but that is also a possibility that or a path that I thought about taking eventually as well. Okay, all right, that's a beautiful thing. There's so many opportunities. How has A. P. C. Helped you in your career. Oh my gosh, and a lot of ways just like just, just giving me my multiple jobs that I have, meeting certain individuals like Jerry Leung and other quotas around the world and builders around the world, and just opening doors that I always knew I wanted to walk through. I just didn't see how they would ever come, but you know, being part of AAPC and joining the conferences and joining the meetings and networking, that's one huge way of starting your career path. And eventually if you wanted your own business, that's one way to do it too because because you're going to be networking. And you mentioned conferences and you reached out to me because of health con and you attended that. Was that your first health con experience? It was my first health con virtually. I had attended, my first one was in Vegas. I forgot what year it was I think it was before a couple years prior but that was my first Halkon in Vegas that was really fun a lot of walking but Las Vegas everything is so far apart but both of them I really enjoy so obviously the virtual is a little bit more cost friendly because you're not spending on plane tickets and hotels. But if you love interacting, which you can do, I love the way you guys set up the app for the conference and like the vendors and the games, the games are really fun and just thethe trivia, it was either way