{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/biometricITC/cPP-biometrics/issues/137","repository_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/biometricITC/cPP-biometrics","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/biometricITC/cPP-biometrics/issues/137/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/biometricITC/cPP-biometrics/issues/137/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/biometricITC/cPP-biometrics/issues/137/events","html_url":"https://github.com/biometricITC/cPP-biometrics/issues/137","id":364370372,"node_id":"MDU6SXNzdWUzNjQzNzAzNzI=","number":137,"title":"Meeting agenda at Amsterdam","user":{"login":"n-kai","id":1845924,"node_id":"MDQ6VXNlcjE4NDU5MjQ=","avatar_url":"https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/1845924?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/n-kai","html_url":"https://github.com/n-kai","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/n-kai/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/n-kai/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/n-kai/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/n-kai/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/n-kai/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/n-kai/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/n-kai/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/n-kai/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/n-kai/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"assignees":[],"milestone":null,"comments":4,"created_at":"2018-09-27T08:56:09Z","updated_at":"2018-09-27T21:50:24Z","closed_at":null,"author_association":"COLLABORATOR","body":"We have two sessions at Amsterdam (workshop schedule can be found at https://ccusersforum.onlyoffice.com/products/files/doceditor.aspx?fileid=5862361)\r\n\r\nI want to clarify the meeting agenda for these two sessions in advance.\r\n\r\n**16:30 - 17:30 Friday 26th**\r\nI assume that we will invite the NIAP mobility TC to this session.  I would like to propose to disscuss following topics but I want to know opinions from the BS iTC members first.\r\n\r\n1) Does the NIAP need the formal cPP to refer it in the MDFPP?\r\nWe have to go through the CCRA review to make it the formal cPP that are published at the CCRA portal. I don't know how long the CCRA reivew will take but it may take several monthes. Can NIAP refer our cPP/SD before making it the formal cPP? \r\n\r\n2) Which should we develop, normal cPP or cPP module?\r\nThis question is related to 1).\r\nWe can convert the current cPP into cPP module. However, cPP or cPP module should go through the CCRA review to make it formal and publish it at the CCRA portal. But the CCRA review may take longer if we submit the cPP module to the CCRA because this is the first time for the CCRA to review the cPP module. So it may be safer to develop the normal cPP to save their review time. But I want to know opinion from NIAP.\r\n\r\n2) Are there any NIAP evaluation criteria for the cPP or cPP module\r\nCurrently ISO is working hard to update the ISO/IEC 15408 (ISO version of CC) to add evaluation methodology for exact conformacnce PP (i.e. cPP) and PP module etc. We have to consider such update to tune our cPP/cPP module. But I don't know if the NIAP has already developed thier own evaluation methodolgy for the cPP/cPP module and I want to refer such evaluation methodology if they have.\r\n \r\n3) Which biometric modality should be supported by the cPP/cPP module?\r\nCurrently only face toolbox are developped and I also plan to add iris toolbox. So someone has to develop toolboxes for other biometric modalities. I am not sure whether we can develop all toolboxes for finger, vein etc by ourselves. or we can define generic methodology to create toolboxes in our Supporing Document (SD) and ask the labs to create their own toolbox following such methodology by themselves to conduct CC evaluations. But I am not sure whether this is the best way to finalize our cPP and SD and NIAP likes it or not\r\n\r\n4) MDFPP update schedule\r\nI want to know when NIAP will revise the MDFPP so that we can align our schedule with thier one.\r\n \r\n**15:00 - 17:00 Monday 29th**\r\nWe can discuss remaining technical issues such as how ISO/IEC 19989-1 should be referred in our SD. But I want to know which issues will be discussed at this session in advance. So I suggest to ask the iTC members to raise any topics, proposal or future plan in advance of the meeting so that we can handle these topics efficiently during this session. \r\n"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/biometricITC/cPP-biometrics/issues/comments/425254480","html_url":"https://github.com/biometricITC/cPP-biometrics/issues/137#issuecomment-425254480","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/biometricITC/cPP-biometrics/issues/137","id":425254480,"node_id":"MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDQyNTI1NDQ4MA==","user":{"login":"lewyble","id":25779075,"node_id":"MDQ6VXNlcjI1Nzc5MDc1","avatar_url":"https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/25779075?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/lewyble","html_url":"https://github.com/lewyble","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lewyble/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lewyble/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lewyble/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lewyble/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lewyble/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lewyble/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lewyble/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lewyble/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lewyble/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2018-09-27T21:50:24Z","updated_at":"2018-09-27T21:50:24Z","author_association":"COLLABORATOR","body":"All,\n\n \n\nI will be at CCUF and plan on attending the Biometric iTC sessions. I will have answers to the below question prepared for the meeting. If there are any additional questions that you would NIAP’s opinion on please send them to me prior to CCUF because while I can speak to the overall plan from NIAP’s perspective, I am just technical support for NIAP and cannot speak for NIAP. So I need to discuss the responses with NIAP prior to the meeting.\n\n \n\nAlso thank you for providing document outline the changes proposed to MDF to utilize the Biometric cPP. I will take a look at it prior to CCUF. If I have questions or need clarification, I may ask to add that as an agenda item to the session, but I will let you know after I have reviewed the document.\n\n \n\nThanks,\n\n \n\nLauren\n\n \n\nFrom: n-kai <notifications@github.com> \nSent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 4:56 AM\nTo: biometricITC/cPP-biometrics <cPP-biometrics@noreply.github.com>\nCc: Subscribed <subscribed@noreply.github.com>\nSubject: [Non-DoD Source] [biometricITC/cPP-biometrics] Meeting agenda at Amsterdam (#137)\n\n \n\nWe have two sessions at Amsterdam (workshop schedule can be found at https://ccusersforum.onlyoffice.com/products/files/doceditor.aspx?fileid=5862361)\n\nI want to clarify the meeting agenda for these two sessions in advance.\n\n16:30 - 17:30 Friday 26th\nI assume that we will invite the NIAP mobility TC to this session. I would like to propose to disscuss following topics but I want to know opinions from the BS iTC members first.\n\n1.      Does the NIAP need the formal cPP to refer it in the MDFPP?\nWe have to go through the CCRA review to make it the formal cPP that are published at the CCRA portal. I don't know how long the CCRA reivew will take but it may take several monthes. Can NIAP refer our cPP/SD before making it the formal cPP?\n\n2.      Which should we develop, normal cPP or cPP module?\nThis question is related to 1).\nWe can convert the current cPP into cPP module. However, cPP or cPP module should go through the CCRA review to make it formal and publish it at the CCRA portal. But the CCRA review may take longer if we submit the cPP module to the CCRA because this is the first time for the CCRA to review the cPP module. So it may be safer to develop the normal cPP to save their review time. But I want to know opinion from NIAP.\n\n3.      Are there any NIAP evaluation criteria for the cPP or cPP module\nCurrently ISO is working hard to update the ISO/IEC 15408 (ISO version of CC) to add evaluation methodology for exact conformacnce PP (i.e. cPP) and PP module etc. We have to consider such update to tune our cPP/cPP module. But I don't know if the NIAP has already developed thier own evaluation methodolgy for the cPP/cPP module and I want to refer such evaluation methodology if they have.\n\n4.      Which biometric modality should be supported by the cPP/cPP module?\nCurrently only face toolbox are developped and I also plan to add iris toolbox. So someone has to develop toolboxes for other biometric modalities. I am not sure whether we can develop all toolboxes for finger, vein etc by ourselves. or we can define generic methodology to create toolboxes in our Supporing Document (SD) and ask the labs to create their own toolbox following such methodology by themselves to conduct CC evaluations. But I am not sure whether this is the best way to finalize our cPP and SD and NIAP likes it or not\n\n5.      MDFPP update schedule\nI want to know when NIAP will revise the MDFPP so that we can align our schedule with thier one.\n\n15:00 - 17:00 Monday 29th\nWe can discuss remaining technical issues such as how ISO/IEC 19989-1 should be referred in our SD. But I want to know which issues will be discussed at this session in advance. So I suggest to ask the iTC members to raise any topics, proposal or future plan in advance of the meeting so that we can handle these topics efficiently during this session.\n\n—\nYou are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.\nReply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <https://github.com/biometricITC/cPP-biometrics/issues/137> , or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AYlbg2Upx08F8KlTEQDugSymeABermyTks5ufJK0gaJpZM4W8Mr6> .\n\n"}}
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