so i will open our functional design meeting so i will play role of the secretary as also program ma manager so we will have the 3 presentations from the in industrial designer user interface designer and industrial design what is your talk marketing expert okay marketing experts and after that we will have the new product requirements the decision on the remote control functions and we will close the meetings after so i suppose the 1st to do the presentation will be the user interface designer okay so you are participant 2 11 no no no no you are one no i am participant one 33 it is 3 sorry i i think i am a okay never mind okay kay did you save your presentation in one in one sorry yeah is not that technical functions no sure so you did not save it maybe it is mine it is david jordan alright so name is jordan course so david jordan yeah so i will i let david jordan do his presentation okay no no this one does not want to be moved i think too great for email then okay so the 1st i will present the technical function design for user interface for our remote t v control yeah i i will focus on user interface design so move to the next slide as we know our remote c rem remote t v control it is very has very soph sophisticated functions as we show from this picture there is a lot of functions over i think over s 12 or 20 s functions of a remote t v control so how can we design a user interface with so sa with so many sophisticated functions let us move to next slide yeah so i so we want to design elegant easy to use inter interface a very good example is google as we know google it is a very successful because his powerful function but with very easy to use user interface so move to next s slide so my job is to design a google t v controller which i want to have sophisticated functions while with very easy to use user interface so that is the end of the talk the end of the presentation so you propose to to have the remote control which will be powerful with sophisticated functions but with very yeah powerful so powerful many functions and very easy to use yes yep so i dunno it is maybe difficult to have both i mean the the one on the right does not look so simple and to merge the 2 system huh yeah yeah you mean this one yeah yeah you have to learn the manual before using this remote control i suppose yep but if we have very very good user interface but but this is yeah it take less time for user to learn how to use it yeah and then yeah yeah you maybe you have some international standards where you know if you can use one is the other are or almost the same so the sign 0 you mean for the yeah pic pictograms or things like that yeah yeah for example i dunno here escape you know you have escape in computers you have so if you see escape you know that it should be the same 0 it should okay yeah so you have to the sh the user there for example the power off button it is something very international you know that the user should know so yeah such as maybe the yeah so go on go back and yeah but the question is how to merge you know the google system to the system alright yeah that is going to be the trick yeah that is my job that is your job that is my job it is not the easiest i have got to it you so you will propose us something which is yeah so powerful and easy to use yep okay okay powerful and easy to use so that is the point yeah that is the point so next i propose the industrial user interface to present things okay okay so you you are participant 2 yeah okay the rationale must be design or so baba is the the industrial designer okay so we can move to the next slide as you all know you know m my job is to design you know to give an industrial design of the remote control so the re basically the remote control will be you know infrared control so the problem is how to relate the how to relate the remote control device like for example this one i h i am holding in my hand and the t v so this one is leather bu based but i propose a nifra infrared base you know so so for me i think that it is better it is bet it is better to control t v so you know so it is it will be cheaper and it is less technology than you know for the cheap price we have for the cheap price we want to true so you mean that infrared control is a cheap technology i think it is cheaper than laser so yeah okay do y you know the requirements for the remote control 12 nearly 13 yeah what the cost is the cost yeah i think for the cost we want for the cost we want it is better to have 1212 a half let us see yeah you can move to the next slide so so the di the differen the findings you know what you find inside the re i the the system here inside it is just you know a bulb and an infrared bulb so here for example the infrared bulb will be here and the bulb it will be somewhere inside that might just so you can go to the next slide okay i have some kind of pictures you know here you have the b the bulb it is a blue the blue stuff here and the infrared and the infrared bulb it is the red stuff you know and so and you have the other subcomponent that are not really here so important yeah so what is this this is in fact some other component that are in between the electrical de the electronic device okay look but here what i wanted to emphasize it is just you know the bulb and okay so and the next slide it is the last one it is so it is i think it should be wire wireless re remote con because you know it is easier to manage and you know because you f the b the the battery problem can hold you know will you use a battery or the a wire to connected you or maybe some kind of thing that we can have both but you know i at my side prefer a wireless okay okay so if you have some question i did not answer okay what is the average price of this technology then well the avera the average prices i think that this technology will cost i dunno around €8 so or at least you know the so what the wireless remote control there is a wire with remote control you would yes you can it is so so bres you have to decide how how you will you know put some energy inside so you can think about wireless or you know it is it is a question that we can raise so we can think that you know with the wire you know without a wire we can have both also okay so you think that a cable between the remote control and the t v will not be a good idea okay okay no it wou maybe it will be cheaper i dunno i just may maybe you making a solu but this is what you would like to ask the user 1st and i do not think the user would be ready to have a yeah but wireless remote control yeah but some pa i do not think well yeah i do not think he would but in a sense i always want to have you know sometime i want to have wire because you know yeah but as industrial designer do you think that it will be feasible to have linked or to have link between the remote control and the television i am just asking you do you think it will be cheaper i do not think it will be too much could you answer please okay have to think about the question you know cause it is i think that you know you can always you know okay i think wha wha with the wire it is cheaper but you know the wireless it is more practical so yeah but i think the wireless problem is more the david jordan is problem as it is yeah the wire yeah true okay yeah i think it is more your problem mayb maybe you have just to to kind of research or try to ask people if they will like something wireless or not that is my job okay i am sorry that is the so now the yeah but it should be an agreement you know because even if you can think of the wireless it is it is it is the job of the the the g graphical user designer but you know if it is a lot cheaper and if you want to reach for example some the the money you have if you want to use so it can be good to have a wireless it it is a question okay so just think of the usability right so design a wireless remote control yeah just think of the problem if when you have wireless remote control and if you lose it yeah yeah i think it is would be easier to have a link between the remote control and the television yeah well that is actually one of the point yeah true this you will see in my presentation then so i will let you to do your presentation so yeah okay which is participant 4 so just trying to answer all the questions if the user would be happy to have something or something else we have made a study so could you go to next slide sorry for the functional recurrence so that is the standard method for marketing okay we had 100 subjects we observe their remote control use in a lab and then after all the experiments they had to fill up a questionnaire and see what was okay or not for them okay so then it is some statistics about what we observed and what they answered actually 75% of the users find m the most remote controls ugly okay so that is you mean the loo the look the outside the look how it look like okay yeah the the look is is bad for them so it is your job david maybe then 80% of users would spend more money actually if if the remote controls were not so ugly so this is where we could have yeah good market i guess if people are ready to pay more yeah so it is it is interesting information i think and then yeah the remote controls like the one you have shown previously it is not so does not fit the user requirements sometime because it is too many buttons and so on so we should change this as well and users are actually zapping a lot so they are using the device intensively that is something to take into account as well and you know 10% of the buttons are actually used in the remote control and this is one of the main point for me but i will come back to it later kay could you go next slide so as you said remote controls are often lost somewhere in the room so this is from the experiments we have done so if we could solve this problem this would be interesting for the user i think it takes too much time to learn how to use the remote control for 35% of the people and remote control are really bad for r s i problems for 26% of the users what is r s i r s i is like when you are using the same doing the same movement several times then you get injured yeah ah okay okay so those numbers are less important then the previous one but still it has to be taken to count so last slide so my president personal preferences for this problem is we have to meet the user needs if we can make it look fancy then we might sell more than our concurrent okay okay and definitely if it could have less buttons still maybe the same number of functions functions but less buttons this would definitely be a good way of selling more okay okay so okay and just to have an idea do you think you as the user interface designer to would it be possible to have less buttons and still have the same functionality and to have powerful remote control you think it is possible yeah sure yeah i think possible yeah because we can we can mix several function in one button yeah so lets you then you have less buttons yeah but do you think it will be easy to use but i am not sure because if you have many functions just for one button it would be quite difficult for the user to know yeah remember the user is not happy to read the yeah i think the the manuals manual it is no you you can have a switch menu so you can yeah but it has to be intuitive well for example yeah i think so like for for example you can you can category the function i i into several classes then for you can have a switch menu so you put the switch menu to it it tend to this kind of this category of functions yeah okay okay but then you you put the switch button then it switch to another category of functions yeah for example if you have remote control you you can rem you can control your t v and also you can control your recorder with a so there is a different functions but i if you you there is a button you can switch between control t v and control your recorder so we can has less buttons yeah but but what i am not so sure is about how to make the remote control look funny look fancy not funny look fancy this is a question that should be asked to the because different people have a different opinion about fancy you know if you ask the people maybe the the marketing people yeah yeah this is something we sh because maybe a colorful is fancy for some people but maybe simple and uniform colorful is fancy for some for other peoples so but this was 1st step and this was the 1st step yeah i think the solution is to have many colors of you know instead of having one gray standard yeah but i think it will increase the price of the production of the remote control specially distribution yeah yeah yeah maybe yeah maybe if you need to have special colors for remote controls it will cost more yeah personalized color because you know yeah it will cost little bit more yeah because maybe some people prefer a red remote control some people prefer black remote control yeah yeah yeah yeah but this is what we would ask to the users so and also f maybe we can have di di we can have several options so user can select which color they prefer so yeah yeah but as soon as you speak about options it means that the price increases yeah remember it is €12 and we do not really want the price to be too too high because we want to be able to produce it so we want something fancy as previously said florent something very easy to use powerful and also as it is written here 75% of users they zap lot so maybe just having many functions in one button is not that good if you want to zap a lot and they do not really want to zap between functions of their remote control they want to zap between channels on t v so i think you have quite lot of points to to think about and to discuss it with the other members yeah yeah yeah so is it okay for your presentation nothing else to to add yeah it is done just yeah if we would if we could remember like not too many buttons and make it look fancy i think it would make it okay so so i had some so new information about the product requirements so you will have to take care of it of it in your thinking in your designing of the remote control so the 1st one is that for the designing of the remote control we do not really want to use the teletext anymore as it is something that is it is is lame or no yeah because now everybody has internet at home so it is better to use internet then teletext yeah so you will have to think about it in your in in the design of your remote control yep and also the remote control will only be used for television so for y for you your designing you are not you will not be you will not had buttons to just to manipulate yeah to control the recorder or maybe the garage door or things like that control it is because if we want to to do remote control which will be used for for the television for the recorder for the camcorder and all the others it will become too complex and it will increase the pli the price and we can not do that we really want to focus on the remote control for the television is it okay okay but there is balance between function and the cost so maybe it will be easier for you to to design it to have very powerful and easy yeah okay and also we want the image of the real reaction be recognizable in the product such as the color and s the slogan yeah i mean that is if you want to buy a remote control and if you go in a shop and if you see the remote control you will recognize directly that s it is our product hm so you will have to use the color of the product of the okay of the of real reaction okay so and also so has to be yellow yeah yellow as we say we put the fashion in electronics so it has to be a fashion remote control okay fancy fashion powerful easy to use require lot of requirements but yeah for cheap remote control yeah and cheap yeah a low cost yeah but that is your your job to find something matches yeah yeah cause what i am thinking is how will you will connect the t v to internet so this is i do not think it is part of the remote control design anyway maybe not but mayb it is maybe more in browsing yeah but this this mean that your t v would be able to you know connect to internet you know surf the web yeah there is that box in 0 of it yeah a pi there is that box in the t v so with the set box you you can connect internet with your t v okay ok hm it is it is not so popular now it is pop i do not think it is popular so that is the problem so you had i if you are designing a remote control for you know the global usage so if people do not have the technology global okay so so everybody is okay with the new requirements so i i so as as for the color what what do you think i think it has to be yellow yellow yeah do you think that people like the color yellow yellow t v remote control min maybe you can change the color but the image of the society has to be recognized okay okay yeah i think if you have you know th like a yellow ribbon here is the double r why you go it has to be fashion or should be yeah so does not need to be completely yellow but just okay so you have to yeah it has to be a fashion and really be the image of the society just when you enter you say 00 it is real reaction think it is a re reaction remote control so okay okay okay and also it has to be attractive of course because if you want to sale to sell the remote control it is okay regarding the 1st line what so we are just expecting no more use of the teletext yeah and that is it yeah but i dunno but why nobody is a threat to me it is already changed for i think it would be simpler okay so i will close the meeting just after that we will have lunch break and you will have in 30 minutes individual work y you you will have as the i d i do not remember what is industr industrial designer to put pon yeah industrial designer yeah industrial designer component component yeah and the user interface designer to work on the user interface concept okay and florent to work my subject yep and so specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach okay it is okay yeah i think the session is closed good and by the way mister david jordan please record your presentations in your own folder okay okay that is clear okay not in mine okay should be better
i am sorry i am gonnae i am fine ready see yeah it is better yeah so i will have in our functional design meeting so i will play the role of the secretary as also program manager so we will have the 3 presentations from the industry designer user interface designer and some designer and marketing experts and after that we will have the new project requirements the decision on the remote control functions and we will close the meetings after so i suppose the 1st to do the presentation will be the user induced presentation will be the user induced will be the user interface designer okay so you are a participant 2 one no no no you one no i am a participant one but i am in my house okay never mind okay did you save your presentation in one so yeah this yeah technical functions i am not sure so you did not save it maybe yeah it is my 0 it is david jordan so david jordan so david jordan yeah so i let david jordan to his presentation okay no this one does not want to be moved i think she will play it for you maybe so 1st i will present the technical function design for user interface for our remote tv control i will focus on user interface design so move to the next slide as we know remote tv control has very sophisticated functions as we show from this picture there is a lot of functions over i think over 12 or 20 functions of a remote tv control so how can we design a user interface with so many sophisticated functions let us move to next slides yeah so we want to design a to design elegant easy to use in the interface a very good example is google as we know google is very successful because it is a powerful function but it is very easy to use the interface so move to next slides so my job is to design a google tv control which i want to have sophisticated functions while it is very easy to use the interface so that is the end of the time so you proposed you to have the remote control which will be powerful with sophisticated functions but it is very powerful many functions and very easy to use yeah but it is maybe difficult to have both i mean the one on the right does not look so simple yeah you mean this one yeah you have to learn the manual before using this remote control i suppose yeah but if we have very good user interface it takes less time for user to learn how to use it and maybe you have some international standards some international standards where you know if you can use one is the other are almost the same so the sign are you mean for the yeah pictograms or things like yeah for example i do not know here escape you know you have escape in computers you have so if you see escape you know that it should 0 okay yeah the user should know the user there for example the power of button it is something really international you know that so yeah and so such as maybe go on go back the question is how to merge the google system to the system yeah that is my job that is my job it is not easy it is easy it is easy so you will propose something which is so powerful and easy to use yeah power and easy to use so that is the point ok so next i propose so next i propose the industrial user interface to present things so you are that is on true yeah okay wait a little baba so what is your name so baba is the industrial design yeah designer designer okay so you can move to the next slide as you all know you know my job is to design you know to give an initial design of the remote control so basically the remote control will be you know infrared control so the problem is how to relate the remote control device like for example this one i am holding in my hand and the tv so this one is laser based but i propose a infrared based so for me i think that it is better it is better to control tv so it will be cheaper and it is less technology than you know for the cheap price we have so you mean that infrared control is a cheap technology technology i think it is cheaper than leather yeah you know the requirements for the remote control 12 or nearly 13 yeah i think for the cost you want for the cost you want it is better to have so yeah you can move to the next slide so the different the findings you know what you will find inside the the system here inside it is just a bulb and an infrared bulb so here for example the infrared bulb will be here and and the bulb it will be somewhere inside that manages you can go to the next slide i have some kind of pictures you know here you have the bulb it is the blue the blue stuff here and the infried and the infrared and the infrared it is the right stuff here and so and you have the other sub component are not really here so important what is this this is in fact some of the components that are in between the electronic device but here what i wanted to emphasize is just the bell bent and the next slide the last one so i think it should be wireless remote because it is easier to manage and you know it is easier to manage and you know because if the battery problem can hold you use the battery or the wire to connect you or maybe some kind of things that you can have both but you know i myself prefer a wireless okay if you have some question i did not answer what is the average price of this technology then the average the average prices i think that this technology will costs around €8 so only you know the wireless remove control there is the wire remote control yes it is a problem is you have to decide how you will put some energy inside so you can think about wireless or you know it is a question that we can rise we can think that with a wire without a wire we can have both okay so you think that a cable between the remote corner and the tv will not be a good idea okay now maybe it would be cheaper i do not know i am just maybe making silly this is what you would like to ask the user 1st and i do not think the user would be ready to have a vardis remote control yeah but i do not think it would work in any sense i always want to have you know sometimes i want to have wire because yeah but as industrial designer do you think that it will be feasible to have linked or do you have a link between the remote control and the television i am just asking you do you think it will be cheaper i do not think it will be actually could you answer please i have to think about the question you know i think that you know you can always you know i think with the wire it is cheaper but you know the wireless it is more practical so yeah but i think the wireless problem is more the david jordan is problem as it is the wire yeah yeah true i think it is more your problem maybe maybe you have just to to kind of research or try to ask people if they will like something wireless or not that is my job okay go sorry no so yeah but it should be an agreement you know because even if you can think the wireless it is it is the job of the graphical user designer but you know if it is a lot cheaper and if you want to reach for example some the money we have if you want to use so it can be good to have wireless it is a question okay right so just think of the usability desire of wireless remote just think of the problem when you have a wireless remote control and if you lose it i think it would be easier to have a link between the remote control and the television that is actually one of the point yeah true this you will see in my presentation then so i will let you to your presentation which is participant for so just trying to answer all the questions if the user would be happy to have something or something else we have made a study so could you go to next slide sorry for the functional requirements so that is the standard method for marketing okay we have 100 subjects we observed their remote control use in a lab and then after all the experiments they had to fill up a questionnaire and see what was okay or not for them okay so then it is some statistics about what we observed and what they answered actually 75% of the users find the most remote controls ugly so that is you mean the look the look yeah the look is bad for them so it is your job david maybe then 80% of users would spend more money actually if the remote controls were not so ugly so this is where we could have yeah good market i guess if people are ready to pay more so it is interesting information i think and then yeah the remote controls like the one you have shown previously it does not fit the user requirement sometimes because it is too many buttons and so on so we should change this as well and users are actually zapping a lot so they are using the device intensively that is something to take into account as well and you know 10% of the buttons are actually used in a remote control and this is one of the main point for me but i will come back to it later later could you go to the next slide so as you said remote controls are often lost somewhere in the room so this is from the experiments we have done so if we could solve this problem this would be interesting for the user i think it takes too much time to learn how to use the remote control for 35% of the people and remote control are really bad for rsi problems for 26% of the users what is rsi rsi is like when you are using the same doing the same moment several times then you get injured okay so those numbers are less important than the previous one but still it has to be taken to count so last slide so my personal preference is for this problem is we have to meet the user needs if we can make it look fancy then we might sell more than our concurrent and definitely if it could have less buttons still maybe the same number of functions but less buttons this would definitely be a good way of selling more so okay and just should you have an idea do you think you as the user interface designer it would be possible to have less buttons and still have the same functionality and to have powerful remote control do you think it is possible yeah i think it is possible yeah you can mix several functions in one button yeah so then you have less buttons yeah but i am not sure but you think it will be easy to use because if you have many functions just for one button it would be quite difficult for the user to know remember the user is not happy to read the manual you can have a switch menu so you can it has to be intuitive yeah i think so for example you can category the function into several classes then you can have a switch menu so you put the switch menu to it tend to this kind of this category of functions then you put the switch button then it switch to another category of functions for example if you have a remote control you can control your tv and also you can control your recorder so there is different functions but if there is a button you can switch between control tv and control recorder so you can have less buttons but i am not sure it is about how to make the remote control look funny look fancy fancy this is a question that should be asked to the because different people have different opinion about fancy if you ask the people maybe the market people yeah this is something we maybe a colorful is fancy for some people but maybe simple and uniform color for fancy for some for other people so the solution is to have many colors of you know instead of having one gray yeah but i think it will increase the price of the production of the remote control yeah yeah maybe yeah if you need to have special colors for remote controls it will cost more color because yeah it will cost a bit more because maybe some people prefer a red blue contour some people prefer black yeah but this is what we would ask to the users so and we can have several options so user can select which color they prefer yeah but as soon as you speak about options it means that the price increases and we do not really want the price to be too high because we will not be able to produce it so so we want something fancy as previously said florent something very easy to use powerful and also as it is written here 75% of users they zap a lot so maybe just having many functions in one button is not that good if you want to zap a lot they do not really want to zap between functions of their remote control they want to zap between channels on the tv so i think you have quite a lot of points to think about and to discuss with the other members so is it okay for your presentation nothing else to add yeah it is done just yeah if we would if we could remember like not too many buttons and make it look fancy i think it would make it okay so i had some new information about the project requirements so you will have to take care of it in your thinking and your designing of the remote control so the 1st one is that for the designing of the remote control we do not really want to use the teletext anymore as it is something that is lane yeah because now everybody has internet at home so it is better to use internet than teletext yeah so you will have to think about it in the design of your remote control and also the remote control will only be used for television so for you for you designing you will not be you will not have buttons to just manipulate yeah to control the recorder or maybe the garage door or things like that it is because if we want to do a remote control which will be useful for the television for the recorder for the camcorder and all the others it will become too complex and it will increase the price and we can not do that we really want to focus on a remote control for the television is it okay but there is balance between functioning and the cost so maybe it will be easier for you to design it to have very powerful and easy and also want the image of real reaction be recognizable in the product such as the color and the slogan i mean that is if you want to buy a remote control and if you go in a shop and if you see the remote control you will recognize directly that it is our product so you will have to use the color of the product of them of the reaction and also so it has to be yellow yeah as we say we put the fashion in electronics so it has to be a fashion remote control fancy fashion powerful easy to use quite a lot of requirements for cheap remote control yeah yeah a low cost yeah but that is your job to find something what i am thinking is how you will connect the tv to internet i do not think it is part of the remote control design maybe not it will be more in browsing yeah but this means that your tv will be able to connect to internet you know serve the web yeah there is a set box in the tv so with the set box you can connect internet with your tv okay but it is not so popular now it is popular i do not think it is popular so that is the problem you are designing a remote control for you know the global usage so if people do not have the technology so so so everybody is okay so everybody is okay with a new requirements as for the color what do you think i think it has to be yellow yellow yeah yellow do you think that people like the color yellow remote culture maybe you can change the color but the image of the society has to be recognized okay yeah i think if you have you know like a yellow or one here is the double art it just to be fashion yeah so so you have to be completely yellow but just yeah it has to be a fashion and really be the image of the society okay just when you enter you say 0 it is a real reaction think it is a real reaction okay remote control and also it has to be attractive of course because if you want to sell the remote control okay it is okay regarding the 1st line what so we are just expecting no more use of the normal use of the teletext yeah and that is it yeah i do not know why no use of teletex maybe so what would it change for i think it would be simpler  yeah okay so i will close the meeting just after that we will have lunch break and you will have in 30 minutes of individual work you will have as the idea i do not remember what is industrial designer to put and the user interface designer to work on the user interface concept and florent to work on the user interface concept and florent to work can i subject and so specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach it is okay yeah yeah i think the session is closed good thank you and by the way mister david jordan please record your presentations in your own folder okay not in mine it should be better okay that is okay okay okay okay good okay okay that was a funny one it was a funny one now please now it was very good