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It went around and around and around in circles . Presupposing a more thorough study of tradition that cannot be repeated here , I shall briefly summarize ten of these characteristics . Biostatisticians grimly point out that the cumulative result of all these individual risks is the continued high prevalence of HIV in gay communities . In addition , there are a few substantive issues , and I will briefly outline how these issues have been resolved . Ultimately , anything Grisez advocates has to be appropriated by the consciences of those who choose to listen to him . Mr. Stefanson : As we all know , we adjourned roughly a week or two ago after hearing representation from the judges , from Mr. Kopstein and Mr. Sinclair . If the government was not willing to do the appropriate thing of going around and informing Manitobans in a full and fair way , then the government might at least have had the courtesy to schedule public hearings on this bill , formal public hearings , in places other than Winnipeg .