really interesting and there isn't a day that goes by that I don't learn something because you just can't always, you can't know it all. Yeah, and how does APC fit into this ttourny where it sounds like you had started this path and found AAPC later. Is that true? That is true and actually when I was first coding they had just started our local chapter that was in the area that I was working. It was the Seaco Stover, New Hampshire chapter. They had just launched that and I think it was two or three years actually before I got involved in going to the meetings. But as soon as I did, I realized that this would be an opportunity, not only to meet other coders in the area, but also, you know, to receive resources and to have the opportunity potentially to meet people from across the country. And so as time went by, I became more active in my local chapter. I served on the Chapter Association Board of Directors. I've participated in a number of projects that AAPC has asked for, as in my role in both the National Advisory Board and Chapter Association Board of Directors