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                      You play Taylor, an introverted 18 year old who is forced to live with his sister, Nikki, when they go away to the same college, due to a University housing error.  Taylor is a virgin and Nikki is kind of a slut.  Can she help get Taylor out of his shell and maybe help him with the ladies?  For Taylor's sake, let's hope so!​
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                     2020-03-05
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                     : 2020-03-05
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                      Version
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                     : 1.69
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                         3dcg, Anal sex, Bukkake, Cheating, Creampie, Exhibitionism, Group sex, Handjob, Incest, Interracial, Twins, Male protagonist, Masturbation, Milf, Mobile game, Oral sex, Romance, School setting, Vaginal sex, Voyeurism.
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                         1- Unzip the files.
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                         2- Start MySisterMyRoommateVXX.exe
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                         <b>
                          v1.69:
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                         New content after Ashley’s arrest, which will lead to all new endings. Who will Taylor end up with? The end will depend on you!
                         <br/>
                         Remade 507 early game renders
                         <br/>
                         588 renders for new storyline content
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                         New Main Menu screen
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                         Added music to the main menu and game
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                         <br/>
                         <b>
                          v1.0:
                         </b>
                         <br/>
                         - Our story concludes…
                         <br/>
                         - The morning after. Depending on what route you took in previous updates, that will mean different things
                         <br/>
                         - Taylor has to check out of the dorm with Jessica before they leave for Christmas Break
                         <br/>
                         - Taylor and Nikki go home for Christmas (with Molly if Taylor chose to date her)
                         <br/>
                         - It’s Christmas Day! The events that unfold will all depend on the choices made throughout the rest of the game
                         <br/>
                         - The largest release I’ve ever done at 366 renders, 4 potential sexy scenes, with 3 traditional style (stop motion) animations, and 1 video style animation
                         <br/>
                         <br/>
                         <b>
                          v14:
                         </b>
                         <br/>
                         - Our story continues...
                         <br/>
                         - How will Nikki and Taylor handle Ashley with a gun?
                         <br/>
                         - The aftermath of the hostage situation, and a time jump to the trial and the end of the semester
                         <br/>
                         - How will Taylor handle the verdict?
                         <br/>
                         - And of course, most major events that happen will be impacted by decisions you've made within this update or the past updates.
                         <br/>
                         - 330 beautifully done renders, 4 potential sexy scenes with 3 animations
                         <br/>
                         <br/>
                         <b>
                          v13
                         </b>
                         <br/>
                         - Our story continues...
                         <br/>
                         - Taylor and Nikki wake up naked together and determine how they will handle what happened last night. Taylor will rush off to class, where Molly will ask an important question. Then you will have a choice what Taylor does for the afternoon: Go to Cory's Volleyball tournament or do Professor Katcher a favor. After that, D'Brickashaw invites Taylor to a party, and then back to the dorm we'll go!
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                         - Of course, most things that happen will be impacted by decisions you've made within this update or the past updates.
                         <br/>
                         - 260 beautifully done renders, 4 potential sexy scenes with 2 animations
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                         <b>
                          v12
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                         <br/>
                         - Our story continues...
                         <br/>
                         - Taylor has a busy day ahead of himself.  He has an appointment to take pictures with Professor Katcher.  And he also promised Molly she could paint a picture of him for her art class.  And, of course, there will be a few adventures along the way!
                         <br/>
                         - Updated the side image sprites.  I put them in a while ago, and liked the concept, but wasn't crazy about the images.  I updated them so they look a lot better now.
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                         - 218 beautifully done renders, 4 potential sexy scenes with 3 animations
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                          v10 Changelog:
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                         - Our story continues...
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                         - After a crazy weekend, it's time for Taylor to go back to class, where he'll get a text from Mrs. Sollain. She needs his help moving furniture at her house. What happens from there is up to you.
                         <br/>
                         - The decisions you made in the past (and in this version) will impact the story you experience when you play through this update
                         <br/>
                         - 205 new image renders and a couple animations, making this update the largest one I've done yet!
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                          v9 Changelog:
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                         <br/>
                         - Our story continues...
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                         - A new day of content is added - It's Sunday and Nikki is board at work so she invites Taylor and Molly to hang out at the beach during a rainstorm... And they get to drinking....
                         <br/>
                         - New character, Sarah, the beach bartender added
                         <br/>
                         - The decisions you made in the past (and in this version) will impact the story you experience when you play
                         <br/>
                         - 178 new image renders and a couple animations
                         <br/>
                         - There was a slight glitch in the coding I did from the last version.  If Taylor was inconsistent with his decision to watch Nikki with other guys (said yes early in the game, and then changed his mind in V.8, it messed up one of the variables (that I needed to call back to in this version).  It's obviously since been fixed, so, if you that sounds like something you did, you may want to load a save to just before the hot tub scene where you have the decision to let Nikki and D'Brickashaw join you - otherwise the dialogue in this version won't make sense.  The number of people this impacts will be small, since I assume most people would be consistent with those decisions.
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                          v8 Change-Log:
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                         - Clarified the relationship between Nikki and Taylor so they are childhood best friends. This caused
                         <b>
                          old saves to not work anymore, so you’ll have to start a new game
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                         . Unintended consequence that no one is happy about ☹
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                         - Once you get back to where the we left off:
                         <br/>
                         - Our story continues…
                         <br/>
                         - It’s Saturday, so it’s the day Taylor has to tutor Cory, but after last night’s fiasco in the restaurant, he’s not sure how the session will go.
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                         - Taylor takes a shopping trip with Nikki and Molly, then will have the choice how to spend the afternoon.
                         <br/>
                         - Then the night will finish up at a party, where the ending depends on the decisions made earlier in the day.
                         <br/>
                         - 160 new renders for V.8 content
                         <br/>
                         - I went back and cleaned up some particularly grainy or bad renders from early in the game.
                         <br/>
                         - Added three new animations to the first sex scene with Mrs. Sollain from the first release demo – 23 new renders.
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                         - All the main characters now have side images on the screen when they are talking.
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                         - 160 new V.8 renders + 23 V.1 updated renders = 183 total new renders in this release.
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                          v7: Changelog:
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                         -Our story continues and sets up a lot of important events that will happen in the future.
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                         -Our day will start with a meeting with Professor Katcher to go over the pictures that Taylor sent last night. After that, we'll head back to the dorm to talk to Nikki, and see where things go from there...
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                         -We have a new character introduced - Chelsea. She's Cory's roommate and volleyball partner.
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                         -We'll also see an old friend from the original demo ;-)
                         <br/>
                         -This update has 3 sexy scenes, and 1 of those has animation. (Including a scene with Nikki - which is why this update is here.)
                         <br/>
                         -99 new image renders
                         <br/>
                         -I fixed an issue with the previous versions where you would have to copy old saves into a new save folder. Sumodeine was changing the build name with every update, which messed up the save folder, so new saves from the last version should transfer over on their own from now on. Let me know if this doesn't work.
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                          v6
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                         :
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                         -Our story continues...
                         <br/>
                         -202 New Image Renders
                         <br/>
                         -3 Different Endings, depending on your choices from both this update and the previous update
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                         -Each ending will have its own “happy ending” (with animations), as well as another sex scene that everyone will experience
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                         -Fixed a couple minor glitches from previous versions, which should not impact old saves.
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                          v5
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                         -Our Story Continues: New scenes and storylines as Taylor's relationship with Molly, Nikki, and Ashley continue to develop.
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                         -A new character is introduced: Skylar
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                         -While there is only one path in this update, there is a choice that will impact the future storyline that Taylor will experience. Old saves should work with this update (yay!).
                         <br/>
                         -Added the option to skip the Nikki/Grant Blowjob Scene at the party on the first day of college. While it is important to the overall plot for Taylor to know Nikki is a slut, I do understand that not everyone wanted to see it and some are sensitive to things like that. With Cory telling Taylor about it later in the game, I decided I'd give the option for players to not see it if they didn't want to. I probably should have added that option a couple updates ago, but I kept on forgetting.
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                         -Fixed the spelling of "sexiled"
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                         -125 New Image Renders &amp; 4 Animations
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                          v4
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                         -Taylor’s story progresses
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                         -First day of classes – new character (Professor Katcher) introduced
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                         -A date with Molly, a date with Cory, and a potential encounter with Jessica if Taylor chose her for a date earlier in the game. If Taylor chose Cory for a date earlier, and this Cory date goes well, then he will have a happy ending to his date. If Taylor has not gone on a date with Cory in the past, then he will experience the “first date” with Cory from a couple updates ago.
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                         -162 image renders with 2 potential sex scenes (with animations).
                         <br/>
                         -Using old saves will probably cause glitches, so I recommend starting a new game. Sorry guys. I know how frustrating that can be. I’m really trying NOT to go back and alter the old code, but in order for the current game to work like I want it to, it had to be done.
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                          v3:
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                         -Our story progresses – it’s the day before classes start and Taylor doesn’t have anything to do.
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                         -New character, Ashley, introduced.
                         <br/>
                         -First date with Ashley. How the date ends will depend upon how well you paid attention early in the day.
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                         -Sex Scene Animations!!! They aren’t perfect, but they are there. And right now, only the latest scene(s) are animated. I do intend on going back and adding them into the previous scenes, but that will be a small update in the future.
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                         -112 new image renders in this new update.
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                          v2:
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                         -New scoring system - You're decisions will impact whether Taylor is a Gentleman or a Deviant. This will ultimately change future interaction choices with other characters.
                         <br/>
                         -New Character Introduced - Cory is a hot student athlete that Taylor is tutoring. Can he figure out a way to seduce her or will he be an awkward mess?
                         <br/>
                         -Three dates to choose from - Should Taylor ask out Molly (the innocent girl from Iowa), Jessica (the RA), or Cory (the student athlete)? The choice is yours!
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                         -All the while, how will Taylor and Nikki's relationship progress?
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                    Text based, Real porn, old women and oversized titty games are a big no no for me.
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                        What's the point? I'm playing this "game" for a simple reason. So why is sex the reward? I'm slowly finding myself hating these Dating my Daughter style games.
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                     People play these games differently.  The people that play DMD like seeing the story (although the last few updates he did have very shitty writing and build up imo) and the romance unfold.  I think it makes them feel more invested into the game that way.
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                     No, but well they are quite fit to be fair. Musclegirls i find gross personally
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                        Not my thing, so I have never actively looked for it, but you're probably right.
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                        You can get a bunch of thicc girls, I guess, but that's not exactly chubby nor particularly realistic in most cases.
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                     Mostly it's girls with mega boobs and a big ass and a 2 inch waistline. So, Nah, not really realistic chubby wise.
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                     That's what I don't get. You'd think being fit and having some muscles would be that view. It's what most people expect from guys. But for some reason not from women. I just don't get it. Having a strong, athletic female seems far more appealing to me me than a... I don't even know what to call it. Round? Round women? Average? Slender but not muscularly defined. Supermodels. Like, sure, they're tall, slender and have sexy, long legs. But there's nothing else. Just a flat belly. Not an ab to be seen. Such a shame.
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                        Not a very good example. While Witcher 3 does have excellent writing there is
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                        That's what I don't get. You'd think being fit and having some muscles would be that view. It's what most people expect from guys. But for some reason not from women. I just don't get it. Having a strong, athletic female seems far more appealing to me me than a... I don't even know what to call it. Round? Round women? Average? Slender but not muscularly defined. Supermodels. Like, sure, they're tall, slender and have sexy, long legs. But there's nothing else. Just a flat belly. Not an ab to be seen. Such a shame.
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                     Sorry, I didn't understand what you were trying to say there? Did it work for you or it didn't? What was not the scene?
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                        Meh, Play enough of the Renpy games and you realize everyone of them uses similar assets. I think it's simply down to which licenses people are willing to pay for when it comes to the assets than trying to copy them from another renpy based game. It's just how it is. Wouldnt put too much weight on complaining about it really.
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                     Nothing wrong with vanilla if it's done well.
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                        I choose to be hopeful though. I believe that a vast majority of people like fit babes. It's just that our community of muscle lovers has no good artists or developers that want to dedicate their time to making shit for us. Yeah, that must be it. It must be. Right? Right? Clearly that's it. Tell that the case. :'(
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                     I mean there are good artists, they just don't seem to make games. The situation is compounded by the fact that a lot of patreon devs use daz3d, which apparently isn't very suited for creating good-looking(!) athletic females (or maybe it just takes a lot of work). Unlike the ever popular incest genre you can't just take a variation of Victoria 7 or whatever and introduce her as your mom to instantly make it fetish.
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                     Wimen today is formed by media, gay designers that prefer the figures of young boys rather than natural women. This is not a stab at gay people, just saying.
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                        Nothing wrong with vanilla if it's done well.
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                        I mean there are good artists, they just don't seem to make games. The situation is compounded by the fact that a lot of patreon devs use daz3d, which apparently isn't very suited for creating good-looking(!) athletic females (or maybe it just takes a lot of work). Unlike the ever popular incest genre you can't just take a variation of Victoria 7 or whatever and introduce her as your mom to instantly make it fetish.
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                     Well if you look at Patreon, there is good artists there too. I think a lot of the problems, if you can even call it a problem, steem from creators for most parts want to do it on their own. Although it would make much more sense if you good at make a game, but suck at graphics you would outsource, co-op, or just hire a graphic artist for the project. But then again you would have to share the income too.
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                        Nothing wrong with vanilla if it's done well.
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                     Eh, not a big fan of vanilla. Too boring. If it has good art or if it's mixed with other fetishes, such as straight shota, I can enjoy it, but most of the time I steer clear. I prefer me some rape and corruption over vanilla any day.
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                        You may not be too far off with that.
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                        I mean there are good artists, they just don't seem to make games. The situation is compounded by the fact that a lot of patreon devs use daz3d, which apparently isn't very suited for creating good-looking(!) athletic females (or maybe it just takes a lot of work). Unlike the ever popular incest genre you can't just take a variation of Victoria 7 or whatever and introduce her as your mom to instantly make it fetish.
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                        Wimen today is formed by media, gay designers that prefer the figures of young boys rather than natural women. This is not a stab at gay people, just saying.
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                     I dont think developers drawing inspiration from communities and forums as F95zone and others alike it is bad. I think it's a good thing if a dev takes some of the feedback from a forum like this and takes a second look at the game that person is creating and see if it's possible or if it could enhance the game in some way. Cause a lot of the feedback on these forums are quite good after you sort through the bullshit. Some people got good pointers imo.
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                        Eh, not a big fan of vanilla. Too boring. If it has good art or if it's mixed with other fetishes, such as straight shota, I can enjoy it, but most of the time I steer clear. I prefer me some rape and corruption over vanilla any day.
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                     Not exactly a fan of rape, at least not the ordinary kind, but corruption is always a plus.
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                        Funny that you should mention straight shota, as that is rarely done well in western games.
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                        He also used the words beautiful girls. Which is not what the one i refer to is.
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                        Sorry, I didn't understand what you were trying to say there? Did it work for you or it didn't? What was not the scene?
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                        If you replaced the original script.rpy file in the subfolder named "game" inside your game's root folder and started the game, then you should have seen an extra image and a few extra lines in the scene in Nikki's bedroom. The one where she is wearing a towel.
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                        If you put that file in a wrong folder, then it can not work. You have to open the "game" subfolder where the original script.rpy file is located and replace the file with the one inside the attached 7z file. You'll need 7Zip or WinRAR archiver to extract it from there.
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                     everything is fine! with your script, the scene turned out,thank you
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                        That's what I don't get. You'd think being fit and having some muscles would be that view. It's what most people expect from guys. But for some reason not from women. I just don't get it. Having a strong, athletic female seems far more appealing to me me than a... I don't even know what to call it. Round? Round women? Average? Slender but not muscularly defined. Supermodels. Like, sure, they're tall, slender and have sexy, long legs. But there's nothing else. Just a flat belly. Not an ab to be seen. Such a shame.
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                     That's because straight men aren't attracted to the same things as straight women, so the expectations are different.  What you're describing as your ideal woman is very masculine and wouldn't be considered attractive to most straight men.  Besides, the women in Dreams of Desire are clearly in better shape than the average woman off the street.  Other than the younger sister, who is fit but slender, they all look like they spend hours in the gym every day.  They DO have abs, and clearly defined athletic builds.  But it sounds like you're more into the sister from Battle of the Bulges.
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                        That's because straight men aren't attracted to the same things as straight women, so the expectations are different.  What you're describing as your ideal woman is very masculine and wouldn't be considered attractive to most straight men.
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                     Not at all. A woman isn't masculine just because she works out and has a fit body. I completely disagree with this statement. Not that I'd mind a masculine woman. I do like me some tomboys.
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                        Besides, the women in Dreams of Desire are clearly in better shape than the average woman off the street.  Other than the younger sister, who is fit but slender, they all look like they spend hours in the gym every day.  They DO have abs, and clearly defined athletic builds.  But it sounds like you're more into the sister from Battle of the Bulges.
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                     Don't know what Dreams of Desire has anything to do with this. I never said anything against it.
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                     And clearly you haven't read my posts if you think the girls from Battle of the Bulges is what I'm after. I stated the exact opposite of that. Don't make assumptions when the facts are right there.
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                        I wouldn't neccesarily considdr someone to like a big ass "weird" as it is the most common fetish among all others in today's world. I like a woman with abs...a little...but I'd prefer without honestly. It just comes off as too masculine. A toned stomach is a very good healthy middle for me imo.
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                        Not at all. A woman isn't masculine just because she works out and has a fit body. I completely disagree with this statement. Not that I'd mind a masculine woman. I do like me some tomboys.
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                     I didn't say a woman is masculine because she is fit.  You said you want muscles.  Most "fit" women are not muscular.  It's not the natural state of a woman's body to build muscle, especially in the upper body, even when they work out regularly.  That's why it is considered masculine when a woman has extra muscle, because those traits generally belong to men, and most straight men find that unattractive. Whether or not you disagree with it is irrelevant.
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                        Don't know what Dreams of Desire has anything to do with this. I never said anything against it.
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                     I meant Big Brother.  My mistake.  Which is what started you on "muscle girls".  And clearly what you're stating is contradictory to what exists in these games.  The women in 90% of these games are not average women by any standards.  They are fit and athletic, but you're saying that it's the "darkest timeline" and you want a girl with muscles.  So, one can only conclude that you are in fact looking for more muscle bound women than what exists in these games.  Which is fine.  You have every right to not like what the majority of straight men like.  It just seems odd that you act like something is wrong with everyone else when you are clearly in the minority.
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                        I didn't say a woman is masculine because she is fit.  You said you want muscles.  Most "fit" women are not muscular.  It's not the natural state of a woman's body to build muscle, especially in the upper body, even when they work out regularly.  That's why it is considered masculine when a woman has extra muscle, because those traits generally belong to men, and most straight men find that unattractive. Whether or not you disagree with it is irrelevant.
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                     I think we have different definitions of muscular. I consider a toned woman to still be muscular. Like I said, I'm not asking for roided out monsters. Just clearly noticeable defined lines on their abdomen, arms and legs.
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                        I meant Big Brother.  My mistake.  Which is what started you on "muscle girls".  And clearly what you're stating is contradictory to what exists in these games.  The women in 90% of these games are not average women by any standards.  They are fit and athletic, but you're saying that it's the "darkest timeline" and you want a girl with muscles.  So, one can only conclude that you are in fact looking for more muscle bound women than what exists in these games.  Which is fine.  You have every right to not like what the majority of straight men like.  It just seems odd that you act like something is wrong with everyone else when you are clearly in the minority.
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                     First of all, I feel like you're taking my darkest timeline comments too seriously. I'm just messing around. Though I would prefer more fit women.
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                     While the ladies in BB aren't bad, I wouldn't call them all that fit or athletic. I consider that average, because that looks to me like an average physique of someone who does some basic exercises just to keep in shape. I want more women like Sabia and Neve from Kingdom of Deception. Women who clearly train, but aren't as muscular as, say, wrestlers. And if those kinds of chicks aren't attractive to straight men, then yeah, I'm gonna think they're weird. I'm allowed to. It just sounds wrong to me.
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                     Again, you're throwing around words like ''majority'' and ''minority''. Either give me scientific proof, or some kind of detailed article about it or stop talking like this is all fact. You don't know the mind of every straight man out there.
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                     Now, if you wanna continue this pointless discussion I'll be happy to oblige, but I'd prefer we move it somewhere else so as not to spam this thread any more.
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                     The more visible muscles a woman have the more masculine they appear though. I think, most guys like wimen soft. With soft I don't mean a mountain of lard, eventhough there is that whole feeder fetish
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                     So there is extremes on both end of the scale. You can be fit and in shape, even though you got curves though.
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                     There isn't really any norm though, because different parts of the world, cultures, races and ethnicity got different perception of what is nice and so on. Just settle with there is differences
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                        The evidence is everywhere that porn exists.  Look at almost every game on this site, you will see generally the same type of women.  Look at what type of women are in the overwhelming majority of porn videos, and you have your answer.  If the majority of straight men were not attracted to that type of woman, they would find women who fit the preferred type, because it wouldn't sell otherwise.
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                     I don't think that really proves anything. If anything it just means I'm a bit more picky than most people. Which I gladly admit. I am a shallow individual. Minor imperfections can often turn me off. I still play most of these games though and enjoy them. And yet you can't add me to your statistic of ''straight men don't like muscle'' because of that. Who's to say a lot of people who enjoy these games aren't just like me? They just keep quiet about it. Or maybe the vast majority are just okay with whatever they get. Average, fit, plump, whatever. But just because I prefer fit and athletic doesn't mean I don't like the rest. I'd still bang a supermodel. Most men might feel the same about muscle girls. I don't know and I don't claim to know.
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                     I was asking for proof more along the lines of a survey or something. Which still isn't very accurate, but I'd take it. Doesn't matter.
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                     Honestly don't even know what was the point of this conversation any more. Or why you responded. Even if you are completely correct, I would still consider it weird that men aren't attracted to fit, muscular babes. It's just such a weird thing to not be attracted to. But hey, what do I know? I think people not liking rape porn is weird.
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                        The evidence is everywhere that porn exists.  Look at almost every game on this site, you will see generally the same type of women.  Look at what type of women are in the overwhelming majority of porn videos, and you have your answer.  If the majority of straight men were not attracted to that type of woman, they would find women who fit the preferred type, because it wouldn't sell otherwise.
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                     Yeah but porn is not reality. The danger today is kids grow up watch porn on the internet and think that is how it is. Porn is little more than make believe. The actress's in porn is not the ones you got to bed with at night (if you in a relationship, married etc).
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                        Yeah but porn is not reality. The danger today is kids grow up watch porn on the internet and think that is how it is. Porn is little more than make believe. The actress's in porn is not the ones you got to bed with at night (if you in a relationship, married etc).
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                     You're right, porn is not reality.  But it does represent the ideal, and it is a business.  If you're talking about what most people find most attractive, porn is a very good indicator, because they are concerned primarily with making a profit.  It's just like any other business really.  They try to appeal to the widest audience possible to make the most money possible.  That doesn't always guarantee the best product, or satisfy the people on the margins, but the bottom line is all that really matters.  Of course there are fetish's and niches, they just aren't as prevalent because they don't appeal to as many people.
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                        I was asking for proof more along the lines of a survey or something. Which still isn't very accurate, but I'd take it. Doesn't matter.
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                     Okay, maybe I did take your "darkest timeline" thing too seriously.  I think it's pretty clear you aren't finding the type of woman you wish would be represented in most these games, otherwise you wouldn't have felt the need to comment about it.  Which indicates to me that most people aren't looking for that, or more games would be created to fill that particular niche. Also, I agree that if you're talking about what type of women men would actually have sex with in real life, that is an entirely different discussion.  I think most men won't turn down a willing sex partner regardless of whether or not they meet the man's fantasy ideal.
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                        You're right, porn is not reality.  But it does represent the ideal, and it is a business.
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                     Actually it doesn't. If you look at like difference between western porn and like asian porn. Even difference between US porn and Euro porn. The ideal changes around the world, and the world is becoming more and more multi cultural.
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                        Okay, maybe I did take your "darkest timeline" thing too seriously.  I think it's pretty clear you aren't finding the type of woman you wish would be represented in most these games, otherwise you wouldn't have felt the need to comment about it.
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                     It's not that I'm not finding the type of women I like. More that I'm not finding enough of the type of women I like. But at the same time I'm never really satisfied. There's plenty of rape and corruption out there and yet I still don't think that's enough either. Still comment about wanting more. That's just the kind of dude I am. And don't even get me started on the lack of fit babes getting raped in porn. Now that's just tragic.
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                        Hey guys - I've been lurking around f95 for a while (under a different name) and decided to try my hand at making a game.  I posted this demo on reddit last night and was actually kind of surprised to log on here tonight and see my game on here so quickly.
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                        I do have a vision for the story of the game and sex with Mom's friend (the lady with the saggy tits) is there for a reason and will further Taylor's relationship with Nikki, as well as give Taylor some confidence.  Also, just because I said that sex won't come as easy, it doesn't mean it will be a grind or tease either.  It means there won't be a girl that jumps into bed with you without you even trying in every update.  In the future, it will take making some right choices and saying the right things in conversations to seduce a girl.
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                        Actually it doesn't. If you look at like difference between western porn and like asian porn. Even difference between US porn and Euro porn. The ideal changes around the world, and the world is becoming more and more multi cultural.
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                        I do have a vision for the story of the game and sex with Mom's friend (the lady with the saggy tits) is there for a reason and will further Taylor's relationship with Nikki, as well as give Taylor some confidence.  Also, just because I said that sex won't come as easy, it doesn't mean it will be a grind or tease either.  It means there won't be a girl that jumps into bed with you without you even trying in every update.  In the future, it will take making some right choices and saying the right things in conversations to seduce a girl.
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                     I'd prefer you didn't use her at all but that's just me. Probably not just me but whatever. I'd for sure opt for a model change.
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                    Text based, Real porn, old women and oversized titty games are a big no no for me.
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                        You're right, porn is not reality.  But it does represent the ideal, and it is a business.  If you're talking about what most people find most attractive, porn is a very good indicator, because they are concerned primarily with making a profit.  It's just like any other business really.  They try to appeal to the widest audience possible to make the most money possible.  That doesn't always guarantee the best product, or satisfy the people on the margins, but the bottom line is all that really matters.  Of course there are fetish's and niches, they just aren't as prevalent because they don't appeal to as many people.
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                        What's the point? I'm playing this "game" for a simple reason. So why is sex the reward? I'm slowly finding myself hating these
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                        I do have a vision for the story of the game and sex with Mom's friend (the lady with the saggy tits) is there for a reason and will further Taylor's relationship with Nikki, ...
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                     I for one feel raped. One moment I (as MC) get an image of young attractive sister flashing her privates, burning it in my memory, and no doubt going to bed with expectations of some sweet dreams about the subject. And before that has any chance to happen, the door gets kicked in, some sex-hungry drunken woman (not even MILFy type!) barges in, flashes bright light in my eyes and has her way with my disoriented self, before I fully realize what's happening. I know the dialog doesn't say that, but that's exactly what happened, and that's not how my sweet dreams were supposed to go! On the other hand, I do believe that after getting some serious long-time counseling, and sister giving me big emotional support all the way, it should bring us closer.
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