it is just that i need some some white paper are you going to take the minutes yes yep good so hello everybody hello so you everybody had the a agenda for today you received it or hello hello i do not do you have an extra copy yep thanks so the goal for today is to decide for a movie to project at the end of the month so for this month of of april and also discuss the content for an adver advertising posters and i i will present you 3 des different design we will discuss it so 1st we have to decide for a movie okay so i think we all prepared documents yes i did so i propose that we start with presentation agnes sent sure okay so the previous movies that we have done this year were lawrence of arabia apop apocalypse now and amadeus which were all historical serious dramatic and somewhat actiony movies so for this month i propose doing something different preferably something set in the present something maybe dramatic but slightly less serious so what i would propose is actually a thriller or a mystery and while these days people are so jaded by general movies that they tend not to be surprised by the endings in mysteries some movies in the 90s did actually have twists that people came out saying never saw that coming i did not know that that was going to happen and so what i am going to do is present you 2 of those movies and before anyone says that well if you know th how the movie ends you are not going to want to see it again that is not necessarily the case because a lot of people like to re watch movies to see where the clues were what they missed things they did not pay attention to the 1st time around so if you can go to the next slide what i would propose is either the usual suspects or the 6th sense the usual suspects is slightly less mainstream is has a fairly large cast notably kevin spacey gabriel byrne and it was directed by bryan singer it is one of his earlier movies i think it was written by quist christopher mcquarrie and according to rolling stone it is the freshest funniest and scariest crime thril thriller to come along since pulp fiction the 6th sense on the other hand is a more commercial movie with its famous line i see dead people ah it was written and directed by m night shyamalan and stars bruce willis haley joel osment and toni collette and it is about a little boy who sees dead people and i he sees a child psychologist to try to get him to understand why he sees the dead people what it means and actually the psychologist is dead now that you have given away the twist yes no but we are the clubbers but agnes i was just wondering i see i have here denis is table and when they say that it is the freshest whatever since pulp fiction yeah yep well that is probably not a very long time because pulp fiction is 94 and usual suspects is 95 send your complaints to rolling stone okay yeah so on the next couple of slides i will just go through some of more detailed stuff that we might need for administrative purposes the length for the usual suspects is a 105 minutes as you can s well as andrei already said it is n 1995 it has an r rating which means that at least in the in north america it was not recommended for people under 18 cause it is fairly violent but not so violent as other movies plot outline 5 villains in new york are rounded up by the police in an unconventional manner that worries them after release they get together for a spot of revenge but someone else is controlling events and the big mystery of the movie is who is controlling the events it got an 87 out of 10 user rating on the internet movie database it is 16th in the top 250 movies of all time forth in denis is list of the top movies of the 1990s which i think was also taken from i m d b yep it won several academy awards including best supporting actor and best writing best film for the british equivalent of the academy awards it was nominated for a cesar for best foreign film so it got a fair bit of recognition despite not being a very mainstream high budget movie or maybe because it was not a mainstream high budget movie so wha what will be your argument for projecting this movie i do not think a lot of people have seen it in fact other than i have not see it you have not seen it you have not seen it you have seen it i have not seen it yep and do not think a lot of people have seen it it is not a very very well known movie what it is very well known is it yeah it is a really i think yeah see it is one of the most well known thriller really that surprises me i always got the impression that it was 0 it is it is hard to tell yeah so that is your impression that is my impression yeah yeah that is mine but but it is it is rated 44th in in the list and 110000 yeah well it is a good movie yeah how many people voted for it yeah that is true seen it 100000 yeah 102 voted for it for for voted for it yeah voted for it and i think only 2 other mov no f 3 other movies have have more votes more votes yeah it is it seems to be quite popular yeah so but i think the main thing is it has got a good twist at the end and it is it is an interesting movie to watch okay so if you go to the next slide more or less the same thing for the 6th sense it is slightly newer 1999 more or less the same amount of time it has a lower rating cause it is less violent but it depends what audience we are going to have at the showings yeah is not violent at all in fact or it is more like scary or it has it is scary and i think it has some sort of slight violence but huh but the kid is seeing dead people i mean is it is quite yeah but they are not violently dead no but it is quite morbid you can say that scary or yeah it is it is morbid and it is creepy but it is not violent as in people being sliced in half or anything like that yeah morbid creepy or yeah it is 19th in the top movies of the 90s 101st in the top 250 it was nominated for a lot of awards it did not win as many might have won more sort of minor awards but at least the academy awards it was nominated for 5 of them but did not win nevertheless still a good movie still a good twist at the end which denis already gave away they do not remember good so those would be my 2 choices have you seen it yep okay so what was you criteria for selecting this movie or let it is a sort of different style from the other movies we have seen and they have a twist so it is not your general movie where you just kind of sit through it and go 0 okay get up and leave it is at least out of those 2 movies i came out thinking 0 cool okay but then it is only at the at the end that it it becomes a good movie yeah but i mean that is a good thing right only because of the of the end okay i i have heard some people in the in the theater saying 0 now we have to see it again yes yeah ah which is a good marketing ploy if you think about it but then if you asked them 5 minutes ago okay if we show it twice okay so is bruce willis the child psychologist yeah bruce willis is and the kid is really good who plays the the main character ah yeah great yeah it is the guy who then played in artificial intelligence or something like this yeah yeah great same guy okay so i think mirek you prepared a presentation also yeah we can have a look so my presentation is not that detailed i just put there 7 highly ranked movies and we can just try to g go very quickly through all of them just to re remind you them and then we can perhaps consider another p potential candidates sorry it is control l okay so the movies that i have selected as as very good good ranked movies are are on the screen so shaw the shawshank redemption schindler is list usual suspects pulp fiction goodfellas silence of the lambs and american beauty so perhaps we can go to the to the f to the 1st movie the shawshank redempt redemption actually i did not see that movie so is there someone else who have seen this movie no me neither i have heard a lot of really good things about it but okay i thi i have s i have seen it but i do not remember it so i was told that in french it was called les evadees which is not good okay the plot outline says that the life of andy dufresne duf okay of andy yeah changes when he he is convicted and jailed for the murder of his wife and the user comment says it is simply amazing the best film of the 90s so that is what it says okay we can not tell much more because basically none of us have seen it should we should we believe this but the rating is very good then yeah so the 2nd one is a schindler is list it is more serious movie it is from the saint steven spielberg and it is about the 2nd war sec 2nd world war the plot outline is that the oskar schindler uses jews to start a factory in poland during the war and he witnesses the horrors endured by the jews and starts to save them user comment says a film for all to see and learn and i think it is really something what is very serious theme and yeah so that is a schindler is list we can perhaps do you have some comments i i have seen it i think it is really good movie it is it is quite long actually i can not here i did not put the the minutes but i think it is it is at least about 3 hours yeah i think it is about 3 hours long something like that and it is a heavy movie i it is emotional it is yeah it you know if it is to if it received some award no i do not know i do not know unfortunately or probably no i think it did yeah i think also but either for director if not for best picture yeah maybe even best picture yeah but i would expect it i would expect it yeah yeah okay so if you can go to the but yeah indeed it is maybe too sad and too yeah too poignant for well it is a true story also so it is a true story yeah yeah it is it is yeah i would say that the user comment says everything a film to see and to learn well and to remember maybe or and to remember as well yeah okay th so the 3rd one is the usual suspects so i think i i would not i do not want to comment it again so we can just skip that because it was this this is the one already commented by agnes so let us go to the to the other one pulp fiction i would say that is that is like a classical movies of of 90s it is directed by quentin tarantino it is a it is a crime and drama it is a a there i there are several s several stories that are just mixed up during the during the movie and yeah yeah it is a real classical movie i would say almost nowadays so so who has seen it agnes you have seen it yeah i have seen it yeah i have seen it too i have seen it yeah it is it is very good and it is a bit violent but it is also quite funny i think yeah so all of us sure sure you can see it several times because i mean the 1st time you cannot catch all the details it is a and then i when you see it 2nd times and 3rd times it is and it is it is the comeback from of john travolta no so yeah yeah that was his comeback movie yeah it is big comeback yeah big comeback of john travolta yes big comeback yeah i would say good comeback bruce willis is there also yes yeah yeah yeah who is there huh the boxer sorry pardon yeah yeah yeah bruce willis is there as a boxer yeah yeah as the boxer and what is the name of the girl on the poster it is uma thurman yeah uma thurman uma thurman okay yes okay so that is pulp fiction definitely should be considered yep so on the list i i brought on the docu on my document the 2 movies pulp fiction and usual su suspect are just swapped pulp fiction is actually coming before the usual suspect wow that is interesting how maybe cause i m d b is updated daily so if it happens that people had voted for it that may be yeah because yeah because i have i have i have th this review on on wednesday yeah tuesday it is quite surprising though but okay okay yeah it is strange with so many votes that they can p shift it is yeah i mean statistically speaking it is strange goodfellas i have not see that movie the plot outline says that the henry hill and the his friends work their way their way up through the mob hierarchy and the user comment says it is a simply a masterpiece so and if you go to the to the to the votes there is quite a lot of people who has vote for the goodfellas 66000 okay it is it is modern day average so it is perhaps not a bad movie wow i dunno i have not see that actually i have seen it now i realize yeah yeah you have seen it have you yeah no because i thought it was like another movie but it is it is this movie actually but it is this movie but it was that movie huh okay ah okay and how i was it called mafia les in french i think it that one but it is very violent okay very it does not say it here but it is probably rated r yeah yeah i would not be surprised so it talks about the 19 twen 20s or something like 0 of 20s no it is later than that is not it it speak about a guy who is not italian who is going up in the hierarchy of mafia okay okay so so not really in favor of this but the mob so the mob is the mafia actually mob is mafia yeah okay okay silence of the lambs that is a godfather of all thrillers i would say ah fully in line with the user comments basically it is a it is a thriller horror and crime all together the plot outline says that the clarice starling the young f b i agent is assigned to help a f to help find a mi missing woman and save her from the ps psychopathic killer with the help of another killer this another killer is actually in a jail and it is anthony hopkins and he really plays it a very good i would say i am not sure whether he received some a awards for that but it is really it is i do not know but it was a good performance creepy yes very good performance very good performance and jodie foster is very good as well yeah yeah and we can see her actually on the picture on the on the projector she was pretty young no for yeah i think yeah when yeah i saw this movie some time ago and yeah she looked quite young i thought i think so yeah w w from whe when is the movie when did it come out 9191 91 yeah 91 yeah so nowadays she is already 14 years older as are we all yep yeah and i saw this movie when i was like 12 or 13 and it was really really bad experience yeah me too so i can not remember all the details of that movie but i would like to see it again i do not think i have seen it since then i recently i saw the the hannibal that the seco the sec it was a 3rd 3rd part actually it was called hannibal i guess ah no on the seco 2nd one it was 2nd one yeah yeah so that is why but not that good no it was not that good but i think it was almost more disgusting in a way it was really disgusting yeah there were some scenes in it where normally i do not get queasy watching movies but that was just too much yeah okay what is your opinion okay you have seen it 0 yeah i have seen it yeah yeah it is a good movie i i do not know maybe too well known but since it is 15 years old maybe people would li it might be a little bit too violent yeah for i dunno violent and and scary as well yeah psychopathic i mean it is okay and last choice and the last choice that i think it is it is not a bad movie it is american beauty that is a good movie yep that is a good one it is basically about the about the people in america each of them is i would say psychotic in his his own way but normally they appear to be s normal people as as we can see them ev every day so and it is really it is the user comments say it is a deep wonderful penetrating film extraordinary irony in a psychological drama about american life and i can fully agree with this user comment and kevin spacey it is no kevin spacey he received something no yeah it is kevin spacey 0 again quite possibly yeah he is actually quitting his job at the beginning but he is simulating a fight with his boss in order to to to pursue pursue to he is simulati i i i have seen this movie but i i see yeah i think s yeah yeah yeah yeah to sue him afterward and then but then he fell in love with the the with the with the friend of his daughter if i remember well yeah yeah yeah that is really ah that is the girl who is represented on the the picture maybe yep theoretically yeah you recognize her belly no there is this rose because the she is he is imagining her taking baths with ro roses all around and he is yeah yeah yeah yeah that is true yeah 0 so you recognize the rose exactly huh yeah okay so what will be your favou your preferred one on in this list and i think that is the last yeah if would like to go for something what is really serious i would definitely go for schindler is list and if not then i would like to see this shawshank redemption because it receive i yeah it it none of us seen this movie unfortunately the 1st one yeah probably yeah you received so yeah but as you can see from the from your from your table there is a plenty of votes yeah yeah it is actually i think it is a movie with highest number of the votes yeah it is yeah that is true and it is tim robbins and who is the morgan freeman the guy behi morgan freeman morgan freeman yeah yeah yeah great actors yeah but did not i mean i see this name of the the director on the slide but i do not really know him darabont frank darabont me neither me neither yeah never heard of this guy yeah but really i would like to highlight that it is a it is a movie with highest number of the votes and the highest ranking at the same time yep so okay yep it tells something okay it is just a do we want to have to display the most popular movie or or we are well let us go through the other suggestions yeah i am not sure and actually i do not think it is it is it is that popular in europe at least because i really you see none of us have seen it so yeah yeah that is right yeah yeah maybe but it is true yeah we should not stick to only very highly rated movies on this table though it is a very useful table but okay do you want me to yeah okay andrei yeah can can you comment your so yeah i wrote some notes on on saving private ryan which is my candidate if you can display them it is perfect yeah do you all have a copy of them i do i have some paper copies yeah i w thank you yeah yeah you are welcome so actually given that more or less our theme since the beginning of the year was history drama action and given also that well we decided to to present this month a movie from the the 90s i thought that among these movies who look quite popular saving private ryan would be a very good candidate actually it is a movie i have seen have you seen it before yeah yep yeah okay so you have all seen it so maybe everyone has seen it i am not very sure but i think it is a very novel treatment of of war it is it is no longer the b glorification of whatever combat and victory but the plot is quite different it is about saving one person who has a special special value in the in the movie if only because his brothers actually were all killed so the government believes that they should save at least one person from the family and saving means actually removing from the the front if you if re if you remember the plot so in fact this guy the private ryan is not at all the main actor the the main a well the main character is played by tom hanks and it is actually you can see his picture on the 2nd page of my my notes captain john miller so he is sent with this rather strange mission which is not a combat mission but they they want just to to get this guy back which is in fact this guy is i think behind enemy lines or something like this so it happens in in europe just after the the normandy landing and it is very very striking the way they they filmed all the the combat scenes and it is it is very dramatic it is it is not you know like in the movies from the 50s or the 60s where people just fall and die anonymously but here they well you see everything and you see how many people die on that day and you e up close and you enjoyed that the fact the you see clo i it is actually well it is very strange you could s ask this for any sad movie did you enjoy it well i did not really enjoy to see bad things but i think it was satisfying to see that well how dramatic things are to realize how it wa how it was exactly yeah yeah exactly yeah i it is very moving i it is true it is not very it is not very well happy i do not know how it would compare with apocalypse now if it is darker or maybe it is very different i do not think you can compare them yeah it is very different yeah yeah so yeah so i think this would continue a bit our our theme so the the movie is ranked quite high if i if i refer back to your table it is number what actually 14 quite a lot of votes so also one of the the mainstream movies on the 2nd page of my notes i well i quoted some well some facts about the movie that i found interesting we we could use them for either a poster or or a presentation especially i enjoyed the story about the the color saturation it is true that the movie is not really black and white but the colors are gray ish dark ish it it prov it makes a very moving effect to make it like an historical movie or yeah i think also to show the yeah i think it is the reference to history and also this dark yeah the mood and things are actually well most of the things are quite gray also sets the mood a little bit yeah darker and you know the uniforms weapons things and things like that yeah but you would get a different impression if you had bright blue sky and bright sunshine behind it exactly but if i read your 1st point in the in this trivias i am just surprised because it says that all the principle actors underwent several days of cruel army training except for the man matt damon and the reason was that they wan that the that the director wanted that the other actors would resent him why this was wanted actually well i think matt damon is the guy who must be saved if i remember well and in fact the die yeah yeah he is private ryan and they did not like it they did not like the mission well yeah the people did not understand why they should save one person well they are being sent to the front behind enemy lines to retrieve one soldier only because all of his other brothers died 0 so and they are quite resentful because they i mean they feel they should fight they should not just go there and just get someone and get back yeah and it okay and in fact some of them d get killed for this guy most of them get killed do not they yes actually most of them yeah i think so most of them yeah so there is actually several people dying because of one single single soldier so yeah yeah yeah yeah it is a very i think some people compare it with whatever christian message or i dunno but i think it is quite quite universal and it is i think it is a modern very modern what kind of message sorry i am not getting your well this value of one individual it looks like a christian message you know the value of one is compared to others i i do not know i th i think i heard this at that point but maybe i am just wrong okay so yeah i i think it would make a coherent choice it is probably a bit long and we might want something that is lighter and funnier but if we want to keep this this idea of history and conflict and also to show some some kind of modern treatment of it it it would make for a good choice but if you see in my notes at the bottom of the 1st page i put some other candidate movies la vita e bella is an italian one but it is also about history and it happens at t the same period as schindler is list and i also quoted pulp fiction and silence of the lambs a bit more remote from the themes but quite well known movies and enjoyable i would say so do you have any questions about this or should we just move to the next candidate maybe yep or or we have you have okay i have no comments no no it is okay so actually i do not know if y any of you have read the document i prepared on the big lebowski it is just below the table so since we all refer to the table it is below the table yeah yeah but i really appreciate your table because i found this table really useful i wanted it is a very nice summary yeah yeah yeah i wanted to say that it is quite open there are many choices possible but then my proposal is the big lebowski from the 2 brothers coen coen brothers and it is a actually joel co coen who directed the movie the plot is quite hard to to make but maybe you you read it al already you understood something from the plot or yeah i tried to yeah no i think the summary is i is quite good and especially i think it well when you read it you just want to go to see the movie i am i think it looks funny for me i have not seen the movie but the summary looks funny yeah it is it is it is a bit like the f in my opinion like american beauty because it is it is a funny movie but it critiques a lot the american society and the the the hero the the dude the big lebowksi it is actually his name is a a kind of non hero but he is representative of the of a normal l a l a guy and he has a friend comi veter veteran from vietnam and another friend who is never speaking and they all are together in a bowling club where they meet and they discuss about everything they seems to have no job i not know we never seen i them working so doing nothing just take it easy in the life yeah yeah and actually he is taking part to a kind of s some some killers come to his apartment because they think he is someone else and the whole story is about he wants to to to get some money out of this story and he is going to see the other lebowski to ask him money because he he because the killers actually damage some stuff in his apartment actually who are the 2 characters on the the p the poster on the on the image that it is jeff bridges and john goodman john goodman you have probably seen him in in a series huh and w and which one is the big lebowski on the picture on the right the guy on the right jeff bridges okay so the guy with the glasses and the one on the left is his friend or is that the other lebowski yeah he is the one coming from from vietnam the vietnam guy 0 okay aha yeah he is kind of he is still equipped for for war okay so but this movie is is supposed to happen in what time i mean it is it is f a movie from the 90s actually yep which ca from the 90s and he is still still prepared from or or still as he he would come from the vietnam yep yeah yeah that is a problem okay i am going to actually i want to show you some posters i prepared for this movie so we actually can discuss at the same time the poster design there i well sort of 0 so on the left you see the main characters of the movie so the the hero at the top left then it is the guy coming back from vietnam afterward it is a guy who john turturro they are competing with him on a bowling contest and julianne moore and the last one is buscemi or something like that buscemi yeah buscemi he is never speaking in the movie really each time he is trying to speak the other one are are stopping him 0 so it is qu and this one is supposed to be the 2nd lebowski or who no he is not on the on the picture the 2nd lebowski okay okay so my proposition was to add the title of course some information abo about the pricing on the right yeah you cannot read it very well because yeah but when it will be printed it will be okay i think but actually i am i am little bit missing th some information about our movie club i think there should be some more information ah you mean okay so i prepared a 2nd one where th th th there is there is some information at the bottom we can see that do you know mondre montreux english movie club yeah i like this i said that people can contact us to to get to the committee and select movies yeah huh so i think it looks too much like a c d cover though yeah the text on this one is very good okay 0 because it is square i like the layout of the 1st one and the content of this one huh so perhaps we can somehow combine them but there is a th there is a 3rd one actually i i prefer it because it is more colorful also it looks like 2 different posters though yeah i do not like the black one the f the 1st poster is i think much much too dark i think there is too many colors too many colors no that is nice nowadays you know if you see some advertisements on the s yeah but nowadays if you see some advertisement on the on the street but it is it can catch the eyes actually but yeah this is typical typical poster i would not would not look at it is hard to read yeah but then the problem i preferred the 1st one because i think it is important to have the plot of movie e especially for a movie people do not n never heard about it but i do not know yeah maybe 2 or 3 sentences because i guess they will not stop in front of the poster okay the paragraph i think was a little bit long okay so what do you propose what should i do for these posters yep in terms of content so layout of the 1st one i would and content of the 2nd one and colors of the 3rd one okay i will try to do something but 1st anyway we have to select a movie so i will put all the information and you want me to put the at the bottom all the information about the committee and the the montreux club okay yeah yeah exactly yeah like what you have there okay and then maybe replace the paragraph that you had on the 1st poster with either shorter sort of descriptions okay not even of the whole plot but just descriptions of the movie or cause i think that paragraph is too long okay people do not r generally just stand there and then read the whole thing okay so just to conti to finish with the big lebowski it is i think those 2 images are pretty representative so the on the 1st on on the top you see the hero with a a cowboy that i introduces the movie and on the bottom it is he is he keeps dreaming in th in this movie because the killer is put it d put it or he is drinking too much also 0 okay so each time he is drinking he is having some dreams very very weird but interesting so the woman on the 2nd picture that is julianne moore or 0 yep yeah yeah actually she wants him to she wants to make kids and she is using the big lebowski to have kids with him but he does not know so maybe he is making strange ah interesting okay so it is not really violent or i mean the movie is quite for general audiences yeah yeah it is very very sweet and it is like a it is like a dream actually okay okay how is it actually r ranked because i cannot see it here in your table huh it is no it is on in the table actually i somehow can not find it it is it is coming at the end it is here 48 48 ah 48 but quite a lot of people have seen it actually yeah 50000 well at least voted for it yeah voted yeah i hope more people have seen it yeah but generally you vote when you have seen the movie no okay so i think we should decide for a movie now yeah so maybe each of us can s can select 2 movies or yeah let us nominate 1st let us nominate okay okay and then we vote we choose from the list so i will take basically 2 extremes i will take schindler is list and i will take the big lebowski one of the one of them is really just funny and from the 90s i mean the story is from the 90s while the 2nd one is about the 2nd war and is serious well i will nominate the one i proposed saving private ryan so history war drem drama and i have not seen it but i would like to see it and i think american beauty if you if you think that our series okay it is not about america but still apocalypse well yeah it is about countries so agnes denis i would go for 6th sense just because it is different from all the other ones and maybe shawshank redemption just because we have not seen it so denis are you happy with our choices or would you like to add something no actually i am happy with the choices because i really i would really push american beauty because i think it is it is an easy movie to watch and and still there are a lot of things to think afterward and it is representative of the 90s i think okay yeah so what if we voted say like for 1st and 2nd choice and then we count you can give 2 points to one and one point to another one okay would you like this strange way to vote yeah okay that is okay start andrei okay so no i do not want to finish i think i am going to 0 yeah well it is well if i nominated 2 and i was the only one i will give 2 points to saving private ryan and one to american beauty okay you do not want to finish denis yeah but then each of us will will but then each of us will vote for our nominees no then you would better hurry so i would propose to to to vote for s sun to to give the points to the to the movies that were not nominated by you okay okay yeah maybe it makes more sense yeah okay so then it is it is more complicated but yeah okay let us that makes the vote more complicated okay so i will give b okay okay 2 to the 6th sense and one to the big lebowski 6th sense okay me i put 2 to american beauty and one to saving private ryan okay kay i note that you did not nominate a film so you are sort of freer than us so i will seconds agnes no big lebowski i nominate okay 0 i will give 2 to american beauty and one to the big lebowski okay and i wi i will give one to the big lebowski and 2 to the shawshank redemption okay so it is pretty clear so now try to sum it up american beauty 4 big lebowski 3 american beauty so do we have something american beauty 3 so you have to redo the posters yeah that is the only thing that is worrying me but it should be okay well you can keep the format i mean th you did not have that many graphics in the 1st one yeah yeah so you select you wanted actually me to select the this design that takes a bit more time but if you c if all of you can send me one image i can make something on the left you mean the 1st poster yeah yeah okay select one image from the movie and but i would say these images are very nice and they are really representative perhaps maybe you can leave those yes but of the wrong movie with a different title okay that is the real twist no but i will make something i am yeah sure sorry sorry 0 leave julianne moore julianne moore actually i was sleepi sleeping for a while she is playing in the no no she is not in american beauty no it is who is it annette bening who is the m the main character the well the main female character the mother ah okay okay we s okay i am looking forward to seeing it i have not see it so we still have to decide for next meeting and we are all set when do you want these images by just quickly by monday next monday day after tomorrow so we have to select the movie for may it should be from this period because 90s i think we can meet at the same period would be finished 2000s so we will try a movie from the 2000s 2000 and we can meet at the beginning of may yeah yeah so i think monday is 2nd no no monday is 3rd already 3rd is not it whatever monday may 3rd whatever 1st monday of may okay 1st monday of may yeah so it is after the projection and we will see what are the reactions of the people and so it makes sense that we are yes yes yes yep yeah how many people we got and we can ask people casually sort of what genre of movie they want or and perhaps we will have some new members but then in june what are we going to do in june because we cannot make movies from 102000 start again maybe some kind of movies that spans across periods or go back to the 50s yeah i think there is a godard with a lot of quotations from other movies or well let us see when we yeah maybe let us cross the bridge when we get to it okay okay thank you thanks see you april ni 20 ninth american beauty so what is the movie again american beauty okay american beauty finally thank you okay
okay okay do not change everything all right okay no no it is okay because it is better on my notes that is just that i need some paper are you going to take the minutes yes yep so hello everybody hello hello so you everybody has the agenda for today you received it i do not do you have an extra copy yep thanks so the goal for today is to do today is to decide for a movie to project at the end of the month so for this month of april and also discuss the content for advertising posters and i will present you 3 different designs will discuss it so 1st we have to decide for a movie so i think we all prepared documents yes i did so i propose that we start with the presentation agnes sure okay so the previous movies that we have done this year were lawrence of arabia apocalypse now and amadeus which were all historical serious dramatic and somewhat actiony movies so for this month i would propose doing something different preferably something set in the present something maybe dramatic but slightly less serious so what i would propose is actually a thriller in mystery and while these days people are so jaded by general movies that they tend not to be surprised by the endings and mysteries some movies in the 90s did actually have twists that people came out saying i never saw that coming i did not know that that was going to happen and so what i am going to do is present you to those movies and before anyone says that well if you know how the movie ends you are not going to want to see it again that is not necessarily the case because a lot of people like to rewatch movies to see where the clues were what they missed things they did not pay attention to the 1st time around so if you can go to the next slide what i would propose is either the usual suspects or the 6th sense the usual suspects is slightly less mainstream has a fairly large cast notably kevin spacey gabriel byrne and it was directed by brian singer it is one of his earlier movies i think it was written by christopher mccuary and according to rolling stone it is the freshest funniest and scariest crime thriller to come along since pulp fiction the 6th sense on the other hand is a more commercial movie with its famous line i see dead people it was written and directed by m knight shemailan and stars bruce willis haley joel osmond and tony collette and it is about a little boy who sees dead people and he sees a child psychologist to try to get him to understand why he sees the dead and actually the psychologist is dead now that you have given away the twist yes no but where the cloppers agnes i was just wondering i see i have here denise table and when they say that it is the freshest whatever since pulp fiction well that is probably not a very long time because spell fiction is 94 and usual suspects is 95 send your complaints to rolling stone so on the next couple of slides i will just go through some of more detailed stuff that we might need for administrative purposes the length for the usual suspects is 105 minutes as you can well as andre already said it is 1995 it has an r rating which means that at least in the in north america it was not recommended for people under 18 because it is fairly violent but not so violent as other movies plot outline 5 villains in new york are rounded up by the police in an unconventional manner that worries them after release they get together for a spot of revenge but someone else is controlling events and the big mystery of the movie is who is controlling the events it got an 87 out of 10 user rating on the internet movie database it is 16th in the top 250 movies of all time 4th in denise list of the top movies of the 1990s which i think was also taken from imdb it won several academy awards including best supporting actor and best writing best film for the british equivalent of the academy awards it was nominated for cesar for best foreign film so it got a fair bit of recognition despite not being a very mainstream high budget movie or maybe because it was not a mainstream high budget movie so what will be your argument for projecting this movie i do not think a lot of people have seen it in fact other than i have not seen it i have not seen it you have not seen it you have not seen it and do not think a lot of people have seen it it is not a very very well known movie what it is very well known is it yeah it is really it is really i think yeah it is one of the most well known thrill really that surprised with me i always got the impression that it is hard to tell so that is your impression that is my impression but it is it is rated for 4th in the list how many people 100000 yeah that is true seen it 100000 voted for it voted for it voted for it yeah voted for it and i think only 2 other move and of 3 other movies have have more votes more votes yeah it seems to be quite popular but i think the main thing is it has got a good twist at the end and it is an interesting movie to watch okay so if you go to the next slide more or less the same thing for the 6th sense it is slightly newer in 1999 more or less the same amount of time it has a lower rating because it is less violent but it depends what audience we are going to have is not violent at all in fact or it is more like scary it is scary and i think it has some sort of slight violence but it means but the kid is seeing dead people i mean is yeah but they are not violently no but it is quite more bad it is scary and it is creepy but it is not creepy violent as in people being sliced in half or anything like that it is 19th in the top movies of the 90s 101st in the top 250 it was nominated for a lot of awards it did not win as many might have won more sort of minor awards but at least the academy awards it was nominated for 5 of them but did not win nevertheless still a good movie still a good twist at the end which duny already gave away they do not remember good so those would be my 2 choices yeah okay so what was your criteria for selecting this movie it is a sort of different style from the other movies we have seen and they have a twist so it is not your general movie where you just kind of sit through it and go okay get up and leave it is at least out of those 2 movies i came out thinking 0 cool at the end it becomes a good movie yeah but i mean that is a good thing right only because of the end i have heard some people in the theater saying 0 now i have to see it again yeah which is a good marketing flaw if you think about it if you ask them 5 minutes ago okay so is bruce willis the child psychologist yeah bruce willis is child and the kid is really good  who plays the main character it is the guy who then played in artificial intelligence or something like this same guy okay so i think mirik you prepared a presentation or so yeah we can have a look so my presentation is not that detailed i just put there 7 highly ranked movies and we can just try to go very quickly through all of them just to remind you them and then we can perhaps consider them as a potential candidates sorry it is control l okay so the movies that i have selected as a very good good ranked movies are on the screen so the shoshank redemption schindler is list usual suspects pulp fiction goodfellas signs of the lamps and the american beauty so perhaps we can go to the 1st movie the shoshank redemption actually i did not see that movie so is there someone else who have seen this movie me neither i have heard a lot of really good things about it i have seen it but i do not remember it i was told that in french it was called les evade okay the plot outline says that the life of andy different okay of andy changes when he is convinced and jailed for the mother of his wife and the user command says it is simply amazing the best film of the 90s so that is what it says okay we cannot tell much more because basically none of us should we believe is very good then yeah so the 2nd one is a schindler is list is more serious movie it is from the steven spielberg and it is about the 2nd world war the plot outline is that the oscar schindler uses jews to start a factory in poland during the war and he witnesses the horrors endured by the jews and starts to save them user comment says a film for all to see and learn and i think it is really something what is very serious team so that is a schindler is list we can perhaps do you have some comments i have seen it i think it is a really good movie it is quite long actually here i did not put the minutes yeah i think it is about 3 hours long something like that at least about 3 hours and it is a heavy movie it is emotional it is yeah you know if it received some award no i do not know i do not know i think it did yeah i think it is on that either for director if not for best picture yeah maybe even best picture but i would expect it i would expect it okay so if you can go to the but yeah indeed it is maybe too sad and to well it is a true story also it is a true story yeah it is well i would say that the user comments as everything a film to see and to learn and to remember maybe and to remember as well yeah okay so the 3rd one is the usual suspect so i think i would not i do not want to comment it again so we can just skip that because this is the one already commented by agnes so let us go to the other one pul fiction i would say that is like a classical movies of of 90s it is directed by quentin tarantino it is a crime and drama there are several stories that are just mixed up during the movie and yeah it is really a classical movie i would say almost nowadays so who has seen it yeah i have seen it yeah i have seen it too yeah it is very good it is a bit violent but it is also quite funny i think sure sure you can see it several times because i mean the 1st time you cannot catch all the details and then when you see 2nd times and 3rd times it is the comeback from of john travolta no yeah yeah yeah that was his comeback movie big comeback of john travolta yes yes yeah yeah he is there also yes yeah yeah he is there else 0 the boxer sorry yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and what is the name of the girl on the poster umma there yes okay so that is pulp fiction definitely should be considered so on the list i brought on my document the 2 movies pulp fiction and usual suspect are just swapped pulp fiction is actually coming before the usual suspect maybe because imbd is updated daily that may be so if it happens that people had voted for it yeah because i have did this review on wednesday me to choose it is quite surprising though yeah it is strange with so many votes that they can shift i mean statistically speaking it is strange goodfellas i have not seen that movie the plot outlined says that henry hill and his friends work their way they were up through the mob hierarchy and the user command says it is simply a masterpiece and if you go to the votes there is quite a lot of people who has vote for the goodfellas 66000 okay it is still more than the average so it is perhaps not a bad movie i do not know actually i have seen it now i realize yeah now because i thought it was like another movie but it is this movie it is this movie actually and how was it called mafia les afranchi in french i think it is that one but it is very violent very it does not say here but it is probably rated r yeah i would not be surprised so it talks about the 1920s or something of 20s no it is later than that it speaks about a guy who is not italian who is going up in the hierarchy of mafia okay okay so not really in favor of this but the mob so the mob is the mafia actually yeah okay silence of the lamps that is a good father of old thrillers i would say fully in line with the user comments basically it is a thriller horror and crime all together the plot outline says that clarice starling the young fbi agent is assigned to help find a missing woman and save her from the psychopathic killer with the help of another killer this another killer is actually in a jail and it is anthony hopkins and he really plays it very good i would say i am not sure whether he received some efforts for that but it is really it is i do not know but it was a good performance yes very good performance very good and judy foster is very good as well yeah and we can see her actually on the picture on the on the projector she was pretty young no yeah i think yeah when yeah i saw this movie some time ago and yeah she looked quite young from when did it come out 91 91 so nowadays she is already 14 years older yep as are we all yeah and i saw this movie when i was like 12 or 13 and it was really bad experience so i can not remember all the details of that movie but i would like to see it again i do not think i have seen it since then i recently i saw the hannibal the 2nd it was a 3rd part actually it was called honeybala i guess a 2nd one it was a 2nd one yeah so that is why but not that good no it was not that good but i think it was almost more disgusting in a way it was really disgusting yeah there were some scenes in it where normally i do not get queasy watching movies but that was just too much okay what is your opinion you have seen it 0 yeah i have seen it yeah it is a good movie i i do not know maybe too well known but since it is 15 years old maybe to violence yeah for i do not know violent and scary as well yeah psychopathic i mean it is okay and last choice and the last choice that i think it is not a bad movie it is american beauty that is a good movie yeah that is a good one it is basically about the people in america each of them is i would say psychotic in a history his own way but normally they appear to be normal people as we can see them every day and it is really the user command says it is a deep wonderful penetrating film extraordinary irony in a psychological drama about american life and i can fully agree with this user comment and kevin spacey it is no kevin spacey you received something no quite possibly yeah he is actually quitting his job at the beginning but he is simulating a fight with his boss in order to pursue he is simulated i have seen this movie but i yeah i think yeah to sue him afterward and then he fell in love with the friend of his daughter if i remember well yeah that is really that is the girl who is represented on the picture maybe yeah theoretically yeah you recognize her belly no there is this rose because she is imagining her taking baths with roses all around yeah yeah yeah 0 so you recognize the rose exactly yeah okay and i think that is the last what will be your favorite your preferred one in this list if we would like to go for something what is release series i would definitely go for schindler is list and if not then i would like to see this shoshank redemption because it received me yeah probably yeah he received none of us in this movie unfortunately but as you can see from the from your from your table there is a plenty of votes yeah it is actually i think it is a movie with the highest number of the votes yeah yeah that is true and it is tim robbins and with the morgan freeman morgan freeman yeah yeah great actors i mean i see this name of the director on the slide but i do not really know him frank darabon me neither never heard of this guy yeah but really i would like to highlight that it is a movie with the highest number of the votes and the highest ranking at the same time yeah okay yeah it tells something okay it is just the way we want to display the most popular movie play the most popular movie or 0 yeah yeah not sure and actually i think it is it is it is that popular in europe at least because i really you see none of us have seen it that is right yeah yeah maybe but it is true yeah we should not stick to only very highly rated movies on this table though it is a very useful table but okay do you want yeah can you comment your so yeah i wrote some notes on on saving private ryan which my candidate if you can display them it is perfect do you all have a copy of them i do i have some paper yeah yeah thank you you are welcome so actually given that more or less our theme since the beginning of the year was history drama action and given also that well we decided to to present this month a movie from the the 90s i thought that among these movies who look quite popular saving private ryan would be a very good candidate actually it is a movie i have seen have you seen it before yeah okay so you have all seen it so maybe everyone has seen it i am not very sure but i think it is a very novel treatment of war it is no longer the glorification of whatever combat and victory but the plot is quite different it is about saving one person who has a special value in the movie if only because his brothers actually were all killed so the government believes that they should save at least one person from the family and saving means actually removing from the front if you remember the plot so in fact this guy the private ryan is not at all the main actor the main character is played by tom hanks and it is actually you can see his picture on the 2nd page of my notes captain john miller so he is sent with this rather strange mission which is not a combat mission but they they want just to get this guy back which is in fact this guy is i think behind enemy lines or something like this so it happens in in europe just after the normandy landing and it is very very striking the way they they filmed all the combat scenes and it is it is very dramatic it is it is not you know like in a movie from the 50s or the 60s where people just fall and die anonymously but here they well you see everything and you see how many people die on the day and you enjoyed that the fact that you see close well it is very strange you could ask this for any sad movie did you enjoy it well i did not really enjoy to see bad things but i think it was satisfying to see that well how to realize how it was exactly yeah it is very moving it is true it is not very it is not very well happy i do not know how it would compare with apocalypse now if it is darker or maybe it is very different i do not think you can not compare them yeah so yeah so i think this would continue a bit our theme so the the movie is ranked quite high if i if i refer back to your table it is number what actually 14 quite a lot of votes so i am also one of the the mainstream movies on the 2nd page of my notes while i quoted some facts about the movie that i found interesting we could use them for either a poster or a presentation especially i enjoyed the story about the color saturation it is true that the movie is not really black and white but the colors are grayish darkish it makes a very moving effect to make it like a an historical movie or yeah i think also to show the yeah i think it is the reference to history and also this dark yeah the mood and darker and things are actually well most of the things are quite gray you know the uniforms weapons yeah but you would get a different impression if you had bright blue sky and bright sunshine behind it exactly but if i read your 1st point in the in this trivias i am just surprised because it says that all the principal actors underwent several days of cruel army training except for the matt damon and the reason was that the director wanted that the other actors would resent him why this was wanted actually well i think matt damon is the guy who must be saved i remember well and they did not like the die well yeah the people did not understand why they should save one person they are being sent to the front behind enemy lines to retrieve one soldier only because all of his other brothers died so and they are quite resentful because they i mean they feel they should fight they should not just go there and just get someone and get back in fact some of them did get killed for this guy most of them get killed actually most of them yeah i think so there is actually several people dying because of one single soldier yeah yeah it is a very i think some people are compared it with a whatever christian message or i do not know but i think it is quite quite universal and it is a i think it is a modern very modern what kind of message sorry i am not getting you well this value of one individual it looks like a christian message you know the value of one soul as compared to others i do not know i think i heard this at that point but maybe i am just wrong so yeah i think it would make a coherent choice it is probably a bit long and we might want something that is lighter and funnier but if we want to keep this idea of history and conflict and also to show some kind of modern treatment of it it would make for a good choice but if you see in my notes at the bottom of the 1st page i put some other candidate movies la vita bella is an italian one but it is also about history and it happens at the same period as cyndler is list and i also quoted pulp fiction and silence of the lambs a bit more remote from the themes but quite well known movies and enjoyable i would say so do you have any questions about this or should we just move to the next candidate maybe yeah okay i have no comments no no okay so actually i do not know if any of you have read the document i prepared on the big lebowski it is just below the table it is below the table i really appreciate your table because i found this table really useful yeah i wanted to say that it is quite open there are many choices possible but then my proposal is the big lebowski from the 2 brothers cohen brothers and it is actually joel cohen who directed the movie the plot is quite hard to make but maybe you read it or you understood something from the plot or try to yeah i think the summary is is quite good and especially i think it well when you read it you just want to go to see the movie i think it looks funny for me i have not seen the movie but yeah it is it is a bit like in my opinion like american beauty because it is it is a funny movie but it critiques a lot the american society and the the the hero the dude the big lebowski it is actually his name is a kind of non hero but he is representative of the normal l a guy and he has a friend a veteran from vietnam and another friend who is never speaking and they all are together in a bowling club where they meet and they discuss about everything they seem to have no job i do not know we never seen them working so do you think just take it easy in the life and actually he is taking part to a kind of some killers come to his apartment because they think he is someone else and the whole story is about he wants to get some money out of this story and he is going to see the other leibovsky to ask him money because he because the killers actually damaged some stuff in his apartment actually who are the 2 characters on the poster it is jeff bridges and john goodman john goodman you have probably seen him in a series no and which one is the big lebowski on the picture on the right okay so the guy was the glass jeff bridges and the one on the left is his friend or is that the other he is the one coming from vietnam the vietnam he is still the team for war okay so this movie is supposed to happen in what time i mean it is a it is a movie from the 90s actually he is still he is still prepared from or still still worked as he would come from the vietnam yep yeah yeah okay that is the problem i am going to actually i want to show you some posters i prepared for this movie so we can actually discuss at the same time the poster design so on the left you see the main characters of the movie so the hero at the top left then it is the guy coming back from vietnam afterward it is a guy john torturo they are competing with him on a bowling contest and julianne moore and the last one is buccini or something like that bouchimi he is never speaking in the movie each time he is trying to speak the other one are stopping in and this one is supposed to be the 2nd lebowski no he is not on the picture the 2nd lebowski so my proposition was to add the title of course some information about the pricing on the right yeah you cannot read it very well yeah but when it will be printed it will be okay i think but actually i am a little bit missing some information about our movie club i think there should be some more information okay so i prepare the 2nd one where there there is some information at the bottom we can see that do you know montre english movie club and i said that people can contact us to to get part to the committee and select movies yeah yeah the text on this one is very good okay 0 because it is square i like the layout of the 1st one the content of this one so perhaps we can somehow combine them there is a 3rd one actually i prefer it because it is more colorful it looks like 2 different posters the 1st poster is i think much too dark i think there is too many colors that is nice nowadays you know if you see some advertisements and catch the eyes actually yeah but nowadays if you see some advertisement on the on the street this is typical typical poster i would not i would not but then the problem i prefer the 1st one because i think it is important to have the plot of the movie especially for a movie people do not never heard about it yeah maybe 2 or 3 sentences because i guess they will not stop in front of the poster yeah okay so what do you propose what should i do for these posters in terms of content so layout of the 1st one and content of the 2nd one and colors of the 3rd one okay i will try to do something but 1st anyway we have to select a movie so i put all the information and you want me to put at the bottom all the information about the committee and the yeah like what you have there okay okay and then maybe replace the paragraph that you had on the 1st poster okay with either shorter sort of descriptions not even of the whole plot but just descriptions of the movie are i think that paragraph is too long people do not generally just stand there and then read the whole thing okay so just to finish with the big lebovsky i think those 2 images are pretty representative so on the 1st on the top you see the hero with a cowboy that introduces the movie and on the bottom it keeps dreaming in this movie because the killers put it in the or he is drinking too much also each time he is drinking he is having some dreams very very weird but interesting so the woman on the 2nd picture that is julian moore yeah yeah yeah actually she wants him to she wants to make kids and she is using the big leibovsky to have kids with him but he does not know so maybe he is making strange okay so it is not really violent or i mean the movie is quite for general audiences yeah yeah it is very very sweet and it is like a dream how is it actually ranked because i cannot see it here in your table no it is in the table actually it is coming at the end it is here 48 48 ah 48 but quite a lot of people have seen it actually yeah 50000 well at least voted for it yeah vote more people have seen it yeah but generally you vote when you have seen the movie you know okay so i have seen it i think we should decide for a movie now yeah so maybe each of us can select 2 movies or yeah let us nominate let us nominate okay and then we vote we choose from the list so i will take basically 2 extremes i will take schindler is list and i will take the big lebowski one of them is really just funny and from the 90s i mean even the story is from the 90s while the 2nd one is about the 2nd war and is serious well i will nominate the one i proposed saving private ryan so history war drama and i have not seen it but i would like to see it and i think american beauty if you think that our series okay it is not about america but still apocalypse well yeah no it is about countries so agnes i would go for ¢6 just because it is different from all the other ones and maybe shawshank redemption just because we have not seen it so duny are you happy with our choices or would you like to add something no actually i am happy with the choices because i really would really push american beauty because i think it is it is an easy movie to watch and still there are a lot of things to think afterward and it is representative of the 90s i think okay yeah so what if we voted say like for our 1st and 2nd choice and then we count you can give 2 points to one and one point to another one would you like this strange way to vote okay let us okay start andre i do not want to finish 0 yeah well if i nominated 2 and i was the only one i will give 2 points to saving private ryan and one to american beauty okay you do not want to finish yeah but then each of us will vote for our nominees so i would propose to vote for some to give the points to the movies that were not nominated by you okay yeah maybe it makes more then it is more complicated yeah okay let us okay so i will give okay 2 to the ¢6 and one to the big lebowski okay me i put 2 to american beauty and one to saving private ryan i know that you did not nominate a film so you are sort of a free hour than us 0 big lebowski i will give 2 to american beauty and and one to the big loboski okay and i will give one to the big lebowski and 2 to the big lebowski 2 to the shoshank redemption okay so it is pretty clear so now i will try to sum it up american beauty so do we have something american beauty 4 big lebowski 3 so you have to redo the poster yeah that is the only thing that is worrying me but it should be okay well you can keep the format i mean you did not have that many graphics in the 1st one so you selected you wanted actually me to select this design that takes some the 1st poster yeah if all of you can send me one image i can make something on the left select one image from the movie i would say these images are very nice and they are really representative perhaps maybe you can leave those with a different title that is the real twist yeah sure i make something sorry leave julian moore i was sleeping for a while julianne moore actually she is playing in the no she is not no american beauty no it is who is it annette benning okay who is the main character the main female character the mother okay i am looking forward to seeing it we still have to decide for next meeting and we will all set when do you want these images by just quickly by the day after tomorrow monday next monday so we have to select a movie for may it should be from this period because 19 i think we can meet at the same period 2000s so we will try a movie from the 2000s  and we can meet at the beginning of may yeah so i think monday is 2nd no monday is 3rd already whatever monday may 3rd whatever 1st monday of may so it is after the projection and we will see what are the reactions of the people and so it makes sense how many people we got we can ask people casually sort of what genre of movie they want but then in june what are we going to do in june because we cannot make movies from 10000 start again or go back to the 50s maybe some kind of movies that spans across periods i think there is a goddard with a lot of quotations from other movies well let us see when we let us cross the bridge when we get to it okay thank you thanks see you april what is the movie again american beauty american beauty finally okay i am going to be