okay door is closed well let us begin because if we have as much time as the last meeting we will have to hurry up i am listening right well i will start with the presentation again the agenda great yo so this one i think yeah well alright well i will show you the notes it is not as interesting as it should be because we just had the meeting but i will show them we will get your presentations again on the conceptual design then we will have to dec decide about the control the remote control concepts i have put a f a file in the project management folder which says exactly what kind of decisions we should take so this time we exactly know what to decide about alright great and then we will close again alright well these are some examples but we will talk about them later we will 1st look at your presentations alright walter will start again this time yeah great yo alright trendwatch kay right i will speak about latest trends trends latest fashion updates and things we must not do kay the trends it is very important that the control is fancy looking and good feeling this because of our last model was very functional but it people did not like that so our new mo model must be very good looking that is something you have to take a look at alright and the feeling has to be very great also the menus and things like that they have to they have to feel great alright there is a -2 times here because this is the most important point this is 2 times as less important and same for this one less technological technological innovations that is regarded very highly too such as an l c d screen speech acknowledgement as we talked about earlier well yeah so we have to have something like that like we l c d and our our fronts right the last point is easy to use well i think that speaks for s for itself i do not know who is who is going to look at that easy to use well easy to use s is a bit contradictionary with the 1st functional is not an issue and then easy to use yeah i think that is your ta yeah i know well we have to choose one of them i think we have to go for the 1st one yeah it is the most important one so we have to take that one okay so it it it is not very important that that it works easy well something fancy looking can be can be easy to use but it has to look great yeah we will we will look at we will see you yeah yeah yeah you can make a very complicated remote anyway so ease of use it is not a very comp complicated device yeah right but the most important thing is that it looks great and people say wow that is real great great concept alright kay alright these are the new colors of this year so it must be very bright very colorful people like this so we we have to think in this direction so i set your mind to it so well findings fashion update fruit and vegetables are cool i am told you think the group we are targeting is very pleased with fruit and vegetables so we we we might cons consider in front of in in that sort of way yeah well bananas furthermore material that is your part should be very strong i was thinking of something like well iron plate over it maybe in a color or something that looks so f really flashy but it it is also strong yeah and that is also for the younger public b well the the handy thing about our fronts is that we can follow these trends e ev every year th this year it is fruits but next year it is it is something totally different yeah that is great yeah but i think we can all make the the fronts of titanium or something really thin yes so it looks very heavy but you can still use it very easily yep alright well the don ts older people like dark colors and simple shapes well we do not want older people we want young people so we are going to turn that around we are going to have real cool shapes and lots of colors alright right wood is popular okay aha we do not want wood yeah yeah yeah yeah among the old people yeah old people so that is it for me alright nice well show us right i am going to tell you something about the components design again i have put up the specification properties this so the different components of the of of the device and the materials i have heard several things so i i will have to change that on the way but the case i suggested in the previous meeting hard plastic but as you indicated it should be strong yeah we should change that it should feel strong so maybe plastic is not sufficient we should move to something well maybe it it it is but it does not look strong so maybe well yeah y hard plastic i is of course pretty pretty tough but it does not have a really really tough look no no no but we still have to look at our price of course so because if we want an l c d window etcetera yeah also yeah but we will return to that yeah the buttons of course rubber i think everyone agrees and electrical cables copper is all pretty basic stuff the chips made of silicon i guess i think that is the best way to do it and infra infrared l led is just a simple bulb then i have had a few findings made a few findings the target audience product style it is generally the case that senior and wealthy people above 45 years old like as you said particularly the traditional materials as such as wood and materials such as that they also like straightforward shapes and luxurious style but of course that is not our things this so this is things we must not do yes and then we have young and dynamic people which is of course our group the people we aim at under 45 years old they like soft materials with primary colors soft materials is of course agai again a bit a contradiction with our material choice of what you said that it should be hard an and and and and strong looking yeah but they like soft materials so we might we have to consider that yeah and also they like curved round shapes so not too formal like like the older people want and if also a finding but not very ap applicable here that sports and gaming devices such as discmans for jogging and that those kind of devices gaming devices should define the characteristics of the device but since we do not have a really a sports or gaming device so we do not really have to consider that sports they are that are accessible on on your l c d window huh soccer fronts that is nice well i also have all the results we keep coming back to the fronts yeah several examples of styles so you can get a clear picture of what i mean yeah these are the basic older older peoples stuff yeah yeah it was not very interesting very classical looking but that is n that is not what we want we have these kind of things fruity i do not know what exactly they are it looks like well you know you recognize the shapes it is very primary colors bright colors and round shapes nai no you also see this device it is not very round and fruity of course fruity yeah it that is true it is t terrible alright and well round shapes primary colors you can see it all here and of course this famous device i think as you know something some devices like this yeah alright so to give you an idea of well it has got a strong look this this has a strong look although it is plastic it is it is gray to to to give it iron look yeah yeah it still has a strong look yeah and it is round that is but then you are losing your fruity colors yeah well we have to make a well you can make th th th that middle ring can you you can make another color that is true so those kind of things you can you can combine well we can not really make a round a round remote control i do not think that is very practical but but it is important to to to think about the color no it is not okay because if we make it gray or or silvery looking it it does make it a lot more does make it looking a lot more stronger yeah but the yes cause if you look at this it it does not look very very strong becau but this is plastic and and this too but but it does not have to look strong the the results are the feel of the material is expected to be strongy the feel the feel alright well so if you ti and it it does not have to be strong also well nah yeah the feel you you maybe you should have some some colored titanium or something only the feel so it it looks pretty but it feels strong right 0 i agree and i then i have some more findings about the energy energy source of the of the device i suggest the basic battery i got some other energy sources of course but solar energy is not very practical inside a house because you do not have a have a lot of sun and kinetic and and and dynamos are are not very practical i think for for a simple remote that is a bit 0 that is a bit no titanium that is a bit much and i also suggest as a shape a double curved case the disadvantage of that that you can use no titanium that that is the information i received if you use the curved case a curved case double curved then you what do you exactly mean with double curved can not use titanium now this to give it a more modern look and now the the shape yeah a curved case yeah i think sort of triangle shaped bottom or something a more modern look not plain long box style but i dunno double curved i will draw it but maybe later yeah it it mean yeah well okay yeah and it makes it gives it a more u user friendly shape than if you have anyway f as for the buttons simple push buttons no otherwi no difficult scroll things or some things like that because it makes more complex and expensive and as we agreed we do not use a speaker or a sensor or speak speech controlled device yeah right because it makes it also more complex and expensive but we do use an l c d screen so we we do have to consider of we have to use a more advanced chip which is more complex and expensive but well it is worth the trouble i think because the buttons can be made of an a soft material because people like that this soft material thing from yeah rubber is a soft material i guess yeah soft enough yeah right right yeah so that is basically what i want to talk about alright okay we will take that and then mike okay yeah well nah the method we will include the buttons as we discussed earlier an l c d s screen will be implemented we must decide where this meeting there are new developments in speech recognition systems and they are already being used on coffee machines and well they are cheap so we could use them now 0 it is not really speech recognition it is more like you can talk to the chip that is interesting record the message and record an answer and then once you talk to the remote then he will a answer with the the prerecorded message that you left so if i say hi mike and you have recorded hi mike back then you will get that 0 yeah i understand 0 okay yeah okay right but you can also say that when you say something it does some function no it does not does not do anything no 0 but i it is just a yeah it is it is cheap that is a bit but that that makes it cheap it is it is just a an extra function and it is cheap yeah yes i understand but it has no functionality for our remote at all no but no but that is the gadget they want or the gimmicks yeah right but it it is n nice for young people young people love them yes we we should really include that one i think they like gadgets yeah ple yeah right if it is cheap yeah well as i said earlier i think the l c d screen should be positioned at the lower end of the remote the buttons for screen width and general settings and and that kind of stuff we can also do let that kind of functions be shown in the l c d screen instead of extra buttons so you put a menu in the l c d i think young people and yeah w well every user would like that the buttons should be positioned positioned the same way as they are on a well conventional remote i think for the learnability and well to keep it recognizable a voice recognition can be implemented and i drew an example but it did not work quite the well the way i wanted it to do alright can you draw it now of can you draw it now how how ah well i have the i can draw it again and i know what i did wrong i did not tick the note bo box in the alright how do you give input to the menu on the l c d screen with the the up and down and and well buttons and the alright so you have a menu button and then you can go up and down well i will draw what i had drawn on the screen but then we should also have an an okay button yeah right yes i shall draw this button yeah if it works just there is already a blank yes so yeah yeah so have i nah you have to push hard i suggest a banana shape because of the fruity fashion yeah yeah no m next year that is out yellow and yeah alright yeah just a hunch well these little buttons are a bit difficult to draw yeah those are the the cha the channel buttons of course correct yeah just the numbers and then below is the l c d screen these these will be bigger in the the real design alright yeah this must be the okay button used to interact with the l c d screen and with this you can yes go to through the menus and that can yeah the video button should be an apart button because you want it to t yeah to use it fast within one click you have yes right and what is the menu button and you you need a you need a speaker it is for the this button can also be the menu button we use in the menus well we we can add another button here but but how did how do you get out of the menu then yeah maybe i you could j just do an an exit with okay by pe pressing the menu button again by pressing the menu button again you go out yeah yeah yeah it is usual the the the d kind of the way it works yes well but bec because when you push menu you get in and then you have to push okay when you get to a choice yeah yeah ah right yeah well you you and but you can men you can press menu again to get out well that is also the okay button that is you you should have no no we we we should add a extra menu button and this the okay button no or you can put in the l c d is window an option get out exit exit ah once you have an extra menu button you do not need that that extra option well it is just a choice you have redundancy but we need a we need a a recording recording button for the speech part or do not yeah if we decide to to implement that maybe we should why would you put it then and where is the recording the microphone where would you put it well they that could be anywhere that is very small it could be down here huh well not here i yeah i suggest here but that is just a little gap right and spea speaker at the back or something microphone yeah yeah well the speaker and the microphone i think are the same little hole thingy yeah i understand alright yeah but we could d do but it is perhaps more expensive the speaker on the back or something well i there are a all already being implemented in in coffee machines so they will not be very expensive but huh alright alright yeah okay this is my suggested design well okay alright yes then let us have a look at the decisions we are going to have to make and 0 i think as you can see so the l c d screen does look better at the lower end or at the bottom i would i agree yeah fine but fine move on well yeah yeah yeah yeah 0 i had some examples i can live with it you can yes but i did not like it very much but well these are too big quite obvious very ugly remote yeah they do they do not look fruity enough nei they are n they are not trendy no well th they are all black yeah well not all hey that one i like this is for children but th tho yeah those it does not look strong no no but it does not the w but with the colors i it is a bit the way we are going to the remote yeah right yeah ok yeah well this is a terrible terrible this is just crazy but it it must not look too childish of course huh it is it is all too much buttons this looks yeah too many buttons that is this these are the l c d screens i think we should if it is possible one with colors but nah th it is too expensive i do not know too expensive well that is too expensive i think yeah alright well nah but it yeah alright yeah okay ha even more huh n no but are we going for a strange form kay no not very strange cause people like that not not too strange not too strange no you can make the the underside you can make it more round where the l c d is it still has t yes th a a kind of bridge so it f falls over the hand i dunno if you know the no nokia telephone with the round thing at at the bottoms s something like that well yeah yeah yeah you know well i have at home a remote with a bridge it is just a half round half half circle at and then it falls exactly over the hand and that is very nice that is it feels comfortable yeah but people like something new you know exotic yeah yeah different we have t yeah yeah yeah i will design it we design it later y yis so we will get to that later i guess alright great yeah alright where did i put it the specific shape conceptual phase i think this is it the i got this from our friends so yeah the conceptual design our sources these are a few examples which we have to decide about all the the materials from the case the electric cable that is all your your side of the story your bag yeah now from the user interface your package where no well that is more like the buttons where they have to come and b a bit of yeah well a bit of design yeah this is what we have just done but we should decide now yes but we have to decide about these now right ah right yeah materials are the most most impor and the trend watching so as you said fruity is in well sells good wow yeah these things so we have to put it in one document yes so if we go through them copy paste this story into a into a word document and then put the answers after the subjects yeah not everything well we have to decide all these things yeah but all these examples are of a coffee machine yeah well w we can override them why should i yeah so well a case that is me i suggest well what do i suggest actually what what kind of properties should it have s solid yeah well we just listened i think we why do not we use titanium or or a hard yeah yeah some kind of metal for the the the whole remote except the front do you know the new that just like most cell phones are yeah i understand no no yeah so we have titanium the front is the most important yeah but the non removable elements of the of the remote so not the front could be titanium to give that strong look yeah you know what and then the front is made of plastic and you can put that on and off and switch it yeah but the feel of plastic is not strong no but you have titanium of course no but you you have this yeah you have the best of both worlds yeah alright alright kay yeah you have the re remote in your hand like this so you feel titanium and of course yeah you have the the the plastic front end but you also have the titanium yeah fronts are are cheaper than when they are from plas yeah yeah of course but yeah you have to make a and i do not know if you can make steel just any way you want it to decision yeah but it it is expensive i guess so titanium i sh i think yeah bendable huh bendable well well the well any color according to my sources it is it is totally possible to make an entire titanium is available and we can make an entire remote out of it if we want yeah then you you paint it in the color you want it yeah the plastic is is the color you want it paint spray yeah alright so yeah so we are going for a titanium back and a plastic front alright i have yeah i think that is a nice trade off titanium back plastic front okay well i am going to put it in here because we can look yeah great yeah i solid feel and trendy look alright so material hard plastic for the front yeah for the front and then titanium for the back yeah for the non removable part but then you have the problem when you have a titanium back you can not switch it when you want an other color on the front it does not match well but you know well titanium is neutral the titan titanium is not is not v very yeah i it does not curves i understand no i nei titanium is very no no no but you know b titanium is very basic color yeah yeah yeah and it does not really matter if we have a purple front on it or a orange front yeah yeah alright i dunno if if you disagree but i think it is does not matter very much well yeah alright our customers will use those funky trendy colors and they do not use wood funky customers and even if it does does not match it will people like colors that do not match yeah alright okay and well the the electrical cable is just normal cop copper material yeah excuse me the electrical cable does it is from our coffee yeah copper i just a ba basic no we do not use an electrical cable yeah inside but this is for the coffee machine yeah in yeah well inside the remote control we use a couple of of course yeah but that is not what is meant here i think nei so external 0 external yeah yeah well a coffee grind does not have na ja never mind the coffee grind well all the all the inside work of our remote is standard work so right the chip is normal silicon the buttons are normal etcetera okay alright so that is just easy we decide about that just by looking at our competitors and our earlier remotes the conceptual specification of the user interface well we have our beautiful drawing alright well i got a better one here and i will well you can put that in into the shared folder and then i will put it in our end report the shared folder i will work this out for the next meeting yes you can yeah you can put some which button is what yeah yeah yeah okay the trend watching included these days and what do we we thing that fruit and bright colors are yeah the the the front w i think we can launch a couple of packages you can buy a different kind of of of machine but it is the same thing but with another front yeah yes so we can also implement we can also implement fronts from movies that are very hot yeah that is the whole idea of the front and you can you can yeah yeah yes those kind of things yeah right but that is for later on the fronts y you can do anything with them yeah yeah but if you if you launch 5 different packages like ipod mini yeah right for the initiative launch yeah for the for the launch yeah it is good marketing launch different lines at once so e th then a c couple of basic colors not not very sim not yeah n not too heavy you can always take another pick yeah we should not give them the m the most lovely front they have to buy it later on when they buy it for the 1st time yeah 0 yeah yeah yeah right yeah come on more basic we still have to make those 50000000 yeah yeah yeah very boring yeah well you can you can give them s s 3 or so so that they can experiment with it and that they want more the most boring fronts possible the most ugly yeah right 2 yeah but you you can have some basic colors and then we come with the special patterns on them and and and yeah red red blue and green you give them or something and then you can give them other ones yeah yeah yeah alright well the buttons etcetera we get from mike this fruit and bright colors yeah well i think we will have to in the next half an hour we will have to s s specify the different types we want to launch when we well introduce our remote we still have to make we have still have to make the es the the real basic design because yeah we have the sketch but yeah but we we must remember that fancy look and feel is the most important thing yes else it w will not sell so yes alright yeah well i will have to before i get another warning for 5 minutes i am going to get where is my mouse where is my mouse lost my mouse 0 yeah this is it unbelievable well this we have yeah basic stuff interface we have supplements l c d maybe a a cheap voice recording well yes yeah we should do that the price alright individual actions we all agree on that yeah industry designer user interface mike you are going to work together on a prototype drawing on the smartboard yeah we can do that together or yeah together yeah togeth that is what i got to hear how yeah yeah but how do i but bu we stay we stay here or something yes well we will get it to hear that i think but i think so you can take the smartboard th they are saying smartboard and that is it ah right this is the smartboard so and take it to our rooms and so you can you you are going to make a prototype and y well that is includes specifying the buttons etcetera ah specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach yeah so you will get it on your em on your laptop well you will go and do something else on the project yeah project evaluation have fun some some non functional tasks so kay what are you going to do i do not know what product evaluation exactly means but you will get the specifications we do not have produ product yet so kind of difficult yeah that is why i but you are fired no but how long do we still have well can we talk about something else yeah no i do not know anything but maybe anyone else yeah ajax yeah nah will we use round buttons or square ones for the for the numbers round round i think yeah yeah i i i also thought yeah round to make it as as round as possible and these these s these buttons are more triangle ish shaped with a square one in the middle why does curvy yeah so you can see you have to up or down ah f fuck you yeah yeah but now i see the and this must be volume i think and this program heh we can not get well most of the time up and down is program and left and right are volume i think well th th th th th that depends yeah yeah it depends but well we if you turn up the volume you always see this thingy go up we we j we will just give them an we will design it and then they can give comments on it yeah that is right yeah yeah alright yeah ts it does not work any more okay we can not save them so we will just have them standing there yeah i noticed you can not click the corners no it is a bit bit a pity it is a real real great thing well we still have more than 5 minutes so what are we going to do i as project manager ha do not have a clue let us start the design 0 we can decide how we implement the feeling from our company into the remote well yeah i think a logo our company logo and the slogan should be or could be yeah why not also the slogan on the if there is enough space you can put we will we will i i would say only the logo 0 yeah me too too much text and it gets too too busy well our slogan is not very long it is just a simple what is it well it is quite a long phrase we put the fashion in electronics we put the fashion in electronics but we kree we keep adjusting to the fashion you c with our fronts so but you can put it on the back on the titanium part the logo and the and the yeah right ah the logo should be on the top i think the logo on the top yeah well in in in the right top corner yeah they do well yeah yeah right corner yes and well you c on the back you can put h at the bottom you can put the logo with the right corner or maybe here in the middle the text yeah yeah but the logo the logo should not be exchangeable when you get off the front just just small yeah at the back yeah it it should be hard on the on the on the board and you can remove the front well you c well yes yeah well yeah you can the logo can be on on every front yeah yeah but you can scratch it off or something it is better if you have it yeah but then you must really yeah push it in or something carved into the material no you you can carve it into the titanium at the back i l i like the idea of the of the slogan on the on the on the thing but am i the only one or yeah on the backside well management would like it well n n not not on the front side i think the front side no no l no slogan no not on the front but on the backside on the back yes you you can yeah push that in so that it is always be there sorry i think it is a nice idea to make it more recognizable that the next to the logo you have the slogan yeah yeah i agree to make more of an impression but not too big just yeah not too big no very small not on the entire back but just very small but readable enough of course okay yes slogan from but we will we will take that with us into the design company yeah i think over here the logo lo yeah on the back or maybe here in the middle but we will decide later with logo and logo also on the front but not exchange when changing fronts alright that is decided do you do you see a bit of the of the 5 minutes left of the titanium 0 on the front maybe if we make this this this lower part titanium the front is the the upper part and the the bit with the with the l c d screen yes we could so so a bit of titanium between yeah yeah no no betwe of between we can do but but then you have 2 parts of front 2 fronts that that is a bit 0 that that is that is pretty cool no they have 2 fronts that no no no no you have to make this titanium too you you can yeah no yeah this enti entire bottom else you you get problems with the l c d yeah yeah yes like dust in it and so things like that yeah when you exchange all the fronts and it is open i already have all kinds of no you can you can just and then not a straight line but some sort of wave or something filth between the mobile and then the lower part is titanium this is titanium i think that is nice yeah yeah and this is some some kind of wei weight in it yeah yeah round forms f front yeah i like that bit of titanium also on the yeah yeah with the with the curved edge yep a bit like a bit like your mobile phone maybe you can show it yeah it also has the those 2 distinct yeah tada bit like this yeah yeah yeah you can make it go it is round this corner too where the logo is because it has to be there all the time you know what yeah yeah ah that yeah so round where so a little corner of titanium maybe a nice touch yeah yeah that is nice finishing touch you need 0 yeah yes that also sounds pretty neat so this this is the exchangeable part i think i am going to buy it we want it yeah this is the front and it is only f €25 come on this is the that is a bit too much but no no no no but i think this looks pretty nice actually no that is nothing the phillips remote costs more of course because it is my design but no our d our design alright right my design taking all the credit well you 2 are going to work together you will get your specifications on your laptop and then you yeah we will stay here i guess but there is a problem we can not take a blank one or can we well i think we can i just it is well we can erase an animal i guess yeah the 4th one nah that is alright that is alright but do not erase my cat yeah 0 the 4th one is empty is not it yeah 0 i want to preserve it this one is empty yeah you have to empty one huh 0 we have a one what are you doing chief so you can draw a yeah alright yeah i think we have to wait yeah until the until the beep goes well i will get a i will get the message no but i do not do we have to stay here or i think we have to return 1st no i think well you will maybe you can keep your laptop here yeah maybe or get your mouse because it is little bit hard to work with these plates the high powers from above will have to tell us yeah yeah it is not relaxing i always have a mouse next to my laptop i hate these i i do not have a laptop yeah touch pads yeah ugh we can do a touch pad on our remote yeah right no just kidding yeah dream on well we have b you have to have a bit of humor in the in the discussions too because it becomes too too too too stressy and in your remote control so we put a touch pad on it and say ha ha aha half this has no function yeah we know you will you will you will hate it but but th youth does not care about functio functionality so no but they do want some gadgets it is all about cool things so that is wha what we are doing yeah and it will sell we will be rich bless you well we will not our bosses will be rich we have done too much in the previous meetings too much yes we have got nothing to do now well they well that is not bad is it no i think that is good we all had our talk and we agree i guess on several thing on most on things its the best remote ever so pinball 0 0 he is totally off again well no man you just have to push harder yeah you have to push harder but when i start here yeah it is here so is it yes but you you get really close to the screen with your hand and i do not think that is recalibrate it nope where is the good old chalk board with the yeah the green board with the how do you call it chalk yeah we can better draw a design on this yeah maybe yeah but we can not maybe if i if that thing is recalibrated we can draw a thing quick and then before it yeah goes off again let us go well finish meeting now finish the meeting now alright now we know what to do so we will stay here yeah 0 or we will get the email message maybe w maybe we maybe w m can we get email here no get away huh yeah yeah guess so i i am not sure maybe you yeah well you will have to work on this one well we will wait a few seconds and then we will get an email yeah that is a good idea alright have fun lads well yeah a happy hol happy holidays good luck
ah i thought i all let us observe the room for the report hello guys hi the pen of the board is calibrated again so it should work now fine that is it yeah yeah it does great man so i have started i have started working on the end report okay doors closed well let us begin i will listen we have as much time as the last meeting right we will have to hurry up well i will start with the presentation again great the agenda you so this one i think yeah well all right well i will show you the notes it is not as interesting as it should be because we just had the meeting but i will show them we will get your presentations again on the conceptual design then we will have to decide about the remote control concepts i have put a file in the project management folder which says exactly what kind of decisions we should take so this time we exactly know what to decide about all right great and then we will close again well these are some examples but we will talk about them later we will 1st look at your presentations all right walter will start again yeah great right trend watch okay right i will speak about the latest trends trends latest trends latest fans latest fashion updates and things we must not do the trends it is very important that the control is fancy looking and good feeling this because of our last model was very functional but people did not like that so our new model must be very good looking that is something you have to take a look at and the feeling has to be very great very great also the menus and things like that they have to feel great there is -2 times here because this is the most important point this is 2 times less important and same for this one technological technological innovations that is regarded very highly too such as an lcd screen speech acknowledgement as we talked about earlier so we have to have something like that like we lcd and our fronts right the last point is easy to use well i think that speaks for itself i do not know who is going to look at that easy to use yeah easy to use is a bit contradictory with the 1st functional is not an issue yeah i know easy to use well we have to choose one of them i think we have to go for the 1st one it is the most important one so we have to take that one okay so it is not very important that it works easy it has to look great it can be easy to use yeah well we will look at the we will see yeah yeah you can make a very complicated remote anyway so easy to use it is not a very complicated device the most important thing is that it is a very complicated device looks great and people say from wow that is a real great great concept all right these are the new colors of this year so it must be very bright very colorful people like this so we we have to think in this direction so set your mind to it findings fashion update fruit and vegetables are cool i am told are targeting is very pleased with fruit and vegetables so we might consider in front of in that sort of way furthermore material that is your part should be very strong i was thinking of something like well iron plate over it maybe in a color or something that looks really flashy but it is also strong and that is also for the younger public well the handy thing about our fronts is that we can follow these trends every year this year it is fruits but next year it is something totally different but i think we can all make the fronts of titanium or something really thin so it looks very heavy but you can still use it very easily yeah all right well the don ts older people like dark colors and simple shapes well we do not want older people we want young people so we are going to turn that around turn that around we are going to have real cool shapes and lots of colors right wood is popular we do not want wood yeah among the old people so that is it for me all right nice well ties show us right right i am going to tell you something about components design again i have put up the specification properties so the different components of the device and the materials i have heard several things so i will have to change that on the way but the case i suggested in the previous meeting hard plastic but as you indicated it should be strong it should feel strong maybe plastic is not sufficient we should move to something it is but it does not look strong so maybe well yeah hard plastic is of course pretty pretty tough but it does not have a really really tough look but we still have to look at our price of course yeah also yeah everyone wants an lcd window etc but we will return to that the buttons of course rubber i think everyone agrees electrical cables copper is all pretty basic stuff the chip made of silicon i guess i think that is the best way to do it the way to do it and infrared lead is just a simple bulb then i have had a few findings made a few findings the target audience product style it is generally the case that the senior and wealthy people above 45 years old like as you said particularly the traditional materials such as wood and materials such as that they also like straightforward shapes and looks luxurious style but of course that is not our things so this is things we must not do and then we have young and dynamic people which is of course our group the people we aim at under 45 years old they like soft materials with primary colors soft materials is of course again a bit of contradiction with our material choice of what you said that it should be hard and strong looking but they like soft materials so we have to consider that and also they like curved round shapes so not to formal like like the older people want and if also finding but not very applicable here that sports and gaming devices such as disk mends for jogging and those kinds of devices game devices should define the characteristics of the device but since we do not have have really a sports or gaming device so we do not really have to consider that sports there are that the i access one on your lcd window that is nice i also have we keep coming back to the fronts several examples of you can get a clear picture of what i mean these are the basic other other people is stuff yeah it is not very interesting very classical looking but that is not what we want we have these kind of things i do not know what exactly they are it looks like well you know you recognize the shapes it is very primary colors bright colors round shapes you also see this device it is very round and fruity fruity of course it is terrible that is true all right and well round shapes primary colors you can see it all here and of course this famous device i guess you know something so to give you an idea of strong look this this has a strong look although it is plastic it is it is gray to give the iron look and it is round it is you are losing your fruity colors yeah well we have to make it 0 you can make that middle ring can you you can make another color that is true so well we can really make a round around around remote control i do not think that is very practical no it is not but it is important to think about the color because if you make the gray or silvery looking it does make it a lot more it does make it looking a lot more stronger because if you look at this it does not look very very strong but this is plastic but it does not have to look strong the results are the feel of the material is expected to be strong the feel the feel right well if you it does not have to be strong well the feel maybe you should have some colored titanium or something so it looks fruity but it feels strong right i agree then i have some more findings about the energy source of the device i suggest the basic battery i got some other energy sources of course but solar energy is not very practical inside the house because you do not have a lot of sun and kinetic and dynamos are not very practical i think for a simple remote that is a bit no titanium that is a bit much and i also suggest as a shape a double curved case the disadvantages of that that you can use no titanium that is the information i received if you use the curved case a curved case double curved then you can not what do you exactly mean with double curved now this to give it a more modern look now the shape yeah just a curved case yeah i think a sort of triangle shaped bottom or something in any of all a more modern look not plain long book style but double curved i do not know i will draw it but maybe later and it makes it gives it the more you are friendly shape than if you have a but good anyway for the buttons simple push buttons no other way no difficult scroll things or something things like that because it makes more complex and expensive and as we agreed we do not use a speaker or a sensor or speech control device because it makes it also more complex and expensive but we do use an sd screen so we do have to consider we have to use more advanced which is more complex and expensive but it is worth the trouble i think the bucas can be made of a soft material because people like that a rubber is a soft material i guess yeah right soft enough so that is basically what i want to talk about okay we will take that and then mike okay well now the method we will include the buttons as we discussed earlier and also this screen will be implemented we must decide where this meeting there are new developments in sports developments in speech recognition systems and they are already being used on coffee machines and well they are cheap so we could use them yeah it is interesting it is not really speech recognition it is more like you can talk to the chip record a message and record an answer and then once you talk to the remote then he will answer with the pre recorded message that you left so we can say hi mic and you have recorded high mic back then you will get that but you can also say that when you say something it does some function it does not do anything that makes it cheap it is just an extra function it has no functionality power removed at all but that is the gadgets they want yeah right but it is nice for young people they like it you should really include that one i think if it is team yeah well as i said earlier i think the lcd screens should be the positions at the lower end of the remote the buttons for screen width and channel settings and that is the thing and that is kind of stuff we can also do that kind of functions be shown in the lcd screen so you put a menu in your extra buttons i think young people and yeah well every user would like that the buttons should be positioned positioned the same way as they are on well conventional remotes i think for the learnability and well to keep it recognizable a voice recognition can be implemented and i just i do an example but it did not work quite the way i want to do can you draw it now i can draw it again and i know what i did wrong i did not tick the note box in the door how do you give input to the menu on the lcd screen with the up and down and all right so you have a menu button and then you can go i will draw what i have on the screen an ok button yeah right i shall do with the button if it works just there is already a blank yes yeah so long you have to do 0 no you have to push hard you have to push hard i suggest a banana shape because of the fruity fashion no yellow next year that is out yeah all right just a hunch well these little buttons are a bit difficult to draw those are the channel buttons of course yeah just the numbers and then below is the lcd screen these will be bigger in the real design this must be the okay button used to interact with the lcd screen and with this you can go through the menus and you have a video button should be a part button because you want to use it fast within one click and what is the menu button you need the speaker for the this button can also be the menu button we use in the menu we can have another the menu again yeah maybe i you could by pressing the menu button again by pressing the menu button again you go out it is usual the kind of well the way because when you push menu you get in and then you have to push okay when you get to a choice yeah but you can menu you can press menu again to get out well that is also the okay button that is no no you should have a extra menu button and this or you can put in the lcd window and get out exit exit i want you have an extra menu button you do not need that that extra option well but we need a recording recording button for the speech part and why i am if we decide to to implement that why would you put it then and where is the recording the microphone where would you put it that could be anywhere that is very small it could be down here huh well not here i suggest here but that is just a little right the speaker at the back or something well the speaker in the microphone i think are the same little whole thing yeah i understand but we could do what it is perhaps more expensive the speaker on the back or something they are already being implemented in coffee machines so they will not be very expensive alright this is my suggested design okay let us have a look at the decisions we are going to have to make and 0 i think as you can see so the lcd screen does look better at the lower end i agree yeah fine fine move on 0 yeah yeah 0 i had some examples i can live with it yes i did not like him very much well these are quite obvious very ugly remote they do not look fruity enough no they are not trendy they are all black yeah well not all hey that one i like this is for children but it does not look strong no but it does not with the colors it is a bit the way we are going to yeah right yeah well this is terrible terrible it is all too much it must not look too childish of course these are the lcd screens i think we should if it is possible one with colors but i do not know it is too expensive yeah all right yeah okay okay ah even more no but are you going for a strange form not very strange not too strange not too strange you can make it more round yeah a kind of bridge i do not know if you know the nokia telephone with the round thing at the bottom something like that you know well i have at home and remember have at home a remote if a bridge it is just a half round half circle and then it falls exactly over the hand and that is very nice that is that this feels comfortable yeah but people like something new exaltic yeah i will design it we design it later so we will get that later i go all right where did i put it there is a specific shape conceptual face i think this is it i got this from our friends so our sources yeah the conceptual design these are a few examples which we have to decide about all the materials from the case electric cable that is all your side of the story your bag yeah now from the user interface your package where in the world that is more like the buttons where they have to come and a bit of well a bit of design yeah this is what we have just done but we should decide about these now yeah material so at most important the trend watching so as you said frutji is in net well polaris sells good wow so we have to put it in one document yes so if we copy based this story into a word documented and put the answers after the subjects yeah not everything we have to decide everything yeah but all these examples are of a coffee machine yeah well why can override them yeah well well case that is me i suggest well what do i just actually what kind of properties should it have well we just listened i think solid yeah yeah why do not we use titanium or hard yeah some kind of metal for the you know the remote except the front just like yeah i understand yeah so we have titanium the front is the most important yeah but the non remove moveable elements of the remote so not the front could be titanium to give that strong look and then the front is made of plastic and you can put that on and off and switch it yeah but the feel of plastic is not strong no but you have titanium of course you have the best of both worlds okay and you have to do a remote in your hand like this so you feel titanium and of course yeah you have the plastic front the plastic front end but you also have the front are cheaper than yeah of course but yeah you have to make and i do not know if you can make steel just any way you wanted to yeah but it is expensive i guess so titanium i think bendable well well any color according to my source it is it is totally possible to make an entire titanium is available and we can make an entire remote out of it if you want yeah then you paint it in the color you want yeah the plastic is the color you want yeah all right so we are going for a titanium back and a plastic front yeah i think that is a nice plastic front okay well i am going to put it in here because we can yeah good solid feel trendy look cell material so material hard plastic yeah for the front and titanium for the back for the non removable part but then you have the problem when you have a titanium back you can not switch it when you want a other color on the front it does not match well but well titanium is neutral titanium is not very yeah it does not curse no i the name is very no no no but you know that name is a very basic color and it does not really matter if you have a purple front on it or orange front i do not know if you disagree but i think it does not matter very much and even if it does not match i mean people like the customers all right the electrical cable is just normal corp copper beans con he has been that is all of the on the thing excuse me excuse me the electrical cable it is a copper just our coffee we do not use them in electrical cable no inside but this is for the coffee machine yeah well inside the remote control we use a couple of that is not what is meant here no 0 well yeah so external 0 external well we do we do not coffee grind does not have no yeah never mind the coffee ground well all the all the inside work of our remit is standard work so the chip is normal silicon the buttons are normal etc okay so that is just easy we decide about that just by looking at our competitors and our earlier remote the conceptual specification of the user interface well we have our beautiful drawing i have got a better one here and i will all right well you can put that into the shared folder and then i will put it in our end report i will work this out for the next meeting you can put some which button is what yeah yeah okay the trend watching pottery sells good these days and what do we we think that fruit and bright colors are yeah the i think we can launch a couple of packages you can buy a different kind of machine but it is the same thing with another front yes you can also implement you can also implement fronts from movies that are very hot right that is for later on these fronts you can do anything with yeah yeah but if you if you launch 5 different packages like ipod mini for the initiative yeah for the launch yeah it is good marketing a couple of basic colors not very yeah not too easy you can always take another pick yeah we should not give them the most lovely front they have to buy it later on come on more basic we still have to make those 50000000 very boring yeah the most boring funds possible the most ugly experiment with it and that they want more you can have some basic you can have some basic colors and then we come with special patterns on the red red blue and green you give them or something and you can give them in an other ones well the buttons etc we get from mike this fruit and bright colors yeah well i think we will have to in the next half an hour we have to specify the different types we want to launch when we well we have to do our remote we have still have to make the real basic design because now we have the we have the sketch we must remember that fancy look and feel is the most important thing yes also it will not so all right yeah well i will have to before i get another warning from 5 minutes i am going to get where is my mouse where my mouth i lost my mouth 0 yeah this is it unbelievable well this we have basic stuff interface we have supplements lcd maybe a cheap voice recording well we should be that yes all right individual actions we all agree on that agree on that industry designer ties use interface mike you are going to work together on a prototype drawing on the smart board we can do that together together together or yeah yeah well we will get it to hear that i think but i think so there is smart you can take the smart board this is the smart board so and take it to our rooms and so you can you you are going to make a prototype and you well that is includes specifying the buttons etc yeah so you will get it on your email in your laptop well you will go and do something else project so so okay you know what are you going to do i do not know what product evaluation exactly means but you get the specifications we do not have product yet so yeah that is why i yeah kind of difficult but you are fired no how long do we still have well can we talk with something else yeah so now i do not know i think but yeah yeah yeah we use round buttons or square ones for the round i think to make it as round as possible and these these these buttons why is a more triangular yeah so you can see you have to yeah but now i see the this must be volume i think in this program  most of the time up and down is program and left and right are volume i should think well that depends it depends yeah well we volume you all see this we will just get it will design it and that they can give comments on it yes it does not work anymore we can save them so we will just have them yeah i know this you can click the corner no it is a bit so really really we still have more than 5 minutes so what are we going to do i have a clue that is dark the design 0 we can decide how we implement the feeling from our company into the remote well yeah i think a logo our company logo and the slogan should be or could be yeah why not if there is enough space then you can put the wheel i would say only the logo yeah me too too much text and well our slogan is not not very long just a simple what is the fashion in electronics phrase we put the fashion in electronics we keep adjusting to the fashion with our fronts so but you can put it on the back on the titanium part the logo and the yeah the logo should be the logo i think on the top yeah how they do well yeah right top corner and well right corner or can put maybe here in the middle at the bottom you can put the logo with the text yeah but the logo should not be exchangeable when you get it should be a hard on the board and you can the logo can be on every you can scratch it off or something it is better if you have it yeah but then you must have really carved into the material push it in or so now you you can carve it into the titanium at the back i like the idea of the of the slogan on the on the thing but am i the only one or well management who like it not on the front side i think the front side no but on the back side yes you can push it in so that is always a nice idea to make us more recognizable that the next to the logo you have the slogan i agree to make more but not too big just not too big no very small not on the entire back but just very small but readable now of course okay but we will take that with us into the design over here the logo yeah or maybe here in the middle what we will decide later with logo and logo also on the front but not ex change so we are going to be yeah when changing fronts all right do you see a bit of the 5 minutes left of the titanium on the front maybe if we make this lower part titanium the front is the upper part and the bit with the lcd screen so a bit of titanium between between yeah now between that is pretty cool but then you have 2 parts of 2 parts of yeah yeah this entire you get problems with the lcd yes like dust in it and things like that when you exchange all the fronts and it is all yeah i already have all kinds of and then not a straight line mobile some sort of weight and then the lower part of titanium this is titanium i think that is nice some kind of way yeah yeah round form yeah i like that a bit of the team also on the yeah a bit like your mobile phone maybe you can show it it also has the those distinct a bit like this yeah you can make it go around this corner too where the logo is because it has to be there all the time yeah yeah that yeah a little corner titanium 0 yeah it is all that sounds pretty yeah so this i think i am going to buy it we want this is the front and it is only €25 come on no it is nothing no no no but the phillips remote costs more of course because it is my design our our time well you 2 are going to her together you get your specifications on your laptop and then we will stay here i guess but there is a problem we can not take a blank one or can we well i think we can i just put it well we can erase an animal i guess yeah yeah that is right but do not erase my cat yeah the 4th one is empty 0 i want to preserve it this one is empty you have the empty one now we have a pretty empty one what are you doing chief so you can draw yeah i think we have to wait i will get the message but i do not do we have to stay here or i think we have to be on 1st well maybe you can keep your laptop here maybe or get your mouse because it is the high power from above hard to work with these plates we have to talk it is not relaxing i always have a mouse next to my laptop i hate these i do not have a mouse touch pads yeah we can do a touchpad on our remote just kidding 0 you have a you have to have a bit of humor in the in the discussions too because it becomes too and in your remote control so we put a touchpad on it and say ha ha this has no function we know you you hate it but but the youth does not care about functionality no but they do want some gadgets it is all about cool that is what we are doing and it will sell we will be rich bless you well we will not our bosses will be rich we have done too much in the previous meetings too much yes we have got nothing to do now well that is not bad is not it no i think that is good we all had our talk and we agree i guess on several things on most things it is the best remote error so 0 he is here he is totally off again well no man you just have to push harder yeah you have to push harder but when i start here it is here you get really close to the screen with your hand and i do not think it is recalibrated where is the good old chalkboard with the yeah the green board with the how do you call it you can better draw our design on this yeah maybe yeah but we can not maybe if that thing is recalibrated we can draw a thing quick and then before it goes off again well finished meeting now finish the meeting now alright now we know what to do so we will stay here yeah maybe you know get away can we get me a meal yeah i am not sure maybe you are yeah well you have to vote a few seconds yeah that is a good idea all right have fun lads happy holiday do not do too little 0 man make us a nice design going to relax i think we have to design here or maybe this room is only for discussions but how can we cooperate if we do you have to come with the well it is a little off again and also do we have to either industry designer and the designer and we have to design now together the yeah here and you would you be here talking yeah they stay here and we are here all right exactly good good luck alright you who draws you draw the main design so i am the better artist i guess that is true of course i really like this yeah i really like this yeah i think we have to put somewhere also there is i think we have to put somewhere also there away so we can decide things for ourselves mike and thais and co and company get into your room maybe that is not very fair i have no question no come me thank you