see, it's spelling. But Dr. Zia is like top and interventional radiology. That's how he's the instructor of it. He's become the father coding of it. But he was presenting and my co-worker and I, we were like, we gotta hurry up, we gotta be a front and roll out. I said, we feel like we're seeing a movie star. We actually sat and spoke to him for like a half an hour, 45 minutes outside of the lecture. So that was neat. And there's some people that like read, you know, there's other, members or you know, officers, you only see them at conferences or only read an article on them or only maybe hear them on a webinar or maybe hear them on a webinar or something. So when you have when you see them and you talk to them and things it's it's fun and to meet with other coders that are in your same base and then when you sit at the tables and meet with different people I've've created some great friendships just with them for like the three days were there. And some great contacts like I've met with people from Alaska and and we message on Facebook, hey do you have you know, do you know this answer or you know how are you doing? So yeah it's it's just it grows your network. I'll say this other before I joined the APC family I did not know anything about medical coding and then you you come in and you realize quickly how big the APC family is. You know, we're over 200,000 members strong. And when you go to these conferences, you just feel so much, so much great energy and see how important medical coders are to the health care world. Yes