you know, we often think that employers just want the skills of the job requirement, but that's only a part of it. And it may even be less than half of what they're looking for. They're looking for a team player, someone dependable, and you had an excellent track record in the past. And my record in the animal field, just even getting the management job at such a young age really helped, helped with that because not a lot of people can get into management at 26. So just seeing that and seeing the kind of drive I had and how responsible I was and all that I had to look over, all the tasks that I had to look over. And we did work, our animals were trained to work with the vet with their own, so nothing was ever forced they took shots on their own they we had a we did have to learn how to restrain some but but just even have just having some some medical knowledge did help that's great great to hear and you know so if you're watching I think you should follow Katie's lead here and look at you in your past and how does that apply to skills that you can take into a health care office. Katie you mentioned that your first coding job was ER coding? Yes. And was that within the same health system that you were working as a medical assistant? No, it was they're completely different organizations. I basically applied to every job possible. Even if it didn't say entry level