[word=Pope | □]
[word=Pope | □ | □]
[word=Pope | !□]
Christopher Lydon comments on Carter 's energy policy . Baumeister reports that DiScisio helps run the East Boston Information Center ; that the East Boston Information Center is connected to ROAR ( Restore Our Alienated Rights ) , the city-wide anti-busing organization . Lydon quotes Robert Spillane ( Superintendent , Boston Public Schools ) as saying that Robert Dentler ( Dean of Education at Boston University and advisor to the federal court ) is a " social engineer . Pilkington says that African American leaders disagree with Schwartz ; that Paul Parks ( State Secretary for Educational Affairs ) does not believe that whites will leave the school system in large numbers ; that Ellen Jackson ( Freedom House ) believes that the speculation concerning " white flight " encourages the idea where it may not have existed ; that Percy Wilson ( Roxbury Multi-Service Center ) calls the speculation concerning " white flight " a scare tactic to escalate racial anxieties . V : Footage of Rose DiScisio ( East Boston resident ) saying that many in East Boston will not allow their children to be bused ; that there will be trouble in East Boston next year if students are bused out . Footage of Robert Mahoney ( Bank of Boston ) addressing the audience at the Roxbury branch of the bank . Pilkington reports that Bob Schwartz ( Educational Advisor to the Mayor ) is worried that whites will pull their children out of school if there appears to be a non-white majority ; that the absence of middle-class white children will cause a decline in the quality of education . Shot of Robert Guillemin ( artist ) , also known as " Sidewalk Sam " leading the students in a cheer . Nevas introduces Christopher Lydon 's interview with Richard Reeves ( political writer ) . Bullard reports that Sullivan is openly critical of the appointments of Associate Superintendents John Kelly , Robert McCabe and Charles Leftwich , and the appointments of District Superintendents Frank Laquidara and George Murphy . Nelson introduces commentary by Christopher Lydon on the first few months of the Carter presidency . Christopher Lydon reports on the opening of Boston Public Schools . V : Meg Vaillancourt sets up an interview on the quadrangle with Professor Robert Elias ( professor , Tufts University ) . Baumeister reports that Bob Schwartz ( Educational Advisor to the Mayor ) fears that a minority white school system in Boston will lead to a decline in the quality of education ; that Kevin White ( Mayor , City of Boston ) favors a metropolitan desegregation plan .