after one such visit , when the hermits were in high spirits from the wine the pilgrims had brought ( and perhaps also from the mouldy rye-bread they were eating ) , calibur ventured to voice his doubts about their attitude to life , and what they said the about the one being irrevocably divorced from the world , and there was a loud disputation , until they came to agreement , upon which they all turned to him and accused him of blasphemy .