so it's hard for National to kind of keep an eye on them. they can get lost on the shuffle but with the BOD in place we can make sure that that doesn't happen and we try to being able to assist them in any way to be successful and create free CEU opportunities, job opportunities, networking opportunities for those members. It's just, it's such a fulfilling, fulfilling thing to do. And I know there are, there are many, like you said, over 500 local chapters. Some are thriving and to have great unity and a lot of energy. And there are some who they may just be in their infancy in trying to get traction. It's when you go to an APC national conference, you really feel that connection with the members. And I know you can you can have that experience with the local chapter, but did that, well, when was your first health? It was Atlantic City. It was Atlantic City in 2017. And I had just opened the Ellenville New York chapter. So I had cards and I was running around to everybody asking them to like my Facebook page and you know do and I ended up with so many contacts from there. Wow, well, it was amazing. And how will this experience that you've had direct your evolution going forward, Tina? What do you see in your sites in the horizon? I feel like, I'm kind of, you know what, I'm not going to say that I'm content where I am right now, but as long as I'm doing this kind of work, I'm going to be really happy. But something that gives me that personal sort of really super warm feeling is being able to develop outside of myself. I can develop myself fine