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                      The Things We Do For Love is a romance story that follows the characters Alexander and Alexis after the two of them are brought closer together after a traumatic experience. It will be up to you, the player, to decide how both Alexander and Alexis respond to this new closeness, whether they resist temptation or are driven by it, whether they give in to their personal fears and demons or triumph over them.
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                      You will be in control of both characters, which has the potential to lead to some interesting situations, as you can have one resisting while the other does not. Will this be a comedic and fun coupling? A tragic NTR tale? Or something more dramatic but also rewarding? It's up to you.
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                     : 2019-04-02
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                      DSeductionGames
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                      Version
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                     : Episode 2 - Patron Edition
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                         3DCG, Incest, Twins, Romance, Oral sex, Multiple protagonist, Male protagonist, Female protagonist, Rape, Virgin, Gay, NTR, Maledom
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                         This game opens on a gay incestuous rape scene. It is not fetish content. It is there to serve the plot. There is an option to skip the art, but the text is still provided because getting you to feel this scene is a part of the story. No, I will not change this.
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                         NTR will be avoidable, you play as both Male and Female leads, the only way either of them has sex with anyone is if they choose to.
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                         Gay content, beyond the opening scene, will be avoidable, however, the characters are still clearly queer coded.
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                         1- Extract to desired location.
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                         Ep2 - Patron Bonus Scene
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                         Added optional, non-canon scene reward for top tier patrons
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                         Initialized color coded narration, now the character narration will reflect the color of their names (also changed Alexander's color)
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                         Fixed missing scene, it is now accessible via a menu option between the two rather than a conditional statement.
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                         Ep2
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                         Edited Episode 1 script, you can now skip the images of the rape scene. You will still read the dialogue, but the text will be over a black screen.
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                         Added Episode 2
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                         Ep1
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                         initial Release
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                     Maybe it could be a bit more clear who is narrating - sometimes that changes rapidly and there are no names displayed.
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                     That's a completely fair response. Like I said, plenty of people will have a similar reaction, and I'm not trying to debate you or change your mind. It's completely understandable that people who approach VNs with the mindset of wanting to identify with the MC will not enjoy this. I'll just say that this is a VN that that doesn't have an MC and doesn't intend to have a "YOU." We are reading about Alexander and Alexis, two characters in a story. As a reader, we see events from both of their perspectives interchangeably, and make decisions for each of them that drive the outcome branches of the story. Alex is the victim, not you or me.
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                     As Faux pointed out, "You" is very relative in a game where there are multiple protagonists. More importantly, there's a point to it all. That action drives the plot forward. It drives the characters who are twins closer together, giving a realistic motivation for their incestuous feelings, it informs Alexis' moral compass, as I hinted toward and will explore further in the next release, and it gave Alex a hero to look up to and desire to become.
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                        Any game that thinks it's a good idea to start off that way is a game I'm not interested in playing. Because it's in the same vein as NTR games etc (which the dev, unsurprisingly, is also including in this game.) I'm not into that kind of thing. As I said, others can feel free to enjoy it. I'm not playing a game that does that to me right out of the gate. End of story.
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                        Flashing screens are dangerous for people who have seizures. It is necessary to include a warning at the beginning of the game and offer an option to disable this visual effect.
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                        The beginning scene will end up driving away a lot of people. It would be smart to offer an option to start the game without being forced to view this type of content.
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                        Apart from these two aspects, the game has a lot of potential, good job!
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                     I don't know, I'm not a fan of rape fetish at all (nor of certain other fetishes either), and that forced scene did make my stomach twist, but it didn't make me not want to read the story any further. Yes, it is VERY tragic scene and may not be easy to digest, but it is a necessary trigger for the particular story, basically whatever path you will end up choosing in the story, might be the cause of that particular scene. Such a thing really can affect a person in many ways and affect their lives many many years after. In my route the scene brought the twins closer.
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                        That opening scene - yes, it
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                     I have to say I totally appreciate Darth's bold decision to start the game with a brutally graphic depiction of Alexander's victimization. Darth had to know it would turn a lot of people away, but did it anyway. That's brave.
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                        I have to say I totally appreciate Darth's bold decision to start the game with a brutally graphic depiction of Alexander's victimization. Darth had to know it would turn a lot of people away, but did it anyway. That's brave.
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                     That's how I personally felt about the beginning of the story, it's not an easy scene to digest, I just felt that it was necessary, it triggers the story and you as the player decide just how it will affect the twins.
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                        I have to say I totally appreciate Darth's bold decision to start the game with a brutally graphic depiction of Alexander's victimization. Darth had to know it would turn a lot of people away, but did it anyway. That's brave.
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                     True you take out the opening with the brutally graphic depiction of Alexander's victimization and the shot you take away the whole plot. The only thing that would have made that scene more impactful was if Janie's got a gun was playing in the background and the gunshot and the bullets striking were animated.  The want to be cinematographer in me. If anything it drives you into the story more
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                        Who does the CG in this game? Is it https Funfiction ?
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                        One small suggestion: Since you're jumping between protagonists, sometimes even while they share the same room - perhaps color-code the text when they speak? Makes it easier to follow the flow of the story.
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                            it's not just that rape and molestation happen, as they do in many games... it's that YOU are the victim of being mouth raped by your own father, shown in drawn out graphic detail and with you getting a throat full of his cum etc.
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                        Any game that thinks it's a good idea to start off that way is a game I'm not interested in playing. Because it's in the same vein as NTR games etc (which the dev, unsurprisingly, is also including in this game.) I'm not into that kind of thing. As I said, others can feel free to enjoy it. I'm not playing a game that does that to me right out of the gate. End of story.
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                        As Faux pointed out, "You" is very relative in a game where there are multiple protagonists. More importantly, there's a point to it all. That action drives the plot forward. It drives the characters who are twins closer together, giving a realistic motivation for their incestuous feelings, it informs Alexis' moral compass, as I hinted toward and will explore further in the next release, and it gave Alex a hero to look up to and desire to become.
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                     i was gonna say , authors often use dramatic events as a plot device not because they want character to die or get raped or be tortured but seems Darth made that point a lot better.
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                        Yep, it would have to be something you want to happen to have it happen.
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                     I have deleted the game at this point, but I remember a few words that were typos like "shoudl" instead of "should". I can go back thru it and give you more info in PM.
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                     Man just playing this felt odd with the character jumps, I can only imagine how bad it would be to play through the whole thing. Its such a shame because I really liked everything else.
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                     Hi i hope some body can help me i get an error when i start the game and i dont know how to fix it
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                        im new at this where does the incest patch go?
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                     you place the patch in your game folder
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                        This dev is spamming shitload of tags which is not in the game. Waste my time trying it. So I gave him one star in the rating. And it's just a demo, not a game. He conveniently forgot about that too.
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                     It's the first release. You do know how these games work right no first release has everthing in it for the most part. As for the tags, this one release had: 3dcg, female protagonist, gay, incest, male protagonist, multiple protagonist, oral sex, rape, romance, twins, and depending on your definitions virgin and NTR. So it isn't like this was a bait and switch.
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                     strange i put it in game folder and main folder (where exe is) cause i didnt rly know where it should go
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                         The Things We Do For Love is a romance story that follows the characters Alexander and Alexis after the two of them are brought closer together after a traumatic experience. It will be up to you, the player, to decide how both Alexander and Alexis respond to this new closeness, whether they resist temptation or are driven by it, whether they give in to their personal fears and demons or triumph over them. You will be in control of both characters, which has the potential to lead to some interesting situations, as you can have one resisting while the other does not. Will this be a comedic and fun coupling? A tragic NTR tale? Or something more dramatic but also rewarding? It's up to you.
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                         DSeductionGames
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                         Version
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                        : Chapter 1
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                            Incest, Twins, Romance, NTR, Cheating, Anal, Vaginal, Oral, Multiple Protagonist, Male Protagonist, Female Protagonist, Rape, Virgin, Lesbian, Gay
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                            1- Extract to desired location.
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                            2- Click on "executable_name.exe" to start playing.
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