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                     Guys, i really like this game, nergal and wootch versions, but the art don't get into always, so i'm thinking in make a version in renpy, like a visual novel and 3D models, maybe my version never will be 100% realesed but will be free because i'll take it like a project to learn and improve in renpy and 3d models. Here i will let you some models and i'll wait some advices or corrections, all will be taked.
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                        Just some small suggestions here
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                        I like the MC; looks cute and his face is nice unlike a lot of other 3D MC that seems silly, selfish or both (well to me at least lol).
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                        For mom I would make her hair more yellow-ish.
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                        Lastly I would make the eye color same for both (you choose the one :winkytongue
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                     Thanks for your suggestions, now i'm rendering Mom again with her hair more yellow-ish, also she and her son will have the same eye color. I think blue will go fine with them.
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                        i agree with Mirror_Q, mom should have more yellow-ish hair. shes not that old! other then that both ladies looks nice.
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                        will the game only have the boy or will you include the tall girl that nergal removed?
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                        sister should not have that large boobs, size like D in "DmD" game for variety purpose!
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                     Hair color is done, in a couple of hours maybe I will upload the new render and with luck all of you will liked.
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                     That girl will be in the game, the thing is, how put it in the game, take the wootch's path or make a different story. You can help me there because I'm not really good.
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                     Sister will have small boobs in comparison for her age, still growing up.
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                        everything is better with Ren'Py :FeelsGoodMan:
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                     I can't say no to that. If you have some ideas or something, tell us. This will be like a community game.
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                        MC is too young for me, I would not play this.
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                     say to you, this game always was about shota, lolis and milfs, when nergal start doing her version, she leave the loli path but the original game was a kid like 12 years more or less fuck*ng milfs and a little girl in the park.
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                        I really like it, waiting for the other females, I think that Ms Amos need his Yelllow topless dress, and be more busty.
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                        One question, same history or you gonna change it?
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                     I will upload more females in this days, is a little hard to me render because this bodies are really monstrous in a good way, Big boobs, big asses and cost me a lot the cloths fits in the bodies.
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                     I will see for a dress maybe that make the things easiest, she actually is really busty, i will put a side render and you say me if small for you.
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                       The most important question, I was thinking in take the better things from the nergal and wootch versions and then see to where lead us that or maybe do a other story, where all of you can participate and give ideas or suggestions.
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                        Thanks for your comment, actually i'm like a kid with ren'py, still playing a little, but like this game is a "hobby" to me, I think not will be a problem, is not like I taking pledges. In my country is no much problem loli content, no instead porn with real childs, that will be fine.
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                     i think you should stick with the main idea, boy accident, get special ability.
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                     Nessa will realize that, and will try to find this boy. but its not easy as the boy uses his powers all the time,
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                     Nessa in her weaken state will be an easy pray for all the horny bastards out there....
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                        I will upload more females in this days, is a little hard to me render because this bodies are really monstrous in a good way, Big boobs, big asses and cost me a lot the cloths fits in the bodies.
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                     It would be good, and maybe some fresh ideas make this interesting. Loli? no please, could be busty teens like the sister or in Nergal version Dizzy and also Neala, and a second male? was rejected by so many fans, take note, but its just my opinion in the end. I will stay active with this project, go forward!
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                        I was talking about for others to play, some will only play if Loli has an opt out feature like with NTR and other fetishes.
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                     Now i get it, is an option, I realized no all the people have the same fetiches, some games have bestiallity and give you and option not see that.
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                        i think you should stick with the main idea, boy accident, get special ability.
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                        but I dont care about the parallel world.
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                        I think the ability should be connected to Nessa. somehow.
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                        each time he uses it, they connect, Nessa can see what the boy is doing.
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                        Nessa will grow weaker and more "sensible" every time the boy uses his powers,
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                        Nessa will realize that, and will try to find this boy. but its not easy as the boy uses his powers all the time,
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                        Nessa in her weaken state will be an easy pray for all the horny bastards out there....
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                     Actually is a good idea, and the other world never has something interesting, why you need other world when you have tons of womans in your city.
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                        It would be good, and maybe some fresh ideas make this interesting. Loli? no please, could be busty teens like the sister or in Nergal version Dizzy and also Neala, and a second male? was rejected by so many fans, take note, but its just my opinion in the end. I will stay active with this project, go forward!
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                     The Neala path will be there, like in wootch version if we take baka idea like a path. Theres not will be loli there, but deefinitly teenagers super slutties.
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                        mah boi this is gold, the characters are looking fantastic ( if i had to say something maybe is to put some different hair style in the mc something more fuzzy would be more close to the original but the color you put was even better than the original, and for amos i would sugest you to use something curlier or crispier)
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                        there are some black girls in my new life from beggar of the net that could be a good referece for you for ms amos hair
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                     Tags, i really don't thinked about that, because I see people don't like somethings, so, i will pretend make a game with all the fetish we can find but all the people like or not bother much, loli is out, bestiallity too, pregnant? I don't think will be a problem with that. Beggar have great womans, i will try to see what i can improve comparing.
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                        lets not jump ahead of time. i think its better to let OP start with it, and after each release we can discuss what can be next or not. if we put too much pressure it can make OP stressful and then nothing gets done. first he need to make the prologue, and thats almost identical to the original, up to the accident. then we will get more ideas and give suggestions.
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                     You're right, take a time, and see how advance, mean time i will share the models and try to improve them, change clothes, hair and more, all of you take note about your ideas and see them in a future.
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                        You could greatly improve Ms Amos by using Monique 7.
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                        Charming, i will look for her, and the hair style is just perfect.
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                        Hahaha, MC always have it a huge dick, that's what womans see in him the first time and get shocked, but can look for a better size, just need something to guide me.
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                     If you have to age him for some, but he has to have the magic meat stick. That's  what gets all the ladies to want him so bad. Thats the story, and please get rid of the other world. He could just get visited in a dream by an angel (that really is a succubus in disguise) Well here a big thumbs up!!!!
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                     You can even create the story with amos daughter,she was one of the main character due her amos was introduced to MC but she was totally ignored.
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                        Dreams of Desire de LewdLab has good art to inspire some models, also Dual Family use models pretty fine from Gumdrop games, see it can help you and of course take your time, you are starting aniway look the movement that you do with this awesome idea best of the luck for you in this project
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                     I play all the games you say it and i'm agree, they could be a good inspiration. Thanks to all of you for the suggestions. I not promess a game in the mean time but I'll try to give an update almost everyday.
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                        You can even create the story with amos daughter,she was one of the main character due her amos was introduced to MC but she was totally ignored.
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                        unlike wootch and nergal,you can create a story where amos is sexually frustrated and desperate due to useless boyfriend and on the other hand MC and amos daughter will get intimate with each other and MC being magnetic pervert(lol) makes amos daughter more and more involved in being intimate until amos finds both of them doing it.
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                        and due to sexual frustration amos gets sexually attracted to MC and then the path of being voilated by MC will start...
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                        later their will be lot of space for being in love or being total pet of MC for amos plus Daughter and MOM threesome scene for Amos will also be open...:FeelsGoodMan:
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                     Indeed, is interesting and almost complete, the game don't have a demo and nothing so, anything can happen, maybe like a side story in the same game, but the amos daughter will be changed a bit and maked a little more bigger because no much people is into loli.
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                     Better the second one for two reasons, the MC in the original game was brunette so for a referense to the fist game keep that in comun, now the second one penis would be nice, is big and the milfs and teens who gonna saw him, has the point to be amused or shock in the first moment
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                        Better the second one for two reasons, the MC in the original game was brunette so for a referense to the fist game keep that in comun, now the second one penis would be nice, is big and the milfs and teens who gonna saw him, has the point to be amused or shock in the first moment
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                     I have two renders more, but when i tried to edit the comment ,don't let me, one of them is a dick more bigger and the other is like a joke, a dick almost than big like MC. Just in case you are wondering, the second render will be then.
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                        this is a suggestion for the "prologue part", before the accident.
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                        why not make his penis normal sized. but after the accident it grow bigger.
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                        part of the mystery!
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                     Your ideas are really good, i will remember that.
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                     Finally some renders, lets see if you like the models. The sister don't have vagina because was giving me some troubles, also, daz don't take some hair styles and clothes, so i have to change the hair style to a ponytail, you can say if you liked or not. When i has a little time i will do mom and Nerela or whatever was her name.
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                        this is a suggestion for the "prologue part", before the accident.
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                        why not make his penis normal sized. but after the accident it grow bigger.
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                        part of the mystery!
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                     Thats would be awesome but the other two boys is too may huge, better with this idea of the prologue the two you send before will be good and the hair excellent. Other idea is that in nergal's version, you to make mom your lover you need a drug of something like that. I think that better would be that feel in love "naturally" because is a lonely woman (no husband) this would be diferent to other games.
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                        Finally some renders, lets see if you like the models. The sister don't have vagina because was giving me some troubles, also, daz don't take some hair styles and clothes, so i have to change the hair style to a ponytail, you can say if you liked or not. When i has a little time i will do mom and Nerela or whatever was her name.
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                     That's are awesome, nice work, I love Mrs Jennings (I think) the last one so much. Very acurate with the sister busty but not too much, and Ms Amos is great as equal, again great work.
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                        Really? The boob sizes are good? The gravity? All small details count. I was thinkin maybe Mrs Jennings have boobs too much huges. For you is okay?
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                     Well more criticism then, the sister is good like that is young and busty excelent.
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                     Ms Amos (the second one) Boobs very big, maybe a little less bigger, but with the close they compressed an they see very huge (if you use the traditional yellow dress) and Mrs JJennings for me is great, yes gravity no its a big deal, but if you prefer a littl more small its okay.
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                     this is a game, so for me the gravity is good. but if we are serious about it, its not realistic. but in a game i think its great.
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                     for the size, i would like a tiny bit smaller for the sister. for the other 2 ladies, i agree with valer.
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                     so far the rendering are great. keep it up!
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                        Changed a little her boobs and the hair, I don't convenced at 100% about the dress, but i let you decide that. Now i will re-render the sister and give her a little less boobs.
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                        This is like dream come fucking true. Great fucking job. But please dont make the girls with monstrous boobs, they will be bigger than mc, especially two last renders of ms jennings?
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                     I understand what you say, look the lasts pictures I upload, i change a lot her body in comparison from the first. If you say an idea or a suggestion just tell me, and i will try to do it.
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                        Are you making any blog-site or other site for this game - or it will be only discussed in here ?
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                     Make a blog is something i thinked and we will do it but the game still don't have a name, if you want, you can give us names and we take the better, meanwhile only will be here.
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                        Would play, there's too few /ss/ games, especially now that Nergal is gone.
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                     Noted, all the suggestions are welcome, if you want to see something can say it too, maybe will be in the game if fits there.
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                        do not spend time with a blog, this forum have enough members for feedback, help and praise rewards.
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                     Really liked Urban Evolved, actually all are good, I'm rendering all the day, my problem is, Im really stupid, i rendered a woman and when she is finished i tried to put them clothes, see the collisions with the body and take me hours, when in that time maybe i could do many more girls.
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                     how is the approach for the game?
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                     will it be like DmD, with limited choices with full scene rendered picture, or will you do a typical hentai game with standing pictures, separate background and event cg? the latter, require more work and more coding, but also give you more flexibility and more choices, while the former looks better, but require tons of time rendering a scene.
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                     here my idea of a start:
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                     i think a good start is to place MC in the hospital, with a slice memory loss and "something" not ordinary under the sheets.
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                     in the same time ,the nurse notice the big bulge that MC (is "not" trying to hide and unaware of), and gets a bit aroused by it. after a bit of talking and recollection, mom and sister will show up.
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                        here my idea of a start:
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                        i think a good start is to place MC in the hospital, with a slice memory loss and "something" not ordinary under the sheets.
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                        MC opens his eyes, and he sees the busty nurse, that will ask him questions, you know the usual; you know where you are, do you remember etc. now, MC have flashbacks, remembering bits of what happened and how his "daily" life where. here you can render in black&amp;white and save some time, telling a bit about him and the characters of his life.
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                        in the same time ,the nurse notice the big bulge that MC (is "not" trying to hide and unaware of), and gets a bit aroused by it. after a bit of talking and recollection, mom and sister will show up.
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                     Thats good, a days ago someone started helping me, and he takes the story part, lets see if he can put in.
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                        Not trying to rain on any parades but I would put "Urban 3D" as inspired by UxL or Urban Demons instead of the 3D version of these games.  The supernatural stuff is kind of tied to thse game and I'm pretty sure that Luckzor can take this in a different route than the 2D versions.  Even then, the story is very basic that it can be taken in a new direction if need be.
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                     It's okay, the game will take place in other place with other characters but some are from the both games. I don't really sure i understand what you mean with the "curse" thing. But i'm making this game like a hobby to improve my lack knowledge in "coding" and "modeling", but when i see i'm really preparate i will make my own game, this is more to me like entertainment.
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                        It's okay, the game will take place in other place with other characters but some are from the both games. I don't really sure i understand what you mean with the "curse" thing. But i'm making this game like a hobby to improve my lack knowledge in "coding" and "modeling", but when i see i'm really preparate i will make my own game, this is more to me like entertainment.
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                     It's kind of the way that this game specifically seems to run off before it's finished.  I recall at least 3 people picking it up and just stopping on it for whatever reason.  It's kind of become a rumor that this game, no matter the potential, won't be finished no matter the platform.  So... The "Urban Curse"
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                     Neala/Nessa in the games is motivated by revenge and her own self gratification.  She gets what she wants and ALWAYS focuses on her short term goals.  Her main long term goal is revenge against those that wronged her.  The other things she's willing to do is betray, manipulate, and take advantage of any weakness of other people so long as it gets her money or closer to her goals.
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                     So her emotions, those she shows the most, IMO, would be a smirk as she gets the upper hand, a furrowed brow for when she isn't getting her way, or narrowed eyes for when someone has basically wronged her.
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                     she have a mischievous and tough attitude, boyish look and she have freckles.
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                     i think the 3D is good, maybe fix the hairstyle a bit more.
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                        she have a mischievous and tough attitude, boyish look and she have freckles.
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                     I will make a new render, change clothes and hair, i put in nessa freckles, but are almost invisible, i will see if i can make it more visibles.
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                     You can say all the things you see or think are bad or don't look really well, that's the reason why i upload the renders.
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                     Meantime i will show you the first render for Nessa because now i see no all the people want one thing, so from now i will upload the render before finish and all can opinated and see what change or what more put in.
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                     Almost forgot, new mom model. I have two styles of clothes, lets see what we can do with her. The hair color is a little weird because i have to put the color manually, in other moment i will changed.
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                        For Nessa/Neela, that last crop doesn't look good for her IMO.  The mohawk makes her too butch.
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                        The ponytail is good, but with the bow, it's like she's an innocent little flower.  Unless she's going to manipulate someone by making them think she really is (try buttoning up the shirt) the ones on page 4 are better.  The freckles are okay, but I'd probably see about moving them over her face instead of bunched up in the middle.
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                     About the ponytail i take off the bow and now have more freckles in almos all her face, and the mohawk i really don't understand what you tried to say, sorry, english is not my first lenguage, i get lost in some parts.
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                     You know how you have lesbian couples?  What I called Neela was butch.  Meaning she's the "male" in a female only relationship.  If you call someone a "fem" they're the female of the relationship who wear the girly stuffs.
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                     There's a bunch of ways to do the mohawk but how it's rendered, it doesn't look good.  It's as if she has a receding hairline and detracts from her.  But if you want to see the mohawk, here's what I looked
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                     which is the hair on it.  I don't know what would be good for her at just this stage, but that's two for the hawk whenever you decide on a story for her.
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                     she just have a short cut. thats it. so i give my "vote" on the second picture (that is removed)
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                        about that haircut, I liked the "second", but it seems that your post is removed?
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                        i don't like the ponytail, its not Nessa. and the mohawk style is too much.
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                        she just have a short cut. thats it. so i give my "vote" on the second picture (that is removed)
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                     Yes, i removed because the hair was in bad possition, i was rendering that again, but i see you liked more the others hair styles so i stoped and do others. Actually i will not understand you so much, hahah, i think all of you want characters with the original personality and who looks like the 2d versions. What will be? original characters o modified?
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                        I would love to see pokies on the characters
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                        dont know if thats possible tbh
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                     I will not lie you, i don't know if thats possible, i will look but i think i don't see it something like that.
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                     That's impossible.  Nergal has disappeared and Wootch is a piece of crap no one wants to work with.
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                        That's impossible.  Nergal has disappeared and Wootch is a piece of crap no one wants to work with.
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                     There is always a way, it was discussed when another Dev said they lost their code, you can extract from game. Even using dialog as a skeleton to work from can get the first version up faster and bigger than most. It is the notion of where the story lines were going to end, a natural arcing, that is the difficult part.
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                        Yeah, I'm just a guy that'll say "okay, I'll fap to this" and give you guidance on the story, but besides that, I'm just here to help.  I don't have the capability to really do much besides show you why I like things a certain way.  You're the director of this project, so take the feedback as ways to look into different aspects.  As I said, you can have an "innocent" Neesa before you have the Neesa as a character change, but how the story goes in this format is up to you.
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                     I know, and i'm really grateful for you kidness, support and advices, the thing was, much ideas and really differents in some point. Like lost the track. But is okay, the suggestions can go on, i will see it and if fits with the game there will be.
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                        Well, if nothing else you have the maps to build from and if you get consent from the prior dev's maybe they can send the code you can work from. It could save time getting up to speed and give more energy to the rendering process and animations.
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                     Nergal dessappear really quick, how knows what happened to him/her, i don't know if s/he would give me the code, was much work and maybe he don't want make the things easy for other.
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                        There is always a way, it was discussed when another Dev said they lost their code, you can extract from game. Even using dialog as a skeleton to work from can get the first version up faster and bigger than most. It is the notion of where the story lines were going to end, a natural arcing, that is the difficult part.
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                        Nergal dessappear really quick, how knows what happened to him/her, i don't know if s/he would give me the code, was much work and maybe he don't want make the things easy for other.
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                        Mantis, what I'm saying is exactly what Luckzor is saying.  This doesn't mean you can't extract the code (which is already out in .8 beta fashion) just that you can't go to the devs for it when one is gone and the other no one wants to work with.
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                     I like it! To keep in tone with Nergals version, the clothes should be as slutty as possible. And If I could make a request give a few of the girls whaletails
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                        looks good Luckzor!
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                        i really like how MC is standing, showing that he have some kind of powers.
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                        if is possible (just for the fun of it) can you make the MC have a showing bulge. if we want him to have a "big cock", that need to show!
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                        I like it! To keep in tone with Nergals version, the clothes should be as slutty as possible. And If I could make a request give a few of the girls whaletails
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                     I tried to make it, i have a pentagram i made in photoshop but i don't know, to me was almost like copy and past and still my pentagram was really awful, you have some other idea to make it more darker?
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                        why do you need a pentagram?
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                        yeah, a whale tail thong can be fun, maybe sister can wear one!
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                        in my opinion you should not follow Nergals version too much, i think you should do a fresh take of the story, different but with some parts from the original story. i think you should do what you like as well, this to motivate yourself to work with the game, if you want to follow Nergals, go for it, but if you want to do something a bit different, go for that!
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                     I think I confused him :FeelsBadMan:, but yea I was thinking the sis would look perfect with one. But one thing I liked about nergals version is the over exaggerated girls in the game and I hope you keep that for daz3d.
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                        I think I confused him :FeelsBadMan:, but yea I was thinking the sis would look perfect with one. But one thing I liked about nergals version is the over exaggerated girls in the game and I hope you keep that for daz3d.
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                     Sorry, my bad, i readed again and now i understand better with the pictures.... I don't see reasons to not put a whale tail thong in the game, is great.
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                        Evil is pointed down, it really looks cheery with that light effect.
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                     I know, that's the reasons why i don't use that.
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                        in my opinion you should not follow Nergals version too much, i think you should do a fresh take of the story, different but with some parts from the original story. i think you should do what you like as well, this to motivate yourself to work with the game, if you want to follow Nergals, go for it, but if you want to do something a bit different, go for that!
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                        as the title says, Urban Evolved.
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                     For what i talk with the writer, the girls don't have a slutty personallity at the beggining, that will raise with the time.
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                        For what i talk with the writer, the girls don't have a slutty personallity at the beggining, that will raise with the time.
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                     I guess the biggest question (which should be secret) is, do you have a final set of ends envisioned. We know the beginning and some possible paths (ultimately "One penis to boink them all!") but never saw either versions final goal. It is also possible to add and eliminate characters. Sometimes you just can't break the armor, meaning the power has varied affect on people based on their own issues.
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