hi everyone hope you had a nice lunch alright we are moving on to conceptual design scuse me bless you i will just review what we did in our last meeting under marketing we targeted our audience and yeah that was generally how helpful that was then we considered some design options with how it should look we discussed an ipod like button system which we have not concluded but we are right so if you all have presentations to do we can see what where you have come from our last time does everyone have presentations yeah yes okay yes would anybody like to go 1st sure okay so i have been looking at the components design mostly by consulting remote control diagrams from the internet and also by incorporating design ideas from the last project meeting so we need some custom design parts and other parts we will just use standard i assume we will be custom designing our case probably a hard plastic or some other material case to protect the remote and the locator and we will need to custom desi design a circuit board because the circuit board has to take the button input and send it to the output so you have to design that each time but once we come up with a design we will send it to the circuit people and they will just print it out standard parts include the buttons and the wheels the ipod style wheel the infrared l e d is actually going to be included in the circuit board that comes with it we need a radio sender and receiver those are standard and al we also need a beeper or buzzer or other sort of noise thing for locating the remote so we have some material options we can use rubber plastic wood or titanium i would recommend against titanium because it can only be used in the flat cases and it is really heavy and the rubber case requires rubber buttons so if we definitely want plastic buttons we should not have a rubber case and why not wood and and why not wood well we can use wood i do not know why we would want to and also we should note that if we want an ipod style wheel button it is going to require a m qu slightly more expensive chip we can not use the minimal chip we need the next higher grade which is called regular i do not think it is much more expensive but it is more expensive so that is what i have got on design is good can i do next cause i have to say something about the material yeah which is quite shocking ha right i have been searching the current trends both on the web and via fashion watchers and the findings are that the 1st thing to aim for is a fashion fancy look and feel next comes technologic technology and the innovations to do with that and th last thing is the easy to use factor fancy look and feel goes far beyond the functionality of the thing but i suppose that is included in in the ease of use our fashion watchers in milan and paris have decided well noticed that f the fruit and vegetable theme is the is the current trend and and therefore we need to go for that if we want you know wh whatever our motto is for fashion we go for fashion the fashion in electronics so we want to put the fashion electronics we need to go fruit and vegetables and also go for a spongy feel so the the question of our technology whate is industrial designer as to the material should be limited to i do not know how spongy it can be should discuss this together i do not know how spongy can be achieved but apparently that is the way to go i i have been thinking about this fruit and vegetable thing and i prefer fruits to vegetables but that is just a personal opinion i think i think people like to have a fruit instead of a vegetables in their sitting room those are just suggestions and also we need to decide whether this should be printed so that still has to do with the material discuss should we print the fruit stuff or should the actual remote look like a fruit and finally again with the spongy it has to be technologically innovative so maybe again our industrial designer should look into that or find come up with a solution that is better than mine yeah to summarize these are the points that need to be touched in order to get a good decision and hopefully our user interface has more to say about the matter thank you for your attention so i think it is the next it is the blue one yeah 0 there we go okay well so that fruit and vegetables thing huh i actually was not aware of the new trends in electronics and and neither was i well it is a trend in fashion in clothing and fabrics yeah but you are not going to wear your remote control so so okay let me get this right okay okay alright anyway here we go conceptual user interface trying we are going to try to talk about what kind of how people are actually going to be using this ipod ish remote control based on fruit vegetable design and basically so this is a touched ba a touch based graphical interface system so people are going to be looking at this little screen kind of i mean i assume are we still on the screen idea 0 we s had not discussed it last time cause if we are going to have to ha if we have this it just seems like in order to have someone going around and using the the wheel you need a screen for it you it seems like you would need a screen you need a screen with music because you are looking for a specific song like you know that band or whatever but like if you think about it yeah but if so is it just okay with t v channels it is you know 123 so so b you you are going to have to switch to like d v d and like other things like that are not you we are we are actually not having d v d that was one of th i i was sorry i i meant to update you on that are we yeah okay alright okay but the screen can come up on the telly the she said okay that correct okay yeah so anyway if well we just we need to okay so if we are not going to have a screen i think i was thinking okay so basically it is just going to be a wheel then and you are just going to i mean i think you are going to have to have some kind of a right graphical interface yeah like you are g yeah like you are going to have to be able to switch to like a mode where you can okay we are not choosing that i guess on the you can have it on the telly though yeah but like choose channel control like if you wa because people are not going to be able to have like you know channels 123456789 yeah so that people seems to be well you have yeah i know what you are saying you have to you know but you are going to have to scroll to get channels so i guess that is wh why i was thinking you may need to have some kind of a screen because so that people can go arou go back and forth and choose if or or then again if you just i guess i c i can see like some kind of a thing where like you sort of have like the number come up on the t v like what channel you are on yeah yeah yeah you can just scroll and you can just get to like 5 or like 12 or yeah yeah yeah but but imagine someone with s my flatmates actually had one with a wheel and it it did show up on the t v i 0 yeah but i what if you have satellite and you have like 200 channels then to get to channel 189 you have to cause you will have to like but you can quickly s you can yeah they have to r wheel really fast yeah but i think the wheel goes through like a 100 channels at least on theirs yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah if you do it w so it would have to be you i mean so you basically just kinda need to figure out like what kind of you know range we need to have on the wheel and so you are either you are you know th you are either doing this motion to like control the channels or like once once you stop that you know you can like tap for different yeah whatchamacallits different you know functions like volume or like you can tap just to get to different channels like if you just wanted to go to like from 5 to 6 you could tap or someth right and then there is also the concern about you know how do you get to the menu if you want to change the brightness of your television or if you want to you know switch around i do not know like these different modes like turn on the timer or like something something like that like yeah i mean with that many options you would i would think that the screen would be better because you could have that menu option sort of i would think so too like so i mean and it seems it w it does seem a little silly to have this screen if you hardly are ever using it you know because but then again it would it does make kind of if the screen is sort of just like an option that yeah like is just there and you are not really using it that is kind of m yeah yeah it is more expensive according to the design people yeah that is the only thing though you have to get a an advanced chip if you want to have a screen in which is more expensive than the regular chip which is more expensive than the minimal yeah so then basically it has to have some way to get to get to a mode on the television where you are doing you can get to you know you can like maybe it will be that central button that like yeah yeah yeah then you hit that and then you can it brings up like the menu on the t v and you can just scroll around yeah yeah so the t v is the screen that yeah like to do the timer to do the yeah yeah so it would have all these different options of changing yeah but the remote itself is not really cluttered up to look it even has settings okay on the you can just take theirs and just yeah yeah well we do not want the screen i guess but cause that just it does seem like it that would be like incredibly expensive yeah but i dunno and then so it just im really all you need is like this little wheel then and you can control everything so right what if i mean if you are thinking of the design of it now like the a you know physical attributes yeah and you just have this it is like just a long silver thing or whatever we are thinking i mean are you you going to have any buttons on that besides power and this thing or it does not seem that you would need anything besides pow i mean and the power button could even be like hold down the menu button for like longer than 12nd and it turns on the t v yeah so can we imagine that this would be smaller than the remote controls that you showed us before yeah i mean okay yeah definitely like i think we are looking at something that could be like like even maybe like a cir i am f i am seeing almost like a circular sort of like handheld like thing yeah but should be comfortable i mean it it needs to be easy to somehow it needs to be easy to like manipulate and use your yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean how do how do i am not really like when i use an ipod i end up just kind of using my index finger to like control it yeah i have seen some people just going like that with their thumb yeah so yeah yeah i use it like that or your thumb or something w when we had the wheely remote control we it was on the top i think if you held it like that so yeah yeah yeah yeah so but were there buttons on there as well yeah well it had the wheely thing and then it had those 18 different buttons that i do not know what they do yeah yeah so we just used the top part yeah yeah so but i mean i think it could be pretty small like i d i mean you you want it to be large enough that you can what if you had like a b a cover that went over buttons that you do not use very much like you so you could slide it up if you needed to like change the contrast or something like that so the options are there but they are not in interfering with the design and the practicality of it but can not you just get do do you know what i am talking about though yeah like yeah just something yeah like maybe something on the side where you slip a panel down and it has got a whole bunch of k well you can have it on the settings no yeah that you can flip over yeah yeah yeah but i mean do you need that if if you can get to you know if so long as you are able to bring up the menu on the t v screen yeah i mean i guess that is the thing is is if w i if we can do this that would probably be yeah that keeps it really yeah you would not i do not i just do not think you would even need it yeah yeah so so i guess we have to look into the like the programming how this how they actually program these things and if that is yeah mean 0 how they make the menu show up on the t v i mean you can do it you it is it does not seem that hard i do not know i mean it would y would that would be they already do it i believe it is ins it has got to be inside the t v not inside the remote i mean i have never bought a remote i am not sure it sounds like this remote is going to be purchased separately from the television which is a little well they usually are well my i have never bought just a remote like so i do not i do not really know no huh but i guess that is right it always comes with the t v so but i mean it is i have never had a hard time with like my remotes like bringing up the menu screen if you need to like change the date or whatever you know and i do not think that should that should be too hard yeah it most of the ones we have had have had the menu button cause it is not like you need to have a button access to like change the contrast or something yeah cause it just does not come up every day or something yeah well so so do we need i dunno well i guess we have to you know think about but i mean you just basically need the output signal you know to be able to bring it up yeah okay that is what it does anyway but also if you have it on the screen you can actually write everything out because the problem with buttons is you like they have these sort of abbreviations and codes that you are supposed to understand and i never get it yeah yeah yeah you do not know they mean yeah it is like yeah yeah never ever so so but 0 you mean if we have this screen like the ipod screen well on the telly or on the t v too on the telly okay yeah so yeah i think i mean i think i think the touch based graphical interface is a really cool idea because you know it is so obnoxious to like have to push those like okay now i hit this you know you have your little guide out and you are like hit this button twice like to activate the date and it is technologically innovative in a way so that fits with the yeah i guess and it is trendy the ipods are really hot right now so b yeah did you did you get that pc picture on did they provide you with that picture on the web yeah by web research yeah so that is quite interesting what are we going to do about this vegetable thing that i am dreading 0 god 0 i was going to say 0 you said people want spongy one of your one of the material options is a sort of rubber that is in like those stress ball things yeah yeah so that would be spongy 0 okay that would be cool yeah ah yeah yeah just nice feel but i hate spongy yeah c that is e that would be kind of 0 you know yeah usually like the touch pad things are kind of a hard plastic typ mouse type you know thing yeah but what if we ha what if we had like a spongy sort of like stress balley kinda so you are like i mean definitely the area round it yeah i think it could work or what if we integrated the the the f what if the whole thing about the fruit and vegetables we somehow made it tactilely fash you know yeah we c tapped into that so like it feels like do not think i would want it to feel like a banana well it could be like mobiles that just you just put a cover a vegetable an orange yeah if it is a small thing you c instead of creating an object for it that looks like a banana which frankly i am not particularly fond of you could just have covers and then your mobile f it is like a mobile phone thing you know you had there was a time when they had all these different covers for mobiles yeah yeah yeah you could do like the computers where they have like the grapefruit apple machine and they have like the blueberry like all the colors are named after fruits yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you could name it after fruits and vegetables or and it could the color can fit your sitting room so if you have red sitting room you can have strawberry and then if you have a green one you can have well i do not know yeah so what if what this is i am just forming this idea in my head of how this thing is looking so i think yeah colors if you have like that stress ball material kind of as what you are actually holding in your hand so like what you are feeling is comfortable and then there is more of a hard plastic thing where that thing is yeah yeah and on that hard plastic thing you can change either the color or the fruit or vegetable that is on there yeah is that kind of i cause i i am thinking of silver because those are our company colors yeah unfortunately they do not have silver fruits and vegetables i do i dunno i mean how are you how are you all envisioning by what we have just the feedback we have just got about the maybe a ball a ball know a squashy ball a relaxing squashy ball that you can p well i see you are thinking it is weird that is in the shape of a fruit like a you are thinking the opposite of me cause you are thinking you change the the hard bit and i am thinking how do you change the hard would you put a yeah sticker sort of because i was thinking if you have a cover for the squashy bit like a this is just okay 0 okay yeah say that is the s say that is the squashy bit squashy yeah i was thinking of getting a cover for that see i was thinking this s sorry i was thinking this bit here would be the cover and like that is your actual thing which is cheaper well i do not know if it is cheaper actually 0 yeah and like this you could have like you could have like cherries and things around there 0 i like that shape yeah but i was thinking sort of a single ball shape yeah i was thinking if it was like this cause the way you were describing the the ipod and the thi the roll thingy so you are holding a squishy ball and then it has a it is like it has to be s yeah it is almost like your thumb is farther up so if if you could squish it lower then yeah i guess so yeah yeah so it would not be very big in either like how big this big and then you just do that i suppose what if yeah what if the squishy 0 so so you are saying the squishy part is like detachable yeah i know what you meant yeah and you can so so maybe one you know you can have like the broccoli squishy thing and then you could have like the banana squishy thing and you could get you could have your choice you know well just a li i can not des like condom thingy like a a cover but well the question is which one is easiest to change and we can just contact our relevant department for that yeah and just see what the cost is for covering that or covering that yeah yeah yeah and for now we can do 2 prototypes maybe and then hi try and ask users what the best is and yeah okay yeah yeah no okay 0 that is nicer i think it is nicer to have a drawing cause it is neater yeah well that is not very neat but yeah i mean i think and i think the handhe i think the handheld part is definitely so you could make that into the fruit and vegetable part if it is a bit like those juggling balls you can change shape according to your to the way you hold it yeah you could squish it if it has got sand in it maybe or something you it it just molds to your hand yeah yeah so where are the fruit and vegetables now we we do not know fruits and veg i guess they would be either in the color of that plastic face on the front or in the color of the squishy thing underneath yeah yeah yeah yeah and the rest is the company the company color is silver it was yeah silver and yellow it l it looks like i do not we could promote the banana one okay yeah like i mean that is another question where are we going to we we should have the logo somewhere on it should also fit the batteries which we have not 0 yeah yeah i think the batteries would have to go right under the plastic case yeah th and that would that yeah okay especially if you are switching out the squishy part then you need to have the other part just be sort of a single unit that you can snap off yeah i think it would be interesting to have the b the squishy bit the part that you yeah can change into the different you know trendy vegetables and fruits but it well i dunno you would spend so much time like squishing it to your own personal hand then you would get a new one and you would have to do it all over again yeah no but it does it automatically does it automatically yeah i do not know i do not know what the rest of my notes mean because they were made for me okay but if someone components concept question mark energy question mark that was me was that you yes okay 0 right right yeah so what d but what do we know about energy i mean we are going to use batteries right we actually had an option of batteries solar power and a dynamo which is something i do not know what it is and something to do with torches 0 a dynamo is ah it is a bicycle it is a bicycle mechanism it is the en it is like if if something moves when it moves it stores energy 0 okay yeah the other one was the other one was a kinetic thing where you would basically have to wind it yourself so i sort of picked battery it is quite sweet we could have talked about doing a wind up or a dynamo or a solar power but i think solar power is not available with the rubber case anyways i think batteries sound good it it seems a little weird for a living room anyways the dynamo would be interesting what does everyone else think no but dynamo the the fact with dynamo is the moment you move it it c it creates energy on its own 0 what about kryptonite which is quite cool so if you throw it it is going to store loads of energy and you do not need to buy a battery cause they are quite f i find them annoying but we need to find cost yeah do not know the cost did not have enough data to actually does anyone have costs on the on the web all it said was it gave sort of relative some chips are more expensive than others sort of things it did not give me any actual cost okay right most of the stuff is pretty cheap though bought in bulk so i do not think it is that much of a problem like the chip is probably the most expensive part what does chip on print mean for things like remote controls they stamp out a chip calculators too i think huh so you can mass produce em pretty cheap okay but it is not like a computer you can not like reprogramme your remo remote controls it is like stamped onto the chip right so chip on print is just means like that they are mass produced yeah okay and case i guess that is what we have been talking about yeah case is what we were discussing yeah casing yeah thinking of like syntactic case and thi let us see is there anything else we need to talk about 0 when we move on you 2 are going to be playing with play dough and working on the look and feel of the design and user interface design and you are going to be doing protu product evaluation so you will get m more instructions from your personal coach 0 thank you cool see you soon does it matter that i end early i it is strange because how how early is it i did not get a pop up thing that said
i am going to thank you hi everyone hope you have a nice lunch all right we are moving on to conceptual design excuse me i will just review just review what we did in our last meeting under marketing we targeted our audience and yeah that was generally how helpful that was then we considered some design options with how it should look we discussed an ipod like button system which we have not concluded but right so if you all have presentations to do we can see what where you have come from our last does everyone have presentations yes thanks would anybody like to go 1st sure so i have been looking at the components design mostly by consulting remote control diagrams from the internet and also by incorporating design ideas from the last project meeting so we need some custom design parts and other parts we will just use standard i assume we will be custom designing our case probably a hard plastic or some other material case to protect the remote and the locator and we will need to custom design a circuit board because the circuit board has to take the button input and send it to the output so you have to design that each time but once we come up with a design we will send it to the circuit people and they will just print it out standard parts include the buttons and the wheels the ipod style wheel the infrared led is actually going to be included in the circuit board that comes with it we need a radio sender and receiver those are standard and we also need a beeper or buzzer or other sort of noise thing for locating the remote so we have some material options we can use rubber plastic wood or titanium i would recommend against titanium because it can only be used in the flat cases and it is really heavy and the rubber case requires rubber buttons so if we definitely want plastic buttons we should not have a rubber case and why not wood and why not wood well we can use wood i do not know why we would want to and also we should note that if we want an ipod style wheel button it is going to require a slightly more expensive chip we can not use the minimal chip we need the next higher grade which is called regular i do not think it is much more expensive but it is more expensive so that is what i have got on design it is good can i do next because i have to say something about the material yeah which is quite shocking right right i have been searching the current trends trends both on the web and via fashion watches and the findings are that the 1st thing to aim for is a fancy look and feel next comes technological technology and the innovations to do with that and the last thing is the easy to use factor fancy look and feel goes far beyond the functionality of the thing but i suppose that is included in the ease of use our fashion watchers in milan and paris have decided well notice that the fruit and vegetable theme is the current trend and therefore we need to go for that if we want whatever our motto is but fashion we go for fashion the fashion in electronic so we want to put the fashion electronics we need to go fruit and vegetables and also go for a spongy field so the question of our technology is industrial designer as to the material should be limited to i do not know how spongy can be should discuss this together i do not know how spongy can be achieved but apparently that is the way to go i have been thinking about this fruit and vegetable thing and i prefer fruits to vegetables but that is just a personal opinion i think people like to have a fruit instead of vegetables in the sitting room those are just suggestions and also we need to decide whether this should be printed so that still has to do the material discussion should we print the fruit stuff or should the actual remote look like a fruit and finally again with the spongy it has to be technologically innovative so maybe again our industrial designers should look into that or find come up with a solution that is better than mine yeah to summarize these are the points that need to be touched in order to get a good decision and hopefully our user interface has more to say about the matter thank you for your attention okay 0 so that food and vegetables thing huh i actually was not aware of the new trends and electronics and well it is the trend in fashion in clothing and yeah but you are not going to wear your remote control so okay let me get this right okay okay all right anyway here we go conceptual user interface trying to try to talk about what kind of how people are actually going to be using this ipodish remote control based on fruit vegetable design and basically so this is a touch based graphical interface system so people are going to be looking at this little screen kind of i mean i assume are we still on the screen idea we have not discussed that because if we are going to have to if we have this it just seems like in order to have someone going around and using the wheel you need a screen it seems like you would need a screen you need a screen with music because you are looking for a specific song like you know that band or whatever but like if you think about it with tv channels it is you know 123 yeah but if so is it just okay so you are going to have to switch to like dvd and like other things like that we are actually not having dvd that was one of i was sorry i am going to update you on that okay but the screen can come up on the telly okay okay so anyway well we just we need to okay so if we are not going to have a screen i think i was thinking okay so basically it is just going to be a wheel then you are just going to i mean i think you are going to have to have some kind of a yeah like you are you can have it on the telly though yeah like you are going to have to be able to switch to like a mode where you can okay well not choosing that i guess but like choose channel control like if you because people are not going to be able to have like you know channels 123456789 so that i people seem to be yeah you know but you are going to have to scroll to get channels so i guess that is what i was thinking you may need to have some kind of a screen because so that people can go around go back and forth and choose or then again if you just i guess i can see like some kind of a thing where like you sort of have like the number come up on the tv like what channel you are on you just scroll and you can just get to like 5 or like 12 or but imagine i had one with a wheel and it did show up on the tv 0 yeah but what if you have satellite and you have like 200 channels then to get the channel you will have to like you will have to you quickly you can but i think the wheel goes through like a 100 yeah at least on theirs yeah if you do so it will have to you i mean so we basically just kind of need to figure out like what kind of you know range we need to have on the wheel and so you are you know you are doing this motion to like control the channels or like once you stop that you know you can like tap for different what do you call it different you know functions like volume or like you can tap just to get to different channels like if you just wanted to go to like from 5 to 6 you could tap or something and then there is also the concern about you know how do you get to the menu if you want to change the brightness of your television or if you want to you know switch around i do not know like these different modes like turn on the timer or like something something like that i mean with that many options you would i would think that the screen would be better because i would think so to have that menu option so i mean and it seems it does seem a little silly to have this screen if you hardly are ever using it you know because but then again it does make kind of if the screen is sort of just like an option that like is just there and you are not really using it that is kind of it is more expensive according to the design people yeah that is the only thing though you have to get an advanced chip if you want to have a screen in which is more expensive than the regular chip which is more expensive than the yeah so then basically it has to have some way to get to a mode on the television where you are doing you can get to you know you can like maybe it will be that central button that like then you hit that and then you can it brings up like the menu on the tv and you can just scroll around so the tv is the timer to do that yeah yeah so it would have all these different options of changing but the remote itself is not really cluttered up  yeah well we do not want the screen i guess but because that just it does seem like it would be like incredibly expensive but i do not know and then so just really all you need is like this little wheel then you can control everything so what if i mean if you are thinking of the design of it now like the physical attributes yeah and you just have this and it is like just the long silver thing or whatever i mean are you going to have any buttons on that besides power in this thing it does not seem that you would need anything besides i mean in the power button could even be like hold down the menu button for like longer than 12nd and it turns on the tv so can we imagine that this would be smaller than the remote controls that you showed us before yeah yeah definitely i think we are looking at something that could be like even maybe like a i am seeing almost like a circular sort of like handheld like thing i mean it needs to be easy to somehow it needs to be easy to like manipulate and use your i mean how do how do i am not really like when i use an ipod i end up just kind of using my index finger to like control it yeah i have seen some people just kind of like that way yeah or your thumb or something when we had the wheelie remote control it was on the top i think and we held it like that yeah yeah so were there buttons on there as well yeah well it had the wheelie thing and then it had those 18 different buttons that i do not know what they do yeah so we just used the top part yeah so but i mean i think it could be pretty small like i mean you want it to be large enough that you can what if you had like a cover that went over buttons that you do not use very much like so you could slide it up up if you needed to change the contrast or something like that so the options are there but they are not interfering with the design and the practicality of it but can not you just get do you know what i am talking about though yeah like maybe something on the side where you can flip a panel down but i mean do you need that if you can get to you know so long as you are able to bring up the menu on the tv screen yeah i mean i guess that is the thing is if we can do this that is probably yeah you would not i do not i just do not think you would even need it yeah so so i guess we have to look into the like the programming how this how they actually program these things 0 how they make the menu show up on the tv i mean you can do i mean it would it is it does not sound that hard it is going to be inside the tv and outside the remote i mean i have never bought a remote it sounds like this remote is going to be purchased separately from the television well they usually are well my i have never never bought just a remote so i do not really know i guess that is right it almost comes with the tv so but i mean i have never had a hard time with like my remotes like bringing up the menu screen if you need to like change the date or whatever you know and i do not think that should be too hard yeah most of the ones we have had have had the menu button because it is not like you need to have a button access to like change the contrast or something yeah so it just did not come up every day or something yeah also do we need i do not know well i guess we have to think about but i mean you just basically need the output signal to be able to bring it up but also if you have it on the screen you can actually write everything out because the problem with buttons is like they have these sort of abbreviations and codes that you are supposed to understand but i never get it yeah so but you mean if we have this screen like the ipod screen or on the tele on the telly okay yeah so yeah i think i mean i think the touch based graphical interface is a really cool idea because you know it is so obnoxious to like have to push those like okay now i hit this you know you have your little guide out and hit this button twice and it is technologically innovative in a way so that fits with the and it is trendy the ipods are pretty hot right now so did you get that picture on did they provide you that picture yeah my web research yeah so what do we going to do about this vegetable thing 0 god 0 i was going to say you said people want spongy one of the material options is a sort of rubber that is not in like the stress ball things 0 okay that would be spongy yeah just nice feel that i think yeah that would be kind of you know usually like the touchpad things are kind of a hard plastic mouse type you know thing i mean definitely the area what if we had like a spongy sort of like stress balling kind of sort of like yeah i think it could work or what if we integrated the what if the whole thing about the fruit of vegetables we somehow made it tactilely you know tapped into that so like it feels like a vegetable well it could be like mobile is just you just put a cover yeah it is a small thing instead of creating an object for it that looks like a banana which you can not have covers and then your mobile it is like a mobile phone thing you know there was a time when they had all these different copies yeah you could do like the computers where they have like the grapefruit apple machine and they have like the blueberry like all the colors were named after fruits yeah you could name it after these specials and the color can fit your sitting room so if you have red sitting room you can have strawberry and then you have the green one you can have yeah so what if this is i am just forming this idea in my head of how this thing is looking if you have that stress ball material kind of as what you are actually holding in your hand so like what you are feeling is comfortable and then there is more of a hard plastic thing where that thing is yeah on that hard plastic thing you can change either the color or the fruit or vegetable that is on there yeah is that kind of because i am thinking silver because those are our company colors yeah unfortunately you do not have silver i do not know i mean how are you all envisioning by what we have just the feedback we have just got about the maybe a bowl a bowl no squashy ball a relaxing squashy ball that is in the shape of a fruit you can well i see you are thinking it is weird you are thinking the opposite of me you are thinking you change the hard bit yeah and i am thinking how do you change the hard would you put a sticker sort of because i was thinking if you have a cover for the squashy bit like this is just okay say that is the squashy bit yeah i was thinking of getting a cover for that see i was thinking this sorry i was thinking this bit here would be the cover and like that is your actual thing yeah and like this you could have like you can have like cherries and things around there things around there i was thinking it is sort of a single ball shape i was thinking if it was like this because the way you were describing the ipod and the roll thing it is like it has to be yeah it is almost like your thumb is further up so if you can squish it lower yeah so it would not be very big in either like how big this big and then you just did up yeah what if the squishy 0 so you are saying the squishy parts like the tachable and you can so maybe one you know you can have like the broccoli squishy thing and then you could have like the banana squishy thing and you could get you could have your choice you know just the i can not just like content but well the question is which one is easiest to change and we can just contact our relevant department for that yeah yeah yeah for now we can do 2 prototypes maybe and then yeah try and ask you as what best is yeah yeah that is nice i think it is nice to have a drawing because it is neater well that is not very neat yeah i mean i think the hand hild part is definitely so you could make that into the food and vegetable part if it is a bit like there is juggling balls you can change shape according to shape according to your to the way you hold it if it has got sand in it maybe or something you it just molds to your hand yeah so where the fruit and vegetables now i guess there would be either in the color of that plastic ace on the front or in the color of the squishy thing underneath yeah and the rest is the company it was yeah silver and yellow it looks like we could promote the banana one i mean that is another question where we are going to we should have the logo somewhere on it should also put the box and we switch around i think the batteries would have to go right under the plastic case yeah and that would especially if you are switching out the squishy part then you need to have the other part just be sort of a single unit that you can snap off yeah i think it would be interesting to have the squishy bit the part that you can change into the different you know trendy vegetables and fruits but well i know you spend so much time you are squishing it to your own personal hand you get a new one you would have to do it all over again yeah a bit automatic it is automatic i do not know what the rest of my notes mean because they were made for me but if someone components concept question mark energy question mark is that you yes all right right yeah so what but what do we know about energy i mean we are going to use batteries right we actually had an option of batteries solar power and a dynamo which is something i do not know what it is something to do with torches it is a bicycle it is a bicycle mechanism it is like if something moves when it moves yeah the other one was the other one was a kinetic thing where you basically have to wind it yourself so i sort of picked battery we could have talked about doing a windup or a dynamo or solar power but i think solar power is not available with a rubber case anyways i think batteries sound good it is a little weird the dynamo would be interesting the fact of dynamo is the moment you move it it creates energy on its own what about kryptonite so if you throw it it is going to store loads of energy and you do not need to buy a batter because i find them annoying but we need to find cost yeah i do not know it costs does anyone have costs on the all it said was it gave sort of relative some chips are more expensive than other sort of things it did not give me any actual cost okay but most of the stuff is pretty cheap though bought in bulk so it is so much of the problem like the chip is probably the most expensive part what does chip on print mean for things like remote controls they stamp out a chip calculated too i think so you can mass produce them pretty cheap but it is not like a computer you can not reprogram your remote control it is like stamped on for the chip so chip on print is just means like that yeah yeah okay and case i guess that is what we were talking about yeah case i am thinking of like syntactic case let us see is there anything else you need to talk about when we move on youtube are going to be playing with play doh and working on the look and feel of design and user interface design you are going to be doing product product evaluation so you will get more instructions from your personal coach cool see you soon does it matter that i end early it is strange how how how how early is it i did not get a pop up thing