absolutely. It's great. I mean, and as you say about the APC, one of the things with the students that they tell them, you know, you do the interview process because they learn both the soft and hard skills. I said, I don't care how much you hate a job in coding. I don't care. Do not burn that bridge. I said, you leave with every ounce of dignity and respect and professionalism. Because I said, if you burn that bridge, I can guarantee you, that manager knows somebody who knows somebody that knows somebody that when you apply for that next job, you just burn your bridges across the board. So there is definitely different employee employment world. It really is. My new boss that they brought in as a director. I got called on a Friday, you have a new boss. Okay. Monday morning. I found out her name. And I was like, oh, I already know her. But and she was in Jersey. But and she's like, oh, I remember you're at conference, and that, that, that's how small, how small we are, but how large we are. That's the right, I mean, and I completely agree, and that's what I was just going to say. We are so big and there's so many coders, but it is such a tight-knit circle and community and you get to know everybody across the country. Yeah. So that's awesome. Well Heather, as we wind down, what advice would you give to new students or those who are thinking about this as a career path? If you're thinking about it as a career path, it's definitely a challenge and well worth the challenge. And if you're working towards your certification, don't give up