And let me say again, Detroit is rearing to go on that. We differ on the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, as I have said. We differ on whether or not pollution controls ought to be voluntary. I don't think you can -- I don't think you can get results that way.

Choose your answer: based on the paragraph above can we conclude that "Detroit is relatively new"?

Possible answers:
 (A). Yes
 (B). It's impossible to say
 (C). No
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