so let us start our 2nd me meeting on conceptual design so as the previous meeting i will be the secretary and we will have 3 presentations and we will have to decide on the remote control concept and finally we will close the decision so i will 1st no y you do the minutes 1st or what no i i think i will let our user interface designer speak 1st mister david jordan okay yep so we will yeah s technical accessoire no no no interface yeah this so 1st i will present the concept of user interface there is 3 concepts in the user interface so 1st one it is a google controller the 2nd is a fancy controller the last one is intelligent controller so there are 3 concepts in our controller n next i will explain one by one the 1st is google controller so i want the controller to be easy to use but with sophisticated functions so it is a combination of easy to use and sophisticated functions this is a 1st concept of our controller the 2nd concept is a fancy controller so we want give the customers the impression that our controller is very attractive they can easy recognize our controller among a lot of products so so the u the user f the the u user interface should be very very cute very very g a nice one attractive such like this there are several examples in the slides i am not sure the one in the middle is very attractive yeah it is very you know if you are it is very big yeah yeah it is hard f i it is easy for you to remember it or to recognize it yeah okay yeah why not yeah yeah we will have big discussion i suppose after that so yeah yeah yeah so the last concept is intelligent we want we want our controller to be smart so maybe we should use technology such as speech recognition technology and gesture recognition technology so we need to have coop some cooperation with some research institute on speech recognition and gesture recognition with this advanced features we i think we can attract a lot of user okay okay something else no there this is the 3 concepts of our controller yeah i just have one question because for the intelligent controller you said that we can use the voice recognition or the gesture recognition yeah yeah but as the expert told us most of the people want to use the remote control to zap t to zap between channels yeah so do you think they will be able to use gestures because if they do all the time the same gesture as you said previously in the last meeting maybe they will get injuries because of that y yeah or if you say channel 3 channel 323465 i think they will be bored after a while maybe you do not think so i think some time it is very convenient to use voice interface and gesture interface than use button yeah sure for example if you cannot find your controller you can just just just speak something such as yeah 12 i that is true 0 yeah that is a good that is a good point so one and yeah but suppose you got a cold you have a mute remote controller yeah so you can use your gesture that is no problem yeah but how how is how risky is it to trust like speech recognition or gesture recognition broken arm for limited vocabulary speech recognition is very reliable and for s limited vocabulary gesture recognition is also very okay okay yeah but suppose you have a family watching t v yeah and if they want to use their private remote control in the same time do you think it will work yep everybody wanting to change channel in the same time but this this but this would never happen anyway yeah they cannot speak at the same time why yeah if you have one brother and one sister and they want to watch their favorite t v program yeah but the so they say 0 channel 4 channel 3 channel 4 channel 3 all the time so yeah but yeah but the same can happen even with it you know this kind of remote control because the yeah it is very interesting yeah but this yeah yeah i do not think it yeah but you have the remote control so maybe you can keep it f with you that is right you are not you are not obliged to share it 0 okay okay you mean it could be a problem for this kind of stuff yeah we can yeah yeah that is that is the advantage of intelligent controller even you h you have the controller i can i can say channel 3 so it is c come to channel 3 i do not have to no it is it is no but this is disadvant disadvantage yeah i think it is a disadvantage it is advantage yeah and mayb maybe we can have the switching mode to pass from you know voice controller to yeah but one other question manual controllers eh how how much will it cost no more expensive maybe how much yeah because i suppose we need to do research to have something working no no we we d we we just are use if you if if you use the basic some some efficient no no we just have some cooperation with some research institute we do not have to do some basic research on this field so you think it will not cost an not a lot for us yeah i think it is because this technology is or for limited wor or limited wor lexical recognition it is very yeah but it is yeah but it is it is changing how the remote control is going to be built it is because then you need i mean this does not have the power to do recognition for example well y y you have also the language problem you know when you no it is even for the f because the the vocabulary the cause it it have to be universal so yeah i agree with the vocabulary is very small so that is not a problem yeah yeah but there is one problem that baba talked about is the international yeah yeah remote control we need something that is international suppose we are we want to sell it in france yeah the recognition system will be able to understand french if you want to go to england it will be able to understand english so yeah yeah the key the key the key of our the key feature of our controller is that it is it has some some adaptation yeah this could be downloaded by the web maybe or yeah but you know mechanism the product the pro it is it is it means when you when you sell this controller in china it is can recognize chinese it is r if you sell this controller in france it can recognize french it is a very smart it is a very smart controller maybe yeah okay yeah it is and with no increase in the pri production price of the remote control 0 yeah yeah yeah yeah because of this product this technology has already been developed but yeah but how will you so yeah but the problem is how to s you know if this is a push button controller you can send this con this remote control everywhere in the world the same one yeah yeah if you have the language you have to develop for each country 0 n yeah yeah tha that is why we have to do language adaptation yeah but for each country you have to do one because the for example for se yeah even for each f for even for different family we have to do d yeah we would we have to do adaptation to 0 really that is 0 yeah but then w seems to be quite complex yeah we have to take care of the €12 comple no it is not so complex problem and what about voice recognition do we have microphones and where will be they do you think if we are far from television it will work no no no it is not i think that is n that is not a problem because you you do not have to wear a microphone it it just the microphone is embedded in the controller yeah but where is the controller okay where is the controller yeah it is in your family in your home no but then it is it is like this yeah but we are here it is an object but here you say you want to use i s technology yeah yeah you can you can embed it microphone here a microphone maybe yeah but wha what is the use of voice or gesture recognition if you have a remote control li like this if you have an object if you want to use voice or gesture you need to be free without any object to talk to the to the t v maybe you just want to interact with television yeah yeah just you just put the controller here then you i if you say one he switch to channel yeah you use your command and you do s your gesture yeah but you can lose it no no it is n y if you lose it so well for example if it is somewhere in the room if i maybe if it is in the table there you can always say s channel one and the t the remote control gives the order to the t v to switch to channel one yeah okay you so you can build a kind of black box and put it on t v and just to recognize gestures and voice devic yeah yeah yeah yeah but so you need a camera and you know a microphone inside your remote control yeah ah but you would still have the buttons or is it do you think it should be only voice recognition and gesture recognition or you you still have the possibility to use buttons i think it we should give the flexibility to the user and we think yeah okay so you yeah yeah but you can see they can switch form one modality to another yeah i dunno it is a bit risky risky yeah i think so no that is quite inter quite attractive and maybe it will be quite but i think that you know switching from one country to to another will be a problem so although y y well if you do language adaptation there should be no problem yeah i dunno yeah but i i okay we should have confidence in technology yeah we should so what do you think we will try the controllers you would prefer what which kind of controller would you prefer to use you as a remote control user if if i mean i am sure if the user pays the same price he is happy to have recognition more features yeah but if if if it like doubles yeah but i think he need a control that is very reliable so no one would would be interested so i think it would be better not to do any intelligent controller and to stay with the google controller or a fancy controller maybe try to mix the google controller and the fancy controller yeah yeah just want to have something controller which is in a kind of intelligent controller easy to use sophisticated and fancy yeah but if if you stick to you think it is possible stick to the 1st 2 parts so what is the difference between our controller with other products in the market there is no k features of our controller so is there is there any necessary to design new controller without any breakthrough features yeah yeah no i mean would y would you replace your controller with a controller with similar function if you do not have some some function inside it that it is not really the we we can add for example some function like for browsing in internet so or something like that y but i think a user need yeah you y that is a fun that is not the function of the controller that is a function of t v you can replace your t v with a new t v with internet browsing function but no but you need you need new remote controller then because if you want to browse internet or i do not know if you want to type something or do not have a the the okay yeah if we can send email from it but it is not the only the problem only the issue of controller it is it is also the issue of the t v no no because the p the problem i can see with with the voice or the gesture itself wh what can happen in a family i i for example if cause for example yeah yeah but we do we do we we we cannot rely 100% on these features to u to use the controller yeah yeah but we want so but with the features of our controller such as you have the feature of voice recognition in your mobile but you seldom use it your mobile but you when you choose a new mobile you choose the one with voice recognition yeah you wou you would true that is the feature is not 100% reliable but it is a feature to distinguish our product from our from other products yeah but w we we want something th that works all the time every day every hour for everyone yeah yeah yeah and for all the person of the family maybe so yeah yeah if if if if you are if you ar if you already have a product it works 100% reliable would you replace it with another one you do not need to tune it yeah why not i mean for example the goo y you say we would we would to have a google like controller if it is because you have new yeah yeah i do not see how adding speech or gesture recognition would make the remote control look more like google google is is simple works fine yeah so i i guess if can have a remote control that is really basic simple and works fine it is already a lot yeah 0 yes but there is no big difference between the traditional controller thi this i mean the user is not only interested in having speech or gesture recognition or if he has something that works fine and is really fancy the then nn no tha looks nice and it is easy easy to use easy to use not too expensive too but the there is there is n there is n not enough motivation for them to replace their old controller with a new one if there is no key feature in the new controller see that is the problem yeah that is the same yeah i mean i i know it is more interesting to develop a remote controller with speech and gesture and whatever yeah ye but you have to think the user is the one who going to buy the product and so yeah okay i mean that is the point so let us go to the industrial designer okay okay maybe we will be able to take a decision after that so okay yeah 2 yeah participant 2 working yeah working design so so i think i can can you go to the next one i it is not this one it is oth the oth so i it is the working design okay sorry component design it is okay so this yeah so this is the described use what are you inst i think there is something wrong with your it did did not r receive it did not receive it maybe you you record it somewhere else i do not think so participant one participant one interface concept no 0 maybe i record recorded directly on the computer yeah dunno nope okay okay yes it seems that we have a problem with the i dunno if you remember what you had to say or i can say it to you without yeah so yeah maybe we can 1st come to no i think it will be more interesting to start with to frahan with frahan then you can prepare your slides then present it later i think it is more interesting what he says okay yeah yeah exac you will had s some more information in i think it will be interesting after your presentation to have baba is presentation okay yeah yeah true yeah okay in fact i do not know so i s because i in my presentation i do not have here with so it was in fact the design use to show you the design of what is inside a what is inside and what are the different component of the r okay okay never mind okay of the remote control okay so it will be interesting so i could show you some some picture of what is inside and so okay so i in fact the the f something i want to discuss is which kind of material are we going to use so will it will be wooden wooden di wooden remote control or a a plastic remote control like this one so and in which which which kind will be the the different bu button so it can be some you know classic pushbutton like this one or you have also some button like l c d where you know the button the buttons are unlighted during the night or you know you can see them in the darkness okay okay and the other thing i want to discuss also is which kind of alimentation electric alimentation do you want to have so will it be for example d solar energy alimentation or will it be a battery like the classical battery so huh and i think that for example for the alimentation it would be good to have both of them so so for example in some country where you are in the the countryside and you are far from you know the cities for example in some place in in s senegal so if you have electric if you have solar alimentation you just when you want to have recharger or remote control power you just put it on the sun and after one hour you can come and so it can be interesting for people to have this kind of remote con it can be something interesting to make people buy it for example yeah i think it is an added value to the remote control and maybe it can attract all the ecological k yeah consumers and but about the the price of adding this solar battery yeah yeah yeah ecologists yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah would it be something really that will increase the price of production more no alrigh in fact having them both will if we want to have battery regular battery and and the solar energy battery it could be it will it will add a little bit of the price so but it will be an added value also that will be compensated so yeah okay and what tha what about the materials and the materials it depends for example you if you have a wooden material it can be more the plastic material is more common it is very resistant but impersonal you know something wooden will be like i do not know high cl so a special high class or you know you can have some yeah special for yeah and i if you we want to put fashion in electronics maybe we can try to do something with wood yeah even if it is not completely wood but just a part of the yeah you know will be wooden in wood and it can be interesting okay seems to be interesting and so the last point is y also would do you want to have some very cheap integrated cir circuits chips or do you have low level or or very very expensive it depends but i think that low level will be you know it is an interim module yeah we want something easy to use and so i think maybe something very low level wou would be enough yeah yeah yeah yeah and you think that we will be yeah i think it will fit on the price we want twel €12 so okay so wood and what about the buttons i think the buttons i pr i prefer you know the l c d you know lighted buttons because you know it is i do not know yeah in the dark no it is fashion yeah it is fashion and it is related to how beautiful it is or if you want to watch t v in the darkness or if you want to lo find your find your your remote control that is lost you know in the darkness it is very easy so right what about the touch scr touch screen for example it is it is expensive i i guess i think a touch screen will be t as expensive as the l c d buttons so but and it is a kind of other design i mean it can also be interesting to have this kind of yeah so you got email i dunno i think we have only 5 minutes left okay participant 4 functional requirements no trend watching the other one this one yeah i think so just yeah so just to meet the user requirements i would just do a s short anal analysis of the remote control market and to kind of have a better overview of what is the fashion in general i have checked more than only the remote control market so next so again it is pretty much similar to what i have said in the previous meeting user really really want a fancy look and feel they are not so so interested in functional look and feel okay like the one you have shown david with all the buttons and i mean i i it sounds good technically but it is it is not what they want and so 2nd point is they still want it it to be technologically innovative so maybe it is sort of related to what you have said with the speech recognition and so on okay at the same time it is important that it is easy to use so that were the 31st points from the remote control analysis now i if we look at fashion in general okay wha what we really see this year is that everything from clothes to shoes and furniture is is inspired by fruits and vegetables okay so i think we really have to take this into account for the design of the the thing ah yes yeah yeah okay yeah cause it is it is really what people want even if it is in general fashion we want it to be in the remote control and then if if we take the ordering or the ranking of all the points fancy look and feel has on a score of 7 would have 6 as importance the remote control has to be technologically innovative it is 3 then easy to use it is not so important actually with respect to other y other ones okay so we see fancy look an look and feel is the most important one and then if we combine this with the fashion from milan and paris and fruit and vegetables yeah we go to the fruits and vede vegetables and the other point i have not mention is people wan want to have a spongy touch okay so this is this maybe does not really fit with the wooden design spongy kay okay yeah yeah i dunno yeah but the problem is which kind of material do you need to to be spongy yeah thi this is this would be like pla plastic like but rubber mayb maybe you know rubber like s very stuff okay rubber rubber desi okay yeah yeah device so yeah okay tha tha that was the main point i think from the trend in fashion okay so we have to take decisions about the component concepts about the energy so as you say you want something technologically innovative maybe using solar energy and with battery would be something interesting maybe will attract yeah solar yeah so when i think it is okay yeah it will be a pro ecology consumers yeah cheap imprint so you s you propose low level chips would be enough to have something working well yeah i think yeah yeah yeah case later so you think case something spongy someth no wood no wood but plastic maybe not no wood but i mean ma maybe not the part you touching you know would some pla maybe you i think we can have wood for example in the bottom and you know yeah maybe the base it depends on the design we want so it is it is natural but still y yeah it is natural and i yeah th the feeling is natural so maybe we can stay with wood and it can be correlated to energy solar energy so for the marketing aspect you know saying that it is ecol yeah i mean it is not exactly right for the spongy point of view yeah it is not right so but it is still fashion but we could maybe have both like part of wood and some rubber for the buttons or i dunno okay yeah something that you can into it yeah and what about the user interface concept google and google and fancy and fancy f how about the the voice because i think that with the voice and gesture recognition there are still some and disadvantages with this yes maybe we can do some marketing studies asking people if they are interested and how it it is an an interesting concept to see to have voice control yeah yeah yeah the smart controller yeah but and the problem is i i am we can infer i if you have v voice control why not to put it directly on the the t v so speak directly to the t v and you do not need a remote control actually so yeah but you need a receiver to recognize the gestures and the voice but it will be embedded on the t v and not on the remote control so that is true yeah d okay i dunno so maybe we will just focus on the google controller plus the fancy controller maybe try to mix them these 2 concepts together just in one and do a remote control with solar energy and batteries and with lev low level chips and wood yeah it is good and l c d buttons yeah l c d yeah i think for these supplements the solar energy would be something quite interesting and not maybe too difficult to add yeah yeah yeah and pf what can we think a supplement to what interface yeah for the interface something added value i think the supplement can be the voice it is just you know it is not the most important but it can be a part of with a module you mean the remote control with a mur module if you want you can just use yeah yeah commands words and use them when you do not want to use your fingers yeah to push button yeah yeah even it is for s just some kids you know switching channels 1234 turning the t v 0 on 0 or off yeah turning yeah yeah not very complex commands but easy commands so so adding some vocal commands yeah simple ones yeah simple ones for okay so the next meeting will start in 30 meeti minutes so we will you will all have to work in in your direction so you will have to work on the look and feel design to have the easy to use yeah powerful and fancy remote control with some added value such as the simple vocal commands recognition yep yeah you will have to work more baba on the spongy way to to add spongy touch to the buttons and try to find maybe a nice shape for the wooden remote control expensive buttons yeah to make some new yeah and i sup i think we will have to evaluate th the product too yeah no not forgetting about the fruits and vegetables trends yeah okay fruits yeah if possible okay and remember as as i said last meeting we really have to build a fashion remote control and the color of the the society will be really it will be seen in the remote control need it to be okay so you will have baba and david jordan you will have to work together on the prototype and you will have next time to show us modeling a cl a clay remote control yeah okay okay so you will have to model model something yep and i think that some specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach okay so no more questions we can close the session okay sounds good okay yeah okay okay cool
you see that i can not see that okay okay okay yep there is so let us start our 2nd meeting on conceptual design so as the previous meeting i will be the secretary and we will have 3 presentations and we will have to decide on the remote control concept and finally we will we will have to decide on the remote control concept finally we will close the position so i will 1st you do the minutes 1st or what no i think i will let our user interface and designer speak 1st mister david jordan so i will yes yes technical that is this one interface yes so 1st i will present the concept of user interface there are 3 concepts in the user interface the 1st one is a google controller the 2nd is a fancy controller the last one is the intelligent controller intelligent controller so there are 3 concepts in our controller next i will explain one by one the 1st is google controller so i want the controller to be easy to use but with sophisticated functions so it is a combination of easy to use and the sophisticated functions this is the 1st concept of our controller the 2nd concept is a fancy controller so we want to give the custom the impression that our controller is very attractive we can easily recognize our controller among a lot of products so the user interface would be very very cute very attractive such as this there are several examples in these lines i am not sure the one individual is very interesting yeah it is very you know if you it is very big yeah it is hard it is easy for you to remember it but to recognize it okay yeah why not we will have big discussion i suppose after that so so the last concept is intelligent we want we want our controller to be smart so maybe we should use some technology such as speech recognition technology and gesture recognition technology so we need to have some cooperation with some research institute on speech recognition and on gesture recognition with this advanced features i think we can attract a lot of users okay okay something else no this is the 3 concepts of our i just have one question yeah because for the intelligent controller you said that we can use the voice recognition or the gesture recognition but as the expert told us most of the people want to use the remote control to zap between channels do you think they will be able to use gestures because if they do all the remote control you know they will be able to zap between channels if they do all the time the same gesture as you said previously in the last meeting maybe they will get injuries because of that or if you say channel 3 channel 3 2 3 4 6 5 i think they will be born after a while you do not think so i think sometimes it is very convenient to use voice interface and gesture interface than use button for example if you cannot find your controller just speak something such as one yeah but suppose you got a cold you have a mute remote controller so you can see your gesture that is a problem how is it how risky is it to trust like speak recognition or gesture recognition for limited vocabulary speech recognition it is very reliable and for limited vocabulary gesture recognition it is also very yeah but suppose you have a family watching tv and if they want to use their private remote control in the same time do you think it will work everybody wanting to change channel in the same time but this would never happen anyway yeah they cannot speak at the same time if you have one brother and one sister they want to watch their favorite tv program so they say 0 channel 4 channel 3 channel 4 yeah all the time even the same can happen even with it you know this kind of remote control yeah but you have the remote control so maybe you can not keep it with you you are not obliged to share it you mean it could be a problem for yeah that is the advantage of intelligent controller even you know you have the controller i can i can see channel 3 so it is 0 but this is disadvantage i think it is a disadvantage yeah maybe you can have a switching more to pass from you know voice controller to yeah but one other question how how much will it cost yeah because i suppose we need to do research to have something working no we just use some efficient basic we just have some cooperation with some research institutes we do not have to do some basic research on this 0 you think each one costing not a lot for us yeah i think it is because this technology is for limited limited lexicking recognition it is very yeah but it is changing how the remote control is going to be built because then you need i mean this does not have the power to do recognition for example you have also the language because of it has to be universal so yeah i agree what is very small so yeah there is one problem that is baba talked about is the international remote control we need something that is international suppose we want to sell it in france the recognition system will be able to understand french if you want to go to england it will be able to understand english yeah the key the key yeah this could be downloaded by the web man the key feature of our controller is that it has some adaptation mechanism it means when you sell this controller in china it can recognize chinese if you sell this controller it is a very much range it is a very smart controller and with no increase in the production price of the remote control because of this product this technology has already been developed yeah but how will you the problem is how to you know if this is a push button controller you can send this remote control everywhere in the world the same one if you have the language you have to develop for each country that is why we have to do language adaptation but for each country you have to do one yeah because for example for a few for even for different family we have to do really yeah we have to do adaptation to yeah but it seems to be quite complex yeah we have to take care of the €12 and what about voice recognition do we have microphones and where we will be there do you think if we are far from television it will work i think that is not a problem because you you do not have to wear a microphone you just the microphone is embedded in the controller yeah but where is the controller where is the controller yeah it is in your family in your home yeah but here it is an object but here you say you want to use a technology yeah you can embed it in the microphone here yeah but what is the use of voice or gesture recognition if you have a remote control like this if you have an object if you want to use voice or gesture you need to be free without any object to talk to the tv you just want to interact with the controller here then you if you say one you see your command and you do your gesture yeah but you can lose it if you lose it so but for example if it is somewhere in the room maybe if it is in the table there you can always say it is channel one and the remote control gives the audio to the tv so you can build a kind of black box and put it on tv and just to recognize gestures and voice so you need a camera and a microphone in your remote phone you would still have the buttons do you think it should be only voice recognition and gesture recognition or you still have the possibility to use buttons i think we should give the flexibility to the user okay so you yeah but you can switch from one modality to another i do not know it is a bit risky risky i think so maybe it will be quite attractive but i think that you know switching from one country to another will be a problem well if you do language adaptation there should be no problem yeah okay we should have confidence in technology we should so what do you think which are the controllers you would prefer what which kind of controller would you prefer to use you as a remote control user i mean i am sure if the user pays the same price he is happy to have recognition but if it like doubles no one would be interested i think he needs a controller that is very reliable so i think it would be better not to do an intelligent controller and to stay with the control control and to stay with the google controller or fancy controller maybe try to mix the google controller and a fancy controller just one to have something controller which is in a kind of intelligent controller easy to use sophisticated and fancy do you think it is possible if you stick to the 1st 2 parts so what is the difference between our controller with other products in the market there is no features of our control control so is there any necessary to design new controller without any breakthrough features no i mean would you replace your controller with a controller with similar function if you do not have some function inside you can add for some function like for browsing in the internet or something like that but i think a user needs that is not the function of the controller that is the function of tv you can replace the tv with a new internet tv with a new tv with internet browser no but you need a new remote controller then because if you want to browse internet or i do not know if you want to type something or okay if you send a mail from but it is not the only the problem only the issue of controller is also the issue of the tv because the problem i can see with the voice or the gesture what can happen in a family for example we do we do we cannot rely 100% on these features to use the controller controller but it is the features of our controller such as you have the feature of voice recognition in your mobile but you seldom use it your mobile but you when you choose a new mobile yeah you choose the one with voice recognition true that is the feature is not 100% reliable but it is a feature to distinguish our product from our from other products yeah but we want something that works all the time yeah every day every how yeah for the person of the family yeah if you do not need to tune it if you already have a product it works 100% reliable would you replace it with another one yeah why not for example we would like to have a google like controller i do not see how adding speech or gesture recognition would make the remote control look more like google is simple works fine so i guess if we can have a remote control that is really basic simple and works fine it is already a lot 0 yes but there is no big difference between the traditional controller i mean the user is not only interested in having speech or just recognition if he has something that works fine and is really fancy looks nice and not too expensive there is not enough motivation for them to replace their old controller with a new one there is no key feature in the new controller that is the problem yeah i mean i know it is more interesting to develop a remote controller with speech and gesture and whatever but you have to think the user is the one who is going to buy the product then so okay so let us go to the industrial designer maybe we would be able to take a decision after that that so 2 yeah passing 2 and working so so i think i can can you go to the next one it is not this one it is not working design sorry component design so this so this is to describe you describe you use what i did not say i think there is something wrong with the maybe you you record it somewhere else i do not think so but if one participant one but it did not want interface concept no  0 maybe i record it directly on the computer yeah no no okay it seems that we have a problem with the i do not know if you remember what you had to say or i can say it to without yeah so yeah maybe we can 1st come to no i think it would be more interesting to start with i think it is more interesting what you can not put your slides then present it will have some more information and i think it would be interesting after you presentation to have baba is presentation yeah okay in fact i do not know i okay in my presentation i do not have here but okay no more it was in fact to design you to show you the design of the design of what is inside and what is inside and what are the different components of the of the remote control okay so it will be interesting so i could show you some some picture okay of what is inside so so in fact the something i want to discuss is which kind of matter are you going to use so we it will be a wooden wooden wooden remote control or a plastic remote control like this one so and in which which can will be the different button so it can be some you know classic push button like this one or you have also some button like lcd where you know the buttons are unlighted during the night or you know you can see them in the darkness okay and the other thing i want to discuss also is which kind of electricity elementation do we want to have so will it be for example solar energy alimentation or will it be a battery like the classical battery so and i think that for example for the alimentation it would be good to have both of them so for example in some country where you are in the country the countryside and you are far from the cities for example in some place in in senegal so if you have electricity if you have solar elementation you just when you want to have recharge your remote control power you just put it on the sun and after one hour you can come and so it can be interesting for people to have this kind of it can be something interesting to make people buy it i think it is an added value to the remote control and maybe it can attract all the ecological consumers yeah but about the price of adding this solar battery would it be something really that will increase the price of production or no in fact having them both will if you want to have a battery regular battery and the solar energy battery it could be it will add a little bit of the price bit of the price so but it will be added value also that will be compensated okay so and what about the materials and the materials it depends for example if you have a wooden material it can be more the plastic material is more common it is very resistant but you know something wooden will be like i do not know special high class or you know yeah and if we want to put fashion and electronics maybe we can try to do something we would yeah even if it is not completely wood but just a part of the you know it will be wooden in wood and it can be interesting okay seems to be interesting so the last point is also do we want to have some very cheap integrated circuits chips or do we have low level or very very very expensive it depends but i think that low level will be you know it is an intermediate yeah we want something easy to use and so i think maybe something very low level would be enough and you think that we will be yeah i think it will fit on the price you want 12 €12 so would and what about the buttons i think the buttons i prefer you know the lcd you know and lighted buttons because you know it is i do not know and yeah in the dark it is fashion and it is fashion and it is related to how beautiful it is so if you want to watch tv in the darkness or if you want to find your remote control that is lost in the darkness it is very easy so what about the touch screen for example it is expensive i guess i think a touch screen will be as expensive as the lcd but and it is a kind of other design it can be also interesting to have this kind of so you got an email i do not know i think we have only 5 minutes left okay what happens for functional requirements no trend watching the other one this one yeah i think so just yeah so just to meet the user requirements i will just do a short analysis of the remote control market and to kind of have a better overview of what the fashion in general i have checked more than only the remote control market remote control market so next so again it is pretty much similar to what i have said in the previous meeting user really want a fancy look and feel they are not so interested in a functional look and feel like the one you have showed david with all the buttons and i mean it sounds good technically but it is not what they want so 2nd point is they still want it to be technological it to be technologically innovative so maybe it is sort of related to what you have said with the speech recognition and so on at the same time it is important that it is easy to use so that were the 31st points from the remote control analysis now if we look at fashion in general what we really see this year is that everything from clothes to shoes and furniture is inspired by fruits and vegetables so i think we really have to take this into account for the design of the thing because it is really what people want even if it is in general fashion we want it to be in the remote control and then if we take the ordering or the ranking of all the points fancy look and field has on a score of 7 have 6 as importants the remote control has to be technologically innovative it is 3 then easy to use it is not so important actually with respect to other ones so we see fancy looking feel is the most important one and then if we combine this with the fashion from milan and paris it is fruits and vegetables we go to the fruits and vegetables and the other point i have not mention is people want to have a spongy touch okay so this is this maybe does not really fit with the wooden design okay i do not know if the point is which kind of material do you need to be spongy yeah this is this would be like plastic like but rubber maybe you know rubber like device so yeah okay that was the main point i think from the trend in fashion okay so we have to take decisions about the component concept about the energy so as you say you want something technologically innovative maybe using solar energy and yeah solar i think it is with battery would be something interesting maybe it would attract yeah it will be pro ecology consumers chip and print so you propose low level chips would be enough to have something working well case leaves so you think ooh case you think oo whew kays something spongy no wood no wood maybe not no wood but i mean maybe not the part you are touching maybe you can have wood for example in the bottom yeah maybe the base it is natural yeah it is natural feeling is natural so maybe we can stay with wood and it can be correlated to energy solar energy so for the marketing aspect you know saying yeah i mean it is not exactly right right for the spongy yeah it is not right but it is still fashion we could maybe have both like part of wood and some rubber for the buttons or yeah something that you can yeah and what about the user interface concept google and fancy how about the voice because i think that with the voice and gesture recognition there are still some disadvantages with this maybe we can do some marketing studies asking people if they are interested and how it is an interesting concept to see to have a voice control yeah smart control and the problem is we can not understand if you have voice control why not to put it directly on the tv so you speak directly to the tv and you do not need a remote control actually so yeah but you need a receiver to recognize the gestures and the voice it will be embedded on the tv and not on a remote control that is true okay so maybe we are just focused on the google controller plus the fancy controller maybe try to mix these 2 concepts together just in one and do a remote control with solar energy and batteries and with low level chips and wood yeah good and lcd buttons buttons yeah that is good yeah i think for these supplements the solar energy would be something quite interesting and not maybe too difficult to add yeah yeah and what can we think a supplement to what interface yeah for the interface something added value i think the supplement can be the voice it is just you know it is not the most important but it can be a part of with a module you mean a remote control with a module if you want you can just use commands words and use them when you do not want to use your fingers even it is for just some keys like you know switching channels 1234 turning the tv on or off yeah not very complex commands but easy comments so adding some vocal comments simple ones yeah simple ones okay so the next meeting will start in 30 minutes so you will all have to work in your direction so you will have to work on the look and feel design to have the easy to use powerful and fancy remote control with some added values such as the the simple vocal commands recognition you will have to work more baba on the spongy way to add spongy touch to the buttons and try to find maybe a nice shape for the wooden remote control and i think we will have to evaluate the product not forgetting about the fruits and vegetables trends if possible and remember as i said last meeting we really have to build a fashion remote control and the color of the society will be really it will be seen in the remote control so you will have baba and david jordan you will have to work together work together on the prototype and you will have next time to show us modeling a clay remote control so you will have to model something and i think that some specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach okay so no more questions we can close the session okay okay okay cool i am going to i am going to