{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/FormalTheology/GoedelGod/issues/6","repository_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/FormalTheology/GoedelGod","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/FormalTheology/GoedelGod/issues/6/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/FormalTheology/GoedelGod/issues/6/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/FormalTheology/GoedelGod/issues/6/events","html_url":"https://github.com/FormalTheology/GoedelGod/issues/6","id":53128399,"number":6,"title":"Don't see the third alternative","user":{"login":"nydehi","id":1985302,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1985302?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi","html_url":"https://github.com/nydehi","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"closed","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":2,"created_at":"2014-12-30T16:44:07Z","updated_at":"2016-04-30T15:56:11Z","closed_at":"2014-12-30T19:11:46Z","body":"I think there is a third alternative that I don't see really anywhere. Namely, that God's existence may be rationally indeterminate. His existence is neither provable nor  demonstrably false via reason. \r\n\r\nThe fundamental thesis I am making is that a universe of meaning is empirically indistinguishable from one that is meaningless.  \r\n\r\n A God would give an absolute meaning to everything.  But We only know the meanings that  we assign. There is no empirical test for the existence of an absolute meaning.  Therefore it is indeterminate. So if we can not determine there is an absolute meaning for an object we cannot determine the existence of a God.\r\n\r\nTo say it is empirically impossible to determine whether or not the universe has meaning means God's existence cannot be shown via reason."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/FormalTheology/GoedelGod/issues/comments/215974944","html_url":"https://github.com/FormalTheology/GoedelGod/issues/6#issuecomment-215974944","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/FormalTheology/GoedelGod/issues/6","id":215974944,"user":{"login":"nydehi","id":1985302,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1985302?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi","html_url":"https://github.com/nydehi","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nydehi/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2016-04-30T15:56:11Z","updated_at":"2016-04-30T15:56:11Z","body":"Well from another angle, Kant believed that there was synthetic apriori statements.  He thought that math etc were examples.  However, given what I wrote above I would like to say that synthetic apriori statements are statements on our limits of knowledge.Specifically disjunctive statement of this or that. ie here the world has an universal absolute meaning to everything or it doesn't. ie it has only meaning assigned to it on a case by case basis that is transient. so meaning here is what is experienced or assigned the observer   We can not perform an experiement to determine which is true but see immediately one or the other is true without being able to say which. hence it is synthetic apriori.  I am still working out about the different senses of meaning. but I think this approach is better then move on to God"}}