0 du okay thanks for coming to this meeting hm s how we doing on our remote we have some we have some ideas and some ideas for what people want we yes s i have lo i have done the role that i was asked to do anyway yeah i think alright let us just go over the agenda real quick for this meeting see if i can not get things moving along here a little bit better i will go over what we went over last time which should not take long then i believe each of you have a presentation i have was sent a a couple more requirements for our remote what they want then we can come to a conclusion on what we want the remote to do and how it is going to do it hopefully and then we will have the closing which we will have 40 minutes for let us see the last meeting we went over who was responsible for what i am responsible for leading the meetings keeping the notes and coming up with the final presentation corinne is our marketing expert she is going to figure out what what the consumer wants ryan is our user interface designer and manuel is the industrial designer so you are going to come up with the ideas ryan and you are going to pick em apart we decided our remote we want it to be a universal remote that everyone would want we want to be modern fun different it needs to be sturdy easy to find so we going to have that locator function and we want to be different and then we went over a couple of different ideas ball shaped phone the keyboard shape we decided that it should probably be one handed something we could use with one hand and that was our last meeting so why do not do each of you have a presentation yep okay i will hand it off to you and does anyone do you want to go 1st sure so we can maybe see what what the people want what was it function 8 f 8 f 8 well how do i get it slide show to go to the next one 0 right right right yeah you click on that guy that one yeah okay alright well this is my report which is going to be based pretty much on a survey that i was sent 0 gosh i have no idea g just press the arrow keys i think usually goes to it okay sorry i actually need to see something else on my screen hit f 8 again yeah i think and then again yeah you want it to be on both screens or just just yours no i want something else on mine is that possible yeah but i think you have to hit escape and then you can yeah okay but now you do not have that 0 hit f 8 again sorry guys i know i did the same thing and then it should come up here shortly kay so is there no way i can give you the slideshow and i think 0 give us the slideshow and something on your screen have something yeah yeah 0 well i am not sure you could maybe minimize that screen and then yeah have them both up at the same time i think it is okay okay so 1st of all the method that i used was by doing some marketing research by doing research on some interviews that were conducted and then some internet research and i was sent a report that was i think there were a 100 remote users that they interviewed and so i will show you some of the results from that which i think will be helpful okay here are some of the findings they said that the users dislike the look and feel of their current remote controls and 75% of the users find their remote controls to be ugly which is a fairly significant number i would say and 80% of the users would be willing to spend more money if they could get a remote that would look fancy so i think that earlier we were onto something when we were talking about having it be a modern cool look i think that is definitely important they say that current remote controls do not match well the operating behavior of the user 75% of users said they zap a lot and if anyone could clarify what that means zap does that just mean like changing the channel is is it j just just just using it yeah just jus yeah okay and 50% of the users say that they are only using 10% of the buttons on their remote control and there was something else they kept track of the frequency per hour in using certain buttons and some of them it looks like barely need to be included at all of course channel selection is used the most frequently and then teletext was the next volume and then power and then audio settings and screen settings and channel settings were practically never used so i think we could definitely eliminate or somehow combine a lot of the functions into one button the biggest user frustrations as we said 50% of people find that their remotes are lost somewhere and so i think a tracking device of some sort would be a good idea they said it take 34% said it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote and 26% said that the controls are bad for r s i a repetitive strain injury what is it just repetitive strain injury i think okay that is what i guess okay and so bas okay as far as speech recognition goes the younger group looks like they are all for it from the 15 to 25 age group over 90% said they would pay more and it kind of just went down incrementally the groups at the older they get it looks like the less willing they are to pay so maybe we could discuss this and think and decide if we think it is worth investing in this at least if we are targeting the younger groups and so in conclusion some things that i drew from this are that i think we were correct we definitely need to focus on a new modern appearance since so many people seem to be concerned about the ugliness of their remote control a multifunctional remote could be a good thing to explore so you only have one rather than 5 different remotes sitting all over your room we need to simplify the remote and reduce the number of buttons get rid of the ones that do not seem to be serving much purpose and then lastly i thought that maybe we could discuss the idea of speech recognition and that is it kay very nice now we actually have some ideas of what what people want what we should focus on wait can i look at that real quick 0 yeah sorry did you guys get time to write everything that you needed yeah kay having just listened to what corinne just said i will draw on some of the things as well some things that sort of relevant to what i want to say kay so i am just going to yeah approach the technical functions design the method i used was to explore the technical functions of a remote control and t s simplest approach that i came to is is to change program and operate an electronic device remotely i mean that is an obvious thing to say but it is not attached to the device that you want to control i had some things sent to me not very much to look at similar devices defined in some them and then the personal preferences that i will suggest we discussed a universal one like it is just been brought up again then but i think a universal remote control is actually quite a difficult object to design and po possibly within maybe the budget that we do it because you would need to know all the spef specifications of a all the like electronic companies i am not sure have you ever come across a universal remote control yourself but you have to i they are a nightmare to use you have to set them reset them to everything and that would only add buttons whereas i think the aim is to take away buttons so i think it would be better maybe to concentrate on maybe just a universal one for t v s or maybe just one that you could we could design and then different people manufacturers could use it to set to their specifications if if the aim is to get something that is unique in design okay here here is just 2 pictures of remote controls they are just simple t v remote controls but one is user centered that is the one on the left and you can straight away see there is less buttons and the other one is engineer centered where that is more specified for the sort of the elaborate piece of equipment it is trying to control which appeals more to the product that we want and on what the have said and the market research and stuff probably looking at something that should be user centered fewer buttons simpler to use and if 10% is hidden away if 10% is what is used maybe the other 50% the buttons that are used very rarely like programming they could be hidden maybe under some remote controls you might have come across have maybe a little flip thi thing where they are hidden away and the main buttons are the ones you or the ones you come across and finally sort i have sort of covered that our product i think should be user interface orientated like i said to concentrate on t v remote control a universal remote might be too complex and as what it the major findings market researchers have said it is the image and the appearance that people di dislike so that we should concentrate on something that would set a trend and then and change the fashion of remote controls and that is it cable there thank you what was your last conclusion on that one focus on the i on something on the image of it the image of it the f the actual design kay good good okay going to talk to you about the working design of the interiors basically which is what dictates the design the both the interface basically and the outer appearance because this is all the stuff that needs to go in there right so unfortunately the people who were supposed to do this little presentation for me obviously were too drunk to actually accomplish it so i am going to do a lot of the stuff on the board just this is the basic basic premise of a remote control the basic function is to send messages to another system okay so much is clear an energy source feeds an integrated circuit like a chip that can compose messages often in the form of infrared bits this is the most mostly used there is also some sound systems but infrared is the better or the more more used system parts are cheaper as well a user interface controls the chip and accordingly the messages this is where my people screwed up basically so i am going to explain that on the board rather what we have is different components that obviously need to go in there we will start with an energy source right which is usually a battery right since it is not feasible to add a cable to that this energy source of course is connected to the the user interface itself which can be buttons whatever which in fact controls a chip right this is the user interface and there we have the chip the way this goes normally is that this chip then controls an infrared lamp that sends out the signal of course the signal differs accordingly depending on what the chip tells the infrared lan lamp and of course that is controlled the chip itself is controlled by the user interface the way you normally normally do it is that you add a little device such as a lamp to the whole thing as well so that you know that it is working basically you press something you get a response which is also comparatively important on one of those devices now this what we are talking about here or what i think should be discussed are these 2 components mostly the the energy source for one thing can be altered what we probably cannot alter is of course the infrared the sending device basically the infrared lamp we cannot change the chip which controls the infrared lamp right these 2 are components that we have to use and these are dictated by the whole function of the whole thing the lamp can be put onto the desi the device it c it does not have to be there this can be discussed as well the user interface that is something we can also discuss as we have heard speech recognition is the hype obviously in the moment speech recognition interface we do not know that or if we just do the usual button thing or we have a touch pad or something like that that is something we can discuss and of course the energy source batteries solar cells who knows of course it is always a question whether these these components are in fact available cheap enough developed enough but that is like i s i suppose rather up to marketing and not to so we could the the the more complex we make it of course the more expensive to the industrial design department expensive it is going to be get yeah but people have said that they would well younger generations of people have said that they would pay more for a speech recognition remote so right possibly it might be worth the investment i think speech recognition was one of those things where they have to be really good for them to work cause sometimes you find yourself just saying things over and 0 if it is on your phone yeah i agree and you need to sort of take into light languages and then different dialects i suppose as well well i myself i find when you h when there is something like spee speech recognition like you call on the phone and you try to change your telephone or power or something sometimes they have a a speech recognition on the other end and you say one for this yeah and you find yours like you said saying the same thing over and over and over i find myself especially if i am in a crowd of people looking really silly yeah so maybe if you are sitting on your couch with a bunch of people then and wou i do not know if would would you want to keep saying stuff if you were watching stuff you know you if you were watching something would you sort of be wanting volume up volume down yeah change the channel you know channel up channel down i i do not know another thing about these figures is 91% of the youngest age groups said they would do it but probably a lot of them that is actually their parents money like i do not know if they would actually go out and purchase this themselves a 15 year old you know i think as well it would be j the gimmick factor for the younger people yeah but practically i do not think it is it is a it is a gimmick factor that they like at 1st and yeah it will wear off gets old yeah okay let us see here do you want to put your cord back in yeah i guess so 0 right trade you go now i was sent a couple of things to modify our new requirements the remote is only going to be for the television which is good because we already decided y your your research showed that not only is a universal remote more complicated it is more cost more costly and your re research showed that you know most of the people do not even use it i think you said 50% of the people only use half the or 10% of the buttons so if we remove the universal remote then that solves that problem no teletext so we do not have to worry about that but we do have to use the the company wants us to incorporate the corporate color and our slogan which is we put the fashion in electronics and our corporate colors are gray and yellow and we could probably get away with black too but so those are the 3 the 3 new requirements that that i was told we need to use from all all 3 of your presentations i think that we were on the right track a lot in our last meeting we want something that looks good we want something that is simple we want something that you can find easily and the speech recognition i i guess is kind of give or take it is going to cost more s the young the younger people say that they like it but it is probably i would say probably not worth the investment at this point in time so maybe we should just do away with speech recognition and that way we can focus on our form i did have have a thought about the sort of the tracking thing is that if it came with maybe a holder or holster whatever you want to call it that you you should put it back in your remote but if you do not put it back in you press something like a little button on that and that just sort of sends out a beep to find where it is or something just by infrared that should not be too complex i would have thought that would be that would be good if we were going with our our ball yeah it would be quite good the ball could sit on a or or with you know i guess with any form that that would be good you know that could be the charger for you know we could use rechargeable batteries in the remote yeah and that would be or solar or you know however however you wanted to go about it the holder could also be the charging unit yeah with the locator button and if it were the ball you would no longer have to have a flat space on it yeah like if we still have the how to hold on to it and well you still do you s you still w yeah you put it on t on the couch table rolls away yeah while you are watching it is going to roll off it is going to roll away so that is not an issue really so i guess after the meeting we will have some questionnaires and and some summaries for for what is going on then we will take lunch then we can come back and work on our individual work i will do the minutes let us see it looks like you are already on your way for working with the components chips the what chips we need and what you know how to power it and whatnot user interface concept we want it to be something simple yeah minimal number of buttons i guess our i guess our main main thing that we should focus on until then is probably deciding on a certain look you know yeah right that is did you have time earlier to to work on that did you guys feel you have enough time in between our meetings to get everything done that you need to get done not really i will yeah i will have a look try look at the actual appearance in the next break kay i th i i do still think it needs to be something that is ultimately one handed the ball is probably not a good idea and even something that is held like that might be difficult so that i think it still has to be a variation on maybe a a rect on a rectangle but maybe not necessarily as boring as plain as a rectangle shall we maybe shoot for a a specific target group that way we could l i mean if it were if we were shooting for young guys then it is a certain look to the remote or girls or older people would that you think that would help us find a specific form that we would would want to pick out d i do not know if that might cope with like the trend watching i find anything more on that yeah not yet but maybe by the next meeting we will have some info on that kay so we know that the remote is going to have to be we will just say we have got a color scheme for it yeah yellow and you know yellow it is nice and bright with the buttons being gray or black and our slogan pasted somewhere on it on the the bottom or the you know bottom perhaps yeah maybe we could sketch a so basically all of our remotes all of our typical remotes now are just kind of a rectangular sort you know maybe we could flare it or something you know so it is more of course this will look like a bone then go ahead and erase this hope everyone memorized that you i mean it might be to look at sort of the the shape and trend of like things like mobile phones and the shapes that the they have been going yeah yeah they have gone from big brick block things which is a remote control is to sort of slinky small things yeah everybody has got a mobile phone right except for me now but they are all you know mobile phones they have kind of taken a turn to where they are really small yeah which may defeat our purpose for being able to locate our remote all the time right but then again you do not want you know like the 1st mobile phone that was this big and you had a handbag to carry it around in so we have got basically what remotes look like now is kind of what we are what we are stuck with maybe we could go with a square or something hm you know with minimal number of buttons i guess you have got you know one through 9 for typing in your channels you have got volume up and down channel up and down power power usually at the top a mute that is the classical design that is that is pretty much all you need i think a menu button maybe right so you know if you if we want the remote to do other things like or i guess the t v to be able to change the tint and the color and you know all those kind of things that are built into t v s we just have that under one standard menu button where you go in press the menu button scroll up and down to select it yeah yeah talking of which maybe a scrolling function is not not too bad kay so it is talk about maybe f look at that from the side there maybe which is technically the easiest option would probably be like a scrolling little scrolling wheel like this yeah yeah yeah like a wheel on your mouse so yeah sort of like that sort of you can even if we are coming from mice we can even add a click function where you in order to verify the information you just press it down right is a good idea also when it comes to the ergonomics of the whole thing if you want to make it square for the looks of it then maybe to make it more comfortable to hold the whole thing you add a little bulge down here just which maybe from an engineering point this could be holding the the batteries and so on i know you know what i am getting at here fel look at it from the side look g yeah looks good it is like that right then you hold it in your hand like this and maybe you bring the buttons nearer to the or the imp more important buttons nearer to the to the side yes s to the thumb to the thumb yeah yeah right maybe the buttons could like decrease in s the bigger ones you know they could actually be bigger in size than the ones that are less important the smaller here right you can also have it maybe talking about mobile phones again sliding open yeah with the lesser used functions on this part and then it slides into that part behind definitely just like 0 on a sort of side view and out something that you know it would sort of fit in the hand better so you know you just sort of have your hand well i was just thinking this this of course causes yeah right on the and your thumb would be up here type thing causes a problem for left or right handed people actually yeah that is also true so instantly sort of always going for the right handed person right but i mean the older so yeah is everyone who in here is right handed left handed right you guys all right handed right right handed yeah yeah so i am left handed but i so i can say that most things are designed for right handed people huh that is right like the written language or english maybe you could buy like a special left handed version of the remote maybe ow special order i would say i mean it should be probably designed for a right handed p person yeah but that is that is good that is w i think we have got a kind of a good plan there at least for what buttons we are going to use so we have got i like the scroll the scroll action and the i mean i am just just thinking maybe if it was circular with the sort of that sort of the sort of early idea we had with the way that was more like that whereas this is just a one handed thing that you sort of almost wrap round the thumb so you would have your you would put your hand into there with the thumb there and then your thumb would do you would have all the buttons sort of round here and that i think could work yeah on any hand kinda like holding a if you just had it like wrapped round there left or right right that minimizes it size wise as well minimize its size it could be you know really quite small then there is maybe another point of making it a 2 in one kind of thing if we have a smaller a smaller device that actually fits into the big one you give it the full functions in here and just a couple of functions in there yeah like your zap zapping device is just u channels up down volume and on off zapping functions that is it could be good yeah maybe so 2 remotes in one but then would be easier to lose one or the other that is right means the big one has to be sufficiently big and perhaps heavy so you can not move it around yeah yeah it actually is your coffee table make it a piece of furniture yes yes there you go or a statue or something okay well we need to finish up here so for the next so for the next before the next meeting w sh shall we work on you are watching trends to see what what kind of new information we have got going on yep manuel you are going to work on the components for for what we are going to use right let us go with our our rounded kind of fit in your hand let us explore the the possibility of having the 2 piece so one for the the quick zapping and possibly one you know with just that rounded part that fits into your hand alright yeah and ryan you work on how how well they will work with the us with the user how well it will work yeah so both of those concepts and okay i think we made some good progress here alright see you in i dunno i gu i guess we will take lunch in about half an hour or i guess we will be taking lunch shortly and then then in about half an hour after that we will probably have another meeting yeah alright okay
so 0 0 okay okay thanks for coming to this meeting how are we doing on our remote we have some ideas and some ideas for what people want well yeah i have done the goal i was asked to do anyway yeah i think all right let us just go over the agenda real quick for this meeting see if i can not get things moving along here a little bit better i will go over what we went over last time which should not take long then i believe each of you have a presentation i was sent a couple more requirements for our remote for what they want then we can come to a conclusion on what we want the remote to do and how it is going to do it hopefully and then we will have the closing which we will have 40 minutes for let us see the last meeting we went over meeting we went over who was responsible for what i am responsible for leading the meetings keeping the notes and coming up with the final presentation corin is our marketing expert she is going to figure out what the consumer wants ryan is our user interface designer and manuel is the industrial designer so you are going to come up with the ideas ryan and you are going to pick them apart we decided our remote we wanted to be a universal remote that everyone would want we want it to be modern fun different it needs to be sturdy easy to find defined so we are going to have that locator function and we want to be different and then we went over a couple of different ideas ball shaped phone the keyboard shape we decided that it should probably be one handed something we could use with one hand and that was our last meeting so why do not do each of you have a presentation yeah okay i will hand it off to you and does anyone you want to go 1st so we can maybe see what the people want what was it function 8 i am afraid slide shell to go to the next one okay all right right all right well this is my report which is going to be based pretty much on a survey that i was sent 0 gosh i have no idea okay just press the arrow key okay sorry i actually need need to see something else on my screen hit f 8 again yeah i think and then again yeah you want to be on both screens no i want something else on my mind is that possible yeah but i think you have to hit escape and then you can yeah okay but now you do not have that 0 hit f 8 again sorry guys i know i did not say it and then it should come up here shortly okay so is there no way i can give you the slideshow 0 give us the slideshow and something on your screen yeah 0 well i am not sure you can maybe minimize that screen and then have them both up at the same time i think okay so 1st of all the method that i used was by doing some marketing research by doing research on some interviews that were conducted and then some internet research and i was sent a report that was i think there were 100 remote users that they had interpreted they interviewed and so i will show you some of the results from that which i think will be helpful okay here are some of the findings they said that the users dislike the look and feel of their current remote controls and 75% of the users find their remote controls to be ugly which is a fairly significant number i would say and 80% of the users would be willing to spend more money if they could get a remote that would look fancy so i think that earlier we were on to something when we were talking about having it be a modern cool look i think that is definitely important they say the current remote controls do not match well the operating behavior of the user 75% of the users said they zap a lot and if anyone could clarify what that means zap does that just mean like changing the channel just using it yeah okay and 50% of the users say that they are only using 10% of the buttons on their remote control and there was something else they kept track of the frequency per hour and using certain buttons and some of them it looks like barely need to be included at all of course channel selection is used the most frequently and then teletext was the next volume and then power and then audio settings and screen settings and channel settings were practically never used so i think we could definitely eliminate or somehow combine a lot of the functions into one button the biggest user frustrations as we said 50% of people find that their remotes are lost somewhere and so i think a tracking device of some sort would be a good idea they said it takes 34% said it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote and 26% said that the controls are bad for rsi repetitive strident injury what is it just repetitive stride injury 0 okay that is what i guess okay and so base 0 okay as far as speech recognition goes the younger group looks like they are all for it from the 15 to 25 age group over 90% said they would pay more and it kind of just went down incrementally the groups the older they get it looks like the less willing they are to pay so maybe we could discuss this and decide if we think it is worth investing in this at least if we are targeting the younger groups and so in conclusion some things that i drew from this are that i think we were correct we definitely need to focus on a new modern appearance since so many people seem to be concerned about the ugliness of the remote control a multifunctional remote could be a good thing to explore so you only have one rather than 5 different remotes sitting all over your room we need to simplify the remote and reduce the remote and reduce the number of buttons get rid of the ones that do not seem to be serving much purpose and then lastly i thought that maybe we could discuss the idea of speech recognition and that is it okay very nice now we actually have some ideas of what people want what we should focus sign sorry sorry sorry did you guys get did you guys get time to write everything that you needed having just listened so i will join some of the things as well that sort of relevant to what i want to say okay so i am just going to yeah approach the technical functions design the method i used was to explore the technical functions of remote control and the simplest approach i came to is to change program and operate an electronic device remotely i mean that is an obvious thing to say but it is not attached to the device that you want to control control i had some things sent to me not very much to look at similar devices the findings from them and then personal preferences that i would suggest we discussed a universal one it is just been brought up again then but i think a universal remote control is actually quite a difficult object to design and possibly within maybe the budget that we do it because you would need to know all the specifications of all the electronic companies i am not sure if you ever come across a universal remote control yourself but you have to they are a nightmare to use you have to set them reset them to everything and that would only add buttons whereas i think the only is to take away buttons so i think it better maybe to concentrate on maybe just a universal one for tvs or maybe just one that you could design and then different people manufacturers could use it to set their specifications if the aim is to get something that is unique in design okay here is 2 pictures of remote controls there is just simple tv remote controls but one is user centered that is the one on the left you can straight away see there is less buttons and the other one is something engineered centered where that is more specified fully specified fully sort of the elaborate piece of equipment it is trying to control and i would ask which appeals more to the product that we want and on what the finds have said in the market research and stuff we are probably looking at something that should be user centered fewer buttons simple to use and if 10% is hidden away if 10% is what is used maybe the other 50% the buttons are used very rarely like programming they could be hidden maybe under some remote control you might have come across and maybe a little flip thing where they are hidden away and the main button are the ones you come across and finally so i have covered that our product i think should be used interface oriented like i said to concentrate a tv remote control a universe remote might be too complex and as what the major findings of market research have just said it is the image and the appearance and the appearance of the market research i just said it is the image and the appearance that people dislike so that we should concentrate on a set a trend and then change the fashion of remote controls and that is it what was your last conclusion on that one focus on the image of it the image of it the actual design okay good good thank you okay i will talk to you about the working design the interiors basically which is what dictates the design both the interface basically and the outer appearance because this is all the stuff that needs to go in there so unfortunately the people who were supposed to do this little presentation for me for me obviously we are too drunk to actually accomplish it i am going to do lots of the stuff on the board just this is the basic premise of a remote control the basic function is to send messages to another system okay so much is clear and energy source feeds an integrated circuit a chip that can compose messages often in the form of infrared bits this is the most mostly used there is also some sound systems but infrared is the better or the more more used system parts are cheaper as well a user interface controls the chip and accordingly the messages this is where my people screwed up basically so i am going to explain that on the board other what we have is different components that obviously need to go in there will start with an energy source which is usually a battery right since it is not feasible to add a cable to that this energy source of course is connected to the user interface itself which can be buttons whatever which in fact controls a chip right is the user interface and there we have the chip the way this goes normally is that this chip then controls an infrared lamp that sends out the signal of course the signal differs accordingly depending on what the chip tells the infrared lamp and of course that is controlled the chip itself is controlled by the user interface the way you normally do it is that you add a little device such as a lamp to the whole thing as well so that you know that it is working basically you press something get a response which is also comparatively important on one of those devices now this what we are talking about here or what i think should be discussed are these 2 components mostly the energy source for one thing can be altered what we probably cannot alter is of course the infrared the sending device basically the infrared lamp we cannot change the chip which controls the infrared lamp all right these 2 are components that we have to use and these are dictated by the whole function of the whole thing the lamp can be put on to the device it can not it does not have to be there this can be discussed as well user interface that is something we can also discuss as we have heard speech recognition is the hype obviously in the moment speech recognition interface we do not know that or if we just do the usual button thing or we have a touchpad or something like that that is something we can discuss that is something we can discuss and of course the energy source batteries solar cells who knows of course it is always a question whether these components are in fact available cheap enough developed enough but that is i suppose rather up to marketing not to you so we could to the industrial design the more complex we make it of course the more expensive it is going to back here but people have said that they would well younger generations of people said that they would pay more for a speech recognition remote so possibly it might be worth the investment i think speech recognition was one of those things where they have to be really good for them to work sometimes you find yourself saying things over and over and it is on your phone i agree and you need to sort of take into languages and then different dialects i suppose as well myself i find when there is something that speech recognition like you call on the phone and you try to change your telephone or power or something sometimes they have a speech recognition on the other end and you say one for this and you find your like you say like you said saying the same thing over and over and over i find myself especially if i am in a crowd of people looking really silly so maybe if you are sitting on your couch with a bunch of people then i do not know if would you want to keep saying stuff if you were watching stuff if you were watching something what do you want volume up volume down change the channel you know channel up channel down i do not know another thing about these figures is 91% of the young youngest age group said they would do it but probably a lot of them that is actually their parents money like i do not know if they would actually go out and purchase this themselves a 15 year old you know as well it would be the gimmick factor for the younger people it is a gimmick factor that they like at 1st and yeah but wear it get old yeah okay  let us see here let us see here yeah i guess so trade jack now i was sent a couple of things to modify our new requirements the remote is only going to be for the television which is good because we already decided your research showed that not only is universal remote more complicated it is more costly and your research showed that most of the people do not even use it i think you said 50% of the people only use 10% of the buttons so if we remove the universal remote then that solves that problem no teletext so we do not have to worry about that but we do have to use the company wants us to incorporate the corporate color and our slogan which is we put the fashion in electronics and our corporate colors are gray and yellow and we could probably get away with black too but so those are the 3 new requirements that i was told we need to use from all 3 of your presentations i think that we were on the right track a lot in our last meeting we want something that looks good we want something that is simple we want something that you can find easily and the speech recognition i guess is kind of give or take it is going to cost more the younger people say that they like it but it is probably i would say probably not worth the investment at this point in time so maybe we should just do away with speech recognition and that way we can focus on our form i did have a thought about the sort of the tracking thing is that it came with maybe a holder a holster whatever you want to call it that you should put it back in your remote but if you do not put it back in you press something like a little bustle on that and that just sort of sends out a beat to find where it is is not we that should not be too complex that would be good if we were going with our ball yeah it would be quite good or with you know i guess with any form that would be good you know that could be the charger for you know we could use rechargeable batteries in the remote and that would be solar or you know however you want to go about it the holder could also be the charging you unit with the locator button and if it were the ball you would no longer have to have a flat space on it yeah well you still have the how to hold on to it and yeah you put it on the couch table while you are watching it is going to roll away so that is not a theory so i guess after the meeting we will have some questionnaires and some summaries for what is going on then we will take lunch then we can come back and work on our individual work i will do the minutes let us see it looks like you are already on your way for working with the components chips what chips we need and what you know how to power it and whatnot user interface concept we want it to be something simple minimal number of buttons i guess our main i guess our main the main thing that we should focus on until then is probably deciding on a certain look yeah right did you have time earlier to work on that do you guys feel you have enough time in between our meetings to get everything done that you need to get done i will try i will look at the actual appearance in the next break i do still think it needs to be something that is ultimately one handed ball is probably not a good idea and even something that is held like that might be difficult so i think it still has to be a variation on maybe on a rectangle but maybe not as silly boring as playing as playing as a should we maybe shoot for a specific target group that way we could i mean if it were if we were shooting for young guys then it is a certain look to the remote or girls or older people would that you think that would help us find a specific form that we would want to pick out i do not know if that might come up from like the trend watching you will find anything more on that yeah not yet but maybe by the next meeting we will have some info on that okay so we know that the remote is going to have to be we will just say we have got a color scheme for it yeah yellow and you know yellow it is nice and bright with the buttons being gray or black and our slogan pasted somewhere on it on the bottom yeah maybe we could sketch so basically all of our remotes all of our typical remotes now are just kind of a rectangular sort maybe we could flare it or something you know so it is more of course this will look like a bone then let us go ahead and erase this i hope everyone memorized that i mean it might be to look at like sort of the shape and trend of like and trend of like things like mobile phones and shapes that they have been going yeah yeah they have gone from big brick block things which is what remote control is so sort of slinky small things yeah everybody has got a mobile phone right except for me now but they are all you know mobile phones they have kind of taken a turn to where they are really small small which may defeat our purpose for being able to locate our remote all the time but then again you do not want you know like the 1st mobile phone that was this big and you had a handbag to carry it around in so we have got basically what remotes look like now is kind of what we are stuck with stuck with maybe we could go with a square or something you know with minimal number of buttons i guess you have got you know with minimal number of buttons i guess you have got you know one through 9 typing in your channels you have got volume up and down channel up and down power power usually at the top a mute that is the classical design all you need i think a menu button maybe so you know if we want the remote to do other things like or i guess the tv to be able to change the tint and the color and all those kind of things that are built into tvs we just have that under one standard menu button where you go in press the menu button scroll up and down to select yeah talking of which maybe a scrolling function is not too bad okay so let us talk about maybe look at that from the side there maybe which is technically the easiest option would probably be like a scrolling wheel like this  yeah like a wheel on your mouse yeah sort of like that sort of you can even if we are coming from mice we can add a click function where you in order to verify the information you just press it down it is a good idea also when it comes to the ergonomics of the whole thing if you want to make it square for the looks of it then maybe make it more comfortable to hold the whole thing you add a little bulge down here which maybe from an engineering point this could be holding the batteries and so on i know you know what i am getting at here yeah look at it from the side it is like that then you hold it in your hand like this and maybe you bring the buttons nearer to the or the important buttons nearer to the to the thumb side yeah maybe the buttons could like decrease in the bigger ones that is actually bigger in size and the ones that are less important smaller here you can also have maybe talking about mobile phones again sliding open with the lesser used functions behind this part and then slides into that part because i just been sketched something just like on a sort of side view something that you know sort of fit in the hand better so you know you just sort of have your hand 0 it is just thinking this of course causes a problem for left or right handed people actually that yeah instantly i am always going for a right handed person i mean it is the old yeah is everyone who in here is right handed left handed he goes all right handed yeah so i am left handed but i so i can say say that most things are designed for right handed people that is right like the written language or english maybe you could buy like a special left handed version of the remote maybe 0 special order i would say i mean it should be probably designed for a right handed person yeah but that is good that is i think we have got kind of a good plan there at least for what buttons we are going to use so we have got i like the scroll action and the i mean i am just thinking maybe if it was circular with this sort of that sort of the sort of earlier idea we had with the way that was more like that whereas this is just a one handed thing that you sort of almost wrap around the thumb so you would have you put your hand into there the thumb there your thumb would do you would have all the buttons sort of round here and that i think could work yeah on any hand kind of like holding it if you just had it like right around there left all right that minimizes its size wise minimize its size you know really quite small then there is maybe another point of making it a 2 and one kind of thing if we have a smaller device that actually fits into the big one give it full functions in here and just a couple of functions in there yeah like your zep zapping device it is just channels up down volume and on off that is it yeah maybe so 2 remotes and one but then would be easier to lose one or the other that is right the big one has to be sufficiently big and perhaps heavy so you can not move it around make it a piece of furniture it actually is your coffee table yes yes there you go okay well we need to finish up here so for the next so for the next so for the next before the next meeting shall we work on you are watching trends to see what kind of new information we have got going on manuel you are going to work on the components for what we are going to use let us go with our rounded kind of fit in your hand let us explore the the the possibility of having the 2 piece so one for the quick zapping and possibly one you know with just that rounded part that fits into your hand and ryan you work on how how well they will work with the user so both of those concepts and okay i think we made some good progress here all right we will see you in i do not know i guess we will take lunch in about half an hour or i guess we will be taking lunch shortly and then in about half an hour after that we will probably have another meeting all right okay