Laura. So there are I have a lot of questions for you. So you're a stay-at-home mom and you're seeking a career. What led you to medical coding exactly? Just, like I said, I wanted to find some skills for myself so that once I did enter the work field again, that I would have, you know, something to offer, something to do and possibly work from home, something like that in mind. Well, did you have a friend who work in the industry or did you just search on the internet and think maybe this would work for me? I'll check it out. Time, it was just something that I just kind of searched for on my own and, you kind of heard about that it was an up and coming thing and I heard about the APC, AAPC back then too and some of the things that were going on in the classes that were starting and stuff but yeah. Okay so you're just priming the pump trying to prepare yourself. Or that, I mean, you're like, my kids are getting, aren't getting any younger. And I need to prepare myself. So you took the course, did you take the exam right after you took the course? Oh, well, this wasn't, this first class I took wasn't through the AAPC. Oh, okay. This one prepared me for, for the jobs entering the workforce. And then later, I was, I've had like 10 years of experience in the, in medical billing and coding. And I got laid off due to COVID and that's when I had the opportunity to take the time for myself to get my CPC through the AAPC. Okay so you prior to being AAP certified you had some medical encoding experience. Yes. Okay