{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/233","repository_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/mozilla/standards-positions","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/233/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/233/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/233/events","html_url":"https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/233","id":539042356,"node_id":"MDU6SXNzdWU1MzkwNDIzNTY=","number":233,"title":"QID Emoji","user":{"login":"hsivonen","id":478856,"node_id":"MDQ6VXNlcjQ3ODg1Ng==","avatar_url":"https://avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/478856?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/hsivonen","html_url":"https://github.com/hsivonen","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/hsivonen/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/hsivonen/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/hsivonen/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/hsivonen/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/hsivonen/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/hsivonen/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/hsivonen/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/hsivonen/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/hsivonen/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[{"id":1742483119,"node_id":"MDU6TGFiZWwxNzQyNDgzMTE5","url":"https://api.github.com/repos/mozilla/standards-positions/labels/unicode","name":"unicode","color":"1d76db","default":false,"description":"Standards at the Unicode Consortium"}],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"assignees":[],"milestone":null,"comments":12,"created_at":"2019-12-17T12:41:37Z","updated_at":"2019-12-23T22:03:39Z","closed_at":null,"author_association":"MEMBER","body":"## Request for Mozilla Position on an Emerging Web Specification\r\n\r\n* Specification Title: UTS # 51 Addendum: Unicode QID Emoji\r\n* Specification or proposal URL: https://www.unicode.org/review/pri408/pri408-tr51-QID.html (linked from https://www.unicode.org/review/pri408/ )\r\n* Caniuse.com URL (optional): \r\n* Bugzilla URL (optional): \r\n* Mozillians who can provide input (optional): @jfkthame, @makotokato, @zbraniecki, @vyv03354, @Manishearth\r\n\r\n### Other information\r\n\r\nThe proposal is a mechanism to mint emoji via Wikidata semantics in a way that bypasses the normal emoji approval process. This kind of Wikidata-identified emoji would be encoded as multicodepoint sequences introducing multi-ASCII-codepoint (surrounded by non-ASCII delimiters) syntax for one grapheme cluster within \"plain\" text.\r\n\r\nDeadline for responding to the Public Review Issue: 2020-04-20."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/comments/568592121","html_url":"https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/233#issuecomment-568592121","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/233","id":568592121,"node_id":"MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDU2ODU5MjEyMQ==","user":{"login":"Manishearth","id":1617736,"node_id":"MDQ6VXNlcjE2MTc3MzY=","avatar_url":"https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/1617736?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/Manishearth","html_url":"https://github.com/Manishearth","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Manishearth/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Manishearth/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Manishearth/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Manishearth/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Manishearth/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Manishearth/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Manishearth/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Manishearth/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Manishearth/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2019-12-23T22:03:39Z","updated_at":"2019-12-23T22:03:39Z","author_association":"MEMBER","body":"> My point was that fallback to a black flag is a larger risk of miscommunication than a hex box. The QID emoji would than, I suppose, fall back to looking like SQUARED ID which maybe has fewer connotations than a black flag, but still isn't an obvious missing glyph marker.\r\n\r\nAh, I see. The fallbacks were discussed internally (indeed, people were debating if you should be allowed to put arbitrary emoji fallbacks there so that e.g. a \"dachsund\" emoji is a QID sequence containing \"dog\" so its falls back to a dog).  It seems like people settled on the ID emoji, but I don't think that's something they're strongly tied to. We should definitely include a strong preference for a new fallbackable code point for this, I think that feedback would be taken well.\r\n\r\n\r\n> The handling of sub-national flags is not the poster child for this kind of feature that you might believe it is. slightly_smiling_face\r\n\r\nI'm not touting it as a poster child here! I was just saying that as far as implementation complexity goes, Unicode _already_ requires tag sequence support, so this doesn't add to existing complexity.\r\n\r\nThe scheme itself may have problems, of course.\r\n\r\n\r\n> political problems that do not exist at the same level for at least most other types of emoji\r\n\r\nThey do :) Things like logos (the Apple logo PUA comes to mind) can't go in Unicode, but by this scheme fonts would at least have a common sequence to use if they wanted to support the logo.\r\n\r\nOf course, it's debatable whether we _want_ fonts to have more power to go down this route.\r\n\r\n--------\r\n\r\nFWIW I don't necessarily disagree with anything here, I'm just trying to represent this proposal as well as I can since I was present for some of the discussions. I occasionally attend UTC meetings and would be happy to properly represent our position on this if we wanted. We're not voting members, but we don't have to be to be listened to. We should also submit a comment on the PRI if we want to."}}
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