what i hadnt realised was that pilots the world over , especially aerobatic pilots , were very skilled and well educated people , and usually had egos twice the size of a jumbo jet , they were certainly not backwards in coming forwards , so in pile ( 1 ) we surprisingly ended up with not only eight ex red arrows pilots but also three each that had flown with the spanish and portuguese national teams , two french ex team members , five americans from various teams over there , four civilian team members , and a rather pretty looking young russian girl .