hello yes i made it english from now on just kidding drawing or yeah just testing yeah english so annoying break is over ooh it works whoo spicy spicy where are are all the other presentations i just put it in the in the shared folder so it should be yeah i think so the conceptual or yeah conceptual design ah what or whatever does it because i see only my own presentation yeah no no no can you go back one cause it has to be powerpoint pre yeah components design that is it this i will just put it in there so he is coming i did get a bit more done than the last time cause i knew that i did not have time so i just copy and paste everything into the or not okay 0 okay ah i can not cut and paste it into the other folder but ah she you can look at the final report cause i have to record everything we are deciding and such so i am trying to write it down between everything else move to meeting room sometimes i have these pop ups or these sounds and there is nothing there yeah 0 and also with i do not know how to use powerpoint so it takes me forever to get something done with it yeah me too i i have got the same problem as well yeah yeah yeah here we go again welcome we have again 3 presentations and then we have to decide on what concepts the mobile phone has to f the remote control has to support thi so who wants go yes who wants to start yes me 1st again or yeah yeah sure 0 no does not matter yeah no problem alright did you open it already or no no ah ah yes so welcome to the marketing presentation once again this time about trendwatching well there has been inv investigation again in the in the remote control market it shows a number of developments i will address them in a moment fashion watch watchers have detected the trends for young public because that is our public well fruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing shoes and furniture and the feel of the material is expected to be spongey so the developments i will address them 0 yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks of fresh bright colors so to give you an idea well the developments development one well most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look and feel instead of the current functional look and feel well fancy stands for an original look and feel of the case and the interface and the 2nd most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological innovative well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls i think we pretty much covered that with our screen and and speech recognition so i do not expect that to be a problem sound yeah yeah and the 3rd development is that the remote control should be easy to use well the 1st aspect was twice as important as the 2nd which was twice as important as the 3rd aspect so that kind of gets you this ratios so fancy look and feel is the most important point of attention so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material well technolog technological innovation we have covered that pretty much i guess and easy to use i do not think that will be problem so my point of attention is especially this part that this will be a crux yeah so that was the marketing presentation i had only one document left and shall i go 1st yeah so i no i i do not mi i do not mind that is so kind of this yeah yeah sure yeah do you want to go 1st okay so a k a small example no yeah kind of this this look nothing about the buttons but just sponge kind of thing and and some fruit and colors i dunno yeah just made a quick design cool it is better than than my drawing alright yeah you are just the user interface alright yeah okay but i have to design the components yeah layout yeah 0 no yeah okay yeah it is okay you probably opened it yeah true f 5 f 5 alright so i am dealing with the components design let us see i used some design examples we had from similar products and i used possibilities from our manufacturing department about current components which will have to be implemented in the design that is why i had to wanted to go 1st well they gave me an idea about what people want we are f mainly focusing on this group but i want to make the distinction clear i could not drag the pictures into the the slides so s so i do not have examples of how it looks like but it comes down to what you what you think we should do with the spongey and the fruity looking type if you the young dynamic people want soft primary colors which looks like fruits you know you can and shapes that are curved and not solid straight lines anymore so this basically yeah goes on to what you were mentioning earlier there is a lot of factors involved in choosing the components there is a lot of options that we have to discuss for example the energy source we have 4 types the basic battery we have a hand dynamo which we yeah we dutch refer to it as the kneipgatt yeah the kinetic provision of energy which means if you move the thing if you shake it which will be fun for toddlers right if they want to use the yeah and of course solar cells but i dunno how we would use that into the design of the actual product wi an indoors so my yeah also also in you know countries where there is n is not much light like in scandinavia 0 yeah okay calculator is can do it they would not be y able to use it half of the year you know yeah yeah so that is not cool either so for the a case there is the traditional uncurved flat hard case single curved which means that it has curves in one dimension or the double curved i was not able to finish my personal preferences sheet but well you know that we will have to go for the double curved cause it is daring and different from what we have now yeah the case materials well we have all kinds of hard materials like the the hard plastic the wood and the titanium i would definitely go for rubber cause it fits most in what people want to see nowadays yeah poo this is a lot of text i was not able to organize this yet we have yeah several interface designs we can use a scroll buttons for the menus but we already kind of decided to go for the f for the pushbuttons for the the arrow buttons yeah pushbuttons yeah so that is not really interesting yeah electronics yeah maybe we want to decide on what electronics to use the advanced chip i think is easiest to implement for the production cause they they can print it better yeah i think this is about it yeah i was working on some per personal preferences i 1st chose for the battery cause yeah i am traditional and that is the most obvious easiest choice to go to but i really think that we should maybe think about the kinetic energy where you have to move the thing to be able to use it yeah yeah yeah as an optional feature yeah or combine both with a with one i guess we can only choose one i think you can only fit one source of energy on the yeah maybe we okay i can imagine that the kinetic type energy source would be more expensive to make but it is more longlasting that the people do not have to ever buy batteries again yeah yeah i did not receive any info and it is more fun and it is also more fun yeah i always chuck my remote control around so yeah just playing with it and especially when the material is rubber yeah it can be done i mean you can not harm it so it is a perfect combination i guess s yeah it is safe and throw it yeah y exactly you do not have to be scared about bouncing it off the g floor and breaking it or whatever yeah okay so that is the end of it yeah so go ahead kay next so double curved is like this this this or no it means curved in 2 dimensions so w single curved let us say would be a b square box but then with curves on one dimension yeah and double curved would means that it would have curves curves in every direction also in in height yeah okay like 3 d okay yeah can we 11 very important thing i was yeah thinking about is the speech option yeah we were going to use that yeah yeah so yeah yeah that is one thing which i am not sure of how to implement it into the remote control design well the visual representation is not there with speech but you can no okay but it has to be combined with with the menu for functions and yeah so okay just yeah i think you can just match the speech commands with the functions that are already present yeah okay so i do not think you have to design anything else for that yeah with the program but do j do we do the speech just for the basic options for the simple buttons both for for everything also for the advanced options yeah okay we have this very basic trendy design everybody says it so that is what is yeah yeah in the in the last meeting we we were yeah putting the the simple and the advanced options separated that is yeah obvious yeah pressing the the menu option will disable all other options on your remote control and only the the l c d panel will light up and then you can only change the yeah the options and and the and the buttons that you need to control it i guess yeah yeah yeah design has to be very attractive but that is your your op your yeah you have to delete this but this is the the the simple layout yeah display on the upper side with the the menu button and maybe a some sort of cancel button or save button that would be the back i am the back yeah back and okay back and okay back and okay yeah you did read the minutes i wrote what you did read the minutes i wrote a little bit i think but not not everything w i 0 okay cause i pretty much summed up all the buttons there were okay so 0 i did not read that i hate doing work for nothing but but this is the the basic design for the for the m yeah for the buttons i wanted to to categorize everything with a speech display yeah sound everything you you noted in your minutes every pushbutton has has its own led light so you can yeah change m make it more trendy for for younger people and if there are older people they wanted more yeah more luxurous so that is an a also an option that was it that was it yeah okay again ugh okay so what we have to decide is what kind of components do we use energy source chip type case type and user interface but i did not see a clear distinction between these so i think what we have is okay so we only we already decided that kinetic would be the choice for energy no the case would be doubly curved rubber material so and rubber rubber material rubber material and that is the only thing we have left yeah we need the the chip on print to be able to support the the screen and and f audio function 0 okay no it is easy so that is is that is that the advanced chip yeah advanced chip yeah wow otherwise you would have a simple chip just for pressing buttons okay yeah but we need more alright kinetic i am just thinking this is not my department but i i am not sure what this is going to cost to be able to m too double curved i did not get any info on this so so cause we need to sell it for €25 a piece yeah yeah that is going to be difficult huh the cost of making it should be 125 i have total here yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i do not know i did not get any information about that so we are going to produce it in china so it is no problem yeah child labor man we love it yeah so it is cheap who does not let us see is there a new thing well the interface type supplements yeah the interface maybe can it is it is quite difficult because we we have not got all the options yeah ooh no do you have a picture of doubly curved case and could you put that in the group folder let me see of the project folder wait a sec if you go to your homepage or something you should yeah i am going there now get your own information inspiration i got my fresh and fyoo fruity picture also over there so ah you did not draw it yourself well no ah too less time yeah maybe it is yeah also the menu yeah that that w yeah this is the the menu i was looking at yeah yeah i was thinking of that also with with a with a arrow maybe it is easier yeah arrow arrow yeah so that indicates that there is an menu under that menu yeah yeah yeah perfect so yeah maybe it is easier if you guys come over here is the target group s yeah s see this is the the the standard traditional type where the form yeah serves the function you know 0 yeah yeah sure it is like really basic but this m is more appealing to old people and we do not want that yeah yeah this is what we are looking for and th that means curved in both dire dire dimensions 0 okay not only like this but it has to be exactly i see yeah also like this so you can hold it it has to be kind of instead of the playstation the module it has to be like the the game cube you know where your thumbs would be laying in the instrument and it has to be nice to hold yeah but it has also to it it has also to be luxurous for for yeah rich people and th this looks a little bit like like for only for children it ha the children is story yeah i have got it yeah but that is that is the the problem yeah the dilemma actually so distinction yeah cause we want to appeal to the to the young public with fancy with flashy colors and with a lot of shape and yeah and the and the rubber it it will look cheap always you know with the yeah the color yeah okay but the the colors you you can make it make the colors with leds beneath the the buttons if you press a button and you can disable the the color leds for for people that do not like it there is mobile phones in which you can change the color also of the lights yeah maybe we should consider this function to customize it and so i mean kids can make it look more flashy with different kinds of colors and people who want something you know different yeah different or more design they can go for one color like for example this photo th camera camera yeah cool s underwater yeah yeah submarine personally i think it is really ugly well yeah just give me the thing that it is inside there maybe i am too old for this stuff yeah very cheap cheap look yeah but this this the is for the yeah yeah okay so those i think are all my 0 ah yeah bright colors yeah also a kind of rubber and this is this is with the curved that i mean yeah that is singly curved yeah okay yeah that should be nice well we could make a compromise between that but i do not know if it is worth the effort a compromise between what instead of doubly curved we take a single curved so to appeal a little more to the all the public so s this this would be single curved yeah there is only in in this dimension yeah like this yeah so curvy or not also yeah so we keep it singly c single curved then yeah exactly exactly yeah that would be an option i do not know what you think yeah i think the i mean our aim is to make something different right to make something new yeah i would go for the double curved okay and i i am i am thinking you know a drawing palette where you have the shape for your thumb yeah i would agree so it kind of holds nicely something like that yeah but if you if you make it more curved we we can make more and more options for buttons yeah well this is really your decision but if you have it have it in your hand you you you are not only yeah you do not need one dimension but you can use other dimensions for pressing the the buttons yeah as well you can make a trigger button or something like that yeah something to shoot at your television yeah or that that is the confirmation button or something that you scroll with your thumb with the arrows and then confirm yeah that is yeah that would be a nice way to use it but i mean yeah i am thinking big already and we need something that well that that you can able to use in one hand i think different stands out or 0 yeah a one hand solution yeah so from top view it looks kinda like this but from the side you you can have it also in a kind of shape maybe because the the screen is on top you can have can turn it maybe to switch from buttons to interface if you turn it a little maybe you can c have this kind of shape a little upwards so that the screen is more 0 yeah least you can easily see it towards yourself so you can easily see your screen how about well well you have it in your hand so it is a kind of an angle from your eyes to the screen so then you have double double curved in some way so this this is so the screen is positioned over here 0 something like that and the buttons are more well it is very thick now but yeah i understand what you mean that is that is how about we do a a pop up screen like the laptop if you can flip so that the only the simple functions will be visible at 1st yeah that that you can press it and then it comes up and then if you want or so you have a the the side view yeah something like that but then the side view can be straight if you have a pop up screen but i dunno if that is too expensive so and you want to be able to i mean maybe it is too much yeah make this no like i would draw it like this let us say this is the side view that you have a a screen that will come up here and can go down that way if you know what i mean okay so that it would come up like that yeah okay so the buttons are on top here and you flip it over that way yeah or preferably even keep the simple buttons here and then under the screen even you could put more more advanced buttons yeah 0 the advanced buttons 0 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah right right that is the the more advanced options were for the for the menu yeah that is good idea yeah yeah yeah but you you want okay f for the l c d menu right yeah you just want to hide them all so w w the 0 yeah no not all because you need most of them the arrow buttons but you can hide the okay and the back button yeah yeah yeah and the menu button also because when you flip it open and you can maybe even drop the menu button because maybe if you flip it open it will auto activate amauto automatically yeah 0 activate and th the yeah so okay b but you have t you need some button to flip this open why you could just make it mechanical true true but you can make a yeah you can make a trigger here you know a simple with a yeah yeah and it says menu and it flips open and then you have the buttons to control it in combination with your that is but it is it is not yeah it is not very very strong yeah if you drop it one time exactly true it c it can go open well yeah the the idea of it was is that because you close it you cover the l c d screen and it will not be vulnerable to scratches or whatever if you cover it with rubber an adv an adv and it will be covered in some kind of thin rubber layer or something like that okay and exactly yeah so it can bounce exactly we just have to make sure that the closing mechanism will not break yeah it is very no it is very strong th it is very solid yeah yeah okay so that that may work yeah that actually will offer some extra protection for the okay but then we still have the the the thing of the the the shape yeah yeah yeah i was thinking if if you have your hand it this is your th what kind of harder yeah the lower part does not work i guess so maybe you should try it over there okay if this is your thumb and this is your hand like that with your wrist that you that it would be kind of shape like this you know so it is easier to hold in your hand to y f but when you are left handed that is that is a problem yeah yeah yeah of course yeah then w then you would have to to make it like this maybe can design 2 versions yeah but that is that is very expensive like like you drew here yeah and maybe th then make this thicker also than the center give it i would give it a female shape but yeah and ergonomical shape yeah anyway yeah yeah the female shape yeah with 2 obviously yeah we we could make some some rubber some rubber yeah mouse with which you can change and so if you make it more appealing to guys i mean 0 yeah some k esk yeah yeah yeah but but that is optional for later i guess i mean we have to make okay yeah yeah but we have hardware inside which is so it has to have some sort of basic shape some yeah yeah we we better so choose one yeah yeah and also the screen you cannot mold it you know kind of thing no no no no yeah so okay we should better choose one sh one shape okay yeah but that is the kind of the idea so it lays good in the hand and then on on the side with with your thumb and then you can you can place the screen here which can come you you can you can use yeah you can use the button option yeah so the keywords are primary co colors spongey and but then i w i would spongey i would do the arrows here kind of thing spongey can be reached by means of those buttons and the simple buttons here so that yeah yeah yeah and and the and the control thngs in the middle the the the arrows i y eah that is what i mean no the arrow is over here the arrows over here and here the s simple yeah yeah and then numbers yeah buttons okay yeah alright i think that it is a nice design pretty nice design yeah it is cool yeah it looks pretty fancy yeah or do we want to make its shape look like a banana or something i dunno yeah that is bananas wierd shape and other fruits also so it is better to have some sort of basic print and then a fruit print in some primary colors yeah yeah we could make i do not know what what colors should the basic print be like like some soft green or something orange or something or and then or blue dark blue or 0 yeah yeah dark blue and then and then very bright a yellow banana an orange we should use yeah a green apple stuff like that with very bright tones i guess yeah w we need very primary colors like bright red bright yellow so you have something like yeah yeah yeah but the primary colors w we can create with the with the leds on the on the remote control yeah yeah okay yeah if you we yeah if you make it just a yeah bl give it a blue color then it is just a neutral color also for the for the more yeah for the people huh cool that does not really work to draw i guess no it is 0 what is this yeah it is text right n no you have to exit hm you could also make line with yeah so that is yeah 2 hours further thickness 0 so that is blue 0 wh why not go for the 20 yeah yeah that is what i call painting y so that is that is a dark blue basic color i guess yeah yeah and then on top of that it is pretty nice and then 0 some yellow yeah with some some yellow banana banana color like and how about some some flashing standby lights like you have on the samsung well i do not like to call brands phones the you know that cause i remember from one of our 1st meetings that people lose their remote controls often yeah so it not not only in in the colors of the leds that we want something to keep it visible at all times or how do you mean yeah if you if flashing color so you can not lose it basically some some yeah yeah exactly well i think it is a bit too much but maybe a yeah yeah an orange well alright well this is more like purple i guess but it is should be more real dark blue yeah yeah so the contrast with the with the fruit objects is pretty high yeah yeah so yeah that would be a nice nice device i guess and which which color should should i give the the display or who i mean the the color of the background of the display yeah yeah ah well i do not guess it s has to be a 60665000 color so yeah too expensive and then you can use yellow or semething why not aye so just just a a blue blue backlight or something like that yeah yeah green is too old fashioned but blue blue is okay as long as you loo use high contrast between the the background and the foreground color j yeah maybe a maybe a white a white backlight so that people with with like this white backlight and dark dark letters yeah yeah whatever which is visible yeah i know you sh you should test it under under a light conditions i mean it is hard to tell i dunno yeah and also for people who are a bit colourblind colourblind yeah yeah true no so that is mostly red and green i believe which which color should the buttons be that is adjustable woah why adjustable all all buttons yeah or not okay no that is how we are going to make it more trendy or is it too expensive but maybe i mean they have to they have to have some color right it is difficult and if the background is very dark blue blue maybe green but do not we want to make the background the the bright colo colors so th the total of the thing is very bright yeah you can like the pictures i showed you guys those things were all like like bright red bright red flashy yeah flashy so more like bzz does not work very well more like this color yeah something like that something that stands out more and then then yellow and orange and red objects on it or something yeah but then then again which color should the buttons be the the press buttons should they be white or black or red maybe and it it looks quite cheap that color i think black it is it is not the green yeah yeah but it is pretty fresh on the other side why i dunno yeah so it is actually a pretty trendy color at the moment it is it is trendy okay yeah but my couch is in that color ooh yeah well it works pretty well yeah and then time was up not yet do you get a pop up if we yeah within 5 minutes yeah that you have 5 minutes left or alright y left yeah left and then i have to kick you out so something like this yeah that should be pretty nice color but maybe the buttons all buttons in red is maybe a bad contrast for colourblind people yeah yeah no that is actu because the of the green but the but the buttons have their own leds or not yeah they have leds but they have a color red and green are actually the b the easiest to discriminate even for colourblind yeah they will see one of each as gray yeah but if you use green on blue those kind of colors will look the same okay okay i think so red buttons are okay i think so okay that that is a default setting you can make them red the the red buttons yeah but i think you need to keep in mind that the leds are just extra light how do you mean yeah they they do not determine the color that much i think okay yeah i i was think about a red red leds and blue leds and cause you have to print on them you have a background no that is that is too busy i guess yeah each number is transparent yeah partly but you have to print on the number or the the sign okay so you can not change the color so you better bet better better keep the led and the button itself in the same color i guess okay yeah so just an extra bit of light you can what we should do i think is is make kind of a see through plastic button with one colored led behind it bit of light and attention bit of feedback yeah yeah yeah yeah so that the whole button will shine as the color the and if you think about easy to use buttons we have to well we have to make it the shape so that it is easy to hold f for both hands but also that you can reach the buttons with your thumb if you hold the machine yeah okay with do not mean to discourage you but basically you 2 are going to work on the smartboard next 30 minutes to design something so ah right alright and the you will do the evaluation of the product yeah which we do not have yet yeah about so wh how should i do that yeah i do not know 0 okay you probably get a mail or you you or you send it to me or just because you are going to design it on this board right yeah once they are finished yeah yeah but maybe you can do the evaluation you do not have to evaluate yet but you can make a procedure which to follow yeah i do not know i i probably get instruction on that how to do that so i make another presentation i guess yeah yeah i kn i know what is going to happen in in yeah so about yeah you have the basic idea i have a basic idea and you 2 are going to do this yeah so we are going to work here look and feel and on this sketchboard yeah yeah good luck alright thanks yeah alright so that is so i make new page and be creative yeah alright but we have to do it at this moment after th this meeting yeah you have 30 minutes 30 minutes okay then we have to see something which we can yeah yeah alright ah so this is basically the what what we are thinking about show to the management yeah shall we make a new i would yeah yeah l let us just delete all these or yeah yeah next yeah i just make a new one 0 next yeah alright 0 and save this board huh just save it yeah i will just i will just keep it there yeah okay but just press save and yeah it will be fine on the left s so yeah sorry you can also include clip art okay yeah current color so if you will rather draw in paint or something so okay shall we make some outline sketches of the basic shape 1st yeah because i i and then after that we can make the user inter interface then look yeah cause i have to focus on the on the basic look and feel design this yeah yeah so how it is going to look and you have to think how we are going to put the screen in it and those kind of things pretty accurate so if i am drawing and you think okay i am not going to be able to put a screen in there you have to correct 0 we skip this i guess sound button press yep do you mind if i draw in black then yeah you can also include it it is not much work for normal sketches light only button user ca user interaction 0 no it is it is okay so we kind of want the girlish yeah that is included yeah okay yeah so the pl the plastic plastic buttons also help because of they are only lit during interaction figure i am not so good at drawing so excuse me well it is a good thing that the buttons are not well that they are plastic because then you can light up the light on when when they are usable yeah yeah no maybe you should draw it very large like this yeah but this part is not functioning properly yeah sensitive 0 right how do we or insert text erase i dunno maybe just start typing it is a bit large 0 that is a bit big yeah you also do the other sides not only on the front si the top side but also the the side view yeah ex exactly l let us make 1st the the the all the views the the front view side view and the back view i thought for the side view that the w the basic section would be rather a bit thicker than the middle jesus what do i write down yeah why can not i work here this is much easier much easier yeah where you are holding it with your cause your fingers have to fit underneath and yeah yeah the middle has to be very small so you can have it in your hand i do not see a sign that the meeting is over yet but exactly but the but the upper side has to be a bit more like that i think no so i just work here a few minutes yeah yeah the display we yeah we can put a display do not you think so the display we will put in here the basic functions in here where it is most reachable yeah the the the arrow functions the th exactly yeah yeah 0 this is hard what do do not have to draw it exactly do we no it is it is it is okay wait let me try it one more time maybe i have it is easier if i draw it in once okay of course it will become way more ugly you can make it m larger maybe it is easier to to draw yeah this will take forever it is fun to work with this pen so larger 0 yeah that is that is the basic idea wrong one and yeah yeah so side 5 minutes left before the meeting ends kay other views alright yeah only if you are going to put buttons on the side of the unit yeah that is the question let us fill i fill in the buttons later but we we yeah so this is going to be from the i is it if if this is from the side woah from yeah yeah from the steady sorry because there the screen goes up like that right yeah so then it is like this or that is not convenient because then you have the screen like this and look like the it is better to have it somewhat like this yeah or does it flip all the way yeah i am i am the the idea is that it has to flip up to here may maybe it is it is easier to to integrate the the the l c d screen just into this this bubble okay because it do does not have to flip then because we have en enough space for for making a an l c d yeah yeah yeah yeah because here it is better to to have this like this i guess and then flip it like this true but why why do we need the flipping you can adjust the angle to which it flips so it can also from this angle it can flip all the way up to there okay yeah you can flip it up to there if you want yeah so w yeah but we still keep the flipping mechanism think so yeah yeah we keep the flip keep the flip live yeah because i think it will feel weird if you would make this smaller and this bigger or something that i dunno yeah the the shape is okay but yeah i do not see the the yeah why why we should use the the flipping mechanism i thought it would be cool yeah because we okay yeah it is it is for for for more trendy yeah but maybe yeah but maybe we we should then because we have enough space h here we got the basic functions the the arrow yeah button yeah there the middle sh sh should not we integrate it yeah and then h we sh and then like i 0 th doh come on so this is the shape 0 it has not it does not aim so well okay but the screen is a bit lower because if it falls on the other side it does not fall on the screen yeah then it is so there is a layer of rubber on the side yeah yeah yeah definitely so no flipping but just no no flipping or you wanted the flipping so no flipping yeah i guess but i mean most votes count right but if you if you if you drop it it it just breaks and it has to be very strong because of the yeah kind of throwing and the kinetics it is shaking yeah 0 we better make we better make it like this yeah true true yeah eventually yeah just light on top yeah if you if you are going for the kinetics and it is also for the for the children it is yeah for people not 16 years yeah safer they are responsible enough to have a mobile phone so also to to deal with their remote control but there are more yeah okay that the target group yeah okay that is true yes okay yeah well yeah i am just thinking totally different designs also i just ended the meeting you 2 go design okay wi remember that the weird pocketphone thingy which looked like kind of a gameboy 0 by the way yeah maybe we should try something like that i thought up a name for our product but yeah yeah 0 right yeah it is called the real remote ooh with a copyright sign after real alright yeah the real remote alright yeah i like it okay so maybe you can include that somewhere good this can go yeah we should work in our own room right or not yeah 0 yeah we have to f include that in our design as well i do not see any power cables here so let us see yeah yes what the hell is that i think it is the sensors kay see you 2 in half an hour okay good luck yep okay that is the side ah it is it is okay but do we want options on the on the side with the with the buttons yeah or just leave it i think we do could make an a volume button scroll volume button yeah or j or also scrolling for the m yeah for menu yeah or i dunno we w kind of wanted to stick with the yeah no yeah yeah i am just thinking if we i we want to make something different right so the with the scroll is is more futuristic than the standard arrow buttons yeah i think yeah you are going to design it so
so i am i am hello hey hey did you have your presentation made it yes i made it english from now on drawing or just testing yeah it is going to be in your life the all the stress just kidding 0 yeah english so annoying the break is over ooh it works wu spicy spicy where are all the other presentations i just put it in the shared folder so conceptual or yeah i think so yeah conceptual design or whatever because i see only my own presentation no no can you go back one yeah because it has to be powerpoint yeah components design that is it i just put it in there he is coming i did get a bit more done than the last time because i knew that i did not have time so i just copy and paste everything into it i can kind of base it into the other folder if you want to left you can look at the final report because i have to record everything we are deciding and such move to me i am trying to write it down between everything else sometimes i have these pop ups or these sounds and there is nothing there yeah me too also with i do not know how to use powerpoint so it takes me forever to get something down here you have got the same problems yeah yeah here we go again welcome we have again 3 presentations and then we have to decide on what concepts the mobile phone has to further remote control has to support so who wants to go yes who wants to start me 1st again or yeah sure does not matter alright did you open it already or no no so welcome to the marketing presentation once again this time about trend watching well there has been an investigation again in the remote control market it shows a number of developments i will address them in a moment fashion watchers have detected the trends for young public because that is our public well fruit and vegetables will be the most important team for clothing shoes and furniture and the feel of the material is expected to be spongy the developments i will address them 0 yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks are fresh bright colors so to give you an id well the development one the most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look and feel instead of the current functional look and feel well fancy stands for an original look and feel of the case and the interface the 2nd most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological innovative well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls i think we pretty much covered that with our screen and speed recognition so i do not expect that to be a problem the 3rd development is that remote controls should be easy to use well the 1st aspect was twice as important as the 2nd aspect which was twice as important as the 2nd aspect which was twice as important as the 3rd aspect so that kind of gives you these ratios fancy look and feel is the most important point of attention so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the sponge material well technological innovation we have covered that pretty much i guess and easy to use i do not think that would be a problem so my point of attention is especially this part that this will be correct so that was the marketing presentation i had only one document left should i go 1st yeah i do not mind so kind of this so a small example kind of this nothing about the buttons but just sponge kind of thing and some fruit and colors i do not know i just made a quick design cool all right you are just the user interface no components yeah layout yeah it is okay you probably opened it yeah true f 5 all right so i am dealing with the component design let us see i use some we used some design examples we had from similar products and i used possibilities from our manufacturing department about current components which will have to be implemented in the design that is why i wanted to go 1st well they gave me an idea about what people want we are mainly focusing on this group but i want to make the distinction clear i could not drag the pictures into the slide so i do not have examples of how it looks like but it comes down to what you think we should do with the spongy and the fruity looking type if the young dynamic people want soft primary colors which looks like fruits you know and shapes that are curved and not solid straight lined anymore anymore so this basically goes on to what you were mentioning earlier there is a lot of factors involved in choosing the components there is a lot of options that we have to discuss for example the energy source we have 4 types the basic battery we have a hand dynamo which we dutch refer to it as the knaipkath the kinetic provision of the energy which means if you move the thing if you shake it which will be fun for toddlers right if they want to use the and of course solar cells but i do not know how we would use that into the design of the actual product so indoors my yeah also also in you know countries where there is not much light like in scandinavia they would not be able to use it half of the year you know so that is not cool either so for the case there is the traditional uncarved flat hard case single curved which means that it has curves in one dimension or the double curves i was not able to finish my personal preferences sheet but well in all we will have to go for the double curved because it is daring and different from what we have now the case materials well we have all kinds of hard materials like the the hard plastic the wood and the titanium i would definitely go for rubber because it fits most in what people want to see nowadays this is a lot of text i was not able to organize this yet we have several interface designs we can use scroll buttons for the menus but we already kind of decided to go for the push buttons for the arrow buttons button so that is not really interesting electronics yeah maybe we want to decide on what electronics to use the advanced chip i think is easiest to implement for the production because they they can print it better yeah i think this is this is about it yeah i was working on some personal preferences i 1st chose for the battery because yeah i am traditional and that is the most obvious easiest choice to go to but i really think that we should maybe think about the kinetic energy where you have to move the thing to be able to use it additional feature or combine both with one i guess we maybe we only fit one source of energy i can imagine that the kinetic type energy source would be more expensive to make but it is more long lasting that the people do not have to ever buy batteries again and it is more fun and it is also more fun yeah i always chuck my remote control around so just playing with it and especially when the material is rubber it can be done i mean you can not harm it so it is a perfect combination you do not have to be scared about bouncing it off the floor and breaking it or whatever yeah so that is the end of it yeah so so double curve is like this this this no it means curved in 2 dimensions so a single curved let us say would be a square box but then with curves on one dimension and double curved would mean that it would have curves in every direction like 3 d one very important thing i was thinking about the speech option speech option we were going to use that yeah yeah so yeah that is one thing which i am not sure of how to implement it into the design well the visual representation is not there with speech it has to be combined with the menu for functions and yeah so okay yeah i think you can just match the speech commands with the features that are already present so we do not think you have to design anything else for that do the speech just for the basic options for the simple buttons both for everything also for advanced options okay yeah this is all very basic a trend of design everybody says it so that is what yeah yeah in the last meeting we were we were putting the simple and the advanced options separated it is obvious pressing the menu option will disable all other options on your remote control and only the lcd panel will light up and then you can only change the and the buttons that you need to control it i guess yeah design has to be very attractive it has to be very attractive but that is your your your your yeah yeah you have to delete this but this is the simple layout display on the upper side with the menu button and maybe some sort of cancel button or save button that would be the back yeah back and okay back and okay yeah you did read the minutes i wrote what you did read the minutes i wrote i wrote a little bit i think but not everything because i pretty much summed up all the buttons they were so 0 i did not read that i hate doing work for nothing but this is the basic design for the yeah for the buttons i wanted to categorize everything with speech display yeah sound everything you know that you noted in your you know noted in your minutes every push button has its own lead light so you can change make it more trendy for younger people and if there are older people they want it more yeah more luxurious so that is an awesome option that was it that was it ok and then i am again okay so what we have to decide is what kind of components do we use energy source chip type case type and user interface but i did not see a clear distinction between this so i think what we have is okay so we only we already decided that kinetic would be the choice for energy no the case would be doubly curved rubber material and that is the only thing we have left yeah we need the the chip on print to be able to support the screen and audio function so that is is that he advanced chip yeah yeah otherwise you would have a simple chip just for pressing buttons but we need more alright i am just thinking this is not my department but i am not sure what this is going to cost to be able to no i did not get any info on this because we need to sell it for €25 apiece that is going to be difficult huh the cost of making it should be 12 and a half yeah yeah i do not know i did not get any information about that we are going to produce it in that china so it is no problem yeah child labor man we love it yeah so it does not let us see let us see what is a new thing well the interface type of supplements yeah the interface maybe can yeah it is it is quite difficult because we have not got all the options no do you have a picture of a doubly curved case and could you put it in the group folder let me see what is that if you go to the homepage or something you should yeah i am going there now get your own information inspiration i got my fresh and fruity picture also well you did not enjoy it yourself no ah 2 last time maybe it is menu yeah that was the menu i was looking at yeah maybe it is easier with a arrow so that indicates that there is a menu under that menu yeah perfect so that is cool maybe it is easier if you guys come over here see this is the standard traditional type where the forum serves the function you know it is like really basic but this is more appealing to old people and we do not want that this is what we are looking for and that means curves in both dimensions not only like this but it has to be exactly it has to be kind of instead of the playstation module it has to be like the game cube you know where your thumbs would be laying in the instrument and it has to be nice to hold it has also to be luxurious for rich people this looks a little bit like only for children yeah but that is the that is the problem the dilemma actually because we want to appeal to the to the young public with fancy with flashy colors and with a lot of shape and yeah and the rubber it it will look cheap always you know with the colors you can make it make the colors with the leds beneath the buttons if you press a button and you can disable the the core leads for people that do not like it there is mobile phones in which you can change the color also of the lights maybe we should consider this function to customize it and so i mean kids can make it look more flashy with different kinds of colors and people want something you know different or more design they can go for one color like for example this photo camera yeah cool underwater yeah super rined yeah personally i think it is really ugly just give me the thing that it is inside there but yeah then maybe i am too old for this stuff yeah yeah okay so those i think are all my 0 yeah bright colors yeah also kind of rubber this is with the curve that i mean yeah that is singly curve yeah it should be nice well we could make a compromise between that but i do not know if it is worth the worth the effort you compromise between what instead of doubly carved we take a single curved so to appeal a little more to the this will be a single curve huh yeah this is only in this dimension yeah so curve here and not in the eyes exactly so we keep a single curve then that would be an option i do not know what you think i think that i mean our aim is to make something different right to make something new i would go for the double curved and i am i am thinking you know a drawing palette where you have the shape for your thumb so it kind of holds nicely something like that well this is really your decision we can make more and more options for buttons if you have it in your hand you are not only yeah you do not need one dimension but you can use other dimensions for pressing the button yeah as well you can make a trigger button or something like that something to shoot at your television yeah or that is the confirmation button or something that you scroll with your thumb with the arrows and then confirm that would be a nice way to use it but i mean yeah i am thinking big already and we need something that you can able to use in one hand i think 0 yeah in one hand so from top view looks kind of it looks kind of like this but from the side you can have it also in a kind of shape maybe because the screen is on top you can have from buttons to interface maybe you can have this kind of shape a little upwards so that the screen is more toeert yourself so you can easily see your screen how about you have it in your hand so it is kind of an angle from your eyes to the screen so then you have double carved in some way so the screen is positioned over here 0 something like that and the buttons are more well it is very thick now but yeah i understand what you mean how about we do a pop up screen like the laptop so that only the simple functions will be visible at 1st yeah that you can press it and then it comes up or yeah something like that so you have the side view but then the side view can be straight if you have a pop up screen but i do not know if that is too expensive yeah it is too much you want to be able to make this no like i would draw it like this let us say this is the side view that you have that you have a screen that will come up here and can go down that way you know what i mean so that it will come up like that okay so the buttons are on top here and you flip it over that yeah or preferably even keep the simple buttons here and then under the screen even you can put more advanced buttons right yeah that is good yeah yeah that is for the lcd menu the menu okay yeah so hide them all yeah not all because you need most of them the arrow buttons but you can hide the okay in the back yeah and the menu button also because when you flip it open yeah you can maybe even drop the menu button because maybe if you flip it open it will activate the mode up till mid cliff so okay but you have to you need some button to flip this right open to but you can make it yeah you can make a trigger here yeah a simple yeah and it says menu and it flips open and then you have the buttons to control in combination with your it is not very strong if you drop it one time true it can go open yeah the idea of it was is that because you close it you cover the lcd screen and it will not be vulnerable to scratches or whatever and it will be covered in some kind of thin rubber there or something like that exactly exactly we just have to make sure that the closing mechanism will not break it is very solid yeah so that may work that actually will offer some extra protection we still have the thing of the the shape yeah yeah i was thinking if if you have your hand if this is your harder yeah the lower part does not work i guess so maybe you should try it over there okay if this is your thumb and this is your hand like that with your wrist that that you that it would be kind of shape like this you know so it is easier to hold in your hand to yeah yeah of course then you would have to yeah to make it like this like you drew here yeah and maybe then make this thicker also than the center give it i would give it a female shape but yeah yeah the female shape yeah obviously make some make more appealing to guys yeah the malls which you can change 0 yeah so if you yeah but that is optional for later i guess i mean we have hardware inside which is so it has to have some sort of basic shape yeah we better and also the screen you cannot mold it you know okay we should better choose 11 shape yeah but that is kind of the idea so it lays good in the hand and then on the side with your thumb you can place the screen here you can you can use the button so the key works are primary colors but then i would spongy i would do the arrows here kind of thing spongy can be reached by means of and the simple buttons here and the and the control things in the middle the the arrows yeah that is what i mean the arrows over here yeah and here the numbers simple yeah all right i think that is a nice design it is cool yeah that looks pretty fancy yeah or do we want to make it shape look like a banana or something i do not know yeah it is yeah it is bannanas are a weird shape and other fruits also so it is better to have some sort of basic print and then a fruit print in some primary colors i do not know what what color should the basic print be like some soft green or something or and then dark blue or yeah yeah dark blue and then then very bright yellow banana or an orange a green apple stuff like that with very bright tones i guess yeah we need very primary colors like bright red bright yellow yeah but primary colors we can create with the leds on yeah yeah okay yeah yeah yeah just give it a blue color then it is just a neutral color also for the more yeah for the older people that does not really work to draw i guess 0 what is this right right no you have text you could also make the line this yeah 2 hours further yeah thickness thickness so that is blue 0 why not go for the 20 yeah that is what i call painting so that is a dark blue basic color i guess yeah it is pretty nice and then yeah with some yellow banana and how about some some flashing standby lights lights like you have on the samsung well i do not like to call brands phones you know that because i remember from one of our 1st meetings that people lose their remote controls often so not only in the colors of the leds that we want something to keep it visible at all times how do you mean if you are flashing colors so you can not lose it yeah exactly i think it is a bit too much yeah an orange alright well this is more like purple i guess but yeah it should be more real dark blue so the contrast with the fruit objects is pretty high yeah so yeah it would be a nice device i guess which color should i give the display i mean the color of the background of the background of this color of the background of the display well i do not guess it has to be a 60 65 5000 color so yeah too expensive so just a blue black light or something like that green is too old fashioned about blue as long as you use high contrast between the background and the foreground color yeah so that people with the white backlight white backlight and dark dark letters yeah whatever which is visible i know you should test it under light conditions i mean it is hard to tell and also for people who are a bit color blind yeah that is mostly red and green i believe which which color should the buttons be that is adjustable whoa why adjustable all buttons yeah that is how we are going to make it more trendy or is that too expensive maybe i mean they have to have some color right and if the background is very dark blue maybe green but do not we want to make the background the bright colors so the total of the thing is very bright like the pictures i showed you guys those things were all like bright red bright red fleshy so more like it does not work very well more like this color yeah something like that and then then yellow and orange and red objects on it or something but then again which color should the buttons be the press buttons should that be white or black or red maybe and it looks quite cheap that color i think it is not the green yeah but it is pretty fresh on the other side it is actually pretty trendy color at the moment it is trendy okay yeah my couch is in that color ooh do not messes a couch yeah well that works pretty well and then time was up do you get a pop up yeah within 5 minutes that you have 5 minutes left or yeah and then we have to kick you out so something like this yeah that should be pretty nice color but maybe the buttons or buttons in red is maybe a bad contrast for colorblind people yeah no it is right of the green but the buttons had their own lads or not yeah red and green are actually the easiest to discriminate even for color blind they will see one of each as gray yeah but if you use green on blue those kind of colors will look the same okay so red buttons are okay i think so okay that is the default setting the red buttons yeah but i think you need to keep in mind that the lads are just extra light how do you mean yeah they do not determine the color that much i think about red lads and blue lads and that is too busy that is too busy i guess you have a background each number is transparent partly but you have to print on the number or the sign so you can not change the colors better keep the lead and the button itself in the same color i guess so just an extra bit of light what we should do i think is make kind of a see through plastic button with one colored lead behind it so that the whole button will shine as the color and if you think about easy to use buttons we have to make it the shape so that it is easy to hold for both hands but also that you can reach the buttons with your thumb if you hold the machine i do not mean to discourage you basically you 2 are going to work on smart board the next 30 minutes to design alright and you will do the evaluation of the product which we do not have yet yeah about so how should i do that yeah i do not know 0 okay or you send it to me or just because you are going to design it on this board right yeah but maybe you can do the evaluation you do not have to evaluate yet but you can make a procedure which to follow yeah i probably get instruction on that how to do that so i make another presentation i guess yeah i know i know what is going to happen in line yeah so you have a basic id and you 2 are going to do this so we are going to work here on this sketchboard yeah yeah good all right thanks yeah all right so that is i just make a new page and be creative yeah all right we have to do it at this moment after yeah you have 30 minutes okay then we have to see something yeah all right show to the management basically the what we are thinking about about yeah so yeah make a new yeah yeah let us just delete all next or yeah just make a new one yeah all right save this board yeah yeah i will just i will just keep it there yeah okay but just press save and it will be fine on the left clip art yeah current color draw in paint or something so okay shall we make some outline sketches of the basic shape 1st yeah because i have to focus on the on the basic look and field design so how it is going to look and you have to think how we are going to put the screen in it and those kind of things so if i am drawing and you think okay i am not going to be able to put a screen in there you have to correct do you mind if i draw in black then for normal sketches i do not know the button you can use your interaction so we kind of want the so the plastic buttons also help because of their only i am not so good at doing interaction so excuse me well it is a good thing that the buttons are not well that they are plastic because then you can light up the light under it when they are usable yeah maybe you should draw it very large like this this part is not functioning 0 right how do we erase or insert text or no maybe just start typing that is a bit big yeah you also do the other sides not only in the front side but also the side but also the side view let us make 1st the other views the front view side view and the i thought for the side view that the basic section the basic section would be rather a bit thicker than the middle where you are holding it because your fingers have to fit underneath and be very small i do not see a sign that the meeting is over yet exactly but the upper side has to be a bit more like that i think yeah the display we will put in here the basic functions and here where it is most reachable the the arrow functions exactly this is hard but i do not have to draw it exactly do we 0 it is okay wait let me try it one more time maybe it is easier if i draw it in once okay of course it will become way more ugly ugly you can make it some larger maybe it is easier to draw so take forever it is fun to work with this man so larger yeah that is the basic idea yeah so 5 minutes left before the meeting ends other views all right only if you are going to put the buttons on the side of the unit let us fill in the buttons later so this is going to be from the is this from the side yeah sorry yeah yeah sorry because the screen goes up like that right yeah so then it is like this or it is not convenient because then you have to screen like this and you look like the it is better to have it somewhat like this or does it flip all the way the idea is that it has to flip up to here maybe it is easier to integrate the lcd screen just into this bubble okay because it does not have to flip then because you have a space for making an lcd it is better to have this like this i guess and then flip it like this but why do we need the flipping you can adjust the angle to which it flips so it can also from this angle it can flip all the way up to there you can flip it up to there if you want so yeah but we still keep the flipping mechanism i think so yeah we keep the flip yeah because i think i think i think it will feel weird if you would make this smaller and this bigger or something that yeah i do not know the shape is okay but yeah i do not see the yeah why we should use the flipping mechanism yeah i thought it would be cool okay yeah yeah but maybe yeah but maybe we should then because we have enough space here we got the basic functions yeah there the middle the middle should not we integrate it and then like 0 the other come on so this is the shape 0 it does not it does not aim so well okay but the screen is a bit lower because if it falls on the other side it does not fall on the screen so there is a layer of rubber on the sides yeah definitely so no flipping no flipping no flipping no flippings yeah i guess but i mean most folks count right if you drop it it just breaks and it has to be very strong because of the throwing and the kinetic we better make it like this eventually yeah if you are going for the canada for children it is for people not 16 years they are responsible enough to have a mobile phone it is also to deal with their remote controller controller yes well yeah i am just thinking totally different designs also remember that the weird pocket phone thing 0 by the way look like kind of a game boy maybe we should try something like that yeah thought up a name for our product yeah it is called the real remote who 0 right copyright signed after real yeah all right yeah i like it maybe you can include that somewhere yeah we should work in our own room right 0 yeah we have to include that in our design as well yeah what the hell is that okay see you 2 half an hour okay good luck yep okay that is the site it is okay but do we want options on the side with the buttons yeah i think we do could make an unvolume button scroll yeah or also scrolling for the yeah i do not know we kind of wanted to stick with the yeah i am just thinking if we want to make something different right so with a scroll is more futuristic than the then the standard arrow buttons yeah i think yeah you are going to design it so