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We would have been much better off merging them in with the mainstream groups and not setting up a " here are the groups you can jettison first " mentality . So I 'm not sure after all whether you can say that Pizzicato Five = Unagi and have it over with , and the real question for both music and film may be , as I believe Aaron is suggesting , where and how the lines delimiting " indie " and " independent " are drawn in the first place . I can ’ t say ( and certainly wouldn ’ t presume to say ) Groovy is a failure or the wrong language any more than you can say Ruby is the wrong language . Consider checking out one or more of our investing newsletters - - which offer education along with recommendations of promising stocks and mutual funds ( and you can try them for free ) . Composite structures , part painted drop , part fly , part set piece , help turn the Taj Mahal into a living room quicker than you can say , " Bollywood dance tunes " ( which often accompanied scene changes , thanks to Cliff Caruthers ' sound design ) . The number in the ( ) is the number of comments so far — if it 's 0 then you can grab the top spot . Now , you can debate ( if you like ) why the Bush administration did what it did in crafting and submitting its proposed budgets . The worst you can say , logically , about that statement is that given the lack of data , she cannot know it to be true - - which is not a lie in this context , so far as I can tell .