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                     Guys, I've been creating a game for the past months, I have all the scripts done, the engine is ready and the assets are all acquired (as far as I can tell), but I would like to get some feedback on some things before I start to render all the scenes, here are some infos:
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                     Engine: Unity
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                     CG: 3D models rendered on 3DSMax
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                     Genre: 2D RPG(ish)
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                     Fetishs planned: Corruption, naive, F/F, F/M, M/F/M, voyeur.
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                     Length: Some hours
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                     So here comes the "whys", if you're not interested go down to the last paragraph.
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                     Why Unity for 2D: So I can export to any platform, and I already have knowledge of the engine (have made games before), because it's far more optimized than rpgmaker, and because it's free.
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                     Why 3D models: Because I can't draw, and don't want to rely on other people to do my job, as I'm a 3D amateur artist, I can compose, set materials, model and render my own scenes on my own, I use some models from daz to speed things up, but everything is done in 3rd party software.
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                     The game: The player will follow the story of Marcy, a young woman that has to work in her mother's place for a week at a hotel, as the week goes by the player will face options and can end the game as a slut or a saint and anything in between, and as this is a porn game expect porn on it.
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                     1st: Render with Daz3D, it would take me minimal work to set up (~30 min) but the render scene I used for testing took up almost 10 hours to render.
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                     2nd: Render with 3DSMax, it takes me some time to set things up (fix the materials mainly, 1 or 2 hours), but the same render scene took me 50 min to end.
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                     So for the question, should I stick with 3DS (as I intend to do right now), or change to DAZ? The render I have in this post was made using 3DSMax, if the quality is not enough I might go back to DAZ, and DAZ quality is the same you see in every 3D game around.
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                     well, the image is good but it all depends on you, if you use 3DSMax, you work more on the setup, but you will probably render more things in less time (and time is money) but if you are more at ease whith DAZ you should probably go back to it. As I've already told you, the image quality is  good, so if u want an opinion just on the quality, I say stick with 3DSMax.
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                     I know my ways around but I'm still fresh in this department, I don't think I have enough knowledge to make my own models, or rig and pose them to be something good, right now the only factor keeping me with 3DS is the render time, because daz is much easier to work with, but I'll take a look at the other options you mentioned, right now I'm stuck with Vray.
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                        EDIT: After playing the alpha, I also believe that the lighting of your renders could use some improvements. As such, I really think you should consider doing your renders using Keyshot. It's one of the easiest to learn rendering engines out there, pretty fast, and can output stuff like this (This is a 3Daz model, btw)
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                        A few things I'd like to ask:
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                        1st: Always run
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                        That's pretty much it
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                     On my dev build I have shift for run, it doubles the speed
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                     I followed your suggestion and here are the products of a day fiddling with Keyshot.
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                        Why on earth are you making a VN/2D RPG hybrid in Unity? RPGmaker (VX Ace) being "bad" is just a meme fed by Patreon devs being lazy and/or bad at programming. If anything, Unity is a piece of shit for what you're doing. Every render is packed uncompressed. So for a standard 1080p render, you're looking at 2 MB of disk space. Then consider your actual game: you'll have to assemble a spriteset, character sprites, spend days or weeks defining basic classes that are default in RPGmaker, ...
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                     I have considered these facts before, but one reason is the main fuel for my decision: I already know how to work in unity, and already have done all my classes and scripts to work with a 2D game before starting this project, and as I know nothing of rpg maker (and it's paid btw), I choose Unity.
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                     And about the renders being packed, you can actually set the compression you want on any of the sprites, I usually let the native resolution, but I can pack it to gain space or some FPS. Last but not least Unity is one of the few "main" engines that supports 2D games natively, so I can't really see how could it be bad, less optimal maybe but far from bad.
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                        I have considered these facts before, but one reason is the main fuel for my decision: I already know how to work in unity, and already have done all my classes and scripts to work with a 2D game before starting this project, and as I know nothing of rpg maker (and it's paid btw), I choose Unity.
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                        And about the renders being packed, you can actually set the compression you want on any of the sprites, I usually let the native resolution, but I can pack it to gain space or some FPS. Last but not least Unity is one of the few "main" engines that supports 2D games natively, so I can't really see how could it be bad, less optimal maybe but far from bad.
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                     Well, my only reference for a VN is Something Unlimited, which blows my mind every time on how poor his programming skills are. But when you have the 2D framework already done, then it's a different story.
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                        Well, my only reference for a VN is Something Unlimited, which blows my mind every time on how poor his programming skills are. But when you have the 2D framework already done, then it's a different story.
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                     I can assure you that my programming skills are enough for a game this size, my major problem is with the art, as a lot of things are done by hand and I'm far from skilled on this aspect.
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                        RPGmaker VX Ace is pretty cheap though. The only real limitations are the hardcoded resolution (640x480), no multicore support and no customization of the eventing dialogs (which makes using custom methods a pain).
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                     I've seen powerful pcs struggle to run rpg maker because of these problems, and with that low of a resolution it's a no-no, but there are other engines prepared to handle 2D games aside unity, one example is
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                     Agreed, his models and renders are indeed very well done, but I think this level of art is still far from my reach, I'm just starting.
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                     But let me thank you for this kind of criticism, I really like when people ponder their points in an educated manner and with rational thinking behind their words, these talks help me improve as a person/dev, if you see anything else please speak your mind.
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                        hey archast, take a look at this guy's 3d model renders, take his work as inspiration
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                        I don't plan on right now, might make an alternative ending, but the game will only have 5 days, there isn't enough time for it.
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                     I have experience with both 3dsmax and daz, so I can tell you this for sure. The way you plan to do the whole thing with 3dsmax is a mess, because you plan to render the scenes with 3dsmax, and then import to unity to make a 2d game right? sorry if It wasn't like that. 3dsmax isn't designed to make the things easy, you can download a lot of scripts to make the character developing phase easy with daz3d, as an example there are various sliders for adjusting the body parts within daz3d, you can literally change anything you want so easily with daz just by moving a slider, but it will be difficult with 3dsmax, let alone get a natural looking result, especially if you are not a 3d artist. If you plan to design the characters in daz, and then important them to 3dsmax for rendering, then it will just add up another step. In between you have to deal with a lot of issues like sometimes textures ain't imported properly, poses go wrong, and if you want to change the pose to render another scene, you have to go back to the daz, and reimport the figure to the 3dsmax to render, as it's difficult to adjust figures with 3dsmax. so I strongly suggest to use a third party rendering tool like luxrender or nvidia cuda (if you owned a nvidia card), instead of the 3delight engine which doesn't render things with high quality, and then render the scenes within the daz3d. It's not worth to use the unity for developing a visual novel either, use a renpy like 2d engine which is designed especially for visual novels. working with Unity for making a visual novel is a waste of time, and effort unless it's a 3d game. Beside you can make the whole game available for any platform with less effort with renpy than unity.
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                        Get rid of the drab hair colour and the curl at her eyes. Then add some make-up to add some contrast to the face, because this doesn't look very appealing.
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                     I knew I forgot something, and it was the hair material... Done it and did a make-up job on her, see if it's better. And btw, she's supposed to be not so attractive anymore, it's part of the story
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                        I have considered these facts before, but one reason is the main fuel for my decision: I already know how to work in unity, and already have done all my classes and scripts to work with a 2D game before starting this project, and as I know nothing of rpg maker (and it's paid btw), I choose Unity.
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                     lol you are in a pirated forum, so let's not talk about the price
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                        I have experience with both 3dsmax and daz, so I can tell you this for sure. The way you plan to do the whole thing with 3dsmax is a mess, because you plan to render the scenes with 3dsmax, and then import to unity to make a 2d game right? sorry if It wasn't like that. 3dsmax isn't designed to make the things easy, you can download a lot of scripts to make the character developing phase easy with daz3d, as an example there are various sliders for adjusting the body parts within daz3d, you can literally change anything you want so easily with daz just by moving a slider, but it will be difficult with 3dsmax, let alone get a natural looking result, especially if you are not a 3d artist. If you plan to design the characters in daz, and then important them to 3dsmax for rendering, then it will just add up another step. In between you have to deal with a lot of issues like sometimes textures ain't imported properly, poses go wrong, and if you want to change the pose to render another scene, you have to go back to the daz, and reimport the figure to the 3dsmax to render, as it's difficult to adjust figures with 3dsmax. so I strongly suggest to use a third party rendering tool like luxrender or nvidia cuda (if you owned a nvidia card), instead of the 3delight engine which doesn't render things with high quality, and then render the scenes within the daz3d. It's not worth to use the unity for developing a visual novel either, use a renpy like 2d engine which is designed especially for visual novels. working with Unity for making a visual novel is a waste of time, and effort unless it's a 3d game. Beside you can make the whole game available for any platform with less effort with renpy than unity.
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                     You got it somewhat wrong, I'm rendering in 3ds max, and that's it, I can work with the material and have been studying a lot to improve on this side (my weakest point I agree), Unity is there just because I already have everything done for it, every script and class is already available for me, and I intend to do a simple RPG, creating the foundation to the next projects I might pursue.
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                     And just in time measures, daz took 20 hours to render a complex scene in Iray (and I have a GTX970), and the same scene with the same complexity took me 40 minutes to render in 3ds, that is why I'm pursuing this path
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                        You got it somewhat wrong, I'm rendering in 3ds max, and that's it, I can work with the material and have been studying a lot to improve on this side (my weakest point I agree), Unity is there just because I already have everything done for it, every script and class is already available for me, and I intend to do a simple RPG, creating the foundation to the next projects I might pursue.
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                        And just in time measures, daz took 20 hours to render a complex scene in Iray (and I have a GTX970), and the same scene with the same complexity took me 40 minutes to render in 3ds, that is why I'm pursuing this path
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                     What about posing? modeling the characters? it's more convenient to do with daz3d than 3dsmax. and what about importing characters back to 3dsmax to render? have you ever tried the sliders for figures in daz3d? did you notice it's more convenient to model a character than in 3dsmax? yeah it's true iray can be a bit more demanding, but you can still adjust its settings to make it less time consuming with higher quality result.
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                        What about posing? modeling the characters? it's more convenient to do with daz3d than 3dsmax. and what about importing characters back to 3dsmax to render? have you ever tried the sliders for figures in daz3d? did you notice it's more convenient to model a character than in 3dsmax? yeah it's true iray can be a bit more demanding, but you can still adjust its settings to make it less time consuming with higher quality result.
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                     But I'm already doing that in daz, I pose and use the Daz sliders, even the hairs and props are from daz, I just export everything and render after that. That way I can get the best of both worlds, the malleability from daz and the powerful renderer from 3ds
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                        Hey guys, I'll have another build done in a while, having images for the scene with the boss (previously there already) and a new scene with images for the new NPC (last room 2nd floor), and shift key for running.
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                        Hey guys, I'll have another build done in a while, having images for the scene with the boss (previously there already) and a new scene with images for the new NPC (last room 2nd floor), and shift key for running.
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                     Ok people, the build is ready, I hunted for bugs before and after building the ".exe" and had to redo the build as I found 2 bugs, so I think it's free of errors this time, but if you find anything else let me know.
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                     My "art style" changed during the development of this game, and right now I'm satisfied of it, but there are some renders using the old style that are not so good, I intend to redo them but if I keep going back to things I've done I'll never finish anything...
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                     About the blank portraits, I'm thinking of getting rid of them and always use renders, even as "portraits" (take example on the new NPC scene), what you guys think?
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                     - Boss bathroom scene now has renders (that changes according to your outfit).
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                     - You can run with SHIFT!
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                     - New UI.
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                     - Now you can't access the other floors during the first night.
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                     - Add flavor texts with the npcs.
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                     - 2 more NPCs (1st and 2nd room).
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                     Known "bugs":
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                     - Margareth portrait positioning, I'll work on it soon enough.
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                     Ps: Mac and linux players, if there's one of you around here let me know and I'll make a build for you, just give me a shout.
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                        i like her
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                     Thanks, I'm trying to keep her "real"
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                     I'll use the 2nd version, and the duster will stay there until further into the game, don't worry
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                     this is looking very very promising, loving the character build too she is indeed perfect. Tits the right size looks the right age she got that semi athletic build. sadly cannot make a comment or judge on the rear end, would love to see it. ( more of an ass then tits person )
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                        this is looking very very promising, loving the character build too she is indeed perfect. Tits the right size looks the right age she got that semi athletic build. sadly cannot make a comment or judge on the rear end, would love to see it. ( more of an ass then tits person )
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                     It's something that I'll keep in mind for the next version, and you'll like to know I'm doing a scene that could have some of it
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                     I tried to not overdo, I'm a bit tired of watermelon tits and gigantic penises, they are nice in a fantasy setting, but on a "realistic" one they should not appear.
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                     It's difficult for me to make a release date, I still have some portraits to render, and one scene to write and render, not even saying about the save system... But I'm working on it on my free time and if I could guess it would take 1 or 2 months, but don't take it for granted.
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                        Don't know how much flexibility you have in 3ds regarding posing this, maybe repose it in daz3d and export again - but she looks rather unnatural like that. Her boob is literally supporting her entire upper body weight. You can get tools to "squish" the boob down. Hell, it would look better if the boob was poking through the mattress.
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                     I'm back with daz, 3DS doesn't like daz hairs and I don't have the time I once had to learn, daz is slower but "works". And the pose is not final yet, I agree that it's not natural and I'll work on it before the final render, but thanks for the heads up anyway
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                     . And for the blue light, I might do that, I think it will not put the render too dark and set the mood right.
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                        She walks well. I'd just dial down the jiggliness of the breasts a little bit.
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                     That animation is made for a naked or bra-less woman, I'll need to fine tune it a lot, but I'm afraid of it delaying the development time...
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                        Regarding your lighting - stick to a few very basic rules that are generally excepted in art and light. If you want night lightning use a touch of blue in your light source and even easier in DAZ: use the environment settings in the render settings to your full advantage. You can use a HDRI environment map light ( i know for sure there are several free night ones out there) and just use that source as your lighting (no headlamps or scene lights whatsoever).
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                     That scene is using HDRI maps with some fill lights to light up the darker areas, and about the license I hadn't know about it... Might check before putting inside the game, and the animation is from the daz store, but I don't know the real origin behind it.
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                        Nope... she's still got pants on... heh heh!!
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                     The pants problem will go in a few nights
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                     , and brightness was darker, but I wanted the player to still "see" everything, but I wanted to pass the night vibe
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                     Just eye candy, but imho I think it aggregates value to the game.
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                     I could, but it's actually easier to animate and use a gif or movie, with unity I don't have the constraints I have with rpg maker for example.
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                     That is my main fear, my game only has 5 days to be short enough for me to finish, as a way to experiment and test myself, I don't wanna over promise and under deliver, but I think a walking animation wouldn't take much of my time, but if I had to animate every single scene it would become hard for me to keep up.
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                     Couldn't agree more, that is my main concern, right now the animation is just a test as it's not implemented nor it's on my plans, I'm just munching at the idea, but I get what you mean, if this will make my game explode on scope I'll keep it out.
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                        I was playing a bit of 'devils advocate' here - i am fully aware how much easier it is to do animated stuff in Unity. Buuuut - main rule of game design: be consistent. Don't mix still and animated unless you are willing to take the punches for it. My best advice would be to create the first full version only based on stills as you have already limited your length to a decent amount. When all is done and finished create a 'Platinum' version with animations.
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                     I think I'll use your advice, the animation was just a gimmick, and I guess I prefer to be consistent and release the full game with images only because it will be faster to reach and give me the experience I need. But about the physics, inside unity I have more freedom, but to use the daz model I would have to work much more than right now, my game is 2D in its essence, the 3D parts are just images that I render, so I don't have to import the models to Unity, just use the pictures.
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                        New margareth, I know I said I wouldn't redo renders, but as the old one was not very appealing to me I redid it trying to hit the sweet MILF spot, speak your mind guys
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                        Hi, I really like the demo, it has a lot of potential. My main problem (apart from lack of content) is the lack of options/controls/save and that as far as I can tell there is no button for skipping text, so when I accidentally press too fast I skip a choice (generally RPGMaker has a different button for skipping text). You should try to change the controls so the game can only be played with one hand, for obvious reasons.
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                     That's actually a pretty valid concern that I haven't given much thought, I'm planning to put control mapping to work, so you can choose whatever you like better, but right now you can already use WASD to walk around and space to interact, so it's already one hand friendly, but the options are coming on the next version, I'm working on the save system right now and I'm creating the menus alongside it.
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                        Probably the best way is to release a whole day. Then, you can save some time to address some bug extermination, based on the feedbacks of the players. =)
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                     I actually have not considered that, thanks
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                        It's best if you release a full day then maybe you can release chunks after that. It's up to you though. Whichever works best for you.
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                        I had some time this weekend to work on the game, so I'm finally done with all the writing, and setting all the flags and variables that need to be in place for the next update. Right now what's left is to sort the save system (I'm stuck with this one) and to finish the art for 1 scene, I'm started but it's not done yet. And as promised here's something: The revamped portrait
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                        May I ask, what your computer specs are?
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                        I can NOT believe you render 1 scene for 10 hours.
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                     This is not true anymore, it was a lot of misinformation, and not knowing Daz enough, after I optimized everything I can render scenes in a "timely" manner
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