you know, how are they interacting. And I've approached people the newer, you know, some new members and said, you know, why don't you run for office for this? We need a secretary or we need this and it opened so many doors. Wow, that's so great to hear. Now, did I hear you say you had been to a regional conference? Yes. Or two? Okay. Yes. How do you go to health con or national conference? Not yet. I wanted to go this year, but I still debate it. Yeah. There's some speakers that this year were at health con and I'm sure I want to go. But I didn't. Well, next year we're in D.C. We're close to you. I know, I was just I was just speaking to one of my colleagues and I'm like, we're going right. You know, DC's next on the list. I sound we're on with the pandemic. It's hopefully done, but we're going. I think there is a, there are levels of APC community that you can feel. You know, you might be in a classroom and and going through that experience with your classmates, but then you go into a local chapters and you feel some camaraderie. And I think that grows and you see the vastness of the AAPC family. And what was it like attending a regional conference versus attending your local chapter meeting? Did you feel greater strength in unity? Were there a lot of people there to rely on and learn from? Absolutely. Absolutely. That regional conference, Dr. Z spoke. What is his, I can't pronounce his last name, but Dr. Z's, I was looking at my one book, see