okay welcome to our detailed design meeting i am pretty excited let us start it is approximately 1540 or something like that okay the agenda we are going to do an opening and then i will talk about the minutes from the last meeting what we d discussed then we will have the prototype presentation and a look at the evaluation criteria we will look at the finances and finally a do a production evaluation and close so starting off with the last the last 10 i do not have it here but we talked about energy we are going to use a kinetic battery we want to use a simple chip because we are not going to need a a shuffle we are going to need a scroll we are choosing a latex case w in fruity colors that is curved and we are using push buttons with a supplement of an on screen menu and it sounded like we had set like 8 or 9 buttons including 5 pre set channels okay let us do the look and feel design presentation 1st right do you want to start right well we made 3 different prototypes and i guess we will start with with this one we have our colors not are not fixed but this is the general shape it is you hold it sort of either like like this in your left hand or you switch it over and it is easily adaptable to either hand you can push the buttons with your thumb like a mobile phone or you can push them with your index finger of your other hand or even i mean there is a whole variety you can hold it like this and press it with your same index finger we have the on off button at the tip very visible very big we have our up and down buttons which are also going to be our channel selectors and we have our little menu button here if you push if you are just pushing these normally they are the menu buttons if the volume buttons rather if you press select once they become channel changing buttons if we press select 3 times the menu with the other features and pro possibly also with your t v channel choices shows up and you have your 5 presets down here if people want to grab hold of that see how it feels in your hand that is our number one prototype do you want to present the potato or shall i present the martian like a little lightning in it okay the little lightning bolt in it very cute what we call that one the rhombus the rhombus i could the v the rhombus rhombus that is the rhombus yep this one is known as the potato it is it is a how can i present it it is an ergonomic shape so it it fits in your hand nicely it is designed to be used either in your left hand or or in your right hand i have gone here just for just for 4 buttons on this one the 2 blue buttons here are for adjusting the volume so you have got volume up and volume down on the other side here the red ones are for changing channels channel up and channel down and that is moves between your favorite channels that you have selected this middle button here brings up the on screen menu and when you are working in the on screen menu you use the other 4 buttons to navigate around the menu system and the middle button to select and that is basically it that is the potato on off that would be one of your channels basically so like channel 0 would be t to switch switch the machine off yeah okay yeah we turn it off could the middle button of the on screen menu function as a power button not really it would make it hard to turn the machine off to turn your t v off if you pressed and held it maybe yeah yeah that that would be one way of doing it yeah if you like held it down that would be on off yeah that would work yeah on off that is a possibility yeah okay and then finally we have the martian or the pear either way it is a bit different just a little bit more of a creative feel you have the on off toggle stem on the top we have the 5 preset seeds and then you have on the sides to make it a little bit more 3 dimensional you have your channel changing volume changing buttons and your menu button right here in the middle so that is for your consideration as well plus it is an interesting talking point to have standing up let us pass we figured it could stand up like this on your table if you wanted it to if i made the bot the bottom flat huh sorry what is the yellow one in the middle i forgot the menu select button very interesting i think that one is my favorite so that is so that is our 3 prototypes basically in terms of making decisions what we would need to do is 1st of all decide on a form which of the 3 different shapes we want then decide what kind of button layout we want how many buttons and then to choose what colors we want to make the buttons and if we want to put any text on the device like label on the buttons or put a brand name or or a logo on it or whatever we were we were thinking that normally we would go for fruity colors but maybe we are also thinking that your sort of middle aged man for an example customer might not want a fruity colored remote so m maybe we would have one version that is a bit toned down maybe with with less contrasts on it kay yeah something still a little bright to make it hard to lose but would yeah but we do not want it to look like a kids toy yeah now that was one thing that we brought up over email i do not know if you picked up your email but the f the feature that we considered for it not getting lost yeah right well we were we were talking about that a little bit when we got that email and we think that each of these are so distinctive that it it is not just like another piece of technology around your house it is going to be somewhere that it can be seen so we are we are not thinking that it is going to be as critical to have the loss but if it is like under covers or like in a couch you still can not see it it is really would it be very difficult to just have an external device that like i dunno you tape to your to your t v that when you press it you ha a little light beep goes off do you think that would be conceptually possible i think it would be difficult technologically i think because if your if your remote is lost it is probably under the settee and in that case you can not you can not send an infrared sing signal to it to find it s so it is i am not quite sure how it would work and then i wonder if it is if it is more just a gimmick then anything else that is true kay yeah i mean ho how many times do you really seriously lose your remote control and would would a device like that actually help you to find it there might be something that you can do in the circuit board and the chip to make it make a noise or something but it would take a lot more development than we have this afternoon okay that is a fair evaluation getting lost we so we do we have decided not to worry about that for now okay cause well the designs are very bright so you are right they are going to stick out but so d do people have a preference as far as feel and functionality i feel like this is simil or it is sort of what already exists so if we are trying to think of something sort of like new and fun even though this is like what you are init i am initially drawn to just cause it is like comfortable and like not different i sort of like this one like i i do not know why it just it is like small but still sort of like cute looking i dunno but i also like the b the side buttons on that one like i think that is kind of neat but i dunno how much any of this has to do with the fashionable sort of cool looking thing that we also need to focus on could we maybe have like an extra button on the top for on off so then w we would not have to have like a dual function yeah that is good that is good ah there we go yeah it is possible yeah yeah here stick it on put an extra the button on sure why do not we do a product evaluation using your criteria if you have developed some well do we w like i think we are supposed to have one that we do it for 0 okay okay that was i was a little vague on what exactly i am supposed to do but let me i have to like write something on the whiteboard so so where okay do you need this or just write on the white board no i actually do not have like a powerpointy thing cause i think it would be redundant okay right okay i dunno it is kind of like like a joystick kind of thing you know kinda push it ooh cool hey kay maybe a little smaller than that no i kinda like it that is hard to miss it makes look more fruity as well 0 it does it is kind of like it is like a deformed foot i dunno there it could have a stem like that cause i do l kind of like the stem like yeah yeah it almost helps you ge keep a grip too cause it goes in between fingers yeah yeah interesting i like this one okay is that where people are leaning then the potato variety of colors are nice i like the idea of the i mean that is really gotten the simplicity of the buttons down that one i think i am leaning towards the potato i am worried about like using a menu in that like i withing menus there are submenus and so how do you get back to the main menu yeah well that on the ipod for example you just every time you want to go back you hit the menu button again and it brings you back one level but that has a menu button separate from a select button whereas if this one is both the menu and the select button yeah good point this is it is the up and down buttons are used for scrolling up and down for a list of choices okay you find the choice that you want and you press you press the right button could these be used for going to submenus or yeah yeah so they are used for going into and out of your submenus yeah maybe yeah maybe it can be one of those if you press down and hold okay for 2 seconds then it brings you back one level or something okay well as long as we have that in mind as we are designing it still kay okay so which one are we sort of roughly looking at to address whether or not it meets our s necessities the yellowy one is that the potato are we leaning towards the potato potato i think so okay well we can obviously change it after we go through each different one okay so basically what we need to do is some of the things that we have talked about before we need to make sure that that remote actually does conform to the things that we said it was going to okay so what we sort of want to do is that we each need to separately rank each of the following things and then i will tabulate an average just to make sure that it does meet that okay so we will just go through them one at a time and we will just go around and each of you can tell me on a scale of one to 7 with one being really extremely true and 7 being not true at all or false if the remote that we have created conforms to the following criteria so we can do this 11st 1st we want to know if it meets the fancy look and feel objective so like in my opinion the for now at least the yellow one is probably somewhere in the middle so i am going to say it is like a 3 that is just my opinion yeah what does each of you i i kind of think it is it is unique enough that i would give it a one or a 2 okay well give it a number sorry okay i will give it a one i dunno if it is it is creative i dunno if fancy is the word i would use i dunno if any of them are fancy in i would say 2 because c unique okay and 2 awesome i will go for 2 alright and same sort of scale for functionality is it functional i think it is extremely functional i am going to give it a one yeah one one i think it is it is functional it is also pretty basic so i will give it a 2 okay functional i think it will get everything done i think it might be a little confusing at 1st i do not know if that is going to be a later one okay well there is some other ones i will address that yeah okay then i am going to give it a 2 awesome okay we want to know next if it is technologically innovative did you give a functional yeah she said it was one okay is it technologically innovative not really i mean not so much cause we we do not have the l c d screen we do not have fancy chip other than what it looks like i dunno if it is really well the kinetic battery in the battery that is it i kinetic battery is a big one so how many people would notice that though but it but we know it is there but they will notice it after like a year they will be like hey i have never changed the battery and if it is made of like latex that whole idea that is pretty cool i will give it a 3 just the material cause it we could have picked a lot of features that would have made it really yeah i i would say that it is yeah like fancy versus creative it is it is different but does that equal innovative i dunno i will give it a 3 alright everyone else i would say it is technologically it is not it is not unique i mean it is it is just it is just pushbuttons so i i would give it a 4 think i am going to go with the 4 as well kay i really like that kinetic battery though next is it easy to use just so you know easy to learn will be separate so do not overlap them kay okay i think it is really easy to use i will give it a 2 i will give it a one pretty hard to mess up i will say one let us say 2 alright we next want to see if it has a spongy quality and if indeed it is made of latex or rubber i it is spongy all the way give it a one yeah yeah i wonder if it bounces when you drop it ooh that you could not it would be harder to break harder to lose yeah cause there would be less impact maybe iain what do you give it yeah i would i would give it a one alright and the next is does it integrate some notion of fruits and vegetables well is it going to be yellow it it might be cause that is our corporate color is not it that is right yeah corporate color yeah we did not keep that in well if we i know it would make it a little less c a little more confusing we might want to keep it yellow but if we had all the buttons in black and a design in and the outside in yellow that would be our corporate one and we could also have alternative colors one a more conservative 11 that is more fruity yeah but if you had like a silvery kind of white or something yeah yeah and can we have like an r r inscribed on the bottom or something if we had a yellow sure okay 0 yeah yeah alright so i think it it is fruity so fruity so it was inspired by the potato so i think it is pretty fruity yeah i think i it is kind of mangoey too 0 mango that that yeah mangoey is better yeah i okay i am giving it a one the mango put me over yes i like mangoes that is a much more trendy than a potato one what are what is everyone is numbers 2 one alright and does the design match the appropriate behavior remember earlier we discussed that people do not use a lot of buttons that they use the channel flipping and the volume the most i think we really took that into account a lot so i am going to give it a one yeah me too one did you say one rose yes okay also we talked earlier about r s i and wanting to prevent any sort of like carpal tunnely kind of thing do we think that the latex sort of grip appropriately takes that into account i think i will give it a 2 cause i almost feel like no matter what you do something is going to happen it is going to be hard yeah yeah yeah and if it is repetitive movement it is going to be only 4 buttons that you are constantly pushing but worth the risk i think i like how it fits in the hand though so i i would go with a 2 yeah i will i will say 2 as well because older people that are not used to like texting with the thumb might find it a bit at 1st but kay yeah i will i will say 2 alright awesome and the ease of learning it i know you were saying that you are a little bit nervous about that i dunno it sort of reminds me of the ipod i just got mine i still have not read the instruction book and i am doing okay so and i am not good at learning technology so i will give it a 2 the menu system and the the fact that multiple buttons are used for different things might be a bit confusing but i think if it is one it is one of those things that it might take you 5 minutes to figure out but you will have it afterwards so i would i think i would give it a 2 i guess i think it it is probably a little harder then most remotes to learn because you have to you have to use the menu system and you have to tell it what your favorite channels are and that could take a bit of learning at 1st 0 good point but once you have yeah once you would learned how to use it i think it is a lot easier so i would i would give it a 4 okay i think i would give it a 4 too it is a pretty high learning curve it will be easy once you have done it but yeah alright also earlier we had something about losing it and so now we are not addressing that at all so we we i think we can kind of say we addressed it with color but okay so in terms of not losing it do you think that on a scale of one to 7 how easy or hard is it to lose i am going to i am going to give it a 4 cause i think that you can still if it is in between somewhere where you can not see it you are kind of not going to find it but anywhere else it is going to stand out yeah i would say i would give it a 3 i guess it depends on how tidy you are normally i would give it a 4 i will give it a 5 cause i it would be easy to lose something like that yeah small too alright we also said simplicity how w how well does it address just being simple simple to use or simple in design do you know i think overall cause we had said before our 2 main things were simplicity and fashion so those are the next 2 things we are going to look at separate from fancy like that sort of thing right it like wants to be simple but it is not like totally totally simple so i am going to give it a 2 i am give it a 3 i guess i will give it a 2 3 alright and fashionable it is totally fashionable it is hot i mean it is a mango come on i would give it a one mango i mean how fashionable can you make a remote i think it is bringing technology and fashion together real really well i dunno i do not think it is quite as fashionable as my robot remote i do like the little martian one or alien or whatever he was yeah the toggle on off switch it is really appealing number 2 3 one and does it meet our like demographic need sort of for international appeal that whole thing just that it would se serve our audience i do not see why not i think as long if we offer in a in at least 3 different color arrangements yeah that is good yeah so i will give it a a 2 yeah i will say 2 alright did anyone have any other features that they think were important that we did not talk about well we did not we did not address the fact that it does need to b have a corporate logo so let us let us make sure we keep that in mind that we ha that one of our colors concepts is corporate and has an r r on it shall we well i think all of them should have an r r all of them should have r r yeah and so we are going to do that so it will address it fine kay okay that is me lovely okay now we are going to look at finances i have an excel sheet that we are actually going to calculate the cost so let me exit out of this 1st okay whoa 0 my i know let me one more space going to zoom in real quick okay hand dynamo we are using kinetic battery right we are n using kinetic yeah and we are having one per yeah one okay electronics single simple simple rather simple simple kay the case double curved guess it is double curved it is pretty curvy yeah it is very curvy so okay yeah i never did get a picture of those so i do not really know our case material supplements oops we just skipped by them well do not we need plastic and no we we the plastic is the plastic for the inside is assumed provided okay the supplement is the wood 0 i guess it was rubber rather than latex i mean the rubber it was rubber and special color right yeah okay do we have more than one special color yeah we are using we are going to need at least 2 special colors well special colors is not it i do not know what the se the basic color is though per i dunno where it yeah well but we know that we are having at least 3 colors so so let us y say 3 well are we talking about on each color combination or are we you know we will like we will have yellow and black is that 2 special colors yeah i dunno or or is white and black then 2 more or that i thi i thought that would be under yours i guess it is 333 we will just say 3 right alright maybe the r r will be in color as well so yeah interface we are doing push buttons yeah and how many buttons do we have we have 6 we have got 5 0 no 5 6 with the power 06 6 yeah anything else no 0 we will do we wa are the buttons in special color special f i did not get information on 0 wait 0 buttons 0 so so the case material will just have one color right but then the buttons will be in special colors well does it but if we are making multiple varieties of this is where i am getting confused yeah we are saying per unit per unit okay okay yeah per unit okay so each unit will only have one color on their but the case is alright and each button s could have up to thr i mean the buttons could ea could be up to 3 colors cause that how it is designed there yeah yeah i like it like that yeah okay so special form they are all kind of just push button right no i think they are fine yeah special material material we want them rubber as well probably yeah 0 do i have to do it per button do i no i do not think so i think they are if they are all going to be rubber then it that is what it matters okay yeah cause it would not make sense otherwise cause for the whole mat case material it is only one yeah yeah yeah it is i mean it is 2 to make it rubber okay 0 wait so maybe 137 00 yeah what can we reduce okay let us have our buttons all be one color i kind of like the buttons let us see what that would do it is only going to bring us down to 133 anyway alright okay are we sure this is double curved maybe it is single curved we have no idea we have no idea i dunno i did not get any pictures it is single curved it is single curved why not well it is not the yeah okay it is the kinetic battery that is kind of expensive but we have a simple chip single curve case material is rubber and it is a special color but that is important yeah that is important 6 buttons we have to have 6 buttons how did it get more expensive what did you just change what it was it was 13 and now it is 15 no okay maybe not i do not know what just happened now it is 12 we what was our target price again 125 125 hey hey 125 so we are just just about there so we are okay i think we are all set then yeah ish okay we are all set alright save i saved that to our our big shared folder so you know okay back to agenda are the are the costs under €1250 yes yes yeah they are yeah let us move on to the project evaluation project process satisfaction with for example the room for creativity leadership teamwork the means any new ideas found so i guess what we are going to talk about here is just evaluating how we created this project the information we got on the news how we used it if we were able to you know use our creativity with the information how how well i guess i led it the how well we worked together as a team the digital pens the whiteboard well okay i felt very creative i enjoyed making the prototypes i think we have been successful in that we have achieved almost all of the design goals that we have set and we have come up with a finished project and we just about got cost yeah i think we could have done even better with a little bit more information like what is a single curved case how many colors what do colors count things but given given what we had i think that we did we did really well i think we worked together pretty well yeah yeah i mean if i would had more market research on the fruits and vegetables maybe we could have taken that into account yeah but the fruits and vegetables they really my creativity so i know i really did the the whole mango idea was great do you think we could no i mean i thought the pen was a little distracting for me personally like its heaviness and like just being so conscious of like turning the pages i dunno that was a bit of a distraction yeah that was the last one like i chose not to do a powerpoint cause i did not think it made sense to so i liked that i had the option to do that and just to take my own notes and that whole sort of thing yeah i think we all made very significant contributions i do not think anybody dominated it which i thought was really good like each of us was able to like each of you had your information and i i tried to facilitate it without like taking over yeah i like our little finished products can we market this as the mango remote they are funny really cute i kind of want one should we have that somewhere on the packaging i have a little r r i am trying to think of a good pun that i could add there i know let us think of it like a little jingle i like the r r that is going to be etched in yes hopefully not with just my fingernail at some point but it is quite a useful little gadget all thanks to iain for the design of that one okay new ideas found what did we find for new ideas people should really base their remotes on fruits and vegetables definitely yeah or or at least be c p creative enough to think of toggle switches i i am really into the idea of kinetic batteries now after reading about them etcetera 0 i am so excited yeah i did not even know they existed that was i i knew you can get watches that had them like really quite expensive watches that just never need a battery cause you are always moving your wrist but in other things i think it would be really good i thi yeah that is awesome okay closing are the costs within the budget is the project evaluated yes now there is the final questionnaire and meeting summary so this is the great product kids i think we have created something really interesting and that we have a market for it especially if we can produce it at 123 which we hope yeah yeah make sure in your questionnaire to put down criticisms of both the process and the the final results and yeah real reaction i do like the martian remote if we could choose more than one that would be my 2nd choice 0 that would definitely be my 2nd choice although the tog toggle i am afraid i would that is cool let us all let us all go for the yellow i would break it it is cool i would break it it started because i wanted to have it as saint as a stem and then alright so i think i would break it break the stem off 0 that is funny is it started as a pear but then it started looking more and more like a martian when i put the 0 yeah it is kind of a penguin kind of looks like a penguin like with no eye take me to your leader i like that it stands up wow maybe i should market it to some remote control company now so are are poor little thing that was bound to happen 0 sad kay congratulations anything else to say nothing will come up until after our meeting is supposed to be over its all timed alright 0 anybody have i got more master classes anybody else want to like take a master is class 0 it is really funny that you got spam in your work emails yeah but check it out so like there are all these like links they do not go anywhere but all that you need to keep in mind your knowledge management just want to make sure you do no the 1st one that you sent like i did not realize that it was a joke and i was like why did she send this to us 0 it is very it is very work relevant cause people send spam a lot it is yes definitely i am very sad that i did not get any links to the corporate website let us see what did i get through the corporate website 0 here you can you can view it is just inspiration about circuit boards you can just see what is up wow yeah it is it is really deep hold on takes a little while to get excited to load that the excel thing is pretty cool yes yeah that is pretty neat here like basically it is like inspiration basically i am going to give you 2 sentences on fashion and i love excel it is one of my favorite programs that kind of thing see you did not miss out that much i see yeah my inspiration from from last time is the in interior of a remote control being taken apart bit by bit talking about circuit boards spongy i learned a lot actually 0 wow i could probably take apart a remote control now if i really needed to this one was cooler i got a whole table and everything now i have all about circuits and chips and transponders and i wrote it all down because i thought it would be relevant like all the different parts of the inside of a remote control but then they are like you do not actually need this you just need to talk about the case that is like mine it was like would you prefer an l c d screen or a multifunction remote control and then it did not have like any kind of table like awesome i am glad they asked that question and did not report the result it is really interesting though i i thought it was a little tricky having to hand around this thing yeah yeah yeah we had a lot of the otherwise the technology today was kinda cool i think yeah that was really neat how i got emails and we did not we did not use the whiteboard that much no no although i do not see how we could have very l at least for me i i yeah if i would gotten pictures of the different parts of the case the different looks of the case i would have probably drawn them up but cause we were not like voting on anything and i think usually like whiteboards are good you know like crossing out ideas or like if we had had like a brainstorming period yeah we could have put our brainstorming stuff up there rather than just talking about it but with only 4 people it does not really make sense but i thought we were good orally get crazy i think if you had a larger group and with and with the powerpoint that we can all look at like you can do all those things pretty much on powerpoint as that is not as necessary to have yeah yeah and these might have made us more willing to like take notes than to like write up them here cause we all needed them separately kind of on the whiteboards in this room because we are all going to be working in different places yeah we if we were all going to stay in here all the time then having the notes up on the whiteboard would have been alright but everyone needs their own like specific notes i guess now when you were creating your prototypes here did you work together or did you like do separate projects we we worked together but we were making like we sort of made different shapes and then discussed how the how the buttons might work yeah and how we could like improve on the on the design yeah so it was a bit of both really we just kind of started out by each taking a color of clay and just fooling around with it and i came up with that rhombus shape and he came up with the sort of potatoey mangoey shape and then just went from there really cool it was fun so well done with the management i felt well managed 0 thanks i think we did well in 1st of all giving our meetings the time and 2nd we actually it is kinda fun we we did a good job of making firm decisions at the ends of the meetings sorry and i that happened to me all the time though i know what happens sometimes is that you tend to sort of have meetings and then people sorta drift away without anything actually really being decided but i think here we got we got clear and and decisive decisive points at the end of the meetings so that we we knew where to go on from there yeah i was quite worried at the end of the last meeting that we were not getting we did not really have enough information to make firm decisions but we were able to do it regardless so i am not usually a very decisive person so it helped to have people say this needs to be done in 5 minutes this is what we will do yeah i found that we did we could have used another 5 or 10 minutes sometimes in the meetings yeah for some of the meetings yeah especially last time yeah yeah i think the last time we had a lot of information but at the same time not quite enough yeah yeah you know what i mean like we we could not answer every single question yeah yeah right but and i i felt the 1st 2 meetings that i was coming in with no information and not sort of made me really like ooh i do not know throwing together powerpoint out of no no information and then last time it was like the opposite i had so much information and so much to talk about it was interesting what came out like later like as i was doing the when i was doing the breakdown on the agenda that they gave me yeah that more points came out from your presentation even i am a little i am a little disappointed that we did not do a something for losing the remote because that was kind of a big point yeah that was something like in order to talk about that we would have had to have actual knowledge about circuit boards and things like about yeah well the problem was even when we just were creating from the excel file yeah there was not like a option to select to somehow have it included so there was no we could be like yeah it has it included yeah i think we were there was no way for us to have considered the re yeah written down that it was really there yeah i think we were just getting overenthusiastic with the task well it is interesting that they i think we really got into it i mean i got into it as the day went on and i got really like ooh i am designing a remote control i dunno if that is just me but yeah it was interesting though that they put that 50% of people say they have frustration with losing their remote and yet they did not provide us with information to we were not provided with information to discuss that yeah yeah i know that like people people have like things they can put on their keys that you press it and it will beep yeah yeah but i but i am sure that would require some kind of technology that i just do not know what it is but i think there are some of those like infomercial remotes that have things so you will not lose them i dunno i mean we were talking about it and like i in my household at least there is only about 2 places that the remote is ever cause there is only one t v and there is only like 3 chairs that is like saying you are never going to lose your keys and i always do anyway you will lose em in your pocket like you just will forget that or you like put it down somewhere that like made sense and then not remember there is always ways to lose things yeah it d yeah it depends on how organized you are personally but yeah or like i guess what the setup of the house is too but i mean i am notorious for losing my keys i just i guess i have just never lost the remote i put my keys in the refrigerator the other night and could not find them cause i was putting groceries away that is funny 0 you you are taking stuff from a bag and putting them in the refrigerator and then go back to my room can not get in can not get in look all around the kitchen definitely in the vegetable drawer that is funny so i always do that leaving it in my coat and then like using a different coat yep but i guess it is cause we do not carry remotes around that much yeah can not really take it into the other room yeah maybe with our little robot one we could have had him have a robot alien pear whatever he is have a little voice like i am located 0 a g p s system internal g p s 0 man here you go we should make one that walks by itself although if it is sitting still for too long yes i that really could get up and walk away or or like some crazy like electro magnet that you push it and it will go zoom to the t v and stick there or little or just just a wheel you know just if you like you would have a remote for your remote that will yeah well but if you could attach them to the t v then you can zoom yeah all kinds of possibilities okay sorry i am just trying to update my minutes i decided to you know how i sent you the email saying that powerpoint minutes will be complimentary rather than like repeating them yeah just going to make i am making full minutes so that it will include all of the agenda and all that 0 wow cause that seems a little more useful cause you have had like the most typing and organizing to do but i did not have like information to sloth through either so yeah i guess how much of your powerpoint was already done for you every meeting most of it i added slides i added a couple slides each time but that was about it 0 okay yeah i did not even think about adding slides cause i would just get slides with titles on them and fill them all in w did not even think about adding more well the thing was they would provide y an agenda with s like several points but it would not have a slide for each point ah yeah and that is the only way i remember that i need to go other that point i know personally when i do powerpoint that is what i do and so i had it once even if it was just like the title of it like the 3 presentations and i would do your 3 right you have you have to have the slogan on it or can it just be like the slogan on it no no definitely not no no no okay good we cause i was like it could go around the outside no i do not think we need to i think the r and r especially if the yellow and black one i think we just need the the r r yeah is it yellow and blue or yellow and blue lemme go to the web page yeah i was just kinda going by the web page cause they did not give me any clear like yellow gray or 0 i guess it is black gray gray is better than black does not look so bumblebeeish i do not really like yellow in general hey now i understand the random like newsclippings but it finish meeting now was not it interesting that i thought it was interesting that our market marketing expert did not agree with the marketing yes the marketing choices you know like that was a bit of a conflict i will i just feel like if you are really doing like a a really big market evaluation you would not just have like one set of source it is kind of an they were so not backed up it would just be a sentence like we did a survey this is what people said yeah s i dunno people are stupid i guess it i it sort of a gray is not it yellow and gray but then the slogan is in blue well we got some gray and we got some blue buttons we are good yeah well we do not have the right color clay anyway maybe like i do not know that could always be well we are not sadly going to actually be producing this so 0 if they ever come out with potato potato mango shaped remotes i am going to have to i am claiming it intellectual property yeah i can not believe a whole day is gone i know i do not feel like it has been that long get sucked in i have not gotten questionnaire 8 yet
i am okay welcome to our detailed design meeting i am pretty excited let us start it is approximately 1540 or something like that okay the agenda we are going to do an opening and then i will talk about the minutes from the last meeting what we discussed then we will have the prototype presentation and look at the evaluation criteria we will look at the finances and finally do a production evaluation and close so starting off with the last 10 i do not have it here but we talked about energy we are going to use a kinetic battery we want to use a simple chip because we are not going to need a shuffle not going to need a scroll we are choosing a latex case case in fruity colors that is curved and we are using push buttons with a supplement of an on screen menu it sounded like we had set 8 or 9 buttons including 5 preset channels okay let us do the look and feel design presentation 1st right well we made 3 different prototypes and i guess we will start with this one we have our colors are not fixed but this is the general shape you hold it sort of either like this in your left hand or you switch it over and it is easily adaptable to either hand you can push the buttons with your thumb like a mobile phone or you can push them with your index finger of your other hand or even i mean there is a whole variety you can hold it like this and press it with your same index finger we have the on off button at the tip very visible very visible very very and there is a whole variety very visible very big we have our up and down buttons which are also going to be our channel selectors and we have our little menu button here if you push if you are just pushing these normally they are the menu buttons the volume buttons if you press select once they become channel changing buttons you press select 3 times the menu with the other features and possibly also with your tv channel choices shows up and you have your 5 presets down here if people want to grab hold of that see how it feels in your hand that is our number one prototype do you want to present the potato or shall i present the martian there is a little lightning bolt in it very cute the rhombus the rhombus the rhombus this one is known as the potato it is a it is an ergonomic shape so it fits in your hands in your hands nicely designs to be used either in your left hand or in your right hand i have gone here just for 4 buttons on this one the 2 blue buttons here are for adjusting the volume we have got volume up and volume down on the other side here the red ones are for changing channels channel up and channel down and now this moves between your favorite channels that you have selected that you have selected this middle button here brings up the on screen menu and when you are working in the on screen menu you use the other 4 buttons to navigate around the menu system and the middle button to select and that is basically it on off that would be one of your channels basically okay so it turns off could the middle button of your channel could the middle button the on screen menu function of the power button not really it would make it hard to turn off if you press and held it maybe yeah it could be on off yeah that would be on off possibility yeah okay and then finally we have the martian or the pair either way it is a bit different just a little bit more of a creative feel you have the on off you have the on off toggle stem on the top we have the 5 preset seeds and then you have on the sides to make it a little bit more 3 dimensionally you have your channel changing volume changing buttons and your menu button right here in the middle so that is for your consideration as well plus it is an interesting talking point to have standing up we figured it could stand up like this on your table if you wanted it to if i made the bottom sorry what is the other one in the middle i forgot the menu select button very interesting that was my favorite so that is our 3 prototypes basically in terms of making to see what we need to do is 1st of all decide on a form which are the 3 different shapes we want then we start what kind of button there what we want how many buttons and then we are going to choose what colors we want to make the ones maybe once in this time or if you want to put any text on the device like maybe you like to use it for a name or we were thinking that normally we would go for fruity colors but maybe we are also thinking that you are sort of middle aged man for an example customer might not want a pretty colored remote so maybe we would have one version that is a bit toned down maybe with with less contrast on it there is something still a little bright to make it hard to lose but but we do not want to be able to be able to be yes now that was one thing that we brought up over email i do not know if you picked up your email but the feature that we considered for not getting lost right well we were talking about that a little bit when we got that email and we think that each of these are so distinctive that it is not just like another piece of technology around your house it is going to be somewhere that it can be seen so we are not thinking that it is going to be as critical to have the laws or like in a couch you see it would it be very difficult to just have an external device that like i do not know you tape to your tv that when you press it a little like beep goes off do you think that would be conceptually possible i think it would be difficult for analogically because if you are if you are remote lost it is probably under the recipe under the city and in that case not sending in so it is i am not quite sure that is true yeah okay i wonder if it is more just a gimmick than anything is i mean how many times people would be doing like to go with a device like that actually there might be something that you can do in the circuit board in the chip to make it make a noise or something but it would take a lot more development then we have this after okay that is a fair evaluation getting lost we have decided not to worry about that for now okay because well the designs are very bright so you are right they are going to stick out so do people have a preference as far as feel and functionality i feel like this is similar to sort of what already exists so if we are trying to think of something sort of like new and fun even though this is like what you are initially i am initially drawn to just because it is like comfortable and like not different i sort of like this one like i do not know why it just it is like small but still sort of like cute looking i do not know but i also like the side buttons on that one like i think that is kind of neat but i do not know how much any of this has to do with the fashionable sort of cool looking thing that we also need to focus on could we maybe have like an extra button on the top for on off so then we would have to have a dual function there we go that is good here stick it on huh sure why do not we do a product evaluation using your criteria well to be like i think we are supposed to have one that we do it for 0 okay okay that was a little vague on what exactly i am supposed to do but let me i have to like write something on the whiteboard so do you need this or just write on the right no i i actually do not have like a powerpointy thing okay because i think it would be redundant okay i do not know it is kind of like a joystick kind of thing okay okay okay okay maybe a little smaller than that no i kind of like it that is hard to miss it makes it look more fancy it does it is kind of like it is like it is like 0 god there it could have a stem like that because i do kind of like the stem yeah it almost helps you keep a grip too because it goes in between fingers interesting i like this one okay is that where people are reading them the potato i like the idea of the i mean that is really gotten the simplicity of the buttons down that one i am worried about using a menu in that like within menus there are submenus and so how do you get back to the main menu well on the ipod every time you want to go back you hit the menu button that has a menu button separate from a select button whereas if this one is both the menu and the select button find the choice that you want to press you press the bytes button could these be used for going to submenus maybe it could be one of those if you press down and hold for 2 seconds then it brings you back one level or something okay well as long as we have that in mind as we are designing it still okay so which one are we sort of roughly looking at to address whether or not it meets our necessities the yellowy one is that potato are we leaning towards the potato i think so okay well we can obviously change it after we go through these different ones so basically what we need to do is some of the things that we have talked about before we need to make sure that that remote actually does conform to the things that we said it was going to so what we sort of want to do is we each need to separately rank each of the following things and then all tabulate an average just to make sure that it does not meet that so we will just go through them one at a time and we will just go around and each of you can tell me on a scale of one to 7 with one being really extremely true and 7 being not true at all or false if the remote that we have created conforms to the following criteria so we can do this 11st 1st you want to know if it meets the fancy look and feel objective so like in my opinion for now at least the yellow one is probably somewhere in the middle so i am going to say it is like a 3 that is just my opinion yeah what is each of you i kind of think it is unique enough that i would give it a one or 2 okay well give it a number okay i will give it a one i do not know if it is creative i do not know if fancy is the word would use i do not know if any of them are fancy and i would say 2 because unique 2 awesome all right and same sort of scale for functionality is it functional i think it is extremely functional i am going to give it a 111 i think it is functional it is also that you base it so i will give it too okay i think it will get everything done i think it might be a little confusing at 1st okay well there is some other ones that will address that yeah okay then i am going to give it a 2 awesome okay we want to know next if it is technologically innovative did you give a functional yeah she said this one okay is it technologically innovative  not really i mean not so much because we do not have the lcd screen we do not have fancy chip other than what it looks like i do not know if it is well the kinetic battery the kinetic battery is a big one how many people would notice that though but we know it is there they will be like hey i have never changed the battery and if it is made of latex that whole idea that is pretty cool i will give it a 3 because it could have picked a lot of features that would make it really yeah i would say that it is like fancy versus creative it is different but does that equal innovative i do not know i will give it a 3 right you know it is not it is not unique i mean it is just i just push buttons so i give it i think i am going to go with 4 as well okay i really like that connected battery though next is it easy to use just so you know to learn will be separate is it all okay okay overlap them i think it is really easy to use i will give it a 2 i will give it a one pretty hard to mess up i would say 2 all right we next want to see if it has a spongy quality and if indeed it is made of latex or rubber it is spongy all the way give it a one yeah i wonder if it bounces when you drop it ooh then you could it would be harder to break hard to lose because it would be less impact maybe and what do you give it i will give it a one all right and the next is does it integrate some notion of fruits and vegetables well is it going to be yellow it might be because that is our corporate color is not it that is right yeah corporate color we did not keep that in we might want to keep it yellow well if we i know it would make it a little more confusing but if we had all the buttons in black and the design and the outside in yellow that would be our corporate one and then we could also have alternative colors one a more conservative 11 that is more fruity yeah it is more fruity yeah it is more fruity yeah it is more and can we have like an rr inscribed on the bottom or something sure all right so i think it is fruity it was inspired by the potato so i think it is pretty fruity i think it is kind of mangoy too yeah okay i am giving it a one the mango come and put me over that is a much worse what is everyone is numbers one one all right and does the design match the appropriate behavior remember earlier we discussed that people do not use a lot of buttons that they use the channel flipping in the volume the most i think we really took that into account a lot so i am going to give it a one yeah me too do you say one rose yes okay also we talked earlier about rsi and wanting to prevent any sort of carpal tunnel y kind of thing do we think that the latex sort of grip appropriately takes that into account i think i will give it to 2 because i almost feel like no matter what you do something is going to happen and if it is repetitive movement it is going to be only 4 border buttons that you are constantly pushing but i am i am worth the best i like how it fits in the hand though i would go with it too i will say 2 as well because older people that are not used to like texting for the thumb might bend it a bit at 1st all right awesome and the ease of learning it i know you were saying that you were a little bit nervous about that i do not know it sort of reminds me the ipod i just got my i still have not read the instruction book and i am doing okay and i am not good at learning technology so i will give it a 2 the menu system and the fact that multiple buttons are used for different things might be a bit confusing but i think if it is one of those things that it might take you 5 minutes to figure out but you will have it afterwards so i think i would give it a 2 i guess i think it is probably a little harder than most remote to learn because you have to use the vector system and you have to tell it what your favorite panels are 0 good point but once you have learned how to use it i think it would give it a 4 okay i think it would give it a 4 too it is a pretty high learning curve it will be easy once you have done it all right also earlier we had to do it something about losing it and so now we are not addressing that at all so we we i think we can kind of say we addressed it with color okay so in terms of not losing it do you think that on a scale of one to 7 how easy or hard is it to lose i am going to i am going to give it a 4 because i think that you can still if it is in between somewhere where you can not see it you are kind of not going to find it but anywhere else it is going to stand out i would say i would give it a 3 i guess it depends how tidy you are normally or give it a 4 i will give it a 5 small too all right we also said simplicity how well does it address just being simple simple to use or simple in design i think overall because we had said before our 2 main things were simplicity and fashion so those are the next few things we are going to not look are the next few things we are going to look at separate from fancy like that sort of thing it like wants to be simple but it is not like totally totally simple so i am going to give it a 2 well give it a 3 i guess 3 all right and fashionable it is totally fashionable it is hot i mean it is a mango come on i mean how fashionable can you make a remote i think it is bringing technology and fashion together really well i do not know i do not think it is quite as fashionable as my robot remote i do like the little martian or whatever he was yeah the toggle on off switch was really appealing number 2 3 one and does it meet our like demographic need sort of for international appeal that whole thing that whole thing just that it would serve our audience i do not see why not i think as long if we offer it in at least 3 different color arrangements yeah that is good so i will give it a 2 yeah all right does anyone have any other features that they think are important that we did not talk about well we did not address the fact that it does need to have a corporate logo let us make sure we keep that in mind that one of our colored concepts is corporate and has an rr on it well i think all of them should have an rr and so we are going to do that so we will address it fine okay that is me okay now we are going to look at finances i have an excel sheet that we are actually going to calculate the costs so let me 1st okay 0 yeah yeah i know let me get a little more space i am going to zoom in real quick okay hand dynamo we are using kinetic battery right and we are having one per one okay electronics single simple simple rather okay case double curved yeah it is very curvy so okay yeah i did get a picture of those so i do not really know our case material supplements oops we just get to well do not we need plastic and no we the plastic is the plastic for the inside is assumed the supplement is 0 i guess it was rubber rather than the rubber it was rubber and special color right yeah do we have more than one special color yeah we are using we are going to need at least 2 special colors i do not know what the same the basic color is colored yeah well but we know that we are having at least 3 colors so well are we talking about on each color combination or we you know like we will have yellow and black is that 2 special colors yeah i do not know or is white and black than 2 more or i guess it is 3 3 3 all right maybe the rr will be in color as well so yeah interface we are doing push buttons and how many buttons do we have sex 0 no 5 6 with a power anything else no 0 do we will not are the buttons in special colors i did not get information on it 0 buttons 0 so the case material will just have one color right but then the buttons will be in special colors but if we are making multiple varieties of this is where i am getting confused we are saying per unit per unit okay okay so each unit will only have one color all right and each button but the cases could have up to 3 i mean the buttons could be up to 3 colors that is how it is designed there i like it like that okay special form they are all kind of just push button no i think they are fine special material we want them rubber as well probably yeah 0 do i have to do it per button do i no i do not think so i think if they are all going to be rubbed then that is what it matters yeah because what makes sense otherwise because for the whole case material it is only one yeah i mean it is 2 to make it rubber okay wait so maybe 137 0 yeah what can we reduce okay let us have our buttons all be one color i kind of like the button that would do it is only going to bring us down to 133 anyway all right okay are we sure this is double curved maybe it is single we have to no idea we have no idea i do not know i did not get any pictures single curve what well it is not yeah okay it is a kinetic battery that is kind of expensive but we have a simple chip single curve case material is rubber and it is a special color yeah but that is important that is important 6 buttons how did it get more expensive what did you just change what it was 13 and now it is 15 no okay maybe not i do not know what just happened now it is 12 125 hey hey so we are okay we are all set then yeah we are all is okay all right we are all set save i save that to our big shared folder so you know okay back to agenda are the costs under €1250 yes yes yes let us move on to the project evaluation project process satisfaction with for example the room for creativity leadership teamwork the means any new ideas found so i guess what we are going to talk about here is just evaluating how we created this project the information we got and used how we used it if we were able to use our creativity with the information how well i guess i led it how well we worked together as a team the digital pen the whiteboard wow okay i felt very creative i enjoyed making the prototype i think we could have a single cath i think of what we had just about some guess of the good piece i think we could have done even better with a little bit more information like what is a single curve case how many colors what do colors count  but given what we had i think we did really well i think we worked together pretty well yeah i mean if i had more market research research other than fruits and vegetables maybe we could have taken that into account but the fruits and vegetables stimulated by creativity i know i really did the whole mango idea is great no i mean i found that the pen was a little distracting for me personally like it is heaviness and like just being so conscious of turning the pages i do not know that was a bit of a distraction but with the last one like i chose not to do a powerpoint because i did not think it made sense too so i liked that i had the option to do that and just to take my own node that whole sort of thing i think we all made very significant contributions i do not think anybody dominated it which i thought was really good like each of us was able to like each of you had your information and i tried to facilitate it without like taking it over i am like our little finished product they are funny kind of want one can we work at this as the back and go remote should we have that somewhere on the packaging i have a little i am trying to think of a good pun that i could add there but i know let us think of it like a little jingle i like the rr that is going to be etched in yes hopefully not with just my finger now at some point but i am a useful little gadget all thanks to ian for the design of that one hazar okay what did we find new ideas found people should really base their remotes on fruits and vegetables definitely or at least be creative enough to think of toggle switches i et cetera i am really into the idea of kinetic batteries now 0 i am so excited yeah i did not even know they existed i knew you could get watches that had them like really quite expensive watches that just never need a battery because you are always moving your wrist but in other things i think it would be really good yeah that is awesome okay closing at the cost within the budget is the project evaluated then is the final questionnaire and meeting summary so this is a great product kids i think we have created something really interesting and that we have a market for it especially if we can produce it at 123 which we hope make sure in your questionnaire to put down criticisms of both the process and the final results and yeah real reaction i do like the martian remote if we could choose more than one that would be my 2nd choice 0 that would definitely be my 2nd choice although the toggle i am afraid i would i would break it i would break it i think i would break it it started because i wanted to have a stem and then and then all right so 0 that is funny it started as a pair but then it started looking word we are like martian whatever it looks like a penguin like no i i like that it stands up well maybe i should market it to some remote control company now so our art 0 poor little thing okay congratulations  nothing will come up until after our meeting is supposed to be over at all time   anybody have i got more master classes anybody else want to like take a master is class that is really funny that you got spam in your work yeah but check it out so like there are all these like links they do not go in there but all you need to keep in mind your knowledge management just want to make sure you do no the 1st one thing you said like i did not realize it was a joke and i was like fine did she send me just it is very work relevant because people send spam a lot yeah definitely i am very sad that i did not get any links to the corporate website here you can see you can see what if i get through the corporate website you can just see what is up inspiration about circuit words wow yeah it is really deep hold on it takes a little while to get excited to load the excel thing was pretty cool yes i love excel it is one of my favorite programs inspiration basically i am going to give you 2 sentences on fashion and that kind of thing see you miss out that much yeah my inspiration from last time is the interior of remote control being taken apart bit by bit talking about circuit ports i learned a lot actually 0 wow i could probably take apart of remote control now if i really needed to that is one was cooler i got a whole table and everything i do not have all about circuits and chips and trans ponderers i wrote it all down because i thought it would be relevant like all the different parts of the inside of remote control but then they are like you do not actually need this that is like mine that was like would you prefer an lcd screen or a multifunction remote control and then it did not have like any kind of table i am glad they asked that question and did not report the result it is really interesting though i thought it was a little tricky having to hand around this thing yeah yeah we had a lot of the otherwise the technology out today was kind of cool that was really neat how we got emails we did not use the whiteboard that much no although i do not see how we could have very well at least for me yeah if i had gotten pictures of the different parts of the case the different looks of the case i would have probably drawn them up because we were not voting on anything i think usually like whiteboards are good and you are like crossing ideas or like if we had like a brainstorming period we could have put our brainstorming stuff up there rather than just talking about it but i thought we were good with only 4 people it does not really make sense and with the powerpoint that we can all look at like you can do all those things pretty much on powerpoint and these might have made us more willing to like take notes than to like write them here because we all needed them separately kind of in the whiteboards in this room because we were all going to be working in different places yeah if we were all going to stay in here all the time then having the notes up on the whiteboard would have been all right but everyone needs their own like specific notes again now when you were creating your prototypes here did you work together or did you like do separate projects but we were like sort of made different shapes and then discussed how the buttons might work  and how we might do then in the way it was a bit of both really we just kind of started out by each taking a color of clay and just fooling around with it and i came out with that rhombus shape and he came up with a sort of potato y mango y shape and then just went from there really cool it was fun well done with the management i felt well managed 0 thank i think we did well in 1st of all keeping our meetings for time and secondly actually we did a good job of making firm decisions with yes sorry that happened to be all the time though i know what happens sometimes is that you tend to sit there meeting and then people sort of drift away without anything that we really been decided  but i think here we have got clear and decisive decisive points down at the end of the meeting so that we knew where to go on yeah i was quite worried at the end of the last meeting that we were not getting we did not really have enough information to make from decisions but we were able to do it regardless so i am not usually a very decisive person so it helped to have people to say this needs to be done in 5 minutes i found that we did we could have used another 5 or 10 minutes especially last time yeah i think the last time we had a lot of information but at the same time not quite enough you know what i mean we could not answer every single question right and i felt the 1st 2 meetings that i was coming with no information and that sort of made me really i do not know throwing together a powerpoint out of no information and then the last time it was like the opposite i had so much information and so much to talk about it was interesting what came out later like as i was doing the when i was doing the breakdown on the agenda that they gave me that more points came out from your presentation even i am a little i am a little disappointed that we did not do something for losing the remote because that was kind of a big point that was something like in order to talk about that we would have had to have actual knowledge about circuit boards yeah but how it was even when we just were creating from the excel file there was not like an option to select to somehow have it included so there was no way we could be like yeah it has not been there is no way for us to have written down that it was really there i think we were just getting over enthusiastic with the task well it is interesting i think we really got into it i mean i got into it as the day went on i got really like ooh i am designing remote control i do not know if that is just neat yeah it was interesting though that they put that 50% of people say they have frustration with losing their remote and yet they did not provide us with information to yeah yeah you were not providing information to discuss that i know that like people people have like things they can put on their keys that you press it and it will beep yeah but i am sure that would require some kind of technology that i just do not know what it is i think there are some of those like infomercial remotes that have things so you will not lose them i do not know i mean we were talking about it and like in my household at least there is only about 2 places that the remote is ever because there is only one tv and there is only like 3 years that is like saying you are never going to lose your keys and i always do anyway you will lose them in your pocket like you just will forget that or like put it down somewhere that like made sense and then remember there is always ways to lose things it depends on how organized you are personally yeah or like i guess what the set of the house is too but i mean i am notorious for losing my keys i guess i have just i guess i have just never lost the remote i put my keys in the refrigerator the other day i could not find them so i was putting groceries away that is fine you are taking stuff from a bag and putting them in the refrigerator to come back to my room can not get in can not get in look all around the kitchen definitely in the vegetable shore i always do the alleviating coat and using a different coat yep yep but i guess it is good we do not really carry remotes around that much yeah i can not really take it into the other room maybe with our little robot one we could have had him to have a robot alien pair whatever he is have a little voice like i am located or a gps this is a internal gps and then here you go although if it is sitting still for too long you should make one that walks by itself it really could get up and walk away or like some crazy like electro magnet that you push it and it will go to the tv and stick there or just a wheel you know just if you would have to have a remote for your remote that would get it well but if you could attach something to the tv then you can do that all kinds of possibilities okay sorry i am just trying to update my minutes i decided to you know how i sent you the email saying that powerpoint in minutes will be complementary yeah rather than like repeating i am just going to make i am making full minutes so that it will include all of the agenda and all that wow because it seems a little more useful because you had the most typing and organizing to do but i did not have like information to sloth the reader either how much of your powerpoint was already done for you every meeting most of it i added slides i added a couple slides each time but that was about it i did not even think about adding slides because i would just get slides with titles on them and fill them all in did not even think about adding more well the thing was it would provide an agenda with like several points but it would not have a slide for each point and that is the only way i remember that i need to go over that point i know personally when i do powerpoint that is what i do so i added ones even if it was just like the title of it like the 3 presentations and then we do the 3 we can not have the slogan on it or can it just be like the slogan on it no definitely it is like it could go around the outside no i do not think we need to i think the r and r especially if the yellow and black one is it yellow and blue or yellow and blue let me go to the web page yeah i was just kind of going by the web page because they did not give me any clear like yellow gray i guess it is black gray gray better than black does not look so bumble y ish i do not really like yellow in general i really understand the random like news clippings finish meeting now was not it interesting that i thought it was interesting that our marketing expert did not agree with the marketing choices you know like i will because i just feel like if you are really doing like a really big market evaluation you would not just have like one set of sources kind of and they were so not backed up it would just be a sentence being like we did a survey this is what people said yeah i do not know people always do that i guess it is sort of a gray is not it yellow and gray but then the slogan is in blue well we got some gray and we got some blue buttons we are good yeah well we do not have the right color clay anyway maybe like i do not know we could always be well we are not sadly we are into actually reproducing this 0 if they ever come out with potato potato bag of shaped remote i am going to have to i am claiming it intellectual properties yeah i can not believe the whole day is though i do not feel like it has been that long i do not get sucked in i do not think i have gotten my question there aint yet