okay well let us start what are we doing oops ah pinball okay okay not doing ah 0 hey ah now i have my screen back too very good okay yeah we have presentations so 1st it is your turn mine 0 great yeah huh is not it amazing yeah very interesting industrial designer interface concept yes well let us talk about the interface concept 1st i will i will discuss the buttons we just chose show you some samples discuss some colors and design maybe already and my personal preferences well we chose the power button to switch the television on and off the bu the mute button to switch the volume on and 0 on and off the channels buttons one to 9 and off 0 to 9 and the button to choose higher channels than 9 the volume and channel quadrants left and right up and down arrows to do the volume and channel and the menu menu button to man manipulate the l c d display i found some interesting samples examples well what is pretty standard is that it is that they are all pretty high large yeah a lot a lot of buttons buttons yeah large and and and pretty thin and and long power buttons are mostly at the top left or right well we see the the the same arrows like there and yeah well arrow b buttons can be blue and what is interesting is the the the icons on the buttons some buttons have icons like the play and stop but we do not use that but these we we have to choose the right icons or or letters this is the v for volume but they are both a v so it is it is not really very clear what is the function of that yeah yeah so that is can you go back one page for the menu what do we use for that well we do not have buttons for the menu or we may have to use channel of the volume and channel yeah i thought that was our idea okay so how but you have to put it on the like this yeah or or this and that the menu button is okay yeah but has to be clear that you can use the arrows yeah okay yes so the the icons on the arrows as well you mean yes the 2nd one yeah well that is something to think about okay maybe i will have something in my presentation and you will see it okay okay well i do not i do not know if we have to discuss this already or in the next meeting but as we have to to to design the the case and the whole remote control in our our our corporate company colors and the logo i would recommend a yellow case round edges the logo at the bottom and well maybe each each set of buttons has has his own color so it is good recognizable k so i think not too much colors no not too much but no no no no it is not flower power but this has to be has to be trendy and and s okay yeah so good good icons on the buttons and and big buttons is my personal opinion okay that was that thank you so you are next i am next okay yes no here we go at 1st we will i will f say something about what younger people want okay our group w w we want to sell our remote controls to and then i will discuss what my opinion is about the costs about what battery is in it what kind of buttons also 1st the younger people they want like soft mat materials and primary colors like totally yellow totally red so it is visible the shapes are curved and round like you also said maybe it is nice to get a remote control not like all the other ones straight and flat and long but to give him the shape of your hand so you it is easier to use or something like that but that is just an idea and then i will have to discuss about the costs of all the things for the remote control the battery there are few options i think the best option is to use the basic battery so everybody can buy it at the at the supermarket or use a k kinetic battery like within a watch when you shake it a few times it it is loaded the the form of the remote control i think it is also nice have it curved and maybe like it is hand shaped so you take it here in your hand and here are the buttons material you use plastic hard plastic because it will not have to burst like in the in one time and also rubber because the younger people like that what we see in the research the push buttons we have one new thing discovered it is a scroll push thing like a mouse maybe it is easy to use for the channels when you want to go m move up you just scroll up and click on the button if you want to see the next if you want to see that channel and also for the mouse for the volume it is also easy to use just scroll a bit up scroll a bit down and that is also easy just w when you have a thing like this and you get it here you can do it with your thumb and with your l left hand you can push the buttons if you push channel one you can see channel one the electrics with a scroll push button we must use regular chips there are also simple chips they are cheaper but then we have just a basic remote control and i think there are a lot of those things and people will not buy it any more they have seen enough of it and you have also advanced chips but that is with the l c d screen and the costs will increase a lot more and i think our budget is too low to use and an l c d and the chip who is more expensive and maybe it is also then thoughtful if we u use as different kind of shapes for the for remote control that we then use the primary colors like you get a yellow remote control red one blue one et cetera you have any more questions about this i think the main thing is we look at the costs yep and not too basic not a basic remote control who everybody already has yeah but thi i this is with an l c d no not not with an l c d no is not no but the l c d is easy when you use the scroll buttons then you can scroll you see what number and then you push yeah but then what i say the costs will get a lot higher but then it is not easy to use scroll wheel th then you will see it on the television if you do not yes but then yeah then you go one down one up yeah but l when you see a menu on the television when you scroll it is like you see one to 20 you go s scroll up and push number tw 20 yeah but like we said before it has to be used on every television so you may not be no the television must do that so yeah i think the younger people will have newer televisions which can provide our remote control yeah but young people have to have all their room and mostly they are smaller yes so but that will not be a problem i think most the times that are not advanced televisions no but then we will get to the regular remote controls and i think what i said everybody has them has them already and they go to a supermarket and buy them for €2 and ge and get the most cheapest thing and i think we must look further to to devel d develop something news okay can you give an indication in b in the cost difference between the chip with l c d or without i got it on my screen and it was higher but i do not know how much higher cause it i think if we have an l c d it will also sell a lot better that is important that is true and that might bring back the costs but then we will i think we must discuss who what will be better if we have a better shape of the remote control or better options on it with a scroll menu a w scroll thing and a l c d and then a flat remote control or a more hand shaped remote control with scroll without l c d yeah maybe you can look how how much it is for the l c d i can look on my it is very important note that the push button requires a simple chip chip a scroll wheel requires minimally a regular chip which is a higher price range the display requires a advanced chip which is which in turn is more expensive than the regular chip yeah more expensive but how much does not say 0 huh okay that is from my manufacturing division okay kay well thank you my turn yes next so so yeah so my presentation is about trend watching i did some trend watching it is very important to keep up with latest trends cause if you do not you will not sell so well how we did do that well we made an investigation of the market by trendwatchers they watch in cities like paris and milan of course well known for their trend trends and well what did you find we have 2 groups young and trendy and the old and rich well th and the young and trendy they they starting to like fruit and vegetables as a theme for n clothes shoes and also products and material that should feel have a spongy feeling and to get a feeling for what it is here is an image of it then the old and rich they like dark colors and simple recognizable shapes and they also like familiar material especially wood now another picture to get a feeling for this well then already come to my personal preferences we aim at the younger market so we should also be look at their trends however with trends it is always if there is it is now it it it might last one year and next year it be can be totally different and i think we want to sell our product for longer than one year so we m must not just only look at what the trend is now as it might be totally different next year so that is one thing to keep in mind changing covers yeah any questions nope no no it is clear so now it is ah let us see now w we have to decide well we have to decide on the concept so we have to look at is next components and user interface concept so now we have to make some concept maybe one of you can paint it on the board 1st user interface how w how we how we make it yes a concept on just should not we 1st discuss about like what w we all yeah yeah but maybe we can paint it what do we want yeah but if i paint with i will paint okay well something like this or yes shapes or what do we need can make several concepts what yes okay we have this and we had the idea of an a more like sh in the shape of your hand okay more like something yeah i i i yes m like yeah i can not doctor i can not draw it i have to and you have to yeah i am not a designer it is more 3 d like when you have a part here this is the remote control and then you have something like th this under it so it is easier to get it like this yeah yeah it is like a gun a g so it has to be soft and it has to be soft yeah okay so you can squeeze in it and sorry and the buttons buttons buttons on top of it and here the scrolling you can do it with your thumb no it will not but but i that is the only scroll button on it then but now we use one scroll button and the other one is here one till 0 till 9 yeah okay but well there one for the sound and one for the channels but but how yeah and the b yeah yeah how or 2 buttons okay and i if we go to 2 scroll wheels if kay c if we do if we use one then we will have just a switch on it and you will just switch it and now it is the sound to switch back that is th that is more difficult but if we have a me yeah it is better in if we have a menu how do we choose other options with the menu button and then you also can scroll scroll in it just not like all the other ones with this thing and here an arrow here an arrow here an arrow here an arrow yeah because from h 100 remote controls 99 have it but if we do not have a l c d we do not have a menu yeah then we have it on the t v the menu yeah but again maybe th how do we know the t v can handle it you do not know so there is no menu i do not know it is like some sort of teletext option but we do not have teletext no so you can not use it and if we put an l c d thing on it then the costs will be much higher okay we make 2 concepts one with l c d one without l c d kay but you all like this kind of thing good concept but with the scroll button that is one and and this one has to be soft and this has to be harder because when it falls it mu mu must not burst or some kind of rubber around it it is one 2 number 2 and you can and you can make the the power button as a trigger yeah like yeah ah that is nice here trigger no just to but when you handle it you put it on and off it is not good to use yeah but i will zap 0 like a yeah fuck out no it is not good yeah now 2nd concept one with l c d one without l c d then paint it paint it with the scroll thing on like this one with 2 scroll buttons and one with without yeah one with a with a menu and one without a menu so and the one with with a menu has an l c d draw it unbelievable do i have to do everything blank you have not so difficult yeah but if you put push the the menu button that is the menu yeah wh what there for the l c d screen yes but you do not know which of the scroll buttons you have to choose you have to for the menu yeah one that way and one that way so then it depends on the cost s on and off but is it easy to use when you have it on your left side and when it is not too big just like a a phone m yeah maybe it is better if the scroll wheels are more separate yeah separate more separate h yeah yes okay like you have the menu button in between yeah on the left a scroll button and on the right a scroll button but would it be easy to use then if it is like you have a big very good is it better when you the menu you have to go there there there there i also think this concept is not what the young people were looking for yeah they were like round curves different yeah okay that is that is the outside okay okay okay but now the 1st the buttons think we have we have now 2 buttons missing the the mute button sorry we have 2 buttons missing the mute button and the to to have to numbers mute and the other okay yeah not so difficult but personally i think 2 scroll buttons are not easy to handle but how do you want to solve it with the switch button yeah but on the menu that is not easy no like then you go down you switch you go into the right you switch you go down 0 you mean like that yeah then you can also have like th a joystick yeah and joystick i think yeah but is it does that break a joystick or a small one just like in a laptop yeah like in a laptop s s some sort of thing a little bit bigger with easier thi mean it is better but how expensive it is i do not know 0 why do i pay you for well better ideas okay or no scroll things just a shape and no no for the young peoples i think scroll button is good it will not work yeah huh so think we have to keep them or a remote control more like joystick yeah but is it that is not expensive than joystick is better a small one a small one like this like a nintendo k no just like in a playstation thing a laptop small round then it is not so big no no no i mean the the shape of the remote control 0 the sh yeah but then you can you have to use t with one hand just like a playstation thing yeah so maybe if it is possible it is not too expensive i think a joystick is better a small one so please look at it no that is okay i got and on the l c d how much it costs it costs extra they are not in details it is more expensive or less expensive huh yeah we i think you get it so after this meeting you have half an hour to fix it then i have to come with it yes i got my personal costs i i do not i do not know the costs your problem not mine then i will make something up okay so do we have other concepts then for the components we use a normal battery yeah then it is ch cheapest way i think yeah or the or the kinetic with normal battery no no kinetic yeah i think it is yeah more expensive kinetic is ch makes it more expensive yeah so we use a normal battery yeah yeah okay yes chip depends on the l c d depends on the scroll scroll if we use a scroll then we have the regular chip if we do not use a scroll then we can use the simple chip and that is yeah and we if you use the l c d we have to the most expensive yes okay yeah so depends on the l c d and the scroll if we yeah okay if we no okay scroll wheel so i have this so it will be the advanced chip or the regu or the regular chip okay so the shapes of the design depends on the l c d and but it has to be small i think or shall we just put it on the pistol thing and then just put also on l c d on it if you have pistol it l c d is not easy y y yeah but just use your thumb if you use a phone if you yeah k yeah but but then you have it i use my thumb like th if you have pistol you have it so yeah and the screen is well then you have to keep it this way to look at the screen if you have a joystick on no if you have like an a ni a playstation game controller yeah and you move up f forward down left then you have just yeah a little bit curved it is not just straight no no no that is how we use it that is why they make joysticks like that i think yeah but then you look forward yeah but and then you can y yeah yeah n well if you have to look at it if you kay here is our designer if we have then something standing here with the l c d yeah then it goes like this yeah why not if th n well it is for the younger people yes of course it is something new it is that is good good but the it may not break now we put rubber around it okay if that is possible yeah hard plastic the shape and around it hard around it rubber and the the hand shape is also rubber okay i can not see the or you can turn it inside but the easy of th the ease of use was not the most important aspect of it but that is huh no that is true for us it is about to sell it yeah of course this is something new okay then this is the design and the buttons are on the next page so depends on the cost so we have one minute costs are okay one i think no no you have more more 7 you have still 10 next meeting 30 minutes so hurry up 0 that is us together you 2 stay here paint it okay now you have to so i think it is clear check your mail so yeah yes it has to be ready in the next meeting so what cookie okay next meeting is called the detailed design so everyth everything has to be ready okay thanks for your attention kay see you at the next meeting bye bye
sorry i am sorry i am not quite i am not quite i am not in the i am still still under i am still under the still still under the indruck what is the end of the end of it the presentation was all clear that is a problem okay well let us start what are we doing hop 0 pinball okay we are not doing ah hey now i have my screen back too very good okay we have presentations so 1st it is your turn mine yeah great is not it amazing very interesting  industrial designer interface concept yes well let us talk about the interface concept 1st i will discuss the buttons we just chose show you some samples discuss some colors and design maybe already and my personal preferences well we chose the power button to switch the television on and off the mute button to switch the volume on and off the channel buttons one to 9 and of 0 to 9 and the button to choose higher channels than i the volume and channel quadrant left and right up and down arrows to the volume and channel and the menu button to manipulate the lcd display i found some interesting samples examples well what is pretty standard is that it is that they are all pretty high large yeah large and pretty thin and long power buttons are mostly at the top left or right we see the same arrows like there and yeah well error buttons can be blue and what is interesting is the icons on the buttons some buttons have icons like the play and stop but we do not use that but these we have to choose the right icons or letters this is the v for volume but they are both a v so it is not very very clear what is the function of that yeah yeah so that is can you go back one page for the menu what do we use for that we do not have buttons for the menu or you have to use the channel of the volume and channel quadrant but yeah i thought that was our idea okay so you have to put it on the like this yeah or this that the menu button is okay yeah but it is to be clear that you can use the arrows yeah okay so the icons on the arrows as well yeah it is a 2nd yeah well that is something to think about okay maybe i will have something in my presentation okay you will see it well i do not know if we have to discuss this already or in the next meeting but as we have to design the case and the whole remote control in our corporate company colors and the logo i would recommend the yellow case round edges the logo at the bottom at the bottom and well maybe each set of buttons has its own color so it is good recognizable i think not too much colors i know not too much but the flower power no but this has to be trendy and okay yeah so good good icons on the buttons and big buttons is my personal opinion okay that was that thank you so you are next i am next okay yes here we go 1st we will say something about what younger people want our group we want to sell our remote control soon then i will discuss what my opinion is about the costs about what battery is in it what kind of buttons also 1st the younger people they want to younger people they want soft materials and primary colors like totally yellow totally red so it is visible the shapes are curved and round like you also said maybe it is nice to get remote control not like all the other ones straight and flat and long but to give him a shape of your hands so it is easier to use or something like that but that is just an idea and then i will have to discuss about the costs of all the things for the remote control the battery there are a few options i think the best option is to use the basic battery so everybody can buy it at the supermarket or use a kinetic battery like within a watch when you shake it a few times it is like it is like a little bit times it is loaded the form of the remote control i think it is also nice to have it curved and maybe like it is hand shaped so you take it here in your hand and here are the buttons material use plastic hard plastic because it will not have to burst in one time and also rubber because the younger people like that what we see in the research the push buttons we have one new thing discovered it is a scroll push thing like the mouse maybe it is easy to use for the channels when you want to go move up you just scroll up and click on the button if you want to see the next if you want to see that channel and also for the mouse for the volume it is also easy to use just scroll a bit up scroll a bit down and that is also easy just when you have a thing like this and you get it here can do it with your thumb and with your left hand you can push the buttons so if you push channel one can see channel one the electrics with a scroll push button we must use regular chips there are also simple chips they are cheaper but then we have just a basic remote control and i think there are a lot of those things and people will not buy it anymore they have seen enough of it and you have also advanced chips but that is with the lcd screen and the costs will increase a lot more and i think our budget is too low to use and an lcd and the chip who is more expensive and maybe it is also then thoughtful if we use different kind of shapes for the remote control that we then use the primary colors like you get a yellow remote control red one blue one etc you have any questions about this i think the main thing is we look at the cost at the costs and not too basic not a basic remote control who everybody already has this is with and lcd now not an lcd no no this is easy when you use the scroll buttons you can scroll you see what number yeah then you push but then what i say the costs will get a lot higher but then it is not easy to use scroll a wheel then you will see it on the television yes but then you go one down one up yeah but when you see a manjune on the television it is like you see one to 20 you go a scroll up and push numbers of 20 it has to be used on every television so you may not be television must do that i think the younger people will have new televisions which can provide our remote control younger people have them on their room and mostly they are smaller yes so but then will be a problem i think most of the times that are not advanced televisions but then we get to the room get to the regular remote controls and i think what i said everybody has them already and they go to a supermarket and buy them for €2 and get the most cheapest thing and i think we must look further to develop something new can you give an indication in the cost difference between the ship with lcd or without or without i got it on my screen and it was higher but i do not know how much higher i think if we have an lcd it will also sell a lot better that is true and that might bring back the cost but then i think we must discuss what will be better if we have a better shape of the remote control or better options on it with a scroll menu a scroll thing and an lcd and then a flat remote control or a more hand shaped remote control with scroll without lcd maybe you can look how how much it is for the lcd it is very important now the push button requires a simple chip a scroll wheel requires a regular chip which is a higher price range the display requires an advanced chip which in turn is more expensive than a regular chip more expensive but how much does not say that okay that is from my manufacturing division okay well thank you my turn yes next so my presentation is about trend watching i did some trend watching it is very important to keep up with latest trends because if you do not you will not sell so how would you do that well we made an investigation of the market by trend watchers they watched it in cities like paris and milan milan of course well known for their twins and well what did they find we have 2 groups young and twendy and the old and rich well the young and 20 they are starting to like food and vegetables as a team for clothes shoes and also products and material the should feel have a spongy feeling and to get a feeling for what it is there is an image of it then the old and which they like dark colors and simple recognizable shapes and they also like familiar material especially wood now another picture you get a feeling for this well then i already come to my personal preferences we aim at the younger market so we should also be a little bit of a market we should also be a look at their trends however with trends it is now it might last one year and next year can be totally different and i think we want to sell our product for longer than one year so we must not just only look at what the trend is now as it might be totally different next year so that is one thing to keep in mind changing covers any questions no no it is clear so now it is now it we have to decide we have to decide well we have to decide so we have to look at next components we use the interface concept so now we have to make some concepts maybe one of you can paint it on the board 1st the user interface how we how we make it yes a concept on should we 1st discuss about like what yeah but maybe we can paint it what do we want yeah but if i paint would i paint okay well something like this or shapes or what do we need can make several concepts yes okay we have this and we had the idea of a more like in the shape of your hand more like something yeah like yeah i can not draw it i have to i have to i am not a designer it is more than 3 d like when you have a part here this is the remote control and then you will have something like this under it so it is easier to get it like this it is like a gun so it has to be soft and it has to be soft yeah okay so you can squeeze in a buttons buttons on top of it and here the scrolling you can do it with your thumb that is the only scroll button on it then now we use one scroll button and the other one is here one till one till 0 till 9 okay but one for the sound and one for the channels yeah yeah or 2 buttons okay and if we go to if we do if we use one then we will have just switch on it you will just switch it and now it is the sound switch back it is more difficult if you have a if you have a menu how do we use other options with the menu and then you also can scroll in it just not like all the other ones with this thing and here an arrow here an arrow here an arrow here an arrow here an arrow because from a 100 remote controls 99 have it but if we do not have an lcd we do not have a menu then we have it on the tv the menu but again maybe how do we know the tv can handle it you do not know do not know so there is no menu it is like some sort of teletext option but we do not have teletext so you can not use it and if we put an lcd thing on it then the cost will be much higher okay we make 2 concepts one with lcd one without lcd okay but you all like this kind of thing good concept but with the scroll button and this has to be soft and this has to be harder because when it falls it must not burst or some kind of rubber around it one 2 number 2 and you can make the power button as a trigger yeah that is nice you are triggered no it is one you have noise you put it on and off not good to use i will step fuck out no it is not good no 2nd concept one with lcd one without lcd then paint it with a scroll thing on this one with 2 scroll buttons and one with without yeah one with a menu and one without a menu one with with a menu has an lcd throw it unbelievable do i have to do everything plank do you have i am not so difficult what if you push the menu button what is the menu yeah they have the lcd screen yes but you do not know which of the scroll buttons you have to choose you have to for the menu yeah one that way and one that way and one that way so then it depends on the coast on and off but is it easy to use when you have on your left side and when it is not too big just like a phone maybe it is better if the scroll wheels are separate more separate like you have the menu button in between yeah on the left a scroll button and on the right a scroll button but would it be easy to use then if it is like you have a big very good is it better is it better when you are in the menu you have to go there there there there i also think this concept is not what the young people were looking for they were like round curves different yeah okay that is the outside but now the 1st the buttons we have now 2 buttons we have now 2 buttons missing the mute button sorry you have 2 bits missing the mute button and 2 to have 2 numbers mute and the other not so difficult personally i think 2 scroll buttons are not easy to handle but how do you want to solve it with the switch button yeah but in the menu that is not easy you go down you switch you go into the right you switch you go down 0 you mean like that 0 then you can also have like a joystick a joystick thing yeah but is it a break joystick or a small one just like in a laptop like in a laptop some sort of thing a little bit bigger but how spain is i do not know why do i pay you for well  better ideas or no scroll i think it is just a shape and think scroll button is good so i think we have to keep them or a remote control more like a joystick yeah that is not expensive than that joystick is better a small one a small one like this like a nintendo work no just like a playstation thing a laptop small round then it is not so big no no i mean the the shape of the the remote control it is like a place then you can you have to use with one hand so maybe if it is possible it is not too expensive i think a joystick is better a small one so please look at it let us look at it and then then the lcd homersk thomas cross actually they are not in details it is more expensive or less expensive i think you get it so after this meeting you have half an hour to fix it then i have to come with it i got my personal cost i do not know the cost your problem not mine and i will make something up okay so do we have other concepts then for the component we use a normal battery then yeah it is the cheapest way or the kinetic normal battery i think it is more expensive so we use a normal battery yeah okay chip depends on the lcd it depends on the scroll if we use a scroll then we have the regular chip if we do not use a scroll then we can use the simple chip chip and if you use the lcd we have the the most expensive yeah okay it depends on the if you scroll we now okay scroll we also have this so it will be the advanced chip or the regular chip okay so the shapes of the design depends on lcd and but that is to be small i think or shall we just put it on the pistol thing and then just put also on lcd on it if you have a pistol and lcd is not easy you use your thumb yeah but if you use your phone yeah i use my thumb yeah but then you have it like if you have a pistol you have it so and the screen is if you have a joystick on you have to keep it this way to look at the screen if you have like a a playstation game controller yeah and you move up forward down left then you have just yeah a little bit curved it is not just a no no no that is how we use it that is why they make joysticks like that i think yeah but then you look forward forward and then you can you know if you have to look at it okay we are not designer we have then something standing here with the lcd yeah then he goes like this no why not if no it is for the younger people yes of course it is something new that is good good but it may not break then we put rubber around it okay if this is possible hard plastic the shape and around it hard around it is rubber and the hand shape is also rubber okay or you can turn it inside but at the eg off and the easy of use was not the most important aspect of it no that is true for which it is about to sell it this is something new okay then this is the design and the buttons are on the next page so it depends on the coast so coast are okay we have one minute i think no more more 7 still 10 next meeting 30 minutes so hurry up there is us together you 2 stay here pain did okay now you have to i think it is clear check your mail so it yes it has to be ready the next meeting so cookie okay next meeting is called the detailed design so everything has to be ready okay thanks for your attention okay 35 minutes see you at the next meeting bye bye 5 minutes to finish shit couple now look now there is 2 batteries in the black hole 2 nice where is your 2nd both in front i think yeah  yeah okay i will leave okay so good luck i am sitting see you all the little key note dorn come now now we can we want to nederlands safe no in this room speak english that is an order we speak some sort of dialect it is called dutch it has to be ready in 30 minutes see for play 0 no new page please