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Service-level readiness would be useful for a number of purposes. Disruption budget is related.\r\n* There's no general way to determine when operations, such as cascading deletion (#29891), scaling, or deployment, are \"done\". Deletion is a special case, but most other cases amount to observed state matching desired state (or desired state has subsequently changed again). This is related to generation and observedGeneration.\r\n* There's no general way to determine when operations, such as deployment, \"fail\". 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