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The goal is to try various flags and tuning parameters in combination to get the best simulations of LBA and ARM 97.  Now that we've got Justin's benchmark simulations to compare these too, we can look at budgets for clues as to which terms are important for different discrepancies. At some point, hopefully we will have a \"best\" setup that works for both cases, that we can try with TWP_ICE and MC3E.\n\nCurrent \"state of the union\" with regards to these cases:\n(reference attachment:newbenchmark-r6708-silhs-defaultvs6and4.maff, attachment:defaultbudgets-silhsr6708.maff, attachment:budgets-silhsr6708-corr6rrp4.maff, attachment:sambudgets-newbenchmark.maff, attachment:r6708-silhs-corr6rrp4.diff)\n\nARM 97:\n   - Still too cold in the upper levels\n       - This is still largely a function of not enough latent heating above 10km. Vapor deposition is a large source of latent heating in both models, but again, doesn't occur high enough in CLUBB\n\n   - Too moist below ~2km\n       - The only real difference I can see in the budgets is that the sink of rtm in CLUBB near the surface due to turbulent advection is a bit smaller\n\n   - Not enough graupel, and what there is doesn't reach high enough.  \n       - The budgets look similar between CLUBB and SAM, but all of the terms are simply smaller in CLUBB.  We still have a bit of excess cloud water in upper levels - if we could enhance the collection of cloud water by graupel, this would likely help\n\n   - Graupel number concentration is too high\n       - The main sources of this are direct conversions from rain and snow, both of which also have too high number concentrations\n\n   - Ice and snow look reasonable, but don't reach high enough\n       - There is not enough turbulent advection of ice\n\n   - We can now get at least some rain to fall during the first convective event by changing correlations and variances, but there is still no ice at all\n       - CLUBB doesn't go deep enough in the first event\n\n\nLBA:\n\n   - We can now get rain to fall by changing correlations and variances, though we still don't have enough cloud water below 6km, or rain in the profile.\n       - We likely need to do something to help the sedimentation profile here, as it is large and noisy compared to other budget terms\n\n   - Not nearly enough graupel\n       - There is simply no formation other than right at the freezing level.  We likely need to add back in ice correlations so we can have cloud/rain/ice/snow collisions\n\n   - Too much cloud ice and snow, and too high.\n       - Hopefully if correlations are increased, it can grow and fall more effectively\n\n   - Ice, snow, number concentrations are too high.\n       - This is slightly better with changed correlations/variances, and might be improvable by changing other correlations/variances\n\nBoth cases still suffer from precipitation coming in the form of unrealistically large spikes, which deplete LWP and reduce the overall precipitation efficiency.\n\n\nThings to try (alone or in combination):\n\n   - Increase number of samples in SILHS\n   - Decrease time step\n   - Increase NSTEP in Morrison microphysics to improve sedimentation profile\n   - Use combinations of the flags l_use_ice_latent and l_plume_centered\n   - Increase correlations/variances for other species\n   - Increase c_Krrainm and/or nu_r to increase diffusion of hydrometeors\n   - Decrease c2 coefficients for variances to reduce dissipation and allow precipitation to play more of a role\n\n\n\n\n\nAttachments:\n\n[plot_explicit_ta_configs.maff](https://github.com/larson-group/trac_attachment_archive/blob/master/trac_test/822/plot_explicit_ta_configs.maff)\n[plot_new_pdf_config_1_plot_2.maff](https://github.com/larson-group/trac_attachment_archive/blob/master/trac_test/822/plot_new_pdf_config_1_plot_2.maff)\n[plot_combo_pdf_run_3.maff](https://github.com/larson-group/trac_attachment_archive/blob/master/trac_test/822/plot_combo_pdf_run_3.maff)\n[plot_input_fields_rtp3_thlp3_1.maff](https://github.com/larson-group/trac_attachment_archive/blob/master/trac_test/822/plot_input_fields_rtp3_thlp3_1.maff)\n[plot_new_pdf_20180522_test_1.maff](https://github.com/larson-group/trac_attachment_archive/blob/master/trac_test/822/plot_new_pdf_20180522_test_1.maff)\n[plot_attempts_8_10.maff](https://github.com/larson-group/trac_attachment_archive/blob/master/trac_test/822/plot_attempts_8_10.maff)\n[plot_attempt_8_only.maff](https://github.com/larson-group/trac_attachment_archive/blob/master/trac_test/822/plot_attempt_8_only.maff)\n[plot_beta_1p3.maff](https://github.com/larson-group/trac_attachment_archive/blob/master/trac_test/822/plot_beta_1p3.maff)\n[plot_beta_1p3_all.maff](https://github.com/larson-group/trac_attachment_archive/blob/master/trac_test/822/plot_beta_1p3_all.maff)\n\nMigrated from http://carson.math.uwm.edu/trac/clubb/ticket/660\n```json\n{\n    \"status\": \"closed\", \n    \"changetime\": \"2014-04-15T21:39:21\", \n    \"description\": \"This is following on from ticket:603, but I thought it best to start fresh here.  The goal is to try various flags and tuning parameters in combination to get the best simulations of LBA and ARM 97.  Now that we've got Justin's benchmark simulations to compare these too, we can look at budgets for clues as to which terms are important for different discrepancies. At some point, hopefully we will have a \\\"best\\\" setup that works for both cases, that we can try with TWP_ICE and MC3E.\\n\\nCurrent \\\"state of the union\\\" with regards to these cases:\\n(reference attachment:newbenchmark-r6708-silhs-defaultvs6and4.maff, attachment:defaultbudgets-silhsr6708.maff, attachment:budgets-silhsr6708-corr6rrp4.maff, attachment:sambudgets-newbenchmark.maff, attachment:r6708-silhs-corr6rrp4.diff)\\n\\nARM 97:\\n   - Still too cold in the upper levels\\n       - This is still largely a function of not enough latent heating above 10km. 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We likely need to add back in ice correlations so we can have cloud/rain/ice/snow collisions\\n\\n   - Too much cloud ice and snow, and too high.\\n       - Hopefully if correlations are increased, it can grow and fall more effectively\\n\\n   - Ice, snow, number concentrations are too high.\\n       - This is slightly better with changed correlations/variances, and might be improvable by changing other correlations/variances\\n\\nBoth cases still suffer from precipitation coming in the form of unrealistically large spikes, which deplete LWP and reduce the overall precipitation efficiency.\\n\\n\\nThings to try (alone or in combination):\\n\\n   - Increase number of samples in SILHS\\n   - Decrease time step\\n   - Increase NSTEP in Morrison microphysics to improve sedimentation profile\\n   - Use combinations of the flags l_use_ice_latent and l_plume_centered\\n   - Increase correlations/variances for other species\\n   - Increase c_Krrainm and/or nu_r to increase diffusion of hydrometeors\\n   - Decrease c2 coefficients for variances to reduce dissipation and allow precipitation to play more of a role\\n\\n\\n\\n\", \n    \"reporter\": \"storer@uwm.edu\", \n    \"cc\": \"vlarson@uwm.edu, storer@uwm.edu\", \n    \"resolution\": \"fixed\", \n    \"_ts\": \"1397597961237890\", \n    \"component\": \"clubb_src\", \n    \"summary\": \"\\\"Tuning\\\" of Arm_97 and LBA for best case scenario\", \n    \"priority\": \"major\", \n    \"keywords\": \"\", \n    \"time\": \"2014-01-29T00:54:02\", \n    \"milestone\": \"Improve CLUBB's representation of deep convection\", \n    \"owner\": \"storer@uwm.edu\", \n    \"type\": \"defect\"\n}\n```\n"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/StrikeNP/trac_test/issues/comments/399694974","html_url":"https://github.com/StrikeNP/trac_test/issues/660#issuecomment-399694974","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/StrikeNP/trac_test/issues/660","id":399694974,"node_id":"MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDM5OTY5NDk3NA==","user":{"login":"StrikeNP","id":2577059,"node_id":"MDQ6VXNlcjI1NzcwNTk=","avatar_url":"https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/2577059?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP","html_url":"https://github.com/StrikeNP","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2018-06-23T17:21:36Z","updated_at":"2018-06-23T17:21:36Z","author_association":"OWNER","body":"**Trac update on 2014/02/21 at 16:59**\n\n* storer@uwm.edu changed attachment from \"\" to \"fracvariations.maff\"\n* **storer@uwm.edu commented:**\n\nArm_97 and lba simulations, r6746, with c_Krrainm = 20, c2rt = 0.5, c2thl = 0.5, testing a variety of precip_frac calculations\n\n"}}
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