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If the government was not willing to do the appropriate thing of going around and informing Manitobans in a full and fair way , then the government might at least have had the courtesy to schedule public hearings on this bill , formal public hearings , in places other than Winnipeg . You have undermined that principle in this legislation as you have done on several other pieces of legislation , several of which you tabled in this Legislature , including Bill 73 , including Bill 49 , including Bill 54 , and we can go on and on about the undemocratic way that you and your government have acted to the working people of this province . You are punishing the public sector unions , who took a strong stand to protect public sector services in the province of Manitoba . [ interjection ] Well , I know even Sid must have his weak moments , but I have the highest respect for Mr. Sid Green . Mr. Reid : In this provision in this amendment that I am proposing here , Mr. Chairperson , it changes in the fact that the employer in this case or the government in most of these cases will determine the names of the employees that would be required to work to maintain essential services , and we heard one of the presentations here this evening spelling out very clearly for the government and for the committee members that there should be a removal of the names component , that there was no opposition to determining that there are job classifications that need to be filled , but I think the objection was that the specific names of individuals to do that work , that power was being left in the hands of the government to determine specific people . Needless to say , the actual positions of most Catholics do not correspond precisely to either of these two types . Mr. Reid : I believe , Mr. Chairperson , this will allow for some fairness to prevail under the application process so that there would not be undue influence exerted by either party with respect to the certification process and to allow the employees themselves to hear both sides in the certification application , and that is why we have raised this amendment . If the case goes forward , a prolonged period of discovery will follow , which could produce some very interesting evidence , including the videotapes and still photos taken by the ATF photographers during the raid , the plans for the raid , the FBI 's plans for use of CS gas , the logs of observers during the gassing and the fire , and other information that was not admitted at the criminal trial . So if the government have their members here , all of them , and they wish to vote against the amendments , that is fine , as long as we are able to record as well in Hansard that we would have , the members of our committee that are here , shown as being in favour of the amendment . I am not clear though on whether or not it is the government 's intent to want to have this information widely distributed , and perhaps that is their intent , looking at the legislation that is before us . It does not deal with control of assets other than control of securities , and in the context of Bill 67 , the relevance would be that the securities referred to would be shares either of MTS or of an affiliate . You are only doing this legislation to punish the labour organizations , including the teachers who , for the first time , will be brought under The Labour Relations Act for the province of Manitoba and have to report the detailed financial matters to their members and at the same time not provide for them other provisions under The Labour Relations Act for the province of Manitoba . With the expiry of Bill 22 , judges are no longer subject to the reduced workweek , while civil servants , including senior executives , continue to be subject to the salary reductions . They could shift them either among themselves or to others , with permission . Thus , with the usual courage of his convictions , he bluntly states , " The real problems presented and revealed by the conducts of priests like Father Jack have hardly been acknowledged by bishops , including yours , and .