another provider? Back then it was through like an adult education program that they have in the area. Okay. At the APC online back then, had they? I probably, I definitely would have taken it. Yeah, yeah. About the coders here in our office that have taken the APC online course for the CPC exam and they usually pass the first time. Oh, wow. That's so great to hear now, but you had to take your exam, your CPC exam through AAPC. Tell us about your preparation for that and what was it like to actually take it? Was it harder than you thought? Was it easier than you thought? Tell us about that experience. So I did a lot of study in. I bought the online exams through AAPC, so I knew, would know what I was getting myself into, because those practice exams that they, that you're, were able to buy really preps us for the CP3 exam or any of the exams that we take through APC. And I took a little mini course. It was like an eight-hour course through a lady up here in our area in New York that teaches us how to prep for the exam and you know try not to overthink and we kind of learned our way around the, you know, the CPC book and the ICB 10 book, because that's the most important thing is knowing your way around the book. You mentioned you were, you live in New York or on the East Coast. Were you aware of a need of these positions in in medical coding, billing prior to taking the exam and taking that step forward? Yeah, I had started reading about what it was, how it was coming. I started like back with the HIPAA law because they were, you know