oh, okay. So we ended up searching for programs out here in Hawaii. And at the time, they were known as Hawaii Medical Institute. Now they're known as Hawaii Medical College. So I enrolled in the program, and I did the whole course. We did like anatomy, medical term and like fundamental stuff. And then when it came time to do my certification, I took it, but I did not pass it. But that was frustrating right. You're bumped because you worked so hard to prepare. Yeah, and unfortunately it was just during a time this was back in 2010 2011 where a lot of world stuff similar to what's going on now it was happening then and so I the job that I had gotten out of high school, it was starting to lay off people because they're running out of projects and work for us to do. And at the same time, in a personal level, I was going through a breakup. So my mind just wasn't there when it came time to take my certification. And so when I found out I didn't pass, obviously I was more determined and focused to find a job. And that meet and that put me on to the dental path. So I started working as a receptionist in the dental field. It was just similar to medical, you know, I got custom, my, more custom with how offices operate, how insurances work, benefits, dealing with the patients. And then eventually I left the small family dental offices and I ended up working as a provider service rep for the first call center United Health Care had here in Hawaii. So that really opened my eyes to the insurance part, you know how the claims, authorizations