okay is everybody ready yeah yeah i would to just put on my microphone here and i will be right with you okay i take it you all have received instructions as to what you were supposed to do and yes i think the marketing manager probably should go 1st addressing the needs and desires okay you want me to start right now yeah okay well could you put my slides up cause i think it might be helpful if we looked at the slides at the same time okay you are participant 4 i am participant 4 i believe yes huh kay okay and now i can full screen open okay okay there we go okay well i think we have introduced ourselves so the functional requirements are is is part of my goal but why do not we pass right to the 2nd slide and then full screen cause that is where m my discussion starts right well since i am in charge of trying to figure out what we should put on this thing since i have to try to sell it i thought that the method i should follow would be gather suggestions from everybody and th the reason i just put that there like that is that in the init in the initial stage i think i should just be open to lots of suggestions you know you can say anything you want no matter how silly it sounds you know it should run your car it should heat up your motor if should turn on your c d whatever you want it to do and then as we go on what we will have to do is accept and eliminate these suggestions according to design and budget feasibility kay so i will be coming to you frequently as the industrial expert to tell me how hard it is going to be to add a feature or how expensive it is going to be or if your time yeah yeah yeah if it takes 5 years to develop this it is just something we can not do so in the beginning just have a big puddle of things that we anybody can th throw anything in and then just weed things out that can not be done for one reason or another yeah and then the things that seem the most attractive that to to a customer we will try to then prioritize those yeah so that was what i meant there and as i said on the slide there consulting the industrial engineer about that and the other thing is timing is really going to be as important as money because if we are going to sell this thing i think the best time to sell it is as a christmas present €25 makes a nice little present and we want it to be an impulse purchase we want somebody to see it and think it is gee i just got to have that and take out their wallet and buy it so it has got to be really attractive and it but it has got to go to market by september cause anything that you do not already have out there in september showing it around is not going to sell for christmas yeah and then i will be coming to you as the user interface person to try to tell me from your point of view what are the most friendly features that we could put on it and try to prior help me with that prioritizing of of the features and of the the look and the color and i will be coming back to you to help weed out those suggestions from that point of view okay okay so i will be coming to you for how much is it going to cost us and how long is it going to take you and i will be coming to you to tell me what is going to make somebody take out their wallet you know what features what what is what is going to really be what they call a sizzle cause we got to sell this sizzle s sellable yes a lot of times the thing that works the best from an engineering point of view is not the thing that somebody is really just going to take out their wallet and buy for christmas for for their child or for their husband or whatever yes okay can we go to the next slide please alright i i already did a little bit of research after our 1st meeting where we threw out some ideas and it looks to me that within the budget that we are looking at the the whole house idea really is not going to be possible so i would like your suggestions to come back to the other slide where i was saying we we could suggest anything i would like the suggestions to be really specific so that we will have a list of things we can cross off not something like you know whole house control what will be and then i found on the internet from from my research that some extended electronic entertainment control should be possible at the budget that we are looking at and at the price point we are looking at we should be able to make it work the t v the v c r the stereo set maybe something else cute like a coffee pot or one other appliance or maybe a lamp okay can can i at this point interject something i have to wind up yeah sure we have received instruction from higher up that certain things should not be considered okay the one thing for example something to eliminate maybe that is the teletext because that is sort of outdated with the internet okay and according to to higher management the it should only control the t v mostly because they feel that it is too comp complex a task to to to include other things and they are concerned with the time to market complicated yeah of course yeah of course yeah okay okay and the and the 3rd thing that they want to make sure that their that the corporate image is being maintained okay so that is something and that the corporate color and design are being used on the product so that it is easy that that that they can be easily identified as a product of of of the company and that there is no mistake that it could be somebody else who is bringing this out so i just wanted to interject this here so we are not getting too much off track here with with the things we want to look at these were instructions from higher up so we have to eliminate these things so it is only going to be t v okay so but the one thing maybe that could be eliminated is the teletext idea okay kay okay alright thanks for that alright now other things that i found out on in my research is that the complaints that people have about the remote controls that are out there now cause a lot of them take too much time to learn how to use and that was 34% but even more important the thing that we did address in our last meeting that frequently it is lost somewhere in the room so those are 2 things that we definitely do want to address we want to s make it as simple as possible we want to make it obvious and intuitive to use and then the things about finding it we talked about the a light emitting thing as well as maybe a beep and i think that those are things after my research that we definitely want to try to incorporate kay can we go to the next slide please okay so my personal preferences in this project are really have to concentrate on the sizzle that is the selling point the thing that is going to make it an impulse purchase because once there is no be back well in sales they always say you know be backs do not come back if somebody says 0 i will come back and get it next week you are dead they are never going to come back and buy it you have got to make it attractive enough so they buy it now now now w now is a big word in in my book for selling this thing and in order to make it really sellable we have got to shorten the learning curve make sure it is really intuitive and easy to use we have to have as few buttons as possible because more buttons is more confusion so that is why i am saying simplicity is good finding it is important obviously you can not use it if you can not find it so we have got to concentrate on the features that help you find it and i have already said this several times but i put it down in writing here it should be an attractive impulse purchase at €25 so it has to have enough value that when somebody looks at it they say €25 i am not going to take that has to be so great that they are going to say €25 is not much and then maybe a motto like we put fashion in electronics might be something we can use in our marketing campaign yeah okay that is about it for me right now okay and who would be next i guess that would be you yeah kay you want me to get your slide show up yeah yeah sure thank you and you are number 3 number 2 yeah number 2 yeah exactly okay can you make it full screen please okay yep no it is like a well you you have to press here the cup cup shape here yeah yeah huh the thir 3rd yeah exactly there so today i am going to talk about the working design of the remote controller okay can you go to the next sli slide please the metal is like in a remote controller you have a chip integrated circuit which is like a brain of the remote controller it takes the power from a battery say a battery it it can be a elec an electric supply like you have to like switch connec connect connect your remote controller to power supply from the you know electricity or something like that it should be a battery because remote controller should be like you you you should take it t to wherever you want and then th this integrated circuitry takes energy from the power source and whatever like if you press a button it is like a input for the remote controller and it takes the input and it it transforms into a infro infrared bits and it sends it into the device like a t v or a air conditioner something like that so a remote controller is specifically designed to a single device if you want to design it for multiple devices then you should make all the devices compatible with the frequency like th the remote controller it sends some bits some waves like with a particular frequency the device should know what the frequency is it should re re recognize the waves which are coming from the remote controller and it should take the action like if you press a button channel or something like that then the remote remote controller will send a send a se send a signal signal and the t v it should translate that into like change the channel or something like that receive change the volume control and so i think it is hard to design a remote controller for multiple devices multi purpose yeah well that is already been eliminated by management so we are off the hook yo and it is yeah but it is so yeah yep so user interface controls the chip and accordingly the messages like there should be a user user in interface like you know switch pad or something like that buttons should be there so you can control whatever you want you want to change the channel you want to control the volume you you want to mute mute the t v or you want to have a child lock or you want to do some operations there is a there should be some device to tell what to do to the in integrated circuit so that the integrated circuit can s send the signals and t v can perform the actions okay so can you go to the next slide please okay so i i just would like to add some extra features to the remote controller i think these are the very simple features and they do not take much much of the investment also it is like el the text or buttons which which are there on the remote controller they those we can make like fluorescent they will be like light emitting if it is dark so that you can find your remote controller if it is dark and ther there should be a beep if many buttons are pressed if suppose a child is playing with the remote controller and a and she she or he is pressing the buttons all at the time then there should be a beep saying that it is this this is not a a you know a a action there can be no action taking to that so and there should be a child lock like you should be able to lock your remote controller so that whatever buttons are pressed by a child they can not be like y you i you if you have ki kids and all then they will be pl playing with the remote controllers so can lock the remote controller if make it useable for more than one device it is a it is hard but i think it is possible but it yeah yeah yeah so it is it is okay yeah well yeah well that has been e that has been eliminated so that is that is unfortunately a moot point now well we already eliminated that eliminated yeah yeah and different shapes that we can do like we can have you know a all animals shapes or you know comfortable whi which can fit into your hands and so that now that is good from a marketing point of view the fun the fun shape yeah yeah yeah and colors also different colors and and that you you say that will not add too much to the budget yeah i colors to d the shape is no no no it will not i do not think it will be like you can have you know for if you want ther there to be more it just build a mold basically and you know yeah yeah it is it is just a s shape so it does not matter yes exactly as the budget we are looking at if you build one mold i do not think that is going to make a big difference whether it is going to be square or yeah do you think there is any chance of having ser in having basically the same machine with the same buttons but maybe several different shapes yeah that is also possible i yeah i i yeah 0 yes is that going to be a possible yes cause that might help with the marketing i think i think we will have to look at the budget on that but i think in principle that that would be that would be kind of fun yeah that will be yeah yeah because we had something sort of sexy for adults and we could have something sort of silly for children or a little animal shape or in a or a little elephant so they can remember where it is you know yeah silly for children yeah for children yeah exactly like an animal or like a doll or yeah that is what yeah yeah yeah exactly yes yeah and and the butto buttons also i think if you want to have more features in your remote controller then there should be more buttons if there are more buttons then it will be more complicated if you have less features then your remote controller will not be attractive so i think we need to make some buttons which are which are like f in in intended for 2 or 3 operations like if you press one button in one mode then it will change the channel if you press the other button in another mode it will change the color so if you want to have less buttons we can have that option but i think it will complicate the matter more i think so well i think i think that that is something that we will have to discuss with the user interface person because i think there is a lot of argument to be made for one button for one feature yep yeah yes because i think one of the things were complaining about in my what i found out in my research is when they complained about how hard it is to learn a new one the changing modes was something i mean you and i all f all 4 of us we work with computers all the time yeah it is like you know yeah yeah yeah yeah changing modes is nothing for us but people who okay yeah a little elderly a little arthritic hand you know n and and and it is a small button and and it they do not press it exactly you know something else happens n not their favorite channel comes up but something else and they are very frustrated you know yeah yeah yes something else and that is and that is the kind of thing people learn by feel and you do not feel the mode change yeah yeah you do not us yeah yeah usually yeah so maybe having buttons be various shapes might be a help too yeah shapes also different shapes you know like the a triangle is for the volume and a square is for changing channels so that people can develop a tactile sense of it yeah that will channels yeah yeah but we will get to that with you yeah yeah and also text should be very clear so that there there will not be any ambiguities and yes that is right yeah now that is a good point so yeah yes yeah and display clock i if you want more features then we can display a clock it i i do not think it will take any money extra money because anyway we have an integrated circuit i think we can just definitely fit that feature into the circuit so it is yeah that is that is a good that is a good one because the clock would be really friendly and and when is your favorite show coming on and yeah and we display a clock yeah yes yeah yes yeah and then you can just see your remote controller yeah yeah yeah so yeah you are sitting there already or maybe you have no other yes yeah and a lot of time there is not a clock on the screen and you have to go somewhere but you just want to look at the news for a minute yeah yeah that is that is good the clock is good yeah okay can you go to the next slide please components the main components we need for it ha like buttons and underneath that there should be switch and bulbs like we can have a bulb like whenever we are operating a remote controller or whenever the t v is on suppose then the remote controller should automatically have a b s light then it will be like if you switch on your t v through anoth another source not from through a remote remote controller and you you lost your remote controller maybe you can find with the light maybe we can have that whenever the t v is on remote controller will have a light and then infrared bulbs this is like when it is dark yeah and battery there should be a battery for power supply and a chip chip which is like a brain to the remote controller which does all the operations and wires connecting all chips which is lights everything so there should be wires yeah okay and of course there should be a case where we can keep all the things and you know different shapes or whatever it is there should be a case to put to give a shape to keep the remote yeah yeah case a case holder yeah holder a holder remote holder holder yeah can you move onto the next slide next sli slide please i have referred the site the homepage of the our website from where i have i got s few points that is it that is it from me now okay so it we should visit this site and have a look at what is up there or well you do not have to it is not like that i have referred the page to get new ideas or like what can be the working design to how it works and all and so and so okay okay so it might be helpful if we had a look at that yeah if you want okay thank you yeah it is okay could you go back to that slide where she had that s slide up betsy it is actually there now there on the screen this one yeah okay thank you and francine participant 2 you are number 2 yes no no i am 3 you are 3 i can make it full would you want it full full screen yes yes yes okay okay as user interface designer i did a little research to find out what are the features which a user would like to have on their remote yeah can you please go onto the next slide so i found out that but the main purpose of a remote is to f control the function of a television at a far off distance at remote distance now for that a remote controller should have a switch on off button by which a user can sit anywhere in the room in front of the t v and he can control the functionalities different functionalities of the t v there should be a signal something like a radio wave or a infrared light or a led which can be used to change the different functionalities in the television if the user wants to change the channels or increase the volume he can change it now there should be some timer to set for viewing a particular a particular program or switching on and off a a particular program according to the user choice on the on on the remote yes yeah yes so if if he want to view a particular program at say 90 clock he can set the time right and the t v will automatically it will switch on at that particular time so he can use that kind of properties of features and then there should be a child lock system if a particular channel is not to be viewed by a particular for a certain age yes by your child then the parents can lock that particular channel so that the ch children cannot view that channel and the the and the one of the feature a user would like to have is the compactness of the co remote t the remote should be compact and it should ha it should have as many buttons as possible for controlling different functionalities of the t v television and as this is my personal preference that it should be in the shape of a t in alphabet for more compactability and and and it is one more point which i noted it down like the material which which which is used for remotes should be human friendly it should not cause any skin disease or something some al allergy to either children or to ad adult person kay and it should have an it can have an alarm clock a a person if some if somebody wants to get up at around 88 p m then he can set the time and it can be used as an alarm clock and i do not think it will cost much to set an alarm clock inside a remote yeah sure if there is a clock then there can be a alarm clock and an alarm clock yeah that should that should be okay yes and as john reece said the buttons can be can me we can use the fluorescence to light up the buttons so different buttons will glow differently so in even in the dark the user can know what buttons to use to switch on a particular channel and the design of the remote should be in such a way that there should not be any sharp projections so that if a child plays with a remote he he should not be harmed in any way and findings i found out y on different sites that there are different remotes which can be used there are remotes which use the infrared for controlling the different functionalities there are remotes which use the radio waves to control the functions and there are so there you have different types of remotes for different light source which are used which can be used for controlling the different functionalities of a television next slide and these are my few personal preferences like it can be used for a multipurpose use not no like it can it can be used as a t v control as plus an alarm clock to set an alarm a timing and it should have a child lock and then to save electricity there should not be much s move lots of circuits and all that and if a person if if if parents wants the television to be switched off by 100 clock then it should be switched off 100 at 100 clock automatically so that nobody else comes later and use it it is like a t okay it is like a timer it is like a lock to the television timer yeah timer yeah and then you can use a timer as well yes yeah that is it okay now i have on my slide show basically we already we have already done the agenda and on the closing basically there will be lunch break and all that however the decision we have to take in this meeting is who is our target group okay and what function working design how how does it work so these are the 2 things we should come up wit with so the 1st thing is pro maybe a little easier on who is our target group i guess in many ways everybody everybody who has a t v t v yeah t v television we was yeah and i think today there are probably not many people who do not have a t v do not t v yeah there are a few but in general not now talking about the target group which is in a sense everybody but i think within the target group we have subgroups we have we have earlier it was mentioned about for example elderly people who have limited function with their fingers and hands so i think that is one group that is certainly important then we have just the nervous people who can never press a little button on anything unless it is really very clear yeah and i do not know how much we want to cater to children is use i mean that is a question whether that is important that children can really use it or not so this these are just some thoughts i have on it and i dunno what you feel about whether we can just say we have one target group and for this one target group we are going to design this one thing or whether we are looking at what we like we we talking about different shapes yeah whether that different shape also includes maybe different buttons for different groups well you know there is the old motto children under 6 never shop alone so if you have designed something that is very attractive to children the mummy please mummy please you know we want it now we want to go to the store and see it that has a lot of marketing pull that has a lot of that has a lot of appeal but i think i am i am talking about the functionality now on it whether we are looking at different groups i think the children issue can be addressed with the shape and with colors that is right yeah different colors you know like you make it nice and pink fluorescent banana color or whatever you know yeah for example you know yes you can make a banana shaped one yeah but the question is really who is our target group do we look at one target group and with the €25 you know can we can we afford to have i am asking the technical people here whether to look at sort of subgroups with maybe different buttons for each group how much would that throw us out of the cost we are supposed to respect respect okay no generally we can we can design a remote which is mainly for people with f age from 10 to 40 and and then we can add on specific functional buttons for children as well as the elderly people or the people wit with who have nervous problems right with with yes we can design different remotes for different people like for aged people there will be big buttons and you know well that is that is but in a family in a family there will be a aged person children and a middle aged but they cannot buy 3 different remotes yeah children and everybody yeah they would like to buy just one and just one which can be used all the 3 yeah of course that we can do but specifically if y if like elderly people want big buttons then you can not really make a bi big remote controller so maybe specifically you can design a big con remote controller for elderly and for children what about the electronics like in a different you know that is not really going to change much is it yeah cost effective no it it does not cost yeah that that w that will not change much will it no yeah does not does not does not matter the the quest the question to be addressed here is only who is the target group and how will it function i d i would not think so and i think the how will it function is probably the question of the buttons you know within the target group or subgroups yeah the question is only whether our budget will allow to have more than one design in a sense yeah i mean the basic design i understand will be the same but the question is how much will that set us back if let us say 40% we make large buttons and the rest we make regular buttons for example okay yeah yeah so that remains to s to be seen but the target group as a whole is is basically everybody with a t v that is right and can we can we is it even feasible to make 11 remote control with something for everyone yes or would we have to use the same electronics and make 3 different shapes yeah well that is that is the question the same electronics and basically all that is going to be different is the plastic case and in that case we could probabl molded plastic is not all that expensive is it you as an industrial person no i i i do not think no well maybe there is there is an idea you know t the new for example new portable phones it is not they have like removable plastic cases yeah so you can have a striped one or you can have a fluorescent blue one or whatever and maybe something like that okay that in each package you know you have you you have you have for example you have let us say a fluorescent blue on it but then you have another color or stripe whatever that already comes in a package well there is a real idea yeah and then if people really want more colors they can buy it separately yeah right yeah like for mobile phones we have different you know covers like designs and all so that w we can have that you know yes yes that is right and but like if if then everybody is is is tired of the fluorescent blue and of the striped or whatever they have as another one in the package yeah then they can go to the store and for a few francs or euros whatever they can buy an alternate package with another 2 colors in it you know for example you know yeah an alternate package yeah okay but yeah i i have a doubt like will it be cost wise effective if we if we design a remote having all the different features for different people or designing 3 different remotes for 3 different categories of people well i think i think the idea here is to to to d design one remote and what the only change is going to be the funct d t yeah the functional functional cosmetics if you want to put it that way yeah but well i think we can only aff yeah okay yeah cosmetic of th okay okay having maybe larger buttons or buttons that light up or buttons that are slightly differently shaped for people either for children 5 minutes that was i guess tha that is the old message warning finish meeting now finish meeting now well we may have to come back to one or 2 of these points at our next meeting but yeah maybe yeah yeah but i think i i think to sum it up the target group is basically everybody if we do some more research maybe we if money permits we can address some features for some subgroups within that okay yeah i think maybe 70% is a unique remote controller and 30% is yeah it is sort of like yeah okay but we have to l do we agree do we do we agree on on that in principle like money will tell whether we will be able to do that or not yeah yeah of course yeah okay fair enough yes okay so now i understand it is lunch break and so that is what we will do okay okay so hank you very much thank you and we will see you after lunch
come up okay is everybody ready yeah i just put on my microphone here and i will be right with you okay i take it you all have received instructions as to what you were supposed to do yes and i think the marketing manager probably should go 1st addressing the needs and desires okay you want me to start right now yeah okay well could you put my slides up because i think it might be helpful if we looked at the slides at the same time okay your participant 4 i believe yes okay and now i can full screen open okay okay okay well i think we have introduced ourselves so the functional requirements is is part of my goal but why do not we pass right to the 2nd slide because that is where my discussion starts all right well since i am in charge of trying to figure out what we should put on this thing since i have to try to sell it i thought that the method i should follow would be gather suggestions from everybody and the reason i just put that there like that is that in the initial stage i think i should just be open to lots of suggestions you know you can say anything you want no matter how silly it sounds you know it should run your car it should heat up your motor it should turn on your seating or whatever you want it to do and then as we go on what we will have to do is accept and eliminate these suggestions according to design and budget feasibility so i will be coming to you frequently as the industrial expert to tell me how hard it is going to be to add a feature or how expensive it is going to be or if your time it takes 5 years to develop this it is just something we can not do so in the beginning just have a big puddle of things that we anybody can throw anything in and then just weed things out that can not be done for one reason or another and then the things that seem the most attractive to a customer we will try to then prioritize those so that was what i meant there and as i said on the slide they are consulting the industrial engineer about that and the other thing is timey is really going to be as important as money because if we are going to sell this thing i think the best time to sell it is a christmas present €25 makes a nice little present and we want it to be an impulse purchase we want somebody to see it and think i just got to have that and take out their wallet and buy it so it has got to be really attractive but it has got to go to market by september because anything that you do not have already out there in september showing it around is not going to sell for christmas and then i will be coming to you as the user interface person to try to tell me from your point of view what are the most friendly features that we could put on it and try to help me with that prioritizing of the features and of the look and the color and i will be coming back to you to help weed out those suggestions from that point of view so we are coming to you for how much is it going to cost and how long is it going to take you and i will be coming to you to tell me what is going to make somebody take out their wallet you know what what is what is going to really be what they call the sizzle because we got to sell the sizzle a lot of times the thing that works the best from an engineering point of view is not the thing that somebody is really just going to take out their wallet and buy for christmas for for their child or for their husband or whatever okay can we go the next slide please i already did a little bit of research after our 1st meeting where we threw out some ideas and it looks to me that within the budget that we are looking at the whole house idea really is not going to be possible so i would like your suggestions to come back to the other slide where i was saying we could suggest anything i would like the suggestions to be really specific so that we will have a list of things we can cross off not something like you know whole house control and then i found on the internet from my research research that some extended electronic entertainment control should be possible at the budget that we are looking at and at the price point we are looking at we should be able to make it work the tv the vcr the stereo set maybe something else cute like a coffee pot or one other appliance or maybe a lamp can i at this point interject something we have received instruction from higher up that certain things should not be considered okay the one thing for example something to eliminate maybe that is the teletext because that is sort of outdated with the internet and according to higher management it should only control the tv mostly because they feel that it is too complex a task to include other things and they are concerned with the time to market of course yeah okay and the 3rd thing that they want to make sure that the corporate image is being maintained and that the corporate color and design are being used on the product so that it is easy that they can be easily identified as a product of the company and that there is no mistake that it could be somebody else who is bringing this out so i just wanted to interject this here so we are not getting too much off track here with the things we want to look at these were instructions from higher up so we have to eliminate these things so it is only going to be tv but the one thing maybe that could be eliminated it is a teletext idea okay okay all right thanks for that all right now other things that i found out on in my research is that the complaints that people have about the remote controls that are out there now is a lot of them take too much time to learn how to use and that was 34% but even more important the thing that we did address in our last meeting that frequently it is lost somewhere in the room so those are 2 things that we definitely do want to address we want to make it as simple as possible we want to make it obvious and intuitive to use and then the things about finding it we talked about a light emitting thing as well as maybe a beep and i think that those are things after my research that we definitely want to try to incorporate okay can we go to the next slide please okay so my personal preferences in this project are we really have to concentrate on the sizzle that is the selling point the thing that is going to make it an impulse purchase because once there is no be back well in sales they always say you know be backs do not come back if somebody says 0 i will come back and get it next week you are dead they are never going to come back and buy it you have got to make it attractive enough so they buy it now now now is a big word in my book for selling this thing and in order to make it really saleable we have got to shorten the learning curve make sure it is really intuitive and easy to use we have to have as few buttons as possible because more buttons is more confusion so that is why i am saying simplicity is good finding it is important obviously you can not use it if you can not find it so we have got to concentrate on the features that help you find it and i have already said this several times but i put it down in writing here should be an attractive impulse purchase at €25 so it has to have enough value that when somebody looks at it they say €25 i am not going to take that has to be so great that they are going to say 0 €25 is not much and then maybe a motto like we put fashion and electronics might be something we can use in our marketing campus campaign okay that is about it for me right now okay and who would be next i guess that would be you yeah you want me to get your slides show up yeah yeah thank you and you are number 3 number 2 number 2 okay can you make it a full screen please no that is like a one yeah you have to put up cup shape yeah yeah 3rd yeah exactly so today i am going to talk about the working design of the remote controller okay you go to the next slide please the method is like in a remote controller you have a chip integrated circuit which is like a brain of the remote controller it takes the power from a battery say battery it can not be an electric supply like you have to like switch connect connect your remote controller to power supply from the you know electricity or something like that it should be a battery because a remote controller should be like you you should take it to to wherever you want and then this integrated circuit it takes energy from the power source and whatever like if you press a button it is like an input for the remote controller and it takes the input and it transforms into infrared bits and it sends it to the device like a tv or air conditioner something like that so a remote controller is specifically designed to a single device if you want to design it for multiple devices then you should make all the devices compatible with the frequency like the remote controller it sends some bits some waves like with a particular frequency the device should know what the frequency is it should recognize the waves which are coming from the remote controller and it should take the action like if you press a button channel or something like that then the remote remote control will send a signal and the tv it should translate that in to change the channel or something like that change the volume control and so i think it is hard to design a remote controller for multiple devices yeah well that is already been eliminated by management so we are off the hook so user interface controls the chip and accordingly the messages like there should be a user interface like a you know switch pad or something like that buttons should be there so you can control whatever you want you want to change the channel you want to control the volume you want to mute mute the tv or you want to have a child lock or you want to do some operations there is a there should be some device to tell what to do to the in integrated circuit so that the integrated circuit can send the signals and tv can perform the actions so can you go to the next slide please so i just would like like to add some extra features to the remote controller i think these are the very simple features and they do not take much of the investment also it is like the text or buttons which are there on the remote controller those we can make like fluorescent they will be light emitting if it is dark so that you can find your remote control if it is dark and there should be a beep if many buttons are pressed if suppose a child is playing with the remote controller and she or he is pressing the buttons all at the time then there should be a beep saying that this is not a you know action there can be no action taken to that and there should be a child lock like you should be able to lock your remote controller so that whatever buttons are pressed by a child they can not be if you have kids and all then they are playing with remote controllers so you can lock the remote controller make it usable for more than one device it is a it is hard but it is possible yeah well that has been eliminated so that is that is unfortunately a mute point now and different shapes that we can do like we can have you know all animal shapes or you know comfortable which can fit into your hands and that is good from a marketing point of view you the fun shape and colors also you say that will not add too much to the budget no no i do not think it will be like you can have you know if you want it just build a mold basically and you know it is just a shape so it does not matter it is a budget we are looking at if you build one mold i do not think that is going to make a big difference whether it is going to be square or do you think there is any chance of having basically the same machine with the same buttons but maybe several different shapes yeah that is also possible is that going to be possible because that might help with the marketing i think we will have to look at the budget on that but i think in principle that that would be kind of fun because we had something sort of sexy for adults yeah you could have something sort of silly for children like an animal like a little elephant so they can remember where it is yes and the buttons also i think if you want to have more features in your remote controller then there should be more buttons if there are more buttons then it will be more complicated if you have less features then your remote controller will not be attractive so i think we need to make some buttons which are like intended for 2 or 3 operations like if you press one button in one mode then it will change the channel if you press the other button in another mode it will change the color so if you want to have less buttons we can have that option but i think it will complicate the matter more i think i think that that is something that we will have to discuss with the user interface person because i think there is a lot of arguments we made for one button for one feature because i think one of the things people were complaining about when i found out in my research is when they complained about how hard it is to learn a new one the changing modes was something i mean you and i all 4 of us we work with computers all the time changing modes is nothing for us but people who a little elderly a little arthritic hand you know and it is a small button and they do not press it exactly you know something else happens and not their favorite channel comes up but something else and they are very frustrated it is the kind of thing people learn by feel and you do not feel the mode change so maybe having buttons be various shapes might be helped you know like the triangle is for the volume and a square is for changing channels so that people can develop a tactile sense of it but we will get to that with you and also text should be very clear that there will not be any ambiguities that is right yeah no that is a good point and display clock if you want more features then we can display a clock i do not think it will take any money extra money because anyway we have an integrated circuit i think we can just definitely fit that feature into the circuit yeah that is a good one because the clock could be really friendly yes when is your favorite show coming on yeah you see this is there on radio maybe you have no other yeah a lot of time there is not a clock on the screen and you have to go somewhere but you just want to look at the news for a minute yeah that is good the clock is good okay can you go to the next slide please the main components may need for it are like buttons and underneath that there should be switch and bulbs like we can have a bulb like whenever we are operating a remote controller or whenever the tv is on suppose then the remote controller should automatically have a light then it will be like if you switch on your tv through another another source not from through a remote remote controller and you you lost your remote controller maybe you can find with the light maybe we can have that whenever the tv is on remote controller will have a light and then infrared bulbs this is like when it is dark yeah and battery there should be a battery for power supply and a chip chip which is like a brain to the remote controller which does all the operations and wires connecting all chips which is lights everything so there should be wires and of course there should be a case where we can keep all the things and you know different shapes or whatever it is there should be a case to put to give the remote yeah yes case a case holder a holder remote holder yeah yeah i am okay i am going to next slide please i have referred the site the site the home page of the our website from where i have a i got few points that is it that is it from me now okay so we should visit this site and have a look at what is up there 0 you do not have to it is not like that i have referred the page to get new ideas or like what can be the working design to how it works and all okay so it might be helpful if we had a look at that yeah if you want okay thank you did you go back to that slide where she had that side up betsy it is actually there on the screen this one yeah thank you and frantz you are number 2 no no i am 3 you 3 would you want it full screen yes ok as a user interface designer i did a little research to find out what are the features which a user would like to have on their remote can you please go on to the next slide so i found out that the main purpose of a remote is to control the function of a television at a far off distance at remote distance now for that a remote controller should have a switch on off button by which a user can sit anywhere in the room in front of the tv and i can control the functionalities different functionalities of the tv there should be a signal something like a radio wave or an infrared light or a lead which can be used to change the different functionalities in the television if the user wants to change the channels or increase the volume he can change it now there should be some timer to set for viewing a particular particular program or switching on and off a particular program according to the user on on the remote yes yes so if if you want to view a particular program at say 90 clock he can set the time right and the tv will automatically it will switch on at that particular time so he can use that kind of properties or features and then there should be a child lock system if a particular channel is not to be viewed by a particular for a certain age then the parents can lock that particular channel so that the children cannot view that channel and the and the one of the feature a user would like to have is the compactness of the remote the remote it should be compact and it should have it should have as many buttons as possible for controlling different functionalities of the tv television and as this is my personal preference that it should be in the shape of a t an alphabet for more compactability and and and there is one more point which i noted it down like the material which which is used for remote should be human friendly it should not cause any skin disease or something some allergy to either children or to an adult person and it should have an it can have an alarm clock a person if somebody wants to get up at around 8 p m and it can set the time and it can be used as an alarm clock and i do not think it will cost much to set an alarm clock inside a remote sure if there is a clock then there can be a alarm clock and as janvi said the buttons can be we can use the fluorescence to light up the buttons so different buttons will glow differently so even in the dark the user can know what buttons to use to switch on a particular channel and the design of the remote should be in such a way that there should not be any sharp projections so that if a child plays with a remote he should not be harmed in any way and findings i found out different sites that there are different remotes which can be used there are remotes which use the infrared for controlling the different functionalities there are remotes which use the radio waves to control the functions and you have different types of remotes with different light source which can be used for controlling the different functionalities of a television next slide and these are my few personal preferences like it can be used for a multipurpose use not no like it can be used as a tv control as plus an alarm clock to set an alarm a timing and it should have a child lock and then to save electricity there should not be much more lots of circuits and all that and if a person if parents wants the television to be switched off by 100 clock then it should be switched off at 100 clock automatically so that nobody else comes later and use it ok it is like a timer timer here timer yeah and then you can use a timer as well yes yeah that is it ok now i have on my slideshow and on the closing basically there would be lunch break and all that however the decision we have to take in this meeting is who is our target group and what function working design how does it work so these are the 2 things we should come up with so the 1st thing is maybe a little easier on the who is our target group i guess in many ways everybody everybody who has a tv tv television viewers yeah and i think today there are probably not many people who do not have a tv they are a few but in general not now talking about the target group which is in a sense everybody but i think within the target group we have subgroups we have earlier it was mentioned about for example elderly people who have limited function with their fingers in hands so i think that is one group that is certainly important then we have just the nervous people who can never press a little button on anything unless it is really very clear and i do not know how much we want to cater to children is use i mean that is a question whether that is important that children can really use it or not so these are just some thoughts i have on it and i do not know what you feel about whether we can just say we have one target group and for this one target group we are going to design this one thing or whether we are looking at what we are talking about different shapes whether that different shape also includes maybe different buttons for different groups well you know there is the old motto children under 6 never shop alone so if you design something that is very attractive to children the mommy please mommy please you know we want it now we want to go to the store and see it that has a lot of marketing pull that has a lot of appeal but i think i am talking about the functionality now on it whether we are looking at different groups i think the children issue can be addressed with the shape and with colors that is right you know like you make nice and pink fluorescent banana color or whatever you make a banana shaped one yeah for example you know but the question is really who is our target group do we look at one target group and with the €25 you know can we afford to have i am asking the tech people here whether to look at the sort of subgroups with maybe different buttons for each group how much would that throw us out of the cost we are supposed to respect okay generally we can we can design a remote which is mainly for people with age from 10 to 40 right and and then we can add on specific functional buttons for children as well as the elderly people or the people with who have nervous problems maybe we can design different remotes for different people like for aged people there will be big buttons and you know well in a family in a family there will be an aged person children and a middle age but they cannot buy 3 different remotes they would like to buy just one and just one which can be used by all the 3 course that we can do but specifically if like elderly people want a big buttons then you can not really make a bit big remote controller so maybe specifically you can design a big remote control for elderly and for children what about the electronics that is not really going to change much is it no that well that will not change much will it the question the question to be addressed here is only who is a target group and how will it function and i think so how will it function is probably the question of the buttons you know within the target group or subgroups the question is only whether our budget will allow to have more than one design in a sense i mean the basic design i understand will be the same but the question is how much will that set us back if let us say 40% we make large buttons and the rest we make regular buttons for example so that remains to be seen but the target group as a whole is basically everybody with a tv that is right and can we can we is it even feasible to make one remote control with something for everyone or we have to try to use the same electronics and make 3 different shapes yeah well that is the question the same electronics and basically all that is going to be different is the plastic case and in that case we could probably molded plastic is not all that expensive is it you are an industrial person i do not think no well maybe there is an idea you know the new for example new portable phones they have like removable plastic cases so you can have a striped one or you can have a fluorescent blue one or whatever and maybe something like that that in each package you know you have there is a real idea you have for example you have let us say a fluorescent blue want it but then you have another color or a stripe or whatever that already comes in the package and then if people really want more colors they can buy it separately right like for mobile phones we have different you know covers that is right but like if then everybody is tired of the fluorescent blue and of the stripe or whatever they have as another one in the package then they can go to the store for a few francs or euros whatever they can buy an alternate package an alternate package with another 2 colors in it you know for example yeah okay but yeah i have a doubt like will it be cause twice effective if we if we design a remote having all the different features for different people or designing 3 different remotes for 3 different categories of people well i think the idea here is to design one remote okay and the only change is going to be the functional functional cosmetics if you want to put it that way having maybe larger buttons or buttons that light up or buttons that are slightly differently shaped for people either for children 5 minutes i guess that is the old message warning finish meeting now well we may have to come back to one or 2 of these points at our next meeting but but i think if we do some more research maybe i think to sum it up the target group is basically everybody if money permits we can address some features for some subgroups within that okay do we agree do we agree on that in principle like money will tell whether we will be able to do that or not okay yes fair enough okay so now i understand it is lunch break and so that is what we will do okay okay so thank you very much thank you thank you and we will see you once for lunch thank you