hello this meeting we are it is fo should be focused on the conceptual design of the remote control hello hello the goal of this meeting is to reach a decision at the end on the concept and i think the last time we talked about an a lot and we had a rough idea of what is going to be but in th at the end of this meeting we have to to reach a decision so we will have again 3 presentation from all of you and i hope it will be fast because i would like to have time to for long discussion and and decisions so who wants to start i s okay okay no no you you can start okay i will start so start can you open my presentation please i am number 4 trend this one yep can you pass the mouse please 0 okay that is fine turn okay so basically i just want to presented to you present to you some recent results we have had from looking at some remote control market research and some fashion trends around the world the fashion trends we got from talking to our our contacts in the fashion industry based in paris and milan so f from our market research basically we have come to the conclusion that a fancy look and feel as opposed to a functional look and feel is our number one priority fancy is is is is the you know highest priority secondly that our remote control needs to be techn technologically innovative so this is t number 2 priority but it is 2 times less important as the fancy criteria and 3rd thirdly the easiness of use is is the is is important as well but again 2 times less important as the technologically innovativeness of the remote control from our f fashion people in paris and milan we have discovered that this year fruit the fruit and vegetable motif will be the most important thing in in clothes shoes and furniture so i am pretty confident that our remote control fits into the furniture category and also the feel of material this year is expected to be spongy okay so hopefully our remote control reflects that s in some way what does it mean spongy sort of squishy like soft or something yeah soft like a like a sponge like a sponge i do not know yeah okay yeah i will see so in conclusion we need a our remote control needs to be something that is really fancy has lots of technolog tech technology in it somehow would be good to have it related to fruit and vegetables with a spongy feel okay and that it is easy to use and from our last meeting our you know fabian told us that w you know one of the requirements is that we have to reflect the look and feel of our of th the real reaction company yeah yeah that is it easy to use is it a as much as important than technology or fancy thing it is less important right less important so fanciness 1st and then 2 ti you know half as important as that is technology technology and half important as technology is easy to use yeah yeah okay so so hamed can you yeah the 2nd one could you please show the presentation number 3 i think the biggest struggle will be the easy to use feature we will see yeah number 3 3 this one yes just could you please check if it is the 1st one or the 2nd n n no it is the 1st one the 2nd one so it is not this one yeah okay okay so i am going to talk about a little bit about how this remote control should be appear to be more easy to use i think i think the feature easy to use is more important than being fancy but okay we can discuss about it later generally generally this remote control should be should be something in my opinion the 1st feature is just to be easy to use so the more frequent buttons should be larger they should be placed in a good position inside the remote control and s i can conclude like this that we should not need to learn how to use it it should be we should not need to es open a a t book and start reading and learning how to use this this remote control okay so what i found out that as i said i think it is better to put more frequent ke buttons which are used more in the middle of the remote control and they should be bigger in size the shape of remote control should be in a way which can which should be taken easily in hand it should not be completely like a cube it should be it should have round edge so then it is easier exactly and maybe just like some toys some joystick which is easier to take inside the hand and also f m because because customers does not like to buy lots of battery it should not consume lots of energy okay and my personal p preference is as i said just putting this buttons in a special places and covered some buttons which are not used that much like settings button like mobile phone usually some mobile phone cover the dialing number part so we can cover these buttons which are not used or number buttons for the for the for the can channels and just put volume change or s ch can channel change buttons in the remote control and if the user needed to do some more complex task he he can open the cover and then change settings or something like this and also i think if we put some some some some some buttons inside of the remote control it can be used easier not on remote control i dunno if i can explain well but just inside for example a sliding or rolling d stuff if we put it inside then we can easily manipulate with thumb so it can be another preference and i dunno but i think usage of a speech recogn r recogniser can be good i know that it consumes lots of energy but if we do it in some way that it asleeps when there is no sound and when it detects some sound it may consume less energy and i think it is good because it is something new and usually young people like something new so it may not be very useful but because it is new people may buy it i personally think there should be a big difference between between something otherwise they prefer to buy something which is coming from a famous company or okay that is mine okay okay so good news from me for me from hamed but bad news from bob obviously because spongy design i do not like it as okay so could you please fabien open it yeah i am person 2 and which one probably the 1st one i am not sure but check the 1st one i most of the things i have to write myself on the board but yeah that is it this one yeah just it is only this slide yeah this this is just one thing i wanted to mention and show you that i just i just found this that our company developed a s a 7 f 7 fingers or i will just yeah inch 77 inch t t f t screen which is good news for us since we wanted to include a display there so i i probably draw it down raw scheme 0 this is this is the stuff that i can use to okay oops so the this will be like the overall scheme or overall requirements from the engineering point of view 1st thing is this will be the overall shape no i am not speaking about the real shape of the device but the shape of the inside of the device so there will be some circuit for the power so say power circuit here the main energy will be taken from batteries that we can and if we decide to use the speech recognition stuff there we must use additional source of energy which i found the best is to use the solar cells which can which can supply everything i was computing all the all the things related to the speech recognition and it is okay to use just 2 batteries and solar cells so so no problem there can be also solar cell the main board with all the circuits will take at least 7 to 7 centimeters so this is my like hard requirement for the guys from the design so at least 7 to 7 it depends where you put your screen because the screen is 7 inch so it depends on you where where you put it it does not matter it is just one cord from from the main board to the screen which can be elsewhere so this will be t f t and on the main board we have the interface to the microphone which is somewhere say here interface to the microphone then the graphical card for the t f t and the 3rd unit is the i r the good news is that we can we decided to use the infra red unit because our company has also developed the chip for communication by the infra red including all the stuff inside so it will be very cheap for us so infra red here so the once again the overall requirements 7 to 7 centimeters for the board which has to be which can be spongy but has to be this size and the t f t which is 7 inches i have to check what i wanted to from my point of view i do not care about the about the material used for the overall des ov all the device can you fit any for example a t f t or any electronic device in a spongy thing or is there any problem for that for example put electronic card on a spongy thing i can i can imagine it could be a problem a all these things in in in this box are okay to put in in any shape basically but we have to take care of the t f t yep well sponginess maybe it a good feature since it takes if it is around the t f t then it is good because it is just keeps it safe i dunno okay so well maybe it can have 2 shells a hard shell inside and a spongy shell outside so okay maybe put electronic in a box and a spongy thing around well it is maybe related to the u i maybe after so yeah ca can i ask a question a yeah that is all from me this 7 inch t f t screen how big is it in reality yeah well 7 to 7 inches so like that yes that is quite big have we decided that we are going to use this t f t screen yeah but no i do not think it is 7 by 7 i think it is 7 the diagonal is 7 to be honest i was usually when they say 7 inch i think it is the diagonal but i mean even even that is like this big yeah yes yeah i dunno i dun i dun one each but yeah yeah honestly speaking i was thinking that it was 7 centimeters initially but it is 7 inches yeah but i i think we can we can cut it you can cut the t f t screen let us go yeah no no problem because because because then the size of the graphic card will be 14th so let us cut the t f t so yeah but no problem to to me to cut the screen okay so so so for the same price we have 4 screens now okay these technical engineers huh so what is the size of the device ah well this is like this is almost nothing 7 to 7 to at least well some 3 millimeters or something even from my perspective 7 t 7 centimeters by 7 centimeters is still yeah but we wanted the big buttons and stuff like that you know is it can you hold that or because if it is t too small we can we can lose it at home you know what user wants he wants a small remote control or yeah a small c control that they can hold in hand with big buttons i thought that it it should fit in the hand or something yes it is difficult a sm but is something that is 7 centimeters square e easy to hold w i i think so i if the roller buttons are on the side you do not have to catch it like that but just like this and you know follow follow well that is that is no task for me but well 7 to 7 at least yeah but so maybe you can finish your presentation and afterwards we will discuss about all this maybe this 0 okay okay okay thanks that is it okay so no so i think we have a lot we have to take decision today so i think we have to do some work to finalize our idea and take decisions 1st i think energy it is a key problem because it depend what can we have as feature if we use only batteries for example or something like that because can we have l c d and speech recognition with battery and it is also r related to the size of the of the devi of the device not j just a point to the energy th things if we use the batteries and the additional so solar cell then it is okay for l speech recognition and l c d so no problem in energy i think okay so okay but we have to use the solar cell so but otherwise not like but using how many batteries for example are are what maybe what is the size of the battery yeah i was thinking just common a a cells okay 12 so like 3 to 5 centimeters i dunno exactly but okay so if we use s solar cells where is the sun if someone is watching t v inside s d does not need to be sun it it is just the daylight you know okay the television lights yeah well i i suppose that i suppose that that this remote control will not be in the in the room like this where there is light only when when there are people but at least when there is t v you can get light from the t v yeah from the t i do not think it is enough yeah i dunno okay okay ah it is a it is a compromise no at least it is new and maybe technology new technology yeah that is why i wanted to to include the speech recognition because you wanted all the new things it is it is quite innovative yes yeah and if you watch t v outside it is very useful so i think before talking about the other thing it is important thing it is the case what what are going to be the size because its weight drives the other what we are going to use as features and so on for example for the for the l c d if we choose to have a small device we cannot use this a such a a a screen the s the screen is okay but the board that is the problem well what what would you guess as a shape or what what would be the shape i think i think their being large or small is not important the only important thing is to be able to take it in inside hand easily so let us say an average size okay and it should not be very heavy also and i prefer to is it should not have a uniform shape so in the middle it should be a little bit thinner maybe maybe so we c it is like like some joysticks you can take some some joystick you can take inside hand easier because it is it is designed for your f taking into account your finger shape and your palm shape so the general shape should be like this i think 7 centimeter by 7 centimeter is a little bit large so 7 not 7 but let us say 5 by 10 it is i think it is that is my opinion okay which is the same area it is easier okay yeah could you re could you redesign your board 5 to 10 055 centimeters by 10 centimeters well that yeah right yeah yeah i think it is feasib well one how could we do it we could put the board next to well under the l c d and for example make the l c d be totally unrelated to the thing that you hold in your hand like holding something and the l c d to be just on top of it you know somehow well but maybe let us stick to the s spongy thing like one unit 0 i have i s i think the easiest thing would be to to have a smaller l c d if it is possible well fi 5 to 10 it would be feasible okay so 5 to 10 i i think it is it is feasible okay so we are agree with a small i will make it or or i do not know but i do not want to now invent something new because we did not discuss about it fo 5 by 10 l c d so using some l c d s we can touch so we can remove keys and just having i dunno the name l c d responding to fingers yeah touching the screen something like like tactile tactile or something yeah touch screen touch screen yeah so but for now if we do not want to use such kind of screens i i think we using a a smaller screen is better because yeah the problem is we have a limit in a month of time so we cannot do something very new so let us go for a small l c d so okay so yeah so so just just give me the the the 5 by 10 numbers that you find the best and send it me and i will work it out a smaller s yeah okay okay so 5 by s 10 so what about so the case we talked about something easy to use you said something easy to use but how does that fit in a fashion way like with fruit and vegetable and about the color and logo of the of the company and so on now can we do that my 1st idea is because our color is more yellow and the it should be easy to take in a hand i thought about banana or something like that which is fruits and 7 to 10 banana a big banana okay rather mango or something or well it is it is definitely the obvious choice with the color of our company yeah i mean what other what other fruit and vegetables do you know of any any other fruit and vegetables that are yellow yeah but it is just an idea i dunno what you think about but yeah i dunno if it can fit with the technology you are the specialists of that you mean banana well but if it is if it if the banana is big enough so then yes but if you want to look at the screen no well yeah and i think this is not good the screen has to be square or it can be like a a shape quite with curves well it can be whatever you want but if it is square then we get 4 screens out of one by cutting just it could but if you want some shape then we can only get like 2 screens out of 7 to 7 inches so yeah it is like more more expensive to have shape like that but i do not care you know if we fit this requirement well i would like a shaped screen i think that is more important than saving a bit of money on on the t f t screen okay okay okay yeah m maybe the banana could be like a bit fatter than than the c c common one yeah yeah it should remember banana but it is not does not have to b to be really the size and exactly the shape of a banana but like modified banana okay well it we will stick to banana or so we are agree with the banana thing okay yeah banana is good okay okay okay so the last point we decided it is infra red i guess yeah i think infra red yeah yeah everybody is agreed sure so that is it i think about the concepts you have other thing to add to this point or no so about the user interface so we are going to use l c d in the last meeting we talked about hidden buttons i do not know what we are going to do with that you talked about the buttons on the side like like peeling of the banana you s yeah peeling of the banana it would be cool yeah what peeling of the banana you know should should discover the other buttons which are hidden yeah yeah okay and you mean the 1st layer would be spongy yeah 1st layer obviously spo yeah w it is it is like silly but the people will really appreciate it yeah i think so is it is it possible to do that it would be a great idea but is it possible technically like doing a spongy layer of the banana and you open it i think if we if we have a spongy layer on the outside of the banana then it is easy to make that yeah you know to manipulate that to hav be a cover that you can pull off and yeah yeah some yeah something like a plastic cover covering some interface u s b interface as in the in digital camera if you see it is like peeling you open a plastic cover and you see some u s b interfaces some some interfaces for adaptor so keys can be buttons can be covered like this with a plastic cover and when and when you open this cover it is like peeling a banana so something like this yeah but do you see that as a rigid thing or like like a banana something very soft you can open like banana or well is it possible to make it soft yeah yeah yeah it is a lic like a plastic cover so yeah so i think if it is so then it is cool so i dunno what you think bob but it would be great for users i think and very good for marketing i think for sure definitely the softer the better yeah cool yeah honestly speaking i cannot imagine it so far but it will be terrible yeah and setting buttons hidden in other remarks or something or something we did not talk about yes yet or i think we are almost there maybe how can we if we have a soft thing like this and to open it we have to attach it somewhere i dunno how to do that technically or and how pof we could use velcro yeah maybe or ma maybe a magnetic yes yeah it is a good idea thing magnetic ma magnetic 0 yeah or a yeah it can is it can be a plastic cover sticking to the to the all the stuff like with magnetic p magnetic magnetic materials in the border so it is it sticks like refrigerator door completely okay and when you try to open it it will be opened easily so you you can be sure that it will not be open while you are while while you are commonly using buttons on the banana okay and what would be the matter here of the 1st layer i mean likes soft plastic or yeah i imagine some sort of vinyl thing yeah yeah yeah in a in a sort of a with a suede sort of feel maybe well since since the since the things like the like the screen and how to say that solar cell has to be has to be like kept kept in the shape we cannot b so we need that the that the peeling i dunno but we should we should take care of these 22 things so if if the solar cell will not be visible while the banana is closed then the material must be able to put the light inside you know so that we can reach the energy out of it out of that so you are saying is it possible to have a solar cell and this removable cover and it is possible but well if it and a and a banana i dunno i dunno how to how to do it if if t if to if it is better to put the solar cell to the t to the peeling or outside it yeah or or inside but then it must be some window there you know okay and something we forgot maybe about the speech recognition system are we going to use it or not yes i think i think it is important i think so it i yeah it seems feasible and it would be something very great i think one of our p priorities is tech technology and so we have the de design the a good shape new and so on and we have also the technology thing w will be and even the easy to use thing so it will be perfect so we add also the speech recognition device yeah yeah i agree so that great we have decided everything and think we are on a good way so the next meeting will start in 30 minutes so the the industrial manager will will work on the look and feel design the user interface mana manager will work on the user interface device and the the marketing expert will do the 1st project evaluation okay so i hope you can do that in 30 minutes and yeah i i think you should work together s you hamed and peter to work in a in a 1st prototype and more about the shape and so on and how you can manage to put everything together and as usual you will receive some specific instructions on so thank you all everybody and see you in 30 minutes okay okay thank you okay thank you
i am going to hello this meeting where it should be focused on conceptual design of the remote control the goal of this meeting is to reach a decision at the end on the concept i think the last time we talked about a lot and we had a rough idea of what is going to be but at the end of this meeting we have to reach a decision so we will have again 3 presentations from all of you and i hope it will be fast because i would like to have time for a long discussion decisions so who wants to start okay no you can start okay can start can you open my presentation please yeah i am number 4 trend this one yeah can you pass the mouse please 0 okay that is fine okay so basically i just want to present to you some recent results we have had from looking at some remote control market research and some fashion trends around the world fashion trends we got from talking to our contacts in the fashion industry basically in paris and milan so from our market research basically we have come to the conclusion that a fancy look and feel as opposed to a functional look and feel is our number one priority fancy is the highest priority secondly that our remote control needs to be technologically innovative so this is number 2 priority number 2 priority but it is 2 times less important as the fancy criteria and 3rd thirdly the easiness of use is is the is important as well but again 2 times less important as the technologically innovativeness of the remote control from our fashion people in paris and milan we have discovered that this year the fruit and vegetable motif will be the most important theme in clothes shoes and furniture so i am pretty confident that our remote control fits into the furniture category and also the feel of material this year is expected to be spongy okay so hopefully our remote control reflects that in some way what does it mean spongy what does it mean spongy sort of squishy like soft or something yeah soft like a sponge okay so in conclusion we need our remote control needs to be something that is really fancy it has lots of technology in it somehow it would be good to have it related to fruit and vegetables with the spongy feel and that is easy to use to use and from our last meeting are you know fabian told us that you know one of the requirements is that we have to reflect the look and feel of out of the real reaction company that is it easy to use is it as much important than technology offensive thing is less important right less important so fanciness 1st and then 2 to you know half as important as that is technology technology and half important as technology is easy to use so ahmed can you yeah please show the presentation number 3 i think the biggest struggle will be the easy to use feature of yes number 3 this one yes i is just could you please check if it is the 1st one or the 2nd no no it is the 1st one the 2nd one so it is not this one yeah so i am going to talk about a little bit about how this remote control should be appear to be more easy to use i think i think the feature easy to use is more important than being fancy but okay we can discuss about it later generally generally this remote control should be should be something my opinion the 1st feature is just to be easy to use so the more frequent buttons should be larger they should be placed in a good position inside the remote control and i can conclude like this that we should not need to learn how to use it it should be we should not need to open a book and start reading and learning how to use this remote control okay so what i found out that as i said i think it is better to put more frequent buttons which are used more in the middle of the remote control and they should be bigger in size the shape of remote control should be in a way which can which should be taken easily in hand it should not be completely like a cube it should be it should have round edge so then it is easier and maybe just like some toys some joystick which is easier to take inside the hand and also because because customers does not like to buy lots of battery it should not consume lots of energy it should not consume lots of energy okay and my personal preference is as i said just putting these buttons in special places and cover some buttons which are not used that much like settings button like mobile phone usually some mobile phone cover the dialing number parts so we can cover these buttons which are not used or number buttons for the for the for the can channels and just put volume change or channel change buttons in the remote control and if the user needed to do some more complex tasks here he can open the cover and then change settings or something like this and also i think if you put some some some some buttons in the size of the remote control it can be used easier not on remote control i do not know if i can explain well but just in size for example a sliding or rolling stuff if we put it inside then we can easily manipulate with thumb so it can be another preference and i do not know but i think usage of speech recognizer can be good i know that it consumes lots of energy but if we do it in some way that it sleeps when there is no sun and when it detects some sun it may consume less energy and i think it is good because it is something new and usually young people like something new so it may not be very useful but because it is new people may buy it i personally think there should be a big difference between something otherwise they prefer to buy something which is coming from a famous company or that is fine okay peter okay some good news from me for me from hamet but bad news from bob obviously because spongy design i do not like it there is an engineer but okay so could you please fabian open it yeah person 2 and which one probably the 1st one i am not sure but check the 1st one most of the things i have to write myself on the board but yeah that is it just it is only this slide yeah this is just one thing i wanted to mention and show you that i just found this that our company developed 7 7 inch tfc screen which is good news for us since we wanted to include the display there so i probably draw it i will draw it down the overall scheme this is the stuff that i can use okay so this will be like the overall scheme or overall requirements from the engineering point of view 1st thing is this will be the overall shape no i am not speaking about the real shape of the device but the shape of the inside of the device device so there will be some circuit for the power so say power circuit here the main energy will be taken from batteries that we can and if we decide to use the speech recognition stuff there we must use additional source of energy which i found the best is to use the solar cells which can supply everything everything i was computing all the all the things related to the speech recognition and it is okay to use just 2 batteries and solar cells so no problem there can be also solar cell the main board with all the circuits will take at least 7 to 7 centimeters so this is my like hard requirement for the guys from the design so at least 7 to 7 it depends where you put your screen because the screen is 7 inch so it depends on you where you put it does not matter it is just one chord from from the main board to the screen which can be elsewhere so this will be tft and on the main board we have the interface to the microphone which is somewhere say here interface to the microphone then the graphical card for the tfc and the 3rd unit is the ir the good news is that we decided to use the infrared unit because our company has also developed a chip for communication by the infrared including all the stuff inside so it will be very cheap for us so infrared here so once again the overall requirement 7 to 7 cm for the board which has to be which can be spongy but has to be this size and the tft which is 7 inches i have to check what i wanted to from my point of view i do not care about the material used for the overall of all the device can you fit any for example the tft or any electronic device in a spongy feeling or is there any problem for that for that for example put electronic card on a spongy thing i can imagine it could be a problem all these things in this box are okay to put in any shame basically but we have to take care of the tft well sponginess maybe it is a good feature since it takes if it is around the tft then it is good because it is just keeps it safe i do not know i do not know maybe it can have 2 shares a hard shell inside and a sponge shell outside maybe put electronic in a box and a spongy thing around where is that well it is maybe related to the ui can i ask a question yeah that is all for me this 7 inch tft screen how big is it in reality well 7 to 7 inches so like that yes that is quite big have we decided that we are going to use this tft screen no i do not think it is 7 by 7 i think it is 7 to be honest i was usually when they say 7 inch i think it is a general one each yeah i do not know i do not know one each honestly speaking i was thinking that it was 7 centimeters initially but it is 7 inches but i think we can cut it you can cut the tift screen yeah no problem no problem because because then the size of the graphic card will be 14th so yeah but no problem to me to cut the screen okay so so for the same price we have 4 screens now okay technical engineers so what is the size of the device well this is like this is almost nothing 7 to 72 at least well some 3 millimeters or something even from my perspective 7 centimeters by 7 centimeters is still yeah but we wanted to be can you hold that you know because if it is too small we can we can lose it at home you know what user wants they want a small remote control or yeah a small control they should be in hand or something but it is something that 7 centimeters square easy to hold i think so if the roller buttons on the side you do not have to catch it like that but just like this and you know follow follow well that is does not task for me but so maybe you can finish your presentation and after we will discuss this okay thanks that is it okay so okay so so i think we have a lot we have to take decisions today so i think we are still some work to finalize our idea and take decisions 1st i think energy is a key problem because it depends what can we have as feature if we use only batteries for example or something like that because can we have lcd and speech recognition with battery and it is also related to the size of the device of the device just the point to the energy things if we use the batteries and the additional solar cell then it is okay for speech recognition and lcd so no problem in energy i think but we have to use the solar cell otherwise not like but using how many batteries for example or what maybe what is the size of the batteries yeah i was thinking just common a cells okay so like 13 to 5 centimeters i do not know exactly but so for you solar cells where is the sun if someone is watching tv inside does not need to be it is hard it just the daylight you know i suppose that the remote control will not be in the in the room like this where there is light only and there are people but at least when there is tv you can get light from the tv i do not think it is enough okay okay it is a it is a compromise you know at least it is a new at least it is a new and maybe technology yeah that is why i wanted to include the speech recognition because you wanted all the new things and if you watch tv outside it is very useful i think before talking about the other thing the important thing is the case what are going to be the size because it is with drives the other what we are going to use as features and so on for example for the lcd if we choose to have a small device we cannot use the device we cannot use this such a screen is okay but the board that is a problem what what would you guess as a shape what would be the shape i think i think the being large or small is not important the only important thing is to be able to take it in inside hand easily so let us say an average size size okay and it should not be very heavy also and i prefer to it should not have a uniform shape so in the middle it should be a little bit thinner maybe maybe so we it is like like some joysticks you can take some some joystick you can take inside hand easier because it is it is designed for your taking into account your finger shape and your palm shape so the general shape should be like this i think 7 centimeter by 7 centimeter is a little bit large so 7 not 7 but let us say 5 by 10 it is i think it is just my opinion which is the same area yeah could you read could you redesign your board 5 to 10055 centimeters by 10 centimeters yeah right yeah i think it is feasible well one how could we do it we could put the board next to well under the lcd and for example make the lcd be totally unrelated to the thing that you hold in your hand like holding something and the lcd to be just on top of it you know somehow but maybe let us stick to the spongy thing like one unit 5 to 10 it would be feasible the easiest thing would be to have a smaller lcd if it is possible okay so 5 to 10 i think it is visible so we agree with a small or 5 by 10 or i do not know but i do not want to now invent something new because we did not discuss about it so using some lcds we can touch so we can remove keys and just having i do not know the name lcd response into fingers touching screen something like you touch screen so but for now if we do not want to use such kind of screens i think we are using a smaller screen is better because the problem is we have a limited amount of time so we cannot do something very new so let us go for a small lcd yeah so just just give me the the 5 by 10 numbers that you find the best and send it me so 5 by something okay so what about so the case we talked about something easy to use you said something easy to use but how does that fit in a fashion way like with fruit and vegetable and about and about the color and logo of the company and so on now can we do that my 1st idea is because our color is more yellow and it should be easy to take in her hand i thought about banana or something like that which is fruit and 7 to 10 banana a big banana 4 gay rather mango or something well it is definitely the obvious choice with the color of our company i mean what other but other fruit i do not know what you do you know of any other fruit and vegetables that are yellow yeah i do not know if you can fit with the technology you as a specialist that is mean banana well but if it is if it if the banana is big enough then yes so if you want to look at the screen and banana you know i think this the screen has to be square or it can be like a shape quite well it can be whatever you want but if it is square then we get 4 screens out of one by cutting just but if you want some shape then we can only get like 2 screens out of 7 to 7 inches so it is like more more expensive to have shaped like that but i do not care you know if we feel this requirement i would like a shaped screen i think that is more important than saving a bit of money on on the tft screen maybe the banana could be like a bit fatter than than the yeah yeah you should remember banana but it does not have to like modify banana okay where is the size and exactly the shape of banana so well we stick to banana yeah banana is good okay great so the last point we decided it is infrared i guess yeah as it is already yeah yeah yeah so that is it i think about the concept you have other thing to add to this point no so about the user interface so we are going to use lcd in the last meeting we talked about hidden buttons i do not know what we are going to do with that you talked about the buttons on the side yeah it would be cool yeah cool yeah what feeling of the banana you know should discover the other button yeah okay and you mean the 1st layer would be spongy yeah obviously so it is like silly but the people will appreciate it is it is it possible to do that it would be a great idea but is it possible technical like doing a spongy layer i think if we have a spongy layer on the outside of the banana it is easy to make that you know to manipulate that to be a cover that you can pull off something like plastic cover covering some interface usb interfaces in digital cameras you see it is like pulling you open a plastic cover and you see some usb interfaces some some interfaces for adapter so keys can be buttons can be covered like this with a plastic covered and when you open this cover it is like peeling a banana so something like this yeah but do you see that as a rigid thing or like like a banana something very soft you can open like a banana or is it possible to make it soft yeah yeah it is a like like a plastic cover so i think so i do not know what you think bob but it would be great for users i think and i think for sure definitely the softer the better yeah cool honestly speaking i cannot imagine it so far but it will be terrible hidden in a other remarks or something we did not or something we did not talk about yes yet or i think we are almost there maybe how can we if we have a soft thing like this and to open it we have to attach it somewhere i do not know how to do that technically or you could use velcro yeah maybe or maybe magnetic yes yeah it is a good idea yeah magnetic magnetic if i yeah it can it is it can be a plastic cover sticking to the to the all the stuff like with magnetic magnetic material in the border so it sticks like it sticks like refrigerator door completely okay and when you try to open it it will be opened easily so you can be sure that it will not be open while you are while you are commonly using buttons on the banana and what would be the material of the 1st layer i mean like soft plastic or yeah i imagine some sort of vinyl yeah you know you know sort of a with a swayed sort of feel maybe well since since the things like the like the screen and the solar cell has to be has to be like kept kept it in shape we cannot so we need that the peeling i do not know but we should take care of these 2 things so if the solar cell will not be visible while the banana is closed then the material must be able to put the light inside you know so that we can reach the energy out of that so you are saying is it possible to have a solar cell and this removable cover it is possible but and a banana i do not know i do not know how to do it if it is better to put the solar cell to the peeling or how to say this or inside but then it must be some window some window there you know and something we forgot maybe about the speech recognition system now we are going to use it or yes i think it is important i think yeah one of our feasible and it is already is something technology so we have the design the good shape new and so on and we have also the technology thing will be and even the easy to use things so it will be so we had also the speech recognition so we had a speech recognition so that is great we have decided everything and i think we are in a good way so the next meeting we start in 30 minutes so the industrial manager will work on the look and feel design the user interface manager will work on the user interface device and the marketing expert will do the 1st product evaluation okay so i hope you can do that in 30 minutes and yeah i think you should work together as you ahmed and peter to work in a 1st prototype and more about the shape and so on and how you can manage to put everything together as usual you will receive some specific instructions and so on thank you everybody and see you in 30 minutes okay thank you thank you thank you i am going to thank you