funky sh stuff like that wonder how much of the meetings is talking about the stuff at the meetings yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah look at all this stuff man yeah okay okay right so what do we need to talk about should we has anybody well should we just go around and everyone says what they d what they have been doing how far they have got has anybody done anything not a lot no well i hope so yeah okay sounds like you have done some stuff you better start okay so well i have got a browser now which whoops yeah kay already gone good start 0 i do not mind as well yeah good at this this was not a good start okay okay sorry yeah so yeah we have go a browser we have which comes up automatically with a transcription box and the topics and then when you go on the menu you can select a summarisation box which pops up and an audio player right and a s i think the search works as well so you could pop up a search and it loads up just the background window is empty and so when you start you have to either open open a particular observation or do a search and open it through that does that make sense the transcription box has got a summarize but button which does not do anything yet now i wonder wh how we want to do you know we want a pop up window with the speaker characterisation either we could do that you know when does the pop up come d yeah either we can when you click on the the i d any sort of i d in the transcription box or we can put an extra button extra few buttons next to the summarize button so that you actually in the transcription box but so like you click on a button and then that opens whatever that speaker characterisation is the problem is the r the left click is already used because it highlights that that part of speech or whatever that what he has been saying you know the the left click highlights it the l the left click or the right click yeah right can you use double click or so that you can i do not know what happens when you double click actually but that would be a bit annoying if you have left click for one thing and double click for something else yeah i do not know i think so yeah when you left click it you can for example set set the marker there so that the the audio goes from there i think so we can not put it on left click we could put it on a right click we could for example have a little menu that pops up yeah it might be quite good i suppose so right click on at menu you know and you can click on speaker characterisation up pops the window yeah what else could we have in the menu that is a good point okay i do not know yeah nothing else so otherwise you just have a right click or do you have have a everything yeah yeah but i do not know about you but usually in windows right click does not do anything does it yeah is a window it opens a menu a menu yeah yeah yeah so yeah and then yeah it is why and so it might be a bit weird the fir to just start bringing up stuff and then it yeah so but that would be yeah yeah if you just yeah yeah to just have the sort of main same sort of idiom throughout kinda yeah so yeah or just you know or just the button yeah i guess a button button makes a bit more sense cause otherwise you do not really know that 0 what if i right click now what happens then it is like more if it is visual well no no you still have the menu the menu pop up that yeah yeah yeah it is more well 0 yeah it is more obvious is not it w what you can do do you see my it is more idiot proof is not it it has got a button yeah yeah that is right yeah yeah that is true yeah it is more intuitive really is not it yeah but then it is not as extensible but well we we can have both but whatever like if we want to add more things in the future then we have to well new buttons maybe maybe add more buttons i do not know whereas a menu type thing is more flexible that way but we are probably not going to be adding too many things yeah well in i guess in in in meeting browser one one okay exactly you can have a menu instead of a button but this why i do not think it yeah i know i know true true in the beta version yes but actually what we could do is on in that menu as well we could have an option that pops up a window with all the all the meetings that that user has been in like a search for that user yep is that going to be useful or too much or i guess so so what did you part of the m the menu that comes down it says give me all your meetings or something yeah so y when you right click on it 11 option will be give me all your meetings characterize the speaker yep or is that too much i mean yeah i do not i mean it w it is more like part of the i guess so it is an idea get to use my pen browsing sort of thingy more than the speaker characterisation as m steve mentioned yeah yeah that is true yeah i do not really know how to involve the speaker characterisation into the browsing yeah yeah yeah that is true actually it would nice to have it inconnec interconnected like yeah but maybe tie that in with dialog acts or something as well i mean speaker characterisation tied into i do not know di just some way to sort of leverage that information like we have it we are doing it but what how does it help the browsing or what can it give us in the browsing or you mean the the speaker characterisation yeah 0 well yeah i mean yeah i do not know about that i mean it is the speaker characterisation is a bit like you said i mean it is like a nice thing we do not we are not actually sure what the user wants with it but it is interesting so why not give it to him yeah yeah right yeah well i i think we should do it i mean yeah i mean i guess maybe we could have that as another thing of like well if you get the speaker characterisation that someone s talks a lot in a certain topic and then if you i do not know click on that topic you get everything that is in that topic or whatever yeah i mean that is that is still another level further and in that way but i do not know i mean we are not even there yet you know it does not even does not even pop up the speaker characterisation yet no no no yeah 0 yeah y we have to 1st define what what happens when you click on a user we have to have a speaker characterisation 1st before we cross any of the other bridges yeah yeah yes so yeah there you go true yeah so should we try try to do a right click when you then yeah alright why not yeah is that just from the main main window sorry even if only one thing comes up is that is that from any particular window like if we want to sorta get like if we were on the users versus like topic or something have a right click from for these various things to yeah yeah yes wait yeah there is a 2nd thing about the topics the topic window we want to somehow click be able to click on a topic and it pops up with all the meetings that contain that right yeah yeah yeah yep so we could do that in a similar way do it right click as well okay so and so this lot is for okay yeah and to have a different menu for our now it is consistent throughout so yeah yeah on the t speaker so yeah and then this lot is on th so we have basically 2 options of of browsing the meetings is by either searching and opening individual observations and when then we have the interlinking by right click basically right actually yeah like another common thing like if we have it so it is set up that if you double click and it goes to a default thing on the menu i mean that is kind of a typical kinda action that would happen double click if you double click on a particular topic or something then it goes to sort of a like a default view 0 so it will be like all the cases of that topic either whatever we decide the default to be whether it is in all meetings or just in one meeting and just show up the the particular instances of that topic in a meeting like i am just thinking to have the default there so if somebody knows exactly what they want to do and we know that that is the most common thing that is going to happen so the double click will do that and so save them the trouble of right clicking and choosing the item on the menu yeah i do not see there is anything obvious that was that would be able you know that would be yeah well it might come to us as we start playing with it yeah what was that i did not quite understand do you mean like we have the the right click menu just let th you will have the menu right click it but instead of like have a default double click yeah so if there is a de so it will be a choice from the menu but yeah exactly 0 so and it figures out what is the most common use to double click yep yeah yeah 0 okay like i do not know show the speaker characterisation for instance yeah yeah but then then there is the problem with a lot of windows popping up again yeah or just i do not know and they pop up without you even being quite sure what it is you know what i mean yeah but if you do double click on something do not you expect something to happen then yeah yeah maybe sort of well i do not know sometimes you do it by accident though you 0 go away yeah especially if you have a touch pad yeah exactly stop coming up well then they close it yeah you know it is not it is not the end of the world yeah no it just goes 0 yeah yeah 0 yeah yeah t throw stuff throwing out the window yeah well i will i will check what it does on on double click at the moment yeah okay cause i think it might do something yeah that was good start but but yeah but i do not i do not i d really do not see anything obvious that that would yep i mean if you can think of something that i do not know sorry i guess it depends on the yeah what you are clicking on obviously sorry yeah another thing single audio files do we want to use them or not we do not know yet do we i do not think do you mean the single channel yeah single channel that is single channel files single channel do we want them i mean probably not but we might need them for disfluencies if we try do it in audio no well yeah yeah okay yeah yeah i mean we might use them while wo to work with them but do we want to integrate them in so that when you browse you can here is but at the moment no but yeah we might want to be able to say 0 just give me what that person is saying do you though i mean it is not going to make much sense if you do not listen to it on its own d do you no unless you can not hear it properly or something does it somebody is talking over somebody else or something well p w we just say no for now and put it in later or something no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah cause otherwise it will the it will increase the amount of data we need by a lot will not it yeah therefore print will be bigger yeah wh what do people think in general about the windows cluttering that he is mentioned do you think do you think it is really that bad i think we probably need that though to have the f the full flexibility we need to have that there but yeah that is what i feel as well i mean i am i am very much i w i want to have everything customisable although the thing is typically though is someone going to have 5 windows open at the same time probably not probably just 2 or 2 or 3 of whatever whatever they are looking at like dialog acts to whatever characterisations probably not no yeah 2 or 3 maybe but yeah but yeah it depends i mean i i really want to put the summary in somewhere you know and the summary for example is typical you open the window you read through it you might click on you know close it again straight away yeah but it would be good to have it there yeah true yeah no i think it is i think it is fine but well could not we i mean you probably i do not know if you want to have like the the full transcription and the summary at the same time yeah i think what we are doing is fine so maybe you can just like choose the s same window for transcription and summary so like have a tab there i was just thinking of tab for something like that choose on choose one yeah yeah tabs are nice yeah tabs are good i like tabs yeah mozilla style that true yeah yea yeah yeah yeah yeah that is right i am not sure yeah i do not know how easy it is does anybody know how to do that but i dunno but or can you do that in java no i do not think java knows how to do that really 0 you should be able to i do not know do you reckon maybe yeah you probably can yeah but but i am sure yeah yeah i am sure you could do anything if you really knew what you are doing yeah yeah but i do not know it is a bit of a cripple with java is windowing tool kit the 8 is sometimes it is a bit of a cripple yeah i can have a look yeah yeah or just i do not know but yeah that that might be an idea yeah yeah change the contents of the same window like from transcription to summary yeah yeah yeah probably yeah yeah or even just have buttons on it toggle buttons or something on the tool bar for that window just something yeah yeah a lot of different ways we can do it it does not does not have to be a tab or whatever that could probably just going to be yeah no no it could be like transcription summary like 2 buttons and you just press on which ever you want yeah yeah exactly yeah or check marks even have 2 of em checked and send yeah yeah that will reduce the number of windows we needed would not it yeah yeah which is quite good cause otherwise photoshop has a lot of windows if you ever use photoshop it has got loads and you are always g forever going no get out of the way yeah there is always stuff in the way is not there yeah exactly yeah so yeah i do not like pop ups but i mean people get used to it i mean when you use a windows or linux for that matter you have a lot of windows open yeah you do yeah and you manage them yeah yeah true yeah unless can you i do not suppose you can minimize them and stuff like that can you can you do that i guess that yeah 0 yeah yeah you can minimize em yeah yeah okay okay well it is alright then yeah of course you can actually yeah it has got everything yeah yeah like a lot of these can be like once we get the disfluencies out then we can you know yeah have transcript without the disfluency transcript with the disfluent disfluency yeah that is true they are they are definitely have all these you know have all these sort of using the same window and so we can put a lot of and probably mutually whate distinct yeah yeah they are definitely going to be in the same window yeah he is close exclusive exclusive yeah yeah that that was the plan for the disfluencies anyway yeah so d yeah do you want to do that with summaries in put the summaries in in the same window mutually exclusive with yeah well could i do not know would transcripts b sounds reasonable to have like transcripts like maybe 3 alternatives then like full meeting meeting without disfluencies and summarize right summary yeah you want to do that yeah that kinda makes sense yeah yeah yeah sounds good yeah and finally the prototype he spoke about what kind of prototype could we produce by the end of february because i am i am just you know i go into the lab and i say right what am i going to change today okay right you know and it kind of just it just develops i am not aiming for anything do we want to aim for something i am i am pretty much getting there anyway to be honest it is not it is not going to be a lot more work yeah i guess it is i mean just to try it and i mean for us to to be able to do something that we can include with your thing so so eas yeah yeah yeah that is what we need yeah yeah yeah 0 something just slightly more than just that on its own yeah so we can plug it in and yeah yep yeah just so see the integration works sort of between the different compo true yep definitely so i guess that is what we need to aim for i think that is kinda as well is not it really yeah seeing it seeing it sort of start to do stuff rather than just be 0 right i see a prototype with a gui yeah well if i guess i mean that was probably our intention but we might not have written it down so i guess i know yeah yeah yeah yeah actually is the code accessible like the the gui stuff that you have done yeah like can we just like copy like the latest stuff out of your directory somewhere or like if we are going to just try and like take a look or something try and just plug some stuff i think you can if probably not i do not know can you access other people is you can make it if you make it world readable then anybody can access it well if you just tell us the directory and just make the file readable then we c know the directory to get in then and just yeah yeah sure that might be might be an idea i do not know if it is readable at the moment but you can sure have a d have a look yeah no i i it no they are not world readable i think by default they are i think really yeah it not the default they are only default then only you can read them by default or alright yeah alright okay you can see them but you can not read them kay okay alright right well i will make that readable then okay yeah so the directory is my number or you could just email to us okay yeah yeah okay right well this is not difficult yeah right okay what is your number okay it is in all the emails yeah not 04 okay your number yes 04555 okay 60 say that again 04 0455560 and then it is and then there is a folder n l s s d n l s s d and it is called the m browser the m browser for meeting yes m for meeting lower case hope you hope you never have to look in my directory yeah it is just pure chaos s mine is serious chaos really no i am i am extremely organized you see i have got folders for everything i love folders 0 yeah files everywhere okay yep so that is me done someone else want to talk about their stuff do not all jump at once i could tell you what i done in s p 2 yeah right 0 i do not know i basi i s started like browsing a bit just like trying to see if there is anything out there to use s sort of just w what where you doing again yeah searching yeah well yeah all the searching stuff yeah what was on it like the the in inverted file stuff and the next search query and all that the search okay we are doing the yeah yeah so it just found a tutorial but i inverted search in indexing but i have not read it yet okay yeah so you could probably just use that code like that was behind the question she asked him earlier indexing but yeah just you know the re using code and stuff was just like okay good 0 yeah 0 right yeah 0 that is pretty much there is it 0 you found some code for it for the inde yeah well i do not know if it is usable apparently i can have a look th at it yeah alright but but i found some code for like from a tutorial about i indexing yeah yeah of making alright 0 great whatever cool cool yeah yeah so even if it does not work you can jiggery pokery around and make it work yeah probably yeah yeah y yeah we will probably still have to do some other file manage while i do not know creation yeah yeah messing around still though all sorts of nonsense but yeah yeah by the basics is 0 okay that is good yeah yeah yeah yeah that is handy yeah yeah i guess that is it so you think it should not be too difficult i do not know i am i was a bit worried about when well when he talked about this with the file messing around with files i mean how much do we actually need to do like extracting things from the x m l files and stuff to be able to do the indexing 0 i see yeah yeah you have to convert it to some sort of format i suppose yeah i have been trying to g write something to read the x m l and get rid of it and i can get rid of it but i am having trouble putting it anywhere else so it will come up on the screen for the moment i have not managed to put it into a vector or whatever in java to play with it huh okay okay right okay but i guess it is not very difficult okay what are you writing in java or yeah okay yeah in java yeah right yeah yeah you know a bunch about file things i mean you should look at look have a look at the the browser code then because you know they already extract for example transcripts yeah yeah i am sure they do put it into a window at least yeah yeah it is good idea yeah 0 yeah i will i am sure it is nothing difficult i am sure i am making a meal of it at the moment actually yeah i guess i mean it was a good point you had that like collaborating with the file things yeah i mean if you already started on on doing your stuff i guess we can yeah yeah absolutely yeah should share as much as possible yeah libraries yeah yeah should we i do not know meet up and see what we could do i mean i do not know see what you have done and see what we need when we know more of what we need maybe yep right next week sometime yeah yeah or what do we need yeah yeah yeah exactly exactly i actually have not done anything this week cause this week has been manic yeah so you are still working i see yep but well whatever it was last week then yes exactly same yeah what do you mean yeah i mean betwe i sup yeah this week is only 2 days old well 0 the the the week as it as is rather than the proper week do you know what i mean yeah do you know that it has been all a bit manic the last m the last yeah right well well you are in s p n l p and s p 2 right yeah that is right yeah so yeah yep yeah that is where i am at and then we had to do an i r p whatever it was last week as well which is only a page long but it is quite difficult to write a page yeah yeah yeah 0 yeah 0 that is complete rubbish anyway more diffi it was it was not marked but it was i had to sit there and think about it for a bit which is a bit irritating never mind just so stupid yeah but s p n l p yeah that is fun 0 yeah 0 yeah okay so yeah i was thinking that we can probably get start attacking this seriously and then just yeah we are going to meet up yep yeah hopefully have something by next week that we can sorta try integrating into the gui okay yeah think that should be possible well ye the browser as i use it now or as you know cause it is now it was there when i took it uses the the n x t search to get the data out of the out the files okay why which i think is odd but i am not quite sure how it works yet i do not quite understand it so when it when it to get the data i for example to get the summarisation data you have to search for i think the i d s or something yeah that is pretty bizarre is not it yeah well i guess that is how it works they have got d that is pretty bizarre so they do not you know they do not say look in that and that folder but they say search everything yeah yeah that is pretty bizarre well they did say it was not the most efficient okay 0 it does load up quite quickly very clearly yeah so you know it is not too bad okay yeah but you know you could have a look at them but it what what is it like a window where you have to wr write the search query or is it just what is behind it so or how does it work then no this is not the actual search d okay this is just when you open what you know to load the transcript for example to find the transcript for a certain meeting yeah yeah it does does an n x t search for the string i do not know transcript or text or whatever wh okay 4 and it w it li it just has an open variable transparent s list whatever find everything that has got that and then load yeah yeah so i do not know if you have looked at the search query s language but it is like a dollar a text say yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah cause that is the the declares a variable does not it and then they keep okay yeah and then yeah because every every of all of these these files have got tha an i d and all the transcript files have got the string i do not know what it is words or text or something in it so it just searches for those files okay right vaguely when you like you is there a open thingy or like well what did you 2 do to like how did you figure out that this uses n x t search like is it so open well it is in the code just that it you know it yeah you define a search object and then you search on that string okay okay i had to figure out how to how to do the same thing for the summary that is how i 0 see obvious i had to i had to understand how to do the transcript how they did the transcript to do the summary myself so did you have to write it in the way that they wrote it is that what you did yeah just search for a specific string right okeydoke so you could just you know you could use that when you if you want to take the data out and put it somewhere fish the data i was just thinking that yeah yeah yeah if you have a a question about w what the p the code means or where to find the code that you want to you know whatever you want to do then just send me an email i can explain it yeah have you annotated your code nicely okay 0 yeah not yet actually in the moment it has got a load of rubbish because the the the browser that i used from this from you know that they gave us had a lot of extra stuff in and i have not dared throwing out to through out all the functions i have not you know that i do not need just in case right right yeah just in case mission critical exactly yes so they are all in there ye still yeah a lot of rubbish but they will be get will be chucked out right at the end i think commen commenting it out one bit at a time and running it does it work yeah yes exactly yes yeah m yeah okay get rid of that next yeah yeah precisely 0 yeah good fun aye yeah 0 no yeah so basically we go and go and do some work really i think that is the the the answer to that is not it yeah seriously on the weekend the weekend the long and the short of it yeah the weekend is still 4 days off well f yeah yeah proba i am still at the bottom of the mountain yeah how many hours is this 0 yeah i do not actually have that much to do at the moment well should you find you want to explore any other perhaps you as your quantify raising yeah seriously well 0 dear yeah well i can not remember what i am supposed to do by the way yeah yeah that is what i got to work on am i supposed to do the summarisation thingibob i do not know no who was doing that 0 really you do 0 you saw it yeah damn yeah yeah well i will do that then these can be changed as well 0 okay yeah shall i do that then i mean i do not know it does not matter or you know if if you want to i mean it is just you know play around with some extra stuff you have some time why not it should not be to difficult i mean yeah so what courses should i pick to be not doing any work at the moment yeah well i am doing communications which we had one exercise and i have done that like 2 weeks ago that is nice and that is in in 2 weeks was that in informatics course or 0 yeah it is a 99 course as well or 10 or something yeah 0 it like digital okay okay yeah 0 so it is yeah and then then i am doing parallel programming languages and systems which we had one exercise as well and that is in like friday yeah well i am not doing any background reading so you know alright yeah sorry being lazy i am just being yeah fine yeah me too yeah i will be happy when this week is over have we these courses that we are okay 0 yeah yeah well i do not know is that about it then or anything else we need to discuss no i don did we want to meet before we talk to steve next week well i dunno we will probably get some work done over the weekend so i dunno if after d n l g or something maybe just have a little quick little update and just yeah yeah if you like yeah i do not know yeah we can always decide then i mean yeah well we can decide yeah exactly true yeah yeah yeah so what what are you planning to do over the weekend then search you are going to do the search and well sure why not yeah you are going to implement the search everything could not be that hard yeah well it will be you know still limited version of you know the next query search but no no will not be the whole thing then no like we can just decide sort of things that we do want to do yeah well actually most are just dialog acts and what else was there summary topic yeah it is just that i think we need to set ourselves some milestones because otherwise i do not know yeah you know yeah it will get behind schedule yeah pretty quick weeks will go by and like you are saying yeah well actually do we want to set a date for interim prototype specifically a date mine was well you decide i am not doing much for that prototype so the progress report is due on 23rd february of february 0 so so what is that 2 weeks basically yeah well how about we get it done by then i mean ish yeah then we can write about it in the in the interim report and s you know and then we have got something to show yeah yeah okay yeah just looking at my own deadlines see yeah that would be fine 0 and the the search interface maybe you should decide pretty pretty early what kind of things you want to be able to search for yeah and then if you want you can give that to me and i will i will build a u nice you know a few tick boxes and drop down menus was not like what you had now was not that pretty much what we agreed on no or was it just like that one 0 that is that is that does not exist okay tha that is completely cut and pasted okay that does not exist this is illusion or whatever nicely done though is not it is it semblance of reality yeah that is it is quite impressive actually yeah it is actually all these all these things are are nicked from you know all these drop down menus and tick boxes are nicked from google online yeah i see a screen shot of google 0 that is quite slow really it is just so much fun nice thought i am impressed maybe you should make it exist then yeah it is going to be a little difficult more difficult yeah i mean i was going to but you know the whole drop down menus and stuff what we want to search for is not quite agreed on we never agreed on what we want to be able to search for no it is not is it right true yeah so decide on that on over the weekend yeah do you want to you know just get together and think about the different types of search we could possibly do yeah and then then we could discuss it next meeting which options we really want to include yeah right that would probably involve researching the query language a bit as well to see what that can do yeah totally yeah it would be nice to i do not know meet up and you can sort of show us a bit what you know already so we do not sort of have to do all the work again of just like figuring out stuff 0 just like the basic know so like no know already what sorry just like accessing the corpus and stuff 0 yeah just like all the and seeing the code and just sort of how just see the basics of what you have done like just get a a quick look over and just the basics can take us for a tutorial sometime yeah yeah yeah or like like you know the class paths all that sort of thing like just just say okay well here is you know everything is basic in set up and then just yeah just jump right in yeah yeah i can do that yeah show you what bits the code yeah yeah next week sometime yeah that is cool yeah in the morning ah yeah well this time i am dictating the time cause i if i am not there you can not do anything yeah yeah yeah i know well thing is you know if yeah something like that could happen anytime cause yeah like my schedule is like a class break class break class you know that sort of thing yeah ah it is not going to take an hour to explain it you know so so yeah i know exactly exactly that is what i am thinking yeah yeah yeah so something like that and then if i have a class i can run off and do whatever i mean yeah pick a time yeah i i you know let me know whenever okay yeah actually monday monday might be good d yeah what monday yeah yeah what did you say next yeah this monday just anytime not at n not at noon or 2 or 4 monday afternoon no in between those is you know like one or 3 or 30 clock sure actually th yeah 3 is alright possibly it was what time is d n l g yeah 4 is not it it is full yeah unless you want to do it after the after d yeah yeah that is an option too yeah after d and a sure 3 is good though that is fine yeah i will but we have s whatever what is you what would you prefer yeah or 330 no just yeah well it does not matter for me that would be necessarily necessarily short that is going to be tight i mean 33 or after what we could 330 in the in the computer room in here and then we can just go stra if you can not can you get in the front door actually we can not get in there though maybe we ca 0 you have not got a key do you w we well we can get in through the through the the card the card door can none of you get in there yeah it what front door the k the f there is computer rooms in here the m s c computer lab and is in here in 4 buccleuch yeah i have not found that yet how about if we take a tour well if you find me i will show you where i will i will let us all in there and we can all go in there we can go look we can look at now afterwards yeah right yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah you do need to have a key for it like that is the thing it has got a lock door button okay okay just sort bang on it yeah somebody will answer it actually i was asking steve about that whether we can get in there whether he was going to get us access into the into what the computer room okay yeah it is only got it is crap it is only got about 4 or 5 computers in but it would do quite good for our job yeah print cause it has not very p not many people in it very often okay yeah right is there a printer in there too yeah there is fridge there and there is a photo copier with the code on it yeah yeah really a nice okay it is cool yeah really that would come in handy yeah ah 0 is that the photo copier i heard i heard about well i am just hey we could we could photo copy our assignment if we wanted to yeah i have got it in my computer yeah yeah whatever is in my computer well the comments i am thinking yeah so what time do we say i just think it is better to do it afterwards then we have all the time we need yeah that is true 0 right so after d n l g rather than have half an hour and then we will surely run out yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay as long as d n l g does not go late hopefully it is not that man so it will not matter 0 actually it is not even confirmed yet what was she does not even know what she is talking about yet i think what 0 it is true so maybe it does not happen at all yeah i do not know sounds like me it is reading week next it should be it should not be any well it is supposed to be next week is it really are you next week or the week how it is week 6 next week really 0 i do not think we have a reading week though the the i do not know we have one class at least when we like speech perception we do not have any lectures yeah that is canceled 0 really but i think we are having like all other classes so there is not point in having yeah i do not think there is an official i do not think there was an official one last semester i think it was just a bank holiday was not it something like that no i think it w i think one or couple classes were canceled some classes did and some classes did not yeah yeah which are a bit crap yeah exact yeah it is all a bit bizarre really they did not really know what was going on i think the under graduates had all were off totally i th no yeah i think it was up to the professor whether they did it or not well i do not feel like teaching yeah okay nah make em work i think yeah i think d i l will probably have one to make up for missing classes what d i l will probably have classes yeah yeah th we will probably have it yeah yeah last week okay yep let us meet monday yeah done yeah i guess that is it was there anything else do anyone know you want to like take care of this or should i take care of it 0 we trust you you can have it yeah yeah i do not know if there was something 0 i think he basically said the same things as in the comments if i could read it can you read that huh which one the top one do you really want multiple windows from a single lap yeah from a single application but most will probably want to go with defaults yeah yeah well that was i guess yeah yeah i think the comments are basically the same as what you said you would be s so it is yeah exactly and just the other comment about whether you want to do both speaker characterisation and topic segmentation 0 no yeah yeah that is about it nothing terribly exciting 0 yeah yeah okay and now we have 7% of the course already done yeah yeah alright is quite good okay right so so if y i think we need to tick the okay box right if you are okay with having 0 ooh oof exciting bu buzzes yeah okay signing off innit who yeah log off yeah okay should we turn these off then or what we are done now i is she still here yes you are yeah
i wonder how much of the meetings is talking about the stuff at the meetings yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah look at all these stuff man okay so what do we need to talk about should we just go around and everyone says what they have been doing is it if we have done anything no more about well i hope so yeah okay sounds like you have done so okay well i have got a browser now which whoops all ready go good stuff 0 i dropped mine as well good at this this was not a good story okay so yeah so yeah we have got a browser with which comes up automatically with the transcription box and the topics and then when you go on the menu you can select a summarization box which pops up and an audio player and i think the search works as well so you can pop up a search and it loads up just the background window so empty and so when you start you have to either open open a particular observation or do a search and open it through that that makes sense the transcription box has got a summarized button which does not do anything yet now i wonder how we want to do you know we want to pop up window with the speaker characterisation either we could do that you know when does a pop up come either we can when you click on the id any sort of id in the transcription box or we can put an extra button extra few buttons next to the summarize button so that you actually in the transcription box so that you click on a button and then it ups and whatever that speaker characterisation is the the left click is already used because it highlights that that part of speech or whatever that what he is the left click highlights it right so that double click you can you double click i do not know what happens when you double click actually that would be a bit annoying if you have left click for one thing and double click so yeah when you left click it you can for example set the marker there so that the audio goes from there i think so we can not put it on left click we could put it on the right click we could for example have a little menu that pops up yeah that might be quite good i suppose so right click on it menu and you can click on the screen click on speaker characterisation of the what else can we have in then menu that is a good point i do not know otherwise we just have a right click or do yeah yeah but i do not know about you but usually in windows right click is a window it opens a menu yeah yeah that is what anybody does here yeah it would be a bit weird for it to just start bringing up stuff yeah to just have the same sort of medium throughout yeah yeah or just the button i guess a button makes a bit more sense because otherwise you do not really know that 0 what if i right click now what happens then well no if you still have the menu yeah the menu pop up that well 0 yeah it is more obvious is not it it is more idiot proof is not it it has got a button yeah that is true yeah it is more intuitive well then it is not as expensive like you want to add more things in the future than we have i do not know what is a menu maybe maybe more flexible than that one yeah well i guess in meeting browser one one you can have a menu instead of a button right this one is but actually what we could do is in that menu as well we could have an option that pops up a window with all the meetings that that user has been in like a search for that user is that going to be useful or too much i guess so so part of the menu that comes down is says give me all your meetings or something yeah so when you right click on it one option will be give me all your meetings characterize the speaker yeah or is that too much i mean i guess so i mean it is more like part of the browsing sort of thing sort of thing more than the speaker characterization as steve mentioned yeah that is true yeah yeah it is true it would be nice to have it in connect interconnect yeah like maybe tie them in with dialog acts or something as well i mean speaker characterization tied into i do not know just some way to sort of leverage that information like we have it we are doing it but what how does it help the browsing or what can it give us in the browser what you mean the speaker characterization 0 well yeah i mean i do not know about that about that i mean it is the speaker characterisation a bit like he said i mean it is like a nice thing we do not we are not actually sure what the user wants with it but it is interesting so why not give it to him yeah yeah i think we should do it i mean i guess maybe we could have that as another thing of like well if you get the speaker characterization that someone talks a lot in a certain topic and then if you i do not know click on that topic you get everything that is in that topic or whatever yeah i mean that is still another level further i mean we are not even there yet no no no does not pop up the speaker characterization yet we have to 1st define what happened when you click on a user with the speaker characterization 1st before we cross the other yeah so should we try to do a right click menu then yeah all right why not is that just from the main sorry even if any one thing comes up is that for any particular window like if we want to sort of get like if we are on the users versus like a topic or something have a right click from for these various things yes wait yeah there is a 2nd thing about the topics the topic window we want to somehow click be able to click on a topic and it pops up with all the meetings that contain that right yeah yeah so we could do that in a similar way do it right click as well okay so this is for consistent throughout yeah on the speaker so yeah so we have basically 2 options of browsing the meetings is by either searching and opening individual observations and then we have the interlinking by right click basically right actually yeah like another common thing like if we have it so it is set up that if you double click and it goes to a default thing on the menu i mean that is kind of a typical kind of action double click if you double click on a particular topic or something then it goes to sort of a default so it will be like all the cases of that topic either whatever we decide the default to be whether it is in all meetings or just in one meeting and just show up the particular instances of that topic and just think to have the default there so if somebody knows exactly what they want to do and we know that that is the most common thing that is going to happen so the double click will not do that and just say from the trouble of right clicking and choosing the item on the menu i do not see there is anything obvious that would be able you know that would be it might come to us start playing with it what was that i did not quite understand do you mean like we have the right click menu yeah right click but instead of like have a default double click 0 so there will be a choice it figures out what is the most common use to double fee like i do not know show the speaker characterization yeah for instance then there is the problem with a lot of windows popping up again and they pop up without you even being quite sure what it is yeah but if you do double click on something do not you expect something to happen then yeah i mean sort of well sometimes you did it by accident i will go away stop coming up i do not need to close it yeah it is not the end of the world especially if you have a touchpad yeah yeah i will check what it does on on the double click at the moment yeah because i think it might do something but it is a good story but i do not i do not i really do not see anything obvious that i mean if you can think of something yeah okay i guess it depends on the yeah what you are clicking on yeah another thing single audio files do we want to use them or not we do not know yet do we do you mean single channel yeah single channel but single channel files do we want them i mean probably not but we might need them for disfluencies if we tried to do it in audio yeah yeah i mean we might use them in well to work with them but do we want to integrate them so that when you browse you can you might want to be able to say 0 just give me what that person is saying do you though no it is not going to make much sense if you listen to it on it do you unless you can not hear it somebody or something somebody is talking over somebody else or something well we will just say note for now and put it in later yeah yeah because otherwise it will increase the amount of data we need by a lot right yeah the footprint will be people yeah what do people think in general about the windows cluttering that you mentioned do you think i think we probably need that though we probably need that though to have the full flexibility we need to have that that is what i feel as well i mean i am very much i want to have everything customizable the thing is typically though is someone going to have 5 windows open at the same time probably not probably not no 2 or 3 of whatever whatever they are looking at like dialog acts whatever but yeah it depends i mean i really want to put the summary in somewhere you know and in summary for example it is typical you open the window you read through it you might click up you know close it again straight away yeah but it would be good to have it there i think it is fine but well could not we i mean you probably i do not know if you want to have like the full transcription and the summary at the same time so maybe you can just like choose the same window for transcription and summary it is like have a tab there i was just like a tab yeah tabs are nice yeah tab to get i like tabs yeah yeah that is right i am not sure yeah i do not know does anybody know how to do that can you do that i do not know i do not know i do not know i do not know i do not know i probably can but i am sure yeah i am sure you can do anything if you really knew what you are doing but i do not know it is a bit of a cripple java is windowing toolkit yeah sometimes it is a bit of a cripple i can have a look yeah yeah or just i do not know but yeah that might be an idea yeah contents of the same window yeah yeah from transcription to some way yeah yeah yeah yeah or even just have buttons on it toggle buttons or something on the toolbar yeah that could be a tab no no it could be like transcription summary like 2 betters and you just press on or checkmarks even have 2 of ones that will reduce the number of windows you needed would not it otherwise photoshop has a lot of windows if you have use photoshop it has got loads and you are always good loads and you are always forever going 0 get out of the way there is always stuff in the way it is not much people get used to it i mean when you use of windows or linux for that one or so you have a lot of windows open you do yeah yeah yeah unless can you i do not suppose you can minimize them and stuff like that yeah you can minimize them can you do that yeah yeah okay well that is all that yeah of course you can it is like a lot of these can be like once we get the disfluencies out then we can you know transcript without the disfluency transcript with the defluency yeah that is true they are you know have all these sort of using the same window and so we are definitely going to be in the same window yeah and probably mutually yeah that was the plan for the discrepancies anyway so yeah do you want to do that with some reason put the summaries in in the same window yeah yeah well could i do not know transcripts sounds reasonable to have like transcripts like maybe 3 alternatives then like full meeting meeting without displeases and summarize yeah yeah yeah yeah sounds yeah yeah yeah yeah and finally the prototype he spoke about what kind of prototype could be produced because i am just you know i go into the lab and i say right what am i going to change today you know and it kind of just it just develops i am not aiming for anything do we want to aim for something i am pretty much getting there anyway to know i am not going to be a lot more work i guess it is i mean just to try and i mean for us to be able to do something that we can include with your thing so easy yeah that is what we need yeah something just slightly more than just that on its own yeah yeah just so you see the integration works sort of between the different company yeah definitely so i guess that is what we need to do for i think that is kind of what he meant as well is not it yeah seeing it sort of start to do stuff rather than just be a sort of type of the gui yeah well i guess i mean that was probably our intention but we might not have written it down yeah yeah yeah actually is the code accessible like the gui stuff that you have done like can we just like the latest stuff out of your directory like if we are going to just try and take a look or something i do not know can you access other people if you make it well readable then anybody can if you just tell us the directory and just make the file readable then we know the directory to get in then yeah sure sure i do not know if it is readable at the moment but you can sure have it i think by default they are no they are not world readable they are not only default then only you can read them you can see them but you can not read them okay well i will make that readable then so the directory is my number or you could just email okay yeah well it is not difficult what is your number okay it is in all the emails yeah your number no 4 okay and 4 555 60 say that again 4 45556 and then it is and then there is a folder nl ssd and it is called the m browser the m browser yes m for meetings i hope you never have to look in my directory it is just pure chaos no i am extremely ordained i have got folders everything i love folding mine is serious chaos files everywhere so that is me then someone else want to talk about their stuff do not all jump at once i can tell you what i have done in sbt yeah right 0 i do not know i basically started like browsing a bit just like trying to see if there is anything out there to use sort of what were you doing again yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we just found a tutorial but inverted search indexing but i have not read it yet like that was behind the question she asked them right yeah we are using code and stuff it is all right well that is pretty much there is it yeah well i do not know if it is usable i have not looked at it but i found some code for like from a tutorial about indexing 0 right so even if it does not work you can jiggery plug it around and make it work yeah yeah we will probably stop to do some other file manager well i do not know crazy yeah yeah yeah some sort of nonsense but yeah the basics is it okay that is good yeah that is handy yeah so you think you should not be too difficult i do not know i am i was a bit worried about one well when you talked about this with the file i mean how much do we actually need to do like extracting things from the xml files and stuff to be able to do the indexing 0 i see yeah i have to convert it to some sort of format i have been trying to write something to read the xml and get rid of it and i can get rid of it but i am having trouble putting it anywhere else so it will come up on the screen but at the moment i have not managed to put it into a vector or whatever in java to play with it are you running in java yeah okay i mean you should have a look at the browser code then because you know they already extract for example transcripts yeah i am sure they do yeah i am sure i am making a main of it at the moment actually yeah i guess i mean it was a good point you had that like collaborating with foul things i mean if you already started on doing this stuff i guess we can should share as much as possible yeah libraries yeah yeah should we i do not know meet up and see what we can do i mean i do not know see what you have done and see what we need yeah when we know more what we need maybe next week sometimes yeah exactly so you are still actually have not done anything this week because this week has been manic yes exactly yeah i mean this week is only 2 days old well whatever it was last week the week as is rather than the proper week you know what i mean it has been all a bit manic but i was well you are an sp nlp and sp 2 right that is right yeah and then we had to do an irp whatever it was last week as well which is only a page long but it is quite difficult to write page yeah yeah 0 yeah that was it was not part but it was i had to sit there and think about it for a bit which is a bit yeah but sp and lp and lp so yeah i was thinking the weekend probably yeah we are going to be talking this seriously i am just you know hopefully i will have something by next week that we can sort of try integrating into the guru  yeah well the browsers i use it now or as you know it was there when i took it it uses the the the the the the next to get the data out of the out of the file which i think is odd but i am not quite sure how it works it i do not quite understand it so when it when it to get the data for example to get the summarisation data you have to search for i think the ids or something yeah that is pretty bizarre is not it yeah i guess that is like where it is that is pretty bizarre so they do not you know they do not say look in that in that folder yeah search everything that is probably so i mean well they did say it was not the most efficient it does load up quite quickly okay but you know is it like a window where you have to write a search query or is it just what is behind it no this is not the actual search this is just when you open you know to load the transcript for example to find the transcript for a certain meeting it does an nxc search for the string i do not know transcript or text or whatever for and it just has an open variable transcript just whatever find everything that has got that yeah so i do not know if you have looked at the search query language but it is like a dollar a text yeah because that is the guy could declares a variable does not it and then yeah because every every year of all of these these files have got an id and all the transcript files have got the string i do not know what it is words or text or something in it so i just search it for those files okay when you like is there a open thingy or what did you do to like how did you figure out that this uses next thing search like is it well it is in the code just that it you know you define a search object and then you search about string i had to figure out how to how to do the same thing for the summary that is how i i i had to understand how to do the transcript how they did the transcript to do the summary so did you have to write it in the way that they wrote it is that we did yeah just search for a specific string right okay so you could just do that you could just you know you could use that when you if you want to take the data out i was just thinking yeah yeah if you have a question about what the code means or where to find the code that you want you know whatever you want to do then just send me an email i can explain it have you annotated your code 0 yeah 0 yeah actually in the moment it has got a load of rubbish because the the the browsers that i used that they gave us had a lot of extra stuff in and i have not dared to throw out all the functions i have just in case yeah just in mission critical yes so they are all in there still a lot of rubbish but we will be chucked out at the end i think commenting it out one bit at a time and running it because it work yeah okay go ahead next yeah so basically so basically we got going to do some work really yeah that is the other the weekend the weekend is still 4 days off yeah 4 still at the bottom of the mountains how many hours is this i do not actually have that much to do it well should you find out of the other to explore any other how is your how is your quantifier raising yeah i can not remember what i am supposed to do by the way am i supposed to do the summarization thing about no who was doing it you do well i will do that then these can be changed should i do that then i do not know it does not matter if you want to i mean it is just you know play around with some extra stuff you have some time why not it should not be too different so what courses should i have picked we are not doing any work yeah and i am doing communications which we had one exercise and i have done that like 2 weeks ago that is in 2 weeks is that an informatics course yeah it is a 0 like digital 9 courses or 10 or something okay and then i am doing parallel programming languages and systems which we had one exercise as well and that is in friday well i am not doing any background meetings i will be happy when this week is over i will be happy when this course is over yeah yeah is that about it then anything else we need to discuss i do not know did we want to meet before we talk to steve next week well i do not know we will probably get some work done over the weekend so i do not know if after dnlg or something and then we just have a little quick little update and just yeah if you like we can always decide then yeah exactly yeah so what are you planning to do over the weekend then search you are going to do the search can i implement the search yeah could not be that hard yeah it will be you know still a limited version of you know the next query will not be the whole thing right like we can just decide sort of things we do want to do well actually moza just dialing acts and that is what i was it is just not i think we need to set ourselves some milestones because otherwise you know yeah it will get weeks will go by yeah pretty quick like you are saying well actually do we want to set a date for interim prototype specifically a date well you decide i am not doing much of that project the progress report is june 23rd february of february so what is that 2 weeks basically yeah well how about we get it done by then yes yeah then we can write about it in the interim report yeah you know now we have got something to show yeah yeah just looking at my own deadlines yeah 0 and the search interface maybe you should decide pretty early what kind of things you want to be able to search for and then if you want you can give out to me and i will build you nice you know a few tick boxes and drop down menus was not like what you had now was not that pretty much what we agreed on or was it 0 that is that is that does not exist that is completely cut and pasted that does not exist nicely done though is not it it is actually all these things are nicked from you know all these drop dye menus and tick boxes are nicked from google online a screenshot of google that is done i am impressed maybe you should make it exist then it is going to be a little difficult more difficult i mean i was going to but you know the whole drop down menus and stuff what we want to search for is not quite agreed on we never agreed on what we want to be able to search for no it is no yeah do you want to you know just get together and think about the different types of search we could possibly do and then then we could discuss at next meeting which options we really want to include that would probably involve researching the query language a bit as well to see what that can it would be nice to i do not know meet up and you can sort of show us a bit but you know already so we do not sort of have to do all the work again of just like figuring out stuff 0 just like the basics no already what just like accessing the corpus and stuff 0 just like all the answering the code and just sort of pal just see the basics of what you have done like just get a quick look over and just can take us for a tutorial yeah you know the class paths all that sort of thing just say okay well here is you know everything is basically yeah you can do that yeah yeah just jump right in the code next week sometimes yeah in the morning yeah well this time i am dictating if i am not there you can not do anything the main thing is you know yeah something like that could happen any time because yeah like my schedule is like a class break class break class yeah it is not going to take an hour yeah exactly yeah yeah that is what i am thinking so something like that and then if i have a class i can run off yeah pick a time yeah yeah yeah let me know whenever monday might be good yeah what monday what do you next yeah just anytime not at noon or 2 or 4 no in between those yeah like one or 3 or 30 clock actually yeah possibly 3 it was what times the nlg 4 is it it is 4 yeah unless you want to do it after yeah that is an option too yeah 3 is good though but we have whatever what was you for or 330 it does not matter for me necessarily 330 in the computer room in here and then we can just go straight can you get in front door 0 you have not got a key do can none of you get in there yeah well we can get in the front door yeah well we can get in the front door there is computer rooms in here the msc computer i have not found that yet it is in here well if you find me i will show you where i will let us all in there we can look out we can look now afterwards you do need to have a key for it that is the thing it is going to lock the door but yeah somebody else i was asking steve about that whether we can get in there whether he is going to get us access into it into what the computer room okay it is only got it is crap it is only got about 4 or 5 computers in but it would do quite good for our job because it can also that is not very of not many people in it right is there a printer in there too yeah there is a printer in there and there is a photocopier with the code on it yeah yeah it is cool well and we should photograph your assignment if we want to i got on my computer yeah so what time do we say i just think it is better to do it afterwards than we have all the time yeah that is true yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah as long as denlg does not go late hopefully it is not that man so it will not matter actually it is not even confirmed yet what she does not even know what she is talking about yet maybe it does not happen at all it is reading week next week it should be is it really well it is supposed to be next week it is week 6 next week i do not think we have a reading week though i do not think we have a reading week we have one class at least when we like speech perception we do not have any lectures but i think we are having like all other classes yeah i do not think there is not my point in i do not think there was an official one last semester i think it was just a bank holiday was not it something like that some classes did and some classes did not yeah it was a bizarre really they did not really know what was going to be i think the undergraduates had were off totally he was up to the professor whether they did it or not well i do not feel like to yeah make them work i think the i will probably have one to make up for missing classes what yeah we will probably have it yeah it has been last week okay let us meet monday yeah i guess that is it was there anything else do anyone of you want to take care of this or should i take care of it 0 wait trust you i do not know if there was something i think he basically said the same things as in the comments if i could read it can you read that which one on the top one do you really want multiple windows from a single app most single app but most will probably want to go with defaults yeah that was what you said yeah i think it comments at the basis as what you said yeah exactly and just the other comment about whether you want to do both speaker characterization and topic significantation so that is part yeah yeah and now we have 7% of the course already that is good so if you need to take the ok box right if you are ok with having i am signing it is signing off in it yeah should we turn these off in or what we are done now is she still here yes you are