do you ensure accountability without a government?
+It has been proven repeatedly that consumers alone do not have enough pressure to hold companies accountable for bad behavior on there own
+--- 136733119
+>>136732822
+>Retard bumps shit thread back to life
+--- 136733328
+>>136727998 (OP)
+Big if true!
+--- 136733439
+>>136730736
+All of which is overpriced trash. Mobile games are underdesigned shovelware or predatory bullshit or both and Macs tend to be low end shit relegated to specific fields and uses with inferior program support because they're less fucking popular than fucking PCs.
+
+Not to mention their phones are literally designed to fail and when they somehow don't they push out firmware updates that fucking make them fail. If you give Apple any fucking money ever, you're a fucking idiot. I'd say the only companies worse employ slavery, but they do that shit too.
+
+We need to push for more human rights in China, more regulation on fucking mobile games, right to repair, and peripheral compatibility. Fuck Apple.
+--- 136733929
+>>136733439
+Dude I don't even own any Apple products. The question was how does Apple make all that money, not whether their products are actually good. Their products are ass and their business model is shady and abusive, but so is most every other company in their weight class so I assumed that went without saying.
+--- 136734419
+>>136727998 (OP)
+https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2022/08/26/feds-reportedly-preparing-antitrust-suit-against-apple/?sh=aa8840952d2c
+
+Tim Cook would be the biggest retard in American business history if he acquires Disney while apple is already in the middle of an anti-trust suit
+--- 136734447
+>>136728062
+Legit this one seems impossible. Then again didn't Fox get bought recently.
+--- 136734468
+>>136728887
+pretty good troll desu
+--- 136734628
+>>136728067
+Eating nothing but fruit to treat his pancreatic cancer
+--- 136734660
+Eventually all media will be owned and produced by the Big 4; Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet and Amazon, all 3 of whom have a market cap above a trillion dollars. If Apple buys Disney, one of the other 3 will put Warner Brothers out of it's misery.
+
+WBD has a market cap of 34 billion (down 40% on the year and imo overvalued), it's a small fish to be gobbled.
+--- 136734674
+>>136734660
+*all 4
+--- 136734747
+>>136729736
+Not apple devices, that's for sure. Servers, datacenters etc. run on amd/nvidia/intel hardware and linux. Most business and public sector workstations are chinese prebuilts running Windows or in some cases linux distros. Apple markets itself to rich americans, "creatives", and poor minorities who worship the iphone as a status symbol.
+--- 136734790
+>>136733052
+>acting like those subsidies don't actively make things worse
+For fuck sakes the corn subsidies alone have made it so we as a society had to literally come up with new ways to use corn rather than produce healthier and more manageable crops than corn.
+--- 136734872
+>>136730099
+>Let me dumb this down for you. You can't combat a monopoly by making the government into a monopoly itself.
+
+Worked for Teddy.
+
+The alternative you seem to be implying is let businesses regulate themselves and they'll keep a check on themselves. Sounds like the same logic behind tickle down economics.
+--- 136734919
+>>136728229
+There’s like two generations that have been rause to hate Apple.
+--- 136735015
+>>136734872
+>Worked for Teddy.
+ His regulations actually made Things way worse. In fact all of the conpanies he went after still exist today.
+--- 136735027
+>>136730347
+
+Tarrifing the shit out of everything tends to do nothing if you have no plan to spur dead industries. Private sector isn't going to trust the word of gov alone because they know damn well it changes every 2-4 years. 
+
+For all Biden's ills, at least the fucker is putting into motion plans and money to encourage factories to build in America even after he is long dead.
+--- 136735062
+>>136731093
+>At a certain point I'll stop being surprised by how confidently retarded people can be
+
+But he's right. One of the most popular issues among voters is term limits and fiance reform. Both things that go no where for either side because they love their full pockets and lifetime positions.
+--- 136735066
+>>136735027
+I'm gonna take
+>bullshit that isn't happening
+For 500 alex
+--- 136735123
+>>136735066
+>Microchip factories are just magicing themselves into thin air
+--- 136735682
+>>136734919
+Like most midwits, you vastly overestimate the numbers of angry hating midwits on the internet.
+--- 136736274
+I don't think this rumor is new, but personally, it doesn't make enough sense for Apple to buy Disney.
+These analysts are only focusing on streaming wars, which apple isn't even really participating in. It's dumb just to look at the money and just the streaming wars since there's a lot more going on with these companies then that.
+
+>Apple is in the consumer electronics business, they don't have a lot of experience in the movie business, specifically with movie theaters and cinema.
+>Also they don't have any experience with Theme parks, cruises, and resorts.
+>Drama with the state of Florida
+>corporate cultures don't really mesh that well
+And a whole bunch of other stuff, etc.
+
+They could acquire Disney, sure, but it might be more trouble than it's worth, especially now since not every branch of disney is profitable.
+The only real substance to a business deal between the two companies, I think, is if Disney+ fails, they can either partner or give apple first dibs on any licensing deals with any movies and tv shows.
+--- 136736685
+>>136736274
+>These analysts are only focusing on streaming wars, which apple isn't even really participating in
+That doesn't mean Apple isn't interested in it. Hell, I'm surprised that Apple made Tetris for their Apple TV+
+--- 136736731
+>>136728177
+Moloch wills it.
+--- 136736766
+>>136727998 (OP)
+society has a severe lack of men with absolutely nothing to lose. I think the internet provided an endless torrent of free content on demand is why these things haven't been Shinzo Abe'd
+--- 136736891
+>>136729915
+>Anarcho-Syndicalism
+The Kaiserreich ideology? Why not just anarchism with out the hyphens?
+--- 136737119
+>>136734660
+Amazon already buying MGM means they’re not going to be able to buy another studio without a ton of regulatory scrutiny for several years.
+Alphabet buying out a studio should make anyone nervous considering their habit of abandoning ideas
+--- 136737693
+>>136728731
+Like NBC being owned by GE, a division of the Shineheart Wig corporation
+--- 136737985
+>>136729633
+You got a whole generation that grew up on iPod, brand loyalty is a scary thing. Not only that, but Apple managed to trick a shit ton of rich retarded and poor retarded that slapping an Apple logo on a piece of shit device makes it "premium", so rich fags buy Apple as a statement, poor fags spend what little they make on over expensive ear buds cause it's some sort of poor fag cope. Apple is just a social status brand, it means you must be wealthy, so poor fags embarrassed to be poor fags remain poor fags cause a decent pair of $20 ear buds is not good enough.
+--- 136738970
+>>136728067
+He’s dead
+--- 136739178
+>>136733439
+>Not to mention their phones are literally designed to fail and when they somehow don't they push out firmware updates that fucking make them fail.
+
+Bro, I have a working iPhone 7 and first gen iPad Pro. When did apple make these things that clearly still work, fail?
+--- 136739237
+>>136734872
+>tickle down economics.
+Oh my god. That’s what I’m going to call it from now on
+--- 136739256
+Fuck it, do it! Then we can have one all encompassing enemy to fight against!
+--- 136739962
+>>136727998 (OP)
+
+a CEO cannot sell the company. that would have to be voted on by the board and shareholders. the board can hire and fire a CEO. the CEO does not own the company they are just the face behind the real power of any major corporation. the board of directors controls the company
+
+goddamn people are stupid
+--- 136740002
+>>136727998 (OP)
+>Disney under Apple
+>Fox under Apple
+>Marvel under Apple
+
+Something about sits me the wrong way
+--- 136740059
+>>136730816
+You are well. Keep it up.
+--- 136740710
+>>136727998 (OP)
+We should boycott the evil and corrupt company of today called Disney! If necessary, burn that company to the ground! Boycott Disney! Boycott!
+--- 136740772
+>>136735123
+>>136735027
+>>136730324
+It's is something that DJT started and the pandemic accelerated but this was in the making since 2018 when Washington realized it could get away with dictating terms as brazenly and Donald did. 
+Though particularly on the GOP side this had always been pondered as an option, where as the Democratic Party preferred diplomatic tools like the TPP. Never the less, the business wing of the party felt trepidations about losing access to cheap labor abroad and never seriously raised the issue besides rhetorical pandering until DJT practically forced the party co-sign his agenda. Since then there is no appetite in Washington or among the American public as a whole to recant the measures even in the face of tremendous strain for the Chinese economy still reeling from economic instability and the pandemic. In fact the Biden Admin has only expanded them and since then initiated measures to further isolate China as a global rival such as banning its access to advanced lithography technology. The whole affair seems to have solidified the notion in the minds of many in Beijing that the United States would be content for China to collapse which isn't far from the truth. Despite the rhetoric on both sides decrying JRB's alleged ties to the CCP the stone is seemingly inexorably rolling in the direction of decoupling.
+--- 136741718
+>>136727998 (OP)
+>more and more consolidation
+at what point does the government step in and do its fucking job? or are the corporations the real government at this point, considering how disney is currently assraping the florida state government for all the world to see?
+--- 136741799
+>>136730816
+Your accuracy makes people uncomfortable. Good.
+--- 136741987
+>>136739962
+Why you think they hired Iger again out of nowhere
+--- 136742050
+>>136741987
+
+doesnt matter.. he cannot sell the company he has no control to do that. hes just the puppet behind the puppet master.
+--- 136742114
+>>136742050
+That’s kinda the point though?
+They bring him in if the board and large shareholders want to at least some degree to have him be the transition to an acquisition
+--- 136743701
+>>136727998 (OP)
+No

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+-----
+--- 136728505
+>nambla was real
+
+WHAT THE FUCK
+--- 136728521
+>>136728505 (OP)
+>Jews are real
+WHAT THE FUCK
+--- 136728525
+i swear we have this thread like every month
+
+that aside, was this the first instance of SP not even pissing around with the 'i learned something today' joke at the end, and just saying it straight? cause it feels like it was and if so then its probably the bottleneck for the unfunny shit they do today
+--- 136728533
+Yeah, you’re a card carrying member of it, OP
+--- 136728540
+>>136728533
+Everyone that is still watching South Park should get one
+--- 136729015
+>>136728505 (OP)
+How else are you supposed to find other Marlon Brando lookalikes?
+--- 136729024
+>>136728505 (OP)
+yeah, it's called the democrat party
+--- 136729041
+>>136728505 (OP)
+Yes, and scientologists actually believe in the galactic overlord Xenu as the root of earth's problems.
+--- 136729068
+>>136728505 (OP)
+Friendly reminder that the ADL defended NAMBLA
+--- 136729844
+>>136729068
+American Duck Larpers? Never trusted those ducks.
+--- 136730054
+>>136728505 (OP)
+Yes, and here is a trivia:
+
+The modern gay rights movement has an actual timeline, you know. It hasn't been a nebulous struggle-effort since the dawn of time.
+
+The modern predecessor of current gay rights activism, the Gay Liberation Movement, was spearheaded predominantly by pedophilia advocates such as:
+>Harry "NAMBLA Walks With Me" Hay, founder of the first sustained gay rights group in the United States
+>Boston's Gay Men's Liberation (Wished to remove legal limits on age-discriminatory relationships and allow 24-hour "community child-rearing" centers where gays could participate in helping rear legally emancipated children)
+>The Gay and Lesbians Activists Alliance being springboarded by the NYC Gay Activist's Alliance, one of the first post-Stonewall Gay Rights organizations founded by NAMBLA founder and open pedophile David Thorstad
+--- 136730460
+>>136730054
+This is why I, someone who currently identifies as homosexual, has never supported the alphabet community, i just don't trust activist movements at all.
+Behind all that façade of pride, love and happiness lies a very dark secret.
+--- 136730555
+>>136728505 (OP)
+>Nambla is real
+>Namibia is real
+>Namaqualand is real
+>'Nam is real
+Why did nobody tell me...
+--- 136731146
+>>136730054
+Hey, NAMBLA may have organised the first gay rights march stateside, but they were also the first group thrown out.
+Don't blame gays and trannies for pedos when it's the Church, the BBC, and the fucking British police protecting them.
+--- 136731197
+>>136730054
+How the fuck did I never know about any of this shit?
+--- 136731205
+>>136731146
+I also agree on this, the Vatican is truly the cancer killing religion
+--- 136731239
+>>136731146
+They'll be readmitted as soon as the fight moves on to "Minor Attracted Persons" rights.
+--- 136731267
+>>136728521
+Stop blaming jews, fascist
+--- 136731281
+>>136728505 (OP)
+>Doodlie Doodlie Dah...
+--- 136731301
+>>136728525
+I think it may have been but it still took a few more seasons for it to become more prevalent. Them doing it unironically also coincided with them more heavily leaning on the "episode about current hot topic of the week" style of episode too
+--- 136731558
+>>136730054
+>It's another Christfags try and shift the blame of their own organizations that product pedos onto the gays
+
+Call me when we're not getting a new Youth Preacher or Priest fucking a kid and the organizations covering it up for a week. Pedos are universal problem
+--- 136731612
+>>136731558
+>>136731146
+>muh church
+Anon, the rate of pedophilia on the gay rights movement is astronomically immense compared to any priests of any kind. You attempt of "whatabouthis" is patethic.
+--- 136731625
+>>136731558
+>muh youth pastors!
+
+>gays lie to become preists and pastors
+>gays take over the organization.
+>gays start molesting kids.
+>Since gays took over the organization they have all the power to cover it up.
+
+>It's not the gays fault! We need to destroy Christianity and Jesus!
+--- 136731627
+>>136731146
+>Don't blame gays and trannies for pedos
+Trannies reproduce by grooming the young tho.
+--- 136731650
+>>136728505 (OP)
+All white.
+--- 136731680
+NAMBLA used to have open protests in the 70's and were part of the early gay rights movement. They memoryholed the fuck out of this, but it happened.
+--- 136731737
+>>136731558
+Anon why is it lgbt apologists like you always deflect with "muh church" arguments? Like do you assume that makes pedophilia all of a sudden a-okay? I know this may shock you but you can hate conservative pedophiles and liberal pedophiles at the same time. When you do shit like this and just deflect you look less like someone defending an oppressed group and more like someone defending those that fuck literal children.
+--- 136731875
+>>136731737
+>>136731612
+>>136731625
+It's not a deflection. It's simply the fact that for all your anti pedophile championing you're never going to hold the church accountable in the same way you hold the gays.
+
+I mean, it's the gays who are keeping child marriage from being banned in the south after all. Your posturing is boring and I'd much rather you just say you hate gay people than try and justify it with a fake moral panic, since you'd at least be honest.
+--- 136731882
+>>136728521
+Fpbp
+--- 136731933
+>>136731146
+>>136731205
+>>136731558
+>Reddit.com
+--- 136731940
+>>136731875
+>you're never going to hold the church accountable in the same way you hold the gays.
+Anon, everyone talks about the erros of the church, nobody talks about your kind having its roots in straight up defending and championing pedophilia on USA. And again, the rates among homossexuals compared to any other religion is ridiculous, you guys just do much more of that.
+
+And yes, it's literally deflection and "whataboutthism". Pretty patethic.
+--- 136731954
+>>136730460
+Based chad
+--- 136731970
+>>136731940
+When someone accuses a wokies of grooming, the wokies doesn't defend them--they say, "Well what about..."
+
+They are trying to make grooming normal behavior.
+--- 136731974
+>>136731146
+>tu quoque
+--- 136732382
+>>136731558
+Do I need to get the chart?
+--- 136732500
+>>136731875
+>church accountable
+Well yeah, the church isn't accountable for it. It's the gay pedos that are. I hate gay pedos. the church teaches to stone gay pedos. When a priest turns out to be a gay pedo I don't start hating Jesus. It wasn't Jesus's fault, it's the pay pedos fault.
+--- 136732537
+>>136732382
+This doesn’t tell us the frequency of pedophiles per job
+--- 136732591
+>>136732537
+it sort of does.
+--- 136732600
+>>136732537
+The percentage of abusive priests is less than or equal to the general population while teachers are slightly higher.
+https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/do-the-right-thing/201808/separating-facts-about-clergy-abuse-fiction
+--- 136732610
+>>136732537
+teachers work 5 days a week, priests only 1 or 2 days a week
+--- 136732629
+>>136732610
+Priests perform mass all week and have various parish duties.
+--- 136732676
+>>136732610
+Teachers also aren't protected by the school system like bad priests are by the church. Maybe a super attendant or some shit could pull some strings but if people find out Joe Schmoe that teaches History is a nonce he's getting his ass gone.
+--- 136732711
+>>136732537
+66 million people under 18
+30 thousand cases per year
+So, 1/2300 children are molested every year or about a 1/200 chance of being a pedo victim during 12 years of schooling 
+Brutal
+--- 136732719
+>>136732676
+I remember being in high school and it being pretty normal for teachers to lock themselves in classrooms and do anything with the girls, you could even get in trouble with the principal for peeking on them. maybe they are not protected right now but back in the 90's they were backed up by their own mafia.
+--- 136732739
+>>136732500
+And when the churches shuffle around child molesters, and lets them continue to molest children, is the church not to blame?
+--- 136732831
+>>136732676
+>Teachers also aren't protected by the school system like bad priests are by the church.
+HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
+--- 136732858
+>>136732739
+
+Not him, but this is getting ridiculous. See >>136731737
+--- 136732874
+>>136732676
+>Teachers also aren't protected by the school system like bad priests are by the church.
+Teachers get transferred all the time while accused priests get thrown under the bus by the bishop even if they didn't do anything.
+--- 136732996
+I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS I HATE /POL/TARDS
+--- 136733047
+>>136732996
+Sure thing pedo boy
+--- 136733081
+>>136731612
+No, it really isn't. There's whole sets of investigations and studies finding that the average supporter of the current gay rights movement is actually a little *less* likely to be a child molester then the average person.
+
+Remember when the guy the Heritage Foundation hired *for the express purpose* of convincing people the gays were all pedos was himself arrested for molesting several young girls, including a couple of his own sisters?
+--- 136733105
+>>136733081
+>erm actually 
+Show the study pedo boy
+--- 136733133
+>>136731239
+Not actually a thing.
+
+As in Pedophilia is a real thing, but the concept of "Minor Attracted Persons Rights Advocates" was something /pol/ made up and tried to tack onto the LGBT to discredit it.
+--- 136733134
+>>136732996
+I hate you faggots that heard someone say "/co/ is love" once then using that kind of language as a cudgel to drive away everything you disagree with while never actually being present on this board when underage faggots started posting that flowery bullshit in the first place.
+--- 136733158
+>>136732996
+>Posts a legit "groomer" who brainwash kids 
+Yeah it tracks
+--- 136733176
+>>136731625
+Religion justifies fucking little girls more than boys tbf
+--- 136733180
+>>136733081
+>verage supporter of the current gay rights
+I'm talking about actual gays here.
+--- 136733191
+>>136731558
+Do I have to be a bible thumper to fear pedos or something?
+--- 136733203
+>>136733133
+>but the concept of "Minor Attracted Persons Rights Advocates" was something /pol/ made up and tried to tack onto the LGBT to discredit it.
+A quick search shows that this is not the case.
+--- 136733222
+>>136733133
+Can you not gaslight?
+--- 136733261
+>>136732996
+>Fire and demon like man that kidnaps, grooms, and brainwashing kids hat "pol" tards
+>996 (666)
+Go to hell Satan.
+--- 136733272
+Have you guys notice that this tactic of diversion is always used by these faggots, to change the subject of the conversation from us pointing out that their movement has direct ties with pedos.
+
+>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2086634/
+>The issue of man/boy love has intersected the gay movement since the late nineteenth century, with the rise of the first gay rights movement in Germany. In the United States, as the gay movement has retreated from its vision of sexual freedom for all in favor of integration into existing social and political structures, it has sought to marginalize cross-generational love as a "non-gay" issue. The two movements continue to overlap, amid signs of mutual support as well as tension--a state of affairs that also characterizes their interrelationship in other countries. This article offers an overview and analysis of that interrelationship in the United States since the Stonewall Riots in New York City in June 1969, which marked the beginning of a reinvigorated struggle for gay liberation.
+--- 136733385
+>>136733272
+Pedophila should be an unanimously hated concept. No matter the pedo's occupation, political belief or sexual orientation.
+--- 136733575
+Can you blane em?
+
+> You can only pick one /co/
+--- 136733899
+>>136731970
+>When someone accuses a wokies of grooming, the wokies doesn't defend them--they say, "Well what about..."
+got some examples?
+--- 136733917
+>>136733575
+I pick the fire to put your head in
+--- 136733935
+>>136728521
+/thread
+--- 136733971
+>>136731146
+>British police protecting them
+they only protect the non-white immigrant groomers to avoid le hecking racism
+--- 136733973
+>>136733899
+see>>136731558
+--- 136734040
+>>136733917
+
+Aren’t you supposed to be in school or eating crumpets with tea
+--- 136734095
+>>136730054
+>>136731197
+The early (and current tbqh) gay rights movement along with most of the other social revolution movements of the time had STRONG ties to the communist movement in America and Marxist thought in general. This """relationship""" led to the bizarre and often extreme blending of ideals especially within the various sexual liberation movements. Around the turn of the century however, once it was abundantly obvious no great revolution would occur, most of this stuff was pushed to the sidelines and heavily downplayed/ignored entirely in an effort to better appeal to mainstream America. Don't be fooled into believing it no longer exists though, it's just been whitewashed.
+--- 136734129
+>>136731875
+>it's the gays who are keeping child marriage from being banned in the south after all
+Why do people bring up the child marriage laws in the south when there are literally a dozen of states that already allow child marriage? Interestingly enough most of them being blue states.
+--- 136734138
+>>136731146
+What do big black cocks have to do with this?
+--- 136734610
+>>136734095
+>had STRONG ties to the communist movement in America and Marxist thought in general.
+dud. Communism saw that people were happy with meme capitalism and gave no shit about the commie revolution. So the communists focused/focus on "social issues" instead
+--- 136734670
+>>136731875
+>the church accountable in the same way you hold the gays
+nigga, the church recieved the gays because gays are the "poor" and the "sick" too. some of these gays became priests. theology will not make you gay just because
+--- 136734740
+Anyone else ever watch that documentary "Chicken Hawk"
+--- 136735164
+>>136728505 (OP)
+Was?
+--- 136735187
+>>136734740
+No, what is it?
+--- 136735254
+>>136730054
+>sources: trust me bro
+--- 136735329
+>>136734740
+>Chicken Hawk
+Link? usual pages return nada
+
+>>136735187
+>No, what is it?
+Basically To Catch a Predator: The Movie
+--- 136735340
+>>136735187
+1994 movie where members of NAMBLA give interviews and try to explain their lifestyles and obsession with little boys.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygrd29-_O3I [Embed]
+--- 136735589
+>>136731267
+>"jews are real"
+>melts
+--- 136735611
+>>136728505 (OP)
+>was
+--- 136735709
+Thread: Turning this into just another little chunk of your bullshit culture war is disgusting. 
+The people least able to protect themselves are just pieces in your disgusting little game. 
+I generally don’t believe in the afterlife, bit I will make an exception here: Hell waits for you all.
+--- 136735820
+>>136735254
+Look it up.
+--- 136735837
+>>136729068
+The what?
+--- 136736641
+>>136735709
+Yep. All fucking vultures.
+--- 136736834
+>>136731301
+this is among the things that killed SP
+--- 136737794
+Taking this shitshow back to the cartoon: Do you think we'll see a South Park version of Desmond Is Amazing? I'm a little suprised they haven't done that yet.
+--- 136737876
+>>136730054
+Meanwhile, in modern day Missouri, Republicans are fighting to preserve child marriage
+--- 136737949
+>>136735709
+>pedo-pologist warns others they're going to hell
+The irony
+--- 136737974
+>>136737876
+See >>136734129
+--- 136738473
+>>136737974
+Anon, the proper response to seeing someone who advocates for child marriage is to call them disgusting, not resort to whataboutism
+--- 136738582
+>>136738473
+Just pointing out the hypocrisy of criticizing one states actions while condoning the others. That's not whataboutism. Unless of course you agree that those states should also end their child marriage laws that effect far more people than those trying to legalize it.
+--- 136738699
+>>136738473
+This is a weird post coming from somebody that literally posted >>136737876 as a whataboutism
+
+The truth is that >>136731940 and >>136731737
+--- 136738771
+>*scrolls through the thread*
+>anons being outraged at exposure to "History of Male Homosexuality 101"
+>barely-above-/pol/-tier, "culture war"-framed discourse
+
+*sigh...*
+
+https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Boylove_Documentary_Sourcebook
+--- 136738779
+>>136728521
+This is the Pay.
+--- 136738849
+>>136728505 (OP)
+Same reaction I had with Scientology.
+--- 136739192
+>>136734129
+>>136737974
+>>136738473
+>>136738582
+Child marriage is fine if it's male/female. It's not fine otherwise.
+--- 136740478
+>>136728505 (OP)
+>WHAT THE FUCK
+Did you know it took Lesbians and Feminists to drag Gay Rights Activists away from supporting pedos.
+--- 136740590
+>>136730054
+And Stonewall was literaly gays rioting because the police took away their child prostitutes (aged 10 to 15)
+--- 136741059
+>>136739192
+Pedo hets are disgusting freaks who use homo pedos as a scapegoat.
+--- 136742203
+>>136730054
+Yes but it's all okay because it's god's chosen people doing it
+--- 136743087
+>>136741059
+
+And vice versa, let's be real here.
+--- 136743130
+>>136741059
+How exactly that works? 
+Because I'm the thread somebody explained the origin of NAMBLA, and an anon immediately tried to scapegoat it because he knew that the gay movent had ties with it.
+--- 136743199
+>>136734740
+>>136735340
+>>>/cm/
+--- 136743579
+>>136730054
+Harry Hay was banned by LGBT activist groups nationwide and opposed the integration of gays into society, and the Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance was founded by Joel Martin and Paul Kuntzler with the Gay Activists Alliance founded by Lee Deacon. At least get your facts straight.
+
+Republicans are fighting to preserve child marriage right now in the US, they just don't care if it's girls being hurt by older men. Worldwide, the most homophobic states do very little to stop child abuse, Saudi Arabia lets men rape girls aged in the single digits and most heavily Catholic countries covered up abuse before the church took power. Mormons allow sister marriages and child marriages. Trump has like 20 standing rape accusations including from children, not surprising since he ran "beauty pageants" for teenagers and boasted about spying on them.
+--- 136743742
+>>136734129
+Many ot those southern states with a "floor" set it at like 14 and several of those states have since enacted bans.

co/136728555.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,75 @@
+-----
+--- 136728555
+>LAST WEEK IN CAROL
+Captain Marvel #48
+X-Men #21
+>THIS WEEK IN CAROL
+Avengers Assemble: Omega #1
+
+Last week's thread: >>136571755 →
+--- 136728710
+Good morning
+--- 136728736
+weekly reminder Kamala Khan is easy to hypnotize
+--- 136729131
+Avengers #1 Preview
+--- 136729190
+>>136729131
+I hate this artist faces
+--- 136729562
+>>136729190
+I like him.
+--- 136730022
+>captain marvel
+disgusting. captain ocean is much better.
+--- 136730137
+>>136729942
+If Carol really cared about continuing Mar-Vell's legacy she'd have a Skrull princess girlfriend by now.
+--- 136730396
+>>136730137
+You have to find skrull princess first
+--- 136730573
+>>136730396
+Done
+--- 136730677
+>>136730616
+Nice abs!
+--- 136730881
+>>136730520 →
+>Captain Marvel #50: 06/07/23 » 06/14/23
+--- 136732293
+>>136730022
+Does she not get much fanart I haven't seen a new one in a while
+--- 136732601
+>>136728555 (OP)
+SEXO WITH CAROL’S BUT!!!
+--- 136732774
+>>136732293
+She has a surprising amount for a channel her size and for the content she makes. I've seen v-tubers with more subs who do more frequent, more popular content with less fan art than her.
+--- 136733129
+>>136732601
+But what?
+>>136732873 →
+Vell stuff
+--- 136733515
+>>136733129
+>Slott
+no thanks
+--- 136734742
+>>136734636
+>”This character is a 5’11 woman pretty face, slamming titties and a Luscious Lopez ass.”
+>”Let’s hire someone who is the complete opposite to play her!”
+--- 136735691
+>>136729562
+--- 136744558
+You guys know where I can read X-Men free?
+--- 136744567
+>>136744558
+Last week's?
+>>136597326 →
+--- 136744626
+>>136744567
+I wanna read house of x, powers of x
+--- 136744677
+>>136741984
+Carol getting prepped to beat me up <3

co/136729033.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,237 @@
+-----
+--- 136729033
+Remember when Harley Quinn put explosives in video game consoles in order to kill a bunch of children to get Mister J's attention? And yet we're expected to buy her as a heroic figure now?
+--- 136729049
+#GIRLBOSS
+--- 136729180
+>>136729033 (OP)
+Not canon and she's not a villain. She a victim of joker manipulation. I don't see you trolls posting panels of a Superman destroying a city and saying that he should be held accountable. GOD I HATE THIS DOUBLE STANDARD.
+--- 136729381
+>>136729033 (OP)
+Women can do no wrong shitlord. Besides those kids were probably icky male gamer nerds and were going to harass women and minorities if she hadn't killed them.
+--- 136729388
+Someone post the list of mass murders and terrorist acts caused by Magneto.
+--- 136729552
+>>136729180
+>I don't see you trolls posting panels of a Superman destroying a city and saying that he should be held accountable
+I got memes of it, tranny. How about you start?
+--- 136729746
+She's a female and therefore has never done anything wrong. If you think she has done something wrong it is actually a male's fault. 
+
+Now subscribe to her onlyfans.
+--- 136729783
+>>136729381
+--- 136730830
+>>136729033 (OP)
+Leaving aside all the literal groomer shit, Deathstroke once nuked Bludhaven just to fuck with Nightwing. And then he doubled down on being super genocidal evil in Dark Crisis.
+--- 136731105
+>>136729180
+People throw shitfit tantrums over the climax of Superman Returns all the fucking time, what are you on about dipshit?
+--- 136732101
+>>136729388
+Lost the picture, but had it in notepad when it was originally posted to copypasta when people post retarded "Magneto was Right" drivel:
+
+>Attack on Cape Citadel missile base, 1963
+>Conquest of Santo Marco, 1964
+>Attempted to nuke Santo Marco, 1964
+>Attempted to nuke New York, 1964
+>Led various Brotherhood attacks on the USA, 1964-1965
+>Attacks on international shipping using a giant magnet, 1964
+>Kidnapped Angel's parents to harvest for DNA to create a slave army of mutants, 1965
+>Attacked the UN, demanding they give him his own mutant nation, 1968
+>Attempted to enslave all humanity with a mind control machine, 1968
+>Forcibly transformed people of the Savage Land into mutates, building an army intended to conquer the Savage Land and then the world, 1969
+>Allied with Atlantis to invade New York, 1970
+>Attacked a research facility to steal an experimental power source, intent on using it to power his Universe Machine that would turn people into mutants, 1971-1972
+>Attempted to take control of every nuclear reactor in the USA, to irradiate the country, killing most humans and turning the survivors into mutants, 1973
+>Attacked the UN Building again, taking everyone hostage and demanding the world surrender to him, 1974
+>Attacks a SHIELD research base to kidnap and enslave the smallest man in the world, 1977
+>Attacked research bases in Australia and New Zealand, stealing equipment to rebuild Asteroid M, 1978
+>Threatens to end all life on Earth unless everyone surrenders to him, sinks a Russian submarine, killing it's crew, destroys the city of Varykino by creating a volcano inside it, 1981
+>Put on trial for his crimes, used a mind control device to compel a court to set him free, 1987
+>Attacks New York to fight Spider-Man, 1989
+>Causes destruction at a refinery in LA, 1990
+(1/2)
+--- 136732117
+>>136729388
+>>136732101
+>Threatens the world with nuclear warheads, detonates a warhead over Russian airspace, attacks Genosha, 1991
+>Lowers a massive space station into the atmosphere, causing destructive winds, tides and storms across the world, 1993
+>Caused a worldwide electromagnetic pulse, shutting off all electrical equipment, killing untold numbers through plane and car crashes, hospitals losing power, etc, 1993 
+>Murdered an old man who once created forged documents for one of his fake identities, 1998
+>Destroyed a building in LA just so he could bully a man into admitting to being scared of what mutants can do, 1999
+>Shut off all electricity worldwide again, to blackmail the UN into giving him a nation, 1999
+>Brutally crushed all native Genoshan resistance to his rule, human and mutant alike, 1999-2000
+>Oppressed humans in Genosha to drive them out of the country, 2001
+>About to go to lead Genosha to war against the world, only stopped by Wolverine stabbing him, 2001
+>Attacked LA again, 2008
+(2/2)
+--- 136732142
+>>136729180
+>Not canon
+DC canon's a joke.
+--- 136732180
+>>136732142
+It's unironically the worst continuity of any big franchise.
+--- 136732197
+>>136732101
+>>136732117
+You left out
+>Fathered the mentally unstable omega Polaris that's 1 psychotic break away from ending all life on earth at any given moment.
+Like they literally had to get a death god to magically temporarily hold her brain together and that death god's currently reincarnated into fucking Shatterstar who can't even use her powers, so if she goes off the reservation again, everyone is fucked.
+--- 136732402
+>>136732197
+I figured that's just standard "mutants are the worst parents ever" like Mystique, Cyclops, and Wolverine so I completely overlooked that, but on that note, add how Magneto tried to kill Wanda and Pietro, and threatened to have the former raped by Toad.
+--- 136732810
+>>136732197
+That can't really be blamed on Mags. Unlike the constant manipulation of Pietro that led to House of M and Decimation.
+
+>>136732402
+He didn't threaten, he just allowed Toad and Mastermind to sexually harass a young teenage girl and only stepped in when he thought Wanda and Pietro might bail because of it.
+--- 136734034
+>>136732197
+I wrote that list way back when the Trial of Magneto mini was announced and his simps were pretending he'd done nothing wrong, but it was just a list of his crimes against humans, if we added in mutant-on-mutant crimes and the things he's done to his own followers we'd be here all day.
+
+>>136732810
+>and only stepped in when he thought Wanda and Pietro might bail because of it.
+And tortured her for trying to bail. There are valid reasons the twins always hated him.
+--- 136734045
+>>136729033 (OP)
+Juggernaut did a 9/11 before 9/11.
+--- 136734267
+>>136732810
+>That can't really be blamed on Mags
+Her mental illness stems from her killing her stepfather and mother in a plane crash when her powers activated which was itself caused by herpowers prematurely going wild by the trauma of being caught in a fight between her parents when her stepfather found out she was the product of an affair.
+
+So yes, it can actually be directly blamed on Mags. He and his lover keeping secret the origin of his daughter laid the groundwork for a sharp emotional trauma around someone who he knew could potentially have potentially deadly/world ending powers activated by emotional trauma.
+
+They don't keep the affair a secret>Polaris doesn't kill her parents>she doesn't get a lifelong threat of potentially world-ending mental scars that have to be suppressed with magic (which is fucking gone, btw, Krakoa should be freaking the fuck out)
+--- 136734862
+>>136734034
+Yeah, the Twins should despise Mags with every fiber of their beings.
+
+>>136734267
+That's way too indirect to really blame him though. Unintended consequences, sure, but he wasn't the one having a fight about Lorna's parentage in front of her while flying a plane.
+--- 136734958
+>>136730830
+How do your Nuke a city with a non radioactive bomb?
+--- 136735916
+>>136734958
+Colloquially.
+--- 136737380
+>>136732197
+>>136734267
+What book did all this happen in? Whose retarded idea was it to do all that to turn a character like Polaris into an insane potential world-ender?
+
+>>136734862
+We went from the 2000s where Marvel pretending Magneto is good led to writers thinking if the twins hated him, they must be the ones who are crazy and bad, to the modern era where Marvel are trying to pander to a vocal group of idiots who want them all be a happy family of supporting characters to Magneto, no matter how out of character everyone has to be written to make it happen.
+--- 136737523
+>>136729033 (OP)
+Cheshire nuked an entire country into oblivion.
+--- 136738413
+Namari and Fang in general
+Raya has the most absurd and laughable moral of any movie I know in recent memory
+--- 136738479
+>>136737380
+It's things from the past 20 years coming together.
+
+It's really funny now that he's not related to the Twins, but you'd think someone in the X-Office would have issue with Mags willfully turning a blind eye towards sexual harassment that bordered on assault.
+--- 136738496
+>>136734045
+and yet he mourned 9/11, curious
+--- 136738769
+>>136738479
+>but you'd think someone in the X-Office would have issue with Mags willfully turning a blind eye towards sexual harassment that bordered on assault.
+Good luck with that, this is the same group of people that thirst over Daken, the serial date rapist that raped men and women, murdered many others, and has been whitewashed so hard that he is practically translucent, giving a really half-assed "uh, er, that's not how my powers work" excuse despite the fact that we have pages upon pages of him being fucking giddy about it.
+--- 136738865
+>>136737380
+X-Factor 243. And Lorna's on a *very* short list of 616 mutants that have canonically accidentally killed someone else when their powers activated in adition to being a potential world ender. In fact, she's literally the only named mutant to have done so without some sort of extentenuating circumstance factoring into the situation that *might* have changed things (or made shit intentional). Only other case is pic related in a dumb one off page for a dumb very special issue.
+
+>>136734862
+>Unintended consequences, sure, but he wasn't the one having a fight about Lorna's parentage in front of her while flying a plane.
+Magneto knew enough about mutants to know trauma could activate powers and wasn't some sheltered dumbass to think that wouldn't include exactly the sort of shitshow that did trigger them. He left a live grenade lying around. Trauma activations are always fucking more dangerous than regular ones.
+--- 136739034
+>>136730830
+Half the time Deathstroke is fighting superheros in his own series. He's never shown as heroic. He's even admitted many times that he's a horrible person.
+--- 136739105
+>>136738479
+It's actually really annoying how despite Marvel writers having revealed Disney won't let them make Magneto related to the twins because that's not what the MCU is doing, Marvel are obeying the letter of that order but not the spirit of it, and having the characters want to pretend they're family, even though the twins HATED Magneto and were so happy to learn he wasn't their real dad.
+
+It all looked like they were throwing a temper tantrum over the MCU making Wanda popular for things that had nothing to do with Magneto, so they tried to double down on linking her to him in the comics as much as they were allowed.
+--- 136739154
+>>136729033 (OP)
+For what it's worth, that ending was mandated by Batman editorial (they had it up their asses that all of the Batman villain issues of Villains Month had to have the villains doing beyond the pale shit and IIRC, only JH Williams point blank refused to do it in Batwoman and wrote instead a sympathetic origin story for Killer Croc). 
+
+And Suicide Squad's writer immediately declared the story a nightmare Harley had first fucking chance they could.
+--- 136739155
+>>136739034
+This, Deathstroke doesn't fit under OP's criteria because he hasn't been written to be sympathetic since nearly everybody acknowledges that he's an irredeemable piece of shit. Then again, they were pushing that "that 15-year-old girl manipulated me, a middle-aged contract killer, because she's evil, despite the fact that I'm also evil" shit before they realized how much shit they would be in for pushing that as an excuse.
+--- 136739292
+>>136738865
+To be fair, PAD hates Lorna and despises that her popularity (and that of Havok) effectively make it impossible to turn his versions of X-Factor into badly selling vanity projects ala Excalibur since so long as Havok and Polaris are around, fans will be demanding X-Factor explicitly cross over with the main X-Books. 
+
+In the case of that story in particular, it happened around the time editorial stuck him with Havok and Polaris, only to remove Havok for Uncanny Avengers and PAD being pissed off that editorial wouldn't force Remender to take Lorna as well, forcing PAD to have to keep writing Lorna, resulting in him shitting on Lorna again until editorial told him to fucking stop and instead ordered him to start write stories with her and Quicksilver as siblings, as fans were upset with PAD's treatment of Lorna.
+--- 136739339
+>>136739155
+With Terra there is the fact that Slade was evil but so dead set on killing the Titans, that he got tunnel vision and never thought that the 16 year old blonde he recruited to spy on the Titans was batshit insane and a super powered supremacist who would kill Slade in a heartbeat if she could get away with it/no longer had any need of him.
+--- 136739794
+>>136732101
+>>136732117
+We need to do lists like these for Mystique and Emma Frost too.
+--- 136740456
+>>136738865
+That runs into X-Men changing things to the point their own history doesn't work.
+
+>>136739105
+Made even more irritating by the fact that the X-office and fandom neither care about or even really like the twins or Lorna. If the X-fandom had its way Pietro and Wanda would have been permanently killed off after Decimation.
+--- 136740628
+>>136729388
+You can just say all the mutants
+--- 136740688
+>>136729033 (OP)
+The premise of this thread is silly because comic book writers rarely fucking talk to each other to establish consistency. There's a good chance that whoever made this book wanted to make her irredeemably evil and that's quite simply not what Harley is. I mean honestly, this is extremely out of character.
+--- 136740989
+>>136740688
+There is often an editorial mandate or someone with too little oversight and a shitty take, but in the case of people like Mags it's a valid line of discussion considering we're talking about years of consistent evil behavior and years of trying to pretend he's not a bad guy.
+--- 136741741
+>>136740456
+>Made even more irritating by the fact that the X-office and fandom neither care about or even really like the twins or Lorna. If the X-fandom had its way Pietro and Wanda would have been permanently killed off after Decimation.
+There are some passionate fans of Peter David's X-Factor who like Pietro, but aside from them, and the 'Magnus Family' crowd who who just want them around as Magneto's supporting cast, your average X-fag doesn't seem to like or care about the twins, but is very possessive of them, very "THEY'RE OURS" and as with Franklin Richards, seething about how them not being mutants is some kind of affront or hate crime.
+
+It's like they don't really want those characters around in important roles or want to do anything worthwhile with them, but think that their only purpose is Muh Magneto's Kids and they should be property of the X-books and not used elsewhere. It doesn't help that X-Men adaptations keep doing weird OOC versions of the twins that are defined by their connection to Magneto.
+
+Poor Lorna seems to be getting rejected by X-Men fandom like an unwanted replacement pet. Wanda was never around, they didn't want her around, but now they have a Magneto's daughter who actually belongs to the X-books, one they can do things with, and they're just crying that they don't want her, they want Wanda back, and the more popular she gets, the louder they get about how she needs to be Magneto's mutant daughter and that's all she'll ever be.
+
+It's just sad really, but if only Marvel itself wasn't full of people who think the same way.
+--- 136742352
+>>136741741
+You are leaving out that not ALL X-Men fans like that Magneto/Lorna are now related (especially since it's entirely based on Grant Morrison being a hack and a half who only read the Stenerko issues of Lorna's origin issues and never bothered to do any actual fucking research into the character or her origin arc and how Lorna was lied to by Magneto (really a robot) about being his kid. 
+
+A lot of fans would be VERY VERY happy if Lorna being Magneto's kid wasn't true and retconned out.
+--- 136742360
+That time Boomerang killed a man in front of his wife and daughter, who he then tried to kill while laughing about what would be more fun, killing the mother in front of the daughter or the daughter in front of the mother.
+--- 136742602
+>>136742352
+Be that as it may, as things currently stand your options are that Lorna is Magneto's daughter, or he has no living children. So for people who consider it necessary for him to be a parent and have kids, you have the choice of just learning to compromise with reality and accept Lorna, or keep stamping your feet and demanding the twins back and telling yourself Marvel are going to do it any day now.
+
+If you personally don't care about Magneto having kids, AND don't like Lorna being retconned into being his daughter, you're probably right, it hasn't really helped her at all. Even winning a fan vote to join the main X-Men team didn't help her.
+
+Quicksilver fans are divided because some of them are Avengers fans, some are X-Factor fans, but the average Wanda fan is an Avengers fan or an MCU fan who is very happy with her not being related to Magneto, but for some reason people who don't even like her act like what they want for her should matter more than what her fans want. And when the X-books spent 16 years demonizing her and radicalizing readers to hate her, is it any surprise that she has fans who don't want her within a mile of a mutant book?
+--- 136743415
+>>136742602
+You don't need him to have living kids; everyone overlooks he was radicalized by the death of his first child. Lorna and the Twins being related to Magneto does nothing for them as characters and are irrelevant for Mags as well. Though I think the real reason why they want the Twins back as Mags' kids is because their history makes Mags look like a creepy stalker if he's not actually related.
+--- 136743484
+>>136743415
+>Though I think the real reason why they want the Twins back as Mags' kids is because their history makes Mags look like a creepy stalker if he's not actually related.
+It feels a lot more like it's just something most people grew up with, it makes it into most X-Men adaptations so people think it's more important than it really ever was.
+
+Getting people to see how all it ever did was hurt them is very difficult, but it's STILL hurting them even when they're not related. Someone in the 80s deciding Magneto's wife was a gypsy, likely without even considering the twins, unwittingly started a chain of events that led to Twitter schizos bullying Marvel into turning the twins brown.
+--- 136743886
+>>136743484
+Admittedly I don't particularly care about them darkening the twins' skintone except for some reason they don't understand that most Roma aren't particularly dark-skinned. Though I think dark skin works pretty well on Pietro due to the white hair and light colored costume.
+--- 136743955
+That time Shocker sacrificed a town to demons.
+That time Absorbing Man murdered the mother of his rape baby while beating his rape baby son to the point he needed to be hospitalized for trying to defend her.
+--- 136744150
+>>136734958
+It was radioactive, though. It was a major plot in Battle for Bludhaven.

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+-----
+--- 136729509
+Are you excited for May?
+--- 136729536
+>>136729509 (OP)
+No
+
+
+This show stopped being good years ago
+I hope Im proved wrong
+--- 136729560
+I love Lucy!
+--- 136729563
+>>136729536
+Anon, you...you're not wrong (unfortunately).
+--- 136729616
+>>136729509 (OP)
+Sorta, S7's description doesn't sound that bad on paper, there aren't that many Action News Team episodes for a change
+--- 136729651
+>>136729509 (OP)
+How? Even as someone who liked this show the format and theme has a limit before it turns shit. Unless thier clever and age the characters up every year.
+--- 136729666
+How many Lucy episodes are there going to be? A seasons worth can be measured by how much screentime Lucy gets.
+--- 136729676
+>>136729622
+Oh hey your the dude that thought he was kicked from a server lol. Depends, writing or art.
+--- 136729685
+>>136729509 (OP)
+I am, I personally disagree that the show hit it's limit, I think it has untapped potential that got fucked from S4-S6 and the writers seem to be starting to realize that the scope got way too big, I think.
+--- 136729767
+>>136729666
+Oh yeah... Can't wait for more Morticians muffin mcguffin hocus pocus shit..
+--- 136729778
+>>136729666
+Get out satan!
+>>136729685
+S4 is good.
+--- 136729820
+Gm thread
+
+Post cute sisters
+--- 136729858
+>>136729820
+--- 136729908
+>>136729820
+I'll try but I'm making pancakes rn
+The key is to not mix the batter too hard
+--- 136729951
+>>136729509 (OP)
+My cock is already out and the moisturizer is ready yes
+--- 136729996
+>>136729820
+--- 136730129
+Does anyone have the full version of The Princess and the Everlasting Emerald (there is no new footage, I just want it for preservation's sake)?
+--- 136730144
+>>136730129
+I don't have what you're looking for.. but your dedication is commendable.
+--- 136730261
+>>136729820
+>>136729858
+>>136729908
+>>136729951
+Very cute, sisterchads keep winning
+--- 136730281
+>>136729509 (OP)
+IT'S OVER
+--- 136730370
+>>136729676
+the discord got really gay and retarded (as they all do)
+
+either. leia is my favorite, so im interested in anything about her.
+--- 136730468
+>Episodes focusing on Clinton and his friend as opposed to the thematic element of the show which is his many sisters
+>Revealing the parents' faces
+I don't know if the show later rectified the increased prevalense of the first mistake but revealing the parents can't be undone.
+--- 136730502
+>>136730468
+Glad I’m not the only one who felt the parents face reveal wasnt a great idea
+--- 136730585
+>>136730370
+That doesn't change the fact you thought you were kicked out and then dipped yourself. Apparently you were laughing about someone's situation. And they pulled you to the side and got butthurt before they even said anything.
+--- 136730754
+>>136730370
+There is stuff
+--- 136730928
+>>136729616
+Dawg Squad
+--- 136731043
+>>136730897
+Yeah and you expect a lot of attention for your fic of a sin kid now because?
+--- 136731063
+>>136730897
+No saw screenshots. You just laughed. Then you got pissy in "Gay-Baby-Jail" lmao that channel name.
+--- 136731071
+>>136729820
+
+>>136729685
+>and the writers seem to be starting to realize that the scope got way too big
+upcoming road trip "arc" make you say that?
+>>136730502
+>>136730468
+there was definitely a sortof magical quality to them being minor characters and not being the focus but still always around every episode early on, the reveal in 11 louds a leaping was atleast pretty sweet
+--- 136731085
+>>136731043
+i was asking what new shit had come out, i wasn't advertising my old work. 
+
+>>136731063
+community is cancer
+--- 136731135
+>>136729509 (OP)
+Luan's porn stash
+--- 136731167
+>>136730261
+I think you meant >>136729996 instead of >136729951.
+>>136730281
+It will be temporary.
+>>136730468
+Clinton?
+>>136730502
+What's the problem?
+--- 136731171
+>>136731071
+She’s so precious
+--- 136731188
+Good morning, anons.
+
+How are we all staying busy until the (new) new episodes air?
+--- 136731194
+>>136731167
+>he doesnt remember Clinton
+--- 136731228
+>>136729509 (OP)
+No. The Loud House is now nothing but a mere shadow of itself.
+--- 136731273
+>>136731085
+I don't know I think they got rid of it by the looks of you being here. Kek
+--- 136731326
+>>136731188
+Oh you know, schemeing, rewatching some, gardening, the usual. 
+Stupid squirrels keep digging my soil up and burying peanuts in it.
+--- 136731398
+>>136731135
+>Oh brother
+--- 136731482
+>>136731188
+SwItching between Writing my fanfic and working on my thesis project Ronniebro.
+--- 136731666
+>>136731188
+Drawing lily as a giant using an unspecified man as a pacifier
+--- 136731831
+>>136731398
+Canonically she has recorded him ... A lot, like, a lot a lot.
+--- 136731920
+>>136730928
+Not approved name.
+--- 136731984
+>>136731831
+What do you think she does with those recordings?
+--- 136732013
+>>136731194
+Is it an old fandom meme?
+>>136731666
+Get lost satan!
+--- 136732066
+>>136731984
+Well considering some are labeled bathroom, more devilish maintenance perhaps
+--- 136732173
+>>136731167
+>Clinton?
+Sorry I typed to hastily with another topic mildly on my mind, of course I meant Lincoln
+--- 136732264
+>>136729509 (OP)
+I kinda like the idea of giving every sister and Lincoln a group of friends as more story potential but there def should be balance? I feel like the show never got that balance right since like Chris left? But maybe it's time for a rewatch. I can't even remember the last episode I saw.
+--- 136732291
+>>136732264
+That would overbloat the show more than it already has been. Family interactions should remain the absolute central focus. There’s bountiful potential for stories with 13 characters
+--- 136732427
+>>136732291
+14 with Clyde.
+--- 136732460
+>>136731831
+...and Lisa... and potentially Lola.
+--- 136732476
+>>136729509 (OP)
+I am! The last episode I remember watching is Lincoln and the guys sneak away from that kid in the barn sleepover to go to a pool party and they get caught swimming in their underwear. I remember laughing at it a lot so maybe the last few seasons still pretty funny?
+--- 136732502
+>>136732264
+It should be an occasional thing here and there, not like half of the show like it's been. I don't really want the "Royal Woods show ". I don't care about the expanded world of the show, not everyone is super memorable, it's not springfield like the writers seem to want it to be. The non-Loud characters aren't weird enough to make that work. 
+>>136732291
+This, they should be able to make use of 13 characters and a few others at most.
+The friendgroups have nothing to do with the premise of the show and shouldn't be central to the plot of episodes. I'd also like them to stop shoehorning new shitty characters in through relationships like Gavin. (The character, not the poster)
+--- 136732523
+>>136732291
+>>136732264
+the show never did balance it. I think friend episodes would be fine if they were few in number, with the majority of the episodes being family focused and B) Limit the amount of friends a sister has, like it feels like the moriticians club is too big for its own good, Dante and Morpheus for example just seem worthless, its also unbalanced in terms of whos friends we see, i feel like we only ever see Lucy, Leni and sometimes Lynn friends, we never see many episodes of the other sisters friends even though there's probably potential story ideas there, im not saying there should be more episodes just about the friends but its really lopsided which friends they focus on
+>>136732502
+this
+--- 136732702
+>>136731831
+Well, that's how she found out about what's going on between Lincoln and Lynn.
+--- 136732977
+>>136732502
+I disagree somewhat, I like that they've expanded into Royal Woods. I've always liked the comfy small town vibe it had and it's been nice to see more about it. The only friend group I care about is Lincoln's though. And Maybe Lynn's and Leni's.
+--- 136732988
+>>136731228
+The live action version of the Loud House is even worse.
+--- 136733003
+>>136732988
+dont respond to the schizo
+--- 136733019
+I cant wait to hear her sweet giggles again
+--- 136733058
+>>136732977
+Well, I'm glad you've been able to enjoy more than I have, I just do not care at all about those characters personally.
+--- 136733298
+>>136732291
+Hmm. Yeah, you're right. Well having a bunch of friends for everyone as supporting cast would be okay. Hopefully we might get back to basics this season with group episodes.
+--- 136733408
+>>136733019
+>>136729509 (OP)
+
+I hope there's another Benny episode.
+--- 136733552
+>>136732291
+I don't mind the Lincoln and friends stuff, but there are some interesting sister pairings they've not done yet, and should do. It'd be nice to see Lisa and Lana have a plot for example. The live-action show had some fun interactions and groupings with the sisters un seen in the animated series.
+--- 136733569
+>>136730281
+what
+--- 136733596
+>>136733569
+its just the retard, dont respond
+--- 136733615
+>>136729509 (OP)
+Okay. But where is new live-action spin-off episodes?
+--- 136733728
+>>136733615
+How long can this series last before they have to replace the child actors?
+--- 136733734
+>>136733615
+They seem to alternate live-action series slots, since they only have two of them. Like this week they have a new series and the return of Danger Force, which probably run for a bit then they'll swap out things again.
+--- 136733752
+>>136733408
+Pretty sure there is. But it's shared with Leni and her boyfriend AND Suna
+--- 136733842
+>>136732460
+What about Lori?
+--- 136733857
+>>136733752
+>Sisters and their partners episode
+How much deeper can they dig their nails in waifufags and Loudcestfags's wounds?
+--- 136733875
+>>136733408
+Well now we can point to the lowest rated among the season already. Barf bag luan clone.
+--- 136733876
+>>136732502
+14 with Clyde.
+--- 136733893
+>>136733876
+Bro get the hint no one gives a shit
+--- 136734002
+>>136733728
+I think it ends with S2.
+>>136733734
+Erin & Aaron.
+>>136733752
+>>136733857
+>>136733875
+You confused Luanny with Lobby.
+--- 136734274
+>>136733842
+Lori doesn't record everything her siblings are doing to my knowledge.
+--- 136734518
+>>136733752
+>waifufags
+You got that right.
+I'd hate Gavin a lot less if the relationship felt earned and not handed on a silver platter to some literal who douchebag
+--- 136734536
+>>136734518 meant for
+>>136733857
+but may as well have been both anyways
+--- 136734847
+>>136733552
+>>136733408
+Luan deserves her own episode, serveral of them just of her being a cute clown
+--- 136735274
+>>136734847
+It was fun to see her and Lola together, she can work with almost any Loud and it be fun.
+--- 136735719
+>>136731831
+Is Luan the horniest Loud?
+--- 136735740
+>>136734847
+Luan is a goof
+--- 136735863
+>>136735719
+Nope, that's Leni. And no, I don't care that she's retarded.
+--- 136735939
+>>136735719
+Yes, an exhibitionist in most cases
+
+>>136735274
+Because shes the perfect character!! She works well and brings out the best in everyone
+
+>>136735740
+She sure is! The cutest silliest goof!
+--- 136735959
+>>136734518
+>>136734536
+It's Lori and Bobby rather than Luan and Benny.
+>>136734847
+>>136735274
+>>136735740
+There is Pranks Fore Nothing with Lori.
+--- 136735976
+>>136729536
+The show was never even that good, sure the comic strip style was fun but the writing and characters were so flat
+--- 136735997
+>>136735959
+Oops, I forgot one:
+>>136735939
+--- 136736005
+>>136735959
+Yaaaayy
+--- 136736007
+>>136735959
+And he's talking about Leni x Gavin.
+--- 136736017
+>>136735719
+Lori?
+--- 136736025
+>>136735863
+>>136735719
+>horny
+I'd hardly call anybody in this show horny at all. The only ones who ever get even a tease of canon lust are Rita and Lynn Sr.
+--- 136736032
+>>136736025
+>Hugh
+--- 136736044
+>>136736032
+Okay, fair enough, but he's a 10/10 in universe
+--- 136736048
+>>136736017
+Lori has a boyfriend not very horny unless she's kinky in bed with him
+--- 136736063
+>>136736025
+I misread that as hottest, not horniest. Leni isn't horny but she's still a hot potato.
+
+Get it?
+--- 136736104
+>>136735719
+Luan's jokes and pranks are a cry for hard rough handholding
+--- 136736146
+>>136736063
+It's Lori.
+--- 136736180
+>>136736146
+Lori is a cow
+--- 136736215
+>>136736063
+Ahh, you!
+--- 136736418
+>>136734002
+Nah Benny is garbage.
+--- 136736454
+Don't forget Linc nearly cucked Lori of her own BF.
+--- 136736517
+>>136736454
+and she used clyde
+--- 136736583
+>>136736454
+They should have been friends more.
+The brother from another mother dynamic was fun and cute.
+--- 136736590
+/tlhg/ is on /co/ now? What happened
+--- 136736688
+>>136729820
+--- 136736741
+>>136736590
+Trying to evade dipshits, but they did end up shitting up the last thread towards the end.
+--- 136736749
+>>136736590
+A schizo killed it on /trash/. Long story, been told before, you'll probably hear again it if you hang around enough.
+--- 136736810
+>>136736780
+Sadly, they are two different schizos
+--- 136736835
+>>136736749
+>A schizo killed it on /trash/.
+Fucking how? Doesnt that board allow everything more or less?
+--- 136736858
+>>136736749
+How can one schizo hold so much power over a general? Please give me the short version, wth happened?
+--- 136736887
+>>136730754
+Then post it
+--- 136736915
+>>136736835
+>>136736858
+Copy/Paste from another anon:
+
+So basically, it's been like this:
+
+>/tlhg/ exists
+>one day, some fucking retard schizo narcissist decides to use it for his schizoid blog
+>beleives himself to be king of all people, master of everyone and everything
+>can't be reasoned with
+>can't be appealed to
+>he is entirely entrenched in another reality that cannot be broken by anything other than total deprivation of internet and being forced to go outside for once or death
+>family won't force him to live like a normal human being
+>regulalry rants about how he wants to do horrible illegal shit to innocent people and children
+>calls everyone racist because women won't suck his tiny penis the moment they see him (I am being literal here)
+>will neither fix his life or end it
+>refuses to do anything other than dedicate his life to being as annoying to this particular fanbase as he can be
+>so dedicated to this effort that he buys new IPs and 4chan passes whenever he gets banned
+>posts his personal info regularly, still comes back somehow because trash mods won't eradicate him for good
+>has been doing this, over and over on /trash/, for over a year, because there is no such thing as on-topic on /trash/
+
+And that's why we don't use /trash/ anymore. Kurt is a cancer and we're hoping he'll eventually get a life and leave. Although that would require there to be no /tlhg/ until he's dead. Maybe if we did it somewhere else somehow it would be better.
+--- 136736943
+>>136736915
+That is grim for any other general there.
+--- 136736956
+>>136736780
+Unlikely. Both have doxxed themselves and neither of them have the mental faculties to fabricate the existence of the other.
+--- 136737146
+>>136736741
+Yeah but we can deal with them better here. And unlike Kurt it's not literally 24/7, so we can actually discuss and enjoy the show! Wow! What a concept!
+--- 136737225
+>>136737146
+True, at least here, the jannies can come in and clean up the shit he spews like the last thread.
+
+But to get back on topic, and not give this dipshit any more unneeded attention. I actually started watching this show not too long ago. Binged through the first season and part of the 2nd season. I hear this show pretty much falls off the cliff around season 4, when the focus kind of changes from Lincoln and the sisters and focuses on building around other characters like their friend groups. Does this show really become unwatchable garbage then? It sounds like at least with the new season, they are shifting things back to focusing specifically on the family, at least with this roadtrip arc.
+--- 136737265
+>>136737225
+I liked Season 5, wasn't big on season 4. Though it sounds like you might not like 5, because it's not big on the family as much. There were some episodes I really enjoyed in 5 and weren't family episodes.
+--- 136737267
+>>136737225
+Most of it is meh. They do get better with continuity and using the side characters as the series goes on.
+--- 136737357
+>>136737267
+>No Luna Lucy episode
+>No Lisa Lana episode
+>No Luan Luna episode
+>No Leni Lola episode
+--- 136737367
+>>136737225
+As I see it, skip all of the Casagrandes episodes and season 4 is still decent.
+
+Avoid Season 5 like the plague, just know that there's a time skip in it and Lily now talks.
+
+Season 6 es extremely hit and miss, they ramp up the Supernatural/Sci-fi shit to annoying levels, but there's still some decent episodes here and there (And "Save Royal Woods", which is excellent).
+--- 136737418
+>>136737357
+>No Luan Luna episode
+This one irks me the most, they are literal roommates, how could they never have an episode together!?
+--- 136737424
+>>136737265
+>>136737267
+>>136737367
+I plan on watching some more episodes when I have the time, just been pretty busy lately with school. I guess it's worth continuing watching, but it seems season 5 is pretty polarizing, so I'll see if it's my cup of tea or not before skipping to season 6.
+--- 136737430
+>>136737225
+I wouldnt say completely unwatchable per se, its just a downgrade, theres some decent episodes scattered throughout s4-6 but a lot of forgettable ones, s4 tries doing the family focused stuff but it lacks heart or charm and is just kinda boring imo
+--- 136737450
+>>136737357
+TRLH has had at least one Luna Lucy bit. And a lot of Luna Leni stuff.
+
+It's fucking criminal how the show gives us more and better sister interactions than the cartoon.
+--- 136737536
+>>136737357
+>no leni lola episode
+This, I want this.
+--- 136737567
+>>136737536
+There's a short were Leni plays detective with Lola, so at least there's that.
+--- 136737571
+I miss her
+--- 136737575
+>>136737424
+and yeah, I liked the Casagrandes series, but the season 4 episodes were weak, except the first one where they introduce Sid. "Friended!" In Season 5, I liked Lynn's episodes like the baseball one with Liam, one with her and Lisa , the one with her and Lincoln. It's also kind of nice they gave Lincoln some wins too. 
+>>136737450
+The younger sisters all working together was great.
+--- 136737597
+>>136736104
+I want to hold a touchstarved Luan i wanna feel her lightly claw my back trying to get closer into my warm embrace
+--- 136737602
+>>136737571
+>My God You're Greasy
+--- 136737604
+>>136729820
+--- 136737620
+>>136737575
+Yeah, and the Lynn Sr/Rita conflict was actually fairly well executed. I was impressed.
+--- 136737732
+>>136737597
+I greatly enjoy that artist's ship art
+--- 136737782
+>>136737450
+Judge seems to actually know what he's doing and what the actual premise and appeal of said premise of the show is
+--- 136737795
+>>136736517
+Not really effective and more so cause lincs bro. In end was useless, as usual.
+--- 136737829
+>>136737782
+>the dip in quality of the toon and higher quality of TRLH's writing was all a ploy to switch to cheaper live action
+How would you feel if this came out?
+--- 136737840
+>>136736887
+No it's on the discords you shitting on so not really inclined. But I know the guy who has most if not all of it. You probably won't like him though.
+--- 136738020
+Imagine if Sin kids were canon
+--- 136738061
+>>136737840
+>you probably won't like him though
+Probably
+But you are a nigger faggot
+--- 136738097
+>>136738061
+Nah, your just being a cunt muffin. But it's ok, won't hold it against you.
+--- 136738117
+>>136738020
+If the show had been Made 20 years into the future where anti-incest laws were abolished and Chris Savino hadn't been cancelled, maybe.
+--- 136738214
+>>136738020
+And then imagine if they were all aborted and Lincoln got sent to prison
+--- 136738224
+>>136738020
+They are. Rita and LS are distantly related.
+--- 136738283
+>>136738020
+Fuck no. Get out of here with that sonichu crap
+--- 136738301
+>>136738214
+Someone's butthurt
+--- 136738318
+>>136738214
+This is the only good sin kids headcanon
+--- 136738388
+>>136738020
+Ok thats hot.
+--- 136738451
+>>136738020
+Some of the non incest ones could be used.
+--- 136738472
+>>136736418
+I'm talking about the episode featuring Bobby instead of Benny.
+--- 136738579
+>>136738214
+Lori, Leni, Luna and Luan would be the ones sent to Prison for raping their underage little brother.
+--- 136738764
+>>136737732
+Me too I wish I had more saved their Luans are super cute
+--- 136738993
+>>136737225
+>>136737367
+>>136737424
+>>136737430
+>>136737575
+I liked S4, including the Casagrandes arc, and you are overrating Save Royal Woods!.
+>>136737571
+Too small.
+--- 136739080
+>>136738579
+Even Luan?
+--- 136739086
+>>136739060
+ew sonichu garbage
+--- 136739161
+>>136739086
+When is the arc where Lincoln fucks an old and demented Rita?
+--- 136739170
+https://twitter.com/wearereelfx/status/1647978360599982084
+What company will animate the upcoming animated movies?
+--- 136739186
+>>136738283
+Faggot >>136739060
+Ech patanus crap, this one was when he was fake kissing a female artists ass. Guys such a chode.
+--- 136739218
+>>136738283
+>>136739086
+Faggot
+--- 136739236
+>>136739186
+I see no difference between pat crap and other sonichu artist trash
+--- 136739242
+>>136739186
+Faker!
+--- 136739255
+>>136738993
+SRW is what the movie should have been, the feelings were there and the music for once was top tier, a literal celebration of the franchise as a whole.
+
+Easily top 10 material.
+--- 136739280
+>>136738993
+dont look at me i didnt defend that shit, im pretty sure that guy is the only one that likes it
+--- 136739342
+>>136739242
+Faggotcaller anon does not own the rights to call the hater a faggot. I can call him that as well. Though I do hate how I didn't space, looks ugly.
+--- 136739359
+>>136739080
+Well Romeo and Juliet laws don't apply for Lincoln in Michigan as he is under 13, so yes, Luan is fucked.
+--- 136739447
+>>136738020
+If Savino were still in charge they would be by now
+--- 136739524
+>>136739447
+Too bad he's a Christian cuck now, we'll never see something like Eddie Puss ever again.
+--- 136739835
+>>136739255
+I liked TLHM more.
+>>136739359
+But Luan is under 16.
+>>136739447
+So why does Bobby exist and did get an immediate family and an extended family?
+>>136739524
+Good.
+--- 136739907
+>>136739255
+Even though it's a save the town plot, it would have been a good movie, there's a few specials I think would have been good movies, better than the movie. Like the one where they look for treasure at Lynn Sr's father's camp. or Time Trap
+--- 136740065
+>>136739996
+kys sonichu tard
+--- 136740141
+>>136739835
+>So why does Bobby exist and did get an immediate family and an extended family?
+I have no idea what you are trying to say. Did you reply to the wrong post?
+--- 136740185
+>>136738283
+You keep saying Sonichu, but it’s incredibly obvious you’ve never read to comics, or dug into Chris’ life in the slightest.
+--- 136740219
+>>136740185
+its true, he uses the one insult he has that hes heard people say once and clearly has no actual frame of reference
+--- 136740232
+>>136739835
+>TLHM better than SRW
+Yikes
+>Under 16
+She's still subjected by the law for child sexual abuse, which is worse than statutory rape, She'll go to juvenile, or even jail if the case is prosecuted further.
+--- 136740251
+>>136740185
+Anyone with a brain knows the sin kids have the same energy as deviantart sonic ocs
+--- 136740297
+>>136740251
+>bro what if the loud house characters that already exist but redesigned with a minor personality change
+Brilliant
+--- 136740298
+>>136740232
+>TLHM better than SRW
+theyre both shit but atleast the movie had like 3 catchy songs and a kino opening
+>>136740251
+>sonichu
+>deviantart
+--- 136740307
+>>136740298
+You know what I mean sonichu bitch
+--- 136740326
+>>136740297
+And sonichu tards act like they're completely original characters kekaroo
+--- 136740336
+>>136740307
+im not a abomfag, you clearly know no christory though
+--- 136740350
+>>136740298
+I'll take Lincoln and Lisa rapping everyday over the autotune-fest that was the movie.
+--- 136740354
+>>136740065
+Get of your computer and try it keyboard warrior. Make sure you hydrate well or else you'll pass out walking those first 5 steps.
+--- 136740377
+>>136740251
+>>136740307
+>>136740326
+Faggot
+--- 136740403
+>>136740350
+ok i did enjoy Lisa rapping, dougs vocals in the opening are pretty clean though you gotta admit
+--- 136740460
+>>136737829
+The Blooming of a Mandela effect that "it was always live action"
+--- 136740514
+>>136740185
+Nobody can even hope to match the sheer autism, narcissism, and overall insanity of Chris.
+--- 136740544
+>>136739524
+Didn't the same thing happen to Butch Hartman? He ended up retconning the ghosts in Danny Phantom into aliens or something? I didn't make it past Season 2, so I wouldn't know.
+--- 136740657
+It's interesting how the fanbase has so many occasionally conflicting factions. It's a bit like the loud house itself, isn't it? 
+Every group is like a sibling of the same fandom and it's a fucking mess but we make due.
+--- 136740661
+>>136740544
+Yeah. The ghosts, despite obviously being dead people that had backstories, were now just aliens.
+--- 136740743
+>>136729951
+Oi! Put it back in!
+--- 136740791
+>>136740544
+Butch was mainly kept in check by Steve Marmel who left the show around season 3. Butch took over and retconned the ghosts as otherdimensional beings or something similar instead of the spirits of dead people
+--- 136740827
+>>136740657
+It's pretty insane the amount of lore this fandom has
+--- 136740863
+>>136737367
+>>136738993
+Agree with the first one, very hard disagree with the second one.
+--- 136740909
+>>136740827
+I wish there was some kind of record.
+It would be one hell of a read.
+--- 136740982
+New episode airdates from The Futon Critic!
+https://twitter.com/ParkerJCloud/status/1648376989382852647/
+--- 136740984
+>>136740909
+Same. It'd be a hell of an undertaking to compile
+--- 136741012
+>>136736025
+Do you just choose to forget all of Lori's interactions with Bobby in the earlier seasons? Bitch was a waterfall.
+--- 136741019
+>>136740909
+like desu you mean?
+>>136740982
+>new
+--- 136741050
+>>136741019
+New for America.
+--- 136741107
+>>136740657
+>Lori
+The jannies
+>Leni
+The retards, autists and schizos.
+>Luna
+the chill dudes that accept everyone but never have anything to talk about.
+>Luan
+The nice but slightly deranged nsfw artists
+>Lynn
+The safehouse moralfags that are rude to everyone
+>Lincoln
+The fanboy that religiously watches the show and only consumes canon.
+>Lucy
+The sinhouse pedos that spam Loudcest and sinkids OCs
+>Lana
+The porn addicts from deviantart that post feet, dirty frames, pigslut and BLoud crap.
+>Lola
+The greedy fucks that steal and hoard content.
+>Lisa
+The "objetive" autists that always feel the need to correct everyone with "canon lore".
+>Lily
+The newfags.
+--- 136741148
+Lynn's Lemonade
+--- 136741192
+>>136741019
+I guess if an anon (or multiple) would do such a thing it'd need that, yeah. I have no idea how you'd even begin though, you'd need some convenient way to look through it all thread by thread or it'd take an eternity.
+--- 136741194
+>>136741148
+AROUND THE CORNER FUDGE US MADE!
+--- 136741237
+>>136741107
+Makes sense. Lenifags usually tend to be all three of those. I have no idea why though.
+--- 136741252
+>>136741192
+For a project of that magnitude, it'd have to be collaborative
+--- 136741254
+>>136741107
+Not bad, not bad. But what of the waifufags?
+--- 136741286
+>>136741107
+Man I love Luan and Luan related content
+--- 136741314
+>>136741237
+That's more of a fandom-wide thing, he's not saying "if you like this character you're like this".
+I mean shit we have a resident schizo lunafag.
+--- 136741387
+>>136741254
+They're either Lucy or Lana depending on the situation.
+--- 136741388
+>>136741237
+Isn't her characterization much more complex than "autistic"?
+--- 136741425
+>>136741107
+Who are the Casagrandes?
+--- 136741542
+>>136741425
+The latinx. Americanized latinos like Puga
+--- 136741544
+>>136741314
+The other schizo is unironically a Lenifag or at least was one
+--- 136741600
+>>136741425
+La misma cosa pero en el fandom español
+--- 136741633
+>>136741192
+I did try doing that at first, to catch up on the "lore", did it on and off and went through may to about july 2016, decided to stop, more of a hassle after a point
+--- 136741648
+>>136740141
+You are saying Savino would put canon
+incest in the series.
+>>136740661
+Maybe they were alien spies who could shapeshift?
+--- 136741666
+>>136741544
+Owlfag or Kurt?
+I can't see it, it's hard to imagine either of them waifuing anything. 
+In any case, I wouldn't say most of them are schizos, retards, and autists or anything like that, they seem fine to me. Then again I'm not privvy to all 6 years of /tlhg/ so I might not have the experience to know. Just seems off to me is all, given the amount of them.
+--- 136741727
+>>136741666
+means kurt, whenever he posted loud house images he uses leni, and only ever the same handful of images hes had for years. Also as a side note I remember there was an image of Kurt holding up a psp with cuck porn on it, ive tried looking for it cause its funny but i havent been able to find it
+--- 136741901
+Lyra is the type of woman to marry you and want to have 18 kids
+--- 136741941
+>>136741727
+Interesting. I don't think kurt has the mental stability to actually feel affection, I think at most he probably just liked her design. That guy's idea of love is absolutely warped. Either way I'm certain every other Lenifag on this board fucking loathes him, and she'd never date him.
+>cuck porn
+Gross. Just when I thought he couldn't be any more irredeemable.
+--- 136741999
+God, I wish that were me
+--- 136742024
+>>136741999
+Awful sameface art style, and an even worse artist.
+--- 136742121
+>>136742024
+Adequate similarfaced artstyle, and equally mediocre artist.
+--- 136742196
+>>136742024
+>>136742121
+Any artist recommendations?
+--- 136742224
+>>136741727
+>>136741941
+I'm pretty sure he would also post Carol images
+--- 136742307
+>>136741901
+Why is Lyra one of the most popular sinkids? She's a bitch.
+--- 136742362
+Meemaw warned him about muggings by "urban" folk.
+--- 136742434
+>>136742121
+I’m talking about the fact that Green is a mega sperg, and throws shit fits over the tiniest things.
+--- 136742465
+>>136742362
+They could be around here, after all...
+--- 136742498
+>>136742481
+Fuck off Greninja
+--- 136742510
+>>136742362
+>Lynn
+>Lana
+>An entire cheerleader group
+Why is Liam such a gigachad?
+--- 136742516
+>>136742224
+>mutt calls everyone racist because he can't get any blonde poontang
+Now where have I heard this story before?
+--- 136742527
+>>136742434
+He wasn't always like this. Green used to be chill but one day he went completely nuts
+--- 136742555
+>>136742481
+I don't get this kind of thing.
+You can't self insert on an animal, so you want to see your woman fuck a foul beast over you? 
+Is this some kind of advanced cuckoldry where you're not even gonna have her fuck another man, but something even lesser than that? I can't see the fetish brain logic in this.
+--- 136742568
+>>136742555
+Id rather see more art of dudes fucking animal pussy
+--- 136742572
+>>136742527
+Why?
+What keeps making artists here go nuts?
+How hard is it to draw and keep your marbles about you?
+--- 136742591
+>>136742572
+oh he isnt a 4channer, hes never been here
+--- 136742606
+>>136742572
+I don't know. He keeps saying that he was much happier before the fandom and yet he doesn't leave
+--- 136742608
+>>136740982
+We already know.
+>>136741012
+Still is.
+>>136741542
+>latinks
+>>136742224
+Lori too.
+--- 136742634
+>>136742481
+I swear you zooniggers are literal cancer
+--- 136742640
+>>136742568
+Not quite my taste either, sorry chap
+--- 136742641
+>>136742510
+City girls dig country boys.
+--- 136742661
+>>136742555
+>>136742634
+95% of the beastiality art can be traced back to one person
+--- 136742672
+>>136742608
+So yeah, he's just Elliot Roger spic edition.
+--- 136742674
+>>136742568
+No
+--- 136742686
+>>136742516
+Lori too.
+--- 136742723
+>>136742608
+No one cares about Bobby
+--- 136742726
+>>136742362
+Good thing his daughter is safe
+--- 136742735
+>>136742634
+Cry harder please.
+--- 136742768
+>>136742640
+>>136742674
+weak
+--- 136742785
+>>136741109
+What the fuck is this shit I'm looking
+--- 136742787
+>>136742641
+Meanwhile...
+--- 136742800
+>>136742723
+Too bad Lincoln belongs to Lola
+--- 136742808
+>>136741107
+>>136741425
+>Clyde?
+Bad lurker.
+>Ronnie Anne?
+Rad poster.
+>Bobby?
+The one who defends the moderation.
+>Maria?
+The helper.
+>Rosa?
+The nonschizo conspirationist.
+>Hector?
+The one who only wants to participate in the threads.
+>Carlos?
+The one who tells trivia/info randomly.
+>Frida?
+The one who likes to talk about the technical aspects.
+>Carlota?
+QT specialist.
+>CJ?
+AU specialist.
+>Carl?
+Scammer.
+>Carlitos?
+Copycat.
+>Sid?
+Good lurker.
+--- 136742910
+Fiona has become one of my favourite background characters, I hope she appears more
+--- 136742922
+>>136742787
+Chandercoln
+--- 136742923
+>>136742910
+Ya she cute
+--- 136742985
+>>136742910
+thats a minor character not a backgrounder
+--- 136743004
+>>136742922
+Might as well have "bully bait" stitched across the back of Lincoln's pants.
+--- 136743017
+>>136729509 (OP)
+God... that entire family just looks so fucking sexy; everyone's faces just screaming for an orgy the moment a stranger like myself walks through their doorstep. I wish I was part of the loud house.
+--- 136743050
+>>136743017
+Hey! This isn't a porno set!
+--- 136743126
+>>136743017
+What if anon invited you to his house?
+--- 136743313
+Anons, i guess that Chandler is gonna tell Lincoln in seasons to come, how he fucked his first girl at 14. Or many girls, depending on how many hookers he ordered.
+--- 136743430
+>>136743313
+Chandler seems like a cunt.
+I would probably beat him up on the street if I saw him.
+--- 136743468
+>>136743430
+Why though? From my "schizo" theory, he seems to be the one, who's trying to strengthen Lincoln and make him better, not some shitty excuse of a man.
+--- 136743488
+https://twitter.com/pugavida/status/1647448949077454850
+https://twitter.com/Jay97006362/status/1648418173681651715 (Can anyone post them here?)
+--- 136743534
+>>136743126
+has to be female and hot, or at least thicc in the right places, otherwise no deal.
+--- 136743564
+>>136743488
+just click the link or get 4chanx
+--- 136743567
+>>136742808
+And Becky?
+--- 136743639
+>>136741107
+>>136742808
+>>136743567
+Main characters only. I'll include the Loud parents because they're main characters in TRLH.
+>Lynn Sr.?
+MILF specialist.
+>Rita?
+News reporter.
+--- 136743740
+>>136741107
+Faggot
+--- 136743744
+>>136743488
+>That Lincoln easter egg.
+Samcoln confirmed.
+--- 136743749
+>>136742726
+Then, Chandler's daughter comes in and kills Liam's daughter from pistol, because Chandler told so. (he hates rednecks)
+--- 136743762
+>>136743004
+Does anyone think Chandler is a depraved homosexual?
+--- 136743768
+>>136743749
+F off ruskie not even using redneck right.
+--- 136743788
+>>136743468
+You are a schizo. Dumbass
+--- 136743809
+>>136743768
+Look at Liam. He lives on a typical American farm, so that makes him redneck.
+>>136743762
+I think that he's bi.
+--- 136743810
+>>136743762
+yes and he should just tell Lincoln how he feels
+--- 136743817
+>>136743744
+The one who drew this title card probably lurked on 4chan.
+--- 136743863
+Stray bullet, from the barrel of love, stray bullet, from the heavens above, stray bullet, ready or not, i am the illegitimate son of God.
+--- 136743867
+>>136742024
+>>136742434
+All I see is a bitch hater.
+>>136742527
+If you pay attention he ain't nuts he just doesn't want to deal with dbags like sand in vagina poster above yet the schizos get mad cause he won't draw their insert OCs anymore.
+>>136742572
+He's not the disingenuous habitual assumptions of the haters is quite large.
+>>136742606
+Well he has friends so I'd wager they help him out. 
+>All in all some of you need to get the stick out of your ass as it sound like it's starting to get to you.
+--- 136743915
+hi green
+--- 136743941
+>>136743744
+Can you post the rest?
+--- 136744087
+>>136743488
+I love that Lincoln and Lola's segments belong to the same episode and have a similar motif in the title card.
+
+Literal soulmates~
+--- 136744120
+>>136744087
+Fuck that, without Savino, this show is fucked up. Even when Savino was here, the day, when it aired, has put an final nail to coffin of Nick and it was the day, when classic Nick died.
+--- 136744299
+>>136744120
+Russian, do yourself a favor and actually watch the show past s1 if you want to stop being considered a schizo, you don't even know who Chandler is and still talk about him all the time.
+
+Just friendly advice.
+--- 136744339
+>>136744299
+thats not gonna change anything he'll still be a schizo, might as well not
+--- 136744352
+The Loud House is obsessed with ham. The siblings spend their days eating ham, dreaming of ham, and talking about ham. One day, they discover that a mysterious man named Super Mario has been laying magic ham eggs all around the town. They are determined to find him and claim all of his hams for themselves. But when they finally confront Super Mario, things take a turn for the worse. Mario reveals that he needs the hams to survive and begins a battle with the siblings. They fight back with all their ham-fueled might, but in the end, Mario disappears and they're left wondering if they've seen the last of him. The Loud House siblings are left to reflect on the power of ham, and how it can drive even the most unexpected characters to great lengths.
+--- 136744404
+In the Lori House, in the Lori House.
+--- 136744430
+>>136744352
+Least autistic Loud House fan
+--- 136744535
+>>136744299
+I've watched, like, half of it. And i can say that almost made some of braincells dead.
+>>136744339
+Shut the fuck up, Amerifat.
+--- 136744537
+>>136744352
+Lisa, stop having Todd write your posts for you, he's no good at it.

co/136730459.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,469 @@
+-----
+--- 136730459
+Mixed feelings
+--- 136730469
+>>136730459 (OP)
+--- 136730484
+>>136730469
+--- 136730495
+>>136730459 (OP)
+>isn't it romantic hearing my mom fuck a guy for services 
+No?
+--- 136730507
+>>136730484
+--- 136730521
+>>136730507
+--- 136730537
+>>136730521
+And done
+--- 136730546
+There's a moral to this story
+--- 136730548
+>>136730537
+The noise isn't that hard come on now
+--- 136730587
+I want to fuck argie
+--- 136730617
+>>136730587
+The last comic
+--- 136730645
+>>136730617
+Fuckin captcha
+--- 136730662
+>>136730459 (OP)
+What kind of plumber uses a rubber chicken?
+--- 136730666
+>>136730645
+--- 136730687
+>>136730666
+--- 136730783
+>>136730459 (OP)
+can't believe her mom had sex with Chris Pratt
+--- 136730798
+>>136730687
+Goth Scot
+Super hot
+--- 136730850
+>>136730537
+What's the yellow shite she's referring to?
+--- 136730852
+>>136730507
+>>136730484
+/a/ when in relationship
+--- 136730890
+>>136730850
+At first I thought she was dreaming about Pokemon, and talking about Pikachu. 
+
+But I think she's talking about a fighting game the creator trying to do pet project.
+--- 136730891
+>>136730459 (OP)
+>I should have a kip now
+What does that mean?
+--- 136730899
+>>136730850
+>>136730890
+It's a Pizza Tower boss, the Noise.
+--- 136730901
+>>13673085
+The Noise from Pizza Tower I assume
+--- 136730910
+>>136730901
+>>136730850
+--- 136730959
+>>136730910
+>>136730901
+>>136730899
+>>136730890
+Gotcha, thanks.
+--- 136730983
+>>136730850
+>>136730899
+Why wouldn't she be talking about the yellow devil from Megaman?
+--- 136730995
+>>136730983
+Because that has attack patterns, they are just annoying as shit ones
+--- 136731011
+>>136730459 (OP)
+He’s literally me
+--- 136731014
+>>136730983
+Because that game came out almost 30 years ago and Pizza Tower like two months ago.
+--- 136731021
+>>136730459 (OP)
+Skyla is a nerd bully the nerd
+--- 136731065
+>>136730687
+hey it's the rooty tooty fresh and fruity girl!
+--- 136731181
+>>136730507
+Damn, he really decided to go the 'girlfriend is actually a slut' route
+
+For what purpose?
+--- 136731284
+>>136730459 (OP)
+Ima make some fanart and amimatiob lads
+--- 136731506
+>>136731181
+
+Bait and switch where she hasn't or he thinks it's funny or possibly aiming for rage bait, it's a proven strategy. He doesn't care what happens to this guy, his inserts the Argie
+--- 136731836
+>>136731181
+>For what purpose?
+total self-insertfag death
+--- 136731880
+>>136730459 (OP)
+>no blue haired attractive girl to dump semen into
+Uh canada; what happend?
+Also, i will now worship jesus knowing he will provide me with this, in transaction
+--- 136731916
+>>136730459 (OP)
+Mark Zuckerberg?
+--- 136731975
+This is why ur on a list canadian
+--- 136732111
+Why do 'gifted,' people think theyre actually smart?
+--- 136732206
+>>136732179
+--- 136732213
+>>136732111
+Because we're told by all the adults around us that we are. They stroke our egos and actually make us think that we're geniuses of some kind. Then we grow up and realize we're painfully average and we either take an honest look at ourselves or retreat into our delusions.
+--- 136732304
+https://youtu.be/Sj0kk4DA_JA [Embed]
+>shesrealmynigga?
+--- 136732692
+>>136732213
+The worst part is when, because you can calculate 2+2 faster than others they tell you that when you grow up you will be a genius millionaire in the biggest companies in the world and then you realize that this would have been true in their days when there were hardly any calculators, now a guy with a smartphone can do the same
+--- 136732723
+>>136732692
+To me it was becoming a successful physicist.
+--- 136732724
+>>136730666
+I wanna date the big scotish girl.
+--- 136732767
+>>136730850
+--- 136732791
+>>136730983
+>Why wouldn't she be talking about the yellow devil from Megaman?
+Because she was a zoomer
+--- 136732815
+>>136730852
+15 dicks is a lot. Even if you're not focusing on purity she's still in high school and has had 15 boyfriends, that's a big red flag.
+--- 136733186
+>>136732815
+I'm going to side skirt std 
+
+Let's say your gf is the town bike. Might as well get your rides in while you can. It's highschool very unlikely they'll marry, so why not have fun.
+--- 136733327
+>>136733186
+>so why not have fun
+>I'm going to side skirt std
+You can't fucking ignore STDs, it turns a single person's problem into a problem for everybody else. Even as a horny teen I knew well enough to avoid the notable sluts of our class, because I didn't want my dick to become a rotten cheese dispenser for the rest of my life.
+--- 136733362
+>>136732723
+and my thing was architecture, it doesn't matter if it's medicine, programming or chemistry, everyone thinks that having good grades in the tests automatically means that you are the last drop of water in the desert and you will have millions as if things like interviews, CVs and contacts never have been the most important thing when you get a job
+--- 136733428
+>>136731181
+>Damn, he really decided to go the 'girlfriend is actually a slut' route
+>For what purpose?
+Used goods is internationally popular >>>/a/251421417
+--- 136733441
+>>136733428
+>internationally popular
+No, it is not. /a/ is just filled with faggots.
+--- 136733447
+>>136733327
+How young do you think she started?
+--- 136733494
+>>136731181
+Have you seen her? If anything, it'd be unrealistic for her to not be a slut, much less have remained a virgin.
+--- 136733511
+>>136733494
+The entire concept of this story is unrealistic, anon.
+--- 136734082
+>>136730617
+god I want him to rail me so hard that I cant stand
+--- 136734211
+>>136733447
+From my experience, they can start as early as middle school. Two were already knocked up by the time I was in 8th grade, and others already had body counts nearing a dozen early into high school. I can't even chalk that up to living in a low-class area, it's just sluts being sluts.
+--- 136735004
+>>136734211
+>middle school
+--- 136735068
+But can he defeat her 15 evil exes.
+--- 136735216
+>>136730687
+oh goth tits is related to scottish tits
+--- 136735403
+>>136730983
+>little
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYtQQv4Z6HE [Embed]
+--- 136735429
+>>136730459 (OP)
+Bold prediction  hes gonna get her pregnant soon. If shes not allready at this point
+--- 136735462
+>>136735429
+What if he wears a condom.
+--- 136735463
+>>136730617
+RIBER GAY
+--- 136735642
+>>136730687
+The answer was right in my face but I didn't realize it.
+--- 136735893
+>>136735068
+I also ave 8 good ones, and you're gonna fight em too.
+--- 136735985
+>>136730537
+Cute
+--- 136736083
+>>136730459 (OP)
+
+just found the artists deviant art, her mom is way hotter desu
+
+i would like to thaw my hot dog in her sink if you know what I mean.
+
+>>136730666
+nice trips, i would fuck the shit out of that tom boy!
+--- 136736099
+>>136736083
+
+forgot image
+--- 136736388
+>>136731975
+lmao
+--- 136736422
+>>136735004
+>We're on the Abortion Day of our Current Issues class
+>Some girl casually mentions her Mom making her sister get one at 12
+Human species survived a mass extinction event for a reason.
+--- 136736448
+>>136730507
+lol it can feel like that sometimes, but whores can love too lads
+--- 136736518
+>>136730507
+The dick-tongue is a creative visual for the thought. Surprised a sequence like this hasn't been used in adult animation.
+--- 136736584
+>>136730507
+He's starting to see the light. Hopefully he just fucks her and tosses her back into the wild.
+--- 136736706
+>>136735429
+Did they even fuck? I only heard about a blowjob.
+--- 136736839
+>>136736584
+Doubt it. The standard now is a chaste and pure male being there for the town bicycle when she's tired of one-nighters.
+--- 136736844
+>>136730521
+Wow, he's just like me.
+--- 136736939
+>>136736839
+>a chaste and pure male
+Could have just said beta male
+--- 136736968
+>>136736422
+Now i'm wondering if pedophile is feature not a bug.
+--- 136737065
+>>136736968
+adult humans look like baby chimps stretched out. I think it's pretty likely
+--- 136737182
+Listen i don't care if she's fucking a trillion guys but if they reveal that at any point she did anyting with Argie even if it was out of curiosity or exploring or whatever that would be too fucking much. Purity must be protected where it matters.
+--- 136737221
+>loser gets to date a hot chick
+>gets worried that she had sex with other people
+Bitch, stop being so sensitive. Count your blessings.
+--- 136737254
+>>136737221
+>Simps defending used goods
+Typical.
+--- 136737322
+>>136730983
+this is what I was thinking too, peope find hard to find the pattern
+--- 136737385
+>>136731181
+cause he DGAF about the nerd. i doubt that he'd his self-insert Argie's goth gf a high body count. We'll see.
+--- 136737400
+>>136736939
+--- 136737435
+>>136736968
+All men are pedophiles , all women are whores.Men evolved to be pedos to avoid women when they grow up, just like the spiders do to not get eaten
+--- 136737541
+i hate twitter's layout, navigation, and don't want to sign up with a phone. how can i read this shit without going on twitter?
+--- 136737599
+>>136737400
+>Ok Beta now that I've fucked all through my 20's, had a kid or two, my looks are starting to fade, and my options of attracting men I find attractive is shrinking I'm ready to settle down with you and give you less passionate sex than what I was having in my 20's.
+--- 136737814
+>>136737400
+Is this an actual quote? Because no wonder even so-called beta males aren't playing their game anymore.
+--- 136737870
+>>136737254
+Spoken like a true virgin
+--- 136737899
+>>136737870
+>It's not a big deal my 18 year old girlfriend had 15 different boyfriends 
+Really dude?
+--- 136737930
+>>136737870
+>>136737400
+Yea, really shitty to be a virgin chimp boy.
+--- 136737946
+>>136730537
+>>136730850
+>another pizza tower reference
+we can't stop winning lads
+--- 136737951
+>>136730459 (OP)
+>woman is perfectly accepting of a man rejecting sex
+Unrealistic
+--- 136738007
+>>136737951
+She probably fucked some other dude before her boyfriend came over, so she's not pressed about it.
+--- 136738009
+>>136736099
+>c-section scar
+oh wow...
+--- 136739062
+>>136737951
+>teenage boy rejecting sex
+>from his eager and willing gf
+>not even a hj/bj
+the whole setup is ridiculous
+--- 136739363
+>>136739062
+>we have a very clear bit of introspection into the character's mind that he's worried about his girlfriend being a trashy skank with a dozen previous partners
+>yo wtf this setup is stupid
+There are plenty of people out there who are mindful of that shit, anon. As far back as my first sex ed class I've been wary of these kinds of things. Just because this board sexualizes gross trailer trash like the Kankers doesn't mean everybody has the same lack of standards.
+--- 136739420
+>>136730537
+The noise does have an attack pattern though, he randomly uses one of his I think 4 attacks two times for both his phases, it's not readily apparent which one he'll do at first but every attack has enough startup that you can tell what's coming, which means if you keep track you know what his final two attacks will be.
+--- 136739521
+>>136739363
+if you worried that much about that shit then you wouldn't be with said chick at all. It's a completely absurd setup. Everybody here remembers being a teenager and having a chick play with your junk. Nobody ever said no to some form of nut even if they regretted it or had some post-nut clarity/concern. There's a reason the "are you gay?" joke is a thing and it's because straight dudes pretty much never turn down that situation if they put themselves in it
+--- 136739728
+>>136737951
+Hearing other people have sex probably killed his libido.
+I wouldn't be able to do it if my gfs parents were there (in the hypothetical scenario where i was not single)
+--- 136739947
+>>136736099
+Would!
+--- 136740092
+So is nerd a cuck?
+Did he really fall for used goods?
+--- 136740170
+>>136730798
+Do you think she screams like a Banshee?
+--- 136740188
+>>136739521
+>it's because straight dudes pretty much never turn down that situation if they put themselves in it
+why are they still shamed when they did not put themselves in the situation then?
+--- 136740288
+>>136737899
+What, you expect life to be a fairy tale where your loved one kept her virginity intact for you? Get real.
+--- 136740357
+>>136740092
+That's not what a cuck is.
+--- 136740390
+>>136740357
+oh right... is nerd woke?
+--- 136740548
+>>136740390
+Considering the fact that he bullied a black chick, I don't think so.
+--- 136740579
+>>136730507
+At least it wasn’t 37
+--- 136740583
+>>136740188
+because straight dudes rarely turn down sexual encounters. There's also the ego factor a lot of girls develop because of how quick the vast majority of dudes are to jump at such opportunities so somebody turning her down is going to trigger that kind of response. Between most men being quick to accept sex and most women rarely getting turned down for sex it creates the perception that there most be something wrong with the outliers. Religion, already being in a committed relationship, having superior options available, or being gay are pretty much the only reasons a straight dude would turn it down
+--- 136740592
+>>136730687
+Is Argie fattening her up? Is that why he teased her so much for her sugar loaded pancakes?
+She's looking thicker and that's a well defined pot belly she's got going.
+Argie architect confirmed?
+--- 136740621
+>>136740288
+>Not having your gf bang 15 different guys in under 4 years is a fairy tale
+You're memin' right?
+--- 136740640
+I feel bad that his God Exploded Over New Orleans comic idea has been ignored/trashed but the Argie needs to understand a story set there where no one's black is retarded
+--- 136740666
+>>136740548
+Please tell me he rapes her right then and there.
+--- 136740828
+>>136740288
+Not that anon but my wife is a virgin when we first met 
+
+I understand that it is hard to find a virgin nowaday but what kinda third world country are you guys living in that fucking 15 guys is considered normal? Are you cavemen with not a single other entertainment in sight?
+--- 136740853
+>>136740666
+No
+--- 136741060
+>>136740666
+Very appropriate for Satan to say that about British Skyla
+--- 136741231
+>>136740853
+the fucking Sam Hyde Principal gets me everytime.
+--- 136741251
+>>136737946
+It's a pretty good game 
+And seeing as it has official comics we're aloud to discuss it
+--- 136741508
+>>136732815
+>15 dicks
+In a row?
+--- 136741527
+>>136741508
+Nah sideways
+--- 136741636
+>>136740548
+>>136740853
+https://youtu.be/0xEBUqlXEVs [Embed]
+--- 136741665
+>>136740828
+In America, we have this contradictory religion called feminism where women are stronger and powerful by fucking men. Since men have oppressed and raped women, having sex with them is beating them. Plus we let pedophiles tell kids either sex is a myth or have them watch hard-core porn for 3 hours a day.
+--- 136741672
+>>136741508
+All at once
+--- 136742022
+>>136740828
+It's not normal but then again we're not normal 
+If you're here, you definitely aren't a normal person
+--- 136742036
+>>136741665
+Who is we?
+You speaking french?
+--- 136742083
+>>136741527
+Yeah that's a row.
+--- 136742085
+If I know my doujins, and I fookin' tink I do, it'll turn out that she never did anythin' sexual with those blokes and that's a big reason she's not wif any of 'em anymore. She's a proper virgin and has chosen noodle arm nerd to be her first. And Argie will be the one to reveal it.
+--- 136742489
+>>136742085
+>it'll turn out that she never did anythin' sexual with those blokes
+
+>has 15 ex-boyfriends
+>has a very sexually active mom that don't care if her daughter brings guys home
+>Is very willing to have sex with Nerd
+I just don't believe that. For that theory to be true that would mean all 15 of her prior boyfriends turned her down which is fucking highly unlikely. The way she just causally offered to fuck him like it wasn't a big deal, yeah this ain't her first rodeo.
+--- 136742662
+>>136742489
+You forget that this is a twitter artist 
+They have learned to take eastern subversion tropes and but them in their comics
+--- 136742688
+>>136740579
+In a row?
+--- 136743013
+So the next thing is gonna be this chick stealing the nerd right?
+--- 136743220
+>>136742662
+>>136742085
+I'm still going with he'll rip off American Dad again, with the Stan finds out Francine is a reformed slut and she gives him a free pass to fuck around to break his insecurity. She'll get coldfeet on the deal and he'll realize he likes her despite her bodycount and she's relieved, only for him to reveal he fucked another girl like Black Skyla or >>136743013 and she feels cucked.
+--- 136743836
+>>136737400
+What an imbecile.
+--- 136743927
+>>136743013
+Anon, the Queen of England there is dead. She won't be fucking anyone.
+--- 136744381
+>>136730507
+15 SAUSAGES
+--- 136744394
+>>136743927
+Not without a shovel.

co/136730755.txt

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+-----
+--- 136730755
+It's really staggering how little early 2000s Marvel comics gave a shit about previous stories. They really thought they were writing the hottest shit ever.
+--- 136730799
+You act like that's not still happening. Immortal Hulk to Starship Hulk is one of the most staggering transitions between stories I have seen in a long time. And none of it's even going to pay off since Cates is leaving the book. Thanks for coming in just long enough to fuck everything up.
+--- 136730810
+>>136730755 (OP)
+that's why that was the best decade for Marvel
+--- 136731041
+>>136730755 (OP)
+This wasn’t a bad thing for me as a 10 year old without the money or time to buy books from decades before I was born. Fresh start without outright throwing things away like DC
+--- 136731193
+>>136730755 (OP)
+Arguably the shift to movies gave writers more flexibility. They didn't know yet they were going to be fucked out of the money.
+
+The biggest fuck-up of the time remains Xorn/Magneto and not letting Jean Grey stay dead.
+--- 136732062
+>>136730755 (OP)
+They were just ok, and better thant the two following decades.
+--- 136732087
+>>136732062
+>better than the two following decades
+
+This is because literally everything has deteriorated since the start of the new millennium.
+--- 136732177
+>>136732062
+Better than the 90s too.
+--- 136732253
+>>136731041
+Giving a shit about old stories doesn't mean the reader has to go back and read decades-old stories. It just means the new stories will acknowledge them and not contradict them. It NEVER means the readers has to do homework
+--- 136732297
+>>136730755 (OP)
+The only 2000s Marvel I like is probably Ennis Punisher.
+--- 136732495
+>>136732177
+Not really. I say this as someone who didn't really like a lot of 90s Marvel but I went back and read it and 00s Marvel and 00s Marvel felt more up its own ass
+--- 136732645
+>>136732495
+Yikes.
+--- 136732674
+>>136730810
+But /co/ told me continuity is what makes comics good.
+--- 136732681
+>>136732645
+I know right? A lot of major 00s Marvel does not hold up well when you get past the surface. Somehow on the surface it looked more professional looking than 90s comics but even more shallow than them
+--- 136732795
+>>136732681
+>but even more shallow than them
+Exaggeration. You're right that they don't really hold up but at least it's not straight ass crap like the 90s.
+--- 136733434
+>>136732674
+Continuity is a shitfuck and a detriment.
+It's a very limited playground, and allows for even slight pettiness to undo decades of work. A home for hacks, a prison for actual creatives.
+It also turns fans into faggots, begging for the status quo, crying about how a character was completely sidelined, ruined, or killed off unfairly, even if the result is a great story (Not you, Tom King. You are complete shit.).
+--- 136733668
+>>136733434
+People argued this and we had two decades of shitty comics following this anti-continuity mentality. I no longer give a shit about people crying about continuity-obsessed fans, because they were the ones who ended up ruining comics in the end instead
+--- 136734237
+>>136730799
+PJK run seems to be more like Inmortal
+--- 136734329
+>>136730799
+Immortal Hulk was written by a hack and carried by an artist said hack proceeded to throw under the bus
+Strange how when a white guy gets a black guy fired it's racism but when a white guy gets a spic or an asian canned it's because of "ethical issues" with the artist's "opinions"
+--- 136734350
+>>136733668
+Were the characters in these anti-continuity comics taken out of their respective continuities?
+Then it's still part of the same problem. Within and without, it's a cancer. The only real solution is make new characters with new stories in new worlds.
+--- 136734501
+The big 2 shitting on continuity nonstop is what got me off of their comics. I grew up reading the 70s/80s stuff where everything was a shared universe with a set continuity, it was like reading a long interconnected set of soap operas with super heroes.
+
+And what I'm missing is not this, it's that writers can go shit on the work of another writer and completely ignore a story I was reading for years before. XY character can now do this or that for no reason, what happened to this character I liked? They got written off or killed off-panel. There's a kick ass run with set story, and a set of goals it is slowly gravitating towards? Well he now has to appear in the semiannual superhero crossover, so now here's a story that makes zero sense in the context of the ongoing storyline. Or the next crossover just centers around him, so forget about the intended ending and turn it into a complete asspull. Or hey, the comic is selling only 25k now, so you have 2 issues to finish this story arc and we'll have Loeb take over the book when it relaunches from issue #1.
+
+yeah, fuck that.
+--- 136734519
+it all went downhill when Big Jim left Marvel
+--- 136734631
+>>136730755 (OP)
+It was pretty good too. The previous decade of the 90s was so shit for Marvel I think they just decided to start ignoring shit.
+--- 136734653
+>>136734501
+Yeah, this is why continuity sucks.
+--- 136734695
+>>136734329
+cates is still a fucking hack and a drug addict lol
+--- 136734784
+>>136734329
+I haven't read Immortal Hulk yet because I thought the art looked like shit.
+--- 136734820
+>>136734653
+>Continuity sucks because the writers don't care about continuity
+
+Wow big brained thinking there
+--- 136734844
+So what exactly did they ignore that was so terrible?
+--- 136734883
+>>136734519
+True, but a lot of it went down hill when Big Jim got to Marvel. Remember too, that regardless of what Shooter says, Roy Thomas and Star Wars saved Marvel.
+--- 136734932
+>>136734350
+Fuck off, I've heard this excuse before. 
+>Waaaah if it wasn't for continuity we could do better comics
+>Waaaah if these characters had their own universes we could do better comics
+
+Ok where are the better comics? Seems to be the people saying we need to get rid of continuity are the same ones that write shit where characters are interchangable from their other comics.
+--- 136734982
+>>136734820
+Exactly.
+>>136734932
+New characters, doofus.
+--- 136734993
+>>136730799
+Sending Hulk to space to divorce him from the very mood heavy Immortal story makes sense. But it was executed poorly and as a lackluster story that didn't take any of the characterization and character growth.
+--- 136735029
+>>136734982
+>New characters, doofus.
+
+We had a lot of new comics and characters in the last decade through Image and all of that. How many were lasting? Saga, probably?
+--- 136735082
+>>136733434
+You say that, but every attempt to throw it off completely has been a total shitfest. 
+A better idea, if you want to tell a story but don't want to deal with the fact that the writer before you brought the characters into a direction you don't care for, is simply writing something in a self-contained continuity like DC has done for ages.
+--- 136735475
+You need to keep things fresh and relevant for audiences. A lot of your sacred cow 60's-80's material just looks dated to most people.
+--- 136735667
+>>136735029
+Probably none. There are definitely more problems beyond continuity. They need good creators and they need to stop being adaptation bait.
+Saga is just shit.
+--- 136736664
+no one cares
+--- 136737360
+>>136733668
+>this anti-continuity mentality
+Where, anon? /co/ in particular is a place where nobody has talked about anything regarding big two comics except continuity. Ironic that OP used a pic of Daredevil because Miller came and completely revamped the character, something chucklefucks around here would hate today.
+--- 136737569
+>>136730755 (OP)
+Early 2000s Marvel is the result of a new editorial regime under Quesada and Bill Jemas giving writers the green light to do whatever they wanted, with no regard to past continuity and characterization, nor any regard to the shared universe and other current titles, and at the same time Marvel leaving the CCA, giving writers a green light to make their stories more 'mature' in the worst most immature person's idea of 'mature'.
+
+Quesada continuing his Marvel Knights ethos of bringing in talent that didn't normally work at Marvel nor on superhero books meant the company's talent pool was full of people who didn't care about the books and characters they were working on, nor about superheroes in general, more than it had ever been before.
+
+As much as some people love some of those early 2000s Marvel books, it quickly had a terrible effect on the company and the characters. We're now over 20 years into Marvel running itself like that, employing people who aren't invested in what they're doing and letting them do whatever they want, and just look at the absolute state of the Marvel Universe.
+--- 136737749
+>>136734695
+Ewing is a bisexual hack, honestly just as sad
+--- 136737754
+>>136737360
+>Where, anon?
+
+In comics during the 00s and 10s
+--- 136737802
+Look at this thread
+>>136708479 →
+No one cares about your obsession with continuity for 50 fucking years. Its over, its only for dying old men, let it go.
+--- 136737957
+>>136734653
+>continuity sucks because writers literally don't allow for it
+You're not supposed to defend the thing you're against anon.
+--- 136737982
+>>136735475
+Gleb is a fucking retard with shit art
+--- 136738010
+>>136737957
+It's bad because it exists. People keeping to it or breaking out of it are both problems.
+--- 136738178
+>>136737802
+The dying old men are the ones against continuity. They're trying in vain to gaslight people to say continuity bad and nobody is listening
+--- 136738230
+>>136737982
+That's not the real Gleb
+--- 136738247
+Getting into Daredevil with vol 2 left me totally unprepared for people to have strong feelings towards Karen Page. 
+
+The best example though has to be BendisVengers easily though
+--- 136740672
+>>136730755 (OP)
+The 2000s in general was shit. Did you see the Marvel cartoons out?
+--- 136741339
+>>136734883
+I mean.....Jim admits that.
+--- 136741356
+>>136730810
+Not even close.
+--- 136741397
+>>136731193
+>They didn't know yet they were going to be fucked out of the money.
+They weren’t. They were paid for their comics. That’s what they’re entitled to. 
+
+I’m so sick of you faggots defending people signing contracts and then whining about them
+--- 136741437
+>>136734350
+Bro you’re literally just asking for minis and OGNs which get published monthly. You clearly don’t buy OR read comics.
+
+And no, I don’t care for your “b-because they suck” excuse. Then stop fucking discussing them faggot.
+--- 136741466
+>>136734883
+Fuck man Roy’s the man
+--- 136741489
+>>136738178
+delusional, this hatred for continuity is 100% a smug zoomer trend because they just want gay self insert homo slice of life and activism but no serious respect for a character's history or significance
+--- 136741506
+>>136734982
+No no answer the question
+>Ok where are the better comics?
+
+>>136735082
+NAME A COMIC
+--- 136741510
+>>136741356
+yes
+--- 136741577
+>>136741510
+60s and 70s are both better
+
+There aren’t five marvel comics, whether ongoings or minis or events, from between 00-09 I’d recommend.
+--- 136741599
+>>136735475
+I mean the funny thing is the writing and art from the 2000s is TEN times more dated than Byrnes intentionally traditional and timeless Superman which wasn’t even his own norm (nor the norm for his Superman series overall).
+--- 136741768
+>>136741577
+>60s
+--- 136741970
+>>136741506
+>Ok where are the better comics?
+Manga.
+--- 136741996
+>>136741970
+But they have continuity
+--- 136742012
+>>136741768
+Cope
+--- 136742045
+>>136735475
+People still buy DKR, Watchmen, and Sandman and those are from the 80s and 90s
+--- 136742062
+>>136741996
+They do not.
+--- 136742076
+>>136742062
+Yes they do. They're not episodic
+--- 136742123
+>>136742062
+I don't think you read enough manga
+--- 136742276
+>>136742076
+Ah. You're pulling this semantics bullshit because you don't have a real argument.
+They aren't part of an entire brand's continuity. Each title is its own thing.
+>>136742123
+I have.
+--- 136742338
+>>136742276
+Ah, so you're illiterate. We are talking about continuity, not a shared universe. Go back to /a/ it might be more your speed
+--- 136742411
+>>136742012
+Ssssseethe, spiderman
+--- 136742856
+>>136742338
+Manga don't do runs either.
+--- 136743779
+>>136730755 (OP)
+How so?

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@@ -0,0 +1,694 @@
+-----
+--- 136731392
+Why do people like shitty SoL life simulator cartoons? Cartoons were never meant for the mundane.
+--- 136731401
+>>136731392 (OP)
+Eds life is anything but mundane
+--- 136731409
+EEnE was never slice of life.
+I dare say it's closer to golden age slapstick than almost any other tv cartoon.
+--- 136731418
+>>136731392 (OP)
+Probably, for the same reason people like reality tv.
+--- 136731429
+>>136731418
+Reality TV is so 2000s. Get with the times, grandpa.
+--- 136731439
+>>136731392 (OP)
+...have you watched a single episode of EEnE? It's chaotic as fuck golden age of animation slapstick and completely disregards physics. There's an episode where Eddy eats the fucking sun and another where Ed pulls on one of his hairs make them spin around like a helicopter.
+--- 136731535
+>>136731439
+Not to mention that episode where the Eds got stuck in Johnny's wall, or Ed taps into demonic forces that gets a murder of crows to swarm the Ed Boys, or Johnny and Eddy going full hog in playing superhero and supervillain. Shit was dope, and the idea their antics were mudane was anything but.
+--- 136731564
+>>136731392 (OP)
+Pic unrelated, I assume?
+--- 136731580
+>>136731401
+>>136731409
+>>136731439
+>>136731535
+There was no sci-fi or fantasy elements and it took place in a normal suburb. That's pretty mundane.
+--- 136731635
+>>136731580
+There was literally an episode with an alien invasion and it had several fantasy elements like the episode where Ed summons a demon. You've never watched the show have you?
+--- 136731660
+Cartoons in the old days were about some cat trying to catch a mouse, as if that isn't SoL shit as well
+--- 136731674
+>>136731580
+See
+>>136731564
+Cartoons are supposed to be about escapism. If I wanted to watch a show about people hanging out in the suburbs I'd just play outside.
+--- 136731698
+>>136731580
+There was a whole episode about a phone that curses you with increasing misfortune. Like on the level of a bloat of hippos stampeding all over your face.
+--- 136731765
+>>136731580
+Ed had an imaginary friend that could actually interact with people and beat the everloving shit out of Eddy, summoned a literal demon, duplicated himself off-screen to carry a long plank, lifted up entire houses regularly, and took the entire cul-de-sac hostage when he imagined himself as an alien and used an alien suit like it was a full extension of his body. And that's just what immediately comes to mind for one character's interactions. EEnE was like taking a mundane setting and twisting it into the most insane shit you could possibly think of.
+--- 136731769
+>>136731635
+>>136731698
+Cool now explain how this is comparable to Ben 10 or any superhero cartoon.
+--- 136731796
+>>136731769
+>Moving the goalposts
+LOL
+--- 136731803
+>>136731769
+What kind of retard would ever want to compare this to Ben 10?
+--- 136731838
+>>136731392 (OP)
+Never post on this board again
+--- 136731865
+>>136731674
+So what you're saying is, as a kid you and your friends built a large functioning city out of cardboard? Or that you and your friends inflated an inner tube and sailed down the river in it free from parental supervision? Or that you and your friends built a steel bunker in a bush so you could win a game of hide and seek?
+--- 136731867
+>>136731796
+>>136731803
+When people say sci-fi and fantasy cartoons, they think to stuff like He-Man and Transformers. It's bad faith to act like this is comparable to what people mean.
+--- 136731896
+>>136731769
+Ben 10 never had a mystical phone that makes bad luck happen. It was just a normal story of a cross country roadtrip with a kid who just so happened to be able to turn into aliens. Side by side I'd say the cursed fuzzy phone that can and will summon hippos to stampede you or a heavy object to fall from thin air to be MORE absurd than anything in Ben 10.
+--- 136731917
+Saying Ed edd n eddy is a SOL cartoon is like saying that Tom and Jerry and SpongeBob and Rocko are slice of life cartoons by that exact logic. You have to be actually retarded to think Ed have anything in common with Doug or some shit.
+
+Sounds like you're projecting your childhood trauma on the show anon
+--- 136731944
+>>136731769
+Ben 10 is unironically more grounded than EEnE in spite of the alien stuff. EEnE is fucking off the walls comparatively. Also directly comparing an episodic comedy to a serialized action show is stupid.
+--- 136732017
+>>136731867
+No, it's bad faith to be thinking anyone is thinking of Ben 10, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, or the Transformers when talking about EEnE. That's as retarded as asking "Why is Mike Lu & Og not like Adventure Time" or "Why is Chowder not like Powerpuff Girls". You'd have to be an idiot to think that EEnE and Ben 10 are in any regards comparable, it's like claiming an apple is a pineapple cause they both aired on Cartoon Network.
+--- 136732023
+>>136731917
+If anything, EEnE fans are the ones projecting their lack of friends and watch shows like Doug and EEnE.
+--- 136732124
+>>136732023
+1. Not every EEnE fan watchs Doug because like I said those shows have nothing in common 
+2.I said that you're projecting because from I've what I've gathered from here, it sounds like YOU were the one who had no friends as a kid, and hated shows like EEnE and Hey Arnold specifically because they reminded of something you'll never have: a friend group and a loving family. So you instead gravitated towards stuff like Ben 10 and Thundercats to escape you shitty life.
+
+It's probably not that, but that's how you come off to me, anon.
+--- 136732138
+>>136731429
+>Reality tv is so 2000's
+
+The same goes for eds
+--- 136732417
+As far as I remember EEnE takes place in purgatory.
+--- 136732452
+>>136731392 (OP)
+your life was like ee&e? what kind of fucked up childhood did you have?
+--- 136732547
+>>136731769
+>shifts goalpost
+Begone zoom zoom
+--- 136732573
+>>136732547
+I was born before the 90s, late millennial
+--- 136732684
+>>136731392 (OP)
+The only thing cartoons need to be is entertaining. If you don't like it that's a different story but cartoons weren't meant for much past that as a concept.
+--- 136733342
+>>136732684
+Cartoons were meant for be escapist. Watching kids hang out in a suburban area isn't entertaining.
+--- 136733594
+>>136733342
+It's whatever gets the job done in being entertaining, snob. Whether it's seeing coyotes smashed by anvils, watching a man dressed as a bat sock a clown in the jaw, or kids messing around in a suburb and getting into more ridiculous situations than they bargained for, if they find it entertaining than it's good enough.
+--- 136733631
+>>136733342
+And EEnE isn't about "some kids hanging out in a suburban area". Just because it's set in the suburbs doesn't mean the show is just that. It's about ludicrous fast-paced slapstick and surrealist reality-breaking.
+--- 136734121
+>>136731392 (OP)
+>EEnE
+>Mundane
+
+A zoomer made this post after reading the Wikipedia summary of the show
+--- 136734152
+>>136734121
+This show aired for the entirety of the 2000s. Even zoomers would know better; OP is plain retarded regardless of generations.
+--- 136735072
+>>136734121
+>>136734152
+I was born before the 90s.
+--- 136735103
+>>136731392 (OP)
+Why are you imitating smalldick fag?
+--- 136735297
+>>136735072
+ah, so you are just an old retard then
+--- 136735588
+>>136732573
+Mhmm, sure you were
+--- 136735632
+>>136732417
+>remember
+That's not the right word.
+--- 136737110
+>>136731917
+>Tom and Jerry and SpongeBob and Rocko
+They're all about talking animals which makes them much more fantastical than a show about suburbian kids engaging in exaggerated but still slice of life-y antics.
+--- 136737161
+>>136731769
+Stop shifting the goalposts you asshole.
+--- 136737200
+>>136737110
+This. They actually feel like cartoons rather than life simulators.
+--- 136737287
+>>136731392 (OP)
+Ahem...
+This is mundane?
+--- 136737326
+>>136731769
+>Cool now explain how this apple is comparable to this orange or any other citrus fruit.
+--- 136737364
+>>136731635
+>>136731698
+>There was an episode
+So what? Clarence had that one mindfuck episode about pizza guy, but much like EEnE, it's still a boring SoL show about a bunch of weird kids fucking around. Going by your logic every cartoon with a Halloween episode is actually a horror.
+--- 136737408
+>>136737364
+Fuck off OP your arguments are shit and your taste is trash, quit spamming the catalog with your crap.
+--- 136737454
+>>136731392 (OP)
+
+People can make and animate whatever the fuck they want.
+--- 136737497
+I think it's pretty clear that OP has either never seen the show, or is acting obtusely on purpose to stir shit up. Either way, let's ignore him and have a comfy EE&E thread.
+--- 136737510
+>>136737497
+What's your favorite EE&E episode?
+--- 136737548
+>>136737510
+ThunderCats
+--- 136737655
+>>136737161
+>>136737326
+I just don't care for mundane garbage. Cartoons are supposed to be about escapism and imagination, not living an average life.
+--- 136737685
+>>136737655
+No one fucking cares about your inability to comprehend what is and isn't a mundane SoL cartoon piss off.
+--- 136737831
+>>136737685
+>fuck off and watch boring SoL instead of fantasy and sci-fi
+>fuck off and watch hipster trash like Bone instead of capeshit
+>fuck off and watch smalldick anime instead of cartoons
+Why is this board like this?
+--- 136737865
+>>136737831
+Why are you so devoid of braincells that you can't make an actual argument.
+--- 136738012
+Reminder, OP is just copying me and my posts, and I wouldn't be surprised if most of this argument was her arguing with herself because she's assblasted I made fun of the Ed fanbase demographic
+--- 136738045
+>>136738012
+At this point I'm pretty sure this is just you making these threads and you're doing damage control pretending that someone is imitating you.
+--- 136738081
+>>136737510
+I think it's either the inflatable tire boat episode or the cardboard city one. They both made me feel wistful when I was a kid. Probably still would right now.
+--- 136738093
+>>136738045
+I can't believe we're all here watching /co/ attract another shit thread spamming autist and none of us is able to do a god damn thing to stop them.
+--- 136738112
+>>136738012
+>I made fun of the Ed fanbase demographic
+So people with taste?
+--- 136738142
+>>136738045
+What I would gain from making these threads, while also calling myself out? What damage would that be controlling? We're all anon anyway.
+
+I'm only letting it be known so people know they're explicitly being baited/that this is coming from a place of butthurt
+--- 136738173
+>>136738142
+Did you start your gay ass crusade because you were butthurt someone shat on Ben 10?
+--- 136738258
+>>136738142
+>We're all anon anyway.
+So why are you so concerned about someone "impersonating" you? All you're doing is drawing attention to yourself and your dogshit opinions. It's gotten to the point that people have given you the name smalldick fag based on your past spergery.
+--- 136738308
+>>136738012
+>her
+There are no (real) women on /co/ and OP isn't going to fuck you.
+--- 136738344
+>>136738173
+The only one with a crusade is OP, I just stated my opinions when someone was being antagonistic about genre fiction
+
+I mean if you hate genres like scifi and fantasy etc, what cartoons can you possibly be into since most cartoons fall under the banner of "genre fiction"? I think probably shit like EEnE and Hey Arnold, and it seems I really struck a nerve considering the last few days and these tantrum threads.
+--- 136738410
+>>136738344
+Oh bullshit, you were pulling the exact bullshit in the Marvel thread. The OP wasn't even shitting on cartoons but you started bitching because someone brought up Bone.
+--- 136738484
+>>136738410
+He did the same thing in a Transformers thread. The OP was literally complementing Transformers and the thread was chill until he showed up and started accusing people of impersonating him. Dude is a schizo.
+--- 136738508
+>>136738410
+Someone didn't "bring up Bone" they said "/CO/ HATES SUPERHEROES YOU IDIOTS SHOULD READ INTELLECTUAL COMICS, LIKE BONE"
+
+Big difference.
+--- 136738512
+>>136738484
+Why do so many of our boards schizo’s have to be like this, obnoxious and incapable of learning anything?
+--- 136738549
+>>136738344
+>The only one with a crusade is OP, I just stated my opinions when someone was being antagonistic about genre fiction
+So why do keep showing in these threads like clockwork like you Zenigata chasing Lupin?
+--- 136738587
+>>136738508
+Why do capefags fear other genres this badly?
+--- 136738656
+>>136738508
+I stand by my point; no one was talking about genre fiction in cartoons or slice of life yet one someone said something you personally didn't like and you came stomping around like a child.
+It's getting to feel like you're stalking certain threads just to insert yourself into thread conversations.
+--- 136738694
+>>136738093
+>>136738512
+OP is the schizophrenic. I'm just here to straighten out the facts and point out she's just butthurt.
+--- 136738695
+>>136738656
+>no one was talking about genre fiction in cartoons or slice of life 
+That's literally what the thread was. "Genre fiction is the worst thing to happen to cartoons" or w/e, that was the OP of the thread.
+--- 136738715
+>>136738695
+Retard, I was talking about the Marvel thread. Do you have any reading comprehension?
+--- 136738717
+>>136737364
+Zoomers were born without souls so you guys can't comprehend good media unless it's nonstop sounds and colors blasted in your face.
+--- 136738736
+EAT THE SUN
+--- 136738748
+>>136738717
+That's late millenials retard. Zoomers prefer introspective shows.
+--- 136738755
+>>136738715
+That thread got derailed immediately because of Japs and hipster comic fans, totally unrelated
+--- 136738772
+>>136738717
+I swear this board is that bike meme when it comes to zoomers.
+--- 136738800
+>>136738755
+>Japs 
+Again, not a single person mentioned anything Japanese. That's just your weird anti Asian racism.
+--- 136738859
+>>136738755
+WHAT THE FUCK ATTRACTED YOU TO THAT THREAD THEN?
+YOU SAID YOUR ONLY PROBLEM WAS WITH THIS ONE GUY (supposedly) WITH A SPECIFIC POSTING PATTERN, WHY ARE YOU SHITTING UP OTHER THREADS?
+--- 136738880
+>>136738755
+Why do you hate Japan so much smalldick fag?
+--- 136738905
+>>136738880
+He couldn't take east vs west bants and now he can't stop thinking about Asian penises.
+--- 136738915
+>>136738755
+the japanese are in no way related to this thread. your racism is delusional
+--- 136738924
+>>136731580
+>getting molested and harassed by the same group of girls weekly is mundane
+--- 136738940
+>>136738859
+I'm a Marvel fan? I go in Marvel threads looking to discuss Marvel, anime fags and hipster comic fans immediately ruin the thread, somehow this is my fault 
+>STOP BEING MEAN TO PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING MEAN
+--- 136738943
+>>136738924
+>Scamming the entire fucking neighborhood with absurd contraptions that are prone to breaking apart at a moment's notice is mundane
+--- 136739123
+>smalldick fag
+>obsessed with escapism 
+>get butthurt that genre fiction got insulted and sperged hardcore about suburban cartoons (OP didn't even mention slice of life)
+>thinks people who like EEnE are losers trying to project their loneliness 
+>hates anime to the point of hating all Asians and posts about their tiny dicks (post anything anti American and he'll think he won the argument)
+>is a capefag who lashes at other genres as "hipster genres"
+>called Bone, Donald Duck comics and Asterix cutesy shit for faggots
+This guy is like, inverted industrycuck.
+--- 136739185
+>>136738940
+>STOP BEING MEAN TO PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING MEAN
+What is this, tumblr? No one cares about you "being mean", they're saying you're an obnoxious faggot.
+--- 136739234
+>>136739185
+And I'm saying anime fags who are on the wrong board, and hipsters who think they're special for going against popular opinion are obnoxious faggots
+
+And I'm right
+--- 136739306
+>>136739234
+Crying about obnoxious faggots doesn't make you any less of one.
+>And I'm right
+Case in point.
+--- 136739347
+>>136739123
+>is a capefag who lashes at other genres as "hipster genres"
+Now when he says hipster genres does he mean stuff like Fantagraphics or…
+>called Bone, Donald Duck comics and Asterix cutesy shit for faggots
+Never mind, this dude is a fucking tard.
+--- 136739375
+>>136738940
+I go to Marvel threads and I can tell you're full of shit. Because we rib on capeshit and we never see you REEEEEE about hipsters and anime.
+--- 136739390
+>>136739123
+If only he wasn't so biased he'd be able to see that cartoons and anime have far more in common than tribal faggots on both sides would ever care to admit.
+--- 136739419
+>>136731392 (OP)
+I just want to say congrats OP. It seems you've figured out a formula to draw out autists with shitty opinions. These past threads have hilarious to watch.
+--- 136739424
+>>136739306
+Wow so I guess you're an obnoxious faggot for crying about me. 
+
+>>136739375
+Wow, every Marvel thread? Wow, you mean you don't see my posts in some of the Marvel threads up right now? It's almost like we're....anonymous
+--- 136739465
+>>136739424
+Anon he clearly means you have a distinct posting style that would tip you off if you actually did post there. The whole part of being anonymous is you don't act like a knob to the point you get a nickname.
+--- 136739483
+>>136739390
+>STOP BEING MEAN TO PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING MEAN
+--- 136739495
+>>136739465
+If he was capable of not acting like a knob he wouldn't have a nickname to begin with, if you're old enough to post here you should be old enough to know what the hell you're doing and learn from your mistakes even if you're autistic.
+--- 136739506
+>>136739424
+>Wow so I guess you're an obnoxious faggot for crying about me. 
+People being tired of your bullshit for several threads straight isn't crying. We have enough schizos as it is.
+--- 136739538
+>>136739483
+Shut the hell up you god damn mouth breather, you keep spazzing out in the same fucking way yet you still wonder why people are able to identify you even without a name, piss off.
+--- 136739600
+>>136738940
+>anime fags
+Again, anime was never brought up in that thread. Jesus if you hate anime so much how did you end up on 4*chan*.
+--- 136739644
+>>136739495
+>>136739506
+>>136739538
+Smalldick go watch Naruto.
+--- 136739650
+>>136739600
+He probably thinks he's being different by hating on all things Japanese on a site derived from Japanese autism.
+--- 136739671
+>>136739644
+>Why do people keep going after me I'm just a totally normal anon
+>smalldicksmalldicksmalldicksmalldicksmalldick
+--- 136739690
+>>136737110
+>>136737200
+>suburbian kids engaging in exaggerated but still slice of life-y antics
+
+I can name multiple episodes of Rocko and SB that are literally just this. Just replace kids with adults. 
+
+Actually no, Spongebob can be applied to this even with kids attached. There were literally episodes about Spongebob learning not to swear or learning not to be a pompous jerk, and he often gets in trouble with older authority figures. Him and Patrick constantly engage in childlike activities such as making sand castles or using their imagination to enhance a paper. That sounds like stuff kids would do.
+
+
+Gee, it's almost if there's more to a show than just a Wikipedia synopsis and the DVD cover! Thanks for proving to be a stupid dipshit anon.
+--- 136739704
+>>136733342
+Good thing the scams are typically grandiose in scale beyond reality's shitty lemonade stands.
+--- 136739817
+>>136739650
+Ironically this would make him no different from the capeshit hating hipsters he hates so much
+--- 136740217
+>>136739671
+This is the part where you start spamming anti American bullshit like small dick Asians are prone to doing.
+--- 136740276
+>>136739465
+I am in a lot of Marvel threads right now, a couple of the ones up right now I created
+
+>>136739600
+If you hate cartoons so much how did you end up on the cartoon board
+
+This thread also proves how autistic the EEnE fanbase is, they're the biggest autistic fucks. Becky Glucose is one of you, and you all probably look like her.
+--- 136740324
+>>136731580
+>MY DEFINITION IS FACT
+fuck off sperg
+--- 136740329
+>>136740276
+>I am in a lot of Marvel threads right now, a couple of the ones up right now I created
+Sure you did anon. You'd probably link them up if you weren't full of shit.
+--- 136740387
+>>136740324
+Fuck off EEnE autist. Shouldn't you be drawing underage porn like your hero?
+--- 136740435
+>>136740276
+>If you hate cartoons so much how did you end up on the cartoon board
+When the fuck did I say I hated cartoons!? What plane of reality are you on?!
+--- 136740444
+>>136740329
+>link up the threads so i can go shit in them
+Nah
+--- 136740449
+>>136740217
+I like both you delusional straw manning faggot, piss off.
+--- 136740455
+>>136740444
+See, you're full of shit.
+--- 136740484
+>>136740444
+You do realize people will just troll any Marvel thread now that you tipped them off, right? Especially since you've shown how easy they are to bait.
+--- 136740505
+>>136740449
+Just say you hate cartoons already you faggot.
+--- 136740532
+>>136731867
+It was moving the goalposts to bring up fantasy/sci-fi to begin with. OP didn't mention that, unless they think "sci-fi, fantasy, slice of life" are the only genres of cartoon
+--- 136740566
+>>136740276
+If anything, you've shown that everything said about Marvelfags wasn't just DC shitposting and you're fully deserving of everyone's enmity.
+--- 136740602
+>>136740484
+I'm a fan of DC too and make plenty of DC threads.
+
+If EEnE faggots are gonna start going into every capeshit thread on the board talking about how their show is better, I think they're going to be considered pretty cancerous by a lot of people pretty quickly.
+--- 136740662
+>>136740505
+No, kiss my ass, I'm not gonna let a schizo like you tell me what I can and can't enjoy, keep seething over the fact that people like me exist who enjoy both you worthless fucking faggot.
+--- 136740691
+>>136731392 (OP)
+Clarence was highly underrated
+Change my mind
+--- 136740741
+>>136740602
+Capeshitters are already considered cancerous as fuck you retard.
+--- 136740768
+>>136740602
+>is now suddenly a dc fag who's in every dc
+lol
+lmao for the fact that most of the Marvel/DC threads are about the movies and I doubt you're in those.
+--- 136740788
+>>136740662
+You smalldick anime fans will never get rid of the cartoons or the capeshit threads.
+--- 136740815
+>>136740788
+>Keeps trying to strawman everyone who disagree's with him
+This is why you're considered an autistic schizo that the board would be better off without.
+--- 136740871
+>>136740768
+I'm a fan of Marvel/DC movies too. I'm a fan of a whole lot of things discussed on this board quite frankly. The couple things I hate are pretty obvious I think.
+
+>>136740532
+Do you not know what "genre fiction" means?
+--- 136740888
+>>136740871
+So you're an MCU fag?
+--- 136741003
+>>136740888
+I think the MCU has good movies and also really, really bad movies. So no I wouldn't call myself an "MCU fag" when I spend a lot of time criticizing them.
+--- 136741040
+>>136741003
+>the MCU has good movies
+PFFFT
+--- 136741136
+There's literally a thread about shitting comics to prop up manga and smalldick fag is getting booty blasted by a 25 year old cartoon.
+--- 136741211
+>>136741136
+That's not me, it's my imposter. I've inspired a real schizo who's either a troll or an assblasted EEnE fangirl
+--- 136741230
+>>136731392 (OP)
+kill yourself
+--- 136741446
+>>136741136
+You're the one booty blasted faggot. You've been bitching about autistic EEnE fags yet I don't see you crying about smalldick anime fags and how they're shitting on comics. For the hundredth time.
+--- 136741465
+>>136741446
+Fuck meant for 
+>>136741211
+--- 136741594
+>>136741211
+>I've inspired a real schizo who's either a troll 
+It's so clearly a troll and you are so blatantly taking the bait. I can't believe you haven't realized this already.
+--- 136741898
+>>136741446
+Smalldick anime fags suck too, what do you want from me
+--- 136742354
+>>136741898
+Bother them instead of us. :D
+--- 136742374
+>>136741898
+Fuck off.
+--- 136742423
+>>136742374
+Be mad
+--- 136742444
+>>136731392 (OP)
+OP, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
+--- 136742569
+>>136742423
+You're the one spamming these shit threads in the first place asshole, quit projecting.
+--- 136742836
+>>136742569
+Didn't make the thread, but keep seething faggot, clearly it's far beyond under your skin, it's up your ass
+--- 136742849
+>>136742836
+EEnE fags are on suicide watch lol. Capefags win again.
+--- 136742880
+>>136742836
+>It's okay if I keep shitting up the board if I'm not the one who made the thread!
+--- 136742935
+Imagine if this guy does the one thing indsutrycuck and quantityfag couldn’t do and rejoin EEnE discussion on the board.
+--- 136742944
+>>136742880
+I'm shitting up the board how exactly? Because I don't suck EEnE dick or like anime? Anime isn't even allowed here.
+--- 136742968
+>>136742935
+He’s samefagging and pretending he has an autist who keeps imitating him, he’s well beyond the point that he could learn to stop sperging out anon.
+--- 136743012
+>>136742944
+Setting aside the fact that this is an anime website, Toonami threads are allowed on Saturdays.
+--- 136743092
+>>136743012
+>le anime website
+Le Western media board. Weebs need to stop deluding themselves into thinking everyone who uses the site is a sissy freak like them.
+--- 136743198
+>>136743092
+You realize several people who work in the comics and cartoons are anime fans and took notes from their work right?
+--- 136743207
+>>136743092
+>He says while posting on 4chan
+--- 136743388
+>>136743198
+And I'm supposed to care.....because? That's like when people say if you listen to any rock based music ever you need to kneel and worship black cock because Chuck Berry influenced somebody, nobody cares
+
+And you can make the same argument the other way around too, tons of anime and manga shit was influenced by Western media, I don't think anime fags give a shit about that either
+--- 136743401
+>>136743388
+>I don't think anime fags give a shit about that either
+Could you quit strawmanning for a single minute you retard? You act like East vs West threads make up 99% of people's opinions for /a/ and /co/.
+--- 136743421
+>>136743388
+>That's like when people say if you listen to any rock based music ever you need to kneel and worship black cock because Chuck Berry influenced somebody
+Imagine thinking giving credit to the black artists who helped found rock and roll is somehow the equivalent of slurping down BBC. You're deranged.
+--- 136743437
+>>136743401
+They do
+>>136708479 →
+These threads are weekly.
+--- 136743465
+>>136743437
+it's toonami general fags
+--- 136743492
+>>136743437
+All this tells me is that both boards have tribalfags that need to fuck off and quit their shitstirring nonsense.
+--- 136743501
+>>136743465
+Toonami General fags have a point. You people are dying; face the music.
+--- 136743537
+>>136743492
+Lol, how is it tribal nonsense if people agree with this and it gets posted weekly? Even the mods protect it.
+--- 136743566
+>>136743537
+I don't fucking care, I'm not interested in hearing people waste their breath about which variety of cartoon and comics they like is the best and how their competition is rotting and the worst shit ever, it's fucking old.
+--- 136743580
+>>136743421
+Point is, no matter who influenced what, the end products and demographics who enjoy said products are entirely different. Someone who's a Metallica fan has no objective reason to like Chuck Berry just because he influenced Ted Nugent and Ted Nugent influenced Metallica and....yeah nobody cares.
+
+I like things that steal from other cultures and make them better. I don't care if that bothers someone.
+--- 136743632
+>>136743580
+See
+>>136743566
+You gonna dilate now anime fag? Huh?
+--- 136743651
+>>136743632
+Your tribal autism doesn't work on me, I like both, you and all the other mouth breathers who keep doing East vs West shit need to fuck off.
+--- 136743655
+>>136737510
+The home movie episode killed my sides as a kid
+--- 136743683
+>>136743655
+Sounds like you had a depressing childhood.
+--- 136743712
+>>136743655
+I need to rewatch the show, it's been a while since I've seen so I don't remember it well, if I had to say any right now though the one where Kevin let's his paranoia over the Ed's scams get the better of him was pretty fucking great.
+--- 136743773
+>>136731580
+--- 136743824
+>>136731580
+>>136737287
+--- 136743830
+>>136743651
+Asian women still prefer white men chang.
+--- 136743850
+>>136743830
+Okay? I plan on dying without ever going out with someone anyways.
+--- 136743892
+>>136743850
+Yes we know anime fans are incels. No need to cry about it Chang.
+--- 136743905
+>>136743892
+Why do you seethe so much about which brand of cartoons you autistically sperg over is better anon, both are animation mainly targeted at kids.
+--- 136743934
+>>136743651
+Good like with your dying medium while manga and anime continue to grow lol.
+--- 136744084
+>>136743388
+>>136743580
+It shows that gap between anime and cartoon fans isn't as far as you're implying; plenty like both. It's only fags like you and the other shitters that force this divide.
+--- 136744119
+>>136743092
+/co/ is filled with sissy freaks outside of /a/ influence wdym?
+--- 136744124
+>>136744084
+Yeah, even if faggots like the one you replied to want to pretend you HAVE to pick a side it's more than possible to enjoy both, him and the other shitters will never admit it though.
+--- 136744190
+>>136744084
+So what though? There's still no reason anybody needs to like both. Point is, this is the cartoon board.....you think it's a bad thing to shit on anime fans who camp out here constantly making off topic bait or shoehorning off topic shit into discussion? They're the problem, you need to cope with that.
+
+>>136743934
+>Good like
+ESL fag
+
+>>136744119
+Guarantee all the sissy freaks are anime fans
+--- 136744300
+>>136744190
+You'd have something resembling a decent point if you weren't a hyper autist who thinks anime is so terrible that you're okay with people stealing from them to make cartoons better, go sperg somewhere else.
+--- 136744316
+>>136744190
+>There's still no reason anybody needs to like both. 
+Unless you hate variety I don't see why you would restrict yourself to one country's media. But even if you don't like anime, I don't see why you would have a seething hatred over it or obsess over Asian dicks.
+--- 136744354
+>>136744190
+>constantly making off topic bait or shoehorning off topic shit into discussion? They're the problem, you need to cope with that.
+You're fucking retarded if you think that's exclusive to animefags. Fuck, /a/ doesn't even care about this place.
+--- 136744365
+>>136744316
+>Tribalfag
+>Capable of seeing depth in anything other than than the one thing they like
+Tribalfags here constantly get into autistic fights over whether or not Owl House or Amphibia are good and the other is steaming dogshit when even the creators of the shows are friendly with each other, they can't be reasoned with.
+--- 136744380
+>>136744190
+>Guarantee all the sissy freaks are anime fans
+People could cosplay as Goofy and have sex while in character and you'd probably tie that with animefags somehow.
+--- 136744425
+>>136744190
+>you think it's a bad thing to shit on anime fans
+Yes, yes I do.
+--- 136744445
+>>136744300
+>>136744365
+Don't you have some dogs to cook?
+--- 136744469
+>>136744445
+Don't you have some meds you should take?
+--- 136744602
+Ed, Edd, and Eddy were on a quest to find the ultimate ham. They had heard that it was located in the center of the Peach Creek Junkyard, guarded by the Junkyard Kankers. They snuck into the junkyard, avoiding traps and obstacles, and finally reached the center. There, they found the ultimate ham, gleaming and golden. Eddy tried to grab it, but suddenly, the Junkyard Kankers appeared, demanding a toll. Ed stepped forward and offered them his favorite jawbreaker, and the Kankers accepted. As the Eds triumphantly grabbed the ultimate ham, they realized it was still cold. They looked up and saw that they were surrounded by dozens of ham-loving junkyard dogs, growling and salivating. The Eds knew they had to fight for their ham, so they pulled out their slingshots and began firing jawbreakers as distraction. After a fierce battle, the Eds emerged victorious, covered in dog slobber and holding their precious ham.
+--- 136744633
+>>136731392 (OP)
+--- 136744654
+>>136744633
+Eds had four specials quantityfag

co/136731420.txt

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+-----
+--- 136731420
+>It took five years for "The Traitor" plot to be resolved and it turned out to be Xavier by way of Onslaught.
+
+How long is too long for a plot to be resolved in a big two book?
+--- 136731601
+>>136731420 (OP)
+BKV hinted that Alex Wilder could still be alive in the first issue of Runaways v2. Nico had tried to resurrect him with the Staff of One and again with the Black Mirror in between v1 and v2. The big reveal was the very last page of his run in 2007. Alex didn't actually show up till Avengers Undercover in 2014.
+
+Nicieza left the X-Men before he could wrap his Third Summers Brother idea with the Adam X reveal. Gabriel Summers was what, 13 years after the original tease?
+
+Personally I think two years is ideal, but anything more than three years is too long.
+--- 136731685
+>>136731420 (OP)
+4 months
+--- 136732057
+It took several decades for Lifebringer Galactus to be resolved.
+--- 136733465
+>>136731420 (OP)
+Only five? I felt like that was Bishop's entire thing for like a decade.
+--- 136733966
+>>136731420 (OP)
+Roderick Kingsley was introduced in 1980
+
+The Hobgoblin first appeared in 1983
+
+Ned Leeds fake out reveal as the Hobgoblin was 1987
+
+Kingsley was finally revealed as the Hobgoblin in 1997
+
+Nothing will ever top this imo
+--- 136734145
+>>136731420 (OP)
+It took two years for the Clone Saga to be resolved and it drove off readers. So I'd say anything drastic needs to be done before timeframe or the readership loses interest. Some subplots can go on for years if they're not as intrusive, case in point >>136733966
+But things like OMD would need to be resolved faster.
+--- 136734214
+>>136731420 (OP)
+Technically this was a plot from Portacio's X-Men run that kind of got forgotten for years after he'd left the book, but readers were obsessed with it, Wizard magazine was even more obsessed with it, Marvel finally tied it into the Onslaught event to give it a resolution years afterwards.
+
+An entirely separate X-Men traitor plot involving Gambit being either a minion of Mr Sinister, or Sinister himself in disguise got dropped when Claremont left in 1991, this often gets conflated with Portacio's traitor story by fans, and mistakenly treated as it all being the same thing, hence a lot of people being convinced Gambit was 100% definitely meant to be the traitor Bishop was out to stop.
+
+>>136731601
+X-Men editorial didn't want Nicieza to reveal Adam X as the third Summers brother because they thought he sucked. Nicieza wrapped up the plot as much as he was allowed to in his Captain Marvel (Genis) run in the mid 90s, while Vulcan was later introduced to finally give us an actual third brother. Modern Marvel allowed Nicieza to revisit his Adam X story and make him part of the family, though retconning his origin so he was grown in a lab from DNA samples, not born.
+--- 136734347
+>>136733966
+In fairness, nobody had any intention of Kingsley being a costumed villain when he was introduced in 1980, by Stern's own admission he didn't decide who the Hobgoblin would be until he had the art for the first Hobgoblin issue in front of him and was scripting dialogue for it. And the "fake out reveal" with Ned was at the time genuinely intended to be the end of the story by everyone involved. That Marvel brought Stern back a decade later and retconned it doesn't make this a plot that was ongoing all that time. It was a plot that resolved, then someone revisited it a decade later because an editor didn't like the way it had ended.
+
+1983 to 1987 was still years too long, and had too many fake out unmaskings along the way.
+
+>>136734145
+The Clone Saga drove off readers because they tried to tell readers that they'd been following the adventures of Spider-Man's clone since the mid 1970s, and that twist was fully intended to be real and permanent. It took a year after that for Marvel to change course and fix things, but it's not the length of the story itself that inherently drove people away, it was a stupid, destructive plot decision. Similarly, Marvel internally don't see OMD as a dangling or ongoing plot to be resolved, it was a brute force way of changing the status quo and they don't ever intend on undoing or fixing it, despite writers occasionally getting to tease or reference it just to bait readers.
+
+In general for ongoing plots, and especially mystery villains, they should be resolved within 2 years or less just so readers don't lose interest, and to ensure they can be resolved by the people who started the plot whenever possible.
+--- 136735079
+>>136734347
+I admit including all the dates was just a bit of silliness on my part
+
+Still, even in the scope of first to Leeds reveal Hobgoblin is too much
+
+I don't personally think a villain reveal should go past a year, obviously the standard is Green Goblin's two year flat but Green Goblin wasn't in the background of every storyline like modern big bads
+--- 136736917
+>>136731420 (OP)
+It was fun in the 80s when scourge might show up in any book and murder shifty villains
+--- 136736978
+>>136735079
+Part of the reason for the Hobgoblin mystery running as long as it did was Stern's desire for it to run for exactly one issue longer than the Green Goblin mystery did. This led to him choosing to leave the book without resolving it himself, and while later writers didn't care about the 'record' he was trying to set, they kept dragging it out because it was a popular storyline readers were interested in.
+
+If a mystery runs longer than 2 years, most readers can work out that the writer is just spinning his wheels and deliberately dragging it out for longer than it needs, or doesn't have a plan and is making the whole thing up as he goes along.
+--- 136737180
+>>136736917
+The Scourge was a mystery that ran for a year or two in the mid 1980s, but ended on the reveal that there was more than one Scourge, readers had more questions than answers, and it didn't really get fully explained and resolved until a US Agent mini around 1993.
+
+The whole concept being born out of the idea that Marvel had "too many" lower-tier villains that weren't getting used just feels kind of wrongheaded though. Just don't use them if you don't like them, you don't have to permanently take them out of use like that. It was also strange that as well as all the minor villains who got killed, a few B-tier Iron Man villains like Firebrand and Melter got killed.
+--- 136738279
+>>136731420 (OP)
+she has the most detailed woman ever draw by JRJr
+this is JR Jr right?
+--- 136738365
+>>136737180
+>>136736917
+
+Pretty sure Gru also regretted the whole thing because he came around to the idea that it's better for the characters to stay around and maybe a later writer will do something with them instead of just killing them all off
+
+I mean how many of the Thunderbolts cast could've been killed by Scourge for example
+--- 136738383
+>>136731420 (OP)
+We still don't know who killed Dex-Starr's owner and he debuted in 2011. 12 fucking years.
+--- 136738412
+Is Luke Cages kid still a skrull
+--- 136738817
+>>136738365
+>I mean how many of the Thunderbolts cast could've been killed by Scourge for example
+Songbird really dodged a bullet there, as Screaming Mimi she was one of the Grapplers, Scourge killed several of them. Most of the other original Thunderbolts got used too much in the 80s to justify letting the Scourge kill them, but if the Scourge kept killing, it could have happened to Fixer too.
+--- 136738973
+It took 14 years for Spider-man to cash in his favor from Loki
+--- 136739588
+Vision was killed and rebuilt as White Vision, over late 1988 and early 1989, his memories and emotions erased. John Byrne quit the Avengers books in early 1990 and nothing changed through runs by Fabian Nicieza and Larry Hama. The final issues of Avengers Spotlight in 1990 were focused on fixing up characters who'd been damaged by previous Avengers writers, the final issue was a Vision story but it didn't actually fix him.
+
+Early issues of Bob Harras' Avengers run in 1991 and 1992 gave Vision his memories back, though this wasn't treated like a new development, and more like Marvel forgot he was supposed to have lost them. Harras was the first Avengers writer to stop treating the changes to Vision like the new fixed status quo, and made it into a plot that was heading somewhere, by having him actually want to be restored to his former self. As Byrne was still working on other Marvel books, some people have suggested the theory that the refusal to fix White Vision was an attempt to appease Byrne and keep him at Marvel by not undoing one of his stories.
+
+The White Vision saga partially ended in 1993, via a body swap with an evil AU Vision who looked more like his original form, but the story didn't really end until his solo mini in late 1994 where he finally got his emotions back. Until 2015 when Mark Waid had him delete them for reasons.
+--- 136739844
+>>136739588
+Basically Harras fucking HATED what Byrne did to Vision (right down to Byrne taking away Vision's cock) but even with his editor status and Byrne ragequitting Avengers, no one was allowed to undo what Byrne did to Vision until Byrn formally left Marvel after his She-Hulk and Namor runs wrapped up in early 1993. 
+
+Avengers Spotlight #40 was a sop done to appease Larry Hama (who took over writing Avengers when Byrne quit) because Hama didn't want to write Vision as an emotionless dick and wanted to do a bromance arc with Vision and Sandman. Byrne was pissed, which led to him getting assurances that Vision would not go back to his old look or reunite with Wanda; the former lasting until as mentioned above, Byrne was gone from Marvel in 1993. 
+
+And the dick thing is real. When Harras body swapped Vision with a parallel earth version of himself, it is explicitly stated that evil Vision had a big fucking dick (which is a plot point of sorts, as evil Vision was also a rapist).
+--- 136739895
+>>136739588
+That reminds me, when does the Waid story where Vision deleted his emotions happen chronologically? I know the story (Avengers #0) was published before the King Vision series, but makes zero sense given that the Vision series hinges entirely on Vision being so lost in his love for his family that it's predicted that Vision would destroy humanity if anyone threatened them. But it would make sense, if it was an unintentional flash forward story with regards to it happening after the Vision series a form of "penance" for how far off the rails Vision went.
+--- 136739911
+>>136739588
+>>136739844
+ 
+and Vision fans have been suffering ever since
+--- 136739921
+>>136738973
+And only because the original pay-off (Slott saying it was cashed in off-panel with Peter having Loki help him move a new couch into his apartment) was widely rejected and Slott getting pissy that people like Jesse Baker and Kirk Boxleitner were basically pushing the fan theory that the "favor" would be how Marvel should undo One More Day.
+--- 136739939
+>>136738383
+It was actually revealed; he killed his owners murderer but never found out that he did it.
+--- 136739950
+>growing up thought Jean was the ugliest
+>now I think she is the hottest
+Why?
+--- 136739968
+>>136738973
+I think the thing about the favor from Loki that people always overlook is that JMS already had him cash it in
+
+Peter got a hot dog
+--- 136739975
+>>136737180
+Explain the Scourge clusterfuck as I've never read about the storyline.
+--- 136740032
+>>136739968
+
+still drives me crazy people either forget this or ignore it so they can bitch. like OMD is bad enough
+--- 136740229
+>>136739939
+damn, in what book did this happen?
+--- 136740412
+>>136739844
+I think Byrne was trying to imply Vision never had a schlong, and trying to retcon that he and Wanda never had sex, despite his debut story telling us his body was "in every way" a male body, but synthetic, and various older comics making it as obvious as the CCA would allow that they were sexually active. You sometimes see readers who started with Byrne who have always thought marrying Vision was proof Wanda was insane, because they only know his version of them. Somehow, Byrne also seemed to think making Vision emotionless was restoring him to how he was originally.
+
+>>136739895
+That's a very good question, it doesn't make sense for it to fit before King's book, even if Waid probably thought he was setting it up.
+
+>>136739911
+Sad but true. Even the MCU continued the suffering.
+--- 136740867
+>>136731601
+>his Third Summers Brother idea with the Adam X reveal
+Didn't that get re-tooled into X-Men Legends 2021. Also did Nicieza say it was in continuity when it released
+--- 136740894
+>>136740867
+--- 136740930
+>>136740894
+Pretty sure its a nothingburger because Adam X gets his memories wiped at the end of the arc
+--- 136741135
+>>136739975
+In various Marvel books in the mid 80s, villains are being killed by a mystery assassin, usually disguised as a civilian, and readers know it's all the same guy because he always shouts
+>JUSTICE IS SERVED!
+
+The story comes to a head in Mark Gruenwald's Captain America run, the same story introduces the supervillain bar, The Bar With No Name, as a large number of villains gather there to react to the threat, the barman is revealed to be the Scourge, who kills them all.
+
+Captain America then battles the Scourge, defeats him, and he reveals he was the brother of an old Ghost Rider villain, the Enforcer, and he became the Scourge because of the shame the Enforcer brought on their family. But then he's shot by someone in the shadows, who yells
+>JUSTICE IS SERVED
+
+Later stories kept introducing and killing new Scourges, some of them are again killed by another Scourge upon their failure. What at first seemed to be one person, a serial killer preying on the supervillain community actually turns out to be an organization, and the Red Skull is either running and funding them, or running his own version of the Scourges for reasons.
+
+The US Agent mini finally revealed the origins of the Scourges as an organization, that they were founded by The Angel, a retired 1940s hero as a way of dealing with the supervillain problem. That mini had one of the Scourges claim to be US Agent's thought-dead brother, but it was never confirmed if it was true, and the mini didn't address the Red Skull's connection to the Scourges, a Handbook would later explain that the Skull subverted some of the Angel's agents to work for him.
+
+Various other characters have used the name Scourge since, but they're not connected to the same group.
+--- 136741235
+>>136741135
+I was pissed with D-Man ended up a new Scourge for no reason then "died". I think Post-Incursion from Secret Wars just randomly brought him back
+--- 136741555
+>>136740867
+It's canon but there is the cavet that Alex/Scott had their minds wiped and only their dad and Adam X know the truth. 
+
+Also, the story was a clusterfuck of continuity fail as Fabian references the 1996 Genis Captain Marvel series explicitly as taking place before the X-Men Legends story, but the X-Men Legends story itself is said to take place right before Legion Quest/AOA (due to Havok not being available for usage if it was when the Captain Marvel series actually takes place after AOA).
+--- 136741613
+>>136741555
+Also, because of the Vulcan story, the original origin Nicieza had intended for Adam X couldn't work anymore (and him being a rape baby probably wouldn't have flown in the 2020s), his new origin is that he was grown from DNA samples of D'Ken and Cyclops' mom.
+--- 136741645
+>>136739975
+Gruenwald, while compiling the first Marvel Handbook, noticed all of the "lame" one-off villains and Silver/Bronze Age villains laying around unused and had the brainfart to have someone kill them off, as at the time, the Handbook was only going to cover living heroes/villains and only added two extra issues at the last minute due to sales/complaints from readers about dead characters being MIA. 
+
+The Scourge storyline started in Iron Man, where Enforcer (a costumed mob boss who appeared in Ghost Rider and Spider-Woman) was killed by a homeless woman who said "Justice Is Served". This continued over three years (1984-1986) in just about every Marvel book save for the X-Books, where a random villain would show up and get killed by a disguised killer who said "Justice Is Served". 
+
+It didn't become a big thing until Gruenwald shocked Captain America readers when he had Scourge kill popular B-List villain Death Adder, who had become part of the Serpent Squad at which point Captain America got involved, Scourge killed an entire bar filled with C/D list villains, and was unmasked as Enforcer's brother.
+--- 136741710
+>>136731420 (OP)
+resolve it within a year OR wait 20+ years to resolve it. anything else in between is garbage
+--- 136741732
+>>136734214
+what's hilarious is Vulcan was a much shittier character than Adam X was
+--- 136741776
+>>136741645
+Gruenwald had Enforcer's brother kill him because his criminal deeds was causing their father serious grief in terms of him being ashamed of having a criminal as a son. And he had Scourge using a bowler hat/domino mask wearing henchman named "Domino" who only appeared in the issue where Scourge got killed (by a mystery man who shouted "Justice Is Served" when he killed the Scourge after he confessed to Cap upon capture). 
+
+But fans pointed out a plot hole in this: one of Scourge's later kills had him running around disguised as a woman and in a female locker room, half-dressed to kill a female villain (the original Titania, who was a female wrestling villain/teammate of Songbird). Fans started writing letters wanting to know the "real" story behind the Scourge, with fans complaining that there had to be multiple Scourges, including a woman (though Gruenwald had in the death of Scourge issue, tried to cover up the plot hole by having Scourge randomly put on a realistic female mask out of the blue while talking to Domino). 
+
+Shit got more complicated when Gruenwald revealed that the Scourge was actually working for Red Skull, killing "lame villains". Which kept the Scourge around, thought it was used mainly to write Shocker as a paranoid loony toons who was terrified that the Scourge was coming to kill him.
+--- 136741896
+>>136741776
+Fans wanted answers and Gruendwald resolved them in a USAgent mini, which was fitting as a THIRD Scourge was fought by USAgent in a back-up story where he tried to kill Power Broker (his brother was an unfortunate who became deformed and inhuman looking when he let the Power Broker give him super strength) but was killed by another mystery gunman that shouted "Justice Is Served"); indicating that there were TWO Scourge organizations. 
+
+The USAgent mini revealed that the original Scourge was funded by the Golden Age Angel, who went bloodthirsty when an innocent civilian died from a stray gunshot during a super villain fight he had..... Except that a previous story had shown that Angel was homeless and being targeted by a former villain and had to be rescued by Cloak and Dagger. Also, the mini-revealing that one of the henchmen of Angel was claiming to be USAgent's dead brother, which was never confirmed to be a lie. 
+
+It got so confusing that Marvel had to pull a robot Magneto and "fix" shit in the 00s era Handbooks, revealing that Red Skull's Scourge had poached several Scourge killers from Angel and was trying to use Angels' killing spree to cover up his own hit list activities.
+--- 136741902
+>>136741710
+>OR wait 20+ years to resolve it
+Still waiting for the fix for OMD/BND
+--- 136741945
+>>136741732
+Let's not get crazy now, he's still the best Summers brother.
+--- 136741968
+>>136741732
+Vulcan was a necessary evil as Chris Claremont, around the same time as Deadly Genesis, wrote X-Men The End and canonized a fan theory Wizard was aggressively pushing for ages, that Gambit was the third Summers brother.... sort of as Sinister basically cloned Scott and spliced into Gambit some of his own DNA as a nod to Claremont's plan for Gambit to be Sinister too.
+--- 136742019
+>>136741968
+>wrote X-Men The End
+how the fuck did he get 3 volumes out of that premise?!
+--- 136742100
+>>136741732
+Look man I hate summershit as much as the next guy but c'mon. Vulcan sucks too don't get me wrong but at least we got some fun spacewar shenanigans out of him.
+--- 136742171
+>>136739950
+Either you developed a thing for redheads, or it's just your tastes and wants changing as you get older. Once you're no longer a teen the younger girls will seem too young for you, and the women that dress and are drawn overtly sluttier just aren't wife material. Before Marvel set out to ruin most of them, heroines like Jean were written and drawn as the kind of women that readers would yearn to settle down with and start a family.
+--- 136742698
+>>136731420 (OP)
+More than a year is definitely too much. Didn't the Twelve thing take even a lot longer?
+--- 136742818
+>>136742698
+The twelve is first mentioned in 97 and pays off in 2000 which as you can see from this topic is pretty tame, especially by X-men standards
+--- 136742832
+>>136739939
+Based kitty ;_;
+--- 136742917
+>>136742698
+The Twelve was another X-book plot that got forgotten for years as books changed writers, but readers were obsessed with it. It was first introduced in an 80s X-Factor story by Louise Simonson, as the Master Mold sets out to kill the twelve mutants destined to be leaders of factions in the future. It continued into an 80s Power Pack issue where Master Mold appeared, but it didn't get referenced again until 1991, in the final story X-Factor story arc with the original team. IIRC this was the first time The Twelve were said to be destined to defeat Apocalypse. After that it didn't really get followed up on until the Flashback Month in 1997, where Scott Lobdell's X-Men was starting to build towards an Apocalypse story that would finally explain The Twelve. Lobdell was fired later the same year, and Joe Casey picked up the Apocalypse story as a slow-burning plot in his Cable run over 1998 to 1999, only for Marvel to turn it into an event. It turned out that the Twelve was a false prophecy started by Apocalypse himself to gather together twelve mutants that would power a machine to elevate him to godhood.
+--- 136742936
+>>136741732
+Well he IS a 2000s retcon character, no surprise there.
+--- 136742976
+>>136742818
+>>136742917
+Over ten years, even more than I expected.
+--- 136744202
+>>136742019
+It was a vanity project given to him (allowing him to create a non-canon "ending" to the X-Men) after he got kicked off of the main X-Books right around the time Civil War happened. 
+
+>>136742917
+Simonson finally got to do a watered down small sized version of her version of "The Twelve" in X-Factor Forever. 
+
+The Twelve were going to be twelve mutants who had produced kids or could have kids. Simonson was going to reveal that a good chunk of mutantkind was sterile/can't produce kids and it would tie into the Celestials coming back to Earth for the Fifth Host (as Weezie was going to address the elephant in the room as to why the Celestials didn't mention mutants when they judged Earth during the Fourth Host storyline in Thor). 
+
+Apocalypse, fresh off of Mutant Wars and Shadow King becoming the king of the evil mutants, would join up with X-Factor to stop the Celestials as they come to pass judgement on whether or not Earth should be destroyed because of mutantkind being a dead end species. 
+
+It would eventually all come down to Nathan Christopher Summers and Simonson half-assedly salvaging Maddie Pryor (as Weezie wrote the issues of Inferno that made Maddie come off as super evil-evil and got hate mail over it). If Maddie was a fake person/clone, then Nathan's not a proper mutant child and Celestials will destroy the Earth to rid the universe of mutantkind. If Maddie WAS a real person and a mutant in her own right, then Nathan's proof that mutants can have kids and mutants aren't a dead end species. 
+
+The story would have also revealed Mr Sinister was the man behind Genosha's mutant slavery science and retcon him as having ancestors who lived in Atlantis before it sank and were among the few people who survived it being sunk by the Celestials. And that the Celestials, as part of the storyline, would wipe out Genosha (since none of the Genoshan mutants could have kids).

co/136731665.txt

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+-----
+--- 136731665
+>Dreams are just alternate universes
+>There’s a universe where you went back to high school at 34
+>There’s a universe where you’re naked
+>There’s a universe where she loves you
+
+>There’s a universe where you’re being chased by something you can’t see
+>There’s a universe where your teeth are gone
+>There’s a universe where you can tell something is wrong but you still can’t control your actions and continue doing things you know will lead to your own death
+>There’s a universe where you’re falling
+--- 136731697
+>>136731665 (OP)
+There's a universe where capeshit is good
+There's a universe where this site is not trash.
+--- 136732608
+But I can lucid dream. Am I some sort of wizard?
+--- 136733513
+Had a dream the other day that I invited one of my coworkers over, but I never do that.
+--- 136734909
+>>136731665 (OP)
+i had a dream last night that I went to a 6 Flags with my wife and our not yet existent kids and the entire dream was the park being super crowded and us being unable to ride on anything for hours and hours and us both becoming increasingly pissy at each other. Feel bad for that alternate version of me lmao
+--- 136736206
+>>136731665 (OP)
+>>There’s a universe where you can tell something is wrong but you still can’t control your actions and continue doing things you know will lead to your own death
+yeah, this one
+--- 136736289
+I guess the dream shit is just leftovers from the script where nightmare was the villain huh
+--- 136736707
+>>136731665 (OP)
+I want to go to the universe where I fly
+--- 136736785
+>>136731665 (OP)
+>>There’s a universe where you’re naked
+
+Hey it's this one!!!
+--- 136737334
+>>136731665 (OP)
+>There’s a universe where your teeth are gone
+
+The nuclear war universe
+--- 136737631
+>>136736289
+
+Good catch. This really made no sense as their explanation for alternate universes. Weird they didn't go with the normal explanation of branched timelines coming from choices
+--- 136739400
+>>136731665 (OP)
+if there's an infinite amount of universes, then everything is possible, even sausage fingers
+--- 136739433
+>>136732608
+Depends, did you have to study and train for it? Then yes. If it never took you any effort, you're more of a sorcerer.
+--- 136739598
+>>136739433
+You're a nigger.
+--- 136740205
+>>136731665 (OP)
+This sounds like some shit Chris-chan would say. Next you're gonna tell me there's a universe out there full of cartoon characters that's merging with our reality or some shit. GG
+--- 136741151
+>>136731665 (OP)
+My dreams are always a mishmash of random shit, like toys are coming to life and I have angel wings and can fly around and a suburban neighborhood is full of farm animals in peoples backyards
+--- 136743093
+>>136731665 (OP)
+What's happening in the universe where you have sex with your mom?
+--- 136743121
+>>136737631
+I mean it can still work in reverse, alternate universes are branched timelines coming from choices but when you dream you see some of those choice-caused alternate universes
+--- 136744490
+>>136739598
+Why?

co/136731715.txt

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+-----
+--- 136731735
+>>136731715 (OP)
+No.
+--- 136731740
+>>136731715 (OP)
+Lol no
+--- 136731762
+To be fair no one knows how Ghost Rider powers work
+--- 136731783
+The most cosistent Power Scaling you get is Squirrel Girl
+--- 136731832
+>>136731762
+not even he knows
+--- 136731853
+>>136731783
+Do you remember when she was popular?
+--- 136731859
+>>136731715 (OP)
+It never did. Anyone can defeat anyone in capeshit if the writer wills it. Mandrakk, the rogue Monitor that was a multiversal threat and fought and overpowered the Superman Thought Robot lost to literal who magicians and got imprisoned in the Dark Multiverse.
+--- 136731863
+>>136731783
+Thanks to Slott she is no longer invicible because the guy just hate fun.
+--- 136731898
+>>136731762
+The most consistent thing about the Penance Stare is the fact that it's inconsistent. Which should be expected when some hack writer gives a character an auto-win ability or reality manipulation.
+--- 136732006
+>>136731715 (OP)
+Yes
+--- 136732153
+>>136731898
+Post more of those penance stare pages.
+--- 136732209
+>>136731715 (OP)
+>Martian Manhunter telepathy vs Penance Stare
+Who would win here
+--- 136732302
+>>136731898
+I hate the "lol i don't feel sorry" bullshit the most
+
+>>136732153
+Ask and recieve
+--- 136732369
+>>136731863
+What happened?
+--- 136732437
+>>136731715 (OP)
+I don't get how people can read so many cape comics with
+>teams
+>team-ups
+>modern superfamilies
+>events
+>terrible art
+>known bad writers 
+>known bad characters
+These practically never turn out good.
+--- 136732658
+>>136731715 (OP)
+This is why anime is out-selling. Most basic shit like who's stronger than who stays consistent.
+--- 136732758
+>>136731715 (OP)
+Consistency doesn't exist in comics.
+--- 136732872
+>>136732658
+Having a fight boil down to who has the bigger number takes a lot of nuance and tension out of a fight. Being clever and able to spot opportunities, to think on one's feet in the heat of the moment to apply abilities in a way that is smarter rather than harder is how I prefer fights to shake out. Comics don't do that very often either but when /a/ or /co/ does it it is a treat.
+--- 136732991
+>>136732302
+Feels like a shitty super power to punish the sinful with because a lot of mass murderers are psychos that don't regret what they did
+--- 136733028
+>>136731898
+Its better for someone to tank the pain rather than the bullshit
+>I don't feel guilty
+The former shouldn't work either given that it attacks the fucking soul but the latter is just fundamentally misunderstanding the power.
+--- 136733096
+>>136732991
+It has nothing to do with guilt, it just makes you experience the same pain you inflicted upon others (or innocents). Any writers who justify someone ignoring it because "i regret nothing" don't actually know and care about ghost rider.
+That being said you can still bullshit Frank getting away with it because he's somehow never hurt a single innocent person unless they themselves cared about one of the gangbangers he clipped
+--- 136734565
+>>136732658
+Speaking of anime penance stare should be more like a sentai/magical girl finishing move instead of the first thing he does in a fight
+--- 136735133
+>>136733096
+Frank should be able to tank it, not because "he never hurt an innocent" or "he regrets nothing" but because he's fundamentally self-destructive and believes he deserves all the punishment he's inflicted on others. It should be tragic. But that interpretation of Frank probably hasn't been valid in god knows how long.
+--- 136735471
+>>136732369
+Some random generic looking alien guy Slott made up stomped her, made a comment about her not being so unbeatable and fucked off.
+--- 136735512
+>>136735471
+Could you say in wich comic? Not that any other writers will ever mention this moment anyway so it doesnt matter but still.
+--- 136735598
+>>136735512
+>Not that any other writers will ever mention this moment anyway so it doesnt matter
+
+It does not matter, Slott ruined the joke.
+--- 136735650
+>>136735512
+Slott's Fantastic Four #43
+--- 136735692
+>>136735471
+Bendis did it first during his Avenger's run.
+--- 136735900
+>>136735650
+Thank you anon 
+>>136735598
+This is honestly a nothing burger. Scott probably added this exclusively for some shitty pun. The dude in red and blue is even cut in half so its basical assured this entire fights gets undone. 
+If this is enough to ruin Squirrel Girl then there isnt a single character left in Marvel who isnt ruined except maybe Pip the Troll but I didnt read his X-Factor storys.
+--- 136736178
+Remember when Carol shrugged off the Penance stare because she was "tired" of feeling guilty? lmao
+--- 136736186
+>>136735900
+The one who got cut in half is Mister Immortal, which should give you some idea of how permanent that injury is going to be.
+--- 136736282
+EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD, ESPECIALLY OP, IS A CASUAL FAGGOT. Holy shit. This isn't even a fight, this is Johnny standing there asking Wolverine to cut out the demonic cancer infecting him!
+
+Bunch of power level obsessed causal autists, my god...
+--- 136736424
+>>136731762
+>To be fair no one knows how Ghost Rider powers work
+I do but I'm probably in the top ten of ghost rider fans.
+--- 136736475
+>>136732209
+You forget MM is weak to fire. All Ghost Rider has to do is headbutt him.
+--- 136736580
+>>136736424
+Okay how does Ghost Rider take a piss. Does he piss fire or hellfire?
+--- 136736666
+>>136731762
+IIRC, doesn't Ghost Rider's powers fluctuate as widely as The Hulk's?
+
+Like I remember during WWH, Johnny Blaze was trying his hardest to stop Hulk, but couldn't do it because he wasn't utilizing the full power of Zarathos. But then Zarathos fully came out and ceased fighting Hulk because he wasn't "guilty" or whatever, but it was established that Hulk would 100% lose against the full might of Ghost Rider with Zarathos' power behind it. I might be wrong though since it's been a while since I read that comic.
+
+>>136731898
+If I were writing Ghost Rider, I'd write that the failed Penance Stares were due to Ghost Rider using a false version of it, unknowingly and unconsciously. To use the true Penance Stare, you must have 100% conviction and willingness to use it. He used the false Penance Stare against the Punisher because he deep down he knew the true one would render him unable to ever fight again and kill more criminals who deserve it.
+
+I know it's kinda stupid, but it's fucking stupid that the Penance Stare even fails in the first goddamn place.
+--- 136736670
+>>136732872
+I mean you're right but comics have neither so it's a wash.
+--- 136736751
+>>136735471
+Good. Bitch was never funny.
+--- 136736953
+>>136731898
+>>136736666
+I'd simply go with that there is a demon or spirit who is actively fucking with Ghost Rider and the stare but the rider has no knowledge of this. 
+
+He tries to stare someone down? The spirit just blocks it shielding the eyes
+--- 136737166
+>>136735900
+Hey that's the Great Lakes Avengers. Wasn't Slott the guy who put Doreen on their team in the first place? I'm not a historian but I'm pretty sure her joining them was the second time she showed up.
+--- 136738838
+>>136736282
+>Keeping up with modern capeshit
+
+Naw there's to many old books in my backlog and life is too short
+--- 136738963
+In a setting like Invincible's, yes, for the most part. It's made very clear that guys like Mark, Thragg, and Allen are in their own tier, while everybody else occupies some space below them, with Viltrumites in general occupying the upper bracket. There are a lot of heroes from DC and Marvel that really aren't particularly powerful, but are popular, so if a scale existed, a lot of those characters are instantly eating shit.
+--- 136739142
+>>136732302
+>>136732991
+>>136733096
+To be fair, in that specific instance, Frank was accidentally "blessed" by an artifact when the Thunderbolts were raiding Stange's house for shit.
+--- 136739199
+>>136732658
+>anime
+>garbage harems
+>garbage isekais
+>garbage power of friendship
+>garbage plot armors
+Do I need to go on? Can we agree that 90 % of both comics and anime suck ass? Thank you
+--- 136741015
+>>136731859
+i thought it was bizarro fo a sec there
+--- 136741435
+>>136732991
+It's not about making them REGRET IT it's about making them feel what their victims did in a combined force. It shouldn't reflect their conscience.
+--- 136741498
+>>136732658
+Man you can say a lot about why anime and manga outsell western comics but don't even pretend like it's not just as bad if not worse when it comes to power level wankery.
+--- 136741972
+>>136734565
+I was saying the same thing in a different thread. Except I used Kamen Rider as an example. But I digress, there should be some sort of process for GR to use the penance stare, maybe get his opponent in an emotional state, or hurt or something vulnerable in which he needs to work for. GR also needs a new Rogues gallery.
+--- 136742170
+Has the classic series gotten an omnibus yet? And if not, why not?
+--- 136742174
+>>136741498
+The difference is that manga fights typically (obviously there are going to be bad examples) rely on more than just sheer power for the win. The purpose of a defined power system in a good manga is not just to measure dicks and know who is stronger, but to create context and rules and limitations that allow someone to still DEFEAT an opponent that is objectively 'stronger' than they are. Rock paper scissors logic rather than pure 'biggest number wins'. And when an exception to the rules shows up? It is spelled out, explained, and remembered for later so the logic of the system is expanded rather than violated.
+
+Cape comics problem is that nothing has any rules, and any rules that they pretend to have get written, forgotten, ignored with regularity. They is nothing to restrain bad writers, or obfuscate the hand of the author. How fast is the Flash? No one fucking knows, he's as fast or as slow as he needs to be for the scene and can fluctuate wildly in ability in a single issue. Who does the Penance Stare work on? RAW everyone, in practice only people the author wants to die. How strong is this supehero? Tough enough to survive being thrown into the sun, weak enough to be knocked unconscious from a blow to the head by someone who doesn't even have powers. Etc.
+--- 136742254
+>>136742174
+Manga will have the hero completely eat shit for the bulk of the fight and just turn around and one shit the bad guy because he thought about friendship or something. It will pull out new forms out of it's ass left and right. Manga rarely has good fights.
+--- 136742286
+>>136741972
+What if the penance stare needs the Rider to KNOW the sins of his target? He can't just drop it on anyone, he needs to coax out the information so that he can inflict the full scale of the punishment. If he tries to use it but doesn't enough enough of the targets sins to finish the job it just causes pain. Then you do a no-double-jeopardy thing where you can only invoke the penance stare on a given sin once, so he can't just spam it. A weak penance stare in a fight can still create a tactical advantage, but it undercuts your ability to go for the kill later. 
+
+And, lastly, its a magical attack. So there exist magical defenses against it. They may be rare, but they do exist. Defensive talismens and such that an opponent that knows what they are doing can use to shield themselves from it.
+
+Thats how you 'balance' something like the penance stare.
+--- 136742358
+>>136742254
+Only the lowest tier of garbage shonen does that though. It exists, but thats like reducing cape comics down to its most contrived stories and ignoring everything else.
+--- 136742401
+>>136742358
+>Only the lowest tier of garbage shonen does that though.
+Yeah and only the lowest tier garbage comics are what we're talking about, jackass. You don't get to sit there and pretend one side is better because you compare the worst of one to the best of others.
+--- 136742426
+>>136731898
+Deacon-Jason Aaron
+Carol Danvers-Jason Aaron/MCU “strongest Avenger” hype (that issue literally dropped the same week as the Captain Marvel movie
+That one Kree soldier-Jason Aaron
+>>136732302
+Deadpool healed and purified Frank via angelic means and it worked on Frank in the 90s Dan Ketch series and in a Punisher solo a few years after the Thunderbolts issue here
+--- 136742483
+>>136735133
+--- 136742719
+>>136731898
+This is literally on tier with the time the Lasso of Truth didn't work on a Nazi because he believed in NatSoc so hard that it literally WAS his Truth.
+--- 136742778
+>>136742483
+>everyone who has ever perished need-lessly because of you
+Honestly that can't be many, when it comes to Punisher, his plot armor allows him to only kill scum
+--- 136742779
+>>136739199
+>90% of both comics and anime that appeals to American teenagers suck ass?
+
+ftfy
+The entirety of American-published manga comes from magazines meant to be read by 11 year olds. Of course its all trash.
+--- 136742816
+>>136736424
+Can he die?
+--- 136742840
+>>136736666
+I thought he didn't fight Hulk at all. Just like two pages of rider showing up and judging hulk in the right.
+--- 136742855
+>>136742779
+All manga is trash period.
+--- 136742858
+>>136731898
+If I ever wrote a Ghost Rider comic I would have the penance stare not working on just a random criminal. Just to take things to their logical conclusion
+
+"Why isn't my penance stare working on you?"
+
+"Because it only works on faggots, faggot!"
+--- 136742865
+>>136742778
+Most people who don't read Punisher genuinely believe that he basically operates the same way that The Spectre does if he's unmoored from a human.
+
+>Did you do something bad?
+>GET FRANK'D
+--- 136742893
+>>136731715 (OP)
+For context, Johnny/GR was being fucked up by a demonic parasite that was inside of him and Logan was helping him cut it out.
+--- 136742929
+>>136742855
+True, but AllMight's last fight with All for One is a better Superman story than literally every Superman story since All Star, so we're in the trash heap together.
+--- 136742993
+>>136731715 (OP)
+Wolvie's got the same brand of plot armor as Captain america. So writers make him a big contributor in fights even when his power should be ineffectual.
+--- 136743238
+>>136742286
+I personally like your first idea, but it might detract too much from action and move into detective work, which could put off some people. A good writer could make something creative out of it, such as a new concept for an information network (Example, GR snooping on Churches to find out people's sins, trade market with demons, Hell give him a cult of agents). Some possible gags too, where he just "farms" info from some fuck ups who keep committing the same sins.
+I personally wouldn't make it a magical attack. Although I don't know much about Holy figures in the Marvel Universe, maybe it is magic after all.
+The talisman idea could also be interesting, but if it ends up as simply a gotcha mcguffin then I'd rather skip it.
+--- 136743378
+>>136742993
+I'm a fan of Cap, but I'll still call him out if he's punching too far above his weight class. In my opinion, he does far too much hitting and not enough thinking, which is part of why the serum is still so sought after in the first place.
+--- 136743408
+>>136732872
+Manga is better at that, too. None of the pages posted here have anything to do with nuance, it's just characters forgetting they have certain powers, powers not working, or powers being way weaker than they're supposed to be for no reason.
+--- 136743432
+>>136743408
+Manga is only good at one thing, being effeminate
+--- 136743581
+>>136743378
+It's great when writers lean into his leadership and charisma rather trying to bend reality so he can punch guys in thor class. Or give him people like kang who are major threats that can still sensibly be fought on the human level.
+--- 136743635
+>>136743432
+I can think of absolutely nothing cape comics are better at.
+--- 136743842
+>>136743581
+I agree, but I will also say that I don't mind when writers stretch the definition of "peak human" just a tad. Otherwise stuff like him fighting any number of gunmen with nothing but a shield is just silly. He definitely shouldn't be trading blows with Spider-man or whatever.
+--- 136743855
+>>136743581
+And it's even better when writers realize that being a leader is more than just barking out orders. I swear it's like every hack saw that one seen in the avengers and think being a leader means telling people how to use their powers.
+--- 136743865
+>>136742778
+Same Penance Stare different comic
+--- 136743883
+>>136743581
+I think less on charisma and encouraging leadership and more about being smart on and around the battlefield. He's every military genius rolled into one person and his go-to is hitting somebody or hitting somebody harder. He's supposed to stand out from the other Weapon projects by not just being an ass kicker, but someone that knows how to make sure an ass is kicked as effectively and efficiently as possible on a tactical and strategic level. Even if he is someone that doesn't make the gadgets, he should be the one that knows how to make the most of their effect to ensure a win. He shouldn't be treated like a disposable weapon like Wolverine to be thrown into fight.
+--- 136743963
+>>136743883
+To be fair, wolverine is only "treated as disposable" because he is LITERALLY impossible to kill outside magical bullshit or plot.
+Its like having something with a permanent warranty that you're constantly breaking because "Fuck it, the company will buy me a new one!"
+--- 136744039
+>>136735900
+Do you really not recognize Mr. Immortal? The man who has evolved beyond the ability to die.
+--- 136744149
+>>136743416
+I've always loved seeing Iron Man's entry on this. It's fun to see when someone's abilities are conditional, and under what conditions they work.
+--- 136744319
+>>136743635
+Men who don't look like girls
+--- 136744321
+>>136743963
+My point was that unlike Wolverine, Captain America should still be an asset that isn't related to directly hitting something. They're both within the same tier like shown in >>136743416 as other street-levelers which is to say, they should both be pretty useless in a fight when the physical threat is overwhelming, but being able to tackle a problem in an outside-the-box manner should be within Captain America's abilities since that's one of the boons of the serum, and why his mind should be emphasized during the times when his body is found to be completely inadequate.

co/136732295.txt

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+-----
+--- 136732295
+>Disney drops their 100th anniversary 40s Collection release for all the shit they at least somewhat care about
+>No Bambi anywhere
+Is Bambi being abandoned as an IP entirely? Like it wouldn’t surprise me if they stop using it entirely given it has no park ride and the book is PD now
+--- 136732332
+>>136732295 (OP)
+>No Ichabod and Mr. Toad
+As expected.
+--- 136732366
+>>136732295 (OP)
+Do people like these little guys?
+--- 136732383
+>>136732366
+i do
+--- 136732391
+>>136732366
+they are cute i want one
+--- 136732465
+>>136732366
+They're cute and I love Fantasia but I'm surprised they choose them, I think there are more iconic characters from it. I guess there's already enough Sorcerer's Apprentice or Chernabog stuff?
+--- 136732638
+>>136732295 (OP)
+Nah
+--- 136733266
+>>136732366
+>Would
+--- 136733357
+>>136732332
+Slight chance they do Mr Toad for the 50s given the character is more associated with the ride then the film 
+Doubtful though
+--- 136734630
+>>136732366
+I love these fuckers
+--- 136736375
+>>136732295 (OP)
+Bambi has guns in it.
+--- 136736631
+>Scrooge pin on the heels of banning Bombie
+Ha. I'd buy the pin if I didn't know it'd be a dust collector. Dunno why they shafted Caballeros with a fucking "adult" headband, but at least I have their 40th anniversary mug.
+>>136736375
+So?
+--- 136736848
+>>136736375
+--- 136736896
+>>136736848
+That's not going into the shorts made in the 40s
+--- 136737210
+>>136736631
+The ears are actually a pretty big deal, Snow White's sole entry into this series is those themed ears and that's their only 30s film just to show you how big it is.
+Though if you're not female you have to hope what you like gets a pin since the backpack + ears wipe out any guys wanting something
+--- 136738340
+>>136732295 (OP)
+They had some new Bambi-themed merchandise about a month or two ago. It think it was for some Spring collection.
+>>136732332
+>>136733357
+If anything, I want them to continue doing those 'Storybook Replica' journals and add both Mr. Toad and Sleepy Hollow.
+--- 136738409
+>>136732332
+They are in Anniversary merch rotation at least. Like I got Mr. Toad and Headless Horseman ornaments a few years ago, though the horse's tail fell off when taking a shelf dive.
+--- 136738465
+>>136732465
+>>136732465
+Yeah, past those two, Pastoral and Dance of the Hours are what they always go to for Fantasia merch. I'd love some Rite of Spring dinosaur figures, but I guess those designs have been deemed too generic to really market.
+--- 136738468
+>>136732295 (OP)
+100 decades is 1000 years
+--- 136738513
+>>136732295 (OP)
+I saw some "Disney Bunnies" coloring book type stuff that's all focused on Thumper and his family this Easter season.
+--- 136738518
+>1950s Collection is next
+If we get any more Peter Pan merch, I hope it's like pic-related.
+--- 136738527
+>>136732366
+No, I like Burrito.
+--- 136738610
+>>136738527
+Fuck the de-soulification of Coronado Springs's common areas a few years ago. Burrito had his own display in the Caballeros themed gift shop until they sucked out all the color.
+--- 136738640
+>>136732295 (OP)
+>three caballeros ears
+im satisfied
+--- 136738657
+>>136738468
+>it is
+Boy I hope someone got fired for that blunder.
+--- 136739569
+For those interested here the other stuff they did
+They also had an entire Oswald collection instead of putting him in the 1920s
+--- 136739595
+1930s
+--- 136739649
+>>136739569
+>>136739595
+I don't really like Disney stuff but I'll admit these are kinda soulful.
+--- 136739788
+Some teases at future decades
+>The 2000s was so bad they are actually going to give a space to Bolt
+--- 136739802
+>>136739788
+Robinsons bros...
+--- 136739806
+>>136736896
+Fact! Donald Duck has carried an m1 Garand
+--- 136739855
+>>136738468
+They're saying that their Reich - uh, I mean their brand - will last a thousand years.
+--- 136739990
+>>136739595
+>No dwarfs 
+Lmao
+--- 136740083
+>>136739788
+Using the Muppets as their 70s merch feels like cheating, that would be like using Spider-Man on their 60s merch
+--- 136740091
+>>136739806
+He's killed over 50 slant eyes
+Donald "Jap Stacker" Duck
+Donald "Kamikaze Killer" Duck
+Donald "Tojo K.O." Duck
+--- 136740172
+>>136739855
+Ein Marke!
+Ein Firma!
+Ein Disney!
+--- 136740235
+>>136740083
+Muppets are the only one of Disney's acquired franchises that has no real administrative apparatus watching over it and its just kinda lumped under generic Disney branding in merchandising.
+Like it's just kinda been hot potatoing between different divisions of the company and the Muppets are considered a part of Walt Disney Imagineering's Live Entertainment division now.
+--- 136740278
+>>136732295 (OP)
+What kind of accessory is the duck thing suppose to be, locket?
+--- 136740366
+>>136739595
+That Horace magicband is really clean. Too bad I'm a poorfag.
+>>136739788
+>No Atlantis or Treasure Planet
+>Right when they're resurging with modern audiences
+I mean, maybe I'm just projecting too much of my terminally online microcosm onto the GP but I think they're missing a big opportunity here.
+--- 136740376
+>>136740235
+Not to mention it’s what henson wanted, well it didn’t end up exactly the way HE envisioned it( if I’m not mistaken his vision was that Kermit and Mickey would be seen as equals) but hey at least they’re still very much around. Also when’s that electric mayhem show coming out?
+--- 136740401
+>>136740278
+It's a pin
+--- 136740405
+>>136732295 (OP)
+We should boycott the evil and corrupt company of today called Disney! If necessary, burn that company to the ground! Boycott Disney! Boycott!
+--- 136740439
+>>136738640
+>Three Caballeros from Nu-Ducktales
+>Nu-Ducktales
+--- 136740470
+>>136739802
+Robinson's were licensed, and not popular enough to really worry about renewing it to make more merch.
+--- 136740605
+>>136738468
+came here for this
+--- 136740632
+>>136740366
+There's at least 5 pieces per decade so there's still a chance
+--- 136740674
+>>136740632
+Hold out bros...
+--- 136740677
+>>136740376
+The initial buyout plan was more of a merger (sans Sesame Street, which was to go full custody to CTW) and Jim was to basically have a large creative consultant role across Disney similar to what Lasseter was given. But the Disney suits were stubborn in regards to wanting Sesame Street so bad and that was souring negotiations even before Jim died and the whole thing fell apart. Enough so that when Eisner tried again in the 2000s, he only got the Muppet Show characters and Bear since I gotta assume the Hensons didn't want full Disney oversight.
+
+Anyways, Muppet Mayhem drops in May
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QaE-6tpWd0 [Embed]
+--- 136740697
+>>136740470
+I see way more appreciation of Robinsons online these days then fucking Bolt.
+--- 136740716
+>>136739788
+it was more about the parks then
+
+https://youtu.be/L2Wci0nEo2Q [Embed]
+--- 136740851
+>>136739788
+...it honestly begs the question why they didn't just go with a 2000s Disney Channel property like Phineas and Ferb or Kim Possible.
+--- 136740914
+>>136740401
+The hinge says otherwise.
+--- 136741068
+>>136740439
+Based
+--- 136741117
+>>136740439
+>veiled anti-America thread even though Donald is an American character
+--- 136741420
+>>136738640
+I hate how they removed Panchito's guns in Nu-Ducktales
+--- 136741474
+>>136740439
+>>136741420
+They gave him fucking phones
+--- 136741651
+>>136732295 (OP)
+https://youtu.be/RcFiatNJkfU [Embed]
+
+zendaya
+--- 136741687
+>>136740439
+>>136741474
+--- 136741852
+>>136741474
+>They gave him fucking phones
+--- 136741879
+>>136741474
+wow
+--- 136741971
+>>136741474
+>*mogs you*
+--- 136742214
+>>136741971
+Lot3c Panchito >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nu-Tales Panchito.
+--- 136742361
+>>136732366
+They're the only thing non-Sorcerer's Apprentice thing from Fantasia that wouldn't draw controversy that's also capable of being a marketable plush.
+--- 136742412
+>>136740439
+>>136741474
+>>136741687
+Closeup
+--- 136742616
+>>136739788
+What's wrong with Bolt?
+--- 136742739
+>>136740697
+Only because Robinsons came right after a conga line of shit Disney movies.
+--- 136743016
+>>136742412
+>>136741687
+>>136740439
+How many kids flat-out refuse to read the Duck Comics because of how abrasive he is about shit that's completely out of their hands?
+
+Rosa seems to cry constantly about how America is the only place where the Duck Comics aren't beloved, but he doesn't seem to put ANY effort into proselytizing a new generation into reading them. Literally all he has to do is say that they're the stories that Disney could never do justice.
+--- 136743727
+>>136743016
+I think it's more of a problem in Disney, which constantly puts out any kind of market with Donald or Scrooge and puts it under the name Ducktales, because they are not interested in originality, but in greater market demand. That's why many people when they see Scrooge or Donald's nephews, they all immediately say "Ducktales", because they see them mostly there, even though they have appeared in other animations and mostly in comics. And Disney doesn't care either.
+
+I mean, most people have no idea that Mickey has a much bigger role in the comics than in his animated portrayals. And most Americans today don't even read comics, they watch cartoons and feature films. It would be better to make animated adaptations of Disney comics, but that requires the right people who understand it. And video games for that matter. Epic Donald was supposed to be realized, but Disney canceled it for some unknown reasons.

co/136732411.txt

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+-----
+--- 136732411
+>Born and die with the TTGO brand attach to it
+--- 136733360
+>>136732411 (OP)
+I am losing it
+--- 136735636
+>>136732411 (OP)
+Yeah shit sucks. The final movie erks me even more because it's clearly a DCSHG movie but they added teen titans go in like mystery science theater 3000 to make comments about it instead of letting it be it own thing. 
+
+That and combined with the drama back stage shows that this series never stood a chance. It's great for what we got but I wish we had more.
+--- 136735925
+>>136732411 (OP)
+TTG! is the cancer of modern animation.
+--- 136736315
+>>136735636
+Not to mention the show's inconsistent and shitty schedule, Cartoon Network aired this show out of obligation.
+--- 136736368
+>>136735925
+>modern
+--- 136736400
+>>136736368
+Yes, modern. Fag
+--- 136736453
+DC Super Hero Girls Go! will be premiering later this year.
+--- 136736466
+The fate of this show makes me glad that Zaslav killed Cartoon Network Animation Studios.
+--- 136737212
+>>136736315
+In Latin America, the show was taken off the air without broadcasting the last episode and until now they have not broadcast the movie that would not make much sense without the last episode.
+--- 136739158
+>>136736315
+>>136735636
+>>136732411 (OP)
+and not mention this movie is the only thing related to DCSHG 2019 in HBOmax. they have only gen1. which is funny because at least in HBOmax LatAM, gen 2 was one of the most watched series. never understand the hate of warner for this show?
+--- 136739241
+>>136738996
+Cute
+--- 136739338
+>>136739158
+Season 2 used to be on HBO Max. 
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrNs1VLLl9U [Embed]
+--- 136739969
+>>136739338
+yeah but currently there is nothing. literally the only legally way for watch the series is the season 1 in netflix
+--- 136739977
+>>136739338
+Nope. The adverts were wrong and they were that deep into fucking with the shows distribution. Never made it on hbomax. It was on the fucking terrible CN mobile/TV app, an arbitrary stratification of ATT-Warner animation, but then they removed it. Assumedly because Netflix bought the streaming rights but that left the show with no distribution of it's second season other than piracy.
+--- 136740110
+>>136739977
+they were in HBOmax LatAm
+--- 136743761
+>>136736368
+It's still coming out with new episodes so yes

co/136732455.txt

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+-----
+--- 136732455
+I know there’s a double standard and its wrong… But lets not act like this shit isn’t hot
+--- 136732479
+>>136732455 (OP)
+Why should I act contrary to reality, as you suggest I should?
+--- 136732481
+>>136732455 (OP)
+Pedo hets are disgusting freaks.
+--- 136732506
+>>136732455 (OP)
+Self inserters have gone too far
+--- 136732529
+>>136732479
+>>136732481
+>>136732506
+Gays get out
+--- 136732570
+>>136732455 (OP)
+it's still a double standard and no matter how attractive and gentle with the child the woman is,she still deserves jail time
+--- 136732575
+>>136732455 (OP)
+And most little girls probably find adult men hot who want to be in a serious relationship with them it doesn't stop it for f****** up there mental health and make them phone to suicide.
+--- 136732594
+>tfw I got /ss/'d
+>tfw my /co/mblr sisters treat me as a god because of it
+I wish I were dead every day
+--- 136732599
+>>136732455 (OP)
+She is merely introducing him to the wonders of heterosexuality
+--- 136732617
+>>136732599
+ Child molesting and forcing kids to have sex with you it doesn't matter if it's gay or straight it's wrong and even the incarcerated criminal Community knows that.
+--- 136732632
+Ike is for dominating Stan while Kyle watches.
+--- 136732641
+>>136732575
+>there
+--- 136732669
+>>136732455 (OP)
+>But lets not act like this shit isn’t hot
+Maybe for a coombrain fempedo like you, i guess.
+--- 136732673
+>>136732641
+ When I use the word there I wasn't talking about the Molester I'm talking about the multiple juvenile victims Mental Health.The Molester is already f***** up in the worst possible way trying to do that in the first place.
+--- 136732678
+>>136732594
+God I wish I were you
+>>136732617
+Yes it does you faggot homo groomer
+--- 136732726
+>>136732678
+>Yes it does you faggot homo groomer
+ I'm not gay you don't know what the word groomer means and in some countries it may get one or both of homosexual the people executed if it's homosexual but in the Western World legally and mental health wise it's no difference if it's straight sexual or homosexual child molesting.
+--- 136732956
+>>136732632
+
+I find it funny she didn’t even go after Kyle… Must sense his faggotry
+--- 136732980
+>>136732673
+*completely missed the point
+--- 136733053
+I think people tend to use the word grooming, pedo, and coomer so loose it lose it meaning to true victims.
+
+But anyway, Butters could’ve been the 4th boy to lose his v card
+--- 136733087
+Double standards aren't always a bad thing. Human beings aren't all equal
+--- 136733102
+>>136733053
+Who were the others? I want to say one of them was what Kenny?
+--- 136733157
+>>136732594
+>mfw when I got /ss/'d
+>mfw when it didn't screw me up in any big way
+still I wouldn't recommend it
+--- 136733196
+>>136732594
+What, was she ugly or something?
+--- 136733230
+>>136732455 (OP)
+It's not because I don't need to self insert as a child. You see yourself because you've never been touched by a woman since you were a 5th grader, which I can assume is the moment your father walked out on you. Shota is, and always was for pathetic fucks who want to see tiny dicks and say "he's like me".
+--- 136733258
+>>136732956
+>jew
+>ginger
+>whinier, bitchier and more self-righteous than any woman
+you can't /ss/ Kyle because he's not a boy, he's a middle-aged karen on her period
+--- 136733277
+>>136732455 (OP)
+why would it be hot if it's some preschooler? he hasn't even gone through puberty so i can't get off vicariously to the thought of hooking up with a hot teacher
+--- 136733308
+>>136733230
+Crying and seething like an actual manbaby 24/7 online about fictional porn is the most pathetic single action in the entire world, anon.
+Legitimately, get a life if this is what makes you cry like a bitch all all day. Noone cares who or what you "self-insert" as in porn, people other than you have lives away from the computer.
+--- 136733333
+>>136732594
+>>136733157
+Sorry that happened to you, bros
+Hope one day it no longer has the hold over your life it does now.
+--- 136733529
+>>136732594
+why? details please
+>>136733157
+and why not?
+--- 136733544
+>>136732455 (OP)
+It isn't hot. Seek therapy.
+--- 136733557
+>>136733308
+Okay groomer
+--- 136733580
+>>136732455 (OP)
+Nice
+--- 136733626
+>>136733102
+
+Ike, Jimmy, Kenny (both str8 and gay), Butters (technically molested and oral by Cartman), Cartman (experimented, handjob Affleck, sucked off guy in alley)
+--- 136733670
+Butters could have gotten the best of both worlds.
+
+>>136733230
+>>136733544
+>>136733557
+
+Jeez, go touch grass. Its shitposting
+--- 136733748
+>>136733626
+Butters has been victim of a lot of molestation (uncle, trauma machine) and Cartman too and he has a lot of experience (Vietnamese hooker.. etc)
+--- 136733811
+>>136733626
+
+Oh forgot Wendy also. So couple of them already did it 
+
+(speaking from Gerald and Randy perspective, I am sure Stan and Kyle at least fooled around)
+--- 136733987
+>>136733670
+Strong Woman is adorable.
+--- 136734016
+>>136733748
+
+I forgot about him being able to take it. Wondered how he feel
+--- 136734030
+>>136734016
+>>136732455 (OP)
+>centrist anti-lib humor is just child rape
+What the fuck
+--- 136734042
+>>136732455 (OP)
+South Park was actually really smart about this episode, because they showed that the teacher was absolutely delusional and Ike was in danger by being with her. If they had done this with Stan or Cartman or Kyle, the message wouldn't have worked.
+--- 136734186
+>>136732594
+Unlike the other ilk of this site I actually realize the mental anguish that people like you suffer and despise /ss/ entirely. People like to pretend they were always sex addicts when the reality is they weren't.
+--- 136734265
+>>136734159
+ᵐᵒᵈˢˀ
+--- 136734302
+>>136734030
+>>136734159
+>>136734178
+>libertarians continue to be pedos
+--- 136734316
+>>136733258
+
+But that ass tho
+--- 136734348
+>>136732455 (OP)
+--- 136734354
+>>136732455 (OP)
+For me it isn't, but it's a fictional show with fictional characters so I don't care. The real problem when it comes to shota/loli is when retarded coomers like >>136732678 find sexy when a REAL child is raped.
+--- 136734361
+>>136734265
+>>136734302
+
+Hey its not me, the show provided it. I mean at this point what adult show doesn’t do raunchy fucked up jokes about children doing sexual shit? Hell even Camp Camp had it
+--- 136734389
+>>136732594
+sorry that happened anon, no one deserves to be raped. I hope you find the mental help you need in the future.
+--- 136734500
+>>136734159
+>>136734178
+>>136734394
+>>136734433
+No wonder why SP has a huge fujo fanbase. The boys keep lewd themselves all the time.
+--- 136734734
+>>136732956
+Ike looks like he's about to set off on an adventure in Onett.
+--- 136734765
+>>136732455 (OP)
+Why they keep using Ike as ss bait?
+--- 136734842
+>>136734433
+
+> Token not packing
+
+White lies
+--- 136734887
+>>136734394
+--- 136734936
+>>136732594
+I'm very sorry to hear that, anon, but would you please recount your traumatic experience in a convenient greentext format and in explicit, graphic detail so that I can masturbate to it later?
+--- 136734989
+>>136733157
+I always assumed most people who didn't get SSd just like it in a taboo fantasy sense.
+Like, nobody actually wishes some older woman raped them, not if they actually grasp the concept of rape and the effects it can have on you.
+Though that level of understanding on any subject might be a bit much for the average 4chan user...
+--- 136735052
+>>136734989
+Psychologically I think it's just the context of having grown up with experiences where anons received attention or affection (most of it platonic and benign) from older women and responding to it innocently, and reflecting back with the idea of "man, if I wasn't a dumb kid I could have totally tapped that".
+
+Just wistful masturbatory fantasies.
+--- 136735058
+>>136734316
+--- 136735205
+>same as before
+>molested anons bitching 
+>incel anons jacking thier sad dicks off again
+Also why the fuck are so many you asshole been molested? Is this why /co/ is as gay as /lgbt/? I'm told they have a high victim rate as well.
+--- 136735278
+>>136733626
+
+Do Scott giving a man a lapdance count?
+--- 136735293
+>>136735278
+--- 136735487
+>>136732455 (OP)
+
+Stan surely shouldve been
+--- 136735490
+so is this a south park thread, a general /ss/ thread, or a gay shota thread or what?
+--- 136735625
+>>136735490
+
+Just a discussion with lewd
+--- 136735652
+>>136733053
+>>136732956
+
+> stupid boys
+--- 136735806
+imagine
+--- 136735903
+>>136735490
+Every South Park thread is a fujoSTACY thread
+--- 136736084
+>>136735903
+--- 136736135
+>>136732594
+fake and gay
+--- 136736222
+>>136736084
+--- 136736247
+>>136736222
+--- 136736248
+>>136734989
+Depends on how old I'd be in the scenario and whether it would be rape-rape or just statutory. I'd love to have had consensual sex with a woman in her 20's when I was 15.
+--- 136736293
+>>136735487
+Imagine sucking his toes
+--- 136736352
+>>136735487
+>>136735625
+>>136735652
+>>136735663
+
+Jesus the details change throughout the series when it comes to their bodies
+--- 136736668
+>>136735625
+I want to see Wendy's bare butt.
+--- 136736695
+Why is this board infested with shota self inserters?
+--- 136736716
+>>136732678
+Kill yourself you fucking waste of skin and bones.
+--- 136736747
+>>136733670
+Ironic shitposting about being a pedophile is still pedophilia.
+--- 136736786
+>>136736695
+Because I want to gargle Stan's piss.
+--- 136736889
+>>136732594
+I had a botched circ.
+--- 136736941
+>>136732455 (OP)
+>Little to no porn
+Gay.
+--- 136736951
+>>136734016
+sir this is a blue board
+--- 136736965
+>>136732455 (OP)
+Isn't Ike an actual baby? Sounds nasty to be honest
+--- 136736974
+>>136734159
+Stop posting porn, itoddler.
+--- 136736993
+>>136736965
+He's like 3 or 4
+--- 136737003
+>>136732594
+Nice.
+--- 136737016
+>>136734936
+points for honesty
+--- 136737660
+>>136736747
+
+No it is not. Did you do the same for GoT? No? Then stfu
+--- 136737890
+>>136737660
+To be fair there were a lot of whiny faggots in /got/hotd/ threads on /tv/ who constantly complained when people talked about the cute boys.
+--- 136737912
+>>136736965
+
+He’s 5.
+--- 136737962
+>>136732594
+I paid a lady for /ss/ it was when I was 16 and it didn't fuck me up but people have heard about it and think she's a predator I feel bad for her. I did look older than I actually was
+--- 136738601
+>>136737890
+
+When it was the /ss/ with the prince and queen?
+--- 136738637
+>>136737962
+So you tricked her into having sex with a minor? At least you feel guilty about doing so.
+--- 136738713
+>>136738637
+Oh no I didn't have sex with her I just asked to feel her boobs and grind I'm still a virgin
+--- 136738806
+>>136738601
+Oh, no, I don't think many people complained about that. Unless someone said Tommen (I'm assuming you mean Tommen and Margaery) was attractive, then people got mad.
+A thing I've noticed about this website is that people like to flip their shit at even slightly gay shota stuff, but will defend straight shit to the death (especially if its a man and a little girl). It's usually a sign of /pol/tardation.
+--- 136738881
+>>136732455 (OP)
+Wonderful example of both/and thinking
+--- 136738899
+He's 2 years old.
+--- 136738926
+>>136738713
+>Didn't even actually do anything with her
+>Lady still gets labeled as a predator anyways
+Life's really not fair is it.
+--- 136738965
+>>136733333
+Quints of truth!
+--- 136739045
+>>136738926
+She's actually doing fine now and isn't like on the offender registry so that's fine at least
+--- 136739068
+>>136738926
+she still tried making advantages torwards him dumbass
+--- 136739324
+>>136732594
+She was super ugly wasn't she?
+C'mon man I was 5-6 years old and I totally would have "fucked" the blonde blue eyed 14-16 year old cutie if I even knew how sex worked or if it worked properly with my tiny 2 inch cock. Albeit I probably would have gotten bored of the kissing part and the sex part would had felt awkward without a big cock for it. There was also the problem of no rooms, it wasn't like she had her own apartment and my retard family wouldn't have asked 24/7 where the fuck I gone missing for a few hours.
+
+Maybe you're just gay. Here's what I realized at the age of 25+ compared to 5. At the age of 25+ you have retarded hormones that make you feel like you're pissing yourself, they're forced, robotic, exaggerated.
+As a tiny loli err shota aah as a kid you see shit in cartoons and copy and that friendly romance is much much more comfy and natural, it's not forced.
+
+There was also one more thing I shared with cartoons. I absolutely fucking hated girls, I hated tomboy girls, I would never date a tomboy girl it's like dating a boy, are you gay? I fucking hate overly feminine passive dumb girls. I hate them to death, I hate them like a feminist hates a skinny failure of a man.
+
+Now a woman... A WOMAN and I don't mean 30-40 giant monster motherfucker, that's disgusting. MILFs are disgusting.
+A 14-18 year old cutie that acts as your babysitter, definitely, definitely, definitely.
+I would have totally fucked Misty & May & Dawn in live action form as a 5 year old. You're just a pussy or the teen girl who fucked you was too pushy, too ugly, too creepy. You're suppose to be the one who initiates and confesses "let's copy what we saw on TV or copy what my mom and dad are doing but not in a disgusting old man way" if she's the one and pushes you in a corner then yeah your brain is fucked. The loli/shota always has to be in control of the situation or else they're fucked.
+
+And don't give me DO NOT GIVE ME BULLSHIT about "muhhh kids" if you
+--- 136739368
+>>136739324
+if you as an adult right now had a giant ass woman 3 meters tall come onto you you'd feel uneasy, scared and scarred for life if she started cornering you.
+The reason adults don't feel freaked out as much by rape is because there are no 3 meter adults that look even older, scarier, mature, more adult than themselves. It's adult on adult rape, they consider themselves equal. It's not a 3 meter tall 400 pound amazon woman giving you a rape face that you don't have a choice.
+If we had amazon "super adults" then you'd be just as scarred for life, like a lion or a bear or a gorrilla raping you.
+--- 136739410
+>>136732455 (OP)
+If you find South Park hot you need to stop masturbaiting for a lil bit
+--- 136739416
+>>136739324
+>anon posting his shota porn fantasies to jerk of in digital public.
+--- 136739459
+>>136739068
+The dude literally said he looks older than he actually was, and he paid her for it, what the hell was she supposed to do, not do her job with what looks to be an of age customer?
+--- 136739493
+>>136732529
+>you didn't get molested by a female teacher?
+>fag
+--- 136739629
+>>136734500
+Yep. To Matt and Trey homosexuality is funny. To fujos...
+--- 136739697
+>>136732594
+--- 136739721
+>>136739459
+She wasn't a hooker though she only did that with me which is the funny thing
+--- 136739751
+>>136739721
+Well shit anon, it sounds like you got off well then, got to mess around with an older lady for a bit in a harmless way.
+--- 136739980
+>>136739751
+Yeah I guess I still feel bad I feel kind of complimented that I was the only one she was willing to take money from but also guilty and disgusted in myself
+--- 136740162
+>>136739368
+>Oh no! A giant 8ft dommy mommy with bazoonkers larger than my head is going to rape me is going to rape me
+>What will I do!?
+--- 136740338
+>>136734989
+Of course it's a just a silly fantasy, we all desired boobs when we were younger but knew it was unobtainable.
+--- 136740536
+>>136732455 (OP)
+
+>lets not act like this shit isn’t hot
+
+When it's South Park? Fuck no.
+
+When it's ny-o-ph? Fuck yeah.
+--- 136741070
+>>136734361
+Wait what? I thought it was only children exposed to sexual shit (Max seeing the sex island)?
+--- 136742443
+>>136732594
+Nice.
+--- 136743619
+>>136739493
+My middle school gym teacher hit me in the nuts once and I'm a fag