{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/syl20bnr/spacemacs/issues/6867","repository_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/syl20bnr/spacemacs","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/syl20bnr/spacemacs/issues/6867/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/syl20bnr/spacemacs/issues/6867/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/syl20bnr/spacemacs/issues/6867/events","html_url":"https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs/issues/6867","id":172219869,"number":6867,"title":"It looks like Neotree has been configured for worse discoverability.","user":{"login":"Yxven","id":1056904,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1056904?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/Yxven","html_url":"https://github.com/Yxven","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Yxven/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Yxven/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Yxven/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Yxven/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Yxven/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Yxven/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Yxven/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Yxven/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Yxven/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/syl20bnr/spacemacs/labels/-%20Mailling%20list%20-","name":"- Mailling list -","color":"fef2c0"},{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/syl20bnr/spacemacs/labels/File%20browser","name":"File browser","color":"207de5"}],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"assignees":[],"milestone":null,"comments":6,"created_at":"2016-08-19T21:02:06Z","updated_at":"2016-08-24T19:00:54Z","closed_at":null,"body":"I'm bran new to emacs, so I had my start directory configured to the emacs installation folder which means I'd have to navigate out of that directory to open anything on emacs. I didn't know how to do that.\r\n\r\nI tried various hotkeys that would make sense to me like shift-tab, alt-up arrow (the win10 hotkey), pressing enter  and h on the \"/users/yxven/whatever\" line. Nothing worked.\r\n\r\nI pressed space to see if there was anything there. I didn't see anything related to neotree. (Apparently, I should have looked harder here. I know SPC h k would have helped now. Whatever, I'm new.)\r\n\r\nI start googling. I find out the plugin I'm dealing with is neotree. I check the neotree docs. The neotree docs mention nothing about going to to a previous directory. https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/NeoTree\r\n\r\nAlthough, the screenshot suggests this isn't a problem for the default neotree installation because the default neotree installation has a line that says \".. (up a dir)\" at the very top. It also has a \"press ? for neotree help.\" Both of these are disabled in spacemacs.\r\n\r\nIn any case, I googled around a lot more and eventually learned that I should type K. It took me around an hour to learn how to navigate to the previous directory. \r\n\r\ntldr:\r\nneo-show-updir-line should be enabled by default. Disabling it hurts discoverability for no good reason."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/syl20bnr/spacemacs/issues/comments/242173289","html_url":"https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs/issues/6867#issuecomment-242173289","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/syl20bnr/spacemacs/issues/6867","id":242173289,"user":{"login":"bmag","id":4334375,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/4334375?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/bmag","html_url":"https://github.com/bmag","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bmag/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bmag/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bmag/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bmag/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bmag/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bmag/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bmag/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bmag/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bmag/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2016-08-24T19:00:54Z","updated_at":"2016-08-24T19:00:54Z","body":"I made a PR (#6910) to use `?` for help and improved the docs a bit. I didn't add `..` because I think `?` should be enough to discover `K` and other bindings.\r\n\r\n@deb0ch I used `describe-mode` for `?` because is the only ready-made option I'm aware of. You are welcome to suggest a concrete alternative. By the way, `describe-mode` acts as a popup and shows NeoTree's docstring, so maybe you can resolve the issue by improving the docstring of `neotree-mode` upstream. As for `K` not working in insert state, due to evilification it shouldn't be possible to enter insert state in NeoTree, unless you use emacs editing style, press `C-z` (toggles emacs state) or change the state explicitly with `M-x evil-<state>-state`."}}
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