{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BOINC/boinc-policy/issues/15","repository_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BOINC/boinc-policy","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BOINC/boinc-policy/issues/15/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BOINC/boinc-policy/issues/15/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BOINC/boinc-policy/issues/15/events","html_url":"https://github.com/BOINC/boinc-policy/pull/15","id":337641815,"node_id":"MDExOlB1bGxSZXF1ZXN0MTk4NzczNjM2","number":15,"title":"Appeal Hearing Process","user":{"login":"TheAspens","id":22824141,"node_id":"MDQ6VXNlcjIyODI0MTQx","avatar_url":"https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/22824141?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens","html_url":"https://github.com/TheAspens","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"assignees":[],"milestone":null,"comments":2,"created_at":"2018-07-02T19:52:09Z","updated_at":"2018-07-16T15:04:05Z","closed_at":null,"author_association":"MEMBER","pull_request":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BOINC/boinc-policy/pulls/15","html_url":"https://github.com/BOINC/boinc-policy/pull/15","diff_url":"https://github.com/BOINC/boinc-policy/pull/15.diff","patch_url":"https://github.com/BOINC/boinc-policy/pull/15.patch"},"body":"This pull request addds a document that describes the process the PMC will utilize when reviewing an appeal.  An appeal is requested based [section 5.1.1 of the governance document ](https://github.com/BOINC/boinc-policy/blob/master/Governance_Documents/Governance.md#511-consensus-voting)"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BOINC/boinc-policy/issues/comments/405278329","html_url":"https://github.com/BOINC/boinc-policy/pull/15#issuecomment-405278329","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BOINC/boinc-policy/issues/15","id":405278329,"node_id":"MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDQwNTI3ODMyOQ==","user":{"login":"TheAspens","id":22824141,"node_id":"MDQ6VXNlcjIyODI0MTQx","avatar_url":"https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/22824141?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens","html_url":"https://github.com/TheAspens","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/TheAspens/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2018-07-16T15:04:05Z","updated_at":"2018-07-16T15:04:05Z","author_association":"MEMBER","body":"Bernd,\r\n\r\nYou've raised a good point, and the PMC has had a substantial email discussion about it.   \r\n\r\nAbstaining from a vote if you are a party to an issue is usually required when you have a financial stake or other direct personal benefit in the outcome of the vote.  For example, suppose there is a city government where one of the members of the city council is also a real estate developer. If that person wants to change the zone classification of a property that they are developing, and it requires a vote of the city council to make the change, then that person has a financial stake in the outcome.  That reasoning doesn't apply in this case.  If a member of the PMC has issued a veto (or has been vetoed) we trust that their position on the issue reflects what they believe is best for BOINC.  There is no financial stake or direct personal benefit in the outcome of the vote.  Their vote reflects their opinion of what is best for the software: it does not bring any personal or financial benefit to them.\r\n\r\nOf particular relevance is that the BOINC community is currently very small.  In this case, David Anderson is a party to the vote but one could argue the same for Bruce Allen, since Shawn Kwang works for him.  One could go on like this. For example since Christian Beer worked with Shawn Kwang on this code, it could also be argued that is he is also a party to the vote. What about me?  I reviewed, tested, and approved the code in question.  Does that mean that I also have a conflict of interest?  Erik Korpela works in the same office as David Anderson, and Rom Walton was David's employee for many years.  Are those also conflicts of interest?  In short, because the community is so small, we don’t have \"uninvolved parties\" who could review the appeal.\r\n\r\nSuppose that in spite of this reasoning, we still had such a rule.  If we were to take a very cynical view, then two people could work together to get around the rule.  A PMC member could ask a committer to issue a veto on their behalf so that they would not have to give up their vote on the appeal.  This would be an easy way to circumvent such a rule.\r\n\r\nSince we believe that we are all acting with the best interests of BOINC in mind, and since there are no financial or personal benefits here, we think that the rule as stated is a good balance between allowing everyone to have their opinion reflected while recognizing that neither of the direct parties to appeal should have undue influence on the outcome.  In particular David will be excluded from the private PMC discussion that takes place after the hearing.\r\n\r\n- Kevin, Bruce, Keith, Matt,\r\n\r\nNote:  This statement also reflects ideas contributed by Erik Korpela\r\n\r\nNote 2: The absence of other PMC members does not indicate support or opposition to the statement above, it simply reflects the fact that they did not respond to the email discussion during the three day period that it occured.\r\n"}}
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