you know, I can have a physician who really believes something could be coded in a manner and it's totally not correct. And then you have to look at the compliance end of that. So there's a lot of preparation for those meetings and those meetings can get quite fun. They're passionate, you're passionate, and it's just intense sometimes, but it's very rewarding. It's a rewarding career. So no regrets from you? No, I can never say, my husband tells me I work all the time, you know, is this all you, you know, all you're doing? You're reading another, you're watching another webinar, but you're talking about coding again, but it's, you know, it's my word fine. Do you play those word games like even the students? They're like, you know, we go buy books and play work and you don't have to buy a word game, no book, you, no more. Our, you know, coding is that work game. So I just have fun with it all the time. Awesome, that's so, that's so great to hear. Now, you, you mentioned the challenges of students or examinies who've struggled to pass the exam. I'd say that next level, like after they passed the exam, for some, it may be finding that first position. And everybody's path is different. Yours is different. And some, you know, we see it on the Facebook group, some individuals struggle. What advice do you give to newly certified members who are seeking their first job as a CPCA? As a CPCA, I would say, don't, number one