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So Dave re-ran all the CLUBB standalone cases and we compared with what we found with rv = rsat w.r.t. ice.  It is posted [http://www.larson-group.com/dschanen/protected/rsat_liq_vs_rsat_ice/ here].  Setting rv = rsat w.r.t. liquid works better for Nov02 and Jun25; similar for mpace_a and mpace_b, but worse for Oct14, Nov11, and arm_97.  The Oct14 cloud looks worse perhaps because it has too much ice.  arm_97 looks worse because it's noisier.\n\nIt's possible that better results would occur if the aerosol values were changed. Therefore, Dave set the aer parameter values to the MPACE values, turned off the Arctic ice nucleation flag since this just sets IN to a constant measured value during MPACE, and re-plotgened the cases.  This is posted [http://www.larson-group.com/dschanen/protected/rsat_liq_vs_rsat_ice_mpace/ here].  Surprisingly, mpace aer values don't produce much different results than Mikhail's aer values.  This seems strange, since these two aer values produce such different results in dycoms2_rf02.\n\nUsing MPACE aer values causes RF02 to rain out in SAM and SAM_CLUBB, so we should check if this happens for CLUBB SCM.  If it doesn't, it may imply that there's a problem with the interface to SAM.\n\nThe SAM_CLUBB plots showed some relatively minor and hard-to-interpret difference between sat w.r.t. liquid and sat w.r.t. ice. In the past, SAM_CLUBB used to blow up with rv = rsat w.r.t. liquid and also with graupel divided by cf.  This time SAM_CLUBB didn't blow up when using sat w.r.t. liquid, perhaps because we have commented out the lines that divide and multiply graupel by cf. Perhaps we should comment in these lines and re-run all the benchmark SAM_CLUBB cases, output splotgen, and post to your webpage.  \n\nMigrated from http://carson.math.uwm.edu/trac/clubb/ticket/16\n```json\n{\n    \"status\": \"closed\", \n    \"changetime\": \"2009-06-19T21:10:41\", \n    \"description\": \"The Morrison scheme produces better results in Oct 14 CLUBB standalone simulation if we set rv = rsat w.r.t. liquid in the Morrison scheme.  So Dave re-ran all the CLUBB standalone cases and we compared with what we found with rv = rsat w.r.t. ice.  It is posted [http://www.larson-group.com/dschanen/protected/rsat_liq_vs_rsat_ice/ here].  Setting rv = rsat w.r.t. liquid works better for Nov02 and Jun25; similar for mpace_a and mpace_b, but worse for Oct14, Nov11, and arm_97.  The Oct14 cloud looks worse perhaps because it has too much ice.  arm_97 looks worse because it's noisier.\\n\\nIt's possible that better results would occur if the aerosol values were changed. Therefore, Dave set the aer parameter values to the MPACE values, turned off the Arctic ice nucleation flag since this just sets IN to a constant measured value during MPACE, and re-plotgened the cases.  This is posted [http://www.larson-group.com/dschanen/protected/rsat_liq_vs_rsat_ice_mpace/ here].  Surprisingly, mpace aer values don't produce much different results than Mikhail's aer values.  This seems strange, since these two aer values produce such different results in dycoms2_rf02.\\n\\nUsing MPACE aer values causes RF02 to rain out in SAM and SAM_CLUBB, so we should check if this happens for CLUBB SCM.  If it doesn't, it may imply that there's a problem with the interface to SAM.\\n\\nThe SAM_CLUBB plots showed some relatively minor and hard-to-interpret difference between sat w.r.t. liquid and sat w.r.t. ice. In the past, SAM_CLUBB used to blow up with rv = rsat w.r.t. liquid and also with graupel divided by cf.  This time SAM_CLUBB didn't blow up when using sat w.r.t. liquid, perhaps because we have commented out the lines that divide and multiply graupel by cf. Perhaps we should comment in these lines and re-run all the benchmark SAM_CLUBB cases, output splotgen, and post to your webpage.  \", \n    \"reporter\": \"vlarson@uwm.edu\", \n    \"cc\": \"\", \n    \"resolution\": \"Verified by V. Larson\", \n    \"_ts\": \"1245445841000000\", \n    \"component\": \"clubb_src\", \n    \"summary\": \"Interface Morrison micro to CLUBB standalone, and produce good results for benchmark cases\", \n    \"priority\": \"major\", \n    \"keywords\": \"\", \n    \"time\": \"2009-05-08T18:00:22\", \n    \"milestone\": \"Microphysics and CLUBB\", \n    \"owner\": \"dschanen@uwm.edu\", \n    \"type\": \"enhancement\"\n}\n```\n"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/StrikeNP/trac_test/issues/comments/394018542","html_url":"https://github.com/StrikeNP/trac_test/issues/874#issuecomment-394018542","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/StrikeNP/trac_test/issues/874","id":394018542,"node_id":"MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDM5NDAxODU0Mg==","user":{"login":"StrikeNP","id":2577059,"node_id":"MDQ6VXNlcjI1NzcwNTk=","avatar_url":"https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/2577059?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP","html_url":"https://github.com/StrikeNP","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/StrikeNP/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2018-06-01T21:49:46Z","updated_at":"2018-06-01T21:49:46Z","author_association":"OWNER","body":"Trac update at 20090611T11:34:28: vlarson@uwm.edu commented:\n\n> Dave's notes about the setup of [http://www.larson-group.com/dschanen/protected/morrison_vs_standard_setup/]:\n> \n> 1. Several of the cases (BOMEX, GCSS ARM, etc.) were never intended to \n> be run with microphysics.  I ran some of these as a sanity check (e.g. \n> if we see precip in a case with no liquid, I would suspect a bug in our \n> implementation somewhere).\n> 2. The default aerosol parameters for CLUBB-Morrison are the RF02 \n> parameters, which I didn't change for any of these.\n> 3. The RF02 DO and ND cases (K&K microphysics with no cloud water \n> sedimentation, and no microphysics or cloud water sedimentation, \n> respectively) are not running with Morrison microphysics or Rutledge and \n> Hobbs.\n> 4. The GABLS2 case is missing thlm/rtm and thlp2/rtp2 due to a plotting \n> issue.  Since there are no clouds in this case it is mostly irrelevant.\n> 5. The COAMPS implementation of Ruledge and Hobbs can have statistics \n> for number concentrations (e.g. Snow) as seen on the plots, but these \n> are simply diagnosed.  Also, our standard setup for the DYCOMS II RF02 \n> and RICO cases uses the Khairoutdinov and Kogan scheme, which will \n> prognose the rain droplet number concentration (also on the plots).\n> \n\n"}}
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