had you ever spent time after receiving your CPC doing production coding or, you know, just what you would think is a entry level coding type of position? So I personally haven't been a coder myself. I actually use these certifications for growing in what I do. So as a supervisor, I had to educate back office staff, sometimes providers. And so I wanted to get my own knowledge of the coding world because I wanted to make sure we were doing things properly. And so I also reached out to our coding team. Those were my experts at the time. I said, well, this is how I would code it. What do you think? And so I did take the opportunity to use what I knew to enhance what I did. Okay, okay. And as a supervisor, do you have a hand in hiring coders? I didn't as coders, but I did as charged capture or data entry level at the time. Okay. And for those, you know, you after you pass the that hurdle of the exam, some individuals have that hurdle of getting into health care and finding that first job. What would you say to someone who is trying to break in and find that first position? I would say whatever you can get your hands on or your step in to the health care industry, do it. Whether it be a, you know, the stepping stone of a medical records assistance like I was, it would give you the opportunity to network, be that person that networks