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                      The Desire Within is a erotic choice-focused visual novel that focuses on romance and mystery. You'll follow the daily lives of 3 neighbors when strange events studdenly start taking place in their apartment building.
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                          Grace is a lone wolf who enjoys being alone more than anything. Not only is she a bit of a nudist, but she also has the mysterious power to sense other people's sexual arousal and sometimes she even manages to share in the pleasure that people around her are experiencing. When a mysterious girl claiming to be a succubus suddenly appears in her apartment, Grace learns about another world full of demons that for some odd reasons seem to be terrified of humans. This mysterious succubus, Vivi, has somehow never heard of or experienced sex however and masturbation is a foreign concept to her. On a quest to understand humans and human behavior, Vivi wants to learn as much about Grace as she can. Grace allows Vivi to live with her because she knows Vivi won't be able to pass as a human in this world without her help.
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                          Zoe is a high school student who has trouble connecting with other people. The one person she can talk to without holding back is Vamp11, the nickname of a girl who received Zoe's phone number from a friend. Vamp11 isn't afraid to send nude pictures, but she always makes sure never to show her face. But what will Zoe do when Vamp11 starts making stranger and stranger requests? And will she ever find out this mysterious girl's true identity?
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                          Samuel is a teacher at a local high school who has received guardianship over one of his students, Karen. After his wife passed away, Samuel longed for new romantic companionship. A while ago he found that with Karen and their new sexual life is a happy one. But deep down Samuel knows a teacher-student relationship cannot last. If anyone finds out about them, they'd both be in deep trouble. And why does Karen seem to be getting more and more horny lately?
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                          While all three neighbors are dealing with their own problems, a mysterious new problem will soon shake up all their lives. If their apartment building's elevator only goes up to the 6th floor... how come there are actually 7 floors when you count the windows outside? And how come nobody seems to live on mysterious 7th floor?
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                      Bright Sun Studios
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                     : None
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                      Version
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                     : 0.2
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                         Mystery, modern day, school, neighbors, succubus, demons, parallel world, city life, male protagonist, female protagonist, multiple protagonists, romance, love, dating, magic, masturbation, vaginal sex, boobs, sexting, lesbian, nude photos, enhanced arousal, magic arousal, nudist
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                         - 1920x1080 Full HD images
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                         - 3 romantic couples from which the story is told. This means there are 3 main POV characters and 3 side POV characters
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                         - Plenty of narrative choices for you to experience
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                         - Music
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                         - Both female and male POV characters
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                         - Love &amp; Personality stats for various characters in the game
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                         - Continued the story for all thee characters
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                         - Added the second Patreon Choice
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                         1- Extract to desired location.
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                     There are 3 major point of view characters. They all have a single romantic partner and sometimes for a very short time somethings gets told from the POV as well. There aren't really any other characters in the game yet, so I don't think you'll be overwhelmed by it. But if it works or not is up to the reader I think. Hopefully you'll enjoy it
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                     I do understand your concern and I thought some people might find this odd if you haven't been following my posts on Patreon (which I can't blame you for). I do have 5 projects in total, yes. 2 of those are finished however. That leaves 3 active projects. One of those (Their Beautiful World - Divinity) was liked well enough, but didn't do anything for my financially. As that projects is simply far too expensive (at least at the moment) to develop within support, I've decided to put that project on hold for at least a little while. I will get back to it within the next 2 months or so though (hopefully). That leaves HSCS and this game in active development. The reasons this entire project exists is because even HSCS really doesn't provide me with the support I need to continue developing it for much longer. I've gotten some feedback that focusing a little bit more on sex scenes instead of so much story might help, so that's why I started this projects. You'll see that it's a little different from my previous projects, but I'm sure people will still like it. I'm actually hoping people will really like it as if this projects doesn't provide me with any financial support either (which was the case with TBW - Divinity), I might have to cancel all my projects altogether somewhere in the future. So this project is kind of a last attempt at developing a project that is financially successful enough to support the other ones. We'll see how it goes. I do think I'll be able to provide an update for HSCS and this game about each month though, so you don't have to worry too much. Hopefully this explains the situation and if you have any other questions or concerns, just @ me in a comment here.
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                     Eccentric, unusual and quite charming!  I do hope you garner enough support to keep going with this.
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                     That's a bit sad to hear since I like most of your games
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                        Same faces i don't find attractive at all in every game. after blooming love i skip these games from this dev. If you don't have some creative skills to make different looking characters i have no interest about finding out if the Novel part of the VN is any good. Wish you all the best.
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                     I don't mind you not playing my games, but the characters don't look similar due to a lack of creativity. I just create characters that I find attractive and I certainly have a 'type', so all the character I create fall sort of in that category. I understand if you find that problematic though, so thanks for wishing me good luck despite not wanting to play the game
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                        That's a bit sad to hear since I like most of your games
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                        You say you will focus more on the sex scenes, but how so? Will there just be more of them? Higher quality and extended sex scenes? Or do you plan on making them kinkier/naughtier?
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                     There are more of them and they are longer than those in my other games (expect maybe the foursome/threesome in Blooming Love). They all feature at least one animation and some included some other images beside an animation. If they're of a higher quality is up to the reader I think.
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                     There is a bit less build up in this game though then in Blooming Love for example. There are 3 'couples'. One of them is already quite far into their relationship, so they are the ones who have sex scenes in this game. The other two don't start off as a couple/in a romantic relationship, but the thing between them is certainly already of a sexual nature. One couple includes a succubus, so it shouldn't be hard to figure out why there is something sexual there. And the last couple at the moment only know each other through sexting with each other and they don't actually know the real name/appearence of the other person.
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                        alot of content for a first release...i dont mind the faces..i really like the bodies though...have to admit a naive idiot succubus is a gal i could go for
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                     Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the game. If you come across any phrases in the game you think come off as wonky, feel free to point them out to me. I'm not a native English speaker (although I consider my ability to read and write in English quite sufficient), so in some cases it will either take a long time for me to realize something is off or I won't ever catch it at all as those phrases sound perfectly natural to me. But as long as they don't bother you to much, I suppose it isn't that big of an issue
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                        Ooo, I think I'm going to like this one.
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                     Yes, the other characters/couple will get special mechanics too. I call those 'Personality stats' and as you can see Karen is the only character who has hers implemented at the moment. Vivi will also have two stats (probably starting in version 0.2) that decide how scared she is for humans and how open she is about revealing her succubus side to other people. Vamp11 will also get personality stats, but those would be a bit spoilery to reveal at this point
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                        I do understand your concern and I thought some people might find this odd if you haven't been following my posts on Patreon (which I can't blame you for). I do have 5 projects in total, yes. 2 of those are finished however. That leaves 3 active projects. One of those (Their Beautiful World - Divinity) was liked well enough, but didn't do anything for my financially. As that projects is simply far too expensive (at least at the moment) to develop within support, I've decided to put that project on hold for at least a little while. I will get back to it within the next 2 months or so though (hopefully). That leaves HSCS and this game in active development. The reasons this entire project exists is because even HSCS really doesn't provide me with the support I need to continue developing it for much longer. I've gotten some feedback that focusing a little bit more on sex scenes instead of so much story might help, so that's why I started this projects. You'll see that it's a little different from my previous projects, but I'm sure people will still like it. I'm actually hoping people will really like it as if this projects doesn't provide me with any financial support either (which was the case with TBW - Divinity), I might have to cancel all my projects altogether somewhere in the future. So this project is kind of a last attempt at developing a project that is financially successful enough to support the other ones. We'll see how it goes. I do think I'll be able to provide an update for HSCS and this game about each month though, so you don't have to worry too much. Hopefully this explains the situation and if you have any other questions or concerns, just @ me in a comment here.
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                     Just wanted to let you know to check install spoiler . I know it is does not really matter to most all, but for the ones who look on how to install and play they will be a bit shocked to not find that specific EXE when they go to play unless they can locate the real one to start. Just keeping you on your toes have a great day and keep up good work.
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                        Question I did not see a reply about your spoiler on installation. Read it and see if what I read is what i thought since I did
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                     Thanks, I guess I forgot to alter the name of the .exe file in the install instructions. It's fixed now
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                        Sorry, I didn't phrase my question very well, I meant any plans for mother-daughter stuff in a future game?
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                     Can't say I think that far ahead. So I can't say for sure if one of my future games will feature mother-daughter incest. I do like the idea though as it's quite a unique pairing. Haven't really heard of any mother-daugther games
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                        What's the obsession with same-gender incest anyway? There's no such thing legally. Only heterosexual couplings between a few limited and defined sets of relatives which can theoretically produce children are defined as incest (and not codified in all countries either). Everything else is just pleasure, basically (as long as it's fully consensual of course!)
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                     sadly not.
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                     as long its considered as "sexual" act, a mother and a daughter couple create a incest couple anyway.
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                     incest is based on family relative, not on the sex gender or else.
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                     same family by blood = incest . whatever the activity behind as long its sexual themed.
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                     As the commentor above me already noted, any form of sexual relationship between family members is considered incest. You're right though that lesbian incest doesn't carry the risks (inbreeding) that caused incest to be looked down on by most people. It's still incest though. But in a away I guess that means lesbian incest is the best form of incest.
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                     The legality of the term depends on the country I think. In my country, girl-girl incest is still 'legally' called incest and for marriage and such you certainly still both need to legally declare that you are aware of your relationship with your partner. People would probably start crying 'sexism' and stuff if that wasn't the case.
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                     You are both correct and wrong here. Sure, daughter-mother relationships might not cary any penalty. But that doesn't mean it isn't legally defined as incest. Incest itself isn't a crime. It can have legal penalties attached in certain cases (as you mentioned, when inbreeding is involved). But that doesn't mean everything else is automatically not concidered incest. The definition of incest is simply a sexual relationship between two closely related family members. That certainly includes a mother-daughter relationship, even if you won't get legally punished for it.
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                        Can't say I think that far ahead. So I can't say for sure if one of my future games will feature mother-daughter incest. I do like the idea though as it's quite a unique pairing. Haven't really heard of any mother-daugther games
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                        You are both correct and wrong here. Sure, daughter-mother relationships might not cary any penalty. But that doesn't mean it isn't legally defined as incest. Incest itself isn't a crime. It can have legal penalties attached in certain cases (as you mentioned, when inbreeding is involved). But that doesn't mean everything else is automatically not concidered incest. The definition of incest is simply a sexual relationship between two closely related family members. That certainly includes a mother-daughter relationship, even if you won't get legally punished for it.
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                        But does this all really matter? I don't think so. I think the incest fetish isn't about the involved characters being at risk of legal punishment. I think it's about the fact that it's seen as wrong by most people and that you would have to keep it a secret. The risk of being caught and judged by other people for you love is what thrills people, not the risk of penalties. Incest by itself provides a romatnic barrier that the couple has to overcome. You automatically get a sort of 'love triumphs over all' sort of story in most games that include incest where the couple find that their love for each other is worth risking being discovered. Another part of incest that I think people enjoy (maybe wihout even realizing it) is that the characters share something deeper than simple romantic attraction. They usually have some sort of history together as family members. So in case of pornographic games, there is no reason to say a daughter-mother relationship shouldn't be called incest. It falls within the definition of the world and the thrill people get from such a relationship is still included in a mother-daughter pairing just as much as it is in a father-daughter pairing (at least I think so). Also... narratively it provides an easy explanation for future romantic characters to live together and interact a lot with each other (so the player can get an early feel for the chemestry between them) with it feeling odd or forced. But that's more of a writer benefit than a reader benefit I suppose
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                     Modern day incest is quite different and is viewed differently from it's perception ages ago. If you want to look back (and sorry if this is kinda too long ago) but at Egyptian, Greek, Roman and in some Medieval times it wasn't soo much frowned upon and you didn't hear stories of "regular people" engaging in it. Usually always nobles/wealthy and especially Royalty (Egypt has A LOT of it)(God's as well, those cheeky bastards) who wanted to continue their lines but preserve any wealth or power their families held. Incest worked more of an "arranged marriage" thing and the general idea that you're with someone that the family knows very well and you could personally trust. What I'm getting at is that there wasn't so much of the "Love" factor involved. Best example is the grandmother of Mithridantes VI of Pontus (Pontus is in modern day Turkey). She lived around 2nd century B.C. and was married three separate times. Her eldest brother became King after their father's death and so they married. Had several children and then he died. She married a second time. To her 2nd Eldest brother. Had children with him and he also died. Then she married for the last time. To her youngest brother with whom she had two children, one of them later becoming mother to Mithridantes. What are the chances that she was fully on-board with all those marriages and deeply loved each of her spouses? Obviously that's plausible however in such situation no one really cared about the "Love factor"  because she HAD to do it (back to arranged marriages) and was kinda like "Ok, I know these people very well. Better than some stranger".
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                     Now in modern times you wouldn't be forced into this (obviously some people still have arranged marriages, but not of the kind we are speaking of) and you normally wouldn't think of someone related to you being a better partner than a stranger. Modern times it's either pure animalistic lust between both parties or mutual romantic feelings that would drive someone towards incest. And since our society is so "advanced" at the moment, people know of the potential (but don't know that is NOT guaranteed) dangers of inbreeding, plus since it was ok back in ages of "barbarism" it's a taboo now. And also there's the feeling that if  such sexual fetish would be allowed to be explored people might go for and fight for the normalization of other fetishes where you aren't attracted to the "normal" (what I'm saying with this point is that there would be definitely some that would go on to say that if that is allowed we want other taboo things allowed as well, and where not talking about homosexual relationships here). I'd say that Dating My Daughter would be a perfect example of how modern day incest would look like (albeit less "romantic"). Lesbian incest is less unexpected and doesn't yield any future genetic weakening, but as you said it's still looked very much down upon.
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                     I've been busy with real stuff, so didn't have to dive in your fantasy world lately. At all. And by cross-over I don't mean sex scenes. Rather not with those. More like a common plot or a bbq or something where every one has fun in a lively mood (if they're all neighbors as the OP says)
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                        I've been busy with real stuff, so didn't have to dive in your fantasy world lately. At all. And by cross-over I don't mean sex scenes. Rather not with those. More like a common plot or a bbq or something where every one has fun in a lively mood (if they're all neighbors as the OP says)
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                     I don't think I fully understand what you're asking. Are you asking if the 3 separate couples/stories in this single game will meet? Because in that case, like I said, they already have. The various characters do all sorts of things together in the story (such as Zoe and Karen being in class together and walking to school and Grace, Vivi and Zoe hanging out together for a while in this new update).
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                     Pretty interesting beginning. Enjoyed those 2 chapters, maybe except sex scene with Samuel and Karen ( for me, they are too excited about that :evilsmile: )
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                     About 3 main POV + 3 side POV, it looks good and has a lot potential but dev should be careful and not overdo it coz sometimes simple mistakes can be understood wrongly and then reader has to go back to check what is all about
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                     it looks like POV Karen but is...
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                         "I'm playing with my pen as I listen to Mr. Morigan's explanation."
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                         "I don't know why he didn't come to school this morning with me and Zoe. They live together, so it's kind of odd that Zoe chose to walk with me instead of with Mr. Morigan."
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                         "It was quite a shock when I found out one my teachers lived only two doors away from me."
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                         "I've been trying to be on my best behavior in all his classes ever since as I don't want to get in trouble with him."
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                         "It was even weirder to find out Zoe is living with him. I don't know why or how yet though. I never got up the courage to ask Zoe about it. But I assume she either doesn't have any parents or she got taken away from them due to abuse."
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                         "But I guess you could do worse than Mr. Morigan as a guardian. He seems like a nice enough man. I bet Zoe is always careful with doing her homework though..."
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                         "Well... so am I. I'm scared Mr. Morigan will come to my apartment to force me to do his homework if I ever skip it. And I really don't want to be in such an awkward situation."
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                         "His currently class is a bit boring though. I wish I could talk to Vamp11 right now. She always seems to have something exciting going on."
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                     Quite unique story and that 3 PoV stuff. Maybe you can just let the name of the character stand in the top left corner? Or maybe add the option for it? I think there where a part were you are Zoe and she talks about Karen but the text say Zoe.. in the school if I remember correctly.
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                     Damn, you really love your female x female relationships :evilsmile:. No complains tho, kind sir/madam. Can I have more? Renders are nice as per usual. Please, a beg, make all the text for stuff like saving, preferences and below the text box BLACK. Honest to God, I'm either blind or you really can't see stuff. Bit of a unusual amount of typos or other grammatical errors. But hey, you might not be a native English speaker just like me, so no worries there. Don't know who makes or how you do your music, but MORE of Vivi's intro tune (From the scene where she meets The Cat)
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                     Showing a lot of promise young one! Keep up the good work
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                        P.S. Don't know whether to brings this to your attention or somehow to someone in Lewd Patcher. The patch seems a bit of in the dialogue. Maybe this is actually supposed to be like that, but everyone seems to not understand and feel weird about Samuel and Karen. Characters react with interest (and possibly confusion) to things like "Why are they living together. That's weird". With the patch they seem to still question the living arrangements, even tho in real life  18 year olds who are still attending school and living with parents, is the most common and normal thing ever. Character's seem to refer to Samuel (and Karen kinda too when talking to Zoe and Grace) as THAT guy who just happen's to live with Karen and be her teacher. It just seems to be so easier if everyone went "My friend's dad/father".
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                     You have a lot of interesting theories I see, which is good. Your P.S. section is a bit of interesting one, but the patch doesn't actually say anything strange. It isn't clearly explained in the game yet as it's only the beginning, but there are actually simple reasons for it.
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                         It's all about what the characters know about each other. Grace doesn't know Karen is Samuel's daughter, but through her arousal sensing ability she obviously does now they're fucking. So she just thinks it's a teacher fucking one of his students.
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                         Zoe does know that Karen is Samuel's daugther, but she doesn't know about them also being in a romantic relationship. So she just sees it as a normal father and daughter living together.
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                         As for Karen refering to her dad as 'Samuel' to Zoe, that wasn't accidental. It might look like a mistake, but it isn't. Well... I guess it is a mistake, but on the part of the character herself. You'll see this happing more in the future. Karen has gotten used to calling Samuel by his first name when they aren't alone together so they don't give away their secret when they want to be romantic in public. So this was sort of a minor slip up on Karen's part, but I can see how at the moment that would look like a mistake in the patch itself. Hopefully it'll be more clear in the story itself in the future.
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                         It can all get a bit confusing, I know. Especially know that Karen thinks Vivi is Grace's sister and Zoe think Vivi is Grace's cousin, it can all get a bit confusing. But that shows the difference between what the characters know about each other and what you as the reader know and the differences between those two.
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                         Another example of the reader knowing something that the character doesn't is Zoe's book. As a reader your probably suspect that the book is in fact real, but Zoe is full convinced in the story that the contents of the book are just made up. Luckily we have a succubus nearby who can clear that up for her in the near future)
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                        I love your different game, i finsih Blooming Love even if i i don't read all the text. Simply i'm french and translate all your text is very long and blown to translate.
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                        So, i have an unique question : You approach a pregnancy theme without enter inside (if i can say that).
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                        I don't find any game with this. Why ?
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                        I think this feature could be more interresting for the story (of this game or other future game)
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                     In this game, that isn't an option. Player choices are great, but as a developer you have to think about the impact such player choices would have on the story. And pregnancy is just has too big of a narrative impact as having a child is a major life decision (not to mention that with the incest patch, it'd be inbreeding. Of course that incest patch isn't an official part of the game, but still... I'd rather stay away from that). So that is why in purely narrative driven games I think most developers go for no pregnancy or a pregnancy that always happens (such as in one of my other games, Rosie's Innocence) in which you explore the effect of that pregnancy.
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                     Another reason why this doesn't usually happen is because of player expectation. This is really something you have to be aware of as a developer if you don't want to piss off a lot of people. When you playing a game and get the choice of cumming inside or not, nearly all games ignore the pregnancy risk of cumming inside. As a player you are sort of taught through playing all other games that the 'cumming inside' options is not related to pregnancy. So players who don't like pregnancy but do like creampies can still enjoy it. If a developer goes against this expectation, it can feel like a forced or accidental pregnancy. And that makes the pregnancy feel like a mistake on the player's part. Like you fucked up or something by getting someone pregnant while you don't want to.
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                     I'm certainly not against pregnancy though. The game I'm currently developing, High School Crush Simulator, actually features pregnancy, periods, birth control pills, etc. In that game having someone cum inside you does risk getting you pregnant if you're not on birth control pills. In HSCS pregnancy works as it's a much more open game and it makes clear from the start that pregnancy is a possibility in this game and it offers clear ways to avoid it.
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                     I suppose that feature could be include in linear game who the finality is the birth of a baby. Without make this feature a center of interest of this game of course. The aim is not to block a player but to confront a situation.
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                     This type of game could be a different ending (Birth, death, marriage, lonely finsih).
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                     Of course, pregnancy ask questions all along the periode begins to the conception (straight, incest (adopted daughter and father could be concerned by incest without the risk of consanguinity or adopted daughter and real brother for example (Without knowledge by adoption (plop twist)), by rape, accidentaly) until the term (miscarriage, birth, abortion) and also between (sex or not).
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                     I remember a game who i finish recently, Acting Lessons (It's in my top 10) but i'm shocked (at this instant) by the end that the creator makes us confront.
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                     In your game, it's rare, but you talk to the risk and imagine if the daughter is adopted without the father wants to talk about it (fertile mother). It's a mean to contourn difficulty.
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