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                        I totally agree with you (and Warframe is actually a game I've been wanting to try); I actually don't mind complex systems, and even grinding (hell I played Everquest for years, when people here complain about a game being grindy, I just chuckle), but it still needs to be incorporated in a meaningful way where I still have a sense of agency in the game.
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                     Oh man, EverQuest. I also  used to be sucked into that for several years back in the early/mid 2000s. That game drove me crazy with all the waiting around. I once spent nearly a full day (something like 18+ hours) camping that barbarian in Qeynos Hills for the Fishbone Earing. Also used to help organize open raids on Naggy and Vox weekly for several months straight in order to get a drop for my Warrior's 1.0 epic and lost on every single roll...
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                     Ooh, I like this question.  In no particular order (I'll probably consider trends at the end) -
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                     1) SuperPowered also.  This one I've come and gone about.  I thought the RAGS version was rad but kinda weird, then I enjoyed the very earliest builds of SuperPowered on ren'py, but when it actually evolved into the game it is now I felt totally lost.  Later, as I learned to actually play the game (I even put together an early guide on how to get max grades by the end of the first month), I found it really satisfying.  The grind eventually wore me down and it's been a few builds since I played, but I'd definitely say it's still a great game.
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                     2) Corruption of Champions.  The first few times I tried it I was like 'wtf am I turning into?  I don't even know how to feel, sexually, about having huge tits and like five monster dicks, and my...intersex person/monster thing?...is getting anally raped by Goddamn everything.'  Eventually, I learned that there's ALSO a decent RPG under the game and if you know what you're doing you can basically stay or become whatever you want and fuck a whole range of things/people/etc., some of whom aren't even all that monster-ey.
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                     I wish I could say TiTS was in the same category, as it's actually got a decent RPG system under the hood too as well  as some not-bad sex scenes, but as of the last few months I've had to put it in the same category as Patreon broadly: more interested in money than making good, weird porn games  (and considering the fact that their main plot essentially
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                     3) A Spell for All.  I actually first tried this game out when it was being developed by its original dev (Wizard, I believe), and while I knew it was cool it was also really hard to find any kind of explanation of how to play the thing far enough to really get into the main story, and I just got fucking LOST.  Some difficult puzzles, easy to goozle yourself into an unavoiodable game over, and at the time it had a very small number of save slots.
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                     Fast forward to the last couple years, and now there's a walkthrough thread on hypnopics, several nearly complete and different ways to play the game, and I really enjoy the hell out of it (also the save system is
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                     5) Man of the House.  Much like with SuperPowered, I started off as a fan but got very frustrated when it actually got its eventual game loop together.  Again, this is an instance where you probably just want a walkthrough the first time through if only to know what to do when.  It's also really irritating to try to play one storyline at a time, so I'd recommend trying to plow everybody all at once and only making a choice when it becomes necessary due to time conflicts.  While you might advance past a couple optional scenes, it's generally hard to miss most of the content aside from the hidden card things (they're, like, okay.  Not a big worry if you don't want to spend time searching for them tho).
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                     6) Daughter for Dessert.  I really should have known with this one that it would be good, what with Palmer making it.  For once, this wasn't so much a game with mechanics I didn't understand as a game that I assumed was just going off the rails by the third chapter or so (that is, the titular 'Daughter' seems to fade out so the dad can bang other people he's not [maybe?] related to).  Still, by a few more chapters in, shit gets lit again.  Eventually the game can start to wear out its welcome by just having the plodding 'visual novel' narrative style of describing things to death, but it's absolutely worth a look if that kinda game is your scene (daddy-daughter incest, of course).
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                     That's probably enough stuff.  If you got this far, I think I would say the things that end up on this list for me are: games with really good sex stuff that takes a loooong Goddamn time to get to, or games that hide good/incest-themed sex behind complex systems that are frustrating for noobs but really fun once you get good at them.
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                        Oh man, EverQuest. I also  used to be sucked into that for several years back in the early/mid 2000s. That game drove me crazy with all the waiting around. I once spent nearly a full day (something like 18+ hours) camping that barbarian in Qeynos Hills for the Fishbone Earing. Also used to help organize open raids on Naggy and Vox weekly for several months straight in order to get a drop for my Warrior's 1.0 epic and lost on every single roll...
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