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So what we are requesting here is that that information be made available to the employee through the union , and that if there are any problems that may be encountered with respect to some of the information , that employee can request that information be received from the board . At that point , you need to look more closely at various kinds of literature and , if possible , at the campuses themselves . Even if the government did not want to have the board of directors move a motion requesting privatization , because of these new circumstances that so rationally and logically required a change in the management structure , ownership , even if the government did not want the advice of the board of directors , they could have at least have gone to them and said let us get some information , some credible , logical , system-wide information based on privatizations elsewhere , based on this new technological environment . While that may seem a light point , and in some ways it is a point of somewhat humorous reflection , it is nevertheless also a very serious point , because for these 80 years a minister of the Crown has always had a special responsibility to all Manitobans to ensure that their telephone system is efficient , effective , available , accessible , technologically advanced , soundly administered . Most of them have some form of handicap , whether it is mental or physical . Is there such information , and if it sustains the case that government is making , why is it not public ? It was part of the beliefs of the Branch Davidians , expressed and taught by their leader , that they must bring about a violent conflict with federal agents , thereby forcing the agents to use deadly force against them , and by dying in the ensuing battle to be " translated " immediately to Heaven . Koresh did not preach that his followers must " bring about " a violent conflict with federal agents , but that the government would proceed against them and they must be prepared to defend themselves . It is the union saying , we will disclose that information and thereby get the benefit of Rand , or we choose not to give that information , and then go back to its membership and get the dues on a voluntary basis . I think it is clear that no modern farm person , no modern operator of an agribusiness , whether it is a family farm or a larger entity , can do that without access to modern telecommunications , access to markets around the world , to the Internet , to pricing information , to supplier information .