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                     There are a lot of them out there and it seems to be popular with even a whole website dedicated to it. For me, the psychological state of the characters are pretty important in adult media. M&gt;F transformation which is usually done involuntarily through supernatural means, makes it gay content to me and I cant enjoy it. I absolutely respect all fetishes and gender identity so please dont take offense.
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                     I guess I just wanted to hear about the reason people like this tag. There would obviously be the gender fluent people that would enjoy it, but there is probably a bigger audience than just them. I guess it might have similar appeal as futa. As was explained to me, futa's appeal is that we like sexy females and we like dicks to fuck sexy females, so its the best of both worlds. I can see how that could be. But TF games that places a male psyche into a female body seems to not be quite the same.
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                     It's hard to know how many game feature it just to justify being of TFgamessite.
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                     Now many people enjoy the idea of power games, it's a bit different to force a man to do something degrading vs a woman. It's not gay content per se, you don't have gay men fucking other gay men usually. It's like straight men fucking boys because they like the idea of dominating another man.
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                     I'm always sorta envious of folks who understand their own sex fetishes to the point that they can elucidate what they like about them to others. To my mind, the only real answer to a question like this one is "transformation fetishists." Anything beyond that is guesswork, unless it comes from the mouth of someone who has done serious introspection to decide just what it is about transformation that makes it their thing. It wouldn't, for me, be a selling point for a game; it's more of a part of the framing narrative. Then again, I mostly ignore story in porn games, so unless it was annoyingly intrusive (like some Quantum Vagina Leap thing where the gender transformed character is drawn/rendered as a guy but everyone treats her like a woman during sex--no I don't know how it would work either shut up) it probably wouldn't matter much to me one way or another.
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                     I can take it or leave it. It isn't a fetish I have, but it also isn't something that turns me off on it's own. I feel I'd tend to like it more in a comedy context than the more frequent corruption/domination setup that is most common. In the hands of a decent writer there can be a lot of funny and sexy stuff that goes on in a transformation scenario that I could see myself enjoying.
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                     There is probably some deep philosophical discussion to be had here on what defines a man or woman.  There's a contingent of people who feel like they are in the wrong bodies in the real world right now.  I can't really speak to any of that, but I don't know that it's a major factor when it comes to fiction anyway.  While transformation stories aren't something I seek out, it doesn't really bother me that much, so I'll try to dig into my thoughts on it personally.
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                     I think there's some overlap with people who can enjoy a female protagonist game.  There's a degree to which you already put yourself in the shoes of the female character when you play a game like that.  Having a transformation element in the game just makes it part of the story.  I think the basic concept is what if a woman had the sex drive of a man.  Some might argue there are already women with stronger sex drives than some men, but that's beside the point.  The basic math is men = horny, women = sexy; man brain -&gt; woman body = horny and sexy.  Often the transformed character is put into situations against their will.  This follows most female corruption games where things are done
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                     I think at this point it helps to be able to separate clearly in your mind having a fictional character do things and doing them yourself.  I don't think having a female character choosing to fuck a man in a game is gay.  I don't think it's gay even if that female started as male.  At that point in the game, the character is a woman to me and the character is also not myself.  The end result is still a man and woman having sex regardless of the particulars.  Now if the game felt the need to show the woman was still a man visually, by doing something like body swapping during the sex scene, that would start getting gay pretty quick.  Why? Because now it's two men having sex.  It was two men having sex before you might say, but visually, it wasn't.
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                     I generally don't like it but I can overlook it if all sex scenes are only with female NPCs.  The game would have to sound especially good for me to overlook the transformation aspect though because normally I wouldn't bother trying it with that tag unless it was fairly clear that any transformations were entirely optional.
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