okay right okay alright is everyone here yep yep okay this is our conceptual design meeting and i will just take a few minutes and go through the previous minutes then each of you will have your presentation and then we will need to make a decision on the concept for the remote control and then we will have 40 minutes for finishing up i will go through the mee through the minutes 1st we just refreshed our our goal of making the finest remote control available we decided that or we know that we need to use company colors company logo and our marketing expert gave us some i information from interviews with a 100 different remote users with some statistics that backed basically what we were thinking before people thought their remotes were ugly that remotes zap a lot they only use a finite amount of buttons and that they often lose the it is easy to lose a remote which were all things we were thinking we would want to make it simple and some sort of locator either a button or tracking device and that it should look different than what is out there kind of mixed mixed response on the speech recognition the younger people said they wanted it older people did not i think we decided that the expense was not necessarily worth it and that it was probably a gimmick that would increasingly wear on the consumers nerves then the user interface designer explored some of the technical functions of the remote the simple versus the the complex the simple one being better for a user the complex better for an engineer and some personal preferences that were found in that would be that it should be a user oriented remote something simple and that we did not want to go with a universal remote because increasing cost and increasing complexity we would just have a t v remote and that we should also focus on the appearance of the remote have it s be something that looks different and finally our industrial designer gave us a rundown of how the remote will work from energy source what we would use batteries because we do not want to have a a cable how that would power the remote and the lamp if we were to to have one the user interface then would connect to a chip which would work with the infrared controls to send the signal to the t v i believe then we came up with a couple of ideas for what we think the design of the remote will be something that will fit into easily into someone is hand and with a just a few buttons just the basics and with a scrolling function also okay and i will leave that leave it at that so marketing okay we are watching trends yep can i have your cable please i suppose that you can have this thanks okay so i was looking at trend watching unfortunately i was not given too much information i was given a brief executive summary and then an update on some recent fashion trends that we might like to look at and then i will just tell you some personal preferences that i got from that okay the most important finding was that the fancy look and feel seems to be twice as important to the users as the current functional look and feel design which i think we have kind of already discussed before the 2nd most important finding was that the remote should be technologically innovative and again these are all things we have kind of already come up with on our own but this just backs it up and thirdly the remote would be easy to use as far as fashion update we have learned that fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for cloths shoes and furniture so that might be a bit of a challenge to incorporate this into our remote but we can try and also as opposed to last year this year the material is expected to be spongy in feel okay so from that as we have already said we need to focus on a fancy look and feel i think we have already discovered that it is kind of hard to go away from the traditional rectangular design but i think that even if it is very subtle we need to kind of trick our consumers so they at least get the idea that they are getting something that is new and modern and sleek and whether it is through the shape or the colors or all of that for technologically innovative we have talked about the tracking device we brought up the idea of having 2 pieces which we could discuss further and manuel had suggested the energy source and the user interface discussing some of those that we could change a little bit we need to keep it simple have limited buttons which i think the 2 piece idea might be really beneficial for we need to incorporate this fashion trend of fruits and vegetables i do not know i mean i guess the 2 options are if we had our remote in the shape of a fruit or vegetable a banana shape 0 it was sort of banana shaped yeah yeah right or with exterior designs but my question is i mean the stereotypically speaking you kind of picture males with their remote controls and i am not sure how they would feel about having fruity logos on the outside so maybe we could have something that is somewhat removable or i do not know different options for female male target groups and then the spongy feel i guess we could look at mobile phones and other technology that is out there c and look at different types of material that might please our users who want spongy feeling remote controls so that is that so possibly like a sorry just to butt in for a 2nd alright possibly like a cover like they have for mobile phones that is what i was thinking yeah those like yeah sort of spongy ones you have one with a flag and one with a banana and one that is a spongy yeah so when you buy your remote you can buy feel to it you can various coverings various covers what is it called cust you personalized yeah personalize your remote we could leave that to the cover department yeah we all know they have got nothing to do all day okay why can not i see the crazy yeah i talking about the interface concept and how the customer relates to will use the consumer will use the actual device so i have looked at some of the stuff i was sent try and get some inspiration but keep in mind that our own ideas that we had i was sent some information from the company saying that they the technology department have devised a new speech recognition technology where you can program questions into such devices they gave an example of a coffee machine where you program a question you program the answer and the machine responds accordingly okay there is different ways of a user can use products l like a remote there is a graphical use where you you look at pictures and well on a screen a command line where you obviously type things in and you get a response and then it ju that is just to point out the sort of inconsistent u sort of use of interface in remotes you can not really see that picture well but there is various different remotes once again with lots of different buttons on making it more complicated so then i had a look at new products that are on the market not necessarily remote controls but ones that you will recognize this is the voice there is a voice recognition remote control which can control mus multiple devices i have a there is a picture you surf your favorite channels with your voice store up to 80 speech samples controls 4 devices t v cable satellite v c r d v d and audio and you can record your own v verbal labels that are connected to remote control functions so the technology is there the one on the left is very similar to what we drew up on the board in the previous meeting where there has scroll down functions on the side you can sort of just make those out and then on the right is obviously an ipod which is you know possibly one of the simplest things to use out there and really is and all that is is just a a nice big scroll menu that y you sort of go through that is a possibility and nothing is simpler really then there is things like this which is a a a kid is remote where the the parents have the facility to control and program what children can watch before so the remote control it 0 only allows them to access the channels that their parents want them to watch and it means that th children have a novelty of having their own remote control so i do not know if there is a possibility of having one remote contr you know like we just had 2 components maybe it can have more components you know different remotes the point made at the end there here is that you have to be sort of be need to be clear on your devices as to what you know things you use sometimes an arrow pointing down which may suggest volume down could become confused just as a v for volume just little things like that which would need to be made clear in the design i think d carrying on from what i have already said a user friendly remote with minimum buttons maybe we have so suggested this 2 part thing where if it was to have a speech recognition thing you could maybe control that on the do it or program all that on the control bit and then just have the simple sort of hand held thing that we sort of devised earlier as the actual remote i do not it could be a graphical display the actual remote contr the actual control port maybe could have like an ipod where you just sort of control through the menus stuff like gets more and more compli complicated and then the the hand held bit should be ergonomically designed and that is it why am i 0 yeah just where are we just to sort of show you m they have even got things like that huge things which is just for your gr 90 year old grandma yeah that is industrial design for cranes stuff like that yeah yeah notice the giant dog bone shape dunno and that yeah makes sense makes sense also good for animals yeah see things why is my screen crazy well let us see i am going to bore you with a couple of descriptions of the interior just to to make it more obvious what we have to fit in there and that we do have to fit the stuff in there i have more information on possible materials as well what we can and cannot do but let us just wait for this to load up and i will show you what we are talking about here okay the details of the components design as you can see there what we have is the board main board of the remote control the underside that is pretty cheap piece of of technology really top left side you can see the chip which is the what we were talking about this was is the device to recognize the signals the input and it passes it on to a row of further transistors and stuff like that on the right side that actually amplify the signal which later on is being is being transferred to a infrared lamp which then of course shines infrared light onto the television which then will recognize what signal it is getting and will do what you tell it so much for the the workings of the of the remote control itself its job is to wait for you to press a key then to translate that key press into infrared light signals that are received by the television when you press a key you complete a specific connection the chip senses the connection and knows what button you pressed it produces a morse code line signal specific to that button right pretty clear transistor amplifies the signal and then sends the m sends the signal to the l e d which translates the signal into infrared light the sensor in the t v can see the infrared light and seeing the signal reacts appropriately this is the circuit board from the other side the lower part of it i do not know if you can see that properly with the green greenish board is is what we what we saw in the 1st the 1st slide just flipped over you can see the circuit board itself that is the cheapest way to make electronic connections basically on the market what you do is you have do not have cables but you have the connections actually in these in these lines on the on the board these are the actual keys that are being pressed they close the electric circuit that then sends the signal to the chip on the other side that would be behind here which sends it over to the transistors and all that stuff that amplify the signal and all that is being sent to the infrared lamp up there now as you can see this is the the rubber button version of it the way it works is that you have the keys here the rubber button has a little metal plate on the other side which closes the circuit here and thus gives on the signal now this is the simple version we are talking this this the simple and cheapest version at the same time we are talking something more complicated of course it is going to be more expensive as well and not only that we are also restricted in the use of our outer shell or in the material that we could use for our outer shell i have gotten some information that we could use for the case material plastic rubber as well rubber that is used in these anti stress balls so it is pretty squishy spongy that would that would serve that purpose we could also use wood or titanium what is the approximate per 100000 for the titanium 0 fya i do not have an information on that however our company obviously can provide us with with the titanium so i assume i am i was given an okay to use it it certainly is an expensive material i am aware of that but i was given an okay but there are certain restrictions to certain materials now let us 1st go through the list with the materials so we what we can use is plastic rubber wood and titanium can also mix these as for the energy source we were talking about that shortly in the other meeting what we could use is or what i was offered or what we could use is a basic bateer battery right a dynamo interestingly enough we could use solar cells or a device that was not n not further specified that provides kinetic energy such as like watches you know where you just move them m move the the actual device and this pr provides it with with some energy so obviously i personally have to say that dynamo is out of the question really you do not want to wind up your remote control before you can use it right solar cell is interesting may fail though every here and there would you have to leave it by the window yeah yeah or you know you lose it it lies behind the couch for a week and yeah yeah always the you works well in arizona but in edinburgh not so but exactly y probably not yeah yeah the kinetic energy thing might work but the same problem you leave it lying around and you 1st have to shake it before it it starts to work so i would say what we are stuck with really is the basic battery which also makes a base station basically obsolete we do not need that then however our interface options are push buttons in which in the production of which or in manufacture of which our company is expert however we have discussed that scroll wheels are a better option and they are possible we have an okay for scroll wheels okay however when it comes to the scroll wheel of the ipod i have one big objection and that is that we have to fit an l c d into the remote control as well this however may exclude certain materials if you have a squishy kind of remote control then an l c d screen may be affected by the movement hence we might not be able to put it in there so there is also restrictions to when it comes to the chip if we have a more sophistic sophisticated scroll wheel rather than this very basic set up that we that i have just presented the chip has to be more s more sophisticated and thus more expensive as well i do not have any details to when it comes to the cost but it will be a significant difference i would rather say drop the titanium and therefore let us have a more sophisticated chip but that is not up to me to decide really so that is for the for the scroll wheel it limits our choice and squishy is hip so i would say rather not go for for that let us see now solar cells cannot be used on a curved or latex surface or remote control but obviously that is not our problem since we have decided or against solar cells i assume right or is anybody still alright yeah no i think i think batteries are probably the way to go no alright yeah which makes it very conventional but therefore traditional i assume with the titanium we cannot make it a curved design we would just be able to make it flat and and yeah a straight design pretty much which i assume would exclude some of the more sophisticated versions would the sort of spongy and the the plasticky thing y you can get those mobile phones that initially have a it is plastic but then they have sort of a a s a cover on it which is just sort of soft and stuff like a covering yeah so i do not know if that would still be possible to have you know in plastic but then where do people hold it just all be sort of spongy yeah the we can have the fruits and vegetables on the spongy parts so they can remove it so you as the the possibility of having a a graphical display on it like a screen like the ipod you can have an l c d screen but therefore no rubber will be used right alright so plastic yes titanium yes but this will of course influence the form with plastic as i understand it you can use any form latex is tricky or rubber and and titanium also seems to be tricky when it comes to the form so the way to go is if you want a scroll wheel you either make it flat and angular add an l c d screen and then you can basically choose either plastic or titanium yeah or wood even if you want to make it a particular shape use plastic add an l c d screen add a scroll wheel that will be fine yeah or make it just push buttons basically plastic gives you the b biggest variety of of options maybe not the nicest feel or not much originality really so the ru wait the rubbery we can shape it however we want or the rubbery we cannot with rubber we could sh pretty much shape it the way we wanted it but we cannot add scroll wheels and we cannot add an l c d screen kay that is the tricky thing could we not you know have a shape with a scroll and the screen and then j just sort of that initial shape we had just which is sort of banana esque so that is thing if we did it yellow yeah and you know you just p stick on just sort of rubber things that that sort of grip the thumb bit they would not have any they are just on the exterior they would not be necessary to the actual shape of the thing is that an option a plastic shell with a rubbery coating on at certain spots s certainly can be done yes yeah if that does not affect the functional side of it all yeah like say just the underside or so then it can be done i assume yeah so the fruit design how about affecting the surface of the actual remote control say we do not make it p a particular fruit shape obviously but give it like the surface of an orange banana whatever you name it what about a smell just design wise t to the remote nice one you could just sell it in different colors as well i suppose in different ye yellows bright citrus colors yeah i do not suppose we have to stick to co well we we are supposed to stick to the company colors though that is yellow and gray stick to the colors yeah 0 yeah yellow and gray yellow and gray so what have we lemon banana is grapefruit grapefruit grapefruit is what we would go for when it comes to the outer appearance perhaps but i would say if i were to make a decision i would probably put the fruit aspect at the lower lower end of the spectrum of of importance yeah i think having a shape could be a little ridiculous like yeah well we have it banana shaped already kind of well we kinda do yeah yeah so well perhaps the implied shape will be enough to lure that fruit minded remote buyer yeah and if it is yellow and if it if it was done yellow which is a company color right it is it is yellow i it is yellow it is curved gray buttons yeah well so why not add a couple of gray stripes and make it look like a banana it is sort of couple of couple of gray stripes yeah we could put the gray stripes on the bottom so that that person could turn it over on the the gr the rubbery grips could be gray it would look like a banana just sitting on their table yeah there you go rather than rather th it could and then you could actually h put the banana shaped thing on the fruit bowl 0 on the coffee table and then people would always know where it was maybe the holder if we were to have a holder it could be shaped like a fruit nice could look like a fruit bowl it could be an ape could be it could be an ape or a fruit bowl yeah hey we could have a variety of options here yeah kay yeah do you have more to your presentation that is pretty much it i informed you about the materials what the interior has to look like and what the limitations to certain materials are on there you go 0 okay i am going to plug in here real quick sure if i could hang on there you go like i said we have to make a decision on a couple of these items here ow ow so is the 2 piece idea out or have we not decided well we sort of rid of that because going to use a battery and the base station might not be necessary 0 right okay well we can still design a 2 piece remote without having a base having one of them be a base station yeah yeah but just have it be an optional either big remote with lots of functions or you take out the smaller piece we can still do that however of course this would be like designing 2 remotes pretty much so which then as i understand it would probably limit the limit again the the the use of certain materials because they would be too expensive say like have a scroll wheel and on both of them or have an l c d screen and so on so on you would probably have to stick rather with a just traditional rubber button design which we saw there but could be done of course okay so these are the decisions that we do need to make by the end of this meeting for our components concept we need to come up with the energy source the chip on print and the case probably case material and probably a shape also and then for the user interface concept we need to decide what the tape what what the type is and what kind of supplements we will have energy source i think we have i think we have decided batteries although not exciting are probably our best bet right and we have 5 minutes okay when it comes to the chip on print as i said the the more advanced features you want the fancier the chip has to be and the more expensive if you want just a normal button version the chip on print is going to be a cheap one right kay so i guess we should pick the case then if we go with the plasticky case or the the plastic case then the chip on print is still kind of we could have either or we could have a complex one or a a non complex yeah but did we decide that the rubbery feel was important enough to us well what about what you said like putting the just just maybe yeah finger grips just on top of the plastic just a little bit of okay so we would we would have the l c d screen as long as the pla the rubber is nowhere near the controls yes kay so i guess the case would be plastic with perhaps that is not even enough rubber to qualify as being part of it it is more of a su it is more of a supplement maybe yeah yeah m more of a l lamination perhaps yeah so then for the scroll are we going for the ipod type yeah i think so yeah i think okay which will require a more expensive chip on print right yes it does kay so i guess that is that is that about it so we have a good idea of what we are going to need to to do on this right okay so we will have another meeting in 30 minutes here is what is going to be going on ryan you will be working on the user interface design manuel you will be working on the look and feel design right corrine we will want a product evaluation and the 2 of you get to play with the modeling components and maybe and and get us a prototype which should go along well with your look and feel design and your interface so that basically just be working on the prototype we will accomplish your other 2 actions alright okay let us do it
i am sorry okay okay all right is everyone here yeah okay this is our conceptual design meeting i will just take a few minutes and go through the previous minutes then each of you will have your presentation and then we will need to make a decision on the concept for the remote control and then we will have 40 minutes for finishing up and we will go through the minutes 1st we just refreshed our our goal of making the finest remote control available we decided that or we know that we need to use company colors company logo and our marketing expert gave us some information from interviews with 100 different remote users with some statistics that backed basically what we were thinking before people thought the remotes were ugly that remotes zap a lot they only use a finite amount of buttons and that they often lose that is easy to lose remote which were all things we were thinking we would want to make it simple and some sort of locator there is a button or tracking device and that it should look different than what is out there kind of mixed response on the speech recognition the younger people said they wanted it older people did not i think we decided that the expense was not necessarily worth it and that it was probably a gimmick that would increasingly wear on the consumer is nerves then the user interface designer explored some of the user interface designer explored some of the the technical functions of the remote the simple versus the complex the simple one being better for a user the complex better for an engineer and some personal preferences that were found in that would be that it should be a user oriented remote something simple and that we did not want to go with a universal remote because increasing an increasing complexity we would just have a tv remote and that we should also focus on the appearance of the remote have it be something that looks different and finally our industrial designer gave us a rundown of how the remote will work from energy source what we would use batteries because we do not want to have a cable how that would power the remote and the lamp if we were to have one the user interface then would connect to a chip which would work with the infrared controls to send the signal to the tv i believe then we came up with with a couple ideas for what we think the design of the remote will be something that will fit into easily into someone is hand and with a just a few buttons just the basics and with a scrolling function okay and i will leave it at that so marketing we are watching trends yep can i have your i suppose that you can have this okay okay unfortunately i was not given too much information i was given a brief executive summary and then an update on some recent fashion trends that we might like to look at and then i will just tell you some personal preferences that i got from that okay the most important finding was that the fancy look and feel seems to be twice as important to the users as the current functional look and feel look and feel design which i think we have kind of already discussed before the 2nd most important finding was that the remote should be technologically innovative and again these are all things we have kind of already come up with on our own but this just backs it up and thirdly the remote should be easy to use as far as fashion update we have learned that fruits and vegetables will be the most important thing important theme for cloths shoes and furniture so that might be a bit of a challenge to incorporate this into our remote but we can try and also as opposed to last year this year the material is expected to be spongy and feel okay so from that as we have already said we need to focus on a fancy look and feel i think we have already discovered that it is kind of hard to go away from the traditional rectangular design but i think that even if it is very subtle we need to kind of trick our consumers so they at least get the idea that they are getting something that is new and modern and sleek and whether it is through the shape or the colors or all of that for technologically innovative we have talked about the tracking device we brought up the idea of having 2 pieces which we could discuss further and manuel had suggested the energy source and the user interface discussing some of those that we could change a little bit we need to keep it simple have limited buttons which i think the 2 piece idea might be really beneficial for we need to incorporate this fashion trend of fruits and vegetables i do not know i mean i guess the 2 options are if we had our remote in the shape of a fruit or vegetable a little banana shape yeah right or with exterior designs but my question is i mean stereotypically speaking you kind of picture males with their remote controls and i am not sure how they would feel about having fruity logos on the outside so maybe we could have something that is somewhat removable or i do not know different options for female and male target groups and then the spongy feel i guess we could look at mobile phones and other technology that is out there and look at different types of material that might please our users he wants spongy feeling remote controls that is that it is possibly like a sorry just to butt in for a 2nd possibly like a cover like the head for mobile phones that is what i was thinking yeah we have one with a flag and one with a banana and one that is a spongy feel to it when you buy your remote you can buy you can various coverings various covers personalize personalize yeah we could leave that to the cover department yeah we all know they have got nothing to do all day yeah i talk about the interface concept and how the customer relates to the consumer will use the consumer will use the actual device so i have looked at some of the stuff i have sent try and get some inspiration but keep in mind our own ideas that we had i was sent some information from the company saying that the technology department have devised a new speech recognition technology condition technology where you can program questions into such devices you gave an example of a coffee machine where you program a question you program the answer and the machine responds accordingly okay there is different ways of a user can use products like remote there is a graphical use where you look at pictures and with on a screen a command line where you obviously type things in and you get a response and that is just to point out the sort of inconsistent sort of use of interface in remotes you can not really see that picture well but there is various different remotes once again with lots of different buttons on making it more complicated so then i had a look at new products that are on the market not necessarily remote controls but ones that you will recognize this is the voice there is a voice recognition remote control which can control multiple devices there is a picture on it but it in serve your favorite channels with your voice stored up to 80 speech samples controls 4 devices tv cable satellite vcr dvd and audio and you can record your own verbal labels that are connected to remote control functions so the technology is there the one on the left is very similar to what we drew upon the the board in the previous meeting where it has scroll down functions on the side you can sort just make those out and then on the right is obviously an ipod which is you know possibly one of the simplest things to use out there and really is and all that is just a nice big scroll menu you sort of go through that is a possibility and nothing simpler really then there is things like this which is a kids remote where the parents have the facility to control and program what the children can watch before so the remote control only allows them to access the channels that the parents want them to watch and it means that the children have a novelty of having their own remote control so i do not know if there is a possibility of having one remote control you know like we just had 2 components maybe you can have more components you know different remotes the point made at the end there is that you just have to sort of need to be clear on your devices as to what you know things you use sometimes an arrow pointing down which may suggest volume down could be confused just as a v for volume just little things like that which would need to be made clear in the design i think carry on from what i have already said are usually friendly remote with minimum buttons maybe we have suggested this 2 part thing where if it was to have a speech recognition thing you maybe control that on the do all program all that on the control bit and then just have the simple sort of handheld thing that we sort of devised earlier as the actual remote i do not it could be graphical display the actual remote control the actual control port maybe could have like an ipa we just sort of control through the menus so that it gets more complicated and then the the handheld it should be ergonomically designed and that is it just just sort of show you and they have got things like that huge things which is just that like a 19 year old grandma industrial design yeah cranes stuff like that it makes sense notice the giant dog bone shape also good for animals yeah yeah no why that is good well let us see i am going to bore you with a couple of descriptions of the interior just to make it more obvious what we have to fit in there and that we do have to fit the stuff in there i have more information on possible materials as well what we can and cannot do but just wait for this to load up and i will show you what we are talking about here the details of the component is design as you can see there what we have is the board the main board of the remote control the underside it is a pretty cheap piece of technology in the top left side you can see the chip which is the we were talking about this is the device to recognize the signals the input and it passes it on to a row of for the transistors and stuff like that on the right side that actually amplified the signal which later on has been transferred to to a infrared lamp which then of course shines infrared light onto the television to recognize what signal it is getting and will do what you tell it so much for the workings of the remote control itself its job is to wait for you to press a key then to translate that key press into infrared light signals that are received by the television when you press a key you complete a specific connection the chip senses the connection knows what button you press it produces a morse code line signal specific to that button clear transistor amplifies the signal and then sends the signal to the led which translates the signal to infrared light the sensor in the tv can see the infrared light and seeing the signal reacts appropriately this is the circuit board from the other side the lower part of it i do not know if you can see that properly the greenish board is what we saw in the 1st slide just flipped over you can see the circuit board itself that is the cheapest way to make electronic connections basically on the market what you do is you do not have cables but you have the connections actually in these lines on the board these are the actual keys that are being pressed they close the electric circuit that then sends the signal to the chip on the other side that will be behind here which sends it over to the transistors and all that stuff it amplify the signal and all that is being sent to the infrared lamp up there now you can see this is the rubber button version of it the way it works is that you have the keys here the rubber button has a little metal plate on the other side which closes the circuit here and thus gives on the signal now this is the simple version we are talking the simple and cheapest version at the same time we are talking something more complicated of course it is going to be more expensive as well not only that we are also restricted in the use of our outer shell or in the material that we could use for our outer shell i have gotten some information that we could use for the case material plastic rubber as well rubber that is used in anti stress balls so it is pretty squishy that would serve that purpose we could also use wood or titanium what is the approximate cost per 100000 for the titanium 0 you know i do not have an information on that however our company obviously can provide us with the titanium so i assume i was given an okay to use it it certainly is an expensive material i am aware of that but i was given an okay but there are certain restrictions to certain materials now let us 1st go through the list with the materials so what we can use is plastic rubber wood and titanium so mix these as for the energy source we are talking about that shortly in the other meeting what we could use is or what i was offered what we could use is a basic battery a dynamo interestingly enough we could use solar cells or a device that was not much further specified that provides kinetic energy such as like watches you just move them move the actual device and this provides it with some energy so obviously i personally have to say that dynamo is out of question you do not want to wind up your remote control before you can use it right solarcell is interesting may fail though everything there but you have to leave it by the window yeah or you lose it advice behind the couch for a week yeah works well in arizona but but in edinburgh not so the kinetic energy thing might work but the same problem you leave it lying around and you 1st have to shake it before it starts to work so i would say what we are stuck with really is the basic battery which also makes a base station basically obsolete however our interface options are push buttons in which in the production of which or in the production of which our company is expert however we have discussed that scroll wheels are a better option and they are possible we have an okay for scroll wheels however when it comes to the scroll wheel of the ipod i have one big objection that is that we have to fit an lcd into the remote control as well this however may exclude certain materials if you have a squishy kind of remote control then an lcd screen may be affected by the movement because we might not be able to put it in there so there is also restrictions to when it comes to the chip if we have a more sophisticated scroll wheel rather than this very basic setup that we just presented the chip has to be more sophisticated and thus more expensive as well i do not have any details to you when it comes to the cost but it will be a significant difference i would rather say drop the titanium and therefore that is have a more sophisticated chip but that is not up to me to decide really so that is for the scroll wheel it limits our choice and squishy is hip so i would say rather not go for that let us see now solar cells cannot be used on a curved or latex surface or remote control but obviously that is not our problem since we have decided or against solar cells i assume right or anybody still yeah i think i think batteries are probably the way to go which makes it very conventional but therefore traditional i assume with the titanium we come out to make it a curved design we would just be able to make it flat and and straight design pretty much which i assume would exclude some more sophisticated versions with the sort of spongy and the plastic thing you can get those mobile phones and initially have a it is plastic but then they have sort of a cover on it which is just sort of soft stuff so i do not know if that would still be possible to have you know it plastic but then where the people hold it they still will be sort of spongy and we can have the fruits and vegetables on the spongy parts we can remove it so was the possibility of having a graphical display on it like a screen you can have an lcd screen but therefore no rubber will be used right so plastic is titanium yes but this will of course influence the form as i understand it you can use any form latex is tricky or rubber rubber and titanium also seems to be tricky when it comes to the form so the way to go is if you want to scroll wheel you either make it flat and angular add an lcd screen and then you can basically choose either with plastic or titanium yeah or wood if you want to make it a particular shape use plastic add an lcd screen add a scroll wheel that will be fine or make it just push buttons basically plastic gives you the biggest variety of options maybe not the nicest feel not much of originality wait the rubbery we can shape it however we want or the rubber we cannot with rubber we could pretty much shape it the way we wanted it but we cannot add scroll wheels and we cannot add an lcd screen that is the tricky thing could we not you know have a shape with the scroll and the screen and then the sort of initial shape we had just which is you know sort of banana esque that is the thing if you did it yellow yeah and you know you just stick on just sort of other things and i sort of grip from it they would not have any they are just they are just 0 they are just 0 the exterior they would not be necessary to the actual shape of the thing is that an option a plastic shell with a rubbery coating on at certain spots certainly it can be done yes yeah that does not affect the functional side of it all like say just the underside so then it can be done i assume yeah so the fruit design how about affecting the surface of the actual remote control say we do not make it the particular fruit shape obviously but that the surface of an orange banana whatever you name it what about a smell to the remote you could just sell it in different colors as well i suppose in different yellows all those smells i would stick well we are supposed to stick to the colors yeah yellow and gray yellow and gray yellow and gray so what have we lemon banana grapefruit is what we would go for in terms to the author appearance perhaps but i would say if i were to make a decision i would probably put the fruit aspect at the lower end of the spectrum of importance i think having a shape could be a little ridiculous well we have not benetian shaped already well perhaps the implied shape will be enough to lure that fruit minded remote supplier and if it was done yellow it is yellow it is curved so why not add a couple of gray stripes and make it look like a banana a couple of gray stripes we could put the gray stripes on the bottom so that that person could turn it over it would look like a banana just sitting on their table yeah there you go rather than rather than and then you could actually put the banana shaped thing on the fruit ball 0 on a coffee table and then people always know where it was maybe the holder if we were to have a holder it could be shaped like a it could be an ape it could be an ape or a fruit bowl we could have a variety of options here okay yeah do you have more to your presentation that is pretty much it i informed you about the materials what the interior has to look like and what the limitations to certain materials are there you go okay i am going to plug in here real quick sure i could like i said we have to make a decision on a couple of the questions on a couple of of these items here so is the 2 piece idea out or would we not decided we sort of might want to go with that because if we are going to use a battery then the base station might not be necessary to say well we can still design a 2 piece remote without having a base having one of them be a base station but just have it be an optional either big remote with lots of functions or you take a smaller piece we can still do that however of course it would be like designing 2 remotes pretty much so which then as i understand it would probably limit the limit again the use of certain materials because they would be too expensive say like a scroll wheel and on both of them or have an lcd screen and so on so you would probably have to stick rather with a just traditional rubber button design which we saw there but could be done okay so these are the decisions that we do need to make by the end of this meeting for our components concept we need to come up with the energy source the chip on print and the case probably case material and probably a shape also and then for the user interface concept we need to decide what the type is and what kind of supplements we will have energy source i think we have decided batteries although not exciting are probably our best bet we have 5 minutes okay when it comes to the chip on print as i said the more advanced features you want the fancier the chip has to be and the more expensive if you want just a normal button version the chip on print is going to be a cheap one so i guess we should pick the case then if we go with the plasticy case or the plastic case then the chip on print is still kind of we could have either or we could have a complex one or a non complex but did we decide that the rubbery feel is important enough to us what about what you said like putting the finger grips just on top of the plastic okay so we would have the lcd screen as long as the rubber is nowhere near the controls yes okay so i guess the case would be plastic with perhaps that is not even enough rubber to qualify as being part of it it is more of a supplement maybe yeah more of a lamination perhaps yeah so then for the scroll are we going for the ipod type yeah i think so yeah okay which will require a more expensive chip on print right yes it does thank you i guess that we have a good idea of what we are going to need to do on this okay so we will have another meeting in 30 minutes here is what is going to be going on ryan you will be working on the user interface design manual you will be working on the look and feel design corinne will want a product evaluation and the 2 of you get to play with the modeling components and maybe get us a prototype which should go along well with your look and field design and your interface so that basically will just be working on the prototype another prototype will accomplish your other 2 actions let us do it