all set okay cool right so basically i am just going to go over real quickly some news i have just got from the board on how we are supposed to do with this remote control and then i am going to turn over to you guys to make brief presentations on what you have found and then we will have a bit of discussion so basically what i have just found out from the board i dunno if you guys got this email as well but it needs to be television only so no we are not doing d v d we are not doing anything else it is just going to be a television remote okay it also needs to have the company colors included in it so that is red and black and it has to have the slogan case you guys forget the slogan it is we put fashion in electronics and no teletext i am not sure what teletext is but i am assuming you guys do so we do not want to include that in this particular design for reasons that i do not really know there is but it is the board so there you go so basically given those guidelines which will have some effect on how we design we will discuss it later i mean cause it is television only we will be able to change our well we can s sacrifice more function for a better television remote anyway so i am going to turn over to the industrial designer to go ahead and make a presentation on okay so do i unplug this bit here got to plug you in 0 right yeah yep might have to hit function f 8 but it looks like it is going to come up yep cool okay right that is page one of my presentation brilliant very nice for your 1st powerpoint it is lovely so the method we are going to have to understand how remote controls work and res successfully complete this project remote control works as follows this is all pretty basic stuff you guys sends message to another system so there is an energy source involved in that like a battery or solar power something along those lines there is an integrated circuit which is the microchip and that actually compose the messages and usually the way a a remote control works is it sends infrared bits to another system a user interface controls the chip basically that is the casing and the buttons and accordingly the messages as well so my findings i just did a preliminary study here and i found that too much metal in remote design could potentially cause interference with the ability of the remote to send commands and too much metal can cause remotes to behave unexpectedly by receiving false signals too much metal is used sometimes and people pick up radio signals and the like and there is also the possibility of the remote catching on fire and injuring the customer just think of those lawsuits that would be really bad therefore i suggest primarily plastic construction kay components just some ideas that i had energy source it is kinda hip to be eco friendly so i thought maybe we could do something with solar power with an alkaline battery backup the user interface i was since we can not use metal i was thinking maybe a high grade recycled plastic the chip silicon based chip i do not really see any way around that we can not really be different in that respect the sender well i am thinking infrared cause it is the industry standard multi channel that is a word i made up i do not really know what it means kay pal and n t s c compatible and probably a 200 foot range fair enough kay and the receiver of course is any number of electronic devices but in this case it will only be t v s personal preferences i really think that we should use plastic as opposed to metal the company simply can not afford this kinds of lawsuits which adm admittedly is going to come at the cost of a certain esthetic value cause we were thinking fine is is there a way that we can use modern types of polymers or mo modern types of plastics that maybe do have some kind of esthetic value like if a white like if we talk about like well like on the lapt on these laptops and other ones they use a a pretty nice right it needs yeah you can do i is there some kind of nice colo der quality plastic that we can work with yeah that should not be a problem for example the plastic they have on your laptop there is something that is perfectly possible for us to do okay okay that is the end of my presentation cool great thank you very much nathan if next we can have the user interface developer go ahead and make a brief presentation that would be great as well s plug yourself in here hit function f 8 real quickly hold down looks like you are in okay is it plugged in well there it goes computer adjusting th there you go there you go sweet well so here we have a my technical functions design presentation so a few of the requirements we need here we n basically need to operate an electronic device it needs to be universal and possibly operate several different types of devices although we now find that that that is no problem yeah sorry i could not get that g to use before so some of my findings basically want to send messages to a television set that would be any number of different things such as switch on the television switch to the next channel that sort of thing i think we are all quite quite intelligent and know know what a normal remote control does now some of the other things i found is a a complicated remote control sorry that we can not quite see my red there very well but this remote control has many functions so it can do a lot of things but it it is quite complicated and most users will find it find that they will not use most of the functions because they do not know how to use them and do not want to take the time to learn how to do it 0 yeah look at that as you also notice it is quite a boring design another remote control slightly different it is a simpler remote control many less buttons but has many fewer functions m much easier for the user to manipulate and use it also has a bit of a cheap look and it is also quite boring so my personal preferences nice revolutionize the idea of a remote control so attain the functionality of a complicated device but use a simple formatted display for the user to to work with and i was going to add another slide here but i did not quite have time there okay just incorporating some of the ideas that we had previously like having multiple face but it is great thanks for that ron right kay yep that is you does that mean i am up i think so okay i can plug you in 0 that would be perfect thank you slide show up and running or not give it a little bit 0 there we go perfect okay so this is me basically i was looking through some marketing reports that we have got and we had a usability test where we were actually sort like watching a 100 people use t v remotes and see what it is that they are using and then they filled out a questionnaire about what they like and what they do not about their general t v remote control practices pretty much through testing we were finding out that most of the time everybody is used to using changing the channel turning it on using the volume m the majority of the time that is all that is going on the other functions happen for some people they are important but the primary uses are really really basic and so big complicated remotes like one we saw in the last presentation are really not the general public is use they are not using a lot of it they do not need it they even find it frustrating when there are all those buttons that they do not know what to do with and we also found out that 50% of our people their the worst thing about a remote is how often they lose it and then they can not find it in the room so i think what we were talking about with a pager or something will really come into play with a lot of these people there is also a survey about what they liked about remotes and pretty much they all think they are hideous and not very useful and the younger demographics are all really interested in voice recognition options i do not know if that is something we are ready to look into technically that is up to the design people but it is s something worth thinking about especially since the younger demographic is obviously the one that is going to keep growing so if that is the direction we are headed in it is something to think about but basically it really is the primary functions and getting it to look nice which are the standards so it is a good start for us that is great thank you sarah right need to unplug this so yep i will just switch that back here need it back i will finish up with just a bit of discussion plan on for the next phase there you go right so i think we have covered most of these important questions through this through you guys is presentations we have got y the industrial designer suggests or pretty much emphatically suggested that we need to go with plastic sarah she is recommended that we go for simpler functions so fewer functions but we need to decide who are we selling this to you s your stats suggested that 75% of people under 35 wanted thought about voice control 0 right so do we want to go for that or do we want to go for an older demographic and my thought is we have got w if we are going to go for a sleek look i mean we are putting the fashion in electronics we are not catering to the pensioners of the world i do not think so yes so maybe this we should look into this younger demographic right so we need to wonder ah h about how we make it better and smaller and faster think we are constrained to plastics very well we have got this idea ron was saying we need to think about revolutionizing the way it is looking right which might be easier given that we are going for simpler function and that we are only going for a telly so how th this voice operation thing is i think is a good idea assuming that it is doable at least for the basic controls maybe we can balance it that way you know we can see right okay you can not say record alias tonight at 7 p m but we might be able to say volume up yeah right i think it would be possible to combine the locator device and the voice recognition technology 0 that could work i like that with a simple command like locate yeah and then it could start to beep and something very basic right right therefore be found sounds good is that only going to be within our 200 foot range then 0 yeah i think that is very doable okay the difficulty wh would be in i think like i you could not speak into the remote that you are trying to find kay you have something that picks up a voice from far away yeah it is a good point if it is hidden under the couch but then again you have this wee this wee thing you know that is just a little chip or whatever that has the page button maybe that could be voice activated too a little sticky pad to stick on top of your television and you just say something to into that and it yeah yeah yeah finds your k or an isolated magnet or something like or you know something that would not interfere i do not know that would be the technical thing but yeah i like that yeah i like that the voice recognition for the paging system the other thing is we might be able to handle the simplicity of a remote control and kind of put the more complicated things into a voice control so it could be sold to both the younger market and the older market true and the younger market could use kind of the voi voice control method and the older market might might k exactly and might consider the older market could use the simpler design with the traditional buttons and what not making it just an option yeah right yeah i was thinking are we still thinking about this screen sorry 0 go ahead go ahead the if we are going to do this touch pad screen thing it would be still do we know if that is an option technically right now to that is definitely an option technically okay i have looked into costs of touch screen methods and what not okay they seem to be you know almost as cheap as a button method at this point we are doing okay cause it seems like an interesting option especially because then you could have like your primary screen just be these you know 4 or 5 basic functions okay you can have menu options or something to have all these other complicated voice recognition settings yeah things that you are not going to use every day and that a lot of people are not going to use but it is an option there for this hi tech market that sort of re is the sleek thing we are going for got to wonder though if we are adding so much technology to this one remote are we still going to be able to meet out 12 pou our €1250 you know goal for selling these things true worth looking into it seems like we are not going to be able to handle all these functions with just one microchip yeah the microchip is probably the most expensive part of the the whole mechanism true okay yeah so it is just something to consider okay absolutely kay well yeah i guess we will cross that bridge in a la slightly later stages of development but yeah i know that is perfectly viable question kay so i am seeing that we are going to just basically focus on this young demographic group aim it at them but then in a sense that its bells and whistles are available for anybody who wants them but basically we will make a sleek simple functioned remote control i think this voice recognition thing is a we have got a market for it i do not think there is too many we would more or less be cornering the market on it as well we do not have many yeah i appear to have lost my microphone right we do not have many people or there is not very many competitors out there that do that so cool right i guess we have c we have touched on most of this the idea of a paging function a touch screen and face plates the thing with i see would there not be a we would have to maybe sacrifice the face plates for a touch screen i am not sure that is sincerely correct i think if you kind of take the example of a mobile phone that trying to pass a portion of the device is not interchangeable whereas the surrounding portions are interchangeable okay okay just the casing we could have the casing the the face plates okay back to the the cost the material we have to ask whether we are going to include a certain number of face plates with the package that is something i w for say we are including 3 or 4 face plates it is going to drive the cost up and the other question is if we do include them are we really in a position to evaluate that market yeah we have not done any tests on face plates and whether right see if there if there is even interest out there okay okay right off the top of my head it sounds kind of like a gimmick that would not really go anywhere yeah cause then ha you would have to who all it is not like with cell phones like where you have a you know nokia model x and then 10 people make face plates for it we would be just our model of pho of t remote control right yeah well in the publicity of a face plate on a phone is you have it out and around it is sort of emblematic whereas you are just sit at home so unless somebody comes over to watch t v yeah well hopefully some people have people coming t over to w to hang out at your house and most people have their televisions in the living room true true true alright well we can we can discuss that one further when we think about whether th when we do costs and so forth yeah 0 yeah sure true if plastic is dead cheap and if we are making the whole thing out of plastic anyway yeah we will cross that bridge later but yeah we will have to evaluate what is most important i think we have had a bit of discussion already on this thing n s there any other questions comments that came up in these presentations well have we confirmed that we are going to go ahead with a touch screen yeah yeah okay interface yeah i think that would be best let us based on what sh on what you guys have all said to me let us go for a plastic built or b plastic cased cause tha tha that is easy on the cost try to look for some kind of high quality recycled plastic as you recommended and i think that is a great idea with a touch screen for the basic functions and we will yeah tha let us provisionally let us go for a touch screen one with several submenus for possible extra stuff that one basically put the channel and the on and off switch on the touch screen do we have wait a minute it occurs to me that if we have a touch screen people are going to have to recharge their remote controls yet at the same time that might help for this whole complaint of it being lost true cause it would have a docking base but then again that costs as well yeah so these new lithium batteries they last 20 years even with the touch screen do they those new ones okay can we afford that can we afford to include one of those and will somebody buy it if we do not well i i do not think yeah i can not see anybody buying a lap a remote control that they have to plug in so we would have to see some kind of new battery technology right okay so let us go with a touch screen with some kind of you know with with some kind of cutting edge battery technology for €12 yeah well hey you know well it is it is worth looking into if not we can always default to just doing a a well presented plastic simple you know so you know it is fair enough the basics well yeah i mean you can put the we could i i dunno i mean i suppose we could put the the basics on the center easiest you know you know people know the channel and volume function make them large and easy to get at and then the the other the other bits and bobs you know go through menu w we will do the esthetics okay so we will touch screen and the battery focus on presentation kay it is th with this voice recognition option as well just as for the simple functions the the on off channels volume right and a small paging function even if you can not do voice recognition for the paging you know just some kind of simple button that is just a i guess another infrared signal to the remote control and while to emit some kind of paging just a beep okay right so any comments thoughts before we break into go into the next round of individual work on this since we are doing touch screen do we want to look into the possibility of people being able to input different types of skins for the you know the actual interface part of it and things like that or is it just going to be one touch screen for everybody be interesting what what would be on that touch screen cause you said earlier that we have to think about company colors and and 0 logo or something or motto i can not remember exactly what you said yeah the the fashion do we put fashion into electronics yeah w it is my understanding that if you were going to do a skin you would need to have some way for people to download or import skins into the remote control right and then you are dealing with ports and cords and yeah i think perhaps good idea but yeah i think that that one m might just be is too much yeah and they just yeah i think that one might just be out of the range for this particular a p d a would they would makes a lot of sense for a p d a cause you are going to be using it to connect up to things anyway but for now i dunno what do you guys think think we just need to come up with a nice black and red interface on the touch screen yeah nice that would be okay yeah i i am i am in agreement with that i am wondering how we are going to get we put fashion into electronics onto this device well but if we are going to use a touch screen where it is going to come on like on your cell phone it will have your your carrier provider name come up 1st like while it is loading and then it goes away perhaps it could be like a temporary comes on every time you turn it on and then that is it cause it is a bit much to have it like engraved on the back or something i think yeah true i am hoping for a subliminal maybe half a millisecond as it turns on yeah yeah y yeah yeah i know i d it seems like it would suffice to have just the r r on there yeah you would think jus but but apparently not if it comes from above people are not going to want their remote to boot up and to see flashing things come on so they just want it to be on and ready to go yeah yeah well fair enough and yeah that would help the battery life too and if it the remote they do have to press a button for the remote to turn on but then again who wants to turn on a remote control well all you have to do is touch the screen and it automatically goes on kind of if i 0 to wake up okay or go into like a dormant mode yep goes into a sleep mode okay 0 yeah i like that i like the idea of putting the logo in the boot up screen nice cool so any last things before we break alright fair enough we are good sounds good i am going to save th a copy of this in case you guys need any reminders i am going to save a copy of this and the minutes that i will do it in a 2nd and put them in the shared folder for later reference i have put my files in the shared folder as well brilliant yeah that is fab guys cool
all set okay cool right so basically i am just going to go over real quickly some news i have just got from the board on how we are supposed to do with this remote control and then i am going to turn it over to you guys to make brief presentations on what you found and then we will have a bit of discussion so basically i have just found out from the board i do not know if you guys got this email as well but it needs to be television only so we are not doing dvd we are not doing anything else it is just going to be a television remote it also needs to have the company colors included in it so that is red and black and it has to have the slogan in case you guys forget the slogan it is we put fashion and electronics and no teletext i am not sure what teletext is but i am assuming you guys do so we do not want to include that in this particular design for reasons that i do not really know but it is the board so there you go so basically given those guidelines which will have some effect on how we design we will discuss it later i mean because it is television only we will be able to change our well we can sacrifice more function for a better television remote anyway so i am going to turn it over to the industrial designer to go ahead and make a presentation okay okay so do i implode you in this bit here yep okay okay might have to hit function fape but it looks like it is going to come up yep cool okay right that is page one of my presentation very nice pre 1st powerpoint it is lovely so the method we are going to have to understand how remote controls work in order to successfully complete this project remote control works as follows it is all pretty basic stuff for you guys it sends a message to another system so there is an energy source involved in that like a battery or solar power something along those lines there is an integrated circuit which is the microchip and that actually composed the messages and usually the way a remote control works is it sends infrared bits to another system user interface controls the chip basically that is the casing and the buttons and accordingly the messages as well so my findings i just did a preliminary study here and i found that too much metal and remote design can potentially cause interference with the ability of the remote to send commands and too much metal can cause remote to behave unexpectedly by receiving false signals too much metal is used sometimes people pick up radio signals and the like and there is also the possibility of the remote catching on fire and injuring the customer just think of those lawsuits that would be really bad therefore i suggest primarily plastic construction components just some ideas that i had energy source it is kind of hip to be eco friendly so i thought maybe we could do something with solar power with an alkaline battery backup the user interface since we can not use metal i was thinking maybe a high grade recycled plastic the chip silicon based chip i do not really see any way around that we can not really be different in that respect the sender well i am thinking infrared because it is the industry standard multi channel that is a word i made up i do not really know what it means pal and ntsc compatible and probably a 200 foot range and the receiver of course is any number of electronic devices but in this case only be tvs personal preferences i really think that we should use plastic as opposed to metal the company simply can not afford this kinds of lawsuits which admittedly is going to come at the cost of a certain esthetic value because we were thinking is there a way that we can use modern types of polymers or modern types of plastics that maybe do have some kind of esthetic value like if we talk about like on these laptops and the other ones to use a pretty nice you can do is there some kind of nice color there in quality plastic that we can work with yeah that should not be a problem for example the plastic they have on your laptop there is something that is perfectly possible for us to do okay cool great i will see into my presentation thank you very much nathan if next we can have the user interface developer go ahead and make a brief presentation that would be great as well just plug yourself in here hit function f 8 real quickly hold down okay okay is it plugged in well there it goes there it goes there you go computer adjusting there you go sweet well so here we have my technical function design presentation so a few of the requirements we need here we basically need to operate an electronic device it needs to be universal and possibly operate several different types of devices although we now find that yeah sorry i could not get that to use before that is no problem so some of my findings basically want to send messages to a television set that would be any number of different things such as switch on the television such as the next channel that sort of thing i think we are all quite intelligent and know what a normal remote control does now some of the other things i have found is a complicated remote control i am sorry that we can not quite see my red there very well that this remote control has many functions so it can do a lot of things but it is quite complicated and most users will find it to find that they will not use most of the functions because they do not know how to use them and do not want to take the time to learn how to do it as you also notice is quite a boring design another remote control slightly different it is a simple remote control many less buttons but has many fewer functions much easier for the user to manipulate and use it also has a bit of a cheap look and is also quite boring so my personal purpose is revolutionized the idea of a remote control so attain the functionality of the complicated device but use a simple format of display for the user to work with i was going to add another slide here but i did not quite have time there okay just incorporating some of the ideas that we had previously like having multiple face plates and whatnot great thanks for that ron yep that is you i think so okay i can plug you in 0 that would be perfect thank you slide to happen or not give it a little bit okay so this is me okay so this is me basically i was looking through some marketing reports that we have got we had a usability test where we were actually sort of like watching 100 people use tv remotes and see what it is that they are using and then they filled out a questionnaire about what they like and what they do not about their general tv remote tv remote control practices pretty much through testing we were finding out that most of the time everybody is just using changing the channel turning it on using the volume the majority of the time that is all that is going on the other functions happen for some people they are important but the primary uses are really really basic and so big complicated remotes like one we saw in the last presentation are really not the general public is use they are not using a lot of it they do not need it they even find it frustrating when there are all those buttons they do not know what to do with and we also found out that 50% of our people the worst thing about a remote is how often they lose it and then they can not find it in the room so i think what we were talking about with a pager or something will really come into play with a lot of these people there is also a survey about what they liked about remotes and pretty much they all think they are hideous and not very useful and the younger demographics are all really interested in voice recognition options i do not know if that is something we are ready to look into technically that is up to the design people but it is something we are thinking about especially since the younger demographic is obviously the one that is going to keep growing so if that is the direction we are headed in it is something to think about but basically it really is the primary functions and getting it to look nice which are the standards so it is a good start for us that is great thank you sarah right so yeah i will just switch that back here i will finish up with just a bit of discussion plan on for the next phase right so i think we have covered most of these important questions through you guys through you guys presentations we have got the industrial designer suggests or pretty much emphatically suggested that we need to go with plastic sarah she is recommended that we go for simpler functions so fewer functions but we need to decide who are we selling this to your stat suggested that 75% of people under 35 want to have thought about voice control so do we want to go for that or do we want to go for an older demographic and my thought is we have got if we are going to go for a sleek look i mean we are putting the fashion in electronics we are not catering to the pensioners of the world i do not think so maybe this we should look into this younger demographic so we need to wonder how we can make it better and smaller and faster we are constrained to plastics very well we have got this idea ron was saying we need to think about revolutionizing the way it is looking which might be easier given that we are going for simpler function and that we are only going for tele so this voice operation thing i think is a good idea assuming that it is doable at least for the basic controls maybe we can balance it that way you know we can see okay you can not say record alias tonight at 7 but we might be able to say volume up yeah right i think it would be possible to combine the locator device and the voice recognition technology 0 that could work i like that with a simple command like locate yeah something very basic it could start to be right before be found is that only going to be within our 200 foot range then 0 yeah i think that is very doable the difficulty would be in i think like you could not speak into the remote that you are trying to find can you have something that picks up a voice from far away it is a good point it is hidden under the couch but then again you have this wee thing you know it is just a little chip or whatever that has the page button maybe that could be voice activated too a little sticky pad to stick on top of your television and you just say something to that and it finds your or an isolated magnet or something like you know something that would not interfere i do not know the technical thing but yeah i like that i like that the voice recognition for the paging system the other thing is we might be able to handle the simplicity of a remote control and kind of put the more complicated things into a voice control so it could be sold to both the younger market the older market the younger market could use kind of the voice control method the older market might they get it just an option exactly i might consider the older market could use this simpler design with the traditional buttons and whatnot i was thinking about the screen sorry 0 go ahead if we are going to do this touchpad screen thing do we know if that is an option technically right now definitely an option technically i have looked into costs of touchscreen methods and whatnot they seem to be almost as cheap as a button method at this point because it seems like an interesting option especially because then you could have your primary screen just be these you know 4 or 5 basic functions you can have menu options or something to have all these other complicated voice recognition settings things that you can you are not going to use every day and that a lot of people are not going to use but it is an option there for this high tech market that sort of is the sleek thing we are going for i have got to wonder though if we are adding so much technology to this one remote are we still going to be able to meet a €1250 goal for selling these things it seems like you are not going to be able to handle all those functions with just one microchip the microchip is probably the most expensive part of the whole mechanism yeah it is just something to consider absolutely okay well yeah i guess we will cross that bridge in a slightly later stages of development but yeah i know that is a perfectly viable question okay so i am seeing that we are going to just basically focus on this young demographic aim it at them but then in a sense that it is bells and whistles are available for anybody who wants them but basically we will make a sleek simple functioned remote control i think this voice recognition thing is we have got a market for it i do not think there is too many we would more or less be cornering the market on it as well we do not have many yeah i appear to have lost my microphone we do not have many people there is not very many competitors out there that do that so cool right i guess we have touched on most of this the idea of a paging function a touchscreen and faceplates the thing with i see would there not be a we would have to maybe sacrifice the face plates for a touchscreen i am not sure that is sincerely correct i think if you kind of take the example of a mobile phone that kind of has a portion of the device is not interchangeable whereas the surrounding questions are interchangeable ok we could have the casing ok back to the cost the material we have to ask whether we are going to include a certain number of face plates with the package that is something that we are saying we are including 3 or 4 face plates this can drive the cost up and the other questions if we do not include them are we really in a position to evaluate that market we have not done any tests on face plates and whether right see if there is even interest out there okay at the top of my head it sounds kind of like a gimmick that would not really go anywhere yeah because then we would have to who all it is not like with cell phones like where you have a you know a nokia model x and then 10 people make face plates for it yeah it just are a model of remote control well and the publicity of a face plate on a phone is you have it out and around it is sort of emblematic whereas you are just sitting at home so unless somebody comes over to watch tv yeah well hopefully some people have you coming over to hang out of trust and most people have their televisions in the living room all right well we can we can discuss that one further when we think about whether when we do costs and so forth true plastic is dead cheap and if we are making the whole thing out of plastic anyway yeah we will cross that bridge later but yeah we will have to evaluate what is most important i think we have had a bit of discussion already on these things do you do any other questions comments that came up in these presentations well have we confirmed that we are going to go ahead with a touchscreen yeah yeah okay yeah i think that would be best based on what you guys have all said to me let us go for a plastic case because that is easy on the cost try to look for some kind of high quality recycled plastic as you recommended that is a great idea with a touchscreen for the basic functions and we will yeah provisionally let us go for a touchscreen one with several submenus for possible extra stuff that one basically put the channel and the on and off switch on the touchscreen do we have wait a minute it occurs to me that if we have a touchscreen people are going to have to recharge their remote controls yet at the same time that might help for this whole complaint of it being lost because it would have a docking base then again that costs as well those new lifting batteries the last 20 years even with the touchscreen do they those new ones can we afford to include one of those and will somebody buy it if we do not i do not think yeah i can not see anybody buying a remote control that we have to plug in so we would have to see some kind of new battery technology okay so let us go with a touchscreen with some kind of with some cutting edge battery technology for 12 year olds yeah well hey you know it is worth looking into if not we can always default to just doing a well presented plastic simple you know well yeah i mean you can put the i do not know i mean i suppose we could put the basics on the center easiest you know you know people know the channel and volume function make them large and easy to get at and then the other the other bits and bobs you know go through menu we will do the esthetics okay so look for the test screen and the battery focus on presentation with this voice recognition option as well just for the simple functions the on off the on off channels volume and a small paging function even if you can not do voice recognition for the paging you know just some kind of simple button that is just i guess another infrared signal to the remote control and well to admit some kind of paging just a peep right so any comments thoughts before we break into going to the next round of individual work on this since we are doing touch screen do we want to look into the possibility of people being able to input different types of skins for the actual interface part of it and things like that or is it just going to be one touchscreen for everybody interesting what would be on that touch screen because you said earlier that we have to think about company colors and logo or something a motto i can not remember exactly what you said we put fashion into electronics yeah it is my understanding that if you were going to do a skin you would need to have some way for people to download or import skins into the remote control yeah i think perhaps it is too much too much good idea but yeah i think that that one might just be out of the range for this particular a pda would it makes a lot of sense for a pda because you are going to be using it to connect up to things anyway but i do not know what do you guys think i think we just need to come up with a nice black and red interface on the touchscreen yeah i would be okay i am in agreement with that i am wondering how we are going to get we put bash into electronic well but if we are going to use a touchscreen where it is going to come on like on your cell phone it will have your carrier provider name come up 1st while it is loading and then it goes away perhaps it can be like a temporary comes on every time you turn it on and then that is it because it is a bit much to have it like engraved on the back or stuff true i am hoping for subliminal maybe half a millisecond as it turns yeah yeah no it seems like it would suffice to just have the rr on there yeah you would think but but apparently not people are going to want their remote to boot up and to see flashing things come on i just want it to be on and ready to go well fair enough and yeah that would help the battery life too and if the remote they do have to press a button for the remote to turn on then again who wants to turn on a remote control well all you have to do is touch the screen and it automatically 0 it will wake up okay i will go into a back of a dorm remote okay all right yeah i like that i like the idea of putting the logo in the boot up screen nice     cool so any last things before you break all right fair enough sounds good i am going to save the copy of this in case you guys need reminders i am going to save a copy of this and the minutes that i will do in a 2nd and put them in the shared folder for a later reference okay put my files in the shared folder brilliant that is fab guys cool