{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/TanninOne/modorganizer/issues/500","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/TanninOne/modorganizer/issues/500/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/TanninOne/modorganizer/issues/500/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/TanninOne/modorganizer/issues/500/events","html_url":"https://github.com/TanninOne/modorganizer/issues/500","id":127003982,"number":500,"title":"Fallout 4 hangs when started by MO (without f4se)","user":{"login":"ogrotten","id":8119012,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/8119012?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten","html_url":"https://github.com/ogrotten","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":5,"created_at":"2016-01-16T05:55:38Z","updated_at":"2016-01-20T03:19:29Z","closed_at":null,"body":"Is there somewhere or some way that I can force come kind of verbose mode so that I can get some kind of report?\r\n\r\nThe game will not start when initiated thru MO. It will start without MO. Selecting the game, then Run will appear to start loading the game, and at some point will hang without error message (with between 0 and 2% cpu usage and no change in memory use) until I click on the black screen at which time I get the windows default message for a hung program.\r\n\r\nThis started a few days ago with 203, and I have wound up with several versions of MO installed in several dirs in an effort to chase this down.\r\n\r\nMy original 202 worked without problem except for known and expected issues (bodyslide).\r\n\r\nI originally upgraded 202 > 203 about 2 weeks ago. I duplicated the dir and copied the contents of the 203 zip over the 202 install. It worked without problem except for known and expected (bodyslide)\r\n\r\nA few days ago I made [this post](https://github.com/TanninOne/modorganizer/issues/485) and as a result made a new install dir for straight 203. I worked past the known issues of 203. (https://github.com/TanninOne/modorganizer/issues/486, my post is down a ways)\r\n\r\nOnce I had MO working, the game wouldn't start. The only thing that had changed was the installation of mo. No other software or hardware had changed except for turning off & on my steam controller a few times. \r\n\r\nI performed many troubleshooting steps, I have redownloaded and reinstalled MO from zip, and have un/reinstalled the game. *Occasionally* the game will start, but it is very rare, 1 of 10 tries.\r\n\r\nTo be clear:\r\n* The game hangs if started thru MO.\r\n* The game runs if started thru steam or windows icon.\r\n* Regardless of mods loaded \r\n* Regardless of profile or game ini config\r\n\r\nI've just now noticed that creating new profiles tends to allow it to work for 1 or 2 starts then again not at all. I'm digging around on it for a bit. Will report any discovery."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/TanninOne/modorganizer/issues/comments/173073488","html_url":"https://github.com/TanninOne/modorganizer/issues/500#issuecomment-173073488","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/TanninOne/modorganizer/issues/500","id":173073488,"user":{"login":"ogrotten","id":8119012,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/8119012?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten","html_url":"https://github.com/ogrotten","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/ogrotten/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2016-01-20T03:19:29Z","updated_at":"2016-01-20T03:19:29Z","body":"@DeadMor0z hm that would mean that the game worked with my manual install for some other reason.\r\n\r\nWill check."}}