okay welcome everyone to our next meeting i am busy writing and busy leading the meeting but i have prepared a little presentation once again or at least an agenda i think the biggest part of the presentation will be on your side we are here at the conceptual design meeting which is hereby opened once again i will try to write some minutes which i just from the previous meeting placed inside our project folder which was quite some typing today we once again have 3 presentations if i am right and after that we will take a decision on the remote control concepts and just as the last time we have 40 minutes to accomplish that okay well i would say let us start with the 1st presentation kay in the same order as last time w sure okay alright well take it away okay welcome you all components design 1st of all i would like to accommodate some of those things i elaborate some of the things i did i i elaborated on the concept what should be said about the components its properties and what kind of materials should we use to to make one of those r remote controls well 1st of all i have d subtracted some of the components that is that are used are w w you know from what the remote control is formed 1st of all the case the case the surrounding of the of the the remote control i would like to give you an idea of how i thought about do not destroy my giraffe giraffe has gone now okay the case was is made from rubber i suppose there is one of the because when you use a remote control a lot of people will will drop their remote control and they break becau the titanium was also an option drop it but it is a very expensive material rubber is i think the best suitable material to use for our for our remote control it is poss it is also possible to create fancy colors with rubber rubber l makes it easy to to to it lets lets itself color titanium you have to paint it and with that it is possible to scratch it or yeah make it ugly rubber the total piece of rubber that is sor that is that is used to make the case is the same color so if you scratch it it is still the same color perhaps it is a little bit damaged but it is a very strong material i h i had an idea single covered curved sorry single curved so it is t 2 dimensional i think it is it is best to draw 0 green it is a color bright color fancy color new forward blank okay you have to go t let us make it black okay i thought of an idea like this 0 that delete blank okay so it also looks nice when it is on your table so you get it does not lay flat down on the table but it is c it is stands 0 it is a side view side view yes it is side view so i i am not technically good at th 3 d modeling but it is just an idea i had so it is it is very so its also looks nice when it is on the table the graphical user interface and the buttons we also thought about that already i thought about the l c d touch screen which is is easy to clean too one of the great advantages of the l c d screen you just use some or another cleaning cl some cleaning stuff and it should be made of strong plastic and it should be bright well i already s explained some properties of that material and i think well we also we almost concluded about that this should be our button component true so that is all about the buttons the batteries we also thought about that already will be chargeable with an option for a mount station so you can put the the remote control in a mount station so its charges itself up instead of plugging it in or something like that questions no no no no no no okay just looking and they should be long lasting not not be empty in about 2 minutes or 30 minutes or 40 minutes of use and next step is the chip th the component that is makes or transmits the signal to the television there was an option to use s a rather simple chip but i think because of our highly requiring requirements there should be an advanced chip in it with also the ability to facilitate speaker speech recognition which unfortunately is still in a test phase so there should be some more investigation on that side my personal preferences i also overheard in the last meeting that there shou we should use our own business colors that was correct was not it okay i think they are rather boring for for use with rubber well business colors i thought it was the the slogan and the corporate image so yeah it needs color okay they should be m sh they should be in mind was not it but i do not think you have to make the entire thing in the corporate color okay so it d it does not says to have the slogan it must be recognizable okay okay well that is possible of course we could make a little r and r on the top of the machine you can put the r and r so they are pretty boring i suggest because just the availability with rubber to make fantastic colors and also in a lot of possible colors so it is possible to make very fancy remote controls which peopl who people in which people will find they are interesting and will buy them faster when they look at the same old gray or black colors s as i said before rubber is is impossible to damage severely imp instead of of course you can break it when you you when you break it in s for example with a pair of scissors or something like that but i if you drop it it is not broken right away s instead of using plastic hard plastic or titanium and i personally liked the single curved remote control because it yeah it makes sense okay well that is all about my my findings alright okay thank you i will go next next alright so i thought a little bit about the interface how it should look and we determined that will not be no buttons but only an l c d screen so i had to look on that and the design is therefore based on what we just thought of 1st there are some new findings and new technology for speech recognition and this is that you you ask you give a question through through the device and it answers you and they already put this in an in a coffee maker and so that it you say good morning coffee maker and it says t says to you back good morning joe or what is your name this and there is an easy way to program that you say record into the device into the speaker and then you say the question and 3 seconds later you say the answer and then when you say the question it gives you the answer perhaps it is useful perhaps for because people lose the remote they can yell remote where are you and calls or something it is true and perhaps we could implement that and then i have to go out of the presentation because i tried to make some kind of a a idea of how it should look like but i can not draw 0 my god so do not make too much of it i tried to the l c d screen i tried to sort of to draw i thought at least the icon for the volume i do not know if there is an icon for the program but yeah not just a p p yeah just a p 0 okay so and then the buttons above and below the and the and the mute button also recognizable as an icon where is where is the button for 2 i forgot that one okay i thought i forgot something but and and the numbers that should be a bit larger i think it is not really on scale and and so forth ah does not matter an options button and i thought the the button for teletext apar apart because it is not really options i think it is options is the settings of the remote and of the t v and that kind of thing no yep so could call it settings or something but this is a bit how i thought it and the l c d somewhere on the remote perhaps we could be more curvy the remote perhaps should so that it is better in your hand or something 0 okay yeah but and and a microph microphone for the speech recognition if we want to implement that and then if you press the op options button now we have an example of and then you should get the other options with what what you could do and that you could do with something like this this 0 yeah and it is also i thought think we discussed earlier that older people do not really want to use these extra settings and older people a also do not really want to use this th this kind of option menus so they want to u use one button and then something happens and not choose with this kind of and you could put in a an a really s little scrolling device on the side of your remote so you could scroll scroll across these things okay that is an option and that was my finding dinge thanks yeah okay now our 3rd go danny go danny team member with his presentation okay i am going to tell you something about a trend watching the trends from the past years what the people like what the youngsters like what the elderly people liked about shapes colors material and stuff kay the method i used was like i told i watched the trends from the past years about colors shapes material they wanted from elderly and young people so we can keep that in mind for designing f the device itself findings i made the most important thing people liked last year was that the remote control should be look look fancy the 2nd important thing that w should be if inv in innov innovative okay like the l c d screen that is quite innovative so that should be great meeting for this and the 3rd thing is it should be easy to use i think with only one menu 4 button channel volume it should also be enough for easy to use the personal preferences for the young people they liked fruity colors like banana yellow strawberry red and stuff fruity grass green fruity yeah like that the round shapes and soft material m materials like the rubber it should be soft i it should feeling spongy or s sponge bob like things okay let us build it into a sponge th elderly people like au colors which y are being seen in autumn like woods dark brown red deep reds and stuff they liked square shapes with round edges and hard materials like wood titanium they those kind of materials they liked this is a bit like the young peoples like the fruity colors innovative all the colors you see the blue the red the white the yellow that stuff and then i th i i personally thought the front side of the shape should be something for the youngsters like like 0 y this or something it is it is a bit like a banana and the color should be yellow or something and for the elderly people just plain old because we decided to have 2 kind of remotes 2 designs or was it 2 colors it was one remote i think different colors different colors yeah we should decide whether it is going to be with round shapes i think like my colleague you said is that is e better or for the elderly people something like like the ipod or something with round squares simple but easy to use so that is it okay so for the older people a more traditional form that is my yeah like the older 0 older colors i can maybe you could you could change the colors that was also the idea i do not know which shape you should should take but yeah colors th the elderly people yeah i guess changing colors will be easier than changing yeah changing just the shape of the remote control the shape of it perhaps you could find something in the middle yeah s round corners but s but square yeah round but square yeah but maybe then both groups will not buy it yeah i i if you do it square with round corners but a little in the middle of it i do you know what i mean yeah i know what you mean kind of like a wait like like this a bit yeah so it is a bit square but it is also a bit round kinda like a beer glass so but then yeah i know what you mean same sides it is also easy to to have to to put in your hand but that is yeah but that is also how other remotes are shaped so that is but perhaps that is a good thing so that is easy to use yeah people know the will recognize that is as a remote control yeah when i saw your d 0 look something like that autumn colors like red brown they liked the wood a lot huh so maybe we could give it like wooden loo look look or something in that color yeah yeah yeah kinda like old cars and a bit bit old school style renaissance medieval kind of things yeah let us put it all together swords those kind of yeah those kind of things so you see the big difference between the young people fresh exciting yeah and the old people old and boring but that is easily to do with the color i think so sorry that is easy to do with the colors i think yeah i think it is it is easier to do in color than in shape yeah because otherwise we have to get different shapes and color way easier than yeah the shapes yeah we think so too in material yeah rubber rubber is like i said young people like more soft materials and spongy ones and the old people like plain wood yeah yeah so we have to decide if we are going to use real hard rubber or soft rubber yeah think also in between or something something between that soft rubber yeah soft rubber which you can you can feel in it yeah i know what you i do not think you should be able to mold it but or no or or wh what is something harder it should should not be no no no but but you have to like like like a a eraser or something that is the bit you can press it in or something harder yeah bit like this kind of rubber this yeah something like this yeah but it is quite hard this yeah it is quite hard but you can press it in yeah it is feels kind s spongy spongy something i do not think it is rubber no n n n so we need a spongy feeling did you have something about are you going to invite sponge bob maybe he can yeah so we should 1st decide about shape i think ding ding yeah i think that is the better thing to do which then you can fit the l c d screen in it and can decide i also s can not help but notice that you used an you had a remote control and the l c d screen was rather small yeah w i think that l c d screen should be like yeah it it is supposed to be bit s bit s bit yeah this was your size but i think it should be larger yeah 3 quarter of the of the yeah 3 quarters so so you do not have to put your 0 yeah the buttons will not get that small when the l c d screen is new blank so when you get this ooh kinda like this or should it be larger yeah larger i think larger because you want to put your hands you want but if you pu now you can put your hand there and then you will not touch the screen yeah becau because you have yeah perhaps that is best yeah okay true true true true your thumb here but not on the screen because yeah that is that is an idea yeah yeah looks a bit like a game boy now because when you put your f yeah but if yo if you make the the l c d screen as large as the remote control itself you will you will always get some you yeah you always touch it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah going to be very greasy and stuff but it will not get that small because you have how much 9101112131415 buttons on the screen yeah one to 0 the 2 digit yeah you do not want it too small how yeah how large you have to you have to because some fat people with d thick fingers will press 3 buttons at same time yeah they have thick fingers but if you want to make it in international japanese people got rather small hands yeah true but yeah we have we have the zoom option right and we got these large zoom opt ah yeah of course yeah you can make it larger to to to with accompanying greater fields to push the button yeah yeah yeah and we will not include a a pen or something to point hey we we want to do it with our fingers right no yeah your fingers yeah yeah you do not want because if you lose the pen if you lose the pen you can not use yeah y you could include a pen use a pen you you c you can lose the pen yeah but i think people want to use a remote with with their fingers because th they are used to that and yeah the fingers yeah yeah 0 yeah if they think it is handy to use a pen yeah i think this this is a good size for the screen i do not know how how large the actual remote should be but a little bit like this or something and maybe we have to add a tissue to remove the grease from all the fingers huh yeah yeah you can do whatever any cloth yeah but that that can be with plain soft tissue yeah you can buy those at okay well maybe if i can interrupt you maybe i should should show some points on which we should take a decision sure so we can discuss these points those points energy question mark how how should we supply the thing with energy and how are we going to do it with separate docking station and then put in it chip on print and case those are points my coach advised me to discuss here but i hope you have ideas about them i think energy were batteries and then and yeah the docking station yeah so that is the the the 1st point maybe it is better to to include rechargeable batteries which you can recharge through the docking station we already decided that on the previous meeting w yeah yeah yeah so if the badg the batteries are dead yeah just like with the telephone i kinda like your then you can re you can change them yeah you got some some of those wireless mice yeah yeah yeah like those mouse computer mouse kinda like those kind of batteries yep but it should be th i think normal batteries not not like 2 or 2 yeah normal plain you no normal plain batteries you can buy at the supermarket or retail shop yeah yeah simple rechargeable batteries yeah yeah what was with the chip on print the chip on print you got to f yeah i think so chip on print with a with a simple a sim not a simple but a print plate we also discussed that did not we yeah but how did this how does that with a l c d screen you still have a print plate yeah yeah yeah you always have a print plate beg your pardon you always have a print plate right yeah sure of course yeah always so i dunno what w what we have to decide about that yeah well it is a good question it just was in there and i did not have any information about it but well chip on print i think what they mean with the regular rubber buttons that you got it is always clear for the remote control when you press a certain button but when you got a l c d screen with no with not the buttons are not always on the same place yeah okay but for example if you enlarge a button or if you got several options appearing on your screen the co ordinations are not always the same yeah when you got a regular button th the button of stand by is always on the same place and you got on the and on the yeah okay but the p print plate of l l c d screen is more advanced than a normal print plate yeah so that that is not of any discussion i think well you need some kind of c p u i guess i suppose so i do not i dunno i do not think that is it is a simple c p u but it does not yeah yeah okay but i d i i do not know if nor 0 s it is quite a simple l c d yeah because it has to b yeah it is quite a simple l c d screen i think they do not need that big of c p u yeah but it the the remote control has to know whether you are in a settings menu or just you just want to turn up the volume yeah okay true true true so it has to have some kind of a calculation unit or c p u to know in which state you are and which button you are pressing in at the right moment because we are projecting projecting the buttons on the l c d screen yeah and a touch screen makes it possible to to get the co ordination of your finger on the screen yeah and the case yeah we already discussed the case we wanted to make it from rubber and it is rubber yeah but but a hard rubber like this or softer rubber or yeah hard rubber i think that is the easy to ha to to yeah it bounces back from the floor where you throw it yeah yeah sure look we have different colors yeah yeah this in different colors so the shapes is something between the square shapes with round colo corners and a round shapes d no i do not think i think it is more round than square yeah it is a bit but i think it should be a bit longer perhaps so it meets i think it meets more the young people than the older people yeah yeah but that is what we want i think so too yeah that is our target it is our main target yeah yeah lower than 40 years i think it was well and how about my idea of making it with one single curve 0 yeah that that i think i thought that was a quite good so i yeah because it is a gadget and you want to show it off of course yeah yeah yeah you have a fancy design then right away yeah you can put it on your table with the l c d screen you do not have to put it get it in your hand so because it yeah you can put it next to you and then dive it in and yeah yeah that is a good idea it is a lot easier yeah yeah alright so so so you got did you write that down okay so and then got a single curved rubber f fancy colored remote control you can not you you can not 0 you c you can draw it on your paper and then load it on the yeah yeah you can it is pretty easy but yeah but i wrote it down and load it on the the user the server and what about the user interface there are also some some questions about the concepts i think you have some ideas on that yeah i had what i just i should again you you showed your drawing i miss a few buttons but well at least what we should also have on i just remembered a menu to go back through the 1st if if you touch options you can not go back to this right away now yeah you have to go back yeah this is not it better to have the sound and the general buttons horizontal i do not know with the -and the plus i think it is i think it is easier than i do not know i i thought it was easier to handle this way but i do not know what they think yeah sorry would you like the the buttons horizontal or v vertical for sound and channel depends on the screen th if you make the screen vertical it does not matter if you make it in a rectangle right well if we make it like this i think if you yeah i so it is it is it is it is put it like this square i think it is it is easier to have it something like 0 a button minus here plus over here a minus here plus over here 0 okay and on here yeah the other buttons and on here the top the options and then you have something like the p over here yeah but i think i wou and the sound i think that is a matter of what you are used to something i think i would put a +and a min here and then the p in the mid in the middle and the sound in the middle something like sh take your time -plus almost minus yeah but i think when you are holding it you could press the -and the +and with the other finger the -and the plus yeah i think you are going to s you are going to use it with one thumb yeah but i think yeah i do not know perhaps i have some examples w we will leave that to the usability engineering then i do not know who is the usability engineering that is me she is but i am going to look if i have got some examples cause perhaps you should choose what is most often used 0 the cause they can use that better yeah consistency yeah 0 i have that those s numbers i here is our here are or a good watch i do not really know b everybody is searching in his data yeah channel selection per hour 168 volume selection 4 times an hour yeah but but i mean if it is usually plus or min above each other or next to each other on a normal remote yeah so not how much n not how often it is used but w what is what is usual or normal yeah that depends on on on the remote yes i am looking here but here is it is below here also and now here is here is next to each other i think it is it is a i think because i have 2 televisions at home one is horizontal one is vertical so it depends yeah it does it does not really matter but yeah yeah depends i think the the the volume was usually above each other because you go higher and down yeah lower and the the pay the the the program is next to each other because you would go further and back true that is how it is is usually when i look here okay that is what i see let us cut to the chase it has got to change yeah well i think we have we do not have to decide about that now how where we will put the buttons just the i do not know yeah is it is user interface yeah concepts component this concept is in the actual design but you should know where you would place a okay well le yeah interface yeah and the speech shall we implement that or yeah well we just heard about the new technology huh yeah i think it is it is easy for that where are you but then it says i am here technologies yeah yeah makes it possible to but then you should also find a place you could if you do it like this you could put it in a corner or something yeah you can talk into the corner yeah a microphone yeah not even necessary because a lotta you can make a very sensitive microphone yeah so it makes it possible to just put it arou underneath it or on the on the bottom of the remote yeah yeah maybe at the bottom where you can can hel hold it with you hand that there is also a microphone but yeah that is also yeah right over there so in the middle or something but that is not import i think that is not im very important because yeah it does not matter where the microphone is yeah yeah but you should decide where you want to put it ah okay sure okay well tha right i think where it is not seen underneath the most indeed it should not be very visible inside you could p you could put it in a logo of the company yeah yeah yeah sure why no well maybe just in the the spot you just pointed out i i between the round of the r yeah yeah because i think it should be in a in an important position where people can see it because it is the the unique idea of our remote huh the the speech control yeah yeah okay so where do you want to put it well maybe where the one hand yeah but it does not makes it any more fancy because you get to see yeah actually it does because it you can you can find it better if you use it yeah yeah bu but it is a way for you to so it makes more sense just cause other remotes do not have that yeah okay but are we talking about the button or about the microphone about a microphone there is no button yeah because a microphone is very small thing but you can make it look like it is big so as its its really an important function of the remote yeah i think the left s under corner should be the best where is not i it is not most in sight yeah okay i think well put it there i do not mind that does not does not really matter no actually does not okay alright so any more so well type supplements interface type anything yeah well we already s discussed that huh the the l c d and the l c d yeah supplements well the supplement is to yeah yeah i think i thought the like you said like scroll next to the remote is not that handy yeah i think it is better to just up what you would like to do on the screen if you want to go back you have to back button go back yeah if you want to choose audio settings you press audio settings and it goes to that s sub menu hey yeah yeah the the young people do like scroll yeah use the scroll yeah yeah i think so too you do like it so why not on on side or at least yeah i do not know if it is really the scroll but the menu they like most and i think you can never get through a menu great with a scroll fast yeah yeah i think it is is faster so if you have got a settings if you becau i think the scroll is easier if you have a lot of options but if you do not have a lot of option then yes but you have it is f we have 5 or 4 or something you have a lot of options because when you use yeah you get w when you use the settings menu for example to look up some some channels on your on your television y you should scroll scroll down on a menu which probably does not fit on your screen huh yeah okay true yeah so then it is very handy to to scroll down you make just a rubber just like on your mouse or okay just put it on the side and it is very easy to use okay no problem and i think i would it would make even more fancy because you have another interesting thing on the side which you can touch and yeah yeah yeah it is also different yeah yeah okay okay well there is our 5 minutes warning any more questions about about the design or the user interface or different components everyone no colors are clear shape is clear material is clear everybody think they can can okay what is the standard color work for that and a standard yeah we do not no we have different color is there a standard color i i you got you got different colors but you should have a standard color how many colors are we going to you should you should have a black one because i think black is standard black yeah black i think is is the standard black with the with the yellow but if you want to be different then dark gray something like this this color or something just a regular remote color yeah like like yeah and then have different covers to use or or silver i think it is better to have silver nowadays silver yeah silver i think you see more silver than black yeah you see a lot of t silver televisions but still silver and black are well silver is new but also traditional so silver rubber yeah the the silver black are our main colors yeah i think we have silver black and between those is like i dunno s 5 colors between them or something yeah w what about a yellow thing i mean it yeah y i think it is better to yeah yeah yeah it will be a banana yellow we have could be ugly but it is definitely fancy r red but yeah yeah th yeah that is right green wood brown but if you use silver rubber s silver rubber is not fancy yeah true when you use titanium silver is fancy but when you use silver rubber it is not fancy yeah silver has to shine and rubber does not shine especially when it is made of soft rubber like this yeah you understand yeah i understand yeah i would think about colors like red yellow green blue just yeah 0 of course yeah the fruity colors and the autumn colors like red and brown dark red and brown fruity yeah just all kind of color fruity loops maroon yeah yeah okay okay so and and do we have to have a normal black one or who is pinging is it no you are pingin okay you ping i thought we okay so that wraps it up everybody knows what to do yeah well i wrote it down here well not what to do well i do not know what to do but i wrote it down here what to do not what to do look the next meeting is once again in 30 minutes okay here are the individual actions and especially notice that the industrial designer and the user interface designer are going to work together on a prototype drawing on a smart board ooh right s tough yeah and of course to all 4 of us specific instructions will be emailed by our personal coach we will be available but do we have to we will work together but do we have to stay here or do we well i i would say just wait for email and find out right yes i do not know okay thin i think we should work okay well that was what i had to say yeah i think final thoughts from anyone or no no we are finished okay well thank you very much yeah finished thank you very much so we have to keep talking english now
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or at least an agenda i think the biggest part of the presentation will be on your side we are here at the conceptual design meeting which is hereby opened once again i will try to write some minutes which i just from the previous meeting placed inside our project folder which was quite some typing today we once again have 3 presentations if i am right if i am right and after that we will take a decision on the remote control concepts and just as the last time we have 40 minutes to accomplish that okay well i would say let us start with the 1st presentation in the same order as last time okay 0 take it away bling bling okay welcome you all components design 1st of all i would like to accommodate some of those things i elaborate some of the things i did i elaborated on the concept what should be said about the components its properties and what kind of material we use to make one of those remote one of those remote controls 1st of all i have subtracted some of the components that are used from what the remote controls formed 1st of all the case the surrounding of the remote control i would like to give you an idea of how i thought about do not destroy the giraffe the giraffe is gone now okay the case is made the case is made from rubber i suppose it is one of the because when you use remote control a lot of people will drop their remote control and the brake because titanium was also an option but it is a very expensive material rubber is i think the best suitable material to use for our remote control it is also possible to create fancy colors with rubber rubber makes it easy to let itself color titanium you have to paint it and with that it is possible to scratch it or make it ugly the total piece of rubber that is used to make the case is the same color so if you scratch it it is still the same color perhaps it is a little bit damaged but it is a very strong material i had an idea it is single covered it is single curved so it is 2 dimensional i think it is best drawn green it is a color bright color fancy color new forward blank okay okay let us make it a black okay i thought of an idea like this and that blank okay so it also looks nice when it is on your table so you get it does not lay flat down on the table but it stands or side view side view yes it is side view so i am not technically good at 3 d modeling but it is just an idea i had so it is very so it also looks nice when it is on the table the graphical user interface and the buttons we also thought about that already i thought about the lcd touchscreen which is easy to clean too one of the great advantages of the lcd screens to just use some glass x or another cleaning cleaning stuff and it should be made of strong plastic and it should be bright well i already has explained some properties of that material and i think we also almost concluded about that this should be our button component so that is all about the buttons batteries we also thought about that already will be chargeable with an option for a mount station so you can put the remote control in a mount station so it is charges itself up instead of plugging it in or something like that questions any no no no no just looking and they should be long lasting not be empty in about 2 minutes or 30 minutes or 40 minutes of use and next step is the chip the component that is makes or transmits the signal to the television there was an option to use a rather simple chip but i think because of our highly requiring requirements there should be an advanced chip in it with also the ability to facilitate speech recognition which unfortunately is still in a test phase so there should be some more investigation on that side my personal preferences i also overheard in the last meeting that we should use our own business colors that was correct was not it okay i think they are rather boring for use with rubber well business colors i thought it was the slogan and the corporate image so yeah in the color okay they should be in mind was not it but i do not think you have to make the entire thing in the okay so it does not say to have the slogan it must be recognizable okay okay well that is possible of course you could make a little r r on the top of the machine so they are pretty boring i suggest because the availability with robert to make fantastic colors and also in a lot of possible colors so it is possible to make very fancy remote controls which people who people in which in which people will find their interesting and we will buy then faster when they look the same old gray or black colors as i said before rubber is impossible to damage severely instead of of course you can break it when you you break it for example with a pair of scissors or something like that but if you drop it it is not broken right away instead of using plastic hard plastic or titanium and i personally liked the single curved remote control because it makes it fancy okay well that is all about my findings okay thank you i am welcome next all right so i saw a little bit about the interface how it should look and we determined that there will be no buttons but only an lcd screen so i had to look on that and the design is therefore based on what we just thought of 1st there are some new findings and new technology for speech recognition and this is that you ask you give a question through the device and it answers you and they already put this in a coffee maker and so that you say good morning coffee maker and it says to you back good morning joe or what is your name this is an easy way to program that you say record into the device into the speaker and then you say the question and 3 seconds later you say the answer and then when you say the question it gives you the answer perhaps it is useful perhaps for because people lose the remote they can yell remote where are you and that is going to call for something and perhaps we could implement that and then i have to go out of the presentation because i tried to make some kind of idea of how to do like but i can draw so do not make too much of it i tried to the lcd screen i tried to draw i thought at least the icon for the volume i do not know if there is an icon for the program but no just p yeah just p so and then the buttons a button below the mute button also recognizable as an icon watch the button for 2 digits i forgot that one i thought i forgot something i forgot something and the numbers it should be a bit larger i think it is not really on scale and so forth an options button and i thought the button for the teletext apart because it is not really options i think options is the settings of the remote and of the tv and that kind of thing you could call it settings or something but this is a bit how i thought it and the lcd somewhere on the remote perhaps you could be more curvy the remote perhaps it is better in your hand or something and a microphone for the speech recognition if you want to implement that and then if you press the options button and we have an example of and then you should get the other options with what you could do and that you could do with with something like this this and it is also i think we discussed earlier that older people do not really want to use these extra settings and other people also do not really want to use this kind of option menus so they want to use one button and then something happens and not choose with this kind of and you could put a little scrolling device on the side of your remote so you can scroll across these things okay that is an option and that was my finding thing thanks yeah okay 3rd go danny go dan team member with this presentation okay i am going to tell you something about the trend watching the trends from the past years what people like what youngsters like what elderly people liked about shapes colors material and stuff the way that i used was like i told i watched the trends from the past years about colors shapes material they wanted from elderly and young people so we can keep that in mind for designing the device itself files i made the most important thing people liked last year was that the remote control should be look fancy the 2nd important thing that will be in enough innovative okay like the lcd screen that is quite innovative so that should be great meeting for this and the 3rd thing is it should be easy to use i think with only one menu for button channel volume it should also be enough for easy to use the personal preferences for the young people they liked fruity colors like banana yellow strawberry red and stuff grass green yeah like that the round shapes and soft materials like the rubber it should be soft it should be feeling spongy or some sponge bob like this let us build it into a sponge elderly people like colors which are being seen in the autumn like wood dark brown red deep red and stuff they liked square shapes with round edges and hard materials like wood titanium those kinds of materials they liked this is a bit like the young people is like the fruity colors innovative all the colors you see the blue the red the white yellow that stuff and then i i personally thought a front side of the shape should be something for the youngsters like like this or something it is a bit like banana and the color should be yellow or something and for the elderly people just plain old because we decided to have 2 kind of remotes to designs or was it 2 colors different colors yeah we should decide whether it is going to be with round shapes i think like my colleague you said is that is better or for the elderly people something like like the ipod or something with round squares simple but east diffuse so that is it that is my people are more traditional yeah like the older all the colors i can maybe you could change the colors that was also the heavy yeah which shape you should take colors the elderly people yeah i guess changing colors will be easier than change the shape of the other control perhaps you could find something in the middle yeah round but square round corners but square yeah maybe then both groups will not buy it yeah if you do it a square with round corners but a little in the middle a bit yeah what you mean kind of like a like this a bit yeah so it is a bit square but it is also a bit kind of like a beer glass so but then i know what you mean same side it is also easy to have you to put in your hand yeah but that is also how other remotes are shaped so that is yeah perhaps that is good thing so that is easy to use people know the we will recognize that as a remote control what i saw in your look something like that the autumn colors like red brown they like wood a lot so maybe we could give it like a wooden look or something kind of like old color and a bit old school style renaissance medieval kind of things so you see the big difference between the young people fresh exciting and old people that is easy to do with the color i think so sorry it is easier to do in color than in shape otherwise we have to get different shapes and colors are way easier than the shapes and the material yeah rubber rubber is like i said young people like more young people like more soft materials and spongy ones and the old people like plain wood yeah so we have to decide if we are going to use real hard rubber or soft rubber or something something between that also in between yeah soft rubber which you can feel in it i know i do not think you should be to mold it no or what should be like but you have to like like like like a erase or something that is a bit you can press it in or something harder a bit like this kind of rubber yeah something like this yeah this is quite hard yeah it is quite hard but you can press it in it feels kind of spongy spongy or something do not think it is rubber no no no so we need a spongy feeling if you have something we are going to invite spongebob maybe he can so we should 1st decide about shape i think yeah it is the better thing to do then you can fit the lcd screen in it 0 moses i also can not help but notice as you used you had a remote control but it had the lcd screen was rather small yeah i think the lcd screen should be like this is like your side but i think it should be larger yeah 3 quarter of the yeah 3 quarters so you do not have to put your yeah the buttons will not get that small when lcd is green is so when you get this like this and like this kind of like this or should it be larger larger i think larger because you want put your hand yeah because you can put your hands there and then you will not touch the screen yeah okay true true true your thumb here but not on the screen because yeah yeah it is an idea looks a good like a game boy now yeah but if you make the lcc screen as large as the remote control itself you will you always get some you always touch it yeah you are going to be very greasy and stuff but it will not get that small because you have how much 910101010 and you will you will you will you always get some 10 11 12 13 14 15 buttons on the screen 120 you do not want it too small how large you have to because some fat people with thick fingers do not press 3 buttons at the same time but if you want to make it an international japanese people get a rather small hands yeah true but we have the zoom option right the zoom option 0 of course yeah you can make it larger with accompanying a greater feel to push the button and we will not include a pen or something to point we want to do with your fingers right your fingers yeah you do not want to because you lose a pen if you lose a pen you can not use yeah but they think it is hand with the finger yeah i think this is a good size for the screen i do not know how large the actual remote should be but maybe we have to add a tissue to remove the grease from all that yeah but that is yeah that is is it whatever any soft tissue yeah you can buy those maybe if i can interrupt you maybe i should show some points on which we should take a decision sure so we can discuss these points there are those points energy question mark how should we supply the thing with energy and how are we going to do with a separate docking station and then put acus in it chip on print and case print and case those are points my coach advised me to discuss here but i hope you have ideas about them i think energy more batteries and then a docking station yeah yeah it is better to include rechargeable batteries yeah which you can recharge through the docking station yeah so if the bed your batteries are dead i kind of like you are change them and you get some some of those wireless mice computer mouse kind of like those kind of batteries but it should be i think normal batteries not like to no normal plane batteries you can buy the supermarket or re touchable batteries and what was with the chip on print the chip on print the chip on print yeah i think so i think so chip and print with a simple not a simple but we also discussed that did not we yeah well how does that work with lcd screen you still have a print plate you always have a print plate thank you pardon always have a print plate light yeah sure of course always so i do not know what we have to decide about that yeah well it is a good point a good question it was in there and i did not chip on print i think what they mean with the regular rubber buttons that you got it is always clear for the remote control when you press a certain button but when you got an lcd screen the buttons are not always on the same place for example if you enlarge a button or if you have got several options appearing on your screen the coordination are not always the same when you got a regular button the button of standby is always on the same place and you get on the print plate of lcd screen is more advanced than a normal print plate so that that is not of any discussion i think now you need some kind of cpu i guess i suppose so i do not know i do not think it is a simple cpu but yeah okay but i i do not know if nor us yeah because it has to yeah it is quite a simple lcd screen i think they do not need that big but the remote control has to know whether you are in a settings menu or you just want to turn up the volume yeah okay true true true so it has to have some kind of calculation unit of cpu to know in which state you are and which button you are pressing at the right moment because we are projecting the buttons on the lcd screen a touch screen makes it possible to get the coordination of your finger on screen in the case we already discussed the case we wanted to make it from rubber and a hard rubber like this or softer rubber a hard rubber i think it is easy to it bounces back from the floor when you we have different colors the shapes is something between the square shapes with round corners and the round shapes no i do not think i think it is more round than square yeah it is a bit so it meets i think it meets more the young people than the older people yeah but that is what we wanted huh yeah that is our target it is our main target yeah lower than 40 years i think and how about my idea of making it with one single curve 0 yeah that is i think i thought that was quite good because it is a gadget and you want to show it off of course yeah you have a fancy design right away you can put it on your table with lcd screen you do not have to get it in your head you can put it next to you and then type it in it is not easier yeah so so you write that down and you got a single curved rubber fancy colored fancy colored remote control you can not can 0 you can draw it on your paper and then load it on the and load it on the user the server about the user interface there are also some questions about the concepts i think you have some ideas yeah i have one i showed your drawing i should go again buttons at least you should also have a i just remembered a menu to go back through the 1st but if you touch options you can go back to this right away now is not it better to have the sound and the channel buttons horizontal i do not know with the -and the plus i think it is easier than i do not know i thought it was easier to handle this way but i do not know what they think sorry would you like the buttons horizontal or vertical or sound and trans on the screen if you make the screen vertical it does not matter if you make it in a rectangle if we make it like this so it is square i think it is easier to have it something like button minus here plus over here and minus here plus over here and minus here plus over here and on here other buttons and on here the top the options and then you have something like the p over here and the sound i think that is a matter of what you are used to i think i would put the +and the min here and then the p in the middle and the sound in the middle something like shit take your time 0 almost i think when you are holding it you could press the -and the +and with the other finger the -and the plus yeah i think you are going to use it with one thumb but i think yeah i do not know perhaps i have some examples i do not know we will leave that to the usability engineering who is the usability engineering sheet shee i am going to lose if i have got some examples examples because perhaps you should choose what is most often used yeah because they can use that better consistency yeah 0 that i have that those numbers here are you are a i do not really know everyone is searching in a data channel selection per hour 168 volume selection 4 times an hour but i mean if it is usually plus or mean above each other of next to each other on a normal remote not how often it is used but what does you do on the remote it is not looking here but here is below here also and here is next to each other i think it is i think because i have 2 televisions at home one is horizontal one is vertical so it depends it does not really matter but yeah depends i think the volume is usually above each other because you go higher and down and the program is next to each other because you go further and back true that is how it is usually when i look here okay let us go to the chase yeah well i think we do not have to decide about that now where we will put the button i do not know it is user interface yeah competent it is the concept it is in the actual design you should know where you move place yeah interface and the speech shall we implement that yeah well we just heard about the new yeah i think it is easy for that where are you then it says i am here makes it possible to but then you should also find a place you could if you do it like this you could put it in a corner or something you can talk into the corner a microphone yeah not even necessary because you can make a very sensitive microphone so it makes it possible to just put it around underneath it or on the bottom of the yeah maybe at the bottom where you can hold it with their hands and there is also a microphone over there so i think that is not very important because it does not matter where the microphone is but you should decide okay sure i think where it is not seen the most indeed it should not be inside it should be inside we put it in a logo of the company between the round of the r because i think it should be in an important position where people can see it because it is the unique unique idea of our remote the speech control where do you want to put it well maybe it does not make it any more fancy because you get to see actually it does because you can find it better if you use it yeah but it is a way for you to so it makes more fancies because other remotes do not have that yeah okay but are we talking about the button or about the microphone by the microphone there is no button a microphone is very small thing but you can make it look like it is big so it is really an important the function of the remote i think the left is under corner should be the best where is it it is not most inside okay i think put it there i do not mind that does not really matter no actually does not okay so any more so well type type supplement interface type yeah well we already discussed it the lcd yeah supplement i thought like you said like scroll next to the remote is not that handy i think it is better to just type what you would like to do on the screen if you want to go back you have a back button go back if you want to choose audio settings you press all your settings and it goes to that sub menu that is my name to do you yeah the young people do like the scroll do you like it yeah i think so too so why not on side or at least yeah i do not know if you really the scroll but the menu are not the data they like most and i think you can navigate through a menu great with the scroll yeah i think it is faster i think the scrolls easier if you have a lot of options yes but if you do not have a lot of options then you have a lot of options because when you use the settings menu for example to look up some to look up some channels on your television you should scroll down on a menu which probably does not fit on your screen yeah okay true so then it is very handy to scroll down you make just a rubber just like on your mouse or just put it on a side and it is very easy to use okay no problem and i think it would make even more fancy because you have another interesting thing on the side which you can touch it is also different so different yeah okay okay well there is our 5 minutes warning any more questions about the design or the user interface different components colors are clear shape is clear materials clear okay what is the standard color is there a standard color no we have different color how many colors are we go you have different colors but you should have a standard color i think black is standard black i think is the standard with a yellow dark color dark or something like this this color or something just a regular yeah like yeah and then have different covers i think it is better to have silver nowadays silver yeah i think you see more silver than black see a lot of silver television yeah the silver and black are new but also traditional yeah i think we have silver black and between those like i do not know 5 colors between them what about a yellow thing i mean yeah yeah it is better to it would be ugly but it is definitely fancy red yeah that is right but if you use silver silver rubber is not fancy true when you use titanium silver is fancy but when you use silver rubber it is fancy silver has to shine and rubber does not shine especially when it is made of soft rubber like this yeah you understand yeah i would think about colors like red yellow blue yeah of course the fruity colors and the autumn colors like red and brown now yeah dark red and brown maroon yeah okay okay and do we have to have a normal black one or what is it no yeah okay you pinging okay so that wraps it up everybody knows what to do well i do not know what to do i wrote it down here what to do the next meeting is once again in 30 minutes here are the individual actions and especially notice that the industrial interface designer are going to work together on a prototype darwin on a smart board and of course to all 4 of us specific instructions will be emailed by a personal coach we will work together but do we have to stay here or do we well i would say just wait for an email for an email and find out i do not know okay i think we should work okay well that was what i had to say final thoughts from anyone no no okay well thank you very much yeah finished thank you very much so we have to keep talking english now i just like to wait on things i will get you i will make a new one for you thank and i fish out bye okay i try to put the minutes in the project folder as soon as possible okay hopefully fast at this time okay good luck bye it is really right here i can there here for 5 this is a smart board so yeah