so hello good afternoon sorry i am a little late no problem got stuck in the traffic okay that is possible on this time of day starts at 30 clock let me see yeah our 4th and last meeting there he is yes okay this our last meeting in this meeting we will discuss our final design and we will do some evaluation about the not only the product but also the project and then we are going to close the project today as well so after this you will be free to go and spend all your money and this design detailed design meeting we will discuss the look and feel of the design the usability interface design and we will do the product evaluation in order to do that we have this agenda we will have the prototype presentation 1st then we will set up some evaluation cri criteria then we will look at the finance we will have to see if everything we want to do is also possible within our budget because everything costs money and the more functions you want to have the more money it will cost so we have to see if it fits within the €125 per remote but we will see that later then we will do the project evaluation and the closing after that we have got 40 minutes so we will be finished at half past 3 but 1st we will do the this is prototype presentation so if some yeah if somebody wants step forward okay well this is what me and richard came up with the default spot for the on off button the mute button just below that then there is the volume and channel selectors simple +minus button we thought of a help button if you hold it and you press another button the help goes to the l c d screen then there is the 0 to one to 0 buttons a button for teletext a button for the subtitles and the company logo so it is rather simple prototype and we will have to see from testing how the users take it okay is this the moment where we ask or can ask questions about the functionality so sure just pop in at any time yeah yeah when you are in teletext there usually are buttons where you just you just press it and you g go to the next teletext page that is just the normal as th as the normal remote controls so you put it you came in page 100 now you can use the normal one to 0 buttons and you but you can also use the button th for changing the the channel s so the shifting button okay for yeah shif shifting up in on t on t teletext and shifting down so okay yeah okay but i thought in a few meetings earlier we tried to keep it simple 0 yeah just a few buttons and large buttons but i think these are altogether quite a quite a few buttons so i am wondering if we if we neely really need all of those buttons i think if you look at most controls they have got more buttons than this that is right and well the on off button it is it is a necessity yeah you can not drop that one yeah yeah the volume and channel buttons you need you obviously need those those yeah the mute button could be replaced by pressing the volume down button twice so we could cancel that one i think the help button really is necessary because there is no other way to know when someone wants to know what a button does yeah yeah or you can build in when you press one button yeah long time yeah if you put but m yeah we disk discuss that already but we think old people do not know that option so they just put in put press the button and yeah okay well you can not leave out the number buttons i guess and yeah and teletext and subtitles are yeah necessary yeah 0 yeah okay so it is rather basic already yeah think so that is what i pointed out earlier if you just make a control for just the t v there is just not much to gain here yeah yep okay so we had somebody about th interfa something about the design of the buttons there yeah they are it is rather hard to draw on the white board yeah just n normal plain buttons yeah it but they are supposed to be equal sized round with a with a little logo on it for the for the volume the the triangle and stuff yeah yeah yeah just to recognize it so kay just for recognition yeah and now we do not need leds or no y s some remote controls do it also but because we use the little display we do not have to use it no so yeah okay so and for the materials we have just chosen for rubber buttons nay with a a different color than the case yep so they jump out okay and that is about it that is nice then because we only have 30 minutes left i will move on to the finance part which is pretty exciting to see if it is all possible what we want to do and i can tell you that we are going to have a pretty hard time producing this for €125 if we see i do not know if i have filled in correctly so just correct me if you see something wrong i counted 2 batteries but maybe we can also use one i do not know if it is possible since it rechargeable it is rechargeable that is right yeah we can u just okay that is €2 off kay we need the advanced chip so there is not much to yep to save there here we have the single curves we can see that the difference between uncurved and the single curved is one i do not know but i think the single curved is good for design and also for the display to have a prominent place on the remote control yeah yes i think we have to keep that yeah then we have the case material supplements it is plastic it is the cheapest one we need so that is not much to save either but then the biggest costs are the buttons so maybe we really should try to discard some buttons to keep our costs low okay yeah because you have to we will have to get the €125 at the end so if we let us fir 1st count the buttons we have now because i 16 16 i believe so nah that will be even more then €18 so 17 17 with the help button okay including the help yep damn yeah yeah 17 i think we can discard the help and the mute button by pressing down volume long or pressing down a a number yep long that saves us one already cause then we have got 15 i think yeah would not yeah 15 buttons no that would not be an option and this is d i assume you would count the volume and channel thingies for 2 buttons each right no those are one i think yeah well think actually there are 2 buttons are not they where did it is just one button but yeah there were 2 for one big button but they are more expensive than the small ones yeah yeah but th it is not stated in this files so it is just a so maybe we can we can even make one button with the volume and the channel in one by pressing well i was thinking maybe you could just integrate 3 of those numbers to one button that is possibility as well that would cut the cost so and it is good for the design as well so you can make let us see if you make this looks a bit like a cross plus min but i do not do not know if if it is cheaper s yeah channel so we have still got 4 buttons but just so yeah w yeah th i think they count the materials you got not not a butt button itself but on the yeah on the chip there yeah on the chip you have got still 44 buttons yeah yeah that is right that is right so yeah but i think because we have the advanced chip we can just count this as one button yeah but but no but i think but i think this really is 4 buttons anyhow yes yeah maybe it is but then it seems to me that it is impossible to get the €125 also the l c display i think it is i think it is too expensive for the display we use yes that is that is a big cost i think they try t if we leave out the display we can also save money on the chip that is right but what is the big advantage of our remote then only the docking station i guess yeah which is not the the docking station is not even in this c s schematic no so it is not even taken into the price that is extra that is extra that is right maybe we should to a different supplier that is an option poland something yeah polish supplier do not you think we can if we can count this as v as one button and integrate th these buttons in 3 then we save a lot of money as well we we could save money on it but would it make the remote more usable for elderly people yeah that is what i am wondering my mother can not even send send an s m s message so yeah that is a point are we going to buy a a remote control when you can use it so yeah we m we must stay below the below 1250 or can not go yep yeah no well since the market research indicated that older people spend their money easier more easy maybe it is feasible to just put the price of the remote up a little especially since we have those nice features nay yeah but we have to stick to the €125 we do not have any more budget to develop it the margin will get too small is it impossible to yeah yeah but it is possible to make one for 1250 so i do not think so it is if you leave out the l c display it would be a be a pretty rigid one s and if you use less buttons yeah say or you can take the single chip 10 but you can not use there it is yeah but we want to make a so fancy and a good yeah but then w good looking wi with n 0 with yeah attractive 0 options so you can stay below 1250 so i think it is difficult as well but or b basically becoming a choice between like either a good remote and a higher production cost or just any other remote control no remote or we can leave out the 10 buttons and take one scroll wheel for the program numbers scroll wheel is one that is then w because then we save 10 buttons no it then we have 5 and one yeah and and see if we have this one and we have got the advanced w we are getting close we are getting closer yeah but how does scroll wheel work here then you will or maybe you can scroll if you scroll you will see the numbers on the l c d display until you have got the right number then you push it yeah that would bring up the price of the scroll wheel also alright integrated scroll wheel push button it has got to scroll and push okay but then you you can push some other button as well but yeah you could just not scroll for a half a 2nd yeah so you will not need a button that is right so if you scroll to a number and then you wait a half 2nd then it g turns to that channel i think that would be like the end of our usability but it would definitely crop cost a lot d yeah yeah but and we need the battery and the regular chip is not possible it has to be advanced if you want to use an l c d screen you you need an advanced chip yes it has to be advanced yeah okay and we can save a euro by a flat design that is an option we can then we are almost there yep ja ja yeah if you v could just leave out one more button yeah so if we yeah or we have to skip the subtitle button yeah yeah but i think that is that is a big advantage if we are so yeah yeah it is a big advantage but it is but can we use can not we integrate the teletext and the subtitles in one button i think so yeah yeah well think it is pretty much the teletext subtitles are right now you just push the teletext button go to page 888 and teletext disappears if you push it 3 times yeah yeah yeah but the subtitles stay there but if you push the teletext button twice i think that is the case on most what if you have to scroll to page 88 it is 888 one m one b a few buttons ah that is not really that well that could be just like the scroll to 8 click scroll to 8 click scroll to 8 click yeah okay but then again that would be d j just pretty much not an option for older people who do not even know what a scroll wheel is no yeah holding a no remote with which they expect to have like 10 buttons for the numbers one to 0 with only 5 buttons on it and a scroll wheel i think if you make a good advertisement on television and in the in the guide you can explain to the people how to use the scroll wheel if you just make it real simple because it saves it saves a lot of money and we can keep our l c d screen which can provide extra information how to use the scroll wheel how to use the other bu buttons as subtitles true true and it is good for the innovative design as well if you would erase these eraser and we put looks a bit odd maybe that is a pretty big scroll wheel that is something like that then yeah we have got the scroll wheel 12345 buttons if we erase this one and these are 2 buttons then we could make 2 buttons out of that and just if you press the volume button you can control the volume with the scroll wheel yeah so that would save 2 buttons if you do the same for the channel yeah that is really a good good idea i think and it will make the use of the scroll wheel more obvious indeed more obvious so we make one for the volume one for the channel plus scroll so if we that is right so we have got 123 yeah we can leave the teletext in if we want yeah yeah that is m that is better so so this is 5 buttons if we leave out all those buttons perhaps you can go with the flat flat case and make it smaller overall so if you put the the volume and channel buttons on the same height as the on off button the screen right behi under that than the scroll button y yeah yeah yeah and then you can you get a a much smaller remote yeah that is right and it so we can sh decrease this one to 4 buttons yeah right now we have 5 but you can make a f quite a big remote remote control for just the same price as a small one yeah just you only have to pay for the double curved or single curved that is no problem it it is a bit yeah yeah it is it is more the molds in which they are being made i think single curved is really easy to just fill in and cases come right out of the machine and single curved you have to have a different different machine than a flat one i think this is a really easy one what does everybody think about a flat or a single curved design freek what do you think well i still think we should go for the single curve design yeah but then again richard is argument was very good all these changes are not really okay with me yeah yeah yeah yep but since we have to cut costs we just have to yeah yeah yeah i am ag i would rather just go to the board and ask for more money get us to spend $18 a a remote yeah yeah i am agreeing with the usability or do some market research and see what the options are yeah yeah but th i think we can then keep the single curved one just to express our l c d screen a bit more yep yeah so people will use it more and especially for the help functions it will be good if we have scroll bar scroll button yeah it will be necessary to have good help function as well so this is scroll i think it was better to have this price list a bit earlier before we went on to the to the whole design yes definitely the th but i am glad we could make a bit yeah it is pretty different if you saw the last one than this one it is pretty different but this is not really like for the group we were making our remote no this will really require a lot of marketing yeah it will to get this to sell yeah but cause if older people like familiar forms and familiar stuff this is not familiar for them no but i think so we are going to have to do a lotta convincing them i think the most but they know the scroll buttons from old radios they cal also buttons like that for changing channels yeah that is right so maybe it is we can let l we can stick it out a bit like a old old buttons yeah yeah maybe that is recognizable for them as well yeah yeah that is a good one so i am afraid we have to move on and it is it is b less frightening i think if they see this design they think 0 there are only 5 buttons and but we will see yeah that is true might might be confusing too yeah that is definitely right they would be like what only 5 buttons yeah but very special so i would buy it yeah but you are not 60 that is right i would buy it if i was 6 no i do not know what it costs under €125 no yes they are no no but we can go on with the project evaluation let us see i can sit down i think we still have 15 minutes left so we are nice on schedule yeah the project process so i like set up all these criteria and evaluation of the evaluation criteria that is right that was the the point i forgot thingy i should there we are evaluation criteria thank you go ahead we have got 5 minutes i think for those criteria 5 more minutes no we have got 15 minutes but okay yes what kay so i did some literature study study and analysis of the requirements we set up earlier yeah translated it into criteria which would be these is the remote fancy the shape look and feel innovative what new functions are there easy to use learnability is a very important factor here is it functional are there not too many functions among the functions and are the those functions that are there are they useful and the cost the target group is the remote really for the group we are making it for and recognability if our company is if it is easily recognizable that our company made it and so we are supposed to evaluate it right now okay let us see 0 i have to say this was a little hard because the minutes of our last meeting were not here yeah that is because my pen failed to upload his data okay yeah interesting i tried to but it is it is giving errors by downloading the software so kay is the design fancy on a scale of one to 7 i think it is fancy 6 yeah 6 we all go for 6 yeah 6 good is the design innovative very i think so with our l c d screen docking station scroll buttons sh subtitles buttons yeah yeah 7 7 yeah yeah so we have got ¢20 for our docking station huh should be do able yeah that is right is the design easy to use not really that is a bit dodgy well would be for us but for old people i i i would say 4 4 or 5 w yeah 4 or 5 between yes 4 between 4 or 5 i would go for 4 too yeah yeah is it functional is the design functional do we have all functions that we want to include yes n yeah i think we do do we have too many functions no no no i do not think so it is pretty slim think it is 7 7 0 and do we take care of the biggest frustrations of the remote control like it getting lost and m r s i influences we have not thought of that one it was think we do i had them worked out they are ugly not very functional and getting lost are the production costs within the preset limits yeah well they are now yeah does the design fit the group of focus i think that is a 3 th yeah yeah no i think with our new radio button i think it is i think it does not yeah i think it is better we have to test it s but i do not know i still i think it is too m too fancy i think i think it too too flashy i think a radio button is not exactly what older people expect to have a remote control yeah true yeah i would give it a 4 i am not sure i think i would go for 2 i go for 3 so then we have to do the 3 it is the kay is the company company recognizable yes it is yeah yeah well we have the logo there yeah so and they want to put fashion in their products in the slogan of the company and we have the removable front cases yeah so i think it is very recognizable yeah yep so that will be this i was also supposed to calculate the score but thought we would have another private thingy after this we have got a calculate it twendag sieven an twendag is this like after this are we done or n we have going to we are going to evaluate it we are going to go to our other room again well anyhow these are 7 factors times 7 is 40 something 2 no 9 49 -one -3 -4 -4 so that would be -8 41 out of 49 41 that is around 80% okay what is it guess i will just type that in on the bottom here that is 84% i think that is a pretty nice score yeah yeah kay so that will be the evaluation okay thank you so that brings us to the project evaluation yep thank you project process did we move through the right phases you think along the process yes yeah but it think we should have a should have had the finance thingy a lot earlier yeah that is right in the design phase so lack of information about prices yeah yeah yeah that is true definitely okay okay satisfaction was there room for creativity no no not too much no it is because of the finance sheet yeah yeah yeah there w there was enough room but the finance yeah true but the room was yeah yeah and i would have liked to go for the younger users also and just to be able to access internet and get something of your own restrictions internet access kay leadership was it clear what everybody had to do according to their roles and functions yes yeah yeah yeah teamwork did it work out so working together also you 2 of you with the last phase yes was okay yeah nice the tasks are very structured so you can just do step by step and it is very easy tasks okay were the means sufficient for the tasks we had to do or were they too much well the smart board the d d drawing is just a pain in the ass but smart board the digital the digital pen is very nice yeah if it wants to download its data yeah but yes yeah yeah failed download smart board was irritating so you rather wanted to have a flip over or something else a flip over or a more precise yeah a flipper is easier so yeah yeah faster as well i think digit yes yeah flip over but if you want to share of when you make a picture like this on the presentation it is easier to share it with other people so you can sh save it and put it on the internet yeah or in shared f folder or sh shared directory yeah i tried to open the file on my laptop but so so yeah no no did not work not possible you need a smart board application i think yeah t can can you export it like a yeah but i think you can yeah should be possible no yeah you can export it as image must yeah must be should have done that then so the sharing of the information was was okay pen is here yes network yeah pen is here on the table yeah so you can yeah it is possible it is possible yeah okay okay that is nice have we found new ideas for having this kind of meetings or yeah maybe when we n just give the numbers of of 01 of out of s sev it is easier to to do the th things that are like that on a computer yeah yeah so just l like at u university so yeah so so everybody puts his own score and then it mediates the score and you can get one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that is better so that is how do we call evaluation criteria okay any more ideas or questions about the project or about the product because i think then that we get to our last sheet are the costs within the budget yeah yeah they are considering we are not going to make a docking station do we docking station that is a good point but maybe because of the docking station the price of the remote can also be a little bit higher yeah and i think you can compensate that as well perhaps so i think that should not be the biggest problem because it is very cheap to make as well yeah do we think we going to get the 12500000 or what was it 50 grand 1515000000 i think we will if we going to export this product it is innovative yeah especially in america people are pretty decadent yeah sometimes yeah still i think i mean if we are n going to make a scroll button anyway yeah it would be more for the younger people than for the older people you can do more yeah ah so maybe we should just re focus just put it on the market for everybody you can you can change markets where by changing the front covers or specifically for younger people ah ah that is one thing you can change it with that is true so you can also try to reach the younger people by putting fancy covers on on the market just as a test see how it works that is i think a good advantage yeah i think then it would be way more popular with younger people than it is than would be with older people yeah even if it were their covers then i think we can have our little celebration right now but party party that is it yeah i think we still have to fit in one more questionnaire where is the champagne kay i think i do not know i did not get a message from the from ending of the 0 i think i have one now i believe y 0 you did 5 more minutes 0 that is nice okay then we still have some questions if somebody has some questions they can ask them now or we can put these in the project folder as well maybe that is yeah export as picture i think yeah yeah this is another network i guess does somebody see the project folder i do not my documents maybe they will save it so yeah i will just put it in my documents and that is okay yeah it probably will okay i think i am going to make our final presentation now 0 yeah you are supposed to make a final and then i will be back in about 10 minutes to show you the final presentation okay okay summary of the project are we supposed to go into our own rooms again maybe we have to fill another questionnaire yeah questionnaire so i think you all get a questionnaire in in your room yeah yeah yeah and then i will meet you in i think about 10 minutes or something okay okay okay thank you hopefully my pen will download its software yeah 0 or data that would be nice
hello good afternoon sorry i am a little late no problem got stuck in the traffic okay it is possible in this time of day it starts at 30 clock yeah let me see our 4th and last meeting there he is yes okay this is our last meeting in this meeting we will discuss our final design and we will do some evaluation about the not only the product but also the project and then we are going to close the project today as well so after that you will be free to go and spend all your money and this design detailed design meeting we will discuss the look and feel of the design the usability interface design and we will do the product evaluation in order to do that we have this agenda we will have the prototype presentation 1st then we will set up some evaluation criteria then we will look at the finance we will have to see if everything we want to do is also possible within our budget because everything costs money and the more functions you want to have the more money it will cost so we have to see if it fits within the 12 and a half euro per remote we will see that later then we will do the project evaluation and the closing after that we have got 40 minutes so we will be finished at half past 3 but 1st we will do the this prototype presentation so if somebody wants forward well this is what me and richard came up with the default spot for the on off button the mute button just below that then there is the volume and channel selectors simple +minus button we thought of a help button of a help button if you hold it and you press another button the help goes to the lcd screen then there is the 0 to one to 0 buttons a button for teletext a button for the subtitles and the company logo so it is rather simple prototype and we will have to see from testing how the users take it okay is this a moment where we ask where i can ask questions about the functionality sure just pop in at any time when you are in teletext there are usually your buttons where you just press it and you go to the next teletext page it is just the normal remote controls so you push it you came in page 100 you can use the normal one to 0 buttons but you can also use the button for changing the channel so the shifting button okay for shifting up in teletext and shifting down okay yeah but i thought in a few meetings earlier we tried to keep it simple just a few buttons and large buttons but i think these are all together quite a few buttons so i am wondering if we really really need all of those buttons i think if you look at most controls they have got more buttons than this that is right and well the on off button is a necessity you can not drop that one the volume and channel buttons you obviously need those the mute button could be replaced by pressing the volume down button twice so we could cancel that one i think the help button really is necessary because there is no other way to know when someone wants to know what a button does or you can build in when you press one button a long time yeah yeah we just discussed it already but we think all people do not know that option so they just put in the better yeah okay well you can not leave out the number buttons i guess yeah and it takes some subtitles right yeah that is yeah so it is rather basic already yeah i think so that is what i pointed out earlier if you just make a control for just a tv there is just not much to gain here yeah okay okay so you had somebody about something about the design of the buttons there yeah it is normal rather hard to draw on the whiteboard but they are supposed to be equal sized round with a little logo on it for the volume the triangle and stuff just for recognition yeah and we do not need a led or no some remote controls do it as so but because we use the little display we do not have to use it yeah so for the materials we have just chosen for rubber buttons we have a different color than the case so they jump out okay that is about it that is nice because we only have 30 minutes left i will move on to the finance part which is pretty exciting to see if you have 30 minutes left to see if it is all possible what we want to do and i can tell you that we are going to have a pretty hard time producing this for $125 if we see i do not know if i filled in correctly so just correct me if you see something wrong i counted 2 batteries but maybe we can also use one i do not know if it is possible it is just rechargeable it is rechargeable that is right okay that is €2 off we need the advanced chip so there is not much to save there here we have the single curve we can see that the difference between uncurved and the single curve is one i do not know but i think the single curve is one no but i think the single curve is good for the design and also for the display to have a prominent place on the remote control i think we have to keep that then we have the case material supplements it is plastic it is the cheapest one we need so that is not much to save either but then the biggest costs are the buttons so maybe we really should try to discard some buttons to keep our cost low because we will have to get the €125 at the end so if we let us 1st count the buttons we have now because i 16 now that will be even more than €18 so 17 the help button okay including the help yeah that is 17 i think we can discard the help and the mute button by pressing down volume long or pressing down a number yeah long that saves us one already then we have got 15 i think yeah would not hear 15 buttons and this is i assume you count the volume and channel things for 2 buttons each right now those are one i think i think actually there are 2 buttons it is just one better bit 21 big button but they are more expensive than the small ones i yeah but it is not stated in this it is just a so maybe we can even make one button with the volume and the channel in one by pressing well i am thinking maybe you could just integrate 3 of those numbers to one button that is the possibility as well that would cut the cost so and it is good for the design as well so you can make let us see if you make this looks a bit like a cross it looks a bit like a cross but i do not know if it is easier so yeah you still got 4 buttons but just so yeah i think they count the materials not a better but on the chip there yeah on the chip you got still for a better that is right but i think because we have the advanced chip we can just count this as one button this is one button but no but i think i think this really is for buttons anyhow yes yeah maybe it is but then it seems to me that it is impossible to get the €125 also the lc display that is a big cost i think it is too expensive for the display we use i think they try if we leave out the display display we can also save money on the chip that is right but what is the big advantage of our remote then only the docking station i guess yeah which is not the docking station is not even in this schematic no it is not even taken into the price that is extra that is right maybe we should move to a different supplier that is an option poland something polish player do not you think we can if we can count this as one button and integrate these buttons in 3 then we save a lot of money as well we could save money on it but would it make the remote more usable for elderly people no yeah that is what i am wondering my mother can not even send send an sms message so yeah that is a point we can not buy a remote control when you can use it so yeah we must stay below the 1250 or can not go yeah can not go out no well since the market research indicated that other people spend their money easier more easy maybe it is feasible to just put the price of the remote up a little especially since we have those nice features yeah but we have to stick to the 12 and a half euros we do not have any more budget to the margin the margin will get too small yeah yeah it is possible to make one for a $1250 i do not think that is if you leave out the lcd display and if you use less buttons say you can take a single chip there it is yeah we want to make a but then so fancy and good yeah good looking with attractive option so you can stay below 12 50 so i think it is difficult as well basically becoming a choice between like either a good remote and higher production costs or just no remote control or we can leave out the 10 buttons and take one scroll wheel for the program numbers because then we save 10 buttons then we have 5 and one and see if we have this one and we have got the advanced we are getting closer we are getting close but how would the scroll we will work here then you will or maybe you can if you scroll you will see the numbers on the lcd display until you have got the right number then you push it they would bring up the price of the scroll wheel also 0 it is a scroll and push okay but then you can push some other button as well you could just not scroll for half a 2nd yeah that is right so if you scroll to a number and then you wait a half 2nd then it turns to that channel i think that would be like the end of her usability yeah but it would definitely drop the cost drop cost a lot but and we need the battery and the regular chip is not possible has to be advanced if you want to use an lcd screen you you need an advanced chip yes yeah okay and we can save a euro by a flat design that is an option we can yeah then we are almost there yeah if you could just leave out one more button yeah so if we yeah or we have to skip the subtitle button yeah but yeah but i think that is that is a big advantage yeah it is a big advantage but can we use can we integrate the teletext and the subtitles in one button i think so yeah yeah if you push it pretty much 3 times teletext subtitles are right now you just push the teletext button go to page 888 yeah and teletext disappears but the subtitles stay there but if you push the tedx button twice what if you have to scroll to page 88 888 that is not really that could be just like the scroll to 8 click scroll to 8 click scroll to 8 click yeah okay but then again there would be just pretty much an optional option pretty much an optional option for other people who do not even know what a scroll wheel is no holding a remote which they expect to have like 10 buttons for the numbers one to 0 with only 5 buttons on it and a scroll wheel i think if you make a good advertisement on television and in the in the guide you can explain to the people how to use the scroll wheel if you just make it real simple because it saves a lot of money and we can keep our lcd screen which can provide extra information how to use the scroll wheel how to use the other buttons as subtitles and it is good for the innovative design as well well if you would erase these eraser the razor hey we put a look is a bit odd maybe that is a pretty big skull yo wheel something like that something like that then yeah we have got the scroll wheel 12345 buttons if we erase this one and these are 2 buttons then we could wake 2 buttons out of that of that and just if you press the volume button you can control the volume with the scroll wheel so that would save 2 buttons if you do the same for the channel that is really a good good idea i think and that will make the use of the scroll wheel more obvious more obvious indeed so we make one for the volume one for the channel plus scroll so if we that is right so we have got 123 yeah we can leave the teletext in if we want yeah that is better so this is 5 if we leave out all those buttons perhaps you can go with the flat flat case and make it smaller overall so if you put the volume and channel buttons on the same height as the on off button the screen right under that then the scroll button you get a much smaller remote that is right and it so we can decrease this one to 4 buttons right now we have 5 you can you can make quite a big remelt control for just the same price as a small one yeah that is no problem you have to pay for the double curved or single curved yeah it is a bit yeah it is more the moles in which they are being made i think single curves is really easy to just fill in and cases come right out of the machine and single curves you have to have a different machine than a flat one i think this is a really easy one what does everybody think about a flat or a single curve design frege what do you think well i still think we should go for the single curve design then again i mean richard is argument was very good all these changes are not really okay with me but since we have to cut calls we have to cut costs you have to yeah i would just go to the board and ask for more money get us to spend $18 a remote yeah i am agreeing with the usability and see what the options are yeah but i think we can then keep the single curved one just to express our lcd screen a bit more so people will use it more and especially for more and especially for the help functions it will be good if we have scroll bar scroll button will be necessary to have a good help function as well so this is scroll scroll i think it was better to have this price just a bit earlier before we went on to the whole design but i am glad we could make a bit it is pretty different this is not really like for the group we were making a remote this will really require a lot of marketing to get this to sell yeah because if older people like familiar forms and familiar stuff this is not familiar for them no but i think so we are going to have to do a lot of convincing them i think the most but they know the scroll buttons from old radios they also buttons like that for changing so we can let it is we can stick it out a bit like old old buttons yeah maybe that is recognizable for them as well yeah it is a good one so i am afraid we have to move on and it is it is less frightening i think if they see this design and think 0 there are only 5 buttons and but we will see it might be confused too yeah that is definitely right only 5 buttons yeah that is very special so i would buy yeah but you are not 60 that is right i would buy it if i was 60 no i do not know are the cost under 12 and a half euros no yes they are no no but we can go on with the project evaluation let us see i can sit down i think we still have 15 minutes left so nice on schedule the project process so i would like set up all these criteria evaluation that is right that was the thingy the point i forgot should there we are evaluation criteria thank you go ahead we have got 5 minutes i think for this criteria 5 more minutes no we have got 15 minutes but okay okay okay yes yes okay okay so i did some literature study analysis of the requirements we set up earlier translated it into criteria which would be these is a remote fancy a shape look and feel innovative what new functions are there easy to use learnability is a very important factor here is it functional are there not too many functions amount of functions and those functions that are there are they useful and the cost the target group is the remote really for the group we are making it for and great cognitive ability if our company is if it is easily recognizable there are company made it so we are supposed to evaluate it right now okay let us see 0 i have to say this was a little hard because the minutes of our last meeting were not here yeah that is because my pen failed to upload his data okay i try to but it is giving errors by downloading the software okay is the design fancy on a scale of one to 7 i think it is fancy 6 yeah he will go for 6 good is the design innovative very so with our lcd station scroll buttons yeah 7 7 yeah so we have got ¢20 for our docking station sense for our docking station should be dual is the design easy to use that is a bit douchy well would be for us but for all the people i would say 4 4 or 5 4 or 5 between 4 i would go for 4 too yeah is it functional is the design functional do we have all functions that we want to include yes i think we do do we have too many functions no i do not think so it is pretty slim i think it is 7 7 0 and do we take care of the biggest frustrations of the remote control like it getting lost and i have not thought of that one it was i think we do do i had them worked out they are ugly not very functional and getting lost are the production costs within the preset limits well they are now yeah does the design fit the group of focus i think that is a free yeah i think with a new radio button i think it is better i do not know i still i think it is too fancy too flashy i think the radio button is not exactly what older people expect of a remote control yeah true i would give it a 4 i am not sure i think i would go for 2 i go for 3 then we have to do the 3 is the company recognizable yes it is we have the logo there so and they want to put fashion in their products in the slogan of the company and we have the removable front cases so i think it is very recognizable yeah so that would be this i was also supposed to calculate the score but thought we would have another private we have got to calculate we have got to be is this like after this are we done or we have got to evaluate it well anyhow these are 7 factors times 7 is 40 something 2 no 9 99 -one -3 -4 it would be -8 41 out of 49 that is i run 80% i guess i will just type that in the bottom here that is 84% i think that is a pretty nice score okay so that will be the evaluation okay thank you so that brings us to the project evaluation yeah thank you project process did we move through the right phases you think you think along the process yes yeah i think we should have a should have the finance thing you a lot earlier yeah that is right in the design phase so lack of information about prices yeah that is true okay okay okay satisfaction was there room for creativity no not too much no it is because of the finance sheet yeah there was enough room but the finance the room was yeah and i would have liked to go for the younger users also and just to be able to access internet and get something of your own your own restrictions internet access okay leadership was it clear what everybody had to do according to their roles and functions yes teamwork did it work out working together also you 2 of you with the yes it was okay last days nice the tasks are very structured so you can just do step by step and it is very easy such your tasks okay were the means sufficient for the tasks we had to do or were they too much well the smart board the drawing is just a pain in the ass but the digital pen is very nice if it wants to download this data smartboard was irritating so you rather want to have a flip over or something else a flip over or a more precise yeah faster as well i think flip over but if you want to share a when you make a a picture like this on the presentation it is easier to share it with other people so you can save it and put it on the internet or in shared folder or shared yeah i tried to open the file on my laptop but no it did not work no you need the smart board application i think but i think you can yeah it should be possible should be possible yeah you can export this image missed yeah must be should have done that so the sharing of the information was was okay yeah pen is here on the table yeah yeah yeah peggs here on the table yeah okay it is possible yeah okay okay okay it is nice have we found new ideas for having this kind of meeting so yeah maybe when we just give the numbers of out of 7 yeah it is easier to do things like that on the computer yeah so just like university yeah so everybody puts his own score and then it mediates the score and you can get one yeah that is better so it is how do we call information criteria okay any more ideas or questions about the project or about the product because i think that we get to our last sheet articles within the budget yeah they are considering we are not going to make a docking station docking station that is a good point but maybe because of the docket docking station the price of the remote can also be a little bit higher yeah perhaps and i think you can compensate that as well so i think that should not be the biggest problem because it is very cheap to make as well do we think we are going to get the $12500000 what was it 15000000 i think we will if we are going to export this product it is in over too especially in america people are pretty thick a den sometimes yeah i still think i mean if we are going to make a scroll button anyway you can do more for the younger people and for the older people yeah so maybe we should just refocus just put it on the market for everybody you can specifically for you can change markets by changing the front cover that is one thing you can change it with so you can also try to reach the younger people by putting fancy covers on the market just as a test see how it works that is i think a good advantage yeah i think then it would be way more popular with younger people than it is than would be with older people yeah even if it were their covers then i think we can have our little celebration right now that is it party i think we still have to fill in one more questionnaire i think i do not know i did not get a message from the ending of the 0 i think i have one now 5 more minutes that is nice then we still have some questions some questions if somebody has some questions they can ask them now we can put these in the project folder as well yes export is a picture i think export is picture i think yeah yeah this is another network i guess does somebody see the project folder i do not  my documents maybe they will save it so yeah i will just put it in my documents and that is okay okay i think i am going to make our final presentation now 0 yeah you are supposed to make it and then i will be back in about 10 minutes to show you the final presentation okay summary of the project are we supposed to go into our rooms again maybe you have to fill a questioner yeah i think you will get a questionnaire in your room yeah and then i will meet you in i think about 10 minutes okay so good okay thank you hopefully my pen will download is software yeah or data do not be nice i am not