CPCA, you just came out of certification. So that's how I got in my foot in the door. Now, I did get other interviews. This wasn't the only position I interviewed for. I probably had 10 or 15 other interviews. I had one other offer, but I pulled out people that I used to work with. If they had any health care field connections, ask them. Again, networking through the AAPC's websites and local affiliates. Okay, Vanessa, I have to say you carry yourself very professionally and are very well spoken. So I would say soft skills, you know, non-coding type skills or strength of yours as well. Could you speak to that about being a professional exuding that professional confidence that you carry? Oh, thank you, Alex. Yes, you know, it's being able to sell yourself. I will say for me, some of that has come with maturity. But I did, I went on one, I went on YouTube and looked up videos about presenting yourself and there are some of the YouTubeers that are CPC and put videos about here is how you answer questions. If they talk about something that you haven't coded before, how you answer, those kind of things. So watching the videos online of other coders' experiences and people that just had really good advice to know the company you're working for, you know, that you're interested in working for, you know, the kind of skills you bring to the table, what are they looking for, okay, and know your worth, you know, be proud of what you've done. And I guess one thing that's really helped me is I