Welcome to another edition of I am AAPC. I am AAPC, Alex and today I have with me. Dina Mellon. Dina, thank you so much for being with us today. Tell us about how you found your way to the medical coding path. Well, I, my first husband was a physician and I worked in his office as a primary care physician in internal medicine. I always say that was my kindergarten education into this arena and I found that I love the whole reimbursement part of things and just kind of like somebody said you all of a sudden feel like you're getting sucked in or pulled in back when I started, of course, like the other people who spoke, we did everything by hand, there was no EMR, we felt that it was by form, by hand. And one day in this primary care office, which was my ex-husband, I got a call from a company who called themselves Metair. And this is way back, this is in the mid-80s. They wanted to know if I would be interested in working with them on a pilot program called Electronic Claims. And I was like, oh, that sounds interesting. So we communicated back and forth, and it was, at that time, I marked Blue Shield was helping to formulate and initiate this new program of electronic claims, and they asked me if I would be on the other end. So anyhow, long story short is that was the beginning. Shortly after that, I went out of my own and left that primary care office. Also, side of mine, I got divorced, but it also helped me to then recognize that, hey, I had a career. I then, in the, this was the early days AAPC had really just started. Wait a second