how long have you been in the industry starting with your medical coding or maybe it was something even prior to that? I've actually been in the health care industry for 30 years, I started right out of high school as a medical transcriptionist. And I did that for about 20 years and about half of that time I worked at home. And I got to the point where I was going  was going to stay and you know and I crave learning I crave doing new things and I needed to be around people because I was home all day every day and so I took a job as a receptionist at a local clinic and I was actually introduced into coding fair and I fell in love with it. I ended up transferring to another department and it was hospital charges and I got to code all day long loved it and the more I got in there and and learned I just I had to keep I had to keep going I got my CPC in 2015 and as I got in there and started doing different specialties and found out I love EMs. I love auditing. Wow. So 2017 I studied and I got my CPA. And as I got into that, and the more I did, the more I thought, I love all these laws. I love the regulations. I just, I love it. And so I got my CPC-O in 2018. And I mean, it's just, it's been a constant thing. A-A-P-C, they offer so much. And it doesn't matter where you're at, but you can keep going. Right now, of course, in the job I do now