{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/5605","repository_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/joomla/joomla-cms","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/5605/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/5605/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/5605/events","html_url":"https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/5605","id":53310345,"number":5605,"title":"Guest access vanishes guest articles from the articlemanager for everyone except superusers","user":{"login":"onderzoekspraktijk","id":10290910,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/10290910?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/onderzoekspraktijk","html_url":"https://github.com/onderzoekspraktijk","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/onderzoekspraktijk/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/onderzoekspraktijk/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/onderzoekspraktijk/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/onderzoekspraktijk/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/onderzoekspraktijk/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/onderzoekspraktijk/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/onderzoekspraktijk/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/onderzoekspraktijk/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/onderzoekspraktijk/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/joomla/joomla-cms/labels/No%20Code%20Attached%20Yet","name":"No Code Attached Yet","color":"ededed"}],"state":"closed","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":3,"created_at":"2015-01-03T17:48:01Z","updated_at":"2016-05-07T17:02:29Z","closed_at":"2016-05-07T17:02:28Z","body":"#### Steps to reproduce the issue\r\nInside Admin select Usermanager - Options, set Guest User Group to Guest, save&close.\r\nSelect Content/Article Manager, select Categories, and create category test with access level Guest.\r\nSelect Articles and create a new article called test, with access level guest. Click on save: now you see it.\r\nClick on save&close: now you don’t see it anymore, and forever it wil be absent from the article manager lists.\r\n\r\nSo: you made an article, and after save&close you will no more see it in the articlemanger.\r\nOn the frontend meanwhile: you will see the article when it is published. However: it will disappear when you login to try and edit it!\r\n\r\n\r\n#### Expected result\r\nInside the article manager you can see all articles that you have edit and delete rights for.\r\nSo: you made an article and would like to edit or delete it: these rights you have.\r\n\r\n\r\n#### Actual result\r\nYou have edited and delete access to an article but because the article disappears from view after logging in. which you need to do to gain access to the backend of the site, you can no more edit it or delete it.\r\n\r\nThe current guest setting is to radical: it is intended on the frontend of the site but it also governs inside the admin of the website.\r\n\r\nThere is a difference between the intended behavior of an article with guest access on the frontend versus the same article on the backend.\r\nThe guest account setting inside the Options inside the Usermanager are intended for the frontend only!.They however also rule the behavior inside the admin of the website. There this behavior is not intended.\r\nSolution: to differentiate between those two 'states'.\r\n\r\n\r\n#### System information (as much as possible)\r\nStandard joomla site, 3.3.6.\r\n\r\n\r\n#### Additional comments\r\nThis seems to me a bug. On the other hand it is completely logical.\r\nWhen the backend will be more integrated inside the frontend, there are perhaps more situations where the backend-logic and the frontend logic clash.\r\n\r\nFor now the only solution is to use the superuser access: there is an overruling mechanism that is triggered by this access-level. This solution is not preferred in situations where editors are not to be given ’absolute control’ of the entire website.\r\n"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/comments/217652159","html_url":"https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/5605#issuecomment-217652159","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/5605","id":217652159,"user":{"login":"zero-24","id":2596554,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/2596554?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/zero-24","html_url":"https://github.com/zero-24","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/zero-24/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/zero-24/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/zero-24/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/zero-24/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/zero-24/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/zero-24/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/zero-24/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/zero-24/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/zero-24/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2016-05-07T17:02:29Z","updated_at":"2016-05-07T17:02:29Z","body":"Closed<hr /><sub>This comment was created with the <a href=\"https://github.com/joomla/jissues\">J!Tracker Application</a> at <a href=\"https://issues.joomla.org/tracker/joomla-cms/5605\">issues.joomla.org/joomla-cms/5605</a>.</sub>"}}