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Not all of the employees who would be in the bargaining unit would be working onsite for the employer . So if you want to get into a long wrangling about the decision in the Levine case , I am prepared to do that , but I can tell you that you are contravening the decision and the intent of the decision of the Supreme Court of Canada by your interference in the internal affairs of the union , and also in the activities that you are taking here to punish the unions by the removal of the Rand Formula for what should be an unfair labour practice and for which severe financial penalties are available under the current Labour Relations Act for the province of Manitoba . Since not all members of a workplace are members of the union , it only seems reasonable to suggest that the union have access to the names and addresses of those people to ascertain , since those people also pay dues , what their will is with respect to the use of those dues . I guess , I would have to say at the beginning , every time this committee meets , there is either a storm or a pending storm . We are saying that was just a sham , that was just set up to make people think that we understand the independence of the judiciary . I recall back in the spring of 1994 when the government went ahead with very generous , I would suggest , early retirement packages for up to one-quarter of the members of the Provincial Court without going through this Compensation Committee process , and we slammed the government at that time for its failure to understand the importance of the independence of the judiciary . I do not know whether I passively consent when I do not know that something has happened to which I ordinarily would be entitled to information but fail to receive that information , for example , in regard to a trust involving a minor or a trust involving a mentally incompetent person , or any other shareholding arrangement or corporate arrangement where a corporation is in some associate status . I would certainly think that all Manitobans would be disgraced if the Justice minister , for one , and others who do understand the importance of the judiciary in this province , did not stand up to this minister and to what the government is now proposing , because the principle is far more important than the nominal figures that have been recommended and then rejected by this government . We do not have to do that . So help me understand the confusion that is in my head if nowhere else . I have been unable to find any organization that does not take a strike vote on the employer 's last offer or a vote on the issues affecting the last offer and at the same time determine whether or not strike action would be appropriate . I think it is clear that no modern farm person , no modern operator of an agribusiness , whether it is a family farm or a larger entity , can do that without access to modern telecommunications , access to markets around the world , to the Internet , to pricing information , to supplier information . Mr. Reid : In this provision in this amendment that I am proposing here , Mr. Chairperson , it changes in the fact that the employer in this case or the government in most of these cases will determine the names of the employees that would be required to work to maintain essential services , and we heard one of the presentations here this evening spelling out very clearly for the government and for the committee members that there should be a removal of the names component , that there was no opposition to determining that there are job classifications that need to be filled , but I think the objection was that the specific names of individuals to do that work , that power was being left in the hands of the government to determine specific people . The Union of Manitoba Municipalities is comprised of those who do not understand the situation and have no access to competent advice . Should the homily be an authoritative word or a sharing of personal faith experiences ? It is my understanding that the vast majority , if not all the issues , have been resolved or are in the process of final resolution .