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export values and bounty have been changed\r\nfix: you were able to buy radsuit crates and sell them back for the same price but now you cant\r\nfix: NT found out that 80% of  the lasers sold were actually laser tag guns so now they have updated their detection software to not accept toy guns\r\n/:cl:\r\n\r\nwhy:\r\n- (1) some of those prices were **refund value** so should be left as they were before the cargo bounties things ((explaination for dummies: these things arent made from the station they can only be imported so if griff mc tide sends back the shuttle or HoP doesnt want guns you get back some money instead of going back to 500 money, still not 100% refund but at least not 10% refund))\r\n-  (2) minerals should keep being worth as they are worth to the station (**economy flexibility takes care of these anyways**) \r\n- (3) i dont see why nerf production items like skins and adamantite as they require more effort than fetchquesting (bounties) and require actual cooperation they dont have a full value as before bounties but still worth enough (**economy flexibility takes care of these anyways**)\r\n- (4) adapted values of sci stuff bounties to be reasonable (factors: chance of cooperability, actual price and tech cost)\r\n- (5) xeno organs should be worth more and syndi documents which as far i know they only exist in a space ruin inside a safe should give some real money\r\n- (6) lowered bounty rewards of things that were pretty much autolathe printable and increased price of unique items \r\n- (7) **economy flexibility kills any kind of mass selling after less than a stack its price drops to the ground**"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/tgstation/issues/comments/393069515","html_url":"https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/38059#issuecomment-393069515","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/tgstation/issues/38059","id":393069515,"user":{"login":"pubby","id":1446540,"avatar_url":"https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/1446540?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/pubby","html_url":"https://github.com/pubby","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pubby/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pubby/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pubby/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pubby/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pubby/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pubby/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pubby/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pubby/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pubby/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2018-05-30T08:07:09Z","updated_at":"2018-05-30T08:07:09Z","author_association":"CONTRIBUTOR","body":"I'm going to be honest mate I don't want to argue whether a randomly generated cheesie honker bounty should be worth 1200 or 1000 credits. Both of our braincells have better things to do.\r\n\r\nThe rewards of bounties are balanced by their finite and randomly generated nature, even if individual bounties are not. If you get an easy bounty that's worth a lot, congrats on your luck! If you get a tricky one worth peanuts, too bad! It's fine (and even fun) to have little imbalances here and there.\r\n\r\nGoing forward, exports should be seen as a deprecated, with the exception of mineral exports. Stop worrying about exports. They only remain in the game for a cute bit of fluff. It's not intended for people to be making money with exports besides plasma anymore. \r\n"}}
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