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Should the celebrant face the people during the Eucharistic prayer , or should both priests and people be turned eastward toward the coming Lord ? I do not think any of us enjoy serving in such a situation , but on the other hand , the saying which was quoted to us at least once during the public hearings , that for evil to triumph all that is required is for good people to do nothing , is also true . And what you are responding here today is that you may be contemplating further changes to The Labour Relations Act during the term of this government . So if you want to get into a long wrangling about the decision in the Levine case , I am prepared to do that , but I can tell you that you are contravening the decision and the intent of the decision of the Supreme Court of Canada by your interference in the internal affairs of the union , and also in the activities that you are taking here to punish the unions by the removal of the Rand Formula for what should be an unfair labour practice and for which severe financial penalties are available under the current Labour Relations Act for the province of Manitoba . My deputy minister sat during those meetings . I think it is purely ideologically driven on your part and that it is the wrong decision for the problem that you perceive to be out there . That is why I reference the fact that perhaps that action can be taken here to combine the two to allow for the Manitoba Human Rights Code to be included under this section . If the names and addresses of the employees are not available , are not provided by the employer , as I have indicated earlier , where some members of that particular bargaining unit may be employed in their own homes , for example , or outside of the particular isolated work area where they can be easily identified , then it seems reasonable to request this amendment that would allow for that list of names to be provided to the union by the employer to allow for the most accurate communication possible to determine the wishes and the will of those employees . On the contrary , attention to the laws of worship may require a certain formality in style and language somewhat removed from ordinary speech . They own the property , but a woman claiming to be the wife of George Roden has built a shack outside the entrance and lives there , trying to collect donations " for the Branch Davidians " from the dozens of tourists who come by every week ( which the Branch Davidians never receive ) . What I am proposing here is to permit the Labour Board to have the opportunity to be able to determine whether or not those requests are unreasonable and unwarranted and then to impose reasonable limitations on such requests , and that they would have the power to make determination whether or not an employee is attempting to be in some ways disruptive , as for example , or some other reasons that may be determined by the board and may seek out that information from the employee why they are seeking out or making so many requests . Some of them could be , in fact , working out of their own homes but still be members of a particular bargaining unit ; and , if we are going to have requirements of the labour organizations to do certain surveys of their members with respect to the use of dues for political purposes , it only seems fair and reasonable that the names and addresses of the employees affected be made available to allow for the most accurate consultation process to take place . The opinion also confirms that the market value of the new plan 's assets would exceed the plan 's liability for purposes of The Pension Benefits Standards Act , which is the federal legislation under which the new plan will be registered . were serious violations of federal criminal law , and resulted in the homicide of four young agents , the injury of numerous other agents , and the death of numerous residents of the building referred to during the trial as the " Compound . Why is this not out of scope ? There are so many complex issues from the maybe obvious issues of what will the ownership structure of the corporation look like , what will the land transfers and asset transfers require , what kinds of Orders-in-Council , what kinds of division of the holdings of various things where MTS currently shares easements and rights of way and where it shares premises and where it shares in some cases , I believe , even some equipment with other corporations . We have available severe financial penalties , and , like I said to you , if you do not think it is stiff enough , just talk to those small bargaining units and ask them if they can afford to pay that $ 2,000 fine that could be levied on them now under The Labour Relations Act for the Province of Manitoba . I support the motion for an additional reason , besides what the minister has stated and what Mr. Benson stated in his dissenting report , and that is at some point in a jurisdiction like Manitoba where you are going to increase the rate of remuneration paid to anybody , even an independent judiciary , to a degree which is perceived to be unfair and out of step with other players and essential players in a democracy , whether it be professors who claim , and rightly so , academic freedom , whether it be teachers who claim they need respect and they need a sense of worth to be able to teach properly , all of these being fundamental parts of democracy , but if you are out of step with what is perceived generally to be fair , you can bring disrepute on the very institution and the very freedom that you stand for. We have a much stronger sense than government does , I think , of the urgency of the fact that we know from our work , from our involvement with our constituents , that slowly , slowly , but very clearly , fewer and fewer poor people have access to a telephone . Mr. Toews : I am advised that the definition of " work stoppage , " which means a strike which is defined as is defined in The Labour Relations Act , essentially means that an essential services worker or employee could not participate in strike activities , but there is certainly nothing to stop that individual from exercising his or her constitutional rights outside the context of that . I think you were referring to a presenter who was worried about ownership going outside of the country into the U.S. Somewhat surprisingly , despite his protestations about lack of discretion , the judge " departed downward " from the sentencing guidelines with respect to two defendants convicted on Count Three .