so you are doing this patient service rep position. That's kind of your entry into this world. Right. At what point did you discover coding and how did it that evolve from there? So probably after I graduated with my two year degree, I got a two year degree from Ultimate Medical Academy out of Florida. I did just strict home health care billing. Then I moved into more of the physician side of coding and hospital. I dabbled a little bit in hospital for a couple of years. Like I said earlier, not where my passion was. It was more of that physician side, having that be where it's not as just diagnosis related and picks and PCS and all that stuff. So I did that for about five years before I started moving up. Okay. And when did you discover APC and our certifications? So that would have been after I've been coding for about seven and a half years. I did the bad thing. I let my certifications lapse. Don't ever do that, guys. It's the first thing ever. You have to sit through all those tests again. Oh no. But it was unavoidable at that time. And so I vowed then I don't care if I ever get out of health care. I'm still going to pay for my certifications because I'm not sitting through test I've already taken. Now I do want to get five more certifications. Wow. So I'm at two and a half now I'm working on hopefully going to get the last ones over the next two years. Okay, so one of those are CPC is a CPC. Correct. And tell me about the others that you currently hold. The other one is my C. G. I see. Okay. Okay. Awesome. I want to touc. But first