<!DOCTYPE html>
<html class="has-no-js template-thread_view uix_page--fixed uix_hasSectionLinks uix_hasCrumbs uix_hasPageAction" data-app="public" data-container-key="node-73" data-content-key="thread-19464" data-cookie-prefix="xf_" data-csrf="" data-logged-in="true" data-template="thread_view" dir="LTR" id="XF" lang="en-US" style="font-size: 62.5%;">
 <head>
  <meta charset="utf-8"/>
  <meta content="IE=Edge" http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible"/>
  <meta content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1, viewport-fit=cover" name="viewport"/>
  <meta content="noarchive" name="robots"/>
  <meta content="default-src 'self' https://*.f95zone.com https://f95zone.com https://*.f95zone.to https://f95zone.to; script-src 'self' 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' https://*.f95zone.com https://f95zone.com https://*.f95zone.to https://f95zone.to https://cdn.jsdelivr.net https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com https://www.google.com https://www.gstatic.com https://www.googletagmanager.com https://www.google-analytics.com; img-src 'self' data: blob: https://*.f95zone.com https://f95zone.com https://*.f95zone.to https://f95zone.to https://external-content.duckduckgo.com https://www.google-analytics.com https://www.googletagmanager.com https://www.google.com https://www.google.ad https://www.google.ae https://www.google.com.af https://www.google.com.ag https://www.google.com.ai https://www.google.al https://www.google.am https://www.google.co.ao https://www.google.com.ar https://www.google.as https://www.google.at https://www.google.com.au https://www.google.az https://www.google.ba https://www.google.com.bd https://www.google.be https://www.google.bf https://www.google.bg https://www.google.com.bh https://www.google.bi https://www.google.bj https://www.google.com.bn https://www.google.com.bo https://www.google.com.br https://www.google.bs https://www.google.bt https://www.google.co.bw https://www.google.by https://www.google.com.bz https://www.google.ca https://www.google.cd https://www.google.cf https://www.google.cg https://www.google.ch https://www.google.ci https://www.google.co.ck https://www.google.cl https://www.google.cm https://www.google.cn https://www.google.com.co https://www.google.co.cr https://www.google.com.cu https://www.google.cv https://www.google.com.cy https://www.google.cz https://www.google.de https://www.google.dj https://www.google.dk https://www.google.dm https://www.google.com.do https://www.google.dz https://www.google.com.ec https://www.google.ee https://www.google.com.eg https://www.google.es https://www.google.com.et https://www.google.fi https://www.google.com.fj https://www.google.fm https://www.google.fr https://www.google.ga https://www.google.ge https://www.google.gg https://www.google.com.gh https://www.google.com.gi https://www.google.gl https://www.google.gm https://www.google.gr https://www.google.com.gt https://www.google.gy https://www.google.com.hk https://www.google.hn https://www.google.hr https://www.google.ht https://www.google.hu https://www.google.co.id https://www.google.ie https://www.google.co.il https://www.google.im https://www.google.co.in https://www.google.iq https://www.google.is https://www.google.it https://www.google.je https://www.google.com.jm https://www.google.jo https://www.google.co.jp https://www.google.co.ke https://www.google.com.kh https://www.google.ki https://www.google.kg https://www.google.co.kr https://www.google.com.kw https://www.google.kz https://www.google.la https://www.google.com.lb https://www.google.li https://www.google.lk https://www.google.co.ls https://www.google.lt https://www.google.lu https://www.google.lv https://www.google.com.ly https://www.google.co.ma https://www.google.md https://www.google.me https://www.google.mg https://www.google.mk https://www.google.ml https://www.google.com.mm https://www.google.mn https://www.google.ms https://www.google.com.mt https://www.google.mu https://www.google.mv https://www.google.mw https://www.google.com.mx https://www.google.com.my https://www.google.co.mz https://www.google.com.na https://www.google.com.ng https://www.google.com.ni https://www.google.ne https://www.google.nl https://www.google.no https://www.google.com.np https://www.google.nr https://www.google.nu https://www.google.co.nz https://www.google.com.om https://www.google.com.pa https://www.google.com.pe https://www.google.com.pg https://www.google.com.ph https://www.google.com.pk https://www.google.pl https://www.google.pn https://www.google.com.pr https://www.google.ps https://www.google.pt https://www.google.com.py https://www.google.com.qa https://www.google.ro https://www.google.ru https://www.google.rw https://www.google.com.sa https://www.google.com.sb https://www.google.sc https://www.google.se https://www.google.com.sg https://www.google.sh https://www.google.si https://www.google.sk https://www.google.com.sl https://www.google.sn https://www.google.so https://www.google.sm https://www.google.sr https://www.google.st https://www.google.com.sv https://www.google.td https://www.google.tg https://www.google.co.th https://www.google.com.tj https://www.google.tl https://www.google.tm https://www.google.tn https://www.google.to https://www.google.com.tr https://www.google.tt https://www.google.com.tw https://www.google.co.tz https://www.google.com.ua https://www.google.co.ug https://www.google.co.uk https://www.google.com.uy https://www.google.co.uz https://www.google.com.vc https://www.google.co.ve https://www.google.vg https://www.google.co.vi https://www.google.com.vn https://www.google.vu https://www.google.ws https://www.google.rs https://www.google.co.za https://www.google.co.zm https://www.google.co.zw https://www.google.cat https://stats.g.doubleclick.net https://*.giphy.com https://*.gfycat.com https://media.tenor.com https://*.redgifs.com/ https://*.sendvid.com https://*.gifdeliverynetwork.com https://*.media.tumblr.com https://*.imgur.com https://*.patreonusercontent.com https://cdn.discordapp.com https://media.discordapp.net https://i.redd.it https://*.imgbox.com https://i.gyazo.com https://secure.gravatar.com https://cdn.betterttv.net https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net https://*.photobucket.com https://*.deviantart.net https://*.pixhost.to https://puu.sh https://*.postimg.org https://*.kym-cdn.com https://i.ytimg.com; style-src 'unsafe-inline' https: data:; font-src https: data:; connect-src 'self' https:; frame-src https: data:; form-action 'self' https://discord.com https://*.f95.io; upgrade-insecure-requests; block-all-mixed-content;" http-equiv="Content-Security-Policy"/>
  <title>
   New but old | F95zone
  </title>
  <meta content="Many, many moons back I sold a computer program, a game where you would train and race horses. That was in the 80's, I think, it was so long ago now. I..." name="description"/>
  <meta content="Many, many moons back I sold a computer program, a game where you would train and race horses. That was in the 80's, I think, it was so long ago now. I learned to program on my Sinclair spectrum in an evening, moved onto my Amstrad over the next year and wrote many more programs. I sold another..." property="og:description"/>
  <meta content="Many, many moons back I sold a computer program, a game where you would train and race horses. That was in the 80's, I think, it was so long ago now. I learned to program on my Sinclair spectrum..." property="twitter:description"/>
  <meta content="https://f95zone.to/threads/new-but-old.19464/" property="og:url"/>
  <meta content="F95zone" property="og:site_name"/>
  <meta content="website" property="og:type"/>
  <meta content="New but old" property="og:title"/>
  <meta content="New but old" property="twitter:title"/>
  <meta content="https://f95zone.to/assets/favicon-32x32.png" property="og:image"/>
  <meta content="https://f95zone.to/assets/favicon-32x32.png" property="twitter:image"/>
  <meta content="summary" property="twitter:card"/>
  <meta content="#181a1d" name="theme-color"/>
  <meta content="#181a1d" name="msapplication-TileColor"/>
  <meta content="ok_5603d60c9ec3f9189a2c7da22c2173e2" name="lb-check"/>
  <meta content="same-origin" name="referrer"/>
  <meta content="yes" name="apple-mobile-web-app-capable"/>
 </head>
 <body data-template="thread_view">
  <style>
   .uix_headerContainer .p-navSticky.is-sticky {
		top: 0 !important;
	}

	

	
	

	
	
	
		
			
			
				
			
		
	

	

	

		
		
		.uix_mainTabBar {top: 90px !important;}
		.uix_stickyBodyElement:not(.offCanvasMenu) {
			top: 110px !important;
			min-height: calc(100vh - 110px) !important;
		}
		.uix_sidebarInner .uix_sidebar--scroller {margin-top: 110px;}
		.uix_sidebarInner {margin-top: -110px;}
		.p-body-sideNavInner .uix_sidebar--scroller {margin-top: 110px;}
		.p-body-sideNavInner {margin-top: -110px;}
		.uix_stickyCategoryStrips {top: 110px !important;}
		#XF .u-anchorTarget {
			height: 110px;
			margin-top: -110px;
		}
	
		

		
			@media (max-width: 900px) {
		
				.p-sectionLinks {display: none;}

				

				.uix_mainTabBar {top: 50px !important;}
				.uix_stickyBodyElement:not(.offCanvasMenu) {
					top: 70px !important;
					min-height: calc(100vh - 70px) !important;
				}
				.uix_sidebarInner .uix_sidebar--scroller {margin-top: 70px;}
				.uix_sidebarInner {margin-top: -70px;}
				.p-body-sideNavInner .uix_sidebar--scroller {margin-top: 70px;}
				.p-body-sideNavInner {margin-top: -70px;}
				.uix_stickyCategoryStrips {top: 70px !important;}
				#XF .u-anchorTarget {
					height: 70px;
					margin-top: -70px;
				}

				
		
			}
		
	

	.uix_sidebarNav .uix_sidebar--scroller {max-height: calc(100vh - 70px);}
  </style>
  <div id="jumpToTop">
  </div>
  <div class="uix_pageWrapper--fixed">
   <div class="p-pageWrapper" id="top">
    <div class="p-body">
     <div class="p-body-inner">
      <!--XF:EXTRA_OUTPUT-->
      <noscript>
       <div class="blockMessage blockMessage--important blockMessage--iconic u-noJsOnly">
        JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
       </div>
      </noscript>
      <!--[if lt IE 9]><div class="blockMessage blockMessage&#45;&#45;important blockMessage&#45;&#45;iconic">You are using an out of date browser. It  may not display this or other websites correctly.<br />You should upgrade or use an <a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/" target="_blank">alternative browser</a>.</div><![endif]-->
      <div class="uix_contentWrapper" uix_component="MainContainer">
       <div class="p-body-main">
        <div class="p-body-content" uix_component="MainContent">
         <!-- ABOVE MAIN CONTENT -->
         <div class="breadcrumb block">
          <div class="pageContent">
           <ul class="p-breadcrumbs" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/BreadcrumbList">
            <li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
             <a href="/" itemprop="item">
              <span itemprop="name">
               Forums
              </span>
             </a>
             <meta content="1" itemprop="position"/>
            </li>
            <li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
             <a href="/categories/development.72/" itemprop="item">
              <span itemprop="name">
               Development
              </span>
             </a>
             <meta content="2" itemprop="position"/>
            </li>
            <li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
             <a href="/forums/programming-development-art.73/" itemprop="item">
              <span itemprop="name">
               Programming, Development &amp; Art
              </span>
             </a>
             <meta content="3" itemprop="position"/>
            </li>
           </ul>
          </div>
         </div>
         <div class="samBannerUnit samAlignCenter samCustomSize" data-position="container_breadcrumb_top_below" style="width: 728px; height: 90px;">
          <div class="samItem">
           <iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen" frameborder="0" src="https://candy.engine.adglare.net/?496266440&amp;iframe&amp;sizes=728x90&amp;ag_custom_vlmcp=d1ca4cff-9d71-4fc8-b2eb-041dac16559a&amp;ag_custom_vlmspot=leaderboard_header" style="width:728px; height:90px;">
           </iframe>
          </div>
         </div>
         <div class="p-body-header" style=" ">
          <div class="pageContent">
           <div class="uix_headerInner">
            <div class="p-title">
             <h1 class="p-title-value">
              New but old
             </h1>
            </div>
            <div class="p-description">
             <ul class="listInline listInline--bullet">
              <li>
               <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-user" title="Thread starter">
               </i>
               <span class="u-srOnly">
                Thread starter
               </span>
               <a class="username u-concealed" data-user-id="926850" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/billieb.926850/">
                Billieb
               </a>
              </li>
              <li>
               <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-clock" title="Start date">
               </i>
               <span class="u-srOnly">
                Start date
               </span>
               <a class="u-concealed" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/">
                <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Oct 18, 2018" data-time="1539872633" data-time-string="10:23 PM" datetime="2018-10-18T22:23:53+0800" dir="auto" title="Oct 18, 2018 at 10:23 PM">
                 Oct 18, 2018
                </time>
               </a>
              </li>
             </ul>
            </div>
           </div>
           <div class="uix_headerInner--opposite">
            <div class="p-title-pageAction">
             <select class="br-select input" data-deselectable="false" data-initial-rating="0" data-rating-href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/br-rate" data-readonly="false" data-show-selected="true" data-vote-content='&lt;div data-href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/br-user-rated" data-xf-click="overlay" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Members who rated this thread"&gt;0 Votes&lt;/div&gt;' data-widget-class="bratr-rating" data-xf-init="rating" name="rating">
              <option value="">
              </option>
              <option value="1">
               Terrible
              </option>
              <option value="2">
               Poor
              </option>
              <option value="3">
               Average
              </option>
              <option value="4">
               Good
              </option>
              <option value="5">
               Excellent
              </option>
             </select>
            </div>
           </div>
          </div>
         </div>
         <div class="p-body-pageContent">
          <div class="block block--messages" data-href="/inline-mod/" data-type="post" data-xf-init="">
           <div class="block-outer">
            <div class="block-outer-opposite">
             <div class="buttonGroup">
              <a class="button--link button" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/account/dpp-update?content_type=thread&amp;content_id=19464">
               <span class="button-text">
                Showing 100 posts per page
               </span>
              </a>
              <a class="tic--button button button--link" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/tic-ignore/ignore?content_type=thread&amp;content_id=19464">
               Ignore thread
              </a>
              <a class="button--link button" data-sk-unwatch="Unwatch" data-sk-watch="Watch" data-xf-click="switch-overlay" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/watch">
               <span class="button-text">
                Watch
               </span>
              </a>
             </div>
            </div>
           </div>
           <div class="block-outer js-threadStatusField">
           </div>
           <div class="block-container lbContainer" data-lb-id="thread-19464" data-lb-universal="0" data-message-selector=".js-post" data-xf-init="lightbox select-to-quote">
            <div class="block-body js-replyNewMessageContainer">
             <article class="message message-threadStarterPost message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer" data-author="Billieb" data-content="post-1197289" id="js-post-1197289">
              <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1197289">
              </span>
              <div class="message-inner">
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--user">
                <section class="message-user userExtra--expand" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/Person">
                 <div class="message-avatar">
                  <div class="message-avatar-wrapper">
                   <a class="avatar avatar--m avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="926850" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/billieb.926850/" style="background-color: #ef6c00; color: #ffd180">
                    <span class="avatar-u926850-m">
                     B
                    </span>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="uix_messagePostBitWrapper">
                  <div class="message-userDetails">
                   <h4 class="message-name">
                    <a class="username" data-user-id="926850" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/billieb.926850/" itemprop="name">
                     Billieb
                    </a>
                   </h4>
                   <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    New Member
                   </h5>
                   <div class="userBanner message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    <span class="userBanner-before">
                    </span>
                    <strong>
                    </strong>
                    <span class="userBanner-after">
                    </span>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="message-userExtras">
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Joined">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-user uix_icon uix_icon--user">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     Oct 4, 2018
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Messages">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-comments uix_icon uix_icon--messages">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     6
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Likes">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-thumbs-up uix_icon uix_icon--like">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     1
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <span class="message-userArrow">
                 </span>
                </section>
               </div>
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--main">
                <div class="message-main uix_messageContent js-quickEditTarget">
                 <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split">
                  <div class="message-attribution-main">
                   <a class="u-concealed" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197289" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Oct 18, 2018" data-time="1539872633" data-time-string="10:23 PM" datetime="2018-10-18T22:23:53+0800" dir="auto" title="Oct 18, 2018 at 10:23 PM">
                     Oct 18, 2018
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                  <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list">
                   <li>
                    <a data-href="/posts/1197289/share" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197289" rel="nofollow">
                     <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-share-alt uix_icon uix_icon--share">
                     </i>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a class="bookmarkLink bookmarkLink--highlightable" data-label=".js-bookmarkText" data-sk-bookmarked="addClass:is-bookmarked, Edit bookmark" data-sk-bookmarkremoved="removeClass:is-bookmarked, Add bookmark" data-xf-click="bookmark-click" href="/posts/1197289/bookmark" title="Bookmark">
                     <span class="js-bookmarkText u-srOnly">
                      Add bookmark
                     </span>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197289" rel="nofollow">
                     #1
                    </a>
                   </li>
                  </ul>
                 </header>
                 <div class="message-content js-messageContent">
                  <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer" data-lb-caption-desc="Billieb · Oct 18, 2018 at 10:23 PM" data-lb-id="post-1197289">
                   <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote">
                    <div class="bbWrapper">
                     Many, many moons back I sold a computer program, a game where you would train and race horses. That was in the 80's, I think, it was so long ago now. I learned to program on my Sinclair spectrum in an evening, moved onto my Amstrad over the next year and wrote many more programs. I sold another two games to developers, both crap. I decided to make a program under the windows platform, learn c++ and such like. I started but life is just too short. As you can guess I am old, I mean very old, but I want to write a game now..an adult game, I kinda think I have the stories to tell.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     So, as I talk too much let me cut to the chase. Where do I start,  Maybe a suggestion for some free software to learn concepts, tutorials and such like. I watched a game 'Dating my daughter'. Is that a mixture of programmes or all built under one piece of software. I have been looking at Daz3d, is that any good? thanks in advance for any help or signposts to where I need to be. Kindest regards.
                    </div>
                    <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">
                    </div>
                   </article>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList">
                 </div>
                 <footer class="message-footer">
                  <div class="message-actionBar actionBar">
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external">
                    <a class="reaction reaction--small actionBar-action actionBar-action--reaction reaction--imageHidden reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1" data-reaction-list="&lt; .js-post | .js-reactionsList" data-th-react-plus-content-id="1197289" data-th-react-plus-content-type="post" data-xf-init="reaction" href="/posts/1197289/react?reaction_id=1">
                     <i aria-hidden="true">
                     </i>
                     <img alt="Like" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" title="Like"/>
                     <span class="reaction-text js-reactionText">
                      <bdi>
                       Like
                      </bdi>
                     </span>
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--mq u-jsOnly js-multiQuote" data-message-id="1197289" data-mq-action="add" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1197289" title="Toggle multi-quote">
                     Quote
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" data-quote-href="/posts/1197289/quote" data-xf-click="quote" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1197289" title="Reply, quoting this message">
                     Reply
                    </a>
                   </div>
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--internal">
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--report" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/posts/1197289/report">
                     Report
                    </a>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href">
                  </div>
                 </footer>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
             </article>
             <div class="samBannerUnit samAlignCenter" data-position="post_below_container_1">
              <div class="samItem">
               <iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen" frameborder="0" src="https://candy.engine.adglare.net/?711900550&amp;iframe&amp;sizes=728x90&amp;ag_custom_vlmcp=11d8884a-c204-4705-8dc5-d17be23ed7bf&amp;ag_custom_vlmspot=leaderboard_posts" style="width:728px; height:90px;">
               </iframe>
              </div>
             </div>
             <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer" data-author="Cohibozz" data-content="post-1197736" id="js-post-1197736">
              <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1197736">
              </span>
              <div class="message-inner">
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--user">
                <section class="message-user userExtra--expand" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/Person">
                 <div class="message-avatar">
                  <div class="message-avatar-wrapper">
                   <a class="avatar avatar--m avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="820040" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/cohibozz.820040/" style="background-color: #2e7d32; color: #b9f6ca">
                    <span class="avatar-u820040-m">
                     C
                    </span>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="uix_messagePostBitWrapper">
                  <div class="message-userDetails">
                   <h4 class="message-name">
                    <a class="username" data-user-id="820040" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/cohibozz.820040/" itemprop="name">
                     Cohibozz
                    </a>
                   </h4>
                   <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    Member
                   </h5>
                   <div class="userBanner message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    <span class="userBanner-before">
                    </span>
                    <strong>
                    </strong>
                    <span class="userBanner-after">
                    </span>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="message-userExtras">
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Joined">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-user uix_icon uix_icon--user">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     Aug 14, 2018
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Messages">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-comments uix_icon uix_icon--messages">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     126
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Likes">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-thumbs-up uix_icon uix_icon--like">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     27
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <span class="message-userArrow">
                 </span>
                </section>
               </div>
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--main">
                <div class="message-main uix_messageContent js-quickEditTarget">
                 <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split">
                  <div class="message-attribution-main">
                   <a class="u-concealed" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197736" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Oct 19, 2018" data-time="1539882143" data-time-string="1:02 AM" datetime="2018-10-19T01:02:23+0800" dir="auto" title="Oct 19, 2018 at 1:02 AM">
                     Oct 19, 2018
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                  <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list">
                   <li>
                    <a data-href="/posts/1197736/share" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197736" rel="nofollow">
                     <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-share-alt uix_icon uix_icon--share">
                     </i>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a class="bookmarkLink bookmarkLink--highlightable" data-label=".js-bookmarkText" data-sk-bookmarked="addClass:is-bookmarked, Edit bookmark" data-sk-bookmarkremoved="removeClass:is-bookmarked, Add bookmark" data-xf-click="bookmark-click" href="/posts/1197736/bookmark" title="Bookmark">
                     <span class="js-bookmarkText u-srOnly">
                      Add bookmark
                     </span>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197736" rel="nofollow">
                     #2
                    </a>
                   </li>
                  </ul>
                 </header>
                 <div class="message-content js-messageContent">
                  <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer" data-lb-caption-desc="Cohibozz · Oct 19, 2018 at 1:02 AM" data-lb-id="post-1197736">
                   <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote">
                    <div class="bbWrapper">
                     for VN game i think the best start is renpy and daz3d. if u want u can use also unity or other engine but i think if u have some skills in programming like c++ with renpy u can start early to produce.
                     <br/>
                     i'm doing my game now and i've started as u form 0. i'm studying daz3d anr renpy and building mt game with help of guys in this forum (awesome).
                    </div>
                    <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">
                    </div>
                   </article>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList">
                 </div>
                 <footer class="message-footer">
                  <div class="message-actionBar actionBar">
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external">
                    <a class="reaction reaction--small actionBar-action actionBar-action--reaction reaction--imageHidden reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1" data-reaction-list="&lt; .js-post | .js-reactionsList" data-th-react-plus-content-id="1197736" data-th-react-plus-content-type="post" data-xf-init="reaction" href="/posts/1197736/react?reaction_id=1">
                     <i aria-hidden="true">
                     </i>
                     <img alt="Like" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" title="Like"/>
                     <span class="reaction-text js-reactionText">
                      <bdi>
                       Like
                      </bdi>
                     </span>
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--mq u-jsOnly js-multiQuote" data-message-id="1197736" data-mq-action="add" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1197736" title="Toggle multi-quote">
                     Quote
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" data-quote-href="/posts/1197736/quote" data-xf-click="quote" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1197736" title="Reply, quoting this message">
                     Reply
                    </a>
                   </div>
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--internal">
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--report" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/posts/1197736/report">
                     Report
                    </a>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href">
                  </div>
                 </footer>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
             </article>
             <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer" data-author="anne O'nymous" data-content="post-1197747" id="js-post-1197747">
              <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1197747">
              </span>
              <div class="message-inner">
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--user">
                <section class="message-user userExtra--expand" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/Person">
                 <div class="message-avatar">
                  <div class="message-avatar-wrapper">
                   <a class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="63812" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/anne-onymous.63812/">
                    <img alt="anne O'nymous" class="avatar-u63812-m" itemprop="image" src="/data/avatars/m/63/63812.jpg?1507736890" srcset="/data/avatars/l/63/63812.jpg?1507736890 2x"/>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="uix_messagePostBitWrapper">
                  <div class="message-userDetails">
                   <h4 class="message-name">
                    <a class="username" data-user-id="63812" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/anne-onymous.63812/" itemprop="name">
                     <span class="username--style15">
                      anne O'nymous
                     </span>
                    </a>
                   </h4>
                   <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    I'm not grumpy, I'm just coded that way.
                   </h5>
                   <div class="userBanner userBanner userBanner--green message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    <span class="userBanner-before">
                    </span>
                    <strong>
                     Modder
                    </strong>
                    <span class="userBanner-after">
                    </span>
                   </div>
                   <div class="userBanner .userBanner Donor message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    <span class="userBanner-before">
                    </span>
                    <strong>
                     Donor
                     <i class="fa fa-coffee">
                     </i>
                    </strong>
                    <span class="userBanner-after">
                    </span>
                   </div>
                   <div class="userBanner userBanner userBanner--orange message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    <span class="userBanner-before">
                    </span>
                    <strong>
                     Respected User
                    </strong>
                    <span class="userBanner-after">
                    </span>
                   </div>
                   <div class="userBanner message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    <span class="userBanner-before">
                    </span>
                    <strong>
                    </strong>
                    <span class="userBanner-after">
                    </span>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="message-userExtras">
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Joined">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-user uix_icon uix_icon--user">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     Jun 11, 2017
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Messages">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-comments uix_icon uix_icon--messages">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     10,727
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Likes">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-thumbs-up uix_icon uix_icon--like">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     15,771
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <span class="message-userArrow">
                 </span>
                </section>
               </div>
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--main">
                <div class="message-main uix_messageContent js-quickEditTarget">
                 <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split">
                  <div class="message-attribution-main">
                   <a class="u-concealed" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197747" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Oct 19, 2018" data-time="1539882213" data-time-string="1:03 AM" datetime="2018-10-19T01:03:33+0800" dir="auto" title="Oct 19, 2018 at 1:03 AM">
                     Oct 19, 2018
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                  <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list">
                   <li>
                    <a data-href="/posts/1197747/share" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197747" rel="nofollow">
                     <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-share-alt uix_icon uix_icon--share">
                     </i>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a class="bookmarkLink bookmarkLink--highlightable" data-label=".js-bookmarkText" data-sk-bookmarked="addClass:is-bookmarked, Edit bookmark" data-sk-bookmarkremoved="removeClass:is-bookmarked, Add bookmark" data-xf-click="bookmark-click" href="/posts/1197747/bookmark" title="Bookmark">
                     <span class="js-bookmarkText u-srOnly">
                      Add bookmark
                     </span>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197747" rel="nofollow">
                     #3
                    </a>
                   </li>
                  </ul>
                 </header>
                 <div class="message-content js-messageContent">
                  <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer" data-lb-caption-desc="anne O'nymous · Oct 19, 2018 at 1:03 AM" data-lb-id="post-1197747">
                   <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote">
                    <div class="bbWrapper">
                     <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote">
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-title">
                       <a class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-content-selector="#post-1197289" data-xf-click="attribution" href="/goto/post?id=1197289">
                        Billieb said:
                       </a>
                      </div>
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-content">
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent">
                        As you can guess I am old, I mean very old,
                       </div>
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink">
                        <a>
                         Click to expand...
                        </a>
                       </div>
                      </div>
                     </blockquote>
                     As I can guess, you're around my age, and I'm not the oldest here. So, please, remove this "very old".
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote">
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-title">
                       <a class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-content-selector="#post-1197289" data-xf-click="attribution" href="/goto/post?id=1197289">
                        Billieb said:
                       </a>
                      </div>
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-content">
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent">
                        Where do I start,
                       </div>
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink">
                        <a>
                         Click to expand...
                        </a>
                       </div>
                      </div>
                     </blockquote>
                     Well, it depend of what you want to do and how you want to do it. It also depend of your effective knowledge. You talked about what you knew 25/30 years ago, but not about what you know now. Because of your comment about DmD (which is a basic script program) I assume that you didn't really stayed in touch with coding.
                     <br/>
                     You mentioned C++, so Unity can be an option. It use C#, so you'll need some updates, but less than if you hadn't a single clue about how C works and what POO mean. You can also look for Ren'py. It's not a bad start if effectively you're rusty and not really aware of moderns paradigms.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote">
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-title">
                       <a class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-content-selector="#post-1197289" data-xf-click="attribution" href="/goto/post?id=1197289">
                        Billieb said:
                       </a>
                      </div>
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-content">
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent">
                        Maybe a suggestion for some free software to learn concepts, tutorials and such like.
                       </div>
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink">
                        <a>
                         Click to expand...
                        </a>
                       </div>
                      </div>
                     </blockquote>
                     In this case,
                     <a class="link link--external" href="https://f95zone.com/threads/the-blue-guide-2018-09-14.1636/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">
                      the Bloo guide
                     </a>
                     is the place where your journey start.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote">
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-title">
                       <a class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-content-selector="#post-1197289" data-xf-click="attribution" href="/goto/post?id=1197289">
                        Billieb said:
                       </a>
                      </div>
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-content">
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent">
                        I watched a game 'Dating my daughter'. Is that a mixture of programmes or all built under one piece of software.
                       </div>
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink">
                        <a>
                         Click to expand...
                        </a>
                       </div>
                      </div>
                     </blockquote>
                     DmD use Ren'py, a free engine wrote in Python and mixing Python and its own script language. It's actually the most used engine, partly because even someone with no coding knowledge can achieve to use it with more or less success. In the same time, the engine is way more powerful than it look (a Ferrari hidden behind a Beetle). So once you retrieve your old habits, you can go further without changing the engine.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote">
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-title">
                       <a class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-content-selector="#post-1197289" data-xf-click="attribution" href="/goto/post?id=1197289">
                        Billieb said:
                       </a>
                      </div>
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-content">
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent">
                        I have been looking at Daz3d, is that any good?
                       </div>
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink">
                        <a>
                         Click to expand...
                        </a>
                       </div>
                      </div>
                     </blockquote>
                     It's probably the better compromise between power and easy use, when it come to rendering 3D scene. But it's not the only option available. Here again, the Bloo guide is the place were to start.
                    </div>
                    <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">
                    </div>
                   </article>
                  </div>
                  <aside class="message-signature">
                   <div class="uix_signatureExpand">
                    Expand Signature
                   </div>
                   <div class="bbWrapper">
                    Ren'py:
                    <a class="link link--external" href="https://f95zone.com/threads/5676/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">
                     Track variables
                    </a>
                    -
                    <a class="link link--external" href="https://f95zone.com/threads/16011/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">
                     Save compatibiliy
                    </a>
                    -
                    <a class="link link--internal" href="https://f95zone.to/threads/125005/">
                     Track labels
                    </a>
                    <span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">
                     Updated
                    </span>
                    <br/>
                    <a class="link link--internal" href="https://f95zone.to/threads/99929/">
                     Write a dynamic Ren'Py game
                    </a>
                   </div>
                  </aside>
                 </div>
                 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList">
                 </div>
                 <footer class="message-footer">
                  <div class="message-actionBar actionBar">
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external">
                    <a class="reaction reaction--small actionBar-action actionBar-action--reaction reaction--imageHidden reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1" data-reaction-list="&lt; .js-post | .js-reactionsList" data-th-react-plus-content-id="1197747" data-th-react-plus-content-type="post" data-xf-init="reaction" href="/posts/1197747/react?reaction_id=1">
                     <i aria-hidden="true">
                     </i>
                     <img alt="Like" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" title="Like"/>
                     <span class="reaction-text js-reactionText">
                      <bdi>
                       Like
                      </bdi>
                     </span>
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--mq u-jsOnly js-multiQuote" data-message-id="1197747" data-mq-action="add" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1197747" title="Toggle multi-quote">
                     Quote
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" data-quote-href="/posts/1197747/quote" data-xf-click="quote" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1197747" title="Reply, quoting this message">
                     Reply
                    </a>
                   </div>
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--internal">
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--report" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/posts/1197747/report">
                     Report
                    </a>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href">
                  </div>
                 </footer>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
             </article>
             <article class="message message-threadStarterPost message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer" data-author="Billieb" data-content="post-1197861" id="js-post-1197861">
              <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1197861">
              </span>
              <div class="message-inner">
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--user">
                <section class="message-user userExtra--expand" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/Person">
                 <div class="message-avatar">
                  <div class="message-avatar-wrapper">
                   <a class="avatar avatar--m avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="926850" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/billieb.926850/" style="background-color: #ef6c00; color: #ffd180">
                    <span class="avatar-u926850-m">
                     B
                    </span>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="uix_messagePostBitWrapper">
                  <div class="message-userDetails">
                   <h4 class="message-name">
                    <a class="username" data-user-id="926850" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/billieb.926850/" itemprop="name">
                     Billieb
                    </a>
                   </h4>
                   <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    New Member
                   </h5>
                   <div class="userBanner message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    <span class="userBanner-before">
                    </span>
                    <strong>
                    </strong>
                    <span class="userBanner-after">
                    </span>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="message-userExtras">
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Joined">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-user uix_icon uix_icon--user">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     Oct 4, 2018
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Messages">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-comments uix_icon uix_icon--messages">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     6
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Likes">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-thumbs-up uix_icon uix_icon--like">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     1
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <span class="message-userArrow">
                 </span>
                </section>
               </div>
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--main">
                <div class="message-main uix_messageContent js-quickEditTarget">
                 <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split">
                  <div class="message-attribution-main">
                   <a class="u-concealed" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197861" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Oct 19, 2018" data-time="1539884228" data-time-string="1:37 AM" datetime="2018-10-19T01:37:08+0800" dir="auto" title="Oct 19, 2018 at 1:37 AM">
                     Oct 19, 2018
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                  <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list">
                   <li>
                    <a data-href="/posts/1197861/share" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197861" rel="nofollow">
                     <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-share-alt uix_icon uix_icon--share">
                     </i>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a class="bookmarkLink bookmarkLink--highlightable" data-label=".js-bookmarkText" data-sk-bookmarked="addClass:is-bookmarked, Edit bookmark" data-sk-bookmarkremoved="removeClass:is-bookmarked, Add bookmark" data-xf-click="bookmark-click" href="/posts/1197861/bookmark" title="Bookmark">
                     <span class="js-bookmarkText u-srOnly">
                      Add bookmark
                     </span>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197861" rel="nofollow">
                     #4
                    </a>
                   </li>
                  </ul>
                 </header>
                 <div class="message-content js-messageContent">
                  <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer" data-lb-caption-desc="Billieb · Oct 19, 2018 at 1:37 AM" data-lb-id="post-1197861">
                   <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote">
                    <div class="bbWrapper">
                     <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote">
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-title">
                       <a class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-content-selector="#post-1197736" data-xf-click="attribution" href="/goto/post?id=1197736">
                        Cohibozz said:
                       </a>
                      </div>
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-content">
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent">
                        for VN game i think the best start is renpy and daz3d. if u want u can use also unity or other engine but i think if u have some skills in programming like c++ with renpy u can start early to produce.
                        <br/>
                        i'm doing my game now and i've started as u form 0. i'm studying daz3d anr renpy and building mt game with help of guys in this forum (awesome).
                       </div>
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink">
                        <a>
                         Click to expand...
                        </a>
                       </div>
                      </div>
                     </blockquote>
                     Thanks  Cohiboz.. good luck with your journey
                    </div>
                    <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">
                    </div>
                   </article>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList">
                 </div>
                 <footer class="message-footer">
                  <div class="message-actionBar actionBar">
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external">
                    <a class="reaction reaction--small actionBar-action actionBar-action--reaction reaction--imageHidden reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1" data-reaction-list="&lt; .js-post | .js-reactionsList" data-th-react-plus-content-id="1197861" data-th-react-plus-content-type="post" data-xf-init="reaction" href="/posts/1197861/react?reaction_id=1">
                     <i aria-hidden="true">
                     </i>
                     <img alt="Like" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" title="Like"/>
                     <span class="reaction-text js-reactionText">
                      <bdi>
                       Like
                      </bdi>
                     </span>
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--mq u-jsOnly js-multiQuote" data-message-id="1197861" data-mq-action="add" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1197861" title="Toggle multi-quote">
                     Quote
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" data-quote-href="/posts/1197861/quote" data-xf-click="quote" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1197861" title="Reply, quoting this message">
                     Reply
                    </a>
                   </div>
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--internal">
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--report" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/posts/1197861/report">
                     Report
                    </a>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href">
                  </div>
                 </footer>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
             </article>
             <article class="message message-threadStarterPost message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer" data-author="Billieb" data-content="post-1197870" id="js-post-1197870">
              <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1197870">
              </span>
              <div class="message-inner">
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--user">
                <section class="message-user userExtra--expand" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/Person">
                 <div class="message-avatar">
                  <div class="message-avatar-wrapper">
                   <a class="avatar avatar--m avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="926850" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/billieb.926850/" style="background-color: #ef6c00; color: #ffd180">
                    <span class="avatar-u926850-m">
                     B
                    </span>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="uix_messagePostBitWrapper">
                  <div class="message-userDetails">
                   <h4 class="message-name">
                    <a class="username" data-user-id="926850" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/billieb.926850/" itemprop="name">
                     Billieb
                    </a>
                   </h4>
                   <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    New Member
                   </h5>
                   <div class="userBanner message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    <span class="userBanner-before">
                    </span>
                    <strong>
                    </strong>
                    <span class="userBanner-after">
                    </span>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="message-userExtras">
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Joined">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-user uix_icon uix_icon--user">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     Oct 4, 2018
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Messages">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-comments uix_icon uix_icon--messages">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     6
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Likes">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-thumbs-up uix_icon uix_icon--like">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     1
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <span class="message-userArrow">
                 </span>
                </section>
               </div>
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--main">
                <div class="message-main uix_messageContent js-quickEditTarget">
                 <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split">
                  <div class="message-attribution-main">
                   <a class="u-concealed" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197870" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Oct 19, 2018" data-time="1539884449" data-time-string="1:40 AM" datetime="2018-10-19T01:40:49+0800" dir="auto" title="Oct 19, 2018 at 1:40 AM">
                     Oct 19, 2018
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                  <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list">
                   <li>
                    <a data-href="/posts/1197870/share" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197870" rel="nofollow">
                     <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-share-alt uix_icon uix_icon--share">
                     </i>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a class="bookmarkLink bookmarkLink--highlightable" data-label=".js-bookmarkText" data-sk-bookmarked="addClass:is-bookmarked, Edit bookmark" data-sk-bookmarkremoved="removeClass:is-bookmarked, Add bookmark" data-xf-click="bookmark-click" href="/posts/1197870/bookmark" title="Bookmark">
                     <span class="js-bookmarkText u-srOnly">
                      Add bookmark
                     </span>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1197870" rel="nofollow">
                     #5
                    </a>
                   </li>
                  </ul>
                 </header>
                 <div class="message-content js-messageContent">
                  <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer" data-lb-caption-desc="Billieb · Oct 19, 2018 at 1:40 AM" data-lb-id="post-1197870">
                   <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote">
                    <div class="bbWrapper">
                     <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote">
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-title">
                       <a class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-content-selector="#post-1197747" data-xf-click="attribution" href="/goto/post?id=1197747">
                        anne O'nymous said:
                       </a>
                      </div>
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-content">
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent">
                        As I can guess, you're around my age, and I'm not the oldest here. So, please, remove this "very old".
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Well, it depend of what you want to do and how you want to do it. It also depend of your effective knowledge. You talked about what you knew 25/30 years ago, but not about what you know now. Because of your comment about DmD (which is a basic script program) I assume that you didn't really stayed in touch with coding.
                        <br/>
                        You mentioned C++, so Unity can be an option. It use C#, so you'll need some updates, but less than if you hadn't a single clue about how C works and what POO mean. You can also look for Ren'py. It's not a bad start if effectively you're rusty and not really aware of moderns paradigms.
                        <br/>
                        Thank you Anne for your extensive reply, I will check out  "Boo" as suggested, but I am still old.......... Kindest regards
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        In this case,
                        <a class="link link--external" href="https://f95zone.com/threads/the-blue-guide-2018-09-14.1636/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">
                         the Bloo guide
                        </a>
                        is the place where your journey start.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        DmD use Ren'py, a free engine wrote in Python and mixing Python and its own script language. It's actually the most used engine, partly because even someone with no coding knowledge can achieve to use it with more or less success. In the same time, the engine is way more powerful than it look (a Ferrari hidden behind a Beetle). So once you retrieve your old habits, you can go further without changing the engine.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        It's probably the better compromise between power and easy use, when it come to rendering 3D scene. But it's not the only option available. Here again, the Bloo guide is the place were to start.
                       </div>
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink">
                        <a>
                         Click to expand...
                        </a>
                       </div>
                      </div>
                     </blockquote>
                    </div>
                    <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">
                    </div>
                   </article>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList">
                 </div>
                 <footer class="message-footer">
                  <div class="message-actionBar actionBar">
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external">
                    <a class="reaction reaction--small actionBar-action actionBar-action--reaction reaction--imageHidden reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1" data-reaction-list="&lt; .js-post | .js-reactionsList" data-th-react-plus-content-id="1197870" data-th-react-plus-content-type="post" data-xf-init="reaction" href="/posts/1197870/react?reaction_id=1">
                     <i aria-hidden="true">
                     </i>
                     <img alt="Like" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" title="Like"/>
                     <span class="reaction-text js-reactionText">
                      <bdi>
                       Like
                      </bdi>
                     </span>
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--mq u-jsOnly js-multiQuote" data-message-id="1197870" data-mq-action="add" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1197870" title="Toggle multi-quote">
                     Quote
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" data-quote-href="/posts/1197870/quote" data-xf-click="quote" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1197870" title="Reply, quoting this message">
                     Reply
                    </a>
                   </div>
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--internal">
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--report" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/posts/1197870/report">
                     Report
                    </a>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href">
                  </div>
                 </footer>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
             </article>
             <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer" data-author="DreamLab Studio" data-content="post-1200629" id="js-post-1200629">
              <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1200629">
              </span>
              <div class="message-inner">
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--user">
                <section class="message-user userExtra--expand" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/Person">
                 <div class="message-avatar">
                  <div class="message-avatar-wrapper">
                   <a class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="715452" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/dreamlab-studio.715452/">
                    <img alt="DreamLab Studio" class="avatar-u715452-m" itemprop="image" src="/data/avatars/m/715/715452.jpg?1535820559" srcset="/data/avatars/l/715/715452.jpg?1535820559 2x"/>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="uix_messagePostBitWrapper">
                  <div class="message-userDetails">
                   <h4 class="message-name">
                    <a class="username" data-user-id="715452" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/dreamlab-studio.715452/" itemprop="name">
                     DreamLab Studio
                    </a>
                   </h4>
                   <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    Member
                   </h5>
                   <div class="userBanner message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    <span class="userBanner-before">
                    </span>
                    <strong>
                    </strong>
                    <span class="userBanner-after">
                    </span>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="message-userExtras">
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Joined">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-user uix_icon uix_icon--user">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     Jun 29, 2018
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Messages">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-comments uix_icon uix_icon--messages">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     145
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Likes">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-thumbs-up uix_icon uix_icon--like">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     132
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <span class="message-userArrow">
                 </span>
                </section>
               </div>
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--main">
                <div class="message-main uix_messageContent js-quickEditTarget">
                 <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split">
                  <div class="message-attribution-main">
                   <a class="u-concealed" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1200629" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Oct 20, 2018" data-time="1539968078" data-time-string="12:54 AM" datetime="2018-10-20T00:54:38+0800" dir="auto" title="Oct 20, 2018 at 12:54 AM">
                     Oct 20, 2018
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                  <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list">
                   <li>
                    <a data-href="/posts/1200629/share" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1200629" rel="nofollow">
                     <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-share-alt uix_icon uix_icon--share">
                     </i>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a class="bookmarkLink bookmarkLink--highlightable" data-label=".js-bookmarkText" data-sk-bookmarked="addClass:is-bookmarked, Edit bookmark" data-sk-bookmarkremoved="removeClass:is-bookmarked, Add bookmark" data-xf-click="bookmark-click" href="/posts/1200629/bookmark" title="Bookmark">
                     <span class="js-bookmarkText u-srOnly">
                      Add bookmark
                     </span>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1200629" rel="nofollow">
                     #6
                    </a>
                   </li>
                  </ul>
                 </header>
                 <div class="message-content js-messageContent">
                  <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer" data-lb-caption-desc="DreamLab Studio · Oct 20, 2018 at 12:54 AM" data-lb-id="post-1200629">
                   <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote">
                    <div class="bbWrapper">
                     <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote">
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-title">
                       <a class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-content-selector="#post-1197747" data-xf-click="attribution" href="/goto/post?id=1197747">
                        anne O'nymous said:
                       </a>
                      </div>
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-content">
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent">
                        As I can guess, you're around my age, and I'm not the oldest here. So, please, remove this "very old".
                       </div>
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink">
                        <a>
                         Click to expand...
                        </a>
                       </div>
                      </div>
                     </blockquote>
                     HAHA,  I have to agree on this point.   Next year I'm changing my age's first digit to a 5 so don't think you are only surrounded by a bunch of teens here.  LOL
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     My only coding experience has been some minor BASH scripting and a few months of studying both Perl and Python for studying Linux so I wouldn't even call it serious programming.   Based on what you said your experience is I don't see you having any problems with using RenPy which is basically Python.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     For creating images I've been learning Daz Studio as I prefer the look of the images compared to other popular programs.  I've also researched it a lot and so many people seem to suggest it as the 'Go To' program for 3D.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     I'm also using RenPy as I have some Python experience and I like the layout of the games they make.   The basic menus and game function is pretty easy to understand for players and since it's so popular a lot of players can quickly jump into your game and start enjoying it.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     I've said this before but I think the best thing for me learning more about RenPy is to download a game I've played that's done in RenPy,  since you played Dating My Daughter that's a good choice.   The use the UnRen program to unlock it so you can read through the .rpy files and see how it's coded.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     <a class="link link--external" href="https://f95zone.com/threads/unren-bat-v0-7-rpa-extractor-rpyc-decompiler-console-developer-menu-enabler.3083/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">
                      https://f95zone.com/threads/unren-b...compiler-console-developer-menu-enabler.3083/
                     </a>
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     In the /game directory start with "script.rpy" and you can see what variables are created and follow the game and see how images are called in, how choices are presented to the player, and how to jump between sections of code.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     Or course RenPy has their online info site and you can also check YouTube for videos of how people do things in RenPy which can help as well.
                     <br/>
                     <br/>
                     Most of all, don't worry about your age, it's not like you can wait till you get younger, right?
                     <img alt=":)" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite667" data-shortname=":)" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" title="Smile    :)"/>
                     Let's show people that those of us who remember when MTV first went live (and was good) can do.  :eazyHype:
                    </div>
                    <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">
                    </div>
                   </article>
                  </div>
                  <aside class="message-signature">
                   <div class="uix_signatureExpand">
                    Expand Signature
                   </div>
                   <div class="bbWrapper">
                    <div class="lbContainer lbContainer--inline" data-lb-container-zoom="1" data-lb-id="_xfUid-1-1729879782" data-lb-single-image="1" data-lb-trigger=".js-lbImage-_xfUid-1-1729879782" data-xf-init="lightbox" title="">
                     <div aria-label="Zoom" class="lbContainer-zoomer js-lbImage-_xfUid-1-1729879782" data-src="https://attachments.f95zone.to/2019/10/453334_wvm-02.gif">
                     </div>
                     <img class="bbImage lazyload" data-src="https://attachments.f95zone.to/2019/10/453334_wvm-02.gif" data-url="https://attachments.f95zone.to/2019/10/453334_wvm-02.gif" data-zoom-target="1" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" style=""/>
                     <noscript>
                      <img class="bbImage" data-url="https://attachments.f95zone.to/2019/10/453334_wvm-02.gif" data-zoom-target="1" src="https://attachments.f95zone.to/2019/10/453334_wvm-02.gif" style=""/>
                     </noscript>
                    </div>
                    <div class="lbContainer lbContainer--inline" data-lb-container-zoom="1" data-lb-id="_xfUid-2-1729879782" data-lb-single-image="1" data-lb-trigger=".js-lbImage-_xfUid-2-1729879782" data-xf-init="lightbox" title="">
                     <div aria-label="Zoom" class="lbContainer-zoomer js-lbImage-_xfUid-2-1729879782" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/ab1BX3o.gif">
                     </div>
                     <img class="bbImage lazyload" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/ab1BX3o.gif" data-url="https://i.imgur.com/ab1BX3o.gif" data-zoom-target="1" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" style=""/>
                     <noscript>
                      <img class="bbImage" data-url="https://i.imgur.com/ab1BX3o.gif" data-zoom-target="1" src="https://i.imgur.com/ab1BX3o.gif" style=""/>
                     </noscript>
                    </div>
                   </div>
                  </aside>
                 </div>
                 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList">
                 </div>
                 <footer class="message-footer">
                  <div class="message-actionBar actionBar">
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external">
                    <a class="reaction reaction--small actionBar-action actionBar-action--reaction reaction--imageHidden reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1" data-reaction-list="&lt; .js-post | .js-reactionsList" data-th-react-plus-content-id="1200629" data-th-react-plus-content-type="post" data-xf-init="reaction" href="/posts/1200629/react?reaction_id=1">
                     <i aria-hidden="true">
                     </i>
                     <img alt="Like" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" title="Like"/>
                     <span class="reaction-text js-reactionText">
                      <bdi>
                       Like
                      </bdi>
                     </span>
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--mq u-jsOnly js-multiQuote" data-message-id="1200629" data-mq-action="add" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1200629" title="Toggle multi-quote">
                     Quote
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" data-quote-href="/posts/1200629/quote" data-xf-click="quote" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1200629" title="Reply, quoting this message">
                     Reply
                    </a>
                   </div>
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--internal">
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--report" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/posts/1200629/report">
                     Report
                    </a>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href">
                  </div>
                 </footer>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
             </article>
             <article class="message message-threadStarterPost message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer" data-author="Billieb" data-content="post-1201238" id="js-post-1201238">
              <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1201238">
              </span>
              <div class="message-inner">
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--user">
                <section class="message-user userExtra--expand" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/Person">
                 <div class="message-avatar">
                  <div class="message-avatar-wrapper">
                   <a class="avatar avatar--m avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="926850" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/billieb.926850/" style="background-color: #ef6c00; color: #ffd180">
                    <span class="avatar-u926850-m">
                     B
                    </span>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="uix_messagePostBitWrapper">
                  <div class="message-userDetails">
                   <h4 class="message-name">
                    <a class="username" data-user-id="926850" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/billieb.926850/" itemprop="name">
                     Billieb
                    </a>
                   </h4>
                   <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    New Member
                   </h5>
                   <div class="userBanner message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle">
                    <span class="userBanner-before">
                    </span>
                    <strong>
                    </strong>
                    <span class="userBanner-after">
                    </span>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="message-userExtras">
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Joined">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-user uix_icon uix_icon--user">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     Oct 4, 2018
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Messages">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-comments uix_icon uix_icon--messages">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     6
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                   <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                    <dt>
                     <span data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Likes">
                      <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-thumbs-up uix_icon uix_icon--like">
                      </i>
                     </span>
                    </dt>
                    <dd>
                     1
                    </dd>
                   </dl>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <span class="message-userArrow">
                 </span>
                </section>
               </div>
               <div class="message-cell message-cell--main">
                <div class="message-main uix_messageContent js-quickEditTarget">
                 <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split">
                  <div class="message-attribution-main">
                   <a class="u-concealed" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1201238" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Oct 20, 2018" data-time="1539983938" data-time-string="5:18 AM" datetime="2018-10-20T05:18:58+0800" dir="auto" title="Oct 20, 2018 at 5:18 AM">
                     Oct 20, 2018
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </div>
                  <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list">
                   <li>
                    <a data-href="/posts/1201238/share" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1201238" rel="nofollow">
                     <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-share-alt uix_icon uix_icon--share">
                     </i>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a class="bookmarkLink bookmarkLink--highlightable" data-label=".js-bookmarkText" data-sk-bookmarked="addClass:is-bookmarked, Edit bookmark" data-sk-bookmarkremoved="removeClass:is-bookmarked, Add bookmark" data-xf-click="bookmark-click" href="/posts/1201238/bookmark" title="Bookmark">
                     <span class="js-bookmarkText u-srOnly">
                      Add bookmark
                     </span>
                    </a>
                   </li>
                   <li>
                    <a href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/post-1201238" rel="nofollow">
                     #7
                    </a>
                   </li>
                  </ul>
                 </header>
                 <div class="message-content js-messageContent">
                  <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer" data-lb-caption-desc="Billieb · Oct 20, 2018 at 5:18 AM" data-lb-id="post-1201238">
                   <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote">
                    <div class="bbWrapper">
                     <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote">
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-title">
                       <a class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-content-selector="#post-1200629" data-xf-click="attribution" href="/goto/post?id=1200629">
                        DreamLab Studio said:
                       </a>
                      </div>
                      <div class="bbCodeBlock-content">
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent">
                        HAHA,  I have to agree on this point.   Next year I'm changing my age's first digit to a 5 so don't think you are only surrounded by a bunch of teens here.  LOL
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        My only coding experience has been some minor BASH scripting and a few months of studying both Perl and Python for studying Linux so I wouldn't even call it serious programming.   Based on what you said your experience is I don't see you having any problems with using RenPy which is basically Python.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        For creating images I've been learning Daz Studio as I prefer the look of the images compared to other popular programs.  I've also researched it a lot and so many people seem to suggest it as the 'Go To' program for 3D.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        I'm also using RenPy as I have some Python experience and I like the layout of the games they make.   The basic menus and game function is pretty easy to understand for players and since it's so popular a lot of players can quickly jump into your game and start enjoying it.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        I've said this before but I think the best thing for me learning more about RenPy is to download a game I've played that's done in RenPy,  since you played Dating My Daughter that's a good choice.   The use the UnRen program to unlock it so you can read through the .rpy files and see how it's coded.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        <a class="link link--external" href="https://f95zone.com/threads/unren-bat-v0-7-rpa-extractor-rpyc-decompiler-console-developer-menu-enabler.3083/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">
                         https://f95zone.com/threads/unren-b...compiler-console-developer-menu-enabler.3083/
                        </a>
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        In the /game directory start with "script.rpy" and you can see what variables are created and follow the game and see how images are called in, how choices are presented to the player, and how to jump between sections of code.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Or course RenPy has their online info site and you can also check YouTube for videos of how people do things in RenPy which can help as well.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Most of all, don't worry about your age, it's not like you can wait till you get younger, right?
                        <img alt=":)" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite667" data-shortname=":)" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" title="Smile    :)"/>
                        Let's show people that those of us who remember when MTV first went live (and was good) can do.  :eazyHype:
                       </div>
                       <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink">
                        <a>
                         Click to expand...
                        </a>
                       </div>
                      </div>
                     </blockquote>
                     Thank you for your sound advice and kind words
                    </div>
                    <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">
                    </div>
                   </article>
                  </div>
                 </div>
                 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active">
                  <ul class="reactionSummary th_reactplus_reactionSummary--condensed">
                   <li>
                    <span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1">
                     <i aria-hidden="true">
                     </i>
                     <img alt="Like" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" title="Like"/>
                    </span>
                   </li>
                  </ul>
                  <span class="u-srOnly">
                   Reactions:
                  </span>
                  <a class="reactionsBar-link" data-cache="false" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/posts/1201238/reactions">
                   <bdi>
                    DreamLab Studio
                   </bdi>
                  </a>
                 </div>
                 <footer class="message-footer">
                  <div class="message-actionBar actionBar">
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external">
                    <a class="reaction reaction--small actionBar-action actionBar-action--reaction reaction--imageHidden reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1" data-reaction-list="&lt; .js-post | .js-reactionsList" data-th-react-plus-content-id="1201238" data-th-react-plus-content-type="post" data-xf-init="reaction" href="/posts/1201238/react?reaction_id=1">
                     <i aria-hidden="true">
                     </i>
                     <img alt="Like" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" title="Like"/>
                     <span class="reaction-text js-reactionText">
                      <bdi>
                       Like
                      </bdi>
                     </span>
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--mq u-jsOnly js-multiQuote" data-message-id="1201238" data-mq-action="add" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1201238" title="Toggle multi-quote">
                     Quote
                    </a>
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" data-quote-href="/posts/1201238/quote" data-xf-click="quote" href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/reply?quote=1201238" title="Reply, quoting this message">
                     Reply
                    </a>
                   </div>
                   <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--internal">
                    <a class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--report" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/posts/1201238/report">
                     Report
                    </a>
                   </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href">
                  </div>
                 </footer>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
             </article>
            </div>
           </div>
           <div class="block-outer block-outer--after">
            <div class="block-outer-opposite">
             <a class="showIgnoredLink is-hidden js-showIgnored" data-xf-init="tooltip" href="javascript:" title="Show hidden content by {{names}}">
              Show ignored content
             </a>
            </div>
            <div class="block-outer-opposite">
             <a class="th_reactplus_showHiddenLink js-thReactPlusShowHidden is-hidden" data-xf-init="tooltip" href="javascript:void(0)" title="Show hidden content by {{names}}">
              Show hidden low quality content
             </a>
            </div>
           </div>
          </div>
          <div class="blockMessage blockMessage--warning">
           <strong>
            Warning!
           </strong>
           This thread is more than 2197 days old.
           <br/>
           It's likely that no further discussion is required, in which case we recommend starting a new thread. If however you feel your response is required you can still do so.
           <div class="blockMessage blockMessage--error">
            <ul class="inputChoices">
             <li class="inputChoices-choice">
              <label class="iconic">
               <input id="js-confirmOld" name="confirm" type="checkbox" value="1"/>
               <i aria-hidden="true">
               </i>
               <span class="iconic-label">
                I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway
               </span>
              </label>
             </li>
            </ul>
           </div>
          </div>
          <div class="blockMessage blockMessage--none">
          </div>
          <div class="block-container block--similarContents view-thread">
           <h3 class="block-minorHeader collapseTrigger collapseTrigger--block is-active" data-storage-key="_similarThreads" data-storage-type="cookie" data-target=".block--similarContents .block-body" data-xf-click="toggle" data-xf-init="toggle-storage-ex">
            Similar threads
           </h3>
           <div class="block-body toggleTarget is-active">
            <div class="structItemContainer">
             <div class="structItemContainer-group js-threadList">
              <div class="structItem structItem--thread js-trendingThreadItem is-unread js-inlineModContainer js-threadListItem-29265" data-author="Zion of Olympus">
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--icon">
                <div class="structItem-iconContainer">
                 <a class="avatar avatar--s" data-user-id="1380112" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/zion-of-olympus.1380112/">
                  <img alt="Zion of Olympus" class="avatar-u1380112-s" src="/data/avatars/s/1380/1380112.jpg?1608430689" srcset="/data/avatars/m/1380/1380112.jpg?1608430689 2x"/>
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--main" data-xf-init="touch-proxy">
                <div class="structItem-title" uix-data-href="/threads/succubus-covenant-new-succubus-game-demo-available-now.29265/unread">
                 <a class="" data-preview-url="/threads/succubus-covenant-new-succubus-game-demo-available-now.29265/preview" data-tp-primary="on" data-xf-init="preview-tooltip" href="/threads/succubus-covenant-new-succubus-game-demo-available-now.29265/unread">
                  Succubus Covenant - New Succubus Game (Demo Available Now!)
                 </a>
                </div>
                <div class="structItem-minor">
                 <ul class="structItem-extraInfo">
                  <li>
                   <span class="ratingStarsRow">
                    <span class="ratingStars bratr-rating" title="5.00 star(s)">
                     <span class="ratingStars-star ratingStars-star--full">
                     </span>
                     <span class="ratingStars-star ratingStars-star--full">
                     </span>
                     <span class="ratingStars-star ratingStars-star--full">
                     </span>
                     <span class="ratingStars-star ratingStars-star--full">
                     </span>
                     <span class="ratingStars-star ratingStars-star--full">
                     </span>
                     <span class="u-srOnly">
                      5.00 star(s)
                     </span>
                    </span>
                    <span class="ratingStarsRow-text">
                     <div data-href="/threads/succubus-covenant-new-succubus-game-demo-available-now.29265/br-user-rated" data-xf-click="overlay" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Members who rated this thread">
                      3 Votes
                     </div>
                    </span>
                   </span>
                  </li>
                  <li>
                   <a class="tic--button button--ignoreText" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/tic-ignore/ignore?content_type=thread&amp;content_id=29265">
                    Ignore
                   </a>
                  </li>
                 </ul>
                 <ul class="structItem-parts">
                  <li>
                   <a class="username" data-user-id="1380112" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/zion-of-olympus.1380112/">
                    Zion of Olympus
                   </a>
                  </li>
                  <li class="structItem-startDate">
                   <a href="/threads/succubus-covenant-new-succubus-game-demo-available-now.29265/" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Apr 24, 2019" data-time="1556058965" data-time-string="6:36 AM" datetime="2019-04-24T06:36:05+0800" dir="auto" title="Apr 24, 2019 at 6:36 AM">
                     Apr 24, 2019
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </li>
                  <span class="structItem-pageJump">
                   <a href="/threads/succubus-covenant-new-succubus-game-demo-available-now.29265/page-10">
                    10
                   </a>
                   <a href="/threads/succubus-covenant-new-succubus-game-demo-available-now.29265/page-11">
                    11
                   </a>
                   <a href="/threads/succubus-covenant-new-succubus-game-demo-available-now.29265/page-12">
                    12
                   </a>
                  </span>
                 </ul>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--meta" title="First message reaction score: 94">
                <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                 <dt>
                  Replies
                 </dt>
                 <dd>
                  1K
                 </dd>
                </dl>
                <dl class="pairs pairs--justified structItem-minor">
                 <dt>
                  Views
                 </dt>
                 <dd>
                  549K
                 </dd>
                </dl>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--latest">
                <a href="/threads/succubus-covenant-new-succubus-game-demo-available-now.29265/latest" rel="nofollow">
                 <time class="structItem-latestDate u-dt" data-date-string="Oct 5, 2024" data-time="1728137041" data-time-string="10:04 PM" datetime="2024-10-05T22:04:01+0800" dir="auto" title="Oct 5, 2024 at 10:04 PM">
                  Oct 5, 2024
                 </time>
                </a>
                <div class="structItem-minor">
                 <a class="username" data-user-id="2456153" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/popup88888.2456153/">
                  popup88888
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--icon structItem-cell--iconEnd">
                <div class="structItem-iconContainer">
                 <a class="avatar avatar--xxs avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="2456153" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/popup88888.2456153/" style="background-color: #283593; color: #8c9eff">
                  <span class="avatar-u2456153-s">
                   P
                  </span>
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
              <div class="structItem structItem--thread js-trendingThreadItem js-inlineModContainer js-threadListItem-50754" data-author="lostraven">
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--icon">
                <div class="structItem-iconContainer">
                 <a class="avatar avatar--s" data-user-id="17060" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/lostraven.17060/">
                  <img alt="lostraven" class="avatar-u17060-s" src="/data/avatars/s/17/17060.jpg?1540563965" srcset="/data/avatars/m/17/17060.jpg?1540563965 2x"/>
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--main" data-xf-init="touch-proxy">
                <div class="structItem-title" uix-data-href="/threads/new-game-mirror-hearts.50754/">
                 <a class="" data-preview-url="/threads/new-game-mirror-hearts.50754/preview" data-tp-primary="on" data-xf-init="preview-tooltip" href="/threads/new-game-mirror-hearts.50754/">
                  New game - Mirror Hearts!
                 </a>
                </div>
                <div class="structItem-minor">
                 <ul class="structItem-extraInfo">
                  <li>
                   <a class="tic--button button--ignoreText" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/tic-ignore/ignore?content_type=thread&amp;content_id=50754">
                    Ignore
                   </a>
                  </li>
                 </ul>
                 <ul class="structItem-parts">
                  <li>
                   <a class="username" data-user-id="17060" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/lostraven.17060/">
                    lostraven
                   </a>
                  </li>
                  <li class="structItem-startDate">
                   <a href="/threads/new-game-mirror-hearts.50754/" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Apr 24, 2020" data-time="1587666730" data-time-string="2:32 AM" datetime="2020-04-24T02:32:10+0800" dir="auto" title="Apr 24, 2020 at 2:32 AM">
                     Apr 24, 2020
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </li>
                 </ul>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--meta" title="First message reaction score: 47">
                <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                 <dt>
                  Replies
                 </dt>
                 <dd>
                  30
                 </dd>
                </dl>
                <dl class="pairs pairs--justified structItem-minor">
                 <dt>
                  Views
                 </dt>
                 <dd>
                  13K
                 </dd>
                </dl>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--latest">
                <a href="/threads/new-game-mirror-hearts.50754/latest" rel="nofollow">
                 <time class="structItem-latestDate u-dt" data-date-string="Aug 23, 2024" data-time="1724354308" data-time-string="3:18 AM" datetime="2024-08-23T03:18:28+0800" dir="auto" title="Aug 23, 2024 at 3:18 AM">
                  Aug 23, 2024
                 </time>
                </a>
                <div class="structItem-minor">
                 <a class="username" data-user-id="6507220" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/soobaroo.6507220/">
                  Soobaroo
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--icon structItem-cell--iconEnd">
                <div class="structItem-iconContainer">
                 <a class="avatar avatar--xxs avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="6507220" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/soobaroo.6507220/" style="background-color: #558b2f; color: #ccff90">
                  <span class="avatar-u6507220-s">
                   S
                  </span>
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
              <div class="structItem structItem--thread js-trendingThreadItem js-inlineModContainer js-threadListItem-36766" data-author="decker2">
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--icon">
                <div class="structItem-iconContainer">
                 <a class="avatar avatar--s avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="100527" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/decker2.100527/" style="background-color: #03a9f4; color: #80d8ff">
                  <span class="avatar-u100527-s">
                   D
                  </span>
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--main" data-xf-init="touch-proxy">
                <div class="structItem-title" uix-data-href="/threads/excessm-new-games-yumesam-hagokoro.36766/">
                 <a class="" data-preview-url="/threads/excessm-new-games-yumesam-hagokoro.36766/preview" data-tp-primary="on" data-xf-init="preview-tooltip" href="/threads/excessm-new-games-yumesam-hagokoro.36766/">
                  excessm new games YUMESAM/ HAGOKORO
                 </a>
                </div>
                <div class="structItem-minor">
                 <ul class="structItem-extraInfo">
                  <li>
                   <a class="tic--button button--ignoreText" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/tic-ignore/ignore?content_type=thread&amp;content_id=36766">
                    Ignore
                   </a>
                  </li>
                 </ul>
                 <ul class="structItem-parts">
                  <li>
                   <a class="username" data-user-id="100527" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/decker2.100527/">
                    decker2
                   </a>
                  </li>
                  <li class="structItem-startDate">
                   <a href="/threads/excessm-new-games-yumesam-hagokoro.36766/" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Sep 14, 2019" data-time="1568396086" data-time-string="1:34 AM" datetime="2019-09-14T01:34:46+0800" dir="auto" title="Sep 14, 2019 at 1:34 AM">
                     Sep 14, 2019
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </li>
                  <span class="structItem-pageJump">
                   <a href="/threads/excessm-new-games-yumesam-hagokoro.36766/page-2">
                    2
                   </a>
                   <a href="/threads/excessm-new-games-yumesam-hagokoro.36766/page-3">
                    3
                   </a>
                   <a href="/threads/excessm-new-games-yumesam-hagokoro.36766/page-4">
                    4
                   </a>
                  </span>
                 </ul>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--meta" title="First message reaction score: 27">
                <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                 <dt>
                  Replies
                 </dt>
                 <dd>
                  366
                 </dd>
                </dl>
                <dl class="pairs pairs--justified structItem-minor">
                 <dt>
                  Views
                 </dt>
                 <dd>
                  154K
                 </dd>
                </dl>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--latest">
                <a href="/threads/excessm-new-games-yumesam-hagokoro.36766/latest" rel="nofollow">
                 <time class="structItem-latestDate u-dt" data-date-string="Oct 9, 2021" data-time="1633738887" data-time-string="8:21 AM" datetime="2021-10-09T08:21:27+0800" dir="auto" title="Oct 9, 2021 at 8:21 AM">
                  Oct 9, 2021
                 </time>
                </a>
                <div class="structItem-minor">
                 <a class="username" data-user-id="100527" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/decker2.100527/">
                  decker2
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--icon structItem-cell--iconEnd">
                <div class="structItem-iconContainer">
                 <a class="avatar avatar--xxs avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="100527" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/decker2.100527/" style="background-color: #03a9f4; color: #80d8ff">
                  <span class="avatar-u100527-s">
                   D
                  </span>
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
              <div class="structItem structItem--thread js-trendingThreadItem is-prefix13 is-prefix7 js-inlineModContainer js-threadListItem-59907" data-author="Deleted member 167032">
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--icon">
                <div class="structItem-iconContainer">
                 <a class="avatar avatar--s" data-user-id="167032" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/deleted-member-167032.167032/">
                  <img alt="Deleted member 167032" class="avatar-u167032-s" src="/data/avatars/s/167/167032.jpg?1611733053" srcset="/data/avatars/m/167/167032.jpg?1611733053 2x"/>
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--main" data-xf-init="touch-proxy">
                <div class="structItem-title" uix-data-href="/threads/alternate-existence-new-game-development-thread-mrknobb.59907/">
                 <a class="labelLink" data-xf-init="tooltip" href="/forums/programming-development-art.73/?prefix_id[0]=13" rel="nofollow" title="Add to filters">
                  <span class="label label--red" dir="auto">
                   VN
                  </span>
                 </a>
                 <span class="label-append">
                 </span>
                 <a class="labelLink" data-xf-init="tooltip" href="/forums/programming-development-art.73/?prefix_id[0]=7" rel="nofollow" title="Add to filters">
                  <span class="pre-renpy" dir="auto">
                   Ren'Py
                  </span>
                 </a>
                 <a class="" data-preview-url="/threads/alternate-existence-new-game-development-thread-mrknobb.59907/preview" data-tp-primary="on" data-xf-init="preview-tooltip" href="/threads/alternate-existence-new-game-development-thread-mrknobb.59907/">
                  Alternate Existence -- NEW GAME development thread (MrKnobb)
                 </a>
                </div>
                <div class="structItem-minor">
                 <ul class="structItem-extraInfo">
                  <li>
                   <span class="ratingStarsRow">
                    <span class="ratingStars bratr-rating" title="4.00 star(s)">
                     <span class="ratingStars-star ratingStars-star--full">
                     </span>
                     <span class="ratingStars-star ratingStars-star--full">
                     </span>
                     <span class="ratingStars-star ratingStars-star--full">
                     </span>
                     <span class="ratingStars-star ratingStars-star--full">
                     </span>
                     <span class="ratingStars-star">
                     </span>
                     <span class="u-srOnly">
                      4.00 star(s)
                     </span>
                    </span>
                    <span class="ratingStarsRow-text">
                     <div data-href="/threads/alternate-existence-new-game-development-thread-mrknobb.59907/br-user-rated" data-xf-click="overlay" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Members who rated this thread">
                      2 Votes
                     </div>
                    </span>
                   </span>
                  </li>
                  <li>
                   <a class="tic--button button--ignoreText" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/tic-ignore/ignore?content_type=thread&amp;content_id=59907">
                    Ignore
                   </a>
                  </li>
                 </ul>
                 <ul class="structItem-parts">
                  <li>
                   <a class="username" data-user-id="167032" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/deleted-member-167032.167032/">
                    Deleted member 167032
                   </a>
                  </li>
                  <li class="structItem-startDate">
                   <a href="/threads/alternate-existence-new-game-development-thread-mrknobb.59907/" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Aug 23, 2020" data-time="1598130517" data-time-string="5:08 AM" datetime="2020-08-23T05:08:37+0800" dir="auto" title="Aug 23, 2020 at 5:08 AM">
                     Aug 23, 2020
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </li>
                 </ul>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--meta" title="First message reaction score: 18">
                <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                 <dt>
                  Replies
                 </dt>
                 <dd>
                  8
                 </dd>
                </dl>
                <dl class="pairs pairs--justified structItem-minor">
                 <dt>
                  Views
                 </dt>
                 <dd>
                  13K
                 </dd>
                </dl>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--latest">
                <a href="/threads/alternate-existence-new-game-development-thread-mrknobb.59907/latest" rel="nofollow">
                 <time class="structItem-latestDate u-dt" data-date-string="Jan 4, 2022" data-time="1641287603" data-time-string="5:13 PM" datetime="2022-01-04T17:13:23+0800" dir="auto" title="Jan 4, 2022 at 5:13 PM">
                  Jan 4, 2022
                 </time>
                </a>
                <div class="structItem-minor">
                 <a class="username" data-user-id="1097500" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/thegrindisreal.1097500/">
                  thegrindisreal
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--icon structItem-cell--iconEnd">
                <div class="structItem-iconContainer">
                 <a class="avatar avatar--xxs" data-user-id="1097500" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/thegrindisreal.1097500/">
                  <img alt="thegrindisreal" class="avatar-u1097500-s" src="/data/avatars/s/1097/1097500.jpg?1619606979"/>
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
              <div class="structItem structItem--thread js-trendingThreadItem is-prefix2 js-inlineModContainer js-threadListItem-41233" data-author="Deleted member 1370527">
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--icon">
                <div class="structItem-iconContainer">
                 <span class="avatar avatar--s avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="0" style="background-color: #1a237e; color: #8c9eff">
                  <span class="avatar-u0-s">
                   D
                  </span>
                 </span>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--main" data-xf-init="touch-proxy">
                <div class="structItem-title" uix-data-href="/threads/pokelovers-new-project.41233/">
                 <a class="labelLink" data-xf-init="tooltip" href="/forums/programming-development-art.73/?prefix_id[0]=2" rel="nofollow" title="Add to filters">
                  <span class="label label--blue" dir="auto">
                   RPGM
                  </span>
                 </a>
                 <a class="" data-preview-url="/threads/pokelovers-new-project.41233/preview" data-tp-primary="on" data-xf-init="preview-tooltip" href="/threads/pokelovers-new-project.41233/">
                  PokéLovers (new project)
                 </a>
                </div>
                <div class="structItem-minor">
                 <ul class="structItem-extraInfo">
                  <li>
                   <a class="tic--button button--ignoreText" data-xf-click="overlay" href="/tic-ignore/ignore?content_type=thread&amp;content_id=41233">
                    Ignore
                   </a>
                  </li>
                 </ul>
                 <ul class="structItem-parts">
                  <li>
                   <span class="username" data-user-id="0" dir="auto">
                    Deleted member 1370527
                   </span>
                  </li>
                  <li class="structItem-startDate">
                   <a href="/threads/pokelovers-new-project.41233/" rel="nofollow">
                    <time class="u-dt" data-date-string="Nov 29, 2019" data-time="1575005486" data-time-string="1:31 PM" datetime="2019-11-29T13:31:26+0800" dir="auto" title="Nov 29, 2019 at 1:31 PM">
                     Nov 29, 2019
                    </time>
                   </a>
                  </li>
                 </ul>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--meta" title="First message reaction score: 12">
                <dl class="pairs pairs--justified">
                 <dt>
                  Replies
                 </dt>
                 <dd>
                  17
                 </dd>
                </dl>
                <dl class="pairs pairs--justified structItem-minor">
                 <dt>
                  Views
                 </dt>
                 <dd>
                  12K
                 </dd>
                </dl>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--latest">
                <a href="/threads/pokelovers-new-project.41233/latest" rel="nofollow">
                 <time class="structItem-latestDate u-dt" data-date-string="Nov 26, 2022" data-time="1669410778" data-time-string="5:12 AM" datetime="2022-11-26T05:12:58+0800" dir="auto" title="Nov 26, 2022 at 5:12 AM">
                  Nov 26, 2022
                 </time>
                </a>
                <div class="structItem-minor">
                 <a class="username" data-user-id="2296741" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" dir="auto" href="/members/3511368.2296741/">
                  3511368
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
               <div class="structItem-cell structItem-cell--icon structItem-cell--iconEnd">
                <div class="structItem-iconContainer">
                 <a class="avatar avatar--xxs avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="2296741" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" href="/members/3511368.2296741/" style="background-color: #ec407a; color: #ff80ab">
                  <span class="avatar-u2296741-s">
                   3
                  </span>
                 </a>
                </div>
               </div>
              </div>
             </div>
            </div>
           </div>
          </div>
         </div>
         <!-- BELOW MAIN CONTENT -->
        </div>
       </div>
      </div>
      <div class="breadcrumb block p-breadcrumb--bottom">
       <div class="pageContent">
        <ul class="p-breadcrumbs p-breadcrumbs--bottom" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/BreadcrumbList">
         <li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
          <a href="/" itemprop="item">
           <span itemprop="name">
            Forums
           </span>
          </a>
          <meta content="1" itemprop="position"/>
         </li>
         <li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
          <a href="/categories/development.72/" itemprop="item">
           <span itemprop="name">
            Development
           </span>
          </a>
          <meta content="2" itemprop="position"/>
         </li>
         <li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
          <a href="/forums/programming-development-art.73/" itemprop="item">
           <span itemprop="name">
            Programming, Development &amp; Art
           </span>
          </a>
          <meta content="3" itemprop="position"/>
         </li>
        </ul>
       </div>
      </div>
      <div class="samBannerUnit samAlignCenter" data-position="container_breadcrumb_bottom_below">
       <div class="samItem">
        <iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen" frameborder="0" src="https://candy.engine.adglare.net/?356780338&amp;iframe&amp;sizes=728x90&amp;ag_custom_vlmcp=e44a1cb3-639e-45f1-831b-672df53f2a57&amp;ag_custom_vlmspot=leaderboard_footer" style="width:728px; height:90px;">
        </iframe>
       </div>
      </div>
     </div>
    </div>
    <div class="uix_fabBar uix_fabBar--active">
     <div class="u-scrollButtons js-scrollButtons" data-trigger-type="both">
      <a class="button--scroll button" data-xf-click="scroll-to" href="#top">
       <span class="button-text">
        <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-arrow-up">
        </i>
        <span class="u-srOnly">
         Top
        </span>
       </span>
      </a>
      <a class="button--scroll button" data-xf-click="scroll-to" href="#footer">
       <span class="button-text">
        <i aria-hidden="true" class="fa--xf fas fa-arrow-down">
        </i>
        <span class="u-srOnly">
         Bottom
        </span>
       </span>
      </a>
     </div>
     <div class="p-title-pageAction">
      <select class="br-select input" data-deselectable="false" data-initial-rating="0" data-rating-href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/br-rate" data-readonly="false" data-show-selected="true" data-vote-content='&lt;div data-href="/threads/new-but-old.19464/br-user-rated" data-xf-click="overlay" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Members who rated this thread"&gt;0 Votes&lt;/div&gt;' data-widget-class="bratr-rating" data-xf-init="rating" name="rating">
       <option value="">
       </option>
       <option value="1">
        Terrible
       </option>
       <option value="2">
        Poor
       </option>
       <option value="3">
        Average
       </option>
       <option value="4">
        Good
       </option>
       <option value="5">
        Excellent
       </option>
      </select>
     </div>
    </div>
   </div>
  </div>
  <div class="u-bottomFixer js-bottomFixTarget">
  </div>
  <form hidden="hidden" style="display:none">
   <input id="_xfClientLoadTime" name="_xfClientLoadTime" tabindex="-1" title="_xfClientLoadTime" type="text" value=""/>
  </form>
 </body>
</html>
