and then this program opened at the college for medical insurance and I said well I got a letter saying you meet the prerequisites would you like to join this okay I'm still interested in health care I'll take this and then my professor recommended me for a position so filler slash coder and that got me started and then every position I've had since then they've basically come to me so I have not had to do a job search so when people say how do I search for a job well. I can tell you but I can't tell you from experience. So I started out as billing and coding for an imaging facility and I had a background in finance and banking and I was actually in a collections unit at a bank. So part of the job was you know patient collections. Okay. So it kind of rolled into into that. I was working there one night and someone came in from an orthopedic unit and they were getting an MRI and they said you know we're looking for a bill or a coder if you know anyone and I said well gee let me see if I can move up and I did and I actually became a billing manager there and then I was recruited heavily by Highmark in Pittsburgh for a risk adjustment department that they were starting and they hounded me for six months and I finally gave in. I said, okay, let's see what this is about. So yeah