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                        There is a 100% free alternative to Daz, called XNALara / XPS pose studio.    Thousands of free models, and very simple to use.   Very popular on DA.
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                         You will have 2 basic models (male and female) not a lot of morphs, not a lot of shaders, not a lot of light presets, not a lot of anything. What plugins you get some of them are locked and in need for a key to work to their designed potential. You do need a debit card for all purchases and you do not necessarily need pay pall or any third party payment options. You can't buy anything from them without a debit card. Also if you decide to buy something from them, check with your bank that they are aware of any transactions you may do with them now and in the future as my bank has blocked my card thinking this may be card theft. You will find plenty of resources for older models (V4, A4, G4 all the way up to Genesis models) on torrent sites and other sites that require only a free subscription to see links but the links will be to file-sharing services such as rapidshare, keep2share, etc. which will hinder your download speeds like you wouldn't believe. Sometimes the links will also be dead and you will rarely find sites that links you to googledrive or mega.
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                         In other words, if you want to start working with Daz3d, and if your machine allows it, then i recomend starting to create using the basic stuff that you get and play with the light settings. If your machine is mediocre than play with the 3Dlight render and if you have an awesome machine then you can try Iray. I recommend a good Nvidia gfx card with at least 4gb ram and a minimum of 16gb ram on your system. 3Delight will make heavy use of your CPU so in complex renders with lots of reflective surfaces and more light sources your system may crash (i managed to do that on my I7-7700K CPU) but, at the same time, 3Delight does not use your gfx card at all. So if you don't have a decent gfx card you will have to go to 3Delight. Iray will use both CPU and gfx card if your gfx card can take the load. There are a few plugins for Daz3D than can help you reduce the amount of memory needed for renders. But Iray is hard to master due to the fact that it simulates the way the professional photo cameras are working and you will need to learn a decent amount of stuff about that first in order to be able to light your renders. Otherwise, you will have renders with a lot of "artifacts" or noise that you will never be happy with. Of course, if you can buy lighting presets or if you can "find" them, that will make your life easier.
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                         Always consider a semi-professional photo editor for post-render finishing touches (photoshop should be fine). Some effects are easier to obtain by applying layers or masks on a rough render than rendering a high quality picture.
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                     Yes, it's possible to try to go the 'free stuff Daz route'.  There are a number of free resources out there that don't involve pirating.
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                     I visit renderosity.com and sharecg.com regularly.  They have a lot of freebies.  There is also this page:
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                        Not that i'm one to cost anyone money or even promote pirating on this here pirating site buuuuut if one happened to, oh I don't know ... stroll merrily upon a bay of pirates and browse a certain SuperBay forum they may stumble upon some pirate booty.
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                        Well, 3D booty that is.
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                        There is a 100% free alternative to Daz, called XNALara / XPS pose studio.    Thousands of free models, and very simple to use.   Very popular on DA.
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                     Interesting, never heard of this one. Will definitely check it out.
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                            You will have 2 basic models (male and female) not a lot of morphs, not a lot of shaders, not a lot of light presets, not a lot of anything. What plugins you get some of them are locked and in need for a key to work to their designed potential. You do need a debit card for all purchases and you do not necessarily need pay pall or any third party payment options. You can't buy anything from them without a debit card. Also if you decide to buy something from them, check with your bank that they are aware of any transactions you may do with them now and in the future as my bank has blocked my card thinking this may be card theft. You will find plenty of resources for older models (V4, A4, G4 all the way up to Genesis models) on torrent sites and other sites that require only a free subscription to see links but the links will be to file-sharing services such as rapidshare, keep2share, etc. which will hinder your download speeds like you wouldn't believe. Sometimes the links will also be dead and you will rarely find sites that links you to googledrive or mega.
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                            In other words, if you want to start working with Daz3d, and if your machine allows it, then i recomend starting to create using the basic stuff that you get and play with the light settings. If your machine is mediocre than play with the 3Dlight render and if you have an awesome machine then you can try Iray. I recommend a good Nvidia gfx card with at least 4gb ram and a minimum of 16gb ram on your system. 3Delight will make heavy use of your CPU so in complex renders with lots of reflective surfaces and more light sources your system may crash (i managed to do that on my I7-7700K CPU) but, at the same time, 3Delight does not use your gfx card at all. So if you don't have a decent gfx card you will have to go to 3Delight. Iray will use both CPU and gfx card if your gfx card can take the load. There are a few plugins for Daz3D than can help you reduce the amount of memory needed for renders. But Iray is hard to master due to the fact that it simulates the way the professional photo cameras are working and you will need to learn a decent amount of stuff about that first in order to be able to light your renders. Otherwise, you will have renders with a lot of "artifacts" or noise that you will never be happy with. Of course, if you can buy lighting presets or if you can "find" them, that will make your life easier.
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                            Always consider a semi-professional photo editor for post-render finishing touches (photoshop should be fine). Some effects are easier to obtain by applying layers or masks on a rough render than rendering a high quality picture.
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                     Thank you so much. This is the response i have been looking for. It gave me a overall picture on what to expect and be realistic. Faith in f95 restored.
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                     Any adult games using these models?? Would love to check them out!
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                        Back to the original question.
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                        Yes, it's possible to try to go the 'free stuff Daz route'.  There are a number of free resources out there that don't involve pirating.
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                        I visit renderosity.com and sharecg.com regularly.  They have a lot of freebies.  There is also this page:
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                        Pay attention to the usage rights of the stuff you download.  Some are unrestricted, others are personal use only, and the rest fall in between r.e. usage rights.
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                        Googling can find you a number of other files as well.
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                        As to whether it's possible to 'make do' on the free route, I think so but you will be a bit limited in characters, hair, wardrobe options and similar such.  Especially if you use older models such as the Victoria 4 era models.  Lots of 'free stuff' for V4, etc.
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                        Another place that you may fall short is in setpieces/locations.  With a bit of skill, you can find a number of royalty free images on the net, if you want to go the 'put character on top of background' route that is popular in RPGMaker, RenPy, etc. games, but if you want to 'natively render' the character in an environment, well your selection of environment/location models will be rather limited.
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                        Should you decide to start buying stuff from the Daz store, definitely get a Platinum Club membership for your first year, when Platinum Club goes on sale.  It usually goes on sale for 1/2 off for a couple of days every month or two...  This will open the door to a whole bunch of freebies via the Daz store throughout the course of the year.
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                     Thanks, this is absolutely for personal use only. Well, at least for now. Once i am confident with my skills, will move out of the ahoy route, but for now it seems to be the best route.
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                        Any adult games using these models?? Would love to check them out!
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                     A lot of comic books, fan fiction, and videos, but I don't know of any games made using XNALara.
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