okay all set welcome to the conceptual design meeting okay yes the agenda the opening i will again be the secretary and make minutes take minutes and it will be 3 presentations just like the last meeting so who wants to start off technical designer again again okay yeah before we begin it i want to say i have i have put the minutes of the 2nd meeting in the shared folder but they are still not quite okay it it still some technical difficulties so the the 1st part of the minutes are very hard to read because there are 2 documents that were layered over each other okay so but from now on i will not use my pen anymore so will be p just ordinary keyboard may be better yeah keyboard work i think it will yeah will be more easy for you to read the minutes yeah alright okay when we talk about components design it is really about the material and the and really the stuff we build the remote controls of a remote control consist of components and the components of a remote control consist of properties and material we have to choose th these wisely and it could affect a kind of grow of in in buying the remote controls the components of a remote control are of course the case the properties of the case it has to be solid in hard material like hard plastic with soft rubber for falling and and yeah it feels good in your hand the buttons has to be solid too and the material is soft rubber i have got a email from the possibilities of real reaction they are telling me that when we build a remote control of of plastic or rubber the buttons have to be rubber too it is okay yeah i when we use a rubbled a doubled curved case we must use a rubber push buttons to the the rubber double curved case is a is a t 3 dimensional curve in the in the design which is necessary when we want to be trendy 0 the energy source i have got a lot of possibilities for that too the basic battery which i thi prefer because of its its non non depending of of of here you have to have a hand yeah kinetic energy also in this one like in the watches but a remote control can lie on a table for a day and then you push a button and so you do not have to walk with it all the all the time solar cells are also a bit weird for remote controls also the case material i think that plastic is the is the best with rubber because wood or titanium would also be a bit weird 0 titanium is probably trendy i think that is true i guess yeah well maybe a little bit expensive i do not know huh they do not tell anything about the cost of titanium the chip the chip set and the board is all off the shelf also the speaker in the remote control when we want to retrieve it the base station is also off the shelf all the materials and the components are just available in in our factory i have told about the 31st points the simple electronical chip is is available with the led transmitter transmitter it is all off the shelf and even the speaker and the wireless retriever are all available in our company another possibility i yeah i looked up on was the l c d displays could be something special to our remote control and it is possible but it only cost a bit more but maybe it can be within the limits of €25 125 ah yeah actually yeah yeah production cost i th i got an email with some examples and it these were were the most trendiest one you see a covers which can be what are those t tooth brushes or so i do not know but it is actually kind of well it resembles the design i had in mind for this proj you know the the cartoonish alessi kind of design i yes yep yes maybe we can bri bring a couple of couple of types of maybe a kind of whole and we can we can steal their ideas a whole set of different remote controls maybe we can bring a whole line with huh with a huge variety of well it is a possibility too house stuff different colors also like maybe radios and television also in this in this in the same style but yeah that will be for the future i guess okay yeah yes because we have to we have to we have to bring the logo and all the stuff back into it next time we are here yeah 0 okay yeah definitely okay okay thank you alright yeah that is okay ah well i shall go to the next slide i still do not have any information about user requirements i was thinking about just the basic functions and i got 0 we decided upon that in the last meeting yeah but but then wh i do not know when there are new user requirements did not we 0 okay i ha i ha i have the i have well tha i did not receive any new requirements or somethi just no but we decided to use only b basic functions only nothing well i have here a couple of basic functions i could think of okay i dunno if they are maybe a little bit more but well we maybe we can think of that later yeah w just these are the ones you already summed up in the yeah i i well i pointed them out here just to make it a little bit easier okay another function is of course we already discuss it on the side i do not know what costs of it i have no idea about it i was also looking for what you said for i got an email about l c d in in in front of the remote control i do not know if that is a good idea or maybe it is a little bit too much for 125 production yeah huh if we got already something like a base that might get redundant also maybe i do not know what kind of information it would yeah i do not know i d i ju i was just thinking about it yeah then i got a pop ups to go to the meeting yeah yeah it is okay maybe we can bring t teletext to the t to the remote control but the remote control then you and then you have got a flag s very big r c a little too a little bit okay that is not yeah a little bit too big i think it was not a good idea exactly okay yeah well the functions are are not more to discuss i think no it is it is just the base things we already discussed that the no v c r or that kind of so that is very easy no no but you do mention the next and previous button next channel previous channel well that is next channel 0 okay 0 okay okay i mean next channel 0 i i got an email with with an a remote control with a base huh so it is just an idea and i thinked of the button sizes and i am not sure if they have to be big or just small but you are the expert i think it depends on the function well i am not a e i am the expert for user friendly but not for trendiness maybe it well if you save perhaps s tiny buttons are not user friendly then we would not im implement that of course well okay that is your point yeah yeah okay yeah i have nothing to s well w when we only use basic functions we have the possibility to make the buttons larger 0 that is right with a little bit larger yeah yeah i thought so but maybe with the well i think we already agreed upon the fact that the the the skip buttons and the cha and the volume buttons th th those 2 have yeah they have to be large yeah that groups i mean th th the the 22 basic buttons you know the to skip channels and to large yeah yep i think yeah i do not know why but i think that is that is t trendy too because that is the mo it it you know most the most used buttons those are probably the the th it is acc acc accentu how do you say it it puts an extra accent on the the on the simplicity of our remotes to j to make these 2 most basic functions extra big like t yes true yeah those are probably the b 4 most most used buttons on the th in the remote control yeah you did the research and you want to acc accentuate that you know yeah it is from your research sorry yeah sure so okay that was all y personal preference i did not have i did not had any time left okay so yeah no that is coo it is cool you do not care no sorry yeah 0 go away come on it is there yeah click on it couple time 0 great well i have done some research again about trends on the internet i have done some investigation and well i got some information from fashion watchers from paris and milan some some findings the most important thing is fancy look and feel of the remote control well we were going to imply that so that is nice the 2nd important thing is innovative technology in the r c our market really likes really likes that and the 3rd point there in this order if of importance the 3rd point is a high ease of use and well for the idea i have put some trends for the market of elderly people dark colors simple recognizable shapes so we probably will not do that the younger market likes well the themes of of this year are surprisingly fruits and vegetables and spongy material i found this image which is well it symbolizes the idea of fruits and vegetables i do not see the spongy part in it but with a little bit of fancy well maybe c then we have to do something with sponge bob then exactly i got some ideas well yeah pictures is not really good word but some symbols of fruits or vegetables maybe catchy colors fruit is yellow green red whatever so remote controls in in catchy colors it does not stroke with the with the dark colors no we do not want dark colors not the dark colors okay no i just put them there to yeah for general idea okay and the docking saint i think the spongy material is is very irritating for the remote control itself but to yeah the to implement some spongy thing maybe we can do it in the in the docking station at the bottom of the docking station or whatever and we could bring one line with a dark color to p yeah v how do you say for diversity or something yeah also a bit for elderly people who are a little bit crazy and want maybe want a little younger design but still the dark color well how i mean it it it reaches a different market but it it it does not cost really much effort to b to bring like a black r c on the market or whatever yes but how do we use fruits and vegetables in christ is sake with remote control no but i i i think that our design already resembles so a piece of fruit yeah there is there is always a make it a banana it is like a pear or something well there there is always empty space of course on a remote control i mean i think this part of the r c well the upper the upper part or whatever is is not not used with buttons i guess no i do not think you have to do it like so you you can put some fruity things yeah but it that does not have to remind you you know like explicitly of s our f of a of a specific piece of fruit no of course not but just you know like the the the the round curves and so y i i think this y it already sem resembles something like a pear to me or something especially i yeah but th yeah but that yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah but that is if we make it little bit greenish yeah you do get the idea eh the fruity kind of round kay yeah a and we could use one of these for the w what is it yeah yeah i do not know grapes is not this is a b yeah wha whatever but d do not we need a creative artist or something like that to m make it to feel like a a a a vegetable or fruit yeah yeah of course we have yeah sure yeah we have a very big the s well w we can w we can we can produce multiple multiple things for a big team of artists of d design team yeah this is then the pear i do not know the english word so forget it yeah but it is pear i guess and maybe yeah a b a banana is is n not easy for a remote control but m yeah but but i think we do not have to make we can not make all 10 designs no we have to make one design i th i i think no but i think it is it is already what we were were up to mayb maybe 2 or 3 yeah it is it does not have to resemble what i already said yeah a specific piece of fruit but just you know like a fruity thing going on no sure but but b but that is great and and and what i was what what i was saying the catchy colors and it is it looks fruity to me and but i do like the yeah i do like the f to the idea of making a a y a catchy color design and a d because i do i think a dark color would be nice too yeah but pictures of fruit vegetables vegetables maybe it is too much you know but we we have to there have to be the the the the firm colors our own colors has to be in it yeah not really pictures was a was a bad word but okay but what are the this is yellow well we c yeah yellow a real reaction yes you can put a logo on top of it yeah sure but i do not think our our company colors are this fashionable yeah maybe we can if if we got our docking station over here we f yes it is really fruity i can not draw with this thing but i will try a yellow do if this is our docking station we can make our logo over here yeah it does not work and then yeah and the button then with a strawberry on top yeah on n on the bottom of the remote you can do well the button button over here or whatever i do not know okay yeah on the front of course because else you can not find it okay well that were my ideas a little bit i will close em down okay go away okay you can you open the conceptual design presentation conceptual design yes see what was on the agenda lazy the agenda this is his own remote because maybe we can start with the technical functions yeah but i do not think it is there yeah do we want to use an l c d display for example well it is nice of course only if we but i do not i do not know what to display on it me neither maybe maybe we can make a t v guide on it for the channel you are on i mean yeah but it should be li like this big and i do not think yeah but it is so no no only the t v channel with the with with 4 programs i do not think we should do it you can zap through them with the page up page down button yes sure but it it has to to show an entire title of a program or at least a q a quite quite large part of it and then you get a very large l c d screen yes it can on your no on your mobile phone you can y you can read text also because so why not on your remote yeah but no yeah i do not know i do i think it is a bit redundant actually and it is also not i do not th even think it it looks s like sexy or something it is well well what would you display on it then program information or or or or g or a guide program information but is it is not that a already on t v a lot of new t v s but on t on teletext yes also on the internet well a lot a lot of t v s indeed show when you zap to a but but you are already watching the t v you are not going to watch your remote control yeah yes but you also want to know what is next but then we also w need to bring out a line of t v s which we were planning to but whatever yeah and we also have to yeah because the t v has to send information back to the r c and i do not know if that is possible yes that is really possible yes yes 0 of course it is possible but you got to implement it in the t v s and i do not think everyone is going to buy a real reaction t v within a month after the release of our remote control and i also i really understand you want to make your job more exciting by putting an l c d in it but i i really do not think it is a good n goo because it also does not stroke with we wanted c when we talk about the materials it is a good idea to use these plastic materials with soft rubber stuff on it it was our idea you know to give it a more sturdy look and that you ca like you can throw with it yeah but i do not think a l c d display fits in that image you know it is like more vulnerable and it adds nothing really you know that is true that is true it breaks f yeah it it it is not very solid it is frag fragile yeah yeah you could make it but it is just it it does not i do not think it it is coherent with the design we are after no no i do not think so ei either but that is my opinion well you you y okay we can vote for it you want the l c d display no i do not want to and he does not so it is up to him ah if we want to yeah i dunno and i have read somewhere that i have got some kind of veto veto rights 0 okay bastard so i can also say we can you away but did we skip the yeah you could do m but what what i so what i but do you think we should yeah i do not know i i if it is it is a simple p we are not even sure what what information we want to display on it no that that is right and i also have to think about new functions maybe buttons or something like that to control it no so kind of l c d or something or y yes you can use buttons w that are already on the remote control for double functions yeah i guess but how does it display then w when i go to the 2nd channel what what does it show me then you push a button the title and the information about the program about that program but but yeah what he said was right about the televisions they have to be customized to the nah that is not going to work but maybe in future it will be a giant hit and when you are the 1st no yeah you have the biggest 0 well i have seen it done before do you know th like the the bigger rem universal remotes they have d l c d displays yeah but then it is very functional to indicate which what device you are controlling so it is that that is what i have seen yeah that is true if you yeah yes you can put a little l c d display on it with with lots of information but it just it j it does not does not match with the our whole basic concept but i have not thought about it but whe but when you put a a a transparent plastic screen on top of it it i it is not vulnerable well yeah yeah okay you can throw with it and that is maybe not the most important but it is just is it fashion when when you put maybe a color l c d t screen on it it is very special and very trendy to have a remote control from i do not think so i do not know that is not up to you that is up to market if i if it is trendy yeah well do you ha do you have to you have not looked after the trendiness of l c d displays have you no because our our motto is we put fashion well i think it is i think it is pretty trendy to be honest but i do not know if if if well i am coming back to the costs again but i think we got to build a b pretty cheap design to to stay within our limits and i think especially color l c d which is indeed pretty trendy but i do not think i think it will be too expensive but i have got a the email with with the possibilities and l c d was a possibility for the remote control yeah yeah yeah so why do not we use it did it say a price also for for monogramme l c d or colored l c d yeah but we are going to if it yeah if you want to be trendy you have to be colored colored yeah really if y if you c i if you have black and white or something or gray that is i in in 2004 you can not put something on the market which is a monogramme then then you better do not yeah d really no but it does not sa say anything about a color or but i alf i also got a possibility to put a scroll button on it but i really do not feel the whole idea of an l c d display i did not think that i am sorry it can not co you cannot convince me i do not know how well how to with you guys but i do not really feel it we already we are yeah we already have the the th th th base station gadgets it is too much maybe with with the l c d and the docking station and yeah and want and it do it has to be a simple design which sturdy which soft yes but 0 on the w we have we have got to find a balance of course with one thing special and i think not a whole package of specialty i do not think i j and really i do not see how the the l c d display is going to add anything you know on a design level i think it is slicker to have no l ceds no when y y we want to it is simplicity but it look w you have 2 big buttons and you can do whatever you want with these 2 buttons so you do not need an l c d yes but that remote controls are already on the market it does not fit in our philosophy behind the whole remote the simple yes but but when you want to have something special yeah but we already have the docking station which is yes but you had a picture of it from another company we have a pear and the it has to be developed but no but it that is that is our that is our killer feature yeah it is just an it is just an idea that is our what makes it special it is a it is yes it was already made tha the remote control on the docking station yeah we are going to develop our own r n docking station true is that so was it it was not just a prototype yes he have a picture of it well i yeah i dunno exactly i have never seen it in a store but re we really have to cut this off i re i know you i i i i i get the idea you really like it you know the the l c d thing but i i think it is it is not a good idea and we have already mentioned all the arguments i do not do you guys agre how do you guys think i d no it is too much i think it is a little too much yeah it is overdone okay we s skip the l c d display okay okay i am sorry maybe you can do something if we are at your own place or make it make it make it happen in your basement or something democratically no mayb i will rule the world with it but probably so yeah yeah yeah yeah okay but for the technical part the m material i think it was a good idea to use the plastic and the rubber yes maybe a bit of a cushion is yeah yeah yeah p exactly this is what it w yeah but it it was already what we are we are after yeah for the spongy feel yes with a spongy bob feel yeah you know to give it you know the soft touch in your hands and also to yeah know like yeah that is y the b airbag kind of thing like a b yes you can saint throw it at your little brother is head yeah airbag yeah you just can drop it yeah if you drop it if you drop it the airbag comes out yeah yeah yeah no no no not that comfy maybe it but then we have to look that it w will not be too childish to see yeah yeah yeah okay that is a that is a good point and that is why i like the dark t colonel dark color bit you know yeah because it may be the design it is maybe it is a bit of the but not black i think it is a bit 90s maybe what we are what we are up to rat fun to this point no well if if it is fruit and vegetables it have to be colorful yeah that is that is true but but it has to be a little big solid yeah b yeah that is what w i i was pointing at but can we ge it must not be too n you know th too overwhelming then when you put it on your just can we combine it or something with yellow and black yeah yeah maybe so make it a bee what a bee 0 a bee 0 no i do not like the yellow and black combination but it is our company colors yes real real good colors apparently yeah it is our yeah yeah we we have to use yellow i do not like yellow and maybe i do not know well we can as as i but that is not really fruity draw really nicely over there we can put the logo on our on our base station yeah and maybe very very tiny on the remote control itself but but i okay but what what are other tef technical things we have to discuss fronts of the we can have different fronts of the should we do that telephone i do not think you we should do that maybe just bring it out in different colors but not af that you can switch fronts afterwards that is also too much different fronts yeah i guess that is that is enough people do not want to spend more money on their remote control i guess that is way too nokia yeah you can you can l let choose the customer which color he wants yeah are these designs yeah yeah yeah definitely yeah 33 or 44 colors or something like that just bring more designs on the market but without gon okay why not yeah so are we through the technical part then yes okay so we agreed upon n well not u unanimously or how you call it but yeah it this a real young young and dynamic styles well yeah the 3 to one that is the materials you mentioned in your your personal preferences were all were quite okay yes 00 only only the last point your no titanium is not not out of question i guess and tita titanium is is is it a no yes is but also w it is just like that th this titanium yes b bu but when we use s soft but is it possible to use both the the plastic and so soft things and t p titanium as well sure makes it in a homogeneous design no not all not all of them but it it then it you can not throw it it it will make a huge noise or break other stuff when you throw with titanium with your remote control it will it will break other stuff w when it is plastic as well no yeah titanium is a bit it is a bit harder yeah that is true no but you should ma yeah but also on the colors the young okay think of the possibilities and make it in completely titanium well would it be more trendy more chic yeah i think it i think it does i think titanium nowadays is way more often used than plastic yes but a titanium remote control when you are watching t v or your hands are a little bit sweaty and the in trendy things yeah 0 on the other hand if you want to make fruit fruity stuff with yeah it is cold in the winter yes yeah but i i really like the idea of the the the plastic and the big kind of thing yeah but the question is i then it is you know is is it fits in our s philosophy to make it sturdy and simple and know like yeah that is true that is true sports and gaming when you make it titanium it becomes more like some kind of gadget you actually do not need define and when it is big and plastic it is like some fun stuff you can always have around it is always fun to have something big and plastic around yes you have that m p 3 player of nike i saw yeah is not that titanium with a little bit of rubber yes it is w but it is plastic is not it is plastic well it is titanium looking yes w we can do that on the on the what yeah he is here he is the i do not know if you know the m p 3 player of nike kay that that is very with rubber so it is very 0 yeah okay yeah yeah that is beautiful yeah i see we can make this as a style too yeah but but but rough this is just a 0 maybe th maybe this is an yeah i th i think that is difficult because that is different material and then you got to have like 2 material lines of of of no we c we can make it from the same kind of plastic yeah if it is just a color which you which you change then i guess it is it is nice to have one of these no i do like the idea of maybe a t titanium kind type of body w and then with s plastic colouration around it you know like the the soft stuff but i do not know if it is possible yeah i do not have the information i i did not got it but you can not make the plastic give the ti titanium look true yes but make it just like shiny yeah yeah true maybe we should shou like the m p 3 player yeah maybe that is good idea yeah but if you want to la yeah last longer than 2 weeks or something like that you can maybe yeah and and maybe we sh should we t i do not know if we should talk about how how much time have we got left in a lot of other i do not know what time does 40 minutes in a lot of other product categories like even in b in bags industry they began with t typical leather bags but then they became stylish with all all si all sort of colors and w kind of fon of of fronts like we can use on the telephone and it yeah okay like eastpack began a revolution with it with all this kind of bags and and colors and and you putting in different colors yes and and styles okay they have also a kind of roses on it a and yeah yeah okay yeah but w yeah well it is it is a possibility but let us think about the bas then we can always use the same design for a greater resemblance but with new with new colors new yes yes new prints on it yep but wha th our basic idea y i mean you going to we are probably going to have like 2 type of materials like the d d b the plastic enclosure and then the the pads that surround it and and pro and lights we have to incorporate the lights too but do w going to going to are we going to give it a 2 tone color look like the the plastic mold is in in one color and the s the cushion pads around it are in another color is that the idea is that a good idea how do you mean th th the base in a in another the rubber how many colors are we how many colors are we going to we are f f only 5 minutes left by the way yes how many colors are we going to give it like 2 tone color there there are 3 components 3 components type t yeah no not too much i think you have the buttons the the case itself and the rubber and th how the buttons yeah i think maybe the case itself should be in one color and then the rubber of the buttons and the cushions as well should be in another color yes or you just make one color maybe with a a z a kind of like a big wave or something like yeah okay but not more than well yeah it is no in in another color not more than 2 colors i think no definitely not it is a g a little bit too flashy maybe we should talk about it on a l in a later meeting yes definitely yeah or or when you use the buttons as black it you can use 2 colors as well okay but we have to think of some other important things 0 yeah the the functionalities of the the buttons the funct yeah i was i was thinking about th the saint do we still want a joystick idea no no i think that is too vulnerable yeah i think this is okay the so we have the basic then we have the numbers we have the power button we have we have a teletext button the volume teletext and and maybe want to access a a menu or something yeah but that is that is i was thinking that has got to be on the television most t v s have a menu yeah but i think you ha i really need a menu button yeah yeah yeah yeah b that is just i the only button only yeah but wha what kind of menu you know i is is not that different from every television no i think most t v s have an a menu nowadays to access the screen settings yeah if it is c if and so yeah i think it is okay to to add a menu button for and if the t v does not have a menu then but that that covers all the all the other settings it covers everything then but then you have to put up and down and left and right yeah yeah you can put that on the 284 and 6 or whatever no you can use the and you al can also use the normal skip buttons for that okay th in that way we have like only the numbers the power button skip and volume and then 10 rem yeah mute yeah a mute and a teletext and a menu mute a teletext and a menu and then then i that is it that is all it is all we need yeah okay another stuf some stuff about the the the design of the docking station great yeah okay that is not mu not much functions so something important about a s no which sh should remind us of the remote itself i guess yeah definitely in one color are we going to do something with the spongy thing there just use i think the spongy thing already comes forward in the in the in the cushions pads and things on the s side yeah that is true that is true and we will make it spongy and and and well the fruity thing is just the shape should be fru i did i think this is kind of fruity you know just round shapes with yeah it is kinda fruity and with th with catchy colors w yeah but we are going to have to we really have to think i think colors is very important because it has to be flashy but and but it d it does not have to be annoying that when you know some things is just over the top and when you have it on your table for more than 2 weeks you it just gets annoying because it is so big and flashy yeah definitely it has to be some level of subtlety but we have to still have to think of how we manage to to get to that yeah okay okay guess we are through then i guess so okay but we i think also we just so we have to do something with color but also i i think we have to keep the dark color thing in mind i think that is adds to the too much color maybe m yes yeah too much color i it when you got it in a living room it is too much maybe but our des design experts will work that out yea yeah it has to be okay well i think the meeting will be over within a minute yep yeah so we will wrap up something like that or is there anything we would like to discuss i guess not that is right okay do you guys no no okay well you will read the minutes in the you can find them in the pro probably in the shared folder 0 okay yeah yeah no for su for sure because i am will now type them out what are we going to do now y yeah you will see in you email i guess yeah i think yeah i do not know i do not know i hope so and the other thing is that you do not have kind of prototype or something like that you see a kinda prototype you can a little bit more i will make one in the next 20 minutes yeah construct one yeah but toilet paper roll and with you laptop yeah okay 0 my god alright shall we get back to work yep great i was waiting for the l last message but well you are yeah we are not bastard back to the pen you lazy yeah
i am hi you are late you are late so me okay all set welcome to the conceptual design meeting the agenda the opening i will again be the secretary and make minutes take minutes and there will be 3 presentations just like the last meeting so who wants to start off technical designer again okay before we begin i want to say i have put the minutes of the 2nd meeting in the shared folder but they are still not quite okay it is still some technical difficulties so the 1st part of the minutes are very hard to read because there are 2 documents that were layered over each other okay but from now on i will not use my pen anymore it will be just ordinary keyboard keyboard work i think it will be more easy for you to read the minutes all right okay when we talk about components design it is really about the material and really the stuff we build the remote controls of remote control consists of components and the components of remote control because of properties and material we have to choose these wisely and it could affect a kind of kind of a kind of growth in buying the remote controls the components of remote control are of course the case the properties of the case are it has to be solid hard material like hard plastic with soft rubber for falling and it feels good in your hand the buttons has to be solid too and the material is soft rubber i have got an email from the possibilities of real reaction they are telling me that when we build a remote control of plastic or rubber the buttons have to be rubber too let us go when we use a rubber d doubled curved case you must use rubber push buttons to the rubber double curved case is a 3 dimensional curve in the design which is necessary and we want to be trendy the energy source i have got a lot of possibilities for that too the basic battery which i prefer because of its non depending of of of here you have to have hand kinetic energy also in this one like in the one like in the watches but remote control can lie on the table for a day and then you push a button and so you do not have to work with it all the time solar shells are also a bit weird for remote controls also the case material i think plastic is the best with rubber because wood because of wood or titanium would also be a bit weird 0 titanium is probably trendy i think that is true i guess yeah that may be a little bit expensive i do not know i do not tell anything about the cost of titanium  the chip the chips says the chipset and the board is all off the shelf also the speaker in the remote control when we want to retrieve it the base station is also off the shelf all the materials and components are just available in our factory i have told about the the 31st points the simple electronic chip is available with the lead transmitter it is all off the shelf and even the speaker and the wireless retriever are all available in our company another possibility i looked upon was the lcd this place could be something special to our remote control and it is possible but it only cost a bit more but maybe it can be within the limits of €25 12 and half actually i have got an email with some examples and these were the most trendiest one you see covers which can be what are those tooth brushes i do not know but it is actually kind of well it resembles the design i have in mind for this one you know the cartoonish a lessee kind of design yes maybe we can bring a couple of types of maybe a kind of whole a whole set of different remote controls maybe we can bring a whole line with a huge variety of houses like maybe radios and television also in the same style yeah that will be for the future i guess because we have to bring the logo and all the stuff back into it yeah definitely okay thank you can i yeah that is okay well i shall go to the next slide i still do not have any information about user requirements i was thinking about just the basic functions and i got 0 you decided upon that in the last meeting yeah but then i do not know when there are new user requirements 0 okay i did not receive any new requirements any new requirements or something nothing no we decided to use only basic functions i have here a couple of basic functions i could think of okay i do not know if there maybe a little bit more well we maybe we can think of that later yeah these are the ones you already summed up in the yeah i well i pointed them out here just to make it a little bit easier another function is of course we already discussed it on the site i do not know what cost of it no idea but i was also looking for what you said for i got an email about lcd in front of the remote control i do not know if that is a good idea of maybe it is a little bit too much for 125 production if we got already something like a base bit redundant also maybe i do not know what kind of yeah i do not know i just i was just thinking about it and they got a pop up maybe we can bring teletext to the remote control they have got like a little bit very big rc yeah a little bit too big actually okay okay okay well the functions are not more to discuss it it is just the base things we already discussed that no vcr or that kind of so that is very easy but you do mention a next and previous button well that is next channel 0 i mean my next channel 0 yeah i got an email with a remote control with a base so it is just an idea and i think of the button sizes and i am not sure if they have to be big or just small but you are i think it depends on the function well i am not the expert for user friendly but not for trendiness maybe well if you say perhaps tiny buttons are not user friendly then we would not implement that of course well that is your point yeah yeah okay yeah i have nothing to no that is right when we only use basic functions we have the possibility to make the buttons larger with a little bit larger yeah i thought so but maybe with the well i think we already agreed upon the fact that the skip buttons and the volume buttons those 2 they have to be large i mean the 2 basic buttons you know to skip channels yeah yeah i think yeah i do not know why but i think that is that is very because it is you know it is it is ex accent how do you say it puts an extra accent on the on the on the simplicity of our remotes to make these 2 most basic functions extra big those are probably the 4 most used buttons on the remote you want to accentuate that it is from your research yeah sure okay that was all personal preference i did not have at any time left no you do not care no sorry yeah it is out yours yeah go away it is there yeah click on it 0 great i have done some research again about trends on the internet i have done some investigation and i got some information from fashion watchers from paris and milan some findings the most important thing is a fancy look and feel of the remote control well we were going to imply that so that is nice the 2nd important thing is innovative technology in the rc our market really likes that and the 3rd point there in this order of importance the 3rd point is a high ease of use and well for the idea i have put some trends for the the markets of elderly people dark colors simple recognizable shapes so we probably will not do that the younger markets like the themes of this year are surprisingly fruits and vegetables and spongy material i found this image which is well it symbolizes the idea of fruits and vegetables do not see the sponge part in it but with a little bit of fantasy maybe we have to do something with sponge well exactly i got some ideas well yeah pictures is not really good word but some symbols of fruits or vegetables maybe catchy colors fruit is yellow green red whatever so remote controls in catch colors no we do not want dark colors no i just put them there for a general idea and the darking i think a spongy material is very irritating for the remote control itself but to implement some spongy thing maybe we can do it in the docking station at the bottom of the docking station or whatever and we could bring one line with a dark color to yeah how do you say for diversity or something yeah also a bit for elderly people who are a little bit crazy and want maybe want a little younger design but still the dark color i mean it reaches a different market but it does not cause really much effort to bring like a black rc on the market or whatever but how do we use fruits and vegetables in christ christ is sake with remote i think our design already resembles a piece of fruit there is always empty space of course on a remote control i mean i think this part of the rc well i do not think you have to do it the upper part or whatever is not used with buttons i guess so you can put some fruity things it does not have to remind you you know like explicitly or no of course piece of fruit but just you know like the the the round curves and so i think this especially it already resembles something like a beer to me or something yeah exactly yeah make it a little bit greenish you get the idea the yeah round and we could use one of these for the yeah what is it yeah i do not know great yeah what we need a creative artist or something like that to yeah yeah of course we have a vegetable or fruit we have a very big we can a very big team of artists we can produce multiple things this is then the i do not know the english word forget it it is a pair i guess and maybe but i think we do not have to make not easy for remote control but we can not make all 10 designs we have to make one design i think but i think it is already what we were up to yeah it does not have to resemble what i already said a specific piece of fruit but just you know like a fruity thing going on but that is great and what i was saying the catchy colors yeah i do like the idea of making a catchy color design because i do i think a dark color would be nice too yeah pictures of fruit maybe it is too much you know but we have to not just pictures there have to be the firm colors our own okay what are the yellow yellow a real reaction you can put the logo on top of it i do not think our company colors are this fashionable maybe we can if we got our docking station over here i can draw with this thing but i will try if this is our docking station we can make our logo over here it does not work and then yeah and the button then with a strawberry on the yeah on the bottom of the remote the button over here or whatever i do not know okay yeah on the front of course because else you can find it well that were my ideas a little bit i will close them down go away can you open the conceptual design presentation yes see what was on the agenda lazy the agenda decision is on remote because maybe we can start with the technical functions but i do not think is there yeah do we want to use an lcd display for example well it is nice but i do not i do not know what to display on it maybe we can make a tv guide on it for the channel your own yeah but yeah it should be like this big and i do not think i do not think we should do it with a with a with a with a with a 4 programs you can zap through them with the page up page down button yes sure but it has to to show an entire title of a program or at least a quite yes quite large part of it and then you get a very large lcd screen on your mobile phone you can you can read text also so why not on your remote never i think it is a bit redundant and it is also not i do not even think it looks like sexy or something what you display on internet program information or a guide on tv a lot of new tv on teletext yes also on the internet a lot of tvs in the show when you but you are already watching a tv you are not going to watch your remote control yes but you also want to know what is next but then we also need to bring out a line of tvs which we were planning to but whatever it is because the tv has to send information back to the rc and i do not know if that is possible yes that is really possible yes yes of course it is possible but you have got to implement it in the tvs and i do not think everyone is going to buy a real reaction tv within a month after the release of our remote i really understand you want to make your job more exciting but i really do not think it is a good because it also does not stroke with you we want to the when we talk about the materials it is a good idea to use these plastic materials with the soft rubber stuff on it it was our idea you know to give it a more sturdy look and that you can throw with it but i do not think an lcd display fits in that image you know it is like more vulnerable and it adds nothing really you know it breaks yeah it is not very solid it is yeah you can make it but it is just it does not i do not think it is coherent with the design we are after no i do not think so i do not well it is my opinion okay we can vote for it you want you you you okay we can vote for it you the lcd display i do not want to and he does not so it is up to him i have read somewhere that i have got some kind of veto veto rights so i can also say we can vote you away so what but do you think we should we are not even sure what information we want to display no that is right and i also have to think about new functions maybe buttons or something like that to control that kind of lcd or something yeah i guess you can use the buttons that are already on the remote control but how does it display then and then you press your button when i go to the 2nd channel what does it show me the title and information about the program about that program but what he said was right about the televisions they have to be customized to that it is not going to work but maybe in future it will be a giant hit and when you are the 1st you have the biggest you know like the bigger universal remotes they have lcd displays but then it is very functional to indicate with what device you are controlling that is what i have seen yeah you can put a little lcd display on it with lots of information but i have not thought about it it does not match with our whole basic concept but when you put a transparent plastic screen on top of it it is not vulnerable no no that is maybe not the most important but it is just is it fashion i do not think so when you put maybe a color lcd screen on it it is very special and very trendy to have a remote withdrawal that is up to the market if it is trendy yeah what do you have you looked after the trendiness of lcd this way because our motto is we put it very special to be honest but i do not know if i am coming back to the costs again but i think we have got to build a pretty cheap design to stay within our limits and i think especially color lcd which is indeed pretty trendy but i do not think i think it will be too expensive but i have got the email with the with the possibility and lcd was a possibility for the remote control so why do not we use it i did it say price also for a monogram lcd or colored lcd yeah if you want to be when you have to be colored yeah really if you if you have black and white or something or gray then you then you are going to do it in 2004 you can not put something on the market which is monochrome really no but it does not say say anything about the color or but i also got the possibility to put a scroll button on it but i did not really do not feel the whole idea of an lcd display i am sorry you can not convince me i do not know how it is with you guys but i do not really feel it we already we are watch maybe yeah we all really have the base station gadgets and we want it has to be a simple design which yes but on the we have got to find a balance of course and i think not a whole package of speciality and really i do not see how the lcd display is going to add anything on a design level i think it is no slicker to have no it is it is simplicity you have 2 big buttons and you can do whatever you want with these 2 buttons you do not need an lcd that remote controls are already on the market it does not does not fit in our philosophy behind the whole remote yes but when you want to have something special we already have the docking station which is yeah but we had a picture of it from another company it has to be developed no but that is our it is just an idea that is our yes it was already made the remote control on the docking station is that some yes yeah it was do i have a prototype yeah i do not know exactly i have never seen it in a store we really have to cut this off i mean i guess the idea you really like it you know the lcd thing but i think it is not a good idea and we have already mentioned all the arguments do you guys how do you guys think no it is too much i think it is a little too much yeah it is overdone okay we skip the lcd okay okay i am sorry maybe you can do something at your own place or make it happen in your basement or something and i will rule the world with it yeah yeah yeah yeah okay but for the technical part the material i think it was a good idea to use the plastic and the rubber yes maybe a bit of cushion is yeah yeah exactly yeah it is what we are after you know to give it the soft touch you know the soft touch in your hands and also you know like yeah this is the air back kind of thing yes yeah you just drop it throw it at your little brother is if you drop it the air back comes out yeah no no maybe but then we have to look that it will not be too childish to see yeah yeah okay that is that is a good and that is why i like the dark color bit you know yeah because maybe the design it is a bit of but not black i think it is a bit in 90s maybe what we are up to right from this point if it is fruit and vegetables it has to be colorful yeah that is true but it has to be a little bit subtle it must not be too overwhelming when you put it in a can we combine it or something with yellow and black yeah maybe so make it a bee what 0 a bee no i do not like to yellow on that combination but it is our company colors yeah it is our good colors yeah we have to use yellow  i do not like yellow well we can as i but that is not really fruity draw really nicely over there we can put the logo on our base station yeah and maybe very very tiny on the remote control itself okay but what are other technical things we have to discuss fronts we can have different fronts of the should we do that i do not think we should do that maybe just bring it out in different colors but not after you can switch fronts afterwards it is also too much people do not want to spend more money on the remote control i guess you can choose the customer which color he wants yeah yeah definitely yeah just bring more design for the 4 colors without going okay so are we through the technical part then yes okay so we agreed upon well not you know yeah this is a real young young and dynamic the materials you mentioned in your your personal preferences were all quite okay titanium is it no titanium no it is just like it is titanium yes but when we use the plastic and soft things and titanium as well sure makes it in a homogeneous design but then you can throw with it it will make a huge noise or break other stuff when you throw with a titanium it will break other stuff stuff with your remote control no titanium is a bit but also on the colors okay think of the possibility to make it completely titanium what would it be more trendy more chic i think i think titanium nowadays is way more often used than plastic yes but titanium remote control when you are watching tv or your hands are a little bit sweaty and on the other hand if you want to make fruit free stuff yeah but i really like the idea of the plastic and the big kind of thing because then it is you know it fits in our philosophy to make it sturdy and simple and you know like sports and gaming when you make a titanium it becomes more like some kind of gadgets you actually do not need and when it is big and plastic it is like some fun stuff you can always have around it is always fun to have something big and plastic something big and plastic right that mp 3 player of nike so is not that titanium with a little bit rubber yes it is but it is plastic with titanium looking yes what we can do that on the yeah yes i do not know if you know the mp 3 player of nike okay that is very with rubber so it is very we can make this as a style too this is just maybe maybe this is difficult because that is different material and then you have got to have like 2 material lines no we can make it from the same kind of plastic yeah if it is just the color which you change then i guess it is nice to have one of these i do like the idea of maybe a titanium kind of type of body and then with plastic coloration and around it you are not like the soft stuff but i do not know if it is possible i do not have the information i did not cut it but you can make the plastic give it the titanium look yes true but make it just like shiny yeah yeah maybe we should do yeah maybe that is a good idea yeah but if you want to yeah less longer then 2 weeks or something that you can maybe maybe we should i do not know if we should talk about how much time in a lot of other i do not know what time 40 minutes in a lot of other product categories like even in bags in the store in bags industry they began with typical leather bags but then they became stylish with all sorts of colors kind of fun of fronts okay like we can use on the telephone and like eastpac began a revolution with it with all this kind of bags and colors and in different colors yes and styles they have also kind of roses on it 0 yeah okay yeah yeah it is a possibility but let us think about the base then we can always use the same design for a greater resemblance but with new colors new new prints on this yeah but our basic idea i mean you are going to we are probably going to have like 2 type of materials like the the plastic enclosure and then the pads that surround it and lights we have to incorporate the lights too but are we going to give it a 2 tone color look like the plastic mold is in one color and the cushion pads around it are in another color is that the idea is that a good idea how do you mean the rubber how many colors are we going to we are only 5 minutes left by the way how many colors are we going to give it like 2 tone color there are 3 components 3 components type you have the buttons the case itself i think maybe the case itself should be in one color and then the rubber of the buttons and the cushions as well should be in another or you just make one color maybe with a kind of like a big wave or something like okay but not more than not more than 2 colors i think no definitely maybe we should talk about it in a later meeting or when you use the buttons as black you can use 2 colors as well okay well do we have to think of some other important things 0 yeah the functionality i was thinking about the do we still want the joystick idea no no i think that is too vulnerable yeah i think this is okay so we have the basic we have the numbers we have the power button we have a teletext button and maybe want to access a menu or something yeah but that is i was thinking that has got to be on the television yeah but i think you really need a menu button it is just the only button what kind of menu is not that different from every television no i think most tvs have a menu nowadays to access the screen settings i think it is okay to add a menu button for a but that covers all the other settings it covers everything then but then you have to put up and down and left and right you can use the 284 and 6 and you can also use you can also use the normal skip buttons for that and that way we have only the numbers the power button skip and volume and then a remote and a mute and a teletext and a menu and then that is it so we need yeah okay another stuff about the design of the docking station something important about it we should remind us of the remote itself i guess yeah definitely in one color do you do something with the spongy thing there i think the spongy thing already comes forward in the cushions pads and things on the side we make it spongy and the fruity thing it is just the shape should be fruit i think this is kind of fruity you know just round shapes with a yeah it is kind of fruity and with catchy colors yeah but we really have to think i think colors is very important because it has to be flashy but it does not have to be annoying that when you have you know some things is just over the top and when you have a table for more than 2 weeks you just gets annoying because it is so big and fleshy it has to be some level of subtlety but we have to still have to think of how we manage to get to that okay okay i guess so but we i think also we just so we have to do something with color but also i think we have to keep the dark color thing in mind i think that adds to the too much color maybe too much color when you got it in a living room it is too much maybe design experts have to be okay well i think the meeting will be over within a minute so we will wrap up or is anything we like to discuss i guess not do you that no okay well you will read the minutes in the you can find them in probably yeah no for sure for sure for we will now type them out what are we going to do now you will see in your email yeah i do not know i do not know i hope so and the only thing is that you do not have kind of prototype or something like that you see kind of prototype you can i will make one in the next 20 minutes yeah construct one yeah we do a laptop toilet paper all right so we will get back to work yeah great where you are yeah we are not back to the pen you are lazy okay so we must be there so we must be there okay so we must there be there you can not okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i am now 00 yeah what would you do yeah it is not but they can do together together 0 okay okay okay okay okay yeah that i missed coffee time bucky do you make me a cookie yes i am going to do a bucky you are not together with the yeah you are at the slag 0 okay okay have fun yeah okay yeah well yeah well that overlever i am well i am just in 30 minutes i am yeah prima sorry a little of a drink 0 yeah that that is i am just for you 0 yeah i am going to pack can i just pack well come on a lot of them actually just a little bit of water or so yeah 0 i know if it is good this yeah yeah you know i am going to be i am going to go okay thank you okay okay