are you sure i got it all head is kinda small how are we placed in terms of the alright okay we are okay guess i should probably try to sit up straight like that okay cool we are good 0 i think mine is fallen off it fell that is why i guess it is going to be hard to drink coffee okay ah okay right so i am just going to start this powerpoint real quick wow yeah powerpoint very official yeah well you know yeah i kinda like this i am kinda getting into it right so just to kick off the meeting basically so we are working now for a real reaction this is so it right just got an agenda to set out what we are going to try to accomplish in this particular 1st meeting we are going to just do a quick opening and we can hopefully all get acquainted with one another then we are going to start talk a little bit about tool training essentially that means getting used to the only thing that we have not tried out yet the whiteboard we have got a general plan for the project how we are going to go about accomplishing this and then just a bit of discussion close up i guess you know game or something in real life so yeah basically i want to i am just going to you got of course you can discuss that i am thinking about proposing that since we have got this weird blend of ourselves and our roles that we just do not ask do not tell so if you say something about marketing right sorted y is you are just going to believe me we will go from there exactly fair enough i mean obvi if if you guys if if at the same time if you like logically if something does not like if i am like we are going to sell a remote control that is the size of this paper book you know you say like well that does not seem like such a good idea because of x obviously go with it i mean we will discuss it but i am not going to ask do you know that or yeah it seems like yeah yeah exactly so prove it yeah okay cause we are what we are sort of role playing is y g yeah you are going to tap into your own knowledge as well and that is the same for your when we do introductions i mean and you talk about your background you know have fun you know maybe you went to you know maybe i you are like in maine you went to u c s b but you want to say you went to harvard or something like that why not you know you can this is you know i guess we can have a little bit of fun with it so are you guys okay with that does that seem logical 0 yeah that is fine sure works for me sweet cool so i guess that that we are totally we are making a remote control which is thrilling but the idea is that we can make something based on the whole corporate model i dunno if you guys had time to check the in real life i dunno if you guys checked the the corporate website right we have got to make something as fashionable as possible that is kind of the corporate strategy is we are going to try to take ordinary stuff that nobody really thinks about and try to make it nice you know like john lewis nice or you know if you go to debenham is or something so basically we are reinventing the wheel but we want to try to do it in a user friendly slick sleek kind of way way we are going to go about doing that is basically at 1st we are going to start on the basics and that is where i am going to need you guys the user interface designers and the the other designer that i can not remember the the i d and the u i d right the industrial designer hey right on alright getting into it there you go to guide me and guide us on this project cause you are going to be you are g you guys are the bottom you know you are like no you can not do that you can not have you know x and y at the same time and then we will work up from what is necessary to more like what would be good you know like i i think you guys probably got the same emails i did but the idea of yes a coffee pot needs to be able to hold coffee but it is also better if it is not like really cheap glass so that it if you touch it you hurt your hand or something like that and so we will work up from there and then we will meet on and talk about it and then finally we will incorporate as kind of the last stage you know where you guys build or tell me tell us what is possible and then you tell us what we can hope for and what way to go take the the the take the basics and make it nicer and then ov obviously the u i d and the i d you know you you can keep on the you know sort of at the cutting edge of how to get about maximizing what is possible to try t of sync it all up so that is the detailed design so it is a 3 stage kind of thing right so for now just for th the white board basically just to get used to it i have not tried it yet either i am just going to start and carry like 5 remotes around and just write down i am just going to write down one of the names of my desert disks you know if you if you were trapped on a desert island and you could only bring 5 c d s along with you name one of them that you could not all 5 if you want to write all 5 go for it but name one of them that you could 0 we skipped introductions nice i am a excellent project manager i am marty i went to uni at u c santa barbara and i am here working on a p h d in psychology yeah so i am sarah i went to michigan and i am here doing cultural studies and i am the marketing manager or something marketing yeah expert expert do not play yourself down expert fine expert that is me i am ron i once upon a time studied in victoria and i am the user interface designer i am nathan i am from california and i am here doing a masters degree in social anthropology where did you go to uni nathan u c l a 0 brilliant yeah cool my little brother goes there okay right so desert island disks so yeah so do we have to wait for you to write it down or are you going to tell us well i will t i no no yeah i am just going to write a couple of em down i am waiting to know see i am a big music fan i do not know if you guys are i am assuming everybody likes music to some lesser or greater extent but fair enough there is some other options if you are a t v slut like i am like smallville terrible television show but i happen to love it 0 smallville it is rubbish but i love it i went to high school with tom willing actually t the the main c the main character the guy wow yeah is he a wanker yeah very much so hell of a soccer player but a total bastard nonetheless he looks really tall like he has got to be like 66 yeah he is a big guy yeah yeah okay so i really like jeff buckley you guys heard of jeff buckley that is cool cause like not very many people have and 0 well i might as well throw a british person in there you can not go wrong with radiohead it is a r good call okay so it really works just like a pen only makes noises i think it is kinda weird anyway yeah interesting yeah you are like press and it is kinda cool you will see alright so whoever wants to get up next you can write down some telly that you watch or whatever you want i guess i will go next then go for it right on okay do not want to lose all my mikes plugged in here okay this is basically just pen practice huh w okay 0 you are much taller than me so i am going to write down here right now i am listening to a lot of somebody nobody is ever heard of chris bathgate local michigan folk singer really lame and nice wow what else did i bring with me probably classical to totally geek it out yeah i think okay yeah yeah and my family guy d v d s but we do not need to write that one down well yeah 0 family guy so yeah is not h has h do you watch the new season no are you getting it online or is it on sky i think i am going to start downloading it yeah yeah that would be nice alright think i am just going to put down 11 c d anybody no no fraid not no afro beat orchestra very cool afro beat orchestra yeah very cool fift s they like 15 members from brooklyn sounds nice and i am hoping to go to the concert in belgium in brussels in april 1st wow exciting yeah it is supposed to be in brussels anyways that would be thing i love about edinburgh 0 i did not even read those oops i should not admit that that is what a powerpoint presentation is for 0 wow it is they are designed specifically to ignore i it is th brilliant yeah it is the 5 by 5 i can not read that much ah yes yes yes okay i see that vomit yeah 0 it is so horrible yes love street pizza it is so brilliant i have seen more urine in this city than ever before i mean 0 my god i just came from glasgow and i am happy to say that there is the there is the same quantity approximately seriously there is more vomit there it is so minging i w it really is does yeah ready alright yep minging nice yeah i am going local slide it in there going local yeah i have to be here for 3 years so i might as well get the terminology right yeah fair enough i have already got more than i can keep track of and i am going to go home next week and everyone is going to be like 0 my god you are turning into one of those people no 0 have you been home yet they will be like say something british and you are like 0 shut up family i know i know huh 0 it should be interesting wait until i tell them i am not coming back let us see right you s you are going to stay here they are going to love that one probably or at least get a work visa for a while and then decide wow nice cause nice bad religion yeah that is the music i grew up listening to of course yeah yeah yeah 0 now i can think of so many other ones and so there well yeah that is why yeah that is how it works something i miss about my hometown i miss coffee burritos nice burritos 0 that cost less than £8 any thing that are like free 0 yeah 22 bucks where are you from in california by the way i grew up in san diego but yeah la jolla p b did you really what part yeah i am from san diego as well nice yeah 0 man but really i last lived in san francisco i have not lived in cali well i have not lived in southern california since i was 18 going to s like north carol i am sorry you you just can not get a better burrito than what is available in the s in san diego it is different cause in san diego th the tortillas are cooked on the grill and in northern california they steam them it must make all the difference yeah it really does well it is it is i there is other things too there is you just can not place it like i when i went to school in the u in santa barbara which is central california ah the mexican food is okay it is just not good like and yeah it is like 2 bucks like literally 2 bucks for this massive i miss yeah good call on that right yeah where you from in san diego just literally just metropolitan san diego i live like 5 minutes from the zoo okay so north park actually if you want to get real specific yeah my grandparents lived on 32nd yep close t do you know where clare de lune coffee shop is and yes on university yeah cafe forte yeah it is actually like literally half a mile from my house cool yeah pretty cool small world as we were discussing before yeah especially when we are all from the same general region right so okay success on the whiteboard there you go you can harness the awesome power a little bit introductions we talked about some of our c d s and things we like about the city you know i think we will wow right so moving on to not fun stuff project finance basically what we are trying to do is sell this remote for €25 this is what the finance department has told me the c f 0 but i do not know i am not sold on this it is pretty dear i mean 20 f that is like you know 40 bucks for a remote it would have to pretty much like do my laundry for me so what we can maybe work on that a later but we are going to make a lot on it the profit aims to make €50000000 on it eur internationally so one of the things i i was going to mention to you you guys the designers is that it m we probably need a rever it needs to be a universal remote control probably okay so something that could do n t s c as well as pal as well as various other formats like if it is going to control d v d s but you know i will leave that to you guys but that is something that i i it is going to be an international sold thing makes sense but we want to try to make it for 1250 so we want to try to make a 100% profit on it if we can s right so just to close up i am not sure how much time i have used next time right project manager sorted is we will meet in another half an hour or so and i would like the industrial designer to get ge think about what needs to be done like what the basic function of it u i d well yeah you right g your assignments are up there and you will also get s assignments from in your email as well more spec specifics on what do do basic and so i need you to tell us what we what the user is going to want what they are looking for so actually in a way you guys c maybe in our next meeting chat a bit about what the user is going to want and what the user can have you know like so and negotiate that yeah well it is and we will discuss the trade offs in between so yeah specific instructions will be sent in your email but i think that that is more or less a good place to start for now and as more things come up we will have meetings and you will get emails and so forth any questions before we get started i assume that we are building a stand alone remote control we can not kind of build it into other products you mean to like for instance like a mobile phone or something like that sounds interesting yeah i do not think there is any rules about it yet so maybe our personal coach will have something to say about that yeah or or you know can we produ can we sell a remote control phone for £25 or less well have a think about it i mean i am i am certainly op it seems like yeah it it seems like it is certainly do able is not it yep okay w yeah i mean or if we can not have a full mobile phone maybe a remote that has some other kind of useful function yeah the clapper no i mean no good idea good idea we will see what see what maybe a remote with changeable faces like the faces that you can buy for phones nice i like the little cover thingies huh y i like that yeah hot yeah that is true i guess we we probably have some time maybe we should brainstorm a bit like what we want to do go back to i do not really have any let me bring up something about our basic goals here what we want to accomplish project announcement ts ts ts yeah not so much all right we will find them we are on our own now are we also discussing kind of our initial ideas at all here yeah yeah let us do it let us do s does anybody have any initial ideas i am going to go ahead and take notes on this too cause good idea start your minutes yeah i mean 0 yeah right so initial ideas well it is pretty much given it is going to be universal right we decided that already and it may be functioning for other things yeah as soon as you said that i was thinking like all the other things you could get a remote to do like your microwave or your front door or like to have everything on one thing yeah but then i have never been a fan of those huge remotes that have like a 1000000 buttons you can not tell what they do s smaller is better simple yeah but i am thinking i am thinking kind of p d a design so touch screen design rather than button so that you can kind of flip around all sorts of different things specific okay 0 right that would be different interesting yeah that is slick is not it i mean like stylist yeah like a just a yeah true right so we got 5 minutes more to chat about this perfect so we have got this kind of an idea of a trade off between size and functionality and we also right we want it to be munt multifunctional but at the same time if you get it to do too much you are not going to be able to tell them apart yeah too confusing it is going to be too complicated too crowded with buttons and things that whole yeah i am also going to note for future reference this idea of so you like maybe like an l like a touch screen type of remote possibly i do not think one exists an interesting option be a good idea needs it needs one outstanding feature to set it apart from all the other remotes yeah definitely yeah all the other universal remotes i do not know if there is such a thing out there i guess we could do some do some research on or one of us could do some research on it about whether or not there are multi format like you know pal n t s c region one right i am pretty sure there is i mean i i have a friend who has a p d a that he just points at his telev any television he wants and it will figure out the the specifications of it and will control it so i th i assume that that can be done with kind of around the world okay okay that yeah interesting awesome okay yeah okay okay all right so i li i am liking that idea this idea of a touch screen remote with multi format features right let us see i think making it out of a nice material would be very important because so many of those remotes that you see these universal remotes look so cheap and low quality yeah yeah keeping it nice and slick would be important and i do not know like there is such a problem with losing them that adding this whole like p d a pen business is only one more thing to lose so we are going to have to be careful with what like 0 just something like keep in mind when we start actually dealing with this stuff but that would be really cool let us see i like the idea of the multi plate yeah yeah okay yeah fi b like what are they called those face plate things in in is not there a name for them think they are just called face plates are they something we will have to come up with a name patent it i do not know i dunno i like we should c we should come up with a fuzzy one as well yeah something really cool leopard print or something for those cold winter days leopard print i think it would not be such a bad idea to have a like a locator device maybe a simple button that you have on your television to help you find your remote true but if we are bundling it unless we are selling their telly with the remote right well if we bundle it as a phone then you can always call it true if you are not doing that then we can have something that just kind of rings from either well there used to be those whistling devices but that is a little bit annoying true right cou could we not do something where like just a little lit like literally just a very small kind of thing that comes with the remote that you could place something else that you press and it makes the remote page kinda like how on a lot of cordless regular phones you have a page button and it goes could we do something like that th right yeah yeah right i think so that is cool probably i think we could design into that yeah good yeah i think this material quality as well like i guess what we can think about what kind of you know apple has been really successful with this surgical white kind of business or this sleek kind of you know yeah and that titanium the new silver sleek ones that is last couple of years very much so yeah curves yeah we do have the minimum am amount i mean we were talking finances i dunno selling a a £40 remote would h or a $40 remote €25 remote would be pretty you know it is pretty expensive so maybe we might want to trade off some of the features for a lower price right without without getting into that whole like you know go down to bargain store remote you know bargain store universal remote that is black and you know m massive right yeah some kind of i dunno a balance there in somewhere definitely but have a think about what we can do have a think about what we want to do how we are going to sell it and yeah or if you our users in mind like these grandmas are not going to be into this whole new let us design no it is they are used to the buttons so we will have to be careful of exactly who we are marketing this to yeah and who we are going to be able to get it out of is true but we are talking £25 or €25 €25 euros slight difference i guess yeah they are all weaker than they are all stronger than the dollar although computer parts all if you are going to upgrade your computer buy it in the states like do you guys know fry is huge computer electronics store no they serve right they sa tha s they will sell things overseas so you can buy stuff in america and have it shipped over for like £2030 about right so let us go ahead and wrap that up here for now i am going to put these initial ideas that we have got in the project documents so if you guys wa need a reminder about what we have talked about the different you know kind of trade offs that we have got and the other ideas okay okay you can consult them at your leisure and right so thanks for that let us just head back to work on what we were talking about bef goi h h getting into with half an hour yes kay perfect thanks guys cool thank you alright
i am going to try about it he is kind of okay how we are placed in terms of the you are okay i guess i should probably try to sit up straight like that okay cool okay i think mine is falling off it is fell it is well it is really hard to drink coffee okay okay okay right so i am just going to start this powerpoint real quick yeah powerpoint it is very official yeah well you know yeah i kind of like this i am kind of getting into it right so just to kick off the meeting basically so we are working now for a real reaction this is 0 so right just got an agenda to set out agenda to set out what we are going to try to accomplish in this particular 1st meeting we are going to just do a quick opening and we can hopefully all get acquainted with one another then we are going to start to talk a little bit about tool training essentially that means getting used to the only thing that we have not tried out yet the whiteboard we have got a general plan for the project how we are going to go about accomplishing this and then just a bit of discussion and close up irl you know gamer slang in real life so yeah basically i want to i am just going to you got of course we can discuss that i am thinking about proposing that since we have got this weird blend of ourselves and our roles that we just do not ask do not tell so if you say something about marketing right sort of you are just going to believe me let us go from there exactly i mean if you guys then at the same time if you like logically if something does not like if i am like we are going to sell a remote control that is the size of this paper book you know you say like well that does not seem like such a good idea because of x obviously go with it and we will discuss it but i am not going to ask do you know that or it seems like prove it yeah yeah exactly so because we are sort of role playing you are going to tap into your own knowledge as well and that is the same for your when we do introductions i mean and you talk about your background you know have fun you know maybe you went to you know maybe you are like me and you went to ucsb but you want to say you went to harvard or something like that why not you know you can this is you know i guess we can have a little bit of fun with it so are you guys okay with that does that seem logical 0 yeah that is fine works for me sweet cool so i guess the we are totally we are making a remote control which is thrilling but the idea is that we can make something based on the whole corporate motto i do not know if you guys had time to check the in real life i do not know if you guys check the corporate website we have got to make something as fashionable as possible that is kind of the corporate strategies we are going to try to take ordinary stuff that nobody really thinks about and try to make it nice you know like john lewis nice or you know if you go to dev ms or something so basically we are reinventing the wheel but we want to try to do it in a user friendly slick sleek kind of way where we are going to go about doing that is basically 1st we are going to start on the basics and that is where i am going to need you guys user interface designers and the other designer that i can not remember the id and the uid right the industrial designer hey right on i am getting into it to guide me and guide us on this project because you are going to be you guys are the bottom you know you are like no you can not do that you can not have you know x and y at the same time and then we will work up from what is necessary to more like what would be good you know like i think you guys probably got the same email as i did but the idea of yes a coffee pot needs to be able to hold coffee but it is also better if it is not like really cheap glass so that if you touch it you hurt your hand or something like that and so we will work up from there and then we will meet on it and talk about it and then finally we will incorporate as kind of the last stage in a way you guys build or tell me to tell us what is possible and then you tell us what we can hope for and take the basics and make it nicer and then obviously the uid and the id you know you can keep on the cutting edge of how to get about maximizing what is possible to try to sync it all up so that is a detail design so it is a 3 stage kind of thing right so for now just for the whiteboard basically just to get used to it i have not tried it yet either i am just going to start i carry like 5 remotes around and just write down i am just going to write down one of the names of my desert disks if you were trapped on a desert island and you can only bring 5 cds along with you name one of them that you could not all 5 if you want to write all 5 go for it but name one of them that you could 0 we skipped introductions nice i am an excellent project manager i am marty i went to uni at ucsense santa barbara and i am here working on a phd in psychology yeah so i am sarah i went to michigan and i am here in cultural studies and i am a marketing manager or something marketing expert expert do not play yourself down expert that is me i am ron i once upon a time studied in victoria and i am the user interface designer i am nathan i am from california and i am here doing a master is degree in social anthropology where would you go to uni david ucla 0 brilliant cool my little brother goes there okay right so desert island disks yeah so do we have to wait for you to write it down are you going to tell us well i will no no yeah i am just going to write a couple of them down see i am a big music fan i do not know if you guys are i am assuming everybody likes music at some lesser greater extent but there is some other options if you are a tv slut like i am like smallville terrible television show but i happen to love it is rubbish but i love it i went to high school with tom willing actually the main guy wow yeah is he a wanker yeah very much so hell of a soccer player but a total bastard he looks really tall he has got to be like 66 he is a big guy okay so i really like jeff buckley you guys heard of jeff buckley  that is cool because not very many people have and 0 well i might as well throw a british person in there you can not go wrong with radiohead i am sure good call okay so it really works just like a panel and it makes noises i think it is kind of weird yeah yeah you like pressing goes you will see all right so whoever wants to get up next you can write down some tell you that you watch or whatever you want i guess i will go next to that right on okay lose all my mics plugged in here okay this is basically just pen practice huh okay 0 you are much taller than me so i am going to write down here right now i am listening to a lot of somebody who is ever heard of chris bathgate local michigan folk singer nice wow really lame and what else did i bring with me probably classical to totally geeky okay yeah yeah yeah i think and my family guy dvds we do not need to write that one down 0 family guy do you watch the new season no are you getting it online or is it on sky i think i am going to start downloading it yeah yeah that would be nice all right i think i am just going to put down one one cd anybody afro beat afro beat orchestra very cool afro beat orchestra yeah very cool they are like 15 members from brooklyn and i am hoping to go to the concert in deliq belgium wow exciting yeah it is supposed to be brussels anyway the thing i love about edinburgh 0 i did not read those i should not admit that that is what a powerpoint presentation is for they are designed specifically to ignore it is brilliant it is the 5 by 5 i can not read that much ah yes yes it is okay vomit yes street pizza that is so brilliant it is so horrible i have seen more urine in this city 0 it is so horrible ever before seriously but i just came from glasgow and i am happy to say that there is a same quantity approximately it is so mingan it really is does yeah you ready all right yep mingin nice yeah i am going local slides in there i am going local i have to be here for 3 years so i might as look at the terminology right i have already got more than i can keep track of them i am going to go home next week and everyone is like 0 my god you are turning into one of those people have you been home yet no they will be like say something british and you are like 0 shut up family i know 0 it should be interesting wait until i tell them i am not coming back you are going to love that one you are going to stay here probably or at least get a work piece of for a while and then decide bad religion yeah this is the music i grew up listening to of course yeah yeah yeah now i can think of so many other ones well yeah that is why that is how it works yeah something i miss about my husband i miss coffee bredos britos that costs less than 0 yeah 2 bucks anything that are like free where are you from in california by the way i grew up in san diego but did you really what park la jolla pee b yeah i am from san diego beachy yeah but really i last lived in san francisco i have not lived in cal well i have not lived in southern california since i was 18 going to like norcal i am sorry you just can not get a bit of breedo than what is available in san diego it is different because in san diego the tortillas are cooked on the grill northern california they steam them it must make all the difference yeah it really does well there is other things too you just can not place it like when i went to school in santa barbara which is central california the mexican food is okay it is just not good and yeah it is like 2 bucks like literally 2 bucks for this massive i miss yeah good call on that yeah where are you from in san diego just literally just metropolitan san diego i live like 5 minutes from the zoo okay so north park actually if you want to get real specific yeah my grandparents lived on 32nd yep close to do you know where a clair de loon coffee shop yes on university yeah fe forte yeah it is actually like literally half a mile from my house cool yeah pretty cool small world as we were discussing before especially when we are all from the same general region right so okay success on the white board you can harness the awesome power a little bit introductions we talked about some of our cds and things we like about the city i think we will right so moving on to not fun stuff project finance basically what we are trying to do is sell this remote for €25 this is what the finance department has told me the cfo but i do not know i am not sold on this it is pretty dear i mean that is like you know 40 bucks for a remote it would have to pretty much do my laundry for me so we can maybe work on that later but we are going to make a lot on it the profit aims to make €50000000 on it you are internationally so one of the things i was going to mention to you you guys the designers is that we probably need a it needs to be a universal remote control probably okay so something that could do ntsc as well as pal as well as various other formats like if it is going to control dvds but you know i will leave that to you guys but that is something that is going to be international sold thing but we want to try to make it for $1250 so we want to try to make 100% profit on it if we can so right so just to close up i am not sure how much time i have used it next time right project manager sorted is we will meet another half an hour or so and i would like the industrial design or get think about what needs to be done like what the basic function of it uid well yeah your assignments are up there and you will also get assignments from in your email as well more specifics on what to do basically so i need you to tell us what we what the user is going to want so actually in a way you guys maybe in our next meeting chat a bit about what the user is going to want and what the user can have you know about can you negotiate that yeah well it is and we will discuss the trade offs in between so yeah specific instructions will be sent in your email but i think that that is more or less a good place to start for now and as more things come up we will have meetings and you will get emails and so forth any questions before we get started i assume that we are building a standalone remote control we can not kind of build it into other products for instance like a mobile phone sounds interesting yeah i do not think there is any rules about it yet maybe you are a personal coach yeah or you know can we sell a remote control phone for £25 for us well have a think about it i mean i am certainly open it seems like yeah it seems like it is certainly doable is not it i mean or if we can not have a full mobile phone maybe a remote that has some other kind of useful function the clap no i mean no good idea good idea maybe a remote with changeable faces like face is like face sleep bye for the house i like that i like that hot yeah that is true i guess we probably have some time maybe we should brainstorm a bit like what we want to do go back to i do not really have any let me bring up something about our basic goals here what we want to accomplish  project announcements  yeah not so much all right we will find that we are on our own now are we also discussing kind of our initial ideas at all yeah yeah let us do let us do does anybody have any initial ideas i am going to go ahead and take notes on this too because good idea start 2 minutes yeah i mean i do not know so initial ideas it is pretty much given it is going to be universal yeah we decided that already and it may be functioning for other things as soon as you said that i was thinking like all the other things you can not get a remote to like your microwave or your front door like to have everything on one thing but then you have never been a fan of those huge remotes that have like a 1000000 buttons you can not tell what they do smaller is better simple i am thinking i am thinking kind of pda design so touchscreen design rather than button 0 right so that you can kind of flip around all sorts of different things yeah that is slick is not it i mean like stylist you know sure yeah all right so we got 5 minutes more to chat about that that is perfect so we have got this kind of an idea of a trade off between size and functionality right and we also we want to be multifunctional but at the same time if you get to do too much you are not going to be able to tell them apart it is going to be too complicated too crowded buttons and things i am also going to note for future reference this idea of so you like remember like a touchscreen type of remote possibly i do not think one exists it needs one outstanding feature to set it apart from all the other units yeah all the other universal remotes i do not know if there is such thing out there i guess we will do some research on or one of us can do some research on it about whether or not there are multi format like you know pal ntsc region one right i am pretty sure there is i mean i have a friend who has a pda okay that he just points at any television he wants and it will figure out the specifications of it and we will control it interesting i assume that that can be done with going around the world okay all right so i am liking that idea this idea of a touch screen remote with multi format features right let us see i think making it out of a nice material would be very important because so many of those remotes that you see these universal remotes look so cheap and low quality yeah keeping it nice and slick would be important and i do not know like there is such a problem with losing them that adding this whole like pda pen business is only one more thing to lose so we are going to be careful of what like just something like keep in mind when we start actually dealing with this stuff but that would be really cool let us see i like the idea of the multi plate yeah what are they called those faceplate things they are just called face plates are they i do not know i like we will have to complain we should come up with a fuzzy one as well lepard winter days i think it would not be such a bad idea to have a locator device maybe a simple button that you have on your television to help you find your remote true but if we are bundling it unless we are selling the telly with the remote right well if we bundle it as a phone then you can always call it if you are not doing that then we can have something that just kind of ring that just kind of rings from either well there used to be those whistling devices but that is a little bit annoying could we not do something where like just a little like literally just a very small kind of thing that comes with the remote that you can place somewhere else that you press and it makes the remote page kind of like how on a lot of cordless regular phones you have a page button could we do something like that that is cool i think so i think we could design it yeah good yeah i think this material quality as well like i guess we can think about what kind of you know apple has been really successful with this surgical white kind of business or a sleek kind of you know and that titanium the new silver sleek ones the last couple years yeah pretty much so curves yeah we do have the minimum amount i mean we were talking finances i do not know selling a £40 remote or a $40 remote $25 year a remote would be pretty you know it is pretty expensive so maybe we might want to trade off some of the features for a lower price without without getting into that whole like you know go down to bargain store remote you know bargain store universal remote that is black and you know massive some kind of i do not know a balance there in somewhere definitely but have a think about what we can do have a think about what we want to do how we are going to sell it and our users in mind like these grandmas are not going to be into this whole new let us design remote they are used to the buttons so we will have to be careful of exactly who we are marketing this too and who we are going to be able to get it out of it is true but we are talking £25 or €25 €25 they are all weaker than they are all starts longer than the dollar although computer parts if you are going to upgrade your computer buy it in the states like do you guys know fries a huge computer electronic store they serve or they say they will sell things overseas so you can buy stuff in america and have it shipped over for like 20 or £30 like that right so let us go ahead and wrap that up here for now i am going to put these initial ideas that we have got in the project documents so if you guys need a reminder about what we have talked about the different kind of tradeoffs that we have got and the other ideas you can consult them at your leisure and right so thanks for that let us just head back to work on what we were talking about before getting into is it half an hour yes okay perfect thanks guys cool thank you all right thank you