{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/dials/dials/issues/33","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/dials/dials/issues/33/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/dials/dials/issues/33/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/dials/dials/issues/33/events","html_url":"https://github.com/dials/dials/issues/33","id":124831460,"number":33,"title":"Move scratch/ and doc/developer/ to a separate repository","user":{"login":"dagewa","id":11502083,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/11502083?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/dagewa","html_url":"https://github.com/dagewa","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dagewa/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dagewa/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dagewa/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dagewa/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dagewa/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dagewa/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dagewa/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dagewa/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dagewa/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"closed","locked":false,"assignee":{"login":"Anthchirp","id":2102431,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/2102431?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/Anthchirp","html_url":"https://github.com/Anthchirp","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Anthchirp/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Anthchirp/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Anthchirp/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Anthchirp/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Anthchirp/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Anthchirp/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Anthchirp/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Anthchirp/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Anthchirp/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"milestone":null,"comments":12,"created_at":"2016-01-04T20:25:19Z","updated_at":"2016-01-13T15:21:43Z","closed_at":"2016-01-13T15:00:33Z","body":"Developer notes and other things not required for release should not be kept in the main DIALS repository. The two directories in the title should be moved completely. In other areas there may be files that could also be moved."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/dials/dials/issues/comments/171327440","html_url":"https://github.com/dials/dials/issues/33#issuecomment-171327440","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/dials/dials/issues/33","id":171327440,"user":{"login":"nksauter","id":14790230,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/14790230?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/nksauter","html_url":"https://github.com/nksauter","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nksauter/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nksauter/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nksauter/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nksauter/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nksauter/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nksauter/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nksauter/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nksauter/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/nksauter/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2016-01-13T15:21:43Z","updated_at":"2016-01-13T15:21:43Z","body":"Graeme,\n\nNevertheless, I feel that what Markus has gone ahead and made a fundamental\nchange before we were all in agreement on this side.\n\nNick\n\nNicholas K. Sauter, Ph. D.\nComputer Staff Scientist, Molecular Biophysics and Integrated Bioimaging\nDivision\nLawrence Berkeley National Laboratory\n1 Cyclotron Rd., Bldg. 33R0345\nBerkeley, CA 94720\n(510) 486-5713\n\nOn Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 12:15 AM, Graeme Winter <notifications@github.com>\nwrote:\n\n> Hi Tara\n>\n> Sorry, just moved house and have *no* net connection at new dwelling, so\n> was pecking out on phone (#1980's)\n>\n> OK, so essentially the thought process runs like this - we have\n>\n> Fetch URL: git@github.com:dials/dials.git\n>\n> right now for everything - what we are talking about is using the main\n> dials for stuff we would want to see in a release and then making beside\n> this\n>\n> Fetch URL: git@github.com:dials/dials-scratch.git\n>\n> say which would have all of the stuff we want to share, want to work on,\n> and want in revision control, but not to send to world+dog in a ccp4 or\n> phenix release. This means we can put bigger stuff into the scratch area\n> and misc junk which a developer would find interesting but not a user.\n>\n> Kind of a goal would be that at any time phenix or ccp4 or whoever could\n> pull from the dials master for a release and we would be happy with that.\n>\n> I think what we should do here at Dials East is to fix this up so there is\n> a scratch area with everything in, then send out a small note on how to\n> pull that next to your dials and get back to everything working nicely - I\n> think that should be pretty straightforward.\n>\n> Cheerio Graeme\n>\n> @All re: git: I confess here and now I know like a total of four git\n> commands, no more. I seem to get by :o) that said I have colleagues here\n> who can do the git power user stuff like moving things around and\n> preserving the history.\n>\n>\n> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:35 PM tmmclark <notifications@github.com>\n> wrote:\n>\n> > Hi Graeme,\n> >\n> > Do you mind describing this so that we understand it at the same level as\n> > if we were to do the work here at LBL? We just want to be clear on\n> exactly\n> > where things are going to end up.\n> >\n> > Thank you,\n> > Tara\n> >\n> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Graeme Winter <notifications@github.com\n> >\n> > wrote:\n> >\n> > > Hi Tara\n> > >\n> > > Exactly this. You would be just fine.\n> > >\n> > > Best wishes Graeme\n> > >\n> > >\n> > > On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, 21:09 tmmclark <notifications@github.com> wrote:\n> > >\n> > > > Hello Graeme,\n> > > >\n> > > > I am writing to get some clarification. Does this mean that there\n> would\n> > > > exist a separate dials repository that contains the DIALS package,\n> i.e.\n> > > > __init__.py and scons etc and that the scratch would exist separately\n> > but\n> > > > maintain its dependencies on the DIALS sources, just not be included\n> in\n> > > the\n> > > > release bundle? I want to make sure that I could still commit to it\n> and\n> > > > that it would have access to the dials base packages that I am using\n> > like\n> > > > the integrator and real space grid search etc.\n> > > >\n> > > > Thank you,\n> > > > Tara\n> > > >\n> > > >\n> > > >\n> > > >\n> > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Tara Michels-Clark <\n> > > > tmichels-clark@lbl.gov\n> > > > > wrote:\n> > > >\n> > > > > Hi Graeme,\n> > > > >\n> > > > > I see the email thread but not the ticket.\n> > > > >\n> > > > > Tara\n> > > > >\n> > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Graeme Winter <\n> > > > notifications@github.com>\n> > > > > wrote:\n> > > > >\n> > > > >> Nick\n> > > > >>\n> > > > >> Sure thing. Tara are you also seeing this ticket? Understand you\n> > need\n> > > to\n> > > > >> get stuff done.\n> > > > >>\n> > > > >> Thanks Graeme\n> > > > >>\n> > > > >> > On 12 Jan 2016, at 20:26, nksauter <notifications@github.com>\n> > > wrote:\n> > > > >> >\n> > > > >> > Graeme,\n> > > > >> >\n> > > > >> > I'm delegating this issue to Tara Michels-Clark. She is about to\n> > > > embark\n> > > > >> on\n> > > > >> > committing a collection of experimental code (two-color\n> indexing)\n> > to\n> > > > the\n> > > > >> > scratch area, and we need to have something that is workable to\n> > her.\n> > > > >> >\n> > > > >> > Nick\n> > > > >> >\n> > > > >> > Nicholas K. Sauter, Ph. D.\n> > > > >> > Computer Staff Scientist, Molecular Biophysics and Integrated\n> > > > Bioimaging\n> > > > >> > Division\n> > > > >> > Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory\n> > > > >> > 1 Cyclotron Rd., Bldg. 33R0345\n> > > > >> > Berkeley, CA 94720\n> > > > >> > (510) 486-5713\n> > > > >> >\n> > > > >> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Graeme Winter <\n> > > > >> notifications@github.com>\n> > > > >> > wrote:\n> > > > >> >\n> > > > >> > > Nick\n> > > > >> > >\n> > > > >> > > Sure - We can keep a scratch area in the DIALS repo - should\n> > this\n> > > be\n> > > > >> in\n> > > > >> > > the release though? I would think not. Therefore putting it\n> > *next*\n> > > > to\n> > > > >> the\n> > > > >> > > DIALS trunk in the DIALS repo would hit the spot exactly - the\n> > aim\n> > > > of\n> > > > >> this\n> > > > >> > > ticket.\n> > > > >> > >\n> > > > >> > > Or do you think scratch code, notes and doodles should go out\n> > with\n> > > > the\n> > > > >> > > release? That’s what is under discussion.\n> > > > >> > >\n> > > > >> > > Cheers Graeme\n> > > > >> > >\n> > > > >> > > > On 12 Jan 2016, at 17:37, nksauter <\n> notifications@github.com>\n> > > > >> wrote:\n> > > > >> > > >\n> > > > >> > > > Can I remind everyone simply that it was Herbert Bernstein's\n> > > > >> request in\n> > > > >> > > > July 2012 that DIALS contain an area (now the scratch) area\n> > > where\n> > > > >> people\n> > > > >> > > > could deposit code still in a developmental form, to make\n> more\n> > > > >> > > approachable\n> > > > >> > > > than cctbx. Not sure why we would want to change things now.\n> > > > >> > > >\n> > > > >> > > > Nick\n> > > > >> > > >\n> > > > >> > > > Nicholas K. Sauter, Ph. D.\n> > > > >> > > > Computer Staff Scientist, Molecular Biophysics and\n> Integrated\n> > > > >> Bioimaging\n> > > > >> > > > Division\n> > > > >> > > > Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory\n> > > > >> > > > 1 Cyclotron Rd., Bldg. 33R0345\n> > > > >> > > > Berkeley, CA 94720\n> > > > >> > > > (510) 486-5713\n> > > > >> > > >\n> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Markus Gerstel <\n> > > > >> > > notifications@github.com>\n> > > > >> > > > wrote:\n> > > > >> > > >\n> > > > >> > > > > We could move this into a separate github repository named\n> > eg.\n> > > > >> dials/\n> > > > >> > > > > *scratch*. I could do it so that the history is preserved.\n> > > > >> > > > >\n> > > > >> > > > > —\n> > > > >> > > > > Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub\n> > > > >> > > > > <\n> > > > https://github.com/dials/dials/issues/33#issuecomment-170938049\n> > > > >> >.\n> > > > >> > > > >\n> > > > >> > > > —\n> > > > >> > > > Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub <\n> > > > >> > >\n> https://github.com/dials/dials/issues/33#issuecomment-170985639\n> > >.\n> > > > >> > >\n> > > > >> > > >\n> > > > >> > >\n> > > > >> > > —\n> > > > >> > > Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub\n> > > > >> > > <\n> > https://github.com/dials/dials/issues/33#issuecomment-171035919\n> > > >.\n> > > > >> > >\n> > > > >> > —\n> > > > >> > Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.\n> > > > >> >\n> > > > >>\n> > > > >> —\n> > > > >> Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub\n> > > > >> <https://github.com/dials/dials/issues/33#issuecomment-171045728\n> >.\n> > > > >>\n> > > > >\n> > > > >\n> > > >\n> > > > —\n> > > > Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub\n> > > > <https://github.com/dials/dials/issues/33#issuecomment-171055139>.\n> > >\n> > > >\n> > >\n> > > —\n> > > Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub\n> > > <https://github.com/dials/dials/issues/33#issuecomment-171057735>.\n> > >\n> >\n> > —\n> > Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub\n> > <https://github.com/dials/dials/issues/33#issuecomment-171099800>.\n>\n> >\n>\n> —\n> Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub\n> <https://github.com/dials/dials/issues/33#issuecomment-171212400>.\n>\n"}}