all right. And were you did you you did not have any ambitions right away to be a coder. It wasn't like you went into health care saying I want to be a medical code. Correct. Correct. I actually got the passion as I was working through the health care system. Okay. All right. So you were a transcriptionist for a while. Continue with your story. Yes. And then I actually enjoyed the charge capture piece. I then went into revenue integrity at the time we were called revenue audit. And I did charge capture for a few years, both inpatient, outpatient, ED, and then touched CPT codes then, and then got the opportunity to be a supervisor. And during that time, I liked coding. So I decided to, I heard about AAPC, took my, did the three-day boot camp camp that was offered and got my CPC back in 2011. So you had all of this great experience before you picked the coding path. Yes. Yes. Did that make it easier for you to dive into coding? And when you took  three-day boot camp, was it easier? You had comprehension of the system a little bit? Yes, I was able to link it to things that I knew. So that was nice. Because coding is, it's beast of its own. And it's not for everyone, but it's the exam itself is tough. I'm not a good test taker. I can say that and admit to it. But as far as taking that CP exam, the CPC exam, I actually wouldn't do that again. So I will continue my CEUs to get that keep going and it's been almost 10 years. Oh wow, well, so you've been an APC member for 10 years? Yes. Okay, awesome. Well, let's let's step back a little bit