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Mr. Mackintosh : The issue of whether the judges ' salaries would be so out of step as to put the administration of justice in disrepute , I think , is an imaginative argument but one that I certainly do not think would sway . In fact , the Buck Consultants ' opinion goes on to point out that certain benefits out of the new plan will exceed the present benefits under The Civil Service Superannuation Act , so that the new plan will actually confer some enhanced benefits . It came as quite a surprise to the Premier ( Mr. Filmon ) and his cabinet that there were many people there who would have liked , indeed , to ask questions and would have liked to approach the Premier at the podium and say , Mr. Premier , I do not understand this decision . Without those provisions in there , the fairness factor will not be built in and those employees will lose their employment in many cases as a result of the employer being able to act as both prosecutor and judge . By the current legislation , and I stand to be corrected if I am wrong on this , but I believe the current legislation by allowing seven days can allow this matter , depending upon when the application would be received , to allow this matter to go through two successive weekends without having that vote occur . I think , Sir , the consequences will be reaped upon you and your party in the future as a result of this decision . Let the Labour Board determine , because it is an independent quasi-judicial body , to look at the conditions and the policies ; the conditions of the strike or lockout and the picket line involved ; the activities , whether or not there were provisions as a result of those picket line activities that involved perhaps some way where members of the union that were on the picket line would be incited to take certain actions either on the part of the employer or other persons and that those factors need to be taken into consideration in fairness to those people . So government has a sacred trust , and I use that word advisedly as well . Where I find the act is very , very deficient are those areas that I have moved in to amend it to ensure that there is an appropriate degree of balance between the power of a trade union and the individual employee . Relations Act of Manitoba for unfair labour practice , that we would propose that these matters where there is and if there is a failure to file a detailed financial statement as is requested , that those particular parties would commit to an unfair labour practice and that they would be subject to the full sanctions as allowed under the law . Should preference be given to the Roman canon above the other authorized eucharistic prayers ? I think it is clear that no modern farm person , no modern operator of an agribusiness , whether it is a family farm or a larger entity , can do that without access to modern telecommunications , access to markets around the world , to the Internet , to pricing information , to supplier information . Let us get out to rural and northern and southern and urban Manitoba , let us hold those public meetings , let us mail stuff out to people , let us explain this new circumstance to which we awoke one summer morning after the Crown Corporations Council reported and said , my goodness , you are at risk , folks , you better change , or at least consider how to manage that risk . What is particularly concerning here is not only the out-of-scope question - - because I think if we do not say that it is out of scope , there is a whole process question here that has to be dealt with , not just as us , we are just the representatives of the people in this particular case - - but there are obviously different people who would make a presentation depending on the scope of the bill . Mr. Chairman , I ask you , do you want me to read each of the nine in Section 1 into the record and move them and discuss them all , or is there a desire just to do them one at a time ? I will reiterate once again , as I did in the House , that I believe that this bill is essentially designed as a punitive measure to get back at those labour organizations in our province that dared to stand up to this government and in fact raised issues during the 1995 provincial general election campaign and to raise public awareness of these issues , and that this government is now bringing forward Bill 26 as a punitive measure to in many ways tie the hands of those organizations from ever being able to take effective action , and at the same time recognizing that this government , while they have tied the hands of labour organizations in this province who dared to speak out , they have not taken similar actions to those that are familiar and friendly with this particular government , namely those in certain sectors of the business community and that it is undemocratic , the sections that the government is - - and the actions the government is proposing through this bill . If the minister is going to proceed with his plan , it is likely that we are going to again be losing ground and come out nine out of 10 again as we are with judicial salaries across Canada . Where a strike or lockout commenced and then ceased without an agreement having been achieved , the minister would not be authorized to order a vote . Why are they refusing to consider all those senior political appointments and all the other senior staff in the Department of Justice , for example , just for one department ?