you know, these years of doing this. Yeah. Before I got this job I'm in now. Okay. I never would have got this job without those certifications. Okay. I mean, I can guarantee it. I never would have got it. Okay. Now, when you're working as a new coder, you're working, you're loving it. And at a point, you decide to be certified. But how did you learn about certification and AAPC? Well, actually I learned about it through my boss at the clinic. And she was a CPC and that's basically how I was introduced into it. And what I did to prepare, of course, at that time, I didn't know anything about any kind of courses that you can take. And so I just, I bought the study guide and bought the three practice exams. And that's basically all I did. I did that study guide, I did those practice exams over and over and over and read my books. I read my coding books and anyway I took my test and passed. Well, and that and passed. Well, you know how difficult the exam can be and how we see in the group in the AP Facebook group the challenges that people face and not everybody passes it on the first try. Was it stressful for you? What was that exam experience like? Oh my word. The CPC exam was I would never want to take it again. It was very hard. I had to actually had to travel five hours to take my test. Wow. And it took almost the full, at that time it was five hours and 40 minutes. And it took almost right at the five hours and 40 minutes for me to do it. Wow. When I got done and my husband, he had come to