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Mr. Reid : Mr. Chairperson , presenters who came before this committee last week indicated to this committee that there are times when the employers or the labour organization take certain steps to instruct people who are under their care , control and responsibility , but knowing that human personalities and human nature and people are able to make their own decisions independent of these two bodies , it seems to be reasonable to expect that there should be some counsel that could be afforded by both the employer and the labour organizations to what is and what is not proper conduct . Based on this Court 's review and analysis of all available authorities , it is determined that thirty-year sentences as to all Defendants convicted of Count Three is mandatory . The offering of the elements , the breaking of the host , and the eating and drinking are charged with Christological meaning . We told you at the time there were changes occurring , and if you want to protect employment in this province , you had better take the steps necessary to get something in exchange for the fuel tax revenue that you were giving up . " So he felt free to assert a view of the case that the jury had rejected . Here is where Grisez the philosopher steps in : " A sound alternative to legalism is to assume that people who ask moral questions are capable of moral reflection and judgment . You are attempting to circumvent and to undermine and to destroy in a very subtle way the labour organizations of this province , and we will not go to you on bended knee and say that we are thankful that you did not take further steps with respect to the labour legislation of this province , because we will not kneel to you , Sir .