hello hey guys hi hi hi i see my bunny is still standing yeah no one drawing it it is too beautiful yeah true i figured that much too wicked a minute please my laptop is 0 there it is thank you so welcome back at the functional design meeting the plan is that each one of you so not me but only you will present the the things you worked on the last half hour i will take minutes and will put the minutes that i have at the end of the session in the shared folder also the minutes of the previous session are also in the shared folder now so you can read that now or afterwards i had an email from the from the management board i do not know if you a al also received it but there were 4 points which i think are very important 1st one is they think that teletext teletext becomes outdated and internet will be the the main focus 2nd one is also important because it is one of the discussion points of the previous session the remote control shou should onl only be used for the television so it not going to it is not going to be a multi purpose remote control so that is one thing to keep in mind 2nd and i think that is important for the marketing expert the current customers are in the age group group of 40 years and older but with this new remote they will would like to reach a group younger than 40 and i think to keep in mind but not really for now is that they want the the the slogan and the and the logo to to be recognized more in the remote so we have 40 minutes so i think not more than 10 minutes per presentation each and please use all the the the facilities so that you have either smartboards the the word files what you whatever you want so tim can you start okay yeah kay welcome i have some new findings on marketing expert level which i will show you the method i used was giving orders to our usability lab to do a questionnaire 100 respondents were involved and my marketing department generated a report with a lot of results these were a couple of findings 1st page of 3 we have 3 audiences of 2 audiences i am sorry the 1st one this scale from 16 to 45 age the 2nd one is from 6446 to 65 as you can see here the market share for the 1st audience is about 60% 65 2nd audience audience is 35% and some interests from the from the age groups it seems like the young users of remote controls really like the fancy new technology stuff like an l c d screen on the remote control speech recognition i do not think that is really appropriate and when you see the audience the age is going up yeah they do not really want it anymore at least the new technologies 2nd findings out of the questionnaire are the opinion the opinions of the audience about current remote controls 1st point is 75% of the users find the most repo remote controls very ugly and 80% of the users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy so that is maybe something for the user interface designer okay 3rd findings according to the frequency of use versus importance investigation following buttons are most important i will tell something about the way this this test was yeah done persons were asked what the buttons were they use most how much an hour and in the 2nd table the importance of those buttons when you multiply them you get the these 3 points switching channels yeah that is pretty pretty normal that is what you do with a remote control the 2nd teletext and the 3rd volume controls i think it is good that we know what the user want wants at least the these 3 points have to be very clear but it is strange that the the manage board the management board said that the teletext will be outdated by the internet yeah okay so that that is strange yeah okay but at the moment teletext is yeah th the best thing you can get on t v like getting information yeah okay so when you ask people what do they use yeah they use teletext and not the internet on a remote control okay yeah okay that is ridiculous yeah that is a ne i it it is a new technology but it is not incorporated right now yeah okay my personal preferences i think we should aim at the audience from 16 to 45 1st of all it is the biggest share the biggest audience 65% 2nd i think you will get the most revenue from i from it yeah people from 16 to 45 watch a lot of t v more than people who are el elder 2nd point we have to impro improve the most used functions as i said here switching channels teletext and volume controls 3rd point that came out of the of the questionnaire people used to get lost off the remote controller so maybe it is an idea for us to design ex kind of placeholder on side of the yeah that is a cool idea yeah of the t v where you can put the the remote control in that is about it i think yeah when you mentioned improving functions what what do you mean by that what what are you think about not not the r not the functions but it came out that a lot of buttons were not even used on a remote control the funtionability so you can have a remote control full of buttons a 100s 100s of buttons but if you do not use them yeah it is yeah ah okay so focusing more on the used buttons yeah they have to be on it j just to t to get it done if necessary yeah but the most used buttons have to be bigger or could you use perhaps one button for multiple functions like example pressing it in longer makes it switch to an different function for example yeah perhaps just for the minor functions perhaps thank you yeah ma perhaps just just an idea just to get less buttons on the remote control to make it easier and quicker to learn yeah yeah kay that is it thank you tim janus can you yeah yeah i will go sure right i will be explaining a bit about working design about the project well what i did was i dissected current remote controls and i viewed how how they w looked how they worked what kind of components are involved and how they are connected together and after that i put up a scheme about how these things are organized and i will show it to you in in a in a few seconds and i will explain a bit about how it works and how we could build one and why i think several possibilities that we discussed in the earlier meeting falls off right well what i did was i i checked remote controls and the remote controls of today are all infrared not like all probably know and the thing about that is the remote controls have to act as a t v or a stereo or something and those have a transmitter that is also focused on infrared so if we want to build a remote control with bluetooth for instance then the t v should have bluetooth too in order to communicate so that would mean extra cost for the user and thus that is that would not mean a a cheap remote control for us so that is probably why most controls are still infrared furthermore they all have a a very simple structure so that would probably mean lower costs and i that could mean for us a good thing cause well we we should be able to build a relatively cheap a cheap remote well as i mentioned ready we have some bluetooth well it may be possible but i figured it would not be possible in within our budget but that is not for me to decide but that is maybe something for marketing to look into f because well my personal opinion is is not to do bluetooth or or radio waves although what do you think about incorporating bluetooth or a radio receiver in the place holder next to the t v connected to the t v yeah actually i have t so it is in the wrong product yeah yeah i actually i figured that would be that would be rather nice but then you would still have the the infrared function so in in theory you would actually just move the problem yeah yeah but what i did think about was when you mentioned about the the cup holder is why not introduce a speech function like where is the remote if somebody says where is the remote then it goes beep beep beep beep or something i dunno yeah maybe maybe something to look into i dunno what the cost that something like that would be but it may be may be something to explore i will i will just explain a bit of the components 1st you have the energy source the energy source would be a battery simple battery that you can find anywhere i figured that would be best cause when the battery stops functioning we could just use you could just go out and buy a new one so we did not and we do not have to do all to be too complicated about that the energy source is connected to the infrared button but the infrared button works only via the chip and the subcomponent to the switch there is a switch between these when the switch is pressed in a w on this this case it switches a button when a button is prush pushed in a electric current goes through here and in immediately a l a bulb lights up displaying to the user that something has happened that is that is so the h user will not be thinking well did the button be pressed w what happened or i press button but nothing is happening on the t v so is is something wrong or something so that is just to to to explain the of to to make it clearer to the user w well the signal goes via chip that is translated into electric sig electronic signals and then it is processed and then it is sent to the infrared bulb where it will be received on the receiving end and those interpreted by the device well in this case the television well my personal preferences here well we have to keep it simple not too many gadgets and functions just like you said well the most users n you have a lot of buttons and you u u use you do not use them so why why should we invent w spend more time on those i i think we should stick by with infrared transmitting and no receiving so no input from the television so i think we should not be spending time on teletext and saint things like that because when you want teletext on infrared you would have to build in a receiver too and so in order to receive the signals from what is on t v and such so i figure that would be spending too much money and time and yeah maybe another problem i think current t v s can even send infrared yes but what should we s i i i f i agree with you but should we spend money or and time on building a receiver into the remote control huh cause that would be i mean extra components extra designs larger g remote control yeah yeah these all all stuff that we have to take in account so i i my personal opinion is no no no receiver at all well we should look into the design and the functionability yeah like i said use one button for instance for m multiple functions or well just hide the few buttons 0 of switching it open or something the usual stuff and do not overbuild we should not make a big remote control for simple functions but we we should stick to the basics so that was my my personal opinion and that was my my presentation okay okay thank you janus yes i can go ahead you do the last presentation last presentation you have plenty of time tim and janus do not talk to 10 minutes so take your time okay if you take your time too long i will eventually warn you well i am going to give a presentation abut some of the technical functions of these design and usability functions what is my opinion about what is most important to combine the design technical possibilities and the user friendliness in one so if you going to design a remote that looks good that should not weigh over the if it is possible to make of course but also the user friendliness so tha that is that is some of the main points and another one is the use of many functions will will make it more difficult so use as as little functions as possible or at least do not display them all at once on the same remote if you have 50 functions you do not want 50 buttons t to be shown at the same time cause when you visit an internet site you do not want 50 links to see but maybe use a hierarch hierarchy structure and well one of the ideas was maybe use touch screen but s i do not know in how far that is possible since we are sticking to infrared and and the remote cannot receive anything but we might consider that well of course i i hope this is all clear to you if you you can use remote like this with all the functions many functions but well your thumb is a little bigger than th it than this you have to be very careful what you push and if you are looking for teletext you will be searching for half an hour from yeah well where is it where the hell he here i guess and yeah when you have to use something else so just keep it simple make clear buttons easy to use for example if you want to use a play and back and stop that is very important well this was because of our last discussion if multiple machines are used create easy switch between the machines but it is no longer applying well yeah i prefer to use it only for t v and n not to give too many options and and if possible the buttons should give a doctor direct action not 1st select you you just said you wanted to to combine more functions in one so you you want to keep it simple yeah and so that is where the difficulties lie yeah but but i think that if you want to do that then you can not escape the the fact that there will be buttons which give s more options than one yeah this so that is the thing you have to weigh against each other yeah yeah but do we want to use a few options and might not be so or original or multi purpose as we thought or do we want to use many buttons okay yeah so weighing those factors it is maybe an option if you use an l c d or a touch screen that in the middle are the the main keys like displayed on the yeah the does not yeah this no yeah something like that okay just in the middle the general functions like play channel switching and then at the top or at the bottom some menus like settings or that you can drop down yeah yeah but when all the questions i had do we want to use a menu display on the t v or does have to f everything be in remotes cause if you use a memory display on the t v you can simply push a more menu and then select the options you want to have and press okay so that is my recommendation if you use many options in one buttle button nah display the menu on the t v and do not use combination of t of 2 buttons at the same time or pressing buttons 3 times for 5 seconds yeah is too complicated for most users yeah i think so too but and that is partly because a lot of t v s have different menus yeah but and when you have a particular menu at your device it could be that do not correspond to the menu what is actually on t v yeah that will be a problem yeah well you d you have to keep in mind that several t v s do not even have a menu structure or they have a very simple menu structure so you have to keep in mind that not all d not our remote will not be able to work on all televisions yes and that would be a considerable problem so if we have to stick with current technologies and well yeah the restrictions of what is is on the market today you should keep it s at this yeah use big clear buttons not too many so maybe we will loose a few option options but i think i this is more important especially the important buttons if you want to switch channel change your volume use teletext it it has to work at once and more advanced options may be put it s somewhere away on the remote not embed behind a little little thing or a touch screen yeah but then with something like a touch screen could could make more menu up pop up or something and yeah if you want to s put on stand by or change the channel that should always be possible to do not 1st change menu options or switch something yeah well yeah as you already told give some feedback yeah if the user is pushing a button he should know if the television or n at least remote is reacting and not just that the batteries may be low and well my conclusion is is less is more keep it simple so maybe we should just ease down on the functionality to to keep it accessible on t because you all know if there are a lot of function on the the television some you you will never know and never use and therefore it is important if you want to change the volume or channel that is always accessible and easy and other functions that are not so important well you we should consider just not using them or at least putting them somewhere on the remote where they are not in the way for the for the most important functions yeah yeah i think the idea about touch screen is very good because recently i saw news item on t v about new telephones for elder people they have like a touch screen with really big pictures on it like call hang up and that is a big ad advantage i think because one the one hand you make the remote control compatible for elder users just by scaling up the pictures or something it is very visual intended what was i to say more maybe that is an option keep the primary buttons visible yeah make a remote that fits easily in the hands and for some design issues well put a logo on it and maybe use it in some esthetic esthetic form but th the important buttons m make them always accessible and pushable and clear and maybe use a touch screen or if that is will become too difficult just like televi some 0 older telephones use a l maybe it is possible to to flip them open and just expand the number of options that are normally visible yeah okay but but if you pick the the idea the left idea yeah then what is going to be displayed on the touch screen the extra functions the extra functions you you just see a menu from system functions or teletext functions yeah but l like menu functions or yeah and you just choose one and then all all the options will become available and you just c s yeah t scroll through them ah okay would not it be better to make just one big touch screen yeah i think so 11 small touch screen applet and i will just make let us say 15 buttons on it and we have 3 of those actually just menus with sub menus with or sub items sub functions yeah well then i would like to make a proposal if you make one big touch screen yes use the same concept as here keep the buttons always available and use the lower part of the touch screen for the rest yeah yeah yeah yeah like like the ipod idea that that we just saw yeah yeah you just have a f a few selected buttons and a few menus and with this idea you could actually make several you can also improve later on yes i think that will be great okay so you think it is will be better to have a t kinda total touch screen yeah i think so yeah i wou i would actually go for the jirun okay i agree but i think it is very important that they always make the same buttons accessible so use just for special options a part of the touch screen yeah of course yeah yeah and so an elder designer picks up th the of an elder parents or grandparent picks up the remote from the little child and who is all in the systems functions yeah yeah yeah you will have to have the possibility to turn off the t v or to switch the channel without well using all the menu structures to get back to the primary functions yeah yeah i had another idea about maybe parental control like building in some kind of pin code which allows parents to switch to all channels yeah but children if children do not do not know the pin code they can not switch to violent channels or yeah wh is that possible to use or no that is possible that well that actually depends on the television but i think i figure that would be th there is just well yeah well does it have to depend on the television ju just a simple log in something like that well y you s you see the fi thing is when you buy a remote you you set the channels yeah yeah the the channels are different on each te television they are not set in a preset order yeah so if you lock on a remote let us say channel 15 well channel 15 on this television is different than channel 15 on the other television so that would be that would be actually the main concern yeah okay yeah well i think that he means that maybe by some option make sure that remote control and the t v match yeah and then after that you can use some s insert some passwords as being apparent that the children cannot use this change the settings of the t v yeah like color and then volume and yeah th that kind of stuff but maybe if you log in 1st as a parent you address the the channels and like 0 that is channel 15 that is yes vi violent channel m my ki my kids i do not want my kids to watch that then you set the priority to only parents 0 something like that yes yeah yeah okay yeah well b but make it a separate option in the menu so that it is it is dif dis displayed from displayed here so parents yeah that would b for example but yeah that yeah okay but but yeah that is just that is an a an added feature yeah okay but let us not go too wide about the those things that is that why we are here yeah th th those things are nice it is it is a nice idea but i think that is we wel later in the stage i have one little question about a total touch screen or a p yeah a partial partial because i think elderly people may be not used to a touch screen so they want the the the normal functions like teletext volume changing to be yeah kinda traditionals and the the the the other functions yeah the more difficult functions to be maybe on the touch screen but to keep this as normal as possible to keep it accessible yeah but but if you display it on l c d screen with r r really big numbers yeah you can de display it on the on the old style that is just as e just as easy i i do you can display actual buttons on the touch screens yeah yeah that is true that is true i do agree because well it is just not the same when you touch a touch screen or when you touch a button yeah yeah okay but well we have to look at what is our target audience yeah it is different w we are aiming for younger people and they they chose yeah yeah that is true yeah yeah age b below 40 yeah yeah yeah yeah that is a good point so that is that is probably a yep and th those young people yeah y you saw it in my marketing report they like the new fancy stuff so they like the fancy stuff yeah that is true a touch screen like microsoft al already developed something like that for multi media applications i th i think we can do that too yeah okay as you can see the minutes from the 2nd meeting this one are are done done i have added the this 4 things from the management board just to keep in mind each time i i had a sort of summary on what you told and what you personal think so that can be can be read out a f a few things i i noticed were moment ooh th the the main points in this in this meeting is i think how it is going to look with we must keep it simple but have the opportunity to have more options and have them hidden or something so they do not you do not have a big thing full of buttons or and the point that you want to use one controller for hypothetically each television so you must the the the the functions know like the menus or the the parental control must be all by the done by the remote control and not by the television i think that is the point what yes we discussed yeah yeah some of them the menus are not identical for all th for all t v s so you have to display it on one t v well you can use when you how do you call it s synchronized the remote and the t v then there is always yeah but that is not possible there are always possibilities to change the color and the brightness and the volume and well maybe we can look out if there is options that the remote in its memory can see what kinda t v it is yeah from ah it is a philips this and this and that and then give the options that are capable the capable from the t yeah but you have an yeah but you have an international market range so you have i think a big range of add th that that is an opportunity well there are universal d remotes and they all have a functionality for all the t v s yeah so this would not be a extra feature to incorporate the men menus of these yeah okay but they but and it is not too complex to do it well they they all have to be programmed to fit your t v and that that is bit of a tricky job no yeah yeah i actually use one of those when they are they are kinda kinda troublesome but but the thing is whe when you start building something like this you have to build a receiver into the t into the remotes because in order for the remote to process something from the t v like to synchronize and you have to send and receive and that is well yeah well yeah 0 mo no you can just say the c no no no he he he he me he means just just one other thing just build it in yeah with the current remote controls the universal ones you have to press yeah you have to press a code for t v yeah yes in codes y you you get a b a book with codes you look up i have a philips h 55 and it says press code 455 and you press code 455 on the in the remote and it displays all your menu options yeah yeah 0 okay yeah sure yeah yeah yeah 0 yeah yeah sure that would be possible yeah yeah now we just connect the t v type to a set of options in just just in the memory memory in the in the remote yep profiles so that if you yeah like profile so that if you touch in like 1410 kind of t v yeah the memory pops up the options yeah yeah that would be possible okay yeah sure i th do not think that is that takes a lot of storage space or some just varia variables no that would not be yeah a few variables yeah well if you look at the manuals from universal remotes there are maybe 3400s t v s at maximum yeah yeah if you have all of them all the old and new t v s summed up so i think it is possible ah it is it is definitely po but on the other hand on the other hand if you have a remote and buy a new t v that is not incorporated in the remote we have 5 minutes to go yeah well then you have to buy a new one it is very good for marketing new remote maybe or an update software update a firmware upgrade or something but from where firmware update you say yeah firmware upgrade ah maybe w that is maybe the cup holder no m may no maybe we can incorporate some kind of u s b or a firewire connection yeah yeah so that you can connect it to the p c and download the newest firmware from from the internet well not everybody has has a p c at home well the most most people have but not not everybody and well at you can go back to the shop and they yeah like a s kind of service center yeah yeah ser 0 and they can download it for you yeah maybe something like service cen or you could well you could s actually look at the place holder you talked about earlier yeah and you could probably make a connection to an telephone line or a internet connection yeah well already digital information is sent t to the the standards t v connections yeah you can see what is program is on on the new channels so maybe j they we can send that information along with standard t v well then then it is be back to the building a receiving well if it is actually worth it to build it in receiving 0 yeah yeah we could actually look at into it but i dunno it it would be bringing more costs with with it and yeah difficult yeah i i think it is most cheap or cheapest to just do the updates at the service center or at the shop yeah that would be probably best yeah yeah yeah s i think some i think it is good idea yeah yeah like when you when you buy a t v you just ask well i will it is it is it is not a lot of work just one docking station where you put it in press start bling bling updated yeah yeah that would be best yeah yeah yeah yeah you do not buy a t v every week new teev so okay let us save this in the meanwhile no no exactly so m for which one are we going my mistake let us vote that one or yeah my vote goes out to the right your vote and your okay my vote too yeah and your vote well i was doubting about which one to take but you have convinced me that if you di display buttons about the same as they would look on a normal remote all elderly people will know what to do yeah yeah and also like a clapping li like device that pops open opens up is too difficult or flips open too difficult maybe it is easier to break it n yeah break it i do not get yeah th th th that i yeah it is very sensitive 0 so yeah like my telephone it is it is sensitive too yeah yeah okay well it is almost at the end so we have now a lunch break finally yeah ah after the lunch break it is back to individual work once again 30 minutes i will put my minutes i have updated them so s they are updated in the shared folder too 30 minutes 30 minutes the how minutes failure the specifi specific instructions for the next meeting you will all will receive at the the the email i do not think i can say much about it so wait for your email and hopefully you get it done in the in the 30 minutes and i w will see you after the lunch break and the 30 minutes one question how late do we have to get back be back here yeah well 30 minutes a quarter to one maybe yeah 30 minutes lunch break 30 minutes lunch break yeah okay i thought 45 0 45 yeah then would it be 10 clock yeah or we we ask our personal coach okay yeah okay thank you thank you that was a very good session i think we we yeah is it possible to store this on the share documents or what yeah me too ye well save as yeah because all things are stored in smart board dot x d k and that is in yeah v but but you can open a from your pr from your laptop kay save it as an image on the res yeah maybe save as export no no maybe not export function export well i can i can export h t m l no and use an image if possible huh image j peg g yeah j peg j peg yeah it is better paper size a 4 screen size in this directory yeah n 0 0 yeah it is not connected to the you all have the the questionnaire again about the after work to our p c s no yeah it is connected it is connected yeah i think so to room deskt huh no i will just saved in my documents 0 yeah in my own in my own messenger yeah project documents yeah yeah it gives the na 0 yes okay nice okay thank you the questionnaire fill in we fill out d after lunch or well it is it is simply filling 0 no it is it is also filling out no i would do it after lunch i think okay aye cheers i am hungry so do it after lunch yes thank you all thank you you are welcome we can leave the p c on i think yeah and return to the yeah of course yeah well i bring it to my personal room yeah bring to i got to bring it home to my exave executive my executive big room with the with the panting a big office yes aye yeah okay
hi guys hi hi i see my bunny is still standing yeah all enjoying it too beautiful i figured that much 0 wicked a minute please my laptop is 0 there is thank you so welcome back at the functional design meeting the plan is that each one of you so not me but only you will present the things the things you worked on the last half hour i will take minutes and we will put the minutes that i have at the end of the session in the shared folder also the minutes of the previous session are also in the shared folder now so you can read that now or afterwards i had an email from the management board i do not know if you all have all also received it but there were 4 points which i think are very important 1st one is they think that teletext teletext becomes outdated and internet will be the main focus 2nd one is also important because it is one of the discussion points of the previous session the remote controls should only be used for the telemet so it is not going to be a multi purpose remote control so that is one thing to keep in mind 2nd and i think that is important for the marketing expert the current the customers are in the age group of 40 years and older but with this new remote they will would like to reach a group younger than 40 and a thing and a thing to keep in mind but not really for now is that they want the slogan and the logo to be recognizable in the remote so we have 40 minutes so i think not more than 10 minutes per presentation each and please use all the the facilities that you have you the smart boards the word files what you whatever you want so tim can you start okay yeah yeah new findings on marketing expert level which i will show you the method i used was giving orders to our usability lab to do a questionnaire 100 respondents were involved and my marketing department generated a report with a lot of results these were a couple of findings 1st page of 3 we have 3 audiences of 2 audiences i am sorry the 1st one this scale from 16 to 45 years and age the 2nd one is from 64 46 to 65 as you can see here the market share for the 1st audience is about 60% 65 2nd audience is 35% and some interests from the age groups it seems like the young users of remote controls really like the fancy new technology stuff like an lcd screen on the remote control speech recognition i do not think that is really appropriate and when you see the audience the age is going up yeah they do not really want it anymore at least the new technologies 2nd findings out of the questionnaire are the opinions the opinions of the audience about current remote controls 1st point is 75% of the users find the most remote controls very ugly and 80% of the users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy fancy so that is maybe something for the user interface designer okay 3rd findings according to a frequency of use versus importance investigation following buttons are most important i will tell something about the way this test was done done persons were asked what the buttons were they used most how much an hour and in the 2nd table the importance of those buttons when you multiply them you get these 3 points switching channels yeah it is pretty normal that is what you do with a remote control the 2nd teletext and the 3rd volume controls i think it is good that we know what the user wants at least these 3 points have to be very clear but it is strange that the management board said that the teletext will be outdated by the internet that is strange yeah okay but at the moment teletext is yeah the best thing you can get on tv like getting information so when you ask people what do they use they use teletext and not internet on remote control that is ridiculous it is a new technology but it is not incorporated right now okay my personal preferences i think we should aim at the audience from 16 to 45 1st of all it is the biggest share the biggest audience 65% 2nd i think you will get the most revenue from it yeah people from 16 to 45 watch a lot of tv more than people who are elder 2nd point we have to improve the most use functions as i said here switching channels data tax and volume controls 3rd point that came out of the questionnaire people used to get lost of the remote controller so maybe it is an idea for us to design a kind of placeholder on sign of the tv where you can put the remote control in that is about it i think when you mentioned improving functions what do you mean by that not the functions but it came out that it came out that a lot of buttons were not even used on a remote control so you can have a remote control full of buttons 100s of buttons but if you do not use them yeah 0 so focusing more on the use buttons they have to be on it just to get it done if necessary but the most use buttons have to be bigger or could you use perhaps one button for multiple functions like example pressing it in longer makes it switch to a different function yeah perhaps just for the mining functions perhaps yeah perhaps just not yet just to get less buttons on the remote control to make it easier and quicker to learn yeah yeah okay that is it thank you tim yeah i will go sure right i will be explaining a bit about working design about the project well what i did was i dissected current remote controls and i viewed how they looked how they worked what kind of components are involved and how they are connected together and after that i put up a scheme about how these things are organized and i will show it to you in a few seconds and i will explain a bit about how it works and how we could build one and why i think several possibilities that we discussed in the earlier meeting falls off right well what i did was i checked the remote controls and the remote controls of the remote controls of today they are all infrared like you all probably know and the thing about that is the remote controls have to access a tv or a stereo or something and those have a transmitter that is also focused on infrared so if we want to build a remote control with bluetooth for instance then the tv should have bluetooth 2 in order to communicate so that would mean extra cost for the user and this that is that would not mean a cheap remote control for us so that is probably why most controls are still infrared furthermore they all have a very simple structure so that would probably mean lower costs and that could mean for us a good thing because well we should be able to build a relatively cheap remote well as i mentioned radio waves and bluetooth well it may be but i figured it would not be possible within our budget but that is not for me to decide but that is maybe something for marketing to look into because well my personal opinion is is not to do bluetooth or or radioways although what do you think about incorporating bluetooth or radio receiver in the place all next to the tv connected to the tv yeah actually it is in our own product yeah i actually figured that would be rather nice but then you still have the infrared function so in theory you would actually just move the problem but what i did think about was when you mentioned about the cup holder is why not introduce a speech function like where is the remote if somebody says where is the remote then it goes and beep beep beep beep or something i do not know maybe something to look into i do not know what the cost would be that is something like that would be but it may be maybe maybe something to explore i will just explain a bit of the components 1st you have the energy source energy source would be a battery simple battery that you could find anywhere i figured that would be the best because when the battery stops functioning we could just use could just go out and buy a new one so we did not we do not have to do all to be too complicated about that the energy source is connected to the infrared button but the infrared button works only via the chip and the sub components there is a switch between these when the switch is pressing in on this case the switch is a button when the button is pushed in electric current goes through here and immediately a bulb lights up displaying to the user that something has happened the user will not be thinking well did the button be pressed what happened i press the button but nothing is happening on the tv so it is something wrong or something so that is just to explain to make it clearer to the user well the signal goes via a chip that is translated into electronic signals and then it is processed and then it is sent to the infrared bulb where it will be received on the receiving end and thus interpreted by the device one in this case television well my personal preference is well we have to keep it simple not too many gadgets and functions just like you said the most users you have a lot of buttons and usually you do not use them so why should we spend more time on those i think we should stick with infrared transmitting and no receiving no input from the television so i think we should not be spending time on teletext and things like that because when you want teletext on infrared you would have to build in a receiver too and so in order to receive the signals from what is on tv and such so i figured that would be spending too much money and time yeah maybe another problem i think current tvs can not even send can not even send yes but should we i agree with you but should we spend money or and time on building a receiver into the remote control because that would be i mean extra components extra designs larger remote control yeah these all all stuff that we have to take in account my personal opinion is no no no receiver at all well we should look into the design and the functionality like i said use one button for instance for multiple functions or well just hide a few buttons or switching and open or something the usual stuff and do not overbuild we should not make a big remote control for simple functions but we we should stick to the basics so that was my my personal opinion and that was my my presentation okay thank you guys yes i can do the last presentation you have plenty of time tim and i do not talk to 10 minutes so take your time if you take your time too long i will essentially warn you well i am going to give a presentation about some of the technical functions design and usability function what is my opinion about what is most important to combine the design technical possibilities and the use of friendliness in one so if you are going to design a remote that looks good it should not weigh over the if it is possible to make of course but also the user friendliness so that is some of the main points and another one is the use of many functions will make it more difficult so use as little functions as possible or at least do not display them all at once on the same remote if you have 50 functions you do not want 50 buttons to be shown at the same time is when you visit an internet the site you do not want 50 links to see but maybe use a high arch structure and well one of the ideas was maybe use touchscreen but i do not know in how far it is possible since we have sticking to infrared and the remote cannot receive anything but we might consider that well of course i hope this is all clear to you if you you can use remote like this with all the functions and many functions but well your thumb is a little bigger than this year to be very careful what you push and if you are looking for teletext you will be searching for half an hour from yeah well where is it here i guess and when you have to use something else so just keep it make clear buttons easy to use for example if you want to use a play and back and stop that is very important well this was because of our last discussion if multiple machines are used create easy switch between the machines but it is no longer applying well yeah i prefer to use it only for tv and not to give too many options and and if possible the buttons should give a direct action not 1st select you you just had you wanted to combine more functions in one yeah so you want to keep it simple but i think that if you want to do that then you can not escape the fact that there will be buttons which gives more options than one yes but you have to wake and see how to do we want to use a few options and might not be so original or multipurpose as we thought okay or do we want to use many buttons wing those factors it is maybe an option if you use an lcd or a touchscreen that in the middle are the main keys like displayed on the yeah yeah something like this no yeah something like this okay just in the middle the general functions like play channel switching and then at the top or at the bottom some menus like settings or that you can drop down another question i had do we want to use a menu display on the tv or have to have everything be in remote if you use a memory display on the tv you can simply push a email and then select the options you want to have and press ok so that is my recommendation if you use many options in one button display the menu on the tv and do not use a combination of 2 buttons at the same time or pressing buttons 3 times or 5 seconds it is too complicated for most users i think so too and that is partly because a lot of tvs have different menus and when you have a particular menu at your device it could be that do not correspond to the menu what is actually on tv yeah there will be a problem well you have to keep in mind that several tvs do not even have a menu structure or they have a very simple menu structure so you have to keep in mind that not all our remote will not be able to work on all televisions yes be a considerable problem we have to stick with current technologies and well yeah the restrictions of what it is on the market today yeah you should keep it at this use big clear buttons not too many so maybe we will lose a few options options but i think this is more important especially the important if you want to switch channel change your volume use teletext it has to work at once and more advanced options maybe put it somewhere away on the remote behind a little yeah but there is something like a touchscreen could make more menu pop up or something and yeah if you want to put tv on standby or change the channel that should always be possible to do not force change menu options or switch something well yeah as you already told give some feedback give some feedback if the user is pushing a button you should know if the television or at least remote is reacting and not just the batteries may be low and well my conclusion is less is more keep it simple so maybe we should just ease down on the functionality to to keep it accessible because you all know if there are a lot of functionally on the television some you will never know and never use and therefore it is important if you want to change the volume or the channel that is always accessible and easy and other functions that are not so important well we should consider just not using them or at least putting them somewhere on the remote where they are not in a way for the most important function yeah i think the idea about a touchscreen it is very good because recently i saw a news item on tv about new telephones for elder people they have like a touchscreen with really big pictures on it like call hang up and that is a big advantage i think because on the one end you make the remote control compatible for elder users just by scaling up the pictures or something it is very visual intended what was i to say more this option keep the primary buttons visible yeah make a remote that fits easily in the hand and for some design issues so well put the logo on it and maybe use it in some esthetic form but the important buttons make them always accessible and pushable and clear and maybe use a touchscreen or if that is will become too difficult just like tell you some other telephones maybe it is possible to flip them open and just expand the number of options that are normally visible yeah okay but if you picked the idea the left idea then what is going to be displayed on a touchscreen the extra functions you just see a menu from system functions or teletext functions and you just choose one and then all the options will become available and you just scroll through them would not it be better to just make one big touch screen i want one small touchscreen applet and i will just make let us say 15 buttons on it and we have 3 of those are actually just menus with submenues or sub items self functions then i would like to make a proposal if you make one big touch screen use the same concept as here keep the buttons always available and use the lower part of the touchscreen for the rest yeah i like the ipod idea that we just saw you just have a few selected buttons and a few menus and with this idea you could actually make several you can also improve later on yes i think that would be great okay so you think it will be better to have a kind of total touch screen yeah i think so yeah i would actually go for the thing okay i agree but i think it is very important that always make the same buttons accessible so use just for special options a part of the touchscreen yeah of course and so an elder designer picks up the of an elder parent or grandparent picks up the remote from the little child and who is all in the system functions you have to have the possibility to turn off the tv or to switch the channel without well using all the menu structures to get back to the primary function yeah yeah i had another idea about maybe parental control like building in some kind of pin code which allows parents to switch to all channels but children if children do not know the pin code they can switch to violent channels or that is possible well that actually depends on a television but i think that would be just a simple login well you see the thing is when you buy remote you set the channels the channels are different on each television they are not set in a preset order so if you lock on a remote let us say channel 15 well channel 15 on this television is different than channel 15 on another television so that would be the that would be actually the main concern i think that he means that maybe by some option make sure that remote control on tv match and then after that you can use some inserts and passwords as being a parent that the children cannot use this change the settings of the tv like color and volume and that kind of stuff but maybe if you log in 1st as a parent you address the channels and like 0 it is channel 15 that is a violent channel my kids i do not want my kids to watch yeah yeah they set the priority to only parents yeah for example but make it a separate option in the menu yeah so that is yeah okay but it is played from yeah that is just it is not an added future okay but let us not go too wide about those things that is why we hear those things are nice but i think that is we will later in the stage i have one little question about a total touchscreen or a partial yeah a partial because i think elderly people may be not used to a touchscreen so they want the the normal functions like tail attacks volume changing to be kind of traditional and the other functions the more difficult functions to be maybe on a touchscreen but to keep this as normal as possible to keep it accessible if you display it on an lcd screen with really big numbers you can display it on the old style i do agree because it is just not the same when you touch a touchscreen on when you touch a button but we have to look at what is our target audience we are aiming for younger people they chose it is below 40 that is probably and those young people yeah you saw it in my marketing report they liked the new fancy stuff so yeah touch screen like microsoft already developed something like that for multimedia applications i think we can do that too yeah okay as you can see the minutes from the 2nd meeting this one are done done i have i have added this 4 things from the management board just to keep in mind each time i had a sort of summary on what you told and what you personal think so that can be read out a few things i noticed were moment the main points in this meeting is i think how it is going to look at this meeting is i think how it is going to look with we must keep it simple but have the opportunity to have more options and have them hidden or something so they do not you do not have a big thing full of buttons or and the point that you want to use one controller for hypothetically each television so you must the functions like the menus or the parents or control must be all by the done by the remote control and not by the television i think that is a point with we discussed yeah yeah some of them the menus are not identical for all tvs so you have to display them on the tv you can use when you how do you call it synchronized the remote and the tv yeah but that is not possible then there is always there are always possibilities to change the color the brightness and the volume and well maybe you can look out if there is options that are remote in his memory you can see what kind of tv it is for 0 it is a philips this and this and that and then give the options that are capable of the yeah but you have an opportunity in that yeah but you have an international market range so you have i think a big range well there are universal remotes yeah and they all have functionality for all the tvs so this can not be an extra feature to incorporate the menus it is not too complex to do it well they all have to be programmed to fit your tv and that is a bit of a tricky job i actually use one of those they are kind of troublesome but the thing is when you start building something like this you have to build a receiver into the remotes because in order for the remote to process something from the tv tv like to synchronize and you have to send and receive and that is why no no no you can just just say yeah he means just one other thing with the current remote controls yeah the universal ones yes you have to press in codes you have to press a code for tv you look up i have a phillips age 55 and it says press code 455 and you press code 455 and you press code 455 yeah and the remote and it is displays all your menu options 0 yeah yeah sure that would be cool yeah now we just connect the tv type to a set of options in the memory so that if you yeah like profile so that if you touch in like a 1410 kind of tv the memory pops up the options yeah that would be possible yeah sure i do not think that is that takes a low storage space or something no that would not be just for variables yeah if you look at the manuals from universal remotes there are maybe 3 400 tvs at maximum if you have all of them all the old and new tvs summed up so i think it is possible but on the other hand on the other hand we have 5 minutes to go on the other hand if you have a remote and buy a new tv that is not incorporated in a remote well then you have to buy new one it is very good from marketing new remote maybe or an update software update firmware grade or something from where maybe that is maybe the cup holder ah maybe we can incorporate some kind of usb or a firewire connection so that you can connect it to the pc and download the newest firmware from the internet well not everybody has a pc at home well most people have but not everybody you can go back to the shop and yeah like it is kind of service center yeah maybe something like that you can download it for you or you could actually look at the placeholder you talked about earlier and you could probably make a connection to a telephone line or well already digital information is sent to the the standard tv connections you can see what program is on on the new channel so maybe we can send that information along with standard tv well then then you would be back to the building and receiving yeah yeah if it is actually worth it to build it in we could actually look into it but i do not know it would be bringing more costs with it and yeah i think it is most cheap or cheapest to just do the updates at the surf center at the shop when you buy a tv you just ask it is not a lot of work just one docking station where you put it in press start bling blink update it yeah that would be best you do not buy a tv every week no no in the meanwhile for which one are we going my mistake that is vote that one or my vote goes out to the right here your vote my vote yeah okay and your vote well i was doubting about which one to take but you have convinced me that if you display buttons about the same as they would look the same as they would look on a normal remote or elderly people will know what to do and also like clapping like device that opens open too difficult not too difficult maybe it is easier to break it yeah break it i do not know that is it is very sensitive yeah like my telephone it is sensitive too okay well it is almost at the end we have now a lunch break finally yeah after the lunch break it is back to individual work once again 30 minutes i will put my minutes i have updated them so they are updated in the shared folder 2 30 minutes 30 minutes 0 minutes the specific instructions for the next meeting you all will receive at the email i do not think i can say much about it so wait for your email and hopefully you get it done in the 30 minutes and i will see you after the lunch break in the 30 minutes one question how late do we have to get back be back here well 30 minutes a quarter to one yeah 30 minutes of lunch break 30 minutes lunch break yeah okay i thought 45 45 yeah well then would it be 10 clock yeah well we ask our personal coach yeah okay thank you thank you it was a very good session i think we are is it possible to store this on the share 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