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Mr. Loewen : One other issue with regard to the press release , because it goes on to refer to the Libman decision , and just to confirm that from the significant legal work that you and other presenters have done , but to you specifically in your view and the view of your organization given the recent decisions in B.C ., the Libman decision and the reversal of Mr. Johnston , the Libman decision has no bearing on this issue whatsoever .