I thought I had to apply for a certified professional coder job. So obviously I got very bad results at first because I just didn't really know what I was doing. But you just when you really really want something you'll do anything to figure it out. And that means humbling yourself and maybe asking for more help than you are one thing or used to asking for. And you just start to get repeat answers, you know, and repetitive advice, and you go, okay, I keep hearing the same key factors. It just slowly starts to click, but I couldn't have done it without asking all those questions and reading any articles that I could. Just asking around, really. So are you still in the hunt for your first position? No, I have two jobs. I've got a part-time coding job, and I have a full-time job at the number one. They're the health network in Pittsburgh. They're one of the two biggest health networks. So I work UPMC. And it, was it difficult for you? Do you feel like to come over the CPCA stigma? No, I still have my CPCA. I have not gotten my apprenticeship removed yet. Um, have two jobs. So obviously it's not, it's doable to get a job when you still have the apprenticeship tagged on to that certification. And did that come up in your interview? And how did you handle it? Never once did anyone ever bring that up. Wow. I probably had 50 interviews. Okay, so did you, you're just submitting applications and resumes to wherever you could? Yeah, eventually through asking questions on the Facebook groups, which are great groups