{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station/issues/15630","repository_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station/issues/15630/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station/issues/15630/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station/issues/15630/events","html_url":"https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/15630","id":134988255,"number":15630,"title":"Removes Roundstart Cloning + Increases Cloning Research Amount (WOOP WOOP)","user":{"login":"MMMiracles","id":9276171,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/9276171?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/MMMiracles","html_url":"https://github.com/MMMiracles","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/MMMiracles/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/MMMiracles/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/MMMiracles/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/MMMiracles/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/MMMiracles/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/MMMiracles/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/MMMiracles/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/MMMiracles/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/MMMiracles/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station/labels/Balance","name":"Balance","color":"fbca04"},{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station/labels/Controversial","name":"Controversial","color":"006b75"},{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station/labels/FUCK","name":"FUCK","color":"000000"},{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station/labels/Grammar%20and%20Formating","name":"Grammar and Formating","color":"9E7B8E"}],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":36,"created_at":"2016-02-19T22:10:02Z","updated_at":"2016-02-20T00:18:09Z","closed_at":null,"pull_request":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station/pulls/15630","html_url":"https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/15630","diff_url":"https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/15630.diff","patch_url":"https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/15630.patch"},"body":"PUT DOWN YOUR PITCHFORKS I HAVE DECENT REASONING FOR THIS.\r\n\r\nDeath is literally nothing more than a small inconvenience in a spaceman's life on-station. \r\n\r\n**Ways to get back into the round post-death**:\r\n- Botany Pod Cloning\r\n- Robotics (brain cubes and being borged via brain surgey)\r\n- Defib (unless you were hidden or somewhere not well-traveled you'll probably get this)\r\n- Chemistry shenanigans (theres a chemical that isn't too hard to make that can literally revive people as ugly zombies)\r\n- pAI\r\n- Drones\r\n- Xenobio (golems, sentience potions, ect)\r\n- Revenant ghost\r\n- Abductor\r\n- Holoparasites\r\n- Syndicate borgs/reinforcement ops\r\n- Wizard apprentices\r\n\r\nNot even accounting all the admin events/away mission spawns/general fuckery that can happen within a single round. Death means at worst, you'll be out of a round for another 40-50 minutes at most and will be forced to actually be a productive citizen of society (oh god).\r\n\r\n I'm making this change solely because I'm interested to see how people will change their thought process when it comes to throwing themselves at the antag if the most readily-available way back into the round isn't always guaranteed to be there. It also doesn't make any sense if apparently even central command doesn't have one (this was the exact reasoning I was given when I asked why assassination objectives counted with the corpse on the shuttle when it docked), but the station does right at round-start.\r\n\r\nThis will remove the roundstart cloning room altogether, turning the space it used to occupy into a sort of mini-lobby outside of Genetics. The research requirements for each cloning board has been bumped up by 1 (each were originally programming 3 and bio 3, now both 4).\r\n\r\n**Map Change:**\r\n![genes](https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/9276171/13190270/36e38e00-d72a-11e5-8f63-8e262f6adf28.png)\r\nMap change is currently not commited because I get the feeling this isn't going anywhere for awhile and I'd rather not deal with map conflicts.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station/issues/comments/186463571","html_url":"https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/15630#issuecomment-186463571","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/tgstation/-tg-station/issues/15630","id":186463571,"user":{"login":"PKPenguin321","id":8345184,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/8345184?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/PKPenguin321","html_url":"https://github.com/PKPenguin321","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/PKPenguin321/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/PKPenguin321/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/PKPenguin321/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/PKPenguin321/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/PKPenguin321/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/PKPenguin321/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/PKPenguin321/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/PKPenguin321/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/PKPenguin321/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2016-02-20T00:18:09Z","updated_at":"2016-02-20T00:18:09Z","body":">Defibs were a dumb thing to add to begin with IMO and make literally no sense in their current state. If the cloning removal is still highly negative I'll turn this PR into a defib removal/severe nerf\r\n\r\nIf you already believe this, I don't see why you're bothering with this PR (unless you're making a sneaky attempt to get an excuse for nerfing defibs, in which case good on you), but nerfing defibs wouldn't be hard. You could start by reverting https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/5934"}}