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Just not with one click for free. It's a long stun and it dismembers them. (Two EMPs will still likely kill them)\r\n* Ultra-lube and Surge fill an unnecessary role. IPCs are immune to the bad chems, why should they get good ones? You can't have your cake and eat it too."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/ParadiseSS13/Paradise/issues/comments/375374717","html_url":"https://github.com/ParadiseSS13/Paradise/pull/8784#issuecomment-375374717","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/ParadiseSS13/Paradise/issues/8784","id":375374717,"user":{"login":"FalseIncarnate","id":8988254,"avatar_url":"https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/8988254?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/FalseIncarnate","html_url":"https://github.com/FalseIncarnate","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/FalseIncarnate/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/FalseIncarnate/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/FalseIncarnate/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/FalseIncarnate/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/FalseIncarnate/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/FalseIncarnate/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/FalseIncarnate/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/FalseIncarnate/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/FalseIncarnate/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2018-03-22T16:43:02Z","updated_at":"2018-03-22T16:43:02Z","author_association":"CONTRIBUTOR","body":"Degreaser (which I made, along with the other synth reagents, so I'm more than familiar with) was made because at the time it was introduced, it was actually ADDING toxins damage (displayed as \"residue\" on analyzers) to IPCs as something they could accrue. This was since changed, and now degreaser is essentially synthetic Haloperidol with the added benefit of being able to clean lube from floors. It does absolutely nothing to toxin damage, as IPCs aren't meant to get it and any time they do it is due to a bug or oversight that should be reported and can easily be fixed by an admin as IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING. Using a removed usage of a chemical and possible bug/exploit as justification for your argument isn't gonna fly.\r\n\r\nWe can argue the EMP through walls is an issue in circles until the heat death of the universe, but the fact isn't the vulnerability to the tactic, its the tactic itself. IPCs are especially vulnerable to this simply because all their limbs are robotic, but this tactic will still mess up any other race with multiple robotic limbs/organs just as easily. My point is: if your issue is getting EMP'd through a wall at obnoxious range, nerf the EMP source (smaller range, higher cost, etc), not buff the victim's resistance to it. That's like arguing that people should be more resistant to bullets if they don't want to get shot rather than making it simply harder to shoot them in the first place. It is outright absurd to say IPCs should be more resistant to EMPs, when the entire purpose of EMPs is to ruin electronics. I could see this argument as valid if the IPC was supposed to be some sort of clockwork golem which is 100% mechanical, but IPCs are definitely electronic."}}
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