hi hi hello hello hi everyone so i do not know if you all received the the a agenda for this meeting do you no no i have not here it is thank you i have not so the goal for today are we have 2 goals 1st is to decide a movie for the next projection for our movie club as you know so it is for the last friday of this month of april as you probably remember the movie already projected were lawrence of arabia and apocalypse now in february and amadeus from milos forman in march so the question that is open is are we going to select a movie from the 90s and which movie so that is the 1st goal decide for a movie to be projected and 2nd goal is to discuss for an ad advertising poster for our club because we noticed that n last time not enough people came to the projection so that is it wh who wants to start to so i guess you all prepared some documents for the selection of movie yeah yes okay yep so who who has what actually maybe i have got a powerpoint presentation huh okay what do you have mirek okay i have a powerpoint presentation and it is about there are some reviews of the of the i think like 7 movies huh and i have a well just a a piece of paper with some suggestions what about you denis yeah i have also a piece of paper with my favorite movie huh okay so should we start with the 2 presentations maybe presentation yeah yeah okay a agnes we can start with you sure it is not very long in any case okay here it is yep i passed this one yeah okay so what i was thinking is basically the previous movies that we had which you have already mentioned in the agenda d lawrence of arabia apocalypse now and amadeus were fairly historical serious dramatic and also action ey movies except for maybe amadeus this month i was thinking of selecting something that is more in the present time still dramatic but slightly less serious and what i would propose is something of a thriller or mystery and i know that a lot of people find mystery is not really mysterious in the movies these days they kind of can predict what is going to happen but in the 90s there were some movies that did have surprise endings and that people came out saying okay did not see that coming so i thought we could maybe show one of those and even if people have already seen the movie a lot of the times you go back and watch the movie again and you pick up on things that you did not really notice the 1st time around or you see where the clues were and what led up to the end so that is more along the lines of what i was thinking and the 2 in particular that i would propose are next slide please the usual suspects and the 6th sense i do not know if you have seen any of them the usual suspects was directed by bryan singer and written by christopher mcquarrie it has a fairly large cast so i am not going to read all of them but the main characters are kevin spacey and gabriel byrne and it is basically about 5 criminals who get set up they are arrested they are released from prison and the get together and plan a crime and basically the story is told through the views of one of the suspects the tag line is kind of neat 5 criminals one lineup no coincidence and you get told the story as that these f characters are being controlled by one sort of uber villain and in the end you find who the uber villain was and i kind of like the the quote from rolling stone magazine the usual suspects is the freshest funniest which which one was it again the guy who was controlling i do not remember i have seen the movie twice but well they ha have you guys seen the movie no i have not seen it no i have not it is the bald guy the so i am not going to give away you want me to give away the movie no no that will spoil it okay i will tell you later but the the quote from rolling stone is fairly accurate i think it is one of the freshest funniest and scariest crime thrillers to come along since pulp fiction and the other movie is the 6th sense with the famous line i see dead people which the little boy says it was written and directed by m night shyamalan and stars bruce willis haley joel osment and toni collette and again has a neat twist that you find out right at the end yeah it is a bit more commercial that one yeah 1st one yeah the 6th sense was very commercial but so w what what is this s the 2nd image on the slide anyways is it the the poster or it is the poster for the 6th sense but unfortunately i could not find a clear big enough one has a s it has a strange format horizontal and so it is 123456 yeah yeah i th i think it is only part of a full yeah it goes th the all of the se all of the senses if you go to the next slide there is slightly more detailed things about the movies so the usual suspects is a 105 minutes long so it is a decent length of time it has an r rating so i do not remember what type of audience we had at the last shows but it may not necessarily be suitable for kids r is what in r is sort of if you are 18 and under you have to have an adult with you okay so it means restricted it is mostly for violence yeah it is restricted restricted huh it got an 87 out of 10 on the internet movie database it is the 16th in the top f 250 movies and 4th in the top movies of the 90s it won a couple of academy awards notably for best writing so that is for the script and best actor for kevin spacey but wait i i have the top 10 from the 90s no the top 50 and it is 4th yeah 4th in the top movies of the 90s 0 sorry sorry yep 16th in the top 250 i think of all time yeah yeah yeah because your table is only the 90s yeah from yeah yeah 90s yeah yeah yeah so it won lots of awards it won best film from the british british film association or the british equivalent of the academy awards it was nominated for best foreign film for the cesar so plenty of awards we we could say plenty of awards yeah but but 16th in top 250 it is what 2 all all days well i think of all time yeah of all the movies yeah yeah all time yeah so it is still good actually okay yeah but those rating are more like it is the number of votes no w w yeah it is ratings by viewers and votes and u no no actually if you look at your tables by the users i think it is a sort of well average between number of votes and and and yeah the the rating or th the marks yep and rating because there are in you table you have things that have very few votes but still are ranked quite high yep for instance number 24 which has only 4000 votes yeah like memories yeah yeah yeah and 44 as well which has 740 something votes but yeah so it is definitely just the average of the rating and okay th the number of the votes is there just for the information yep yeah so that you know how how reliable yeah maybe it is just the search is compensated a bit for the number of people i i do not know actually yes because if you have just 10 votes and yeah probably are not in the database okay okay then you yeah then yes yes yes yes sure yeah so but yeah anyway it has excellent votes okay yep yeah have not seen it but yeah no it is a good movie i i highly recommend it and i would not mind seeing it again because i do know the ending and i have not been able to watch it again to see where the hints were that were scattered across the movie cause apparently there are hints as to who it is ah now i remember 0 yeah yeah yep okay actually there is one guy who is the at the police station and they ask him to tell the story yeah and he is the one telling the story yeah yeah yeah there is him and the the guy in the burn unit yep and what is the 2nd movie the 2nd movie is the 6th sense yeah 6th senator again it is fairly short it has an easier rating it is p g 13 it is much less violent it got an 8 one out of 10 it is a 101st in the top 250 and it is 19th on your list i think if i am not mistaken yeah it is 19th got a fair number of votes too 96000 again it was nominated for a lot of different academy awards it did not win any but it got a lot of buzz and a lot of people liked it so those are my 2 selections and as you can see the plot is a boy who communicates with spirits that do not know when they are dead seeks the help of a disheartened child psychologist to figure out why he is seeing what he is seeing and what it means both movies are quite similar in some way because the last sentence is totally contradictory to the whole movie it is yeah yeah the last sentence from the movie or 0 yeah the last sentence from the movie yeah it is only right right at the end where you find out really what is going on and it makes you rethink everything that happened beforehand w yeah so those would be my 2 suggestions and y they ar they are slightly more commercial or at leas the 6th sense is than the other ones we have seen but so these guys were actually nominated so the the bottom part of your slide actually it says yeah so these are the best awards they had yeah yeah they were they were nominated for a lot of different awards they did not win okay too bad but i guess the comp i can not remember what the competition was that year but well there is just one winner so huh and they were nominated for a lot of them and yeah okay so i think that is it unless you have any questions okay you have a last slide or no yeah that is it okay now you can go to to my slides okay but actually what i pre what i have prepared is just a kind of a review of fo se 6 or 7 movies if you ca can go to the 2nd slide you sent your slides around right yes basically 7 movies and it is it is top movies based on the on the ra ranking and a and awards awards yeah you see the the names of the movies on the on the on the wall so we can perhaps go through all of them and we can little bit discuss so i i i have n i did not see all of them actually so it is just we should probably select one of these because i think these are really good movies and okay we will see okay so if you can go through okay so this is the 1st movie and it is it is m it is more like a drama it is it is very high ranked and actually you have a a nicer list because we can even see the number of the votes yeah 100 f w 140000 so what is the number of the people yeah i think your table is very clear denis finally i found actually your table much better than my than my presentation because perhaps here we can we can really see i mean no we do not have the plot of the of the movie and what is the ranking we ha did not have the plot yeah okay but maybe we can wh who has seen this movie yeah who has seen this movie because then perhaps someone can give some some comment no i have not no i have not i have heard a lot of good things about it i have heard it is a really powerful movie but i have not seen it i yeah i think i i i have seen it actually but w what is the name in french cause i have no idea huh yeah it it is in jail right it taking yeah yeah it is set in a jail i do not remember well this movie yeah well actually your 3rd slide has the plot so yeah it is this one yeah it is the one that is on the on the wall yeah yep it is projected yeah 0 yeah exactly yeah okay so yeah this guy is jailed okay huh okay wow okay so so i ge okay so no one of us saw this movie okay so in that case perhaps it is it is little bit danger to select that movie for the for the yeah yep so let us s play so schindler is list who saw this me yeah i have seen it also i saw it and i think this on is re this one is really nice yeah i have not seen i heard about it but it is you know all a all of you knows the the story so yep yeah it is quite hi it is quite high ranked so i think it is not a bad movie i am thinking whether there was some good occasion something what has happened recently there was something like a celebration of the 50 years after the war or something recently no i think there was a celebration of 60 years from the liberation of the camps actually no that is 60 s 60 years 60 yeah s it can not be 50 sure because they were liberated beginning 45 and yeah it is not bad yeah so and it is also i think it is a good idea at at least from my point of view it is coherent with the previous films like history im major events yep yep that is true that is right yeah i do not know if we want to keep this coherence or change radically but maybe yeah that is yeah i think it is a drawback it is a fairly emotional movie though that is one thing to keep in mind is that it is but then it is not representative of the 90s it is more a movie about the story of the horror of the endured by the jewish during the 2nd world war yeah but amadeus is not really representative of the 80s either well of the 1780s yeah right yeah and according to your thing it is 1984 so yes yes yes yes yeah maybe it is representative of a style of the 80s i do not know as for amadeus but that is i do not know yeah yeah but even here i would not say that the that th this style is representative of the 90s right so but no yeah hard to tell okay but anyway i think it is it is really a good movie i like it when i saw it and okay it is a good movie yeah okay and steven steven spielberg is it is one of the candidates i defini yeah steven spielberg is really quite a good so i director yeah so i i would say we we could think about it okay so i would keep it as a candidate at least yeah that is the 2nd one okay the usual suspect do we want to say something again about it or no i think we can just skip this slide how come it is coming 3rd on your list yeah yeah it is it is forth on agnes is and on my list but it is okay ah you j you selected some movies no you did not take the 61st that is strange what is the rating yeah it is funny actually because on your on your slides actually the ratings are 87 for both perhaps it has changed it is higher no they have the same usual suspects and pulp fiction both are at 87 but on denis is table this one is at 86 but it gets updated daily it gets updated who knows maybe people voted for it yeah yes yes and i did it i did it on wednesday yeah could have changed in the meanwhile and me on tuesday probably though with 100000 votes it should not change too much yes i mean given the number of votes i wonder but anyway it is m it may change i think yeah so it probably has changed so okay it becomes more popular no po yeah yeah yeah okay wow that is encouraging do we have something to add on this movie or no no okay wait how many of us saw schindler is list 3 of us did you see it i am just trying to keep track of how many of us have seen schindler is list yep you have i saw it i saw it you have yep you have not have not i i have seen very few movies from the list about 10 out of the 1st 50 that is why you are in the movie club to see more movies okay yeah okay pulp fiction i think it is again quite hi high ranked but from my perspective everyone already saw it who was interested in that movie he saw it wh who is not interested in that movie he he did not see it and he would not like to see it in the in our movie club so i think we should we should just leave skip it out and leave it out i i would not think about this as a candidate even if it is a good movie but i do not know i think it is why not it is quite representative of the 90s i think and the structure of the movie is interesting i i think the the 1st scene is actually the same scene as the last scene no there is a kind of loop in this movie i can not remember yes yes there was ple i i think there was a plenty of loops actually plenty of yep i think also it is old enough that even if people saw it the 1st time around they do not necessarily remember everything that happened cause i remember seeing it when it came out but i do not particularly remember i fully agree that you can see this movie 3 times perhaps yeah yeah i agree also 3 times and for the 4th time see you still discover something new but on the other hand yeah i have the impression it is really it is you know every everyone saw it it is it is quite well known it woul it wou i you have you have seen it yeah i have seen it this one okay yeah i i like it very much so we have all seen it and the soundtrack is is gorgeous also i have actually seen it no you do not the soundtrack is what i have not i do not remember the soundtrack no well it is plenty of well known songs and you know the twist thing and me neither yeah yeah so what do you think i i would not think about this as a candidate because it seems to me it is 0 i would keep it as a candidate but i do not know i think for the moment m m guess most of these are candidates so we will try to w w we vote at the end or you want to yeah we should probably vote after everyone yeah i mean if there is something that none of us like we can just eliminate it but we might as well leave everything till the end vote that is the best yeah yeah yeah okay yeah when going through we c we could just eliminate okay so we are not going to eliminate this one goodfellas i did not see it no no no no but you can read the comment from the users that is the that is the last bullet point ah it is scorsese is and it says simply a masterpiece and it is scorsese is last really great movie to date yeah it is yeah again a movie about on mafia no mafia yes yeah it is a gangster movie with robert de niro and who are the 02 other guys ray liotta and i cannot i can not recognize them from the picture the picture is not very good quality joe pesci i think maybe ah joe pesci yeah on the r on the right you mean i think yeah on the right and the guy on the left is ray liotta yeah i you you recognize them or you can read the the text on the images i recognize them 0 okay i am a movie buff i know way too much about movies and actors and everything huh very well it is the exact same actors who played in another mafia movie that i cannot rememb les affranchis it was the name in french no what was it about about mafia it that is why i tha that is why i did not go to see this one very descriptive it is quite i it seems to me they are all about the same subject and the same i do not know and it is a movie from 90s yeah the one that you saw that you mentioned probably yeah yeah okay n nobody is seen it so okay no yeah so probably not no no okay silence of the lambs should i tell something more godfather of all thrillers that is what it what it says on the what some user says so okay it is a little bit horror so i think it is quite it is it is a little bit it is definitely not for kids but if the kids are not visitors of our cinema why not okay yeah it one have to rethink when when when you are watching this movie you have to think and it is scaring why not so it is about a psychopathic killer and what was it again the plot i mea the so the f b i agent is assigned to to help find a a missing woman and save her f her from a psychopathic killer with the help of another killer so the other killer is hannibal lecter who so who is in prison actually yeah he he is in jail and he is still killing yeah he is in jail and he is real no h he is in prison yes yeah no no he tries to decrypt the the the other killers behavior ah okay yeah yeah he tries to help the f b i agent but he plays head games with the f b i agent at the same time he is a really psychotic man yeah and so well not very nasty ones or does he i do not know with her yeah he manages to freak her out yeah that is basically the point yeah so so on the picture you can see jodie foster and ha ha hannibal lecter is a very yep th th the moth the moth who is playing the ps psychopath again i do not which the one who is in jail or the one who anthony hopkins yeah anthony hopkins anthony okay yeah the other one i do not remember we do not see any h see him very often i do not either no but he plays it really good but it is anthony hop hopkins he really plays it very good very good yeah yeah he is scary in that movie yeah so but the plot is quite horrible i mean the not the plot but the what the the active killer wants to do is quite horrible and yeah i vaguely remember what it is but okay okay how many of us have seen it i am guessing you have not seen it or h okay no i have seen it actually twice i think yeah i have seen it i think i have seen it a 2nd time on t v but maybe not entirely so have we all seen it i have i have see i have seen it but i can not really remember exactly the all the details okay so we have all seen it i can not either cause i saw it right when it came out that is it is it is probably begin it is a long time ago it is from 91 it came out when 91 yeah 91 91 yeah so and i saw it when i was like 12 or 13 so yeah me too so perhaps it would be and at that age i was like they are much too young yep okay american beauty w w was coming next 7 was quite quite nice actually yeah could you go to the next slide yeah that was very good yeah ah it is actually there yeah it is here and that is actually my last slide yeah so why you choose you choose 7 movie i do not know because it nicely f i i was thinking perhaps we are not able to go through more of them okay indeed so american beauty so i can perhaps read a little bit the user comment if you want or yeah you can read the plot outline on the on the on the projector but it is basically deep wonderful and penetrating movie extraordinary irony and the p and the psychological drama about american life yeah it is definitely about american life yeah suburban life it is it is kind of crude the critique but on the other way it is quite poetic it is yeah there is a lot of very true things in it poetic yeah you know with the the way of filming and i do not know i found it pretty yeah okay the way of filming perhaps but i have not seen it but i would like to see it so no it is q it is quite in interesting yeah so yeah it is much less dark than the other movies we have on that list so it is not very violent really well it depends it is not well it is dark but no ah no it is it is not violent at all but more it is more the cr the cr the critique that is quite crude ah okay great no because all the people in this movie are are psychopath in their own way but not like violent cutting people to pieces psychopaths they are just everyone has their own issues and but they are normal people then okay yeah huh yeah and what about the well that picture with the the girl and do you see naked people in the movie or is it about sex or something like that actually there is this it is what no well a 50 years old man that quit his job and fall in love with the best friend of his daughter with hi his daughter his like teenage daughter ah okay so that is the best friend and he fantasizes about her and yeah supposedly yeah it is it is good movie okay huh okay okay and it is my last slide so yes yes yes you have seen it mirek and i think okay why not it seems to me that perhaps that schindler okay definitely schindler schindler is list is perhaps more serious topic for sure but well it depends it depends what we want do we want that people are more like relaxed in our in our cinema or are more interested in some particular things what do you think i mean what should we how we should what should be the influence how we are influencing the people in the cinema i think we w want them to to see movies that they will not see oth otherwise what do we want but i am not sure then it is quite popular the movie we selected so yeah i think it is a mixture of bringing new things to them but also making them enjoy the show so that they come to our movie club so yeah i think we should not maybe do very mainstream movies but well okay the list here is quite see i do not know what was mainstream in europe like all of these movies are very mainstream for me yeah yeah i think also if you look at the number of votes here but if they are in the top 50 they are quite mainstream but yeah regarding the denis is table i would say given that this site i do not know if it is mainly american but i would say that it has other movies but i think it is predominantly i think there is the yeah i think yeah it is english speaking anyway so though so there are chinese movies english movies yeah but if you look at no there is movies from everywhere but yeah but i would say mainstream are the ones that have more than whatever 60000 votes and you can see some more well confidential films that have like 10000 20000 like princess mononoke 20000 and whatever the the kieslowski at 11000 the trois coleurs rouge it is it is quite a lot for kieslowski actually i was surprised to s yeah yeah yeah it is not bad at all yeah so yeah anyway if you want a definition of mainstream or whatever yeah and festen also is is quite high i i do not know if you have seen this one yep no i have never even heard of it it is the celebration i think it is movie from a swedish guy d danish i think it is the dogma movement danish dogma movies yeah yeah lars von trier yeah 0 okay yeah okay can we yeah let us discuss about your document maybe yeah so it is actually i have made i have made photocopies maybe can i ask you for the for the list of movies yep i have them denis so it is all for you okay okay actually i i tried to propose just one movie with some alternates thank you this one and the you want one denis denis could you give me the the list of the to top 50 yeah sure yeah but you have your own copy then yep okay good thank you so my proposal which is only a proposal would be to to keep the focus on more or less history and action so lawrence of arabia was okay about this guy during the 1st world war so it happens okay outside europe and the states but it is a piece of history apocalypse now it is vietnam if i am correct and okay amadeus that is much much earlier and it is not about it is not violent which is a nice thing i think but given that we would like a movie from the 90s i thought the saving private ryan 0 thanks for projecting the document would keep this more or less this theme of history and war and action drama while showing actually a very new and i would say humanistic view on on war because it is it is not like the sort of glorification of you know the good guys that that well go against the nazis but it is it is well the plot actually if you do not know it it is about people looking for just one soldier in fact it is it is about a a family of 4 brothers who actually 3 of them get killed during the war in these days of 40 well i guess summer 44 and the well the government decides that they need to get back the 4th brother just to save one member of the family and this this guy is private ryan so the movie is not about killing the germans or whatever it is about saving at least one guy from a family so but of course the the setting is during the war and it is very realistic and very dramatic in fact it is it is not at all a glorification of war but it is just it shows a bit the violence of of the things and especially the the beginning is i think it is great it is it is very violent but it is it is an image of of war yeah it is it is v very very violent it is quite horrible actually yeah but i think if well if you compare it with yeah mirek you did not see it that is the i i i saw it and i d i am trying to remember the beginning that is the normandy landing the landing yeah it yeah it is the landing and actually every more or less everyone gets killed and yeah okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that was really horrible yeah this is not a movie for kids like but it is it is a piece of art because he used something like 100 camera to film that or yeah 0 i i did not know but yeah actually it is very well filmed and it is very realistic yeah yep and i do not know if you compare with i do not know in lawrence of arabia i think they have some battles and camels i know it is very nice someone falls somewhere there and well you know it is like battles that look nice but this one does not look nice yeah it is quite s yeah no not at all and i think it is it is also maybe representative of the 90s you know people starting to get the more realistic view of of of war but it is true it is it is a bit violent and so what i put here it is a bit long too it is nearly 3 hours but i do not know apocalypse now is quite long too i think yeah yeah it is there is 2 there are 2 versions i think and but w but we yeah we projected the longer one so i do not remember yeah the redux version is longer yeah yeah so it won 5 oscar prizes best director for steven spielberg best cimena cinematography etcetera how many times spielberg received the best director oscar i think just once for this i do not know not for the schin schindler is list or for 0 maybe he did for e t no for e t he did not he won f he won the it was not until he started doing things like schindler is list and saving private ryan that he actually started winning awards for them 0 no he won f for e t he won the cannes what is palme d or did he 0 okay yeah yeah i did not know that okay so yeah that is that is the point it is it is a bit gray and actually if you look at my 2nd page in the trivia i found out that in fact they actually reduced the the color saturation of the movie just to make it look maybe a bit like the documentaries from the time that was very interesting to read yeah yeah i was very surprised to find this it is but then they i read that they they w where was it they they turned back the colors for th they turned back to yeah they re enhanced the color yeah because people start to complain that that w there was a problem with a t v when they were broadcasting the movie on the t v yeah that it was their t v s and not yeah so this fact number 2 i think obviously for i mean technical people like us is is is is quite funny that is an interesting point interesting point so yeah so i i mean these 4 points could serve also as an introduction if you want to talk f fo for fi 5 or 10 minutes before the movie i do not know in in the room so yeah so tha this would be my candidate but i am very much open to and then then there is this there is an hero i mean it is or a non hero and in all the other stu stories the in the previous movies there were an he an hero lawrence of arabia amadeus apocalypse now it is also non hero i think but but here i do not remember it is actually the tom hanks the hero or it is yeah yeah on th on yeah on the picture actually yeah it is tom hanks in fact you you do not see private ryan until the end more or less or you see because they they are looking for him yeah yeah about 2 thirds of the way through the movie cause most of the movie is them find trying to find him on the front right yeah but in the end you can ref yes he is private ryan tom hanks no no no he is not no tom tom he is trying to find him no yeah he is trying to find him yeah well the caption says captain john miller so so i if you look at the caption yep yeah yeah so he is he is okay private ryan was matt damon i think yeah yeah so the private is just a simple soldier actually yeah by the way did he fied dinally f fi died finally or not yeah who private ryan or no no they find him actually and they send him back to the family but the captain dies actually tom han the private ryan yeah th they i remember i remember they found him but ah okay yes yes yes yeah is it him at the begin it is him at the beginning of the movie at the at the the graveyard right l because i remember 0 yeah it is private ryan yeah remembering at the beginning yeah with his family yeah because i remember that th in the end of the movie they are trying to defend some bridge or something and there is quite heavy shooting and finally it is actually john miller who die yeah exactly yeah he dies unfortunately okay okay so yeah there is sacrifices and at the end to tell you the truth i did not like so much the movie because it was quite moralistic it is not the private ryan because there were a guy who was who did not kill german because he was quite non violent and because he did not kill this german the german killed i do not know maybe 0 perhaps it was a g this tom hanks yeah yep 0 yeah yeah and it was like if he had killed the yeah the german if he would kill him he would not die because he e yeah huh wow yeah tom hanks would not die well i mean yeah it has a moral dimension all over the movie you know saving the individual and the guys yeah so yeah i i do not know i do not know how many people have have seen it well among you well most of you actually i have i have i have seen it 0 all okay all of us i have seen it so maybe th people know it quite well yeah yeah we are running yeah out of time okay so yeah so i have some other candidates it is on 1st page at the bottom i also put pulp fiction the silence of the lambs and i also well sort of included la vita e bella but i know we are an engish movie club so i guess it is it is a bit out of purpose what is the movie about the la vita e bella but it 0 it is it is about again about the camps and the 2nd world war but it was in english no so it is about a family of italians which g arrives into a a death camp and in fact it is treated in a more or less humorous mode ah ha i do not think so no it was an italian huh so the father tries to hide from i from his boy that they are in a death camp huh huh and it is this very strange well not really humor but relation between the how how it end up what is the what is the ending of the movie well the boy gets saved but the father dies yeah so i do not know i it created some controversies i think because people said you should not do any form of humor related to the camps but it is very very moving so i think it is anyway italian so that is actually the 3rd movie about the 2nd war schindler is list a p saving private ryan and la vita e bella yeah yep yeah okay denis yep so i have a quite different movie to propose you i do not know it is f called the big lebowski from joel coen actually they are brothers you probably know them i do not know how many of you have seen this movie no have not seen it but i heard it is very funny no just partially i think and i have seen some other films by by the coen brothers yeah they made fargo which is in the list yeah which is in your table and the last one was the one with catherine zeta jones cr cruel intentions or something like that i think or crue crue yeah something about cruelty or very funny okay so i do not know how i am going to sell you this movie because actually the plot is impossible to make because it is actually it is inspired from a movie called the big sleep and a movie or a novel it is actually the t where i have seen that in a it is a movie from raymond chandler the big sleep it is no but they say that raymond chandler wrote the novel you see it is the the last but one paragraph on your 2nd page ah okay yeah yeah yeah so it is it is it is a novel okay but then the story goes that while that film was in production and director okay okay you are right it was a book i think so okay so it is about a a g a guy who called the d the dude i do not know you pronounce it and he is actually smoking pot and doing nothing just he is living in l a it is it is a typical typical fellow from the from the suburb and he has some friends typical friends 11 is an old guy from coming back from vietnam obsessed by vietnam another guy who is never speaking and they all play together bowling and the casting is very interesting there is okay actually i wanted to propose you some posters related to this movie maybe it w maybe it is going to open the discussion on on posters as well so actually here you on this the 1st poster you can see the actors from the movie i do not know if you know some of them so jeff bridges at the top goodman is the 2nd one the b the big guy then turturro and the last one is buscemi and i do not remember the name of the girl it is julianne moore is not it yeah julianne moore yeah y you wrote the paragraph on the poster i i took it from i do not know where okay so could be edited a bit actu actually i am not going to sp to describe much more the big lebowski but it is quite hard to describe it is it is it is a journey about this guy but it is it is a movie quite surrealistic i mean there are some part that are like coming from dreams and why the movie is called the big lebowski why the big lebowski is his family name right but why it is called the big yeah it is his family name and actually jeffrey lebowski and he is he is the there is a a story with another lebowski that yeah yeah yeah there are 2 lebowskis in the film okay and why the big lebowski and it is the it is the 2nd one or i i i do not remember maybe it is just because of the big sleep there is huh ah okay okay yeah there should be a reference there huh i do not know a reference so it is a kind of it is like american beauty in some way it is even worse yeah we see worse people so it is kind of an ethnographic movie i would say but and it is a modern hero it is it is quite fun and the casting is is marvelous so that is that is it for this movie and i just wanted to go to the design of the poster actually because i quite like that yeah yeah it is probably a bit dark for a poster but otherwise it is very nice yep the idea is is also to discuss the content shall we put a summary of the movie or the plot and w what kind of information do we want so that is the 1st poster there is alo this poster quite dark also so y y i do not know if you you cannot really see but there is the the pricing information so we said that one movie is 8 francs and 3 movies 18 francs and we can have annual subscrip subscription of 60 francs yeah i wanted to say some information to involve people on in the committee as well if they want to take part to the committee to select movies yeah and what else s some i think this is not bad because they say something little bit about our movie club and yeah the big lebowski it is clear that it is a movie and i guess the people can remember that it was a movie at least even if they have not see it looks like a c d cover cd cover yeah actually the idea was to s yeah there is at the bottom the a scene from one of these dream of the big lebowski yeah 0 okay it is a dream and the the 1st part is actually y you see a cowboy and the the hero the jeffrey lebowski the dude and the cowboy it is actually at the beginning of the movie the c the cowboy introduce the story and he is coming back at the end of the story and he is e explaining what kind of movie you are going to to see 0 okay okay sounds a bit crazy and last posters yeah so same principle but i w i do not know i w i was thinking of adding some some cita quotations of well known directors huh yeah and i like it because it is not so dark so the images are a bit brighter yeah but i on the contrary i would say there is too many colors and it is difficult to read and i actually do not like it it looks like 2 yeah it is it looks like 2 separate posters although i think you can mix i would keep the format of the 1st one add the quotes and the content information from the 2nd one yeah yeah yeah yeah that would be the best so take those take those quotes get rid of that section of text put those quotes in there yeah yeah okay put the the information you had in the 2nd poster about the movie club how to join kind of in the middle and keep this title and everything just slightly higher up okay okay i see wh what about a brighter background because this one i do not know how it would show on a wall or something like this it does not really catch your attention i think it does and yeah kay i think the contrast between the the the strip of film and or the strip of pictures and everything else is yeah yeah okay okay i see what i wanted is more or less to know the content of the movie what y you want to have on the poster yeah yeah no the content was very good in the 2nd one because we di we th okay on that one yeah so take all of that content throw it up into the 1st one yeah all this information is very good yeah all this information and put into the 1st one and then maybe add the quotes that you had from the from the famous directors sort of at the bottom or something okay 0 or just one of them if if they fit there if they fit there you will see yeah okay great so i think now we have to decide for a movie and 0 yeah yep w so i i would suggest so big lebowski if it is not too long maybe each of us could nominate one or 2 movies we make a list and then we vote okay good idea what do you think yep so who wants so mirek what do you nominate i th so i am really convinced by the big lebowski you are i yes yeah i i would like to yeah at least to have it in the okay in the nominees okay in the nominees exactly and i am trying to remember all of them another nominee usual suspects okay agnes usual suspects mainly because only 2 of us have seen it and it is not a mainstream movie so i do not think a lot of people would have seen it to begin with yeah well you can nominate one or 2 so that we or whatever i would nominate well okay my candidate saving private ryan and i am happy with your nominations too i would nominate also pulp fiction because it is a very good movie denis so your yours is already nominated but you want i would nominate american beauty as well yeah and and i would be okay with saving private ryan it is it is it can okay so it is already on the list and then i am still hesitating between the schindler is list and the s silence of the lambs may i nominate these all these 3 movies big lebowski schindler is list and the silence of the lambs yeah if you want so so we have 7 candidates if you have a good short term memory that should be okay so you reduced that by what 2 yeah so big lebowski usual suspects saving private ryan pulp fiction american beauty schindler is list and silence of the lambs so now let us vote should we vote just for one film or should each of us say give so eliminate 1st eliminate 1st or we can eliminate 1st 11 movie each and then we s and then we select i am sorry could you go t once again through the list of the movies okay so big lebowski because i do not or i is it possible to put them on the on the on the whiteboard alright you can write on your paper maybe okay okay so the schindler is list the usual suspects silence of the lambs big lebowski okay american beauty and and saving private ryan okay saving private ryan so wait i am missing one what am i missing pulp fiction 12 was that one of them yeah pulp fiction yeah okay pulp fiction okay okay okay so each of us chooses one to eliminate i have 7 i have 6 i have 6 yeah that is a bit cruel but that is i think a good way how many okay we american beauty okay denis me i would remove silence of the lambs because i think it is too violent okay i will just remove it this way i would remove schindler is list because it is too sad okay okay well it is not very good reason but pulp fiction 0 too bad yeah and i would eliminate and you have a reason for it or okay i am not a huge fan of quentin tarantino yeah and i would eliminate pulp fiction actually as well if so and it did not make a good impression maybe you can eliminate another one you can no another one no no because it because it would be saving private ryan really eliminate pulp fiction well i mean leave someth okay so we are left with the big lebowski usual suspects saving private ryan and american beauty it has gone okay so let us vote just simply for one for the moment so i would vote for american beauty because i have not seen it i vote for big lebowski w we are all going to vote for something different so mirek big lebowski agnes denis agnes you v i i still like the usual suspects but i like american beauty too so 0 make a decision usual suspects yeah you can choose okay now i have the if we want okay if we want to take a okay you have the deciding vote y you are the president maybe after all yeah okay so i will go with the big lebowski since the posters are already ready already ready yeah okay yeah i think i am quite fine that is fine so it will make a good change from the other ones is it a b yeah i think at least it is funny and that is nice yeah i think okay so okay decision so it is going to to be big lebowski okay that is your fault mirek if you do not like it it is your problem no no no no no i i like it i like it no no no i mean yeah it is you voted for it so we have other anyway but i am quite happy with it i have not seen it so can we decide for a next meeting maybe yeah well beginning of may i guess to choose the film for may yeah okay is that okay beginning of may but there are there is plenty of holidays at the beginning of may no yeah the 5th is ascension what is that going up to the sky ascension ascension okay 0 or we will decide after the projection of the movie the date yeah we can do it like the tuesday before the ascensions and that is may 3rd it is okay okay okay okay okay no problem kay so yeah good so thanks for the posters actually denis they are very nice you are welcome okay okay thank you okay and see you at the projection see you on what april 26th or what is the 20 ninth ninth ninth no 20 ninth 29 yeah 20 ninth okay okay really looking forward i want to see it
i am just i am a little bit of the i am a lot of i am gonnae hi hello hi everyone i do not know if you all received the agenda for this meeting no i have not here it is thank you i have it so the goal the goal for today are we have 2 goals 1st is to decide a movie for the next projection for our movie club as you know so it is for the last friday of this month of april as you probably remember the movie already projected were lawrence of arabia and apocalypse now in february and amadeus from milos format in march so the question that is open is are we going to select a movie from the 90s and which movie so that is the 1st goal to decide for a movie to be projected and 2nd goal is to discuss for an advertising poster for our club because we noticed that last time not enough people came to the projection so that is it who wants to start so i guess you all prepared some documents for the selection of a movie yeah yes so who has what actually i have got a powerpoint presentation what do you have murek okay i have a powerpoint presentation and there are some reviews of the i think like 7 movies huh and i have a well just a piece of paper with some suggestions what about you denny yeah you have also a piece of paper with my favorite movie okay so should we start with the 2 presentations maybe yeah okay agnes we can start with you it is not very long in any case okay here it is yeah i passed this one okay so what i was thinking is basically the previous movies that we had which you have already mentioned in the agenda lawrence of arabia apocalypse now and amadeus were fairly historical serious dramatic and also action e movies except for maybe amadeus this month i was thinking of selecting something that is more in the present time still dramatic but slightly less serious and what i would propose is something of a thriller or mystery and i know that a lot of people find mysteries not really mysteries in the movies these days they kind of can predict what is going to happen but in the 90s there were some movies that did have surprise endings and then people came out saying okay did not see that coming so i thought we could maybe show one of those and even if people have already seen the movie a lot of the times you go back and watch the movie again and you pick up on things that you did not really notice the 1st time around or you see where the clues were and what led up to the end so that is more along the lines of what i was thinking and the 2 in particular that i would propose are next slide please the usual suspects and the ¢6 i do not know if you have seen any of them the usual suspects was directed by byrne singer and written by christopher mccory it has a fairly large cast so i am not going to read all of them but the main characters are kevin spacey and gabriel byrne and it is basically about 5 criminals who get set up they are arrested they are released from prison they get together and plan a crime and basically the story is told through the views of one of the suspects the tagline is kind of neat 5 criminals one lined up no coincidence and you get told the story that these characters are being controlled by one sort of uber villain and in the end you find out who the uber villain was and i kind of like the quote from rolling stone magazine the usual suspects is the freshest funniest which one was it again the guy who was controlling i do not remember i have seen the movie twice but well they have you guys seen the movie no i have not seen it it is a bold guy you want me to give away the movie no no it will spoil it i will tell you later but the quote from from rolling stone is fairly accurate i think it is one of the freshest funniest and scariest crime thrillers to come along since pulp fiction and the other movie is a 6th sense with the famous line i see dead people which the little boy says it was written and directed by m knight cheyamalan and stars bruce willis haley joel osment and tony colette and again it has a neat twist that you find out right at the end yeah it is a bit more commercial that one yeah i mean yeah the 6th sense was very commercial but so what is the 2nd image on this slide is it the poster it is the poster for the 6th sense but unfortunately i could not find a clear big enough one it has a strange format horizontal so it is 123456 yeah it goes the all of the senses if you go to the next slide there is slightly more detailed things about the movies so the usual suspects is 105 minutes long so it is a decent length of time it has an r rating so i do not remember what type of audience we had at the last shows but it may not necessarily be suitable for kids r is what r is sort of if you are 18 and under you have to have an adult with you okay it is mostly for violence yeah it is restricted it got an 87 out of 10 on the internet movie database it is the 16th in the top 250 movies and 4th in the top movies of the 90s it won a couple of academy awards notably for best writing so that is for the script and best actor for kevin spacey but wait i have the top 10 from the 90s no the top 50 and it is 4th yeah 4th in the top movies of the 90s 16th in the top 250 i think of all time yeah because your table is only the 90s yeah so it won lots of awards it won the best film from the british film association or the british equivalent of the academy awards it was nominated for best foreign film for the cesar so plenty of awards plenty of awards that is 16th in top 250 it is what all days i think of all time all the movies yeah yeah so it is still good okay yeah but those rating are more like it is the number of votes no yeah it is ratings by viewers no actually if you look at your tables i think it is a sort of well average between number of votes and rating and yeah the rating or the marks because in your table you have things that have very few votes but still are rank quite high for instance number 24 which has only 4000 votes and 44 as well which has 740 something votes it is definitely just the average of the rating and okay the number of the votes is there just for the information yeah so that you know how reliable yeah compensated a bit for the number of people i do not know actually because if you have just 10 votes and probably are not in the database but yeah anyway it has excellent votes yeah i have not seen it yeah that is a good movie i highly recommend it and i would not mind seeing it again because i do know the ending and i have not been able to watch it again to see where the hints were that were scattered across the movie because apparently there are hints as to who it is now i remember yeah yeah okay actually there is one guy who is at the police station and they ask him to tell the story he is the one telling the story yeah there is him and the guy in the burn unit what is the 2nd movie the 2nd movie is the 6th sense again it is fairly short has an easier rating it is pg 13 it is much less violent it got an 8 one out of 10 it is 101st in the top 250 and it is 19th on your list i think if i am not mistaken yeah it is 19th i have got a fair number of votes too 96000 again it was nominated for a lot of different academy awards i did not win any but i got a lot of buzz and a lot of people liked it so those are my 2 selections and as you can see the plot is a boy who communicates with spirits i do not know when their dad seeks the help of a dishearted child psychologist to figure out why he is seeing what he is seeing and what it means both movies are quite similar in some way because the last sentence is a totally contradictory to the whole movie yeah yeah the last sentence from the movie yeah the last sentence from the movie yeah it is only right right at the end where you find it really what is going on and it makes you rethink everything that happened beforehand so those would be my 2 suggestions and they are they are slightly more commercial or at least the 6 senses than the other ones we have seen but so these guys were actually nominated so the bottom part of your slide actually it says yeah so these are the best awards they had yeah they were they were nominated for a lot of different awards they did not win too bad i guess the i can not remember what the competition was that year it was just one winner and they were nominated for a lot of them and yeah so i think that is it you have the last slide no no that is it okay now you can go to my slides but actually what i have prepared is just a kind of review of 6 or 7 movies if you can go to the 2nd slide you sent your slides around yes basically 7 movies and it is at top movies based on the ranking and awards you see the names of the movies on the wall so we can perhaps go through all of them and we can a little bit discuss so i did not see all of them actually so it is just we should probably select one of these because i think these are really good movies and okay we will see so if you can go through okay so this is the 1st movie and it is it is more like a drama it is it is very high ranked and actually you have a nice list because we can even see the number of the votes so what is the number of the people i think your table is very 40000 finally i found actually your table much better than my than my presentation because perhaps here we can really see i mean no we do not have the plot of the movie okay but maybe we can who has seen this movie yeah who has seen this movie because then perhaps no i have not i have heard a lot of good things about it i have heard it is a really powerful movie i think i have seen it actually what is the name in french because i have no idea yeah it is in jail right yeah it is set in a jail yeah i do not remember what this one well actually your 3rd slide has the plot yeah it is this one it is the one that is on the wall 0 yeah exactly so yeah this guy is jail okay wow okay so i get okay so no one of us saw this movie so in that case perhaps it is a little bit danger to select that movie for the for the so shindra is list who saw this me yeah i have seen i heard about it this one is really nice you know all of you know the story so it is quite high ranked so i think it is not a bad movie i am thinking whether there was some good occasion something has happened recently there was something like a celebration of the 50 years after the war or something recently no no i think there was a celebration there was a celebration of 60 years from the liberation of the camps because they were liberated beginning 45 yeah it is not bad and it is also i think it is a good idea at least from my point of view it is coherent with the previous films like history major events i do not know if we want to keep this coherence or change radically it is a very emotional movie though yeah that is one thing to keep in mind i think it is a drawback but then it is not representative of the 90s it is more a movie about the story of the horror of the endured by the jewish during the 2nd world war yeah but amadeus is not really representative of the 80s of the 1780s yeah and according to your thing it is 1984 maybe it is representative of a style of the 80s i do not know that is one of those yeah that is i do not know but even here i would not say that the that this style is representative of the 90s right no yeah hard to tell okay but anyway i think it is really good movie i like it when i saw it and okay okay it is one of the candidates i definitely yeah stephen spielberg is really quite a good so i director so i would say we could think about it okay i would keep it as a candidate at least okay the usual suspect do we want to say something again about it no i think we can just skip this line how come it is coming 3rd on your list yeah yeah it is 4th on agnes and on my list you selected some movies no you did not take the 61st what is the rating yeah it is funny actually perhaps it has changed because on your slides actually the ratings are 87 for both no they have the same usual suspect and pulp fiction both are at 87 but on denise table this one is at 86 it gets updated who knows maybe people voted for it yeah yes could have changed in the meanwhile i did it on wednesday and me on tuesday with 100000 votes it should not change too much i mean given the number of votes i wonder but anyway it may change i think so it probably has changed so it became more popular no yeah wow okay do we have something to add on this movie or no no okay wait how many of us saw schindler is list 3 of us did you see it i am just trying to keep track of how many of us have seen shindler is list yeah i saw it you have you have not i have seen very few movies from the list about 10 out of the 1st 50 that is why you are in the movie club to see more movies yeah okay pulp fiction i think it is again quite high ranked but from my perspective from my perspective everyone already saw it who was interested in that movie he saw it who is not interested in that movie he did not see it and he would not like to see it in our movie club so i think we should just skip it out and leave it out i would not think about this as a candidate even if it is a good movie but i do not know it is quite representative of the 90s i think and the structure of the movie is interesting i think the 1st scene is actually the same scene as the last scene no there is a kind of loop in this movie yes yes i think there is plenty of loops actually i think also it is old enough that even if people saw it the 1st time around they do not necessarily remember everything that happened because i remember seeing it when it came out but i do not particularly remember i fully agree that you can see this movie 3 times perhaps i agree with it and for the 4th time you still discover something new but on the other hand i have the impression it is really it is you know everyone saw it it is quite well known you have seen it yeah i have seen it okay i like it very much and the soundtrack is gorgeous also no is what the soundtrack i have not i do not remember the soundtrack well it is plenty of well known songs you know the twist thing yeah yeah so what do you think i would not think about this as a candidate because it seems to me it is well i would keep it as a candidate but i do not know i think for the moment i guess most of these are candidates date so we will try to we vote at the end or you want to yeah we should probably vote yeah i mean if there is something that none of us like we can just eliminate it but we might as well leave everything until the end when going through we could just eliminate okay so we are not going to eliminate this one good fellas i did not see no no no no but you can read the comment from the users that is the that is the last bullet and it says simply a masterpiece and it is a scource last really great movie it is yeah again the movie about on mafia no yeah it is a gangster movie with robert de niro and who are the 2 other guys re leota and i can not recognize them from the picture the picture is not very good clearly yeah on the right yeah on the right yeah on the right and the guy on the left is rea you recognize them or you can read the the text on the images i am a movie buff i know way too much about movies it is the exact same actors who played in another mafia movie that i cannot remember les afranchi it was the name in french what was it about about mafia very descriptive that is why i did not go to see this one it seems to me they are all about the same subject and same i do not know and it is a movie from 90s the one that you saw that you mentioned probably yeah okay nobody seen it no yeah so probably not silence of the lamps should i tell something more good father of all thrillers that is what it says on the what some user says so okay it is a little bit horror i think it is quite it is a a little bit it is definitely not for kids but for kids but if the kids are not visitors of our cinema why not yeah it one have to rethink when when you are watching this movie you have to think and it is scaring why not so it is about a psychopathic killer and what was it again the plot i mean the so the fbi agent is assigned to to help find a missing woman and save her her her from a psychopathic killer with the help of another killer so the other killer is hannibal lecter who is in prison he is in jail and he is really no he tries to decrypt the other killer is behavior but he plays head games with the fbi agent at the same time he is a really yeah it is not very nasty ones or does with her he manages to freak her out yeah that is basically the point so on the picture you can see jody foster and ha ha ha the moth who is playing the psychopath again which the one who is in jail or the one anthony hopkins the other one i do not remember we do not see him very awful but he plays it really good anthony hopkins he replaces very good very good here but the plot is quite horrible i mean that not the plot but what the active killer wants to do is quite horrible yeah i vaguely remember what it is okay how many of us have seen it i am guessing you have not seen it no i have seen it actually twice i think i have seen it i think i have seen it a 2nd time on tv but maybe not in time i have seen it but i can not really remember exactly all the details i can not either because i saw it right when it came out it is a long time ago it came out 91 91 yeah yeah so and i saw it when i was like 12 or 13 yeah me too and at that age it was much too young okay american beauty was coming next 7 was good yeah yeah that was very good yeah it is actually there yeah and it is here and that is actually my last slide so why you choose you choose 7 movie i do not know because it is nicely i was thinking perhaps we are not able to go through more of them okay so american beauty so i can perhaps read a little bit the user command if you want or yeah you can read the plot outline on the on the projector but it is basically deep wonderful and penetrating movie extraordinary irony and the psychological drama about american life yeah it is definitely about american yeah suburban life it is kind of crude the critic but on the other way it is quite poetic there is a lot of very true things in it yeah poetic yeah you know with the way of filming and i do not know okay the way of filming perhaps but i would like to see it no it is quite interesting yeah so it is much less dark than the other movies we have on that list so it is not very violent really it is not well it is dark but it is it is not violent at all 0 okay but it is more the critic that is quite crude because all the people in this movie are a psychopath in their own way but not like violent cunning people but they are normal people okay yeah just everyone has their own issues and what about the well that picture with the girl and do you see naked people in the movie or actually is it about sex or something it is what a 50 years old man that quit his job and fall in love with the best friend of his daughter his daughter so that is the best friend and he fantasizes about her yeah it is good movie okay and that is my last slide you have seen it mirac yes yes yes and i think okay why not it seems to me that perhaps a schindler okay definitely schindler is list is perhaps more serious topic for sure but well it depends it depends what we want do we want that people are more like a relaxed in our cinema or are more interested in some particular things what the thing i mean what should be how we should what should be the influence how we are influencing the people in the cinema i think we want them to see movies that they will not see otherwise but i am not sure then it is quite popular the movie we selected yeah i think it is a mixture of bringing new things to them but also making them enjoy the show so that they come to our movie club so yeah i think we should not maybe do very mainstream movies but well okay the list here is quite i do not know what was mainstream in europe like all of these movies are very mainstream for me yeah i think also if you look at the number of votes here they are quite mainstream but yeah i think denise table i would say given that this site i do not know if it is mainly american but i would say that it has other movies but i think it is predominantly yeah i think i think there is it is english speaking anyway so there are chinese movies english movies yeah but if you look at no there is movies from everywhere but yeah but i would say mainstream are the ones that have more than whatever 60000 votes and you can see some more well confidential films that have like 10000 20000 like princess mononoke 20000 and whatever the kislovsky at 11000 the trakoulouse it is quite a lot for kilovsky actually i was surprised yeah it is not bad at all yeah so yeah anyway if you want a definition of mainstream or whatever and feston also is is quite high i do not know if you have seen this one it is the celebration i think it is a movie from swedish guy danish i think it is the dogma movement dogma movies yeah lars von trier yeah okay okay can we yeah let us discuss about your document maybe yeah so it is actually i have made yeah i have made photocopies i have them deni so okay it is all for you actually i tried to propose just one movie with some alternates and 11 11 me the list of the top 50 yeah you have your own copy yep then okay good thank you so my proposal which is only a proposal would be to to keep the focus on more or less history and action so laurence of arabia was okay about this guy during the 1st world war so it happens okay outside europe and the states but it is a piece of history apocalypse now it is a vietnam vietnam if i am correct and okay maddo is that is much much earlier and it is not about it is not violent which is a nice thing i think but given that we would like a movie from the 90s i thought the saving private ryan 0 thanks for projecting the document would keep this more or less this theme of history and war and action drama while showing actually actually a very new and i would say humanistic view on on war because it is it is not like the sort of glorification of you know the good guys that that well go against the nazis but it is a it is well the plot actually if you do not know it it is about people looking for just one soldier in fact it is it is about a family of 4 brothers who actually 3 of them get killed during the war in these days of 40 well i guess summer 44 and well the government decides that they need to get back the 4th brother just to save one member of the family and this guy is private ryan so the movie is not about killing the germans or whatever it is about saving at least one guy from a family so but of course the setting is during the war and it is very realistic and very traumatic in fact it is not at all a glorification of war but it is just it shows a bit the violence of the things and especially the beginning is so i think it is great it is it is very violent but it is it is an image of war yeah it is it is quite horrible actually very violent yeah but i think if well if you compare it i saw it and i am trying to remember the beginning that is the landing yeah yeah yeah yeah that and actually every more or less everyone gets to it is a piece of art because he used something like 100 camera to film that 0 i do not know but yeah actually it is very well filmed and it is very realistic and i do not know if you compare with i do not know in lawrence of arabia i think they have some battles on camels i know it is very nice someone falls somewhere there and well you know it is like battles that look nice but this one does not look nice and i think it is also maybe a representative of the 90s you know people starting to get a more realistic view of of war but it is true it is a bit violent and so what i put here it is a bit long too it is nearly 3 hours but i do not know apocalypse now is quite long too i think yeah it is very there are 2 versions i think yeah the redux version is longer yeah we projected the longer one yeah so it won 5 oscar prizes best director for steven spielberg best cinematography etc how many times spielberg received the best director i think just once for this not for the schindler list or for 0 maybe he did for e t no for e t he did not he will not it was not until he started doing things like schindler is list and saving private ryan that he actually started winning awards for them no he won for ety did he did he did he okay  go ahead okay so yeah that is the point it is a bit gray and actually if you look at my 2nd page in the trivia i found out that in fact they actually reduced the color saturation of the movie just to make it look maybe a bit like the documentaries that was very interesting to read yeah yeah i was very surprised to find this but then i read that they where was it they turned back the colors they re end their color yeah because people start to complain that there was a problem with the tv when they were broadcasting the movie on the tv yeah so this fact number 2 i think obviously for technical people like us it is an interesting point it is quite funny so yeah so i mean these 4 points could serve also as an introduction if you want to talk for 5 or 10 minutes before the movie i do not know in the room so yeah so then this would be my candidate but i am very much there is a hero i mean it is a non hero and in all the other stories in the previous movies there were a hero lawrence of arabia amadeus apocalypse now it is also a non hero i think but here i do not remember it is actually the yeah on the picture actually yeah it is tom hanks in fact you do not see private ryan until the end more or less or you see yeah but they are looking for him most of the movies is them trying to find him on the front is private ryan no no he is trying to find him yeah he is trying to find him well the caption says captain john miller so if you look at the caption private ryan was matt damon yeah so the private is just a simple soldier actually by the way did he find i died finally or not who private ryan no no they find him actually and they send him back to the family but the captain dies actually it is him at the beginning of the movie at the graveyard right 0 yeah it is private ryan yeah remembering with his family because i remember that in the end of the movie they are trying to defend some bridge or something and there is quite heavy shooting and finally it is actually john miller who die yeah exactly yeah he dies unfortunately so yeah there is sacrifice at the end to tell you the truth i did not like so much the movie because it was quite moralistic because there were a guy who did not kill a german because he was quite non violent and because he did not kill this german the german killed i do not know maybe perhaps it was a this tom hanks yeah yeah and it was like if he had killed the yeah the german if he would kill him he would not know wow yeah things would not die well i mean yeah it has a moral dimension all over the movie you know saving the individual and the guys so yeah i do not know i do not know how many people have seen it well among you well most of you actually 0 okay all of us so maybe people know it quite well yeah we are running yeah okay so yeah so i have some other candidates it is on 1st page at the bottom i also put pulp fiction the silence of the lams and i also well sort of included la vita and bella but i know we are an english movie club so i guess it is a bit out of purpose what is the movie about la vita and bella 0 it is about again about the camps and the 2nd world war so it is about a family of italians which arrives into a death camp and in fact it is treated in a more or less humorous mode so the father tries to hide from his boy that they are in a death camp and is this very strange well not really humor but relation between yeah how it end up what is the what is the well the boy gets saved but the father dies yeah so i do not know it created some controversies i think because people said you should not do any form of humor related to the camps but it is very very moving so i think it is anyway italian there is actually a 3rd movie about the 2nd war schindler is list saving private ryan and yeah yeah okay denny yeah so i have a quite different movie to propose you i do not know it is called the big lebobski from joel cohen actually they are brothers you probably know them i do not know how many of you have seen this movie no have not just partially i think but i heard it is very funny i have seen some other films by by the cohen brothers yeah they made fargo which is in the list yeah which is in your table and the last one was the one with catherine zeta jones crew crew crual intentions or something like that i think yeah something about cruelty okay so i do not know how i am going to sell you this movie because actually the plot is impossible to make because it is actually it is inspired from a movie called the big sleep sleep and a movie or a novel it is actually where i have seen that in it is a movie from a man on chandler the big sleep it is no but they say that raymond chandler wrote the novel it is the the last but one paragraph on your 2nd page so it is it is a it is a novel okay but then the story goes that well that film was in production and direct hector howard oaks okay you are right it was a book okay so it is about a guy called the dude i do not know how you pronounce it and he is actually smoking pots and doing nothing he is living in la it is a typical fellow from the suburb and he has some friends typical friends one is an old guy from coming back from vietnam obsessed by vietnam another guy who is never speaking and they all pay together bullying the casting is very interesting there is okay actually i wanted to propose you some posters related to this movie maybe it is going to open the discussion on posters as well so actually here you on this the the 1st poster you can see the actors from the movie i do not know if you know some of them so jeff bridges at the top goodman is the 2nd one the big guy then turtoro and the last one is buccini and i do not remember the name of the girl it is julianne moore is no yeah julian moore you wrote the paragraph on the poster i took it from i do not know where so actually edited a bit actually i am not going to describe much more the big lebovsky but it is quite hard to describe it it is a journey about this guy but it is a movie quite surrealistic i mean there are some parts that are like coming from dreams and why the movie is called the big lebovsky why the big lebovowski is his family name right but why yeah it is his family name and actually jeffrey lebovowski and he is the there is a story with another lebovsky yeah there are 2 lebovskis in there okay and why the big lebovsky is the 2nd one i do not remember maybe it is just a because of the big sleep there is a reference a reference so it is a kind of it is like american beauty in some way it is even worse we see worse people so it is kind of an ethnographic movie i would say but and it is a kind of an ethnographic movie i would say but and it is a a modern hero is quite fun and the casting is marvelous so that is that is it for this movie and i just wanted to go to the design of the poster actually because i quite like that yeah yeah it is probably a bit dark for a poster but otherwise it is very nice the idea is also to discuss the content should we put a summary of the movie or the plot and what kind of information do we want so that is the 1st poster there is also this poster quite dark also so i do not know if you you cannot really see but there is the pricing information so we say that one movie is 8 francs and 3 movies 18 francs and we can have an annual subscription of 60 francs i wanted to say some information to involve people people in the committee as well if they want to take part to the committee to select movies and what else i think this is not bad because they say something a little bit about our movie club and yeah the big labovsky is clear that it is a movie and i guess the people can remember that it was a movie at least even if they have not seen it looks like a cd cover yeah actually the idea was too yeah there is at the bottom the scene from one of this dream of the big leibovsky yeah okay it is a dream and the 1st part is actually you see a cowboy and the hero the jeffrey lebovsky the dude and the cowboy it is actually at the beginning of the movie the cowboy introduced the story and he is coming back at the end of the story and he is explaining what kind of movie you are going to see okay sounds a bit crazy and last posters so same principle but i do not know i was thinking of adding some quotations of well known directors i like it because it is not so dark so the images are a bit brighter i actually do not like it on the contrary yeah i would say there is too many colors and it is difficult to read although i think you can mix i would keep the format of the 1st one add the quotes and the content information from the 2nd one yeah that would be the best so take those quotes get rid of that section of text put those quotes in there put the information you had in the 2nd poster about the movie club how to join kind of in the middle and keep this title and everything just slightly higher up okay i see what about the brighter background because this one i do not know how it would show on a wall or something like this it does not really catch your attention i think it does i think the contrast between the strip of film and or the strip of pictures and everything else is okay i see what i wanted is more or less to know the content of the movie what you want to have on the poster yeah no the content was very good on the 2nd one okay on that one yeah so take all of that content throw it up into the 1st one and then maybe add the quotes that you had from the famous directors sort of at the bottom or something or just one of them if they fit there if they fit there okay great so i think now we have to decide for a movie 0 yeah so i would suggest some if it is not too long maybe each of us could nominate one or 2 movies we make a list and then we vote okay good idea what do you think yeah so what is so mirak what do you know so i am really convinced by the big lebovsky you are yes yeah i would like to at least to have it in the in the nominees exactly another nominee and you are not to remember all of them okay agnes usual suspect mainly because only 2 of us have seen it and it is not a mainstream movie so i do not think a lot of people would have seen it to begin with yeah we can nominate one or 2 so that we or whatever i would nominate well okay my candidate saving private ryan and i am happy with your nominations too i would nominate also pulp fiction because it is a very good movie deny so yours is already nominated but american beauty as well yeah and i would be okay with saving private ryan okay so it is already on the list and then i am still hesitating between the schindler is list and the silence of the lamps may i nominate all these 3 movies big labovs a skiy big lebovsohn is list and the silence of the lamps so we have 7 candidates if you have a good short term memory that should be okay so big leavovsky usual suspects saving private ryan pulp fiction american beauty shindler is list and silas on the lams so now let us vote should we vote just for one film or should each of us say give so eliminate 1st 0 we can eliminate 1st 11 movie each and then we and then we select i am sorry could you go okay once again through the list of the movies because i do not think leboffsky is it possible to put them on the on the on the whiteboard i can write on your paper maybe the schindler is list the usual suspects silence of the lamps big lebowski american beauty and saving private ryan okay okay so i am missing one what am i missing pulp fiction yeah pulp fiction okay so each of us chooses one to eliminate i have 6 that is a bit cruel but i have 7 that is a good way okay i am very computing me i will remove silence of the lamps because i think it is too violent okay i will just remove it this way i would remove shinloor i would remove schindler is list because it is too sad okay well it is not a very good reason but pop fiction 0 too bad yeah and i would terminate and you have a reason for it or i am not a huge fan of quentin tarantino and i would eliminate pulpiction actually as well if so it is maybe you can eliminate another one no no no no because i would be it has gone okay so we are left with the big lebowski usual suspects saving private ryan and american beauty okay so let us vote just simply for one for the moment so i would vote for american beauty because i have not seen it i vote for big lebowski we are all going to something different so mirac divlovsky agnes deny agnes i still like the usual suspects but i like american beauty too so make your decision usual suspects okay now i have the you have the most exciting vote you are the president maybe after all huh okay so i will go with the big lebovsky since the posters are already ready already ready yeah okay yeah i think i am that is fine it will make a good chance it will make a good change from yeah i think at least it is funny and that is nice okay so is it going to be beglebowski  okay that is your thought mirac if you do not like it it is your problem no no no no no i mean yeah it is so we have other months anyway so can we decide for next meeting maybe well beginning of me may i guess to choose the film for may yeah okay okay beginning of may but there is plenty of holidays at the beginning of may no yeah the 5th is ascension what is that ascantio okay okay or we will decide after the projection of the movie the date yeah we can do it like the tuesday before the ascension so that is may 3rd okay okay no problem so yeah so thanks for the posters actually the need there very nice okay okay thank you okay and see you at the position see you on what april 26 or no 29 29 yeah 29 okay we are looking for what i want to see it i am not going to be