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They should be assigned to the person who can best decide the appropriate milestone. Optionally, the issue can then be assigned to the most likely implementer.","creator":{"login":"rudygalfi","id":3888212,"node_id":"MDQ6VXNlcjM4ODgyMTI=","avatar_url":"https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/3888212?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/rudygalfi","html_url":"https://github.com/rudygalfi","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/rudygalfi/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/rudygalfi/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/rudygalfi/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/rudygalfi/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/rudygalfi/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/rudygalfi/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/rudygalfi/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/rudygalfi/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/rudygalfi/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"open_issues":187,"closed_issues":874,"state":"open","created_at":"2016-07-14T23:13:22Z","updated_at":"2018-06-05T07:11:08Z","due_on":null,"closed_at":null},"comments":21,"created_at":"2018-02-21T22:53:06Z","updated_at":"2018-06-05T07:21:09Z","closed_at":null,"author_association":"NONE","body":"Attempts to get answers to [simple and straightforward questions](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13457#issuecomment-367189418) regarding the AMP Project have been met with farcical responses so far. (\"Where is the place to have this discussion?\" [\"I don't know\"](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13457#issuecomment-367213905).)\r\n\r\nI'd like to restate the questions here in the forum AMP Project [prefers and uses](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13457#issuecomment-367216660) (and not in the mothballed email list) in the hope of getting meaningful answers from people with real authority and insight into the AMP process. My questions are as follows:\r\n\r\n1. Who actually has authority over the AMP project (not just the technical implementation)? E.g., who decides to proceed with AMP Stories, and AMP Email? Who decided to take the project beyond \"Accelerated Mobile Pages\"?\r\n\r\n2. What discussions internally were had regarding AMP Email, and the implications it has for email as a fundamental part of the internet? What feedback (if any) was solicited from users, developers, and email service providers? What other options were considered?\r\n\r\n3. What discussions internally were had regarding AMP Stories? What feedback (if any) was solicited from users, developers, and other search providers? What other options were considered?\r\n\r\n4. How serious is the AMP Email initiative? AMP [\"Motivation\"](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13457) doc makes it sound like a fundamental change to email; @cramforce makes it sound like a low-risk experiment ([\"it seems like a good idea to try this\"](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13457#issuecomment-367198531)). \r\n\r\n5. @cramforce says [\"I absolutely agree that there should be a wider discussion as to whether it is a good idea in email.\"](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13457#issuecomment-367213059). What attempts have been made to start this discussion? If the discussion is important, why was this announced as \"intent to implement\"? If you're not 100% convinced this is good idea for email, why are you doing it?\r\n\r\n6. If there is a [\"well lit\"](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13457#issuecomment-367215365) process for feedback about the idea itself, what is it?\r\n\r\n7. Google's blessing of AMP implementations makes them defacto standards (and certainly not just-another-JS-framework) where you're asking us to implement tags which are in effect `<google-img>`. Why have you not set up a W3C group (or participated in [existing ones](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13457#issuecomment-365717232) as per @hallmedia's comment) to facilitate feedback and build consensus to implement the best version of this with the broadest support? I can imagine \"HTML Lite\" as a true standards initiative would have found much broader support than the suspicion and resistance now (quite rightly) being expressed by those familiar with web standards.\r\n\r\n8. There is obviously very significant concern about the AMP project in the web community and beyond. What steps will you be taking to address this criticism? Will AMP Project Lead David Besbris respond to any of these concerns or engage with the community in any way? If not, why not?\r\nExamples:\r\n- https://www.socpub.com/articles/chris-graham-why-google-amp-threat-open-web-15847\r\n- https://ethanmarcotte.com/wrote/amplified/\r\n- https://timkadlec.com/remembers/2018-02-14-the-two-faces-of-amp/\r\n- https://adactio.com/journal/13035\r\n\r\n9. If AMP succeeds in email (and on the web as it has done), what does this mean for Google's competitive interests? What does it mean for Google's control of this new format, given Google's vested interests in AMP as a response to competitors (e.g. AMP Stories)? \r\n\r\n10. Finally, why can't the AMP project exist independent of Google's corporate management?\r\n\r\nThank you."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/ampproject/amphtml/issues/comments/394607757","html_url":"https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13597#issuecomment-394607757","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13597","id":394607757,"node_id":"MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDM5NDYwNzc1Nw==","user":{"login":"ampprojectbot","id":23269078,"node_id":"MDQ6VXNlcjIzMjY5MDc4","avatar_url":"https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/23269078?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/ampprojectbot","html_url":"https://github.com/ampprojectbot","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ampprojectbot/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ampprojectbot/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ampprojectbot/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ampprojectbot/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ampprojectbot/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ampprojectbot/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ampprojectbot/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ampprojectbot/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ampprojectbot/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2018-06-05T07:21:09Z","updated_at":"2018-06-05T07:21:09Z","author_association":"COLLABORATOR","body":"This issue seems to be in  Pending Triage for awhile.  Please triage this to an appropriate milestone."}}
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