There's a -- no, look, there's a systemic problem. Health-care costs are on the rise because the consumers are not involved in the decision-making process. Most health-care costs are covered by third parties. And therefore, the actual user of health care is not the purchaser of health care. And there's no market forces involved with health care.

Can we draw the following conclusion?
Most health-care costs are covered by third parties, though consumers want it differently
It's impossible to say