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We can certainly continue to have political discussions in the Legislature or elsewhere , but on this issue of pensions I think the other thing that is important for all committee members to understand is we are not talking about a further adjustment or enhancement to the pension plan . Because I suggest , Sir , that you will find that they will comply as they should comply with the wishes of their members for that financial information and , if they do not comply , that there are stiff enough penalties there that will be a financial incentive for them to comply with the wishes of your act and that there is no need to remove the Rand Formula . The member for St. Johns ( Mr. Mackintosh ) refers to the adjustments to MLAs , and I think he knows , if he does not , I will remind him , that there was all-party agreement of the Liberals , the NDP and the Conservatives on a process , agreement that they would be adopted by the Legislature subsequent to the election , and that is exactly what happened , based on an all-party agreement of all parties . Thus trying to make it a Jewish-Christian statement would have resulted either in a glaring asymmetry between the prominence of the Christian and Jewish leaders or in a statement that did not say what we thought needed saying . With that , Mr. Committee members will recall that this committee sat on June 4 , 1996 , to first consider the issue , and at that meeting the committee agreed to defer consideration until a further meeting of the committee . Whether you can go , from a financial point of view , is often more of a question of living expenses rather than tuition . Earlier this year the State Department issued a report on the massive persecution of Christians , shattering its near silence on the question .