for half an hour , they talked about antonio and his macho in-law cousins and how much they , d hated him because he was g*y , and hated stuart , whom they blamed for antonio `` becoming '' g*y ; they talked about his stepfather herman buckler who paid the guys who , d kidnapped antonio and stuart , and wanted to kill and mutilate them both ; they talked about santa rosa , about blessed sacrament high school , and they talked about what it means to be a really really great criminal lawyer , like clarence darrow , who was stuart , s hero , and he would take the cases of the marginalized , the neglected , the despised .