{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/issues/362","repository_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/issues/362/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/issues/362/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/issues/362/events","html_url":"https://github.com/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/issues/362","id":103594822,"number":362,"title":"[feature request] EHV power transfer lines","user":{"login":"theunkn0wn1","id":3110986,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/3110986?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1","html_url":"https://github.com/theunkn0wn1","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"closed","locked":false,"assignee":null,"assignees":[],"milestone":null,"comments":109,"created_at":"2015-08-27T21:03:29Z","updated_at":"2016-10-28T13:29:28Z","closed_at":"2016-02-16T23:49:39Z","body":"So i had noticed that HV power has an poorer power distribution range than MV, 20 chunks till 100% loss, and thought that a true long-range power transfer cable from IE with high transfer rate with a low decay rate would be well suited. in the config it noted that HV was intended for Long-range transport, yet the effective range for HV cabling is only 10->15 chunks (50->75% power loss). This limitation makes it impractical for true long-range power transportation, such as powering a quarry 50+ chunks down a railway, as the power would drop off completely well before it would reach the quarry. The railway chunks would all ready be force-loaded by Railcraft anchors for the quarry+railway to be functional to begin with, so why not have IE power cables that can bridge the gap?\r\n\r\n\r\nIRL, the higher the voltage the less power loss occurs, exponentially. \r\nThis can be modeled with `f(V)= R^2/V^2` when V = input voltage and R = cable resistance\r\nThat is why power mains irl are so high voltage, because its cheaper and more efficient.\r\n\r\nBased on how you are currently modeling power loss over distance, the power throughput (RF/connection) is not even put in consideration, you are currently using a linear power decay model. the only factors that make any difference based on what i can derive are the max cable length and the linear resistance value. \r\nYour current power model can be represented as below:\r\n`ΔP=B-max(min(B*(X/LR)))` or\r\n `ΔP=B-max(min(X/LR),B^2),0)`\r\nwhere P = output power, B is input power, X is distance, R is cable resistance (a fixed linear value),and L is max cable length (per connection)\r\n\r\nSo why is it that HV has a significantly higher power loss, twice to be exact, than MV if it is intended for long-range transport?\r\nHV travels 320 meters (20 chunks) at 100% power loss\r\nMV travels 640 meters (40 chunks) at 100% power loss\r\nThese numbers are based on default config values and experimentation to validate the functions stated above. MV can transfer power over the same distance that HV cannot transfer any.\r\n\r\nBy adding an EHV tier of power, one designed only for the long-range transport of power (20+ chunks) IE would become even more practical for big bases and big builds alike\r\n"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/issues/comments/256920237","html_url":"https://github.com/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/issues/362#issuecomment-256920237","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/issues/362","id":256920237,"user":{"login":"theunkn0wn1","id":3110986,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/3110986?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1","html_url":"https://github.com/theunkn0wn1","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/theunkn0wn1/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2016-10-28T13:29:27Z","updated_at":"2016-10-28T13:29:27Z","body":"You can transfer up to 4x the max transfer per connector on one line. You\ncan tinker with edge config values if it bugs you that much\n\nOn Oct 28, 2016 6:25 AM, \"BluSunrize\" <notifications@github.com> wrote:\n\n> Except that there is no concepts of Voltage, Amps and Watts in RF.\n> So what you are asking for is simply \"more RF per tick\" and the answer to\n> that remains no. 4k is more than enough to power any sensible base ^^\n>\n> —\n> You are receiving this because you modified the open/close state.\n> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub\n> <https://github.com/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/issues/362#issuecomment-256919333>,\n> or mute the thread\n> <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AC94SoMDMFXs9WIinK3PNyB4nFnXD8SUks5q4fe9gaJpZM4FzpFT>\n> .\n>\n"}}
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