{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pencil2d/pencil/issues/558","repository_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pencil2d/pencil","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pencil2d/pencil/issues/558/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pencil2d/pencil/issues/558/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pencil2d/pencil/issues/558/events","html_url":"https://github.com/pencil2d/pencil/issues/558","id":187032236,"number":558,"title":"website down again","user":{"login":"gordielachance","id":4077261,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/4077261?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/gordielachance","html_url":"https://github.com/gordielachance","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/gordielachance/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/gordielachance/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/gordielachance/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/gordielachance/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/gordielachance/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/gordielachance/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/gordielachance/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/gordielachance/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/gordielachance/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"assignees":[],"milestone":null,"comments":1,"created_at":"2016-11-03T11:16:30Z","updated_at":"2016-11-04T06:05:56Z","closed_at":null,"body":"Hi guys, I had to disable pencil2d.org again as my host said me the server charges were too high.\r\nI'm not sure if they say that every X month to try to make me upgrade my plan (which I can't afford) or if there is a real issue.\r\nAnyway, maybe we should buy another host for Pencil2D if you guys would agree that we buy one together.\r\nMy current host is about 70 € per year.\r\nOR we shut down the website and use only Github, but that can be a problem for simple visitors who aren't used to it.\r\n\r\n:/ :/ :/"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pencil2d/pencil/issues/comments/258351873","html_url":"https://github.com/pencil2d/pencil/issues/558#issuecomment-258351873","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pencil2d/pencil/issues/558","id":258351873,"user":{"login":"Jose-Moreno","id":4912907,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/4912907?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/Jose-Moreno","html_url":"https://github.com/Jose-Moreno","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Jose-Moreno/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Jose-Moreno/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Jose-Moreno/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Jose-Moreno/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Jose-Moreno/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Jose-Moreno/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Jose-Moreno/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Jose-Moreno/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Jose-Moreno/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2016-11-04T06:05:56Z","updated_at":"2016-11-04T06:05:56Z","body":"@gordielachance Hey man. It seems likely that they are now aware that Pencil2D traffic is a little intense for a regular bussiness page, so indeed this might be a stunt to get it down. However we can't neglect the fact that during previous weeks, there's been a lot of spammers bypassing the filters and messaging everyone and their mom via inbox in our forum.\r\n\r\nI honestly think we might need to change the website paradigm. We spoke a few weeks back about separating the \"user\" pager from the developer page. That is going okay so far. But to be honest the forum is looking less and less attractive with each passing day. Yes a lot of people do register, half of them are bots. And barely a handful of true users comment (or change avatars). \r\n\r\nIf anything it has been helpful to solve certain issues through mods. But most of the time help has to be escalated to developers. And if we're lucky Matt is around to help me out, like what happened last week, since there was someone who had MAC issues, but all I could do was to forward them to Nightly Builds and if that didn't work to other free software meanwhile we work on a fix.\r\n\r\nWe could use the static pencil2d.github.io website for most things, but I don't really know if the forum / hub could have a huge impact on how people interact with Pencil2D. To be honest the forum activity is rather sparse, and I'm sure even a facebook group would have more activity.\r\n\r\nI think we have several questions we need to ask ourselves:\r\n1. ¿Do we really need the forum? or can we supply that functionality with any other service? \r\n2. ¿Can we have a cost effective website with the forum?\r\n3. If we change hosting is there a guarantee that we won't have this problem again, on behalf of the hosting company? The spammers will always come and go, but if we're fighting against the hosting company itself, I'd rather look for open solutions, like Github itself. We might just need to pay the domain.\r\n\r\nI'd like others to give some input on this problem as well, if possible.\r\n"}}
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