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                     As you can tell, I'm looking for a game which involves bbw's and incest. However, I'm trying to find specific types.
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                        NO NETORARE ( I don't want the protagonist to be cock blocked )
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                        BBW and incest the only thing i can thnk of is 2 games, bu they 3DCG
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                     Netori is still a Netorare story, just told from a different perspective, and no, being the person stolen can still be Netorare, because NTR isn't about the sex, it's about the shift in the stolen person's affection from their current relationship to the netori. We can say this with a certainty, because the relationship doesn't have to be romantic or sexual in nature between the two parties who have a solid bond of trust in order for it to be NTR. You can experience NTR with your best platonic male friend. You can experience NTR with a family member without involving incest. What NTR is about is the destruction of a bond of trust, genrally, at the hands of a determined Netori, though in some occasions, as a result of a consensual action by the "betraying" member.
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                     So, you're a teenage boy, your dad is dead or divorced your mom and moved very far away. Your relationship with your mom is completely normal. She cooks dinner and provides for you, you go to school, and come to he when you need help. Suddenly, your mom gets a new boyfriend. In the beginning she'd make some food and leave you leftovers, but was still caring for you, however as time goes on, she's home less and less, she barely asks you how school is going, and neither does the shopping nor the cooking, requiring you to completely take care of yourself. This is NTR. And it doesn't matter if this story is told from the perspective of the Netori, the mom, or you as the son. What matters is the fact that the mom has betrayed her duties as a mother for her lust/love for the Netori.
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                     If you're just cheating, but still intend to stay with the person you love, it's not NTR. If you're being cheated on and that person comes back without you ever finding out about it, it's not NTR. If you get a girl to cheat on their loved one and they still go back to their loved one, it's not Netori. If you're cheated on and that person comes back and you know and allow them to continue cheating, that's cuckoldry, not NTR. Your understanding of the genre is very much without nuance.
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                     Netorare is defined as a scenario in which the MC has his loved one stolen away, and defiled. Cuckolding games find themselves partnered with this occasionally. In fact, the native spelling of Netorare translate to Cuckold or Cuckolding.
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                     And for the matter of being the one stolen and defiled, it's not Netori since your not stealing and its not Netorare since your not having your loved one stolen. I was also wrong in the fact of just calling it cheating. It's only cheating if you are willing to do it, otherwise it is a suprising little term called Reverse-Netorare. Now this term gets used two ways. One, describes it as when the MC is the own being stolen,defiled, or whatever. The second being your average gender reversal situation ( compare to Reverse-Rape ).
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                        Netorare is defined as a scenario
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                     Wrong, and too narrow. Outside of games that literally put you in the driver seat as the member having their loved one stolen away, it's actually rare for an NTR story to focus much on them at all. Most will set up that the guy really loves the girl, in a scene where he does something for her, and then switch focus to the girl for the rest of the plot. More on this later.
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                        Cuckolding games find themselves partnered with this occasionally.
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                     Only in branching stories where cuckoldry is an optional end. Similarly, just because my game has a lesbian tag doesn't mean there is no straight sex.
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                        In fact, the native spelling of Netorare translate to Cuckold or Cuckolding.
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                     Not in the fetish definition of the word, in which the cuck must be a willing participant. Cuckoldry, as a fetish is not the same as saying that a man who's girlfriend or wife has cheated on him is a cuckold. Also, it's not a direct translation, it's an interpreted translation, because NTR is a very complex idea which doesn't have to include a romantic relationship at all, and you aren't getting cucked in a a platonic relationship
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                        And for the matter of being the one stolen and defiled
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                     You keep using the word defiled. While it is possible for a netorare or netori story to include darker themes, like rape, drugging, blackmail, coercion, and forcing the betraying partner to do things that they aren't comfortable with, or that are seen as morally wrong, it isn't a necessary element.
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                        , it's not Netori since your not stealing and its not Netorare since your not having your loved one stolen.
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                     I don't get why you have such a difficult time understanding why it doesn't matter who's perspective you're seeing the Netorare happen from. It is still Netorare from every perspective. In order for Netorare to happen Person A is a "victim", for lack of a better word, having their partner, Person B stolen by a Netori, person C. If you follow person C you are the Netori, the story is that of the Netori, but what you are doing is still Netorare. If you follow person B you are betraying Person A for the Netori, but what is happening is still Netorare. If you are person A, your loved one is being stolen by person C, and the story is still Netorare. My only guess is that you've been so groomed as to say that NTR is a bad thing, that you can't see past the front page and accept that NTR can be shown from different perspectives, and you can still get off on it.
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                         An example that I read recently would be a plot in which A is shown waiting for B after school in the rain. B supposedly had club duties or something, and A, a bit of a beta, and simply grateful that this hotty even speaks to him, let alone wanted to go out with him, waits for her outside. When she arrives she apologizes for making him wait, beginning to establish that she cares about him. They walk home together, and A makes clear to the audience, through his thoughts, that he looks forward to one day moving their relationship forward to sex.
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                        I was also wrong in the fact of just calling it cheating. It's only cheating if you are willing to do it
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                     NTR does not require the story to be Non-Con in nature. You can have consensual NTR, in fact, I'd describe the situation above, at least from the point we saw it, consensual, and it does have an NTR tag.
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                        otherwise it is a suprising little term called Reverse-Netorare. Now this term gets used two ways. One, describes it as when the MC is the own being stolen,defiled, or whatever. The second being your average gender reversal situation ( compare to Reverse-Rape ).
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                     All of these are flawed and based on a masculine-centric viewpoint. Rape is Rape no matter if the woman rapes the man or the man the woman. Same with NTR, it doesn't matter who is being stolen, it's NTR. But at least with the idea of using reverse-x as the tag for a gender role reversal from what is the accepted norm, it makes sense if only to make it easier to tag these in some way, because simply using a seperate tag, like Female Protagonist, isn't enough, because she could be the one getting raped still. In the case of following the betraying partner, calling it reverse is simply incorrect, as nothing is going in the opposite direction, an NTR story in the normal format is still occurring, we are just following person B. It is still NTR.
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                        Finally, there is the point that we may not agree on this matter no matter how much we bicker. If after this reply you don't agree, don't post another argument, just post something like,"Agree to disagree." I don't want to fight with the members of this community. So instead, let us put this behind us and carry on. This is a site for porn anyways.
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                     I'm not trying to fight with you, so stop thinking in terms of hostility. I am trying to help you understand that the narrow view of NTR that is put forward by western interpretations and a hyper masculine majority, especially on this site, is not the truth of the concept. I understand if you don't want to continue, but I'm not going to simply see wrong information and not correct it.
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                        I didn't mean fight in an aggressive way, in our case it could be considered a fight due to two opposing forces conflicting with each other.
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                     Well, when my interpretation lines up with comics all across the spectrum of the genre that is NTR, it becomes clear that my "opinion" mirrors the facts of the evidence, while yours, as I said above, is based on a faulty western interpretation of the concept. Furthermore, congratulations on choosing to insult someone rather than engage with them honestly. This was not a fight, but a discussion. I've been quite civil, but you seem to have a high opinion of yourself. Have fun with your pride and ignorance.
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                        As you can tell, I'm looking for a game which involves bbw's and incest. However, I'm trying to find specific types.
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                        Wrong, and too narrow. Outside of games that literally put you in the driver seat as the member having their loved one stolen away, it's actually rare for an NTR story to focus much on them at all. Most will set up that the guy really loves the girl, in a scene where he does something for her, and then switch focus to the girl for the rest of the plot. More on this later.
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                        Only in branching stories where cuckoldry is an optional end. Similarly, just because my game has a lesbian tag doesn't mean there is no straight sex.
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                        Not in the fetish definition of the word, in which the cuck must be a willing participant. Cuckoldry, as a fetish is not the same as saying that a man who's girlfriend or wife has cheated on him is a cuckold. Also, it's not a direct translation, it's an interpreted translation, because NTR is a very complex idea which doesn't have to include a romantic relationship at all, and you aren't getting cucked in a a platonic relationship
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                        You keep using the word defiled. While it is possible for a netorare or netori story to include darker themes, like rape, drugging, blackmail, coercion, and forcing the betraying partner to do things that they aren't comfortable with, or that are seen as morally wrong, it isn't a necessary element.
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                        I don't get why you have such a difficult time understanding why it doesn't matter who's perspective you're seeing the Netorare happen from. It is still Netorare from every perspective. In order for Netorare to happen Person A is a "victim", for lack of a better word, having their partner, Person B stolen by a Netori, person C. If you follow person C you are the Netori, the story is that of the Netori, but what you are doing is still Netorare. If you follow person B you are betraying Person A for the Netori, but what is happening is still Netorare. If you are person A, your loved one is being stolen by person C, and the story is still Netorare. My only guess is that you've been so groomed as to say that NTR is a bad thing, that you can't see past the front page and accept that NTR can be shown from different perspectives, and you can still get off on it.
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                            An example that I read recently would be a plot in which A is shown waiting for B after school in the rain. B supposedly had club duties or something, and A, a bit of a beta, and simply grateful that this hotty even speaks to him, let alone wanted to go out with him, waits for her outside. When she arrives she apologizes for making him wait, beginning to establish that she cares about him. They walk home together, and A makes clear to the audience, through his thoughts, that he looks forward to one day moving their relationship forward to sex.
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                            The next day A wakes up sick from having waited in the rain. We then follow B for the rest of the story. B worries in class about A, blaming herself for his ailment. She tells herself that as soon as school is out she'll go see B, care for him, apologize for making him wait. Classes end, and 3 guys come up to B. They begin propositioning her, she denies them at first, explaining that A is home sick and she wants to see him. One of them reminds her that the reason he's sick is because he was waiting for her while they were fucking yesterday. Another says, even better we should go to a love hotel, since he isn't here. She relents, goes with them to the love hotel. This is interesting, it shows that we are picking this NTR story up in the middle, apparently, it also shows us her making a binary choice that betrays person A without being forced.
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                            Over the course of their intercourse, the guys get her to admit that she's a slut and that she loves being fucked, a common theme in NTR, because it allows the author to verbally acknowledge that person B is beginning to choose her new lust/love over the bond of trust they have with someone else. In her mind she begins to go more in depth with that choice, how it makes her feel. Then one says that he wants to cum inside her, and she resists a little making it clear that this would be a first, and in the end, she accepts that she is no longer fit to be person A's girlfriend. However, the story is left open ended, with Person A never finding out, and her showing up, cum still dripping from her pussy, at his door. It has been foreshadowed that the choice has been made for her. But this allows the NTR community to have their story, and the cuckoldry community to have theirs as well. Because if it were a game, the next step would be to decide whether he stays and gets off on it, or leaves and destroys the relationship.
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                        All of these are flawed and based on a masculine-centric viewpoint. Rape is Rape no matter if the woman rapes the man or the man the woman. Same with NTR, it doesn't matter who is being stolen, it's NTR. But at least with the idea of using reverse-x as the tag for a gender role reversal from what is the accepted norm, it makes sense if only to make it easier to tag these in some way, because simply using a seperate tag, like Female Protagonist, isn't enough, because she could be the one getting raped still. In the case of following the betraying partner, calling it reverse is simply incorrect, as nothing is going in the opposite direction, an NTR story in the normal format is still occurring, we are just following person B. It is still NTR.
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                        I'm not trying to fight with you, so stop thinking in terms of hostility. I am trying to help you understand that the narrow view of NTR that is put forward by western interpretations and a hyper masculine majority, especially on this site, is not the truth of the concept. I understand if you don't want to continue, but I'm not going to simply see wrong information and not correct it.
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                     Hmph...this is surprisingly enlightening. Definitely didn't expect to learn so much about NTR when I clicked this thread. I did a quick google search and came to the conclusion it was just cuckolding, that being the literal translation on some websites. but of course as is everything sexual, there's a spectrum and no real easy answer.
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