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                        Why is it that you spend all that time writing and creating a good game and when it comes down to the sex scene it sounds like it was written by a 13 yr old virgin. Use your imagination and your senses ( sight, smell, touch and taste) when your writing those scenes .Turn your good game into a great one. EX. ( I lean in to kiss her pausing just  before our lips touch. I look into her eyes and i can see the desire and need in them. My warm breath gently blowing across her lips.I could smell the fresh clean scent of her skin. As our lips touch i could feel the softness and taste the sweetness of her lips.)
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                     Depends on the game. One of mine I'm doing exactly that in, but it has heavy narration in that form. The other one is narrated more through art, and I try to avoid such heavy handed explanations. I do intend to change that, somewhat, in future releases, as I do sometimes allow myself to use the MC's thoughts to describe events, but I don't want to take away from the style that allows the dialogue and visuals to speak for themselves as much as possible.
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                     I do hear you though, in that there could absolutely be more tactile information given, which is something I tried to stress in my other game's first major sexual scene. But I do think I should stress, not everyone likes, wants, or needs tactile info. In fact, I'll be honest with you, I think Japanese games use it as a crutch. Rather than developing the eroticism with the art, it falls back on it's writing. I find Manga tend to have the better mix, making commentary either in speech or thought about tactile information, while using varied panels of art to depict the scene visually.
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                     Yes i'm new to this site . But not when it comes to playing games. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. I was trying to give some of them an idea that might help them improve their games. I've been playing games since 1995. I've purchased 150 adult Japanese RPG games that I  didn't know the first word they said. not counting all the other games I have played.  But i have played games on here that have a good story and scenes and when it comes down to the sex scene in some it goes like this ( god d_m oh my mother fu_king god d_m ) See what I mean.
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                     Stuff like that works great for cheesy romance sex but not the kind of sex you see in most VN's where it's about the pleasure not the romance. You are talking When Harry met Sally when people here are expecting Debbie Does Dallas.
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                     It's the same for my games. Romance certainly has it's place during the build but when it comes to fucking I want to see 2 hot people fuck like rabbits not act like 2 love struck teenagers on their first date. I love romance but sex is where passion comes in and the words should reflect that. I want sexy.
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                     I didn't mean you have to write a romance novel. I was just giving an example to how they could improve the sex scene. I wouldn't want them to go into that much detail either. I think it would help the games without animations the most. It was just giving an idea to try and help some of them. I know you have seen some of the games I was talking about. They would be good writing and scenes and when it came down to the sex scene and the way they describe it just sorta  kills it. I am very happy i found this site .I'm not sure how i even managed finding it. If I hadn't of bookmarked I might not of ever found it again. I was going through all the game sites looking for games and just happened to click on something that took me here. I have enjoyed it ever since.
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                        He does have a point. Sex scenes tend to get repetitive. Especially after writing 30 or so. You can only type out "OH FUCK YEAH!" so many times and you start to wonder... How can i mix this up? Often times it is up to the characters themselves to bring the scene to life. I find writing my scenes with Christina a fucking joy because she will always make smart ass remarks at the most odd times. Yet somehow it fits because that's who she is. The threesome scene with Lynn is still my favorite sex scene I ever wrote, two very smart ass girls who are completely at odds with each other.
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                        Other times it can be the story that leads to a sex scene making it far more engaging. Again, the Carli scene in the shower. I felt that was a good scene, conveyed a lot of emotion and sadness in the character, though since its a porn game we don't want everything to be sad so I had the character slip in the shower to break Carli out of her stuper.
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                     Thank's  I have played alot of great games on here. I think temptation, teasing and seduction makes great games also . There was one game on here (where the heart is) Had the most unique relationship  I have seen in a game. It was the relationship between the MC and Katie. I laughed till I had tears in my eyes.. A good game to me draws me in like a good movie. I have played games that had several question and if you didn't choose the write answer the game was over and it had no saves or rollback you would have to start all over. That was forcing you to replay. Games are suppose to  fun not make you want to trow your PC out the window. A good game I will play many times.
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                     Aside from Depraved Awakening, which has quite a lot of variation within its scenes, I think most games that are using animation are actually suffering more than those with still images. I'm not even talking about the ones with bad animations. Often when a game uses animation they'll have one animation, maybe shown from different angles, but the same one animation, regardless. Some few will include two in a sex scene. Meanwhile, the first sex scene in Seraphim Academy, the game I'm writing for, and which happens in the first 5 minutes,  has several position changes and dialogue to go with them.
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                     Yes I have played both of those games. Thank's for all your hard work and time you put into them. I really enjoyed both of them. Life with Mary is the only game I have gave a 5 star rating. Not that there isn't others out there I just haven't took the time yet to rate them. After 40 years of working I had to leave my job because of my back. Now I draw a month what I was bringing home a week. So I can't support all the games I would like on Patreon . But I will support you ,but a can't pledge much. Thank's again for the games they are great.
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                        Yes I have played both of those games. Thank's for all your hard work and time you put into them. I really enjoyed both of them. Life with Mary is the only game I have gave a 5 star rating. Not that there isn't others out there I just haven't took the time yet to rate them. After 40 years of working I had to leave my job because of my back. Now I draw a month what I was bringing home a week. So I can't support all the games I would like on Patreon . But I will support you ,but a can't pledge much. Thank's again for the games they are great.
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                        I think people have really misunderstood what I meant .I was not talking about what the male character would say .I was not suggesting that you go into such detailed discriptions. Not all the games have to have animations to be good. What I meant was that sometimes if you use your imagination and senses you could have a better sex scene.Tell me does (I can feel his hard cock throbbing deep inside me ) or (I can feel his cock slowly opening me up as it pushes its way inside me) or(I can feel her pussy massaging and caressing my cock. OR does  (god dam oh my mother fucking god dam turn you on more) or (I stuck my big fat cock in her gaping pussy) These last two was actually used in a game.
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                        He does have a point. Sex scenes tend to get repetitive. Especially after writing 30 or so. You can only type out "OH FUCK YEAH!" so many times and you start to wonder... How can i mix this up? Often times it is up to the characters themselves to bring the scene to life. I find writing my scenes with Christina a fucking joy because she will always make smart ass remarks at the most odd times. Yet somehow it fits because that's who she is. The threesome scene with Lynn is still my favorite sex scene I ever wrote, two very smart ass girls who are completely at odds with each other.
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                     I have played your game depraved awakening. Its been awhile back and I just checked my downloads and seen it .I replayed one of the scenes and it was really good. Both animation and description. I don't really remember all of it so I will go back and play it again . When I first came on this site there was so many new games to play that I was like a kid in a candy store. Thank's for all your hard work and time you put into this game . I will rate it after I replay it.
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                     I've been here since mid 2016, but that doesn't mean shit either. I've been vocal about this matter too in the past. There always people agreed to you, there always people disagree with you. At first, I thought they are incompetent. But then I realize many things after discuss &amp; debate with many people, from Developer, story writer &amp; users.
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                     many of developers are good story writer, they are indeed quite special at that, no doubt. But when it comes to sex scene, their sex approach to sex isn't the same as how Hentai (Jap) approach. Japanese pervertism aren't the same as western one. For many developers, what's made are already good. Not to mention, some people don't care about the sex scene itself but the story telling. In many Asian country, sex is still a taboo things. That's why asian develop pervertism like a kid found out about sexual desire, always sneaky and secrecy. While in western, they pretty much very open on sexual matters, they prefer to explore the heart desire.
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                        If you listen to people based on their status on this forum (which means jack shit) your opinion doesn't mean much. He made a valid point, and if a new member can speak such sense I think he should be at least considered.
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                     I agree with you on some level but status has considerable pull whether you're online or offline. I mean I would imagine people who talk to mods or admins would take them far more seriously than when talking to me on here when dealing with matters like rules. Personally if I was talking to a highly experienced game developer whos very successful I'd probably take their opinion more to heart than say someone who has never coded in their life simply on the basis they have proved they know what it takes to make a great game. Depending on the topic, certain peoples opinions are typically more valued because of type of experience and status however its still good to keep a open ear I say.
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                        I personally like spoken dialogue more than descriptive text. Though a good mixture of both is the best. Alansya Chronicles has an amazing balance along with extremely good CG that makes the scenes super sexy. Roundscape, though the game as a whole is seriously good, tends to go overboard with the descriptive text during scenes.
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                     Honestly I'm surprised, does quantity count more than quality? It depends on the mentioned point and subject and several games are "thin" and "repeating" regarding the sex scenes - not surprising because erotic happens in your brain whereas for sex you use your d... ( I think I don't have to mention it).
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