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Colonel Foster , I would like to ask your opinion if that quotation is correct ? It was affirmed forty years ago , and it is affirmed Dow by Mr. Spencer and his followers , that misery in civilized society is due to our insufficient production , or rather to the circumstance that " population presses upon the means of subsistence . One reason why this message took a long time to register is that it is much easier to say that organization matters than it is to show how and why . The propositions that organization matters and that it is susceptible to analysis were long greeted by skepticism by economists . When the trial was in progress the only man who could have answered the question as to whether we had made money out of our organization was Zeller , the Secretary of the Central Labor Union , and when he was asked the question whether we ever received any money for speaking and organizing unions in that organization , the gentlemen who had been instrumental in attaching that to the indictment in , order to prejudice the people against us before the trial should come on against us-for there is nothing in the world that can prejudice a man so much as to be charged with having imposed on some one for mercenary motives , and this is creditable to society - when the trial came on and this man who could have testified to thatwho could have substantiated it if it had been true-was asked the question , each one of the gentlemen who were interested in its being proven true for their side of the case at once sprang to their feet and objected to the question being asked . I was actually surprised baseball would make a similar deal because of all the negative press I 'd heard about the Sunday Ticket deal .