no no okay okay who wants to take notes today 0 channel okay okay kay yeah l i could take notes this time i guess what i will takes notes this time i guess th okay yeah actually i suppose i will use this i will make funny drawings actually 1st thing i just sorta did a really sorta brief yeah version of what we have to do yep actually i can just take that if you want thank you very interesting start of the meeting yeah everyone is looking down reading okay yeah i like the timeline actually for that i was just copying the one straight out of the other documents so it is all whatever inaccurate and well okay yeah but yeah okay basically that is fine yeah b let me see it 0 she has 0 that is the same yep she has her own 0 yeah very good i am not sure if we need the outline of the prototype okay i mean what what are we going to put into that yeah well just sorta well the thing is yeah we are going to be touching on all that during the other part for the progress and putting screen shots and all the rest yeah yeah because i mean that is basically what we are doing here is not it the whole exact yeah well it is something that he had mentioned in the in the previous like just to sort of have a prototype together and so i was just saying that you know we could potentially do that i do not know yeah we could because this could be just some a little just just describe some screen shots or something it is not something we have to alter yeah yeah sure like the thing is i was thinking even in the stuff that i was doing i mean just throw the screen shots in there when you talk about what you are doing right yeah you can either have and we can just ignore that bit it kinda makes sense so yeah or you can have 0 yes 0 actually i have a i have that at the very end screen shots but that did not show up on this page so it is not even relevant yeah so yeah you can either have the yeah it says screen shot there and stuff but th you can either have screen shots by the thing each one or have just a bunch of em in one session yeah it does not yeah anyways so so yeah this just very general structure i guess from this we can just pop in our little blurbs and and yeah i have written the topic segmentation one 0 yeah cool yeah i guess so i do not know if there is other stuff that you think should be done to this i could do that before i mail it to you guys otherwise yeah it should be alright did someone else want to throw it togeth actually i can probably still throw it together if you want put your parts into into this one do we d i think pernilla should do it yeah she never said that i am the perfectionist right yeah yes yeah yeah yeah that is a good idea yeah let us just cut out the middle man you know yeah exactly she is only going to tell us we got it wrong anyway so i am only joking just yeah and i am being like i do not know not a native speaker of english i think is but what whatever yeah 0 yeah well i mean it is up to you if you want to keep going with that we will see i am happy to do some as well i have lots of time tonight and then we will send it to you and you can do the final revisions yeah th you can you can perfect it and i am sure i will look at it like when my usual working hours are like from 120 clock till 30 clock or something yeah 0 yeah i know you are always online so if you can work on it that and then like no actually not yeah you always make me feel bad because when i go to bed at like one you are still online sleep sleep food sleep yeah you never go to bed or you just leave your computer on maybe yeah you pretend logged in always busy yeah right yeah yeah so maybe yeah but i am never online on the morning so yeah yeah yeah actually i noticed that no one is anyways alright yep so okay so i will send it off to you well then yeah do what you want to do with it 1st and then i will will look at yeah yeah yep okay sabotage it right yeah yeah actually d and i will send it out to you again tomorrow or whatever yeah was there anything else we wanted to add to the time line yeah i mean essentially it was what like f you can not see it right there yeah here i will s here is the old one 0 there is more well that is that is the orig this the original one 0 i see 0 this is the one that okay yeah yeah which just copied straight out probably want to think about if we want to change our goals and stuff i think it one thing that we could probably skip totally is the removing things from the audio files that is what i thought as well i mean do we are we are we actually going to attempt that yeah yeah that is no i do not th that is that is too big yeah nah i do not think so either yeah yeah i think that is going to be a b we do not even know how to approach that at the moment i think no yeah it is a good thing to have to say we cou what we could have done if we had more time a good future work thing is not it stick in the conclusion of the final report yeah yeah should if we had more time this is what we would have done yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that is right unless we d unless we discover some sorta time warp thing it is not going to happen yeah so maybe i mean we we should we should definitely well we could probably not put it under this heading yeah if yeah if yeah yeah but that is definitely one thing we could just remove but put it under changes since the initial specification yeah yeah sure yep yeah and say you know we did not we decided the the r time is too short whatever we do not think there is enough time or we felt there were more important things to do with our time than yes than worry about yeah we would prefer to concentrate on the main yeah and i think we should probably comment explicitly on the milestones here as well and say we managed to do yeah yeah this this and this m m meet these milestones at yeah or some of them were later some were yeah yeah that is a good idea we could even you have should have a section probably i mean we have not really yeah like you know develop prototype gui yeah we t you know ah yeah we managed that nicely yeah yeah exactly yeah the best file on target or something yeah yeah yeah he he d he does not have to know exactly what i mean yeah m i mean it is hot finished but it does not really say more or less yeah put it put it good yeah or t well search yeah p +plus or -3 days to yeah yeah that is that that is true too that is true yeah conceptually and so i have only got 6 days to do the topic segmentation as well ah that is plenty jesus you do not have any s p n l p assignments do you yeah and you can say yeah we say we are still aiming for the development to be complete on the or something speaker characterisation jesus speaker characterisation is supposed to be done already m yeah 0 really yeah 2 days ago whoa 0 jeez h is are one of those something that you want to change and delete from our list of expectations give me a week and i will tell you the answer to that yeah okay i yeah i alright like should we put i a hint that something like that might happen into the document or maybe the speaker characterisation might get slimmer yeah that is right okay alright i i really want to do it okay probably we will not disappear it yeah i mean it is not it is not going to be difficult yeah i know yeah if at least have all the information pop up that is already in the meta data file that is going to be no work at all yeah okay yeah yeah true yeah yep yeah so it is definitely going to be something there yeah we will not make it disappear but we might thin it down a bit okay sounds good yeah yeah but we might not you know but we might have time depends how how how how things m yeah it might turn out easier than thought the topic segmentation with the l c seg and text tiles basically done it just needs to be done because you know what i mean the co yeah tuned yeah okay tuned i guess or yeah yeah a search through the parameters or something let us see what happens cool yeah sounds good what else okay i do not know shall we change the deadlines we should probably d sorry we should probably do another responsibility of packages as well that is what he hinted that we should also indicate who who is responsible for what from now on right yeah well i could probably just copy that straight out of the other one as well yeah pretty much that is essentially the same as it was maybe more detailed specifically well you could put you know yeah i do not know yeah should we i do not know do you think mike about our things that we had together should we i mean now yeah split those apart yeah i think so yeah like yeah inverted file i mean we have it now like inverted and you have the other but what about the m yeah exactly removing disfluencies 0 shall we just well if we are skipping the audio one and then things got easier yeah we just keep it together on the the pap there right now and just see what what yeah yeah have you taken any more of a look at it have you taken any more of a look at it at the disfluenc okay no not the disfluencies yeah okay no have not we could probably i know if we will have time to look at that before tomorrow yeah yeah might be yeah we could just make it up so like i will claim one you will claim the other for the search things and then we could leave that one as a a joint one yeah and that would be good kay something have you managed any further on the search thing i found finally today something that i can build it in and it i should have something for tomorrow i should you know at least very least have a gui and wire i will be wiring that in hopefully tomorrow morning alright that is nice so i want to get something i want to see this i want to get it together have an image in my mind and i just want to see it on the thing and then get a nice screen shot yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah my intent is to work on these things tomorrow a bit more so also i do not know if we send it in on the afternoon maybe i can add a few sentences too when i am done well w well well it does not really matter i mean you could write the sentences 1st as well i mean with the intention that this is done yeah yeah yeah then it is done certainly i mean and also some sometimes it is a bit of a motivating factor too and if it is not hopefully it will not be i mean you write down the words and the ideas as 0 okay 0 yep well i will do this i will do that you know it just all falls together yeah yeah we will see how about the underlying data for it for the d inverted file how is that coming along 0 well i was still like struggling with java stuff 0 yeah but yeah but i will work on it yeah coming along i think i was wondering about that is i have not looked at it so much but if m any of you guys know how we could do the like from the extract words that you did like also in in this extract t time stamps on stuff so we can is it easy yeah just yeah well it just when he pulls up the segments part of that one of the f one of the attributes you do get attributes yeah okay get attributes it returns a list of attributes search through those and and then it just you can that will tell you what attributes it has got okay and then you can either do it automatically or you can just hard code and say look get me the time stamps so you just say get attribute and put i think it is i think the method is called get attribute and just it is called start time and end time okay and that will tell you the start times and end times okay okay i think it returns it double okay yeah so now i could just put it in some yeah that is on the the n the the nom right elements tuple or something yeah what on the the the the the object is a nom right element i think okay that should tell you what it is yeah i will take a look at that so w is there did you have you made another m browser is there something that i should there is but i w i have not made a lot of changes to it so i might just delete what i have done and copy again from yours cause i am sure you have probably made some changes already not since you looked at it last no 0 really since friday okay but i will tonight that is the point i thought you said okay 0 right i see okay i thought you said that you had written some things that maybe have caused some bugs and that you were going to fix those on the weekend or something no no okay alright after the weekend alright yeah okay right weekend was out okay cool yeah so if you although there is stuff out there that actually i am going to try and minimize the amount of changes i make to m browser anyways should not should not be an issue actually just to clarify last week when we were talking about our search results like if we have topics as well as transcripts as well as what was the other summaries do we want separate result panes for each of those or do we want them all in one pane with like an icon or a different color or something to indicate what type of result they are so that when they you know click on that it is going to go to the relevant thing like just if they check all 3 say topics summaries blah blah blah have 3 different windows come up yeah yeah or 3 like sub sub panes sort of well at the moment is there at the moment is there a window that comes up or is that a r a 2nd results pane or is there you know does the window get larger what i thought what we sorta discussed last week was to have it sort the same window what is there kind of what are you thinking so it will be on the search window bottom half of the search window i do not know if we still want to keep it that way but that is that is what i was going to be working yeah so so it is just like you click those and it is just loads up you know splits that thing into like 2 or 3 or whatever that is yeah yeah 12 or 3 depending on which ones you check and then so if we want to do it that way you know like it probably does not matter too much just trying to think if there is going to be any other issues down the road depending on yeah what have th th you confuse me do you have 3 separate windows for the 3 separate different types of results no just just panes just result panes for each of the 3 no no no no no okay not not 3 different okay okay cool pop ups yeah okay no no right yep so so it is just when we click you know topics and summaries for what we want to search yeah then it will you know there will be 2 result panes yeah or tabs or something so for one for topics one for i do not not really tabs yeah i quite like the idea of a tab in that case but then you can not see all of them at the same time and it is just like all of them no but you would not want to compare the result the topic one topic result with one summary result would you well it is no but the thing is if you are looking if you could check them both you want to see all the results actually yeah especially if you get if you get results for the same meeting yeah yeah it is 3 panes yeah exactly yeah maybe yeah yeah so the summary and the topic and the transcript are so or we could just put them all into one result pane on that same window and just indicate yeah yeah it is true yeah i mean we could we could order them by meeting for example yeah yeah 0 yeah i guess that was the other thing whether we want to have this reorder by columns and all that how to order it yeah well i mean if you know that is you even a 2nd step the 1st question is do we want to order them but that is a hassle too it is a lot of work how do we want to order them in the 1st place yeah i think yeah probably by meeting makes most sense i mean essentially they are tem you know in time order yeah so yeah that kinda makes most sense yeah maybe we should do that least yeah yeah should be an easy no i do not know actually should be fairly easy i guess yeah m why do not you just color code those yeah the results to 3 different colors thinking sometimes in a case like that like a run across in other languages just that it is hard to tell what kind of object it was originally once it is put into like a list box or something it is hard to tell whether it was a a transcript or whatever and then if we are highlighting something in a transcript window it may be difficult to get that information back once it is just in a list box an item in a list box so let us there is yeah no but if you whereas if it is coming from if you if you do it straight from you know you get th you get the result and then there is some if statement saying s straight on the you know rock bottom lev level saying if th if you found a segment then color it print it in red or whatever and yeah right yeah yeah it is just silly as opposed to yeah yeah it is just like from past experience i have there is goofy little things that happen and it just does not let you save certain things and it is just kinda trying to to do a different kind of to go to a different window 0 right ah well have a look so if you want to go to the actual highlight the transcript or highlight the topic or highlight the summary 0 at that point that is sorta where it starts getting a little bit tricky cause you are working with an event handler within the one panel or list box or whatever it is yeah yeah i can imagine and 00 i see yeah so there are ways around it but you know whether i will be able to figure something out like that till before tomorrow yeah i know you you have to use actions or delegates or whatever the all that stuff so anyways yeah i mean at the moment it works it works with highlighting in in the transcript window does not it right i think so so i think he was saying that as long as we implement that interface it should work with anything that we do like highlighting the yeah i think that was who is saying that what do you mean it should work with anything was not jonathan saying something about that i think it was just like as long as we implement one of these interfaces for this particular type of window we should be able to have that highlighting happen i do not know i do not anyways okay yeah i mean the whole the m what fills the transcription box and all of these boxes is a special sort of pane made by nite so i am not sure what it is called now okay some no but i know what it is called and that comes with a whole load of highlighting extras as well okay as i said you know if you if you left click on something for example it highlights automatically okay alright okay so maybe it comes with something clever as well okay maybe i should maybe i should use that as well in my yeah okay yeah it is called a nite text pane or something is not it no i am sure it has not got pane in it is it nite i do not know text text yeah something like that text area or something something like that yeah might yep nom text there is alright nom text yeah mostly things are called nom yeah why what is nom anyway yeah yeah why yeah nite object model i think nite 0 okay that makes sense what do you say nite object model i think that is what okay with the the removing the disfluencies have you done anything with that yet anybody no no we have not cause i was wondering how we are going to write it back to h t m l i mean x m l if we take if we did the processing writing it back to x m l it is i thought we were just going to have that as words seems like not ev not as x m l just sort of as a was that what was that what transcripts recent 0 no there is a blop of text text file transcript no cause then we need all the other data if we want to keep it a transcript right you will very much limit what you can do with it if it is not in x m l format yeah yeah that is true yeah that is true yeah good point there is some bizarre method that puts things back into x m l format why do you why do we want it in x m l there but i mean i thought we would we would just selectively selectively write the x m l that we have got what so as as opposed to yeah 0 select what we want just take bits of the x m l and take only it takes certain segments yeah t yeah only only print out certain certain segments the segments that we want just selectively yeah like yeah at the moment it prints out all of them yeah yeah yeah we will just put an if loop in it that leaves out some of the print statements yeah yeah yeah certain segments okay yeah yeah yeah not not store it at all whatsoever alright okay that 0 yeah okay then that is then that is not yeah yeah that is what and that is what i think we like because it says something different there yeah i know that is what okay that is sorta what we were thinking before 0 right then written to a written to a file actually but this makes more sense i kinda doubt just that it would ever be done but that will mean that you can only do things on actually no cause you need to do things on word level yeah so yeah that is fine yeah if we are going to do the x m l then fine that is that probably makes it easier yeah i mean we are not really well i mean we are not going to do much more than just look at the the rem like the text problem with disfluencies cause we are not going to search it and we are not going to like listen to it yeah since we are not doing the audio thing yeah so i guess just to displaying it is a alright so what it is fine as text you mean but well anyway yeah yeah yeah you do not really need to do much more with it yeah no yeah that is right yeah but it would the thing is like well how would we display the like if we do take disfluencies out and just c you know create a text file take the disfluencies out of the text file and then yeah it would just be blurb like a summary it will not look like it will not say speaker x says this speaker y says that speaker z says this well that is true unless we extract that out of the file when we create the text file and yeah then it will look ugly probably cause it will look just black and white yeah that is true too unless you want as dark coloring it is probably best and do as you said like just like yeah i do not think it is going to take long to to produce anyway no no no i do not think that is i think it is true it is just another i mean these meetings are not endlessly long it is just words and to print all of them out selectively no yeah it does it on the fly anyway did not it so yeah so then just goes through it and says if this word equals that then print yeah yeah yeah just a bunch of if statements is you could nearly do it together with with the transcription with the original transcription have them run parallel yeah so if certain you know if it is a proper word print it on both both panes and if it is not a proper word then print it only on one but i mean that is that is you know fancy but but yeah you probably could actually this is probably and that is probably not that much more difficult yeah you just fatten the code out a bit yeah i it would be the same thing but then you know the the b the good way of doing it not together is that you if someone does not want to look at the the you know the chop file then you do not ever have to produce it and they can not yeah exactly so but i mean you can you know you can write we can write something like we will try and do it on the fly and and observe if if that going to is going to take too long if it is going to take too long we will think about writing it to a file and doing it off line right should not no it is just they would just be if statements when they fast if statements are not they yeah yeah i yeah or i do not know i was just thinking as well i mean we could probably even use like x s l t to kinda just transform it and you know this is loads of if statements flip it into yeah just transforms like style sheet the x m l style sheet well is that 0 right and then it is kinda like there is usually things built in to well should be built into java i mean to process x m l into like in just creates whatever file it is going to be in it has been a f couple of years since i have looked into anything like this but that might even be an easier way and then that way we could even pre process that before hand i do not know do well we do not want to have to do that right i would not want to have to put it take to put it back into x m l with java although on the fly it is typic it is it is typically pretty fun even trying to read it in x m l with java was complicated enough 0 right i gave up doing that completely and just defaulted back to n nite stuff cause it was much much much easier 0 really okay yeah yeah yeah so if we can do it with nite stuff do it with nite stuff i think yeah okay otherwise you are going to be s java trying to do s it was just so complicated it was ridiculous yeah okay yeah do not believe it you have to d start defining object models like the nite thing and getting all bizarre w weird things yeah okay are you serious it is insane it was mad actually i was thinking i might try and talk to who is it jonathan and jean like just to see h what they what system they used to develop this stuff cause it would be nice to have all the tools there and just like have the object model and just kind of like plug and play with everything and just to actually use the system you know at a higher level rather than kinda you know playing around with a little bit of code and modifying their code and doing this and that it would be nice to just sorta see what they are doing so i might try and contact them see if there is i do not know any other hints they could give us just to get things i do not know moving at a higher level i guess it seems it would be more interesting to use it as a a real developer would cause just seems like a little tinkering here and there and just adding couple things and i do not know so that is what programming is all about i am afraid a channel yeah n no no it should not be no it should be higher level it should be conceptual and you know coming up with the the brilliant ideas and then just yeah bringing those to reality yeah maybe yeah that is the higher people i do not know i have a friend there too well i mean yeah why do not you put both of both of those ideas in into that that paragraph and say you will have a look at both or something if you want to do it i i personally do not want to mess with writing files or anything the moment yeah i want to do it superficially like the thing that i was thinking there is well is that once it is done for a f you know one meeting it is done and it is there yeah it is file text file or x m l or whatever it is but yeah just i do not know just it does not make any difference really either way to me it is like if it is fast enough on the fly then sure that is about the only issue i have with on the fly whether it is fast enough yeah i spoke to especially with java and all this other crap it is just if it is loading the file and doing all the rest and processing the p well it has already learned it anyway yeah yeah it is always it is is it right it is just a it is just a for loop really should be fine yeah yep yeah yep whether it runs out of memory yeah so should we all write a letter or 2 about future work as well yeah i included a future work in my own section a word or 2 but 0 right yeah yeah i just said i said what i have done so far and what i am going to do and some pro some issues yeah well maybe you could right maybe you could split that up and actually yeah that makes sense 0 like into each separate i know yeah i think you lose the yeah like here is what we have done already and then you know down here you might lose a bit of continuity if you do that though yeah that is what i was thinking but sometimes it is easier to have the top it in its own its sections if you see what i mean yeah act so you talk about speaker characterisation you say what you have done and okay i think that does make sense but maybe at the end maybe just a point form of you know things that we are still working on things that we will do maybe goals or something yeah yeah yeah something bullet pr bullet bullet points yeah that is right yeah yeah yeah maybe yeah maybe yeah because if you have a discursive thing here and then another discursive thing there yeah i know what you mean if they are not together you lose a lot of the the continuity i think yeah maybe you are right yep no yeah actually i will just but 0 that is true sounds good kay so apart from that yeah anything else anyone wants to talk about we are all half asleep are not we yeah burnt out yeah maybe asleep what yeah huh maybe asleep but so we are all still writing our summaries sending them to you you send it on to pernilla yeah snore yeah okay or or she will just take she can take it from now does not matter or do you want to or no how kind what okay i c i can yeah sure if you want to send them to me that is fine i do not know it does not matter for me either yeah okay actually no no n actually that is a good idea i will take one quick look over but try and get it as good as i think that we yeah yeah yeah you stick it together i mean if we both yeah she will shine it okay yeah and then send it on to us so we can nod yeah purely a formality yeah yeah yeah and correct back any he like things that i thought was wrong in english or whatever okay right yeah it like no okay we are changing dialog back to hello jean that is not that or whatever yeah no okay sounds good yeah i have not used my pen 0 0 it is sad i have i write wrote like 4 lines of whatever okay yeah 1230 tomorrow with 00 right okay s steve 0 steve 0 god yeah well i thought you had tomorrow off yeah 12 days and write yeah not much without any of us
no no yeah who wants to take notes today today 0 okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay i will take notes this time i guess what okay i will make funny drawings actually i guess 1st thing i just sort of did a really sort of brief yeah version of what we have to do version of what we have to do yeah actually i will just thank you very interesting start of the meeting looking now maybe okay yep actually for that i was just copying the one straight out of the other documents so it is all whatever inaccurate okay yeah i see that it is fun 0 shit yeah okay i am not sure if we need to the outline of the prototype i mean what are we going to put into that well just sort of well the thing is yeah we are going to be touching on all that during the other part for the progress yeah because that is basically what we are doing here is not it the whole yeah well it was just something that he had mentioned in the previous like just to sort of have a prototype together and sort of just saying that you know we could potentially do that yeah we could this could be just some let us just describe some screenshots yeah sure like the thing is i was thinking even the stuff that i was doing i mean just throw the screenshots in there when you talk about what you are doing yeah we can just ignore that 0 yeah 0 actually yeah i have that at the very end screenshots but that did not show up on this page so it is not even relevant yeah you can have yeah it says screenshot there and stuff but you need to have screenshots by the thing each one or have just a bunch of them in one section anyways so yeah this is just very general structure i guess from this we can just pop in our little blurbs yeah i have written the top of segmentation one all right cool nice so i do not know if there is other stuff that you think should be done to this i could do that before i may i look to you guys otherwise did someone else want to throw it together actually i can probably still throw it together if you want put your parts into this one into this one i think finile should do perfectionist right yeah that is a good idea let us just cut out the middle yeah exactly she is not going to tell us you are going wrong anyways and i am being like i do not know a native speak of english i guess yeah well i mean also you want to keep going with that i am happy to do some as well i have lots of time tonight and then we will send it to you you can do the final review yeah i will look at it like when my usual working hours are like from 120 clock to 30 clock or something i know you are always online it always makes me feel bad because when i go to bed at like one you are still online you never go to bed just leave your computer on maybe you pretend always busy actually not so maybe but i am never online on the morning so i noticed that no one is yeah so okay so i will send it off to you yeah do what you want to do with it 1st and then i will savatage yeah and i will send it out to you again was there anything else we wanted to add to the timeline i mean essentially was what like you can not see it right there here is the old one 0 there is more well that is the original one 0 this is the one that okay yeah yeah which just copied straight out probably want to think about if we want to change the goals and stuff i think one thing that we could probably skip totally is removing things from the audio files that is what i thought as well i mean do we are we actually going to attempt that no i do not think so either yeah i think that is going to be we do not even know how to approach that yeah yeah it is a good thing to have to say we get what we could have done if we had more time good future work things and it is the conclusion yeah it is a final report should have we had more time yeah yeah yeah that is right unless we discover some sort of time warp thing yeah yeah but that is definitely so maybe i mean we should we should definitely well we could probably not put it under this heading but put it under changes since the initial specification and say we did not we decided the time is too short or we felt there were more important things that are yeah i do not worry about it we prefer to concentrate on the main yeah and i think we should probably comment explicitly on the mouth on the milestones here as well and say we managed to do yeah or some of them were a bit later yeah yeah we could even have a section like we have not really prototype go we yeah yeah exactly nicely best file on target or more or less yeah yeah it is pretty good sure well he does not have to know exactly yeah i mean yeah i mean it is not finished but so i have only got 6 days to do the topic segments you do not have any sp lp assignments do and you can say yeah we are still aiming for the development to be completely in march 8 speaking characterisation is supposed to be done already 0 really yeah 2 days ago are one of those something that you want to change and delete from our list of expectations give me a week and i will tell you the answer to that should we put a hint that something like that might happen into the document maybe their speaker characterisation may get slimmer yeah that is right i really want to do it we will not disappear it is not going to be difficult at least have all the information pop up that is already in the metadata path that is going to be no work that is true so it is definitely going to be something there we will not make it disappear but we might thin it down a bit but we might not you never know it might have time yeah we might turn out even talks the topic segmentation with lc seggin textiles basically done it just needs to be done it is tuned yeah tuned via search through the parameters but it is man and see what happens cool yeah sounds good okay i do not know we should probably change to the 3rd dance we should probably do another responsibility of packages as well that is what he hinted that we should also indicate who is responsible for what for that one well i could probably just copy that straight over the other one as well yeah pretty much that is essentially the same as it was maybe more detailed specifically well you could put you know i do not know should we i do not know do you think mike but are things that we have together should we i mean now we have you heard it and you have the other but what about them remove disfluous shape 0 well if we are skipping the audio one and that things are not easier yeah we just keep it together on the paper there right now and just see what have you taken any more of a look at it no not the disqualysis okay you could probably i know if we will have time to look at that before tomorrow yeah yeah it might be yeah like i will claim one you claim the other for the search things and then we could leave that one as that one we could leave that one as a joint one yeah and that would be good have you managed any further on the search thing i found finally today something that i can build it in i should have something for tomorrow i should at least at least have a gui i will be wiring that in hopefully tomorrow morning so i want to get something i want to see this i want to get it together i have an image in my mind i just want to see it on the thing and then get a nice screenshot yeah my intent is to work on these things tomorrow a bit more as well so i do not know if we send it in on the afternoon maybe i can add a few sentences to what i am done well it does not really matter i mean you can write the sentences 1st as well i mean with the intention that is done yeah yeah and also sometimes it is a bit of a motivating factor too i mean you write down the words and the ideas as 0 okay well do this all falls together how about the underlying data for it for the inverted file how is that coming along well i still struggling with java stuff yeah but work on it i think i was wondering about that is i have not looked at it so much but if in any case know how we could do that like from the extract words that you did also in extract time stamps and stuff is it yeah just when he pulls up the segments yeah part of that one of the attributes we do get attributes call the method to get attributes it returns a list of attributes search through those and then just you can that will tell you what attributes it has got okay and then you can even do it automatically or you can just hard code and say look get me the timestamps so you just say get a different view and put i think the method is called get attribute it is called start time and end time okay and that will tell you the start time and end times okay i think it returns a double okay so now i could just put it in some yeah that is on the the the non right element what on the the object is a non right element i think okay so have you made in yeah i will take a look at that so is there have you made another m browser is there something that i should there is but i have not made a lot of changes to it so i might just delete what i have done and copy again from yours because i am sure you have probably made some changes already not since you looked at last 0 really so friday no but i went to the night that is the time okay i thought you said that you had written some things that maybe have caused some bugs and that you were going to fix those on the weekend or something no okay okay okay okay okay yeah although there is stuff out there that actually i am going to try and minimize the amount of changes at the make damn browser should not be an issue actually just to clarify last week when we were talking about our search results like if we have topics as well as transcripts as well as those other summaries do we want separate result panes for each of those or do we want them all in one pane with like an icon or a different color or something to indicate what type of result they are so that when they click on that it is going to go to the relevant thing like just if they check all 3 say topics summaries blah blah blah blah have 3 different windows come up or 3 like some at the moment is there at the moment is there a window that comes up or is that a 2nd result pain or is that you know does the window get larger i thought what we sort of discussed last week was to have it sort on the same window so it will be on the search window the bottom half of the search window i do not know if we still want to keep it that way but that is that is what it is going to be working with so it is just like you click those and it is just loads up you know splits that thing into 2 or 3 or whatever it is 12 or 3 depending on which ones you check and then so if we want to do it that way you know like it probably does not matter too much just trying to think if there is going to be any other issues down the road depending on well have you confused me do you have 3 separate windows for the 3 separate different types of results no just just pains just result pains okay not 3 different no no no no no so it is just when we click you know topics and summaries for what we want to search then a little you know there will be 2 result pains yeah so one for topics one for i do not know really tabs i quite like the idea of tab in that but then you can not see all of them at the same time but you would not want to compare the result the topic one topic result with one summary result well it is no but the thing is if you are looking if you check them both you want to see all the results yeah yeah if you get results for the same meeting yeah exactly yeah so the summary and the topic and then transfer yeah that is true so yeah or we could just put them all into one result pane on that same window i mean we could order them by meeting for example 0 yeah i guess that was the other thing whether we want to have this reorder by columns yeah well i mean that is a lot of work you know that is a lot of work the 1st question is do we want to order them how do we want to order them in the 1st place yeah i think yeah probably by meeting makes most sense i mean essentially they are in time order so you know that kind of makes more sense yeah maybe we should do that yeah yeah should be easy well i do not know it should be for a loser i guess yeah why do not you just color code those yeah the results to sometimes in a case like that like i have run across in other languages just that it is hard to tell what kind of object it was originally once it is put into like a list box or something it is hard to tell whether it was a transcript or whatever and then if we are highlighting something in a transcript window it may be difficult to get that information back once it is just in a list box an item in a list box so no but if you whereas if it is coming from if you do it straight from you know you get the result and then there is a if statement saying straight on the rock bottom level saying if you found a segment then color print it in red or whatever yeah yeah as opposed to yeah yeah it is just like from past experience there is goofy little things that happen and it just does not let you save certain things and it is just kind of trying to do a different kind of to go to a different window so if you want to go to the actual highlight the transcript or highlight the topic or highlight this only at that point that is sort of where it starts getting a little bit tricky because you are working with an event handler within the one panel or list box or whatever it is 0 i see yeah there are ways around it but you know whether i will be able to figure something else like that before tomorrow yeah i know or delegates or whatever yeah i mean at the moment it works it works with highlighting in the transcript window does not it i think he was saying that as long as we implement that interface it should work with anything that we do like highlighting i think that was saying that what do you mean it should work with anything was not jonathan saying something about that i think it was just like as long as we implement one of these interfaces for this particular type of window we should be able to have that highlighting happen i do not know i do not know anyways okay yeah i mean the whole what fills the transcription box and all of these boxes is a special sort of pain made by night okay i am not sure what it is called now some no i do not know what it is called and that comes with a whole load of highlighting extras as well as i said you know if you left click on something for example it highlights automatically okay so maybe it comes with something okay maybe i should use that as well in one yeah yeah it is called a night text pain or something no i am sure there is not pain in it night i do not know text area yeah something like that nom text areas most of the things are called nom yeah why yeah why night object model okay i think that makes sense what night object model i think that is what i think okay with the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the as as i am i am i am  wean write it back to html i mean xml if we take if we did the processing writing it back to xml i thought we were just going to have that as words like not as xml just sort of as a as a blog of text what was that done text file well transcript no because then we need all the other data if you want to keep it a transcript you will very much limit what you can do with it if it is not in xm yeah there is some bizarre method that puts things back into xml for why do we want it in xml there i mean i thought we would just selectively write the xml that we have got so as opposed to 0 select what we want just take bits of the xml take certain segments yeah only print out certain segments and segments that we want just selectively at the moment it prints out all of them we will just put an if loop in it that leaves out some of the print segments yeah yeah yeah not store it at all whatsoever that yeah that is what i think we yeah that is sort of what we are actually but this makes more sense but that will mean that you can only do things on actually know because you can do things on word level so yeah that is fine yeah if we are going to do the xml then fine that is yeah we are not really well i mean we are not going to do much more than just look at the the like the text will remove these frequencies because we are not going to search it and we are not going to like listen to it you know since we are not doing the audio thing yeah so i guess just displaying it is right but yeah yeah you need to do much more with it no but it is like well how would we display the like if we do take this frequencies out and just you know create a text file take the displeance you know it would just be a blurb like a summary it will not look like it will not say speaker x says this speaker y says that is because it says unless we extract that out of the file when we create the text file yeah then it will look ugly probably because it will look just black and white that is true it is probably the best thing too as you said i do not think it is going to take long to produce anyway it is just another i mean these meetings are not endlessly long it is just words and to print all of them out selectively it does it on the fly you do not it yeah so then it just goes through and says if this word equals that print yeah just a bunch of this thing you could nearly do it together with the transcription with the original transcription having run parallel so if certain you know if it is a proper word print it on both both panes and if it is not proper word then print it only a one but i mean that is that is fancy yeah you probably could actually it is probably not that or difficulty just in fact the code out a bit yeah but then you know the good way of doing it not together is that if someone does not want to look at the you know the chop file then you do not ever have to produce it yeah exactly but i mean you can you know you can write we can write something like we will try and do it on the fly and observe if that is going to take too long if it is going to take too long well think about writing it to a file should not i it is just there there would just be if statements were not they yeah i was just thinking as well i mean we could probably even use like xslt to kind of just transform it and you know flip it into what is it just transforms like style sheet xml 0 right and then it is kind of like there is usually things built in to well it should be built into java i mean to process xml into like and just creates whatever file it is you can whatever file it is going to be in it has been a couple of years since i have looked into anything like this but that might even be an easier way and then that way we could even pre process that beforehand i do not know well we do not want to have to do that right although on the fly it is a big put it back into xml with java even trying to read it in xml with java was complicated enough i gave up to it 0 really to vaulted back to night stuff because it was much much much easy yeah so if we can do it with night stuff do it with night stuff yeah okay java trying to do it it was just so complicated it was ridiculous i do not believe it you have to start defining object models like the like the thing and getting it is serious it was insane weird things i was thinking i might try and talk to who is it jonathan and jean like just to see what they what system they used to develop this stuff because it would be nice to have all the tools there and just like have the object model and just kind of like plug and play with everything and just to actually use a system you know at a higher level rather than kind of you know playing around with a little bit of code and modifying their code and doing this and that it would be nice to just sort of see what they are doing so i might try and contact them see if there is any other hints they could give us just to get things i do not know moving at a higher level i guess it seems to be more interesting to use it as a real developer would it just seems like a little tinkering here and there and just having a couple things that is what programming is all about i am afraid no no it should not be it should be higher level it should be conceptual and coming up with the brilliant ideas and then just bringing those to reality yeah maybe that is the higher people well i mean yeah why do not you put both of those ideas into that paragraph and say you will have a look at both or something if you want to do it i personally do not want to mess with writing files or anything at the moment i want to do it superficially like the thing that i was thinking there as well is that once it is done for one meeting it is done yeah it is there it is a file text file or xml or whatever it is i do not know it just it does not make any difference really either way to me it is like if it is fast enough on the fly then sure that is about the only issue i have with on the fly whether it is fast yeah i expect it will we especially with java and all this if it is loading the file then doing all this and processing well it has already loaded it anyway yeah it is after it is related it is just a full loop really yeah whether it runs out of memory yeah yeah so should we all write a letter or 2 about future work as well yeah i included a future work in my own section but i just said i said what i have done so far and what i am going to do yeah well maybe you could maybe you could split that up and i will like into each yeah like here is what we have done already and then you know down here lose a bit of continuity if you do that that is what i was thinking sometimes it is easier to have the top in its own intersections so you talk about speaking characters and see what kind of i think that does make sense but maybe at the end maybe just a point form of you know things that we are still working on things that will do yeah that is right bullet points yeah maybe yeah because if you have a discursive thing here and then another discussive thing there they are not together you lose a lot of the yeah maybe yeah yeah sounds good anything else you all have sleep are not we birds out both maybe asleep yeah maybe asleep so we are all still writing our summaries sending them to you you send it on or she will just take she can take it from now or do you want to or no what okay i can yeah sure if you want to send them to that is fine i do not know it does not matter for me either actually that is a good idea i will take one quick look over try and get it as good as i think that we yeah you stick it together and she will shine it yeah and then send it on to us so that we can nod pure a formality and correct back any like things that i thought was wrong in english or whatever it is like no we are changing dialog back hello jean okay that is good yeah i have not used my pain 0 i have it was like 4 lines okay yeah in 1230 marl with 0 0 0 0 god good job you are in my mind yeah yeah 12 days are right yeah how much of a new emm s