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                      You play as a conjurer living peacefully in your little hideout in the forest, when a female knight intrudes upon your territory. You decide to defeat her and enslave her.​
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                         2D Game, Combat, Mind Control, RPG, Turn-Based Combat, Male Domination, Corruption, Humiliation, Slave
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                         1- Extract to desired location.
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                         2- Click on "gamename.exe" to start playing.
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                         The game is out in November as promised! I still feel this game is somewhat of a demo of what I plan to do in the future. I'm going to release another demo soon, so keep an eye out. Expect up to 3-4 hours of gameplay.
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                         *There is and never will be grinding in this game.
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                         This game uses art from numerous artists. Credits are given in the game's main menu. Be sure to check it out for more info.
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                        uhh can you add some CG so we can decide if its worth playin it?
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                     I also got the : " img/sv_actors/11battlr.png " error.  If it helps, I didn't add any of the minions to my party before the fight, I wanted to see how strong the PC was on his own first.
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                     I hate v 0.1's they seem to crop up all the time, and it feels like most of them never go anywhere.  Even if they do, it doesn't really help me now, it's just telling me there might be something cool coming in the future.  I get that if you're trying to attract investors you want a proof of concept, and are hoping to get some money coming in to help along the way, but I really wish you (devs in general) could still do that without getting my hopes up, and wait until there's actually some content to release something.
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                        uhh can you add some CG so we can decide if its worth playin it?
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                     This is the only CG in the game
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                        Is that Miel art from this game:
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                        hey guys i checked Knight Submission\www\img\sv_actors and the is no file with the name "11battlr.png" ther are only :
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                     Strange... it works freshly unzipped on my pc. I'll test on a different pc and see if that's the problem.
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                     Well maybe I should change that to non-commercial? But what's the difference? Yes, I am asking for tips and donations. Completely optional. Anyone can play regardless of if they give me a donation. Can you explain what's misleading about it?
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                        Strange... it works freshly unzipped on my pc. I'll test on a different pc and see if that's the problem.
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                     so did you check it i realy like the game look and want to see more after the battle ends
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                        so did you check it i realy like the game look and want to see more after the battle ends
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                     Only one erotic image so far. Should be noted, this is essentially just the intro. I wanted to generate some interest and let people know that a big update is coming on October 25th. And people keep doubting me, but the game will be finished by the end of November!
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                         Disclaimer: A lot of people complaining about stolen art. If it's against forum rules, I'll put the game down immediately. It's a free game, and I didn't know people had such ethical qualms, especially considering games like sim brothel does the same thing and is fairly popular. I completely understand if you decided to pass on the game based on non-original art.​
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                     Sim Brothel et al did not have a patreon. Nor did they sell influence on the game's direction in exchange for 'donations'. In fact, it'd be interesting if
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                     Even if you claim the independent 'tip jar' defense and remove the perks, you started a fresh patreon which is attached to your new 0.001 pre-alpha rpg maker game (which uses stolen content that you didn't even acknowledge until someone recognized it and called you out on it). It's going to be pretty hard to claim you arn't getting any financial compensation for the game if the patreon takes off.
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                        Advice - if you not producing your own CG its better be to not use any CG at all (better than using stolen asset)
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                        Considering this is still demo guess its still fine, but not for final product.
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                        And a full released game with lots of additional content by end of November as deadline?? Either you are very ambitious or the game will be VERY short. As much as I hate to say it....I can't really see any drastic improvement within such time.....MAYBE if you go for pixel animation with text based contents rather than CGs.
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                     I have always made it clear on the games I have worked on that use artwork I do not have the right so, so downloaded, 'found', that I would accept no payment, tips or similar for them. You cannot make money off others work, both morally and legally.
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                        I have always made it clear on the games I have worked on that use artwork I do not have the right so, so downloaded, 'found', that I would accept no payment, tips or similar for them. You cannot make money off others work, both morally and legally.
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                     Holy shit, I feel star-struck!  Just wanted to say I'm not even a huge fan of the brothel sims, but I loved your work!  That was one of the first naughty games I ever played, and I have fond memories of it!
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                        i'm lost isn't this a pirate site why are people so upset when people pirate other games/art/videos, the hypocrisy is alive and well in this thread it seems.
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                        i'm lost isn't this a pirate site why are people so upset when people pirate other games/art/videos, the hypocrisy is alive and well in this thread it seems.
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                     Call it hypocrisy all you like but using someone else work and claim it as your own or placing it under your own brand while for a clear reason its not your own work - more over if the original owner of the work haven't given his/her permission to use his/her work is completely an asshole move.
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                     The closest example is like link theft - grab porn link from somewhere else, put it on your blog or web or patreon or whatever and claim that you are the 1 uploading the whole files.
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                        Well maybe I should change that to non-commercial? But what's the difference? Yes, I am asking for tips and donations. Completely optional. Anyone can play regardless of if they give me a donation. Can you explain what's misleading about it?
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                     If you are personally making money off the game in any form you are making a profit. That is the definition of the term.
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                     Donations are gifts given (generally to charity) without expectation of reward, so that doesn't really apply here because you are giving rewards.
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                     Okay, maybe you're just smarter than me then, but my knee-jerk reaction was similar, "he's using stolen assets... but this site steals games...  huh, that's funny."    It makes sense to me now, especially when people brought up making money off of it.  If you don't think about it too much it's totally weird on the surface though.
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                        If you are personally making money off the game in any form you are making a profit. That is the definition of the term.
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                        Non-commercial means the product isn't intended to make a profit, but given you have set up a patreon - with perks awarded for money - then non-commercial doesn't apply here either.
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                        Donations are gifts given (generally to charity) without expectation of reward, so that doesn't really apply here because you are giving rewards.
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                     Okay, after reading all these similar posts, I suppose I should address this... concern(?). Maybe the perks for money can be misconstrued as selling something. I think that's a fair point, so I've removed them. But to be frank, I don't understand the moral outrage. These hcgs float in the web by the masses. 99% of these eroges never get translated or marketed to the west. And don't pretend people here are paying money to look at hentai images or even play hentai games. It's a huge waste of assets, and I see it as a good chance to make something of it. It's a free game. Donations are optional. I'm not selling anything. People can play regardless of what happens to my patreon. Piracy, theft, whatever you want to call it. I just see it as utility. If this violates forum rules or whatnot, I'll take the game down immediately.
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                     If it offends your moral standard, don't play the game, don't support the game. But it's getting kind of ridiculous when people are pretending they're this great patron of porn games and hentai images. The robin hoods of hentai. You people probably have never spent a dime on any porn, which is normal and completely fine, but this high horse cock stroking is getting absolutely silly.
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                     But you do make an interesting point. So basically people are fine with stealing other people's work as long as no one profits monetarily. But if I make a completely new, free game with the exception of 10 pirated images, then it's a great moral concern... but only because of the fact that I asked for donations. I wonder if you people were equally disconcerted when piratebay &amp; co. started accepting donations or running ads on their sites. More needless bullshit to fuss over to those that do.
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                        Okay, maybe you're just smarter than me then, but my knee-jerk reaction was similar, "he's using stolen assets... but this site steals games...  huh, that's funny."
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                     Okay seems we all getting too hyped about the topic......and clearly you take what people saying here in the negative way rather than take it as a criticism for better.
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                     Feel free to disregard what people talk about your game and the content of it but don't be surprised if later on you will meet with some real issues from wider public on the finished product if things stays as is......
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                     All things considered.......you still got deadline to meet so less reading here and focus on what you doing please?? Lets get to it again when you deliver the final product.....in due month.
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                     "Don't play the game, don't support the game if it offends your moral standard." - soooo....were you saying people who play and support your game don't have moral standard?? Somehow its funny really.....
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                     I will still wait for the final product though - to see what can one achieve within a month and half......granted if you not taking down your game.
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                        Okay seems we all getting too hyped about the topic......and clearly you take what people saying here in the negative way rather than take it as a criticism for better.
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                     Aw, I like how you're encouraging him here, good on you.  Honestly, taking a look at that patreon, it probably wouldn't be an issue.  He'd probably have to make a significant amount of money for it to be worth taking any legal action, and it doesn't look like that'll happen soon.  Who knows though, this could be a hidden gem developed in record time that starts his erotic-game production career.
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                        "Don't play the game, don't support the game if it offends your moral standard." - soooo....were you saying people who play and support your game don't have moral standard?? Somehow its funny really.....
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                     No, that doesn't necessarily follow.  "If it offends your moral standard" means it might not offend someone's moral standard, not that they're immoral if it doesn't.  Nit-picking here, but if I'm not allowed to think pirating images on a pirating site is funny, you're not allowed to laugh at that.  XD
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                        Okay, after reading all these similar posts, I suppose I should address this... concern(?). Maybe the perks for money can be misconstrued as selling something. I think that's a fair point, so I've removed them. But to be frank, I don't understand the moral outrage. These hcgs float in the web by the masses. 99% of these eroges never get translated or marketed to the west. And don't pretend people here are paying money to look at hentai images or even play hentai games. It's a huge waste of assets, and I see it as a good chance to make something of it. It's a free game. Donations are optional. I'm not selling anything. People can play regardless of what happens to my patreon. Piracy, theft, whatever you want to call it. I just see it as utility. If this violates forum rules or whatnot, I'll take the game down immediately.
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                        If it offends your moral standard, don't play the game, don't support the game. But it's getting kind of ridiculous when people are pretending they're this great patron of porn games and hentai images. The robin hoods of hentai. You people probably have never spent a dime on any porn, which is normal and completely fine, but this high horse cock stroking is getting absolutely silly.
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                        But you do make an interesting point. So basically people are fine with stealing other people's work as long as no one profits monetarily. But if I make a completely new, free game with the exception of 10 pirated images, then it's a great moral concern... but only because of the fact that I asked for donations. I wonder if you people were equally disconcerted when piratebay &amp; co. started accepting donations or running ads on their sites. More needless bullshit to fuss over to those that do.
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                        Well, people are always free to stroke their cocks in a way that is morally palatable. Especially if it makes them get off harder (that's what we're all here for, after all).
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                     Whoa, dude, take it easy.  Listen, if you want to develop naughty games, and by extension put yourself out there in the public eye, you need to understand that things like this are going to happen to you.  There are going to be people who speak out against any kind of art, and if enough people know you, there are going to be people who don't like you.
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                     For one thing, plenty of people here do spend money on porn, I don't think that's a fair statement at all.  For another, an outburst like that doesn't make you look any better.  You're a dev, put your game face on.  I've seen a few devs around here openly talked trash about their projects to, and they usually come off as the nicest, most reasonable people.
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                     Say something like "The best thing about this corn-crusted turd is that it's over eventually," and they'll come back with something like "Glad you got some enjoyment out of it, thanks for the feedback!"  And we tend to like these people, even if we know they're probably pissed, and putting on a fake PR mask.
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                     And here, people aren't even really criticizing your work, they're bringing valid concerns to you attention.   Real talk, if you're going to blow up and come back with biting sarcasm when shit like this happens, especially when you're admittedly in the wrong (based on the changes you made to your patreon), you are not cut out to be a dev, because this shit is gonna happen to you all the time.  And I'm not speaking as a dev here, just as an artistic type, so maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but I feel actual devs would back me up here.
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                     Like, find a friend to vent to, geez.  Game devs get abused, that's a widely know fact in the industry; you knew what you were signing up for!
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                     Maybe that's a bad example, but the gist is where does it end, and how far does it go if you're allowed to keep getting away with it?
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                     tried the game... Although I'm not really a RPG player...
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                        Everyone with their own cup of thinking. Cheers~
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                        Okay seems we all getting too hyped about the topic......and clearly you take what people saying here in the negative way rather than take it as a criticism for better.
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                        Feel free to disregard what people talk about your game and the content of it but don't be surprised if later on you will meet with some real issues from wider public on the finished product if things stays as is......
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                        All things considered.......you still got deadline to meet so less reading here and focus on what you doing please?? Lets get to it again when you deliver the final product.....in due month.
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                        "Don't play the game, don't support the game if it offends your moral standard." - soooo....were you saying people who play and support your game don't have moral standard?? Somehow its funny really.....
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                     I'm just being frank. If people have moral problems with the game, they can pass on it. And I don't mean that with any malice. There's plenty of porn to go around. Just move on to the next and find what floats your boat. I understand the criticism, but I made a deliberate choice, and I'm sticking by it. I'm not exactly going to hire an artist for my free game lol. But yeah, try the updated version due on October 25th and let me know what you think. And I think I'll take up on that advice and stop reading these posts till the update.
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                        Aw, I like how you're encouraging him here, good on you.  Honestly, taking a look at that patreon, it probably wouldn't be an issue.  He'd probably have to make a significant amount of money for it to be worth taking any legal action, and it doesn't look like that'll happen soon.  Who knows though, this could be a hidden gem developed in record time that starts his erotic-game production career.
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                        No, that doesn't necessarily follow.  "If it offends your moral standard" means it might not offend someone's moral standard, not that they're immoral if it doesn't.  Nit-picking here, but if I'm not allowed to think pirating images on a pirating site is funny, you're not allowed to laugh at that.  XD
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                        Whoa, dude, take it easy.  Listen, if you want to develop naughty games, and by extension put yourself out there in the public eye, you need to understand that things like this are going to happen to you.  There are going to be people who speak out against any kind of art, and if enough people know you, there are going to be people who don't like you.
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                        Like, basically everyone with any significant number of views on youtube gets death threats.  Most of them don't lose any sleep over it, because the world is full of trolls, and people who legitimately want to kill you don't generally announce they're coming in advance.
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                        For one thing, plenty of people here do spend money on porn, I don't think that's a fair statement at all.  For another, an outburst like that doesn't make you look any better.  You're a dev, put your game face on.  I've seen a few devs around here openly talked trash about their projects to, and they usually come off as the nicest, most reasonable people.
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                        Say something like "The best thing about this corn-crusted turd is that it's over eventually," and they'll come back with something like "Glad you got some enjoyment out of it, thanks for the feedback!"  And we tend to like these people, even if we know they're probably pissed, and putting on a fake PR mask.
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                        And here, people aren't even really criticizing your work, they're bringing valid concerns to you attention.   Real talk, if you're going to blow up and come back with biting sarcasm when shit like this happens, especially when you're admittedly in the wrong (based on the changes you made to your patreon), you are not cut out to be a dev, because this shit is gonna happen to you all the time.  And I'm not speaking as a dev here, just as an artistic type, so maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but I feel actual devs would back me up here.
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                        Like, find a friend to vent to, geez.  Game devs get abused, that's a widely know fact in the industry; you knew what you were signing up for!
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                        And on your point about the assets not being used outside of their country, being wasted...  I mean, they're not wasted, they're used in Japanese games.  I dunno man, I feel like that's like saying it's okay to steal a penny.  It's just a penny, nobody is gonna use it anyway.  And then that line of logic makes a slippery slope, and you end up in Office Space.
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                        Maybe that's a bad example, but the gist is where does it end, and how far does it go if you're allowed to keep getting away with it?
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                     Thanks for the tip. I'm not trying to come across as a dick, but it looks I did. I suppose reading my post again, it does look like I may been overly sarcastic and defensive. It'd be nice to put on the PR mask, but I'm just going to be frank. I'm not a professional game dev. I'm making a free game as a hobby. People can shit all over the game for all I care, but the morality of the game existing at all is something that I felt needed to be addressed given the amount of concerns about it. And in this case, I think we're all just going to have to agree to disagree.
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                     Which is why, I keep saying, it's all good if people don't want to play it or support it (and it seems this came across like I'm being malicious? But really I just meant it in a conciliatory way to those offended). I don't have a single patreon supporter, but I still plan to finish and release the game in November. It will be free to play regardless of if people donate.
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                        It's really about marketing yourself.  You gotta sell yourself as a service.  The OP was trying to compare themselves with PirateBay which is a service and has ongoing cost for hosting which is what the donations are for.  But the OP has no ongoing cost such as a website which the donations are going towards.  The person has to sell their services to convince people that the use of the assets were in good faith and were not intended to be out of malicious intent.
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                     Well besides the few static images that I priated, I have to put in time and effort in designing an entire rpg. But I'm not trying to sell anything. It really is just if people enjoyed it, they can donate some change if they feel inclined to do so. Maybe I can break even on a percentage of the electricity I'm using making the game lol or buy myself a burger to maintain the energy to keep working. If not, oh well. This first game is getting released for sure regardless.
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                     Here's the thing, mate: This forum is absolutely flooded with 0.1 pre alphas with 2 pics and 3 words for a story. Each and every one of those game's developers promises the sky, the moon and a sane presidency within the half life of chromium-51.
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                     I'm just going to put this out there but before people get too excited they should realize most of the games on the site use stolen Daz assets. It's just much harder to catch well because noone knows for sure but if you think these barely english speaking devs who are releasing 0.1s are spending hundreds of dollars for licenses then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you
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                        I'm just going to put this out there but before people get too excited they should realize most of the games on the site use stolen Daz assets. It's just much harder to catch well because noone knows for sure but if you think these barely english speaking devs who are releasing 0.1s are spending hundreds of dollars for licenses then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you
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                        The only ones paying for art are usually the ones drawing their own or hitting someone up on Devianart to do original artwork.
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                        Dev your game looks pretty solid for a 0.1. Interested to see how it plays out.
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                     You talking about daz3d?  Thought most of their stuff was for sell for others to use. That or unless someone was pirating their 3d models and etc.  If they are, OP can find some nice models to use in their game.  Saw a nice closet slut waiting to be lewded.
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                        Okay, after reading all these similar posts, I suppose I should address this... concern(?)
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                     Two points: first, I primarily objected to your patreon declaring you were non-profit, and then to you saying that you were non-commercial in your first reply. You are neither of those things. If you want to ask for money, fine; if you want to say your game is free and the patreon supporters won't get perks, fine; but don't pretend you're a charity, mate.
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                     The only other issue I would raise is the fact that you are admitting to stealing and receiving money for stolen work, and using this site as your primary means of publicity and distribution, if someone did want to take you down for your theft, you can be sure they would come here too.
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                     No, no,  that's not the part that made you sound like a dick.  You sounded like a dick when you got all indignant with your "robin-hood of porn" and your generalizing everyone as "hav(ing) never spent a dime on any porn. . . ." and "High horse cock stroking. . . ." comments, and got into your diatribe about piratebay and moral indignation.
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                     I understand if you were angry, but if this really is just a hobby, and you're really not in it for the money, and people really are totally wrong here... fuck 'em.  It's just a hobby, it's not worth getting upset over.
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                        if you not producing your own CG its better be to not use any CG at all (better than using stolen asset)
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                     You can find art available from E-Hentai and most of the art is freely distributed and by some very well known/liked artists. If there's any question as to if the artist disapproves of his or her work being freely available they expunge the gallery. I would agree you would be better finding a cg artist (unless the dev is an artist) to complete the game with its own uniform artwork!
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                     Hey Moonfacegames i realy like the game so far i can't wait too see the next update
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                     - I have a solution that should solve any issues. How about including a "artcredits.txt" file to credit the art used in the game and/or include an "art credits" in the game's start menu? They click on the "art credits" and you can show a screen crediting and thanking the artists for the artwork used. You could even say "it's so good I had to use it.
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                        - I have a solution that should solve any issues. How about including a "artcredits.txt" file to credit the art used in the game and/or include an "art credits" in the game's start menu? They click on the "art credits" and you can show a screen crediting and thanking the artists for the artwork used. You could even say "it's so good I had to use it.
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                        This way, if Re-4Andrew is correct and the art is freely given, those artists will see the credits and a spike in traffic and thank you for it.
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                     Good idea. I'll add both in the next update. The credits in the current version are at the end of the current update. Yeah, hopefully the game can promote their work and cause spike in traffic for them!
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                        You can find art available from E-Hentai and most of the art is freely distributed and by some very well known/liked artists. If there's any question as to if the artist disapproves of his or her work being freely available they expunge the gallery. I would agree you would be better finding a cg artist (unless the dev is an artist) to complete the game with its own uniform artwork!
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                        i found a bug in the 0.7 version when you get to the npc in the  imige you get stuck on the 11 in chat and cant get past it
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                     can't wait to play it
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                     its been a while since a games story has truly gotten me invested (AAA games included) but i have found 3 on here that have and your game is one of them. great work.
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                        just wondering but did you ever think of adding a quest log? not complaining was just wondering what makes a dev chose to add one or not. and thanks for that info on the orb didn't know that XD
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                     Since it's a linear game, I didn't think it was necessary. My next game, I'm planning on adding it, as it'll be more open world.
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                        can't wait to play it
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                        its been a while since a games story has truly gotten me invested (AAA games included) but i have found 3 on here that have and your game is one of them. great work.
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                     Thanks. I'm truly flattered to hear such praise. Hope you enjoy it! The final version is up.
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                        Since it's a linear game, I didn't think it was necessary. My next game, I'm planning on adding it, as it'll be more open world.
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                     downloading now  and just red the note you put, you plan on bringing anymore updates for this game or no ?
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                        just finished it. I for sure could go for a sequel lol
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                            she could get her wings back and still chose to stay with you in it
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                        Just a suggestion, we need a scenes gallery. Talk to the guys who made Harem and Harem Collector, they were able to easily program one. Also, this was a slog at times. Unless you really stock up on the meds, you will find yourself losing and then having to restart because you saved somewhere where you can't buy new items.
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                        I too have reached the underground labyrinth and am not inclined to comb the damn place while deciphering what I'm even supposed to really do there.
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                     That's a relief to hear. I had already tried half of the entrances and then resorted to killing the demons in a bid to see if that did anything.
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                     Good thing I'm a compulsive saver and I foresaw such an event likely occurring. Thanks for the tip, Moon. I'll keep searching.
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                        its been a while since a games story has truly gotten me invested (AAA games included) but i have found 3 on here that have and your game is one of them. great work.
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